Forum logs for 27 Jun 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

mircea_popescu	;;bc,stats	[00:00]
gribble	Current Blocks: 362724 \| Current Difficulty: 4.969238635489384E10 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 362879 \| Next Difficulty In: 155 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 0 hours, 38 minutes, and 8 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: None \| Estimated Percent Change: None	[00:00]
decimation	;;ticker	[00:01]
gribble	Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 243.04, Best ask: 243.13, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 243.13, 24 hour volume: 10324.91808216, 24 hour low: 240.61, 24 hour high: 243.9, 24 hour vwap: None	[00:01]
mircea_popescu	no changes eh.	[00:01]
decimation	so much for bitcoin instability	[00:01]
decimation	it's more stable than eurusd	[00:01]
mircea_popescu	heh	[00:03]
mircea_popescu	well, it's for sure more stabilizing.	[00:03]
mircea_popescu	so yea.	[00:03]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178541 << how many 'keybases' are there even.	[00:05]
assbot	Logged on 27-06-2015 01:09:10; mats: https://www.igolder.com/pgp/generate-key hue	[00:05]
asciilifeform	does every derpatron have its own	[00:05]
decimation	asciilifeform: if done in javascript it's not immediately stupid	[00:06]
decimation	other than "why?"	[00:06]
asciilifeform	immediately stupid in the same way keybase is	[00:07]
decimation	it's possible it doesn't upload the privkey immediate	[00:07]
asciilifeform	doesn't need to	[00:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00040718 = 3.7868 BTC [-]	[00:07]
asciilifeform	1) did you read the thing. ~every time you loaded it~ 2) does your browser access /dev/random ?	[00:07]
decimation	yeah I was about to ask where the entropy for the rng comes from	[00:08]
decimation	don't tell me it's from server	[00:08]
mircea_popescu	;)	[00:10]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178572 << this is ~not~ in 0.5.3. it had only '-noirc', default off.	[00:10]
assbot	Logged on 27-06-2015 02:16:03; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell ben_vulpes incidentally, were you explicitly setting -irc Find peers using internet relay chat (default: 0) flag ?	[00:10]
mircea_popescu	ah did it ?	[00:10]
asciilifeform	aha	[00:10]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/init.cpp#0168	[00:11]
assbot	Satoshi 0.5.3.1/src/init.cpp ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRt87d )	[00:11]
asciilifeform	and http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/irc.cpp#0261	[00:12]
assbot	Satoshi 0.5.3.1/src/irc.cpp ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRtdaJ )	[00:12]
mircea_popescu	aha	[00:12]
*	asciilifeform is not proud of having that thing live in his head now - it's gotta be good for something like mental equivalent of 'black lung disease' - but it can be handy	[00:13]
mircea_popescu	http://dpaste.com/14HRFX8 << quick and dirty census off a few hours of a single node running.	[00:15]
assbot	dpaste: 14HRFX8 ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRtB9o )	[00:15]
mircea_popescu	version 70002 - 50 version 70001 - 9 version 60001 - 9 version 60000 - 1 Total - 69	[00:15]
asciilifeform	https://www.igolder.com/pgp/generate-key << server side!	[00:15]
assbot	PGP Key Generator - iGolder	[00:15]
asciilifeform	did nobody ~read~ the src!	[00:15]
asciilifeform	l0ltr0n1c!	[00:16]
mircea_popescu	(server itself is declaring 60001, and im unsure what the foundation nodes will say. 50001 maybe ?)	[00:16]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/serialize_8h_source.html#l00044	[00:18]
assbot	bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patches { http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/v0531-wPatchesApplied.txt }: bitcoin/src/serialize.h Source File ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRtXN8 )	[00:18]
asciilifeform	is what it'll say.	[00:18]
asciilifeform	see, www with src is handy	[00:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16039 @ 0.00040718 = 6.5308 BTC [-]	[00:18]
decimation	asciilifeform: wait the server gens the whole key?	[00:18]
mircea_popescu	not the client version tho, the proto version.	[00:19]
asciilifeform	decimation: go, look	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform as there's two. "version" : 60200, "protocolversion" : 60001, for instance	[00:22]
decimation	asciilifeform: I don't see any crypto code in the javascript, but it's not a very familiar language. I do see an input form with a submit mechanism	[00:22]
decimation	https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2015/06/17/public-speech-is-a-bad-idea/ < heh, even 'gay in tech' sam altman loses against sjw	[00:26]
assbot	Public speech is a bad idea \| Bloody shovel ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRuIFX )	[00:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24050 @ 0.00041304 = 9.9336 BTC [+]	[00:27]
mircea_popescu	"runs for them a short part of the way and for us the whole way".	[00:27]
mircea_popescu	the entire shitfest is going to be killed by its own methods.	[00:27]
*	mircea_popescu eagerly pushing the sword in every chance he gets.	[00:28]
mircea_popescu	singing "you've made your one nail bed, now lie in it" to a happy tune.	[00:28]
mircea_popescu	nevertheless, "We shall drown, and nobody will save us" is exactly right. they shall, drown. nobody will, save them.	[00:29]
decimation	well, his reasoning is sound, people have no business on twitter	[00:30]
mircea_popescu	he does not get to avail himself of this soundness.	[00:30]
mircea_popescu	he is part of the entire shebang pushing "twitter as a business - business as a twitter"	[00:31]
mircea_popescu	what's next, "quisling has a point - people should stand up for what they believe in" ?	[00:31]
mircea_popescu	not a point sam altman may ever have. his points, such as they are, must be of an entirely different nature.	[00:32]
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decimation	ah I thought you meant spandrell	[00:32]
mircea_popescu	a	[00:32]
decimation	yeah altman is getting his just deserts	[00:33]
mircea_popescu	i dunno about spandrell ever, but who cartes. "note that altman is gay in tech and that didn't save him" ? fu nutso boi.	[00:33]
mircea_popescu	s/ever/either/	[00:33]
decimation	he's one of those on the fringe of the 'reactionaries'	[00:34]
decimation	I think he might actually live in china	[00:34]
*	mircea_popescu has no idea, so wont' comment.	[00:35]
decimation	he has some interesting posts relating chinese history: https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2015/06/06/giving-the-handle/	[00:36]
assbot	Giving the handle \| Bloody shovel ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRvDpW )	[00:36]
decimation	"	[00:37]
decimation	?You don?t get it?, says General Wang. ?The emperor is a suspicious man. He doesn?t trust anyone. Right now I have under my command 600,000 men, the entire army of the country. Every once in a while he must be asking himself: ?What if this Wang Jian guy rebels against me??."	[00:37]
decimation	And even if he doesn?t ask himself, there?s always an annoying eunuch paid by a rival general trying to backstab me, saying that I am famous and honorable, and that the opposition might rally around me, that I?m too powerful and must be killed sooner rather than later. Only by openly displaying that I am a vile, corrupt character who only cares about money, can I make the king trust that I have no higher ambition.?	[00:37]
decimation	And so Wang Jian kept sending messenger asking for stuff, and the King never suspected his loyalty. He liked his pettiness. Wang Jian went forward to invade Chu, destroy its armies, capture his king, and annexed the country into the soon to be Qin Empire. He went back home, and very unusual in a famous general, died a peaceful death.	[00:37]
mircea_popescu	hehe	[00:41]
decimation	^ the king (Ying Zheng) was the guy buried with a massive terra cotta army	[00:41]
mircea_popescu	aha	[00:42]
decimation	whose tomb is apparently still intact, and is rumored to contain an entire map of china with all the rivers made of mercury	[00:43]
mircea_popescu	mercury evaporates.	[00:44]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32866 @ 0.000414 = 13.6065 BTC [+] {2}	[00:45]
decimation	apparently they don't wanna open the tomb until they can be sure they won't ruin it	[00:45]
mircea_popescu	aha.	[00:45]
decimation	heh from la wik: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_Shi_Huang < "Mao Zedong, chairman of the People's Republic of China, was reviled for his persecution of intellectuals. On being compared to the First Emperor, Mao responded: "He buried 460 scholars alive; we have buried forty-six thousand scholars alive... You [intellectuals] revile us for being Qin Shi Huangs. You are wrong. We have surpassed Qin Shi Huang a hundredfold. When you ber	[00:46]
assbot	Qin Shi Huang - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRwx5O )	[00:46]
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mircea_popescu	!up Saoquim	[00:48]
-assbot-	You voiced Saoquim for 30 minutes.	[00:48]
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asciilifeform	decimation: mega-emperor. to me he is ~the~ emperor of cn, very overworked subject in books on the place i had as a kid	[00:56]
asciilifeform	esp. re: the 'immortality' business	[00:56]
decimation	yeah, according to la wik the traditional historiography focuses on his immortality 'schemes'	[00:56]
asciilifeform	died, iirc, of one too many 'immortality pills'	[00:56]
asciilifeform	'forever living' ! (tm)	[00:57]
decimation	yeah as i recall he took mercury pills	[00:57]
decimation	asciilifeform: did you even play 'romance of the three kingdoms' on nintendo?	[00:57]
asciilifeform	on emulator	[00:58]
asciilifeform	but - yes.	[00:58]
decimation	yeah, it was fun with a group	[00:58]
decimation	although the menu scroll became annoying	[00:58]
asciilifeform	it was one of the things that made me go 'folks played games on machines without keyboard ?!! how??!'	[00:59]
decimation	heh. 'we didn't know better'	[01:01]
decimation	although I also enjoyed several classic dos games like master of orion and x-wing	[01:01]
asciilifeform	to me, msdos was ~the~ games platform	[01:01]
asciilifeform	still is!	[01:01]
decimation	I believe early nintendo had keyboard (sold in japan)	[01:01]
asciilifeform	aha, 'famicom'	[01:02]
decimation	for some reason they declined to enter the 'cheap computer wars'	[01:02]
asciilifeform	when i heard of it, i couldn't help but parse it as 'famine' rather than the intended 'family' - console	[01:02]
asciilifeform	they declined to fight in the 8bit comp wars, and... we still have a nintendo co. to kick around	[01:03]
asciilifeform	unlike cbm, atari, et al	[01:03]
asciilifeform	(sega actually made a pc! with built-in 'genesis' ! and it even shared memory with the pc, somehow. unknown outside of jp)	[01:04]
*	decimation remembers fondly going to the video rental store to rent nintendo games	[01:04]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.00041414 = 3.3338 BTC [+]	[01:06]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21933 @ 0.00041414 = 9.0833 BTC [+]	[01:07]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00041414 = 1.698 BTC [+]	[01:33]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19511 @ 0.00040704 = 7.9418 BTC [-] {2}	[01:40]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30850 @ 0.00040449 = 12.4785 BTC [-]	[01:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43031 @ 0.00040191 = 17.2946 BTC [-] {2}	[01:49]
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mircea_popescu	!up Bingo_bar	[02:12]
-assbot-	You voiced Bingo_bar for 30 minutes.	[02:12]
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mircea_popescu	!up chicago	[02:16]
-assbot-	You voiced chicago for 30 minutes.	[02:17]
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Chicago	Hey thanks, Whats the topic this hour?	[02:17]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8415 @ 0.00040461 = 3.4048 BTC [+]	[02:22]
mircea_popescu	hm. nothing much.	[02:24]
scoopbot_revived	The actual state of the Bitcoin network http://trilema.com/2015/the-actual-state-of-the-bitcoin-network/	[02:25]
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cazalla	bingo_bar ya should be drinking and chatting to the honeys not irc nerds	[03:20]
mircea_popescu	such as http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm0mvqsaLC1qd25mzo1_1280.jpg	[03:26]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1LMdHZL )	[03:26]
cazalla	nice big areola	[03:27]
mircea_popescu	"We write elegant and minimal apps that works. We develop web apps with Django framework."	[03:35]
mircea_popescu	http://www.reddit.com/domain/dazzlepod.com/new/ << apparently this used to be a thing	[03:37]
assbot	newest submissions : dazzlepod.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1LMeA4D )	[03:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3001 @ 0.00041738 = 1.2526 BTC [+]	[03:53]
punkman	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIdT1LEUYAEUfwp.jpg	[03:54]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1LMg6Uk )	[03:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00041738 = 1.753 BTC [+]	[04:02]
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punkman	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIfFRqsVEAAsQZ4.jpg	[04:07]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1LMhmqw )	[04:07]
punkman	!up NewLiberty	[04:11]
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punkman	!up sinetek	[04:13]
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cazalla	https://www.mail-archive.com/bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org/msg00216.html	[04:43]
assbot	[bitcoin-dev] Upcoming DOS vulnerability announcements for Bitcoin Core ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nm5IDd )	[04:43]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25750 @ 0.00041738 = 10.7475 BTC [+]	[04:47]
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punkman	!up awokestillY2K	[05:18]
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awokestillY2K	thanks punk, rottentomatos is flagged too, loled on arnie	[05:19]
punkman	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33296839	[05:23]
assbot	Greece debt crisis: Tsipras announces bailout referendum - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hm1c7t )	[05:24]
punkman	apparently that's gonna cost about 100mil euros	[05:24]
mircea_popescu	what better use of money.	[05:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00040854 = 6.6592 BTC [-]	[05:32]
awokestillY2K	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMZmw-1wj5Q	[05:38]
assbot	LOLAWOLF - Every Fuckin Day - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hm2Iqg )	[05:38]
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cazalla	nice one america, now i'm gonna hear even more gay marriage bullshit downunder	[05:41]
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cazalla	not that i really give a fuck what a bunch of gender bender trans fluid unicorns do, just the fucking posturing "i'm sooo progressive look at moi, look at moi, look at moooi"	[05:43]
awokestillY2K	lol, who gives a fuck?	[05:45]
punkman	what if you are allergic to rainbows	[05:46]
awokestillY2K	aussie refferendum would cost n100 rainbows	[05:46]
cazalla	awokestillY2K, ya know this will be the hot topic the aus gov uses at the next election to pass the baton	[05:47]
awokestillY2K	bitcoin unaffected	[05:47]
awokestillY2K	you can thank your favourite god that noones forcing anyone to get married	[05:49]
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cazalla	!up awokestillY2K	[05:50]
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cazalla	u trollin' me vexual?	[05:51]
awokestillY2K	hell no	[05:51]
awokestillY2K	here im starting to work on 48 unit billable days tho	[05:52]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68944 @ 0.000402 = 27.7155 BTC [-] {2}	[05:52]
awokestillY2K	im looking for ore to build u a 316 10kg machete	[05:52]
cazalla	i'm good machete wise	[05:53]
awokestillY2K	nuff said	[05:53]
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awokestillY2K	machetes are for plantlife kids, lets make that clear	[06:04]
awokestillY2K	thats not illegal yet?	[06:05]
cazalla	http://gov.texas.gov/news/press-release/21131?utm_medium=social&utm_source=t.co&utm_campaign=20150626_txgov-p-scotus_samesexmarriage_06262015_twitter&utm_content=txgov	[06:06]
assbot	Office of the Governor - Greg Abbott - [Press Release] Governor Abbott Statement On Supreme Court Ruling On Same-Sex Marriage ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hm5dZI )	[06:06]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28800 @ 0.00039718 = 11.4388 BTC [-]	[06:07]
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awokestillY2K	personally, i'd prefer law and religion separate	[06:08]
awokestillY2K	too many abbotts	[06:09]
cazalla	i'm hoping it will act as kindling	[06:09]
awokestillY2K	howso?	[06:09]
cazalla	more crazies doing their thing is how	[06:11]
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awokestillY2K	meh	[06:15]
awokestillY2K	seen dope(2015) yet?	[06:18]
awokestillY2K	whats mine is mine whats yours is yours	[06:18]
cazalla	nah, have not been to the cinemas in years	[06:19]
awokestillY2K	me neither	[06:20]
awokestillY2K	i did see madmax on someones recoommendatiuon	[06:20]
awokestillY2K	poor cunt spent half the movie with forks for teeth	[06:21]
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cazalla	fuck paying $25 to sit through 45m of commercials.. the fucking hide	[06:22]
cazalla	!up awokestillY2K	[06:23]
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awokestillY2K	i think i paid 8.50	[06:23]
cazalla	independents bit too far for me to bother	[06:24]
awokestillY2K	check the xits for entry	[06:24]
awokestillY2K	youll rage tho	[06:25]
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awokestillY2K	if you're a madmax fan	[06:29]
fluffypony	cazalla: agreed	[06:31]
awokestillY2K	u seen it pony?	[06:31]
fluffypony	replaced our TV with a Canon WUX400ST	[06:31]
awokestillY2K	nevermind ill release the breeders	[06:32]
fluffypony	and got a Silver Ticket projector screen	[06:32]
awokestillY2K	not bothered	[06:32]
fluffypony	now there's no way I'm going to the movies again	[06:32]
awokestillY2K	i got stuck to the seat	[06:32]
awokestillY2K	waiting for 3d	[06:33]
awokestillY2K	oldman moved, tasty arrived	[06:34]
awokestillY2K	i dont see it	[06:34]
cazalla	can't see 3d.. took me something like 20 years to understand why i couldn't see those stereoscopic books as a kid too	[06:34]
awokestillY2K	its a schooner!	[06:37]
cazalla	ya drinking awokestillY2K ?	[06:38]
awokestillY2K	^mallratz	[06:39]
cazalla	i'll take that as a yes (still sober this month)	[06:39]
awokestillY2K	im planning sober 2.0	[06:39]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17332 @ 0.00039868 = 6.9099 BTC [+]	[06:40]
cazalla	i'm thinking i'll refrain unless i make it myself.. have a guava here and in a few years time shahtoot mulberries should be big enough to make something	[06:41]
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awokestillY2K	bats rape mine	[06:43]
cazalla	put up some netting	[06:43]
awokestillY2K	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjrf6vzrV6w	[06:43]
assbot	Awreeoh - Don't Get Deleted - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnl3ah )	[06:43]
cazalla	we had possums.. had	[06:43]
awokestillY2K	fuck that, gotta pull the cunts out, hendra	[06:43]
awokestillY2K	rabies too	[06:44]
awokestillY2K	how to solve possum?	[06:44]
cazalla	ask them nicely to leave?	[06:44]
awokestillY2K	whats the purple bin for?	[06:45]
cazalla	nfi	[06:46]
awokestillY2K	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W54z1Yvvtos	[06:47]
assbot	Coloured bins \| Problems \| Starts 9pm, Wednesday, 21 Nov 2012 on ABC1 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnlm4X )	[06:47]
cazalla	aww shit mate gotta put the bins out	[06:48]
awokestillY2K	lol	[06:48]
awokestillY2K	u should hear my recycling bin	[06:49]
awokestillY2K	breaking glass	[06:49]
awokestillY2K	neighbours know whats going on like ur dicks on tumbler	[06:51]
cazalla	nah, that bouncing sound	[06:51]
awokestillY2K	shit dont break	[06:51]
cazalla	one for you awokestillY2K https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSiehK2asbI	[06:52]
assbot	#ProudToLove - Celebrating Marriage Equality and LGBT Pride Month - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnlEbO )	[06:52]
awokestillY2K	man i love rainbows as much as the next guy, but i like pussy	[06:53]
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cazalla	how self absorbed can one be to make a coming out video where you don't really come out to your parents but just send them a link to a video	[06:55]
cazalla	!up awokestillY2K	[07:00]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23550 @ 0.00040982 = 9.6513 BTC [+]	[07:01]
awokestillY2K	does anyone not read ass these days?	[07:02]
awokestillY2K	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9_YSj9wyjQ	[07:06]
assbot	Snoop Dogg, Dr.Dre & Jewell - Just Dippin' - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnmBkr )	[07:06]
cazalla	awokestillY2K, http://8ch.net/b/res/3236027.html pic one	[07:10]
assbot	/b/ - Clothes on and off ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnn2Lu )	[07:10]
awokestillY2K	you want me to quote on areolae?	[07:11]
cazalla	whatever takes your fancy	[07:12]
awokestillY2K	quick glance i see nothing	[07:12]
cazalla	half these women have shaving rash mind you, guess noone told em about wax	[07:12]
awokestillY2K	theres ;;lasers now	[07:13]
awokestillY2K	big in milan	[07:13]
awokestillY2K	!g japan gorilla	[07:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41100 @ 0.00041392 = 17.0121 BTC [+] {2}	[07:15]
cazalla	damn this one used a broken bottle to shave http://8ch.net/b/src/1435255283858-2.jpg	[07:18]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1BJnjEg )	[07:18]
cazalla	check the arms heh	[07:18]
cazalla	http://8ch.net/b/src/1435255745416-2.jpg hairy, like animal!	[07:20]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1BJnBem )	[07:20]
awokestillY2K	hey if you dont want a precise machete thats ur biz	[07:21]
cazalla	nothing like a bit of period on the thighs http://8ch.net/b/src/1435256482469-0.jpg	[07:22]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1BJnOOH )	[07:22]
awokestillY2K	im orf to bali to buy cocaine from a north african and install the latest russian adobe update]	[07:22]
awokestillY2K	its all ruit, what else u got?	[07:23]
awokestillY2K	*ruin	[07:23]
awokestillY2K	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=815O6Qj2Nx8	[07:26]
assbot	South Pacific: Bali Hai - 1949, Martin & Pinza - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dno4Hx )	[07:26]
cazalla	ya know that ukrainian doll never came back	[07:26]
awokestillY2K	which one?	[07:26]
cazalla	mfc	[07:26]
awokestillY2K	wha?	[07:26]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29684 @ 0.0004134 = 12.2714 BTC [-]	[07:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 99 @ 0.054 = 5.346 BTC [-]	[07:27]
awokestillY2K	shes prolly making more elsewhere	[07:29]
awokestillY2K	aint no crime	[07:30]
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cazalla	!up awokestillY2K	[07:31]
*	assbot gives voice to awokestillY2K	[07:31]
awokestillY2K	oh	[07:33]
cazalla	shame that nearly all of 'em don't give as much as a smile	[07:33]
awokestillY2K	sorry, thats on me	[07:34]
awokestillY2K	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2z9lkNn6zQ	[07:34]
assbot	Bali High OST - "Bali High" [Official Video] - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnoD40 )	[07:34]
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awokestillY2K	^	[07:41]
cazalla	!up sinetek	[07:42]
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awokestillY2K	!up sinetek	[07:42]
cazalla	ya know if you regged a fucking gpg key ya might be able to do that awokestillY2K	[07:42]
awokestillY2K	when eulora has instructions	[07:43]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23989 @ 0.00041485 = 9.9518 BTC [+] {2}	[07:44]
awokestillY2K	whats ur story sinetek?	[07:44]
cazalla	awokestillY2K, it does	[07:44]
awokestillY2K	where?	[07:44]
cazalla	awokestillY2K, see it is already starting http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-27/us-supreme-court-ruling-same-sex-marriage-australia-debate-mps/6578058	[07:45]
assbot	US Supreme Court ruling in favour of same-sex marriage could influence debate in Australia, federal politicians say - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnp7Hv )	[07:45]
awokestillY2K	dafuq?	[07:45]
awokestillY2K	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-Dsq41LY28	[07:51]
assbot	Apartment - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnpAJC )	[07:51]
awokestillY2K	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3NWOa6K7MI	[07:54]
assbot	Major Lazer & DJ Snake - Lean On (Feat. MØ) (Jonas Aden Remix) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnpLEL )	[07:54]
awokestillY2K	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqeW9_5kURI	[07:59]
assbot	Major Lazer & DJ Snake - Lean On (feat. MØ) (Official Music Video) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnq56y )	[07:59]
awokestillY2K	0 princesses	[08:00]
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lobbesbot	New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Heiko ; ) \|\| Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=30064771079 (Heiko ; )	[08:04]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1JpoJ9K )	[08:04]
punkman	lots of empty ATMs from what I hear	[08:05]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18689 @ 0.00040982 = 7.6591 BTC [-]	[08:09]
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punkman	!up awokestillY2K	[08:14]
*	assbot gives voice to awokestillY2K	[08:14]
awokestillY2K	greek atms?	[08:14]
punkman	ye	[08:14]
punkman	also acquaintances told to come back monday when they tried to take out cash yesterday	[08:15]
punkman	before then announcement that is	[08:15]
punkman	*the	[08:15]
awokestillY2K	look on the bright side, youll prolly get cool aussie polymer notes u can swim wit	[08:16]
awokestillY2K	we're tight with the imf	[08:16]
punkman	gonna be a fun week I guess	[08:16]
awokestillY2K	!g red diamond	[08:17]
awokestillY2K	argyles autioning the reddest stone ever	[08:17]
awokestillY2K	http://www.businessinsider.com.au/photos-the-2015-argyle-pink-diamond-tender-2015-6 shes in fashion	[08:20]
assbot	PHOTOS: The 2015 Argyle pink diamond tender \| Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1JppSy1 )	[08:20]
awokestillY2K	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNPA68htGxk	[08:21]
assbot	Suede - She's In Fashion - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JppUpM )	[08:21]
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awokestillY2K	euro was a fucked idea from day 1	[08:25]
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awokestillY2K	really what r u selling?	[08:26]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66000 @ 0.00041953 = 27.689 BTC [+] {5}	[08:27]
awokestillY2K	punkman might not care but erry useless cunt on the floor wants out	[08:28]
awokestillY2K	thats about right eh punk?	[08:29]
punkman	yeah everyone taking out their 500eur to keep under the mattress	[08:29]
awokestillY2K	meanwhile errone with a shed heres syntheticing diamonds	[08:30]
punkman	gonna be a great week for burglars	[08:30]
awokestillY2K	really?	[08:30]
punkman	well not hard to hide 10 bills, but I'm sure there'll be some jackpots	[08:31]
awokestillY2K	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNPA68htGxk	[08:32]
assbot	Suede - She's In Fashion - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1RG7QGZ )	[08:32]
awokestillY2K	wrong	[08:32]
awokestillY2K	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emutat3_IP0	[08:33]
assbot	John Farnham - Pressure Down - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1RG7TTm )	[08:33]
awokestillY2K	wronger	[08:33]
punkman	here ya go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nAH97GazGo	[08:34]
assbot	Σπύρος γραμμένος & χορωδία "αγάπη ρε+" Έπεσα απ' τα σύννεφα - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1RG7XlZ )	[08:34]
awokestillY2K	whats tyhis?	[08:37]
awokestillY2K	tastes like lamb goat	[08:40]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 306 @ 0.00629999 = 1.9278 BTC [-]	[08:42]
awokestillY2K	where goat is best lamb,being most resourceful	[08:43]
awokestillY2K	i only eat the cheese, but still	[08:44]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00041665 = 9.1246 BTC [-]	[08:49]
punkman	!up awokestillY2K	[08:52]
*	assbot gives voice to awokestillY2K	[08:52]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23850 @ 0.00039718 = 9.4727 BTC [-]	[08:55]
awokestillY2K	http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1vxlr7_cypress-hill-rusko-feat-damian-marley-can-t-keep-me-down_music <<	[08:56]
assbot	Cypress Hill & Rusko feat Damian Marley "Can't Keep Me Down" - Video Dailymotion ... ( http://bit.ly/1RG9DvN )	[08:56]
awokestillY2K	senn dogg left after this	[08:59]
awokestillY2K	do you even mine?	[09:02]
awokestillY2K	pankkake?	[09:02]
awokestillY2K	back pon a forum	[09:02]
awokestillY2K	u think we dont wake up and check github?	[09:03]
awokestillY2K	we need u bruz	[09:03]
awokestillY2K	whatever	[09:04]
awokestillY2K	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU769XX_dIQ	[09:07]
assbot	Nicki Minaj - Only (Lyric) ft. Drake, Lil Wayne, Chris Brown - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1RGavQY )	[09:08]
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awokestillY2K	u need to make you a sword?	[09:11]
awokestillY2K	i think i owe u 0.5	[09:11]
awokestillY2K	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQBttKoetqo	[09:14]
assbot	paranoid black sabbath (lyrics included) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1fMDx5D )	[09:14]
punkman	sword or machete	[09:14]
awokestillY2K	machete dont text	[09:15]
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awokestillY2K	and is heavy	[09:15]
awokestillY2K	fuck a gookface	[09:15]
awokestillY2K	gookface gets +5	[09:15]
awokestillY2K	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Lft6EQh-Y	[09:17]
assbot	full metal jacket intro monologue - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1RGbf8Q )	[09:17]
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punkman	!up BtQqZrS6gLw	[09:55]
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punkman	are those brainwallets	[09:55]
BtQqZrS6gLw	nah that kylie minogue circa '93	[09:56]
BtQqZrS6gLw	0 brain	[09:56]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 98758 @ 0.00039335 = 38.8465 BTC [-] {4}	[09:57]
BtQqZrS6gLw	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHguy4xHGSg	[10:04]
assbot	Future - Move That Dope ft. Pharrell Williams, Pusha T - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpyPHC )	[10:04]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21762 @ 0.00039198 = 8.5303 BTC [-] {2}	[10:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9588 @ 0.00039113 = 3.7502 BTC [-] {2}	[10:06]
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BtQqZrS6gLw	http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2t1kzo < buried to the bingoboingos	[10:11]
assbot	The Dukes of Hazzard S03E18 By-Line, Daisy Duke - Video Dailymotion ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpzrgF )	[10:11]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00039587 = 4.7504 BTC [+]	[10:14]
BtQqZrS6gLw	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm8duRDsS8E	[10:17]
assbot	WOLF CREEK Trailer (HD) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpA4a3 )	[10:17]
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BtQqZrS6gLw	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-yj2Gv2Zq8	[10:22]
assbot	Machete Dildo - You're a Cop (Anal Cunt Cover) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpAyNd )	[10:22]
BtQqZrS6gLw	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5hA5EuwVfA	[10:24]
assbot	Machete Don't Text! - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FGVN5f )	[10:24]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00039587 = 1.0491 BTC [+]	[10:30]
punkman	!up doyouevenpan	[10:31]
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doyouevenpan	machete being the motherfuckinest	[10:32]
doyouevenpan	put the fuck on a horse hell inver and ride pon the belly strap	[10:34]
punkman	http://hexatomium.github.io/2015/06/26/ms-very-quietly-adds-18-new-trusted-root-certs/	[10:35]
assbot	Microsoft quietly pushes 18 new trusted root certificates · HA	[10:35]
doyouevenpan	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVfA9r-AVOg	[10:37]
assbot	Daryl Braithwaite - One Summer - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpCfKu )	[10:37]
doyouevenpan	i challenge bb to karaoke this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwoK0u52Tw4	[10:41]
assbot	Kaoma - Lambada (HQ) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpCGEI )	[10:41]
doyouevenpan	better draw a line on fat hate	[10:43]
doyouevenpan	eureka!	[10:45]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00039443 = 8.8352 BTC [-]	[10:46]
doyouevenpan	u need a seamstress tape?	[10:46]
doyouevenpan	just go around!	[10:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35753 @ 0.00039112 = 13.9837 BTC [-]	[10:47]
doyouevenpan	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSKJQ18ZoIA	[10:50]
assbot	Ritchie Valens - La Bamba - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FGWXxH )	[10:50]
doyouevenpan	dh4	[10:51]
doyouevenpan	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSuHVYv_dh4	[10:52]
assbot	Earache My Eye Metal - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FGX4JE )	[10:52]
doyouevenpan	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJW67QN24SA	[10:52]
assbot	Cheech & Chong - Earache My Eye - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpDUzT )	[10:52]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17985 @ 0.00040181 = 7.2266 BTC [+] {2}	[10:54]
doyouevenpan	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alyx4QeRRdg < vuples	[10:56]
assbot	Cheech & Chong - Low Rider - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpEfme )	[10:56]
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*	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets	[17:32]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://log.bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com	[17:32]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 16:58:12 2014	[17:32]
-assbot-	Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), send me "!up" in a private message to get an OTP. You must have a sufficient WoT rating. If you do not have a WoT account or sufficient rating, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary voice.	[17:32]
*	assbot gives voice to mircea_popescu	[17:33]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179037 << i thought you didn't exist.	[17:43]
assbot	Logged on 27-06-2015 15:57:03; mats: four months of trading on mpex has turned 40btc into almost 80	[17:43]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179073 << hey could it link to the actual key page rather than the rss ?	[17:44]
assbot	Logged on 27-06-2015 18:08:28; lobbesbot: New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=12884901891 (Christoph Giesel ; ) \|\| Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=12884901891 (Christoph Giesel ; )	[17:44]
*	asciilifeform asked this today..	[17:44]
mircea_popescu	ah.	[17:45]
mircea_popescu	and in other news... 73.	[17:45]
mircea_popescu	Trustcenter_EU ; among the lulziest.	[17:45]
asciilifeform	thrustcenter	[17:45]
mircea_popescu	lol	[17:45]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179158 << it's a hash. and chopping hashes is quite possibly how we ended up on planet with phuctorable keys in the first place!	[17:47]
assbot	Logged on 27-06-2015 20:07:59; jurov: asciilifeform stuff like this would deserve link shortener http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F23D7F58ABF380DED38B90B7A863487995DE825B7123B745156A8C49D63469DE#6A592C27FA423D7611456BE2AB693337463EA07754CAA07957D6AFCFA63984E2	[17:47]
mircea_popescu	heh	[17:49]
jurov	i see. full hashes should be used everywhere. except for btc-dev patches ;D	[17:49]
mircea_popescu	not like anyon ahahahaha zing	[17:49]
mircea_popescu	not like anyone types those by hand or tries to memorize them jurov	[17:49]
mircea_popescu	what's the actual ux case for shortening it.	[17:49]
jurov	btw, have you seen my conclusion that gpg signature does not contain anything useful?	[17:49]
asciilifeform	jurov: yes!	[17:50]
asciilifeform	jurov: you were quite right, it won't do, and i oughta have remembered this factoid	[17:50]
mircea_popescu	assbot: Unwind Better on the Balcony of This 1BR/1BA Apartment Today! <<< ahahaha omfg.	[17:50]
asciilifeform	but munged filenames still stink	[17:50]
mircea_popescu	i'd have so much trouble paying more than 4, maaaaybe 500 bucks for something like that....	[17:51]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: 500 buys a doghouse here. don't even want to imagine what it buys on west coast usa	[17:51]
jurov	well. i am sending hashes in headers too, but getting anyone to use them...	[17:51]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179112 << don't be a noob. dishes are merely the expansion of an invisible slave empire. if you have jets you better have slave hands to go to the farmer market, and to fill the dishes, anbd to wash the dishes.	[17:52]
assbot	Logged on 27-06-2015 18:56:30; asciilifeform: does jurov have dishes ?	[17:52]
mircea_popescu	jurov i suspect trhat is the correct approach : add to the header space.	[17:52]
asciilifeform	whatever happened to the dark future of robot slaves	[17:52]
mircea_popescu	fuck that.	[17:53]
mircea_popescu	figuratively speaking.	[17:53]
asciilifeform	see, i'm one of those weirdos who keeps, for instance, a computerized vacuum cleaner	[17:53]
asciilifeform	because 1) no i won't do it with bare hands 2) yes, could pay people, but i ~fucking hate people~	[17:53]
mircea_popescu	in other news, omfg bitcoind is a hog.	[17:54]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: which one ?	[17:54]
mircea_popescu	the stock one.	[17:54]
mircea_popescu	we fucking forget. omfg the thing... no wonder nobody runs it. i doubt very much it can be run. like, at all.	[17:54]
asciilifeform	(yes, they're all porcine, but which hog? the little piglet, the muscular european boar, or the half-tonne monster fucked on midwest usa farms ..?)	[17:54]
mircea_popescu	i am looking at 10!!111 load on a 8 cpu, 32 gb raid ssd machine.	[17:54]
asciilifeform	it doesn't parallelize	[17:55]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu oughtaknowthat	[17:55]
mircea_popescu	the cpu utilization is actually low, but the load is immense because i dunno wtf it does but something stupid.	[17:55]
asciilifeform	i/o	[17:55]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform yeah, it's multithreaded doesn't parallelize :D	[17:55]
mircea_popescu	it's from teh future.	[17:55]
asciilifeform	there's precisely 1 thread that does actual werk	[17:56]
asciilifeform	(if you like thinking about scary dangerous forkz, picture changing this!)	[17:56]
jurov	mircea_popescu: did you publish your addy? it may be an attack	[17:57]
mircea_popescu	this is an unadvertised test run of various releases.	[17:58]
jurov	my 0.10 is chugging around on celeron+5400rpm spinning rot okay	[17:58]
mircea_popescu	the advertised seeder has been working more or less ok - it's not being attacked more than is implicit in the protocol lol.	[17:58]
mircea_popescu	something to the tune of 30ish connections, which seems reasonable for a day old peer.	[17:58]
jurov	o it still syncs?	[17:59]
jurov	lol no it actually died	[18:00]
jurov	2015-06-27 19:30:42 ERROR: AcceptToMemoryPool : nonstandard transaction: dust	[18:00]
jurov	2015-06-27 19:30:48 ERROR: ReadBlockFromDisk : OpenBlockFile failed	[18:00]
jurov	^last log before croaking	[18:00]
asciilifeform	http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/bchafy/tiny/tinyterminal.html << archaeological interest	[18:00]
assbot	Smallest 80x25 PC display for less than $20 and other tiny screens ... ( http://bit.ly/1LuZkLq )	[18:00]
mircea_popescu	jurov so wait, is this your 0.10 that was working ok ?	[18:01]
jurov	was.	[18:01]
mircea_popescu	lol	[18:01]
mircea_popescu	"oh my computer is working fine with bitcoind stopped on it"	[18:02]
mircea_popescu	as an absolute prerequisite to any sort of block increase we ABSOLUTELY MUST clean up these shit-stables	[18:02]
jurov	it ran for months till hour and half ago	[18:02]
jurov	watching it restart...	[18:03]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform btw in the spirit of the "connect" issue : having public and private data separate is iirc not supported STILL. you gotta keep the wallet.dat in same place you keep the blockchain. gold help you if you want it encrypted.	[18:07]
asciilifeform	wallet has to be sawn off as discussed in the past	[18:08]
mircea_popescu	this without going into why the wallet.dat, after being plaintext for a coupla years, was only half-ass encryupted.	[18:08]
scoopbot_revived	A second crack at that scary thing. http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/27/a-second-crack-at-that-scary-thing/	[18:08]
asciilifeform	anything short of that is waste of time	[18:08]
asciilifeform	(wallet on separate box, z80 if you like, etc)	[18:08]
mircea_popescu	wasn't trying to write policy, just bemoan existing insanity.	[18:08]
asciilifeform	if you just want it in some other dir, symlink...	[18:09]
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mircea_popescu	i just amply dislike ~the design~ of it.	[18:10]
asciilifeform	not even sure what there is to ~like~ in the design	[18:10]
asciilifeform	it successfully passes for microshit product, stylistically (and in many ways functionally)	[18:10]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179126 << i have them too, the result is that i sometimes forget to sleep./	[18:11]
assbot	Logged on 27-06-2015 19:04:04; asciilifeform: except that sometimes forget to wake up	[18:11]
asciilifeform	same effect here.	[18:11]
asciilifeform	and i don't have a clock (other than emacs clock) in the room either	[18:11]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform ahaha if it turns out this was actually written by poor ms indian slavebois, who kept anon simply because of the draconing IP contracts thery had signed...	[18:11]
asciilifeform	or buried alive with the thing	[18:12]
asciilifeform	egyptian-style	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform it's a wonder i even managed to make the conference at all. i haven't had a watch or aty allcared about time in a decade.	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	at some point travelling i was like "fuck it, WHO CARES what time they thinkg it is."	[18:12]
asciilifeform	wat, mircea_popescu doesn't have a girl follow him around imitating clock hands with arms, legs...?!	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	nah.	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	there is a "no undies - i wanna be able to fondle your cunt" rule, but s'about all.	[18:13]
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mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski i have nfi what you're proposing, but my thinking is that it's more expensive and less productive to think proactively rather than reactively.	[18:14]
mircea_popescu	once a bot or w/e goes off, we see what we do. before, we don't give a shit.	[18:14]
*	asciilifeform mumbles something about parachutes	[18:14]
mircea_popescu	this of course is painful for every good white boy to hear, as it's strictly antipattern and countercultural,	[18:14]
mircea_popescu	and im sure it exactly - irritates alf's parachutes.	[18:14]
mircea_popescu	nevertheless, there is great benefit to being antipattern countercultural when being a guerilla.	[18:14]
asciilifeform	of course folks often forget the other thing about the parachute thing - in sov army, they usedta make you sign it, 'i folded this parachute myself. signed, pvt. schmuck'	[18:15]
mircea_popescu	if it made sense to not be thus, you couldn't be, ~COULD NOT BE~ a guerilla if you wanted to	[18:15]
mircea_popescu	which is why gi joe is so useless in the field.	[18:15]
mircea_popescu	other than that, published code is a good idea, sure. but also - anything is its maker property, and the people in question makin things can best decide what to do with it.	[18:16]
asciilifeform	phun phakt: my father was conscripted into a parachutist regiment. and by that time (late '60s) schmucks were no longer! permitted to fold their own.	[18:16]
asciilifeform	sergeant folded.	[18:16]
mircea_popescu	i think most everyone's using github or w/e - but it wouldn't maybe be such a bad idea to start putting deeds out with the code bundles. with instructions. "run this so and so"	[18:16]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform heh	[18:16]
asciilifeform	turned out, the 'fold your own' thing resulted in too many (from pov of command) splats.	[18:17]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: deeds with code bundles and instructions makes sense.	[18:17]
pete_dushenski	and i have no qualms with reacting to circumstance, i'm more getting at : what's to be done with unassigned functions	[18:18]
mircea_popescu	pick a gun pick a post.	[18:18]
mircea_popescu	how every revolutionary war was ever won.	[18:18]
pete_dushenski	pick a gun, pick a post ? not familiar with this one	[18:19]
asciilifeform	pete_dushenski: here's an unassigned gun for some eager fella: crap out an ibmpc buildroot for therealbitcoin. as in, something one could throw in the iso slot at a datacentre	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	a loosely maintained list of posts, and a loosely maintained list of "don't shoot that way dummy" makes sense, but s'about all.	[18:19]
asciilifeform	ideally, no install, just finds a block device and shits blockchain to it	[18:19]
asciilifeform	without asking questions	[18:19]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: nvm, got the post-gun thing now	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform you know this isn't a random process. what makes you think it's for him ?	[18:19]
asciilifeform	it isn't	[18:19]
asciilifeform	just example!	[18:20]
mircea_popescu	aha.	[18:20]
asciilifeform	of an empty post	[18:20]
mircea_popescu	atm the entry level thing for coders is, "follow the pogo thing, build along, test cases etc". for non-coders is, qntra.	[18:20]
mircea_popescu	for artists i suppose it's eulora work etc. there's really no shortage o shit to do.	[18:20]
mircea_popescu	kinda why i keep asking people "who are you". nobody seems to ever be anyone, which is odd, but anyway.	[18:21]
pete_dushenski	asciilifeform: the ibmpc buildroot sounds like a spec for the 'trilema jobs board'	[18:21]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu is really asking'em 'кто ты по жизни'	[18:21]
mircea_popescu	aye.	[18:22]
asciilifeform	and they don't feel like answering, so we can sorta guess!	[18:22]
mircea_popescu	hehe wouldn't go that far	[18:22]
mircea_popescu	"the demands of meatspace readily overwhelm the demands of #bitcoin-assets" << this is everyone's own measure to measure.	[18:22]
asciilifeform	i propose the standard unit of measure be '1 moiety'	[18:22]
pete_dushenski	insert "may" in there, mentally	[18:22]
asciilifeform	large unit, like farad	[18:22]
mircea_popescu	i don't see why i'd want to have an equivalent of the mcd supervisor, calling people at home to remind them they work.	[18:23]
mircea_popescu	just not what this thing's supposed to be, in my dreams.	[18:23]
pete_dushenski	well, people still need incentives	[18:24]
pete_dushenski	sometimes financial, sometimes honourary, sometimes a million other things in a million other ways	[18:24]
mircea_popescu	yes, but the deliberate design of incentive structures is a bad idea.	[18:25]
mircea_popescu	because the only thing it does is select for and breed rats.	[18:25]
mircea_popescu	much like tests in school select for and breed test takers.	[18:25]
pete_dushenski	hm. i have more mulling to do on the topic, it seems.	[18:27]
mircea_popescu	for that matter, people also need self-esteem. i'm not about to "provide" it for them, in vacu-sealed packages. and they need to hunt, which does not reduce to "i'ma let a half dozen naked girlies loose in their room see what happens". that's how rich people destroy their children.	[18:27]
pete_dushenski	is providing something to hunt, or the directions to the hunting field, not 'incentive structure' ?	[18:28]
mircea_popescu	seems you've fucked that hole into some looseness by now...	[18:28]
asciilifeform	didn't mircea_popescu teach us that holes work-anneal ?	[18:28]
mircea_popescu	real ones, yes.	[18:28]
asciilifeform	(like aluminum)	[18:29]
mircea_popescu	kinda how you know if you're fucking live or plastic.	[18:29]
mircea_popescu	(btw - never ask virgin to clamp down on you. it's a little discussed fact that vast majority of penis captivus cases come out of something lik that)	[18:30]
*	asciilifeform never saw anything like solid evidence that said effect actually exists in man	[18:31]
mircea_popescu	(because of the tearing, vagal never innervation makes the smooth muscles over-reactive)	[18:31]
mircea_popescu	does, does.	[18:31]
mircea_popescu	;;google vaginismus	[18:31]
gribble	Vaginismus: Causes, Symptoms, and Treatment - WebMD: ; Vaginismus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; When Sex Hurts – Vaginismus - SOGC:	[18:31]
asciilifeform	^ not same as captivus	[18:31]
mircea_popescu	but very related. a spasm is always at the root of both	[18:32]
mircea_popescu	think of pc as "vaginismus that declared while guy was inside"	[18:32]
asciilifeform	well yes, this is the theory	[18:33]
mircea_popescu	(amusingly enough, romanian even has expression to describe this in man - "s-or catelit" ie, they've doggied themselves)	[18:33]
asciilifeform	but evidence for actual case of 'stuck' (in man, not dog) is approx. on par with evidence for loch ness dinosaur	[18:33]
mircea_popescu	you can't get stuck in dog.	[18:33]
mircea_popescu	missing some anatomy.	[18:33]
asciilifeform	dog in dog	[18:33]
mircea_popescu	ah	[18:33]
asciilifeform	(where this is sop)	[18:33]
mircea_popescu	anyway, nah, it happens.	[18:34]
mircea_popescu	dja regard priapismus in same light incidentally ?	[18:34]
asciilifeform	nah that one's bog-simple anatomically	[18:34]
asciilifeform	and pestilentially common	[18:34]
mircea_popescu	aha. same principle tho.	[18:34]
mircea_popescu	innervation driven muscular spasms blocks blood egress	[18:34]
mircea_popescu	ftr, there is no serious evidence as to the exact fisiology of vaginismus either.	[18:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45560 @ 0.00039442 = 17.9698 BTC [+] {2}	[18:35]
mircea_popescu	just accepted.	[18:36]
mircea_popescu	The Most Serene Republic Of~ << this sounds great i gotta say.	[18:36]
pete_dushenski	twas a mighty invention, that.	[18:38]
*	asciilifeform owns a book with title 'the of' on the spine	[18:38]
mircea_popescu	"I am Hilde, from the Most Serene Republic of Tilde"	[18:39]
pete_dushenski	sounds blonde	[18:40]
asciilifeform	hilde, the she-wolf of tildeschwitz	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	ahaha	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	totally. tildeschwitz.	[18:42]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00038756 = 4.6895 BTC [-]	[18:43]
asciilifeform	pete_dushenski: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/motivation.html << re: article - see also.	[18:44]
assbot	Studies Find Reward Often No Motivator - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation ... ( http://bit.ly/1fWBSKT )	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	rewards work well if they're genuine.	[18:44]
*	pete_dushenski reading	[18:44]
jurov	haha, so far "eulora client hacker" positions were filled quickest	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	which is to say : come from things not people.	[18:44]
jurov	dunno about reward there	[18:44]
asciilifeform	genuine in the sense that 'i killed this bison myself'	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	jurov you can fly!	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform exactly.	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	the bison - genuinely died.	[18:45]
asciilifeform	and tasty	[18:45]
mircea_popescu	how tasty it is never amounts to much impediment.	[18:45]
asciilifeform	well, at least rudimentarily edible	[18:45]
mircea_popescu	cum's the tastiest thing i nature from what i hear, nobody hunts the cock.	[18:45]
punkman	I trimmed the bison's butthairs, but they grew back.	[18:45]
mircea_popescu	actually... nevermind. my burgeois mentality betrays me.,	[18:46]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28700 @ 0.00040059 = 11.4969 BTC [+] {3}	[18:47]
jurov	orly, nobody hunts the cocks?	[18:48]
jurov	scientia sciolorum est mixta ignorantia	[18:50]
jurov	(just some snippet i found today, might be vaguely related, but smells by lingua latina canina)	[18:53]
jurov	https://lurkmore.to/Lingua_latina_non_penis_canina lmao	[18:54]
assbot	Lingua latina non penis canina — Lurkmore ... ( http://bit.ly/1dpchbL )	[18:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16490 @ 0.00040105 = 6.6133 BTC [+]	[18:57]
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jurov	my favourite motto was lately "Historia meretrix vitae" .. on seeing these examples I'm thinking how to get it more...er.. penetrating	[19:02]
mircea_popescu	lol	[19:05]
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pete_dushenski	https://www.google.ca/finance?q=SHA%3A000001&ei=_R6PVaHrOoWo2AaA5YPYDw << shanghai composite index taking a tumble of late.	[19:14]
assbot	SSE Composite Index: SHA:000001 quotes & news – Google Finance ... ( http://bit.ly/1dpeaoQ )	[19:14]
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pete_dushenski	also, google finance is as bad as gbtc on otcmarkets : "52 week 1,844.09 - 4,526.92" when peak is clearly 5166 on june 12	[19:17]
pete_dushenski	how hard it this shit ?	[19:17]
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pete_dushenski	either way, an index losing 19% in two weeks is 2008-level of panic	[19:19]
jurov	SHA got cracked?	[19:21]
williamdunne	Down a flight of stairs	[19:21]
mats	http://log.b-a.link/?date=27-06-2015#1179167 << ?	[19:23]
assbot	Logged on 27-06-2015 20:39:10; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179037 << i thought you didn't exist.	[19:23]
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williamdunne	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-06-2015#1176379 << I win	[19:24]
assbot	Logged on 25-06-2015 17:05:14; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-06-2015#1174811 << ya << shit, there go my ocr skills!	[19:24]
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punkman	http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Want-a-shorter-commute-Pay-900-to-live-in-a-6349066.php	[19:26]
assbot	Want a shorter commute? Pay $900 a month to live in a tent near Google - SFGate ... ( http://bit.ly/1dpfbx8 )	[19:26]
asciilifeform	^ not tent	[19:27]
asciilifeform	scam.	[19:27]
asciilifeform	or hm, just irrelevant photo	[19:27]
asciilifeform	'Rented a tent, a tent, a tent; / Rented a tent, a tent, a tent. / Rented a tent! / Rented a tent! / Rented a, rented a tent.' -- k. vonnegut. 'sirens of titan' (1959)	[19:28]
pete_dushenski	;;ticker	[19:30]
gribble	Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 251.3, Best ask: 251.31, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 251.32, 24 hour volume: 18319.32232325, 24 hour low: 242.6, 24 hour high: 251.77, 24 hour vwap: None	[19:30]
asciilifeform	google folks should prepare for the 5000/mo tents.	[19:32]
asciilifeform	because market!	[19:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46550 @ 0.00041582 = 19.3564 BTC [+]	[19:32]
asciilifeform	nobody cancelled marketz!	[19:34]
asciilifeform	that they aren't breathing $5/litre air is only a matter of technological limitations.	[19:35]
asciilifeform	when they can - will.	[19:35]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76888 @ 0.00041664 = 32.0346 BTC [+] {2}	[19:36]
jurov	free daily cremations!	[19:38]
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williamdunne	Any speculation on what's going to happen with Greece in the coming years then?	[20:02]
williamdunne	Massive decline or outright collapse, followed by the rise of a Nazi party or similar?	[20:02]
jurov	preposterous prosperity!	[20:03]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179302 << it certainly leads to, how shall i put it, "wordiness" on qntra. certainly not all the time, but that's the temptation.	[20:08]
assbot	Logged on 27-06-2015 21:21:25; mircea_popescu: yes, but the deliberate design of incentive structures is a bad idea.	[20:08]
trinque	pete_dushenski: part of the answer to the question of making the republic's bot services fault tolerant is getting them within a damn wotnet	[20:09]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00041319 = 6.3218 BTC [+]	[20:09]
pete_dushenski	how do you mean ?	[20:09]
trinque	well, suppose for example someone hates freedom and steals deedbot.org from me	[20:10]
cazalla	pete_dushenski, be specific because i go so far as to exclude the monthly reports from the word counts	[20:10]
pete_dushenski	trinque: go on...	[20:11]
asciilifeform	trinque: wotnet still made of people	[20:11]
trinque	from within the wotnet I may (depending on its design) be able to explicitly delegate the hosting task to some other trusted party should I be absent	[20:11]
pete_dushenski	cazalla: mostly bb's run-on redundancies.	[20:12]
pete_dushenski	cazalla: i have no problem with network diff posts btw	[20:12]
trinque	asciilifeform: yes but not made of DNS necessarily, or any particular IP	[20:12]
cazalla	i really don't think he does that in order to scoop up a few additional shares though	[20:12]
mircea_popescu	williamdunne no dude. greece has the african scam down pat.	[20:12]
mircea_popescu	it's going to simply leech money off a different husband	[20:13]
mircea_popescu	prolly, russia.	[20:13]
williamdunne	Russia too broke, no?	[20:13]
williamdunne	Maybe some Greek princes will emerge	[20:13]
mircea_popescu	when did that happen ?	[20:13]
trinque	they've got craploads of natural resources in their wallet aside from other things	[20:13]
trinque	broke how?	[20:13]
pete_dushenski	cazalla: the incentive is there is all, hard to tease out the psychology past that	[20:13]
mircea_popescu	the greeks have exactly zero incentive to do anything other than "housewife" and haven't, for ~2300 years now.	[20:13]
mircea_popescu	it's not changing./	[20:13]
pete_dushenski	cazalla: it also encourages more frequent posting and more in-depth research, so i'm not saying it's an unreasonable trade-off	[20:14]
williamdunne	trinque: Thought I'd read something about them not being willing to do so, can't find it now though so probably the effects of alcohol	[20:14]
mircea_popescu	spend persia's money, spend rome's money, spend turks money, spend british money, spend usian money, they will spend someone else's money.	[20:15]
pete_dushenski	cazalla: just that it's a function of 'inherently bad' incentive structures	[20:15]
trinque	williamdunne \| Maybe some Greek princes will emerge << how bout greek welfare queens?	[20:15]
trinque	wahaha	[20:15]
mircea_popescu	italians only woke up to the model a half millenium later, but basically doing the same.	[20:15]
williamdunne	trinque: How can that emerge? Already exists nope?	[20:15]
trinque	is joke comrade	[20:15]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: americans will be next... in like 3 centuries	[20:16]
mircea_popescu	Comrade Joke would be an excellent idea for a webcomic	[20:16]
mircea_popescu	set in a faux soviet russia very much like present day us	[20:16]
mircea_popescu	ends up in troubles.	[20:16]
trinque	heh I'd read that	[20:16]
mircea_popescu	me2.	[20:16]
mircea_popescu	there, stuff for people to do. lol.	[20:16]
mircea_popescu	the chan is REPLETE with shit to do.	[20:16]
pete_dushenski	ha!	[20:17]
pete_dushenski	just needs moar people ;)	[20:17]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski as an exercise for you : what is the difference between the disruption caused by the absence of the comrade joke webcomic, which nobody has started yet, and the disruption caused by the absence of x service, which equally doesn't exist but at some point did ?	[20:18]
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mircea_popescu	same thing, it'd seem. "our enemies", ie, sloth and stupidity, have disrupted our webcomic. LET US TAKE MEASURES!11	[20:18]
williamdunne	Can't miss what you don't know?	[20:18]
*	asciilifeform is rather perplexed. who, exactly, is lacking for 'what to do' ?	[20:18]
mircea_popescu	what measures could they be ? shift the active from this to that, therefore disrupting this now ?	[20:19]
asciilifeform	there is so much 'to do' that you could eat with arse!	[20:19]
mircea_popescu	williamdunne oh but i can.	[20:19]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform nonstandard stuff is nonstandard, disruption is disruption. the bitcoin (tmsr~) management model is simply difficult to grok	[20:19]
mircea_popescu	much like bitcoin finance is so slippery, even for the best financial minds.	[20:19]
mircea_popescu	they just break so irrationally with the past.	[20:20]
mircea_popescu	not unlike trying to approximate pi on the basis of fortran four.	[20:20]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: lol this break is exactly the point i'm making on my 'second crack' update	[20:20]
trinque	man I kinda like that... putting tasks which need done in terms of that which they deprive the republic	[20:20]
trinque	I suppose I'm sentimental	[20:20]
mircea_popescu	trinque just as a mental exercise.	[20:21]
mircea_popescu	to encourage people not to drive themselves mad.	[20:21]
pete_dushenski	http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/27/a-second-crack-at-that-scary-thing/ << aaaand updated.	[20:21]
assbot	A second crack at that scary thing. \| Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1GHJY0p )	[20:21]
mircea_popescu	i am kinda amused by pete's fundamentally tragic figure, btw.	[20:22]
mircea_popescu	he writes these posts in the full knowledge that they'll be like... "NONE OF YOUR DIGITS ARE RIGHT MATE!!!. it's not 4, it's 3. not .0 but .1. not .x0 but .x4. not .xx0 but .xx1. not .xxx0 but .xxx5. etc.	[20:23]
mircea_popescu	"your approximation of pi fails on every single point!111"	[20:24]
mircea_popescu	"i'm trying to do it with integers!"	[20:24]
mircea_popescu	"tough."	[20:24]
pete_dushenski	a poet is me.	[20:24]
pete_dushenski	one who enjoys making a public hash of things, just to let them breathe, then correct	[20:25]
pete_dushenski	it's how i learn, i guess.	[20:25]
pete_dushenski	hopefully others learning alongside !	[20:26]
trinque	yeah keep 'em coming	[20:26]
pete_dushenski	there has to be someone halfway up mt sinai, playing broken telephone between moses and the golden calf lovers.	[20:27]
pete_dushenski	"that's not what i said you idjit !" "oh, my bad, let me try again !" "that's a bit better !"	[20:28]
trinque	I wouldn't be a common lisp programmer by now if I hadn't aired a bunch of idiotic thoughts of my own on programming in public.	[20:29]
jurov	mircea_popescu: another 0.9.1 runs fine for months, only with "errors" : "Warning: This version is obsolete, upgrade required!"	[20:30]
jurov	not sure when they 'cated the warning	[20:30]
trinque	asciilifeform: had a thought earlier driving around re: your observation that there are lisps in many fields: a high water mark reached, then from which retreated.	[20:31]
pete_dushenski	trinque: gotta find the boundaries of the glass jar by ramming into it head-first	[20:31]
asciilifeform	jurov: i spoke of this earlier. it isn't a gavinsignal in the usual sense, but is produced by the crud where version numbers in incoming messages are averaged and compared	[20:32]
trinque	I recall someone making the point that there can be greater distance between men than men and animals	[20:32]
asciilifeform	jurov: it isn't in therealbitcoin	[20:32]
trinque	lisps must occur where there were men orders of magnitude better than their contemporaries, such that the contemporaries barely had any idea what they were doing there	[20:32]
cazalla	jurov, those warnings are the fucking things i've been getting every 2-3 weeks for months	[20:32]
trinque	so they continued on and eventually engulfed the subject in their own shit	[20:33]
trinque	that to me clearly points out the role of power in human life	[20:33]
trinque	to prevent that from happening.	[20:33]
asciilifeform	trinque: actually 'lisps' happen because the alternative would be a civilization that doesn't leak. and we don't have one of those to kick around	[20:33]
asciilifeform	just as the slipless ratchet does not exist (and physically cannot. see feynman's perpetuum mobile)	[20:33]
trinque	I don't follow "doesn't leak"	[20:33]
asciilifeform	i.e. forget things	[20:34]
asciilifeform	e.g., archimedes had basic integral calculus	[20:34]
asciilifeform	but then went away for a while.	[20:34]
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trinque	probably not enough people got it when it first appeared?	[20:35]
trinque	I recall some theory that this happened with the pyramids	[20:35]
asciilifeform	trinque: 'wanting' wasn't enough in the age of hand-copied text	[20:35]
trinque	there were earlier egyptians supposedly that knew how to make the things, then there were later egyptians that basically squatted on what was built before, having no idea how it got there	[20:35]
asciilifeform	trinque: the ~other~ egyptians (today's) have zero to do with the folks who built pyramids	[20:36]
pete_dushenski	alrighty, time to go run off all this ice cream i've been tragically eating. a la prochaine !	[20:36]
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trinque	asciilifeform: isn't this "leaking" more something like not having enough vessels to preserve it?	[20:36]
trinque	someone towering comes along and he knows how to do X; yet without enough others that understood him, it'd make sense that the knowledge ends up lost	[20:37]
asciilifeform	trinque is still thinking in his modern box where preserving things is easy, cheap, and something folks are generally fond of doing	[20:37]
trinque	perhaps	[20:38]
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trinque	the vessels I meant were human heads	[20:38]
trinque	I've heard it said that were the US to want to repeat Apollo, they'd have to practically start from scratch, as nearly everyone who had mastery over the processes used before are now dead	[20:40]
mircea_popescu	jurov lawl errors.	[20:40]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform i find the proposition that "version numbers" are any sort of program signal utterly retarded.	[20:41]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: write to gavin not me, l0l	[20:41]
mircea_popescu	it's basically an implementation of racism. the presuposition being that the color of the skin conveniently summarizes the abilities of the thing contained in that skin	[20:41]
mircea_popescu	trinque: actually 'lisps' happen because the alternative would be a civilization that doesn't leak. and we don't have one of those to kick around << amusingly enough, re the earlier dog discussion : dog cunt seals, for this reason.	[20:42]
mircea_popescu	i wonder what a civilisation of dogs would be like.	[20:43]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: vernor vinge's 'fire upon the deep' had just this	[20:43]
mircea_popescu	oh ?	[20:43]
asciilifeform	it was lulzy	[20:43]
asciilifeform	(had many lulz, not just this)	[20:43]
mircea_popescu	i am apparently unfamiliar with the sfs of your home world.	[20:43]
asciilifeform	that one's american	[20:44]
asciilifeform	ultra-famous.	[20:44]
asciilifeform	(and the ru translation is even better than original imho)	[20:45]
mircea_popescu	"The recognition that rewards can have counter-productive effects is based on a variety of studies," << it is strictly based on a felonious substitution. it is exactly like saying "sex can be unpleasant for women" on the basis of the sex we practice being very violent rape.	[20:48]
mircea_popescu	the shit the puritan us does for "rewards" is NOT the statu quo. it is just the retarded, intellectually bankrupt, morally offensive charicature of the world the usian puritans came up with.	[20:48]
asciilifeform	hey, engineering constraint. just like sex in afghan means 'with donkey'	[20:49]
asciilifeform	to 1st approx.	[20:49]
mircea_popescu	so no. rewards reward. being associated with the refuse of white civilisation does neither reduce to that, nor stand for it, nor is a basis of a conclusion. of course nobody sane or thinking wishes to be associated with the filth.	[20:49]
mircea_popescu	just like i wouldn't take a nobel on the basis that i do not wish to have the shiot they gave obama.	[20:49]
mircea_popescu	"oh, recognition has ocunter-productive effects". no. perelman rejected the recognition you were offering BECAUSE IT CAME FROM YOU	[20:50]
mircea_popescu	not "because it was recognition full stop".	[20:50]
mircea_popescu	and no, promises to pay from josh garza are not bitcoin	[20:50]
mircea_popescu	and no, the "opinions" of tim swanson are NOT opinions. because no wot. and so fucking on.	[20:50]
mircea_popescu	the source matters first and foremost. just like you cant have "a message" without first having the key to decrypt the asc with	[20:51]
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asciilifeform	http://a4lg.com/memo/2014-12-14/seccon-2014-online-quals-crypto400.html << student exercise	[21:28]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GHU4hY )	[21:28]
asciilifeform	(bad rsa key)	[21:28]
*	trinque hunkers down for more clim hacking	[21:29]
trinque	most fun I've had in years	[21:29]
trinque	re: writing code	[21:29]
asciilifeform	trinque: last time i played with clim under sbcl it was dog-slow	[21:29]
trinque	haven't torqued it hard enough to know yet	[21:29]
trinque	but the clarity	[21:29]
asciilifeform	i mean, even for 'hello world'	[21:29]
trinque	ah, no it's doing fine there	[21:29]
asciilifeform	trinque must be using a recent cpu..	[21:30]
trinque	lol yeah, doing fine with 3+ ghz and 8 cores	[21:30]
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mircea_popescu	actually it's quite possible the eventual b-a distribution is a sort of lisp "java machine"	[21:44]
mircea_popescu	ie, what google's trying to do.	[21:45]
mircea_popescu	in other news, women and incentives in tech. http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6uukgUutx1rayp8lo1_1280.jpg	[21:45]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: i wasted years on this. destructive dead end, because ibm pc is a turd	[21:45]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1JqDolh )	[21:45]
asciilifeform	i.e. the hardware can't be meaningfully abstracted over.	[21:46]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform so is seeking true love.	[21:46]
trinque	can't build a VM for some syslisp which is then implemented later as hardware?	[21:46]
asciilifeform	who doesn't believe me (and why should?) can go waste years himself. like the 'movitz' folks did	[21:46]
mircea_popescu	nah, universal lisp bytecode!	[21:47]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: straight to sbcl, where this is already a thing. plain computation works fine. it's when you get to i/o that you die	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	universal io !	[21:47]
asciilifeform	'lisp doesn't need i/o.' --my brother	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	if a lisp lisps in a ioless forest, has it still lisped ?	[21:48]
asciilifeform	(in point of fact, it doesn't even need an ALU... church numerals!!)	[21:48]
trinque	I'm just glad I figured out I needed to relearn programming at 28 rather than 58	[21:51]
trinque	asciilifeform: how should IO look? what to read?	[21:53]
asciilifeform	trinque: i/o in the very basic sense of talking to the framebuffer, nic, interrupt controller	[21:53]
asciilifeform	disk	[21:54]
asciilifeform	cpu cores	[21:54]
asciilifeform	(well, the smp control gizmo)	[21:54]
asciilifeform	etc.	[21:54]
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trinque	right, so on linux I could write some bits to /dev/fb0 ; what might I go read about regarding how that's done on... would genera be a good example?	[21:56]
asciilifeform	trinque: there are no examples.	[21:56]
trinque	ah ok	[21:56]
asciilifeform	trinque: have you read my 'bedrock' article ?	[21:56]
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asciilifeform	trinque: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=55	[21:57]
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assbot	Loper OS » You have made your bedrock, now lie in it. ... ( http://bit.ly/1GHYPYN )	[21:57]
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trinque	asciilifeform: yes I have, and grok the gist, I think	[21:58]
trinque	what would network IO look like if done on a system with proper bedrock abstractions from your view?	[21:58]
trinque	!up gabriel_laddel	[21:59]
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gabriel_laddel	ty	[21:59]
trinque	np, and hello	[21:59]
gabriel_laddel	so, for instance, think of the terminal you are now typing into. on a true dataflow box, it would simply be the end of a circuit (screen memory) directly linked to a circuit with the keyboard matrix decoder on the other end of it. you thus also lose the concept of ‘interrupts’ or ‘processes’. a dataflow box doesn’t need a scheduler, or an interrupt	[21:59]
gabriel_laddel	controller.	[21:59]
gabriel_laddel	-- http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1361	[21:59]
assbot	Loper OS » The Alert Reader. ... ( http://bit.ly/1GHZ9qt )	[21:59]
asciilifeform	trinque: for this one, symbolics lisp is not a bad example. the key being that ~nothing can happen~ short of the nic catching fire that would land you on any level of abstraction below lisp	[21:59]
asciilifeform	e.g., if a malformed packet appears, or connection breaks at any point in the process, or, or.	[22:00]
asciilifeform	gabriel_laddel has it. but in that article i was speaking of 'proper computer', not lispm.	[22:00]
trinque	gabriel_laddel: end of a circuit, so "circuit" is bedrock, or composed thereof?	[22:00]
asciilifeform	trinque: 'bedrock' for our purposes is that which if it malfunctions you physically throw it out.	[22:01]
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gabriel_laddel	asciilifeform: Right. I should have noted that this is an example of what "sane I/O" might look like.	[22:02]
trinque	what is the circuit? how do I write code which reads the current state of the terminal?	[22:02]
trinque	how do I shove bits into it?	[22:02]
asciilifeform	it is the only sane i/o. what we have now is chicken's cloaka, which pisses, shits, fucks, and lays eggs via same orifice (why not also eat with it?)	[22:03]
trinque	is there some data structure manifested in the lisp system which represents the state of the thing?	[22:03]
asciilifeform	trinque: code on dataflow processor controls switching matrix.	[22:03]
asciilifeform	how to represent it is up to the operator	[22:03]
asciilifeform	ultimately it is what your schoolteacher called an 'adjacency matrix.'	[22:03]
trinque	I could declare that the terminal circuit is now connected to (among other things) my circuit which logs terminal stuff?	[22:04]
trinque	and this declaration is...	[22:04]
asciilifeform	these presently exist, you can go to store and buy. called fpga.	[22:04]
trinque	a data structure somewhere read by the switching matrix?	[22:04]
asciilifeform	trinque: typically an ordinary sram	[22:04]
mircea_popescu	it does technicaly eat with it	[22:04]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: think of it, traditional cpu ~is~ cloaka, where you pgp with the same barrel shifter and adder that you play tetris and read lolcatz with	[22:05]
asciilifeform	this is not the only way to build a computer.	[22:06]
asciilifeform	in extreme poverty of the 1950s - yes, it makes sense	[22:06]
asciilifeform	barely made sense in '80s	[22:06]
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asciilifeform	(folks carrying around multiple pc notwithstanding)	[22:07]
asciilifeform	think of why msdos was a jewel - machine did ~one fucking thing~ at a time	[22:07]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform yeah. it DOES eat with it.	[22:08]
asciilifeform	approach has limitations, there are asynchronous things in the world (e.g., nic, disks)	[22:08]
trinque	hm, so is there some circuit which is responsible for the adjacency of other circuits?	[22:08]
asciilifeform	so you have multiple machines.	[22:08]
asciilifeform	like in your head	[22:08]
trinque	is this a distributed thing, whereby one circuit requests access to another?	[22:08]
asciilifeform	trinque: when you plant your arse in your chair, does arse 'request access to the chair' ?)	[22:08]
mircea_popescu	iut's not clear why disk would be async	[22:09]
trinque	asciilifeform: no, but sometimes there's a cat in it!	[22:09]
mircea_popescu	for that matter, disk is moving to be ram. and ram is sync.	[22:09]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: because you ask it for block b and some unknown time later it says 'here is block b'	[22:09]
trinque	ah!	[22:09]
mircea_popescu	no obvious need for this.	[22:09]
mircea_popescu	it can say "and this is block b perpetually anyway	[22:09]
asciilifeform	for so long as you have caches, you have locality	[22:09]
asciilifeform	which is to say, asking for b+1 will almost always be faster than b+100000	[22:10]
trinque	asciilifeform: so is it the synchronized nature of "modern" IO that is braindamaged?	[22:10]
trinque	I can see that point readily	[22:10]
trinque	I said this to ben_vulpes yesterday about HTTP request/response cycles	[22:10]
asciilifeform	trinque: the whole concept of having von neumann's bottleneck, where you can't do anything at all on the machine without waiting your turn for the little airline latrine of alu, mmu, etc. is asinine	[22:10]
mircea_popescu	refresh me. what in ulimit discusses the i/o ?	[22:10]
trinque	asciilifeform: so this circuit expresses a desire for the answer to some question, and some other circuit may or may not satisfy it	[22:11]
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gabriel_laddel	loper-os-reader: I always sort of thought that about CPU designs in general. whilst software designers say “how many cycles is this going to take?”, a hardware designer knows how many cycles something is going to take on a chip: one. or else	[22:11]
gabriel_laddel	stas: dataflow never caught on because you absolutely need dedicated hardware. if you want real efficiency, you can’t even use standard RAM. so it gets dismissed as nuttery, on the rare occasions it comes up.	[22:11]
asciilifeform	trinque: when you plug a lamp into mains socket, does it 'express desire to conduct' ?	[22:12]
mircea_popescu	is it -i (pending signals) ?	[22:12]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: what system are you on	[22:12]
trinque	asciilifeform: no, but water doesn't ever come out of the socket	[22:12]
mircea_popescu	centos	[22:12]
trinque	the routing is what I'm not clear on	[22:12]
trinque	who says this guy wants to know some facts and not others	[22:12]
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asciilifeform	trinque: move your abstraction level down to where the question makes sense	[22:13]
ben_vulpes	o hai gabriel_laddel!	[22:13]
asciilifeform	!s muller gate	[22:13]
assbot	6 results for 'muller gate' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=muller+gate	[22:13]
gabriel_laddel	ben_vulpes: hey!	[22:14]
ben_vulpes	the boys have been talking shit about your lispos	[22:14]
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ben_vulpes	gabriel_laddel: the boys have been talking shit about your lispos	[22:14]
ben_vulpes	!up ga	[22:15]
ben_vulpes	!up gabriel_laddel	[22:15]
*	assbot gives voice to gabriel_laddel	[22:15]
ben_vulpes	!up gavinadresen	[22:15]
gabriel_laddel	thanks. fucking useless AT&T connection	[22:15]
asciilifeform	trinque: http://www.fpga4fun.com/FPGAinfo2.html << intro to state of art re: programmable logic	[22:15]
assbot	fpga4fun.com - How FPGAs work ... ( http://bit.ly/1eR3CR8 )	[22:15]
gabriel_laddel	ben_vulpes: I saw that in the logs earlier. It doesn't really matter - they don't have any other options.	[22:15]
gabriel_laddel	ben_vulpes: they'll use what's there.	[22:16]
trinque	asciilifeform: ty	[22:16]
trinque	I'll read that and improve my question	[22:17]
ben_vulpes	gabriel_laddel: 'they' << your customers?	[22:17]
asciilifeform	trinque: i'd even argue that fpga is a mis-step historically, and you'd want to start with traditional 'gal' (as pictured here, http://design.iconnect007.media/index.php/article/31256/maxed-out-programmable-logic-part-deux/31259/?skin=design )	[22:17]
assbot	iconnect007 :: Article ... ( http://bit.ly/1eR3NMa )	[22:17]
asciilifeform	gabriel_laddel: the last time i met folks who 'they'll use what's there', they were running... winxp	[22:17]
gabriel_laddel	ben_vulpes: I was referring to #b-a members actually. I don't have any customers yet, as Masamune is horribly incomplete.	[22:18]
*	ben_vulpes does not have a horse in this race	[22:18]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24100 @ 0.00038665 = 9.3183 BTC [-] {2}	[22:18]
asciilifeform	gabriel_laddel: does your sbcl userland for linux come with a physical box where i get guarantee that the, e.g., video board, works ?	[22:19]
gabriel_laddel	asciilifeform: that is the idea - but currently - no.	[22:19]
trinque	given that I'm already using an absurd compromise (stumpwm+emacs) I'd take something which measurably improves what I'm doing there already	[22:19]
*	asciilifeform gave a good share of gabriel_laddel's material a fair, imho, reading, and still isn't entirely grasping how the proposed widget wins over classical linux box with sbcl on it	[22:20]
gabriel_laddel	asciilifeform: maxima, conkeror, CLIM as defaults	[22:20]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42500 @ 0.00038968 = 16.5614 BTC [+]	[22:20]
asciilifeform	why would i be concerned with defaults ?	[22:20]
gabriel_laddel	also, scaffolding for e.g., Pete's school	[22:20]
*	ben_vulpes to bar	[22:20]
gabriel_laddel	asciilifeform: because although you already know of these things, many people do not.	[22:21]
asciilifeform	gabriel_laddel aims to bring lisps to 'most people' ?!	[22:21]
*	asciilifeform head-desks	[22:21]
gabriel_laddel	heh, no	[22:21]
*	ben_vulpes resents leaving at top of computers + school conversation branch	[22:21]
gabriel_laddel	just for people in #b-a	[22:21]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: on my system, 'ulimit' only sets max file size...	[22:22]
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mircea_popescu	i have nfi what all this shit does.	[22:22]
asciilifeform	somebody buy poor fella a new modem	[22:22]
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ben_vulpes	i am interested in things like 'literate programming' in the context of mathematical education, essay writing etc	[22:39]
asciilifeform	ben_vulpes read knuth's work on subj ?	[22:39]
ben_vulpes	not yet!	[22:39]
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asciilifeform	ben_vulpes: absolute best example of 'literate programming' i know of is 'jonesforth' >> https://github.com/AlexandreAbreu/jonesforth/blob/master/jonesforth.S and https://github.com/AlexandreAbreu/jonesforth/blob/master/jonesforth.f	[22:44]
assbot	jonesforth/jonesforth.S at master · AlexandreAbreu/jonesforth · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1dpxFNT )	[22:44]
assbot	jonesforth/jonesforth.f at master · AlexandreAbreu/jonesforth · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1dpxFO3 )	[22:44]
asciilifeform	(not originally on shithub but only surviving copy)	[22:44]
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asciilifeform	in other news, i've a static therealbitcoin.	[23:07]
ben_vulpes	no wai	[23:07]
asciilifeform	aha.	[23:07]
asciilifeform	readelf -d bitcoind	[23:08]
asciilifeform	There is no dynamic section in this file.	[23:08]
ben_vulpes	i wonder how long it'll take to duplicate the feat.	[23:09]
asciilifeform	ben_vulpes: i'm about to zip up the whole build tree so folks can test quickly	[23:09]
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asciilifeform	one final test before i post it...	[23:13]
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asciilifeform	achtung, panzers!	[23:31]
asciilifeform	ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al:	[23:31]
asciilifeform	http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-June/000102.html	[23:31]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1LCjUdN )	[23:31]
asciilifeform	'(EXPERIMENTAL) Static Builder for TheRealBitcoin.'	[23:31]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9850 @ 0.00040015 = 3.9415 BTC [+]	[23:31]
asciilifeform	http://dpaste.com/3AKNWFV.txt << process map for this experiment	[23:33]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1LCjXGo )	[23:33]
asciilifeform	note that it is still using conventional glibc	[23:33]
decimation	asciilifeform: did you try ulibc	[23:33]
asciilifeform	(see the gconv-modules turd? fucking lamers)	[23:33]
asciilifeform	decimation: not yet. but i expect to hit the same wall as mod6	[23:33]
decimation	yeah.	[23:33]
asciilifeform	first trying to bring it all to where we originally wanted it	[23:34]
decimation	it's possible some combination of gcc/ulibc version will work	[23:34]
asciilifeform	and it appears that i did this.	[23:34]
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decimation	asciilifeform: so no dns?	[23:34]
asciilifeform	if mircea_popescu asks, this turd will be deployed to dulap (s.nsa box)	[23:34]
asciilifeform	no dns.	[23:34]
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asciilifeform	i'd prefer to get comments / replications of this experiment first	[23:35]
decimation	asciilifeform: is this for the pogo?	[23:35]
asciilifeform	no	[23:35]
asciilifeform	this is an amd64 build.	[23:35]
asciilifeform	i suppose i ought to have specified this in the readme	[23:35]
asciilifeform	but it ought to be clear from reading the build script	[23:35]
asciilifeform	this build is intended for ibmpc	[23:36]
asciilifeform	;;later tell mircea_popescu your node is dead ?	[23:37]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[23:37]
asciilifeform	wtf.	[23:37]
asciilifeform	(i'm getting a 'connection refused')	[23:38]
*	mircea_popescu looks into this.	[23:38]
mircea_popescu	did you ever test it ?	[23:38]
asciilifeform	just now.	[23:38]
asciilifeform	was gonna milk it	[23:38]
asciilifeform	i've been licking my teeth for this milking for ages	[23:38]
mircea_popescu	lol. apparently you're not the only one.	[23:39]
asciilifeform	stas@humanoid ~ $ telnet 188.68.240.167 8333	[23:39]
asciilifeform	Trying 188.68.240.167...	[23:39]
asciilifeform	telnet: connect to address 188.68.240.167: Connection refused	[23:39]
mircea_popescu	anyway. give it an hour.	[23:39]
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mircea_popescu	!up aseriousgogetta	[23:39]
-assbot-	You voiced aseriousgogetta for 30 minutes.	[23:39]
*	assbot gives voice to aseriousgogetta	[23:39]
aseriousgogetta	ty	[23:39]
mircea_popescu	aha. who're you ?	[23:40]
aseriousgogetta	what is thebitcoin.foundation?? i just found it.	[23:40]
mircea_popescu	the foundation directing bitcoin development etc.	[23:40]
aseriousgogetta	im a crypto-enthusiast	[23:40]
aseriousgogetta	why 0.5.3?	[23:41]
decimation	what is your favorite public key algo?	[23:41]
aseriousgogetta	favorite.. sha256d	[23:43]
mircea_popescu	!s 0.5.3	[23:43]
mircea_popescu	this has been discussed in teh logs.	[23:43]
decimation	aite	[23:44]
aseriousgogetta	my current work is on a personal project; setting up foundation. what is teh work in here?	[23:44]
assbot	204 results for '0.5.3' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=0.5.3	[23:44]
ben_vulpes	decrufting etc.	[23:44]
mircea_popescu	that didn't parse.	[23:45]
aseriousgogetta	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178572	[23:45]
aseriousgogetta	ty	[23:45]
assbot	Logged on 27-06-2015 02:16:03; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell ben_vulpes incidentally, were you explicitly setting -irc Find peers using internet relay chat (default: 0) flag ?	[23:45]
ben_vulpes	ah!	[23:45]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes nah, upon consideration that should have no effect.	[23:51]
aseriousgogetta	hmm, so 0.10.2 talk is out teh window	[23:54]
aseriousgogetta	or scrypt-n?	[23:54]
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asciilifeform	out teh window << no, in the latrine where they belong.	[23:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22857 @ 0.00039374 = 8.9997 BTC [-]	[23:54]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: let me know if you were able to build my 'stator.' and if you think it makes sense to sweat over a uclibc build for ibmpc, where everything ~else~ is sitting on glibc...	[23:54]
asciilifeform	(though i'd like to shoot that 'gconv-modules.cache' and 'locale-archive' crud in the head...)	[23:54]
ben_vulpes	no, I simply ran the thing.	[23:54]
asciilifeform	(see http://dpaste.com/3AKNWFV.txt )	[23:54]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1GEqYz3 )	[23:54]
asciilifeform	ben_vulpes: l0l	[23:54]
asciilifeform	it ran ?	[23:54]
ben_vulpes	not your most recent, no	[23:54]
asciilifeform	what was ben_vulpes referring to then	[23:54]
ben_vulpes	hang on distracted.	[23:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24500 @ 0.00039374 = 9.6466 BTC [-]	[23:54]
asciilifeform	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1178089 << note that it isn't 'the foundation one' until ben_vulpes and mod6 say it is	[23:54]
assbot	Logged on 26-06-2015 19:46:42; mircea_popescu: it is not the foundation one, which i am going to compile and run once the instructions come out.	[23:54]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform try nao ?	[23:56]
asciilifeform	but we have a buildable static(glibc) ibmpc build.	[23:56]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178572 << i am confus	[23:56]
assbot	Logged on 27-06-2015 02:16:03; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell ben_vulpes incidentally, were you explicitly setting -irc Find peers using internet relay chat (default: 0) flag ?	[23:56]
ben_vulpes	i did not use the -irc flag	[23:56]
asciilifeform	ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=27-06-2015#1178629	[23:56]
assbot	Logged on 27-06-2015 03:06:14; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178572 << this is ~not~ in 0.5.3. it had only '-noirc', default off.	[23:56]
ben_vulpes	right.	[23:56]
asciilifeform	idk why aseriousgogetta linked it	[23:56]
ben_vulpes	me neither	[23:56]
ben_vulpes	ultraconfused, had to remember why i hadn't responded to the ;;later	[23:56]
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ben_vulpes	(if i even had, etc)	[23:59]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: hangs after 'connected 188.68.240.167:8333'	[23:59]
asciilifeform	anybody else?	[23:59]
asciilifeform	'socket no message in first 60 seconds, 0 1'	[23:59]
*	ben_vulpes is drinking with trinqu, will be playing with blockchains later	[23:59]
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