Forum logs for 18 Mar 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* BingoBoingo drilling python some more realizing to do what I want prolly need to drill perl and C [00:00]
decimation BingoBoingo: apparently you could just drive to to colorado [00:00]
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BingoBoingo decimation: On St. Patricks day? After mircea_popescu lost the Berkshire bet? I'm fine taking in the Aurorae as a faint green glow. [00:01]
decimation BingoBoingo: I don't mind python, but realize it's just kind of a c with lisp ideas thrown in [00:02]
BingoBoingo BingoBoingo: I don't mind python, but realize it's just kind of a c with lisp ideas thrown in << I'm just looking to populate a toolbox. [00:07]
BingoBoingo For mundane taks [00:07]
BingoBoingo *tasks [00:07]
* asciilifeform has a radio scanner running for unrelated reasons, picked up the well-known alex jones, quoth 'soros funded ferguson...' - then disappears in jamming noise [00:08]
asciilifeform or possibly the solar flare [00:08]
decimation heh [00:08]
BingoBoingo or possibly the solar flare << Direction of solar flare fun from here is line of site to downtown (granted not huge downtown) and walmart LED lights. [00:09]
BingoBoingo Maybe placebo, but at last check tint to lights a bit greener than usual for such clear skies. [00:10]
decimation the aurora is actually caused by particles spiraling down the the magnetic field lines, the solar flare that sent them here was over days ago [00:10]
BingoBoingo This being middle west though nothing about sky can be trusted. [00:10]
asciilifeform decimation: elementary 'dynamo' situation [00:10]
asciilifeform same as nuke emp. [00:10]
BingoBoingo decimation: I thought it made contact about 24 hours ago, not quite finished with contact? [00:11]
decimation yeah pretty much. that's why it causes a danger to long conductors, sets up currents through 'ground' [00:11]
BingoBoingo same as nuke emp. << Speed differs [00:11]
asciilifeform well yes. [00:11]
asciilifeform ' survival kit is complete without silver bullets...' -- radio [00:11]
* asciilifeform lulz1ng [00:12]
decimation BingoBoingo: the main body of particles has passed, but the earth's magnetic field is still bouncing around in its wake [00:12]
asciilifeform '...put a wall between you and... irs' [00:12]
BingoBoingo ' survival kit is complete without silver bullets...' -- radio << About as easy to cast as lead [00:12]
asciilifeform but wtf. [00:12]
decimation asciilifeform: are you listening to 'coast to coast' on am? [00:12]
asciilifeform that's some serious sp4m [00:12]
nubbins` you pick up some bizarre things on shortwave sometimes [00:12]
asciilifeform 4.85 Mhz [00:12]
decimation shortwave in the us is a desert of crazy [00:13]
decimation at least, broadcast anyway [00:13]
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* BingoBoingo steeling up for the prospect of walking halway to St Rose at for the prospect of seeing a smidge of green in the sky. [00:14]
danielpbarron i'm reading the quoted radio text in that alex jones voice in my head [00:14]
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* BingoBoingo would consider driving if he hadn't started the libations 10 hours ago. [00:14]
decimation asciilifeform: you might be listening to WWCR transmitter #3 [00:15]
decimation schedule here [00:15]
assbot | Home - WWCR Shortwave, Nashville, Tennessee, USA ... ( ) [00:15]
decimation it could also be a harmonic of some local am broadcaster [00:16]
* BingoBoingo thinks eventually qntra should distribute RSS over number station [00:16]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: if you wanna pay for this... [00:17]
nubbins` ;;google raspberry pi pirate radio [00:17]
gribble Raspberry Pirate Radio - Make: | Make:: ; Start a Pirate Radio Station with a Raspberry Pi and a Single Wire: ; Weekend Projects - Raspberry Pirate Radio - YouTube: [00:17]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Give it two decades. 1 GW at 440 HZ [00:17]
nubbins` works until you get v& [00:17]
BingoBoingo When mircea_popescu's comfotable in New Reno should be perfectly feasible [00:18]
BingoBoingo What else is the Hoover Damn or its remains going to be sending power too? [00:19]
mircea_popescu Is using encryption suspicious? Half of Americans say yes, according to Pew << half of americans also think an mit degree means basic electric competence. [00:19]
asciilifeform goddammnit [00:21]
mircea_popescu ? [00:21]
asciilifeform [censored].155 Mhz has my keyboard [00:21]
BingoBoingo So in News, disorderly conduct has moved from series of incompletable bench trials to Hearing today. [00:21]
asciilifeform fucktardation [00:21]
* asciilifeform was actually looking for precisely it, and found it [00:21]
BingoBoingo Hearing in May [00:22]
decimation asciilifeform: my suggestion: lots of ferrite [00:22]
asciilifeform not coming from the cable [00:24]
asciilifeform (shielded) [00:24]
BingoBoingo Erect around mudhut, ground well? [00:24]
assbot Steel Buildings | Steel Building & Metal Building Quotes ... ( ) [00:24]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: not in mud hut [00:25]
mircea_popescu ' survival kit is complete without silver bullets...' << this is actually a lot more sensible than it seems. silver has some good chars for making a bullet. [00:25]
asciilifeform vs pb ? [00:26]
asciilifeform how ? [00:26]
BingoBoingo Silver's a bit harder, still soft enough for rifling. Just not quite as dense as pb [00:26]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform because doesn't blunt quite as much on impact [00:27]
* asciilifeform found yet another harmonic [00:27]
mircea_popescu less like frozen shit, so to speak [00:27]
* asciilifeform is -not- happy with his discovery [00:27]
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BingoBoingo Excellent chumpatron could be had selling silver bullets at $5 - 45 per round for "When your life depends on it" [00:28]
mircea_popescu i think it's being done already. [00:28]
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* mircea_popescu sits patiently waiting to see what alf finds in his kbd now [00:29]
BingoBoingo Of all the silly james bond premises the man with the gold gun seemed one of the more feasible ones. [00:29]
asciilifeform it's an ordinary '80s ps/2 kbd. [00:29]
asciilifeform i knew they are loud, did not know -how- [00:29]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo gold is pretty atrocious a material to make guns out of. [00:30]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform is it audible if unplugged ? [00:31]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: The gun itself yes, the bullet, no [00:31]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: +5dB when key repeating [00:31]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: otherwise just atmospheric static uncorrelated with distance of antenna from device [00:31]
mircea_popescu sure, gold bullet might work. [00:31]
mircea_popescu not so different from what the us is doing currently. [00:31]
mircea_popescu "would have been cheaper to buy afghanistan than to conquer it was" [00:32]
BingoBoingo Du's prolly close to the optimal choice though [00:32]
asciilifeform ... aaaand another harmonic [00:33]
scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: [00:35]
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asciilifeform .... and another harmonic [00:41]
decimation asciilifeform: it could be from the cord [00:42]
asciilifeform mnope. [00:42]
asciilifeform specifically keyboard microcontroller. [00:42]
decimation asciilifeform: yes, but something is radiating it presumably? [00:43]
asciilifeform decimation: scan matrix [00:43]
decimation asciilifeform: there might be little you can do unless you are willing to modify the internal circuitry [00:48]
asciilifeform decimation: more than willing [00:48]
decimation some ferrite might help, but it takes quite a bit to make a difference [00:48]
decimation < I recommend this [00:50]
mircea_popescu actually... just add rng in circuit. [00:50]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: think, scan matrix [00:50]
decimation common mode chokes create an impedence to the common mode circuit - you would have to pass both signal and ground through them. a mix #43 toroid with several turns of both signal and ground would help [00:51]
asciilifeform << likbez [00:51]
assbot ... ( ) [00:51]
asciilifeform decimation: not coming from the cable! [00:52]
decimation asciilifeform: I understand, I'm talking about the connection between the microprocessor and the scan array [00:52]
asciilifeform the array itself appears to radiate also. [00:52]
decimation yes [00:52]
asciilifeform which is entirely unsurprising [00:52]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i understnad how the matrix thing works. [00:52]
asciilifeform to anyone who was awake in kindergarten [00:52]
asciilifeform likbez for ze n00bz [00:52]
mircea_popescu fact remains you can add a chunk to generate fake keypresses right next to it. [00:53]
mircea_popescu you are immune to it, yourself, because wires. [00:53]
mircea_popescu spy however can't discern [00:53]
decimation the other solution is to insert a differential filter (lowpass) in the actual scan array circuit [00:53]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ideal materials for this artistic project is controller from identical kbd, with keyswitch faker attached [00:53]
mircea_popescu well, or can use your own rng. [00:53]
decimation which may have obvious side effects on the circuitry [00:54]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: yes but to have precisely same radiating profile [00:54]
mircea_popescu well yea, will take some tinkering. [00:54]
* asciilifeform could probably achieve more with an actual spectrum analyzer, but would have to sell organs [00:55]
decimation does your o-scope have a 'spectrum analyzer' mode? [00:55]
asciilifeform decimation: yes but entirely useless for this application. [00:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 147533 @ 0.00032249 = 47.5779 BTC [+] {2} [00:56]
asciilifeform decimation: the rf amp is the golden toilet [00:56]
asciilifeform i only have the equivalent of a 'copper toilet' here. [00:56]
decimation actually your scanner would be a halfass alternative [00:57]
decimation you can at least measure relative signal strength at select frequencies [00:58]
asciilifeform decimation: what do you suppose i was using. [00:58]
asciilifeform (it's an ancient rs232-controlled scanner, and handheld antenna over 50ohm coax) [00:58]
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decimation heh the icom pcr-1000? [00:59]
asciilifeform 100 [00:59]
decimation I have the 1000, it's a good unit [01:00]
* asciilifeform wonders if -everybody- has this one [01:00]
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decimation there was a windows tool that turned the pcr-1000 into a spectrum analyzer - not fast but it kinda worked [01:03]
asciilifeform any machine-controllable scanner with machine-readable output is a (very) poor man's spectrum analyzer. [01:04]
decimation aye. the problem is that the sweep rate is usually very low [01:05]
decimation and the res bandwidth is not small [01:05]
decimation yeah here's the tool: < works for pcr-100 [01:06]
assbot ... ( ) [01:06]
asciilifeform to round out the keyboard thread, i am quite close to being convinced of the necessity of keyboard with optical fiber for mechanism [01:06]
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asciilifeform or, failing that, mechanical vibration (as in early 'spark gap' cad tablets of the '70s) [01:07]
decimation asciilifeform: you could use the telegraph keyer like that ru chick [01:07]
asciilifeform decimation: damnably poor idea - easy 'optical tempest' intercept if anyone can see your body move [01:07]
decimation well, yeah but presumably normal keyboard is also vulnerable? [01:08]
asciilifeform not to same extent [01:08]
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BingoBoingo !up goofythedog [01:09]
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goofythedog Whats up [01:09]
BingoBoingo nuts [01:09]
goofythedog Why [01:10]
BingoBoingo puppies [01:10]
goofythedog Yoh got pups? [01:10]
goofythedog Yeh [01:12]
decimation asciilifeform: it's a shame that nobody produces an 'englebart violin' chorded entry device [01:14]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 136010 @ 0.00032473 = 44.1665 BTC [-] {2} [01:20]
* asciilifeform recalls reading patents for fiber keyboards but never saw any hint of such a thing in production. [01:23]
asciilifeform though the 'how' is trivial. [01:23]
asciilifeform << unrelated [01:26]
assbot Ben Krasnow: DIY scanning electron microscope - Overview video ... ( ) [01:26]
decimation lol that's awesome [01:35]
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BingoBoingo !up shesek [01:48]
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asciilifeform << vintage rf lulz [01:58]
assbot ... ( ) [01:58]
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decimation asciilifeform: one wonders why some of this kind of thing has appeared to 'stick' to hillary but hasn't to obama [02:10]
mircea_popescu Subject: Welcome to Bitstamp From: "Bitstamp" [02:10]
mircea_popescu nuts. [02:10]
mircea_popescu if anyone was wondering how those "users" keep going up... [02:12]
decimation mircea_popescu: the first rule of customer service is to ignore the customer [02:12]
mircea_popescu i am not a customer. [02:13]
mircea_popescu they are spamming what's most likely a bought list. [02:13]
mircea_popescu " Content preview: Dear Alare Kool, thank you for registering at Bitstamp exchange service! At this point you have just contributed a great deal to future of decentralized monetary market." [02:13]
mircea_popescu in other words "redditards, welcome!" [02:13]
mircea_popescu "grammer, potional." [02:14]
decimation re: fake drug seizures < if you drill down in the report, you find that 96% of the 'ditchweed' was destroyed in just one state: indiana [02:17]
decimation I'm sure they found a way to game the feds out of bezzlars in exchange for piles of fake weed [02:18]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: sounds like forged headers (why would the actual 'bitstamp' spam ? wtf is the point) [02:19]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: do the links contained in the turd point to the genuine site ? [02:19]
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decimation lolz > < can bruteforce the 4-digit pin on the iphone 5 in 40 seconds [02:20]
assbot MDSec Blog: Apple iOS Hardware Assisted Screenlock Bruteforce ... ( ) [02:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62274 @ 0.00029596 = 18.4306 BTC [-] [02:21]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i dunno, so they can claim the most valuable email address in bitcoin space as "a customer" ? [02:22]
asciilifeform 'What is surprising however is that this still works even with the “Erase data after 10 attempts” configuration setting enabled. Our initial analysis indicates that the IP Box is able to bypass this restriction by connecting directly to the iPhone’s power source and aggressively cutting the power after each failed PIN attempt, but before the attempt has been synchronized to flash memory.' << mega-l0l! [02:22]
mircea_popescu Received: from ([]:55581 [02:22]
mircea_popescu it's them alright. [02:22]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: someone signed you up as a gag ? [02:23]
decimation asciilifeform: yeah. apple supposedly spent years trying to make the device secure [02:23]
decimation but it has encrypted storage!!! [02:23]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform right. [02:23]
mircea_popescu Please write down the following login information [02:24]
mircea_popescu Client ID: 051013 [02:24]
mircea_popescu Password: /lf!iqkR7d!1 [02:24]
mircea_popescu The above password has been automatically generated. You should change it as [02:24]
mircea_popescu soon as you log in for the first time. [02:24]
mircea_popescu this, you will note, in a PLAINTEXT EMAIL. [02:24]
BingoBoingo [02:25]
assbot So how's magic work ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [02:25]
asciilifeform l0ltr0n [02:25]
asciilifeform re: iPnohe bruteforcer - apple could have easily written 1) update counter 2) validate code instead of 1) validate code 2) update counter [02:25]
asciilifeform but - didn't. [02:25]
asciilifeform not that it would have made a serious difference in the end - [02:26]
asciilifeform but shows how much of a fuck was actually given [02:26]
decimation asciilifeform: the ultimate problem is not actually having a secure terminal, but pretending that you do [02:26]
asciilifeform no shit [02:26]
decimation if you read the apple whitepaper on the iphone 5 security, you see they play all kinds of shell games attempting to keep keys in temporary buffers so that the storage can be 'encrypted' while still able to receive texts, unlock screen, etc [02:27]
asciilifeform 'fried ice' [02:28]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo was just answering that. [02:28]
mircea_popescu but shows how much of a fuck was actually given << or how much of a fuck was available to give. [02:28]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: It's just the cascade of fail yudo shits out [02:29]
mircea_popescu deup ftw. [02:29]
decimation well, they did actually appear to spend alot of time 'giving a fuck' [02:29]
decimation it's just that they failed to deliver anything [02:29]
decimation actually, since apple controls the complete stack all the way down to silicon, they are in a unique position to actually deliever, but didn't [02:30]
asciilifeform deliver what? [02:30]
decimation you know, actual security [02:30]
asciilifeform -actual- means auditable [02:30]
decimation appropriately partitioned code and data [02:30]
asciilifeform and no longer fits in pocket. [02:30]
asciilifeform or, likely, in the room you're sitting in. [02:31]
asciilifeform but certainly not in pocket. [02:31]
decimation and doesn't copy bits off the air and save them to 'encrypted storage' without intervention [02:31]
mircea_popescu << btw, ancient sf of mine. the central idea being that et come, their home atmosphere is heavy in amonia, so they have some special suits to recycle the amonia, which somewhat leak... which leaks smell like... stale piss. [02:31]
assbot Pisatii pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [02:31]
mircea_popescu so the et are known as ... the pissed upons. [02:31]
asciilifeform l0l [02:32]
mircea_popescu also they want two things from earth : hot peppers [02:32]
mircea_popescu and cocaine. [02:32]
mircea_popescu because the hot peppers are like lsd + speed, while cocaine is basically sugar++ [02:32]
decimation I've heard that chicken farmers actually become somewhat immune to the extreme ammonia smell [02:33]
mircea_popescu and they wanted to go to where cocaine is made and congratulate the people on their great discovery. [02:33]
mircea_popescu "Va dati seama, primul pamintean decorat de extraterestri urma sa fie urmasul lui Pablo Escobar." [02:33]
decimation usg helps make roundup resistant cocaine [02:34]
BingoBoingo decimation> usg helps make roundup resistant cocaine << Honestly wouldn't be surprised if the cartels innovated that themselves [02:39]
decimation possibly, but they could probably get started by picking the plants that survived the spraying [02:40]
mircea_popescu well they wouldn't be picking the ones that didn't. [02:41]
BingoBoingo decimation: Around here nearly everything is roundup resistant now [02:45]
decimation heh yeah, but does it reproduce without monsanto? [02:46]
BingoBoingo Oh, I'm not talking the crops [02:46]
ben_vulpes check it out, she's got a wiki page an' errything : << one really can buy anything [02:46]
assbot Shanti Dynamite - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( ) [02:46]
ben_vulpes "Parents divorced at age of 9 years..." << wow jeez that's some painfully bad shit [02:47]
ben_vulpes "it was cold and completely different to Africa" [02:48]
ben_vulpes ;;later tell brendafdez hey where's that shopping list [02:49]
gribble The operation succeeded. [02:49]
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mircea_popescu i imagine it sucks. [02:51]
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ben_vulpes the shopping list? [03:02]
mircea_popescu !up megadeth [03:03]
-assbot- You voiced megadeth for 30 minutes. [03:03]
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megadeth Mircea, a personal thank you from my side for 1) Placing your money on the bitbet. 2) Spending your personal wealth in the well being of BTC. [03:04]
mircea_popescu a ? [03:05]
mircea_popescu cool. [03:07]
ben_vulpes oh man that video of subcontinental sweets is baaaad [03:10]
ben_vulpes i have this idea in my mind that people know what stuff is i guess. << i keep falling for this one too. [03:18]
ben_vulpes if i had a vanilla linux box here, it'd likely be no sweat << heard of a thing called "vagrant"? "virtualbox"? [03:18]
ben_vulpes ;;later tell nubbins "if i had a vanilla linux box here, it'd likely be no sweat" << heard of a thing called "vagrant"? "virtualbox"? [03:19]
gribble The operation succeeded. [03:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 201700 @ 0.00030811 = 62.1458 BTC [-] [03:19]
ben_vulpes i'd never had a ball boy before and it. was. sweet. < heh. [03:21]
ben_vulpes man the temptation to quote out of context is p. strong. [03:21]
ben_vulpes [18:57] but for one thing it's bullshit and for the other thing, it doesn't really wash. << nor do the workmen, and for that matter why would anyone want to be of the unwashed masses? [03:24]
ben_vulpes [19:01] really there was absolutely no reason (apart from their tim swansonesque contemptuous idiocy) to make the nodes visible. << feel free to block nodes if you can find them, reddit. [03:25]
ben_vulpes [19:53] indescript house in omaha, married, with children. about as boring as it gets. << orgies on the yangtzee with bill gates [03:31]
ben_vulpes hey speaking of where are the eager young sluts to be found in bsas? [03:31]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes i was talking about the nodes they were using tro "spy on bitcoin" aka "repackage freely available information for the bezzle idiots" [03:31]
ben_vulpes i brought my own last time so didn't have cause to go seeking, and no time this time. [03:32]
ben_vulpes i'm...aware. [03:33]
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ben_vulpes ;;later tell jurov ben_vulpes rly? you want patches for makeshift build scripts? << look either you run diff or the n people running the list do. [03:35]
gribble The operation succeeded. [03:35]
ben_vulpes s/run/read [03:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109904 @ 0.00029769 = 32.7173 BTC [-] {2} [03:35]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31087 @ 0.00030811 = 9.5782 BTC [+] [03:43]
ben_vulpes << this is the most badass thing [03:47]
assbot /hashtag/OpenBSD?src=hash 5.6 on an Apple iMac G4. [03:47]
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ben_vulpes i am emailing my father right now to see if that model is still in his basement [03:48]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes errywhere. if you folks feel like it we'll go check out the local bdsm club. [03:48]
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mircea_popescu otherwise, prostitution being legal, and the universities being in session... [03:49]
ben_vulpes your reports of the local bdsm scene are *not* a sales pitch. [03:52]
ben_vulpes i've club sesso right down the street. [03:53]
mircea_popescu im not a salesman. [03:53]
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ben_vulpes well have you found something good? [03:53]
ben_vulpes all i hear is "jesus fuck these people are retarded" [03:53]
mircea_popescu that i want to share ? [03:53]
mircea_popescu if it makes you feel any better i was saying the same in teh us. [03:54]
ben_vulpes i'd not presume to encroach on your area [03:54]
mircea_popescu neways, you can has list of pickup places, ie, where the girls go to work. [03:54]
mircea_popescu not that you'd conceivably need it, what they do here is print little 3x2 papers and stick them everywhere. [03:55]
ben_vulpes anyways, no, thank you, i'll not impose that on the gentle asshats [03:55]
mircea_popescu lol which ones ? [03:55]
ben_vulpes the bdsm club heh [03:56]
mircea_popescu ah [03:56]
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mircea_popescu what's this club sesso thning ? [03:57]
mircea_popescu !up shesek [03:57]
-assbot- You voiced shesek for 30 minutes. [03:57]
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mircea_popescu oh, swinger's club. the local thing i visited and cursed closed meanwhile. [03:57]
mircea_popescu who the fuck is ron jeremy [03:58]
mircea_popescu that disco face looks oddly familiar [03:58]
ben_vulpes oh i'm bashing that [03:59]
mircea_popescu "Club Sesso is Portland Oregon's upscale, swingers club." [04:00]
mircea_popescu i, see. [04:00]
mircea_popescu is it any good ? [04:00]
ben_vulpes on a previous branch, i'm far more interested in a) vino b) carne and c) tango than the local whatever whatever [04:00]
ben_vulpes some nights [04:00]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes we're going to this great tango thing [04:01]
ben_vulpes YUSSS [04:01]
ben_vulpes boss u da bes [04:01]
mircea_popescu "Have fun, meet new friends and become a part of the Sesso Community. Become a volunteer at Club Sesso!" dude... [04:01]
mircea_popescu it can't be doing THAT well. [04:01]
ben_vulpes is it one of those silly 'performances' where dinner is stupid expensive and you watch a theatrical thinger? [04:01]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: well if you're going to the events listed on the homepage for noobs... [04:01]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes yes, except good. [04:02]
ben_vulpes look i'm making a reference to the plethora of local fauna. [04:02]
mircea_popescu unless they fuck it up, which... argentines are famously unreliable. [04:02]
ben_vulpes sesso's an intake and filter point. [04:02]
mircea_popescu for coughars ? [04:03]
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ben_vulpes mk well i've got my intel applied to 'milongas that don't mind shitty enthusiastic gringos too much' and also 'milongas where i should just sit and watch' as backup so i'm not terrifically concerned. [04:03]
mircea_popescu "Clean Up Your Own Mess" "upscale" wut! [04:04]
mircea_popescu errything in america is self serve by now innit. [04:04]
ben_vulpes go write an article [04:04]
mircea_popescu no, i'd rather pester you :D [04:04]
ben_vulpes outta mah face! [04:04]
ben_vulpes so actually entertainingly, one of the decent sex parties happens in the warehouse where i used to house the boys. [04:05]
ben_vulpes imagine my surprise. [04:05]
mircea_popescu anyway, we're also going to the place's best porterhouse steak imo, so there is that. [04:05]
mircea_popescu boys = dogs ? [04:05]
mircea_popescu decent = indecent ? [04:05]
mircea_popescu y u kids gotta use code on my god damned lawn! [04:05]
ben_vulpes infer from context! [04:05]
ben_vulpes do a thing you hate and despise! [04:06]
ben_vulpes uh no programmers. [04:06]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: y el vino? [04:07]
mircea_popescu there's no wine. sorry. [04:07]
mircea_popescu the truck broke down. [04:08]
ben_vulpes WHAT [04:08]
ben_vulpes you drank it all [04:08]
ben_vulpes stop lying [04:08]
mircea_popescu normally we get it on friday... [04:08]
ben_vulpes bwahahaha [04:08]
mircea_popescu the cat's eaten it. [04:08]
ben_vulpes stahp i'll wake the girl [04:08]
ben_vulpes that's an excellent argentine [04:08]
mircea_popescu sorry ben, im affraid the wine's more runny than you'd like it./ [04:09]
ben_vulpes please don't tell me [04:09]
ben_vulpes the viscosity is nearly that of water [04:09]
ben_vulpes simply will not do [04:09]
mircea_popescu there's licorice ? [04:10]
mircea_popescu and non alcoholic cider. [04:10]
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ben_vulpes and some stale crackers, no doubt. [04:11]
ben_vulpes OH THERE'S LICORICE IS THER [04:11]
mircea_popescu (tru story : mp was once at a guy's bday party, very smart coder guy. the party - total cockfest. mp's escort only girl in the room. mp sighs and goes got any booze ? [04:11]
mircea_popescu answer comes back as... [04:11]
ben_vulpes o no [04:11]
mircea_popescu so mp goes "go and buy some vodka". everyone (~dozen ppls) gets drunk offa half the bottle. girl drinks other half. her eyebrows slowly but surely keep rising all through the night) [04:12]
ben_vulpes "the last remaining bastion " >> << oh homegirl's about to have some fun [04:12]
assbot ... ( ) [04:13]
mircea_popescu to my great shame, those eyebrows are the only thing i recall of this girl. [04:13]
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mircea_popescu ben_vulpes maybe they just wanna play conect-r with her. [04:13]
ben_vulpes no but look at her face [04:13]
mircea_popescu she looks like she's done this before. [04:14]
ben_vulpes yeah. [04:14]
ben_vulpes you know that gangbang where ladybird's really running the show? [04:15]
ben_vulpes every good one? [04:15]
mircea_popescu which is 80% of them ? [04:15]
mircea_popescu right [04:15]
mircea_popescu it's unavoidable, she's the server, scheduling naturally resides with her, which... [04:15]
ben_vulpes oh ffs [04:15]
ben_vulpes must you really [04:15]
ben_vulpes you see people this is actually the vile shit [04:16]
mircea_popescu ? [04:16]
ben_vulpes we're talking about ordinary gangbangs [04:16]
ben_vulpes and mircea_popescu must MUST *MUST* start talking about servers [04:16]
ben_vulpes fucking disgusting, i tell you. [04:17]
mircea_popescu do not hate me because i'm an abstract thinker [04:17]
mircea_popescu or ima complain to elikbez'r yadukoksky [04:17]
mircea_popescu or w/e his name is. [04:17]
ben_vulpes Successfully added a rating of 1 for brendafdez with note: no such thing as a chick that can pgp << hawwwww [04:19]
ben_vulpes and even taught to a girl << contrary to public opinion this is not really a feat [04:20]
mircea_popescu yeah what's with all teh sexisms! [04:20]
mircea_popescu buncha chicks in assbot's wot. [04:21]
ben_vulpes babes are people too and generally smarter than the doodz in the w0t [04:21]
ben_vulpes come onnnnn log only 300 lines left [04:21]
ben_vulpes [03:20] ' survival kit is complete without silver bullets...' << this is actually a lot more sensible than it seems. silver has some good chars for making a bullet. << no no no no no and again no [04:21]
ben_vulpes bullets are dead [04:21]
mircea_popescu ... [04:22]
mircea_popescu what do you think sperm is ? [04:22]
ben_vulpes to give away *even more* of the game what we're after is mini solids with vanes in the exhaust that protrude out from the projectile body. [04:22]
ben_vulpes kinetic energy can be purchased with different distributions of mass and gas. [04:23]
ben_vulpes rifling PAUGH [04:23]
mircea_popescu ... [04:23]
mircea_popescu what is this, superhero quailshot ? [04:23]
ben_vulpes chip and servos. [04:25]
ben_vulpes not precisely buckshot, no. [04:25]
* mircea_popescu is kinda happy with guns as they are. [04:25]
ben_vulpes include pyrotechnics for...pyrotechnics. [04:25]
mircea_popescu one of the few fields humanity got mostly right. [04:25]
ben_vulpes guns do not give you air superiority. [04:26]
ben_vulpes cannot demolish cover. [04:26]
ben_vulpes myriad applications i'll leave for eager students. [04:27]
mircea_popescu "air superiority" is for the birds. [04:27]
ben_vulpes >.< [04:28]
ben_vulpes pluck them mid-flight [04:28]
ben_vulpes ugh i can't unsee that pun [04:29]
mircea_popescu if what you're doing requires "air superiority" you're essentially trying to construct a nuclear-powered lawnmover [04:29]
mircea_popescu mower* [04:29]
mircea_popescu these don't exist not because "it wouldn't be cool", but because it'd be pretty dumb. [04:30]
ben_vulpes i'm thinking about floaty things that map out battlefields when floating unpricked around the battlefield. [04:30]
ben_vulpes not jets, etc. [04:30]
mircea_popescu let [04:31]
mircea_popescu 's put it in an easier context. [04:31]
mircea_popescu what can be said about the kid who gets into a fight his first day in the new school ? [04:31]
mircea_popescu if you're fighting over terrain you do not know you've got a whole heap of problems, each much bigger than anything a buzzard flying by could solve. [04:32]
mircea_popescu this is scarce consolation to the poor schmucks sent to die in the trenches, of course, but we're here discussing the larger problem [04:32]
ben_vulpes perhaps i misspeak when i say "superiority" rather than pointing at the value in denying others ownership of a space. [04:35]
ben_vulpes "fly your jet through here, i dare you." type of approach. [04:35]
mircea_popescu yeah. this of course only works to "me too" monkeys. [04:36]
ben_vulpes hm? [04:36]
mircea_popescu note that the chinese very smartly did not do what the usians expected them to do in the 70s/80s (an exact rehash of the 60s/70s russian idiocy of trying to copy them and lose at it, Мы вас похороним! and all that, [04:37]
mircea_popescu instead of making 25 atomic carriers to the us' dozen, they just made small cheap rockets) [04:37]
mircea_popescu thus, they're not bankrupt, and will in fact bury the us. [04:37]
ben_vulpes if i can do nothing on my own, i can learn from those who do understand strategy. [04:38]
mircea_popescu there's a reason for the yawning geopoliticomilitary chasm centering around pekin, and that cause is that the top brass of the us centcom failed to guess cca 1980. [04:39]
ben_vulpes if i understand you correctly, i find myself surrounded by 'me too monkeys'. [04:39]
mircea_popescu you familiar with the "there's nothing worse for a good startup than a bad revenue source early on" quip ? [04:39]
ben_vulpes sure. relevance here, though? [04:39]
mircea_popescu the one thing that'll ruin a bright young mind is success among idiots. [04:40]
mircea_popescu elitism has its protective advantages, especially for teh youth. [04:40]
ben_vulpes :( [04:40]
ben_vulpes well hey i hang out here. [04:40]
mircea_popescu not that it's teh panacea or anything [04:40]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes lol im sure you'll be fine. [04:40]
ben_vulpes hopefully that bears some prophylaxis. [04:40]
ben_vulpes /s/bears/conveys [04:41]
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thestringpuller ^whoa [04:43]
mircea_popescu wouldja look att hat. [04:43]
ben_vulpes dude that is the most cryptic apparent nonsequiter. [04:43]
ben_vulpes i'm going to think about it for days, come up with some interpretation, regurgitate it in public to many guffaws [04:43]
thestringpuller after screaming at cal3d for 5 hours [04:44]
thestringpuller i had to drink myself into a stupor [04:44]
ben_vulpes is that a pre-ipo price for mpoe? [04:44]
thestringpuller no [04:45]
thestringpuller pre owners-share block price tho [04:45]
mircea_popescu nah, it ipo'd something like 2-6k [04:45]
mircea_popescu yeah that was what, 37 iirc ? [04:45]
ben_vulpes ah so btcalpha doesn't have complete history? [04:45]
thestringpuller something like that [04:45]
thestringpuller no [04:45]
scoopbot New post on by cazalla: [04:45]
thestringpuller only kako has dat ;) [04:45]
ben_vulpes ;;later tell mike_c dude just fork over the coin for a socket from kakobrekla [04:45]
gribble The operation succeeded. [04:45]
mircea_popescu what was "evolution" ? [04:46]
mircea_popescu sounds like an ubuntu torrent client [04:46]
ben_vulpes anyways, i'm off. [04:47]
ben_vulpes sweet dreams, butt-asses. [04:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 140000 @ 0.0002995 = 41.93 BTC [+] {3} [04:48]
mircea_popescu cazalla << the 48k looks more like 1000ish actually there in the past week ? [04:48]
assbot Bitcoin Address 1Ps2m56aEudGVKj7ch8mAje4x6bBzGVNgU ... ( ) [04:48]
cazalla mircea_popescu, who really knows, all rumour and innuendo at this point [04:49]
mircea_popescu myeah [04:49]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: i have great idea for mpex listing. i pretend to own hash power, so i take investor money and pay new investors with it! [04:50]
thestringpuller this is what I got from old story [04:50]
mircea_popescu no !? [04:50]
mircea_popescu "The other model Hariezer lays out is that magic lies on a single recessive gene. He reasons squibs have one dominant, non-magical version, and one recessive magical version of the gene. So of kids born to squibs, 1/4 will be wizards. In this version, you either have magic or you don’t, so if wizards married the non-magical, wizards themselves could become more rare, but the power of wizards won’t be diluted. C [04:52]
mircea_popescu all this model 2." [04:52]
mircea_popescu motherfucker. i am so sick and tired of this cloying tiresome pedestrian understanding of genetics. [04:53]
mircea_popescu the single alele pair model is in the books because fucking peas exhibit it, and because it's easy to teach to biologists, who are people who are bad at basic arithmetics. [04:53]
thestringpuller what were those square things called again? [04:53]
mircea_popescu irl, most loci have MULTIPLE aleles. [04:53]
thestringpuller putin squares? [04:53]
mircea_popescu there's places with 30+ genes, of which multiple are dominant. [04:54]
mircea_popescu if the gene for being a total fucktard has genes A through P and a through w, where upcase ones are dominant, it may be the case that the AD kid is the geniusest of them all and the BG kid is the total fucking retardest of the lot, way behind ww or ft or whatever the fuck other recessive combo [04:55]
mircea_popescu the total possible combinations are [04:56]
mircea_popescu ;;calc (16 + 23) ** 2 [04:56]
gribble 1521 [04:56]
mircea_popescu that's 1.5k different types for just that one pair! [04:56]
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mircea_popescu and it is unlikely but technically possible that you actually require a TRISOMY to get the topmost performance. [04:57]
mircea_popescu which may put it in the billions to one odds of happening, which means that we know enough about genetics since the genome has been sequenced to make judgements about on par with the quality of the pseudoscience that gave us "global warming" and "carbon" [04:58]
mircea_popescu (trisomy is usually a copy of one or the other gene, but it doesn't actually have to be - it could be a mix of them, which ~could~ be a legitimate new gene, if mindbogglingly improbable) [04:59]
mircea_popescu (conversely, it's usually the case that you do require a trisomy or other polysomy to get the actual worst performance available - kids with such genetic defects are almost universally retarded and sterile) [05:01]
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chetty well epigenetics is starting to be explored, but its so politically incorrect no one will talk much about it [05:37]
mircea_popescu yet idiots talking about nonsense abound [05:44]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform why doesn't it really work again ? [14:04]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform why doesn't it really work again ? [14:05]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller nice one. [14:09]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if asking about the 'second kbd controller as jammer' - the small physical differences (esp. in the quartz oscillator) add up to a distinguishable 'fingerprint' which lets enemy pull a particular kbd signal out of a room full of'em [14:09]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: if about hypothetical purpose-built jammer - keyboard scan matrix in particular is a moving target, as the frequency of the telltale signal will vary considerably depending on which key(s) are pressed [14:10]
mircea_popescu i was simply thinking a 2nd kbd with a rng tied to it closing circuits. [14:11]
asciilifeform aha [14:11]
asciilifeform that was my thought [14:11]
mircea_popescu but re-reading, you actually mean the mechanical keyboard pressing is the source [14:11]
asciilifeform the closing of the matrix circuits [14:12]
asciilifeform so yes [14:12]
mircea_popescu well...maybe ? [14:12]
chetty so wrap you kbd in a faraday cage? [14:13]
asciilifeform (and it is also interesting to think about what actually happens on the mechanical contacts. 'key bounce' is not only an annoyance for engineers, but a gift to radiodiddlers, as each spring - and rubber domes not excepted - has characteristic wear) [14:13]
mircea_popescu who knew that ipad style on-screen kbds will actually have at least one advantage ? [14:13]
mircea_popescu unwieldy as theyare. [14:13]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: those can be 'heard' for considerable distances by intercepting lcd feed [14:13]
mircea_popescu yes, but "shield the screen" vs "shield the screen and shield the keyboard" [14:14]
asciilifeform i looked into keyboards made of optical fibres, and found none in commercial circulation. looked if anyone has admitted to experimenting with such, and found no credible data - but, interestingly, folks have built mice on this principle, for use inside mri scanners. [14:15]
asciilifeform (mice are easy - just pipe picture from the business end of standard optical mouse, hollowed out, into a remote cabinet to which its guts have been moved) [14:16]
asciilifeform shielding even a screen is nontrivial. [14:17]
asciilifeform << unrelated but interesting from historical standpoint re: usg and practical use of rsa [14:25]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform i was thinking btw, faraday cage is essentially a passive radiator element. what if made active ? [14:36]
mircea_popescu make a sort of cyclotron in your living room, all electrons end up on the plate. [14:36]
chetty ouch, worse than having a fan run while you sleep [14:39]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform let's forget optical fibres for a second and consider this : on a standard keyboard, making a spoke portrude from each key so that from a width-long perspective each spoke is separated by any other is trivial mechanically. lighting one width and sticking a camera on the other width then resolves the problem, [14:39]
mircea_popescu you now have optical keypress [14:39]
mircea_popescu chetty i guess so does all your dust plus the cats, huh [14:39]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: faraday cage is not (if correctly constructed) a radiating element at all [14:46]
mircea_popescu hence passive. it is still a radiator in my theoretical view of things, because it COULD [14:47]
mircea_popescu anyway, make mesh of two wires, so that on each hole you have at least one spot of wire at - potential and one spot at + potential. then the size of the hole and the intensity of the emission tell you how much potential you need in the cage. [14:48]
mircea_popescu for an arbitrary % of electron escape [14:49]
asciilifeform photon [14:49]
mircea_popescu particle. [14:49]
mircea_popescu hm. [14:49]
mircea_popescu dangit [14:49]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: spoke portrude from each key << manual typewriter. invitation for acoustic snoopery. (and camera - radiates.) [14:54]
chetty dont forget the tin hat [14:56]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform the spoke doesn't touch anything [14:56]
mircea_popescu just goes down a quarter inch or w/e,. into the air. [14:56]
asciilifeform the 'tin hat' was always especially funny to folks who actually know a little physics, because parabolic antenna focused on brain. [14:56]
mircea_popescu well amygdalla, but yeah [14:56]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: into air, sure. and it vibrates. and no two spykes same length [14:57]
mircea_popescu oh.come.on. [14:57]
mircea_popescu is this your ploy to make me invent thought typing for you ? [14:57]
asciilifeform l0l [14:57]
mircea_popescu :) [14:57]
asciilifeform gedankenexperiment to wake folks up that keyboard for secure work ought to be 1) yes, mechanical 2) physically smallest that one can abide [14:58]
chetty well you can start with something like dragon speak and improves it :) [14:58]
asciilifeform ugh speaking [14:58]
asciilifeform fuck speaking [14:58]
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asciilifeform and yes, ultimate kbd ought to be something you can use with your hands in a sack (of conductive cloth naturally.) [14:59]
mircea_popescu !up GlobalSolutions [15:00]
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GlobalSolutions Its ok, I can type [15:00]
GlobalSolutions Just here to learn... [15:00]
mircea_popescu !down GlobalSolutions [15:00]
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mircea_popescu kay. [15:00]
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assbot An Important Statement from President Wallace Loh | UMD Right Now :: University of Maryland ... ( ) [15:02]
mircea_popescu "the Office of Civil Rights and Sexual Misconduct" [15:03]
mircea_popescu wait. what ?! [15:03]
asciilifeform part ii: [15:03]
assbot Office of the President, University of Maryland ... ( ) [15:03]
mircea_popescu "The University of Maryland remains committed to our core values of respect for human dignity, diversity, and inclusiveness." [15:03]
mircea_popescu the university of maryland is a fraud. those can't be the core values of an university. [15:04]
chetty got to love that freedom of speech right [15:04]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: american universities got cancer long ago ('60s) but now there is scarcely one detectable cell from the original patient at all, only tumour. [15:05]
mircea_popescu myeah. [15:05]
asciilifeform there was perhaps a few shredded flaps of still-chromosomally-passable tissue when i was a student there, a decade ago. [15:06]
mircea_popescu such nonsense tho. "our police department remains comitted to our core values of donuts and shooting the nigger" [15:06]
mircea_popescu "hey, that's exactly what should NOT be a value of yours, core or no core" [15:06]
mircea_popescu an university is by definition dedicated to exclusiveness. [15:07]
mircea_popescu it exists so as to exclude the scum so people who can think can do so, and young people who could one day think can come there to be away from their idiot families, small towns and government. [15:08]
mircea_popescu and as a side note, that's how probation came to be : originally clerics (ie, university students y compris) could claim eclesiastic jurisdiction before they lay court, and be taken before their rector to be judged there. [15:09]
mircea_popescu it was quickly limited to a "first offense only" thing [15:09]
mircea_popescu and it survived to this day [15:09]
mircea_popescu it is incidentally the model upon which i see the most serene republic coming to an agreement with the obsolete "states" : bitcoiners are outside of lay jurisdiction, and to be judged by bitcoin court. [15:10]
asciilifeform the latest lulz from umd almost beats the noose incident. [15:11]
asciilifeform (5 or so yrs ago, there was 'mass indignation', hastily-cooked mea culpas from virtually all organizations in any way connected with the campus, demonstrations 'of support' for 'the victims' - after a shred of rope was allegedly found hanging on a tree branch.) [15:12]
asciilifeform [15:13]
assbot Campus Noose Sparks Hate Crime Probe - ABC News ... ( ) [15:13]
asciilifeform iirc it ended with something like a confession from whoever saw it that 'noose' was no noose at all, but a piece of garbage the wind carried [15:14]
mircea_popescu lol [15:14]
asciilifeform and the idiot parade quietly vanished [15:14]
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mircea_popescu without anyone ever saying they were wrong, or stupid. [15:18]
mircea_popescu because they can't be wrong, or stupid, because they're smart and special. [15:18]
asciilifeform no prizes for guessing this. [15:18]
mircea_popescu perfect reason to actually hang them. [15:18]
asciilifeform !s sistine chapel ceiling [15:18]
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mircea_popescu heh [15:18]
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asciilifeform or more pertinent example, the fabricated mega-gang-rapes of recent history [15:19]
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asciilifeform 'sympathy', 'support', esp. of the usg-sponsored very tangible/financial variety is on tap, no questions asked. imagine if insurance worked this way - how many houses would still remain standing ? [15:20]
asciilifeform the mechanism in question actually -needs- exercise once in a while, or rusts. hence the increasingly lulzy faux mega-outrages and their regularity [15:22]
asciilifeform (thoughtcrimey email, from one drunken student to another, 15 months ago !?!) [15:23]
asciilifeform 'On Tuesday, March 10, 2015, the University of Maryland became aware of an email dated January 2014, 15 months ago. The vulgar language in the email expresses views that are reprehensible to our campus community. We immediately met with the individual involved and a University investigation is currently underway, led by the Office of Civil Rights and Sexual Misconduct. We are in contact with the University chapter of Kappa Sig [15:23]
asciilifeform ma and they have taken swift and decisive action in this matter. At their request, the University has committed to provide educational training on diversity and respect for the entire fraternity. The University of Maryland remains committed to our core values of respect for human dignity, diversity, and inclusiveness. We are deeply saddened by the impact this email is having on our community.' [15:23]
asciilifeform ^ copied here for the record [15:24]
asciilifeform because the morons think they can magic their own spew away when it turns embarrassing. [15:24]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: nice what? article? lol [15:32]
mircea_popescu yes., [15:32]
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mats it falls [15:57]
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coinking Hey guys, any BitBet mods around? [16:03]
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mats [16:03]
assbot The Lost Art of C Structure Packing ... ( ) [16:04]
asciilifeform mats: lost!?! l0l! [16:04]
mats esr sez so [16:04]
asciilifeform mats: incidentally, precise packings are not achievable without gcc pragma (or your compiler's equivalent) [16:04]
asciilifeform on of the 1,001 ways in which 'c' specification is a sad joke. [16:05]
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asciilifeform and it is entirely non-negotiable if you're dealing with a hardware register where the bits have to fall -just so- [16:05]
asciilifeform or even if you're writing something as mundane as a disassembler. [16:06]
asciilifeform (you can achieve the desired layout with bitshifts and logic ops, and end up introducing hidden platform dependencies - endian and wordsize) [16:07]
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assbot - Adult Webmaster Forum - View Single Post - For Sale Virtual Credit Cards (VCC) - Many Denominations - Instant Delivery - US & INTL Billing AVS ... ( ) [16:16]
danielpbarron re: the GlobalSolutions guy ^ [16:16]
mike_c coinking: better to just ask your question. [16:17]
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coinking ok cool, sure. I wanted to inquire about Content Management for BitBet - and if there was a want for Social Media Marketing & Management [16:18]
kakobrekla you want to promote bitbet? [16:20]
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coinking yeah, looking to offer my services to the twitter page [16:22]
coinking or any other social sites [16:23]
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nubbins` bitbet has a twitter page? [16:23]
coinking I found one that was pretty inactive [16:24]
danielpbarron what are you talking about inactive? [16:24]
danielpbarron the thing tweets daily if not hourly [16:24]
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coinking oh maybe I was looking at a different one [16:24]
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danielpbarron there are two; one tweets new bets and the other tweets individual bids on them [16:25]
nubbins` oh look [16:25]
nubbins` @BitBets and @BitBetsBets [16:26]
coinking there's always room for improvements :) [16:26]
mike_c coinking: they have an affiliate program if you want to do promotion. [16:26]
coinking cool, I'll check it out [16:26]
mike_c [16:27]
assbot FAQ BitBet ... ( ) [16:27]
kakobrekla well here is the thing, i am not paying a flat fee to someone to derp around on btc-poor social sites to gather 'likes', 'digs', 'twits' and 'impressions' which do not bring in bettors. but if you actually can bring in people with btc, use affiliate program to collect your reward. [16:27]
coinking I have a lot of good contact within crypto and have current and past clients as references. It's about perspective, the leads I bring as crypto enthusiasts yet building your social pages is never a bad move. It just depends on how much you think it's worth. It think long term it is something important in a business and has a direct impact on the bu [16:31]
coinking siness as a whole [16:31]
kakobrekla ;;gettrust coinking [16:32]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user kakobrekla to user coinking: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: never [16:32]
kakobrekla aha. [16:32]
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asciilifeform obligatory ^ [16:33]
assbot Delusionist ... ( ) [16:33]
mats fun fact: zeroing a file in windows may actually leave the contents on the disk intact. [16:34]
asciilifeform zeroing a file anywhere you don't have direct access to the blocks may leave the contents on the disk [16:36]
asciilifeform and btw this includes all modern hdd. [16:36]
mats fun fact: the UIPI clipboard format whitelist is permissive enough to allow for exploitation of particular programs on 7 and 8. [16:37]
kakobrekla !up coinking [16:38]
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mats additionally, MS has indicated several times that 'UAC' is not actually a security boundary [16:38]
kakobrekla anyway, get in the wot why dont you [16:38]
asciilifeform mats: on top of that is the mega-lol where winblows uac is the only usg-blessed 'security boundary' mechanism... [16:38]
coinking wot? [16:38]
danielpbarron !h [16:39]
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mats so you can e.g. abuse auto-elevation behavior in COM (win7, 8) and use a save file dialog in paint as an elevated iexplore [16:39]
asciilifeform aha [16:40]
mats MS knows, says: feature [16:40]
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asciilifeform pheature! [16:40]
coinking how do I enter? [16:41]
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danielpbarron coinking, do you know how to GPG? [16:42]
coinking no I don't [16:43]
mats another fun fact: you can physically damage XP installations via ACPI parsing and NtSystemDebugControl, entirely in usermode [16:43]
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danielpbarron coinking, [16:44]
assbot Please To PGP (Guide for Linux, OS X, Windows) | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( ) [16:44]
coinking we can't just have a private convo on here? [16:45]
danielpbarron GPG is for proving who you are between sessions [16:45]
coinking ah ok [16:46]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: yes., << well ty. [16:49]
coinking so is it only for mac? [16:50]
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danielpbarron no [16:50]
mircea_popescu because the morons think they can magic their own spew away when it turns embarrassing. << b-a logs will become the most interesting resource in not many years. [16:59]
mircea_popescu coinking social what ? [17:00]
mircea_popescu !up coinking [17:00]
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nubbins` [17:01]
assbot Logged on 16-03-2015 17:06:07; nubbins`: log would make a worthy tome, if one were able to sieve it first [17:01]
mircea_popescu quite. [17:02]
mircea_popescu well... get some teeny girlies on it. [17:02]
mircea_popescu that's the traditional socioeconomic use for fillies in human societies. [17:02]
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scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: [17:10]
coinking Social media management, that's what I was inquiring about [17:11]
coinking I'm not sure who is directly involved in this project so I'll just me sending an email [17:12]
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kakobrekla if you are going to write to , i will be reading it [17:24]
coinking cool, should be there. It's trickier to chat about it through IRC so you will see from my email my personal details. [17:28]
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chetty Social media management//omg has it really come to that? [17:31]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: << mega-interesting [17:41]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the scope traces show a working rng, even. [17:41]
asciilifeform i did notice weird side terminals on the caps, thought it was a manufacturing artifact. [17:42]
asciilifeform plainly visible in [17:43]
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asciilifeform (see upper left hand corner of photo, for instance) [17:43]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker [17:43]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 265.44, Best ask: 265.63, Bid-ask spread: 0.19000, Last trade: 265.64, 24 hour volume: 64508.08782313, 24 hour low: 263.01, 24 hour high: 288.3, 24 hour vwap: None [17:43]
mircea_popescu !up vorandrew [17:48]
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mike_c so normal fuckup then, not even massively incompetent. [17:50]
mike_c it's nice that they figured it out. [17:51]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform aha! i wonder what the bug would have been [17:51]
mircea_popescu oh it's explained. [17:52]
mircea_popescu they have that massive an infrastructure that they cache the application !? [17:52]
vorandrew Does anybody know who is trading BTC difficulty CFD/Futures? [17:53]
mircea_popescu !gettrust vorandrew [17:53]
assbot Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user vorandrew: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. | | [17:53]
mircea_popescu nobody trades anything with people without a wot. [17:53]
vorandrew working on it [17:53]
mircea_popescu but otherwise, most public-facing diff futures seems to happen on bitbet. [17:54]
mircea_popescu sort of thing [17:55]
assbot BitBet - Bitcoin difficulty at or above 2B before Feb 2014 :: 1750.25 B (93%) on Yes, 136.67 B (7%) on No | closed 1 year 1 month ago ... ( ) [17:55]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform is this factually true, that you had the wrong part in there for a while, then switched it out to the right part and ordered immediately ? [18:12]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i switched through a number of offered substitute parts, one of which may well have been this inductor-capacitor combo (erroneously offered as circuit-equivalent) [18:13]
mircea_popescu aha [18:13]
BingoBoingo So, once you finalize a thing in their webapp you gotta sit on the page for a couple hours just to make sure the cache is sync'd or... [18:15]
mircea_popescu well hopefully they fixed it. [18:15]
mircea_popescu so let me ask you this composite question : [18:15]
mircea_popescu if the world was working as it did before computers, ascii would have been one of the few people with pen and paper, and wrote a description to one of the few people who made what he needed, and by virtue of that fewness they'd have actually been friends. the letter took a week to get there, the work took a week to be done, and so a month later alf has his peas or w/e he's needing for alchemy. [18:16]
mircea_popescu as the work works now, software makes everything much easier and faster. errors especially. [18:17]
mircea_popescu as a result... a month later alf does not have his peas. [18:17]
mircea_popescu please to progress on the dotted line. [18:17]
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asciilifeform pr0gre55!1111!11 [18:17]
mircea_popescu "it takes us a second to do things that took a lifetime before - and they come with the guarantee of being something else entirely!" [18:18]
mircea_popescu it's easy, and fun. [18:19]
asciilifeform but if playing that gedanken-game fairly, possibly the 'progress' is in my being able to get things at all without serious moneys [18:19]
mircea_popescu depends how marginal you are. [18:19]
* asciilifeform is pretty marginal [18:19]
mircea_popescu if you're in the 1% that did then as it does now, the fact that there's a further aspirational 19% added to the pot does not help you [18:19]
mircea_popescu hopefully does also not hinder you, although... [18:19]
asciilifeform probably hanging from somewhere in that 19th, like that schmuck swinging from the last chopper out of saigon [18:20]
mircea_popescu how would we find this out ? [18:20]
asciilifeform idk just pulled from arse [18:20]
asciilifeform subjective perception. [18:21]
mircea_popescu no, i know. the problem with gedanken experiments is that they necessarily won't fit the reality [18:21]
asciilifeform based on rough eyeball of the kind of things can and cannot afford [18:21]
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mircea_popescu sort-of like the stair of no return, once you left you can't walk back [18:21]
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asciilifeform see, if i were the kind of fella who has money, would not have been having any of the problem described in this tale. would have either seen the boards made within a week (actual business relationship with factory, sleep ad libitum and fly in to supervise in person with own eyes) or would have a legit conveyor with requisite machinery in-house, and same [18:24]
mircea_popescu it's not a simple matter of money, as money's not invariant over the cases we discuss. [18:25]
asciilifeform 'money' in the allocator sense (see old mircea_popescu thread about subsistence vs capital-allocator) [18:25]
asciilifeform or the 'percent of pie' sense discussed in possibly same thread [18:26]
mircea_popescu but you don't need that. you merely need to be deemed by a major capital allocator worthy of the allocation. [18:26]
mircea_popescu the us congress does not particularly think loyd austin of the army is very smart, [18:27]
mircea_popescu nor are the billions being spent his own personal pocket money he could buy icecream with otherwise. [18:27]
asciilifeform well yes. that is normally how it works. [18:28]
mircea_popescu also throws a monkey wrench in our guesswork. [18:29]
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mircea_popescu where's that oglaf [18:29]
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asciilifeform this is why i always say that victory is far, that 'we' are small and 'they' are - stupid, yes - but gigantic. the entire s.nsa ipo would not have bought a proper pick'n'placer, not even talking about real estate to house it in a place which i could economically get to, etc. [18:30]
asciilifeform and this was at 'peak btc-usd' to date [18:30]
asciilifeform deliberately using the goxbubble numbers [18:30]
mircea_popescu well yes. [18:31]
mircea_popescu so we are small and they are tinier still and the world's immense. [18:31]
mircea_popescu which... yeah. [18:31]
asciilifeform 'they', for instance, don't have to split attention between N day jobs [18:32]
asciilifeform or ask around, futile, whether a hosting co. or manufacturing house somewhere might agree to take a little btc business [18:32]
mircea_popescu right. they just win wars in afghanistan. [18:33]
asciilifeform l0l [18:33]
chetty well if it was easy everybody would do it ;) [18:33]
asciilifeform 'they' make $maxint by sending cartloads of meat to get liquified in afghan, and the like [18:33]
mircea_popescu i know a little girl who is a princess. [18:34]
mircea_popescu bout the same thing. [18:34]
mircea_popescu she makes $maxint diamonds by flying unicorns around. [18:34]
mike_c this still seems promising to me. so new little shop had a bug in their order form. doesn't make them useless. [18:35]
asciilifeform mike_c: didn't say 'useless' [18:35]
asciilifeform mike_c: if the thing shows up on fri., and works to spec, then useful, sure [18:35]
asciilifeform mike_c: but i'm still empty-handed for C-III [18:35]
mike_c yeah. debugging is nice, delivering is better. [18:35]
mike_c not empty-handed if they deliver though, right? [18:36]
asciilifeform mike_c: did you actually think the rng was the cargo? rng was exhibited at C-II [18:36]
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mike_c i didn't actually think I knew all the details. so schedule for getting it by c3 is blown? [18:37]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform so tell them that you want them to rush the 2nd joib as much as humanly possible and fly it over. [18:37]
mircea_popescu and don't wait for the boards to show up to put the 2nd job order in, either. [18:37]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i was thinking of doing this. [18:37]
mircea_popescu yeah. not enough $ at risk to be that cautious. [18:38]
asciilifeform mike_c: understand, i cannot blame this particular vendor for the overall pace of the work - only self. (in particular, i am not clever enough to escape from having a fairly intense day job) [18:39]
mircea_popescu yeah, you are a very very bad man. [18:39]
asciilifeform mike_c: the tale with the board house was simply a case of 'wunderwaffen' that did not fire to spec [18:39]
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mike_c i'm not interested in blaming anyone. but if these guys can speed up the schedule, let's keep them working. [18:40]
mike_c all the better if they feel they fked up and need to do better on next round. [18:40]
asciilifeform mike_c: aha [18:40]
asciilifeform mike_c: the other half of that thread was that i had serious doubts re: whether the service offered by mf inc. was actually economically possible as described, and ergo i might be a chump [18:41]
mike_c yeah. seems like it might be legit so far. [18:42]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform corporate moneyz, what do you care. [18:42]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: cared because 'if you don't know precisely who at the table is the chump...' [18:44]
mircea_popescu hehe. [18:44]
mircea_popescu anyway, srsly, it's a reaosnable attempt, go for it. [18:44]
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ben_vulpes why is it crashing [18:56]
ben_vulpes ooh here's a fancy [18:56]
ben_vulpes << via holtzy [18:57]
assbot BlackRock Sovereign Risk Indicator | BlackRock Blog | Global Market Intelligence ... ( ) [18:57]
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assbot Sovereign Risk Indicator | The Big Picture ... ( ) [18:57]
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ben_vulpes dude argentina has a negative willingness to pay? [19:04]
ben_vulpes what bullshit is this. [19:04]
mircea_popescu it does. [19:06]
ben_vulpes clearly i don't understand the term of art. [19:08]
ben_vulpes i was thinking of the money sitting in NY, intended for bondholders. [19:08]
mircea_popescu << that's the correct name, how did you know ? got the same ? [19:09]
assbot Logged on 18-03-2015 13:57:11; nubbins`: ;;later tell mircea_popescu Alare Kool is from Bangladesh! [19:09]
mats [19:09]
assbot Fed removes 'patient': Prepare for an interest rate hike - Mar. 18, 2015 ... ( ) [19:09]
mircea_popescu check it out, fed's reading the logs. [19:09]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes saying they're behaving like a forumite scammer is being generous. [19:10]
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mats i thought the same thing [19:10]
ben_vulpes we're both retarded, mats. [19:10]
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ben_vulpes i must not be reading anything closely enough today. [19:11]
mircea_popescu "Thew, of Radcliffe, Greater Manchester, admitted a Section 4A Public Order Offence (displaying writing or other visible representation with intention of causing harassment, alarm or distress) and was sentenced at Minshull Street Crown Court today." [19:11]
mircea_popescu check out the uk lmao. [19:11]
mircea_popescu !up lsaul [19:11]
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mircea_popescu "hurting people's feelings", a "section 4a public order offence" [19:11]
ben_vulpes last few lines of that article suggest there was a parole violation involved. [19:12]
mats ben_vulpes: i was responding to mircea_popescu there [19:13]
ben_vulpes i'm the idiot today [19:13]
ben_vulpes !down ben_vulpes [19:13]
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mircea_popescu 'To mock or joke about the tragic events of that morning is morally reprehensible and Thew has rightly been convicted and sentenced for his actions. [19:13]
mircea_popescu da fuck. [19:13]
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mircea_popescu speech can not be morally reprehensible for crying out loud. [19:13]
mircea_popescu morals apply to actions. [19:13]
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BingoBoingo << Edu lol [19:19]
assbot University that went bankrupt amid tighter federal scrutiny looks to collect money from former students @insidehighered ... ( ) [19:19]
mircea_popescu << great lol [19:21]
assbot WTF, Evolution?! • "I think I’m kind of over heads." [19:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41800 @ 0.00029588 = 12.3678 BTC [+] [19:22]
mircea_popescu "The closure of a college often leaves students in limbo. Without being able to finish a degree, students must scramble to transfer and to figure out how to deal with the debt they have racked up." [19:22]
mircea_popescu wait, someone actually pays a college that doesn't complete the program ? [19:22]
mircea_popescu what's next, someone brings you half a hambuger and you pay half the price forone ? [19:23]
BingoBoingo Seriously [19:23]
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BingoBoingo College closed, but perviously had been faking Federal loans, nao wants the money back even though its closed. [19:24]
mircea_popescu "Mid-Continent, which first opened in 1949 but received federal student aid only for the past decade or so, caught the attention of regulators at the Education Department in 2011, according to documents obtained by Inside Higher Ed." [19:25]
mircea_popescu talk about embrace and extinguish. [19:25]
asciilifeform they, of course, would say 'we busted a sc4mz0r' [19:25]
ben_vulpes fwiw, the class is the unit of purchase at us scamversity [19:25]
mircea_popescu “It’s not to say that we didn’t have the right information but the problem was being able to produce it quickly and produce it” in the format that the department wanted, Walker said. [19:26]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: where i went it was the 'credit-hour' [19:26]
mircea_popescu i guess they didn;t teach perl. [19:26]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo check it out btw, no fudstorm ensued. [19:28]
BingoBoingo Seriously am surprised [19:28]
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mircea_popescu some signatures better than others. [19:31]
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mircea_popescu in other news, [19:38]
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cazalla [19:44]
assbot Ashley Judd to press charges against Twitter users over sexual harassment | Film | The Guardian ... ( ) [19:44]
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danielpbarron she doesn't want them to say the things, so she encourages them by retweeting it!? [19:51]
danielpbarron she either doesn't know how twitter works, or knows exactly how twitter works [19:53]
davout lol [19:58]
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mircea_popescu who's ashley judd [20:05]
fluffypony who isn't ashley judd! [20:05]
fluffypony I think we're all ashley judd in our own special way [20:05]
fluffypony what can I say, I'm a juddist [20:05]
fluffypony juddist priest [20:05]
mircea_popescu lol o wait, singer-songwriter/actress/newswoman/political activist. i see. [20:05]
mircea_popescu fluffypony well, can you be specific ? [20:06]
fluffypony I have no idea who she is [20:07]
fluffypony I was just rambling [20:07]
fluffypony clearly I'm practicing for the upcoming conference circuit :-P [20:07]
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mircea_popescu lol [20:09]
cazalla mircea_popescu, some bitch in her 40s who pretends she is being sexual harassed on twitter [20:10]
mircea_popescu myeah, about as credible as her pretense to fame, talent et all. [20:12]
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danielpbarron [20:38]
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danielpbarron for those also reading this email dump, 53 is where Hannum finally addresses Theo [20:41]
danielpbarron 54/55 is Theo's response which is quite funny [20:42]
danielpbarron "Charles, i feel your answer to be a rather virtiolic flame." [20:42]
danielpbarron "i'm somewhat unhappy to hear you say what you are saying, or the tone [20:43]
danielpbarron you use. you are not being nice. i do not understand what you expect [20:43]
danielpbarron to gain from saying things as you have." [20:43]
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danielpbarron and yeah, Hannum was clearly the aggressor; Demetriou comes off as trying to make reconciliations [20:46]
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danielpbarron !up vorandrew are your quit/rejoins an attempt to get voice? there are better ways... [20:50]
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vorandrew :) sorry - debugging some start scripts... will find other server [20:53]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron well i certainly didn't go in as far as that [20:53]
BingoBoingo danielpbarron well i certainly didn't go in as far as that << This is why we read. You've got more important stuff to read most of the time. [20:55]
[]bot Bet placed: 10 BTC for No on "BTC to top $500 before 1st May" Odds: 17(Y):83(N) by coin, 17(Y):83(N) by weight. Total bet: 107.9135122 BTC. Current weight: 48,983. [20:55]
mircea_popescu heh, believing that is how i end up dumb. [20:55]
BingoBoingo lol [20:56]
mircea_popescu btw re the entire satoshi thing : anyone ever considered it's maybe a homage to Satoshi Kanazawa ? [20:56]
mircea_popescu one of the lulziest miciurins of all time [20:56]
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mircea_popescu !up danyalos [21:01]
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danyalos Thanks Mircea [21:02]
mircea_popescu sure. who're you ? [21:02]
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danyalos I am here because a close friend of mine told me that I should read #Bitcoin-assets often to learn a couple of things. [21:05]
danyalos So here I am. [21:05]
BingoBoingo Cool [21:08]
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danielpbarron brenda's friend [21:10]
danyalos Do I know you, danielpbarron? [21:14]
[]bot Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Light Sweet Crude Oil (WTI) to drop under $35 before June " Odds: 48(Y):52(N) by coin, 49(Y):51(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.54145355 BTC. Current weight: 94,718. [21:15]
danielpbarron danyalos, not yet [21:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00029735 = 4.3116 BTC [+] [21:17]
BingoBoingo danyalos: Gossip(tm) travels fast [21:18]
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danyalos I thought spammers would not be allowded here. [21:20]
BingoBoingo Depends on one's definition of spam [21:23]
BingoBoingo [21:24]
assbot Spamming reddit, an "experiment". pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [21:24]
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[]bot Bet placed: 3 BTC for No on "BTC to top $413 before Songkran" Odds: 14(Y):86(N) by coin, 15(Y):85(N) by weight. Total bet: 22.93804235 BTC. Current weight: 45,539. [21:44]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 128400 @ 0.00029593 = 37.9974 BTC [-] {3} [21:49]
asciilifeform << historic lulz [21:52]
assbot WW2 justified by former German soldiers - YouTube ... ( ) [21:52]
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TheNewDeal ;;Market -all [22:02]
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TheNewDeal ;;marker [22:02]
gribble Error: "marker" is not a valid command. [22:02]
TheNewDeal ;;Market [22:02]
gribble Error: "Market" is not a valid command. [22:02]
TheNewDeal ;;quit [22:02]
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BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [22:04]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 252.29, vol: 21409.77003160 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 248.214, vol: 23659.70593 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 252.6, vol: 92831.71285624 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 263.19, vol: 58.0251376 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 251.665018, vol: 189755.23020000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 257.47999, vol: 37.66223963 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 264.65119109, vol: 282.21659006 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message) [22:04]
brendafdez !up danyalos [22:04]
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TheNewDeal :) [22:04]
TheNewDeal I was wondering how long it would take the No side to take [22:06]
assbot BitBet - Light Sweet Crude Oil (WTI) to drop under $35 before June :: 1.23 B (48%) on Yes, 1.32 B (52%) on No | closing in 1 month 4 weeks | weight: 94`666 (100`000 to 10`000) ... ( ) [22:06]
brendafdez I'm missing out on bitbet, never cared much about it [22:07]
BingoBoingo brendafdez: It gets interesting, just takes time to internalize what is truly interesting about it. [22:10]
brendafdez I read the trilema posts, that's a start [22:10]
BingoBoingo BitBet is the greatest provider of insurance BTC has ever seen [22:11]
BingoBoingo [22:11]
assbot Interlude: Sport betting isn't that big, Here's what is | Bingo Blog ... ( ) [22:11]
brendafdez Insurance as in hedging? [22:12]
* brendafdez feels so ignorant. [22:12]
TheNewDeal Sure. [22:16]
TheNewDeal Hurricane insirance, theyve got it all [22:16]
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[]bot Bet placed: 5 BTC for No on "BTC to top $700 before 1st July" Odds: 15(Y):85(N) by coin, 15(Y):85(N) by weight. Total bet: 72.33330426 BTC. Current weight: 89,368. [22:17]
BingoBoingo brendafdez: Insurance limited only by your imagination and wallet [22:21]
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BingoBoingo So the Vessenes Foundation is not as sophisticated at vote diddling as East StL [22:28]
assbot ... ( ) [22:28]
ben_vulpes << jurov, would it be feasible to get links to the relevant emails in which patches were transmitted on this page [22:29]
assbot ... ( ) [22:29]
ben_vulpes as in: i'd like the sole entry under submitted by to link to the appropriate sig, as well as all of the entries under 'signed by' as well. [22:29]
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ben_vulpes (perhaps a link to the email list page for the email in which a given patch/signature was transmitted would be even better) [22:31]
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mircea_popescu !up beetcoin [22:36]
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ben_vulpes upstorm! [22:37]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform i wasn't aware anyone thinks ww2 was avoidable ? [22:37]
gabriel_laddel Oh thanks. [22:37]
nubbins` ty [22:37]
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mircea_popescu poor old guy. basically... you're stuck with your own history. once you're old enough, all that's left is explaining it. [22:41]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: linked to illustrate that ^ observation. [22:41]
mircea_popescu mhm [22:41]
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[]bot Bet placed: 25.0646 BTC for No on "BTC to top $500 before 1st May" Odds: 14(Y):86(N) by coin, 15(Y):85(N) by weight. Total bet: 132.9781122 BTC. Current weight: 48,841. [22:50]
TheNewDeal Wow [22:51]
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decimation "We are in contact with the University chapter of Kappa Sigma and they have taken swift and decisive action in this matter. At their request, the University has committed to provide educational training on diversity and respect for the entire fraternity." << asciilifeform: I could imagine this exact phrase being written in the soviet union [22:53]
mircea_popescu << nice guys don't look at the boobage. [22:53]
assbot ... ( ) [22:53]
decimation "Komsomol will take swift action" [22:54]
mircea_popescu decimation the "at their request ... educaitonal training" is more concerning. [22:54]
mircea_popescu for one thing, they know it's nothing short of abuse, hence the "educational training" gauche [22:54]
mircea_popescu btw [22:58]
assbot Scanning Dead Salmon in fMRI Machine Highlights Risk of Red Herrings | WIRED ... ( ) [22:58]
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decimation asciilifeform: the macrofab guy actually did an impressive amount of follow-up [23:02]
gabriel_laddel nubbins`: < "..." meaning? [23:02]
assbot Logged on 13-03-2015 17:02:57; nubbins`: gabriel_laddel:Does anyone take issue with me describing the lordship as "the peerage" and #-assets as "earth's premiere commercial forum"? <<< ... [23:02]
ben_vulpes how is this thread still alive... [23:02]
ben_vulpes "earth's premiere clown car and pornography club" << howzat [23:03]
gabriel_laddel I'm (in an ad-hoc manner) catching up on logs. [23:03]
ben_vulpes oh. [23:03]
ben_vulpes well don't mind me. [23:03]
decimation so he basically subbed a dead short for your capacitor [23:03]
[]bot Bet placed: 10.16739699 BTC for No on "BTC to top $700 before 1st July" Odds: 13(Y):87(N) by coin, 14(Y):86(N) by weight. Total bet: 82.50070126 BTC. Current weight: 89,332. [23:05]
[]bot Bet placed: 5.0356048 BTC for No on "BTC to top $413 before Songkran" Odds: 12(Y):88(N) by coin, 14(Y):86(N) by weight. Total bet: 27.97364715 BTC. Current weight: 45,410. [23:05]
brendafdez ;;buy 1000 USD 12.7 ARS "cash in bs as - price current as of 2015-03-18 updates daily - to place order" [23:05]
gribble Error: For identification purposes, you must be identified via GPG to use the order book. [23:05]
brendafdez ops [23:05]
mircea_popescu actually clown car is probably the worst description. for one thing, b-a's not funny. [23:05]
mircea_popescu for the other, most of the usual clowns hate it. [23:06]
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brendafdez ;;ident brendafdez [23:08]
gribble Nick 'brendafdez', with hostmask 'brendafdez!~brendafde@unaffiliated/brendafdez', is identified as user 'brendafdez', with GPG key id CE5BEE6C81FCA4D4, key fingerprint 59D8599B65A983BF0288E5B6CE5BEE6C81FCA4D4, and bitcoin address None [23:08]
brendafdez ;;buy 1000 USD 12.7 ARS "cash in bs as - price current as of 2015-03-18 updates daily - to place order" [23:08]
gribble Order id 22093 created. [23:08]
brendafdez does it make sense? [23:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 113100 @ 0.00029784 = 33.6857 BTC [+] [23:09]
danielpbarron nope ,,(view 22093) [23:09]
brendafdez :( [23:09]
danielpbarron needs "at" between USD and 12.7 [23:09]
danielpbarron ;;view 22093 [23:10]
gribble #22093 Wed Mar 18 22:04:08 2015 brendafdez BUY 1000.0 USD @ 12.7 ARS (cash in bs as - price current as of 2015-03-18 updates daily - to place order) [23:10]
danielpbarron never [23:10]
danielpbarron nevermind [23:10]
[]bot Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "BTC price to rise above 1oz of gold " Odds: 12(Y):88(N) by coin, 27(Y):73(N) by weight. Total bet: 9.68419713 BTC. Current weight: 14,495. [23:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17950 @ 0.00029784 = 5.3462 BTC [+] [23:27]
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ben_vulpes bitcoin parity with various things is now a sexy bet. [23:33]
ben_vulpes ;;ticker --market xau [23:33]
gribble Error: This is not one of the supported markets. Please choose one of ['bcent', 'okc', 'btcn', 'coinbase', 'cbx', 'btce', 'butter', 'bfx', 'btcavg', 'krk', 'btcde', 'bitmynt', 'btsp'] or 'all' [23:33]
ben_vulpes ;;ticker --currency xau [23:34]
gribble Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later. [23:34]
ben_vulpes ;;ticker --market bitstamp --currency xau [23:34]
gribble Bitstamp BTCXAU ticker | Best bid: 0.228321, Best ask: 0.229068, Bid-ask spread: 0.00075, Last trade: 0.228123, 24 hour volume: 22002.37678990, 24 hour low: 0.2241, 24 hour high: 0.2556, 24 hour vwap: 0.23923387779 [23:34]
TheNewDeal Bitcoin market to reach parity of nyse on mar 1 2020. [23:38]
decimation ;;ticker [23:38]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 254.43, Best ask: 254.52, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 254.45, 24 hour volume: 101179.88568595, 24 hour low: 246.98, 24 hour high: 285.03, 24 hour vwap: None [23:38]
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decimation I wonder how much manipulation is going on before some of those ETFs hit the pink sheets [23:39]
BingoBoingo Quite a bit prolly [23:40]
decimation well, now is the time to buy [23:46]
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ben_vulpes i'll take a few [23:50]
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ben_vulpes or...i would. [23:51]
asciilifeform decimation: subbed a dead short for your capacitor << not a dead short, an inductor-capacitor chimera. perfectly legit item, just not what was specced. [23:57]
asciilifeform << shiva hands! [23:58]
assbot The Perry Bible Fellowship ... ( ) [23:58]
* asciilifeform waits for the inevitable 'that's not shiva' nitpick [23:58]
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