Forum logs for 24 Nov 2017
| phf: | that's what i'm thinking :) | [00:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | compressed version always page width, allowing thus to produce a proper as-wide-as-days-to-date item. | [00:00] |
| phf: | hmm, i'm not groking the whole compressed version thing | [00:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | let's specify. | [00:01] |
| mircea_popescu: | you decide on an image to be displayed on search page, specifically. "i want it 1024 x 168 pixels". you separately produce a png, as wide as day count, and as tall as daycount * 168 / 1024 rounded. you fill that png with the proper lines, proportionally (so highest count day gets full line, all other days get proportional line). then you scale it down to 1024 x 168. you publish this scaled down item on the search page, and yo | [00:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | u use it as an anchor to the full size item. | [00:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | can keep all of these in a world-accessible directory which is purged say weekly. or whatever, "once a week of all items older than a week" like the pastes. | [00:04] |
| phf: | ah word | [00:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | sorta like what you already do with line debit per day. | [00:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | but, honestly, you might ALSO make that full width and use the same approach for it. | [00:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | as opposed to the current what is it. | [00:05] |
| phf: | right now it's tracking proportional message count per hour, so perhaps message count per minute, but then it's a 1440 pixels width | [00:09] |
| phf: | hmm, actually i don't think per minute is any indicator of anything. | [00:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | you just decide on a pixel count based on your design, and then you split the 24 * 3600 day into that many units | [00:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | you'll basically get a smoother curve than what you have now | [00:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | hm, this isn't very workable in fact, your log page is not fixed width is it. just flows. | [00:10] |
| BingoBoingo: | In other graphics https://i.imgur.com/y4Src5L.png | [00:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | wut is this inept crap | [00:12] |
| phf: | so right now we have exactly 2048 days of log (though that number makes me suspect maybe my day counter is broken somehow) | [00:15] |
| mircea_popescu: | o.O | [00:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | this calls for like a celebration or something. | [00:16] |
| mircea_popescu: | phf heathen doesn't even begin to describe it btw. fellow has not just the logger, but a pile of cogent stuff, say https://lab.whitequark.org/notes/2017-11-08/accessing-intel-ich-pch-gpios/ while at the same time managing to work for patent nonsense (quantum computer makers etc), retweeting alf's favourite isis and so on and so forth. | [00:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | one day i'll understand how this sense-nonsense alloying works. | [00:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | !!up gabriel_laddel | [00:36] |
| deedbot: | gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes. | [00:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | "Traditional gateware design with Verilog and VHDL is well known to be tedious and inefficient. M-Labs have developed Migen, a Python-based HDL and toolbox that addresses many of their issues and makes gateware design more productive. Built on Migen, MiSoC provides a high performance, flexible and lightweight solution to build system-on-chips for various applications." | [00:37] |
| gabriel_laddel: | http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-18-nov-2017#2365744 < "Are you employed? The courts are looking for lost wages in medmal cases" | [00:37] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-11-18 22:31 ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: what'd the lawyer say? | [00:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | a really ? finally moved to limit the tort nonsense via employment weird trick ? | [00:38] |
| gabriel_laddel: | After that call + several others failing to pick up, I gave up on the whole thing. If you lived out here, you'd not expect sanity from the court system, or any established entity tbh | [00:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | sux. | [00:40] |
| gabriel_laddel: | Finally figured out how to score meth tho. Tis the bomb diggity & works exactly as I noted here in the logs prior to finding it. | [00:41] |
| phf: | … | [00:46] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-24#1742784 << >> http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-01#1692210 ? | [00:54] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-11-24 04:35 phf: asciilifeform: ty, and another question, where was the code for that com1 to display thing that you had? | [00:54] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-08-01 18:53 asciilifeform: http://archive.is/OqECs for posterity. | [00:54] |
| phf: | ty | [00:54] |
| phf: | ~~0.90s operation on average | [00:57] |
| BingoBoingo: | <gabriel_laddel> http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-18-nov-2017#2365744 < "Are you employed? The courts are looking for lost wages in medmal cases" << You are supposed to answer "My wages are sin, I am loosing enjoyment from life from this suffering" | [00:57] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-11-18 22:31 ben_vulpes: gabriel_laddel: what'd the lawyer say? | [00:57] |
| BingoBoingo: | !!Up gabriel_laddel | [00:57] |
| deedbot: | gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes. | [00:57] |
| gabriel_laddel: | Brånemark spent almost 30 years fighting the scientific community for acceptance of osseointegration as a viable treatment. In Sweden he was often openly ridiculed at scientific conferences. | [00:57] |
| gabriel_laddel: | Every.Single.Time. | [00:57] |
| gabriel_laddel: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-24#1742839 < https://eshackleton.com/2014/03/16/forced-march-tablets/ | [01:00] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-11-24 05:46 phf: … | [01:00] |
| BingoBoingo: | gabriel_laddel: You know... forced marches are for consumables... Not for capital... | [01:03] |
| asciilifeform: | the q invites itself -- forced march to ~where~ | [01:03] |
| gabriel_laddel: | asciilifeform Lispm. | [01:03] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-01#1575702 << see also | [01:04] |
| a111: | Logged on 2016-12-01 18:19 asciilifeform: but quite destructive to folx who are doing equivalent of ~planning~ the march | [01:04] |
| BingoBoingo: | Is it in forced march distance? y/N | [01:04] |
| BingoBoingo: | In other news: "Kenwanna Randolph, a 24-year-old woman from Chicago, was traveling northbound on Illinois Avenue approaching Mill Street when she reported not seeing the officer’s emergency lights or hearing the siren. The front of Randolph’s Ford Fiesta struck the passenger side of the police car, causing major damage to both vehicles, police said. " | [01:05] |
| * asciilifeform | pictures prenatal biography, beginning with a 'hey ken, wanna...' | [01:07] |
| BingoBoingo: | lol | [01:07] |
| phf: | gabriel_laddel: i have a yoga mat, a strip of lsd, a supply of codeine and a medical insurance card i don't question their usefulness, i just think it's important to be able to discriminate, so as to apply each one of them appropriately | [01:08] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-30#1575188 << see also also , gabriel_laddel | [01:14] |
| a111: | Logged on 2016-11-30 23:38 asciilifeform: dopes that make the eater happier to do repetitive / dumb task, are death to programmer. | [01:14] |
| phf: | mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log-search-day-hist.png?q=gossipd http://btcbase.org/log-search-day-hist.png?q=ada+from:ascii http://btcbase.org/log-search-day-hist.png?q=phuctor http://btcbase.org/log-search-day-hist.png?q=dog | [01:18] |
| asciilifeform: | oh neato | [01:20] |
| phf: | these'll be disabled when i go to sleep in a few though | [01:20] |
| asciilifeform: | pheature req : dragon line | [01:21] |
| phf: | i don't know what that is, please link to relevant materials | [01:21] |
| asciilifeform: | the b-a split | [01:21] |
| phf: | also perhaps suggestions for choice of function | [01:22] |
| phf: | haha, k | [01:22] |
| gabriel_laddel: | While I'm here: At no point did I forget that I'd agreed to build the archiver - however I was banned from the place I'd arranged to host it on 3(!) separate occasions. | [01:24] |
| asciilifeform: | where ? | [01:24] |
| phf: | it might actually be cheaper to roll the operation into search, and then use an inline base64 img.. | [01:24] |
| gabriel_laddel: | Nor have I forgotten $ELSE. Simply overestimated own ability / underestimated the complete idiocy of surrounding populace | [01:24] |
| gabriel_laddel: | asciilifeform: https://embassynetwork.com/locations/embassysf/ | [01:25] |
| BingoBoingo: | gabriel_laddel: Have you considered leaving SF? | [01:26] |
| asciilifeform: | '... an experiment in creating a home built around purpose, intention, and exploration. We are 13 residents and we employ experimental, fluid use of space, sharing behaviors and the creation of new ways of being. Within our space we have short term guest spaces and during the day the space is used by writers, artists, hackers and film makers.' | [01:26] |
| gabriel_laddel: | BingoBoingo The INSTANT I have an option out, I'm gone. | [01:26] |
| * BingoBoingo | would suggest walking, but... | [01:26] |
| gabriel_laddel: | hahahaa | [01:27] |
| asciilifeform: | !!up gabriel_laddel | [01:27] |
| deedbot: | gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes. | [01:27] |
| BingoBoingo: | Now gabriel_laddel you do know that your forced march medicine is going to increase you dental expenses, yes? | [01:27] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: d00d still got 1 leg left, neh | [01:27] |
| asciilifeform: | legs aint the problem | [01:28] |
| BingoBoingo: | Head legs may be... | [01:28] |
| gabriel_laddel: | BingoBoingo I'm aware. | [01:28] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: i gotta nitpick, there is afaik no direct connection b/w meth and tooth decay. strictly in the temptation to 'hey i didnt sleep, why brush teeth..' | [01:29] |
| BingoBoingo: | From my encouters with those how have ended their forced marches while still vertical, mid 4 figure bezzel bucks is standard... or dentures | [01:29] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform: The connection is xerostymia, no salivary cleaning action goes on while meth'd | [01:30] |
| asciilifeform: | much of the physical pathology of meth and coke aficionados is from effect of eschewing sleep, rather than the actual substance | [01:30] |
| gabriel_laddel: | asciilifeform There is jaw clenching if you accidentally take too much | [01:30] |
| BingoBoingo: | From what I understand the aggravating factor is vasoconstriction to the mucosa | [01:30] |
| * asciilifeform | can picture | [01:31] |
| BingoBoingo: | <gabriel_laddel> asciilifeform There is jaw clenching if you accidentally take too much << What accidentally and too much? | [01:31] |
| gabriel_laddel: | Eg the other day it "didn't kick in", so I had another few mouthfuls of methwater, only to remember "oh fk, I have to have coffee or it won't work" | [01:33] |
| gabriel_laddel: | then -- BLAM. Tweaking. | [01:34] |
| gabriel_laddel: | (after coffee, ofc) | [01:34] |
| BingoBoingo: | WHy not orange juice? | [01:34] |
| BingoBoingo: | Or vaporize? | [01:35] |
| asciilifeform: | gabriel_laddel: what do you go to do, when 'kicks in' ? i thought your linux item, were done ? | [01:37] |
| asciilifeform: | and sold preinstalled on old lenovo lappys or what it was | [01:37] |
| phf: | revolution never sleeps | [01:38] |
| BingoBoingo: | Sure it does, sleep is when NYPD beat "Occupy" | [01:38] |
| gabriel_laddel: | asciilifeform: There is still plenty to do. CLIM's COM-FOO machinery has to be cut & replaced with "functions most often called on / FTYPE matches this as a valid ARG" | [01:39] |
| asciilifeform: | by hand?! | [01:39] |
| gabriel_laddel: | Oh god no | [01:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | phf o hey pretty cool. | [01:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | i was thinking they'd be horiz right under "x entries in y seconds" | [01:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | though 1s of churning seems excessive. | [01:41] |
| phf: | particular graph is x entries per day | [01:41] |
| phf: | from beginning of log to present day | [01:41] |
| phf: | horiz can be done | [01:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | yeah but you happy with that much cpu melt ? i mean, if you get a buncha concurrent searches... | [01:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-24#1742862 << amusingly, i have none of those. | [01:43] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-11-24 06:08 phf: gabriel_laddel: i have a yoga mat, a strip of lsd, a supply of codeine and a medical insurance card i don't question their usefulness, i just think it's important to be able to discriminate, so as to apply each one of them appropriately | [01:43] |
| phf: | well, i'm try-en to make a point here, i only really have a yoga mat.. | [01:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | i suppose i have a coupla girls that have yoga mats... | [01:45] |
| gabriel_laddel: | phf: the point being? Fwiw, I'm trying to forced march myself into some stable employment while crippled. | [01:45] |
| BingoBoingo: | gabriel_laddel: How's your spanish? | [01:51] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-24#1742890 << there is, there is. metamphetamine overdrives half the metabolic mechanism, not just the parts you notice. | [01:52] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-11-24 06:29 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i gotta nitpick, there is afaik no direct connection b/w meth and tooth decay. strictly in the temptation to 'hey i didnt sleep, why brush teeth..' | [01:52] |
| * BingoBoingo | can keep an eye out for openings for gabriel_laddel in Montevideo | [01:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | makes saliva way overpeptic, as a result mouth is no longer a balanced system | [01:53] |
| gabriel_laddel: | BingoBoingo: Nil. | [01:53] |
| BingoBoingo: | Mebbe pirate some pimsleur? | [01:53] |
| BingoBoingo: | get a hardware store gig? | [01:53] |
| mircea_popescu: | there's also the problems of grinding, and on it goes. | [01:54] |
| phf: | asciilifeform: added a dragon line, some other indicators might be worthwhile, like year markers.. | [01:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | and better colors. like blue/white or somesuych | [01:56] |
| phf: | well, yes :) | [01:56] |
| phf: | i still want to try a couple of different image spitting libraries. this one is particularly expensive, nor does it support palette, so adding colors increased its size by two | [01:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | by now we're far out on the edges of lisp-for-html-imagemagicks. | [01:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | so don't kill yourself over it if it knows no easy solution may be solved in x years, there's pressinger things. | [02:00] |
| phf: | aye | [02:10] |
| phf: | am not going to start writing image encoders from scratch | [02:11] |
| mircea_popescu: | aaand for the record, the correct way to set the entry message is : "/msg chanserv set #trilema entrymsg To speak in #trilema you must be voiced" etc. | [08:04] |
| deedbot: | http://trilema.com/2017/trilema-maintenance/ << Trilema - #trilema maintenance | [09:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | and speaking of ^, does http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/ need revising ? | [09:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | (also in campus rape culture, https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170905/843791a1948e114f6177aafb481d745e.gif ) | [09:16] |
| diana_coman: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-24#1742941 <- to my mind everything that is in there still stands as it is (assuming Qntra will be back soon) perhaps only on the study side but I'm not really sure it makes sense to give very precise items there anyway - who wants to study won't have problems finding what matters for TMSR at any given point anyway and who is not interested won't benefit from more specific items listed there | [10:03] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-11-24 14:14 mircea_popescu: and speaking of ^, does http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/ need revising ? | [10:03] |
| mircea_popescu: | myeah. | [10:53] |
| ben_vulpes: | http://www.wired.co.uk/article/painting-stolen-new-zealand-sale-gottfried-lindauer-chief-ngatai-raure | [12:52] |
| phf: | !#s test | [13:34] |
| a111: | 3129 results for "test", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=test | [13:34] |
| phf: | btcbase is going down for maintenance | [14:10] |
| phf: | … | [14:31] |
| phf: | ok, here's a more integrated PoC http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Amircea+god the image is being generated full scale, but then force by the browser to be 1000px wide. (fwiw, while still cheap, it is more expensive to resize it, than to spit out the whole thing) | [15:37] |
| phf: | mircea_popescu: ^ | [15:38] |
| phf: | i dropped it to ~~.6s and i'm not messing with it any further. about .3s of that is the search, so image generation and building of histogram is another .3s | [15:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | phf http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=mircea_popescu << lol | [16:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | pretty great new toy imo | [16:22] |
| phf: | so the bucket is made by running truncate against a certain divisor on the message timestamp in seconds. so playing with divisor gives me more/less coarse buckets | [16:24] |
| phf: | right now the bucket is basically 2 days (i.e. 2*24*60*60) | [16:25] |
| phf: | kind of affects the nature of data, but still preserves the general shape | [16:25] |
| phf: | i think the only worthwhile optimization left to do is roll the image generation into search.. because right now i'm doing double work, once for the search and once for the image. | [16:27] |
| phf: | (there can still be a linked separate endpoint that generates a standalone image, possibly at a lower coarseness, etc.) | [16:27] |
| phf: | the search, btw, cheats. it walks enough history to produce enough entries for current page+5 more pages, so searching for something like mircea_popescu is super fast, because you get 500 entries in less messages | [16:30] |
| phf: | that's the meaning of 500+, but it gets gradually expanded as you follow the pages, so the speed starts dropping. so the last page of mircea_popescu search (http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=mircea_popescu&page=512) takes 0.3s, which is maxint it takes to walk the whole history | [16:32] |
| phf: | the image generator though has to walk the whole history at once, requiring the same 0.3s at once | [16:33] |
| BingoBoingo: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-24#1742943 << Qntra will be online when ISP is. Arrive in Montevideo Dec 6th, interview lawyers for corp, apply for IP address block, and meet people while waiting for LACNIC... ??? ISP | [16:55] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-11-24 15:03 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-24#1742941 <- to my mind everything that is in there still stands as it is (assuming Qntra will be back soon) perhaps only on the study side but I'm not really sure it makes sense to give very precise items there anyway - who wants to study won't have problems finding what matters for TMSR at any given point anyway and who is not interested won't benefit from more specific items listed there | [16:55] |
| mod6: | I've updated the trb-howto guide to include 'curl' in the list of required binaries / packages Thanks to whaack for pointing out the glaring omission there. | [16:57] |
| BingoBoingo: | More on the countdown to Pol Pot https://identitydixie.com/2017/11/24/crush-the-urbanite-agrarian-identity/ | [17:00] |
| BingoBoingo: | "The urbanite will claim to be the true representative voice of America, but they are but a degenerated version of it. While we, the ruralites, are the true holders of our myriad cultures!" ... "Once we have achieved this strong base and brotherhood of agrarian identity, we can begin to push aspects of Agrarian Nationalism economically, socially, and politically." | [17:02] |
| mircea_popescu: | ahahaha wut. | [17:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | agrarian us ? whjat is this, a monsanto joek ? | [17:07] |
| BingoBoingo: | Nah, it's the other dreamers | [17:50] |
| BingoBoingo: | You know make America great again, as in Antebellum... | [17:50] |
| mircea_popescu: | ridoinculous | [18:22] |
| ben_vulpes: | !!up gabriel_laddel | [18:59] |
| deedbot: | gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes. | [18:59] |
| ben_vulpes: | here's a lolbow, emerge-webrsync barfs with a segfault on a nomultilib stage3 with "Fatal Python error: Failed to open /dev/urandom \n Segmentation fault" | [19:01] |
| ben_vulpes: | looks to be some python strange, using an older stage3 gives similar errors until i set the python profile to 2.7 | [19:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | do you have unapproved random in the box, citizen ? | [19:10] |
| ben_vulpes: | what do i look like, some sort of terrorist | [19:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | actually... | [19:17] |
| ben_vulpes: | you don't say! | [19:17] |
| ben_vulpes: | with the old stage3, emerge-webrsync downloads what it wants (i think), but then barfs at the end with "Failed to validate a sane /dev | [19:18] |
| ben_vulpes: | '/dev/null/' is not a device file | [19:18] |
| ben_vulpes: | o.O | [19:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | how the fuck not ?! | [19:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | that is EXACTLY what it is. | [19:19] |
| ben_vulpes: | i'm doing this inside a chroot, so i think maybe something isn't mounted correctly? i've tried it both the way that mod6 suggested to me (-o bind /dev $chroot/dev) and the way the gentoo installation handbook says (mount --rbind /dev dev/) | [19:21] |
| ben_vulpes: | !!up gabriel_laddel are you going to say something or just keep opening and closing the browser tab | [19:23] |
| deedbot: | gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes. | [19:23] |
| gabriel_laddel: | Battery died | [19:23] |
| gabriel_laddel: | Consider https://www.amazon.com/CISNO-Digital-Microscope-Endoscope-Magnifier/dp/B075H634MP/ref=sr_1_5 | [19:24] |
| gabriel_laddel: | 1000x magnification seems unrealistic - that being said: if I crush some product, take hundreds of images of each sample & use them as input into a neural network along with a 1-10 (bunk-absolute fire) rating y'think it'll get trained to recognize the real deal? | [19:24] |
| gabriel_laddel: | Anyone made use of these digital usb microscopes in any context & have thoughts? | [19:24] |
| ben_vulpes: | aah batteries | [19:24] |
| ben_vulpes: | gabriel_laddel: can you even identify real meth optically? | [19:24] |
| gabriel_laddel: | Humans cannot. N-ISO can co-crystalize along with it. But a NN? Idk | [19:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | nope. | [19:26] |
| ben_vulpes: | why not just get an assay kit? | [19:26] |
| gabriel_laddel: | I'm curious about the utility of microscopes. Don't really care about meth purity too much. | [19:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | currently people are effectually using nn for speeding up sample counts where mistakes are cheap | [19:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | ie robotized lab assays | [19:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | but we're talking cells here, or protein-stains. | [19:28] |
| trinque: | this is gonna be a rock bottom story for the ages. | [19:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | trinque you're just being negative, people solve really difficult problems when they also strap a ticking timebomb to their ass all the time | [19:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | in the movies. | [19:35] |
| gabriel_laddel: | Wait a minute. Pasteur separated racemates by hand -- so I should at least be able to tell "biker crank" (racemic meth) from "crystal" (d-meth) | [19:35] |
| mircea_popescu: | alternatively, marie c glowed in the dark. | [19:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | so you should be able to either filter meth by a succession of rapid wrist swipes or else shoot lasers out of your eyes. | [19:36] |
| gabriel_laddel: | #! the people in real life are the people from movies not the people from real life | [19:43] |
| gabriel_laddel: | http://btcbase.org/log/2015-08-28#1253912 | [19:44] |
| a111: | Logged on 2015-08-28 01:24 mircea_popescu: the people in life are people from movies, | [19:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | o.O | [19:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | i take it back, apparently teh meth works. | [19:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | !!up fromloper | [20:36] |
| deedbot: | fromloper voiced for 30 minutes. | [20:36] |
| fromloper: | hi everyone. I've heard that some people here are interested in Elbrus hardware, so I brought you this announcement: https://pp.userapi.com/c840421/v840421325/27721/jhAYzDMy5ms.jpg | [20:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | fromloper what's your relation to the item ? "something i found on the internet" ? or ? | [20:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | !#s "ineum.ru" | [20:37] |
| a111: | 0 results for "\"ineum.ru\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22ineum.ru%22 | [20:37] |
| fromloper: | basically that, I'm following Elbrus' PR | [20:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | i c | [20:38] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-25#1742991 << i had and threw that specific one, it is rubbish | [20:38] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-11-25 00:24 gabriel_laddel: Consider https://www.amazon.com/CISNO-Digital-Microscope-Endoscope-Magnifier/dp/B075H634MP/ref=sr_1_5 | [20:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | BingoBoingo shoot 'em an email see if they can deliver ? | [20:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform you mean it doesn't do 1kx ?!?! | [20:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | i though usb nullifies lens aberration through the power of unicode. | [20:39] |
| asciilifeform: | it shows mostly led glare lol | [20:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | lol | [20:39] |
| asciilifeform: | forget lens even. | [20:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | i am shocked. | [20:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | next you're gonna tell me ai isn't quite here yet and quantum computers not right around the corner, not to mention no 3d printed guns. | [20:39] |
| asciilifeform: | even 500buxor microscope,was sad | [20:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | only good high magn optic microscopes i ever saw were mirrored not lens. | [20:41] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-25#1743016 << ftr that's 13.2k usd at current exchange rate. for a box that 1) is about same as 1k usd opteron 2) other than cpu, is made of exactly same stuff | [20:41] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-11-25 01:37 fromloper: hi everyone. I've heard that some people here are interested in Elbrus hardware, so I brought you this announcement: https://pp.userapi.com/c840421/v840421325/27721/jhAYzDMy5ms.jpg | [20:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | digital particuarly good fit too, because usual problem with mirrors is "your head won't fit in F". but a ccd will. | [20:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform let's talk prices after. | [20:42] |
| asciilifeform: | after what ? | [20:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | after the guys even fucking answer. | [20:42] |
| asciilifeform: | also good | [20:43] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-25#1742996 << gabriel_laddel ever heard of melting point ? | [20:43] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-11-25 00:25 gabriel_laddel: Humans cannot. N-ISO can co-crystalize along with it. But a NN? Idk | [20:43] |
| asciilifeform: | i dun consider it sin to run away from grade school. but consider opening a book | [20:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | can you program a neural network to open books ? | [20:44] |
| asciilifeform: | only after lsd | [20:44] |
| asciilifeform: | !!up gabriel_laddel | [20:45] |
| deedbot: | gabriel_laddel voiced for 30 minutes. | [20:45] |
| gabriel_laddel: | Melting poing can't tell ISO from meth. MSM & other cuts can be acetone washed out. | [20:46] |
| asciilifeform: | gabriel_laddel: most of yer impurity is not the laevo- isomer but intermediate cruft | [20:46] |
| asciilifeform: | and i assume you already recrystallized ? | [20:48] |
| gabriel_laddel: | acetone wash doesn't lose any weight | [20:48] |
| gabriel_laddel: | anyways, I'm not worried about my own supply, just curious about microscopes is all | [20:48] |
| asciilifeform: | get a refractometer instead | [20:49] |
| asciilifeform: | unlike microscope it actually will do part of what you want. and costs almost nuffin. | [20:49] |
| gabriel_laddel: | Spiffy! Thanks. | [20:50] |
| asciilifeform: | and get from a big university's surplus warehouse. not from china. | [20:50] |
| asciilifeform: | !~google abbe refractometer | [20:50] |
| jhvh1: | asciilifeform: Abbe refractometer - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abbe_refractometer> Abbé refractometer: <http://www.refractometer.pl/Abbe-refractometer> ATAGO U.S.A.,Inc. - Products / Abbe Refractometers - refractometers ...: <http://www.atago.net/USA/products_abbe.php> | [20:50] |
| asciilifeform: | ^ subj. | [20:51] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-25#1742977 << having python > 2.7 is quite like having gcc5 around. | [20:55] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-11-25 00:08 ben_vulpes: looks to be some python strange, using an older stage3 gives similar errors until i set the python profile to 2.7 | [20:55] |
| asciilifeform: | it is nearly impossible to remove the tentacles | [20:56] |
| asciilifeform: | and it makes sane gentoo a difficult proposition . | [20:56] |
| asciilifeform: | don't keep python3 around, period. | [20:56] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-25#1742982 << this may be related to the insiduous poetterinization of udev | [20:57] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-11-25 00:18 ben_vulpes: with the old stage3, emerge-webrsync downloads what it wants (i think), but then barfs at the end with "Failed to validate a sane /dev | [20:57] |
| asciilifeform: | !#s udev | [20:58] |
| a111: | 24 results for "udev", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=udev | [20:58] |
| asciilifeform: | http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-04#1514410 << here and elsewhere. | [20:59] |
| a111: | Logged on 2016-08-04 13:17 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-04#1514253 << it was eaten by systemd. there is a (last i saw, working) clean fork, 'eudev'. and it looks like phf explains further down in the l0gz. | [20:59] |
| asciilifeform: | for some reason i thought i mentioned it in my gentoo recipe. | [20:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | a, did the original poettering disappear btw ? | [21:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | doing utterly 3rd tier "gnome asia summit", for the same money he could be entertaining in atlantic city. | [21:19] |
| asciilifeform: | nfi | [21:19] |
| asciilifeform: | but his 'work' is well-glued, with broken glass, more or less everywhere in post-2011 or so linuxdom | [21:20] |
| asciilifeform: | !#s emacs dbus | [21:20] |
| a111: | 27 results for "emacs dbus", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=emacs%20dbus | [21:20] |
| asciilifeform: | ^ for instance. | [21:20] |
| mircea_popescu: | https://thenewstack.io/unix-greatest-inspiration-behind-systemd/ "Lennart Poettering is one of those few extremely prolific and brilliant engineers who have literally changed the design of Linux-based operating systems." | [21:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | even the push pieces are 3rd hand | [21:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | that scene with shannon doherty "are you guys even trying anymore ?!?!" comes to mind. | [21:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | https://www.reddit.com/r/LinuxCirclejerk/comments/7errt4/im_lennart_poettering_ama/ << not even reddit can be bothered to care. | [21:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | (this, btw, is what reddit is like ON ITS OWN POWER, ie when conde nast isn't tripping up the fake account levers) | [21:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | (re link, the worthy quote, for they too lazy to dig, being "Poettering, as usual, is working on his own solutions and not complaining about the problem. He is working on bringing service management to the next level. He wants to make it easy so users can sandbox system service without necessarily isolating them completely from the host-ware. No need to pretend that a system service is a set of processes completely independen | [21:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | t from the host, which is what containers do. System services can still be part of the host and can still maybe see it but not necessarily access things." this'd then be the empire's gothic line. as the man observes himself, ""the concepts and logic behind it aren't really convincing".) | [21:29] |
| asciilifeform: | u/faded_filth << lol | [21:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | quite. | [21:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | and in other much belated lulz, http://hotchickswithdouchebags.com/blog/2016/12/the-shunning-of-the-trump-voter/ aka the winner of the trump butthurt competition | [21:37] |
| asciilifeform: | 'And that party will be awesome. It will contain real people. It will have cheese dip. And premium gouda. And tasty Hostess treats. Yes, even Chocodiles. And people with actual souls. People with consciousness. From Socrates to Billy Ocean. The collective progress of Humankind. Of which you are no longer a member. Sorry, toad pimple. You forever vanquished your right to lay claim to the progression narrative of the human race.' | [21:40] |
| asciilifeform: | delish. | [21:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | you know ? | [21:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | cheeze dip | [21:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | if i mention how i had slave-labour-made fresh crannberies sauce as well as yogurt chimichurri for the lamb over thxgiving (which we don't even actually celebrate) i'm just being an asshole rite. | [21:41] |
| mircea_popescu: | (yes, many people thought they voted for trump -- but some votes for trump actually mattered. this ain't teh ourdemocracy anymoar, bish!) | [21:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | i suppose in fairness the socrates claim to progressive narrative is the best part though. poor socrates. LAST fucking thing. | [21:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | ttps://kiwifarms.net/threads/psa-thanksgiving-is-not-for-black-people.36789/ << in other unexpected obviousness. | [23:13] |
| ben_vulpes: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-25#1743060 << i entirely agree, still working on making with which to crap down new root fsen without 2.7 and 5.* | [23:51] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-11-25 01:55 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-25#1742977 << having python > 2.7 is quite like having gcc5 around. | [23:51] |
| ben_vulpes: | without py > 2.7 i mean | [23:51] |
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