Forum logs for 14 Aug 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

asciilifeform	at some point, one or more of the folks lowered into bitcherasty by usg will have a logical, adequate response.	[00:00]
asciilifeform	with something more than 19th c. tech	[00:00]
mircea_popescu	they don;t really need it.	[00:00]
mircea_popescu	1st century tech is good enough for this task really.	[00:01]
chetty	even cave men could say NO	[00:01]
asciilifeform	'When Dallas firefighters drove by the house, LeGuin allegedly started shooting at them. He hit the fire truck at least twice, police said.'	[00:03]
asciilifeform	^ for non-usaians, this is a result of the peculiar custom of u.s. police using firemen as human shields	[00:03]
asciilifeform	chetty: cave man (or airplane man) is not an automatic born champion at saying 'no'. which is how we got 'the state' to begin with.	[00:04]
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asciilifeform	'LeGuin had told police he was part of the “sovereign citizen” movement, which believes the federal, state and local governments operate illegally.'	[00:07]
asciilifeform	!s sovereign citizen	[00:07]
assbot	2 results for 'sovereign citizen' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=sovereign+citizen	[00:07]
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nubbins`	http://america.aljazeera.com/watch/shows/america-tonight/articles/2014/8/12/alabama-private-probation.html	[00:08]
assbot	Pay up or pay time: Alabama’s private probation industry \| Al Jazeera America	[00:08]
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nubbins`	!s freeman on the land	[00:08]
assbot	1 results for 'freeman on the land' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=freeman+on+the+land	[00:08]
nubbins`	!s freeman	[00:09]
assbot	4 results for 'freeman' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=freeman	[00:09]
asciilifeform	anyone have mircea_popescu's article on these handy ?	[00:09]
nubbins`	shrug	[00:09]
mircea_popescu	didn't i just log it above ?	[00:09]
nubbins`	uh	[00:09]
nubbins`	^	[00:09]
nubbins`	;;google sops site:trilema.org	[00:09]
gribble	No matches found.	[00:09]
nubbins`	boo	[00:09]
mircea_popescu	.com	[00:09]
nubbins`	rly?!	[00:09]
nubbins`	;;google sops site:trilema.com	[00:09]
gribble	The SOPS, or what might you expect from government clerks - Trilema: ; You have no potential. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Octombrie 2013 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.:	[00:09]
asciilifeform	aha this	[00:10]
nubbins`	there was one of these cases here in nl	[00:10]
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nubbins`	the accused was "educated" on the ways of being a freeloader-on-the-land by a mentally ill woman who grew up 4 houses away from me	[00:10]
nubbins`	:0	[00:10]
nubbins`	prior to becoming a life advisor, she'd done stints impersonating a doctor, among other things	[00:11]
asciilifeform	these folks - a classic illustration of how it is not enough to 'say no'	[00:11]
asciilifeform	need to find how to make the 'no' stick.	[00:11]
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nubbins`	http://www.thetelegram.com/News/Local/2013-10-12/article-3427331/Member-of-Freeman-on-the-Land-movement-voices-objections/1	[00:12]
assbot	Member of Freeman-on-the-Land movement voices objections - Local - The Telegram	[00:12]
mircea_popescu	!up Petrodriller	[00:12]
-assbot-	You voiced Petrodriller for 30 minutes.	[00:12]
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nubbins`	!up bats_cd03	[00:12]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform it's sticking already.	[00:12]
asciilifeform	;;google solzhenitsyn axe	[00:12]
gribble	Quote by Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn : “And how we burned in the ...: ; Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn Quotes (Author of One Day in the Life of ...: ; The Gulag Archipelago - Wikiquote: (1 more message)	[00:12]
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nubbins`	To the judge, she said, “Mr. Supernumerary, why are you still speaking? I’m the only one with standing in this courtroom and have the rights.”	[00:13]
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asciilifeform	nubbins`: then, i presume, the men in white coats came in ?	[00:13]
nubbins`	iirc she ended up relenting	[00:14]
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mircea_popescu	problem is all this cost her < a hamburger (which she gets free anyway)	[00:14]
mircea_popescu	it cost the sops prolly close to 1mn.	[00:14]
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mircea_popescu	they only get THAT free if they find someone to beg or steal it off.	[00:15]
nubbins`	book a courtroom, judge, sheriffs officers, all the paperwork that a dozen or two clerks can grab...	[00:15]
nubbins`	anyway, house arrest and probation	[00:15]
nubbins`	http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/amy-collins-sentenced-to-house-arrest-probation-1.2325800	[00:15]
asciilifeform	obligatory:	[00:15]
assbot	Amy Collins sentenced to house arrest, probation - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News	[00:15]
asciilifeform	;;google the art of not being governed	[00:15]
gribble	The Art of Not Being Governed: An Anarchist History ... - Amazon.com: ; The Art of Not Being Governed - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; The Art of Not Being Governed:	[00:15]
asciilifeform	^ canonical book on the history of when extraction was more (or not) expensive for the state, than it is worth	[00:16]
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asciilifeform	(i'll spoil it: with 20th c. tech, virtually always a 'yes')	[00:16]
mircea_popescu	!up warptangent	[00:16]
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nubbins`	fun	[00:16]
mircea_popescu	!up WarriorForum	[00:16]
-assbot-	You voiced WarriorForum for 30 minutes.	[00:16]
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mircea_popescu	!up Unitar	[00:17]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform kinda why the credit bubble is required for usg : because all extraction only works if it costs more than it extracts	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	this being the fundamental of rooslvelt's new deal.	[00:19]
asciilifeform	costs more? backwards?	[00:19]
mircea_popescu	every dollar the usg extracts from anything costs it more than a dollar as a precondition of its continued existence.	[00:20]
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asciilifeform	and still not seeing it. a few mil. people in usa evicted, how many shot at the sheriff? ten?	[00:20]
mircea_popescu	they can only get evicted provided their eviction costs more than it's worth.	[00:21]
chetty	got to keep pumping that debt	[00:22]
asciilifeform	considering that this is rather opposite of the thermodynamics we learned in kindergarten, perhaps deserves explanation ?	[00:22]
mircea_popescu	yeah, the whole story works fine for as long as the expansion of debt remains unrestricted.	[00:22]
asciilifeform	e.g. oil well that needs more joules to pump than you get out - is abandoned	[00:22]
mircea_popescu	this creates "assets" for everyone involved, and so...	[00:22]
asciilifeform	why would opposite rule apply here	[00:22]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform ask roosevelt.	[00:23]
mircea_popescu	i didn't come up with it.	[00:23]
asciilifeform	roosevelt (or stalin, for that matter) just subscribed to a somewhat baroque school of biodiesel manufacture	[00:23]
mircea_popescu	nah, the cripple came up with it all on his own.	[00:23]
asciilifeform	that is, it doesn't matter that the well is -EV if expendable slaves are pumping by hand	[00:23]
asciilifeform	you're converting their fat to fuel	[00:24]
mircea_popescu	"how great would it be if we cut off everyone's legs, and hired someone to push them around"	[00:24]
mircea_popescu	stalin's thing was reality bound. roosevelt's thing was not.	[00:24]
asciilifeform	roosevelt started with considerably more fat	[00:24]
mircea_popescu	this is why the soviet union collapsed cleanly, whereas the libertard union will not.	[00:25]
mircea_popescu	nah	[00:25]
mircea_popescu	that's not where it lies. stalin's externality was belly fat	[00:25]
mircea_popescu	r's externality was brain fat.	[00:25]
mircea_popescu	;;google sops site:trilema.org	[00:26]
gribble	No matches found.	[00:26]
mircea_popescu	orly.	[00:26]
mircea_popescu	in honor of nubbins` typing skills, you can now access trilema as trilema.org trilema.net trilema.me trilema.eu or trilema.com at your option.	[00:27]
mircea_popescu	(cookies won't work if you get them on the wrong domain, so reset if you switch)	[00:27]
thestringpuller	everytime I see cookies won't work i think people are like "i don't like cookies. they aren't delicious"	[00:28]
mircea_popescu	lol	[00:28]
thestringpuller	and it makes me think "are you crazy?"	[00:28]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[00:28]
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nubbins`	oh also: http://imgur.com/opBkMgl	[00:29]
assbot	imgur: the simple image sharer	[00:29]
nubbins`	this image came to me as a psd with, no joke, over 150 layers	[00:30]
mircea_popescu	looks like it was worth it	[00:30]
nubbins`	as i can't fit 150 screens on the press, this is reduced to 4 layers	[00:30]
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thestringpuller	well you could use 150 screens	[00:31]
thestringpuller	but that'd be insane	[00:31]
nubbins`	anyway, clearing through the backlog. 150-ish two-sided cards and another hundred shirts and i'm in the clear for digging into the bitcoin posters	[00:31]
nubbins`	thestringpuller it'd be cumbersome	[00:32]
nubbins`	there were only like 6 or 7 colors in there to begin with. it's just that for some reason she put each stroke in its own layer	[00:32]
thestringpuller	i'm just gonna tell my screenprinting people that you can print 150 colors	[00:32]
thestringpuller	np	[00:33]
thestringpuller	they don't have to know you actually don't	[00:33]
thestringpuller	get them to step up their game	[00:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 300 @ 0.00175001 = 0.525 BTC [-] {2}	[00:33]
nubbins`	they already need to step up their game if they wanna be as good as us ;D	[00:33]
thestringpuller	the "mythical" 150 screen press serves as a better motivator ;)	[00:34]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform let's model this with a game of chess. suppose there's ten of us in a room. nine are amateurs, i am a rated pro.	[00:35]
mircea_popescu	first game starts. i tell my opponent "listen, if you let me play with an extra queen, i	[00:36]
mircea_popescu	ll let you play with two extra queens on the rematch"	[00:36]
mircea_popescu	now this is actually +ev for the opponent : he probably can't beat a pro on even figures, so giving an extra gueen is not much to give.	[00:36]
nubbins`	in the philippines, they do a lot of peg-and-hole printing, you could theoretically do 150-color designs no sweat	[00:36]
mircea_popescu	however, no pro in the world can beat someone with three queens on the table. and so he consents.	[00:36]
mircea_popescu	i won a game.	[00:37]
nubbins`	set up like 200-500 shirts at a time on these huge long tables, each shirt has 2 wooden dowels sticking out of the board above it	[00:37]
mircea_popescu	the problem is, it cost me more to win than it's worth. but i won it.	[00:37]
nubbins`	printer takes a squeegee and screen w/ 2 holes on top, slips screen onto first set of dowels, prints, steps to the right, repeat	[00:37]
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mircea_popescu	which you know, in some approaches to politics, such as would for instance be favoured by temporary figureheads elected by a democracy, and supported by an unmovable bureaucracy, is the whole of my job.	[00:37]
mircea_popescu	next game, let someone else handle the problems.	[00:38]
mircea_popescu	what this entire thing depends on is the nigger'	[00:39]
mircea_popescu	s birth certificate remaining unquestioned, so to speak.	[00:39]
mircea_popescu	by the time people actually figure out the nsa is NOT what they'd buy if they had the money to buy a nsa and were in the nsa market...	[00:39]
nubbins`	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBojYrC8QuM	[00:40]
assbot	t shirt printing philippines - YouTube	[00:40]
thestringpuller	wow nubbins`	[00:43]
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mircea_popescu	!up bocobit	[00:43]
nubbins`	look at the guy removing them, each platen has a big stack of shirts snugged onto it	[00:43]
-assbot-	You voiced bocobit for 30 minutes.	[00:43]
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nubbins`	and they just peel em off as they go	[00:43]
nubbins`	that's crazy	[00:43]
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nubbins`	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_FbV2iXztU	[00:46]
assbot	water based 5 color printing - YouTube	[00:46]
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nubbins`	drawback to this method is you can't cure the ink between colors	[00:47]
nubbins`	you can see a guy waving a heat gun around ;0	[00:47]
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mircea_popescu	http://mod6.net/eulora/ << eulora gaining moar mommentum each week	[00:56]
assbot	Index of /eulora	[00:56]
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thestringpuller	a little bit every day	[00:59]
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mod6	:D	[01:08]
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BingoBoingo	Oh, the Greyhawk NPC is already in Euloria	[01:45]
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mod6	oooooo man	[01:58]
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mod6	there isn't going to be a screen shot of that ;>	[02:02]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 26 @ 0.02523161 = 0.656 BTC [-]	[02:09]
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BingoBoingo	!up dpb_reddit	[02:11]
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BingoBoingo	Hello dpb_reddit	[02:11]
dpb_reddit	Hi! CryptyLabs LLC will be creating a suite of services to make the use and accessibility of Bitcoins easier for everyone. The first product being created in our suite is trading software, commonly known as bots. We plan to launch in 5 weeks under they CryptyBots brand. We are looking for person(s) who can fill one or both of the following position(s): 1. Software/bot trading developer 2. Backtest Developer Best candidat	[02:11]
BingoBoingo	dpb_reddit: Why are you offering us best Candida? I don't want to itch!	[02:12]
BingoBoingo	dpb_reddit: What is your role in this CryptoLabs business?	[02:14]
dpb_reddit	I am one of the 2 co-founders, currently a 5 man operation - we are launching in 5 weeks	[02:14]
BingoBoingo	That was some seriously unfortuante text clipping on your message though because it seems you are wishing us all nasty fungal itches...	[02:16]
dpb_reddit	So, I set up the business, finances, marketing, put the team together, etc.	[02:16]
BingoBoingo	What kind of history do you have?	[02:16]
BingoBoingo	And why start with trading software if your target audience is the everyman?	[02:17]
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Blazedout419	http://i.imgur.com/leVpMnT.jpg	[02:17]
Blazedout419	thoughts?	[02:17]
dpb_reddit	I have worked at a financial investment group, and have started startups freelanding around - currently have a lot of free time and this is one of my serious projects.	[02:17]
kakobrekla	so, nothing with bitcoin?	[02:18]
dpb_reddit	The reason we are starting with the trading software is because if someone is new to bitcoins, we are providing the easiest, and best profiting bots out so far - our product is done, but we are looking for more developers and backtest feature	[02:18]
dpb_reddit	Yes, I know how to program, I am also currently creating my own coin as a project. I am involved in cryptos and trade on exchanges.	[02:18]
kakobrekla	i think _you_ are new to bitcoin.	[02:18]
dpb_reddit	I have also written my own bot, but the bots we are selling are created much more professionally than I can make	[02:18]
dpb_reddit	I am not new to bitcoins	[02:19]
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dpb_reddit	If anyone is interestd, send an email to hr@cryptybots.com	[02:19]
kakobrekla	so, having some fx experience, i can tell you there just one kind of bots for sale on this planet. the ones that dont work.	[02:20]
dpb_reddit	I will tell you our bots work, and we have about 300 happy customers already.	[02:20]
dpb_reddit	Anyways, I am not here to explain myself, or prove anything, simply trying to hire for a good startup company.	[02:20]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: the chess example, or its life version with debt, etc. is really a play on 'hilbert's hotel'	[02:21]
BingoBoingo	dpb_reddit: Still, why not for example make a fork of Armory that isn't spyware or something, what is this with trading bots	[02:21]
asciilifeform	if you could actually move judgement day off by a day without limit, it'd work	[02:21]
kakobrekla	BingoBoingo thats not selling dreams.	[02:21]
dpb_reddit	What do you mean, BingoBingo?	[02:22]
pete_dushenski	https://twitter.com/pete_dushenski/status/499672700403458049	[02:22]
assbot	This is the Bitcoin Empire's Yasa: http://t.co/qlzNdC9vUi	[02:22]
BingoBoingo	dpb_reddit: Like sell software that makes using and storing bitcoin a better experience	[02:22]
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dpb_reddit	Well there are wallets, pretty easy to store bitcoins. Our bots will be very easy to use, interface is super clean.	[02:23]
BingoBoingo	dpb_reddit: But I mean why introduce risky trading bots as a first product to new users?	[02:23]
kakobrekla	its 100& guaranteed profit prolly.	[02:24]
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dpb_reddit	They are not super risky. They profit very consistently. Of course I cannot guarantee 100% of the time, but it generally does profit well and gets your money back. Backtests can show this. Kakobrekla, please do not be disrespectful, I am being honest here.	[02:25]
kakobrekla	you are honestly not having a clue.	[02:25]
dpb_reddit	I am not going to argue with you. I know what I am doing.	[02:25]
kakobrekla	i do wat i want!	[02:26]
dpb_reddit	Okay, southpark	[02:26]
mike_c	it's actually honey boo-boo	[02:26]
kakobrekla	lol	[02:26]
dpb_reddit	hah	[02:26]
kakobrekla	!up Flerb	[02:26]
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Flerb	Ah	[02:27]
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Flerb	Thanks	[02:27]
kakobrekla	yw	[02:27]
dpb_reddit	So, is this webchat legitimate? Or do people just question the person trying to hire lol	[02:27]
*	assbot gives voice to RagnarDanneskjol	[02:27]
kakobrekla	check the logs?	[02:27]
dpb_reddit	nah, asking the community	[02:27]
Flerb	dpb_reddit: yes. We guarantee 100% profit completely	[02:27]
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dpb_reddit	Have a nice day everyone, I am done here.	[02:27]
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Flerb	Well, we guarantee a very good profit rate	[02:28]
RagnarDanneskjol	@ dpb_reddit - I am a tech recruiter. send me a detailed job requisition to admin@bitrecruiter.com and I'll see what i can do to help	[02:28]
dpb_reddit	Thank you ragnar, I will PM you real quick. Everyone else here seems to like to make up things and make assumptions based off of nothing.	[02:29]
cazalla	dpb_reddit, why not keep it for yourself if it's so good?	[02:29]
BingoBoingo	!topic	[02:29]
BingoBoingo	;;topic	[02:29]
gribble	http://bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://log.bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com	[02:29]
kakobrekla	because there is infinite liquidity on btc market cazalla doh	[02:29]
Flerb	Wait, is armory spyware?	[02:29]
RagnarDanneskjol	no - they are mostly right, you prolly have a lot to learn about all this stuff prior to launching a business, so consider this your hazing	[02:29]
mike_c	armory phones home with a hash of your home directory	[02:30]
BingoBoingo	Flerb: It leaks information	[02:30]
dpb_reddit	I know a lot about this. Why assume I know nothing?	[02:30]
Flerb	Oh as in the pinging to them of your is and uname?	[02:30]
dpb_reddit	But, whatever.	[02:30]
Flerb	*ip	[02:30]
BingoBoingo	Flerb: Yeah	[02:30]
RagnarDanneskjol	good place to start is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.0	[02:30]
assbot	So you think you're going to start a Bitcoin business, right?	[02:30]
mike_c	well, IP is inherent in the pinging :)	[02:30]
Flerb	They apologised I thought and said they are working on it	[02:31]
Flerb	But yeah, that was pretty stupid	[02:31]
dpb_reddit	I have seen that, very popular on bticointalk	[02:31]
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Flerb	I've not seen bticointalk	[02:31]
BingoBoingo	Flerb: Still, it isn't the sort of thing people get to apologize for since... What else are they hiding	[02:31]
RagnarDanneskjol	mm k	[02:31]
mike_c	they aren't even hiding. their position is they have the right to track usage.	[02:31]
Flerb	Hmm	[02:32]
BingoBoingo	dpb_reddit: Well seems you haven't learned from that post	[02:32]
Flerb	Well	[02:32]
Flerb	It's open sourcw	[02:32]
Flerb	Isn't it!	[02:32]
Flerb	*?	[02:32]
dpb_reddit	Why? Because I tried to recruit smoeone on here	[02:33]
kakobrekla	noone wants to work with idiots.	[02:33]
pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: let the permanent record permanently reflect the permanent fact that the economist is a piece of toilet paper upon which down syndrome patients scribble whatever shit happens through their head. << kablamm!	[02:33]
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pete_dushenski	iirc it was dr. down who came up with the term "mongoloid"	[02:34]
pete_dushenski	kinda a slap to genghis and kublah but twas the style at the time	[02:34]
BingoBoingo	lol danielpbarron is now auto naming his referals in his links here from the forumtrolling	[02:34]
los_pantalones	that guy dpq was in and out quickly, huh?	[02:35]
pete_dushenski	kakobrekla: except idiots	[02:36]
los_pantalones	was hoping to chat with that chap and see what he thinks he has	[02:36]
kakobrekla	retard or scammer. doesnt make a diff.	[02:36]
BingoBoingo	los_pantalones: He was refered here by a link danielpbarron left on reddit, who is to say who he actually is?	[02:37]
los_pantalones	indeed	[02:37]
BingoBoingo	Freenode webchat lets you name people by links	[02:37]
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RagnarDanneskjol	doesnt matter to me - long as he has a recruitment budget, which I highly doubt	[02:38]
Flerb	Anyone here bought BTM?	[02:39]
*	assbot gives voice to decimation	[02:40]
decimation	http://research.microsoft.com/pubs/212001/Catapult_ISCA_2014.pdf << microserf implemented fpga co-processors for bing search, paper is mildly interesting	[02:40]
mircea_popescu	mircea_popescu: the chess example, or its life version with debt, etc. is really a play on 'hilbert's hotel' << so it is. for as long as the theoretical properties of aleph-cardinals hold in real sets, well... why not.	[02:40]
Flerb	So how do I get voiced in the future without pming someone?	[02:40]
decimation	it appears that altera is beating xilinix these days "on the street"	[02:40]
mircea_popescu	Blazedout419 uping spambots is not nice.	[02:41]
RagnarDanneskjol	on the strreet, yes, but any industrial embedded stuff is still xilinx	[02:41]
Blazedout419	spam bots?	[02:42]
RagnarDanneskjol	this was interesting to hear too http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/184828-intel-unveils-new-xeon-chip-with-integrated-fpga-touts-20x-performance-boost	[02:42]
assbot	Intel unveils new Xeon chip with integrated FPGA, touts 20x performance boost \| ExtremeTech	[02:42]
mircea_popescu	the dpb thing above.	[02:42]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: I upped him, they followed a link here	[02:42]
mircea_popescu	Flerb http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-assets-m/	[02:43]
Blazedout419	^^ I was showing you guys my news coins	[02:43]
assbot	#bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[02:43]
mircea_popescu	shit i misread my b's. sorry Blazedout419	[02:43]
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BingoBoingo	From one of danielpbarron's forum links where he shows people the light and truth	[02:43]
BingoBoingo	His referrals get tagged with a dpb_SiteName username	[02:44]
mircea_popescu	o hey. now that'sfucking smart.	[02:44]
mircea_popescu	who came up wioth it ?	[02:44]
kakobrekla	only then for the light of truth to be extinguished by kako, upon tunnel entrance	[02:45]
mircea_popescu	So, is this webchat legitimate? Or do people just question the person trying to hire lol << aka "herpyderp I know shit, and don't want to adjust. everyone else must adjust to my stupid head. or else i will say the bad thing!!!1"	[02:45]
mircea_popescu	fucking idiots.	[02:45]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Seems he did	[02:46]
mircea_popescu	I've not seen bticointalk << where you from then ?	[02:47]
mircea_popescu	danielpbarron the prepended dpb is actually fucking clever. how do you do it ? this must be a standard, ima put it on trilema too.	[02:48]
asciilifeform	!s xilinx	[02:49]
assbot	19 results for 'xilinx' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=xilinx	[02:49]
asciilifeform	decimation: xilinx and altera both make tightly 'closed' chips, for reasons discussed in agonizing detail earlier	[02:49]
asciilifeform	altera is more or less the 'worst of all worlds' - considerably poorer gate density, shoddier linux toolchain support, and not really winning on price either	[02:50]
BingoBoingo	%ob	[02:50]
atcbot	16k@250 2k@245 43k@225 \| 185k@190 47k@188 37k@187	[02:50]
asciilifeform	so it was never entirely clear to me why it exists, other than the fact that it wants to and the bezzlatron decrees it	[02:50]
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mircea_popescu	sounds like the perfect party to host a pretend-win media party.	[02:51]
mircea_popescu	on the street.	[02:51]
mircea_popescu	dignork it looks for you to actually load the page, and not fill in too quickly.	[02:53]
BingoBoingo	dignork: Did you take to long to write it?	[02:53]
mircea_popescu	if you reloaded and instapasted that'd be why.	[02:56]
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trixisowned	https://i.imgur.com/BF4kg6u.jpg	[03:02]
trixisowned	just got banned for posting that in #bitcoin	[03:02]
trixisowned	:P	[03:02]
BingoBoingo	!b 3	[03:03]
assbot	Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/37TPQFP.txt )	[03:03]
mircea_popescu	who's that ?	[03:04]
trixisowned	andreas	[03:04]
trixisowned	who else	[03:04]
trixisowned	ahahaha	[03:04]
mircea_popescu	!up Flerb	[03:04]
-assbot-	You voiced Flerb for 30 minutes.	[03:04]
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mircea_popescu	oh the neobee shill ?	[03:04]
nubbins`	i have about 50% success posting comments to trilema	[03:04]
mircea_popescu	what, is he reduced to shoe on head type of work now ?	[03:04]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` srsly that bad ?	[03:04]
nubbins`	i try to be as non-robotty as possible, but.. shrug	[03:05]
nubbins`	it eventually lets me	[03:05]
nubbins`	sometimes takes like 3-4 tries	[03:05]
nubbins`	sometimes i just give up :0	[03:05]
mircea_popescu	well this sucks.	[03:05]
nubbins`	no	[03:05]
nubbins`	tor is for weenies	[03:05]
mircea_popescu	12 here.	[03:05]
mircea_popescu	tor shouldn't really do anything	[03:06]
nubbins`	i'd ask you how it identifies bots, but y'know	[03:06]
mircea_popescu	not a secret, i even published the code.	[03:06]
nubbins`	o?	[03:06]
mircea_popescu	there's a hidden form field based on your ip	[03:07]
mircea_popescu	(bots don't load the page on the same pass as they fill the comments - they use spiders, like google)	[03:07]
mircea_popescu	and other than that, it looks that you took at least a few seconds to type your comment in	[03:07]
nubbins`	i do occasionally write up comments in a text editor & paste em in	[03:08]
*	nubbins` is an accidental enter-presser ;(	[03:08]
nubbins`	Blazedout419 nice coin	[03:09]
mircea_popescu	well that'd do it then.	[03:09]
Flerb	So do I need OTC ratings to talk?	[03:11]
nubbins`	you need to be in assbot's trust network in order to voice yourself	[03:11]
nubbins`	;;ident	[03:11]
gribble	Nick 'nubbins`', with hostmask 'nubbins`!~leel@stjhnf0157w-142163082159.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOP.nl.bellaliant.net', is identified as user 'nubbins`', with GPG key id CF2950F23C844002, key fingerprint 5015BD3D0AE659C8B8632F31CF2950F23C844002, and bitcoin address None	[03:11]
nubbins`	i mean:	[03:11]
nubbins`	;;ident Flerb	[03:11]
gribble	Nick 'Flerb', with hostmask 'Flerb!~willdude1@unaffiliated/willdude123', is not identified.	[03:11]
Flerb	Oh I see	[03:11]
nubbins`	^ step one	[03:11]
nubbins`	step two:	[03:12]
nubbins`	;;gettrust assbot Flerb	[03:12]
Flerb	;;ident Flerb	[03:12]
gribble	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Flerb: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Flerb \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Flerb \| Rated since: never	[03:12]
gribble	Nick 'Flerb', with hostmask 'Flerb!~willdude1@unaffiliated/willdude123', is not identified.	[03:12]
mircea_popescu	Flerb i linked you above to the explanation. did you read it ?	[03:12]
Flerb	Yeah	[03:12]
mircea_popescu	so, yeah, you need ratings from the people that are in the magic list.	[03:12]
Flerb	Ok	[03:12]
Flerb	But ratings surely are for trades?	[03:12]
nubbins`	ratings are for trust	[03:12]
Flerb	Oh	[03:12]
nubbins`	this can be for trades, for back rubs, for business dealings, etc	[03:13]
mircea_popescu	everything is a trade.	[03:13]
Flerb	Oh ok	[03:13]
Flerb	So I'll register with otc	[03:13]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` i made the conditions less draconic.	[03:14]
mircea_popescu	let me know if it's still a pain.	[03:14]
decimation	also of mild interest: http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1323476 << seems intel isn't delivering 14 nm for anything important in the near future	[03:14]
assbot	Intel Outlines 14nm, Broadwell \| EE Times	[03:14]
nubbins`	will do. let me know if you get more comment spam!	[03:14]
mircea_popescu	i never get any anyway :)	[03:14]
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Flerb	Why is this necessary? Was there a lot of spam?	[03:14]
mircea_popescu	Flerb it's to oppress people.	[03:15]
nubbins`	now if only you could get rid of the pingbacks ;D	[03:15]
Flerb	Oh cool	[03:15]
Flerb	I love oppression	[03:15]
mircea_popescu	decimation yeah it was kinda dead in the water 14nm	[03:15]
nubbins`	you'll fit in here	[03:15]
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RagnarDanneskjol	from what i understand, @ 16-14nm existing foundry tools just don't cut it (literally) to get any effective performance yield	[03:17]
mircea_popescu	yup	[03:20]
decimation	yeah these features are ~30 Si atoms in size, not surprising that photo-lithography is failing	[03:20]
BingoBoingo	Architectures are about to get exotic again	[03:20]
mircea_popescu	it's the end of that accursed law, we can get back to humanity for a while.	[03:20]
mircea_popescu	until wetware, is my bet.	[03:20]
RagnarDanneskjol	oh yea	[03:21]
mircea_popescu	holy shit. ipads ARENT MULTITASKING !?	[03:21]
mircea_popescu	dude. jesus. omfg.	[03:21]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: it's a normal unix box	[03:22]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: but apple's first version of os didn't support user task switching	[03:22]
mircea_popescu	then why does everything stop the moment it goes to background ?	[03:22]
mircea_popescu	hm.	[03:22]
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decimation	the capability to shrink dies has far outstripped the capability to design logic to exploit the new possibility space	[03:22]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: as i recall, it uses an evil semi-cooperative task scheduler for user apps (vs system daemons) where 'non-essential' threads are suspended	[03:23]
asciilifeform	this, according to the dev manual, is to save battery charge.	[03:23]
kakobrekla	this thing was introduced in the later models only ?	[03:23]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform so basically... it doesn't have multi-tasking.	[03:23]
asciilifeform	running more than one user app simultaneously was introduced in ver. 4 i think.	[03:23]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: it does, but app has to explicitly ask for it	[03:24]
decimation	I'm sure the hand of steve was in this	[03:24]
BingoBoingo	kakobrekla> this thing was introduced in the later models only ? << This thing was introduced when they "introduced" "multi-tasking"	[03:24]
mircea_popescu	sooo basicalllllllyyyyy....	[03:24]
asciilifeform	so, for instance, streaming audio apps can play in background	[03:24]
mircea_popescu	whgat the fuck am i going to do, run ipad gcc and make the app ask ?	[03:24]
asciilifeform	what's the app in question	[03:24]
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mircea_popescu	various random games. i got a tablet to check out what's going on in that space.	[03:25]
asciilifeform	if it ought to do something useful in background and doesn't, it is the author's fault, yes	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	turns out... everything downloads in a patch-needed state	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	and everything takes > 10 minutes to patch	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	and everything wants to be front-up while doing this	[03:25]
mircea_popescu	and i think i am going to buy a hammer.	[03:25]
BingoBoingo	I'd be interested in partnering with someone to startup S.MASH	[03:26]
*	asciilifeform owns one of virtually every basic type of portable tablet/reader gizmo, they each have some use	[03:26]
BingoBoingo	!s s.mash	[03:26]
assbot	4 results for 's.mash' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=s.mash	[03:26]
mircea_popescu	and this leaving aside the problem that every shithead from vietnam to shangshitland is making the same dumbass 3 or 4 games, with the most ridiculous mechanics,	[03:26]
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decimation	plus 'ipad gcc' (xcode) only runs on a mac, and you have to tell apple why you want it (not that it would help without the app source)	[03:27]
mircea_popescu	but that notwithstanding, it's apparently impossible to get any of these aspiring "software houses" to even pick up the phone.	[03:27]
asciilifeform	'nexus 10', for example, is just right for reading vintage djvu scans of 'наука и жизнь'.	[03:27]
mircea_popescu	we've created a fine empire of cacophonic nonsense, i tell you. such victory of civilisation ;/	[03:27]
BingoBoingo	I imagine most of them can't afford phones	[03:27]
decimation	ascii do you have one of those huge sony e-ink readers?	[03:27]
asciilifeform	decimation: amazon's 'kindle dx'	[03:27]
asciilifeform	used exclusively for russian war3z	[03:27]
decimation	yeah, sony was going to be paper sized	[03:28]
mircea_popescu	i literally was confronted with obviously the same one (stupid) thing, once with a scantily clad "mobster" girl, then later with a scantily clad "medieval fantasy" girl.	[03:28]
decimation	or bigger actually, I think they bailed on that business	[03:28]
BingoBoingo	The Sony readers were basically warez text only, it was great	[03:28]
asciilifeform	sony did the original 'prs' box (sold mine for less than cost of shipping years ago)	[03:28]
asciilifeform	but has fallen down since	[03:28]
asciilifeform	dx, if i recall, is sadly out of production	[03:28]
decimation	http://www.engadget.com/2014/03/27/sony-13-inch-digital-paper-e-ink/	[03:29]
assbot	Sony's 13-inch 'Digital Paper' is just like paper, except it costs $1,100	[03:29]
*	asciilifeform hates epaper touch screens as a concept	[03:30]
decimation	my bid for such a device is $100	[03:30]
nubbins`	<+decimation> plus 'ipad gcc' (xcode) only runs on a mac, and you have to tell apple why you want it << you have to tell apple why you want xcode?	[03:30]
asciilifeform	can't finger-scroll on it, so only thing that happens is dirt	[03:30]
decimation	nubbins`: at least in the past you had to get a developer account	[03:30]
*	nubbins` shakes head	[03:30]
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nubbins`	you need a developer account to load apps onto your idevice, sure	[03:30]
asciilifeform	decimation: afaik you still do if you want to actually run your code on (uncracked) apple portable gizmos	[03:31]
nubbins`	xcode itself is just a general ide. totally free	[03:31]
decimation	yeah they don't charge you for xcode but you still need to sign up afaik	[03:31]
nubbins`	you could use it to build eulora for your mac if you wanted	[03:31]
nubbins`	nah	[03:31]
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decimation	asciilifeform: yeah if you want to actually ship your code, you have to submit your source to apple for approval	[03:32]
asciilifeform	and pay.	[03:32]
decimation	apple: usg dept of shiny things	[03:32]
asciilifeform	although last i checked - only binaries	[03:32]
dignork	nubbins`: last time I tried, i had to root the phone and patch the xcode to avoid dev license	[03:32]
nubbins`	we're talking about two different things here	[03:33]
decimation	asciilifeform: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3186648/does-apple-view-the-actual-source-code-when-approving-apps << you are right, they just scan binaries	[03:33]
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assbot	iphone - Does apple view the actual source code when approving apps? - Stack Overflow	[03:33]
nubbins`	yes, you need a developer account ($99) to install code to your ipad or iphone	[03:33]
nubbins`	no, you do not need anything except maybe an itunes account to download and use xcode	[03:34]
BingoBoingo	;;rate RagnarDanneskjol 2 Thinks, enthusiastic	[03:34]
*	asciilifeform developed for 'ipad' once, a long time ago.	[03:34]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating for user RagnarDanneskjol has changed from 1 to 2.	[03:34]
*	nubbins` developed for ipad once as well	[03:34]
*	asciilifeform gave up in disgust, didn't finish	[03:34]
decimation	;;rate asciilifeform 2 engineer of many things	[03:34]
gribble	Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user asciilifeform has been recorded.	[03:34]
*	nubbins` paid for ipad with sales from two apps :/	[03:34]
mircea_popescu	well if anyone knows any of these twerps that keep spitting out pointless, copycat ipad games,	[03:34]
mircea_popescu	make a connection.	[03:34]
nubbins`	objective-c is gnarly	[03:34]
decimation	asciilifeform: what did you think of objective C?	[03:34]
nubbins`	i actually know a brilliant objective-c programmer	[03:35]
asciilifeform	decimation: not a fan. abuse of poor c, just like cpp	[03:35]
decimation	yeah I would put them in the same category (c++ and objc)	[03:35]
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nubbins`	he's been getting a lot of work doing interactive media displays for big corps and stuff lately	[03:35]
RagnarDanneskjol	is he for hire? - I got jobs need fillin	[03:35]
BingoBoingo	Huff Po Dude is now in handcuffs >> https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/499691017533403137 https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/499705415106830336	[03:35]
assbot	I counted 70+ SWAT officers. Guns trained on crowds. Insanity. http://t.co/stev2G6v4b	[03:35]
assbot	SWAT just invade McDonald's where I'm working/recharging. Asked for ID when I took photo. http://t.co/FOIsMnBwHy	[03:35]
asciilifeform	c doesn't like to commit atrocities, it was only following orders	[03:35]
mircea_popescu	lol ragnar's gonna build an empire here	[03:35]
nubbins`	RagnarDanneskjol he probably is and you probably can't afford him	[03:35]
decimation	I never really understood why structs and function pointers weren't enough for someone to build all the "objects" they desired	[03:36]
RagnarDanneskjol	ha	[03:36]
nubbins`	:D	[03:36]
asciilifeform	is that a raytheon microwave cannon on the right hand side?	[03:36]
asciilifeform	;;google active denial system	[03:37]
gribble	Active Denial System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Video: I Got Blasted by the Pentagon's Pain Ray — Twice \| Danger ...: ; The Active Denial System (ADS) - YouTube:	[03:37]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Looks like it's baby brother doesn't it	[03:37]
nubbins`	looks like it	[03:37]
decimation	I never understood why mcds doesn't replace their mouthbreathing employees with robots	[03:37]
mircea_popescu	"Your right to assembly is not being denied," the police said later over a loudspeaker.	[03:37]
mircea_popescu	lmao	[03:37]
asciilifeform	these were, officially, pulled from iraq	[03:37]
asciilifeform	... for cooking own operators	[03:37]
BingoBoingo	https://twitter.com/jonswaine/status/499710622422949888	[03:37]
assbot	Photo of reporter I believe to be /ryanjreilly being cuffed and put in a police van minutes ago in /hashtag/Ferguson?src=hash http://t.co/l6olRUPk13	[03:37]
asciilifeform	not one comment mentions the dish ?	[03:38]
asciilifeform	what gives ?	[03:38]
mircea_popescu	people be clueless ?	[03:38]
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asciilifeform	i suppose they'll learn when it is switched on	[03:39]
decimation	are you talking about the sector dish on the white pole?	[03:40]
BingoBoingo	Well, sunset is soon enough, that seems to be when tear gas goes on	[03:40]
BingoBoingo	decimation: Mounted on the roof on rightmost vehicle	[03:40]
mircea_popescu	i guess it's a great time to be an reenaction armorsmith	[03:42]
asciilifeform	http://imgur.com/ilNBHp6	[03:42]
assbot	Raytheon ADS? - Imgur	[03:42]
mircea_popescu	pretty much all this expensive high tech crap dies a hoirrible death if confronted with chain mail.	[03:42]
dignork	asciilifeform: the dish looks bigger on wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Denial_System#mediaviewer/File:Active_Denial_System_Humvee.jpg	[03:42]
assbot	Active Denial System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	[03:42]
asciilifeform	they had a mini version	[03:42]
asciilifeform	no public photos afaik	[03:42]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform raytheon has been trying to prop up th emegahole in its balncesheet by selling a mini version to fed backed usg agencies.	[03:43]
mircea_popescu	but from what i hear it doth not actually work.	[03:43]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/499717867323936769	[03:43]
assbot	What is this thing /hashtag/Ferguson?src=hash https://t.co/DbjiZUp5o1	[03:43]
decimation	re: death ray << it is well known amoung amateur radio folks that RF burns are extremely nasty, they don't heal like normal wounds	[03:50]
RagnarDanneskjol	it just looks like a turrett hatch to me	[03:51]
decimation	http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/local/kyle-munson/2014/04/05/munson-heavy-duty-military-equipment-police/7337463/	[03:52]
assbot	Munson: Heavy-duty military equipment given to police	[03:52]
decimation	"Washington's MRAP, valued at $733,000, was as "free" to the city as a diesel monster with a 74-gallon gas tank that guzzles down the road at 5 miles per gallon can be."	[03:52]
BingoBoingo	decimation> re: death ray << it is well known amoung amateur radio folks that RF burns are extremely nasty, they don't heal like normal wounds << Still better than touching the antenna...	[03:53]
decimation	I'm not sure how you are going to make money selling to the democratic police when the surplus war material is "free"	[03:53]
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BingoBoingo	!up GodHatesFigs	[03:54]
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decimation	I just at a few raw figs, they were delicious	[03:54]
BingoBoingo	https://twitter.com/occupythemob/status/499718454778142722	[03:54]
assbot	What the wife of the /hashtag/ferguson?src=hash chief of police has to say on her Facebook http://t.co/dGdkegmfc4	[03:55]
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BingoBoingo	!up AdrianoOliveira	[03:56]
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AdrianoOliveira	hello everyone!!	[03:56]
BingoBoingo	Hello AdrianoOliveira	[03:56]
decimation	re: chain mail << no need, just wear this: http://www.rfsafetysolutions.com/RF%20Radiation%20Pages/RF_Protective_Garments.html	[03:57]
assbot	RF protective garments or suits are described.	[03:57]
decimation	made for folks who work on live broadcast antennae	[03:57]
dignork	decimation: love their warning: "If your ankles feel warm, something is wrong!"	[04:00]
decimation	lol yeah you would have to pay me a fair amount of cash to get me to climb a tower in that suit in front of a live high-power transmit antenna	[04:01]
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RagnarDanneskjol	anyone into rf haxory should check this. most interesting/well developed proj I've seen in the space to date: https://github.com/mossmann/hackrf	[04:02]
assbot	mossmann/hackrf GitHub	[04:02]
dignork	RagnarDanneskjol: it's on preorder :(	[04:03]
RagnarDanneskjol	i made one w/ my bare hands	[04:03]
decimation	yeah, those are neat, except the most interesting part is the fact that you can capture a decent band	[04:04]
decimation	what are you going to do with the band, once you have it?	[04:04]
BingoBoingo	RagnarDanneskjol: You really aren't playing with RF until you are measuring power in at least tens of watts	[04:04]
RagnarDanneskjol	I work on radar/IR jamming stuff w/ fpgas, electronic warfare	[04:04]
RagnarDanneskjol	I know what I'm doing, have lots of burns to prove it	[04:05]
BingoBoingo	Ah, I'm more familiar with DX'ing as a sport	[04:06]
BingoBoingo	How far can you get on X power budget in Y Band?	[04:06]
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decimation	I guess it goes down to 10 mhz so you could do HF	[04:07]
decimation	at least the upper end	[04:07]
BingoBoingo	Yeah	[04:08]
decimation	it barely puts out 1 watt	[04:08]
BingoBoingo	That's what AMPs are for	[04:09]
decimation	I strongly suspect you would need additional filtering if you were to use one in a 'civilized' manner	[04:09]
dignork	RagnarDanneskjol: also this thread was lol: https://twitter.com/dragosr/status/368083088338722816	[04:09]
assbot	Sniffing GSM with HackRF http://t.co/CkABpCoSYc	[04:09]
BingoBoingo	decimation: Nothing about Radio is civilized	[04:10]
RagnarDanneskjol	yea I saw that, very cool	[04:10]
decimation	BingoBoingo: are you referring to conversations on 80 meters?	[04:10]
BingoBoingo	decimation: Oh, its always the same story from 2-160 meters	[04:10]
dignork	RagnarDanneskjol: yeah, but check the titon's reply :)	[04:11]
decimation	yeah amateur radio would be much more fun if there were people to talk to other than hams	[04:11]
RagnarDanneskjol	hmm	[04:11]
BingoBoingo	IRC over Ham is a thing...	[04:12]
decimation	BingoBoingo: how so?	[04:13]
RagnarDanneskjol	oh yea, so is IP	[04:13]
BingoBoingo	decimation: You can do internet protocol over Ham	[04:14]
BingoBoingo	Nothing "encrypted" though	[04:14]
decimation	BingoBoingo: yeah I'm aware, but I was wondering if someone had a live gateway somewhere	[04:14]
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RagnarDanneskjol	sure, and I have heard of encryption schemes I think too	[04:14]
RagnarDanneskjol	just been getting into gnurad recently. http://dangerousprototypes.com/2014/07/14/tutorials-gnu-radio-for-beginners/	[04:14]
assbot	Tutorials: GNU Radio for beginners \| Dangerous Prototypes	[04:14]
mircea_popescu	I'm not sure how you are going to make money selling to the democratic police when the surplus war material is "free" << love will find a way.	[04:15]
decimation	I love this distinction between proper police who serve the king, the local baron's agents, and the "democratic police". I'm going to use the phrase more often.	[04:16]
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mircea_popescu	yeah amateur radio would be much more fun if there were people to talk to other than hams << like what, 19/f/cali accidentally on the transmission ?	[04:18]
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BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: That could be a charity, 19 year old Cali girls on 10 meters	[04:19]
BingoBoingo	If the US cared about diplomacy this could replace Voice of America entirely	[04:19]
decimation	no the median ham is a ossified 50-70 year old male who rarely has anything interesting to say	[04:20]
mircea_popescu	now that's an idea, i wonder how the iraq/afghan wars would have went if instead of 2-500k gay boys eager to play videogames	[04:20]
mircea_popescu	the us war dept just enlisted 2-500k eager valley sluts and packed them off.	[04:20]
mircea_popescu	"come back in two years"	[04:21]
decimation	with or without guns?	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	no guns, and not so much clothing either.	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	let the arabs sort it out.	[04:21]
decimation	well, they would be alternately raped and stoned to death I would suspect	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	really	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	?	[04:21]
mircea_popescu	i bet you lower casualties than currently observed.	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	no culture murders nubile defenseless womenz.	[04:22]
mircea_popescu	i tell you, when i am tyrant this is how my tyranyship will be fighting wars.	[04:23]
decimation	unless one of them was a daughter who embarrassed his father?	[04:23]
mircea_popescu	"you piss us off we're sending the girls over your place."	[04:23]
mircea_popescu	decimation exactly. no ties, no killings.	[04:23]
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decimation	well I certainly agree that there would be fewer causalties, given that iraq is safer for said video-game boi than the US, but quite deadly for the average iraqi	[04:24]
decimation	btw if you want to listen to random hams you can go here: http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/ set to "LSB" and tune between 7090 and 7180 or so	[04:26]
assbot	Wide-band WebSDR in JO32KF	[04:26]
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decimation	!up xe4l	[04:29]
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mike_c	i can't find anything	[04:29]
decimation	!up tris	[04:29]
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BingoBoingo	Local TV channels still on "regularly scheduled programming" guess that is a sign of something	[04:30]
decimation	mike_c: it helps if you hit the "zoom in" on waterfall view	[04:30]
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decimation	mike_c: there's a guy talking on 7125 khz (set LSB mode)	[04:32]
mike_c	got him	[04:33]
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mike_c	pretty cool	[04:33]
ben_vulpes	http://cryptybots.com/ << hue	[04:33]
assbot	Index of /	[04:33]
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decimation	LZ2JE was his callsign, http://www.arrl.org/international-call-sign-series << makes him Bulgarian	[04:34]
assbot	International Call Sign Series	[04:34]
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ben_vulpes	Blazedout419: pretty pretty.	[04:38]
BingoBoingo	!up mbr9200	[04:38]
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BingoBoingo	Hello mbr9200	[04:38]
mbr9200	Hey, what's this channel mostly about?	[04:39]
BingoBoingo	mbr9200: Various Bitcoin things, paranoia, nekkid ladies	[04:40]
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mbr9200	interesting	[04:40]
BingoBoingo	!up dpb_reddit	[04:40]
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mbr9200	who is assbot?	[04:40]
BingoBoingo	Hello dpb_reddit	[04:40]
BingoBoingo	What brings you here	[04:40]
decimation	assbot is a robot that manages channel moderation	[04:40]
mbr9200	ahh	[04:40]
mircea_popescu	!up mbr9200	[04:40]
-assbot-	You voiced mbr9200 for another 30 minutes.	[04:40]
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BingoBoingo	mbr9200: Assbot is a bot, gifted to us by kakobrekla in his trememdous benevolence	[04:40]
mbr9200	what is "!up"	[04:41]
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BingoBoingo	mbr9200: Up is what lends you voice in 30 minute intervals	[04:41]
mircea_popescu	gives you voice.	[04:41]
mircea_popescu	!down dpb_reddit	[04:41]
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mircea_popescu	nah he had enough earlier.	[04:41]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: That could have been a new one.	[04:42]
kakobrekla	its not same	[04:42]
BingoBoingo	Different person same name	[04:42]
kakobrekla	!up dpb_reddit	[04:42]
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mircea_popescu	ow.	[04:42]
kakobrekla	have you been here before ?	[04:42]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: The url the sends them here names them	[04:42]
mbr9200	Oh, cool. A cofounder and I came up with a very interesting altcoin idea. I wrote the white papers for it, got a web dev guy, just looking for a coin dev if anyone is able. I also appreciate the large number of people on this chat, good stuff.	[04:43]
mircea_popescu	this theory that redditards have like... different personalities. what do you people do in the intimacy of your own house, name goldfish ?	[04:43]
mbr9200	i had a goldfish once, it jumped out of its bowl	[04:43]
mircea_popescu	mbr9200 the only guy here that made his own coin before would be thickasthieves.	[04:43]
mbr9200	thanks!	[04:43]
mircea_popescu	;;seen thickasthieves	[04:44]
gribble	thickasthieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 10 hours, 20 minutes, and 7 seconds ago: who uses a ripped condom tho?	[04:44]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: I drank with a toad I found in the back yard yesterday...	[04:44]
mbr9200	Okay, thanks	[04:44]
RagnarDanneskjol	the deaf toad	[04:44]
RagnarDanneskjol	you know they got no ears	[04:44]
ben_vulpes	i met a guy today who's doing supercap batteries	[04:44]
ben_vulpes	but miniaturized, and gate-switched for power output.	[04:45]
ben_vulpes	er, power distribution i think may be the correct term?	[04:45]
BingoBoingo	RagnarDanneskjol: Apparently they can't hold their liquor either, he croaked...	[04:45]
decimation	ben_vulpes: are you referring to the kickstarter project for the supercap batteries?	[04:45]
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ben_vulpes	pahaha no.	[04:45]
asciilifeform	re: microwave blaster: raytheon's pumps out 95 GHz. --> ~3mm wavelength. don't have pinholes in the suit.	[04:46]
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ben_vulpes	decimation: http://www.voltavolare.com/	[04:46]
assbot	High-Performance Efficient Aircraft With GT4\|Volta Volar	[04:46]
RagnarDanneskjol	@ mrb9200 - pls email me a job order to admin@bitrecruiter.com - I locate developers for this sort of thing. most of them are scoundrels & losers just fyi	[04:46]
asciilifeform	and use something conductive plus translucent for ocular.	[04:46]
asciilifeform	(what? say, indium. where to get any? easy - self-darkening welding mask.)	[04:46]
ben_vulpes	just bought http://www.spykercars.com/	[04:46]
assbot	Spykercars	[04:46]
decimation	asciilifeform: yeah I suspect they use those suits for vhf/uhf tv and cellular, and even then they probably don't stand in front of live transmitter	[04:47]
asciilifeform	decimation: useless for this application. nothing broadcasts at 95 GHz	[04:47]
TomServo	http://youtu.be/XQqZ9b0S0BY	[04:47]
assbot	The Declaration Of Bitcoin's Independence - YouTube	[04:47]
trixisowned	http://www.ustream.tv/realalexjones/pop-out	[04:47]
assbot	Ustream.Tv	[04:47]
trixisowned	chimpout	[04:47]
TomServo	haha, quite the cast	[04:47]
trixisowned	happening ^	[04:47]
trixisowned	they getting teargasses	[04:47]
trixisowned	etc	[04:47]
trixisowned	teargassed*	[04:47]
decimation	yeah 95 GHz is golden toilet band	[04:48]
decimation	ben_vulpes: this plane uses said supercaps?	[04:49]
ben_vulpes	the plane exhibited has only been flown with lithiums.	[04:49]
ben_vulpes	dunno what supercap means	[04:49]
ben_vulpes	but the capacitative (sp?) plane should be doing demo flights ca. 2016.	[04:49]
asciilifeform	!s supercapacitor	[04:49]
assbot	3 results for 'supercapacitor' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=supercapacitor	[04:49]
asciilifeform	demo flights ca. 2016 << nope.	[04:50]
ben_vulpes	non electrochemical	[04:50]
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ben_vulpes	well duh nope	[04:50]
asciilifeform	to paraphrase old saw, 'fly in it? i wouldn't walk under it'	[04:50]
decimation	I think the best supercaps are lithium chemistry	[04:50]
trixisowned	wtf	[04:51]
trixisowned	they are starting fires and shit	[04:51]
asciilifeform	fast charge - fast discharge. elementary.	[04:51]
ben_vulpes	plain old capacitative modules, fabbed into chips.	[04:51]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2014/критика-и-самокритика/#comment-104692 << look at that, you've indirecly made a s. fan	[04:51]
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asciilifeform	lol!	[04:51]
mircea_popescu	re: microwave blaster: raytheon's pumps out 95 GHz. --> ~3mm wavelength. don't have pinholes in the suit. << it only works if continuous, for one.	[04:52]
mircea_popescu	RagnarDanneskjol can you locate one of these azn ipad developers making shitty games ? or is it like the spammers, by the time their handiwork is seen they're long married/drafted/gone	[04:52]
asciilifeform	trixisowned: that stream is hilarious	[04:53]
trixisowned	yes it is	[04:53]
asciilifeform	almost as good as the 'occupy dc' from way back	[04:53]
trixisowned	"this is your final warning!"	[04:53]
trixisowned	http://www.ustream.tv/realalexjones/pop-out	[04:53]
assbot	Ustream.Tv	[04:53]
trixisowned	ahahaha	[04:53]
trixisowned	theres a building on fire	[04:53]
trixisowned	this is ridiculous	[04:53]
BingoBoingo	trixisowned: Say waht you will, but black America is probably that last "Real America"	[04:55]
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RagnarDanneskjol	mircea_popescu - sure, those guys are dime a dozen. I can find almost any spec you throw at me - the more detailed & complex the better. Its kind of nice cause I work in a female dominated industry (HR) so I tend to gravitate all the jobs noone else can fill	[04:57]
asciilifeform	for non-usians:	[04:58]
asciilifeform	ever wonder why detroid looks like berlin circa '45 from the air?	[04:58]
asciilifeform	this is why.	[04:58]
asciilifeform	*detroit	[04:58]
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trixisowned	"protest"	[04:59]
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asciilifeform	why is that camera not flying on a toy chopper again?	[05:02]
decimation	I wonder if this will lead to a cleavage between the poor brown power base of the elites who run the inner party?	[05:02]
trixisowned	inb4 they cut out cell service	[05:02]
decimation	asciilifeform: the FAA ordered a "shutdown" of the airspace there: http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_4_2599.html	[05:03]
assbot	4/2599 NOTAM Details	[05:03]
asciilifeform	decimation: 'not caught - not thief'	[05:03]
decimation	yeah but streaming video on ustream isn't exactly hiding evidence...	[05:04]
asciilifeform	from comment stream:	[05:04]
asciilifeform	'i can't fap to this'	[05:04]
decimation	plus I'm certain that sighting such a gadget flying around would be a pretext to crack down on something else	[05:05]
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asciilifeform	decimation: let them shoot 10,000 of them	[05:05]
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asciilifeform	(these police, on the other hand, will shoot no one. 'it would be racist' (tm) )	[05:06]
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asciilifeform	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Range_Acoustic_Device	[05:07]
assbot	Long Range Acoustic Device - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	[05:07]
asciilifeform	^ the dish from before	[05:07]
decimation	yeah that must be high frequency chirps just heard	[05:07]
trixisowned	...	[05:08]
trixisowned	http://fox2now.com/on-air/live-streaming-2/	[05:08]
assbot	Live Streaming 2 \| FOX2now.com	[05:08]
trixisowned	watch this one	[05:08]
trixisowned	its way higher quality	[05:08]
asciilifeform	my favourite incarnation of this idea is the '80s french 7 Hz speaker	[05:08]
trixisowned	they are throwing fireworks	[05:08]
trixisowned	http://fox2now.com/on-air/live-streaming-2/ <-	[05:08]
assbot	Live Streaming 2 \| FOX2now.com	[05:08]
asciilifeform	everybody dumps his doughnuts, cops and rioters alike	[05:08]
trixisowned	holy fuck	[05:08]
decimation	asciilifeform: the brown note?	[05:08]
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asciilifeform	aye	[05:08]
trixisowned	http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930	[05:08]
trixisowned	here	[05:08]
trixisowned	this one is working too	[05:09]
asciilifeform	the thing that always perplexed me about american 'revolts' is	[05:09]
decimation	looks like they've started to hand out free cs gas	[05:09]
asciilifeform	they always burn... their own streets.	[05:09]
trixisowned	wow	[05:09]
trixisowned	wtf	[05:09]
trixisowned	they are firing on the houses	[05:09]
trixisowned	wtf	[05:09]
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BingoBoingo	http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/protesters-police-again-facing-off-in-ferguson/article_0806541b-ed48-5d06-9267-323531ad6cf1.html	[05:10]
assbot	Washington Post, Huffington Post reporters say they were arrested while covering Ferguson protests : News	[05:10]
BingoBoingo	they always burn... their own streets. << The one thing "Occupy" seemed to make an earnest effort to correct	[05:10]
asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: except that it was a theatrical production of the collegiate muppet class	[05:11]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Yeah, they were light on the burning and trashing	[05:11]
trixisowned	http://new.livestream.com/accounts/9035483/events/3271930 this one is the best stream	[05:11]
assbot	I am Mike Brown Live from Ferguson, MO on Livestream	[05:11]
asciilifeform	heavy on the marx and engels	[05:12]
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asciilifeform	we'll know it's a real holiday when the radio jammers kick in.	[05:14]
decimation	this goes to my earlier point about a split in the Dem. party. it's not like the usg elite overlords act in their interest	[05:14]
BingoBoingo	heavy on the marx and engels << their names, but not ideas in any informed way, walked into local encampement at the time, no one wanted to debate hegel	[05:15]
decimation	BingoBoingo: that would be amusing to watch (hegel debate) "Hegel who?"	[05:15]
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asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: i actually tried to talk to the occupy folks, purely for own amusement, on several occasions	[05:16]
BingoBoingo	decimation: Local at the time "Occupy" camp was on the way back to my apartment walking from place that served 44 oz booze slushies	[05:16]
asciilifeform	typical: me - 'what do you stand for ?' - 'we will build an utopia!' [literal. followed by 20 min. of i-forget-what]	[05:17]
BingoBoingo	Wasn't the worst place to pick up girls from though	[05:17]
asciilifeform	there were crackpots handing out self-printed books, etc	[05:17]
asciilifeform	i have 30GB or so of video, mostly a snore	[05:18]
asciilifeform	'occupy' - sucked	[05:18]
trixisowned	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bu9u0RuCIAE4yXc.jpg	[05:18]
decimation	yeah the wto protests about 10 years ago in DC were more lively	[05:18]
BingoBoingo	Once I even held a sign on the street corner for a while said "RUF is for the People" and none of the other people had a concrete idea of what RUF was or where they operated...	[05:18]
BingoBoingo	Maybe I should have brought a machete to demonstrate?	[05:19]
asciilifeform	all the big d.c. protests are theatrical productions	[05:19]
asciilifeform	of approximately the same people	[05:19]
asciilifeform	(quite often, literally the same.)	[05:20]
BingoBoingo	heavy on the marx and engels	[05:20]
BingoBoingo	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolutionary_United_Front	[05:20]
assbot	Revolutionary United Front - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	[05:20]
asciilifeform	they even bring the same props (e.g. a gigantic green papier machet muppet) to every one	[05:20]
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BingoBoingo	Local one there was... A tent	[05:20]
decimation	and your anti-nsa bus or whatever	[05:20]
asciilifeform	decimation: that one, if its inhabitant is to be believed, can be found near the museum of natural history every monday night.	[05:21]
decimation	there's also the bum who protests something nuclear camped in front of the white house	[05:21]
asciilifeform	i thought he died this year	[05:21]
decimation	since DC is run by aging hippies, that's how they like it	[05:21]
asciilifeform	his... 32st?	[05:21]
decimation	I haven't been around in awhile, could be the case	[05:22]
BingoBoingo	https://twitter.com/chesterlampkin/status/499740599474335744	[05:22]
assbot	/hashtag/Ferguson?src=hash RT /DonGallowayKSDK: Trapped in news car, flash bombs, tear gas everywhere.. http://t.co/ScTiI85ZNf	[05:22]
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mircea_popescu	RagnarDanneskjol aite ima work something out.	[05:24]
decimation	this Ferguson thing is trying to be a theater but no one knows the script	[05:25]
RagnarDanneskjol	ok	[05:25]
RagnarDanneskjol	speaking of - I've been on that Jason guy to commit to timeframe - sounds wishywashy so I'm gonna find a few backups and just send them the log so you dont have to repeat everything	[05:26]
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assbot	Gotta love that negro speak pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[05:27]
BingoBoingo	"The entrepreneurial spirit is not dead. For it ain’t ever dyin’, that’s why. And also fuck you, Mr. Obama, because if he paints that forest he motherfucking made that forest. (If he eats those pizzas he even more fucking definitely made that forest. It needs dung you know ?)"	[05:29]
BingoBoingo	^ Quote from the most underrated English Trilema article	[05:29]
BingoBoingo	"Not everyone’s an entrepreneur, either. Some kids, poor kids, “urban” kids are scholars, in nucet. They may not have my rare and expensive equipment, sure. But whether the BBC does manage to agree that climate pseudo-science should be promoted as “the only alternative” or not, my hopes rest with a bunch of inner city negroes. No matter what, these kids will still carry through the world the ability to reason, and that	[05:30]
BingoBoingo	’s quite good enough for me. Fuck the instruments, as great as they are : they’ll make their own, and it’ll be the same anyway, because there’s exactly one way to make a great piece of lab equipment. The alternatives are only there to confound the issues. See, teh BBC got it right after all >D"	[05:30]
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mircea_popescu	wow wtf they are firing on the houses << lol famous last words	[05:33]
mircea_popescu	this goes to my earlier point about a split in the Dem. party. it's not like the usg elite overlords act in their interest << markov chains have no self interest.	[05:34]
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mircea_popescu	'occupy' - sucked << that's because they don;'t know how to protest.	[05:35]
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BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu> this goes to my earlier point about a split in the Dem. party. it's not like the usg elite overlords act in their interest << markov chains have no self interest. << Vexual seems to	[05:35]
mircea_popescu	;;google cum se protesteaza corect	[05:35]
gribble	Ianuarie 2012 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Iunie 2010 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Asociatia Pro Democratia \| Facebook:	[05:35]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2010/cum-se-protesteaza-corect/ << nudity required for protest to count.	[05:36]
assbot	Cum se protesteaza corect pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[05:36]
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mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo o hey, i was reading the quotes and went who the fuck is this, scary smart.	[05:38]
mircea_popescu	then i saw the link. go me.	[05:38]
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BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: lol, there's a read between the lines situation in posting those now	[05:38]
BingoBoingo	;;later tell nubbins' fap to this http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_eye/2014/08/12/the_sec_s_antimodern_logo_evokes_southern_tradition_authenticity.html	[05:43]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[05:43]
assbot	The SEC's anti-modern logo evokes Southern tradition, authenticity.	[05:43]
BingoBoingo	https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/statuses/499714719318835201	[05:45]
assbot	Twitter / mattdpearce: I just called Ferguson police ...	[05:45]
BingoBoingo	I just called Ferguson police chief to ask about @WesleyLowery and @ryanjreilly, told him what I knew. His response: "Oh, God."	[05:45]
BingoBoingo	https://twitter.com/john_dingell/statuses/491586961392816128	[05:47]
assbot	Twitter / john_dingell: Staff has now informed me of ...	[05:47]
BingoBoingo	John Dingell ✔ @john_dingell	[05:47]
BingoBoingo	Follow	[05:47]
BingoBoingo	Staff has now informed me of what a Kardashian is. I'm only left with more questions.	[05:47]
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BingoBoingo	Hello dpb_reddit	[05:52]
BingoBoingo	What brings you here today dpb_reddit?	[05:52]
dpb_reddit	!up	[05:52]
dpb_reddit	dreamstring	[05:52]
BingoBoingo	dpb_reddit: It's cool you have voice now. What is dreamstring?	[05:53]
dpb_reddit	Oh my bad!	[05:53]
dpb_reddit	thanks!	[05:53]
dpb_reddit	How would I go about changing my nick/signing up?	[05:53]
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trixisowned	http://www.washingtonpost.com/posttv/national/post-reporter-detained-in-ferguson/2014/08/13/b0fc5720-2354-11e4-8b10-7db129976abb_video.html	[05:55]
assbot	Post's Lowery detained in Ferguson - The Washington Post	[05:55]
trixisowned	omfg	[05:55]
RagnarDanneskjol	@ dpb_reddit http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets	[05:56]
assbot	first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki]	[05:56]
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dpb_reddit	ty ragnar doing that now	[05:57]
kakobrekla	and dont register 'dpb_reddit'	[05:57]
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dpb_reddit	ofc not haha	[05:58]
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BingoBoingo	!up dpb_reddit	[06:00]
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BingoBoingo	dpb_reddit: Which post in particular brought you here?	[06:01]
dpb_reddit	http://www.reddit.com/r/Jobs4Bitcoins/comments/2dhehr/hiring_developers_for_serious_bitcoin_startup/	[06:01]
assbot	[HIRING] Developers for Serious Bitcoin Startup : Jobs4Bitcoins	[06:01]
dpb_reddit	this one here	[06:01]
dpb_reddit	only cause i am starting my own bitcoin related company	[06:01]
dpb_reddit	looking for devs to move through seed round	[06:01]
BingoBoingo	dpb_reddit: At least you haven't wished "Best candida" on us yet like one of your predecessors with that name did.	[06:02]
dpb_reddit	that is only slightly terrfiying	[06:02]
BingoBoingo	Sounds incredibly itchy	[06:04]
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BingoBoingo	dpb_reddit: Well, since someone linked you instructions...	[06:05]
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BingoBoingo	!down dpb_reddit	[06:05]
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BingoBoingo	http://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/08/13/ferguson-protests-fourth-night-tear-gas/14037883/	[06:06]
assbot	Police use tear gas to break up Ferguson crowd	[06:06]
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BingoBoingo	Imma hypothesize that few things introduce people to each other and unite communities as effectively as teargas.	[06:08]
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trixisowned	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bu970VfCEAAZdvD.jpg	[06:12]
trixisowned	wtf	[06:13]
trixisowned	some guy just speed through	[06:13]
trixisowned	the crowd	[06:13]
trixisowned	and was honking his horn	[06:13]
trixisowned	wtf	[06:13]
trixisowned	ahahaha	[06:14]
trixisowned	alex jones	[06:14]
trixisowned	is giving up	[06:14]
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trixisowned	oops	[06:14]
trixisowned	sorry dudes wrong channel	[06:14]
decimation	I would like to know how the democratic police think that distributing cs gas randomly around the town is going to effective at accomplishing anything	[06:16]
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trixisowned	The police are now retreating near the QuickTrip as sounds of gun shots fill the air. I'm not sure what is coming but police are screaming	[06:17]
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BingoBoingo	!up dreamstring	[06:26]
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dreamstring	appreciated bingo!	[06:27]
trixisowned	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=720_l3dgbYA	[06:31]
assbot	Al-Jazeera runs from teargas in Ferguson - YouTube	[06:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [ROCK] 1185 @ 0.0006328 = 0.7499 BTC [-] {2}	[06:31]
trixisowned	holy fuck	[06:31]
dreamstring	While I have a voice, I'd like to put out for any developers interested in a possible position in a start up based around creating a mobile mining oriented cryptocurrency. The company is the Dreamstring platform, aiming to create a crypto that distributes supply and time using the fibonacci, as well as creating an equal distribution to each cellular phone user to download the mobile application.	[06:32]
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dreamstring	The app aims to distribute the currency to each person to download the free app equally, as well as offer different teirs/levels of accounts for shopping, buying/selling, and trading goods and services.	[06:33]
BingoBoingo	dreamstring: See http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/854859070616151112.jpg	[06:33]
BingoBoingo	Lower left corner	[06:33]
dreamstring	oh no	[06:33]
dreamstring	im getting trolled arent i.	[06:33]
BingoBoingo	dreamstring: nah, the red stuff is whale shit, not menstral painting	[06:35]
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dreamstring	damn man im all about that shark week but idk what this is getting at	[06:36]
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BingoBoingo	dreamstring: Well, what makes "mobile mining" special and desirable?	[06:38]
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dreamstring	Nothing besides the fact that by using a PoW/PoS hybrid you can group people into different teir groups based on their cell phones to make sure everyone is getting the same distribution of the currency.	[06:39]
dreamstring	in theory the hashrate doesnt mean anything besides securing from a 51% and determining who contributed what amount of work	[06:39]
BingoBoingo	And what does that offer anyone who has money that could give such a currency value?	[06:39]
dreamstring	but that still ads to the rich get richer kinda aspect bitcoin is fighting against	[06:39]
dreamstring	a deflationary currency	[06:39]
dreamstring	and a global decentralized trading platform on every phone through a centralized security outlet	[06:40]
dreamstring	it creates a whole new market really	[06:41]
dreamstring	introduce peolpe in india/kenya/africa that use MPESA rn	[06:41]
BingoBoingo	but that still ads to the rich get richer kinda aspect bitcoin is fighting against << Who said this is a part of Bitcoin, Bitcoin fights the stupid getting richer...	[06:41]
dreamstring	to an even market with people in the US	[06:41]
dreamstring	my bad poor wording	[06:42]
dreamstring	in the sense that those with money can afford more asics can afford to make more	[06:42]
dreamstring	expotential profit	[06:42]
dreamstring	this allows everyone to start off on an even note	[06:42]
dreamstring	and then based on how you use your money that you are distributed, well the smart use it well/open their own stores on the market, the poor just get paid for having a phone	[06:43]
BingoBoingo	What about people with money who don't want "smart" phones?	[06:43]
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BingoBoingo	And what about people who make VM farms spoofing millions of "mobile devices?"	[06:43]
BingoBoingo	!down dreamstring	[06:43]
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BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Maybe you were right about voicing the reddit referrals...	[06:44]
kakobrekla	!up dreamstring	[06:44]
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kakobrekla	are you here to learn?	[06:45]
dreamstring	people who dont want smart phones are living in the past, why should the btc community care about them anyway, and the VM farming i already created a verifciation system that needs a hardware id and device verification to use	[06:45]
dreamstring	ty kakbo	[06:45]
kakobrekla	answer the q?	[06:45]
dreamstring	im not trying to argue, i think i have a very valid plan of attack	[06:45]
dreamstring	and was there something i left unanswered?	[06:45]
BingoBoingo	kakobrekla> are you here to learn? << This dreamstring	[06:46]
kakobrekla	myea	[06:46]
dreamstring	the reality is everyone has a smart phone, thats how the gov wants it. well use that and give everyone a smart phone a new start to a currency connected to everyone with a smart phone... which is everyone in the world.	[06:46]
kakobrekla	!down dreamstring	[06:46]
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kakobrekla	go dream away.	[06:47]
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BingoBoingo	the reality is everyone has a smart phone, thats how the gov wants it. well use that and give everyone a smart phone a new start to a currency connected to everyone with a smart phone... which is everyone in the world. << I haven't had one in years	[06:47]
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BingoBoingo	umad << Why would I be mad?	[06:48]
kakobrekla	up him if you intend to have a convo btw.	[06:48]
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BingoBoingo	kakobrekla: I tried but he seemed more interested in polishing bullet points.	[06:49]
kakobrekla	i guess the real question is - they have a logo yet?	[06:50]
BingoBoingo	;;google dreamstrings	[06:50]
gribble	Requiem for a Dream (Strings) - YouTube: ; "Angels Watch Us While We're Sleeping-A Dream"...strings, choral ...: ; Kalafina - I have a dream(strings version) - YouTube:	[06:50]
BingoBoingo	;;google dreamstrings mobile mined shitcoin	[06:50]
gribble	No matches found.	[06:50]
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mike_c	did somebody hang a sign somewhere saying b-a is looking for work?	[06:53]
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BingoBoingo	;;google theymos scammer tag	[07:01]
gribble	[CLOSED] GLBSE drama - Bitcoin Forum: ; Scammer tag : Nefario, theymos, others known and unknown - Trilema: ; AMA Request: The most powerful man in bitcoin, Theymos. \| The ...:	[07:01]
TheNewDeal	oooo this looks good	[07:02]
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BingoBoingo	%t	[07:04]
atcbot	[X-BT] Bid: 188 Ask: 225 Last Price: 188 24h-Vol: 152k High: 195 Low: 188 VWAP: 192	[07:04]
BingoBoingo	%d	[07:05]
atcbot	[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 186726.40 in 1990 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -90.06	[07:05]
BingoBoingo	!up dreamstring	[07:06]
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dreamstring	Alright im ready to have my ass handed to me	[07:06]
dreamstring	im on the defense on you shooting down the altcoin	[07:07]
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BingoBoingo	dreamstring: Just admit you were woefully under prepared and you are gong to actually read.	[07:07]
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dreamstring	Oh that was a sad sad attempt at what I thought would be a two second plug	[07:08]
dreamstring	I'll be much more willing to discuss the details of what i have planned once i know how this place operates though, thanks.	[07:09]
BingoBoingo	dreamstring: I'm kind of expecting that if you read you can have a few thousand words on why it was broken	[07:11]
BingoBoingo	!s ATC	[07:11]
assbot	924 results for 'ATC' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=ATC	[07:11]
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dreamstring	Just through the logs bash?	[07:12]
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BingoBoingo	;;topic	[07:12]
gribble	http://bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://log.bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com	[07:12]
BingoBoingo	dreamstring: blogs and bash are a quicker primer, logs take a while	[07:12]
BingoBoingo	!s litecoin experiment	[07:13]
assbot	1 results for 'litecoin experiment' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=litecoin+experiment	[07:13]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo: Imma hypothesize that few things introduce people to each other and unite communities as effectively as teargas. <<< candida, actually :D	[07:15]
dreamstring	word, thanks for the reads. Im gonna cash out for the night while i delve into some of theses. thanks guys.	[07:15]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: lol	[07:16]
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mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surpass-berkshire-as-an-investment/ << 162 confirmed bets. a rrrrrrecord.	[07:20]
assbot	BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment :: 1121.08 B (86%) on Yes, 186.56 B (14%) on No \| closing in 6 months 4 days \| weight: 55`100 (100`000 to 1)	[07:20]
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BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Which part is the record in this case?	[07:26]
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mike_c	;;calc (199609 / [ticker --last]) - 314.6	[07:29]
gribble	56.5377200974	[07:29]
mike_c	woohoo warren. running like a man in his 70's.	[07:29]
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mircea_popescu	!up laurita	[07:29]
-assbot-	You voiced laurita for 30 minutes.	[07:29]
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mircea_popescu	mike_c got a solid 20% there.	[07:29]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo iirc it was like 87 or so	[07:29]
mike_c	he's killing it. we'll see if he can keep it up.	[07:30]
mircea_popescu	he was underwater by abou 10% at some point there	[07:30]
mike_c	he hadn't heard about the bet yet	[07:30]
mircea_popescu	anyway, remember all the knowitalls that explained how unfair a bet it was, right then ? because OBIVOUSLY etc.	[07:31]
mike_c	^ the story of all interesting bitbets	[07:31]
mircea_popescu	peepz just got this irresistible impulse to believe they know shit.	[07:31]
mircea_popescu	a btw mike_c : http://trilema.com/2014/petameta/	[07:32]
assbot	PetaMeta pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[07:32]
mike_c	I saw :) i disagree with a couple points, but a counter-rebuttal.. too meta	[07:32]
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TheNewDeal	this thread is goldem	[07:36]
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mike_c	mencken has some interesting quotes, doesn't he.	[07:36]
TheNewDeal	love how many dumbasses / psuedonyms thermos exposed to back himself	[07:37]
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mike_c	lol fluffypony. you don't get to accept! assbot rates who assbot wants.	[07:38]
BingoBoingo	;;seen penguirker	[07:38]
gribble	penguirker was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 10 hours, 42 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/butterflylabs-refund-date-updated-08132014/	[07:38]
BingoBoingo	http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/13/record-large-public-bitcoin-bet-reached/	[07:39]
assbot	Record Large Public Bitcoin Bet Reached \| Bingo Blog	[07:39]
mike_c	i was too lazy to look. did anybody get kicked out of assbot L1?	[07:39]
BingoBoingo	mike_c: dexx7, danielpbarron, checkdavid	[07:40]
mike_c	ah. 30 people right now. i wonder what the right # is.	[07:41]
BingoBoingo	Prolly between 2 and 78	[07:42]
penguirker	New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/13/record-large-public-bitcoin-bet-reached/	[07:42]
BingoBoingo	150 would definitely be too many	[07:42]
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kyuupichan	dub: tq	[08:13]
TheNewDeal	bitcoin is not against rich getting richer	[08:14]
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BingoBoingo	https://twitter.com/TefPoe Alderman arrested in Ferguson	[08:39]
assbot	Tef Poe/FootKlan (TefPoe) auf Twitter	[08:39]
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ben_vulpes	make a connection. << http://survantjames.com does objective-c whatever, provided you're willing to pay fiat objective-c rates for people who actually know what they're doing.	[08:54]
assbot	Survant James - Design & Engineering	[08:54]
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FabianB	$mpexstatus	[08:58]
empyex	FabianB: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.co mpex.biz mpex.coinbr.com Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91	[08:58]
empyex	FabianB: MPEx-Status: mpex.ws (884 milliseconds), mpex.bz (1177 milliseconds), mpex.co (error), mpex.biz (787 milliseconds), mpex.coinbr.com (929 milliseconds)	[08:58]
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mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes nope. i'm willing to pay a pittance to take over code already written and not making a penny.	[09:44]
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mircea_popescu	Prolly between 2 and 78 << hopefully 200ish	[09:50]
BingoBoingo	In time	[09:51]
BingoBoingo	Oh, I went from having under 10k Meat in merchandise in my mall store to...	[09:56]
BingoBoingo	Approaching 50% of danielpbarron's marketcap for his BTC/MEAT asset in just shit from years ago	[09:57]
danielpbarron	:O	[09:59]
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BingoBoingo	Hello Anon29486307___	[10:06]
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RagnarDanneskjol	mircea_popescu - I have my bot dev on the other line - he is reading the logs right now. This guy runs the bot for my room. lemme know if you're around to chat it up w/ him	[10:35]
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RagnarDanneskjol	thats him	[10:36]
RagnarDanneskjol	dunno if he's around Molo, hang in for a bit	[10:36]
BingoBoingo	!up MolokoDeck	[10:37]
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RagnarDanneskjol	oh yea	[10:37]
MolokoDeck	hello, ragnar	[10:37]
RagnarDanneskjol	ahoy	[10:37]
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MolokoDeck	so, I'm still reviewing the bitcoin-assets log related to a bot project involving posting and cryptosigning cryptodocuments.. or something to that effect.	[10:38]
MolokoDeck	ok. so it handles both pre-encrypted and plaintext documents.	[10:40]
MolokoDeck	authentication test from a single-point trusted registry.	[10:41]
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MolokoDeck	insertion of validation hash onto the bitcoin block chain with a transaction: requires use of the bitcoind API or connection to the bitcoin mining network.	[10:42]
BigBitz	mircea_popescu I like LastPass, actually :)	[10:42]
MolokoDeck	also requires the bot to have a wallet.	[10:43]
RagnarDanneskjol	nothing to do with inserting hash to bitcoin	[10:43]
MolokoDeck	am I reading the same thing you are?	[10:43]
RagnarDanneskjol	and not necessarily running bitcoind / wallet. i will let mircea elaborate	[10:43]
RagnarDanneskjol	yes	[10:43]
MolokoDeck	"2. all the valid deeds received in a specified interval, say 512 seconds, are appended together, hashed, and the resulting hash is inserted into a bitcoin transaction, which becomes part of the bitcoin blocchain."	[10:43]
mircea_popescu	RagnarDanneskjol more or less.	[10:44]
mircea_popescu	MolokoDeck hey there.	[10:44]
MolokoDeck	only the validating hash goes on the blockchain, not the entire block of documents, I take it?	[10:44]
MolokoDeck	hello.	[10:44]
mircea_popescu	yes, only the hash.	[10:44]
MolokoDeck	the bot has to buffer state and monitor for validations, which could take tens of minutes, then inform the irc channel, and update the central web logs for public notice.	[10:45]
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BigBitz	mircea_popescu you're trying to create some new bot? what purpose?	[10:46]
mircea_popescu	tis in teh logs.	[10:46]
MolokoDeck	automated contract notarization I would think.	[10:46]
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mircea_popescu	MolokoDeck validations of what ?	[10:46]
MolokoDeck	or something entirely general purpose.	[10:47]
BigBitz	mircea_popescu you know I am lazy. :(	[10:47]
RagnarDanneskjol	bigbitz http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2014#789365	[10:47]
assbot	#bitcoin-assets log	[10:47]
BigBitz	thanks RagnarDanneskjol.	[10:47]
MolokoDeck	the block of documents gets cryptosigned with a hash of the documents inside. That hash gets sent to the blockchain. The other validation (initial validation) is of the cryptosignature on each document. The documents have to be legit before they go into the bundle that get's logged and recorded permenently as a hash on the blockchain.	[10:48]
MolokoDeck	so I overloade the term "validate".	[10:48]
MolokoDeck	overloaded.	[10:48]
MolokoDeck	the blockchain is being used to make an immutable public record of the authenticating hash of the document bundle being published.	[10:49]
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MolokoDeck	since the hash is inserted as a comment in the blockchain, I think one might be able to create bogus blocks that have the same has by inserting a salt and mining a single hash here.	[10:50]
MolokoDeck	lemme think about that.	[10:51]
MolokoDeck	you can't change the hash, but you could make any block match the hash, possibly, if you had enough mining time.	[10:51]
BigBitz	Negative.	[10:52]
MolokoDeck	it wouldn't be on the central trusted registry though, but that may not be entirely secure. or someone would have to check an document the recieved by another channel against the central registry or website.	[10:52]
BigBitz	the nonce, at best, you could influence.	[10:52]
MolokoDeck	ok. am I clueless?	[10:52]
BigBitz	the block hash you cannot influence (AFAIK)	[10:53]
MolokoDeck	right, you'd dither the nonce until you got some other block to match the hash.	[10:53]
BigBitz	heh, I may be clueless, but I don't think a miner can influence the hash value of the clock.	[10:53]
MolokoDeck	oh nevermind. It would have to match the ENTIRE hash. megayears. ok. i get it.	[10:53]
BigBitz	err block.	[10:53]
BigBitz	Yup - correct.	[10:53]
BigBitz	If they had some quantums, maybe :P	[10:53]
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MolokoDeck	I'm not sure there's a quantum algorith for SHA256 that's particularly leveraged, but there are supposedly turing-complete quantum gate computers that could accellerate that. Let's not go into that.	[10:54]
MolokoDeck	those don't exist yet at any meaningful scale.	[10:54]
BingoBoingo	lol, There was an optical computing conversation this week...	[10:55]
MolokoDeck	whatever happened to that optical matrix multiplcation chip?	[10:55]
MolokoDeck	ok. getting distracted.	[10:55]
BigBitz	:)	[10:55]
MolokoDeck	hi.	[10:55]
BigBitz	hey.	[10:55]
BigBitz	I just you.	[10:56]
BigBitz	and this is crazy.	[10:56]
BigBitz	but here's my number.	[10:56]
BigBitz	so call me maybe?	[10:56]
mircea_popescu	right, you'd dither the nonce until you got some other block to match the hash. << the nonce isn't actually large enough	[10:57]
BingoBoingo	I just met you, this is crazy. Here's my weiner. So blow me baby.	[10:57]
MolokoDeck	doable in php or python. php has a fairly bad reputation in cryptocurrency lately. And in computer science for different reasons (you can't predict the outcome of certain operations).	[10:57]
mircea_popescu	you'd need a nonce as large as the keyspace of the hash	[10:57]
MolokoDeck	also in php one would either have to use a package or use system calls to do the encryption.	[10:57]
MolokoDeck	I've done it that way.	[10:57]
MolokoDeck	I was wondering about that. I'm not clear on how much influence a nonce has on hash outcomes. so that explains that question.	[10:58]
BigBitz	none is only 32 bit field.	[10:58]
BigBitz	nonce. man. my typing is getting bad in my older years.	[10:59]
MolokoDeck	I was considering just adding an arbirary number of bits to the bogus message.	[10:59]
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MolokoDeck	anyway, I think you've settled my question about the feasibility/non-feasibility of spoofing a single hash.	[11:00]
MolokoDeck	the security of the bot sending something via bitcoin api ... still thinking about that.	[11:01]
MolokoDeck	is this for everyone in the world to use, or only for a select community of presumable trusted parties?	[11:02]
MolokoDeck	obviously they'd have to be registered with wot.	[11:02]
RagnarDanneskjol	or just each other	[11:02]
BingoBoingo	MolokoDeck: If you have a good source of entropy for nonces, electrum has a nice CLI, this thing prolly ought to be connected to a private electrum server though if going for that over bitcoind	[11:02]
MolokoDeck	looking at a case where anyone can put a hash on the blockchain and present a document block with that hash.	[11:02]
mircea_popescu	MolokoDeck to validate a hash has to be signed by someone in assbot's l2	[11:03]
mircea_popescu	meh,. a message not a hash	[11:04]
MolokoDeck	sure, a non-mining/non-blockchain-manitaining client.	[11:05]
MolokoDeck	typos.	[11:05]
RagnarDanneskjol	reading for later: http://bh.ht.vc/vhost_confusion.pdf - vhost exploits, sorry pdf only	[11:06]
MolokoDeck	ok. not sure what my timeframe to completion on this would be presuming I would be doing it. My development resources are limited right now (one virtual host)	[11:06]
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RagnarDanneskjol	I got server space coming outta my ears	[11:07]
RagnarDanneskjol	all those half finished projects	[11:07]
MolokoDeck	ok. that's solved.	[11:07]
MolokoDeck	heh. I know the feeling.	[11:07]
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RagnarDanneskjol	!up MolokoDeck	[11:08]
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mircea_popescu	MolokoDeck there's no rush.	[11:09]
mircea_popescu	and yeah, we have ~ one trillion boxes.	[11:09]
MolokoDeck	ok. my feeling about it now is doable. timescale more than a few weeks, adjustment of code until everyone's satsified, then some committment to maintain or modify it if desirable.	[11:10]
[]bot	Bet placed: 3 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $500 before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1006/ Odds: 64(Y):36(N) by coin, 60(Y):40(N) by weight. Total bet: 6.597 BTC. Current weight: 72,617.	[11:10]
MolokoDeck	let me look into it.	[11:10]
BigBitz	which market does that use, mircea_popescu?	[11:10]
BigBitz	as Bitfinex hit sub 500.	[11:10]
BigBitz	Ah uses Bitstamp.	[11:10]
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BingoBoingo	;;ticker	[11:11]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 509.91, Best ask: 509.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.08000, Last trade: 510.0, 24 hour volume: 29402.57027823, 24 hour low: 508.12, 24 hour high: 562.04, 24 hour vwap: 538.760662926	[11:11]
RagnarDanneskjol	Molo, please try to work on it some this weekend... I am actively recruiting until it gets done- first to finish line wins	[11:11]
MolokoDeck	testing the bottom at 480-whatever seems reasonable.	[11:11]
mircea_popescu	BigBitz nfi.	[11:11]
RagnarDanneskjol	;;rate MolokoDeck 2 bot wizard, smart alec	[11:11]
gribble	Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.	[11:11]
MolokoDeck	ok, I'm not a big fan of races and bounties, but understood.	[11:11]
RagnarDanneskjol	doof	[11:11]
BigBitz	:_	[11:12]
MolokoDeck	you should keep looking.	[11:12]
mircea_popescu	srsly, it's not a huge rush, it's been waiting for the proper maker/maintainer for monthgs,.	[11:12]
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MolokoDeck	I'll stay in touch with ragnar about this.	[11:13]
RagnarDanneskjol	gratzi, love ye man	[11:13]
BingoBoingo	http://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surpass-berkshire-as-an-investment/	[11:13]
assbot	BitBet - Bitcoin to surpass Berkshire as an investment :: 1121.08 B (86%) on Yes, 186.56 B (14%) on No \| closing in 6 months 4 days \| weight: 55`052 (100`000 to 1)	[11:13]
mircea_popescu	if anyone cares, ultima forever is closing august 29th. http://forums.ultimaforever.com/index.php?topic=867.0	[11:15]
assbot	Important Sunset Announcement	[11:15]
mircea_popescu	14 months is what a forever takes these days	[11:17]
RagnarDanneskjol	heh	[11:17]
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cazalla	was it any good?	[11:19]
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RagnarDanneskjol	thats what she said	[11:21]
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RagnarDanneskjol	http://oai.dtic.mil/oai/oai?verb=getRecord&metadataPrefix=html&identifier=ADA597771 please consider whatever trojan horsery might be hiding is pdf from this source. looks safe to be, but what do I know	[11:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.28051001 = 0.561 BTC [+]	[11:25]
mircea_popescu	ultima ? well... like a ultima i imagine.,	[11:25]
cazalla	so pk fest	[11:25]
mircea_popescu	http://i.imgur.com/LRQOrEX.jpg	[11:26]
BingoBoingo	http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/08/woman-allegedly-steals-phone-calls-911-because-victim-was-harassing-her/	[11:36]
assbot	Alleged phone thief calls 911 because victim wont leave her alone \| Ars Technica	[11:36]
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RagnarDanneskjol	taken to King County Jail for investigation of robbery as well as for allegedly possessing three grams of crack	[11:37]
RagnarDanneskjol	makes sense now	[11:37]
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[]bot	Bet placed: 2 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $500 before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1006/ Odds: 80(Y):20(N) by coin, 76(Y):24(N) by weight. Total bet: 11.597 BTC. Current weight: 72,569.	[11:54]
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RagnarDanneskjol	btc @ 499 on btce, good times	[11:59]
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wyrdmantis	;;last	[12:02]
gribble	[04:59:08] btc @ 499 on btce, good times	[12:02]
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wyrdmantis	;;ticker	[12:05]
gribble	Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 511.26, Best ask: 511.8, Bid-ask spread: 0.54000, Last trade: 511.8, 24 hour volume: 30566.58153234, 24 hour low: 506.66, 24 hour high: 558.0, 24 hour vwap: 537.336702671	[12:05]
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wyrdmantis	http://coinfinance.com/news/creating-the-largest-highest-density-bitcoin-community-in-the-world	[12:06]
assbot	Creating The Largest, Highest-Density Bitcoin Community In The World	[12:06]
wyrdmantis	wow such marketing	[12:06]
RagnarDanneskjol	sounds uncomfortable, like this: http://static.messynessychic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/kowlooncity.jpg	[12:11]
RagnarDanneskjol	hadn't seen this one before: http://www.btcbeauties.com/	[12:13]
assbot	bitcoin-beauties-	[12:13]
[]bot	Bet placed: 1.00089999 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $500 before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1006/ Odds: 81(Y):19(N) by coin, 78(Y):22(N) by weight. Total bet: 12.5979 BTC. Current weight: 72,548.	[12:13]
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xmj	http://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/konjunktur/nachrichten/neue-bip-berechnung-guten-morgen-wir-sind-reicher-seite-all/10329916-all.html	[12:15]
assbot	Neue BIP-Berechnung: Guten Morgen, wir sind reicher! - Konjunktur - Politik - Handelsblatt	[12:15]
mircea_popescu	looking into the source page... lol.	[12:15]
xmj	this is how you make yourself EUR 80 bln richer, overnight: just include black market transactions in government GDP.	[12:15]
RagnarDanneskjol	rough looking chicks in there	[12:15]
xmj	meh	[12:17]
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pankkake	https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/08/new_snowden_int.html	[12:51]
assbot	Schneier on Security: New Snowden Interview in Wired	[12:51]
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[]bot	Bet placed: 1.14323086 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin to drop under $500 before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1006/ Odds: 83(Y):17(N) by coin, 80(Y):20(N) by weight. Total bet: 14.13927827 BTC. Current weight: 72,380.	[14:45]
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chetty	Goooood Morning B-A	[14:56]
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RagnarDanneskjol	howdy	[15:00]
pankkake	!up drawingthesun	[15:00]
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pankkake	!up CoalPowerGorilla	[15:00]
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jurov	afternoon	[15:01]
jurov	almost every time i do something with hardware, there is blood	[15:01]
jurov	yuck	[15:01]
pankkake	:o never got to that point, though I often hurt	[15:02]
drawingthesun	Hey	[15:02]
RagnarDanneskjol	I'm on the other end, everytime I do something with software, there is blood and gnashing of teeth	[15:04]
jurov	literal blood?	[15:05]
RagnarDanneskjol	sometimes	[15:06]
RagnarDanneskjol	fists against monitor and such	[15:06]
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jurov	unless you still use CRTs you must be pretty feeble creatures	[15:09]
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RagnarDanneskjol	Yes, I still rock a CRT 2nd screen for nostalgia & to help accelerate global warming	[15:12]
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Duffer1	appendectomy	[15:23]
Duffer1	stomach is a basketball	[15:23]
Duffer1	it's good to be home	[15:23]
chetty	Duffer1, ouch, wb, get well	[15:25]
Duffer1	oh thanks chetty :)	[15:25]
chetty	!up wyrdmantis	[15:26]
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wyrdmantis	thanks chetty, i can voice myself now	[15:27]
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chetty	cool, grats wyrdmantis	[15:29]
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wyrdmantis	;;seen punkman	[15:34]
gribble	punkman was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 21 hours, 45 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: you wash some of your own btc, jerk some puppets, the muppets won't be able to resist	[15:34]
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wywialm	hi	[15:50]
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wyrdmantis	hi wywialm	[15:51]
wywialm	hi wyrdmantis	[15:52]
wyrdmantis	;;gettrust wyrdmantis	[15:53]
gribble	Currently authenticated from hostmask wyrdmantis!570281e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.2.129.230. Trust relationship from user wyrdmantis to user wyrdmantis: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=wyrdmantis&dest=wyrdmantis \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=wyrdmantis \| Rated since: Mon Aug 11 07:05:19 2014	[15:53]
pankkake	http://btctrading.wordpress.com/2014/08/14/short-term-update-genuine-crash-at-bitfinex-or-an-orchestrated-manipulation/	[15:57]
assbot	Short Term Update: genuine crash at bitfinex or an orchestrated manipulation? \| Bitcoin Trading Signals	[15:57]
wyrdmantis	so this bitcoin empire we must obey :)	[15:58]
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wyrdmantis	"I see manipulation" <<<--- seems legit	[16:01]
wyrdmantis	seems that i have to learn doing something useful for the WoT. I think what i know is not enough. I'm thinking to open a blog in Italian about my first steps in b-a, so people in italy can understand what is happening. Do you think it's a good idea?	[16:13]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1158 @ 0.00175135 = 2.0281 BTC [-] {7}	[16:22]
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chetty	blogs are always a good idea	[16:28]
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mircea_popescu	wyrdmantis well, maybe, but if them people don't speak english they'll have a hard time understanding.	[16:30]
mircea_popescu	Enky doesn't that look suspiciously like http://trilema.com/2012/icbitse-the-bucket-shop/ ?	[16:31]
assbot	Icbit.se, the bucket shop pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[16:31]
wyrdmantis	mircea_popescu yeah it will be just a translation service	[16:33]
mircea_popescu	Io parlo italiano :)	[16:34]
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wyrdmantis	mircea_popescu pizza spaghetti & mandolino!	[16:40]
mircea_popescu	no, en serio.	[16:41]
wyrdmantis	ottimo allora mi capisci :)	[16:42]
mircea_popescu	si.	[16:42]
wyrdmantis	ma non abiti in italia, vero?	[16:43]
mircea_popescu	ora in argentina.	[16:43]
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*	assbot gives voice to mircea_popescu	[23:43]
BingoBoingo	%t	[23:44]
atcbot	[X-BT] Bid: 188 Ask: 221 Last Price: 188 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A	[23:44]
*	ColinT has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)	[23:44]
mircea_popescu	0 volume ? fo reals ?	[23:45]
BingoBoingo	%d	[23:45]
atcbot	[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 187555.13 in 1982 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -90.01	[23:46]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Looks like the not unknown post dump standoff	[23:46]
mircea_popescu	so retarded lol	[23:46]
mircea_popescu	;;bc,diff	[23:47]
gribble	Error: "bc,diff" is not a valid command.	[23:47]
mircea_popescu	;;bc,stats	[23:48]
gribble	Current Blocks: 315642 \| Current Difficulty: 1.9729645940577133E10 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 316511 \| Next Difficulty In: 869 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 22 hours, 30 minutes, and 0 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 23610240555.8 \| Estimated Percent Change: 19.66885	[23:48]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 25/19729645940.577133 * 1878190.93	[23:48]
gribble	0.00237990957321	[23:48]
mircea_popescu	is it 512 atcs per block ?	[23:49]
mircea_popescu	;;calc 0.00237990957321 / 512	[23:49]
gribble	4.64826088518e-06	[23:49]
BingoBoingo	Yeah 512 per block	[23:49]
BingoBoingo	%t	[23:49]
atcbot	[X-BT] Bid: 188 Ask: 221 Last Price: 188 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A	[23:49]
*	diana_coman has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)	[23:49]
BingoBoingo	%d	[23:49]
atcbot	[ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 187555.13 in 1982 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -90.01	[23:49]
BingoBoingo	%p	[23:49]
atcbot	[CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.09 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 1613.00 GH/s	[23:49]
mircea_popescu	so 0.00000464 or 464 satoshi per atc at current diff, 46 satoshi per atc at next diff.	[23:50]
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BingoBoingo	It's amazing really that the stuff trades in the middle of those two extremes	[23:51]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[23:51]
pete_dushenski	http://www.theonion.com/articles/tips-for-being-an-unarmed-black-teen,36697/	[23:51]
BingoBoingo	https://twitter.com/rabite/status/500017905619443712	[23:51]
assbot	Tips For Being An Unarmed Black Teen \| The Onion - America's Finest News Source	[23:51]
assbot	A travel agent just gave me back my money and said that he didnt feel comfortable with booking my flight. No federal interference here!	[23:51]
pete_dushenski	"Try to see it from a police officer’s point of view: You may be unarmed, but you’re also black"	[23:52]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo tell him it's probably someone who had invested in his failed keiser-led kickstarter clone thing.	[23:53]
mircea_popescu	"you're a famous failure nao, bitch. deal with it."	[23:53]
BingoBoingo	lol, I'll let him wonder. Some lessons sting more with a few years of hindsight.	[23:54]
mircea_popescu	good to have for when he finally capitulates, 2020 or w/e.	[23:55]
mircea_popescu	ima just go !s "you're a famous failure nao, bitch. deal with it." and all the greybeards will chuckle privately.	[23:55]
BingoBoingo	!b 5	[23:56]
assbot	Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0KQA9ET.txt )	[23:56]
mircea_popescu	que "i'm such a jerk, and history coming to bite one in the ass is so unfair, and what sort of usg democracy is this where responsibility exists!!1"	[23:57]
mircea_popescu	they were promised irresponsibility without consequence and a shot at megaupside, DANG IT!!!!	[23:57]
mircea_popescu	free lottery tickets and billion dolar jackpots, that's what the american dream is all about!	[23:58]
*	diana_coman (~Diana@2.29.38.173) has joined #bitcoin-assets	[23:58]

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