Forum logs for 06 Mar 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

Mats_cd03	someone in this channel could write the book	[00:01]
Mats_cd03	whichever of you has been here the longest and is unemployed	[00:01]
deadweasel	ummm, there might be a few more requirements	[00:02]
deadweasel	mpoe-pr should do it along with all her other womanly duties.	[00:02]
Mats_cd03	sounds like a shit job	[00:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04299999 = 0.129 BTC [+]	[00:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 145 @ 0.00433449 = 0.6285 BTC [-] {8}	[00:03]
deadweasel	lol, affliate program: http://www.idiotsguidetobitcoin.com/	[00:03]
Mats_cd03	who wants to read forum comments by teenagers for hours as research	[00:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2055 @ 0.00421645 = 8.6648 BTC [-] {14}	[00:04]
deadweasel	definitely not this guy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183728.0	[00:04]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3358 @ 0.00082903 = 2.7839 BTC [+]	[00:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 320 @ 0.0042 = 1.344 BTC [-] {3}	[00:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3832 @ 0.00410031 = 15.7124 BTC [-] {12}	[00:06]
Mats_cd03	a topic-specific book would definitely be good though	[00:06]
Mats_cd03	i think the community needs it	[00:07]
Mats_cd03	something cohesive like "bitcoin personal security for dummies"	[00:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2048 @ 0.00401424 = 8.2212 BTC [-] {8}	[00:07]
deadweasel	oh man, this thing is dead to me already. i have the log. fuck it.	[00:07]
deadweasel	no time for bookmaking of anykind.	[00:08]
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Mats_cd03	id write it if making books was a profitable activity	[00:09]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 772 @ 0.00400015 = 3.0881 BTC [-] {7}	[00:12]
mircea_popescu	there is no such thing as security for dummies	[00:13]
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mircea_popescu	what's next, dating for the narcisistic and hygiene for the lazy ?	[00:13]
mike_c	BingoBoingo already wrote that.	[00:13]
mike_c	http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/pgpgpg-guide/	[00:13]
ozbot	PGP/GPG Guide \| Bingo Blog	[00:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 15000 @ 0.004 = 60 BTC [-]	[00:13]
mike_c	print it, bind it, become rich.	[00:14]
GNULinuxGuy	has there been some news about neobee recently or something?	[00:15]
mircea_popescu	notrly.	[00:15]
asciilifeform	a physicist (forget which) who took to writing 'general interest' books, was told by his publisher 'every equation you throw in will cut sales in half'	[00:16]
asciilifeform	(might've been penrose, now that i think about it)	[00:16]
GNULinuxGuy	buy op? ;)	[00:16]
mircea_popescu	unless you count stuff like http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-03-2014#539868	[00:16]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform so the first 1-200 are the hardest then	[00:16]
mircea_popescu	after that's smooth sailin'.	[00:17]
asciilifeform	ahaha	[00:17]
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BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: If the text in question was http://www.roadsolutions.ox.ac.uk/ I have it sitting on a shelf	[00:18]
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asciilifeform	yeah might've been that one	[00:18]
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BingoBoingo	It kept an adequate number of equations for a book with chapter titles like "Manifolds of n dimensions"	[00:21]
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asciilifeform	BingoBoingo: this tome will not be burying Landau, but it's an acceptable bait to whet an amateur's interest, i'd imagine.	[00:22]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: Probably. Is an interesting read.	[00:24]
asciilifeform	which one of you people spoke of reading landau in french? was it mp?	[00:24]
mircea_popescu	prolly.	[00:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59865 BTC [+]	[00:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.59885666 = 1.7966 BTC [+] {3}	[00:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.60899666 = 1.827 BTC [+] {3}	[00:32]
kakobrekla	https://static.pinboard.in/webstock_2014.htm	[00:33]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.00574989 = 0.1092 BTC [+] {3}	[00:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 61 @ 0.00399979 = 0.244 BTC [-] {2}	[00:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07699999 = 0.231 BTC [-]	[00:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 4 @ 0.08999999 = 0.36 BTC [+] {2}	[00:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 101 @ 0.00574996 = 0.5807 BTC [+] {4}	[00:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04299999 = 0.129 BTC [+]	[00:35]
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bitcoinpete	http://mashable.com/2014/03/05/snowden-phone/?utm_cid=mash-com-Tw-main-link	[00:35]
asciilifeform	kakobrekla: good intro.	[00:35]
ozbot	The 'Snowden Phone' Will Encrypt All Your Calls and Texts	[00:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 41 @ 0.00574999 = 0.2357 BTC [+] {3}	[00:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04299999 = 0.129 BTC [+]	[00:36]
bitcoinpete	Still Samsung, so how do they unroot?	[00:36]
asciilifeform	re: phone: zimmerman was 'lowered into pederasty'	[00:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00574999 = 0.1437 BTC [+]	[00:37]
asciilifeform	eventually i will deal with this subject in writing, unless mp takes up this chore in my place.	[00:37]
asciilifeform	lev termen was a true inventor	[00:39]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2642 @ 0.0008275 = 2.1863 BTC [-]	[00:39]
asciilifeform	no one alive today is even fit to suck his decomposed cocke	[00:39]
asciilifeform	at least, with regards to invention	[00:39]
bitcoinpete	cool	[00:42]
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asciilifeform	he's #2 on my list of folks who probably had the waveguide motor. (after the obvious candidate nick t.)	[00:49]
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bitcoinpete	http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/early-classical-revival-websites-do-not-a-bitcoin-bank-make/	[00:51]
ozbot	Early Classical Revival Websites Do Not A Bitcoin Bank Make \| When Bitcoin Met Pete	[00:51]
bitcoinpete	On the recent Flexcoin oopsie. He's a local kid, met him a few months back.	[00:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 106 @ 0.00441611 = 0.4681 BTC [-] {5}	[00:52]
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jborkl	Went to the bitcoin conference today, figured might as well since it is here at home	[00:54]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu, others: if you think that the enemy is foolish, and has no plan, this is a dangerous mistake: he is clever and knows the ancient chinese formula 'Yi yi zhi yi' (以夷治夷 ?) - 'control the barbarians using barbarians.'	[00:55]
jborkl	Don't worry, no one missed anything	[00:55]
*	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets	[07:06]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://log.bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com	[07:06]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014	[07:06]
mircea_popescu	sooo pirate named names huh.	[07:06]
Duffer1	vegas conference attendees as far as i saw /didn't read the whole thing though	[07:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.00553604 = 0.238 BTC [-] {6}	[07:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04279995 = 0.1284 BTC [+] {2}	[07:08]
benkay	some preferential treatment disclosed.	[07:08]
mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/486/james-gibson-aka-gigavps-to-be-named-as/	[07:08]
ozbot	BitBet - James Gibson aka gigavps to be named as Pirate ponzi scheme fraudulent beneficiary	[07:08]
benkay	hey mircea_popescu is Vandroidy still around?	[07:08]
mircea_popescu	that should be quite interesting.	[07:08]
mircea_popescu	benkay sort-of.	[07:08]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell jborkl shocking, i tell ya.	[07:09]
benkay	sort-of?	[07:09]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[07:09]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell gigavps how's it going scammer boy ?	[07:09]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[07:09]
BingoBoingo	lol	[07:09]
mircea_popescu	idiot.	[07:09]
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BingoBoingo	Just think, time machine and you could have killed BTCST in November 2011	[07:10]
mircea_popescu	you mean april.	[07:10]
BingoBoingo	Maybe even April 2011 for 500BTC	[07:10]
mircea_popescu	o 2011. heh.	[07:10]
mircea_popescu	you know i wasn't even there ;/	[07:10]
BingoBoingo	But then you'd miss Harnet	[07:10]
mircea_popescu	what do you want from me, i only showed up that summer	[07:10]
mircea_popescu	takes someone A FEW MONTHS to catch up and spread the roots you know ?	[07:11]
mircea_popescu	kinda how i ended up with "6 months". if it took me ~3...	[07:11]
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BingoBoingo	Oh, if only S.TimeMachine was a thing	[07:12]
mircea_popescu	anyway, BingoBoingo : if i HAD done that, for all the laurels and glory (which no noobs can be bothered to even know about, so... it doesn't help THEM) the "community" of fucktards would have actually fallen for a much bigger ponzi much later,	[07:12]
mircea_popescu	that i'd have been equally powerless to do anything about	[07:12]
BingoBoingo	Eh, much later ponzi might have taught more	[07:13]
mircea_popescu	because the scammer would have said "this time it's different", and the way the primate brain works that'd have been enough.	[07:13]
mircea_popescu	so... ironically it'd have been a lot worse for everyone.	[07:13]
BingoBoingo	These are the reasons I drink to consult my lizard brain	[07:13]
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mircea_popescu	heh	[07:13]
benkay	oh, there won't be any more ponzi's in bitcoin?	[07:13]
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mircea_popescu	benkay yes, there will be. just copumpkin won't be whitenighting them.	[07:14]
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mircea_popescu	which obviously i mean in a general manner. well meaning but naive geeks will know to defer that time	[07:14]
mircea_popescu	as they didn't previously.	[07:14]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39711 @ 0.00082727 = 32.8517 BTC [+]	[07:15]
benkay	if not last season's socks, a new seasons. what's the actual difference?	[07:16]
mircea_popescu	no, there's a difference.	[07:16]
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mircea_popescu	bitcoin is non inflationary. this makes early things dwarf late things in importance.	[07:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.11300001 = 0.226 BTC [-]	[07:17]
mircea_popescu	anyway, funny how this guy's brain works. so he gets summoned, and he responds. then he feigns to ignore further proceedings.	[07:17]
mircea_popescu	which, as you pointed out, is real fucking smart. and now he actually responds.	[07:17]
mircea_popescu	possibly worst legal strategy of the century award.	[07:18]
benkay	twitter 'strategy'	[07:18]
Duffer1	that and going it without representation	[07:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.11300001 = 0.226 BTC [-]	[07:18]
benkay	mircea_popescu would have you believe representation is for the weak of mind, Duffer1	[07:18]
Duffer1	and admitting to not reading the subpeona where it asks him to retain certain information..	[07:19]
mircea_popescu	benkay wait what ?!	[07:19]
mircea_popescu	o o nm i read it backwards. yes, it is. and yes, he is. so...	[07:19]
mircea_popescu	ahahahaah o jesus god, "do you know reeses_ name ?" "art. a-r-t" "and last name ?" "i have no idea"	[07:20]
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mircea_popescu	"and do you watch seinfeld ?" "yes i do!" "do you understand anything ?" "well as much as anyone on the forum ever understands of what's going on before their eyes	[07:20]
mircea_popescu	"	[07:21]
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BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: It took the SEC dude to throw out Giga's last name	[07:21]
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mircea_popescu	what was it, "llc" ?	[07:21]
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mircea_popescu	hay folks my name is james llc, for srs. let's do some business which then i'll pretend is covered by the company named after me.	[07:22]
BingoBoingo	lol	[07:22]
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benkay	didja get to "business cognition"?	[07:22]
mircea_popescu	because that is totally how limited liability works, you hafta not disclose it and misrepresent it to be shielded.	[07:23]
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mircea_popescu	benkay i'm not reading that shit, just got some parts sent over	[07:23]
mircea_popescu	why, is it that good ?	[07:23]
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benkay	it's what he owes his father or uncle some money for	[07:24]
benkay	http://www.linkedin.com/company/business-cognition	[07:24]
ozbot	Business Cognition \| LinkedIn	[07:24]
benkay	resolving to http://www.buscog.com/	[07:24]
mircea_popescu	heh.	[07:24]
mircea_popescu	you know it makes you wonder aboput the united states.	[07:24]
mircea_popescu	in that you know, twentysomethings end up in troubkel all over the world, by virtue of being kids	[07:24]
mircea_popescu	but they customarily hide their stupidity from family and esp senior male relatives	[07:25]
mircea_popescu	in the us tho, it's backwards, they do it as a joint venture. so are there no males in that country over the mental age of ~17 or what the fuck ?	[07:25]
mircea_popescu	i mean i used to think it's only the case for poor black people, lil wayne and whatnot. then i thought it's only the case for poor people generally. now i'm starting to think its simply what the murican male is. the us culture, if you will.	[07:26]
BingoBoingo	Of the two parts of the Pirate at 40 shit, part one is definitely the lulzier one	[07:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 700 @ 0.0001865 = 0.1306 BTC [-]	[07:26]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo or whoever feels like it : why not make a curated version on yer blogs ?	[07:27]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: It is too old for me to provide solid context.	[07:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.004041 = 0.101 BTC [-]	[07:27]
mircea_popescu	(the hidden benefit here is this : through curating it you expose your unknowledge to scrutiny, ie, if you cut out something that turns out to have been important you get to learn it was, and so fix your head)	[07:28]
benkay	i've published some bits.	[07:28]
BingoBoingo	I really haven't found unimportant bits yet.	[07:28]
mircea_popescu	benkay ya but it has to be exhaustive for the thing to work, otherwise the narcissist self always cops out to "Well it was just some bits". and besides, weren't you coding ?	[07:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.0428 = 0.2568 BTC [+]	[07:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.004041 = 0.2425 BTC [-]	[07:28]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo well then that's also illustrative :D	[07:29]
benkay	should be yeah	[07:29]
BingoBoingo	There's stupid from both Pirate and the SEC stooge	[07:29]
BingoBoingo	Eastern District of Texas is a BTC no mans land	[07:30]
chetty	hmm I wonder, the SEC seems to be trying to imply that BigOne and #2 were the same person, wonder if they have somethiing there? If either one actually existed of course	[07:30]
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benkay	there's a pretty hilarious interchange where Shavers says something retarded and the stooge asks "you're getting a job at support dot com, right?"	[07:30]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 22 @ 0.0055 = 0.121 BTC	[07:31]
joecool	benkay: when i saw that i remembered noted other OTC scammer aethero works at support.com	[07:32]
BingoBoingo	chetty: I think SEC is trying to trap that BIg One and Number two are figments of Pirate's imagination	[07:32]
joecool	those two are probably BFF's	[07:32]
BingoBoingo	joecool: They might be the same	[07:32]
joecool	aethero sure had a lot of figments of his imagination	[07:33]
HeySteve	I linked to MPOE-PR's Bitcoin Foundation thread, I think it's good they get called to account	[07:33]
joecool	aethero still has great trust :P	[07:33]
joecool	;;gettrust aethero	[07:33]
gribble	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user joecool to user aethero: Level 1: -10, Level 2: 3 via 18 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=joecool&dest=aethero \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=aethero \| Rated since: Wed May 2 19:24:52 2012	[07:33]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo by the way, an important point : the reason the "media" sucks is not that they've sold out or follow external policies or w/e. it's that they are writing WITH THEIR READER IN MIND. the former then flows from this naturally, but it does not make a difference if you write with the reader in mind so as to advertise to it, or save its soul or merely inform it. it's all the same, and it's wrong.	[07:34]
mircea_popescu	write for yourself, as your own thing. think of it as picking up women : you don't puick up women by picking up women, you pick up women by doing any other thing	[07:34]
mircea_popescu	joecool course in fairness aethero is more like noted lunatic.	[07:35]
mircea_popescu	and he doesn't seem to have that great trust neh ?	[07:36]
mircea_popescu	;;gettrust aethero	[07:36]
gribble	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user aethero: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 17 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=aethero \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=aethero \| Rated since: Wed May 2 19:24:52 2012	[07:36]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Well it turn out this n00b sports betting guide is turning in to a bunch of parts I need to organize for my own benefit.	[07:36]
BingoBoingo	A good portion of it is already in the logs	[07:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 308 @ 0.004041 = 1.2446 BTC [-]	[07:36]
mircea_popescu	a ok, that works too.	[07:37]
benkay	heh i saw EV- and moved on	[07:37]
BingoBoingo	It's just the machine language of the lizard brain I consult for bets is rather dense.	[07:37]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00082658 = 5.91 BTC [-]	[07:38]
BingoBoingo	benkay: SOme bets can be plus EV, It is just there is a 2+ month wait between those.	[07:38]
benkay	i'm already long bitcoin	[07:38]
benkay	seems crazy enough for this decade	[07:38]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 53 @ 0.004041 = 0.2142 BTC [-] {2}	[07:39]
BingoBoingo	Gambling as entertainment and Gambling as pseudo-investment are very different things.	[07:39]
mircea_popescu	gesus god check out asciilifeform being quotable : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2014#548251 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2014#548254	[07:39]
mircea_popescu	it's like he's on a roll	[07:39]
BingoBoingo	As a mentioned a while ago the best reason to bet on an outcome is to make the watching it more enjoyable	[07:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 459 @ 0.004041 = 1.8548 BTC [-] {2}	[07:40]
BingoBoingo	Yeah asciilifeform has been so quatable today	[07:40]
BingoBoingo	asciilifeform: even linked http://i.imgur.com/hKk5a77.jpg	[07:41]
mircea_popescu	im totally stealing this and publishing it myself.	[07:41]
mircea_popescu	it's too good.	[07:42]
BingoBoingo	lol	[07:42]
mircea_popescu	cads so ask.	[07:43]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00082727 = 1.9027 BTC [+]	[07:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 54 @ 0.004041 = 0.2182 BTC [-]	[07:44]
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Duffer1	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=502567.0	[07:46]
ozbot	Project Abro	[07:46]
Duffer1	"Whatever I talk, I do with you, for you must benefit you. Further, the funds you spend on my way to be purposefully utilized."	[07:46]
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benkay	ABROOOOOO	[07:46]
benkay	amazing	[07:46]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[07:46]
Namworld	Buzzword cesspool?	[07:47]
Duffer1	omg	[07:47]
Duffer1	i can't even describe that post	[07:48]
Namworld	High as fuck?	[07:48]
cads	haha, I like it	[07:48]
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Namworld	Mental institute fugitive?	[07:49]
cads	I"m reading it in alec baldwin's voice.	[07:49]
Duffer1	lol	[07:49]
benkay	Most of the time people can't express their feelings. It has to be thrown out. Once it is thrown out, he/she feels light and refreshed.	[07:49]
benkay	This is the kind of service I'm offering here.	[07:49]
benkay	Consider me representing the one who troubled you, or I'm the situation that made you into trouble.	[07:49]
benkay	You might have to throw out all your frustrations, feelings etc.	[07:49]
mircea_popescu	maybe we're finally seeing markov chain ipos	[07:49]
benkay	I will get in touch with you in skype.	[07:49]
benkay	Scold me, spit at me, and express all of your feelings. Use all the filthy words as you can. Once you have done, your mind is filtered out with all the frustrations.	[07:49]
benkay	Your life will become beautiful. You get enormous energy. You will succeed in all your activities then.	[07:49]
benkay	Still, again someone will trouble you. Come again, take my skype session and spit at me. You will feel better.	[07:49]
benkay	While chatting if your feelings are very strong, I may scream for you. Don't stop, continue till the session ends.	[07:49]
Duffer1	it's an ipo for a pyramid scam that's also a futures bond and a cult	[07:49]
benkay	If you are not in a desire to spit at me, you may even let your neighbor/friend or anyone to utilize the service and spit at me.	[07:49]
benkay	i think this is something the forum needs to be chumpatron'd with	[07:49]
mircea_popescu	Duffer1 sounds just about descriptive of the moss that's in between average joe's ears.	[07:50]
Duffer1	i can't agree this time, this is a special kind of fail	[07:50]
cads	hahaha	[07:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.004041 = 1.2123 BTC [-]	[07:51]
Namworld	Abro is love, Abro is life. All praise Abro.	[07:51]
Namworld	Is he ipoing the universe? He's ipoing the universe.	[07:52]
BingoBoingo	https://twitter.com/RealCarrotFacts/status/441416835976925184	[07:53]
ozbot	Twitter / RealCarrotFacts: Carrot taste good even if you ...	[07:53]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6586 @ 0.00082658 = 5.4439 BTC [-]	[07:54]
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benkay	abro akbar	[07:59]
BingoBoingo	lol	[08:00]
BingoBoingo	Anyone else see SVU tonight?	[08:00]
moiety	wtaf is that post?! i like the mandatory note for "the service"	[08:00]
moiety	the btctalk one ^	[08:01]
Duffer1	the whole thread so far is fucking brilliant	[08:01]
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BingoBoingo	http://www.examiner.com/article/feline-internet-sensation-colonel-meow-dies	[08:03]
ozbot	Feline Internet sensation Colonel Meow dies - Chicago Cats \| Examiner.com	[08:03]
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benkay	i just realized that we have b-list feline internet celebrites	[08:07]
BingoBoingo	benkay: We do indeed	[08:07]
benkay	okay i get it mircea_popescu a penny from every human on earth makes for pathological everything	[08:07]
mircea_popescu	waitwat?	[08:07]
benkay	pennies from everyone and spears and such	[08:08]
mircea_popescu	i think you all've been cooped in here too long, and you're approaching some sort of mystical breakthrough of which i'm sadly left out :(	[08:08]
benkay	britney spears	[08:09]
moiety	how has there been a webz cat i didn't know about :o	[08:10]
BingoBoingo	Eh, in about 8 hours I'm driving 200 miles for a decent lunch. Well, maybe a bit more than 8 hours from nao. Depends how long I am passed out.	[08:10]
moiety	200 miles :o	[08:11]
moiety	its not icy is it?	[08:11]
BingoBoingo	moiety: Not icy atm, just driving 200 miles for 15 minutes of errand and lunch.	[08:12]
moiety	oh god have you seen arscoin?	[08:12]
BingoBoingo	If only Dooglus ran this casino http://gawker.com/gambler-sues-casino-over-the-500-000-he-lost-while-bla-1537450594	[08:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.004041 = 2.0205 BTC [-]	[08:13]
moiety	http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/03/behold-arscoin-our-own-custom-cryptocurrency/	[08:13]
ozbot	Behold Arscoin, our own custom cryptocurrency \| Ars Technica	[08:13]
moiety	wut	[08:13]
benkay	old nooz	[08:13]
benkay	also webwallet onry i hear	[08:14]
BingoBoingo	Premined scam	[08:14]
moiety	but but you can buy a gold username!	[08:14]
moiety	wtaf	[08:14]
moiety	is the GnuTLS bug old news too? im so slow	[08:15]
benkay	mhm	[08:16]
benkay	hey moiety have you heard about the multicoin wallet?	[08:16]
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benkay	they herd u liek crypto and obfuscated the source so they can steal your coins while you doge	[08:16]
moiety	i heard they were wanting to make one but i didn't know it had come to fruition	[08:18]
benkay	http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/03/05_multicoinwallet-considered-harmful.html	[08:18]
ozbot	MultiCoinWallet: Considered Harmful	[08:18]
benkay	not to imply you yourself are a thick sucker	[08:20]
benkay	you're in -assets, after all.	[08:20]
benkay	an assette!	[08:20]
moiety	lol i like it	[08:23]
moiety	the wallet not so much, good article. i wouldn't have touched it with someone else's anyways	[08:23]
moiety	ha i like the next one too	[08:25]
moiety	you need a subscribing list	[08:25]
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BingoBoingo	benkay is good at turning out the really pointed messages	[08:26]
moiety	he is very to-the-point, which = win	[08:26]
moiety	that lol	[08:27]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform kakobrekla cazalla http://trilema.com/2014/hi-this-is-the-article-title/	[08:27]
mircea_popescu	benkay ah ah yes.	[08:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.0040401 = 0.404 BTC [-]	[08:27]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3000 @ 0.00089005 = 2.6702 BTC [-] {2}	[08:28]
Duffer1	http://www.extremetech.com/computing/177882-massive-linux-security-flaw-dwarfs-apples-cryptography-problems-of-just-last-week	[08:29]
ozbot	Massive Linux security flaw dwarfs Apple’s cryptography problems of just last week \| ExtremeTech	[08:29]
mircea_popescu	yeh was here last week but worth repeating.	[08:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1717 @ 0.00396239 = 6.8034 BTC [-] {10}	[08:30]
moiety	i just heard of it today too	[08:30]
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BingoBoingo	Oh, Archer mentioned Bitcoin this week	[08:32]
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mircea_popescu	which archer	[08:32]
Duffer1	tv show	[08:33]
mircea_popescu	"Allowing drunk patrons to gamble and serving obviously intoxicated patrons are both illegal under Nevada law. Johnston's lawyer says his client's story is bolstered by surveillance video and eyewitness testimony."	[08:33]
mircea_popescu	this is actually a bit of a problem, people can sit down at their computer drunk as fuck and think hye, gamble my whole wallet on dice!	[08:34]
mircea_popescu	obviously not the dice site's problem, but also kind-of dangerous for the random idiot.	[08:34]
BingoBoingo	And this is why Dice suck.	[08:34]
mircea_popescu	well maybe.	[08:34]
mike_c	because you've never blown money on sports while drunk ;)	[08:35]
mircea_popescu	tbh i think dices have a future, but as backing for other services. they're currently exposed to the general public becaus e whatever, we're in the pdp and vax days over here.	[08:35]
mircea_popescu	but generally speaking, the dice model is the engine that can power a lot of cool applications down the road.	[08:35]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 204 @ 0.00386019 = 0.7875 BTC [-] {3}	[08:35]
BingoBoingo	mike_c: Actually totally plaster in sports have offered much better returns than sober and axious	[08:36]
mircea_popescu	i wonder if the same is true of the players.	[08:36]
mike_c	it is at least more fun	[08:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.0038518 = 0.1502 BTC [-] {2}	[08:36]
mircea_popescu	i wonder if superbowl/whatever advertising sports will eventualyl run out of money so bad they'll add new rules such as "each player must drink twelve shots of vodka before going on the field"	[08:37]
BingoBoingo	I've only had one huge gambling loss totally plastered.	[08:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 390 @ 0.00385512 = 1.5035 BTC [+] {3}	[08:37]
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BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: They might. For football it might be necessary. Actually the biggest PED among handegg players I've seen is the ganja.	[08:38]
cazalla	mircea_popescu: can i put that mention on my resume? seriously though, there is much to learn here for someone like me	[08:38]
mircea_popescu	cazalla lol sure.	[08:38]
mircea_popescu	whatever you do to your resume it can't end up worse than that exchange expert guy from a while back	[08:38]
BingoBoingo	Seriously, baseball's saving grace is it mixes the randomness of dice with the potential for talent	[08:41]
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BingoBoingo	Hashtag! DangerZone	[08:45]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.0039 = 1.17 BTC [+]	[08:54]
mircea_popescu	please allow me to spam :	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	Q: Next account, Gigavps, is this a true and accurate reflection of Gigavps' account history with Bitcoin Savings & Trust from on or about April 3rd, 2012 through on or about August 22, 2012 ?	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	A: No.	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	Q: What stands out at you as being incorrect?	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	A: I'll just know I used it a lot.	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	Q: For what?	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	A: For moving transactions.	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	Q: Meaning for Bitcoin Savings & Trust Investment transactions?	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	A: Yes. And he had a separate account that was a hidden account.	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	Q: A hidden account?	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	A: Yes.	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	Q: What do you mean by that?	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	A: Just an account used for basically his own lending account. They borrow coins real quickly to make cash transactions and stuff.	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	Q: From you?	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	A: Correct.	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	Q: What was his user name on that account?	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	A: I guess Gigavps, but it wasn't on Bitcoin Savings & Trust.	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	Q: Why doesn't it appear in this raw data?	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	A: Because it wasn't on there. It wasn't on this database or on this website. It was tracked through a - what was that - not Sales Force. I can't remember the name of the website. It was something we just worked out together. And it has a lot of his transactions. This account looks mostly like my stuff.	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	Q: Meaning --	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	A: 2002 --	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	Q: What do you mean by "my stuff"?	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	A: And then $500 deposit from Imsaguy?	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	Q: What do you mean "my stuff"?	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	A: Core stuff. This isn't all --	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	Q: You mean Bitcoin Savings & Trust investment activity?	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	A: This isn't all of the transactions there.	[08:55]
mircea_popescu	Q: Next account, Goat.	[08:55]
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BingoBoingo	Oh, and copumpkin was the doxxed one	[08:59]
mircea_popescu	what, you didn't know his name ?	[08:59]
*	copumpkin knew his name	[08:59]
mircea_popescu	he fucking sends email with his name on it, what's not to know.	[09:00]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: I knew it, but not in a court filing.	[09:00]
copumpkin	get with the times	[09:00]
copumpkin	lol, you google my nick my name is the first result	[09:00]
mircea_popescu	i guess.	[09:00]
copumpkin	I'm not exactly secretive	[09:00]
BingoBoingo	I mean Pirateat40 know copumkin's full name, but only James for GigaVPS	[09:00]
mircea_popescu	yes, but then pirate was an idiot.	[09:00]
copumpkin	he's also muddying things by lying	[09:00]
copumpkin	all over the placE :)	[09:01]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin no ?!	[09:01]
copumpkin	believe it or not!	[09:01]
mircea_popescu	i thought fraudsters never lie in court.	[09:01]
mircea_popescu	all this comes as news to me.	[09:01]
copumpkin	there was no way for pirate to think that goat's name is chaang noi :P	[09:01]
mircea_popescu	right.	[09:01]
BingoBoingo	lol	[09:01]
copumpkin	that's just retarded	[09:01]
copumpkin	I was amazed at how much crap he spewed in there	[09:01]
BingoBoingo	Pudgy white kid named Chaang Noi	[09:01]
mircea_popescu	actually... he only came up with chaang noi after his 6 months of laying low for the bst to blow over.	[09:02]
copumpkin	I think he got himself into more trouble there than he would be in if he'd just admitted it	[09:02]
mircea_popescu	well actually... i think in his case the meth defense cuts in	[09:02]
mircea_popescu	(ie, there's an absolute lowest limit a judge'll allow for self-critting idiocy, otherwise anyone from the inner cities would be doing >9k years)	[09:02]
BingoBoingo	Well this is just a civil case	[09:03]
mircea_popescu	this is really the reason prosecutions are so successful in the us. it's not really some sort of nefarious police stat	[09:03]
mircea_popescu	e/nasizm thing as some suggest. it's simply that most defendants are too stupid to live	[09:03]
copumpkin	and the guy is getting the SEC to drive him there in a car cause he doesn't have a car anymore	[09:03]
copumpkin	kind of sad	[09:03]
mircea_popescu	and if they were taken seriously they'd be just... you know, off to soylent plant	[09:03]
mircea_popescu	wait, no lambo ?	[09:04]
mircea_popescu	sec should buy a lambo.	[09:04]
copumpkin	apparently not!	[09:04]
copumpkin	they should ask the FBI for some of those SR coins and buy that mclaren that went up recently	[09:04]
copumpkin	fuck lambos	[09:04]
mircea_popescu	mclaren HONDA ?	[09:04]
BingoBoingo	Oh, the reasons I found a drive through miracle maker for my disorderly conduct misdemeanor, allegedly	[09:04]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=499965.0	[09:05]
copumpkin	you should get it	[09:05]
mircea_popescu	i don't drive	[09:05]
copumpkin	high five	[09:05]
copumpkin	I get driven	[09:05]
mircea_popescu	i also don't care for sportsters.	[09:05]
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copumpkin	mircea_popescu is too cool to drive, walks around with an open shirt on the street	[09:06]
mircea_popescu	definitely.	[09:06]
mircea_popescu	(and my zipper's not done in that shot, either)	[09:06]
BingoBoingo	Eh, I'll keep driving the shitty family sedan. No one suspects...	[09:06]
copumpkin	oh I wasn't checking	[09:07]
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B007	how do you have money and not drive?	[09:07]
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B007	or at least own cars	[09:07]
BingoBoingo	B007: Well Mircea has slaves, and copumpkin something?	[09:08]
copumpkin	I don't have a license	[09:08]
copumpkin	I get by without :)	[09:08]
mircea_popescu	https://www.google.com/search?q=Mercedes-Benz+E+230+(W210)&complete=0 << that, for instance, is imo one of the best cars ever made.	[09:09]
mircea_popescu	B007 i have cars, sometimes. i had dozens at some point. i jus' don't drive.	[09:10]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59098898 BTC [+]	[09:11]
mircea_popescu	"Pirate: And when I find that information, I will give you the updated information and show you that this was not a Ponzi scam. Just give me time. I promise you."	[09:11]
mircea_popescu	that's some epic shit right there.	[09:11]
BingoBoingo	lol	[09:12]
copumpkin	I liked the bit where they said "so wait, your company folded and you're in trouble now because someone screwed you out of 202k coins, and you forget who that someone is?"	[09:12]
BingoBoingo	Document one was the lulzier doc	[09:12]
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mircea_popescu	i pity that moustakis guy.	[09:12]
copumpkin	that was a long-ass interview	[09:12]
copumpkin	must've been exhausting for both of them	[09:13]
mircea_popescu	it's like you sign up to be a chiropractor, and you end up sent to practice in the loony bin	[09:13]
copumpkin	moustakis had to stay focused to catch all the crap the guy was saying, and I'm sure pirate was in overdrive trying to crank out more crap	[09:13]
BingoBoingo	Eh, looney bin ain't bad	[09:13]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin no, not for both of them. romanian expression is "nu te pune cu prostu' c-are mintea odihnita"	[09:13]
mircea_popescu	which says, don't mess with the stupid, his brain's well rested.	[09:13]
BingoBoingo	Get crayons	[09:13]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: I dunno, there were several pretty awkward moments when it was clear he'd been caught in a lie	[09:14]
mircea_popescu	so i take it you read this whole thing ? carefully ?	[09:14]
copumpkin	I'm sure he was freaking out and trying to come up with more convincing crap	[09:14]
copumpkin	well, I read the whole thing, not sure carefully fits	[09:14]
mircea_popescu	how about you make a full length treatment of the whole thing, with notes ?	[09:14]
mircea_popescu	i'd read it.	[09:14]
copumpkin	lol	[09:14]
mircea_popescu	are you under counsel to stfu or anything ?	[09:14]
copumpkin	I'd rather sleep	[09:14]
copumpkin	no, not at all	[09:14]
mircea_popescu	fuck sleep.	[09:14]
mircea_popescu	srsly, it's the best thing you can do right now.	[09:15]
mircea_popescu	for "the community", or w/e you call it.	[09:15]
copumpkin	lol	[09:15]
copumpkin	fuck that	[09:15]
copumpkin	sleep :)	[09:15]
mircea_popescu	irsrs tho.	[09:15]
joecool	store your passwords with him	[09:15]
copumpkin	I'm sure you can find someone with less valuable time to summarize the shit	[09:15]
BingoBoingo	copumpkin: The veggies need their prison tomorrow. When you wake...	[09:15]
copumpkin	joecool: you've made that joke before, it's getting old	[09:15]
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mircea_popescu	copumpkin you're in a very good position because you have the skill and the experience.	[09:15]
mircea_popescu	what, you think i just sprout this shit randomly cause i'm bored on irc	[09:16]
BingoBoingo	copumpkin: My time is probably the least valuable, but your insight is probably the most.	[09:16]
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copumpkin	I'm sure if this goes anywhere serious they'll call on me to testify	[09:16]
joecool	copumpkin: :( cranky	[09:16]
copumpkin	not that I'll really want to	[09:16]
copumpkin	:P	[09:16]
copumpkin	given how much the fucker talks about me	[09:16]
mircea_popescu	if that does happen, this write-up will be a great thing to have.	[09:16]
copumpkin	it seems almost inevitable	[09:16]
BingoBoingo	copumpkin: DO a writeup in the next couple weeks, GPG sign it	[09:17]
copumpkin	I don't see what the benefit would be	[09:17]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo for this purpose publishing beats signing.	[09:17]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: Given the nothingness published pre-August2012 publishing means little. "Shall be delivered"	[09:18]
mircea_popescu	copumpkin the usual benefit. a furthering of human knowledge on a topic.	[09:18]
BingoBoingo	Volume of text versus affirmed text	[09:18]
mircea_popescu	seeing how rthis topic is bitcoin, it kind-of trumps any other topic, even if some other topic may offer the illusion of importance.	[09:18]
copumpkin	mircea_popescu: I'm not opposed to it, but am not in a huge rush to spend my time on it either :) and would rather it be done in a formal setting so someone else can take care of summarizing/transcribing it :P	[09:19]
BingoBoingo	Of course.	[09:19]
copumpkin	lol	[09:19]
copumpkin	it doesn't trump that I have to get up for work in a few hours and need my beauty sleep	[09:19]
mircea_popescu	if you note, i said "full length treatment, with notes"	[09:19]
mircea_popescu	that does not map on "summarize"	[09:19]
copumpkin	pfft	[09:19]
BingoBoingo	I honestly am beneath this project	[09:19]
mircea_popescu	anyway. sleep well.	[09:20]
copumpkin	but anyway, as I said, I'm not opposed to doing that at some point :) thanks	[09:20]
BingoBoingo	I got the /. twice, but I am beneath the background necessary to treat this right	[09:21]
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mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo i just went through the list of names there, which remarkably i had pretty accurate to begin with. crossing out the outright liars, like psychological compulsive sort, and the idiots, you're left with maybe 2-3 names	[09:21]
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mircea_popescu	and i don't think reeses_ is even paying attention anymore.	[09:22]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: My list is comprable, but I the weight the "testimony" offer weighs so little on names I've assumed more guilty.	[09:23]
BingoBoingo	http://www.metrolyrics.com/the-man-comes-around-lyrics-johnny-cash.html?ModPagespeed=noscript	[09:23]
ozbot	Johnny Cash - The Man Comes Around Lyrics \| MetroLyrics	[09:23]
BingoBoingo	You still wake up sometimes, don't you? You wake up in the dark and hear the screaming of the lambs. And you think if you save poor Catherine, you could make them stop, don't you? You think if Catherine lives, you won't wake up in the dark ever again to that awful screaming of the lambs.	[09:25]
BingoBoingo	All those delicious lambs.	[09:25]
mircea_popescu	anyway this shit is pretty epic, it wasn't that zeek rewards went under, it's just that he can't remember who had 200k btc	[09:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 392 @ 0.00385 = 1.5092 BTC [-] {2}	[09:25]
BingoBoingo	Did anyone have 200k BTC?	[09:25]
moiety	lol new reply to abro thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=502567.msg5541511#msg5541511	[09:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 614 @ 0.00385 = 2.3639 BTC [-] {2}	[09:26]
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BingoBoingo	First principles, Simplicity. Read Aristotle. Of each particular thing ask: what is it in itself? What is its nature? What does he do, this man you seek?	[09:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00385 = 0.2888 BTC [-]	[09:27]
BingoBoingo	Oh, NeoButt is crashing	[09:28]
mircea_popescu	GNULinuxGuy did you end up buying in ?	[09:30]
mircea_popescu	lol moiety	[09:30]
BingoBoingo	This spring it takes what? 2 BTC to kill Harnett's bankerness? AAA-???BBQ	[09:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07634752 = 0.4581 BTC [-] {2}	[09:31]
mircea_popescu	well no cause there isn't one.	[09:32]
mircea_popescu	it's free!	[09:32]
mircea_popescu	so basically all the aurora crap ACTUALLY WAS strictly intended to win the bitbet bet.	[09:34]
mircea_popescu	qed, fuckers.	[09:34]
BingoBoingo	BitBet needs better submissions	[09:36]
mircea_popescu	defo.	[09:37]
mircea_popescu	someone was doing futures i saw	[09:37]
BingoBoingo	Lol	[09:37]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.59079997 BTC [-]	[09:37]
mircea_popescu	wha ?	[09:38]
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BingoBoingo	Mystery futures market maker	[09:38]
BingoBoingo	Making serious markets	[09:39]
BingoBoingo	While maintaining serious mystery	[09:39]
mircea_popescu	sounds like a coin	[09:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.07634753 = 2.2904 BTC [+]	[09:40]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.59079997 = 5.3172 BTC [-] {3}	[09:40]
BingoBoingo	I know a bunch of -assets people's Bitbet payout addresses and this bettor isn't obviously one.	[09:40]
BingoBoingo	Especially since BTC taint is not a thing.	[09:40]
BingoBoingo	Bitbet marketing must be good.	[09:40]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.5974257 = 4.182 BTC [+] {4}	[09:41]
mircea_popescu	well ok, but "i know" means i know some not i know all in this context neh ?	[09:41]
mircea_popescu	"like, i know my wife's husband and he happens to be me"	[09:41]
mircea_popescu	sure, if you say so. last night she said differently.	[09:41]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.076 = 1.52 BTC [-]	[09:42]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00389995 = 0.195 BTC [+] {2}	[09:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5959998 BTC [-]	[09:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.60949995 = 1.8285 BTC [+] {2}	[09:44]
BingoBoingo	Well in this case I know a wife was active. My wife was missing. I however do not know that any wife of mine was involved with any of these activities.	[09:44]
jcpham	half truths mircea_popescu	[09:44]
jcpham	it's atangled web	[09:44]
mircea_popescu	surely.	[09:44]
BingoBoingo	Lovely things about BTC	[09:44]
mircea_popescu	"Law Office of Clifford Lloyd"	[09:44]
mircea_popescu	ouch	[09:44]
BingoBoingo	.bait	[09:44]
ozbot	http://24.media.tumblr.com/ff686c03ae04aed06b98d851163facd0/tumblr_mtm0wsfZgm1ro13l2o1_1280.jpg	[09:44]
mircea_popescu	if someone ends up disbared over pirate's dumb ass that'll be the lol of all time.	[09:45]
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BingoBoingo	Pirate seems to have months of lols left	[09:46]
BingoBoingo	And in a civil suit.	[09:46]
BingoBoingo	Only in Bitcoin-exile is such a thing possible	[09:48]
BingoBoingo	Oh, so many problems here as well http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2014/03/salmonella_and_raw_eggs_how_i_ve_eaten_tons_of_cookie_dough_and_never_gotten.html Bedtime though	[09:50]
B007	and this is how you pump & dump http://s29.postimg.org/z0dwcl4rb/bitcoin.png	[09:50]
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B007	I made 78 in a day	[09:55]
B007	im so proud	[09:55]
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mircea_popescu	uh	[10:09]
B007	huh	[10:10]
mircea_popescu	http://buttcoin.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/pirateat40-destroyed.png that's pretty good stuff lol	[10:14]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo i dunno where you get the "civil proceedings" notions from.	[10:16]
mircea_popescu	guy just gave himself a criminal contempt count.	[10:16]
B007	is that guy fuked ? I think so	[10:16]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43124 @ 0.00083231 = 35.8925 BTC [+] {5}	[10:18]
mircea_popescu	that is oral culture at its finest. this guy is not part of contemporaneity, or even modernity. he finds himself in a roughly feudal time. back before literacy.	[10:19]
mircea_popescu	further proof that teaching kids to read and write is not either sufficient or particularly related to literacy.	[10:19]
B007	ofc you can't make people read if they dont want to	[10:20]
mircea_popescu	you can make people do absolutely anything they should be doing, provided you're comitted to beating them to death if they do not, and start before they're 5.	[10:21]
B007	but will they continue after the person that would beat them is gone?	[10:22]
chetty	yeah, it becomes habit	[10:22]
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mircea_popescu	http://buttcoin.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Screen-Shot-2014-03-05-at-1.34.57-PM.png	[10:22]
mircea_popescu	meanwhile... http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/smickles-icbitse-affidavit.txt	[10:22]
mircea_popescu	hey D : someone over there ain't doing their job of reading properly.	[10:23]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12350 @ 0.0008336 = 10.295 BTC [+]	[10:23]
mircea_popescu	B007 yes, it will continue. not even strictly of habit, as chetty says. take washing : once you get used to your smell when you're clean, you're not likely to stop washing.	[10:25]
mircea_popescu	but if you're used to your smell being filthy, you'll just keep on doing that because... whatever.	[10:26]
mircea_popescu	"whoever loves you loves you as you are" and all that.	[10:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.04339999 = 0.1736 BTC [+] {2}	[10:26]
mircea_popescu	so it's habit, but it's also that once you know things, stupidity appears quite different from how it appears back when you don't know things.	[10:26]
mircea_popescu	you gain what's called metacognitive ability.	[10:26]
mircea_popescu	and so you understand both why you had to be beaten, and why you'll be beating the shit off your kids, too. so they don't end up like the retarded us scum.	[10:27]
jurov	well, once you keep yourself clean other people can start to smell horribly (applies to stupidity as well)	[10:29]
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mircea_popescu	indeed.	[10:30]
mircea_popescu	which is why society naturally segregates. it's not that the upper class hates the lower class. it's just that the lower class... stinks.	[10:31]
chetty	I wonder if much of the animosity between tea party and occupy could be simply smell?	[10:31]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform for a total lulz : check out sec's own version of pgp, the pse : http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/containers/fix064/891166/0000898432-05-000712.txt	[10:31]
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mircea_popescu	chetty most of it. politics is a sexual matter.	[10:32]
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midnightmagic	children do better, perform better, respond better, and grow better when they aren't beaten.	[10:32]
mircea_popescu	you mean irl or in dreamland ?	[10:33]
midnightmagic	irl. There is virtually no evidence at all that beating children helps.	[10:33]
midnightmagic	There is virtually all the evidence that says that not beating them but maintaining discipline helps.	[10:33]
chetty	depends on the child, some actually need it	[10:33]
mircea_popescu	no, actually, there is an endless record of evidence that it does. what there's no evidence for is that not beating them is sustainable.	[10:33]
mircea_popescu	quite the contrary evidence abounds.	[10:33]
midnightmagic	No, there isn't.	[10:33]
mircea_popescu	right.	[10:33]
midnightmagic	Right.	[10:33]
mircea_popescu	we can move on to discussing how temperatures form a golf club pattern next	[10:34]
mircea_popescu	but as an exercise : consider whether you're randomly lumping together beating children with simple abuse, as a sort of strawman argument.	[10:34]
mircea_popescu	some random drunk randomly hitting some kid is absolutely not within the scope of this discussion.	[10:34]
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mircea_popescu	children have to be beaten systematically, in which case most don't actually even need pyshical contact.	[10:35]
midnightmagic	I understand what you mean. Virtually all infant and child development research disagrees with you.	[10:36]
mircea_popescu	virtually all data fugded by post 1950 us pseudoscience on the topic says random stupid shit.	[10:36]
mircea_popescu	it's about as good as us epidemiological data, that crap.	[10:36]
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mircea_popescu	well, either that or magically all kids suddenly need ritalin.	[10:38]
midnightmagic	No, ritalin is over-prescribed. That's evil on its own.	[10:38]
mircea_popescu	but it is over prescrived on the basis of " virtually all infant and child development research"	[10:39]
mircea_popescu	the same pseudoscientific process created both notions.	[10:39]
midnightmagic	I'm just saying, as much as it's possible to know such things, physical pain or even physical discomfort versus non-physical discipline tactics: the physical discipline is not as effective.	[10:39]
mircea_popescu	indeed. but do you know why ?	[10:39]
mircea_popescu	because the group that responds to the former well is SELF SELECTED.	[10:40]
midnightmagic	No it's not. Research is not the basis of ritalin over-prescription. In fact the research states that it is over-prescribed.	[10:40]
midnightmagic	:)	[10:40]
mircea_popescu	ie, theyre the smarter kids anwyay.	[10:40]
mircea_popescu	problem is the entire system collapses once kids know nobody can ever get beaten.	[10:40]
mircea_popescu	much like the us nuclear weapons, which the us refuses to declare will never be used.	[10:40]
chetty	fear is a wonderful motivation	[10:41]
midnightmagic	fear is not the most effective motivation. fear is not a direct motivator, it is a motivator to game the cease of fear.	[10:41]
mircea_popescu	basically you're externalising a cost. when "kids get beaten" subset A1 gets actually beaten and subset A2 learns from their experience.	[10:41]
mircea_popescu	you then run studies showing that A2 responds better than A1	[10:41]
mircea_popescu	once "kids don't get beaten" everyone's ~A2.	[10:41]
midnightmagic	That is fundamental study design. They don't make those kinds of selection bias mistakes in the research on which consensus is formed.	[10:42]
mircea_popescu	midnightmagic only in uncontrolled environments. in controlled environments, fear is a motivator exactly for education.	[10:42]
midnightmagic	Else someone else trying to make a name for themselves comes along and destroys it.	[10:42]
mircea_popescu	it's how the child brain works, for this purpose.	[10:42]
mircea_popescu	midnightmagic nobody is going t omake a name for themselves in the current us showing that not beating kids is a wrong thing.	[10:43]
midnightmagic	Yeeaaahh.. no. Sure it's a motivator. I'm just saying it's not the most effective.	[10:43]
mircea_popescu	it's not the most effective huh ?	[10:43]
mircea_popescu	it's the one to which kids can pose no resistence.	[10:43]
midnightmagic	I would say about half or more of the US actually agrees with you that beating children is the best way.	[10:43]
mircea_popescu	it's ultimate, not effectual.	[10:43]
mircea_popescu	it presents guarantees of success.	[10:43]
mircea_popescu	midnightmagic yes, but not the 14% aspirational crowd that "makes" names	[10:44]
midnightmagic	Anyway, just pointing it out. If you have access to a research institute with fulltext, you should check it out. It's really fascinating and, for me at least, counter-intuitive.	[10:45]
mircea_popescu	yeah, i think the most we can arrive to is stating the respective positions.	[10:45]
midnightmagic	Here, yeah for sure.	[10:45]
chetty	no 'academic' would admit things like that, anymore than admit global warming is off. the wouldn't get their grants.	[10:45]
mircea_popescu	chetty presumably the free market still exists in the us, both financially and with regard to ideas, so such an academic would "make a name for himself"	[10:46]
mircea_popescu	somehow.	[10:46]
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reeses_	I ignore nothing. I just don't pay attention.	[10:46]
chetty	ha, hasn't been a free market in ideas for a very long time	[10:46]
reeses_	I love that he claims a ccie and ccna and doesn't know what ccie stands for	[10:47]
reeses_	and that he got the ccie in high school	[10:47]
mircea_popescu	hence " and i don't think reeses_ is even paying attention anymore."	[10:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0845958 = 0.2538 BTC [+]	[10:48]
reeses_	switch what I said, then, I was ignoring it	[10:48]
mircea_popescu	midnightmagic but on the topic of making a name for oneself, know who tried that ? a certain dr. gleason. he tried to make a name for himself as not being a contemptible piece of shit. he was convicted, eventually, and then killed himself.	[10:48]
mircea_popescu	http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/12/and_now_the_pharma_pendulum_sw.html < tlp has the story.	[10:48]
ozbot	The Last Psychiatrist: Expendable; Or, And Now The Pharma Pendulum Swings Back The Other Way	[10:48]
mircea_popescu	reeses_ well then read the discussion with mr pineaple above too.	[10:48]
midnightmagic	huh. Never heard of him.	[10:49]
mircea_popescu	ikr?	[10:49]
mircea_popescu	kinda my point.	[10:49]
mircea_popescu	kinda why i'm stuck with an ever increasing intel dept	[10:49]
mircea_popescu	because nobody hears of anything anymore somehow.	[10:49]
*	midnightmagic has trouble getting "to the moon, alice" out of his head	[10:49]
reeses_	yeah, working my way through the docs right now as well	[10:50]
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reeses_	oh man this is so wrong	[10:52]
mircea_popescu	no ?!	[10:53]
reeses_	I love it	[10:53]
mircea_popescu	http://www.youtube.com/embed/SjbPi00k_ME	[10:54]
ozbot	Casablanca gambling? I'm shocked - YouTube	[10:54]
mircea_popescu	reeses_ he somehow omitted his cisco number	[10:56]
mircea_popescu	or did they stop giving out those ?	[10:56]
reeses_	yeah, I went to look it up	[10:56]
reeses_	:-)	[10:56]
reeses_	no, they're still numbered	[10:56]
mircea_popescu	http://www.bradreese.com/worldwide-ccie-count.htm	[10:57]
mircea_popescu	yeah its still there	[10:57]
reeses_	but it's not as prestigious now, although it would still have been when he was in school	[10:57]
mircea_popescu	in 2000ish ? yea, it think it'd have been all over slashdot. "highschooler gets ccie!!1"	[10:58]
mircea_popescu	o wait. no slashdot yet.	[10:58]
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reeses_	yeah, /. was around then, no?	[11:03]
mircea_popescu	wasnt it 2003 ish ?	[11:04]
mircea_popescu	no nm, turns out its late 90s.	[11:04]
mircea_popescu	"news at eight : everything is older than you think."	[11:05]
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mircea_popescu	http://buttcoin.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Screen-Shot-2014-03-05-at-2.00.38-PM.png	[11:11]
mircea_popescu	this shit's pretty good.	[11:11]
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reeses_	my homework is here somewhere, I think copumpkin has it	[11:12]
mircea_popescu	lol	[11:12]
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mircea_popescu	Duffer1: big one and number two.. anyone taking bets one of those was goat? << yes. how much you wanna bet ?	[11:13]
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mircea_popescu	dexX7 i wonder wtf is happening there re missing txns	[11:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 39 @ 0.0055 = 0.2145 BTC	[11:14]
mircea_popescu	this does not look toogood.	[11:14]
kakobrekla	they had an orphan in the list instead of the real block	[11:15]
kakobrekla	cause they were doing upgrades	[11:15]
kakobrekla	and were down for a bit	[11:15]
kakobrekla	and that happend.	[11:15]
dexX7	true, people were complaining about strange behavior for a few days now	[11:15]
dexX7	oh really? but the blockhash etc. was correct?	[11:15]
mircea_popescu	ah	[11:16]
mircea_popescu	ok than	[11:16]
dexX7	well, good then that it's known	[11:16]
kakobrekla	well i dunno, thats the word i got and i dont think its made up	[11:16]
kakobrekla	except if this is a different thing.	[11:16]
mircea_popescu	dexX7 wait, what blockhash ?	[11:16]
mircea_popescu	you mean the hash of the block as reported then matches the hash as reported now ?!	[11:17]
dexX7	there is this overview for example: https://blockchain.info/block-index/472689/000000000000000020cc76f78a24a6bc1c6d55e5514ee9b900ba08b3f97bc4a6	[11:17]
kakobrekla	anyway, whatever it is its blockchain.info related, not bitcoin	[11:17]
dexX7	and everything was correct except the number of transactions + the missing ones were indeed not listed	[11:17]
mircea_popescu	dexX7 the logic here is as follows :	[11:18]
mircea_popescu	the validity of a block is not established until later. which is what orphans and chain reorgs are.	[11:18]
mircea_popescu	if a service like blockchain.info goes down (ie, stops listening to the chain) it may end up with the impression a meanwhile discarded block is still valid	[11:19]
mircea_popescu	this would necessarily result in them listing a different set of txns from the actual set as found on the actual chain	[11:19]
dexX7	a discarded block would have another hash	[11:19]
mircea_popescu	which'd be caught up once it reorgs	[11:19]
mircea_popescu	but yes, said block would have to have its own hash	[11:19]
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mircea_popescu	so did it not ?	[11:19]
mircea_popescu	cause if it did not then the orphan theory is blown.	[11:19]
dexX7	the hash and merkleroot was the same	[11:20]
mircea_popescu	well then i suppose you'd better blog about it, or post or somthing.	[11:20]
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mircea_popescu	(i don't keep much of an eye on blockchain.info since there exists blockr)	[11:21]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla: thats what you get when retarded webdevs make exchanges, for the seventy fifth time << mpoe-pr sez https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=290799.msg4924847#msg4924847 but retards know better. as per usual.	[11:22]
mircea_popescu	re smickles : fwiw i knew he wasn't in vegas too.	[11:24]
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dexX7	maybe blockchain receives the complete blocks from it's backend in some way and had a small blackout while post-processing and adding the txs to their db ... well, who knows. they seem to be aware though.	[11:25]
kakobrekla	afaik the txes listed there were from an orphan	[11:26]
mircea_popescu	dexX7 maybe, let cary explain it.	[11:27]
mircea_popescu	so far, the "orphan" theory has a prblm.	[11:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4050 @ 0.0008336 = 3.3761 BTC [-]	[11:27]
kakobrekla	i havent checked anything but whats the problem	[11:28]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla that if they had an orphan it would show its own hash and root, not the correct block's.	[11:28]
mircea_popescu	if you go "block 200344, here's the hash (from block 200344') and here's the txn, from block 200344" you got a problem	[11:29]
kakobrekla	not necessarily, you dont know what the bug was	[11:29]
dexX7	there is no orphaned block listed for 288788, but i only have blockchain.info as source	[11:29]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla which is why i say let cary explain it, how the fuck would we know.	[11:29]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo did it actually say "Michael Marquardt" or theymos or what ?	[11:32]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2726 @ 0.0008336 = 2.2724 BTC [-]	[11:32]
mircea_popescu	fucking bs impossible to grep	[11:32]
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chetty	just Theymos I think	[11:37]
kakobrekla	two block appeared with same blockheight on blockchain info	[11:40]
kakobrekla	they had a fail and had to manually fix it thats why its not in the standard orphaned blocks page	[11:40]
kakobrekla	nothing to the story, move along.	[11:40]
mircea_popescu	same blockheight, same hash, diff txn set ?	[11:42]
kakobrekla	YES	[11:42]
mircea_popescu	some fail.	[11:42]
dexX7	but there was only one block in the network and two on blockchain.info due to the fail, right?	[11:45]
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kakobrekla	afaik no	[11:49]
kakobrekla	2 blocks on the network	[11:49]
kakobrekla	one is gone from bc records	[11:50]
mircea_popescu	so was this an evil block in some sense ?	[11:51]
kakobrekla	in the sense any other orphan would be an evil block to bc.info at the time	[11:51]
kakobrekla	as well	[11:51]
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mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves: "realizing net proceeds of $164,758 from his net sales of 86,202 bitcoins" << epic.	[11:54]
mircea_popescu	some people buy in at a little over 2, some people sell out at a little under 2, life goes on.	[11:55]
Diablo-D3	so	[11:55]
Diablo-D3	has the ukraine nuked russia yet?	[11:55]
reeses_	mircea_popescu: it just means his average spread was $2, which was ok at the time :-)	[11:57]
mircea_popescu	:D	[11:57]
reeses_	what a sad amount, though :-)	[11:57]
mircea_popescu	i fucking wonder, you know, what the thought process of the mentally impaired is.	[11:58]
reeses_	I mean, sure, that's real money in shitholes like texas and romania	[11:58]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: look in the mirror! dohohohohoho	[11:58]
mircea_popescu	like shavers, like taaki, like maxwell, like you know, the lengthy list of idiots that were "involved" early on	[11:58]
mircea_popescu	and then sorta... fell off.	[11:58]
reeses_	the mentally impaired generally lack the ability for introspection	[11:58]
Diablo-D3	oh man	[11:58]
reeses_	it's tough	[11:58]
Diablo-D3	I remember taaki	[11:58]
mircea_popescu	i guess this is true. what a blessing it is, then.	[11:58]
Diablo-D3	mircea_popescu: a lot of early people quit	[11:59]
mircea_popescu	otherwise it'd be all "o fuck me, 160k for 80k btc ? i did that ? srsly ? "	[11:59]
reeses_	ok I'm sure he is doing that now	[11:59]
mircea_popescu	i guess that's why the sec claiming the current price is a good thing	[11:59]
reeses_	yeah	[11:59]
mircea_popescu	basically the da exists to make the stupid introspect	[11:59]
reeses_	since they hold the coins, too	[11:59]
mircea_popescu	that's all it's there for. costs the rest of us a prett ypenny, too	[11:59]
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mircea_popescu	benkay:	[12:08]
mircea_popescu	;;rated Vandroiy	[12:08]
gribble	You rated user Vandroiy on Sat Sep 1 23:00:35 2012, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: Risked 5k of his own bitcoins to help a bunch of forum retards see the light..	[12:08]
kakobrekla	isnt taaki still herp derping around, why are you talking like he is history, i mean he might be, but he doesnt know that	[12:08]
kakobrekla	nor act like it	[12:08]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla cause no btc.	[12:08]
mircea_popescu	btc, tits. btc is the only thing that matters, the only thing that lasts. tara!	[12:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00567001 = 0.1134 BTC [+]	[12:09]
kakobrekla	i bet we will see him on 'major' tv stations this year	[12:09]
kakobrekla	probably the next too	[12:09]
mircea_popescu	sure.	[12:10]
kakobrekla	present history	[12:10]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4439 @ 0.00083256 = 3.6957 BTC [-]	[12:10]
mircea_popescu	actually correct quote : “The BTC is the only thing in the world worth working for, worth fighting for, worth dying for, because it's the only thing that lasts".	[12:10]
kakobrekla	only until the end of the universe :	[12:11]
kakobrekla	so you might as well just fuck it	[12:11]
mircea_popescu	lol	[12:11]
chetty	http://imgur.com/gallery/iRSmRCg	[12:14]
ozbot	As a European this is how I imagine Americans have breakfast - Imgur	[12:14]
kakobrekla	http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=503105.msg5543619#msg5543619	[12:14]
ozbot	Is Bitstamp going the same way as Gox?	[12:14]
kakobrekla	oh my, a marketing director!!	[12:14]
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mircea_popescu	anyway, the one - pretty much the only one - barb for the sec in the pirate story is that indeed the facts seem to support pirate's allegation that he actually paid out the newest investors first.	[12:22]
mircea_popescu	moustakis tried to finesse it out of the testimony, and absent any sort of competent defese it will probably wash away just fine	[12:22]
mircea_popescu	but it is quite atypical for a ponzi	[12:22]
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mircea_popescu	anyway, funny how goat got double paid, suckled something from pirate, suckled something from suckers buying debt...	[12:24]
mircea_popescu	;;rated chaang-noi	[12:24]
gribble	You have not yet rated user chaang-noi	[12:24]
mircea_popescu	;;seen chaang-noi	[12:25]
gribble	chaang-noi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 3 days, 4 hours, 25 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: might have to sue em	[12:25]
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BigBitz	kakobrekla?	[12:27]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14464 @ 0.00083687 = 12.1045 BTC [+] {3}	[12:28]
kakobrekla	a?	[12:31]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform that https://static.pinboard.in/webstock_2014.htm is at least fucking ideologically bizarre. they represent electrification as this obscure political strategy move, when it's quite obvious the thing proceeded on economic rationale.	[12:33]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00401659 = 0.2008 BTC [+] {3}	[12:49]
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wao-ender	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWhVMsJCUAAdoYx.png:large	[13:06]
kakobrekla	http://imgur.com/gallery/Vn74zOf	[13:07]
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mircea_popescu	http://31.media.tumblr.com/fa6e3114a4258b2d26660215e7341f2c/tumblr_mzo25sSdI31su84zzo1_1280.jpg	[13:28]
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mircea_popescu	http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/mother-assaulted-with-vibrator-576321	[13:43]
ozbot	Cops: Woman Beat Her Mom With Vibrator \| The Smoking Gun	[13:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 148 @ 0.004041 = 0.5981 BTC [+]	[13:45]
dexX7	http://mag.newsweek.com/2014/03/14/bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto.html	[13:45]
dexX7	^ satoshi found ;)	[13:45]
mircea_popescu	not nick szabo again is it ?	[13:48]
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mircea_popescu	lmao newsweek beat the bushes till they found one guy named satoshi nakamoto that was within driving distance	[13:51]
mircea_popescu	herp derp dur dur durr.	[13:51]
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mircea_popescu	anyway, the responsible tard being Leah McGrath Goodman	[13:55]
nubbins`	responsible enough to publish a photo of the guy's home, with number visible	[13:56]
nubbins`	poor man	[13:56]
mircea_popescu	at least gavin goes on the record saying that he doesn't need any money,	[13:58]
mircea_popescu	and a bunch of other retarded shit.	[13:58]
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mircea_popescu	Andresen responded: "Yeah, I'm not happy with the 'wacky pirate money' tone, either."	[13:59]
mircea_popescu	Then he told Nakamoto he'd accepted an invitation to speak at the Central Intelligence Agency headquarters. "I hope that by talking directly to them and, more importantly, listening to their questions/concerns, they will think of Bitcoin the way I do - as a just-plain-better, more efficient, less-subject-to-political-whims money," he said. "Not as an all-powerful black-market tool that will be used by anarchists to ove	[13:59]
mircea_popescu	rthrow the System."	[13:59]
mircea_popescu	From that moment, Satoshi Nakamoto stopped responding to emails and dropped off the map.	[13:59]
mircea_popescu	as scummy as it gets.	[13:59]
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nubbins`	thanks gavin!	[13:59]
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nubbins`	okay, i just bought tickets to see neutral milk hotel in berlin	[14:01]
nubbins`	time to wake up pascale by smacking her in the face with them	[14:01]
nubbins`	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jtZx9LNpAY	[14:02]
ozbot	In the Aeroplane Over the Sea- Neutral Milk Hotel - YouTube	[14:02]
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mircea_popescu	"If you come out as the leader of Bitcoin, now you have to make appearances and presentations and comments to the press and that didn't really fit with Satoshi's personality,"	[14:12]
mircea_popescu	kinda shocking how stupid this character is, seriously.	[14:13]
mircea_popescu	you gotta ? really ? how about the press and all that learns to irc instead. not like bitcoin is here to _adapt_ to anything now is it.	[14:13]
kakobrekla	irc lol is that even still a thing?	[14:14]
mircea_popescu	"He was the kind of person who, if you made an honest mistake, he might call you an idiot and never speak to you again," Andresen says.	[14:14]
mircea_popescu	yet he somehow magically doesn't understand why satoshi ain't talkin' to him no more.	[14:14]
mircea_popescu	i wonder. what could it be ?	[14:14]
nubbins`	"hey bru, know that disruptive technology you've been working on? well, i just got invited to speak with the cia about it! amazing, huh?"	[14:15]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[14:15]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla yeah, it's where the UK prime minister trawls for special assistants to help him get the best child pron	[14:15]
nubbins`	trawling decimated fish stocks here	[14:15]
mircea_popescu	anyway, enough loling at fucktarded english major chicks, back to rift crafting	[14:15]
mircea_popescu	the lyf and tymes.	[14:15]
nubbins`	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse_of_the_Atlantic_northwest_cod_fishery	[14:17]
ozbot	Collapse of the Atlantic northwest cod fishery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	[14:17]
mircea_popescu	yeah. sad.	[14:17]
nubbins`	almost one in ten newfoundlanders made their living doing that	[14:17]
nubbins`	unemployed overnight :0	[14:18]
mircea_popescu	that's nothing.	[14:19]
mircea_popescu	about two in three white people are employed working for the government.	[14:19]
mircea_popescu	comes to about 600mn to be unemployed overnight one of these nights.	[14:19]
nubbins`	http://youtu.be/inDgw8AWmiw?t=2m	[14:21]
ozbot	The end of the Cod - John Crosbie in Bay Bulls Canada Day 1992. - YouTube	[14:21]
nubbins`	federal fisheries minister to angry mob: "i didn't take the fish out of the goddamn water"	[14:21]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu: we're only getting rid of white government? ;0	[14:23]
mircea_popescu	pretty much the only places with actual government are white majority population.	[14:23]
mircea_popescu	china i suppose is making some moves towards relevancy, but i know jack shit about china	[14:24]
chetty	http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2014/03/02/oesterreicher-planen-sammelklage-gegen-kredit-system-der-banken/	[14:26]
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nubbins`	planen... not holding breath ;(	[14:30]
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dexX7	https://twitter.com/gavinandresen/status/441547758827474946	[14:49]
ozbot	Twitter / gavinandresen: I'm disappointed Newsweek decided ...	[14:49]
dexX7	"I'm disappointed Newsweek decided to dox the Nakamoto family, and regret talking to Leah."	[14:49]
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mircea_popescu	total derp this guy.	[15:02]
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antephialtic	mircea_popescu: do you think the article was an invasion of privacy?	[15:12]
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mircea_popescu	i think the article was an ebullution of idiocy.	[15:33]
nubbins`	i just bought thirty-seven pounds of pork shoulder	[15:34]
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MisterE	http://www.forbes.com/sites/chriswright/2014/02/11/when-chinas-food-runs-out/	[15:52]
ozbot	When China's Food Runs Out - Forbes	[15:52]
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MisterE	finally someone gets it	[15:53]
MisterE	whats's a good non-Win bot?	[15:53]
MisterE	I run os x or Debian	[15:53]
mircea_popescu	irc bot you mean ?	[15:54]
asciilifeform	where is the proof that the old man had anything to do with btc? or even exists	[15:54]
MisterE	no trading bot	[15:55]
MisterE	for btc and alts	[15:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.04339 = 0.1736 BTC [-]	[15:56]
MisterE	know any of these? http://easybitinvesting.com/bitcoin-trading/trading-robots/	[15:56]
asciilifeform	MisterE: i posted here about this a few days ago, look in logs if you're interested.	[15:56]
asciilifeform	MisterE: (re: china)	[15:56]
MisterE	oh?	[15:56]
asciilifeform	MisterE: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-03-2014#544394	[15:57]
MisterE	nice, ty	[15:57]
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asciilifeform	MisterE: beginning of that conversation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-03-2014#544315	[15:59]
MisterE	why mircea_popescu say Ukraine is not productive and that article says its where .ch wants to buy its land becouse produces a lot of wheat?	[15:59]
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asciilifeform	MisterE: the chinese have certain methods of farming 'disposable' (i.e. belonging to untermenschen) lands	[16:00]
asciilifeform	MisterE: they have demonstrated this in the russian far east, where they occupied various places, some legally (rented), some otherwise	[16:01]
MisterE	farming has got to go hydro and less land intensive	[16:02]
asciilifeform	in other news,	[16:04]
asciilifeform	ua rebels now have... their own crematorium. (http://www.svpressa.ru/society/article/83339)	[16:04]
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mircea_popescu	asciilifeform https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=503831.new#new basically. the same idea.	[16:09]
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asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: somebody should teach these folks the virtues of seppuku.	[16:10]
mircea_popescu	but why ? if the cattle harakiri'd randomly wed have all these stale carcasses all over.	[16:11]
asciilifeform	ah, they just need to do it in a certified abbatoir.	[16:11]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform "if there's a fire, don't do anything, call the fire people"	[16:13]
mircea_popescu	"if there's a robbery don't do anything, call the robbery people"	[16:13]
mircea_popescu	"if you feel like your time is up... don't... do anything... call the... "	[16:14]
mircea_popescu	etcv	[16:14]
asciilifeform	'1-800-SEP-UKKU' ...	[16:15]
mircea_popescu	facebukku	[16:15]
asciilifeform	http://i2.cpcache.com/product/99626877/quietus_mug.jpg?height=350&width=350	[16:16]
dexX7	"fiat style attack" ..?	[16:16]
mircea_popescu	lol i don't get it.	[16:17]
chetty	http://atn.ua/politika/glavnyy-ravvin-ukrainy-rossiya-predstavlyaet-opasnost-dlya-evreev-ukrainy	[16:17]
mircea_popescu	dexX7 yes. identity established not through the mechanism it is predicated upon, but through "the agreement" of "the people", specifically those who are too stupid to even understand what's being discussed.	[16:18]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: that cup is referring to a cheap sf flick, 'children of men', where there's an apocalyptic degringolade, and pill in question is a bestseller.	[16:18]
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mircea_popescu	roughly equivalent to some kid trying to resolve his upset at bitbet by "getting votes"	[16:18]
mircea_popescu	oh. musta been before my time.	[16:18]
asciilifeform	'04	[16:18]
asciilifeform	i think	[16:18]
dexX7	ah and in contrast one would simply sign some genesis coins and that's it	[16:18]
asciilifeform	chetty: related: http://cryptome.org/2014/03/ukraine-national-socialism.htm (with helpful translations)	[16:19]
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mircea_popescu	dexX7 right ?	[16:20]
dexX7	yes	[16:20]
asciilifeform	well, they're pushing a picture of a 'go away, i won't admit the deed' satoshi	[16:21]
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mircea_popescu	or whatever, send 1 bitcent from the genesis block to 1newsweak98759843	[16:21]
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mircea_popescu	about fifty different ways to go about it, all taking five minutes.	[16:21]
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mircea_popescu	anyway, if fake satoshi comes up with some derpage about how we should all love each other, feed africa and stop oppressing faggots it'll be just perfect.	[16:25]
asciilifeform	the real fun starts when we get a 2nd, 3rd... лжеsatoshi.	[16:25]
mircea_popescu	or whatever, fighting economic unequality and promoting the virtues of an unspecified, bug ridden codebase and the halfwits that nursed it to this day	[16:25]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform actually there's already a dude claiming he's it	[16:25]
mircea_popescu	(also legally named satoshi nakamoto)	[16:25]
asciilifeform	but he wasn't anointed by nooseweak, was he	[16:26]
mircea_popescu	i guess that one had the disadvantage that the entire nonsense needed plane tickets, and newsweek wouldn't spring	[16:26]
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mircea_popescu	so the girl had to hitchhike to sonora or w/e	[16:26]
mircea_popescu	closer to home.	[16:26]
mircea_popescu	wherever a guy who "was deeply influenced by silicon valley" and also "uses prefix notation" could be found.	[16:27]
asciilifeform	'uses prefix notation' ?!1!	[16:28]
pigeons	and two spaces after periods	[16:28]
mircea_popescu	right.	[16:28]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform yes, yes. whatever you call it, polish ?	[16:28]
asciilifeform	turns out i'm satoshi - who knew.	[16:28]
MisterE	2 spaces is asian	[16:28]
mircea_popescu	no, you're just deeply influenced by silicon valley.	[16:28]
pigeons	i thought everyone did that	[16:28]
MisterE	well this side of the pond	[16:29]
MisterE	no not uS	[16:29]
mircea_popescu	like you know... i don't think you can find someone doing that in the vc circus if your life depended on it	[16:29]
MisterE	it seems I come across double spacing less often now though, maybe just me	[16:30]
michiel_l	midnightmagic mikaeldice MiningBuddy mircea_popescu MisterE mius mixdio	[16:31]
mircea_popescu	MisterE it's really a leftover from typewriter days.	[16:31]
MisterE	or if its lazy good for nothing cheating students	[16:31]
mircea_popescu	makes 0 sense on a digital system	[16:31]
MisterE	oh yea totally fogotten	[16:31]
pigeons	omg, my husbandhas bad grammar too, just like satoshi nakamoto	[16:31]
mircea_popescu	wait, you have a husband now ?	[16:32]
mircea_popescu	AND a wife ?	[16:32]
MisterE	hah	[16:32]
mircea_popescu	what are you, the family dog ?	[16:32]
pigeons	depends what day it is	[16:32]
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chetty	http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/03/putin-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/	[16:38]
ozbot	Putin \| Ukraine \| Crimea \| Nobel Peace Prize \| Nomination	[16:38]
asciilifeform	chetty: he'll get his right after snowden.	[16:39]
chetty	hahahahaha	[16:39]
asciilifeform	chetty: and it won't be a nobel pederasteace prize, but a Lenin prize.	[16:39]
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chetty	but then he and O could make a club or sumthin	[16:40]
asciilifeform	http://www.iss-reshetnev.com/images/Image/org/history/ord_lenina.jpg	[16:40]
mircea_popescu	lol	[16:41]
mircea_popescu	well i dunno, the peace prize seems inappropriate.	[16:42]
mircea_popescu	putin could get the physics nobel for his crimeea contgributions	[16:42]
mircea_popescu	bernanke math...	[16:42]
asciilifeform	some joker ought to fund a 'fields medal' for... spam.	[16:43]
asciilifeform	Chumpatronics Medal	[16:43]
MisterE	hmm maybe a pot fund	[16:45]
MisterE	it's going to be huge cash when it sweeps america next 10-years	[16:45]
asciilifeform	MisterE: S.MOKE ?	[16:45]
MisterE	yup	[16:45]
asciilifeform	MisterE: see mp's essay on cattle-tronics technology to learn why this is not actually an idea.	[16:49]
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mircea_popescu	actually this is pretty funny : The New Yorker's satoshi is Michael Clear ; Fast Company's satoshi is (Neal King, Vladimir Oksman and Charles Bry). Business Insider's satoshi is Nick Szabo.	[17:04]
mircea_popescu	there are also two individuals legally named satoshi nakamoto, one presenting himself as satoshi, the other being presented by newsweek as satoshi	[17:04]
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mircea_popescu	there's also Shinichi Mochizuki, Gavin's wife, Jed McCaleb (judging by kraken... god help us)	[17:05]
chetty	Crimea votes to join Russia	[17:07]
mircea_popescu	there's of course also the government	[17:07]
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jurov	chetty what, they finally moved the refendum to yesterday?	[17:08]
jurov	*referendum	[17:08]
jurov	it was supposed to be at 30th, then at 16th	[17:08]
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chetty	Crimea's parliament voted to join Russia on Thursday and its Moscow-backed government set a referendum within 10 days	[17:08]
asciilifeform	i'd really have to be in the place of a fellow 'getting satoshied'	[17:09]
asciilifeform	can already feel the rectothermal warmth just thinking about it.	[17:09]
asciilifeform	*really hate	[17:09]
jurov	nice freudian slip	[17:09]
asciilifeform	haha	[17:09]
chetty	well all the Satochies could get together and have a party	[17:10]
asciilifeform	'skull of voltaire as a child'	[17:10]
mircea_popescu	party sounds good.	[17:11]
mircea_popescu	except no women ?	[17:11]
chetty	ok so Satochies and guests	[17:12]
asciilifeform	surely some could be found. the journarasts should work harder.	[17:12]
asciilifeform	at some point you'll have to demonstrate a cyanide tooth to be even considered a proper candidate for satoshidom.	[17:13]
mircea_popescu	satoshidom	[17:14]
mircea_popescu	lmao.	[17:14]
pLambert	do we know that Satoshi is a male?	[17:14]
mircea_popescu	satoshidoms and satoshidommes, at the bcst!	[17:14]
mircea_popescu	pLambert i was merely commenting on the people held up for the role by the media so far.	[17:14]
mircea_popescu	we don't know jack.	[17:14]
asciilifeform	pLambert: how anyone can claim to know anything at all about s, is a mystery.	[17:15]
chetty	hmmmmm sounds like a great halloween costume :satoshidommes	[17:15]
asciilifeform	the best evident for nsatoshi, for instance, is the grungy cpp	[17:15]
asciilifeform	rather than anything posted under the name	[17:15]
mircea_popescu	TC: Does it matter? What would it change if it did, in your opinion?	[17:17]
mircea_popescu	SG: I think it’s very important to identify Satoshi at this point in Bitcoin’s history. The “agenda” behind Bitcoin, if there is any, cannot stay in the shadow if Bitcoin is to become a mainstream alternative currency, a challenge to the world’s monetary status quo. There has been speculation that Bitcoin may have been created by a government agency (the main employers of cryptographers of mathematicians) in	[17:17]
mircea_popescu	an attempt to make financial transactions easier to mine for interesting data patterns: we need to clear that up before we start relying heavily on Bitcoin in our lives.	[17:17]
mircea_popescu	no but check out the stupid.	[17:17]
mircea_popescu	people are incredible.	[17:17]
mircea_popescu	TC: How has your digging gone over in the BTC community? It seems like an unpopular topic at best.	[17:18]
mircea_popescu	SG: It has not been received well, many people are telling me to “leave Satoshi alone”. But when one starts having a huge impact on the world, one loses his right to anonymity.	[17:18]
mircea_popescu	orly.	[17:18]
mircea_popescu	i gotta stop reading on this topic jesus god they're offensive.	[17:18]
asciilifeform	;;google sympathetic magic	[17:18]
gribble	Sympathetic magic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Chapter 3. Sympathetic Magic. § 1. The Principles of Magic. Frazer ...: ; Sympathetic magic - Merriam-Webster Online:	[17:18]
asciilifeform	;;google ritual cleanliness	[17:18]
gribble	Ritual purification - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Ritual washing in Judaism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Tumah and taharah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:	[17:18]
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asciilifeform	tomorrow's headline: 'vlad p signs message with satoshi's key, asking idiots to stfu'	[17:19]
asciilifeform	incidentally, anyone who does so... will be satoshi	[17:20]
asciilifeform	or at least a fork.	[17:20]
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mircea_popescu	actually this suggests a bet to me.	[17:21]
asciilifeform	i thought people didn't like 'geological' bets.	[17:21]
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nubbins`	first shoulder trimmed and cubed	[17:23]
nubbins`	hands like claws	[17:24]
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mircea_popescu	meh, too hard to specify.	[17:27]
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nubbins`	so i sent a coin to australia on january 14. it took nineteen days to get from here to vancouver, and finally arrived in australia today	[17:47]
nubbins`	what a wait!	[17:47]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0842 = 0.421 BTC [-]	[17:51]
ThickAsThieves	http://www.theverge.com/2014/3/6/5476944/norway-will-cut-through-an-island-in-tribute-to-massacre-victims	[17:55]
ozbot	Norway will cut through an island in tribute to massacre victims \| The Verge	[17:55]
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cazalla	that's quite a long time nubbins`	[18:00]
cazalla	maybe it was stuck at customs	[18:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 47 @ 0.00436999 = 0.2054 BTC [+] {3}	[18:01]
cazalla	with standard shipping, i usually get amazon orders to here in around 2 weeks	[18:01]
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nubbins`	i've never had anything take so long -- wondering what shape the package will be in when it arrives	[18:02]
nubbins`	19 days to cross canada is nuts :0	[18:02]
ThickAsThieves	maybe it was intercepted	[18:04]
mircea_popescu	inception	[18:04]
nubbins`	ThickAsThieves, that's pretty striking	[18:06]
nubbins`	(re: link)	[18:06]
nubbins`	re: package, my guess is the express shipping label somehow got ripped off	[18:07]
nubbins`	and it went surface	[18:07]
ThickAsThieves	i can't recall a better memorial idea	[18:07]
nubbins`	at least the month and a half of panicking is over. guy paid 6btc for the coin inside, via escrow	[18:08]
ThickAsThieves	maybe have the guy photograph it before opening the package	[18:09]
ThickAsThieves	in case it was tampered with	[18:09]
nubbins`	yeah, conditions included hd video of unpackaging	[18:09]
nubbins`	can't be too careful	[18:09]
nubbins`	this buyer was the only person so far who took me up on the offer to extend the pgp chain of custody	[18:10]
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dexX7	nubbins` you already used super slow shipping for the baked cat shirts, so i'm not surprised :p	[18:18]
nubbins`	well, that was more practicality than anything. nobody wants to spend $30 shipping on a $15 shirt	[18:19]
nubbins`	coins, i send express :D	[18:19]
dexX7	was it a redeemed one?	[18:20]
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nubbins`	nope	[18:21]
dexX7	:)	[18:21]
nubbins`	i only ever peeled one casascius coin (0.5btc brass)	[18:21]
nubbins`	was thrilling	[18:21]
nubbins`	for about a minute	[18:23]
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KRS-One	You need to get out more nubbins`	[18:23]
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nubbins`	http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/bitcoin-exchange-first-meta-ceo-autumn-radtke-found-dead-1.2562077	[18:23]
ozbot	Bitcoin exchange First Meta CEO Autumn Radtke found dead - Technology & Science - CBC News	[18:23]
mircea_popescu	http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m37j6y9SXS1ru9xfzo1_1280.jpg	[18:23]
nubbins`	KRS-One: the problem is how to entertain myself while i'm in!	[18:23]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-03-2014#545213	[18:24]
nubbins`	gah	[18:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.0690001 = 2.07 BTC [-] {3}	[18:24]
mircea_popescu	dun dun dun	[18:24]
nubbins`	sadtrumpet.mp3	[18:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.06801001 = 0.204 BTC [-]	[18:25]
dexX7	there are several headlines with "bitcoin ceo died" =D	[18:26]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.06801 = 0.6801 BTC [-]	[18:26]
nubbins`	http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/could-bars-open-until-6-a-m-be-in-montreal-s-future-1.2562057	[18:27]
ozbot	Could bars open until 6 a.m. be in Montreal's future? - Montreal - CBC News	[18:27]
nubbins`	^ HEH	[18:27]
nubbins`	cops are gonna love that	[18:27]
nubbins`	this will last until the first hockey game	[18:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04259 = 0.1278 BTC [+]	[18:29]
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ThickAsThieves	http://www.coindesk.com/upcoming-version-bitcoinj-software-will-use-tor-network/	[18:30]
ThickAsThieves	Hearn keeps on giving	[18:30]
ThickAsThieves	http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2014/03/05/most-popular-bitcoin-apps-soon-to-run-on-tor-anonymity-network/	[18:31]
ozbot	Most Popular Bitcoin Apps Soon To Run On Tor Anonymity Network - Forbes	[18:31]
ThickAsThieves	^ source	[18:31]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 54 @ 0.04297777 = 2.3208 BTC [+] {3}	[18:31]
benkay	sigh	[18:31]
nubbins`	forbes.com/sites/	[18:32]
nubbins`	is where i stopped reading	[18:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.04339994 = 0.1736 BTC [+] {2}	[18:32]
ThickAsThieves	i dont think it's quite the same as CNN/sites/	[18:32]
ThickAsThieves	might just be where they keep their "columnists"	[18:33]
nubbins`	oh, i think you might be right	[18:34]
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dexX7	kakobrekla: another orphaned block? https://blockchain.info/block-height/288294 + http://pastebin.com/xLFmbfD0	[18:39]
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dexX7	the bci block has 693 txs	[18:40]
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kakobrekla	yeah dunno	[18:42]
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dexX7	*the real one has 693 (instead of 554)	[18:44]
kakobrekla	yes also the hash matches real hash on blockr	[18:45]
kakobrekla	interestingly enough dexX7 , tx fees match perfectly	[18:47]
kakobrekla	only 150txes missing	[18:47]
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dexX7	yea. the one from earlier was fixed on bc.info in the meantime	[18:48]
mircea_popescu	so is this coindesk basically a hand aggregator of the retarded press ?	[18:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 25 @ 0.0055 = 0.1375 BTC	[18:49]
mircea_popescu	some kid just sits and googles forbes, business dorksider etc all day ?	[18:49]
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nubbins`	reading an article about Staples closing 225 stores and there's a quote from some asshole about "right-sizing" their retail footprint	[18:49]
nubbins`	fuck, i hate business speak	[18:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00436983 = 0.3277 BTC [+] {5}	[18:50]
nubbins`	back when i worked in a fabric-covered box, i walked past an office and overheard the woman inside talking about a "head count reduction"	[18:50]
kakobrekla	dexX7 well what can i say, blockr seems more reliable :)	[18:50]
nubbins`	nobody's getting fired, we're just going to count people, and if you don't get counted you're not getting paid	[18:50]
dexX7	indeed. i like the website	[18:50]
mircea_popescu	dexX7 this may be more or less the time one removes any large btc balances from blockchain	[18:50]
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kakobrekla	dexX7 001ef3beb93da31ca03a0643951c594623df5f4fb670536a07614ea7c23053e4 might be the problem	[18:51]
kakobrekla	and it seems its the tx that they made	[18:51]
kakobrekla	so it seems they have a prob with their own txes	[18:52]
mircea_popescu	hence my comment.	[18:53]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.08463509 = 0.5924 BTC [+] {3}	[18:53]
dexX7	the note only means that the tx was relayed or broadcasted by bci	[18:53]
dexX7	the tx has actually 928 confirmations	[18:53]
kakobrekla	http://blockchain.info/tx/001ef3beb93da31ca03a0643951c594623df5f4fb670536a07614ea7c23053e4 vs http://blockr.io/tx/info/001ef3beb93da31ca03a0643951c594623df5f4fb670536a07614ea7c23053e4 vs http://blockexplorer.com/tx/001ef3beb93da31ca03a0643951c594623df5f4fb670536a07614ea7c23053e4	[18:53]
ozbot	Bitcoin Transaction 001ef3beb93da31ca03a0643951c594623df5f4fb670536a07614ea7c23053e4	[18:53]
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mircea_popescu	"hypothesis on why I think the real Sotoshi was found"	[18:54]
mircea_popescu	defonituly.	[18:54]
nubbins`	http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/female-westjet-pilot-posts-passenger-s-sexist-note-on-facebook-1.2559603	[18:55]
ozbot	Female WestJet pilot posts passenger's sexist note on Facebook - British Columbia - CBC News	[18:55]
kakobrekla	yeah, its not 100% from them, but likely	[18:55]
nubbins`	"I respectfully disagree with your opinion that the 'cockpit,' (we now call it the flight deck as no cocks are required), is no place for a lady. In fact, there are no places that are not for ladies anymore."	[18:55]
nubbins`	HAHAHAHA PLUS ONE	[18:55]
ThickAsThieves	mp, dr greg is calling you out https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=350103.msg5550181#msg5550181	[18:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 5 @ 0.04307995 = 0.2154 BTC [-] {2}	[18:57]
mircea_popescu	out of the cockpit ?	[18:57]
ThickAsThieves	more of an i-told-you-so	[18:58]
mircea_popescu	"Too funny. Despite the incoherence of his blog post, at least MP has finally stepped up and conceded the incompetence of his former approach to options market making. For finally admitting that and quitting the business of options market making without being adequately prepared, he deserves a positive acknowledgement."	[18:58]
mircea_popescu	derp ?	[18:58]
mircea_popescu	dude that moore idiot should have been shot.	[18:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.37038703 BTC to 3`597 shares, 65899 satoshi per share	[18:59]
mircea_popescu	because the us failed to execute him, the entire country is now full of losers who imagine that if they somehow pour drivel which happens to contain references to GM's CEO they somehow gain relevance.	[18:59]
kakobrekla	dexX7 apparently it was fixed, perhaps they are reading assets logs or something	[19:02]
dexX7	hehe	[19:02]
ThickAsThieves	someone should poke them to explain why it happened and won't happen again	[19:02]
kakobrekla	but it will!	[19:03]
ThickAsThieves	^ Cary ^	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	maybe they, you know, independently audit their own chainz	[19:04]
kakobrekla	the block was a week old	[19:04]
kakobrekla	or smth	[19:05]
mircea_popescu	900 confirms huh	[19:05]
mircea_popescu	yeah i guess.	[19:05]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04200299 = 0.126 BTC [-] {2}	[19:05]
kakobrekla	schrodingers blockchain	[19:06]
mircea_popescu	so today i woke up to the pirate sec deposition, and i had to interrupt my launch because some overqualified stripper went off the deep end in newsweek	[19:07]
mircea_popescu	the theory that three's a charm is kind-of giving me goosebumps atm.	[19:07]
mircea_popescu	s/launch/lunch	[19:07]
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lnovy	mircea_popescu: i've just read mpoe february 2014 statement and I cannot hold myself to tell you this: Good job.	[19:14]
kakobrekla	are you like dr gregs evil brother?	[19:15]
lnovy	i have my own asshole brother :)	[19:16]
kakobrekla	luxury	[19:19]
ThickAsThieves	i wonder how these AUR are being "air-dropped"	[19:21]
ThickAsThieves	in the mailbox? to be stolen?	[19:21]
mircea_popescu	lnovy ty.	[19:21]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves prolly some website thing	[19:22]
ThickAsThieves	"MazaCoin is a fork of ZetaCoin and unlike Bitcoin, is inflationary, making it possible for new coins to be mined over time."	[19:22]
ThickAsThieves	painful	[19:22]
ThickAsThieves	what is Asicminer mining then?	[19:23]
mircea_popescu	old coins	[19:23]
nubbins`	heh.	[19:23]
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mircea_popescu	what's an asshole brother lnovy ?!	[19:24]
lnovy	mircea_popescu: that was just a quick to-be-funny reaction	[19:25]
lnovy	i failed obviously	[19:25]
mircea_popescu	interesting concept nevertheless.	[19:26]
lnovy	indeed	[19:27]
ThickAsThieves	it's when you bump assholes with a guy, swapping anal cooties, making you asshole brothers	[19:30]
nubbins`	poop swap	[19:32]
nubbins`	like blood brothers	[19:32]
nubbins`	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS2QwKRhnds	[19:32]
ozbot	Ass to Ass Loop - Requiem for a Dream - YouTube	[19:32]
benkay	nubbins`: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_bacteriotherapy	[19:33]
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ThickAsThieves	http://gawker.com/a-letter-from-ray-jasper-who-is-about-to-be-executed-1536073598	[19:44]
ozbot	A Letter From Ray Jasper, Who Is About to Be Executed	[19:44]
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kakobrekla	http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=503566.0	[20:03]
ozbot	Safello launches complete redesign of website as it gears up for European expans	[20:03]
mircea_popescu	which one is this one ?	[20:03]
kakobrekla	>Safello announces a $600k investment round lead by prominent Bitcoin advocates Erik Voorhees and Roger Ver joined by Blockchain.info CEO Nicolas Cary and angel investors Victor & Victor. The Sweden based company also launches a complete redesign of their website to gear up for their European expansion as the safest way into Bitcoin.	[20:04]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves that thing is beyond fake.	[20:04]
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ThickAsThieves	the letter is fake?	[20:13]
mircea_popescu	unless you're telling me an unemployable black kid that supplemented his dole payments with robbery somehow went to vassar while in a texas jail.	[20:15]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5800001 BTC [+]	[20:15]
mircea_popescu	really badly written, too. "When I first responded to you, I didn't think that it would cause people to reach out to me and voice their opinions. I've never been on the internet in my life and I'm not fully aware of the social circles on the internet, so it was a surprise to receive reactions so quickly."	[20:17]
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ThickAsThieves	not sure it matters	[20:17]
ThickAsThieves	http://coinchomp.com/2014/03/06/journalist-harasses-man-believes-bitcoin-founder/	[20:17]
ozbot	Journalist Harrasses Man Believing Him to be Bitcoin Founder Satoshi Nakamoto - CoinChomp	[20:17]
mircea_popescu	"here's what some libertard that's been on the internet all her lyf thinks a guy who's not would say"	[20:17]
ThickAsThieves	maybe he has a mentor, i dunno	[20:18]
mircea_popescu	yeah. a mentor that's never talked to anyone who's not online.	[20:21]
mircea_popescu	nor gives a shit about anything but how the story should read for maximal impact in the mouthbreather herd.	[20:21]
deadweasel	^ this is what I saw in this and the first letter.	[20:26]
deadweasel	it's as if the anti death penalty league wrote it	[20:26]
mike_c	he slit the guy's throat. but the guy didn't die and his accomplice finished him off.	[20:27]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC	[20:29]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23003 @ 0.00087007 = 20.0142 BTC [+]	[20:38]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.60181866 = 3.0091 BTC [+] {5}	[20:44]
dexX7	https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffirstmonday.org%2Fojs%2Findex.php%2Ffm%2Farticle%2FviewFile%2F474%2F830%2F5678&t=537&c=FLUTTcM5qE6Bcw looky, allegedly from 1995	[20:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 124 @ 0.63307968 = 78.5019 BTC [+] {31}	[20:45]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.65 = 5.2 BTC [+]	[20:46]
dexX7	boom	[20:46]
benkay`	dexX7: mystical buttcorns	[20:47]
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ThickAsThieves	dats a lotta AM	[20:48]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 13 @ 0.64846153 = 8.43 BTC [-] {6}	[20:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [+]	[20:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 75 @ 0.00574967 = 0.4312 BTC [+] {4}	[20:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 730 @ 0.00435204 = 3.177 BTC [+] {9}	[20:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 150 @ 0.00438863 = 0.6583 BTC [+] {15}	[20:58]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 30 @ 0.00438915 = 0.1317 BTC [+] {4}	[20:59]
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the20year2	RENT will start trading/non-IPO trading tomorrow around noon	[21:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.07488998 = 0.674 BTC [-] {2}	[21:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07489405 = 0.4494 BTC [+] {3}	[21:12]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.00574988 = 1.725 BTC [-] {4}	[21:12]
benkay`	how much of a selloff are you expecting, the20year2?	[21:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0863266 = 0.259 BTC [+] {2}	[21:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 617 @ 0.00574993 = 3.5477 BTC [+]	[21:15]
mike_c	;;calc (78534-24564)*0.0055	[21:16]
gribble	296.835	[21:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00444777 = 0.1557 BTC [+]	[21:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 635 @ 0.00574995 = 3.6512 BTC [+] {2}	[21:16]
benkay`	!t h rent	[21:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (674 shares, 3.70700000 BTC), 7D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (11826 shares, 65.04300000 BTC), 30D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (53970 shares, 296.83500000 BTC)	[21:16]
mike_c	300 btc. not sure what to make of that.	[21:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00575 = 0.46 BTC [+]	[21:17]
benkay`	the20year2: are you willing to lend me some shares?	[21:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.00579947 = 0.2958 BTC [+] {4}	[21:18]
the20year2	Depends on how much money you send me	[21:19]
the20year2	Benkay, i'm expecting price to rise to .006 or .007	[21:19]
mircea_popescu	o.O	[21:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 47 @ 0.0055 = 0.2585 BTC	[21:20]
benkay`	i'll put collateral on deposit with someone, not you	[21:20]
benkay`	maybe i just want to do a bitbet	[21:20]
the20year2	You were the one asking for handouts :D	[21:20]
benkay`	hey, watch your mouth.	[21:20]
benkay`	i will collateralize.	[21:20]
benkay`	ThickAsThieves: ping	[21:21]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [COG] 16 @ 0.04399999 = 0.704 BTC [-] {2}	[21:21]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.00589 = 0.1414 BTC [+]	[21:21]
benkay`	the20year2: assume i have btc and can collateralize a position. are you willing to lend me shares?	[21:22]
mike_c	what are you going to do with them? you can't sell them until ipo is off. tough to short if it gaps down.	[21:23]
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the20year2	I guess so? You'd have to send me more details	[21:23]
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the20year2	IPO ends tomorrow at noon	[21:25]
benkay`	mike_c: pm	[21:25]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1088 @ 0.00446484 = 4.8577 BTC [+] {9}	[21:29]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 912 @ 0.00449559 = 4.1 BTC [+] {4}	[21:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [SFI] 400 @ 0.00089565 = 0.3583 BTC [+] {2}	[21:31]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.6466 = 1.9398 BTC [-] {2}	[21:33]
r3wt	;;bcauth	[21:34]
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r3wt	;;bcauth r3wt	[21:34]
gribble	Request successful for user r3wt, hostmask r3wt!add82c3d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.216.44.61. Your challenge string is: freenode:#bitcoin-otc:7022ce55a1580f78f4ef9c40738c3eb47ee2495c1571a59ea183aedd	[21:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00589786 = 0.3539 BTC [+] {4}	[21:34]
B007	well this guy http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/03/bitcoin-creator-satoshi-nakamoto-revealed-after-years-of-mystery/ lives 2 hours away from me	[21:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.0059585 = 0.2383 BTC [+] {2}	[21:35]
B007	I wonder if people will start showing up at his house now asking for bitcoin	[21:36]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.645 BTC [-]	[21:37]
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Phraust	or with $5 wrenches.	[21:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 96 @ 0.00449998 = 0.432 BTC [+] {4}	[21:39]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 230 @ 0.00449999 = 1.035 BTC [+]	[21:40]
B007	I'm temped to show up myself lol	[21:41]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 37 @ 0.07000012 = 2.59 BTC [-] {4}	[21:41]
deadweasel	no.	[21:42]
B007	ok	[21:43]
mike_c	no point. either he is the guy and deserves some respect, or he isn't and you're annoying some stranger	[21:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07 = 0.49 BTC [-] {2}	[21:48]
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dexX7	http://www.coindesk.com/bitstamp-audit-proves-behind-147m-mystery-bitcoin-wallet/	[21:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 29 @ 0.0055 = 0.1595 BTC	[21:56]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 118 @ 0.00555319 = 0.6553 BTC [+] {3}	[21:58]
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dexX7	at that time about 20-25k btc were on the books.. wouldn't have assumed that there was so much sleeping money/coins x.x	[21:59]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.07599992 = 0.608 BTC [+]	[22:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC	[22:00]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 72 @ 0.0055 = 0.396 BTC	[22:01]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.07798294 = 1.8716 BTC [+] {5}	[22:01]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 444 @ 0.0045 = 1.998 BTC [+]	[22:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 32 @ 0.66514997 = 21.2848 BTC [+] {14}	[22:17]
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pLambert	what is S.MNKY going to be?	[22:19]
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nubbins`	a barrel of fun?	[22:20]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 219 @ 0.0055 = 1.2045 BTC	[22:21]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 103 @ 0.00598999 = 0.617 BTC [+] {6}	[22:27]
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mike_c	s.mnky is going to implement the infinite monkey protocol.	[22:27]
mike_c	http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2795.txt	[22:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00598999 = 0.4792 BTC [+] {3}	[22:28]
jurov	prolly ends up as reference RFC implementation	[22:29]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.67 = 1.34 BTC [+]	[22:30]
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jurov	mircea_popescu: consider asking MPOE-PR to announce on trolltalk that S.MNKY is hiring :DDD	[22:31]
rithm	hi	[22:32]
nubbins`	jcpham was a better nick	[22:32]
rithm	yo mam	[22:33]
rithm	a	[22:33]
nubbins`	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPM1q_Uyxc	[22:33]
ozbot	Rhythm is a dancer - YouTube	[22:33]
mike_c	genius jurov. put the forum to good use for once.	[22:33]
rithm	satoshi convinced me	[22:33]
ThickAsThieves	sup benkay	[22:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 18 @ 0.00599999 = 0.108 BTC [+]	[22:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07999397 = 0.24 BTC [+]	[22:35]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 102 @ 0.0055 = 0.561 BTC	[22:43]
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nubbins`	i forgot how much i like skinny puppy	[22:46]
nubbins`	some of their earlier shit is insane	[22:46]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.005999 = 0.12 BTC [-]	[22:47]
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mircea_popescu	jurov lol maybe an idea	[22:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 37 @ 0.00449991 = 0.1665 BTC [-]	[22:49]
mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/776/light-sweet-crude-oil-wti-jan-2015-over/#c2568	[22:51]
ozbot	BitBet - Light Sweet Crude Oil (WTI) Jan 2015 over $200 at any point in 2014	[22:51]
mircea_popescu	today in "Bitcoin People Are Insane" :	[22:52]
mircea_popescu	guy that has no idea how to work cmegroup.com wants to bet on the oil price	[22:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 115 @ 0.00449991 = 0.5175 BTC [-]	[22:53]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 69 @ 0.00449991 = 0.3105 BTC [-]	[23:02]
ThickAsThieves	We Are All Bitcoin https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/?p=510	[23:02]
ThickAsThieves	"Everyone who is involved in Bitcoin understands the strength of the design." do they?	[23:03]
nubbins`	depends on your definition of "involved" :D	[23:03]
ThickAsThieves	bleh, buncha hot air text	[23:03]
ThickAsThieves	TLDR	[23:04]
mircea_popescu	garzik trying to undo piles of piled idiocy.	[23:04]
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nubbins`	twist: leah mcgrath goodman is satoshi nakamoto	[23:04]
ThickAsThieves	and married to John Goodman	[23:05]
Namworld	Well I hear government backing of a fiat currency gives value, but faith does not give innate value to a fiat like BTC. Apparently if I disagree and claim both are fiat, without innate value and purely faith based valuation, I don't know what I'm talking about.	[23:05]
Namworld	It's nice to know only faith in government counts.	[23:05]
mircea_popescu	you're preachin' to the choir.	[23:05]
ThickAsThieves	"Jeff Garzik is an engineer, blogger, futurist and entrepreneur. "	[23:06]
nubbins`	futurist!	[23:06]
ThickAsThieves	how do i become a futurisy?	[23:06]
Namworld	I know.	[23:06]
ThickAsThieves	t	[23:06]
nubbins`	first step is to become a wizard	[23:06]
ThickAsThieves	can i also be a pastist	[23:06]
nubbins`	second step is to call yourself a futurist instead of a wizard	[23:06]
ThickAsThieves	or a presenist	[23:06]
ThickAsThieves	t	[23:06]
nubbins`	pastists are called throwbacks	[23:06]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves pastits are the guys who attack the pasties to the tits.	[23:07]
nubbins`	or codgers if they're really good at it	[23:07]
jurov	not 1337 enough.. should be phuturist instead	[23:07]
nubbins`	attack with scissors	[23:07]
mircea_popescu	or maybe a fartist	[23:07]
mircea_popescu	like a far seeing fart artist	[23:07]
nubbins`	god DAMN there are some good smells coming up the stairs	[23:07]
mircea_popescu	!b 2	[23:07]
assbot	Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1695879/plain/)	[23:07]
nubbins`	i've been boiling some pork bones for 4 hours now	[23:08]
nubbins`	i suspect p just lifted the lid to stir	[23:08]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 50 @ 0.0055 = 0.275 BTC	[23:09]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 120 @ 0.0055 = 0.66 BTC	[23:11]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00599 = 0.1198 BTC [-]	[23:14]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.63000201 = 1.26 BTC [-]	[23:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04250006 = 0.1275 BTC [-] {2}	[23:21]
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mircea_popescu	http://i.imgur.com/3aGHJHc.jpg	[23:22]
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nubbins`	would wear	[23:25]
mircea_popescu	;p;	[23:25]
mircea_popescu	http://i.imgur.com/575U3WI.gif	[23:28]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 912 @ 0.00052059 = 0.4748 BTC [-] {6}	[23:35]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 204 @ 0.0055 = 1.122 BTC {2}	[23:37]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC	[23:41]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07249999 = 0.725 BTC [+]	[23:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [RENT] 65 @ 0.0055 = 0.3575 BTC	[23:42]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.07260011 = 0.6534 BTC [+] {2}	[23:46]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 20 @ 0.00519874 = 0.104 BTC [-]	[23:54]
BingoBoingo	Is S.MNKY hiring a futurist?	[23:59]

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