Forum logs for 23 Jul 2018

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in markov chainlulz, "About me [01:05]
mircea_popescu: We are the Pinay Tigresses which means that we are all pure Filipinas and are experienced Dommes living in Manila. We are into D/s not bs so we expect, no DEMAND, respect." [01:05]
spyked: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-22-jul-2018#2461732 <-- gah, sorry for the abstruseness. more explicitly: the bot goes through each line in http://www.loper-os.org/pub/ro_eng_expr.txt and if it finds one for which the query is a substr of the entry, it displays the definition. not very effective, it's intended as a very simple (<100 lines of code) demo for next trilemabot patch. but imho there's room for improving it even without adding google [06:18]
a111: Logged on 2018-07-22 16:52 hanbot: ah, okay. i misread as gt test run. [06:18]
spyked: translate support. [06:18]
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-22#1837150 <-- the trade-off for this property is that none of the outputs is guaranteed to be useful (let alone correct). whereas for human-curated db, answer (if found) at least makes some sense, even if not exactly what the user is looking for. [06:20]
a111: Logged on 2018-07-22 16:53 mircea_popescu: spykedbot well, the google translate approach is dubious at best, but at least ~it handles all inputs~. this is an important property. [06:20]
mircea_popescu: tru. [06:20]
spyked: to pop another arbitrary example: "taie frunza la caini" is directly translated as "cuts leaves to dogs". dunno if this makes any sense to native en speakers, but on the other hand "lazes about" or "is a neet" is immediately understood, especially in context. [06:22]
spyked: !S frunza la caini [06:22]
spyked: !S ro-en frunza la caini [06:22]
spykedbot: No entries found for frunza la caini. [06:22]
spyked: meh. yeah, spykedbot dict not very useful atm. [06:23]
spyked: !S frunza la ciini [06:23]
spyked: !S ro-en frunza la ciini [06:24]
spykedbot: a taia frunza la ciini, -- a sta cu miinile/ bratele incrucisate: to sit on one's hands [06:24]
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-22#1837152 <-- ohhh yeah, /me remembers the three days of ai megapiece. I'll put this in teh queue. even a simple heuristic, e.g. ranking entries by number of matching words and displaying the one with the highest score, would be better than current dumb search. seems like a good middle point between exact matching and "statistical learning". [06:28]
a111: Logged on 2018-07-22 16:54 mircea_popescu: nevertheless, fwih lisp is exactly ideal for this sort of tokenize-and-replace job. cuz ai and everything right ? [06:28]
mircea_popescu: spyked the "is a neet" thing suggests some merging with http://trilema.com/republican-thesaurus/ [06:29]
spyked: word. some republican terms/exprs oughta make perfect translations. [06:31]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-23#1837426 << aha, thing uses pre-natoization orthography ( not asciilifeform's doing, it is as i found it , as chronicled in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2211 and in l0gz ) [09:43]
a111: Logged on 2018-07-23 10:24 spykedbot: a taia frunza la ciini, -- a sta cu miinile/ bratele incrucisate: to sit on one's hands [09:43]
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heathen lulz, 158.69.54.79:8333 /therealbitcoin.org:0.7.0.1/ (70001) << wtf ? [10:07]
diana_coman: eulora server is happily compiling on proto-cuntoo with ave1's gnat+gcc all tests passed so far, LOC greatly reduced too, loads of shit cleaned away and discarded we are looking forward to move it to production, so any eta for cuntoo? [10:08]
asciilifeform: ( i'ma guess pete_dushenski ) [10:08]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: oh hey neato [10:08]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: iirc all that remains for trinque to do re cuntoo is to integrate ave1's gnat into portage and properly mirror the tarballs [10:08]
asciilifeform: but lessee what trinque says. [10:09]
diana_coman: asciilifeform, yep, will wait to see what trinque says [10:09]
* diana_coman is happy but still poking at eulora server on proto-cuntoo as it's almost suspiciously...working! [10:10]
trinque: diana_coman: glad to hear your success with it. what's left on my end is to smash the gentoo profile we're using into a single dir. you can find these at /usr/portage/profile , which weighs about 20mb iirc. [12:24]
trinque: the "profile" is a giant wad of optionality about global portage state. I think the right move to make the portage-tree genesis as small as possible is to select *one* thing from the optionality, and then re-introduce options atop that as we see fit (for arm support, for example) [12:25]
diana_coman: trinque, that sounds the right approach to me [12:53]
mircea_popescu: indeed. [14:50]
mircea_popescu: in other news, s.mg is definitely issuing warrants for trinque & ave1 [14:54]
mircea_popescu: aand meanwhile in chick farm news, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/D7aSZ/?raw=true [15:02]
asciilifeform: in other lulz, http://btcinfo.sdf.org/blog/bitcoin-knots-restored-as-the-default-upstream-ebuild.html << shinohai endorses prb... [17:46]
asciilifeform: ( for bonus lulz : luke_jr's variant . ) [17:47]
asciilifeform: !Q later tell shinohai really, prb?? [17:48]
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded. [17:48]
* asciilifeform mildly curious what the man has to say for himself, will give him coupla days before re-rating [17:50]
BingoBoingo: Serious WTF [17:59]
asciilifeform: a+++ trololol, eh. i'm almost surprised he didn't go with the shitforks, for extra spice. [18:00]
BingoBoingo: Well, going for a hash fork would be an obvious troll [18:02]
asciilifeform: iirc Funkenstein remains the unbeaten recordsman there ( operated, at least at 1 point, a shitfork based on cribbed trb ) [18:02]
BingoBoingo: Ah, the bonercoin [18:03]
asciilifeform: i fughet exactly what. iirc was something so monumentally braindamaged that nobody in his right mind would take seriously even as joke ( had, e.g. decaying coins ) [18:04]
asciilifeform: then again forkologists are generally harmless idjits ( in effect give away btc for phree ) , while prb purveyors actively aid & comfort the enemy [18:05]
trinque: thanks mircea_popescu glad to see it working out. [18:05]
mircea_popescu: teh herd of independent minds. [18:06]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where was that woodchipper trilema [18:08]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/the-herd-of-independent-minds-or-has-the-avantgarde-its-own-mass-culture/ ? [18:08]
asciilifeform: ah, found http://trilema.com/2013/the-story-of-pointless-and-witless/ << subj [18:09]
mircea_popescu: a [18:09]
mircea_popescu: as mr oover pointed out, http://trilema.com/2017/zuleika-dobson-or-an-proper-love-story/#selection-2881.666-2881.724 [18:11]
asciilifeform: in ru sphere great term for this type of 'independent', незалежная [Украина] , actual ukr word, but has taken on this specific flavour in erryday conv [18:13]
mircea_popescu: myeah. [18:16]
asciilifeform: will admit, the only psychiatric model that makes half a sense to asciilifeform , re subj, is 'i'ma put hand in woodchipper to spite mother, that'll show' etc [18:18]
mircea_popescu: seems suffiicent. [18:19]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/07/copyrasts-pushing-for-prosecutions-over-vote-outcome/ << Qntra - Copyrasts Pushing For Prosecutions Over Vote Outcome [19:01]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/07/uk-court-issues-no-sanctions-over-gross-violations-of-surveillance-law/ << Qntra - UK Court Issues No Sanctions Over Gross Violations Of Surveillance Law [21:54]
mod6: <+asciilifeform> in other lulz, http://btcinfo.sdf.org/blog/bitcoin-knots-restored-as-the-default-upstream-ebuild.html << shinohai endorses prb... << yeah, wtf is this all about. srsly now. [21:56]
deedbot: http://blog.esthlos.com/cl-keccak-2-week-progress-report/ << esthlos - cl-keccak 2 Week Progress Report [23:56]
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