Forum logs for 17 May 2016

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
mircea_popescu: and speaking of heresy : "lone wolf" for the ishits is an incredible game. it actually makes the platform all by itself. i'm ranking it up there with baldur's gate and the gothic series, it's an absolute gem. [00:05]
mircea_popescu: based apparently on some derpy genre fiction by a fellow named joe dever. he's not very good, and his purply prose somewhat brings it down. if only they had someone who could write. but otherwise, the execution is outright brilliant [00:05]
mircea_popescu: gotta play it on hard difficulty, of course. first time i've seen a combat system i liked, for that matter. [00:11]
ben_vulpes: high praise [00:30]
mircea_popescu: deserved. [00:32]
BingoBoingo: * asciilifeform has been looking, it appears to be - like the other snowdeniana - mostly rubbish << Saw, seemed to be my take, slept on it and still mulling it over [03:13]
BingoBoingo: Quality baseball https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--sC-Ay7LG--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/tu3ntd89lvismlevh4pp.jpg [03:34]
BingoBoingo: In other news, that is a hell of an obstacle for that team to face on that race https://i.sli.mg/IL9ex0.jpg [03:46]
mircea_popescu: ftr, that butnodes thing is not terribly reliable. 91.218.246.31, 46.166.160.36, 46.166.170.208 all online talking to the public, but it "doesn't see them". [03:50]
BingoBoingo: Looking like New York magazine is following mircea_popescu's literary lead and promoting cock cages for all https://archive.is/gYtU9 [03:58]
mircea_popescu: lol! [03:59]
BingoBoingo: "Welcome to Beta Male, a new site from New York Media that for the next four weeks will talk about manly kinds of things, only maybe not in the usual manly way. And welcome to Mansplaining, a weeklong series on the Cut in which men will (finally) explain themselves to women, in any way they want. The convergence of these two offerings is coincidental but, we hope, serendipitous — an opportunity for the sexes to talk, fight a little, an [03:59]
BingoBoingo: d ultimately ignore each other." [03:59]
mircea_popescu: honestly, it's a surprise to me they haven't introduced cockcaging for us kids as of yet. for one thing, they're doing the entire fucktarded "can't drink till 21", so they definitely could. for the other thing, it'd make so much fucking sense, in the twisted psychopathy that passes for sense in the us world : kid gets a nice cage around the age of 3 or so. prevents penis from growing, which is +++. mom gives the key to a well [04:01]
mircea_popescu: brought up lady sometime, which maybe lets the little guy out a little now and again. [04:01]
BingoBoingo: Further sacrilege from that outlet: "That may sound steep for what looks like Tony Stark’s Keurig, but Beyond Zero could be the biggest thing in alcohol since the tiny umbrella. Unlike frozen water, when booze cubes melt they don’t dilute a drink and in fact, they make it colder, because they freeze at temperatures well below 32 degrees, when water turns to ice. The benefit: “It really smooths a drink out,” Sherman says. “It r [04:01]
BingoBoingo: emoves the ethanol heat.” High-proof liquors go down easier at low temperatures, resulting in beverages that taste as God intended, without all the burning. If you ever wondered why your uncle keeps his jug of Popov in the freezer, now you know." [04:01]
mircea_popescu: they already did the whole male genital mutilation thing "for medicine and science", no idea why not use the modern technology to enact the logical progress. [04:01]
mircea_popescu: maybe next 5year plan though. [04:02]
BingoBoingo: mebbe [04:10]
BingoBoingo: Or perhaps they will start on college campuses? [04:11]
mircea_popescu: kinda late, but i guess yo ugotta start somewhere. [04:13]
BingoBoingo: Well that's where the rap hysteria is, give the keys the title IX office [04:14]
mircea_popescu: now let's have a little fun [04:14]
mircea_popescu: $rate trinque 4 his lordship the master of the rolls. [04:15]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/5d64187e-d77e-4310-a6d3-417a9837c03a/ [04:15]
mircea_popescu: $v C4606D05AA10B2876F98DBBDDF5EA99358D70CAF06A454D9983EDFDA790FB75F [04:15]
deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of trinque from 3 to 4 << his lordship the master of the rolls. [04:15]
mircea_popescu: $rate phf 4 his lordship the lord chancellor [04:16]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/b4d17c8d-c40e-46f4-936e-57df43765d74/ [04:16]
mircea_popescu: $v A6827646EF601408B9EF8189EF97A279D499CD51E407DD8BA6D5189EFA3B3FAB [04:16]
deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of phf from 4 to 4 << his lordship the lord chancellor [04:16]
mircea_popescu: $rate bingoboingo 4 his lordship the lord goebbels. [04:16]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/ed8a6a87-4a6f-4094-b285-a5d34b97a977/ [04:16]
BingoBoingo: lol [04:17]
mircea_popescu: $v FDFF9C5010806654EA71128F7EEF8972F357C84347D24C2E329EBBD8C88F3143 [04:17]
deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of bingoboingo from 4 to 4 << his lordship the lord goebbels. [04:17]
mircea_popescu: hehe. [04:17]
mircea_popescu: $rate mod6 5 his lordship the lord high steward. [04:17]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/e9b9d77c-0a0e-4bd7-898d-798551684832/ [04:17]
mircea_popescu: $v C8028A7E0EBF7A608F5140E3F42D2CAE9AA36D645A86330C2B0CE7B8E73C3515 [04:17]
deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of mod6 from 5 to 5 << his lordship the lord high steward. [04:18]
mircea_popescu: $rate hanbot 5 her ladyship the lady falconeer. [04:18]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/f45c3bc6-9d86-4b9d-aa68-2c84b7a200bc/ [04:18]
mircea_popescu: $v 03C705A497E5F3A0FE9734C480E056B616109B4D7EC2B7DF934446E911115BB3 [04:19]
deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of hanbot from 5 to 5 << her ladyship the lady falconeer. [04:19]
mircea_popescu: $rate diana_coman 5 her ladyship the marquess eulora. [04:19]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/89e1a5bb-9991-451e-be01-4bacefd1c84c/ [04:19]
mircea_popescu: $v 2BC30533E2FABE5EDB0206530BE3D64CF5DD2D22BE943F3B774709433770EDAC [04:19]
deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of diana_coman from 4 to 5 << her ladyship the marquess eulora. [04:19]
mircea_popescu: $rate danielpbarron 4 his worship the learned trishop. [04:20]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/084f93d6-0896-4dbd-b07a-9f5e87451693/ [04:20]
mircea_popescu: $v BC6EE9CD5DF3125542C1A145EB459B41E1159F76A6CA5CEB9A17336BD0A175AB [04:20]
deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of danielpbarron from 3 to 4 << his worship the learned trishop. [04:20]
mircea_popescu: $rate asciilifeform 5 his lordship the lord admiral. [04:20]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/efc7e812-a081-4614-8e07-127a52c9ecaa/ [04:20]
mircea_popescu: $v B2E1E253DB45A6E8C8288791D813F140FE02EE69A87736F2F5E437BD8EA61373 [04:21]
deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of asciilifeform from 5 to 5 << his lordship the lord admiral. [04:21]
mircea_popescu: $rate davout 5 his lordship the master of common pleas. [04:21]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/d92e25d4-6627-4ddf-a074-b6badaa259d9/ [04:21]
mircea_popescu: $v 52917C3619E75035C79C9EB6DCFD2AAEF407B69B2679C41BF4E6347431FF1FE7 [04:21]
deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of davout from 4 to 5 << his lordship the master of common pleas. [04:21]
mircea_popescu: $rate jurov 5 his lordship the lord treasurer. [04:21]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/059bb783-ab35-4392-8ade-34570cfa5775/ [04:21]
mircea_popescu: $v BA2AAA69AB23D99BD9F6DBD2B49CF70D5251AFF53E9187A8EA30A10F95D9B9CE [04:22]
deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of jurov from 5 to 5 << his lordship the lord treasurer. [04:22]
mircea_popescu: $rate ben_vulpes 4 the right honorable lord vulpes. [04:22]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/8b797d59-8a58-4d77-8961-3f353a551458/ [04:22]
mircea_popescu: $v 0BBA48BD151961D75467B4437257FEB3DB8218C87C6E2776657806C119275035 [04:23]
deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of ben_vulpes from 4 to 4 << the right honorable lord vulpes. [04:23]
mircea_popescu: $rate mike_c 4 the right honorable lord c. [04:23]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/r/f5acabd3-44c8-4088-9a09-6b87ea45171d/ [04:23]
mircea_popescu: $v 769DE2CB082E4978441D900F678173341ACF15C1D5D5DEF00BE53565BF63FEA0 [04:23]
deedbot: mircea_popescu updated rating of mike_c from 4 to 4 << the right honorable lord c. [04:23]
mircea_popescu: aaaand... i think that's erryone. [04:23]
shinohai: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-17-may-2016#2094056 <<< this is what a few million in 'murican VC funding buys you today! [07:44]
a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 07:50 mircea_popescu: ftr, that butnodes thing is not terribly reliable. 91.218.246.31, 46.166.160.36, 46.166.170.208 all online talking to the public, but it "doesn't see them". [07:44]
* jurov iz 1773 l0rd yay! [08:44]
jurov: https://media.giphy.com/media/zeLKVgFt0bDpe/giphy.gif [08:45]
mircea_popescu: lol [08:46]
mircea_popescu: that's one rough bear. [08:46]
ben_vulpes: http://66.media.tumblr.com/c674eb0ca22b78f6f3527bf1ff37a14f/tumblr_o5ftx1qfGK1v05rsfo1_1280.jpg [09:29]
* ben_vulpes still has no idea what he's doing on the lordship, has barely adlai-grade snr [09:29]
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-17#1467578 << sorta works, for some value of work, some of the time. throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. [09:30]
a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 11:44 shinohai: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-17-may-2016#2094056 <<< this is what a few million in 'murican VC funding buys you today! [09:30]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes well, maybe you find something. [10:04]
* asciilifeform puts on his tricorn [10:20]
mircea_popescu: ahoy! [10:20]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-17#1467516 << my current understanding is that this is being done, but using dope, and without the off switch [10:21]
a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 08:01 mircea_popescu: honestly, it's a surprise to me they haven't introduced cockcaging for us kids as of yet. for one thing, they're doing the entire fucktarded "can't drink till 21", so they definitely could. for the other thing, it'd make so much fucking sense, in the twisted psychopathy that passes for sense in the us world : kid gets a nice cage around the age of 3 or so. prevents penis from growing, which is +++. mom gives the key to a well [10:21]
mircea_popescu: yeah, but that's a shittier solution. [10:21]
mircea_popescu: cage is palpable, therefore educative. [10:22]
asciilifeform: the zookeepers aren't esp. interested in education, but in... domestication [10:22]
asciilifeform: hence steers. [10:22]
asciilifeform: meanwhile, from the dept. of Run Moar Winblowz: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/project-zero/issues/detail?id=820 [10:23]
mircea_popescu: i guess a bureaucracy can't even be proficient in perversity. [10:23]
asciilifeform: 'When parsing executables packed by an early version of aspack, a buffer overflow can occur in the core Symantec Antivirus Engine used in most Symantec and Norton branded Antivirus products. ... This is a remote code execution vulnerability. Because Symantec use a filter driver to intercept all system I/O, just emailing a file to a victim or sending them a link is enough to exploit it. On Linux, Mac and other UNIX platforms, this res [10:23]
asciilifeform: ults in a remote heap overflow as root in the Symantec or Norton process. On Windows, this results in kernel memory corruption, as the scan engine is loaded into the kernel (wtf!!!), making this a remote ring0 memory corruption vulnerability - this is about as bad as it can possibly get.' [10:23]
mircea_popescu: hahaaha what@ [10:24]
asciilifeform: aha. [10:24]
phf: such beauty [10:24]
mircea_popescu: anyone has any argument as to how exactly the "computer security" people aren't EXACTLY scammers ? [10:25]
asciilifeform: btw this is not 1st time av gets raped [10:27]
asciilifeform: almost a routine now [10:27]
mircea_popescu: aha. [10:27]
asciilifeform: meanwhile, from the dept. of orl0lz, http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2016/05/the-negative-interest-rate-gap.html [10:30]
phf: http://www.wsj.com/articles/buffetts-berkshire-takes-1-billion-position-in-apple-1463400389 << "just didn’t seem like a move Mr. Buffett would make. It wasn’t, as it turns out. Instead, it was among the largest investments yet by the two former hedge-fund managers that Mr. Buffett brought on board as potential successors to run his company’s $129 billion stock portfolio." [10:34]
phf: (and since nobody should be arsed to read that shit, i'll spoil the names for you, "But Todd Combs, who joined Berkshire in 2011, and Ted Weschler, who arrived a year later", rest of article is a mix of head scratching and guarded apple praise) [10:39]
asciilifeform: l0l! [10:48]
asciilifeform: so he ~did~ get bobbecked. [10:48]
mircea_popescu: ha. [10:50]
ben_vulpes: nobody finds the proximity of this to the 'apple invests 1b in didi" story interesting? [10:50]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-17#1467579 << 91* actually appears on that site's list (as of today), the other two do not - but i can't connect to them either. blackholed. [10:51]
a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 11:44 a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 07:50 mircea_popescu: ftr, that butnodes thing is not terribly reliable. 91.218.246.31, 46.166.160.36, 46.166.170.208 all online talking to the public, but it "doesn't see them". [10:51]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what's didi [10:51]
ben_vulpes: especially after the buffet "america is best investmant!1" routine of the past five years? [10:51]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes maybe BingoBoingo if he can be arsed. [10:51]
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-apple-china-idUSKCN0Y404W, to pick at random [10:51]
asciilifeform: lel, that's pretty random [10:52]
asciilifeform: chinese uber ? [10:52]
ben_vulpes: "for teh car!" [10:52]
ben_vulpes: "big data!" [10:52]
asciilifeform: i still dun get it [10:53]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform appears, but magically still 6 seen. etc. [10:53]
mircea_popescu: not reliable is niot reliable. [10:53]
asciilifeform: may as well invest in cement ? [10:53]
ben_vulpes: "exposure to cn!" [10:53]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my point is that the whole motherfucking orchestra is not reliable [10:53]
mircea_popescu: also note the "since 5 minutes ago". 46.* didn't blinl [10:53]
asciilifeform: not only hitler says he can't connect, but i can't either... [10:53]
asciilifeform: the 'let's talk plaintext to randos' thing was great while it lasted. [10:54]
asciilifeform: from ben_vulpes's link, [10:55]
asciilifeform: 'Jean Liu, Didi's president, is the daughter of Liu Chuanzhi, the politically connected founder of Chinese computer maker Lenovo Group Ltd (0992.HK).' [10:55]
asciilifeform: cn sop. [10:55]
mircea_popescu: accepted 136.243.139.96:43112 disconnecting 136.243.139.96:43112 accepted 178.62.20.190:35312 [10:56]
mircea_popescu: blackholed my foot. [10:56]
mircea_popescu: disconnecting 136.243.139.96:7513 < actually it's quite obviously being spammed. [10:59]
asciilifeform: re earlier lulz, http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-usa-companies-lawsuits-idUSKCN0Y2131 [10:59]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: noshit.jpg [10:59]
mircea_popescu: derps. [10:59]
mircea_popescu: disconnecting 129.13.252.47:59763 accepted 129.13.252.47:60827 [10:59]
mircea_popescu: basically there's a pile of derps connecting on all the ports. not so hard to blacklist i guess. [11:00]
mircea_popescu: and it's obviously an attempt at attrition seeing how the sockets receive no messages [11:00]
mircea_popescu: 164 46.101.246.115 152 136.243.139.96 72 148.251.151.71 125 173.255.251.118 95 181.171.213.172 << the offenders [11:09]
jurov: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAOLTsTtZis something special for BingoBoingo [11:11]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform check it out, now they see one of mine in 46.* but no longer yours. because there's a rule lol. [11:12]
mircea_popescu: such tools. [11:13]
asciilifeform: brilliant [11:29]
shinohai: later tell BingoBoingo morning lampoon: http://ix.io/FwI [11:37]
gribble: The operation succeeded. [11:37]
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-17#1467516 << my current understanding is that this is being done, but using dope, and without the off switch << AHA, prozac, zoloft, paxil and other SSRI drugs [11:37]
a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 08:01 mircea_popescu: honestly, it's a surprise to me they haven't introduced cockcaging for us kids as of yet. for one thing, they're doing the entire fucktarded "can't drink till 21", so they definitely could. for the other thing, it'd make so much fucking sense, in the twisted psychopathy that passes for sense in the us world : kid gets a nice cage around the age of 3 or so. prevents penis from growing, which is +++. mom gives the key to a well [11:37]
BingoBoingo: jurov: lol [11:42]
BingoBoingo: In other news, Imgur.com is the latest popular shitsite whose urls will lead to a Qntra comment being auto ignored as spam. [11:45]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: speaking of newzl0lz, http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/05/feds-say-suspect-should-rot-in-prison-for-refusing-to-decrypt-drives [11:50]
BingoBoingo: lol [11:50]
asciilifeform: 'The government said Monday he should remain jailed indefinitely until he complies. The authorities also said that it's not a violation of the man's Fifth Amendment right against compelled self-incrimination because it's a "foregone conclusion" that illegal porn is on the drives and that he is only being asked to unlock the drives, not divulge their passcodes. [11:51]
asciilifeform: ' [11:51]
asciilifeform: cokemachine is not far. [11:51]
shinohai: http://fortune.com/2016/05/16/venezuela-jail-factory-owners/ [11:52]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You seem like a less busy person nao. You want to write up that news from coke machine slant? [11:52]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'm still pretty busy, at least for a while [11:53]
BingoBoingo: k [11:54]
asciilifeform: it isn't as if i found a magic well of dough, i still (imagine) do wurk [11:54]
asciilifeform: presently wrapping my head around a gigantic src ball of ???? [11:55]
BingoBoingo: Have you tried applying to Home Depot? They will let you work part time. 20 hours/week leaves you less prison time than 40+ hours of sodomy. [11:55]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun leave the house no moar. [11:56]
asciilifeform: (there will be some sort of gig i fly out to a few x/year, but hasn't yet happened) [11:56]
deedbot: [Qntra] Hussein Bahamas "Homeland Security" Department Wages War On Massage - http://qntra.net/2016/05/hussein-bahamas-homeland-security-department-wages-war-on-massage/ [11:59]
asciilifeform: and i am really curious what BingoBoingo has been smoking [11:59]
BingoBoingo: Tobacco [11:59]
asciilifeform: 'home despot' month wage wouldn't even pay my electric bill. [11:59]
BingoBoingo: Use less electric? Seriously though they'd basically be paying you to exercise. [11:59]
BingoBoingo: And it would be hard to service Hitler there [12:00]
asciilifeform: by that token i could eat pistol and use 0 electric [12:01]
asciilifeform: but not interested yet. [12:01]
BingoBoingo: Anyways, prolly ought to convert as many appliances as you can from electric to 2-cycle gas motors because Hitler hates their farts. [12:02]
asciilifeform: i can think of very few mechanisms i despise more than 2cycle engine. [12:03]
asciilifeform: if there is any point at all to having civilizations that ban things, 2cycle ought to have long ago been placed where the spark gap radio is [12:03]
asciilifeform: forbidden anywhere near population centres [12:04]
BingoBoingo: What's wrong with 2-cycle? They are wonderfully simple. No need to do seperate oil changes. [12:06]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo enjoys breathing burned oil ? [12:07]
BingoBoingo: 2-cycle exhaust is the EXACT smell of freedom and opportunity! [12:08]
asciilifeform: nah that'd be napalm in the morning [12:09]
asciilifeform: or was that victory. [12:09]
BingoBoingo: That is victory. [12:10]
asciilifeform: 'One of the women allegedly offered an undercover officer money in exchange for a sexual act, resulting in an additional prostitution charge.' << not misprint ? [12:11]
asciilifeform: dog bit man ? [12:11]
asciilifeform: or man - dog ? [12:11]
BingoBoingo: ^ shinohai [12:11]
asciilifeform: i read 'man - dog' [12:11]
BingoBoingo: seems man bit dog [12:11]
* shinohai shrugs, prepares more tea. [12:12]
asciilifeform: http://qntra.net/2016/05/countable-classiccoin-nodes-dropping/#comment-58690 << lulzy [12:12]
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Which way is it supposed to read? [12:13]
shinohai: I dunno, will reread after this tea is finished. [12:15]
asciilifeform: from the dept. of ancient things that were neato, http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2014/01/robot_odyssey_the_hardest_computer_game_of_all_time.html [12:17]
deedbot: [Qntra] Hussein Bahamas "Justice" Department To Jail US Citizen Indefinitely Without Charges - http://qntra.net/2016/05/hussein-bahamas-justice-department-to-jail-us-citizen-indefinitely-without-charges/ [12:20]
BingoBoingo: bc,stats [12:31]
gribble: Current Blocks: 412179 | Current Difficulty: 1.9425482028344403E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 413279 | Next Difficulty In: 1100 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 11 hours, 35 minutes, and 30 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [12:31]
asciilifeform: later tell hanbot http://thewhet.net/2016/2016-baibf-a-drudgery << somehow i missed this. quite lulzy, and reminiscent of american b00k-centered events (e.g., sf cons) [14:18]
gribble: The operation succeeded. [14:18]
asciilifeform: seen polarbeard [14:26]
gribble: I have not seen polarbeard. [14:26]
asciilifeform: seen funkenstein_ [14:26]
gribble: I have not seen funkenstein_. [14:26]
asciilifeform: interesting. [14:26]
asciilifeform: in other 'news', [14:29]
asciilifeform: trb on dulap up for 127 d, 17h, 30m, contiguous current footprint == ~8G. [14:30]
BingoBoingo: nice [14:37]
asciilifeform: ny000000000000 r3c0rd every day!11111 [14:38]
deedbot: [Qntra] Transmayos Throw Wrench In Hussein Bahamas Bathroom Brouha - http://qntra.net/2016/05/transmayos-throw-wrench-in-hussein-bahamas-bathroom-brouha/ [14:42]
BingoBoingo: ^ Literal application of shitware tag [14:45]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i find it quite nontrivial to unravel wtf that piece is actually about [15:20]
asciilifeform: having read none of the redditola that presumably prompted it [15:20]
BingoBoingo: Transgenders and bathrooms [15:20]
asciilifeform: yeah but ~what~ about'em [15:20]
asciilifeform: i have intensely nfi what the actual latest 'twist' is [15:21]
BingoBoingo: And Bahamas insisting people allow transgenders to use the bathrooms they identify as, even if they are mayogender but still identify as their former gender [15:21]
asciilifeform: as i understood it, the entire 2bathroom thing is slowly being repealed [15:21]
asciilifeform: for some reason this doesn't tickle me [15:22]
BingoBoingo: No, just the meaning of the 2bathroom is changing. [15:22]
asciilifeform: (although mircea_popescu pretty convincingly explained that it ought to) [15:22]
BingoBoingo: Eh, the pentagon was built with a 4bathroom system [15:24]
asciilifeform: m/w * black/white ? [15:24]
BingoBoingo: aha [15:24]
asciilifeform: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/The_Pentagon << related comedy [15:30]
hanbot: BingoBoingo, a few typographical edits: Last week much of the American media's news pipelines were constipated the announcement / constipated by/with Hussein Bahamas announcement / Bahamas' a adipose filled apron / an adipose Many mayogndered individuals / mayogendered insistence of maygendered / mayogendered than it is for male and females / males . [15:31]
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-17#1467703 << only conventions i ever attended back in us were sd comicon, seemed markedly less lame (but still fairly lame). [15:33]
a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 18:18 asciilifeform: later tell hanbot http://thewhet.net/2016/2016-baibf-a-drudgery << somehow i missed this. quite lulzy, and reminiscent of american b00k-centered events (e.g., sf cons) [15:33]
BingoBoingo: ty, fxing [15:34]
asciilifeform: hanbot: i showed up at 'balticon' a few times (where i even saw, by pure chance... the infamous eric raymond, limping along) [15:34]
asciilifeform: and also at 'capclave' [15:34]
asciilifeform: both are ok places to load up on '50s-60s paperback sf [15:35]
trinque: the bathroom thing is yet another "social issue" that can stall permanently like gay marriage or abortion [15:35]
asciilifeform: typically they have an actual writer as guest of honor, and a hundred or so pathetic 'wannabees' [15:35]
trinque: thereby taking up the limited resources of the democratic mind [15:36]
hanbot: asciilifeform good enough, but do they sport >9000 noise/myopia machines? [15:36]
asciilifeform: hanbot: these being what ? [15:36]
asciilifeform: trinque: on the contrary, it is moving along nicely. e.g., in many restaurants even now, there is only 1 or more single-locking-room bathrooms. i welcome the extinction of the other kind, where you actually see/hear/smell the other people. [15:37]
asciilifeform: good motherfuckign riddance. [15:37]
hanbot: portable radios/pc "sound systems"/projectors/color-changing spotlights/blinkenlichten [15:38]
asciilifeform: hanbot: nope. [15:38]
phf: asciilifeform: main issue with that plan is that girls notoriously take longer time in the bathroom. very rarely do i have to wait in man's bathroom, but i've now spent some time in long mixed gender lines [15:38]
BingoBoingo: ty hanbot should be fixed [15:39]
hanbot: cool deal [15:39]
asciilifeform: phf: if anyone cared to solve this, it is trivially solvable, and iirc some western eu places have the pill against it: door automatically opens after x minutes [15:40]
BingoBoingo: Some changes were made to the changes "male and females" was instead changed to "traditionally gendered" [15:40]
asciilifeform: countdown, 3, 2, 1, and yer pants had better be up [15:40]
hanbot: <trinque> the bathroom thing is yet another "social issue" that can stall permanently like gay marriage or abortion << pun o' the day [15:40]
BingoBoingo: One thing that is becoming clear is the lord admirald alf is not ready to take his fleet into fight the culture war [15:44]
asciilifeform: waiwut [15:45]
asciilifeform: there's culture there? [15:45]
asciilifeform: i hear there is also a war between the 2 anthills in my back yard [15:45]
asciilifeform: i have not yet signed up to take sides in that one yet, either. [15:45]
BingoBoingo: No culture, but that doesn't mean there can't be a fight over the absence [15:46]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: so what do you see as the opposing sides here [15:46]
BingoBoingo: Who said the sides had to be opposing? [15:47]
asciilifeform: sorta implied in 'war' neh? [15:47]
BingoBoingo: Do shit flinging monkeys have stable sides in their turdwarz? [15:47]
BingoBoingo: $up Framedragger [15:47]
deedbot: Framedragger voiced for 30 minutes. [15:47]
Framedragger: "maybe irc bouncers for bad connections are a good idea" :) [15:48]
asciilifeform: and for good connections. [15:49]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: How many sides does hamster wheel have [15:49]
Framedragger: indeed, indeed.. [15:49]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: dunno about you but i do not run on hamster wheels, nor spend time in monkey house, nor fraternise with the ants, nor try to fit into rat tunnels, etc [15:49]
asciilifeform: let the animal kingdom be. [15:49]
asciilifeform: unless yer a farmer, or paid exterminator, whatever. [15:50]
BingoBoingo: What is unrewarding about those professions. Exterminators get paid to play Himmler all day! [15:50]
asciilifeform: google "will you rub some lotion on my back" [15:51]
gribble: Error: We broke The Google! [15:51]
asciilifeform: ugh. [15:51]
hanbot: isn't being an exterminator an inherent part of being paid? [15:51]
asciilifeform: hanbot: apparently not... [15:51]
phf: asciilifeform: unless you're inside mp's dirigible, pretty sure you're inside monkey house. these "wars" mostly end with you losing further ground one way or another [15:51]
asciilifeform: phf: on the reservation, at any rate [15:52]
BingoBoingo: hanbot: Plenty of homeowners play exterminitor on their own unpaid [15:52]
asciilifeform: but the latter is presently large enough that one can avoid running into any monkeys for arbitrary stretch of time [15:52]
BingoBoingo: related http://www.theonion.com/article/trump-supporter-still-planning-rioting-national-co-52878 [15:53]
asciilifeform: but yes, when folks like BingoBoingo ask 'why the burn rate', asciilifeform answers 'keeping force field against monkeys going is not cheap' [15:53]
phf: asciilifeform: my point is that like with any war, "on the reservation" you're not necessarily going to run into active soldiers, but more likely into a mine, or border control, or whatever else the effects of war are. [15:54]
asciilifeform: eventually. [15:54]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Maybe spray smarter? [15:56]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: care to be more specific ? [15:57]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, generally if you spray the right kind of sweet murder target toward the pest you actually have... You end up having to spray less of it and saving. [15:58]
BingoBoingo: Just because all the marketing is behind monsanto and glyphosate doesn't mean there aren't cases where a diquat is phine too. [15:59]
asciilifeform: not entirely unrelatedly, as a young man i kept 'bug spray' around, habitually, as my ancestors did but then learned that wet/dry vac works 100% as well and doesn't create cloud of poisonous crud to breathe the rest of the day [15:59]
BingoBoingo: Sure, but there's spray you can use before the bug is even there that work better. [16:02]
asciilifeform: i can scarcely apprehend what BingoBoingo's house must smell like. [16:02]
* BingoBoingo kind of surprised in the swamp that termites have not already ate the alfnest. [16:02]
asciilifeform: carpenter ant is more common here. [16:03]
BingoBoingo: Aha, so ant is winning ant/termite war there I presume? [16:03]
BingoBoingo: Anyways permethrin doesn't really have any smell I can discern once it is dry [16:04]
BingoBoingo: And once it dries in place it both repels and murder vermin [16:05]
asciilifeform: when i worked in the outfit that did antidotes for organophosphate poisons ('nerve' gases) we used these common pesticides as a substitute for the real thing [16:06]
asciilifeform: (as the facility wasn't usg-blessed for the Real Deal) [16:06]
asciilifeform: works just as well, just with different, slower kinetics [16:06]
BingoBoingo: Sure, dose makes the poison [16:06]
asciilifeform: 'dose' is tricky concept [16:07]
asciilifeform: as some folks in the good ol' days found out when they tried to do the 'acclimate to strychnine' thing with cumulative poisons, e.g, arsenic [16:07]
BingoBoingo: Look, none of us are going to live to be 145. Do you want to live among the roaches or not... [16:29]
* BingoBoingo realizes he maybe ought to stahp pushing alf towards "better living through chemistry" or he might become the sort who mows his lawn with Imazapyr [16:29]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: y'know, there is >1 way to live free of roach [16:34]
BingoBoingo: Sure, but your blog seems to be rather centered on various kitchen pests. I just assume it isn't a coincidence. [16:35]
asciilifeform: not the least. [16:35]
asciilifeform: at the time i wrote most of it, i lived in a vile and uncleanable (in the sense that vermin lived in the walls and fed upon the opulent fastfood waste of the verminiferous neighbours) [16:36]
asciilifeform: cheapo flat [16:36]
asciilifeform: i do not live there any more [16:37]
asciilifeform: nor have any intention of ever so much as chancing to. [16:37]
asciilifeform: nor have any interest in the 'just fill it up with ddt' approach to problem-solving [16:38]
asciilifeform: in this or other fields. [16:38]
BingoBoingo: How is jsut fill it up with ddt any different when you live in one of those than live with x86 is in coputing for same problem [16:41]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: x86 is more analogous to, perhaps, roaches and lice in a prison cell [16:41]
asciilifeform: where you dun have the option of moving [16:41]
asciilifeform: and your choices reduce to whether to eat the bugs or not yet [16:42]
ben_vulpes: what cell [16:50]
ben_vulpes: the world is a concrete box! [16:50]
ben_vulpes: and these-- [16:50]
ben_vulpes: my cattle [16:50]
* ben_vulpes noms an abstraction [16:51]
shinohai: asciilifeform: https://twitter.com/BoltsJ/status/727270582421733377 [17:18]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform & other interested parties : i've actually verified that the behaviour in question comes from stock bitcoin 0.6 and some 0.7. the shit's so bad it self-ddoses its own network! [17:25]
asciilifeform: hm? [17:27]
asciilifeform: shinohai: who's that ? [17:27]
mircea_popescu: the stock historical bitcoin client, prb, without any modification, will act like a malicious node. [17:27]
asciilifeform: well yes [17:28]
asciilifeform: but how [17:28]
mircea_popescu: that part i've not invested in. [17:28]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-17#1467659 << the logic of these idiots. [17:31]
a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 15:51 asciilifeform: 'The government said Monday he should remain jailed indefinitely until he complies. The authorities also said that it's not a violation of the man's Fifth Amendment right against compelled self-incrimination because it's a "foregone conclusion" that illegal porn is on the drives and that he is only being asked to unlock the drives, not divulge their passcodes. [17:31]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-17#1467668 << lmao stop picking on teh poor bee! [17:31]
a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 15:55 BingoBoingo: Have you tried applying to Home Depot? They will let you work part time. 20 hours/week leaves you less prison time than 40+ hours of sodomy. [17:31]
mircea_popescu: you know incidentally, if the current nazi party were in fact in soviet russia we'd prolly all be working for the same home depot doing a very... disturbing version of clerks, the movie series. [17:32]
mircea_popescu: it's ~how various countercultural things even existed in the first place. [17:33]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-17#1467675 << no because http://trilema.com/2016/the-megawatt-standard/ [17:34]
a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 15:59 BingoBoingo: Use less electric? Seriously though they'd basically be paying you to exercise. [17:34]
mircea_popescu: " One of the women allegedly offered an undercover officer money in exchange for a sexual act, resulting in an additional prostitution charge." << wait, she was going to pay HIM ? [17:35]
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-17#1467827 dunno was grepping followers tweets for certain terms and that one popped up. Never heard of the guy. [17:36]
a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 21:27 asciilifeform: shinohai: who's that ? [17:36]
mircea_popescu: dude just how bad has this castration thing got in the us ?! [17:36]
shinohai: Yeah and I see my Qntra mistake now, was hoping BingoBoingo could graciously edit, or I'll send in a rewrite. [17:36]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-17#1467679 << omfg now i also wonder what's in bb's tobacco. this insanity coallesced in my head like that iconic cartoon scene of all the clocks going off, except you know... with loud obnoxious two stroke engines. [17:37]
a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 16:02 BingoBoingo: Anyways, prolly ought to convert as many appliances as you can from electric to 2-cycle gas motors because Hitler hates their farts. [17:37]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-17#1467681 << word. fucking abominable idiocy. [17:38]
a111: Logged on 2016-05-17 16:03 asciilifeform: if there is any point at all to having civilizations that ban things, 2cycle ought to have long ago been placed where the spark gap radio is [17:38]
trinque: https://www.youtube.com/embed/d157dfkKsa8 << I've got one for the self-castration thread [17:39]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform whence teh hatred of funken ? [17:39]
asciilifeform: i've nothing against the fella [17:41]
asciilifeform: talking to him right now in the old ruins even [17:42]
asciilifeform: re ecc vs rsa [17:42]
asciilifeform: but was wondering why he isn't here. [17:42]
asciilifeform: trinque: wtf is that [17:46]
asciilifeform: can haz summary [17:46]
trinque: portland community college "professor" proposes we pay infinite monies to vaguely defined category of downtrodden [17:47]
asciilifeform: yeah but why is the camera on the floor..? [17:47]
trinque: some guy wanted to post it to infowars I guess [17:48]
* trinque considers drinking every time she says "dialectic" [17:49]
asciilifeform: they only accept footage from anal camera ? [17:49]
trinque: seems appropriate I guess [17:51]
trinque: anal camera captures woman offering up the collective european butthole [17:51]
asciilifeform: that was a woman?! [17:51]
trinque: wants to be at any rate [17:53]
asciilifeform: speaking of woman, must resurrect old thread: [17:54]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-14#1466468 << important question that perhaps only mircea_popescu could answer: is there a 'background lactation' ? [17:54]
a111: Logged on 2016-05-14 13:23 mircea_popescu: bad crop, bad pose, what the fuck is it with the milkstained, nipple torn bra and so on. [17:54]
asciilifeform: (would be, presumably, a small but continuous stream, to 'nimble the gears' or whatnot) [17:55]
trinque: wouldn't blow my mind that the thing is not a perfect seal [17:57]
trinque: what is on the human body? [17:57]
asciilifeform: well it wouldn't be on account of poor seal [17:57]
asciilifeform: but if the gland actually secretes some trace amount [17:57]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's some post-intoxication lactation. [18:05]
mircea_popescu: but no, generally no such thing. note that the breast we all know and love is clinically known as the immature breast [18:05]
mircea_popescu: the mature breast is quite a specific thing, and it needs a coupla months to occur, post partum. [18:06]
asciilifeform: what'd be the mechanism where newborn kid of either sex sometimes lactates, then ? [18:06]
mircea_popescu: it's not actual lactation though. [18:07]
asciilifeform: in what sense not ? [18:07]
mircea_popescu: witch's milk. see, when woman is about to deliver specific hormonal changes in her system drive the maturation of breast tissue. [18:08]
mircea_popescu: they drive the maturation of ALL breast tissue, there's no targetting geographically, it's chem signalling [18:08]
mircea_popescu: so in some cases tiny islands in child breast undergo same process. but it's brief and reverts naturally, without scarring [18:08]
mircea_popescu: ie, the infantile cells are yet unspecialised, and for that reason react to the signal. in "true" lactation actual specialised tit tissue reacts. [18:09]
asciilifeform: and what reacts in, e.g., grown man with pituitary tumour pissing out prolactin ? [18:12]
mircea_popescu: adult tissue :) post puberty it's the same thing on either gender. [18:13]
mircea_popescu: same reason males can get breast cancer etc. [18:13]
mircea_popescu: in truth, human body is complex, but not uniformly sophisticated. some parts are ridiculous in their inept simplicity. [18:14]
Category: Logs
Comments feed : RSS 2.0. Leave your own comment below, or send a trackback.
Add your cents! »
    If this is your first comment, it will wait to be approved. This usually takes a few hours. Subsequent comments are not delayed.