Forum logs for 17 Mar 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
asciilifeform except that mr y is a much more talented whore than yours truly [00:00]
mircea_popescu this pov where women without further specification are somehow valuable still boggles me. [00:00]
asciilifeform the kind that is a couplea-zeroes apart [00:00]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform how do you know this ? [00:00]
* asciilifeform has insufficient data for specification [00:00]
* asciilifeform has very few items that rise to the level of 'knowledge' about mr y, mainly thirdhand rumour [00:01]
mircea_popescu i think you drastically overestimate the well being of others. but at least it's consistent with the meta nsa/lizard hitler outlook. [00:01]
asciilifeform -somebody- flies first class and sleeps ad libitum [00:02]
ben_vulpes if not mr y, then surely lizard hitler [00:02]
ben_vulpes and damn his eyes for it! [00:02]
ben_vulpes or anyone who might. [00:02]
asciilifeform His Reptilian Majesty! [00:02]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i'd ask how you know this, but i'll let it slide :D [00:02]
decimation asciilifeform: I'm not sure about that. it seems to me that the us is all about everyone trying to keep everyone else from doing exactly that [00:02]
decimation the rhetoric in the us tends toward "a rising tide lifts all boats" but the more apparent reality is to squash the up-and-coming - to prevent competition from above and to 'enhance equality' from below [00:04]
mircea_popescu this crabpottery is quite recent [00:05]
decimation mircea_popescu: I think it is correlated with the mass looting of public companies that became fashionable in the late 70's/early 80's [00:06]
mircea_popescu nah. that's natural, and welcome - capitalism rebuidling itself. [00:07]
mircea_popescu when you get a bunch of idiots who wish agency without agency, looting is both necessary and ideal. [00:07]
mircea_popescu "public companies" pssh. [00:07]
mircea_popescu why wasn't the buffallo a "public company" in 1830 ? [00:08]
decimation charles murray has written about how the 'elites' and common folk lived in the same neighborhoods together [00:09]
mircea_popescu i fucking wrote about it. elite me lived in the same bus as some alabamian black kids, to no detriment of either of us, au contraire. [00:10]
mircea_popescu something average usian can not do. because reasons. [00:10]
decimation http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=16-01-2015#979013 < elites became paranoid [00:11]
assbot Logged on 16-01-2015 04:45:31; mircea_popescu: you're stuck hiding in your gated compound from imaginary niggers. [00:11]
mircea_popescu yea [00:11]
asciilifeform and meanwhile escalating ethn0w4rz to keep things interesting [00:11]
decimation actually the elites were racist as fuck, and were quite willing to use the underclass as a weapon against the kulaks while they built imaginary 'barriers' around their homes [00:12]
asciilifeform 'the death and life of great american cities' (jacobs) [00:13]
asciilifeform ^ mega-classic [00:13]
decimation also I would note that this happened at a time when the intellectual fashion was to scorn any project designed to civilize the 'other' [00:15]
decimation 'arrow to the throat - it's the only language the savages understand' [00:15]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: '"Give it here." then in the phone "It's Francine A. Hayek. H-A-Y-E-K." and then after a pregnant pause, "No, just a name coincidence."' << m3g4l0l!! [00:24]
* asciilifeform falls down [00:24]
danielpbarron http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2006/09/14/netbsd_future.html << more history about the BSDs [00:28]
assbot Confessions of a Recovering NetBSD Zealot - O'Reilly Media ... ( http://bit.ly/1FtcVzv ) [00:28]
danielpbarron Since it came up in the /. thread, though, I would like to make one correction. It's widely claimed that I'm "the one" who ejected Theo from the NetBSD community. That is false. At that time in NetBSD's history, Chris G. Demetriou was playing the role of alpha male, and I wasn't even given a choice. I was certain it was going to bite us in the ass. I think the question for historians is not whether it did bite us in the ass, [00:28]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform aha ? [00:30]
mircea_popescu tyhat bad ? [00:30]
asciilifeform so bad that good (TM) [00:30]
asciilifeform as in, register rolls over. [00:30]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron he can of course point to deedbot deeds proving these claims, [00:30]
mircea_popescu or fail that, to anything ? [00:30]
asciilifeform (proposes 'ROL' to augment the customary 'lol' as term of art) [00:31]
danielpbarron http://www.theos.com/deraadt/coremail.html < pre-deedbot history was kept in the form of email dumps [00:32]
asciilifeform 'Even today, most software distributions on the net (and this includes NetBSD) are not signed.' << wat? [00:32]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1FtdN7f ) [00:32]
asciilifeform ^ is above still true ?! [00:32]
asciilifeform 'deedbot' concept is older than might appear [00:33]
asciilifeform ;;google cediinnoopsssttuu [00:33]
gribble Achievements - Robert Hooke Society: ; Download Sample pages 1 PDF - Springer: ; INNER ELASTICITY and the HIGHER-ORDER ELASTICITY of some ...: [00:33]
decimation "In addition, Wasabi actually held up a NetBSD release for more than a week, while failing to tell even the developer community why. (The main release engineer happened to be a Wasabi employee, so this was easy.) After I personally pushed the release out without them, it was finally revealed that this was because there was a secret arrangement, which only Wasabi employees and Wasabi board members knew about, to do a combined NetBSD [00:35]
decimation Foundation and Wasabi press release. They were actually upset at me for preempting this." << lol this guy is no linus [00:35]
decimation that writing smacks of stallmans nerd-rage [00:36]
* asciilifeform never really saw the 'rage' angle re: rms [00:36]
asciilifeform the devil that rms preaches about - exists. [00:36]
asciilifeform he walks around, you can go and touch him at your phriendly local electronics shop. [00:37]
asciilifeform in fact, unless you're approximately in the same class of crackpot weirdo as rms - that devil is sitting right next to you in invisible chair. [00:37]
decimation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM8mKMtEg7M < 2:07 he rages [00:39]
assbot Richard Stallman Goes Crazy and Freaks Out - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ftfi5u ) [00:39]
asciilifeform was that when the pickpockets of buenos aires got his mips laptop ? [00:39]
decimation heh I think so [00:40]
asciilifeform not much to do with doctrine, then. [00:40]
decimation no, more of "I let these people 'work' on my project and suddenly they were controlling it" [00:40]
asciilifeform 'Most of us had a very strong distaste for the so-called "virus" clause in the GPL, and this is the primary reason we did not adopt it. There was also some thinking that CSRG (Berkeley) and the X Consortium had been successful with leaner, looser licenses, so why bother. In retrospect I think this was naive; if you look at the history, you'll see that neither CSRG nor the X Consortium were really successful in getting third pa [00:42]
asciilifeform rties to contribute back most of their changes--and so what we really got in both cases was a long list of derived but very different, and often incompatible, systems.' [00:42]
asciilifeform ^ fact is, gpl has perfectly valid reasons for existing; most of which resolve to folks not wishing to give aid and comfort to the enemy [00:43]
asciilifeform if there is any way of preventing it [00:43]
decimation it's ironic that the guy doesn't want to have the 'virus clause' interfere with BSD distribution yet was apparently willing to let some random company take over the project [00:44]
asciilifeform and the enemy is approximately who rms tells us it is. [00:44]
asciilifeform critics of rms are always very quick to remember the snot-eating or fits of frothing madness, or whateverthephuck but rarely address the actual arguments in anything like a direct and intelligent way [00:45]
decimation I agree with that, but it also seems that the rms 'project' is largely failing [00:45]
asciilifeform 'jeszcze Polska nie zginęła' [00:45]
decimation in the sense that the major 'open source' projects are switching to non-gpl licenses - or are trying to be devoured by the same [00:45]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron it doesn't seem to be in there tho. besides, i'd hope he's not relying on theo's testimony ? does he have his own bundle ? [00:45]
asciilifeform ^ from the pl national anthem [00:45]
asciilifeform 'pl is not yet dead' (next being, 'while we still live') [00:46]
mircea_popescu 'Even today, blablabladerp.' << wat? << i'll tell you what. "mommy, i got a 7 in algebra, but you should have seen all the other kids at retard school, they got 3 and 4!" [00:46]
decimation also, stallman hasn't done much about the 'hardware problem' [00:46]
asciilifeform decimation: what would you suggest he do about it ? [00:46]
decimation I have no idea, but it does seem like software cannot stand freely alone [00:47]
mircea_popescu it's ironic that the guy doesn't want to have the 'virus clause' interfere with BSD distribution yet was apparently willing to let some random company take over the project << actually... it's all in the bias. irrespective of what the words may say, these were govenrment men. of course they saw no problem giving their thing to governmenty-something. their only actual problem would have been "terrorists", a [00:48]
mircea_popescu ka, not drones getting it. [00:48]
asciilifeform decimation: barring some quite perverse retroactive usg shenanigans (never say 'never.' it happened in ru) gpl stuff is staying gpl [00:48]
asciilifeform forever. [00:48]
BingoBoingo danielpbarron it doesn't seem to be in there tho. besides, i'd hope he's not relying on theo's testimony ? does he have his own bundle ? << In Theo's Bundle Theo blames Charles Hannum explicitly near the end. Demetrio in my reading of the dump seems to be an aggrevating factor. [00:48]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform the only reason gpl stays gpl atm is because it's not worth much. otherwise... it didn't happen in the cccp only. it happened in the us, and everywhere else. [00:49]
decimation asciilifeform: are you saying that commercial code isn't riddled with 'gpled snippets'? [00:49]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo yeah, but still, as a point of procedure, muppet should be trained to back himself up. "here's what i say it was then, and here's where i published it then" [00:49]
mircea_popescu they have to be forced to come to terms and accept the plain fact that if they don't publish, they ARE lying. [00:49]
mircea_popescu no excuses, no slack cut for any reason. you keep a blog or fuck you. [00:50]
asciilifeform decimation: no, merely that everything once published under gpl is still distributable, no one has yet come up with, in usa, with 'we retroactively own this' [00:50]
asciilifeform attempts - yes. but ticket wasn't punched yet. [00:50]
asciilifeform yet. [00:50]
mircea_popescu the peasants demand church land be redistributed! [00:51]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i was referring to the post-soviet laugh where you now 'have to' (lol) pay to see the filmz i grew up with, etc [00:51]
mircea_popescu ah, that. [00:51]
asciilifeform the 'privatization' of everything [00:51]
asciilifeform ussr did not sign berne convention [00:51]
asciilifeform but ru did [00:51]
asciilifeform '95 [00:52]
mircea_popescu so ? [00:52]
asciilifeform and -retroactive- [00:52]
mircea_popescu yeah right. [00:52]
asciilifeform article 18 iirc [00:52]
mircea_popescu you can put anything you want on paper, doesn't mean jack. [00:52]
asciilifeform didn't say it -meant- [00:53]
asciilifeform but that it went on the paper [00:53]
asciilifeform one doesn't have to believe in god to discuss religion [00:53]
mircea_popescu yeh. [00:53]
asciilifeform (see eben moglen re: rule of law) [00:53]
mircea_popescu ;;google eben moglen rule of law [00:54]
gribble Eben Moglen: "Snowden and the Future" | David Bollier: ; Eben Moglen: ; Legal Fictions and Common Law Legal Theory - Eben Moglen: [00:54]
* mircea_popescu never read all this snowden derivative corpus [00:54]
asciilifeform iirc it was short & simple, something like 'yeah i'm an anarchist lawyer. you don't have to like disease to be a doctor, either' [00:55]
mircea_popescu works. [00:55]
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asciilifeform 'We honestly had (and have) developers who think that changing all the line-ending whitespace was really important. Or that whether there are some "legacy" K&R-style prototypes actually matters. These people go around committing non-functional changes, which makes source management (and specifically patching and merging) really painful, and which, unfortunately, also often breaks things accidentally. What's worse is that somet [00:56]
asciilifeform imes they don't even bother trying to compile it, much less test it. I wish I was making this up; I wish more that I had made these people go away a long time ago.' [00:56]
asciilifeform ^ still alive & well and with us. [00:56]
mircea_popescu anyone who has this problem is an idiot of the same breath as the guy with a bitchy wife. [00:57]
mircea_popescu shoulda frowned her in time. [00:57]
BingoBoingo http://altoz.liberty.me/2015/03/17/why-ripple-is-the-enemy/ [01:00]
assbot Why Ripple is the Enemy - Bit Blogger ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ftk6YB ) [01:00]
asciilifeform obvious usg altcoin is obvious [01:02]
asciilifeform at least, afaik they're the readiest fit for the role. [01:02]
danielpbarron "She was pretty drunk so this speech was littered with lovely curse words and slurring." << did this interview take place in b-a or something? [01:05]
decimation asciilifeform: re: what to do about hardware < sell diy "mr. fuser" kit at costco? [01:11]
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BingoBoingo http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/2006/08/30/0016.html << lol "Speaking of which, there must be negative feedback to discourage people from breaking stuff. This has been a continual problem with certain "developers" for more than a decade." [01:15]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GORRSq ) [01:15]
danielpbarron basically saying they need to be more like the guy they kicked out [01:23]
BingoBoingo Not they, he [01:25]
decimation http://sputniknews.com/military/20150316/1019544767.html < ru mil 'conducting excercises' in eastern ru [01:33]
assbot Russia Starts Large-Scale Communications Drills in Nine Regions / Sputnik International ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fu2Ouw ) [01:33]
BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/kernelslacker/status/577636505239289856 [01:37]
assbot The advance warning for this OpenSSL bug can only mean one thing. There's going to be a dope logo for this bug on Thursday. [01:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 716 @ 0.01449993 = 10.3819 BTC [+] {2} [01:42]
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danielpbarron !up brendafdez [01:43]
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brendafdez nice i can haz voice. I was trying to use SASL authentication on hexchat, but for some reaosn it doesn't seem to work. Gave up, is very difficult, this irc stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG_tHmL2Oug [01:46]
assbot TÉVEZ - VERY DIFFICULT - BIEN SUBTITULADO ESPAÑOL INGLÉS - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fu4kgb ) [01:46]
mircea_popescu "As one of the 4 originators of NetBSD, I am in a fairly unique position." [01:46]
mircea_popescu math is hard. fourtique position ! [01:46]
mircea_popescu !gettrust brendafdez [01:46]
assbot brendafdez is not registered in WoT. [01:46]
mircea_popescu ^ do that. [01:46]
mircea_popescu sasl is for the birds. [01:47]
mircea_popescu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5SbHmZuRPU << sometimes the HORSE matador. [01:50]
assbot Corrida Nîmes - The Horse bite and kill the bull ! - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fu4LHr ) [01:50]
brendafdez ;;ident brendafdez [01:51]
gribble Nick 'brendafdez', with hostmask 'brendafdez!~brendafde@unaffiliated/brendafdez', is identified as user 'brendafdez', with GPG key id CE5BEE6C81FCA4D4, key fingerprint 59D8599B65A983BF0288E5B6CE5BEE6C81FCA4D4, and bitcoin address None [01:51]
mircea_popescu other 1. [01:54]
BingoBoingo !h [01:54]
assbot http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot [01:54]
BingoBoingo brendafdez: Assbot has its own way to authenticate use !register [01:58]
mircea_popescu "The existing NetBSD Foundation must be disbanded, and replaced with an organization that fulfills its original purpose: to merely handle administrative issues" [02:00]
mircea_popescu lol. imbecile "Foundation", a problem for every netbsd clone since day one. [02:00]
brendafdez !register 59D8599B65A983BF0288E5B6CE5BEE6C81FCA4D4 [02:00]
assbot Searching pgp.mit.edu for key with fingerprint: 59D8599B65A983BF0288E5B6CE5BEE6C81FCA4D4. This may take a few moments. [02:00]
assbot Key 81FCA4D4 / "Brenda Fernández " successfully imported. [02:00]
assbot Registration successful. [02:00]
brendafdez like so? [02:00]
mircea_popescu yes. [02:01]
mircea_popescu !rate brendafdez 1 New tits [02:02]
assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/eda46b0d1274e0b8 [02:02]
mircea_popescu !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.brendafdez.1:bd0936d5e7c2db1878ac7d3ac05fb79ac1087d9de8c7139108bbc564651c4aa1 [02:02]
assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for brendafdez with note: New tits [02:02]
mircea_popescu you voice yourself by pm ing assbot !up [02:02]
brendafdez wow (: [02:03]
BingoBoingo https://wiki.ripple.com/Freeze [02:05]
assbot Freeze - Ripple Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/18AjX8O ) [02:05]
BingoBoingo http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/10/06/heavily-armed-drug-cops-raid-retirees-garden-seize-okra-plants/ [02:09]
assbot Heavily armed drug cops raid retiree’s garden, seize okra plants - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fu78de ) [02:09]
ben_vulpes ;;later tell jurov http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-January/000034.html << why not a patch file for this? just to make me diff it myself? [02:11]
gribble The operation succeeded. [02:11]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/18AlcVN ) [02:11]
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ben_vulpes a brendafdez! [02:14]
mircea_popescu "The Cannabis Eradication programs have historically inflated the size of their hauls by including non-psychoactive "ditchweed" in their totals of plants seized. In past years, ditchweed accounted for up to 98 percent of seized outdoor plant totals." [02:14]
mircea_popescu epic. the usg, inflating EVERYTHING. [02:15]
mircea_popescu fake psychiatric patients. fake foster kids. fake homeless. fake pot captures, fake mit engineering degrees, fake currency [02:15]
mircea_popescu and im sure, fake orgasms. [02:15]
BingoBoingo ;;google US fake orgasm epidemic [02:19]
gribble The Orgasm Deficit - Cosmopolitan: ; The Under F**ked Pussy Epidemic (Every Woman Needs To Read ...: ; The infidelity epidemic: Never have marriage vows been under so ...: [02:19]
mircea_popescu heh. [02:21]
mircea_popescu they seriously misspelled fucking in the title of an article about cunt and fucking ? [02:22]
mircea_popescu here's an idea : if you're not comfortable spelling your topic, write about something else. [02:23]
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ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: "trip" << hilarious [02:54]
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mircea_popescu ha! thanks. [03:06]
brendafdez forgive the laziness to look it up, but the wot ratings entered with assbot end up showing on bitcoin-otc the same as they did back when one registered them with gribble, right? They get 'synced' after a while? [03:30]
BingoBoingo Whether they sync ever if I recall correctly is still a bit of a mystery [03:33]
brendafdez (: [03:39]
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mircea_popescu brendafdez well, there's some talks to get the two bots talking to each other, but they're proceeding glacially. [04:09]
mircea_popescu so far assbot keeps its own thing, you can curl query it, look in the wiki/logs for examples. [04:10]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63000 @ 0.00031387 = 19.7738 BTC [-] {3} [04:39]
brendafdez Trying to reach that promised land of inbox 0 i unearthed an old message saying i had shares waiting for me on registration at CipherTrade. Towards the end of 2013 during the bubble, i had purchased a number of shares of CipherMine, because the issuer, Kate of memset, was also trans, hot and into women, so they couldn't possibly be a bad choice. I boght 90 of the things at some 4 LTC each. Each LTC was some 10 dollars at the time. I [05:03]
brendafdez expected to at least find enough for a beer or a coffee if I registered, claimed and liquidated the position. [05:03]
brendafdez Was greeted with this instead: "There is no historical trading data available for this security You own 90 shares of a total of 110000 listed on CipherTrade Best ask rate: N/A Best bid rate: N/A" [05:03]
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fluffypony lol ciphertrade [05:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.0003116 = 5.5465 BTC [-] {2} [05:04]
fluffypony such a fail [05:04]
brendafdez At least the remaining 0.12 LTC which weren't enough to buy a full share are still there waiting. I see complains in the forum that withdrawals aren't being processed correctly, but it it goes through I might walk away almost with a full quarter [05:06]
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brendafdez such pain. I'd need another 10x bubble already to recover what I lost doing this kind of things, but this one seems to be running late. [05:09]
cazalla brendafdez you're a dude? [05:15]
fluffypony cazalla: I gather from the "also trans" comment above that she's an ex-dude [05:16]
* fluffypony has no idea how genders work anymore [05:17]
brendafdez yo http://i.imgur.com/5tSSg2D.jpg [05:17]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cowqc0 ) [05:17]
fluffypony hah hah [05:18]
cazalla brendafdez, ya don't really hold a candle to bailey jay but i guess you can pass [05:22]
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BingoBoingo !up indiancandy1 [05:24]
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brendafdez that's not me, i don't have a picture of myself in the mens room, but it was quite graphic. This is me for real: http://brendafernandez.com/aboutme/ and there are many many pictures in other places. Today Anon took the effort to out me in the Trilema comments. But I prefer to take that pleasure away from people and out myself beforehand. [05:25]
assbot About me | Brenda Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1CoxrR6 ) [05:25]
cazalla brendafdez, well you're not the first trans to come here, likely not even the second [05:27]
brendafdez So it was allinvain, I'm not getting the badge after all (? [05:28]
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indiancandy1 hi [05:30]
cazalla brendafdez, yeah, no badge for you, not sure where the other trans went, think he/she had drug problems or something, homeless too from memory [05:31]
cazalla indiancandy1, started camming yet? [05:32]
indiancandy1 when today [05:33]
cazalla when ever i guess [05:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41300 @ 0.00030906 = 12.7642 BTC [-] {2} [05:38]
brendafdez indiancandy1, i could introduce you to titsforbitcoin [05:39]
indiancandy1 introduce me [05:39]
indiancandy1 please [05:39]
indiancandy1 i thought mp was the only buyer [05:39]
indiancandy1 on tits 4 btc [05:39]
indiancandy1 is brenda a trans [05:39]
indiancandy1 hi brenda [05:40]
indiancandy1 im shanti dynaite [05:40]
indiancandy1 dynamite [05:40]
brendafdez awesome, pleased to meet you [05:40]
brendafdez it's not that hard just sign up here https://www.titsforbitcoin.com/modeljoin you need the Flash crap thing but you likely already have it [05:41]
assbot Model sign up - (t)it'sforbitcoin - Bitcoin cams. Live Bitcoin webcams. Watch and earn Bitcoin. Amateur girls on live cams accept Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cozfd6 ) [05:41]
cazalla indiancandy1, is that really you? [05:42]
brendafdez I'm not paying anyone to do this things, so maybe you're right that mp is the only paying (even then, it could be a very good idea...), I'm just doing because I want the ecosystem to grow [05:42]
brendafdez who? the one whose nick is the answer to your question? [05:42]
mircea_popescu an ecosystem eh ? [05:43]
fluffypony he said, nonchalantly [05:43]
mircea_popescu lol [05:43]
mircea_popescu you should do all my voiceovers! [05:43]
fluffypony hah hah [05:43]
indiancandy1 what do you mean [05:45]
indiancandy1 you want the ecosystem to grow [05:45]
indiancandy1 do you show your boobs for btc [05:45]
indiancandy1 ? [05:45]
brendafdez youst sign up already [05:45]
indiancandy1 its small time money [05:45]
brendafdez it's fun [05:45]
indiancandy1 what showing your breasts [05:45]
indiancandy1 is fun? [05:45]
indiancandy1 not when its a full time job [05:45]
indiancandy1 my whole life consists of showing breasts [05:46]
brendafdez my full time job is feeding the scammers... therefore, an ecosystem [05:46]
BingoBoingo !b 6 [05:47]
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indiancandy1 you feed scammers? [05:47]
indiancandy1 i dont get it [05:47]
indiancandy1 sorry :( [05:47]
indiancandy1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnYLTFta8L4 [05:48]
indiancandy1 thats me [05:48]
assbot Shanti Dynamite's Nude Yoga Stunt | Check Out - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1CoAc4Z ) [05:48]
BingoBoingo indiancandy1: Oh, you have a wikipedia page. Even MP's got deleted. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanti_Dynamite [05:50]
assbot Shanti Dynamite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1CoAybU ) [05:50]
indiancandy1 yea [05:51]
indiancandy1 im famous [05:51]
indiancandy1 and broke [05:51]
indiancandy1 ahaha [05:51]
indiancandy1 famous and broke [05:51]
indiancandy1 such is life [05:51]
indiancandy1 anyways im launching my adult site [05:51]
indiancandy1 soon [05:51]
cazalla damn half greek eh, i'm not a fan of woggy girs [05:51]
indiancandy1 to monetize [05:51]
indiancandy1 whats woggy? [05:51]
cazalla ;;ud wog [05:51]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=wog | By now it has greatly lost its sting, and many ethnic Australians have reclaimed it as a jocular term, with some cleverly riffing on it (e.g. 'clog wog' for a Dutchman, ... [05:51]
indiancandy1 for a dutchman [05:52]
indiancandy1 im not dutch [05:52]
cazalla nah, refer to aus english part, not british [05:52]
cazalla 1. a non-Anglo-Celtic European, esp. from Southern or Eastern Europe (e.g. Greek, Italian, Balkan, Slavic, etc.) [05:52]
indiancandy1 well [05:52]
indiancandy1 i dont care about your preference [05:53]
indiancandy1 to be honest [05:53]
indiancandy1 im not tryna fuck you so ,. [05:53]
indiancandy1 BANG [05:53]
fluffypony you're so cool [05:53]
fluffypony I wish I was as cool as you [05:53]
fluffypony with your hardcore IDGAF attitude [05:53]
fluffypony #swag #yolo [05:53]
cazalla #selfie [05:54]
Adlai ʏᴏʟᴏ [05:54]
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Adlai !up indiancandy1 [05:54]
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fluffypony 2L33T4ME [05:54]
indiancandy1 LOL [05:55]
indiancandy1 :P [05:55]
indiancandy1 #selfie [05:55]
indiancandy1 #belfie [05:55]
indiancandy1 anywaays [05:55]
indiancandy1 brenda [05:55]
brendafdez yes? [05:56]
indiancandy1 are you cashing in? [05:58]
indiancandy1 on the tits thing [05:58]
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brendafdez no, for me it was a very brief experiment. I only did it once, and made what at the time were some 8 dollars. Not bad for an hour of time or so. I didn't intend to cash in doing camshows, but I had several friends who did take it more seriously, and they made more money than they would have othrewise, for a very low effort, some customers just wanted to hear them talk. All this was a long time ago, I see less activity on the site th [06:01]
brendafdez ese days, but trying couldn't hurt. [06:01]
indiancandy1 i did it i made 60dollars for 1pic [06:02]
indiancandy1 but if you want to cam dont cam for btc there is not enough people that use btc for you to earn in cam [06:02]
indiancandy1 if you want to cam for money im sure you can earn also as your trans you fit into a niche try mfc ? [06:02]
indiancandy1 or even adultwork maybe best for you [06:03]
indiancandy1 you could earn 2 to 3 thousand dollars a month from home [06:03]
mircea_popescu re "Kate of memset" << o boy we did her here, i recall. [06:03]
mircea_popescu !s kate [06:03]
assbot 87 results for 'kate' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=kate [06:03]
brendafdez Also it youre on other websites like myfreecams, you can be on many at the same time. I don't want to cam, and if i did I would never market mysekf that way. I like aw. Ok, then if you earn that much great for you. [06:03]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/on-periphery-and-the-peripheral-ephemerides-are-also-mentioned/ etc [06:04]
assbot On periphery and the peripheral. Ephemerides are also mentioned. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bsy5b4 ) [06:04]
brendafdez Anyway, I wasn't asking for advisse on how to market myself on cam sites, i thought it was you :P [06:04]
mircea_popescu indiancandy1 dja make 2-3k ? [06:05]
indiancandy1 dja? [06:05]
mircea_popescu do you [06:05]
indiancandy1 i dont cam much [06:05]
brendafdez :D [06:05]
indiancandy1 i just came back from india didnt i [06:05]
indiancandy1 but before i did [06:05]
indiancandy1 when i did full time [06:05]
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indiancandy1 well not full time you kno what i mean [06:05]
indiancandy1 anyways im launching my site now and wil sell tease videos [06:06]
mircea_popescu orly ? [06:06]
indiancandy1 and i wanna monetize on utube also as i see this videos on utube of me [06:07]
mircea_popescu indiancandy1 you should talk to naphex if memory serves he was looking for models for a newsite. [06:07]
indiancandy1 having like 500k hits just for cleavage etc [06:07]
indiancandy1 where is he [06:07]
mircea_popescu ;;seen naphex [06:07]
gribble naphex was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 6 days, 2 hours, 17 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: o/ [06:07]
mircea_popescu well apparently he's disappeared o.O [06:07]
mircea_popescu probably getting fucked to death. [06:07]
indiancandy1 huh [06:07]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1054796 << http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/134654389322.png [06:09]
assbot Logged on 17-03-2015 08:04:27; brendafdez: such pain. I'd need another 10x bubble already to recover what I lost doing this kind of things, but this one seems to be running late. [06:09]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1CoCvoA ) [06:09]
mircea_popescu brendafdez so how did you get the idea you're really a dude ? [06:10]
indiancandy1 huh [06:10]
indiancandy1 i thought it was a male dressed as female [06:10]
mircea_popescu arguably. [06:10]
brendafdez dunno, they told me that i was male when they raised me, i thought they must know what they are saying... [06:11]
BingoBoingo !up Bagels7 [06:11]
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mircea_popescu oh im sorry. i meant to ask the other way. [06:12]
mircea_popescu shit's confusing. [06:12]
mircea_popescu so how did you get the idea you're really a broad ? [06:12]
indiancandy1 omg mircea [06:12]
brendafdez shit's confusing [06:12]
indiancandy1 i just remembered] [06:12]
mircea_popescu lol [06:12]
indiancandy1 you know the adult tv show i work in [06:12]
indiancandy1 basically they have a channel in romania [06:12]
mircea_popescu actually i don't, but go on. [06:12]
indiancandy1 and the woman who runs it has the same surnma as you [06:13]
indiancandy1 i was like i wonder if your related [06:13]
mircea_popescu haha, common enough. [06:13]
mircea_popescu sorta like patel. [06:13]
indiancandy1 ohh [06:13]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1054818 << actually i dun think i ever was there [06:15]
assbot Logged on 17-03-2015 08:34:55; indiancandy1: i thought mp was the only buyer [06:15]
indiancandy1 ? [06:15]
indiancandy1 i thought it was you [06:15]
mircea_popescu check it out, she's got a wiki page an' errything : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanti_Dynamite [06:15]
assbot Shanti Dynamite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1CoDm8S ) [06:15]
mircea_popescu you're the woman now, bitch! [06:15]
indiancandy1 sorry? [06:16]
indiancandy1 you lost me here baby [06:16]
mircea_popescu "She has been adjudged as one of the 50 Sexiest Woman of Asia by British Newspaper Eastern Eye." [06:16]
mircea_popescu indiancandy1 "you're the man now, dog" , aka ytmnd is this internet phenomenon [06:16]
BingoBoingo Also two movies coming out this year [06:16]
mircea_popescu in truth was big about the time you were 12. [06:16]
indiancandy1 no [06:17]
indiancandy1 thats bullshit [06:17]
indiancandy1 ahah no movies :( [06:17]
mircea_popescu "Parents divorced at age of 9 years, so Sofia and mother move to London, UK It was hard settling in London it was cold and completely different to Africa. Sofia grew up in North West London and South West London in Brixton Angel Town one of the roughest areas in London. Sofia got into gang culture as a teenager and left school at 16 to join a hair and beauty school. Sofia grew up in low class area and her mother was wo [06:17]
mircea_popescu rking as a nurse but then salary did not cover living costs." [06:17]
indiancandy1 why are you quoting my wiki page [06:17]
mircea_popescu check it out, she grew up rough in the streets of brixton! [06:17]
BingoBoingo indiancandy1: But IMDB said... [06:17]
indiancandy1 i signed for them [06:18]
mircea_popescu indiancandy1 i dunno, mildly interesting. [06:18]
indiancandy1 but i had problems with directors [06:18]
BingoBoingo Ah [06:18]
indiancandy1 so didnt end up shooting [06:18]
indiancandy1 so im back to being broke and famous [06:18]
indiancandy1 OL [06:18]
mircea_popescu wait, you didn't end up shooting or they didn't end shooting up ? [06:18]
indiancandy1 lol [06:18]
indiancandy1 we didnt start the film yo [06:19]
mircea_popescu aha. [06:19]
indiancandy1 yes dear [06:19]
indiancandy1 i filmed my twerk video alst week [06:20]
mircea_popescu any good ? [06:20]
indiancandy1 im waiting to see the end rsults its in post production [06:20]
indiancandy1 hope it goes viral [06:20]
mircea_popescu not unless you do something outright bizarre. [06:20]
indiancandy1 no in india [06:21]
indiancandy1 come on if you look at videos of my cleavage on utube hving 500k hits [06:21]
indiancandy1 indians are thirsty [06:21]
indiancandy1 and no indian has done twerk video before [06:21]
mircea_popescu ah, then it might catch. [06:21]
mircea_popescu it's so funny to me, all of east asia is pretty much one dick split up to two or even three men. india, right next to it... those dudes are reasonably hung. [06:22]
mircea_popescu i imagine sino-indian conflict over the state of the pussy is inevitable. [06:22]
indiancandy1 now i dont want to ask how or why you know that kind of ino [06:24]
indiancandy1 info** [06:24]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1054880 << said he, pensively. [06:24]
assbot Logged on 17-03-2015 08:48:46; fluffypony: I wish I was as cool as you [06:24]
fluffypony hah hah [06:24]
mircea_popescu indiancandy1 i have friends, they like to talk. [06:24]
indiancandy1 about cock [06:24]
indiancandy1 lovely [06:25]
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BingoBoingo !up indiancandy1 [06:25]
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mircea_popescu brendafdez: Not bad for an hour of time or so. << whadda ya do for a living anyway ? [06:25]
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indiancandy1 whose got instagram yo? [06:25]
mircea_popescu preppy kids, mostly. [06:26]
indiancandy1 LOL [06:26]
mircea_popescu speaking of india, http://41.media.tumblr.com/2902864e96efd3672927519344c4612b/tumblr_mp7j05z2jW1rrh4y4o1_1280.jpg [06:28]
brendafdez used to sell smuggled electronics. Then I thought I had money bc bitcoin, abandoned the former thing and pretended that I could succesfully work as a bitcoin broker, I made some good deals but all in all I was a very lame person in charge of my own business and it sucked. Now I realize I don't have money nor business, still a couple of bitcoins to go, but things aren't looking bright. Sucks. [06:28]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1CoEUzC ) [06:28]
mircea_popescu worst comes to worst, arbolito or something hm ? [06:30]
indiancandy1 used to sell smuggled electronics [06:30]
mircea_popescu indiancandy1 argentines are worse than indians, i think the only law respected here is the law of gravity. [06:30]
indiancandy1 can you bribe there? [06:33]
mircea_popescu sure. [06:33]
indiancandy1 like in india you can bribe cops with small money [06:33]
brendafdez where can't you? but yes, i bet we're really bad re:law [06:33]
BingoBoingo Sounds awesome [06:34]
brendafdez You can bribe a cop with fifty pesos here, like 4 dollars [06:34]
mircea_popescu well it also depends what you're having him do. [06:34]
brendafdez in this case it was for crossing a red light [06:34]
mircea_popescu sounds more like he was trying to hit on you. i think ~1mn people jaywalk each day [06:35]
BingoBoingo Here they'd beat you for a $50 bribe because insulting [06:35]
brendafdez i was with a friend, he sorted it out with the cop [06:36]
indiancandy1 where do you live brenda [06:36]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo it's really like old new york, no fucking body cares what the lights say. [06:36]
brendafdez buenos aires [06:36]
davout mircea_popescu: "sounds more like he was trying to hit on you. i think ~1mn people jaywalk each day" <<< massive understatement, unless you mean jaywalk and get fined for it [06:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48150 @ 0.00032276 = 15.5409 BTC [+] [06:37]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Ah. I'm also guessing there you don't get SWAT called for okra [06:37]
mircea_popescu davout no, just meant in caba [06:37]
brendafdez not jaywalking, he was driving a car [06:37]
davout ah [06:37]
BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats [06:39]
gribble Current Blocks: 347971 | Current Difficulty: 4.74275549506483E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 348767 | Next Difficulty In: 796 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 5 hours, 15 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 46579597406.5 | Estimated Percent Change: -1.7879 [06:40]
indiancandy1 mp is in bueno aires [06:40]
mircea_popescu so i heard. [06:41]
brendafdez most arbolitos work for a certain broker, i couldn't do that, I was my own market basically, i had money on btc-e and bitstamp and made there the trades i made with people here otc, like for instance, someone buys 5 btc, i buy 5 btc on bitstamp/btc-e, someone sells 2 btc i sell 2 btc. That was the theory, of course there was a spread and to me one year ago that soiunded like it could work, and sometimes it did, but there were many u [06:42]
brendafdez nplanned issues. Also form what arbolitos tell me, they can basically do the trade at 'the cave' basically at the same time if they don't have both buyer and seller, and they are running out of money on one end. But I couldn't do that, there were times when I would in fact run out of money in the exchanges and had trades which i took at my own risk, and that was a very bad thing. [06:42]
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mircea_popescu brendafdez this because you're in principle against being an employee ? [06:42]
brendafdez i am not [06:42]
mircea_popescu so then ? of course you work for someone. [06:43]
mircea_popescu that's how you learn to stop sucking at being your own boss, among other things [06:43]
mircea_popescu such as, how to give killer blowjobs. [06:43]
brendafdez maybe... [06:43]
indiancandy1 ahahah mp always have to include something naughty [06:43]
mircea_popescu indiancandy1 defo. it's the new world! raunchy an' rude. [06:44]
indiancandy1 lol [06:45]
indiancandy1 my nipple is in agony [06:45]
mircea_popescu send it off to shovel snow. [06:46]
indiancandy1 this peircing is such a ... dont even knw the word [06:47]
Adlai nagony! [06:48]
davout nipple piercing... thinking about it is already painful [06:52]
indiancandy1 yea but its been almost 1year [06:53]
indiancandy1 and the god damn thing aint healed yet [06:53]
davout do you to keep it that bad? [06:53]
davout *do you want to keep it that bad? [06:54]
brendafdez There was much less risk involved when I would sell shit, it was easier also, and besides I could bring many things via post shipments form DX, eBay and such (so I could many times spare the middle man), and it was just listing on MercadoLibre (local ebay equivalent), and most would sell, there wasn't much a way I could lose money, only it the thing didn't sell. I had to go and wait hours at customs, many times if the items weren't [06:54]
brendafdez expensive they would let me go without paying bc they had more interesting stuff going on with other people, i had to go to the post or bus station and make shippments. In hindsight those were the good times and doing it wasn't hard. Then I started dabbling with bitcoin, I had been reading the forums on and off since 2011, i was too stupid then [not that it has changed] and cpu solo mined, made nothing, didn't get the thing. Then I [06:54]
brendafdez bought some bitcoins via The Rock and VirWox with Linden Dollars, in the beggining of 2013, which was would seem a lucky move, but I wasn't able to do much with that. [06:54]
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assbot Idioms of Flare ... ( http://bit.ly/1CoIAl6 ) [06:55]
Adlai !up indiancandy1 [06:55]
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indiancandy1 shal i invest in btc [06:56]
* Adlai !upped you for that? [06:56]
brendafdez I had a couple of opportunities to work for/with someone else but they didn't seem like a good deal, for instance one of the local brokers who was then dealing even lower amounts than I was and who wasn't an intersting person, and had a past of dealing substances ("knew the street") offered to start a business together. I rejected the offer, it seemed more risky and not the kind of people I'd want ot be associated with [06:56]
davout didn't you just say you were broke? [06:56]
Adlai indiancandy1: as mircea_popescu loves to say, bitcoin is a priviledge for those who can afford to throw away some money. mostly because you'll find yourself incredibly averse to spending them, once you realize their value [06:57]
Adlai even if the value goes up, and saner voices suggest selling for a profit... you'll want it to go highir! [06:58]
indiancandy1 but i dont get the technical part though [06:58]
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Adlai which part of it? [06:58]
kakobrekla what room is this? [06:58]
Adlai (the technical side of bitcoin has several parts which solve different problems) [06:59]
Adlai kakobrekla: the sister advice to what i told indiancandy1 is that if you have any money to waste, waste it on btc :) [06:59]
indiancandy1 i do have money to waiste [06:59]
mircea_popescu Adlai incredibly averse < experientia docent ? :) [07:00]
indiancandy1 you should open a btc consultancy guys [07:00]
Adlai ja [07:00]
brendafdez either that or a rehab farm [07:00]
mircea_popescu and the god damn thing aint healed yet << nipple piercings are horribru for this reason. [07:00]
Adlai more like Assoholics Anonymous [07:01]
BingoBoingo !up cjc [07:01]
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kakobrekla im not anon [07:01]
BingoBoingo ^ [07:01]
cjc thx [07:01]
Adlai Asscoholics WoTonymous [07:02]
Adlai sorry, wotonimous [07:02]
mircea_popescu only noobs are anon [07:02]
Adlai (when in venice, spell as the roma do) [07:02]
mircea_popescu brendafdez it wouldn't be that fat derp what's his face [07:02]
indiancandy1 hahahaha [07:03]
indiancandy1 i feel like im kinda addicted to come here [07:03]
indiancandy1 as i have no work with btc [07:03]
brendafdez his face? [07:03]
mircea_popescu digicoins.io [07:04]
mircea_popescu dante something [07:04]
brendafdez can't confirm nor deny, not here at least. This offer happened in mid 2013, before the digicoins name was even invented :P [07:04]
mircea_popescu heh. [07:05]
mircea_popescu such a fucking derp. [07:05]
BingoBoingo indiancandy1: Could be worse. At least you aren't the start meth lab in the aisle at Walmart sort of addict. [07:05]
BingoBoingo ;;google walmart methlab trend [07:05]
gribble Meth lab uncovered inside restroom at Indiana Walmart | Fox 59: ; Meth lab found inside Walmart restroom in Indiana | WGN-TV: ; You Can Find Anything at Walmart ... Even a Meth Lab: (1 more message) [07:05]
indiancandy1 we dont have walmart here [07:05]
mircea_popescu it's asda all the way! [07:05]
indiancandy1 omg you know! [07:06]
mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/14705de95fdc4ce07244e95aea28981f/tumblr_n0yzsaTPDe1s0yaxoo1_1280.jpg << this is how walmart looks in yurp [07:06]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GQ9Nfz ) [07:06]
indiancandy1 im not into drugs [07:07]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform btw re pheasant phuckers : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIu4fP4fOHE [07:07]
mircea_popescu indiancandy1 how come ? [07:07]
assbot Pinky and the Brain, Tongue Twister - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1GQa2av ) [07:07]
indiancandy1 i prefer life sover [07:08]
indiancandy1 sober [07:08]
indiancandy1 i bet you get good cocaine in argentina [07:08]
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brendafdez there's potential for regret about the things i'm saying here. Shit could end up hitting the fan, like it did with the cam thing. [07:08]
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mircea_popescu indiancandy1 so i hear. [07:09]
mircea_popescu brendafdez errything's logged. [07:09]
brendafdez yep [07:09]
indiancandy1 do you dabble? [07:09]
mircea_popescu nah [07:09]
mircea_popescu im too rich to do drugs. [07:09]
brendafdez when will we have an oficial b-a miranda warning? [07:10]
indiancandy1 not quite [07:10]
indiancandy1 most rich people do drugs [07:10]
indiancandy1 maybe rich in life :) [07:10]
mircea_popescu nah. that's poor people trying to see what it's like. [07:10]
indiancandy1 to happy to need it [07:10]
indiancandy1 im rich in life [07:10]
indiancandy1 to do drugs [07:11]
mircea_popescu tits ? [07:11]
BingoBoingo The drugs thing and the bitcoin thing especially don't mix well [07:11]
cjc I surmised the ancient Egyptians had monoatomic gold which they snorted and ate -- [07:11]
cjc and it increased the electromagnetic conductivity of their body system by 10,000 percent [07:11]
cjc that must have been like a drug [07:11]
cjc building the pyramids with their minds [07:11]
mircea_popescu o.O [07:11]
mircea_popescu superconducting pharoh. [07:12]
cjc yeah, monoatomic gold is a white powder not a metal [07:12]
* mircea_popescu looks through the logs, sees two womenz going "omfg you know" about wildly unrelated shit within the next 10 minutes [07:13]
* mircea_popescu figures he's getting a good deal on that intel dept. [07:13]
brendafdez ;) [07:14]
Adlai brendafdez: we call it the robert paulsen effect [07:14]
Adlai !s robert [07:14]
assbot 106 results for 'robert' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=robert [07:14]
mircea_popescu i thoughjt it was the hungarian spammer effect, robert vigh or w/e it was [07:15]
Adlai ;;google robert paulsen [07:15]
gribble Rob Paulsen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; His Name is Robert Paulson - YouTube: ; Rob Paulsen - IMDb: [07:15]
Adlai youtube fixed my typo [07:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 97300 @ 0.00032713 = 31.8297 BTC [+] {4} [07:17]
Adlai hah search.b-a is 3rd on google results for his name [07:17]
mircea_popescu !s robert viragh [07:17]
assbot 9 results for 'robert viragh' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=robert+viragh [07:17]
brendafdez i always think being the intel asset is a bad deal, for said asset that it. There always comes a point in which using that information is worth more than keeping the source. [07:17]
mircea_popescu this is an argument similar to "there always comes a point when a trusted party runs with the money" [07:17]
mircea_popescu this is not actually how life works. [07:18]
brendafdez thanks for pointing it out [07:18]
Adlai no, this is actually how cancer works [07:18]
mircea_popescu quite [07:18]
mircea_popescu for that matter, people who think in simple money terms end up outsourcing their industrial base to china and then wondering where the country went. [07:19]
mircea_popescu water is perhaps the best example of strict local optimizer. the water in your cup, much like the water in the hydroplant lake, would very much like to go lower, however... for lack of a direct path, there it stays. [07:20]
mircea_popescu easy to manipulate, easy to defeat. poor strat. [07:20]
Adlai water doesn't have a 'strategy' though, same way that corn didn't plan to enslave monkeys to grow more of it [07:22]
mircea_popescu well, it could be deemed to have a strategy , reducing to "pursue the shortest term maximal gain" [07:22]
mircea_popescu obviously this is not philosophically correct, but for our purpose here imo sufficient [07:24]
Adlai this is reducing the word 'strategy' to the same level as 'mobile strategy', 'social strategy', 'cloud strategy', etc [07:24]
mircea_popescu right [07:25]
mircea_popescu but this reduction is adequate given what's being contemplated here. [07:25]
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cazalla http://www.xvideos.com/video6597817/shanti_sofia_redlightcentral_10.12.2013 [07:28]
assbot Shanti Sofia RedLightCentral 10.12.2013 - XVIDEOS.COM ... ( http://bit.ly/1GQf9HC ) [07:28]
brendafdez youtube-dl was the key to finally going flash-free, such a handy tool [07:29]
mircea_popescu cazalla anything good ? [07:30]
cazalla doesn't even remove knickers.. [07:30]
cazalla such a tease, but never delivers the goods [07:31]
cazalla don't mind the darker areola, but that's on account pinks are in oversupply down under [07:32]
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mircea_popescu isn't it unpatriotic to rub it to unenglish roses ?! [07:32]
mircea_popescu what'd the queen say! [07:32]
cazalla sif she hasn't had her way with the nigro garden over the years [07:33]
cazalla gardener even [07:33]
mircea_popescu ;;ud sif [07:33]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SIF | The SIF is quite adept at hiding his or her fat on the Internet. Usually a LiveJournal or MySpace user, they use Photoshop, high-constrast photos, and strategic ... [07:33]
mircea_popescu hm [07:33]
cazalla sif = as if [07:34]
cazalla perhaps australian thing, sif i'd know [07:34]
brendafdez cazalla, are you the guy i should contact if i want to steal from qntra? [07:36]
cazalla steal what? content? [07:36]
brendafdez yep :P [07:37]
brendafdez I've been translating a couple of articles http://brendafernandez.com/?s=qntra just three of them, not the press release with the cat poooping, for sure [07:37]
assbot qntra | Search Results | Brenda Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1GQgOgi ) [07:37]
cazalla i would rather you didn't, but i'm not the type to play whack a mole by sending dmca takedowns [07:37]
brendafdez ok, just that, then i won't do it [07:37]
brendafdez just those three [07:38]
cazalla if you stick around, there is no reason why you couldn't write for qntra itself [07:38]
brendafdez but i like writing in spanish [07:38]
brendafdez if there aren't many sane voices in the english bitcoin space, imagine what it's like in spanish-land [07:39]
cazalla that's ok, perhaps we set you up as the spanish correspondent [07:39]
mircea_popescu it's a news site tho. i dun see it'd damage anything if she translates to spanish, provided something reasonable like say articles are a week old. [07:40]
Adlai there is also no reason why qntra qldn't issue shares for translations [07:40]
brendafdez so, qntra translations seemed cool :P, i atributed them, of course, but i know that's technically not enough [07:40]
cazalla mircea_popescu, i thought she meant copy/pasta word for word, english to spanish, i wouldn't have known unless she said so anyway [07:40]
mircea_popescu well if it's english to spanish it's necessarily not word for word, they use different words en castellan [07:41]
Adlai why not have language sections on qntra, with some lesser share issuence for translations? [07:41]
mircea_popescu Adlai because of the can of worms that "lesser share" opens [07:41]
cazalla if qntra were to ever publish in another language, chinesey and spanish would be the top 2 imo [07:42]
mircea_popescu prolly, yea [07:42]
mircea_popescu it is a huge language space, even if atm bitcoin poor. [07:42]
Adlai the only can opener in town belongs to qntra's editor in chief [07:42]
mircea_popescu Adlai nah, this is equity. [07:43]
Adlai ok, to the board, and they can put it to shareholder vote [07:43]
Adlai 3.2e [07:43]
cazalla brendafdez, anyway i only ask you refrain from reposting english articles, if you wish to translate ones to spanish, go for it but as mircea_popescu, perhaps give our own articles some time before doing so [07:43]
mircea_popescu shares don't vote, but anyway. [07:43]
Adlai http://mpex.ws/?mpsic=S.QNTR 3.2e ! [07:43]
assbot S.QNTR last 9477@0.00021105 ... ( http://bit.ly/1CqVdxC ) [07:43]
mircea_popescu (e) S.QNTR shares do not have voting rights. ? [07:44]
cazalla as he said i meant to say (i'm tired) [07:44]
* Adlai is baffled by this discouragement of widening the audience [07:44]
mircea_popescu how's anything discouraged! [07:45]
cazalla hardly discouraged, a writer would earn a good amount of s.qntr translating our english articles [07:48]
mircea_popescu yeah, brendafdez why not do it directly for qntra ? you got a gpg id now and errything [07:49]
mircea_popescu cazalla does she get half share for translation or what ? [07:49]
cazalla indiancandy1, looks like you were upstaged by another indian named baby doll? http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1c7hx6_baby-doll-is-a-copy-of-shanti-dynamite_shortfilms [07:49]
assbot BABY Doll is a Copy of Shanti Dynamite - Video Dailymotion ... ( http://bit.ly/1GQjsCZ ) [07:49]
cazalla mircea_popescu, to be discussed i guess [07:50]
brendafdez doing it directly for qntra would certainly be even better than just having permission to keep doing it on my own [07:50]
mircea_popescu brendafdez for that matter, you're fluent enough in english, can write news in english too [07:51]
mircea_popescu iirc cazalla was always short hands [07:51]
brendafdez but i don't like english ;) just wait until I've spent a few more btc and then I'll take anything :D [07:51]
cazalla bwahaa "The hot and sensuous Playboy host Shanti Dynamite has become the first Indian to get her nipples pierced and has thus created history." [07:52]
mircea_popescu last guy that liked english lived in like 1890 [07:52]
mircea_popescu is that even true indiancandy1 ?! [07:52]
mircea_popescu i thought india fucking invented piercing, spread to arabs from there. [07:52]
cazalla http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1x96xc_shanti-dynamite-s-painful-piercing-exclusive-coverage_news [07:53]
assbot Shanti Dynamite's Painful Piercing - Exclusive Coverage - Video Dailymotion ... ( http://bit.ly/1GQk4bL ) [07:53]
indiancandy1 wasim shower [07:53]
indiancandy1 was in shower [07:53]
indiancandy1 what happened [07:53]
mircea_popescu there's worse places. [07:53]
indiancandy1 lol [07:53]
mircea_popescu indiancandy1 so are you earning 0.1 btc with your tits that made history yet ? [07:54]
indiancandy1 whats 0.1 [07:55]
mircea_popescu i dunno, like 30 bux [07:55]
indiancandy1 i make more babes [07:55]
indiancandy1 come on [07:55]
mircea_popescu aww [07:56]
mircea_popescu i guess gotta wait for btc to go up moar. [07:56]
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mircea_popescu !up indiancandy1 [07:56]
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indiancandy1 i dont use btc [07:57]
indiancandy1 for work [07:57]
Adlai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1055074 << https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-w7SnQWwVA [07:57]
assbot Logged on 17-03-2015 09:53:29; indiancandy1: but i dont get the technical part though [07:57]
assbot Bitcoin - Overview - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1GQl2EK ) [07:57]
indiancandy1 i mean like if i buy bitcoin [07:59]
indiancandy1 i gota constantly watch it and stuff i dont even know how to count just about [08:00]
indiancandy1 so if i cant count normal numbers cant surely cant btc [08:00]
mircea_popescu you don;'t have to watch it, think of it as your retirement. [08:00]
mircea_popescu what you gonna do when you're old ? [08:00]
indiancandy1 no clue [08:00]
cazalla she's gonna be a young starlet forever! [08:00]
indiancandy1 ahaha never [08:00]
mircea_popescu lol [08:00]
Adlai well, you do need to watch out that you don't use bad security practices; the equivalent of not leaving wads of cash lying around in a busy restaurant when you go to the bathroom [08:01]
indiancandy1 this guy who has a tv show on sahara 1 called kismat connections [08:01]
indiancandy1 basically a fotune teller type neurology fellow [08:01]
mircea_popescu indiancandy1 lemme show you something. http://trilema.com/2013/various-kinds-of-stickiness/#comment-112932 << bunch of dumb cocksuckers on a stripper forum were offered 1 btc free in 2012, wouldn't take it. was >1000 dollars. [08:01]
indiancandy1 told me i will have to overcome major obstacles but i will be succesful [08:01]
assbot Various kinds of stickiness pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CqXrwO ) [08:01]
Adlai but if you've used good security initially, you don't need to "watch over" your bitcoin [08:01]
brendafdez https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYSEwwOt_ic [08:01]
assbot No One Understands Bitcoins [Garlic Jackson Comedy] - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1CqXtVy ) [08:01]
mircea_popescu today's 0.1 btc may well be a fortune in a few years. [08:01]
Adlai brendafdez: hey now, i linked the 10min khanacademy, not the five-hours-and-counting princeton lectures [08:02]
indiancandy1 the girls vagina on the left looks like a donner kebab [08:02]
indiancandy1 to much meat going on [08:02]
brendafdez (: [08:02]
cazalla i don't mind that indiancandy1 :) [08:02]
indiancandy1 mircea you look like lincoln [08:02]
indiancandy1 in ur pic [08:02]
cazalla media might have you believe its men pushing women into labiaplasty but there you go, proof positive it's other bitches [08:03]
indiancandy1 i read something about a 13 yr old not being laid [08:03]
indiancandy1 wtf who condones such shit [08:03]
mircea_popescu indiancandy1 i was going more for lenin [08:04]
indiancandy1 it has a flower [08:04]
indiancandy1 growing in between her legs [08:04]
indiancandy1 creature [08:04]
indiancandy1 growler [08:04]
indiancandy1 O GOD [08:04]
mircea_popescu you been showering in whiskey hon ? [08:04]
cazalla just the thought eh BingoBoingo [08:05]
mircea_popescu cazalla try it sometime, drink champagne offa da twists. [08:05]
cazalla ;;ud twists [08:06]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=twist | twist. a derogatory term used for someone who gets their kicks by playing mind games or toys with people's hearts. So she lead me on and then told me she was  ... [08:06]
mircea_popescu nah, irish for chick. like bird, ride is english for same. [08:06]
cazalla akay [08:06]
indiancandy1 lmao [08:06]
indiancandy1 i like ur dress sense mp [08:06]
mircea_popescu and ironically, cunt = guy. [08:06]
mircea_popescu why ty. [08:06]
indiancandy1 cunt means pussy [08:06]
mircea_popescu nah. [08:07]
cazalla mircea_popescu, yeah we use cunt here often [08:07]
mircea_popescu ;;google bigby was a hard cunt, but he wasn;t hard enough he didn't shit it at the thought of 20 years in gaol. [08:07]
gribble Trainspotting (1996) - Quotes - IMDb: ; Previously On: The Wolf Among Us - "Cry Wolf" - Giant Bomb: ; To all the people who shot ***** - Telltale Community - Telltale Games: (1 more message) [08:07]
cazalla hence http://www.quickmeme.com/img/df/df1550588e4f322cdd9de8ab8c8d942f3616c06ab06764d7219734294389450b.jpg [08:07]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1GQn7kf ) [08:07]
davout cazalla: lol [08:08]
davout such downunderness [08:08]
indiancandy1 mp you should invest in me [08:08]
indiancandy1 :) [08:08]
cazalla apparently cunt is quite offensive in the us [08:08]
indiancandy1 btw did you watch 50shades [08:08]
mircea_popescu but your best assets are goingdown not up. [08:08]
mircea_popescu nah. [08:09]
indiancandy1 aahahah [08:09]
indiancandy1 u got jokes [08:10]
mircea_popescu :) [08:10]
mircea_popescu cazalla only to pussies. [08:10]
indiancandy1 cunt is very british [08:11]
indiancandy1 word [08:11]
mircea_popescu alrighty cuties, i'll be off to go watch 50 shades of gray live. [08:12]
indiancandy1 ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [08:12]
indiancandy1 where my invite [08:12]
indiancandy1 take pics [08:12]
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Adlai the ones that ran - velocipator, orinthomimus - weren't larger than say a stallion [15:57]
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mircea_popescu ^ [15:58]
mircea_popescu and for good reason, too. [15:58]
mircea_popescu mostly to do with cooling. [15:58]
pete_dushenski ya, i don't suppose dinos sweated [15:59]
mircea_popescu nope. reptiles generally work on the principle of the wound spring in more than one respect. [16:01]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform ironically enough, i consider myself cultural elites. cause if not that, wtf else. [16:01]
mircea_popescu i get it that everyone everywhere, say the derps on argentina, or the derps on the internet exactly alike and exactly for the same reasons identifies as this "workman" bullshit. [16:02]
mircea_popescu but for one thing it's bullshit and for the other thing, it doesn't really wash. [16:02]
pete_dushenski reptiles: springs, mammals: internal combustion [16:02]
mircea_popescu workable analogy imo. [16:02]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: what's your take on this "foster's rule" thing ? [16:03]
mircea_popescu seems to fit the data. [16:03]
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pete_dushenski hm ok, i'll take [16:05]
pete_dushenski "Compliance startup Chainalysis was forced to defend itself today after allegations its surveillance tactics had disrupted services and threatened the privacy of bitcoin users. [16:05]
pete_dushenski The Swiss company, headed by ex-Kraken COO Michael Grønager and former Mycelium engineer Jan Møller, created over 250 'false' bitcoin nodes to harvest information on the whereabouts of transactions. The firm claims these nodes have now been shut down." [16:05]
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mircea_popescu heh. [16:05]
pete_dushenski ^cazalla BingoBoingo thestringpuller [16:05]
mircea_popescu "we got better at hiding them nao" [16:06]
pete_dushenski https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=978088.msg10771025#msg10771025 [16:06]
assbot Is someone monitoring large parts of the network? (evidence+firwall rules) ... ( http://bit.ly/1LpyBl9 ) [16:06]
mircea_popescu really there was absolutely no reason (apart from their tim swansonesque contemptuous idiocy) to make the nodes visible. [16:06]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform : "It so happened that my aunt, then a sensitive and somewhat dreamy young woman, had stubbornly and haplessly clung to certain musical tastes which at that time in China came to be regarded as politically incorrect, being said, in the trendy ideological jargon of that time, to reflect “decadent bourgeois revisionist aesthetics.” To wit, my aunt had kept in her record collection a rendition of “The [16:06]
mircea_popescu Urals Mountain-Ash” (Уральская Рябинушка), a Russian folk song in which a young girl meets two nice boys under a mountain-ash tree and must choose between them" [16:06]
mircea_popescu i agree with the chinese. the part where the young girl chooses is utterly burgeois, and the part where a choice is made is definitely reactionary. [16:07]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: have nodes always been "visible" ? [16:09]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski not the point. the point is that if you make a spy node, you have no conceivable reason to make it act outwardly in any way other than a common node. [16:09]
mircea_popescu these were fucking broken, mostly because the "Swiss company" is a bunch of poor ass niggards with delusions of grandeur. [16:10]
mircea_popescu "in 1972, which culminated in Nixon's historic handshake with Mao Zedong, completing China's civilizational pivot away from the USSR and toward the west. In hindsight, this dramatic opening could only be properly characterized as a swift dagger-in-the-back against the USSR" [16:10]
mircea_popescu motherfucker, these ignorant clods. asciilifeform srsly, cluborlov is this collection of almanach-educated twerps. [16:11]
nubbins` niggards! [16:11]
nubbins` that's more germanic of you than usual [16:11]
mircea_popescu ;;google niggardly [16:11]
gribble Controversies about the word "niggardly" - Wikipedia, the free ...: ; Urban Dictionary: niggardly: ; Niggardly - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster ...: [16:12]
mircea_popescu i guess swedish counts as german. [16:12]
pete_dushenski such controversy [16:12]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski no but it is typical of what i'm talking about. [16:12]
mircea_popescu some people who don't own a dictionary got opinions about the usage of words. [16:12]
mircea_popescu some people who don't own a history book gather on a blogspot to emit nonsense. [16:12]
mircea_popescu same principle. [16:13]
pete_dushenski likewise, some people who don't own a bitcoin gather around a reddit to imagine they matter [16:13]
mircea_popescu and on and on and fucking on it goes! [16:13]
nubbins` again: [16:14]
nubbins` http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2z8j78/i_introduced_bitcoin_to_a_room_full_of_people_and/ [16:14]
mircea_popescu virgins experts in dating, dependent adolescents experts in "making money", otakus writing books on how to meet and influence people, etc etc etc. [16:14]
pete_dushenski only the cultists see the light eh [16:14]
assbot I introduced Bitcoin to a room full of people and was applauded : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1LpCdnn ) [16:14]
pete_dushenski nubbins`: once was enough [16:14]
nubbins` nevermind that this is not evidence of the awesomeness of bitcoin, but of the fact that the audience was at least feigning politeness [16:14]
Adlai mircea_popescu: what's your take on this "what's your take" thing? [16:14]
mircea_popescu nubbins` clearly if he was applauded by a whole roomfull of people he's not a total failure. [16:15]
nubbins` right? [16:15]
nubbins` ultimate validation [16:15]
mircea_popescu Adlai i dunno. [16:15]
nubbins` he probably took a bow [16:15]
mircea_popescu nubbins` i once took a girl out to the very nice theatre in my home town, 1800s baroque building, and we sat in the presidential seats and at some point i started applauding [16:16]
mircea_popescu and the whole fucking hall started applauding [16:16]
mircea_popescu she was... a little unraveled. [16:16]
mircea_popescu (tru story, too) [16:16]
mircea_popescu but it was a coincidence. [16:16]
nubbins` not bad [16:17]
Adlai dev behind popular open-source-closed-dev spv wallet is also behind a sybil attack to correlate transactions with jurisdictions... so that's why local trader is so cheap! [16:17]
nubbins` i started a slow-clap once that spread to about 7k people [16:17]
mircea_popescu Adlai heh. [16:17]
mircea_popescu nubbins` it's infectious, right ? [16:18]
nubbins` nod [16:18]
nubbins` esp. if you look around and nod while you're doing it [16:18]
Adlai was the theater clap not at a typical claptime? [16:18]
mircea_popescu these weren't even 1k, and romanians are very herdy animals, and were more so back then. [16:18]
mircea_popescu Adlai was not. [16:18]
mircea_popescu so i'm having cognac and chocolate cookies for breakfast at 3pm. this can't be bad for me, can it ? [16:19]
Adlai doesn't have to be 'coincidence' though, could just be that you reacted fastest out of all the clappy folk, giving the illusion of causality/coincidence [16:19]
Adlai long as the choclate's dark [16:19]
mircea_popescu Adlai the bit was to my taste, which is why i clapped. my tastes are rather... odd, but i guess it's possibru. [16:20]
mircea_popescu it is, yes. [16:20]
mircea_popescu brendafdez: the same happens to me with portuguese, which i walways perceive as broken spanish << to me it sounds like a bunch of russians trying to pretend they're speaking latin. [16:27]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1055359 << lol @ the problems this dude has. [16:29]
assbot Logged on 17-03-2015 14:03:07; chetty: I'm more if it isn't broke, why fix it kind of guy.// more of these needed in the world [16:29]
mircea_popescu "Citizens ask for permission, expats ask for forgiveness" << maybe he should ask for a nailgun. [16:30]
Adlai I Asked For A Railgun But All I Got Was This Northop-Grumman T-Shirt [16:31]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1055381 << check it out, we fixed an apple fanboi! [16:32]
assbot Logged on 17-03-2015 14:46:42; nubbins`: i got bogged down last night trying to cross-compile arch linux for the pogo. osx is no fun [16:32]
nubbins` hey now [16:32]
mircea_popescu next we're gonna be fixing fags and jews. [16:32]
nubbins` watch who you're calling a fanboi! [16:32]
mircea_popescu #bitcoin-aryan [16:32]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1055382 << having never looked at those, what % would you say are deliberate / marketing dept induced, and what % are inept / engineering dept induced ? [16:33]
assbot Logged on 17-03-2015 14:47:01; nubbins`: well. resolving clang/gcc incompatibilities is no fun [16:33]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1055388 << and your excuse would be that it's perl anyway, right ? :D [16:34]
assbot Logged on 17-03-2015 14:50:43; mod6: i have this idea in my mind that people know what stuff is i guess. [16:34]
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mircea_popescu !up ascii_field [16:39]
-assbot- You voiced ascii_field for 30 minutes. [16:39]
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Adlai aryan humor: cd /usr && ln -s usr ich [16:39]
mircea_popescu ;p; [16:39]
Adlai er shit, s/usr// [16:39]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: hall started applauding << did it come with a built-in 'stop clap bell' ? [16:40]
ascii_field (iirc stalin's courtiers invented these) [16:40]
mircea_popescu lol nope. i am aware i sound more and more hruschev-ian, but no, i didn't have a bunch of muscle with clubs interspersed in the general public. [16:41]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: ...or the derps on the internet exactly alike and exactly for the same reasons identifies as this "workman" bullshit << wai wat. confused [16:42]
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ascii_field if you make a spy node, you have no conceivable reason to make it act outwardly in any way other than a common node << that this was a secret to anyone, is profoundly mindfucking [16:42]
mircea_popescu ascii_field what is "Are ‘we’—the Americans I have lived and studied and worked with for years" and "who once made a living hell out of our fresh, green and naïve college days" iuf not direct translation of "we the workers" ? [16:43]
Adlai the whole security model of bitcoin is that every node is a spy node [16:43]
ascii_field that it was detectable suggests an intimidation play - 'we're watching' - rather than actual intent to grab useful info [16:43]
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Adlai !s malice incompetence [16:43]
assbot 19 results for 'malice incompetence' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=malice+incompetence [16:43]
mircea_popescu ascii_field it is not a secret to anyone except the completely imbecile "experts" the usg has historically and continues to "use" in it's quest to build itself as a bitcoin power independent from mpex. [16:43]
mircea_popescu so far this is progressing admirably. [16:44]
mircea_popescu Adlai you don't say. [16:44]
mircea_popescu ascii_field no dude, it's a simple, 5 yo would want to pretend she's a sophisticated college student like her old sister, so she does the best she can. [16:44]
mircea_popescu in this case, she's reading das kaptial held upside down. [16:45]
ascii_field latipak sad. [16:45]
mircea_popescu that's the la hockey team right ? [16:46]
ascii_field these schmucks could have hired a kid who handles, e.g., botnets, for a fraction of the cost [16:46]
ascii_field or a starving maths grad student, same [16:47]
ascii_field and, imho, bitcoin doesn't 'really work' unless it can laugh off everybody on the planet doing the sibyl crap all day, every day [16:48]
mircea_popescu ascii_field you miss the point where they do not wish to do that, for exactly the reasons i will not hire tim swanson. [16:48]
mircea_popescu and there are no uppity white kids in stanford running botnets [16:48]
mircea_popescu so they're stuck. [16:49]
ascii_field well yes, 'aryans only' [16:49]
mircea_popescu well so then. [16:49]
mircea_popescu if they don't let THEIR boys rape and i do, when it comes to war my boys will rape their boys and that's that. [16:49]
ascii_field but they could conceivably build a sharashka [16:49]
ascii_field for 'untermenschen' to toil, uncredited, in [16:49]
mircea_popescu but i appreciate the opportunity to check this out experimentally - gangrape is fun for a majority of those involved. [16:49]
mircea_popescu they could, if they had a stalin. [16:49]
mircea_popescu they don't have a stalin. [16:49]
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mircea_popescu in fact, they don't even have the vague approximation of a stalin where a guy says to his golddigger harpy "if you fuck another black man i'm going tyo hung you both by your toes, and if you struggle i won't let you go", and then does it when she fucks another black guy. [16:51]
mircea_popescu they don't have as much of a stalin as a uni professor that goes " all women, stand up and strip naked or go the fuck home". [16:51]
mircea_popescu etc. [16:51]
mircea_popescu this is a very small amount of stalin to not have. [16:51]
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ascii_field how am i to know that, e.g., dick cheney, isn't hunting little gurlz for sport in arizona desert as we speak ? [16:53]
ascii_field or hanging his mistress by the toe [16:53]
mircea_popescu orly. [16:53]
mircea_popescu are you just pursuing this for the sake of the theoretical purity or do you actually hold this view ? [16:53]
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ascii_field just confessing that it isn't clear to me that such a thing is impossible or even improbable [16:53]
ascii_field but i've no intel. team, yes. [16:54]
BingoBoingo are you just pursuing this for the sake of the theoretical purity or do you actually hold this view ? << Well Cheney did have a good humor about shooting his patron in the face [16:54]
mircea_popescu (the first cvasi-stalin is, of course, Donald Sterling. the second is, of course, that guy with the "women in scinece" what's his name. i'm noteven going into the story of petreus) [16:55]
* ascii_field distinctly recalls mircea_popescu's 'he is not lizardhitler who does his hitlering in private only' [16:56]
mircea_popescu right ? [16:56]
ascii_field but as i gather, the usg-elite consciously walks this line - unlimited debauchery in private, idiot paper-pushing in public [16:57]
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mircea_popescu bs. [16:57]
mircea_popescu what, exactly, is this debauchery ? [16:57]
mircea_popescu like, you ever drove by the walled compound where some general is keeping his harem ? [16:58]
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mircea_popescu no, brunei and saudi arabia elite walks this line. [16:58]
mircea_popescu the us is a bunch of impoverished derps with airs. [16:58]
mircea_popescu "oh, the luxury of paying 48658609485609850 for a condo." [16:58]
mircea_popescu "yeah, well done." [16:58]
* ascii_field underscores that he does not know anything re: how ted turner of w. buffett pass their time, or did when young men - but has quasi-educated guess that may or may not be worth the neurons it's printed on [16:58]
mircea_popescu you know plenty of how wb passed / passes his time, he's quite public about it. [16:59]
mircea_popescu indescript house in omaha, married, with children. about as boring as it gets. [16:59]
mircea_popescu nttawwi, on the grounds of one man, he can do w/e the fuck he pleases. [16:59]
mircea_popescu but, again, how many walled compounds are in wash dc holding the harems of obama, the shah of this and the bey of that ? [16:59]
ascii_field but what kind of lizard aristocrat is that. pssh. [16:59]
mircea_popescu visit brunei sometime, for srsly. [16:59]
mircea_popescu preferably take a girl with you, can prolly get a decent price. [17:00]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: actually there are tremendously posh residences, complete with tall walls, here - ones which would not look entirely out of place in brunei [17:00]
mircea_popescu you're eliding my main point. [17:00]
mircea_popescu else what, the world government is in gizeh, egypt ? poshest uninhabited structures on earth ? [17:00]
ascii_field so mircea_popescu tells us that total brezhnevification in usa ? the aristos sit & nervously smoke all day, and nurse their arthritis ? [17:02]
mircea_popescu it is my understanding. [17:02]
BingoBoingo Doesn't seem wrong [17:02]
mircea_popescu the people who try to have a good time are generally 2nd or 3rd echelon, [17:02]
mircea_popescu and in fact it goes as far as to work for a sign. does he look like he's having a good time ? he has no power. [17:02]
mircea_popescu which is a large part of what's so confounding about yours truly, in those quarters. [17:03]
mircea_popescu schroedinger mp. [17:03]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1055427 << hey, great piece. congrats to the winners. [17:04]
assbot Logged on 17-03-2015 15:55:40; nubbins`: hay look mircea_popescu got paraphrased [17:04]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: recall limonov's piece re: herr gadaffi ? [17:04]
ascii_field it was about entirely this [17:04]
mircea_popescu i guess so. [17:04]
nubbins` <+mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1055382 << having never looked at those, what % would you say are deliberate / marketing dept induced, and what % are inept / engineering dept induced ? <<< on the surface, it's just shirt buttons on the left side vs the right. [17:05]
assbot Logged on 17-03-2015 14:47:01; nubbins`: well. resolving clang/gcc incompatibilities is no fun [17:05]
mircea_popescu aha [17:05]
nubbins` i.e. places where there's wiggle room in the spec, one zigs where the other zags [17:05]
ascii_field !s llvm [17:05]
assbot 34 results for 'llvm' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=llvm [17:05]
ascii_field ^ some good material in log re: how and why it came to exist at all [17:06]
mircea_popescu i dunno if i'm the only one who saw brasil - but whenever i see that sorta thing i remember the workmen that cut the holes for the police to bust into homes. [17:06]
ascii_field yes! [17:06]
nubbins` as usual, alf has a better understanding than i [17:06]
ascii_field one of the greatest films about essence of usg [17:06]
mircea_popescu it's pretty good. maybe i'm distributring name tags at conference all reading Mr. Tuttle [17:06]
nubbins` w/ deniro? [17:06]
ascii_field Buttle [17:07]
ascii_field mega-film. [17:07]
mircea_popescu yup [17:07]
* ascii_field heartily recommends 'brazil' to everyone [17:07]
mircea_popescu certainly put gilliam on the map for me. and then imaginarium... [17:08]
ascii_field another mega-film! [17:08]
mircea_popescu you seen imaginarium nubbins` ? [17:08]
mircea_popescu that and barbarella is what i imagine you grew up on. [17:08]
BingoBoingo Everyone knows mircea_popescu grew up on Dallas [17:09]
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BingoBoingo !up ascii_field [17:09]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo lol actually, lemme give you the shortlist : http://trilema.com/grabeste-te-incet http://trilema.com/signore-e-signori-buonanotte http://trilema.com/nesustinabila-negreutate-a-nemortii http://trilema.com/laile-ou-la-cuisse http://trilema.com/2012/la-terra-trema/ [17:11]
assbot Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CsCe5F ) [17:11]
assbot Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CsCe5K ) [17:11]
assbot Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CsCe5M ) [17:11]
assbot Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CsCe5O ) [17:11]
assbot La Terra Trema pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1CsCbHh ) [17:11]
mircea_popescu the english stuff i saw much later. [17:11]
jurov ben_vulpes rly? you want patches for makeshift build scripts? [17:15]
jurov re: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1054768 [17:15]
assbot Logged on 17-03-2015 05:07:10; ben_vulpes: ;;later tell jurov http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-January/000034.html << why not a patch file for this? just to make me diff it myself? [17:15]
jurov mod6 you see, we have a release indeed. ppl demand patchezzz!!! [17:16]
mircea_popescu haga [17:17]
BingoBoingo Release party! [17:17]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1055438 << it's BELL boy. as aptly explained for tim roth's benefit in 4 rooms, "they ring the bell, ya hop!" [17:17]
assbot Logged on 17-03-2015 16:27:58; pete_dushenski: he trains the national junior squad, one of whom we even had as our ball boy ! [17:17]
mircea_popescu wait, nm. tennis, ma bad. [17:19]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1055504 << not really, no. they had a little less preditors than hippos would if there were no humans. [17:22]
assbot Logged on 17-03-2015 18:44:42; pete_dushenski: dinosaurs were freaking enormous and had plenty of predation pressures [17:22]
pete_dushenski yes, with the little yellow fuzzy ball! [17:23]
pete_dushenski and i'll stop derping about dinos now [17:23]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-03-2015#1055519 << by and large, this depends on how you measure efficiency. rabbits are larger than chickens, but more efficient, under the "food to usable foodstuff" conversion paradigm. turkeys are larger than chickens and less efficient. etc. [17:23]
assbot Logged on 17-03-2015 18:50:07; Adlai: smaller organisms are more efficient [17:23]
mircea_popescu generally birds are inefficient because of the 42 degrees problem. but also, polar bears eat a lot more than lions, per body kg. [17:24]
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ben_vulpes 42 degrees problem? [17:25]
* Adlai was referring specifically to growth ratios: quadratic muscle strength vs cubic mass [17:26]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: just found out today co-manager is romanian [17:27]
thestringpuller you guise be reppin' hard [17:28]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes birds maintain 42 degrees body temperatures, vs your 36.5 [17:28]
mircea_popescu that's expensive at rest (it's also the only reason they can fly, larger buffer to absorb the heat they can't dissipate) [17:29]
mircea_popescu (this is why birds hang out in trees while reptiles hang out on rocks - birds need the shade, lizards need the heat) [17:29]
Adlai camels have a range of liveable body temperatures, like a reptile but not. verging upon the... reptilian. [17:30]
mircea_popescu tru [17:30]
pete_dushenski 42 degrees would, i suppose, explain why there aren't any pterodactyl-sized birds [17:30]
mircea_popescu Adlai you ever slept in the desert, camels lined up to break the cold wind ? [17:30]
Adlai ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camel#Ecological_and_behavioral_adaptations ) [17:30]
assbot Camel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1BNHPA9 ) [17:30]
Adlai fuxake, we have tents yknow [17:31]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski look into large eagles. [17:31]
Adlai and armored vehicles [17:31]
mircea_popescu Adlai ha! i'm one ahead :D [17:31]
mircea_popescu actually chetty was on that trip! [17:31]
nubbins` <+mircea_popescu> you seen imaginarium nubbins` ? <<< of dr parnassus or w/e? [17:31]
mircea_popescu yup [17:31]
nubbins` nod. some years back, through a haze of mixed intoxicants: "is that tom waits?" [17:32]
* Adlai has slept in the desert without anything breaking the wind... [17:32]
* Adlai has also ridden camels, but years ago on a school thingy [17:32]
Adlai roughly a decade by now, around 5 BC [17:33]
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Adlai s/C/G/ [17:33]
nubbins` actually iirc there's a zine somewhere in this house that mentions a woman w the last name popescu [17:33]
Adlai "before genesis" [17:33]
nubbins` iifrc, the title of the piece was "a list of people whose houses i am no longer allowed in" [17:33]
mircea_popescu lol ? [17:33]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2012/law-enforcement-never-fails-to-unintentionally-entertain/#comment-113144 heh. [17:34]
assbot Law enforcement never fails to unintentionally entertain pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1BNInWG ) [17:34]
mircea_popescu that's a mildly interesting problem : calculate the probability of naturally occuring exact geometric shapes of a given metal and mass. [17:35]
Adlai mircea_popescu: wait so where do the emphases go in your name? MEER-sha po-PES-ku ? [17:35]
mircea_popescu yea [17:35]
mircea_popescu first-and-penultimate convention [17:35]
thestringpuller I'm going to prounounce is MER-KUH [17:37]
thestringpuller lol [17:37]
thestringpuller jk [17:37]
Adlai first-and-penultimate is itself first-and-pe-null-tim-et [17:37]
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mircea_popescu :) [17:38]
mircea_popescu you know you should prolly look into ipa rather than that atrocity w/e it is. [17:39]
chetty http://www.the-spearhead.com/2013/01/25/scandnavian-men-leaving-feminists-to-themselves/ [17:39]
assbot Scandinavian Men Leaving Feminists to Themselves - The Spearhead ... ( http://bit.ly/1BNJ5U0 ) [17:39]
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Adlai ipa? atrocity? [17:43]
scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/03/openssl-severe-vulnerability-to-be-revealed-march-19th/ [17:54]
mircea_popescu i dunno what "meer-sha" is supposed to sound like. [17:59]
scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/03/coinapult-reports-hot-wallet-compromise/ [18:00]
mircea_popescu i know what mirˈt͡ʃe̯a is supposed to sound like [18:00]
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funkenstein_ all this talk of companies losing peoples money makes me think i should give up and just trust some company with all my money [18:18]
funkenstein_ either that or time to open up a wallet service [18:23]
Adlai this is why you should only trust people with your money, never companies [18:27]
BingoBoingo I forget what group was behing the silver cold storage buttplug? [18:27]
Adlai http://w.b-a.link/user/slush [18:34]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/18DVYpo ) [18:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60540 @ 0.00031891 = 19.3068 BTC [-] {3} [18:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21100 @ 0.00032485 = 6.8543 BTC [+] [18:37]
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cazalla pete_dushenski: it's in melbourne at the central train terminal <<< they've slowly chipped away at that place, replacing the old with the new, personally i don't see it as anything special, stench of stale piss surrounds it [18:46]
Adlai sounds like my slum [18:46]
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mircea_popescu http://blog.cakebet.com/clarity-shines-fud/ << who's this incidentally ? [19:26]
assbot Clarity Shines Through The FUD - CBB: CakeBet Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1xcxAH1 ) [19:26]
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danielpbarron that's the nakamoto institute guy [19:31]
mircea_popescu with some dubious casino ? [19:31]
danielpbarron i wasn't aware of his involvement with that; i just see his name attributed at the end of the article [19:32]
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mircea_popescu "Francis Fondant" [19:33]
PeterL ;;later tell pete_dushenski I dunno what you're talking about, looks like its working fine for me? [19:34]
gribble The operation succeeded. [19:34]
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mircea_popescu "Your LinkedIn account says you’re in Sweden, so perhaps English is not your native language. That’s cool. Spanish was my first language, so I feel you. However, your generalization about women is a reprehensible bromide." [19:36]
mircea_popescu i just picked myself off the floor [19:36]
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mircea_popescu in other news, tithat. http://40.media.tumblr.com/a8d148fd90a47d247323ab5c2cb81c7b/tumblr_mh2pkwkHTk1r7r92mo1_500.jpg [19:42]
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mircea_popescu http://su3su2u1.tumblr.com/post/96861298768/on-reliable-guides-and-bayesianism << the trouble with the world is that the well informed are weak and the ignorant headstrong. [19:55]
assbot Wading In — On Reliable Guides and Bayesianism ... ( http://bit.ly/1MHZbTL ) [19:55]
mircea_popescu that article should have been dripping invective. but of course, such is not possible. so random internet imbecile reads it and moves on, unbothered. HE IS LESS WRONG [19:55]
mircea_popescu and utterly stupid. [19:55]
BingoBoingo danielpbarron: You might enjoy http://bulabula.org/papers/2015/asiabsdcon/ just keep in mind this is one of the devs, don't go all twitter fatwah [19:55]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1MHZcHy ) [19:56]
mircea_popescu hahaha [19:57]
BingoBoingo It sucks that the thing is a slide deck, but at least it is a series of images and not a ppt or pdf turd [20:01]
danielpbarron lol [20:07]
BingoBoingo danielpbarron: How's the imac doing? [20:11]
danielpbarron very well [20:13]
danielpbarron done with g4, now working on a g3 [20:13]
BingoBoingo Cool [20:14]
danielpbarron the hard drives are failing but it's good enough [20:14]
danielpbarron i may buy a bunch of ssd drives [20:14]
BingoBoingo Replacing those shouldn't be hard [20:14]
danielpbarron i think i could resell these things [20:14]
danielpbarron openbsd is such a pleasure to work with [20:16]
danielpbarron it does exactly what i expect it to do [20:16]
BingoBoingo AH, replacing the hard drives requires thermal paste [20:16]
danielpbarron yeah replacing parts in mac stuff is not easy but it's not impossible [20:17]
danielpbarron i don't know about thermal paste, but it's not like i can just pop off a panel and swap the drive [20:17]
BingoBoingo https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/iMac+G4+17-Inch+Model+M9168LLA+Hard+Drive+Replacement/4176 << Part of what you remove to get to the HD connects to the CPU's waste heat removal path [20:18]
assbot iMac G4 17" Model M9168LLA Hard Drive Replacement - iFixit ... ( http://bit.ly/1MI1eY4 ) [20:18]
BingoBoingo I'm pretty sure I still have my torx screwdriver for the real B&W Macs somewhere around here [20:19]
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danielpbarron https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/577976775449300992 [20:41]
assbot /hashtag/OpenBSD?src=hash 5.6 on an Apple iMac G4. http://t.co/vx5qS4N7WV [20:41]
BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Curious yet to see if the G4 can catch up to the Pogos? [20:47]
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BingoBoingo !up nubbins` [21:06]
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BingoBoingo nubbins`: How's your EM storm? [21:06]
nubbins` uneventful [21:07]
BingoBoingo Sun down yet? Checking for Auroraussifdhauh;wjd;if [21:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 104128 @ 0.00032631 = 33.978 BTC [+] {2} [21:11]
thestringpuller nubbins`: did you get Eulora to run? [21:12]
mircea_popescu http://news.yahoo.com/dursts-letter-helped-prosecutors-bring-murder-charge-071512902.html << so is this "the dekulakization is proceeding apace" or is it "insane criminal accidentally confesses" ? [21:13]
assbot Police searching Houston home of millionaire Robert Durst - Yahoo News ... ( http://bit.ly/1AVVwcP ) [21:13]
nubbins` too cloudy for 'em here! [21:13]
nubbins` thestringpuller nah [21:14]
BingoBoingo ... << so is this "the dekulakization is proceeding apace" or is it "insane criminal accidentally confesses" ? << One of the Vic's is a "Mob Bosses" daughter so it is time to bring out all the grains of salt. [21:16]
mircea_popescu i dunno what value a 3 year old audio testimony produced by a media company with ample access to recordings of the person's voice could be worth in court. [21:21]
mircea_popescu if it is worth anything, it is worth anything only through the sheer ignorance / ample cupidity of the jury. [21:21]
thestringpuller isn't that the point of a jury? [21:21]
mircea_popescu otherwise, i could probably make an audiotrack of obama confessing his erotic dreams of stalin. [21:21]
nubbins` thestringpuller actually yes. i did get eulora to run [21:22]
nubbins` didn't get it to accept kbd/mouse input [21:22]
thestringpuller what platform? [21:22]
nubbins` this was a while ago [21:22]
nubbins` osx [21:22]
nubbins` natch [21:22]
thestringpuller ah. damn. i'm trying on ubuntu using chetty 's setup. almost got it. just cal3d is invisible for some reason [21:23]
thestringpuller soon. progress. stuff. [21:23]
mircea_popescu nubbins` if memory serves the stuff was upgraded once since hten [21:23]
nubbins` check against the linux as well as osx install guide on the wiki, might be of some help [21:23]
nubbins` mp o! [21:23]
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nubbins` then maybe i'll have another go [21:25]
nubbins` is 0.0.4 latest? that's the one i was messing w/ [21:26]
mircea_popescu it's latest but old. a new one is in the pipe so give it a few. [21:27]
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danielpbarron i got eulora to work on gentoo [21:29]
mircea_popescu o hey! [21:29]
danielpbarron i collected items and talked to npcs [21:29]
danielpbarron this was weeks ago [21:29]
mircea_popescu seems gentoo is going to be a major platform for eulora beta / many things we do. [21:30]
ben_vulpes wai no [21:31]
danielpbarron at this point i consider gentoo to be the only linux (worth using) [21:31]
mircea_popescu should be remembered as "the costs of systemd". [21:31]
danielpbarron and openbsd the only bsd [21:31]
ben_vulpes gentoo doesn't have systemd? [21:31]
danielpbarron it's optional and not default [21:32]
mircea_popescu more easily fixed than the rest of 'em. [21:32]
mircea_popescu nobody has so far taken a strong "fuck you, and red hat, and the usg" stance. it is likely they never will, [21:32]
mircea_popescu preferring instead to write plaintive missives of no value ten years later, like the netbsd derp. [21:32]
mircea_popescu "here's how stupid i was and here's what you could learn from it : don't EVER go with the libertard ideology, ever." [21:33]
mircea_popescu except not really saying that, because hey, still same dumb, ten years older. [21:33]
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ben_vulpes and i assume that crystalspace won't build on openbsd? [21:38]
ben_vulpes i mean if one's to go off the deep end, why not...go off the deep end? [21:38]
mircea_popescu i don't see why not ? c is c. [21:39]
mircea_popescu anyway, jurov found a guy willing to do the windows stuff, so there's going to be that, too. [21:39]
mircea_popescu im curious how it'll work out. [21:39]
ben_vulpes i don't see why not either [21:40]
ben_vulpes except that it's not happening. [21:40]
ben_vulpes i'd rather assume asshats have good reason for doing what they're doing and that seems the most obvious reason. [21:40]
mircea_popescu in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/0c02c9667532ac3adc5e91e231a12a95/tumblr_mm6fa8ZxQe1s9rg6lo1_1280.jpg [21:40]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1AW1kD0 ) [21:40]
mircea_popescu im open for someone to maintain an openbsd binary. [21:40]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2015/open-binary-maintenance-for-eulora/ < relevant [21:41]
assbot [OPEN] Binary maintenance for Eulora pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1AW1uKN ) [21:41]
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ben_vulpes lol well i can't imagine you'd be against it [21:41]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: maybe also have update script for dependencies? [21:41]
thestringpuller at least windows games install directX before they attempt to install themselves :P [21:42]
BingoBoingo and openbsd the only bsd << If you tuck it safely behind a wall, FreeBSD kicks ass on storage. [21:42]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller it'll be the maintainer's lot. [21:42]
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mircea_popescu http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=dancing_man << worth a chuckle. [21:55]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1DznX77 ) [21:55]
mircea_popescu "Far be it for me to question the veracity of claims made by screenshots of anonymous comments from 4chan, but did anyone bother to stop and ask why a man would be dancing in a room full of people wearing coats?" [21:58]
BingoBoingo scoopbot -fetch [22:02]
scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/03/largest-bitcoin-bet-resolved/ [22:03]
mod6 lol, moby offered "services" [22:04]
mod6 maddox++ [22:04]
mircea_popescu maddox is like nubbins` on steroids. [22:05]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo nice! [22:05]
BingoBoingo You're welcome mircea_popescu [22:05]
mircea_popescu in other news, assisted mating : http://41.media.tumblr.com/2a0f9ef7d972e3448902da6081a00b08/tumblr_mzp6phkXAY1scedu9o1_1280.jpg [22:08]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1DzqDlo ) [22:08]
BingoBoingo and i assume that crystalspace won't build on openbsd? << Don't see how it could be much worse than bitcoin-qt, which is why I am severely undrqualified for this [22:12]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 114850 @ 0.00032713 = 37.5709 BTC [+] {2} [22:15]
BingoBoingo "Because if we've learned nothing from Martin Luther King Jr., and we haven't, true diversity comes not from the content of our character, but the color of our skin. And which genitals we have." [22:19]
asciilifeform achtung, panzers, [22:20]
asciilifeform from macrofab: 'We received your boards today, we expect to have review complete and the boards working as expected tomorrow, I will keep you posted!' [22:20]
* asciilifeform skeptical [22:21]
BingoBoingo I'm just thrilled that it appears counterfieting and mislabling just might be so rampant that nothing digital would work if it had to meet analogue standards [22:23]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: vendor insists they tested 50 random Rs from spool [22:23]
asciilifeform and found none that match my description of the four that ended up on the boards. [22:24]
asciilifeform 'my lying eyes' [22:24]
asciilifeform incidentally, had i done anything other than what i did - ordering sample rng first - would likely have noticed nothing. [22:25]
BingoBoingo Vegans still eat grain even though their eyes don't see the blood of the mice rats, cats, and coons slaughtered by the combine on each grain. [22:25]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: somebody ought to sell these schmucks a simple protein assayer [22:26]
asciilifeform undergrad-level problem. [22:26]
asciilifeform and make'em squirm [22:27]
BingoBoingo A charitable to the vendor interpretation here is that USPS didn't know you had door camera and you didn't know USPS's official address attached to your domicile is Fort Mead [22:27]
* asciilifeform wonder what the cat ppm is of grain [22:27]
nubbins` easy enough to find out the allowed max [22:27]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: the mail did get in later that day. [22:28]
asciilifeform if enemy action - straight sabotage, rather than subversion [22:28]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Sure, my mail occasionally gets registered a bit early or late too. I write it off to lazy mailmail scanning everything at once. Still how lond would it take intermediate site to sabotage [22:29]
asciilifeform though there might live somewhere a nitwit so astonoshingly stupid that he might imagine that rng might be screwed into a live battlefield system without test of any kind. [22:29]
BingoBoingo Well the partial sybill uncovered spynodes because deviance [22:30]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo " I am severely undrqualified for this" said every virgin at her defloration party. [22:31]
mircea_popescu i suppose they don't do those statesides ? [22:31]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: perhaps my (1980s) multimeter lies. or i'm simply retarded. or, or, or. [22:32]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform maybe tell them that if they provide you with a full diagnosis / story of what happened you'll publish the whole thing on your blog, [22:32]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not sure if that would encourage or discourage the poor buggers [22:32]
mircea_popescu and that they should prolly take advantage of the opportunity seeing how it's widely read by the world's elite such as for instance mpex discussion. [22:33]
mircea_popescu but who cares what the effect is ? :) [22:33]
nubbins` my arms are cancelled from all that shovelling [22:33]
asciilifeform the only reason they even pretend to do this ritual is the dream, i'd guess, of repeat business [22:33]
asciilifeform no one breaks a sweat over <1 benjie [22:33]
mircea_popescu quite. [22:33]
mircea_popescu they may also be doing it for the principle of the thing. [22:33]
asciilifeform entirely possible [22:33]
mircea_popescu well so then. [22:33]
BingoBoingo i suppose they don't do those statesides ? << Only for the cool virgins [22:34]
mircea_popescu yeah kinda how it works. [22:34]
mod6 anyone wanna give v0.5.3.1 RC1 a try? http://thebitcoin.foundation/bitcoin-v0_5_3_1-RC1.tar.gz [22:34]
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mod6 a2d54ff7eebca1340adbe4119eb542db5db0865676b1344f6beaa5fdd0ae6cd8 bitcoin-v0_5_3_1-RC1.tar.gz [22:36]
mircea_popescu better snow than shit ey nubbins` ? [22:37]
nubbins` you assume 8) [22:37]
mircea_popescu nubbins` i actually shovelled snow myself. [22:38]
BingoBoingo I'm just glad out snow seems over, lilacs started waking up this week [22:38]
nubbins` imagine! :D [22:38]
nubbins` light and fluffy or 80% liquid water? [22:38]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2012/jos-basescu/ << 2012. [22:39]
nubbins` large amt of both types on the ground today ;/ [22:39]
assbot Jos Basescu! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1ACPej8 ) [22:39]
asciilifeform "the costs of systemd" << wai wat was this [22:39]
mircea_popescu "eulora on gentoo, everything else on gentoo, fu." [22:40]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: gentoo doesn't have systemd? << complicated. if you follow the install described in the Handbook, you will almost certainly end up with systemd [22:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50700 @ 0.00031178 = 15.8072 BTC [-] {4} [22:41]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you know it occurs to me a broad systemd test script would be useful [22:42]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: test script ? [22:42]
asciilifeform as in, for presence thereof? it's trivial, check the process list [22:42]
BingoBoingo nubbins`> large amt of both types on the ground today ;/ << This year aside from October we've just been all light and fluffy [22:42]
mircea_popescu it can't run unless it has pid 0 ? [22:42]
asciilifeform the thing mutilates the entire system in such ways that there can be no confusion whatsoever about its presence [22:42]
mircea_popescu coming up next in game of thrones, http://40.media.tumblr.com/083af2dfaee0ff56b152fe153fa1dce9/tumblr_mtmcqoGtT81r59rt8o1_1280.jpg [22:43]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ACPVZN ) [22:43]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu saw the g.o.t. ? [22:43]
BingoBoingo Serious game of throne http://fap.to/images/50/1477125326/fetish-porn/girls-naked-on-the-toilet-4.jpg [22:44]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ACQdzy ) [22:44]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: l0l [22:45]
asciilifeform 'wide stance' (TM) [22:45]
asciilifeform (uttered by american politician, even) [22:45]
BingoBoingo Larry Craig (tm) [22:46]
mircea_popescu got ? [22:46]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: game of thrones [22:46]
mircea_popescu ah, no. im peripherally aware of it cuz coupla of de girlz are fans [22:46]
asciilifeform (exists as a barely readable book series, and a very lulzy tv series) [22:47]
BingoBoingo It's basically another hairy twatter fanfic, still not as good as the woodchipper one [22:48]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: nope [22:48]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: not all bad phantasy is riff on hp [22:48]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: It didn't start that way, but it is headed there. [22:49]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: there's a whole world of it. traditionally dominated by bad tolkien riffs, but GOT isn't one of these either [22:49]
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asciilifeform for gentoo n00bz: [22:50]
asciilifeform use 'eudev' instead of 'udev'. this zaps the shitgnomotron of artificial dependency on systemd in device hotplugger [22:51]
asciilifeform http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Gentoo_Without_systemd << aaaand there's a bit of instruction here [22:51]
assbot Gentoo Without systemd - Gentoo Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1ACRzdG ) [22:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 110683 @ 0.00030836 = 34.1302 BTC [-] {2} [22:52]
asciilifeform summary: add '-systemd' to USE flags [22:52]
asciilifeform and mask systemd and udev in package.mask. [22:52]
asciilifeform do this -before- emerging world, or any individual package likely to pull in systemd-isms for that matter. [22:53]
* BingoBoingo is perfectly happy to admit his beloved Breaking Bad is just MacBeth fanfic [22:53]
* asciilifeform is curious whether anyone here 1) does gentoo 2) did not know above recipe [22:53]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform from what i've seen they mostly do "bad actors in bad period costumes and elevator scripts" [22:56]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform the idiocy of how linux nowadays handles dependencies makes me fucking hate the entire thing. [22:57]
mircea_popescu really, solitaire is dependent on networking ? fuck the whole lot of them. [22:58]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: gentoo is afaik the last remaining bastion of sanity re: dependencies [22:58]
asciilifeform which is to say, they are actually controllable [22:58]
trinque -pulseaudio is another good one [22:58]
trinque also -dbus [22:58]
mircea_popescu "the last remaining bastion " >> http://40.media.tumblr.com/bab78269d215cf75ed1df862a19e1494/tumblr_mz3c8j5Dmq1s0f482o1_1280.jpg [22:58]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ACSOJZ ) [22:58]
nubbins` have never used gentoo [22:58]
mircea_popescu nubbins` me either. nor would i have considered it, pre debian showing all the leadership of a stale clump of bread. [22:59]
* asciilifeform went straight from msdos to freebsd, then gentoo [22:59]
nubbins` i diddled with slackware in my teens, have used debian or a derivation thereof since [22:59]
mircea_popescu meanwhile /me has ordered gentoo researched and will probably migrate. [22:59]
mircea_popescu exactly [22:59]
* asciilifeform this being whole of what he ever used on pc arch [22:59]
nubbins` linux-wise, anyway [23:00]
mircea_popescu half my shit is still on sarge [23:00]
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* asciilifeform was never eager to run other folks' binaries if there was a way of avoiding it, purely because it never seems to work reasonably well on linux (i always got 'lucky' and libc mismatched) [23:00]
nubbins` i recall using VMS on a work term once [23:01]
nubbins` bizarre os [23:01]
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* asciilifeform likes various gentoo-specific things like automagic cross-compiler toolchain builder [23:01]
asciilifeform i do a great bit of cross-compilation. [23:02]
nubbins` and my last job, most of the place was mainframes running IBM i [23:02]
asciilifeform vms is very interesting from historic perspective and any serious reader of 'the unix hater's handbook' should give it a spin out of purely that [23:02]
decimation nubbins`: the aurora should be slightly visible, if you have a dark sky [23:02]
nubbins` decimation i'm just outta range [23:02]
nubbins` like almost the only place in .ca out of range [23:03]
decimation chetty: the G4 global storm is a global phenomenon, still ongoing [23:03]
decimation it is maximal opposite the sun; it will move south during the night [23:03]
decimation the powerline impacts are probably not detectable on your local line, they affect long distance transmission lines [23:04]
danielpbarron 09:48 <+asciilifeform> summary: add '-systemd' to USE flags << ah yes i forgot i had done this [23:05]
danielpbarron i have pulseaudio though; why is that bad? [23:06]
mircea_popescu it's meh. kinda-works. poettering's previous project. [23:06]
nubbins` ppp [23:07]
mircea_popescu lol [23:08]
mircea_popescu http://su3su2u1.tumblr.com/post/97789680783/chapter-18-what << this shit's something else. [23:10]
assbot Wading In — Chapter 18 - What? ... ( http://bit.ly/1ACV0Bb ) [23:10]
mircea_popescu copilul anal, totally. [23:10]
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BingoBoingo http://su3su2u1.tumblr.com/post/97789680783/chapter-18-what << this shit's something else. << It gets more broken [23:16]
assbot Wading In — Chapter 18 - What? ... ( http://bit.ly/1ACVXtj ) [23:16]
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-assbot- You voiced coalbe for 30 minutes. [23:22]
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decimation re: systemd-free gentoo < http://www.funtoo.org/Welcome < there's also funtoo which is apparently a light variant on gentoo which specifically excludes systemd [23:29]
assbot Funtoo Linux ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cr7dO3 ) [23:29]
decimation I haven't used it, but it ought to deliver a gentoo-like experience (uses the same repository afaik) [23:29]
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BingoBoingo !up TheNewDeal [23:31]
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decimation daniel robbins (original man behind gentoo) runs funtoo [23:31]
TheNewDeal Why thank you [23:31]
TheNewDeal ;;Later tell TomServo Ill be around wednesday evening to Sunday evening. Send me a message [23:32]
gribble The operation succeeded. [23:32]
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nubbins` with a name like funtoo [23:40]
decimation apparently john carmack is a fan of the 'racket' language [23:43]
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mircea_popescu lmao [23:43]
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decimation apparently it's a scheme variant with tons of junk glommed on [23:48]
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BingoBoingo I'll check again in a couple hours, bu we may have aurora building visible here [23:53]
decimation http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/03/17/is-using-encryption-suspicious-half-of-americans-say-yes-according-to-pew/ < "http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/03/17/is-using-encryption-suspicious-half-of-americans-say-yes-according-to-pew/" < lolz [23:54]
assbot Is using encryption suspicious? Half of Americans say yes, according to Pew. - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1CrawES ) [23:54]
decimation doh stupid cut "Though the report found that a majority of Americans are skeptical of government surveillance programs, it also found very few are taking the extra step of encrypting the content of their e-mails. In fact, half of those surveyed said using encryption software gives the government enough suspicion to monitor a U.S. citizen's communications." [23:54]
BingoBoingo decimation: You have to remember that ~98% of Americans made the mistake of voting for Obummer or Romney [23:55]
decimation heh yeah [23:55]
decimation and then again [23:55]
decimation Obummer or Mccain, even when ron paul was on the ticket (for primary) [23:56]
nubbins` 98% voter turnout? :0 [23:56]
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asciilifeform 'racket' << iirc it was the thing formerly 'plt scheme' [23:57]
BingoBoingo Obummer or Mccain, even when ron paul was on the ticket (for primary) << Insuffiecient information at the time to blame eeveryone for voting "generic sharp black kid" over the lich [23:57]
* asciilifeform originally learned scheme on 'plt' [23:57]
asciilifeform and even taught to a girl [23:57]
decimation BingoBoingo: actually that reminds me of a funny quote on the econtalk podcast: "Reminds me of when I tried in 1976--I was in a shopping mall in North Carolina trying to get the Libertarian candidate, Roger McBride, on the ballot. One of my few forays into politics. I would accost passers by and ask them if they would like to see a third party and have another choice, and many of them would say: We have too many already." [23:57]
decimation http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2011/09/winston_on_lawy.html [23:58]
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decimation asciilifeform: so you would endorse taking a look at 'racket'? [23:58]
asciilifeform no. [23:58]
decimation in your blog, you say that scheme is too 'minimal' to be useful [23:58]
asciilifeform as described in r5rs - yes [23:59]
BingoBoingo decimation: My one legit referendum petition I remember signing was when I was living in Missouri. It is Mardi Gras and I signed the legalize the marijuana petition because fuck west county [23:59]
asciilifeform as described in subsequent documents - poetteringized [23:59]
decimation ah, I see. [23:59]
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