Forum logs for 08 Sep 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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decimation think what you will about Jaweh, but don't say he didn't warn people what was going to happen: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Samuel+8%3A10-20&version=KJV [00:03]
assbot 1 Samuel 8:10-20 KJV - And Samuel told all the words of the - Bible Gateway [00:03]
asciilifeform it is particularly entertaining, at least in limited dose, to read people whine about usg - the same people in whose heads it lives, of whom it is made in fact. [00:03]
xmj ^ [00:04]
decimation asciilifeform: which is pretty much every adult who lives within 30 miles of you :) [00:04]
xmj decimation: 300 miles, too [00:04]
chetty kinda waste of effort to hate an idea [00:04]
xmj even 500miles, if you'd walk that far [00:04]
asciilifeform the presumption of a totalitarian 'we' - that will 'fix things' once 'take control' - jumps straight out of the page. [00:04]
asciilifeform xmj: complicated. imagine you happened to live near a fission reactor. [00:05]
decimation I suspect it's particularly obvious to anyone who lived in the ussr [00:05]
chetty the 'we' seems to be a bunch of very annoying bureaucrats [00:05]
asciilifeform xmj: suppose you are, e.g, an amish, and haven't much use for electric mains personally [00:05]
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asciilifeform xmj: what kind of fate do you wish for the reactor [00:06]
asciilifeform first thing you might like is to move - far away [00:06]
asciilifeform but what if for some reason you haven't been able to do this. [00:06]
chetty better move fast, the fences are going up [00:06]
asciilifeform chetty: the best fences - invisible. and have been 'up' for very long time. [00:07]
chetty yeah but lately they been adding some not so invisible barbed wire [00:08]
decimation asciilifeform: perhaps if you can't move away from the reactor, your next 'defense' is to understand how it works so that you can predict 'danger' [00:08]
asciilifeform what good it does you to 'predict danger' if you can't pick up & go? [00:08]
asciilifeform (if you could - why would you wait until it pops) [00:08]
chetty asciilifeform, easy answer, the couch tv and potato chips are there [00:09]
asciilifeform -- couch tv and potato chips are there << or the chalkboard and cyclotron. [00:09]
decimation asciilifeform: in other words, invent an alternative reactor that doesn't suck? [00:10]
chetty well at least thats a respectable excuse [00:10]
asciilifeform this is why the death of ussr is a global calamity - even folks like jurov and mircea_popescu, who saw the underside of the colonial boot, might see the argument as to how [00:11]
asciilifeform no pepsi-chalkboard, no pepsi-cyclotron to the moribund 'coke.' [00:11]
decimation asciilifeform: indeed, and this is why you are making 'cardano' within a 30 minute drive of fort meade :) [00:12]
chetty yeah at least 2 lions can argue over the carcass and leave the mice alone. One lion gets greedy [00:12]
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jurov ussr was definite exercise in proving eugenics futile... dunno how it could have not fallen [00:12]
xmj huh? [00:13]
asciilifeform decimation: world's laziest bureaucrats. perhaps they're out of duffel bags and garotte wire. [00:13]
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asciilifeform decimation: that - or they're long under the control of soviet saboteurs like 'stirrup finder' [00:13]
xmj asciilifeform: you're talking about the old dichotomy. exit or voice. [00:13]
decimation asciilifeform: I doubt that there is anyone in usg that is empowered to use garotte wire within the us [00:13]
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xmj asciilifeform: ribbonfarm.com had a good article on that one [00:14]
xmj http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2014/09/03/how-to-fall-off-the-wagon/ [00:14]
xmj about who's likely to use which way of changing things. [00:14]
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asciilifeform !s stirrup finder [00:14]
decimation whatever one says about nsa, it's clear that the 'we protect computers & networks' section hasn't been doing much for the past 30 years [00:14]
decimation even by usg standards [00:15]
asciilifeform arsebot dead ? [00:15]
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chetty decimation, sure they do stuff, just like the irs, they surf for porn [00:16]
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assbot How to Fall Off the Wagon [00:18]
assbot 1 results for 'stirrup finder' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=stirrup+finder [00:18]
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asciilifeform doubt that there is anyone in usg that is empowered to use garotte << apparently they prefer limpet mines on auto and plane fuel tanks. perhaps they're also short on these ? [00:18]
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decimation asciilifeform: I guess I would need evidence to show that the usg acted in such a purposeful fashion. http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2009/05/futarchy-considered-retarded.html << "The pattern here is not hard to find. USG craves mechanical processes for decision-making. If a decision is made mechanically, no one is responsible for any bad results. Since mechanical management tends to produce bad results, this ass- [00:21]
decimation covering imperative perpetuates itself. Of course, everyone in USG wants to be "in the loop" on everything - even the disasters. Better to be in on a fiasco than twiddling your thumbs around a success. Who needs responsibility?" [00:21]
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asciilifeform apparatus like usg (or soviet structure, etc.) fragments into 'decay daughters' of fiefdoms - and even individuals - who can act with volition, as original animal could not. [00:22]
asciilifeform no senator need sign off on the limpet [00:22]
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asciilifeform e.g. dzhokhar dudayev before his final gig was... - a soviet air force general. [00:24]
decimation right but then it is required for everyone 'up the chain' to be 'officially ignorant' of the lower-echelon's actions [00:24]
chetty asciilifeform, "fiefdoms", an accurate word for the current state, where doj/epa/nsa/etc vie for power [00:25]
asciilifeform 'fiefdoms' are a physically inescapable feature of any mega-state, because of 'dunbar's number' [00:25]
TheNewDeal so I know that the whole world cup succer did not work out well for bitbet, but what about giving a chance to some ncaa football bets? [00:25]
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chetty hmmm hhs got a big boost with Ocare, guess we shouldnt be surprised they have computer problems, get hacked and all that :P [00:27]
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TheNewDeal well I'm start one with a decent sized zeroconf. It's not 5btc but we'll see how far it goes [00:28]
decimation asciilifeform: The idea of 'rogue fiefdoms' does mesh with the blog I posed awhile ago on how a few individuals in the cia who were friendly with the press forced Nixon out of office - because he was threatening to clean the Augean stables [00:29]
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asciilifeform no bureaucrat ever planted a mine with own hands. [00:31]
decimation the usual method being to find some dupe/stoolie to do it for you? [00:32]
asciilifeform decimation: no - only the banal observation that if a mine appears, it was planted by someone other than a buraucrat - a man of volition [00:33]
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* asciilifeform was fond of nixon for so long as knew the story about him - because there must have been something fundamentally good about the man if his fellow leeches threw him under the bus. [00:36]
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decimation asciilifeform: that was the point of the blog: http://28sherman.blogspot.com/2014/08/unified-theory-on-watergate.html << "Despite Nixon's capture of the presidency, he learned where real power lay. In Haldeman's "Ends of Power", he writes ...by 1971 Nixon had realized he was virtually powerless to deal with the bureaucracy in every department of thegovernment... Civil servants, almost all liberal Democrats, would thumb their noses at [00:39]
decimation him. Washington insiders all acknowledge that the man who is still King in Washington has been dead for 32 years. Franklin D. Roosevelt's legacy lives on." [00:39]
assbot 28 Sherman: Unified Theory on Watergate [00:39]
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decimation assbot is sad. [00:47]
TheNewDeal porque [00:47]
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kakobrekla everything is down [01:03]
thestringpuller ;;ls [01:03]
gribble What do you think I am, a shell? [01:03]
thestringpuller except gribble... [01:03]
TheNewDeal ;;nethash [01:03]
gribble 223925011.881 [01:03]
TheNewDeal gribble me timbers [01:03]
thestringpuller !l m s.mpoe [01:04]
decimation ;;ident assbot [01:05]
gribble Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead. [01:05]
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kakobrekla network is semi down [01:10]
kakobrekla id -m for the while but then ill have to listen to mp [01:10]
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mircea_popescu xmj: they have that elaborated there too <<, they being a lone guy who flatters himself that he's going to "continue" things he scarcely understands, from a purely theoretical perspective. because this works now, and the ample supply of tims and culwicks is somehow not self-defeating. [01:54]
kakobrekla TheNewDeal you can do that yourself. [01:54]
mircea_popescu or for that matter self-deafening [01:54]
xmj thank god there's a lone guy judging another lone guy. [01:56]
mircea_popescu nice, but relativism doth not work merely because it would be convenient for it to. [01:56]
Duffer1 so here's a first for me, i got advertising dust today https://blockchain.info/address/1LaxoTrQy51LnB289VmoSAgN6J6UrJbfL9 [01:56]
assbot Bitcoin Address 1LaxoTrQy51LnB289VmoSAgN6J6UrJbfL9 [01:56]
mircea_popescu wd. [01:56]
kakobrekla i didnt get shit :( [01:57]
mircea_popescu your advertising is weak! [01:57]
mircea_popescu decimation samuel was in all likeliness a pre biblical wiseguy. so technically jahweh just copy-pasted. [01:58]
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Duffer1 looks like everyone they sent to is in WoT, but i don't see some of the bigger names from this chan [01:58]
mircea_popescu chetty: well at least thats a respectable excuse << every excuse is respectable to the one guy whose respect matters you know. [02:00]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform: this is why the death of ussr is a global calamity - even folks like jurov and mircea_popescu, who saw the underside of the colonial boot, might see the argument as to how << i certainly do not see such. [02:02]
mircea_popescu it was a very enjoyable experience to piss in the chalice in byzantium, looking forward to pissing i nthe chalice in rome. [02:02]
jurov stan apparently thinks ussr kept tejh us in check. now they're gone, usg destroys everything [02:02]
mircea_popescu jurov: ussr was definite exercise in proving eugenics futile... dunno how it could have not fallen << tell more ? [02:03]
mircea_popescu jurov well they kept the us mentally in check, so to speak. they're muppets in the fields of kansas, the best they can do is "we're better than x", very limited meanness. once no more x, there isn't a good reason not to patriot act all over the bed. i suppose that's the strongest reading of that. [02:04]
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jurov dunno, i just think the ussr eugenics program was overdone [02:04]
mircea_popescu i didn't think they had one. how did it go ? [02:04]
mircea_popescu xmj: asciilifeform: you're talking about the old dichotomy. exit or voice. << how the fuck are the 70s old! [02:05]
jurov what else to call their management of the population? [02:06]
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mircea_popescu i dunno, i don't think it's a settled matter [02:07]
xmj ? [02:07]
xmj exit or voice has been around forever. [02:07]
mircea_popescu which is why i'm kinda curious of what you mean, cuz it doesn't seem much represented. [02:07]
mircea_popescu xmj it's hirschman's idea, and it has been around since forever in the sense of the 70s. [02:07]
xmj that doesn't matter [02:08]
mircea_popescu right. [02:08]
xmj he may have been the one to put a name on it, the idea behind it has existed for millennia [02:08]
xmj ^ what i mean [02:08]
mircea_popescu a dubious assertion, but lettuce let it lay. [02:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6000 @ 0.00079684 = 4.781 BTC [+] [02:09]
mircea_popescu whoa back to 8 [02:11]
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mircea_popescu dude the volatility in this thing [02:11]
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aabtc aegis agamemnon23 AndrewJackson Anduck Apocalyptic arij artifexd asciilifeform assbot atcbot Azelphur [02:11]
ben_vulpes ;;ticker [02:14]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 479.01, Best ask: 479.09, Bid-ask spread: 0.08000, Last trade: 479.1, 24 hour volume: 2198.42967875, 24 hour low: 477.25, 24 hour high: 483.0, 24 hour vwap: 480.399542153 [02:14]
mircea_popescu "The 40th anniversary of President Richard Nixon's resignation just passed. The myths around the Watergate scandal are many and deep. Like all bits of American history, there is the official version and the truth. We will never know the truth, but the official version looks shakier with each year. The reason for pushing him out looks quaint as our elected and unelected elite commit far more heinous acts and far greater [02:18]
mircea_popescu abuses of power. Members of his team bugged an office? Heh, how simple. Bug the world like Bush-Obama. I have always been intrigued by Nixon's rise, fall and return like a rock star set to politics, and this is my current take on a unified theory of Watergate." [02:18]
mircea_popescu this is such nonsense. let's write it about ted bundy now. [02:18]
mircea_popescu "The 40th anniversary of Ted Bundy's conviction just passed. The myths (not really, but we can call things anything, right?) around the crimes and their prosecution are many and deep (no reference required here). Like all bits of American (spurious, this is true of all history, but hey, gotta pander to the reader's "sentiment") history, there is the official version and the truth. We will never know the truth (delibera [02:21]
mircea_popescu tely so), but the official version looks shakier with each year (by simple working of the poor quality of this kind of idiot's memory). The reason for pushing him out looks quaint as that guy in Belgium kept a girl in a basement or whatever, and that's how things work now, by comparison and recourse to derpmemory. Because we're living in fucking post-literate society among barbarians. Here is my very important fanon on [02:21]
mircea_popescu the topic please read it and care because I have nothing else." [02:21]
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BingoBoingo %t [02:31]
atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 205 Ask: 221 Last Price: 221 24h-Vol: 9k High: 221 Low: 221 VWAP: 221 [02:31]
BingoBoingo %v [02:31]
atcbot [X-BT VWAP] Bid: 205 Ask: 221 Last Price: 221 30d-Vol: 1.56M 30d-High: 250 30d-Low: 170 30d-VWAP: 195 [02:31]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28750 @ 0.00079702 = 22.9143 BTC [+] {2} [02:35]
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BingoBoingo !t m s.mpoe [02:41]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00059659 / 0.00062126 / 0.00079764 (859525 shares, 533.99 BTC), 7D: 0.00059659 / 0.00075371 / 0.00086027 (3582668 shares, 2,700.31 BTC), 30D: 0.00059659 / 0.00073704 / 0.00088145 (16887234 shares, 12,446.73 BTC) [02:42]
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BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/guba1a/status/508685213342662656/photo/1 [02:46]
assbot Gibraltar XI's occupations today against Poland... http://t.co/xevwyPvHvZ [02:46]
[]bot Bet placed: 1.75 BTC for No on "Euro sinks against USD" http://bitbet.us/bet/1041/ Odds: 1(Y):99(N) by coin, 1(Y):99(N) by weight. Total bet: 1.85 BTC. Current weight: 99,843. [02:46]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla ^ :D [02:49]
kakobrekla 3 months is kinda short aint it [02:51]
mircea_popescu the skirt is kinda short an' the stockings kinda red, but it'll have to do [02:51]
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ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [02:55]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 476.53, Best ask: 477.37, Bid-ask spread: 0.84000, Last trade: 477.4, 24 hour volume: 2853.01037943, 24 hour low: 474.95, 24 hour high: 483.0, 24 hour vwap: 479.288412986 [02:55]
ThickAsThieves now mpoe goes up, my theory is crap [02:55]
ThickAsThieves bot owner is trolling me [02:56]
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BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: Maybe USG got an MPEx account just to fuck with you? [02:57]
mircea_popescu or maybe a battle's been raging for a few weeks [02:57]
BingoBoingo Eh, this MPOE volatility has been happening for what? since it broke 100000 satoshis? [02:58]
BingoBoingo It's just faster now [02:59]
ThickAsThieves since it broke 7 i think [02:59]
mircea_popescu something like that [02:59]
BingoBoingo For all we know the USG might take a break from shorting BTC and send the Euro under the dollar tomorrow by telling Germany it lost their gold. [03:00]
BingoBoingo For that announcement I imagine Obama wearning Mr. T's gold chains [03:01]
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ThickAsThieves GS has that under control [03:03]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo amusingly that'd prolly strengthen the euro [03:03]
ThickAsThieves they gave a roadmap for EURUSD parity, and now it's happening [03:03]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Not at first. First it strengthens the Dinar, or whatever the fuck ISIS uses. Probably fucking Dogecoin. [03:04]
ThickAsThieves which i guess means they wanna buy EUR? [03:04]
BingoBoingo ISIS would use fucking Dogecoin. [03:04]
ThickAsThieves or maybe they just wanna vacation in EUR more [03:04]
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BingoBoingo https://duckduckgo.com/?q=how+to+smuggle+dollars&t=canonical [03:05]
assbot how to smuggle dollars at DuckDuckGo [03:05]
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BingoBoingo First result: https://www.ice.gov/bulk-cash-smuggling-center/faq/ [03:07]
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artifexd TIL my wife is guilty of "bulk cash smuggling". I wonder if there is a reward. [03:09]
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mircea_popescu How common is bulk cash smuggling? [03:13]
mircea_popescu Every year, hundreds of people try to smuggle more than $10,000 across U.S. borders in order to avoid reporting requirements. In fiscal year 2013 alone, ICE HSI special agents arrested over 520 individuals who were attempting to smuggle currency and seized more than $59 million in bulk currency or monetary instruments. [03:13]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 59*10**6 / 520 [03:13]
gribble 113461.538462 [03:13]
mircea_popescu this seems shockingly ineffectual. [03:13]
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cazalla mircea_popescu, http://www.bitcoinprivilege.com/cazalla_forum_posts.html past weeks posts [03:16]
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mircea_popescu danke. [03:16]
BingoBoingo I'm pretty sure this is why the ruskies used stamps [03:16]
mircea_popescu i mean... "bitcoin, 100x larger than all the ice results in 2013" ? [03:16]
mircea_popescu "How does bulk cash smuggling affect our country? [03:17]
mircea_popescu Bulk cash smuggling damages our economy by removing billions of dollars from the commerce of the United States. " [03:17]
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mircea_popescu ahem. 59 mn != billions. [03:17]
mircea_popescu they must be thinking of the billion and a half in bills the contractors took over to the taliban in iraq ? [03:17]
BingoBoingo Mebbe [03:19]
BingoBoingo I wonder if there is a dollar bill version of fast and furious, where Instead of ATF and guns the treasury just dumped a bunch of money on the cartels [03:19]
mircea_popescu yeah, actually. [03:20]
kakobrekla or the success rate is lower than 5.9% [03:20]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.18141999 = 0.9071 BTC [+] {4} [03:22]
BingoBoingo http://edition.cnn.com/2014/09/06/world/americas/9-year-old-joyrides-in-city-bus/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 [03:25]
assbot Boy, 9, goes joy riding in city bus, police say - CNN.com [03:25]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla how would they know ? [03:26]
kakobrekla not the scope of this discussion! [03:27]
mircea_popescu decimation btw, here's a curio : while darwin published in 1956, there's a little book of anon fiction published in 1844, "Vestiges of the Natural History of Creation" [03:28]
mircea_popescu pretty much the same fare. [03:28]
BingoBoingo I've always assumed the metallic ink on higher denomination US bills was to create X-ray shadows [03:29]
mircea_popescu lol kako arguing liek an ancient lawyer nao :D [03:30]
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cazalla !s peernova [03:50]
assbot 0 results for 'peernova' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=peernova [03:50]
cazalla "Digital CC Limited (trading as digitalBTC)(ASX: DCC) (the Company or digitalBTC) is pleased to announce it has leased ~11% of its first generation mining capacity to PeerNova Inc., for an upfront payment of US$460,000." [03:50]
cazalla first time i've heard of this peernova mob [03:50]
mircea_popescu "digital cc limited" is not exactly famous either. [03:51]
cazalla i only follow it because they're au based [03:52]
mircea_popescu im pretty sure that logo we've lolled at beofre tho [03:52]
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cazalla peernova or digital btc? [03:53]
cazalla or both [03:53]
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mircea_popescu http://peernova.com/product/petaone-rack/ << so wait... these people both make miners and pay 450k to rent miners ? [03:54]
assbot PetaOne Rack – PeerNova [03:54]
mircea_popescu this is starting to sound a whole lot like usagi on steroids. [03:54]
mircea_popescu "BitVest Digital Mining Corp. selected PeerNova as its strategic hardware supplier after an extensive review process. PeerNova's PetaOne(TM) enterprise class bitcoin mining systems offer the best combination of power, efficiency and cost for BitVest's planned large scale deployment." [03:55]
mircea_popescu da fuck lol. what's "bitvest" [03:55]
mircea_popescu http://www.bitvest.co/ << extensive review process people. [03:56]
assbot bitvest.co | Cryptocurrency Investments Strategies Made Simple [03:56]
cazalla not heard of that one either [03:56]
mircea_popescu domain Registered On December 09, 2013 [03:57]
mircea_popescu "PeerNova is leading the innovation in peer to peer applications and platforms for the digital currency and e-commerce markets. Our expertise is in building and deploying world class, high performance hardware and software solutions at the lowest OpEx and CapEx." [03:57]
cazalla To schedule a cryptocurrency investment consultation, please email us at info@bitvest.co - sounds good [03:57]
mircea_popescu meanwhile domain was born this april. [03:58]
mircea_popescu listen cazalla i would say at this point you've found an internet scamring. [03:58]
danielpbarron mircea_popescu, no report this week [03:58]
cazalla well, the guy behind digital BTC got done here by the ACCC for mobile games, ringtones a few years back [03:58]
mircea_popescu "DigitalBTC has technically been listed on the ASX since its ‘reverse takeover’ and transformation of Macro Energy Limited back in March, but has pursued the extra legitimacy of its own listing since then, which required approval." [03:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10508 @ 0.00080107 = 8.4176 BTC [-] {2} [03:59]
mircea_popescu this being the halmark of penny stock fraud, the reverse takeover. [03:59]
mircea_popescu cazalla "got done" ? [04:00]
cazalla fined [04:00]
cazalla slap on the wrist type stuff from memory [04:00]
cazalla ;;ud got done [04:01]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=got%20done | 1: "Daves got done for stopping on a red route" 2: "I got done for that saxo, it cost me £3000" 3: "She got done by steve after the club". by oracle March 12, 2004. [04:01]
mircea_popescu it looks quite scummy on the face, but i personally can';t be arsed to look into it. if you had a blog and the inclination to research you could prolly publish a decent article [04:01]
cazalla i might just do that [04:02]
mircea_popescu there's absolutely no way someone who supposedly makes 1ph cabinets also wants to rent mining power. [04:03]
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mircea_popescu !up B007 [04:12]
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thestringpuller not sure if bond reference or leet speak... [04:17]
mircea_popescu i upped on the bond theory. [04:20]
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B007 bond rederence [04:25]
mircea_popescu lol hi. [04:27]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i just passed along your most recent naggum link to a group of ro kids to great benefit. you've contributed to the "propasirea culturala a neamului" [04:27]
B007 hi [04:29]
B007 I trolled here some months ago [04:30]
mircea_popescu was it fun ? [04:30]
B007 also I predicted mc 1000 btc bet :D [04:30]
B007 yes [04:30]
mircea_popescu mc what ? [04:31]
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B007 08-03-2014 02:09:00 mircea_popescu: you should bet 1000 on something on your site [04:34]
B007 8 days before you did [04:34]
mircea_popescu o.O [04:34]
mircea_popescu wd lol [04:35]
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mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol you wanna talk to a bunch of kinda derpy ro kids with some linux sysadmin experience ? [04:54]
RagnarDanneskjol oh yea. I can deal with mild derpidity. shoot em my way [04:58]
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RagnarDanneskjol or should I reach out to them [04:59]
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mircea_popescu ill intro. [04:59]
RagnarDanneskjol ok many tanks [05:00]
kakobrekla no planes? [05:00]
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mircea_popescu planes ? [05:02]
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kakobrekla boring with tanks only. [05:03]
mircea_popescu ol [05:04]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: naggum link << which ? [05:08]
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gribble 222050773.13 [05:23]
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ben_vulpes incidentally, it is shocking, outrageous but also very amusing to see just how copy-pasted the final days us is from the peak of romania. it's almost as if instead of the romanian idiots copying teh superior us businessmen, the reverse happened. << i'd love to hear more about this [05:30]
kakobrekla !s n6 [05:31]
assbot 15 results for 'n6' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=n6 [05:31]
n6 creepy [05:31]
kakobrekla seemed like a new face [05:32]
ben_vulpes ;;seen mike_c [05:34]
gribble mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 days, 5 hours, 3 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: the previous boss of argentina: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyoTwDfXZ6c [05:34]
mike_c hey [05:34]
asciilifeform http://imgur.com/a/ubbE6 [05:35]
assbot Fun and Joy in Washington, D.C. - Imgur [05:35]
asciilifeform ^ today. [05:35]
kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-09-2014#821347 [05:39]
assbot Logged on 07-09-2014 04:06:06; asciilifeform: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=LQKkpS3b [05:39]
kakobrekla strange, this predates it: http://dpaste.com/108JWBZ.txt [05:39]
asciilifeform that one - not mine [05:39]
kakobrekla mine [05:40]
asciilifeform aha. [05:40]
asciilifeform lots of effort for a fellow who 'doesn't care.' [05:40]
kakobrekla yup [05:40]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i certainly do not see such... piss in the chalice in byzantium... pissing i nthe chalice in rome << some of us might like a place to defect to (specifically defect, rather than gulag-break and run into taiga) [05:45]
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asciilifeform kakobrekla: strange << what's surprising? poor sod carries on and on, like broken record [05:45]
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kakobrekla strange? the follow up on the led and audio after not caring. [05:46]
kakobrekla as you already pointed out. [05:46]
asciilifeform he'll 'not care' to anybody who listens. [05:46]
kakobrekla lol [05:47]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform the one about the matrix flippin;'. [05:57]
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asciilifeform ahaha [05:57]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes yeah but so far not so sure how to organise it. [05:58]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you know, the defectors weren't all that happy generally. [05:59]
ben_vulpes what inspired the comment in the first place? [05:59]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: yes - who doesn't know this. [05:59]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes the thiel-buterin thing. [05:59]
asciilifeform i for one would still take it over alternative. [06:00]
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mircea_popescu http://overlays.gentoo.org/ [06:11]
mircea_popescu what the fuck did they do now. [06:11]
mircea_popescu these people. gentoo - each day a surprise. [06:11]
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* asciilifeform in his 10th year of gentoo now. [06:12]
mircea_popescu so what happened ot the overlays list ? [06:12]
asciilifeform wake up, diametric. him - too, i think. [06:12]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: probably cut wire. or caught fire. [06:13]
mircea_popescu aha. i thought website reorg [06:13]
asciilifeform http://gpo.zugaina.org/Overlays << mirror [06:14]
assbot Gentoo Portage Overlays - Overlays [06:14]
mircea_popescu aty [06:14]
justusranvier Gentoo makes me sad sometimes. [06:14]
* asciilifeform did not know mircea_popescu is aficionado of gentoo [06:15]
justusranvier Sucks in many way, yet I can no longer use traditional binary distros, and don't have time to go back to Linux From Scratch [06:15]
mircea_popescu i diddle them all and love none asciilifeform [06:15]
asciilifeform !up diametric [06:15]
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diametric i used to be a gentoo developer. [06:15]
diametric it went downhill after daniel robbins left to go to microsoft. [06:15]
mircea_popescu justusranvier actually some of the better pakcages compile clean and fast now [06:16]
mircea_popescu s/package/distro/ [06:16]
diametric people started making really bad decisions, specifically by making massive changes to portage that would break systems. [06:16]
justusranvier mircea_popescu: Yeah, I actually don't have many compilation/dependency problems any more, but it's not progressing very much as a distribution [06:17]
asciilifeform diametric: massive changes to portage that would break systems << aye. [06:17]
* asciilifeform wishes there was an alternative to gentoo, does not know of one [06:17]
diametric the closest i've come is archlinux. [06:17]
* asciilifeform still has not forgiven the x11 to xorg clusterfuck [06:17]
Apocalyptic ^ [06:17]
justusranvier I wanted them to cater more to developers, and make it even easier to dogfood your own packages [06:17]
Apocalyptic diametric, was about to say that [06:18]
diametric the AUR system provides PKGBUILD files were are similar to ebuilds. [06:18]
asciilifeform archlinux << not source-based ! [06:18]
justusranvier I want Gentoo to ditch source tarballs entirely in favor of Git. It should be easy for a user to patch the source code of any package they run and have Portage handle merging changes from upstream [06:18]
asciilifeform has 'ports system' but as afterthought [06:18]
mircea_popescu what i don't like is the poor crypto use. [06:18]
mircea_popescu take asciilifeform's "mirror". well, is it a mirror or a mitmor ? how do i know ? [06:19]
asciilifeform who, outside of openbsd, has good crypto-discipline ? [06:19]
mircea_popescu and even there... [06:19]
mircea_popescu so, yeah. [06:19]
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justusranvier There should be no portage overlays [06:19]
justusranvier Your Portage tree should be in Git. If you want KDE packages in your Portage tree, then add the KDE team's repo and merge their branch into yours [06:20]
mircea_popescu justusranvier and what else, a fixed point so you can overturn teh earth ? [06:20]
asciilifeform distro without crypto-discipline entirely - should be assumed to be encrusted with teledildonic strange, like a japanese public toilet. [06:20]
justusranvier mircea_popescu: That too [06:21]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform so how many peeps are running "linux because it's safe and gentoo because it's so and so" except they got it off drevil.repo [06:22]
asciilifeform probably quite a few. [06:22]
mircea_popescu https://ceata.org/ << for the lulz. [06:24]
assbot Fundaia Ceata — Ceata elibereaz artele i tehnologiile actuale [06:24]
mircea_popescu Richard Stallman la Cluj, în turul echipelor locale ale Fundației Ceata [06:24]
mircea_popescu Richard Stallman la Vâlcea, în turul echipelor locale ale Fundației Ceata [06:24]
mircea_popescu Richard Stallman la Chișinău, în turul echipelor locale ale Fundației Ceata [06:24]
thestringpuller !l m s.mpoe [06:24]
assbot Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00076791 BTC [-] [06:24]
thestringpuller dat m-po po [06:24]
mircea_popescu etc. richard stallman @booth 4, rinkiding central. [06:25]
asciilifeform did he carry out his traditional routine of attempting to speak local language ? [06:25]
mircea_popescu i have nfi. [06:27]
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punkman https://btc-e.com/exchange/btc_eur [06:29]
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punkman check that out [06:30]
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mircea_popescu no fucking wai it closed [06:33]
mircea_popescu punkman ok, what ? [06:33]
TheNewDeal wtf was going on there [06:34]
Apocalyptic mircea_popescu, some btc were sold for 3200 EUR each [06:34]
TheNewDeal low 360 high 3200 eur? [06:34]
mircea_popescu oh. hm. [06:34]
mircea_popescu Volume: 1788 BTC / 942115 EUR [06:35]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 942115/1788 [06:35]
gribble 526.909955257 [06:35]
mircea_popescu o.O [06:35]
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mircea_popescu anyway, this is all for me. see you all on the other side. [06:35]
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mircea_popescu i had never heard of this secure whatevs [15:40]
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ThickAsThieves i do think US education is a major culprit (just read the Mike OCD article) [16:08]
[]bot Bet placed: 3 BTC for Yes on "BTC Difficulty over 31Bn before October" http://bitbet.us/bet/1028/ Odds: 92(Y):8(N) by coin, 89(Y):11(N) by weight. Total bet: 79.00227226 BTC. Current weight: 31,634. [16:09]
ThickAsThieves recall our conversation about schools beating into our heads "You can be anything if you really want it, President of the US even!" [16:10]
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BingoBoingo !up CheckDavid [16:11]
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ThickAsThieves now we have piles of ads convincing 30somethings to attend University of Phoenix [16:11]
CheckDavid Thanks Azelphur [16:12]
CheckDavid But I guess its still not enough to voice? [16:12]
Azelphur guess not [16:12]
Azelphur ;;gettrust assbot checkdavid [16:12]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask CheckDavid!uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zpqgextiikcqxjxg. Trust relationship from user assbot to user checkdavid: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=checkdavid | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=checkdavid | Rated since: Mon Sep 8 08:31:15 2014 [16:12]
CheckDavid Such hassle this wot thing lol [16:13]
ThickAsThieves another interesting phenomenon is US media hammering the concept of "eat fatty foods, not carbs" [16:13]
RagnarDanneskjol CheckDavid - http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-assets-m/ [16:14]
assbot #bitcoin-assets +m pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [16:14]
ThickAsThieves started as diet fads like Atkins and Paleo, but now it just feels downright progandist [16:15]
ThickAsThieves propagandist* [16:15]
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chetty is that about carbs or gluten? asciilifeform [16:15]
RagnarDanneskjol well, there is something to the fatty propagandizing - brains are mostly fat [16:16]
ThickAsThieves i think it's more to do with consumer manipulation [16:17]
RagnarDanneskjol sure, that too [16:17]
ThickAsThieves https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_Ph1zvw_xE [16:19]
assbot Air Castle blown away on beach (Katamari edit) - YouTube [16:19]
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chetty I been curious for sure about the anti-gluten propagandising, havent heard the +fat much [16:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00077377 = 1.1993 BTC [-] {2} [16:20]
ThickAsThieves in my own estimation, the gluten thing is more of a phenomenon relating to health-enthusiasts fucking up their bodies and either exacerbating gluten intolerance, or misdiagnosing it as the problem, rather than the symptom [16:23]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves well, there are some advantages to fat over glucose. [16:24]
ThickAsThieves but i'm being a typical symbol-reading, word-menaing-guessing, god-worshipper in that [16:24]
mircea_popescu but it's not as simple as all that. [16:24]
ThickAsThieves (i dont worship god, just saying i'm wildly guessing) [16:24]
mircea_popescu nono, you said! [16:24]
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chetty perhaps its god by some other names? like money? or earth or [16:26]
BingoBoingo The gluten thing is just because some members of the species don't have genetic compatibility with this "agriculture" thing yet... [16:27]
RagnarDanneskjol http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-living/nutrition-and-healthy-eating/in-depth/fat/art-20045550 [16:27]
assbot Dietary fats: Know which types to choose - Mayo Clinic [16:27]
ThickAsThieves the media seem to make body weight the focus [16:29]
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ThickAsThieves which is of course, appropriate on the surface [16:29]
CheckDavid Thanks RagnarDanneskjol [16:29]
ThickAsThieves US is fat as hell n all [16:29]
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nubbins` exacerbating the gluten thing is the immense amount of refined sugars people consume in their bread/baked goods [16:31]
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nubbins` oh, you had three honey croissants for breakfast? no fucking wonder you feel like shit [16:31]
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chetty sweetened croissants should be illegal [16:31]
nubbins` "but they're so good" [16:32]
chetty ugh, I can not eat them, and they are the standard breakfast here :( [16:32]
BingoBoingo http://www.huhcorp.com/ [16:33]
assbot We do stuff. [16:33]
nubbins` i was reading an article recently about gluten actually [16:34]
nubbins` talked about these things called FODMAPS [16:34]
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nubbins` "Instead, as RCS reported last week, FODMAPS are a far more likely cause of the gastrointestinal problems attributed to gluten intolerance." [16:35]
nubbins` "Coincidentally, some of the largest dietary sources of FODMAPs — specifically bread products — are removed when adopting a gluten-free diet" [16:35]
nubbins` protip: Budweiser beer is the only major-label brand available in Canada that does not contain gluten [16:36]
chetty I can't believe anybody still listens to the food police [16:37]
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nubbins` i know several people who actually have celiac disease [16:37]
nubbins` if you don't have to ask "what brand of ketchup is this?" at the restaurant, you're not celiac [16:37]
chetty well thats different, its the nuts that dont have any actual reason .. [16:37]
nubbins` nod. there are so many [16:38]
nubbins` "i can't eat wheat" [16:38]
nubbins` bull fuckin shit [16:38]
nubbins` picking the croutons out of their salads [16:38]
chetty and then of course ask why celiac is much more common now than 50 years ago .. [16:38]
nubbins` shit modern diets, better detection? 8) [16:38]
nubbins` i kid [16:39]
chetty I saw a thing where they tested blood stored 50 years ago so its not better detection [16:39]
nubbins` lower standards for medical degrees ;D [16:40]
nubbins` honestly, i find it baffling the type of stuff people shove into their mouths [16:40]
nubbins` new roommate, younger fella. the only food he has in the house right now is pizza pops [16:40]
chetty I am NOT gonna ask wtf that is [16:40]
kakobrekla wait, no pizza tards? [16:41]
nubbins` oh, sorry, as i'm reading up on them, i realize it's canadian only [16:41]
nubbins` it's a pillsbury-brand pizza pocket [16:41]
nubbins` lotsa sodium benzoate, phenylalanine, all that good shit [16:41]
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nubbins` the older i get, the more confused i get about humans and their determination to poison their bodies and the world around them as rapidly as possible [16:42]
nubbins` what's wrong with us? [16:42]
BingoBoingo nubbins`: phenylalanine in its levorotary form is actually nutritionally essential [16:43]
chetty were are all born with original sin :P [16:43]
nubbins` i know, i kid ;D [16:43]
nubbins` aspartame: not a neurotoxin [16:43]
nubbins` chetty: i was raised catholic, no need to tell me ;D [16:43]
nubbins` http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FODMAP [16:43]
assbot FODMAP - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [16:43]
ThickAsThieves well people like smoking too [16:44]
ThickAsThieves which has yet to show much health benefit [16:44]
nubbins` HEH [16:44]
nubbins` srsly, read the first paragraph of that FODMAPS article [16:44]
xmj ThickAsThieves: there are -some- rare health benefits to smoking. [16:44]
nubbins` and tell me if a slice of fuckin bread is the problem these people are having [16:44]
ThickAsThieves smoking helps you poop [16:45]
ThickAsThieves it has that at least [16:45]
BingoBoingo smoking prevents parkinsons [16:45]
nubbins` tat +1 [16:45]
chetty I quit listening to the food police way back when they said grilled meat causes cancer [16:45]
xmj chetty: +++ [16:45]
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nubbins` was interested to know galactose was a FODMAP [16:46]
ThickAsThieves i'm interested to know something is called galactose [16:46]
nubbins` pascale gave herself lactose intolerance from binge cheese eating :/ [16:46]
ThickAsThieves best sugar name ever [16:46]
nubbins` inorite?!?! [16:46]
nubbins` it's where lactose comes from :0 [16:46]
nubbins` and galactus, destroyer of worlds [16:46]
nubbins` (batch) [16:46]
ThickAsThieves :) [16:47]
nubbins` *natch [16:47]
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nubbins` anyway, interesting shit [16:47]
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nubbins` she's taken to buying lactose-free cheese [16:47]
ThickAsThieves this conversation was so much more enjoyable without diablod3 [16:47]
nubbins` they mix in the enzymes that digest latose during the manufacturing process [16:47]
ThickAsThieves there's a local vegan cheesemaker here that isnt bad [16:48]
chetty manufacturing cheese .... that just sounds wrong [16:48]
ThickAsThieves http://sunrawise.com/ [16:49]
assbot Home - SunRAWise [16:49]
nubbins` "Since lactose occurs mostly in milk, in most mammals, the production of lactase gradually decreases with maturity due to a lack of constant consumption." [16:49]
nubbins` ^ fodder for the "humans weren't meant to eat dairy" crowd [16:49]
nubbins` of course we were 8) [16:50]
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gribble User 'smickles', with keyid EA62D7CEB2450C3F, fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6, registered on Mon Jun 20 15:24:35 2011, last authed on Mon Jun 9 16:01:44 2014. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=smickles . Currently not authenticated. [16:55]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/the-perfect-pitch/ this goes for asciilifeform RagnarDanneskjol jurov wao [16:57]
assbot The perfect pitch pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [16:57]
mircea_popescu and of course anyone who likes to read, but the four are actually involved :D [16:57]
nubbins` http://imgur.com/a/CmDUI [16:59]
assbot Dads at One Direction concerts - Imgur [16:59]
nubbins` the face of sadness [16:59]
nubbins` it seems like whenever i visit trilema in chrome incognito mode, it resets my credits cookie [17:01]
jurov smickles refuses to auth in chan - warning, it's an impostor! [17:01]
mircea_popescu odd. [17:01]
mircea_popescu nubbins` kinda what incognito does no ? [17:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00005483 = 0.5483 BTC [+] {3} [17:02]
nubbins` er well, i mean when i exit incognito mode and use a regular browser window again [17:02]
nubbins` i guess the incognito tab doesn't give up the existing cookie, site can't find it, sends one over... but i'm surprised that'd overwrite the existing cookie [17:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 10000 @ 0.00005488 = 0.5488 BTC [+] [17:03]
mircea_popescu i guess this is then a chrome bug actually. [17:04]
mircea_popescu it should session cookies or something [17:04]
nubbins` i'mma look into it further [17:04]
mircea_popescu there's probably some attack avenue against the incognito mode through this. [17:04]
nubbins` anything unusual about how trilema sets/fetches cookies? [17:05]
mircea_popescu not that i know of. [17:07]
mircea_popescu tis php. [17:07]
RagnarDanneskjol mircea_popescu - fascinating as always you human being!. think I'll need to read that twice at least and start learning some Rom [17:09]
mircea_popescu lol [17:10]
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nanotube jurov: if he authed, then left the channel, he gets unauthed. [17:13]
mircea_popescu nanotube meanwhile it turns out someone was impostoring [17:14]
mircea_popescu tried to claim the system dun work. [17:14]
jurov just pasted me fake gribble output and insisted "this is proof im authed" [17:15]
nubbins` heh [17:15]
nubbins` classic -otc trick ;( [17:15]
nubbins` scammers gonna scam [17:15]
penguirker New blog post: http://trilema.com/2014/the-perfect-pitch/ [17:15]
nubbins` ;;view 21372 [17:15]
gribble #21372 Sun Aug 31 23:42:26 2014 nubbins` SELL 1.0 'What is Bitcoin?' silkscreened art print @ 45 USD (18x24", 5-color silkscreen on white Cougar acid-free paper, limited edition of 50 (only 8 left), shipping week of August 31, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=756955.0) [17:15]
nubbins` ^ actually only 3 left now; hoping to get all outstanding packages mailed today [17:16]
mircea_popescu cool beanz. [17:16]
nanotube heh ic [17:17]
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nubbins` meantime, what sorta rates do your uni kids offer? i've been doing a bitta research myself, seems $1/poster (plus printing) is average for traditional postering crews in large cities [17:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29800 @ 0.00077245 = 23.019 BTC [-] {3} [17:19]
mircea_popescu i have no idea, ima ask teh person in charge. [17:20]
nubbins` kk [17:21]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 9725 @ 0.00005488 = 0.5337 BTC [+] [17:22]
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BingoBoingo http://trilema.com/2014/the-perfect-pitch/#footnote_25_56335 << Beautiful, very true [17:54]
assbot The perfect pitch pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [17:54]
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chetty http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-banks-muslims-20140907-story.html#page=1 [17:56]
assbot Bank clients of Middle Eastern descent want answers on closed accounts - LA Times [17:56]
mircea_popescu chetty o.i [17:57]
mircea_popescu it's becoming a sport by now huh [17:57]
chetty apparently [17:58]
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-assbot- You voiced yona_ for 30 minutes. [18:00]
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BingoBoingo I didn’t say that, did I ? << Amazing how saving something makes everyone think you favor it. [18:00]
mircea_popescu ;;google billy mumphrey was a simple country boy [18:01]
gribble Seinfeld Scripts - The Doodle: ; Billy Mumphrey | The Seinfeld Dictionary: ; B | The Seinfeld Dictionary: [18:01]
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mod6 %tslb [18:03]
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mircea_popescu that's a wonder. [18:04]
nubbins` i was walking through a parking lot last night and as i passed this tracksuit-wearing guy, he shouts "GO FUCK YOURSELF, YA SLUT" at his phone and then starts walking really closely behind me [18:04]
RagnarDanneskjol ahahaha [18:05]
nubbins` for like 2 blocks! [18:05]
mircea_popescu did it make you horny ? [18:06]
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nubbins` unfortunately no [18:26]
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ThickAsThieves https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pF7HxLCFMeY&feature=youtu.be&t=8s :09 [18:30]
assbot PayPal Voices - YouTube [18:30]
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ThickAsThieves "we can spend bitcoin with a tap" [18:31]
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ThickAsThieves "we have magic money" [18:31]
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Duffer1 if you play it backwards it says "kill your family" [18:34]
ThickAsThieves paypal be trollin [18:34]
kakobrekla and if you modulate it, you get "i am the great cornholio" [18:36]
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ThickAsThieves get your D.BPAY while you can, before PayPal announces buyout! [18:39]
nubbins` heh [18:40]
nubbins` the enunciation is a little bit weird around that part [18:41]
ThickAsThieves indeed [18:41]
ThickAsThieves but the page looks legit [18:41]
nubbins` yeah, i can't think of anything else it'd be either [18:41]
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mircea_popescu !t m d.bpay [18:47]
assbot Your actions are useless. [18:47]
mircea_popescu heh. [18:47]
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nubbins` ;;google we don't believe in anything [18:48]
gribble Kanye West & Jay Z (Ft. Frank Ocean) - No Church in the Wild ...: ; When Man Ceases to Worship God - The American Chesterton Society: ; Myth: Atheists Believe In Nothing: Don't Atheists Care About Anything?: [18:48]
nubbins` bah [18:48]
nubbins` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AEMiz6rcxc [18:49]
assbot The Big Lebowski - Parking / Nihilists scene - YouTube [18:49]
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nubbins` also: you can rent full movies on youtube now? wat? [18:53]
nubbins` https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgKhPObZeaw&src_vid=7AEMiz6rcxc&feature=iv&annotation_id=pfc%3A0 [18:53]
assbot The Big Lebowski - YouTube [18:53]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00077294 = 7.1497 BTC [+] [19:03]
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BingoBoingo ;;ticker [19:23]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 470.74, Best ask: 470.75, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 470.74, 24 hour volume: 10125.52697634, 24 hour low: 456.3, 24 hour high: 480.99, 24 hour vwap: 467.950837666 [19:23]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 820 @ 0.00062192 = 0.51 BTC [-] {8} [19:43]
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nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/more-needs-to-be-done-to-prevent-moose-collisions-fire-chief-1.2758634 [20:02]
assbot More needs to be done to prevent moose collisions: fire chief - Newfoundland & Labrador - CBC News [20:02]
nubbins` (graphic pic) [20:02]
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rithm ;;later tell mircea_popescu y u disturb my slumber [20:08]
gribble The operation succeeded. [20:08]
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punkman http://www.kxii.com/home/headlines/GreenDot-to-discontinue-Moneypak-due-to-scams--274190441.html [20:10]
punkman teh lulz [20:10]
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nubbins` !t h hif [20:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK:HIF] 1D: 0.00010290 / 0.0001029 / 0.00010290 (15 shares, 0.00154350 BTC), 7D: 0.00006400 / 8.524E-5 / 0.00010290 (1800 shares, 0.15343332 BTC), 30D: 0.00004757 / 6.809E-5 / 0.00010290 (16212 shares, 1.10386301 BTC) [20:22]
nubbins` punkman: do you want your poster rolled or flat-packed? [20:27]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25400 @ 0.00077239 = 19.6187 BTC [-] [20:44]
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thestringpuller nubbins`: what is the timeline on the shirts? [20:52]
nubbins` we were aiming for them to be in your hands within 3 weeks of payment, so ~09/20-ish [20:53]
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thestringpuller and the poster? [20:55]
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nubbins` shipping today/tomorrow [21:09]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.0007723 = 17.9946 BTC [-] {2} [21:13]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00077144 = 6.1329 BTC [-] [21:27]
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kakobrekla who is managing s.mg on havelock ? [21:38]
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nubbins` havelock is [21:44]
nubbins` tat gave it up back in feb [21:44]
nubbins` fun fact, it's actually running through a coinbr acct [21:44]
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thestringpuller havelock is rogue as shit [22:08]
thestringpuller lol [22:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12900 @ 0.00077118 = 9.9482 BTC [-] {2} [22:13]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6536 @ 0.00077112 = 5.04 BTC [-] [22:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00076889 = 3.5753 BTC [-] {2} [22:17]
nubbins` hey, at least their HIF expenses are right on par [22:21]
nubbins` income is off by orders of magnitude, but you can't have it all [22:22]
kakobrekla on par with what [22:24]
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xmj do you guys have an intro doc for working with gribble and assbot ? [22:26]
kakobrekla !help [22:26]
assbot http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots [22:26]
kakobrekla prolly needs some updating but most is true [22:26]
xmj thx [22:26]
xmj im trying to nag the guy behind bettingblocks.com to join us [22:27]
xmj and he'll need that howto :-) [22:27]
kakobrekla then you need http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [22:31]
assbot first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] [22:31]
xmj forwarded, thx [22:32]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28574 @ 0.0007726 = 22.0763 BTC [+] {2} [22:34]
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xmj !up Rangerk [22:41]
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Rangerk thx [22:41]
xmj there we go :-) [22:41]
xmj everyone, rangerk. rangerk, everyone. ;-) [22:42]
BingoBoingo Hello [22:42]
Rangerk Hello [22:42]
Rangerk :) [22:42]
Rangerk Betting Blocks ---> [22:42]
Rangerk goo.gl/7hDBxm Bet on the miners of future bitcoin blocks. [22:42]
xmj fluffypony: Rangerk would be the one behind bettingblocks.com [22:42]
fluffypony oh sweet [22:43]
fluffypony very cool [22:43]
Rangerk Already > 0.1 Btc on block #319777 :) [22:43]
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Rangerk betting closes in 4.5 hours [22:44]
Rangerk Feedback is very welcome. We just launched. [22:44]
Rangerk xmj -- tell me about bitcoin assets plz. [22:46]
kakobrekla ;;topic [22:47]
gribble http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com [22:47]
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xmj Rangerk: ben_vulpes introduced me to this one given similar interests [22:50]
Rangerk Seems mircea_popescu is active on your blog. :) [22:51]
Rangerk Oh, this is MPEX. [22:53]
Rangerk Duh. [22:53]
BingoBoingo ;;ticker --market all [23:00]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 469.79, vol: 14485.98789274 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 471.646, vol: 5877.9332 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 472.01, vol: 16021.46251536 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 475.247718, vol: 14510.01560000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 488.76711, vol: 41.88066936 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 482.55159, vol: 81.70229466 | Volume-weighted last average: 472.289189203 [23:00]
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BingoBoingo http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/8/6121363/reddit-is-a-failed-state [23:02]
assbot Reddit is a failed state | The Verge [23:02]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11321 @ 0.00076906 = 8.7065 BTC [-] {2} [23:04]
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mircea_popescu Rangerk hm ? [23:20]
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mircea_popescu rithm cuz what's the loan thing ? [23:21]
mircea_popescu teh lulz << quite. [23:21]
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kakobrekla !up Rangerk [23:24]
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punkman Rangerk, website was a bit unclear, if block ends up in Other, do I lose? [23:26]
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jurov If the miner hasn't been determined by the above methods, we roll the prize money over into a future race as a cherry bonus. [23:28]
jurov • What happens if the miner is known, but wasn't one of the betting options? [23:28]
jurov Same thing. We roll the prize money over into a future race as a cherry bonus. [23:28]
jurov punkman ^ [23:29]
mircea_popescu isn't this kind-of vulnerable to miner collusion ? [23:30]
mircea_popescu i mean what's the advantage to rolling this dice as opposed to roling a proper, provably fair dice ? [23:30]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26300 @ 0.00077015 = 20.2549 BTC [+] {2} [23:32]
mircea_popescu CEO Yishan Wong finally addressed the controversy on Saturday by releasing a remarkably clueless manifesto. Reddit, he wrote, is "not just a company running a website where one can post links and discuss them, but the government of a new type of community." So, then, what type of government is Reddit? It's the kind any reasonable person would want to overthrow [23:32]
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mircea_popescu ayup, pretty much lifted straight from mp pr. [23:32]
jurov lol how would the miners collude? if they could they already would... [23:33]
mircea_popescu course the verge is then taking it exactly the opposite way, but hey. [23:33]
punkman miner can bet after he finds the block, no? [23:34]
mircea_popescu jurov you realise this is purely declaratory ? i can publish blocks on any ip i want. [23:34]
jurov but it does not use IPs [23:34]
mircea_popescu so here, i found a block, you publish it and we split the pot. [23:34]
mircea_popescu that's collusion innit ? [23:34]
punkman why collude in this case [23:35]
jurov miner can sign the block with his signature [23:35]
mircea_popescu punkman the pot, i mean the betting pot. [23:35]
jurov it's not dependent on who publishes it [23:35]
mircea_popescu "here, sign this block i found" [23:35]
mircea_popescu "we split the pot" [23:35]
punkman mircea_popescu: yeah but why wouldn't the miner bet on himself [23:35]
punkman o never mind, got it [23:36]
mircea_popescu because the logical outcome is for all pool ops to contriburte some btc, all make the same bet on the same one guy [23:36]
mircea_popescu then give him the found blocks whoever finds them [23:36]
mircea_popescu but whether this attack is practical or not, or even theoretically feasible : [23:36]
mircea_popescu what is the advantage of a reimplementation of a dubious solution to a solved problem ? [23:36]
jurov if they can collude about mutually signing blocks, they can collude over much worse things [23:36]
mircea_popescu that's no defense. [23:37]
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jurov okay, but since operator is not affected it's not a worry for him [23:38]
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jurov like, the same can be said about bitbet's difficulty bets [23:39]
jurov and you don't give a fuck [23:39]
mircea_popescu how can the same be said ? [23:39]
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jurov miners can collude for difficulty bet to come out a certai way [23:40]
mircea_popescu but then the difficulty would actually have to be that. [23:40]
mircea_popescu there's a difference between purely declaratory statements and actually measurable objective reality. [23:40]
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jurov also, is there any miner to explain - is the signature part of work given to minions or it can be slapped on afterwards? [23:42]
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mircea_popescu !up xe4l [23:44]
-assbot- You voiced xe4l for 30 minutes. [23:44]
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jurov apparently the pool is assigned using newly mined coins' address [23:49]
jurov which tx is part of merkle root [23:49]
jurov and thus hardwired once block is found [23:49]
chetty https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BxBIDdkCIAA1MtV.jpg:large -Phoenix no less [23:49]
jurov they would have to collude to divert newly minted coins to specific address beforehand [23:50]
jurov and everyone would see that [23:51]
jurov Rangerk you have no comment? [23:51]
mircea_popescu jurov if you can merge-mine for different chains, you can equally well merge-mine for alternative root addresses. [23:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2948 @ 0.00055069 = 1.6234 BTC [-] {25} [23:53]
jurov i don't get this. changing "root" address will help how? [23:55]
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chetty http://govtslaves.info/mastercard-rolls-orwellian-national-id-card/ [23:55]
assbot MasterCard Rolls Out Orwellian National ID Card - [23:55]
jurov still we're at point some OCD miner notices he's getting from ghash.io work with root address destined for some other pool [23:56]
BingoBoingo !up Rangerk [23:56]
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mircea_popescu chetty lol is this the us dept solution to nigerian scammers ? [23:58]
jurov so, i assert it is not "purely declaratory" but actual work the miners have to chew on [23:58]
jurov but.. i'm not miner and maybe i;m mistaken. that there is none in this channel makes me a bit sad. [23:59]
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