Forum logs for 23 Aug 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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mod6 dang, so close. i've basically got a rel1.vpatch and a rel2.vpatch all set -- but I'm seeing one strange thing... after doing the one-shot patching of either: rel1.vpatch leaves an empty 'makefile.linux-mingw' and 'qtui.h', while rel2.vpatch leaves an empty 'irc.h' and 'irc.cpp'. [00:38]
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phf mod6: try running patch with -E ? [00:45]
mod6 yeah, just did. solves it. [00:45]
phf mod6: in fact if you read patch man page, you'll see that us stripping dates basically broke that functionality [00:46]
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mod6 oh the functionallity of "automatically pruning empty files" ? [01:03]
mircea_popescu in other news, http://trilema.com/2014/these-people-should-be-shot-basically/#comment-115108 [01:03]
assbot These people should be shot, basically. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MLfqT6 ) [01:03]
phf mod6: yes [01:04]
phf "Normally this option is unnecessary, since patch can exam- ine the time stamps on the header to determine whether a file should exist after patching." [01:05]
mod6 ah, thx phf [01:08]
mod6 now my sha256 manifests match from the original to the one-shot whole orchestra [01:09]
mod6 for rel1 & rel2 [01:10]
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mircea_popescu win. [01:16]
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mod6 This script is huge, but does quite a bit too. I'll post it and the resulting rel1.vpatch and rel2.vpatch here in a bit. [01:38]
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mod6 mircea_popescu asciilifeform ben_vulpes trinque & all: For your review. http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/orc.sh && http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/rel1.vpatch && http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/rel2.vpatch [01:51]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1DW3w5F ) [01:51]
assbot Error ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrVpAq ) [01:51]
assbot Error ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrVpAu ) [01:51]
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mod6 I dunno why it says error... links work for me. [01:52]
mod6 Anyway, here are the hashes for the rel1.vpatch & rel2.vpatch [01:52]
mod6 SHA256 (rel1.vpatch) = 717171ffffce57b7008968a4d8eb2a627f8fe45e4ed8eb15634fd1c1ddf868c5 [01:52]
mod6 SHA256 (rel2.vpatch) = b951c4a56a362e8f936b65531298a2dad9cb456e3b15118f26ca9f61e5b9a97f [01:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37000 @ 0.00072602 = 26.8627 BTC [+] [01:57]
mod6 Don't feel like it's a waste of time either to create your own method to generate these vpatches and see if we come out with the same resultant hash. [01:59]
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cazalla http://www.inquisitr.com/2359051/ashley-madison-suicide-man-on-hacked-list-kills-himself-as-users-try-to-remove-their-names-from-ashley-madison-leaked-list/ [02:07]
assbot Ashley Madison Suicide: Man On Hacked List Kills Himself As Users Try To Remove Their Names From Ashley Madison Leaked List ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrWvMC ) [02:07]
pete_dushenski 'as users try to remove their names' ?? [02:07]
pete_dushenski what is this, the right to be forgotten ? [02:08]
cazalla police officer no less! [02:08]
trinque I demand for this to never have happened at once! [02:08]
pete_dushenski justice has been served [02:08]
pete_dushenski trinque: sorta what political correctness is, in a nutshell, y'know [02:09]
pete_dushenski 'indians should've never sucked so badly that they literally shat their skirts when they first saw a gun' [02:10]
pete_dushenski 'so let's not bring that up' [02:10]
mats i dunno that guns were such an advantage against the white man. [02:10]
mats err, for the white man* [02:11]
trinque where'd the indians go then? [02:11]
mats state of the art -- muskets. [02:11]
mats smallpox, for one [02:11]
trinque actually, we do have to credit disease [02:11]
trinque yep [02:11]
pete_dushenski guns are nukes now, they do actually work in the battlefield [02:11]
pete_dushenski sure, disease was a thing, partly incidental, possibly intentional [02:12]
pete_dushenski aren't* [02:12]
trinque in either case, thinking one can persuade reality otherwise is a mental illness [02:13]
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pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248414 << solid d-fence [02:15]
assbot Logged on 22-08-2015 18:05:26; asciilifeform: in unrelated nyooz, tr0l0l0l, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1482&cpage=1#comment-17278 [02:15]
pete_dushenski if only taleb could handle such turds, he'd be here [02:15]
pete_dushenski alas, too aged is he [02:15]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248535 << guernicas too. [02:19]
assbot Logged on 22-08-2015 18:50:57; mircea_popescu: what part of doublethink you think got cancelled ? the man with two maja desnudas simply is twice as happy. [02:19]
pete_dushenski "oh hey look what i found in this shoebox!" [02:19]
pete_dushenski but speaking of goya, after the local art gallery was revamped a few years back, it finally snagged itself a goya exhibit, which was my first and only exposure to the spaniard's etchings [02:21]
pete_dushenski the man had an affinity for the gallows, to be sure, not unlike stan's really [02:22]
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ben_vulpes https://blog.conformal.com/why-your-team-sucks/ [02:24]
assbot Why Your Team Sucks | Conformal Systems, LLC. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Joq8aZ ) [02:24]
pete_dushenski answer: 'you' ? [02:24]
ben_vulpes disease wasn't intentional at all, some vast majority was wiped out by unrecorded initial explorers of the americas [02:24]
ben_vulpes see 1941 [02:25]
ben_vulpes er [02:25]
ben_vulpes 1491 [02:25]
ben_vulpes even more lulzy, pete_dushenski [02:25]
ben_vulpes basically, conformal's public thinger got hacked. [02:25]
ben_vulpes righteously. [02:25]
pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: ya, just scanned, reads exactly, and i do mean ~exactly~ like wp spam [02:25]
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pete_dushenski https://blog.conformal.com/why-your-team-sucks/#comment-715 [02:27]
assbot Why Your Team Sucks | Conformal Systems, LLC. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrYsbY ) [02:27]
pete_dushenski 'awaiting moderation' [02:28]
pete_dushenski jic : "I wasn’t always a fan of your blog but you guys are really picking up your game ! Way to go !!" [02:28]
ben_vulpes dem cookies [02:28]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00072735 = 9.6374 BTC [+] [02:31]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: regarding el gran teatro, have you been to a proper milonga yet? [02:31]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248583 << my ol' romanian grandfather taught me this one... "non est disputandum" ! [02:32]
assbot Logged on 22-08-2015 19:03:59; mircea_popescu: "de gustibus" ? [02:32]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes sure. [02:33]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248594 << there's always modigliani if you're in need of a cure for 'pieface' [02:33]
assbot Logged on 22-08-2015 19:09:30; mircea_popescu: anyway, upon consideration venus does have to some degree the sharp features of the ideal fox. at least moreso than all the piefaces everyone wants to paint for some reason [02:33]
mircea_popescu I demand for this to never have happened at once! << somehow reminds me of lweiss carroll [02:33]
pete_dushenski 'almond eyes' being amadeo's solution [02:34]
pete_dushenski 'i'm late, i'm late, i'm late for an important date!' [02:34]
pete_dushenski more 'red queen' i suppose [02:34]
pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2015/08/22/a-beautiful-mind/ [02:35]
assbot A Beautiful Mind | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrZ1Te ) [02:35]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i like the guy's thinking. "it's hard and i suck therefore whatevs." [02:36]
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mircea_popescu pete_dushenski goya is the definitive alf artist imo. [02:36]
pete_dushenski too true. [02:36]
pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2015/07/12/on-walmart/#footnote_2_4406 << 'queen of hearts' not 'red queen' [02:37]
assbot On Walmart. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrZdls ) [02:37]
mircea_popescu ahahaa conformal blog got hijacked ? [02:37]
mircea_popescu ahahahah lol modigliani. "o you don't like pieface ? try longface!" [02:38]
mircea_popescu fucking nuclear winter. [02:38]
pete_dushenski choices ! [02:39]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248602 << my parents have a rather convincing 'kandinsky' at their place [02:39]
assbot Logged on 22-08-2015 19:13:28; mircea_popescu: ely almost entirely on expert opinion concerning the quality of the art, that is to say, is the quality of the art being examined of the quality expected of a painting by the artist—in this case, Caravaggio. [02:39]
pete_dushenski apparently 'not real' but who the fuck knows [02:40]
pete_dushenski maybe time for 2nd, 3rd opinion [02:40]
pete_dushenski then again, they're not rothschilds so prolly doesn't much matter [02:45]
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mircea_popescu "Among intelligent Communists there is an underground legend to the effect that although the Russian government is obliged now to deal in lying propaganda, frame-up trials, and so forth, it is secretly recording the true facts and will publish them at some future time." << meta non-asshole stalinism! [03:58]
punkman lol [04:02]
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mats https://i.imgur.com/ktkwt5r.jpg [04:10]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ENk5f7 ) [04:10]
mats wapo decided to publish pics of master keys to approved tsa luggage locks [04:11]
mats win [04:11]
mats nao to acquire bump set [04:11]
trinque this "TSA-approved lock" is a thing? [04:12]
trinque ah I guess the alternative is having them cut your lock off, lol [04:13]
mats yes [04:14]
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mircea_popescu mechanical locks ?! [04:33]
mircea_popescu this is like windows antivirus already. [04:33]
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mircea_popescu !rated wences [06:20]
assbot wences is not registered in WoT. [06:20]
mircea_popescu mkay. [06:20]
cazalla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1245663 <<< any value in the opposite.. say +1 if such and such individual shows up? [06:27]
assbot Logged on 20-08-2015 19:53:20; trinque: felipelalli: 'twas above that one, BingoBoingo made a deed in which he promised to rate certain individuals -10 should they ever appear in the WoT [06:27]
mircea_popescu but same. [06:27]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 64500 @ 0.00071907 = 46.38 BTC [+] {4} [06:43]
punkman https://twitter.com/nihilist_arbys [06:53]
assbot Nihilist Arby's (@nihilist_arbys) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1JdpfFb ) [06:53]
punkman "10am:Traffic is terrible. You're running out of gin. The girl in the trunk won't stop screaming. She'll be dead soon. So will you. Eat arbys" [06:55]
punkman "Draw the blinds. shut out the sun. Cry. The pile of meat has been on the table for weeks. Just eat it & go back to bed. Arbys: edible." [06:59]
punkman "Why not wash down that regrettable semen-of-the-coke-dealer taste in your mouth with a little Arbys? Arbys: no one here cares what you do." [07:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.00073127 = 7.8977 BTC [+] [07:01]
punkman "Here's a little late night inspiration: you're ugly, your one night stand will notice your fat rolls and you'll die alone. Arbys: remorse" [07:01]
punkman "The only way out of this nightmare is the sweet release of death, so fuck it. have another sandwich, fatty. Arbys: to your nadir and beyond" [07:02]
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mircea_popescu ;;tslb [09:26]
gribble Time since last block: 37 minutes and 38 seconds [09:26]
mircea_popescu herp. [09:26]
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mircea_popescu !up hazirafel100 [09:34]
-assbot- You voiced hazirafel100 for 30 minutes. [09:35]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19628 @ 0.0007385 = 14.4953 BTC [+] [09:35]
mircea_popescu here's some more stuff that "never happened" : https://bitbet.us/bet/1191/the-hearn-gavin-scamcoin-will-fizzle-in-2016/ [09:36]
assbot BitBet - The Hearn-Gavin scamcoin will fizzle in 2016 :: 100.09 B (100%) on Yes, 0.01 B (0%) on No | closing in 10 months 1 week| weight: 99`986 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1JoYZVq ) [09:36]
mircea_popescu if anyone wants to donate some btc... [09:36]
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mircea_popescu !up smoots [10:15]
-assbot- You voiced smoots for 30 minutes. [10:15]
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smoots hello, Phuctor is returning a 500 Internal Server Error when submitting a new key [10:15]
mircea_popescu usually happens when it eats up all the memory doing long number manipulation. give it a few hours and try again [10:16]
smoots okay, thank you! [10:16]
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wyrdmantis http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=19-08-2015#1244364 asciilifeform can you explain me why this is relevant? i person i know has told me that L2 chache is irrelevant because "the working set of memory pages veryfing ECDSA signatures is extremely small and takes places also in L1” I don’t have counter-arguments with him because this is not my field but… i trust your opinion more. Also he says that the use of ssd make [12:10]
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thestringpuller https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoinxt/comments/3i2yvf/xtnodescom_request_for_ddos_protected_hosting/ << lol [13:08]
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mod6 my rotor+TEST2 has fully sync'd on gentoo. (3rd full sync with -verifyall) [14:34]
thestringpuller congrats mod6 [14:38]
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mats https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoSF4ZoDuRI [16:25]
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mats https://github.com/gtaylormb/opl3_fpga [16:27]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell wyrdmantis ssd is irrelevant in the discussion. "memory pages" is also irrelevant i nthe discussion. apparently it's not that person's field either. [17:09]
gribble The operation succeeded. [17:09]
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mircea_popescu danielpbarron http://i.imgur.com/TlfulMF.jpg << apparently #b-a is ALL women. [17:16]
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mats lol wtf [17:20]
mats 'Battle for blocksize' [17:21]
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mircea_popescu i dunno. [17:22]
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danielpbarron take it the guy with the weird glasses is gavin, and the girl with the breastplate is supposed to be hanbot? [17:24]
davout danielpbarron: guy with glasses looks like jean reno [17:25]
danielpbarron i don't know who that is, but it looks like gavin's twitter pic [17:25]
davout that too [17:25]
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danielpbarron some steampunk thing [17:26]
danielpbarron who is the lion? MP? [17:26]
mircea_popescu but hanbot's not cali-blonde [17:27]
mircea_popescu in other lulz, https://archive.is/1oGss [17:28]
assbot newest submissions : bitcoinxt ... ( http://bit.ly/1I5y1kE ) [17:28]
hanbot take it the guy with the weird glasses is gavin, and the girl with the breastplate is supposed to be hanbot? << moar like scoopbot, by the looks of those hands. [17:32]
mircea_popescu hands r hard mmkay ? [17:32]
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ag3nt_zer0 Hi all, blessed Sunday! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt856_nRxQk [17:47]
assbot Tomahawk - God Hates a Coward - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1MHmE8X ) [17:47]
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mod6 the fox in the red says "here's where we're going to tie you to a chair and dunk you in the river." [17:49]
mats furries... [17:49]
mod6 the chick with 3 fingers thinks its a good idea. and gavin says "hey, you can't do that!" to the lion. the lion says, "we WILL do that." [17:51]
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mircea_popescu https://bitbet.us/bet/1188/dow-jones-industrial-average-dji-to-drop-below/ holy shit check that out [17:52]
assbot BitBet - Dow Jones Industrial Average (^DJI) to drop below 14,000 before 18th September :: 1.44 B (18%) on Yes, 6.4 B (82%) on No | closing in 2 weeks 1 day| weight: 63`773 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1I5ArQc ) [17:52]
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mod6 still a ways to go there... or maybe a bet on QE4 [17:53]
mod6 closed @ 16`459 on friday. [17:54]
mircea_popescu nuts that a 30% drop is priced at 18% . [17:54]
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mats gpg requires a private key to do signature verification [18:04]
mats this doesn't seem to make any sense from a pure crypto standpoint [18:04]
mats fffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuu [18:04]
mircea_popescu does not. [18:05]
mircea_popescu it requirues the pubkey. [18:05]
mats all the libraries i've read require a private subkey [18:05]
mircea_popescu wut ?! [18:06]
davout mats: prolly because it relies on you having a keyring to which it associates trust levels for private keys [18:06]
mircea_popescu oh oh oh ."a". [18:06]
mircea_popescu they're "nobody would ever want" level implementation. [18:06]
mircea_popescu they assume it's ok to "require networking" because it makes X thing easier and "who would ever want to run without networking" [18:07]
mats welp, time to smash a keyboard out back [18:09]
mats so much for demeter's law [18:10]
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mircea_popescu "public education" and "we should encourage more people to get into high paying tech jobs". [18:11]
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davout mats: just tried it [18:16]
davout with a keyring, but no private key at all, gpg reports signature correctness and short ID [18:17]
davout also required me to import the relevant public key into the key ring [18:17]
mircea_popescu http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/909/051/6d2.jpg [18:21]
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mats i haven't seen any python libraries that enable this behavior without shelling out to the binary (or maybe i'm retarded, i dunno) [18:21]
mats i am very hesitant to code sig verification in a standalone context but this seems to be the best play here... [18:22]
mircea_popescu gotta start somewhere. [18:23]
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mircea_popescu "Some time back altcoins were thought to be potential challengers to BTC. But as time went on we realised that BTC was never going to be removed from the throne. [18:27]
mircea_popescu I see the current block size debate in similar fashion. It seems almost inevitable that we will get bigger blocks (probably with XT) because the alternatives will not work well enough, soon enough." [18:27]
mircea_popescu historically, X never happened. I believe X will happen now, because I think so. [18:27]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249671 << there are none. [18:34]
assbot Logged on 23-08-2015 21:19:55; mats: i haven't seen any python libraries that enable this behavior without shelling out to the binary (or maybe i'm retarded, i dunno) [18:34]
asciilifeform mats: to the point, there are ~NO~ usable reimplementations of gpg presently. [18:34]
asciilifeform not one. [18:34]
asciilifeform (the one pushed by the netbsd folks, notably, calls out to... openssl!!111!!!) [18:35]
mircea_popescu pretty amusing how on some basic demographics, all the various groups doing various "better bitcoins" come out drastically in support of bitcoin-xt. it'd seem the people who agree bitcoin needs "improvement" is 80% the people who already agreed with this, unsuccessfully. [18:35]
mircea_popescu nxt-ers and ripplers and what have you. [18:36]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: their logic, to the extent there is any, is approximately 'nothing grows till the oak hits the ground' [18:36]
asciilifeform 'if bitcoin dies, our shitcoinz could have a chance!' [18:36]
mircea_popescu if anyone's bored, here's a simple job : take all reddit accounts > 1 year old that are in favour of xt, count the ones who weren't also active in some other historically failed fork attempt. [18:36]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform mebbe. [18:36]
mircea_popescu certainly the two major groups that stand to win from harming bitcoin are govt shills and the idiots they cater to. [18:37]
* asciilifeform bbl [18:38]
fluffypony mircea_popescu you want to hear a funny story [18:39]
mircea_popescu sure. [18:39]
fluffypony I've been fairly vocal in denouncing -XT and the whole way Hearn-ia and Gavin have been pushing their agenda [18:39]
mircea_popescu aha. [18:39]
fluffypony so the Redditards have taken to telling me that I don't support XT because it's in my interest for Bitcoin to fail [18:39]
fluffypony damned if you do, damned if you don't [18:40]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform which reminds me, apparently monero does just fine with the oak. somehow. [18:40]
mircea_popescu fluffypony heh. [18:40]
mircea_popescu yes, but there's a difference between statistics and redditart say-so. [18:40]
mircea_popescu do teh count, see. [18:40]
fluffypony yep [18:40]
mircea_popescu redditart lol. [18:40]
mircea_popescu sadly, no womenz to be had, but anyway. [18:41]
mats 17:32:27 <+asciilifeform> ... << there are none. << i appreciate the confirmation [18:43]
mircea_popescu point was agreed to before i think. which is how the discussion re what pgp implementation must be like got started. [18:44]
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mircea_popescu incidentally : the only thing this faux controversy has actually shown, is that the antiquated model of governance inherited by the power rangers from satoshi plainly does not work. [18:51]
mircea_popescu #bitcoin-assets weathered it fine. the bitcoin foundation mailing list weathered it fine. the old mailing list is practically dead for any useful purpose. [18:51]
mircea_popescu theymos tried to salvage reddit through doing what he wouldn't do to save bitcointalk three years ago ; this failed to work, reddit-bitcoin shattered. [18:52]
mats asciilifeform: it seems 'asignify' does not link openssl [18:52]
mircea_popescu leaving probably r/buttcoin as the schellign point, which honestly... [18:52]
mircea_popescu best thing ever. let them have the retard mass that success brings in. socialism deserves its fruits [18:53]
mats hafta read all of it, brb... [18:53]
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mats asciilifeform: 'signify' does not appear to link openssl either... am i missing something or wut? [19:14]
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mircea_popescu if that dow opens under 15k tomorro... [19:20]
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mircea_popescu bitbet got linked on reddit, so now https://bitbet.us/bet/1191/the-hearn-gavin-scamcoin-will-fizzle-in-2016/#c4992 [19:29]
assbot BitBet - The Hearn-Gavin scamcoin will fizzle in 2016 :: 100.09 B (99%) on Yes, 1.01 B (1%) on No | closing in 10 months 1 week| weight: 99`855 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1hUaTkm ) [19:29]
mircea_popescu really, reddit as a concentration camp for shitheads is not nearly going far enough. [19:30]
mircea_popescu there must be active extermination, not just, "get them fat and shut in". [19:30]
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funkenstein_ i loled at "rebbit" in logs (amphibitards? psheepers?) [19:39]
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mats asciilifeform: https://github.com/aperezdc/signify << am reading this [20:06]
assbot aperezdc/signify · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1PtSnto ) [20:06]
mod6 funkenstein_: 0.4.3? [20:14]
funkenstein_ er 5.3 sorry [20:14]
mod6 ah [20:14]
funkenstein_ No manual entry for vdiff [20:16]
funkenstein_ Hi Vexual. I saw a massive black bear today chillin' on side of the road [20:16]
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BingoBoingo Typical redditor https://archive.is/vikBy [20:41]
assbot TIFU by checking my body for ticks [NSFW] : tifu ... ( http://bit.ly/1fAlgrI ) [20:41]
mats http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/29860467/2-men-arrested-with-several-guns-near-pokemon-world-championship [20:43]
assbot Boston Police arrest 2 men Shotgun, AR15 at Pokemon Championship - Boston News, Weather, Sports | FOX 25 | MyFoxBoston ... ( http://bit.ly/1fAlkYz ) [20:43]
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mats asciilifeform: just realized it does not use rsa. derp. [20:51]
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mircea_popescu ;;ud tifu [21:16]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=TIFU | Today on reddit I read the funniest story in the TIFU category. ... She was jackin me off so i put it into her tits and BAM, im the Master of TiFu. by Coffee Cakes ... [21:16]
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scoopbutt http://qntra.net/2015/08/bitbet-prediction-market-opens-xtcoin-bet-pool-already-over-100-btc/ [21:25]
assbot BitBet Prediction Market Opens XTCoin Bet, Pool already over 100 BTC | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1EdS9GG ) [21:25]
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oglafbot http://oglaf.com/ladder1/ [21:26]
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mircea_popescu http://media.oglaf.com/comic/troubadour.jpg [21:33]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00073915 = 14.8569 BTC [+] {2} [21:39]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [21:41]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 227.83, vol: 12821.19459220 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 222.5, vol: 5693.48864 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 227.3, vol: 12192.34608695 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 226.465636, vol: 20219.28970000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 228.13041, vol: 50.16277788 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 231.93625, vol: 57.44174782 | Volume-weighted last average: 226.573115073 [21:41]
asciilifeform mats: i was wondering how long it would take you to notice! [21:42]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249741 << the small arms in the photo are in their factory boxes... borrowed for this cheapo psyop ? [21:44]
assbot Logged on 23-08-2015 23:41:09; mats: http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/29860467/2-men-arrested-with-several-guns-near-pokemon-world-championship [21:44]
asciilifeform from a store? and on condition of 'keep in original box' ?!! [21:44]
BingoBoingo ;;more [21:45]
gribble Error: That's all, there is no more. [21:45]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market Buttfinex [21:46]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 226.75, Best ask: 227.18, Bid-ask spread: 0.43000, Last trade: 226.75, 24 hour volume: 12192.34608695, 24 hour low: 225.58, 24 hour high: 232.88, 24 hour vwap: None [21:46]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249705 << i find it interesting that there is ~exactly one~ actual, working implementation of pgp [21:46]
assbot Logged on 23-08-2015 21:42:47; mircea_popescu: point was agreed to before i think. which is how the discussion re what pgp implementation must be like got started. [21:46]
asciilifeform (and anyone who thinks i ought to be considering a thing that uses openssl, or a winblowz turd, or something for mac, -- go eat a caltrop.) [21:47]
mircea_popescu which one do you call that ? [21:48]
asciilifeform the garden-variety gpg is closest i know of [21:49]
mircea_popescu ah, not for what he's trying to do [21:49]
asciilifeform even for sigverify! [21:49]
asciilifeform there is nothing to use but classical gpg [21:50]
asciilifeform go, look. [21:50]
asciilifeform ;;later tell mod6 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249381 << this is a potentially catastrophic misuse of the thing. if you glom the patches together, i can't sigverify'em, can't (easily) match them against earlier publications of same, and most of all - can't read it worth a damn [21:50]
gribble The operation succeeded. [21:50]
assbot Logged on 23-08-2015 04:49:18; mod6: mircea_popescu asciilifeform ben_vulpes trinque & all: For your review. http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/orc.sh && http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/rel1.vpatch && http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/rel2.vpatch [21:50]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249395 << wat the everloving fuck [21:51]
assbot Logged on 23-08-2015 05:05:26; assbot: Ashley Madison Suicide: Man On Hacked List Kills Himself As Users Try To Remove Their Names From Ashley Madison Leaked List ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrWvMC ) [21:51]
asciilifeform 'remove' ?!! [21:52]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249303 << this got lost in the chaos; quite lulzy! approximatly, a country-sized version of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-08-2015#1248932 [22:04]
assbot Logged on 23-08-2015 00:03:48; punkman: http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/arts/culture/la-et-cm-bernini-criminal-complaint-slovakia-20150803-story.html [22:04]
assbot Logged on 22-08-2015 21:23:49; mircea_popescu: there isn't a way for peasant to OWN picasso [22:04]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249319 << as in ru mega-proverb, 'one with a plow and seven with spoons' [22:05]
assbot Logged on 23-08-2015 00:32:28; mircea_popescu: punkman yes of course. just as soon as there's observable value everywhere a horde of shitheads with spoons are moving towards it. [22:05]
mircea_popescu nonsense. [22:06]
asciilifeform ? [22:06]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: please consider taking the thing in http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249328 + http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249335 and specifying a little more in detail. because i am utterly failing to grasp what was being sought here. [22:10]
assbot Logged on 23-08-2015 00:42:58; mircea_popescu: incidentally asciilifeform and whoever else is privately thinking of reimplementing pgp : one thing i'd dearly love would be the ability to encrypt not to X, but to "l1". [22:10]
assbot Logged on 23-08-2015 00:45:53; mircea_popescu: multiple UNSPECIFIED recipients. [22:10]
mircea_popescu yeah, im thinking about it. [22:11]
mod6 asciilifeform: i can put up the individual .vpatch files for you to review tomorrow. [22:11]
mircea_popescu and the nonsense says that both the theoretical position you seek to defend is rubbish, and that the la times article you seek to defend it with is both rubbish and wouldn't defend it even if it weren't, and the it were defensible. [22:12]
asciilifeform mod6: works. but anyone can review these, because we already know what they must look like [22:12]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: my thought was actually that it was illustrative of the idea you explained - that random beggar can't own a 'promissory n0te' [22:12]
asciilifeform the slovak ministry of whateverthefuck was playing the role of the 'garage sale picasso buyer and reseller for $100' [22:13]
asciilifeform unless i catastrophically misread. [22:14]
mircea_popescu mno. [22:14]
mircea_popescu the slovaks are incompetent fuckwits. this, because there's so few of them it's cheaper to pretend like they're a country than to seek someone else's administration. [22:15]
mircea_popescu this resultd in their selling an item for less than it was worth. because they had no idea what it was worth. becxause it's not theirs - they merely inherited it. [22:15]
mircea_popescu from something that used to be a world power and a major empire. [22:15]
asciilifeform orc sop [22:15]
mircea_popescu so they got butthurt, and are prosecuting a local that was involved in their rape, they think. [22:15]
* asciilifeform is familiar with the basic pattern [22:17]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249349 << ben_vulpes is back to mechanical world ?! [22:18]
assbot Logged on 23-08-2015 01:16:09; ben_vulpes: solve my system of equations goddamnit don't try to intuit what i mean [22:18]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-08-2015#1249563 << congrats mod6! [22:19]
assbot Logged on 23-08-2015 17:32:45; mod6: my rotor+TEST2 has fully sync'd on gentoo. (3rd full sync with -verifyall) [22:19]
asciilifeform in other nyooz, [22:20]
asciilifeform ~~97~~ connections on dulap [22:20]
asciilifeform 67 on zoolag. [22:20]
asciilifeform dafuq ? [22:20]
asciilifeform aaaaaand ... [22:22]
asciilifeform 33 of the 97 are..... [22:22]
asciilifeform 'amazon ec2' boxes. [22:22]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu ^ [22:23]
asciilifeform of the 67, [22:23]
asciilifeform 16 'ec2'. [22:23]
asciilifeform shouldn't those folks be hanging out with their own kind ? [22:24]
mircea_popescu prolly xt nodes lol [22:27]
* asciilifeform tested handful, and they appear to be [22:28]
asciilifeform notably, unconnectable-to [22:29]
asciilifeform (the five or so i tried) [22:29]
asciilifeform ...misconfigured. [22:30]
asciilifeform how typical. [22:30]
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BingoBoingo "subver" : "/JKSatoshi:0.11.56/", [22:37]
BingoBoingo ^ More useragent strange [22:37]
mircea_popescu if it bothers you can always drop aws connections at the firewall level [22:47]
asciilifeform presently i know of no reason to care [22:47]
asciilifeform plus iirc somebody here was using it [22:48]
asciilifeform (who..?) [22:48]
asciilifeform possibly ben_vulpes [22:49]
asciilifeform presently i can't entirely understand why the swarm of sybils has materialized exactly there - aws isn't particularly cheap, if you actually use the cpu/disk [22:50]
mircea_popescu iirc someone explained it on reddit - they get 100 dollars worth free if they prove they're students or some crud. [22:51]
asciilifeform l0l! [22:51]
asciilifeform so this is a strictly finite ballsack [22:51]
mircea_popescu but it's basically "some adults are giving free chickenfeed so let's take that and overturn the world!" [22:51]
mircea_popescu well... [22:51]
* asciilifeform blew an astonishing bag of usd when ran 'phuctor' on aws - and this in its mostly-useless and almost-trafficless first year and half of life [22:53]
* asciilifeform bought into the fantasy of 'elastic cpu/ram, precisely as much or little as you want' as we were promised in the '70s. it is, of course, a crock of shit, because the necessary hardware does not actually exist [22:54]
asciilifeform the increments in which you can 'buy cycles' are severely quantized. [22:54]
mircea_popescu also they charge about 10x fmv. [22:54]
asciilifeform aha. [22:55]
asciilifeform at least. [22:55]
mircea_popescu seriously, i can buy a cpu that outpuits cpu cycles at 500 a second over five years for 500 bucks [22:55]
mircea_popescu or else i can pay you 10 bucks per million ? [22:55]
mircea_popescu WHERE DO I SIGN UP!11 [22:55]
asciilifeform some of the appeal, i think, was in the notion of not having to physically house / feed / clean the thing [22:56]
mircea_popescu but the 100 dollar expenditure on "students" / redditards is absolute genius. get the fucktards to believe "nothing else exists", have cows for the rest of your life. [22:56]
mircea_popescu of course it sinks at the juncture where the cows are actually cockroaches. [22:56]
asciilifeform hey, if ants learned to 'milk' aphids, why not... roaches [22:56]
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mircea_popescu i guess. [22:59]
mircea_popescu the us' been learning to milk ever more roachy roaches for decades now. [23:00]
* asciilifeform recalls scene in oddity film 'snowpiercer' where the heroes learn that the only food that still exists is pressed-cockroach-bar [23:00]
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mircea_popescu Despite the fervor in the Bitcoin community, the odds are against Bitcoin XT. "This is not the first attempt to create a better Bitcoin, but I believe Bitcoin has such critical mass of resources devoted to it that it is unlikely anybody would abandon it for an incremental improvement,"says Gil Luria, an analyst at Wedbush Securities. "None has gotten much traction." [23:06]
mircea_popescu this, incidentally, seems as best as i can determine the consensus in actual us finance. [23:06]
asciilifeform who the fuck is that [23:06]
mircea_popescu makes the social media froth even less comprehensible. [23:07]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform wedbush is a private banker, basically. [23:07]
* asciilifeform wonders if any such folks are equipped to distinguish therealbitcoin from linoleum [23:08]
mircea_popescu (the "retail bank" where you go talk to a person you don't know that doesnty know you is really no different from mcdonalds "cuisine". irl, banks work a lot more like tailors) [23:08]
mircea_popescu yes, actually. [23:08]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i know these as 'pocket banks' aha [23:09]
mircea_popescu fwiw, my entire intel thing is fundamentally a fork off ib intel. [23:09]
mircea_popescu if they fail, it's not because their research sucks. [23:09]
mircea_popescu (just like if major attorney firm loses major trial - it's not because the paralegals sucked) [23:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3346 @ 0.00072641 = 2.4306 BTC [-] [23:10]
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* asciilifeform looks through the window and does not see any private bankers coming to ask re: therealbitcoin... perhaps they all go to mircea_popescu's house. or ben_vulpes... [23:11]
mod6 asciilifeform: here's the individual patches, archived for your review: http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/rel1-vpatches.tar.gz && http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/rel2-pre-vpatches.tar.gz [23:11]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1U1t2Oe ) [23:11]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1U1t2Og ) [23:11]
mod6 SHA256 (rel1-vpatches.tar.gz) = 98f234a7ce0210efcd0e841818479a8d7495bb1ef50b90280453d252efccdbb3 [23:11]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform because you'd tell something else than what's in the log ? [23:11]
mod6 SHA256 (rel2-pre-vpatches.tar.gz) = efee5d6f7a442748fb0326f0eb01ad69dc585e896ebadcaa6699af09b495618c [23:11]
asciilifeform l0l [23:11]
asciilifeform i prolly ~would~ end up saying 'there is a log...' [23:12]
mircea_popescu so then ? [23:12]
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mircea_popescu in general, the sure mark of a stupid yet pretentious student is, their desire to talk to the prof "privately". [23:12]
mircea_popescu because what, he's gonna give them the REAL math in private ? [23:12]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i'd imagine there is room for requests for a dec vax port or whatnot. [23:13]
mircea_popescu "everyone else i'm giving tictacs, but since you ask privately, here is the REAL quantum mechanics" [23:13]
mircea_popescu i dun think we're there yet. [23:13]
asciilifeform ^ this is unfortunately sop in usa [23:13]
asciilifeform mod6: these appear to be correct (to naked eye), even rebased as i described. neato! [23:14]
mod6 yup, np. [23:14]
asciilifeform other folks are invited to diff these with previously-published 'orchestra' to see what is meant here. [23:14]
mod6 let me know if you validate further, mechanically, whenever you get a chance. [23:14]
asciilifeform aha. [23:14]
asciilifeform prolly tomorrow. [23:14]
mod6 no worries, thx! [23:15]
mircea_popescu http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-23/what-bitcoin-xt-primer-everyone in that same vein [23:19]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1LrFPlw ) [23:19]
asciilifeform notably no mention of the various hearnias like the blacklist [23:20]
asciilifeform reads quite like a culinary review of death's cap mushroom soup that neglects to mention the magic ingredient. [23:20]
mircea_popescu "This is probably the first large scale opportunity to see whether unrestricted market forces actually do optimize a supply curve" << major point incidentally. [23:24]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's a review of the "best possible construction"./ [23:24]
mircea_popescu certainly a lot better than the last time i read an article on zero hedge. [23:26]
* asciilifeform had a thought, that 'fee market' as discussed here is not the only stable solution to a living bitcoin. there is the other one, too [23:26]
mircea_popescu for that matter - i don't even have any objections, which is more of a journalistic achievement than a pulizer in each hand. [23:26]
asciilifeform ... where the thing doesn't function as a public toilet at all. [23:26]
mircea_popescu hm ? [23:26]
asciilifeform in the sense that i can't go and just connect to, e.g., 'swift', because i'd like to. [23:26]
asciilifeform gotta be in their wot. [23:27]
asciilifeform i suppose this may technically be a degenerate case of the other solution. [23:28]
mircea_popescu it's not even a solution to the same problem [23:28]
mircea_popescu just moves the goalpost. [23:28]
asciilifeform it is a solution to 'real people and spamming scum try to occupy limited space together' [23:29]
asciilifeform in other possible nyooz, i have been told that sergei mavrodi, of the repeated mega-pyramid scheme 'mmm' fame, now has a crackpot altcoin of his own. [23:32]
asciilifeform suggesting, if indeed this is true, that he reads the logz. [23:32]
phf kek [23:35]
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phf huh, he was "active in bitcoin" for a bit, mmm was silver member in phoundation before getting kicked out, he started mmmcoin that was since killed, there's a blog post about bitcoin on his blog where he says "it's easy to take over bitcoin you just need couple of trillion u.s. dollars" [23:44]
asciilifeform so not new? hm [23:45]
phf infos from which links to btctalk threads https://forum.bits.media/index.php?/topic/3684-mavrodi-sobralsia-valit-bitkoin/, but archive doesn't pick anything up from mmmcoin.com [23:45]
assbot Мавроди собрался валить биткоин - Новости Bitcoin - Bitcoin Forum ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ed4QRC ) [23:45]
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phf (that bits.media link was supposed to be between "from" and "which") [23:47]
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