Forum logs for 06 Mar 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
Mats_cd03 someone in this channel could write the book [00:01]
Mats_cd03 whichever of you has been here the longest and is unemployed [00:01]
deadweasel ummm, there might be a few more requirements [00:02]
deadweasel mpoe-pr should do it along with all her other womanly duties. [00:02]
Mats_cd03 sounds like a shit job [00:03]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 145 @ 0.00433449 = 0.6285 BTC [-] {8} [00:03]
deadweasel lol, affliate program: http://www.idiotsguidetobitcoin.com/ [00:03]
Mats_cd03 who wants to read forum comments by teenagers for hours as research [00:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2055 @ 0.00421645 = 8.6648 BTC [-] {14} [00:04]
deadweasel definitely not this guy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183728.0 [00:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3358 @ 0.00082903 = 2.7839 BTC [+] [00:05]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 3832 @ 0.00410031 = 15.7124 BTC [-] {12} [00:06]
Mats_cd03 a topic-specific book would definitely be good though [00:06]
Mats_cd03 i think the community needs it [00:07]
Mats_cd03 something cohesive like "bitcoin personal security for dummies" [00:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2048 @ 0.00401424 = 8.2212 BTC [-] {8} [00:07]
deadweasel oh man, this thing is dead to me already. i have the log. fuck it. [00:07]
deadweasel no time for bookmaking of anykind. [00:08]
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Mats_cd03 id write it if making books was a profitable activity [00:09]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 772 @ 0.00400015 = 3.0881 BTC [-] {7} [00:12]
mircea_popescu there is no such thing as security for dummies [00:13]
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mircea_popescu what's next, dating for the narcisistic and hygiene for the lazy ? [00:13]
mike_c BingoBoingo already wrote that. [00:13]
mike_c http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/pgpgpg-guide/ [00:13]
ozbot PGP/GPG Guide | Bingo Blog [00:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 15000 @ 0.004 = 60 BTC [-] [00:13]
mike_c print it, bind it, become rich. [00:14]
GNULinuxGuy has there been some news about neobee recently or something? [00:15]
mircea_popescu notrly. [00:15]
asciilifeform a physicist (forget which) who took to writing 'general interest' books, was told by his publisher 'every equation you throw in will cut sales in half' [00:16]
asciilifeform (might've been penrose, now that i think about it) [00:16]
GNULinuxGuy buy op? ;) [00:16]
mircea_popescu unless you count stuff like http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-03-2014#539868 [00:16]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform so the first 1-200 are the hardest then [00:16]
mircea_popescu after that's smooth sailin'. [00:17]
asciilifeform ahaha [00:17]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: If the text in question was http://www.roadsolutions.ox.ac.uk/ I have it sitting on a shelf [00:18]
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asciilifeform yeah might've been that one [00:18]
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BingoBoingo It kept an adequate number of equations for a book with chapter titles like "Manifolds of n dimensions" [00:21]
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asciilifeform BingoBoingo: this tome will not be burying Landau, but it's an acceptable bait to whet an amateur's interest, i'd imagine. [00:22]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Probably. Is an interesting read. [00:24]
asciilifeform which one of you people spoke of reading landau in french? was it mp? [00:24]
mircea_popescu prolly. [00:27]
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kakobrekla https://static.pinboard.in/webstock_2014.htm [00:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.00574989 = 0.1092 BTC [+] {3} [00:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 61 @ 0.00399979 = 0.244 BTC [-] {2} [00:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.07699999 = 0.231 BTC [-] [00:34]
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bitcoinpete http://mashable.com/2014/03/05/snowden-phone/?utm_cid=mash-com-Tw-main-link [00:35]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: good intro. [00:35]
ozbot The 'Snowden Phone' Will Encrypt All Your Calls and Texts [00:35]
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bitcoinpete Still Samsung, so how do they unroot? [00:36]
asciilifeform re: phone: zimmerman was 'lowered into pederasty' [00:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00574999 = 0.1437 BTC [+] [00:37]
asciilifeform eventually i will deal with this subject in writing, unless mp takes up this chore in my place. [00:37]
asciilifeform lev termen was a true inventor [00:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2642 @ 0.0008275 = 2.1863 BTC [-] [00:39]
asciilifeform no one alive today is even fit to suck his decomposed cocke [00:39]
asciilifeform at least, with regards to invention [00:39]
bitcoinpete cool [00:42]
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asciilifeform he's #2 on my list of folks who probably had the waveguide motor. (after the obvious candidate nick t.) [00:49]
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bitcoinpete http://bitcoinpete.com/2014/early-classical-revival-websites-do-not-a-bitcoin-bank-make/ [00:51]
ozbot Early Classical Revival Websites Do Not A Bitcoin Bank Make | When Bitcoin Met Pete [00:51]
bitcoinpete On the recent Flexcoin oopsie. He's a local kid, met him a few months back. [00:51]
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jborkl Went to the bitcoin conference today, figured might as well since it is here at home [00:54]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu, others: if you think that the enemy is foolish, and has no plan, this is a dangerous mistake: he is clever and knows the ancient chinese formula 'Yi yi zhi yi' (以夷治夷 ?) - 'control the barbarians using barbarians.' [00:55]
jborkl Don't worry, no one missed anything [00:55]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [07:06]
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mircea_popescu sooo pirate named names huh. [07:06]
Duffer1 vegas conference attendees as far as i saw /didn't read the whole thing though [07:07]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04279995 = 0.1284 BTC [+] {2} [07:08]
benkay some preferential treatment disclosed. [07:08]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/486/james-gibson-aka-gigavps-to-be-named-as/ [07:08]
ozbot BitBet - James Gibson aka gigavps to be named as Pirate ponzi scheme fraudulent beneficiary [07:08]
benkay hey mircea_popescu is Vandroidy still around? [07:08]
mircea_popescu that should be quite interesting. [07:08]
mircea_popescu benkay sort-of. [07:08]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell jborkl shocking, i tell ya. [07:09]
benkay sort-of? [07:09]
gribble The operation succeeded. [07:09]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell gigavps how's it going scammer boy ? [07:09]
gribble The operation succeeded. [07:09]
BingoBoingo lol [07:09]
mircea_popescu idiot. [07:09]
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BingoBoingo Just think, time machine and you could have killed BTCST in November 2011 [07:10]
mircea_popescu you mean april. [07:10]
BingoBoingo Maybe even April 2011 for 500BTC [07:10]
mircea_popescu o 2011. heh. [07:10]
mircea_popescu you know i wasn't even there ;/ [07:10]
BingoBoingo But then you'd miss Harnet [07:10]
mircea_popescu what do you want from me, i only showed up that summer [07:10]
mircea_popescu takes someone A FEW MONTHS to catch up and spread the roots you know ? [07:11]
mircea_popescu kinda how i ended up with "6 months". if it took me ~3... [07:11]
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BingoBoingo Oh, if only S.TimeMachine was a thing [07:12]
mircea_popescu anyway, BingoBoingo : if i HAD done that, for all the laurels and glory (which no noobs can be bothered to even know about, so... it doesn't help THEM) the "community" of fucktards would have actually fallen for a much bigger ponzi much later, [07:12]
mircea_popescu that i'd have been equally powerless to do anything about [07:12]
BingoBoingo Eh, much later ponzi might have taught more [07:13]
mircea_popescu because the scammer would have said "this time it's different", and the way the primate brain works that'd have been enough. [07:13]
mircea_popescu so... ironically it'd have been a lot worse for everyone. [07:13]
BingoBoingo These are the reasons I drink to consult my lizard brain [07:13]
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mircea_popescu heh [07:13]
benkay oh, there won't be any more ponzi's in bitcoin? [07:13]
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mircea_popescu benkay yes, there will be. just copumpkin won't be whitenighting them. [07:14]
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mircea_popescu which obviously i mean in a general manner. well meaning but naive geeks will know to defer that time [07:14]
mircea_popescu as they didn't previously. [07:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39711 @ 0.00082727 = 32.8517 BTC [+] [07:15]
benkay if not last season's socks, a new seasons. what's the actual difference? [07:16]
mircea_popescu no, there's a difference. [07:16]
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mircea_popescu bitcoin is non inflationary. this makes early things dwarf late things in importance. [07:16]
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mircea_popescu anyway, funny how this guy's brain works. so he gets summoned, and he responds. *then* he feigns to ignore further proceedings. [07:17]
mircea_popescu which, as you pointed out, is real fucking smart. and now he actually responds. [07:17]
mircea_popescu possibly worst legal strategy of the century award. [07:18]
benkay twitter 'strategy' [07:18]
Duffer1 that and going it without representation [07:18]
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benkay mircea_popescu would have you believe representation is for the weak of mind, Duffer1 [07:18]
Duffer1 and admitting to not reading the subpeona where it asks him to retain certain information.. [07:19]
mircea_popescu benkay wait what ?! [07:19]
mircea_popescu o o nm i read it backwards. yes, it is. and yes, he is. so... [07:19]
mircea_popescu ahahahaah o jesus god, "do you know reeses_ name ?" "art. a-r-t" "and last name ?" "i have no idea" [07:20]
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mircea_popescu "and do you watch seinfeld ?" "yes i do!" "do you understand anything ?" "well as much as anyone on the forum ever understands of what's going on before their eyes [07:20]
mircea_popescu " [07:21]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: It took the SEC dude to throw out Giga's last name [07:21]
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mircea_popescu what was it, "llc" ? [07:21]
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mircea_popescu hay folks my name is james llc, for srs. let's do some business which then i'll pretend is covered by the company named after me. [07:22]
BingoBoingo lol [07:22]
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benkay didja get to "business cognition"? [07:22]
mircea_popescu because that is totally how limited liability works, you hafta not disclose it and misrepresent it to be shielded. [07:23]
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mircea_popescu benkay i'm not reading that shit, just got some parts sent over [07:23]
mircea_popescu why, is it that good ? [07:23]
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benkay it's what he owes his father or uncle some money for [07:24]
benkay http://www.linkedin.com/company/business-cognition [07:24]
ozbot Business Cognition | LinkedIn [07:24]
benkay resolving to http://www.buscog.com/ [07:24]
mircea_popescu heh. [07:24]
mircea_popescu you know it makes you wonder aboput the united states. [07:24]
mircea_popescu in that you know, twentysomethings end up in troubkel all over the world, by virtue of being kids [07:24]
mircea_popescu but they customarily hide their stupidity from family and esp senior male relatives [07:25]
mircea_popescu in the us tho, it's backwards, they do it as a joint venture. so are there no males in that country over the mental age of ~17 or what the fuck ? [07:25]
mircea_popescu i mean i used to think it's only the case for poor black people, lil wayne and whatnot. then i thought it's only the case for poor people generally. now i'm starting to think its simply what the murican male is. the us culture, if you will. [07:26]
BingoBoingo Of the two parts of the Pirate at 40 shit, part one is definitely the lulzier one [07:26]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo or whoever feels like it : why not make a curated version on yer blogs ? [07:27]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: It is too old for me to provide solid context. [07:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 25 @ 0.004041 = 0.101 BTC [-] [07:27]
mircea_popescu (the hidden benefit here is this : through curating it you expose your unknowledge to scrutiny, ie, if you cut out something that turns out to have been important you get to learn it was, and so fix your head) [07:28]
benkay i've published some bits. [07:28]
BingoBoingo I really haven't found unimportant bits yet. [07:28]
mircea_popescu benkay ya but it has to be exhaustive for the thing to work, otherwise the narcissist self always cops out to "Well it was just some bits". and besides, weren't you coding ? [07:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 6 @ 0.0428 = 0.2568 BTC [+] [07:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.004041 = 0.2425 BTC [-] [07:28]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo well then that's also illustrative :D [07:29]
benkay should be yeah [07:29]
BingoBoingo There's stupid from both Pirate and the SEC stooge [07:29]
BingoBoingo Eastern District of Texas is a BTC no mans land [07:30]
chetty hmm I wonder, the SEC seems to be trying to imply that BigOne and #2 were the same person, wonder if they have somethiing there? If either one actually existed of course [07:30]
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benkay there's a pretty hilarious interchange where Shavers says something retarded and the stooge asks "you're getting a job at support dot com, right?" [07:30]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 22 @ 0.0055 = 0.121 BTC [07:31]
joecool benkay: when i saw that i remembered noted other OTC scammer aethero works at support.com [07:32]
BingoBoingo chetty: I think SEC is trying to trap that BIg One and Number two are figments of Pirate's imagination [07:32]
joecool those two are probably BFF's [07:32]
BingoBoingo joecool: They might be the same [07:32]
joecool aethero sure had a lot of figments of his imagination [07:33]
HeySteve I linked to MPOE-PR's Bitcoin Foundation thread, I think it's good they get called to account [07:33]
joecool aethero still has great trust :P [07:33]
joecool ;;gettrust aethero [07:33]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user joecool to user aethero: Level 1: -10, Level 2: 3 via 18 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=joecool&dest=aethero | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=aethero | Rated since: Wed May 2 19:24:52 2012 [07:33]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo by the way, an important point : the reason the "media" sucks is not that they've sold out or follow external policies or w/e. it's that they are writing WITH THEIR READER IN MIND. the former then flows from this naturally, but it does not make a difference if you write with the reader in mind so as to advertise to it, or save its soul or merely inform it. it's all the same, and it's wrong. [07:34]
mircea_popescu write for yourself, as your own thing. think of it as picking up women : you don't puick up women by picking up women, you pick up women by doing *any other thing* [07:34]
mircea_popescu joecool course in fairness aethero is more like noted lunatic. [07:35]
mircea_popescu and he doesn't seem to have that great trust neh ? [07:36]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust aethero [07:36]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user aethero: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 17 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=aethero | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=aethero | Rated since: Wed May 2 19:24:52 2012 [07:36]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well it turn out this n00b sports betting guide is turning in to a bunch of parts I need to organize for my own benefit. [07:36]
BingoBoingo A good portion of it is already in the logs [07:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 308 @ 0.004041 = 1.2446 BTC [-] [07:36]
mircea_popescu a ok, that works too. [07:37]
benkay heh i saw EV- and moved on [07:37]
BingoBoingo It's just the machine language of the lizard brain I consult for bets is rather dense. [07:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7150 @ 0.00082658 = 5.91 BTC [-] [07:38]
BingoBoingo benkay: SOme bets can be plus EV, It is just there is a 2+ month wait between those. [07:38]
benkay i'm already long bitcoin [07:38]
benkay seems crazy enough for this decade [07:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 53 @ 0.004041 = 0.2142 BTC [-] {2} [07:39]
BingoBoingo Gambling as entertainment and Gambling as pseudo-investment are very different things. [07:39]
mircea_popescu gesus god check out asciilifeform being quotable : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2014#548251 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2014#548254 [07:39]
mircea_popescu it's like he's on a roll [07:39]
BingoBoingo As a mentioned a while ago the best reason to bet on an outcome is to make the watching it more enjoyable [07:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 459 @ 0.004041 = 1.8548 BTC [-] {2} [07:40]
BingoBoingo Yeah asciilifeform has been so quatable today [07:40]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: even linked http://i.imgur.com/hKk5a77.jpg [07:41]
mircea_popescu im totally stealing this and publishing it myself. [07:41]
mircea_popescu it's too good. [07:42]
BingoBoingo lol [07:42]
mircea_popescu cads so ask. [07:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00082727 = 1.9027 BTC [+] [07:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 54 @ 0.004041 = 0.2182 BTC [-] [07:44]
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Duffer1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=502567.0 [07:46]
ozbot Project Abro [07:46]
Duffer1 "Whatever I talk, I do with you, for you must benefit you. Further, the funds you spend on my way to be purposefully utilized." [07:46]
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benkay ABROOOOOO [07:46]
benkay amazing [07:46]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [07:46]
Namworld Buzzword cesspool? [07:47]
Duffer1 omg [07:47]
Duffer1 i can't even describe that post [07:48]
Namworld High as fuck? [07:48]
cads haha, I like it [07:48]
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Namworld Mental institute fugitive? [07:49]
cads I"m reading it in alec baldwin's voice. [07:49]
Duffer1 lol [07:49]
benkay Most of the time people can't express their feelings. It has to be thrown out. Once it is thrown out, he/she feels light and refreshed. [07:49]
benkay This is the kind of service I'm offering here. [07:49]
benkay Consider me representing the one who troubled you, or I'm the situation that made you into trouble. [07:49]
benkay You might have to throw out all your frustrations, feelings etc. [07:49]
mircea_popescu maybe we're finally seeing markov chain ipos [07:49]
benkay I will get in touch with you in skype. [07:49]
benkay Scold me, spit at me, and express all of your feelings. Use all the filthy words as you can. Once you have done, your mind is filtered out with all the frustrations. [07:49]
benkay Your life will become beautiful. You get enormous energy. You will succeed in all your activities then. [07:49]
benkay Still, again someone will trouble you. Come again, take my skype session and spit at me. You will feel better. [07:49]
benkay While chatting if your feelings are very strong, I may scream for you. Don't stop, continue till the session ends. [07:49]
Duffer1 it's an ipo for a pyramid scam that's also a futures bond and a cult [07:49]
benkay If you are not in a desire to spit at me, you may even let your neighbor/friend or anyone to utilize the service and spit at me. [07:49]
benkay i think this is something the forum needs to be chumpatron'd with [07:49]
mircea_popescu Duffer1 sounds just about descriptive of the moss that's in between average joe's ears. [07:50]
Duffer1 i can't agree this time, this is a special kind of fail [07:50]
cads hahaha [07:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.004041 = 1.2123 BTC [-] [07:51]
Namworld Abro is love, Abro is life. All praise Abro. [07:51]
Namworld Is he ipoing the universe? He's ipoing the universe. [07:52]
BingoBoingo https://twitter.com/RealCarrotFacts/status/441416835976925184 [07:53]
ozbot Twitter / RealCarrotFacts: Carrot taste good even if you ... [07:53]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6586 @ 0.00082658 = 5.4439 BTC [-] [07:54]
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benkay abro akbar [07:59]
BingoBoingo lol [08:00]
BingoBoingo Anyone else see SVU tonight? [08:00]
moiety wtaf is that post?! i like the mandatory note for "the service" [08:00]
moiety the btctalk one ^ [08:01]
Duffer1 the whole thread so far is fucking brilliant [08:01]
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BingoBoingo http://www.examiner.com/article/feline-internet-sensation-colonel-meow-dies [08:03]
ozbot Feline Internet sensation Colonel Meow dies - Chicago Cats | Examiner.com [08:03]
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benkay i just realized that we have b-list feline internet celebrites [08:07]
BingoBoingo benkay: We do indeed [08:07]
benkay okay i get it mircea_popescu a penny from every human on earth makes for pathological everything [08:07]
mircea_popescu waitwat? [08:07]
benkay pennies from everyone and spears and such [08:08]
mircea_popescu i think you all've been cooped in here too long, and you're approaching some sort of mystical breakthrough of which i'm sadly left out :( [08:08]
benkay britney spears [08:09]
moiety how has there been a webz cat i didn't know about :o [08:10]
BingoBoingo Eh, in about 8 hours I'm driving 200 miles for a decent lunch. Well, maybe a bit more than 8 hours from nao. Depends how long I am passed out. [08:10]
moiety 200 miles :o [08:11]
moiety its not icy is it? [08:11]
BingoBoingo moiety: Not icy atm, just driving 200 miles for 15 minutes of errand and lunch. [08:12]
moiety oh god have you seen arscoin? [08:12]
BingoBoingo If only Dooglus ran this casino http://gawker.com/gambler-sues-casino-over-the-500-000-he-lost-while-bla-1537450594 [08:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 500 @ 0.004041 = 2.0205 BTC [-] [08:13]
moiety http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/03/behold-arscoin-our-own-custom-cryptocurrency/ [08:13]
ozbot Behold Arscoin, our own custom cryptocurrency | Ars Technica [08:13]
moiety wut [08:13]
benkay old nooz [08:13]
benkay also webwallet onry i hear [08:14]
BingoBoingo Premined scam [08:14]
moiety but but you can buy a gold username! [08:14]
moiety wtaf [08:14]
moiety is the GnuTLS bug old news too? im so slow [08:15]
benkay mhm [08:16]
benkay hey moiety have you heard about the multicoin wallet? [08:16]
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benkay they herd u liek crypto and obfuscated the source so they can steal your coins while you doge [08:16]
moiety i heard they were wanting to make one but i didn't know it had come to fruition [08:18]
benkay http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/03/05_multicoinwallet-considered-harmful.html [08:18]
ozbot MultiCoinWallet: Considered Harmful [08:18]
benkay not to imply you yourself are a thick sucker [08:20]
benkay you're in -assets, after all. [08:20]
benkay an assette! [08:20]
moiety lol i like it [08:23]
moiety the wallet not so much, good article. i wouldn't have touched it with someone else's anyways [08:23]
moiety ha i like the next one too [08:25]
moiety you need a subscribing list [08:25]
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BingoBoingo benkay is good at turning out the really pointed messages [08:26]
moiety he is very to-the-point, which = win [08:26]
moiety that lol [08:27]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform kakobrekla cazalla http://trilema.com/2014/hi-this-is-the-article-title/ [08:27]
mircea_popescu benkay ah ah yes. [08:27]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 3000 @ 0.00089005 = 2.6702 BTC [-] {2} [08:28]
Duffer1 http://www.extremetech.com/computing/177882-massive-linux-security-flaw-dwarfs-apples-cryptography-problems-of-just-last-week [08:29]
ozbot Massive Linux security flaw dwarfs Apple’s cryptography problems of just last week | ExtremeTech [08:29]
mircea_popescu yeh was here last week but worth repeating. [08:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1717 @ 0.00396239 = 6.8034 BTC [-] {10} [08:30]
moiety i just heard of it today too [08:30]
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BingoBoingo Oh, Archer mentioned Bitcoin this week [08:32]
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mircea_popescu which archer [08:32]
Duffer1 tv show [08:33]
mircea_popescu "Allowing drunk patrons to gamble and serving obviously intoxicated patrons are both illegal under Nevada law. Johnston's lawyer says his client's story is bolstered by surveillance video and eyewitness testimony." [08:33]
mircea_popescu this is actually a bit of a problem, people can sit down at their computer drunk as fuck and think hye, gamble my whole wallet on dice! [08:34]
mircea_popescu obviously not the dice site's problem, but also kind-of dangerous for the random idiot. [08:34]
BingoBoingo And this is why Dice suck. [08:34]
mircea_popescu well maybe. [08:34]
mike_c because you've never blown money on sports while drunk ;) [08:35]
mircea_popescu tbh i think dices have a future, but as backing for other services. they're currently exposed to the general public becaus e whatever, we're in the pdp and vax days over here. [08:35]
mircea_popescu but generally speaking, the dice model is the engine that can power a lot of cool applications down the road. [08:35]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 204 @ 0.00386019 = 0.7875 BTC [-] {3} [08:35]
BingoBoingo mike_c: Actually totally plaster in sports have offered much better returns than sober and axious [08:36]
mircea_popescu i wonder if the same is true of the players. [08:36]
mike_c it is at least more fun [08:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 39 @ 0.0038518 = 0.1502 BTC [-] {2} [08:36]
mircea_popescu i wonder if superbowl/whatever advertising sports will eventualyl run out of money so bad they'll add new rules such as "each player must drink twelve shots of vodka before going on the field" [08:37]
BingoBoingo I've only had one huge gambling loss totally plastered. [08:37]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 390 @ 0.00385512 = 1.5035 BTC [+] {3} [08:37]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: They might. For football it might be necessary. Actually the biggest PED among handegg players I've seen is the ganja. [08:38]
cazalla mircea_popescu: can i put that mention on my resume? seriously though, there is much to learn here for someone like me [08:38]
mircea_popescu cazalla lol sure. [08:38]
mircea_popescu whatever you do to your resume it can't end up worse than that exchange expert guy from a while back [08:38]
BingoBoingo Seriously, baseball's saving grace is it mixes the randomness of dice with the potential for talent [08:41]
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BingoBoingo Hashtag! DangerZone [08:45]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.0039 = 1.17 BTC [+] [08:54]
mircea_popescu please allow me to spam : [08:55]
mircea_popescu Q: Next account, Gigavps, is this a true and accurate reflection of Gigavps' account history with Bitcoin Savings & Trust from on or about April 3rd, 2012 through on or about August 22, 2012 ? [08:55]
mircea_popescu A: No. [08:55]
mircea_popescu Q: What stands out at you as being incorrect? [08:55]
mircea_popescu A: I'll just know I used it a lot. [08:55]
mircea_popescu Q: For what? [08:55]
mircea_popescu A: For moving transactions. [08:55]
mircea_popescu Q: Meaning for Bitcoin Savings & Trust Investment transactions? [08:55]
mircea_popescu A: Yes. And he had a separate account that was a hidden account. [08:55]
mircea_popescu Q: A hidden account? [08:55]
mircea_popescu A: Yes. [08:55]
mircea_popescu Q: What do you mean by that? [08:55]
mircea_popescu A: Just an account used for basically his own lending account. They borrow coins real quickly to make cash transactions and stuff. [08:55]
mircea_popescu Q: From you? [08:55]
mircea_popescu A: Correct. [08:55]
mircea_popescu Q: What was his user name on that account? [08:55]
mircea_popescu A: I guess Gigavps, but it wasn't on Bitcoin Savings & Trust. [08:55]
mircea_popescu Q: Why doesn't it appear in this raw data? [08:55]
mircea_popescu A: Because it wasn't on there. It wasn't on this database or on this website. It was tracked through a - what was that - not Sales Force. I can't remember the name of the website. It was something we just worked out together. And it has a lot of his transactions. This account looks mostly like my stuff. [08:55]
mircea_popescu Q: Meaning -- [08:55]
mircea_popescu A: 2002 -- [08:55]
mircea_popescu Q: What do you mean by "my stuff"? [08:55]
mircea_popescu A: And then $500 deposit from Imsaguy? [08:55]
mircea_popescu Q: What do you mean "my stuff"? [08:55]
mircea_popescu A: Core stuff. This isn't all -- [08:55]
mircea_popescu Q: You mean Bitcoin Savings & Trust investment activity? [08:55]
mircea_popescu A: This isn't all of the transactions there. [08:55]
mircea_popescu Q: Next account, Goat. [08:55]
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BingoBoingo Oh, and copumpkin was the doxxed one [08:59]
mircea_popescu what, you didn't know his name ? [08:59]
* copumpkin knew his name [08:59]
mircea_popescu he fucking sends email with his name on it, what's not to know. [09:00]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I knew it, but not in a court filing. [09:00]
copumpkin get with the times [09:00]
copumpkin lol, you google my nick my name is the first result [09:00]
mircea_popescu i guess. [09:00]
copumpkin I'm not exactly secretive [09:00]
BingoBoingo I mean Pirateat40 know copumkin's full name, but only James for GigaVPS [09:00]
mircea_popescu yes, but then pirate was an idiot. [09:00]
copumpkin he's also muddying things by lying [09:00]
copumpkin all over the placE :) [09:01]
mircea_popescu copumpkin no ?! [09:01]
copumpkin believe it or not! [09:01]
mircea_popescu i thought fraudsters never lie in court. [09:01]
mircea_popescu all this comes as news to me. [09:01]
copumpkin there was no way for pirate to think that goat's name is chaang noi :P [09:01]
mircea_popescu right. [09:01]
BingoBoingo lol [09:01]
copumpkin that's just retarded [09:01]
copumpkin I was amazed at how much crap he spewed in there [09:01]
BingoBoingo Pudgy white kid named Chaang Noi [09:01]
mircea_popescu actually... he only came up with chaang noi after his 6 months of laying low for the bst to blow over. [09:02]
copumpkin I think he got himself into more trouble there than he would be in if he'd just admitted it [09:02]
mircea_popescu well actually... i think in his case the meth defense cuts in [09:02]
mircea_popescu (ie, there's an absolute lowest limit a judge'll allow for self-critting idiocy, otherwise anyone from the inner cities would be doing >9k years) [09:02]
BingoBoingo Well this is just a civil case [09:03]
mircea_popescu this is really the reason prosecutions are so successful in the us. it's not really some sort of nefarious police stat [09:03]
mircea_popescu e/nasizm thing as some suggest. it's simply that most defendants are too stupid to live [09:03]
copumpkin and the guy is getting the SEC to drive him there in a car cause he doesn't have a car anymore [09:03]
copumpkin kind of sad [09:03]
mircea_popescu and if they were taken seriously they'd be just... you know, off to soylent plant [09:03]
mircea_popescu wait, no lambo ? [09:04]
mircea_popescu sec should buy a lambo. [09:04]
copumpkin apparently not! [09:04]
copumpkin they should ask the FBI for some of those SR coins and buy that mclaren that went up recently [09:04]
copumpkin fuck lambos [09:04]
mircea_popescu mclaren HONDA ? [09:04]
BingoBoingo Oh, the reasons I found a drive through miracle maker for my disorderly conduct misdemeanor, allegedly [09:04]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=499965.0 [09:05]
copumpkin you should get it [09:05]
mircea_popescu i don't drive [09:05]
copumpkin high five [09:05]
copumpkin I get driven [09:05]
mircea_popescu i also don't care for sportsters. [09:05]
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copumpkin mircea_popescu is too cool to drive, walks around with an open shirt on the street [09:06]
mircea_popescu definitely. [09:06]
mircea_popescu (and my zipper's not done in that shot, either) [09:06]
BingoBoingo Eh, I'll keep driving the shitty family sedan. No one suspects... [09:06]
copumpkin oh I wasn't checking [09:07]
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B007 how do you have money and not drive? [09:07]
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B007 or at least own cars [09:07]
BingoBoingo B007: Well Mircea has slaves, and copumpkin something? [09:08]
copumpkin I don't have a license [09:08]
copumpkin I get by without :) [09:08]
mircea_popescu https://www.google.com/search?q=Mercedes-Benz+E+230+(W210)&complete=0 << that, for instance, is imo one of the best cars ever made. [09:09]
mircea_popescu B007 i have cars, sometimes. i had dozens at some point. i jus' don't drive. [09:10]
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mircea_popescu "Pirate: And when I find that information, I will give you the updated information and show you that this was not a Ponzi scam. Just give me time. I promise you." [09:11]
mircea_popescu that's some epic shit right there. [09:11]
BingoBoingo lol [09:12]
copumpkin I liked the bit where they said "so wait, your company folded and you're in trouble now because someone screwed you out of 202k coins, and you forget who that someone is?" [09:12]
BingoBoingo Document one was the lulzier doc [09:12]
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mircea_popescu i pity that moustakis guy. [09:12]
copumpkin that was a long-ass interview [09:12]
copumpkin must've been exhausting for both of them [09:13]
mircea_popescu it's like you sign up to be a chiropractor, and you end up sent to practice in the loony bin [09:13]
copumpkin moustakis had to stay focused to catch all the crap the guy was saying, and I'm sure pirate was in overdrive trying to crank out more crap [09:13]
BingoBoingo Eh, looney bin ain't bad [09:13]
mircea_popescu copumpkin no, not for both of them. romanian expression is "nu te pune cu prostu' c-are mintea odihnita" [09:13]
mircea_popescu which says, don't mess with the stupid, his brain's well rested. [09:13]
BingoBoingo Get crayons [09:13]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: I dunno, there were several pretty awkward moments when it was clear he'd been caught in a lie [09:14]
mircea_popescu so i take it you read this whole thing ? carefully ? [09:14]
copumpkin I'm sure he was freaking out and trying to come up with more convincing crap [09:14]
copumpkin well, I read the whole thing, not sure carefully fits [09:14]
mircea_popescu how about you make a full length treatment of the whole thing, with notes ? [09:14]
mircea_popescu i'd read it. [09:14]
copumpkin lol [09:14]
mircea_popescu are you under counsel to stfu or anything ? [09:14]
copumpkin I'd rather sleep [09:14]
copumpkin no, not at all [09:14]
mircea_popescu fuck sleep. [09:14]
mircea_popescu srsly, it's the best thing you can do right now. [09:15]
mircea_popescu for "the community", or w/e you call it. [09:15]
copumpkin lol [09:15]
copumpkin fuck that [09:15]
copumpkin sleep :) [09:15]
mircea_popescu irsrs tho. [09:15]
joecool store your passwords with him [09:15]
copumpkin I'm sure you can find someone with less valuable time to summarize the shit [09:15]
BingoBoingo copumpkin: The veggies need their prison tomorrow. When you wake... [09:15]
copumpkin joecool: you've made that joke before, it's getting old [09:15]
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mircea_popescu copumpkin you're in a very good position because you have the skill and the experience. [09:15]
mircea_popescu what, you think i just sprout this shit randomly cause i'm bored on irc [09:16]
BingoBoingo copumpkin: My time is probably the least valuable, but your insight is probably the most. [09:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 700 @ 0.00385004 = 2.695 BTC [-] {7} [09:16]
copumpkin I'm sure if this goes anywhere serious they'll call on me to testify [09:16]
joecool copumpkin: :( cranky [09:16]
copumpkin not that I'll really want to [09:16]
copumpkin :P [09:16]
copumpkin given how much the fucker talks about me [09:16]
mircea_popescu if that does happen, this write-up will be a great thing to have. [09:16]
copumpkin it seems almost inevitable [09:16]
BingoBoingo copumpkin: DO a writeup in the next couple weeks, GPG sign it [09:17]
copumpkin I don't see what the benefit would be [09:17]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo for this purpose publishing beats signing. [09:17]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Given the nothingness published pre-August2012 publishing means little. "Shall be delivered" [09:18]
mircea_popescu copumpkin the usual benefit. a furthering of human knowledge on a topic. [09:18]
BingoBoingo Volume of text versus affirmed text [09:18]
mircea_popescu seeing how rthis topic is bitcoin, it kind-of trumps any other topic, even if some other topic may offer the illusion of importance. [09:18]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: I'm not opposed to it, but am not in a huge rush to spend my time on it either :) and would rather it be done in a formal setting so someone else can take care of summarizing/transcribing it :P [09:19]
BingoBoingo Of course. [09:19]
copumpkin lol [09:19]
copumpkin it doesn't trump that I have to get up for work in a few hours and need my beauty sleep [09:19]
mircea_popescu if you note, i said "full length treatment, with notes" [09:19]
mircea_popescu that does not map on "summarize" [09:19]
copumpkin pfft [09:19]
BingoBoingo I honestly am beneath this project [09:19]
mircea_popescu anyway. sleep well. [09:20]
copumpkin but anyway, as I said, I'm not opposed to doing that at some point :) thanks [09:20]
BingoBoingo I got the /. twice, but I am beneath the background necessary to treat this right [09:21]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i just went through the list of names there, which remarkably i had pretty accurate to begin with. crossing out the outright liars, like psychological compulsive sort, and the idiots, you're left with maybe 2-3 names [09:21]
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mircea_popescu and i don't think reeses_ is even paying attention anymore. [09:22]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: My list is comprable, but I the weight the "testimony" offer weighs so little on names I've assumed more guilty. [09:23]
BingoBoingo http://www.metrolyrics.com/the-man-comes-around-lyrics-johnny-cash.html?ModPagespeed=noscript [09:23]
ozbot Johnny Cash - The Man Comes Around Lyrics | MetroLyrics [09:23]
BingoBoingo You still wake up sometimes, don't you? You wake up in the dark and hear the screaming of the lambs. And you think if you save poor Catherine, you could make them stop, don't you? You think if Catherine lives, you won't wake up in the dark ever again to that awful screaming of the lambs. [09:25]
BingoBoingo All those delicious lambs. [09:25]
mircea_popescu anyway this shit is pretty epic, it wasn't that zeek rewards went under, it's just that he can't remember who had 200k btc [09:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 392 @ 0.00385 = 1.5092 BTC [-] {2} [09:25]
BingoBoingo Did anyone have 200k BTC? [09:25]
moiety lol new reply to abro thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=502567.msg5541511#msg5541511 [09:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 614 @ 0.00385 = 2.3639 BTC [-] {2} [09:26]
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BingoBoingo First principles, Simplicity. Read Aristotle. Of each particular thing ask: what is it in itself? What is its nature? What does he do, this man you seek? [09:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 75 @ 0.00385 = 0.2888 BTC [-] [09:27]
BingoBoingo Oh, NeoButt is crashing [09:28]
mircea_popescu GNULinuxGuy did you end up buying in ? [09:30]
mircea_popescu lol moiety [09:30]
BingoBoingo This spring it takes what? 2 BTC to kill Harnett's bankerness? AAA-???BBQ [09:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07634752 = 0.4581 BTC [-] {2} [09:31]
mircea_popescu well no cause there isn't one. [09:32]
mircea_popescu it's free! [09:32]
mircea_popescu so basically all the aurora crap ACTUALLY WAS strictly intended to win the bitbet bet. [09:34]
mircea_popescu qed, fuckers. [09:34]
BingoBoingo BitBet needs better submissions [09:36]
mircea_popescu defo. [09:37]
mircea_popescu someone was doing futures i saw [09:37]
BingoBoingo Lol [09:37]
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mircea_popescu wha ? [09:38]
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BingoBoingo Mystery futures market maker [09:38]
BingoBoingo Making serious markets [09:39]
BingoBoingo While maintaining serious mystery [09:39]
mircea_popescu sounds like a coin [09:39]
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BingoBoingo I know a bunch of -assets people's Bitbet payout addresses and this bettor isn't obviously one. [09:40]
BingoBoingo Especially since BTC taint is not a thing. [09:40]
BingoBoingo Bitbet marketing must be good. [09:40]
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mircea_popescu well ok, but "i know" means i know some not i know all in this context neh ? [09:41]
mircea_popescu "like, i know my wife's husband and he happens to be me" [09:41]
mircea_popescu sure, if you say so. last night she said differently. [09:41]
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BingoBoingo Well in this case I know a wife was active. My wife was missing. I however do not know that any wife of mine was involved with any of these activities. [09:44]
jcpham half truths mircea_popescu [09:44]
jcpham it's atangled web [09:44]
mircea_popescu surely. [09:44]
BingoBoingo Lovely things about BTC [09:44]
mircea_popescu "Law Office of Clifford Lloyd" [09:44]
mircea_popescu ouch [09:44]
BingoBoingo .bait [09:44]
ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/ff686c03ae04aed06b98d851163facd0/tumblr_mtm0wsfZgm1ro13l2o1_1280.jpg [09:44]
mircea_popescu if someone ends up disbared over pirate's dumb ass that'll be the lol of all time. [09:45]
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BingoBoingo Pirate seems to have months of lols left [09:46]
BingoBoingo And in a civil suit. [09:46]
BingoBoingo Only in Bitcoin-exile is such a thing possible [09:48]
BingoBoingo Oh, so many problems here as well http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/medical_examiner/2014/03/salmonella_and_raw_eggs_how_i_ve_eaten_tons_of_cookie_dough_and_never_gotten.html Bedtime though [09:50]
B007 and this is how you pump & dump http://s29.postimg.org/z0dwcl4rb/bitcoin.png [09:50]
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B007 I made 78 in a day [09:55]
B007 im so proud [09:55]
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mircea_popescu uh [10:09]
B007 huh [10:10]
mircea_popescu http://buttcoin.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/pirateat40-destroyed.png that's pretty good stuff lol [10:14]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i dunno where you get the "civil proceedings" notions from. [10:16]
mircea_popescu guy just gave himself a criminal contempt count. [10:16]
B007 is that guy fuked ? I think so [10:16]
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mircea_popescu that is oral culture at its finest. this guy is not part of contemporaneity, or even modernity. he finds himself in a roughly feudal time. back before literacy. [10:19]
mircea_popescu further proof that teaching kids to read and write is not either sufficient or particularly related to literacy. [10:19]
B007 ofc you can't make people read if they dont want to [10:20]
mircea_popescu you can make people do absolutely anything they should be doing, provided you're comitted to beating them to death if they do not, and start before they're 5. [10:21]
B007 but will they continue after the person that would beat them is gone? [10:22]
chetty yeah, it becomes habit [10:22]
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mircea_popescu http://buttcoin.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Screen-Shot-2014-03-05-at-1.34.57-PM.png [10:22]
mircea_popescu meanwhile... http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/smickles-icbitse-affidavit.txt [10:22]
mircea_popescu hey D : someone over there ain't doing their job of reading properly. [10:23]
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mircea_popescu B007 yes, it will continue. not even strictly of habit, as chetty says. take washing : once you get used to your smell when you're clean, you're not likely to stop washing. [10:25]
mircea_popescu but if you're used to your smell being filthy, you'll just keep on doing that because... whatever. [10:26]
mircea_popescu "whoever loves you loves you as you are" and all that. [10:26]
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mircea_popescu so it's habit, but it's also that once you know things, stupidity appears quite different from how it appears back when you don't know things. [10:26]
mircea_popescu you gain what's called metacognitive ability. [10:26]
mircea_popescu and so you understand both why you had to be beaten, and why you'll be beating the shit off your kids, too. so they don't end up like the retarded us scum. [10:27]
jurov well, once you keep yourself clean other people can start to smell horribly (applies to stupidity as well) [10:29]
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mircea_popescu indeed. [10:30]
mircea_popescu which is why society naturally segregates. it's not that the upper class hates the lower class. it's just that the lower class... stinks. [10:31]
chetty I wonder if much of the animosity between tea party and occupy could be simply smell? [10:31]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform for a total lulz : check out sec's own version of pgp, the pse : http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/containers/fix064/891166/0000898432-05-000712.txt [10:31]
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mircea_popescu chetty most of it. politics is a sexual matter. [10:32]
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midnightmagic children do better, perform better, respond better, and grow better when they aren't beaten. [10:32]
mircea_popescu you mean irl or in dreamland ? [10:33]
midnightmagic irl. There is virtually no evidence at all that beating children helps. [10:33]
midnightmagic There is virtually all the evidence that says that *not* beating them but maintaining discipline helps. [10:33]
chetty depends on the child, some actually need it [10:33]
mircea_popescu no, actually, there is an endless record of evidence that it does. what there's no evidence for is that not beating them is sustainable. [10:33]
mircea_popescu quite the contrary evidence abounds. [10:33]
midnightmagic No, there isn't. [10:33]
mircea_popescu right. [10:33]
midnightmagic Right. [10:33]
mircea_popescu we can move on to discussing how temperatures form a golf club pattern next [10:34]
mircea_popescu but as an exercise : consider whether you're randomly lumping together beating children with simple abuse, as a sort of strawman argument. [10:34]
mircea_popescu some random drunk randomly hitting some kid is absolutely not within the scope of this discussion. [10:34]
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mircea_popescu children have to be beaten systematically, in which case most don't actually even need pyshical contact. [10:35]
midnightmagic I understand what you mean. Virtually all infant and child development research disagrees with you. [10:36]
mircea_popescu virtually all data fugded by post 1950 us pseudoscience on the topic says random stupid shit. [10:36]
mircea_popescu it's about as good as us epidemiological data, that crap. [10:36]
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mircea_popescu well, either that or magically all kids suddenly need ritalin. [10:38]
midnightmagic No, ritalin is over-prescribed. That's evil on its own. [10:38]
mircea_popescu but it is over prescrived on the basis of " virtually all infant and child development research" [10:39]
mircea_popescu the same pseudoscientific process created both notions. [10:39]
midnightmagic I'm just saying, as much as it's possible to know such things, physical pain or even physical discomfort versus non-physical discipline tactics: the physical discipline is not as effective. [10:39]
mircea_popescu indeed. but do you know why ? [10:39]
mircea_popescu because the group that responds to the former well is SELF SELECTED. [10:40]
midnightmagic No it's not. Research is not the basis of ritalin over-prescription. In fact the research states that it is over-prescribed. [10:40]
midnightmagic :) [10:40]
mircea_popescu ie, theyre the smarter kids anwyay. [10:40]
mircea_popescu problem is the entire system collapses once kids know nobody can ever get beaten. [10:40]
mircea_popescu much like the us nuclear weapons, which the us refuses to declare will never be used. [10:40]
chetty fear is a wonderful motivation [10:41]
midnightmagic fear is not the most effective motivation. fear is not a direct motivator, it is a motivator to game the cease of fear. [10:41]
mircea_popescu basically you're externalising a cost. when "kids get beaten" subset A1 gets actually beaten and subset A2 learns from their experience. [10:41]
mircea_popescu you then run studies showing that A2 responds better than A1 [10:41]
mircea_popescu once "kids don't get beaten" everyone's ~A2. [10:41]
midnightmagic That is fundamental study design. They don't make those kinds of selection bias mistakes in the research on which consensus is formed. [10:42]
mircea_popescu midnightmagic only in uncontrolled environments. in controlled environments, fear is a motivator exactly for education. [10:42]
midnightmagic Else someone else trying to make a name for themselves comes along and destroys it. [10:42]
mircea_popescu it's how the child brain works, for this purpose. [10:42]
mircea_popescu midnightmagic nobody is going t omake a name for themselves in the current us showing that not beating kids is a wrong thing. [10:43]
midnightmagic Yeeaaahh.. no. Sure it's a motivator. I'm just saying it's not the most effective. [10:43]
mircea_popescu it's not the most effective huh ? [10:43]
mircea_popescu it's the one to which kids can pose no resistence. [10:43]
midnightmagic I would say about half or more of the US actually agrees with you that beating children is the best way. [10:43]
mircea_popescu it's ultimate, not effectual. [10:43]
mircea_popescu it presents guarantees of success. [10:43]
mircea_popescu midnightmagic yes, but not the 14% aspirational crowd that "makes" names [10:44]
midnightmagic Anyway, just pointing it out. If you have access to a research institute with fulltext, you should check it out. It's really fascinating and, for me at least, counter-intuitive. [10:45]
mircea_popescu yeah, i think the most we can arrive to is stating the respective positions. [10:45]
midnightmagic Here, yeah for sure. [10:45]
chetty no 'academic' would admit things like that, anymore than admit global warming is off. the wouldn't get their grants. [10:45]
mircea_popescu chetty presumably the free market still exists in the us, both financially and with regard to ideas, so such an academic would "make a name for himself" [10:46]
mircea_popescu somehow. [10:46]
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* midnightmagic waves. [10:46]
reeses_ I ignore nothing. I just don't pay attention. [10:46]
chetty ha, hasn't been a free market in ideas for a very long time [10:46]
reeses_ I love that he claims a ccie and ccna and doesn't know what ccie stands for [10:47]
reeses_ and that he got the ccie in high school [10:47]
mircea_popescu hence " and i don't think reeses_ is even paying attention anymore." [10:47]
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reeses_ switch what I said, then, I was ignoring it [10:48]
mircea_popescu midnightmagic but on the topic of making a name for oneself, know who tried that ? a certain dr. gleason. he tried to make a name for himself as not being a contemptible piece of shit. he was convicted, eventually, and then killed himself. [10:48]
mircea_popescu http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/12/and_now_the_pharma_pendulum_sw.html < tlp has the story. [10:48]
ozbot The Last Psychiatrist: Expendable; Or, And Now The Pharma Pendulum Swings Back The Other Way [10:48]
mircea_popescu reeses_ well then read the discussion with mr pineaple above too. [10:48]
midnightmagic huh. Never heard of him. [10:49]
mircea_popescu ikr? [10:49]
mircea_popescu kinda my point. [10:49]
mircea_popescu kinda why i'm stuck with an ever increasing intel dept [10:49]
mircea_popescu because nobody hears of anything anymore somehow. [10:49]
* midnightmagic has trouble getting "to the moon, alice" out of his head [10:49]
reeses_ yeah, working my way through the docs right now as well [10:50]
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reeses_ oh man this is so wrong [10:52]
mircea_popescu no ?! [10:53]
reeses_ I love it [10:53]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/embed/SjbPi00k_ME [10:54]
ozbot Casablanca gambling? I'm shocked - YouTube [10:54]
mircea_popescu reeses_ he somehow omitted his cisco number [10:56]
mircea_popescu or did they stop giving out those ? [10:56]
reeses_ yeah, I went to look it up [10:56]
reeses_ :-) [10:56]
reeses_ no, they're still numbered [10:56]
mircea_popescu http://www.bradreese.com/worldwide-ccie-count.htm [10:57]
mircea_popescu yeah its still there [10:57]
reeses_ but it's not as prestigious now, although it would still have been when he was in school [10:57]
mircea_popescu in 2000ish ? yea, it think it'd have been all over slashdot. "highschooler gets ccie!!1" [10:58]
mircea_popescu o wait. no slashdot yet. [10:58]
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reeses_ yeah, /. was around then, no? [11:03]
mircea_popescu wasnt it 2003 ish ? [11:04]
mircea_popescu no nm, turns out its late 90s. [11:04]
mircea_popescu "news at eight : everything is older than you think." [11:05]
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mircea_popescu http://buttcoin.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Screen-Shot-2014-03-05-at-2.00.38-PM.png [11:11]
mircea_popescu this shit's pretty good. [11:11]
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reeses_ my homework is here somewhere, I think copumpkin has it [11:12]
mircea_popescu lol [11:12]
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mircea_popescu Duffer1: big one and number two.. anyone taking bets one of those was goat? << yes. how much you wanna bet ? [11:13]
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mircea_popescu dexX7 i wonder wtf is happening there re missing txns [11:14]
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mircea_popescu this does not look toogood. [11:14]
kakobrekla they had an orphan in the list instead of the real block [11:15]
kakobrekla cause they were doing upgrades [11:15]
kakobrekla and were down for a bit [11:15]
kakobrekla and that happend. [11:15]
dexX7 true, people were complaining about strange behavior for a few days now [11:15]
dexX7 oh really? but the blockhash etc. was correct? [11:15]
mircea_popescu ah [11:16]
mircea_popescu ok than [11:16]
dexX7 well, good then that it's known [11:16]
kakobrekla well i dunno, thats the word i got and i dont think its made up [11:16]
kakobrekla except if this is a different thing. [11:16]
mircea_popescu dexX7 wait, what blockhash ? [11:16]
mircea_popescu you mean the hash of the block as reported then matches the hash as reported now ?! [11:17]
dexX7 there is this overview for example: https://blockchain.info/block-index/472689/000000000000000020cc76f78a24a6bc1c6d55e5514ee9b900ba08b3f97bc4a6 [11:17]
kakobrekla anyway, whatever it is its blockchain.info related, not bitcoin [11:17]
dexX7 and everything was correct except the number of transactions + the missing ones were indeed not listed [11:17]
mircea_popescu dexX7 the logic here is as follows : [11:18]
mircea_popescu the validity of a block is not established until later. which is what orphans and chain reorgs are. [11:18]
mircea_popescu if a service like blockchain.info goes down (ie, stops listening to the chain) it may end up with the impression a meanwhile discarded block is still valid [11:19]
mircea_popescu this would necessarily result in them listing a different set of txns from the actual set as found on the actual chain [11:19]
dexX7 a discarded block would have another hash [11:19]
mircea_popescu which'd be caught up once it reorgs [11:19]
mircea_popescu but yes, said block would have to have its own hash [11:19]
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mircea_popescu so did it not ? [11:19]
mircea_popescu cause if it did not then the orphan theory is blown. [11:19]
dexX7 the hash and merkleroot was the same [11:20]
mircea_popescu well then i suppose you'd better blog about it, or post or somthing. [11:20]
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mircea_popescu (i don't keep much of an eye on blockchain.info since there exists blockr) [11:21]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla: thats what you get when retarded webdevs make exchanges, for the seventy fifth time << mpoe-pr sez https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=290799.msg4924847#msg4924847 but retards know better. as per usual. [11:22]
mircea_popescu re smickles : fwiw i knew he wasn't in vegas too. [11:24]
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dexX7 maybe blockchain receives the complete blocks from it's backend in some way and had a small blackout while post-processing and adding the txs to their db ... well, who knows. they seem to be aware though. [11:25]
kakobrekla afaik the txes listed there were from an orphan [11:26]
mircea_popescu dexX7 maybe, let cary explain it. [11:27]
mircea_popescu so far, the "orphan" theory has a prblm. [11:27]
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kakobrekla i havent checked anything but whats the problem [11:28]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla that if they had an orphan it would show its own hash and root, not the correct block's. [11:28]
mircea_popescu if you go "block 200344, here's the hash (from block 200344') and here's the txn, from block 200344" you got a problem [11:29]
kakobrekla not necessarily, you dont know what the bug was [11:29]
dexX7 there is no orphaned block listed for 288788, but i only have blockchain.info as source [11:29]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla which is why i say let cary explain it, how the fuck would we know. [11:29]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo did it actually say "Michael Marquardt" or theymos or what ? [11:32]
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mircea_popescu fucking bs impossible to grep [11:32]
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chetty just Theymos I think [11:37]
kakobrekla two block appeared with same blockheight on blockchain info [11:40]
kakobrekla they had a fail and had to manually fix it thats why its not in the standard orphaned blocks page [11:40]
kakobrekla nothing to the story, move along. [11:40]
mircea_popescu same blockheight, same hash, diff txn set ? [11:42]
kakobrekla YES [11:42]
mircea_popescu some fail. [11:42]
dexX7 but there was only one block in the network and two on blockchain.info due to the fail, right? [11:45]
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kakobrekla afaik no [11:49]
kakobrekla 2 blocks on the network [11:49]
kakobrekla one is gone from bc records [11:50]
mircea_popescu so was this an evil block in some sense ? [11:51]
kakobrekla in the sense any other orphan would be an evil block to bc.info at the time [11:51]
kakobrekla as well [11:51]
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mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves: "realizing net proceeds of $164,758 from his net sales of 86,202 bitcoins" << epic. [11:54]
mircea_popescu some people buy in at a little over 2, some people sell out at a little under 2, life goes on. [11:55]
Diablo-D3 so [11:55]
Diablo-D3 has the ukraine nuked russia yet? [11:55]
reeses_ mircea_popescu: it just means his average spread was $2, which was ok at the time :-) [11:57]
mircea_popescu :D [11:57]
reeses_ what a sad amount, though :-) [11:57]
mircea_popescu i fucking wonder, you know, what the thought process of the mentally impaired is. [11:58]
reeses_ I mean, sure, that's real money in shitholes like texas and romania [11:58]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: look in the mirror! dohohohohoho [11:58]
mircea_popescu like shavers, like taaki, like maxwell, like you know, the lengthy list of idiots that were "involved" early on [11:58]
mircea_popescu and then sorta... fell off. [11:58]
reeses_ the mentally impaired generally lack the ability for introspection [11:58]
Diablo-D3 oh man [11:58]
reeses_ it's tough [11:58]
Diablo-D3 I remember taaki [11:58]
mircea_popescu i guess this is true. what a blessing it is, then. [11:58]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: a lot of early people quit [11:59]
mircea_popescu otherwise it'd be all "o fuck me, 160k for 80k btc ? i did that ? srsly ? " [11:59]
reeses_ ok I'm sure he is doing that now [11:59]
mircea_popescu i guess that's why the sec claiming the current price is a good thing [11:59]
reeses_ yeah [11:59]
mircea_popescu basically the da exists to make the stupid introspect [11:59]
reeses_ since they hold the coins, too [11:59]
mircea_popescu that's all it's there for. costs the rest of us a prett ypenny, too [11:59]
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mircea_popescu benkay: [12:08]
mircea_popescu ;;rated Vandroiy [12:08]
gribble You rated user Vandroiy on Sat Sep 1 23:00:35 2012, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: Risked 5k of his own bitcoins to help a bunch of forum retards see the light.. [12:08]
kakobrekla isnt taaki still herp derping around, why are you talking like he is history, i mean he might be, but he doesnt know that [12:08]
kakobrekla nor act like it [12:08]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla cause no btc. [12:08]
mircea_popescu btc, tits. btc is the only thing that matters, the only thing that lasts. tara! [12:09]
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kakobrekla i bet we will see him on 'major' tv stations this year [12:09]
kakobrekla probably the next too [12:09]
mircea_popescu sure. [12:10]
kakobrekla present history [12:10]
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mircea_popescu actually correct quote : “The BTC is the only thing in the world worth working for, worth fighting for, worth dying for, because it's the only thing that lasts". [12:10]
kakobrekla only until the end of the universe : [12:11]
kakobrekla so you might as well just fuck it [12:11]
mircea_popescu lol [12:11]
chetty http://imgur.com/gallery/iRSmRCg [12:14]
ozbot As a European this is how I imagine Americans have breakfast - Imgur [12:14]
kakobrekla http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=503105.msg5543619#msg5543619 [12:14]
ozbot Is Bitstamp going the same way as Gox? [12:14]
kakobrekla oh my, a marketing director!! [12:14]
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mircea_popescu anyway, the one - pretty much the only one - barb for the sec in the pirate story is that indeed the facts seem to support pirate's allegation that he actually paid out the newest investors first. [12:22]
mircea_popescu moustakis tried to finesse it out of the testimony, and absent any sort of competent defese it will probably wash away just fine [12:22]
mircea_popescu but it is quite atypical for a ponzi [12:22]
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mircea_popescu anyway, funny how goat got double paid, suckled something from pirate, suckled something from suckers buying debt... [12:24]
mircea_popescu ;;rated chaang-noi [12:24]
gribble You have not yet rated user chaang-noi [12:24]
mircea_popescu ;;seen chaang-noi [12:25]
gribble chaang-noi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 3 days, 4 hours, 25 minutes, and 40 seconds ago: might have to sue em [12:25]
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BigBitz kakobrekla? [12:27]
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kakobrekla a? [12:31]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform that https://static.pinboard.in/webstock_2014.htm is at least fucking ideologically bizarre. they represent electrification as this obscure political strategy move, when it's quite obvious the thing proceeded on economic rationale. [12:33]
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wao-ender https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWhVMsJCUAAdoYx.png:large [13:06]
kakobrekla http://imgur.com/gallery/Vn74zOf [13:07]
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mircea_popescu http://31.media.tumblr.com/fa6e3114a4258b2d26660215e7341f2c/tumblr_mzo25sSdI31su84zzo1_1280.jpg [13:28]
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mircea_popescu http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/mother-assaulted-with-vibrator-576321 [13:43]
ozbot Cops: Woman Beat Her Mom With Vibrator | The Smoking Gun [13:43]
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dexX7 http://mag.newsweek.com/2014/03/14/bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto.html [13:45]
dexX7 ^ satoshi found ;) [13:45]
mircea_popescu not nick szabo again is it ? [13:48]
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mircea_popescu lmao newsweek beat the bushes till they found one guy named satoshi nakamoto that was within driving distance [13:51]
mircea_popescu herp derp dur dur durr. [13:51]
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mircea_popescu anyway, the responsible tard being Leah McGrath Goodman [13:55]
nubbins` responsible enough to publish a photo of the guy's home, with number visible [13:56]
nubbins` poor man [13:56]
mircea_popescu at least gavin goes on the record saying that he doesn't need any money, [13:58]
mircea_popescu and a bunch of other retarded shit. [13:58]
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mircea_popescu Andresen responded: "Yeah, I'm not happy with the 'wacky pirate money' tone, either." [13:59]
mircea_popescu Then he told Nakamoto he'd accepted an invitation to speak at the Central Intelligence Agency headquarters. "I hope that by talking directly to them and, more importantly, listening to their questions/concerns, they will think of Bitcoin the way I do - as a just-plain-better, more efficient, less-subject-to-political-whims money," he said. "Not as an all-powerful black-market tool that will be used by anarchists to ove [13:59]
mircea_popescu rthrow the System." [13:59]
mircea_popescu From that moment, Satoshi Nakamoto stopped responding to emails and dropped off the map. [13:59]
mircea_popescu as scummy as it gets. [13:59]
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nubbins` thanks gavin! [13:59]
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nubbins` okay, i just bought tickets to see neutral milk hotel in berlin [14:01]
nubbins` time to wake up pascale by smacking her in the face with them [14:01]
nubbins` http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jtZx9LNpAY [14:02]
ozbot In the Aeroplane Over the Sea- Neutral Milk Hotel - YouTube [14:02]
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mircea_popescu "If you come out as the leader of Bitcoin, now you have to make appearances and presentations and comments to the press and that didn't really fit with Satoshi's personality," [14:12]
mircea_popescu kinda shocking how stupid this character is, seriously. [14:13]
mircea_popescu you gotta ? really ? how about the press and all that learns to irc instead. not like bitcoin is here to _adapt_ to anything now is it. [14:13]
kakobrekla irc lol is that even still a thing? [14:14]
mircea_popescu "He was the kind of person who, if you made an honest mistake, he might call you an idiot and never speak to you again," Andresen says. [14:14]
mircea_popescu yet he somehow magically doesn't understand why satoshi ain't talkin' to him no more. [14:14]
mircea_popescu i wonder. what could it be ? [14:14]
nubbins` "hey bru, know that disruptive technology you've been working on? well, i just got invited to speak with the cia about it! amazing, huh?" [14:15]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [14:15]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla yeah, it's where the UK prime minister trawls for special assistants to help him get the best child pron [14:15]
nubbins` trawling decimated fish stocks here [14:15]
mircea_popescu anyway, enough loling at fucktarded english major chicks, back to rift crafting [14:15]
mircea_popescu the lyf and tymes. [14:15]
nubbins` http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse_of_the_Atlantic_northwest_cod_fishery [14:17]
ozbot Collapse of the Atlantic northwest cod fishery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [14:17]
mircea_popescu yeah. sad. [14:17]
nubbins` almost one in ten newfoundlanders made their living doing that [14:17]
nubbins` unemployed overnight :0 [14:18]
mircea_popescu that's nothing. [14:19]
mircea_popescu about two in three white people are employed working for the government. [14:19]
mircea_popescu comes to about 600mn to be unemployed overnight one of these nights. [14:19]
nubbins` http://youtu.be/inDgw8AWmiw?t=2m [14:21]
ozbot The end of the Cod - John Crosbie in Bay Bulls Canada Day 1992. - YouTube [14:21]
nubbins` federal fisheries minister to angry mob: "i didn't take the fish out of the goddamn water" [14:21]
nubbins` mircea_popescu: we're only getting rid of white government? ;0 [14:23]
mircea_popescu pretty much the only places with actual government are white majority population. [14:23]
mircea_popescu china i suppose is making some moves towards relevancy, but i know jack shit about china [14:24]
chetty http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2014/03/02/oesterreicher-planen-sammelklage-gegen-kredit-system-der-banken/ [14:26]
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nubbins` planen... not holding breath ;( [14:30]
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dexX7 https://twitter.com/gavinandresen/status/441547758827474946 [14:49]
ozbot Twitter / gavinandresen: I'm disappointed Newsweek decided ... [14:49]
dexX7 "I'm disappointed Newsweek decided to dox the Nakamoto family, and regret talking to Leah." [14:49]
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mircea_popescu total derp this guy. [15:02]
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antephialtic mircea_popescu: do you think the article was an invasion of privacy? [15:12]
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mircea_popescu i think the article was an ebullution of idiocy. [15:33]
nubbins` i just bought thirty-seven pounds of pork shoulder [15:34]
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MisterE http://www.forbes.com/sites/chriswright/2014/02/11/when-chinas-food-runs-out/ [15:52]
ozbot When China's Food Runs Out - Forbes [15:52]
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MisterE finally someone gets it [15:53]
MisterE whats's a good non-Win bot? [15:53]
MisterE I run os x or Debian [15:53]
mircea_popescu irc bot you mean ? [15:54]
asciilifeform where is the proof that the old man had anything to do with btc? or even exists [15:54]
MisterE no trading bot [15:55]
MisterE for btc and alts [15:55]
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MisterE know any of these? http://easybitinvesting.com/bitcoin-trading/trading-robots/ [15:56]
asciilifeform MisterE: i posted here about this a few days ago, look in logs if you're interested. [15:56]
asciilifeform MisterE: (re: china) [15:56]
MisterE oh? [15:56]
asciilifeform MisterE: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-03-2014#544394 [15:57]
MisterE nice, ty [15:57]
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asciilifeform MisterE: beginning of that conversation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-03-2014#544315 [15:59]
MisterE why mircea_popescu say Ukraine is not productive and that article says its where .ch wants to buy its land becouse produces a lot of wheat? [15:59]
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asciilifeform MisterE: the chinese have certain methods of farming 'disposable' (i.e. belonging to untermenschen) lands [16:00]
asciilifeform MisterE: they have demonstrated this in the russian far east, where they occupied various places, some legally (rented), some otherwise [16:01]
MisterE farming has got to go hydro and less land intensive [16:02]
asciilifeform in other news, [16:04]
asciilifeform ua rebels now have... their own crematorium. (http://www.svpressa.ru/society/article/83339) [16:04]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=503831.new#new basically. the same idea. [16:09]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: somebody should teach these folks the virtues of seppuku. [16:10]
mircea_popescu but why ? if the cattle harakiri'd randomly wed have all these stale carcasses all over. [16:11]
asciilifeform ah, they just need to do it in a certified abbatoir. [16:11]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform "if there's a fire, don't do anything, call the fire people" [16:13]
mircea_popescu "if there's a robbery don't do anything, call the robbery people" [16:13]
mircea_popescu "if you feel like your time is up... don't... do anything... call the... " [16:14]
mircea_popescu etcv [16:14]
asciilifeform '1-800-SEP-UKKU' ... [16:15]
mircea_popescu facebukku [16:15]
asciilifeform http://i2.cpcache.com/product/99626877/quietus_mug.jpg?height=350&width=350 [16:16]
dexX7 "fiat style attack" ..? [16:16]
mircea_popescu lol i don't get it. [16:17]
chetty http://atn.ua/politika/glavnyy-ravvin-ukrainy-rossiya-predstavlyaet-opasnost-dlya-evreev-ukrainy [16:17]
mircea_popescu dexX7 yes. identity established not through the mechanism it is predicated upon, but through "the agreement" of "the people", specifically those who are too stupid to even understand what's being discussed. [16:18]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that cup is referring to a cheap sf flick, 'children of men', where there's an apocalyptic degringolade, and pill in question is a bestseller. [16:18]
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mircea_popescu roughly equivalent to some kid trying to resolve his upset at bitbet by "getting votes" [16:18]
mircea_popescu oh. musta been before my time. [16:18]
asciilifeform '04 [16:18]
asciilifeform i think [16:18]
dexX7 ah and in contrast one would simply sign some genesis coins and that's it [16:18]
asciilifeform chetty: related: http://cryptome.org/2014/03/ukraine-national-socialism.htm (with helpful translations) [16:19]
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mircea_popescu dexX7 right ? [16:20]
dexX7 yes [16:20]
asciilifeform well, they're pushing a picture of a 'go away, i won't admit the deed' satoshi [16:21]
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mircea_popescu or whatever, send 1 bitcent from the genesis block to 1newsweak98759843 [16:21]
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mircea_popescu about fifty different ways to go about it, all taking five minutes. [16:21]
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mircea_popescu anyway, if fake satoshi comes up with some derpage about how we should all love each other, feed africa and stop oppressing faggots it'll be just perfect. [16:25]
asciilifeform the real fun starts when we get a 2nd, 3rd... лжеsatoshi. [16:25]
mircea_popescu or whatever, fighting economic unequality and promoting the virtues of an unspecified, bug ridden codebase and the halfwits that nursed it to this day [16:25]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform actually there's already a dude claiming he's it [16:25]
mircea_popescu (also legally named satoshi nakamoto) [16:25]
asciilifeform but he wasn't anointed by nooseweak, was he [16:26]
mircea_popescu i guess that one had the disadvantage that the entire nonsense needed plane tickets, and newsweek wouldn't spring [16:26]
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mircea_popescu so the girl had to hitchhike to sonora or w/e [16:26]
mircea_popescu closer to home. [16:26]
mircea_popescu wherever a guy who "was deeply influenced by silicon valley" and also "uses prefix notation" could be found. [16:27]
asciilifeform 'uses prefix notation' ?!1! [16:28]
pigeons and two spaces after periods [16:28]
mircea_popescu right. [16:28]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform yes, yes. whatever you call it, polish ? [16:28]
asciilifeform turns out i'm satoshi - who knew. [16:28]
MisterE 2 spaces is asian [16:28]
mircea_popescu no, you're just deeply influenced by silicon valley. [16:28]
pigeons i thought everyone did that [16:28]
MisterE well this side of the pond [16:29]
MisterE no not uS [16:29]
mircea_popescu like you know... i don't think you can find someone doing that in the vc circus if your life depended on it [16:29]
MisterE it seems I come across double spacing less often now though, maybe just me [16:30]
michiel_l midnightmagic mikaeldice MiningBuddy mircea_popescu MisterE mius mixdio [16:31]
mircea_popescu MisterE it's really a leftover from typewriter days. [16:31]
MisterE or if its lazy good for nothing cheating students [16:31]
mircea_popescu makes 0 sense on a digital system [16:31]
MisterE oh yea totally fogotten [16:31]
pigeons omg, my husbandhas bad grammar too, just like satoshi nakamoto [16:31]
mircea_popescu wait, you have a husband now ? [16:32]
mircea_popescu AND a wife ? [16:32]
MisterE hah [16:32]
mircea_popescu what are you, the family dog ? [16:32]
pigeons depends what day it is [16:32]
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chetty http://legalinsurrection.com/2014/03/putin-nominated-for-nobel-peace-prize/ [16:38]
ozbot Putin | Ukraine | Crimea | Nobel Peace Prize | Nomination [16:38]
asciilifeform chetty: he'll get his right after snowden. [16:39]
chetty hahahahaha [16:39]
asciilifeform chetty: and it won't be a nobel pederasteace prize, but a Lenin prize. [16:39]
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chetty but then he and O could make a club or sumthin [16:40]
asciilifeform http://www.iss-reshetnev.com/images/Image/org/history/ord_lenina.jpg [16:40]
mircea_popescu lol [16:41]
mircea_popescu well i dunno, the peace prize seems inappropriate. [16:42]
mircea_popescu putin could get the physics nobel for his crimeea contgributions [16:42]
mircea_popescu bernanke math... [16:42]
asciilifeform some joker ought to fund a 'fields medal' for... spam. [16:43]
asciilifeform Chumpatronics Medal [16:43]
MisterE hmm maybe a pot fund [16:45]
MisterE it's going to be huge cash when it sweeps america next 10-years [16:45]
asciilifeform MisterE: S.MOKE ? [16:45]
MisterE yup [16:45]
asciilifeform MisterE: see mp's essay on cattle-tronics technology to learn why this is not actually an idea. [16:49]
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mircea_popescu actually this is pretty funny : The New Yorker's satoshi is Michael Clear ; Fast Company's satoshi is (Neal King, Vladimir Oksman and Charles Bry). Business Insider's satoshi is Nick Szabo. [17:04]
mircea_popescu there are also two individuals legally named satoshi nakamoto, one presenting himself as satoshi, the other being presented by newsweek as satoshi [17:04]
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mircea_popescu there's also Shinichi Mochizuki, Gavin's wife, Jed McCaleb (judging by kraken... god help us) [17:05]
chetty Crimea votes to join Russia [17:07]
mircea_popescu there's of course also the government [17:07]
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jurov chetty what, they finally moved the refendum to yesterday? [17:08]
jurov *referendum [17:08]
jurov it was supposed to be at 30th, then at 16th [17:08]
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chetty Crimea's parliament voted to join Russia on Thursday and its Moscow-backed government set a referendum within 10 days [17:08]
asciilifeform i'd really have to be in the place of a fellow 'getting satoshied' [17:09]
asciilifeform can already feel the rectothermal warmth just thinking about it. [17:09]
asciilifeform *really hate [17:09]
jurov nice freudian slip [17:09]
asciilifeform haha [17:09]
chetty well all the Satochies could get together and have a party [17:10]
asciilifeform 'skull of voltaire as a child' [17:10]
mircea_popescu party sounds good. [17:11]
mircea_popescu except no women ? [17:11]
chetty ok so Satochies and guests [17:12]
asciilifeform surely some could be found. the journarasts should work harder. [17:12]
asciilifeform at some point you'll have to demonstrate a cyanide tooth to be even considered a proper candidate for satoshidom. [17:13]
mircea_popescu satoshidom [17:14]
mircea_popescu lmao. [17:14]
pLambert do we know that Satoshi is a male? [17:14]
mircea_popescu satoshidoms and satoshidommes, at the bcst! [17:14]
mircea_popescu pLambert i was merely commenting on the people held up for the role by the media so far. [17:14]
mircea_popescu we don't know jack. [17:14]
asciilifeform pLambert: how anyone can claim to know anything at all about s, is a mystery. [17:15]
chetty hmmmmm sounds like a great halloween costume :satoshidommes [17:15]
asciilifeform the best evident for nsatoshi, for instance, is the grungy cpp [17:15]
asciilifeform rather than anything posted under the name [17:15]
mircea_popescu TC: Does it matter? What would it change if it did, in your opinion? [17:17]
mircea_popescu SG: I think it’s very important to identify Satoshi at this point in Bitcoin’s history. The “agenda” behind Bitcoin, if there is any, cannot stay in the shadow if Bitcoin is to become a mainstream alternative currency, a challenge to the world’s monetary status quo. There has been speculation that Bitcoin may have been created by a government agency (the main employers of cryptographers of mathematicians) in [17:17]
mircea_popescu an attempt to make financial transactions easier to mine for interesting data patterns: we need to clear that up before we start relying heavily on Bitcoin in our lives. [17:17]
mircea_popescu no but check out the stupid. [17:17]
mircea_popescu people are incredible. [17:17]
mircea_popescu TC: How has your digging gone over in the BTC community? It seems like an unpopular topic at best. [17:18]
mircea_popescu SG: It has not been received well, many people are telling me to “leave Satoshi alone”. But when one starts having a huge impact on the world, one loses his right to anonymity. [17:18]
mircea_popescu orly. [17:18]
mircea_popescu i gotta stop reading on this topic jesus god they're offensive. [17:18]
asciilifeform ;;google sympathetic magic [17:18]
gribble Sympathetic magic - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Chapter 3. Sympathetic Magic. § 1. The Principles of Magic. Frazer ...: ; Sympathetic magic - Merriam-Webster Online: [17:18]
asciilifeform ;;google ritual cleanliness [17:18]
gribble Ritual purification - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Ritual washing in Judaism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Tumah and taharah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: [17:18]
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asciilifeform tomorrow's headline: 'vlad p signs message with satoshi's key, asking idiots to stfu' [17:19]
asciilifeform incidentally, anyone who does so... will be satoshi [17:20]
asciilifeform or at least a fork. [17:20]
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mircea_popescu actually this suggests a bet to me. [17:21]
asciilifeform i thought people didn't like 'geological' bets. [17:21]
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nubbins` first shoulder trimmed and cubed [17:23]
nubbins` hands like claws [17:24]
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mircea_popescu meh, too hard to specify. [17:27]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.07489655 = 0.3745 BTC [+] {2} [17:37]
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nubbins` so i sent a coin to australia on january 14. it took nineteen days to get from here to vancouver, and finally arrived in australia today [17:47]
nubbins` what a wait! [17:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 5 @ 0.0842 = 0.421 BTC [-] [17:51]
ThickAsThieves http://www.theverge.com/2014/3/6/5476944/norway-will-cut-through-an-island-in-tribute-to-massacre-victims [17:55]
ozbot Norway will cut through an island in tribute to massacre victims | The Verge [17:55]
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cazalla that's quite a long time nubbins` [18:00]
cazalla maybe it was stuck at customs [18:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 47 @ 0.00436999 = 0.2054 BTC [+] {3} [18:01]
cazalla with standard shipping, i usually get amazon orders to here in around 2 weeks [18:01]
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nubbins` i've never had anything take so long -- wondering what shape the package will be in when it arrives [18:02]
nubbins` 19 days to cross canada is nuts :0 [18:02]
ThickAsThieves maybe it was intercepted [18:04]
mircea_popescu inception [18:04]
nubbins` ThickAsThieves, that's pretty striking [18:06]
nubbins` (re: link) [18:06]
nubbins` re: package, my guess is the express shipping label somehow got ripped off [18:07]
nubbins` and it went surface [18:07]
ThickAsThieves i can't recall a better memorial idea [18:07]
nubbins` at least the month and a half of panicking is over. guy paid 6btc for the coin inside, via escrow [18:08]
ThickAsThieves maybe have the guy photograph it before opening the package [18:09]
ThickAsThieves in case it was tampered with [18:09]
nubbins` yeah, conditions included hd video of unpackaging [18:09]
nubbins` can't be too careful [18:09]
nubbins` this buyer was the only person so far who took me up on the offer to extend the pgp chain of custody [18:10]
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dexX7 nubbins` you already used super slow shipping for the baked cat shirts, so i'm not surprised :p [18:18]
nubbins` well, that was more practicality than anything. nobody wants to spend $30 shipping on a $15 shirt [18:19]
nubbins` coins, i send express :D [18:19]
dexX7 was it a redeemed one? [18:20]
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nubbins` nope [18:21]
dexX7 :) [18:21]
nubbins` i only ever peeled one casascius coin (0.5btc brass) [18:21]
nubbins` was thrilling [18:21]
nubbins` for about a minute [18:23]
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KRS-One You need to get out more nubbins` [18:23]
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nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/bitcoin-exchange-first-meta-ceo-autumn-radtke-found-dead-1.2562077 [18:23]
ozbot Bitcoin exchange First Meta CEO Autumn Radtke found dead - Technology & Science - CBC News [18:23]
mircea_popescu http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m37j6y9SXS1ru9xfzo1_1280.jpg [18:23]
nubbins` KRS-One: the problem is how to entertain myself while i'm in! [18:23]
mircea_popescu nubbins` http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-03-2014#545213 [18:24]
nubbins` gah [18:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.0690001 = 2.07 BTC [-] {3} [18:24]
mircea_popescu dun dun dun [18:24]
nubbins` sadtrumpet.mp3 [18:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.06801001 = 0.204 BTC [-] [18:25]
dexX7 there are several headlines with "bitcoin ceo died" =D [18:26]
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nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/could-bars-open-until-6-a-m-be-in-montreal-s-future-1.2562057 [18:27]
ozbot Could bars open until 6 a.m. be in Montreal's future? - Montreal - CBC News [18:27]
nubbins` ^ HEH [18:27]
nubbins` cops are gonna love that [18:27]
nubbins` this will last until the first hockey game [18:28]
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ThickAsThieves http://www.coindesk.com/upcoming-version-bitcoinj-software-will-use-tor-network/ [18:30]
ThickAsThieves Hearn keeps on giving [18:30]
ThickAsThieves http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2014/03/05/most-popular-bitcoin-apps-soon-to-run-on-tor-anonymity-network/ [18:31]
ozbot Most Popular Bitcoin Apps Soon To Run On Tor Anonymity Network - Forbes [18:31]
ThickAsThieves ^ source [18:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 54 @ 0.04297777 = 2.3208 BTC [+] {3} [18:31]
benkay *sigh* [18:31]
nubbins` forbes.com/sites/ [18:32]
nubbins` is where i stopped reading [18:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 4 @ 0.04339994 = 0.1736 BTC [+] {2} [18:32]
ThickAsThieves i dont think it's quite the same as CNN/sites/ [18:32]
ThickAsThieves might just be where they keep their "columnists" [18:33]
nubbins` oh, i think you might be right [18:34]
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dexX7 kakobrekla: another orphaned block? https://blockchain.info/block-height/288294 + http://pastebin.com/xLFmbfD0 [18:39]
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dexX7 the bci block has 693 txs [18:40]
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kakobrekla yeah dunno [18:42]
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dexX7 *the real one has 693 (instead of 554) [18:44]
kakobrekla yes also the hash matches real hash on blockr [18:45]
kakobrekla interestingly enough dexX7 , tx fees match perfectly [18:47]
kakobrekla only 150txes missing [18:47]
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dexX7 yea. the one from earlier was fixed on bc.info in the meantime [18:48]
mircea_popescu so is this coindesk basically a hand aggregator of the retarded press ? [18:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 25 @ 0.0055 = 0.1375 BTC [18:49]
mircea_popescu some kid just sits and googles forbes, business dorksider etc all day ? [18:49]
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nubbins` reading an article about Staples closing 225 stores and there's a quote from some asshole about "right-sizing" their retail footprint [18:49]
nubbins` fuck, i hate business speak [18:49]
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nubbins` back when i worked in a fabric-covered box, i walked past an office and overheard the woman inside talking about a "head count reduction" [18:50]
kakobrekla dexX7 well what can i say, blockr seems more reliable :) [18:50]
nubbins` nobody's getting fired, we're just going to count people, and if you don't get counted you're not getting paid [18:50]
dexX7 indeed. i like the website [18:50]
mircea_popescu dexX7 this may be more or less the time one removes any large btc balances from blockchain [18:50]
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kakobrekla dexX7 001ef3beb93da31ca03a0643951c594623df5f4fb670536a07614ea7c23053e4 might be the problem [18:51]
kakobrekla and it seems its the tx that they made [18:51]
kakobrekla so it seems they have a prob with their own txes [18:52]
mircea_popescu hence my comment. [18:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 7 @ 0.08463509 = 0.5924 BTC [+] {3} [18:53]
dexX7 the note only means that the tx was relayed or broadcasted by bci [18:53]
dexX7 the tx has actually 928 confirmations [18:53]
kakobrekla http://blockchain.info/tx/001ef3beb93da31ca03a0643951c594623df5f4fb670536a07614ea7c23053e4 vs http://blockr.io/tx/info/001ef3beb93da31ca03a0643951c594623df5f4fb670536a07614ea7c23053e4 vs http://blockexplorer.com/tx/001ef3beb93da31ca03a0643951c594623df5f4fb670536a07614ea7c23053e4 [18:53]
ozbot Bitcoin Transaction 001ef3beb93da31ca03a0643951c594623df5f4fb670536a07614ea7c23053e4 [18:53]
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mircea_popescu "hypothesis on why I think the real Sotoshi was found" [18:54]
mircea_popescu defonituly. [18:54]
nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/female-westjet-pilot-posts-passenger-s-sexist-note-on-facebook-1.2559603 [18:55]
ozbot Female WestJet pilot posts passenger's sexist note on Facebook - British Columbia - CBC News [18:55]
kakobrekla yeah, its not 100% from them, but likely [18:55]
nubbins` "I respectfully disagree with your opinion that the 'cockpit,' (we now call it the flight deck as no cocks are required), is no place for a lady. In fact, there are no places that are not for ladies anymore." [18:55]
nubbins` HAHAHAHA PLUS ONE [18:55]
ThickAsThieves mp, dr greg is calling you out https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=350103.msg5550181#msg5550181 [18:57]
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mircea_popescu out of the cockpit ? [18:57]
ThickAsThieves more of an i-told-you-so [18:58]
mircea_popescu "Too funny. Despite the incoherence of his blog post, at least MP has finally stepped up and conceded the incompetence of his former approach to options market making. For finally admitting that and quitting the business of options market making without being adequately prepared, he deserves a positive acknowledgement." [18:58]
mircea_popescu derp ? [18:58]
mircea_popescu dude that moore idiot should have been shot. [18:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 2.37038703 BTC to 3`597 shares, 65899 satoshi per share [18:59]
mircea_popescu because the us failed to execute him, the entire country is now full of losers who imagine that if they somehow pour drivel which happens to contain references to GM's CEO they somehow gain relevance. [18:59]
kakobrekla dexX7 apparently it was fixed, perhaps they are reading assets logs or something [19:02]
dexX7 hehe [19:02]
ThickAsThieves someone should poke them to explain why it happened and won't happen again [19:02]
kakobrekla but it will! [19:03]
ThickAsThieves ^ Cary ^ [19:03]
mircea_popescu maybe they, you know, independently audit their own chainz [19:04]
kakobrekla the block was a week old [19:04]
kakobrekla or smth [19:05]
mircea_popescu 900 confirms huh [19:05]
mircea_popescu yeah i guess. [19:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 3 @ 0.04200299 = 0.126 BTC [-] {2} [19:05]
kakobrekla schrodingers blockchain [19:06]
mircea_popescu so today i woke up to the pirate sec deposition, and i had to interrupt my launch because some overqualified stripper went off the deep end in newsweek [19:07]
mircea_popescu the theory that three's a charm is kind-of giving me goosebumps atm. [19:07]
mircea_popescu s/launch/lunch [19:07]
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lnovy mircea_popescu: i've just read mpoe february 2014 statement and I cannot hold myself to tell you this: Good job. [19:14]
kakobrekla are you like dr gregs evil brother? [19:15]
lnovy i have my own asshole brother :) [19:16]
kakobrekla luxury [19:19]
ThickAsThieves i wonder how these AUR are being "air-dropped" [19:21]
ThickAsThieves in the mailbox? to be stolen? [19:21]
mircea_popescu lnovy ty. [19:21]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves prolly some website thing [19:22]
ThickAsThieves "MazaCoin is a fork of ZetaCoin and unlike Bitcoin, is inflationary, making it possible for new coins to be mined over time." [19:22]
ThickAsThieves painful [19:22]
ThickAsThieves what is Asicminer mining then? [19:23]
mircea_popescu old coins [19:23]
nubbins` heh. [19:23]
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mircea_popescu what's an asshole brother lnovy ?! [19:24]
lnovy mircea_popescu: that was just a quick to-be-funny reaction [19:25]
lnovy i failed obviously [19:25]
mircea_popescu interesting concept nevertheless. [19:26]
lnovy indeed [19:27]
ThickAsThieves it's when you bump assholes with a guy, swapping anal cooties, making you asshole brothers [19:30]
nubbins` poop swap [19:32]
nubbins` like blood brothers [19:32]
nubbins` http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS2QwKRhnds [19:32]
ozbot Ass to Ass Loop - Requiem for a Dream - YouTube [19:32]
benkay nubbins`: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fecal_bacteriotherapy [19:33]
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ThickAsThieves http://gawker.com/a-letter-from-ray-jasper-who-is-about-to-be-executed-1536073598 [19:44]
ozbot A Letter From Ray Jasper, Who Is About to Be Executed [19:44]
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kakobrekla http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=503566.0 [20:03]
ozbot Safello launches complete redesign of website as it gears up for European expans [20:03]
mircea_popescu which one is this one ? [20:03]
kakobrekla >Safello announces a $600k investment round lead by prominent Bitcoin advocates Erik Voorhees and Roger Ver joined by Blockchain.info CEO Nicolas Cary and angel investors Victor & Victor. The Sweden based company also launches a complete redesign of their website to gear up for their European expansion as the safest way into Bitcoin. [20:04]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves that thing is beyond fake. [20:04]
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ThickAsThieves the letter is fake? [20:13]
mircea_popescu unless you're telling me an unemployable black kid that supplemented his dole payments with robbery somehow went to vassar while in a texas jail. [20:15]
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mircea_popescu really badly written, too. "When I first responded to you, I didn't think that it would cause people to reach out to me and voice their opinions. I've never been on the internet in my life and I'm not fully aware of the social circles on the internet, so it was a surprise to receive reactions so quickly." [20:17]
* ThickAsThieves shrugs [20:17]
ThickAsThieves not sure it matters [20:17]
ThickAsThieves http://coinchomp.com/2014/03/06/journalist-harasses-man-believes-bitcoin-founder/ [20:17]
ozbot Journalist Harrasses Man Believing Him to be Bitcoin Founder Satoshi Nakamoto - CoinChomp [20:17]
mircea_popescu "here's what some libertard that's been on the internet all her lyf thinks a guy who's not would say" [20:17]
ThickAsThieves maybe he has a mentor, i dunno [20:18]
mircea_popescu yeah. a mentor that's never talked to anyone who's not online. [20:21]
mircea_popescu nor gives a shit about anything but how the story should read for maximal impact in the mouthbreather herd. [20:21]
deadweasel ^ this is what I saw in this and the first letter. [20:26]
deadweasel it's as if the anti death penalty league wrote it [20:26]
mike_c he slit the guy's throat. but the guy didn't die and his accomplice finished him off. [20:27]
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dexX7 https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffirstmonday.org%2Fojs%2Findex.php%2Ffm%2Farticle%2FviewFile%2F474%2F830%2F5678&t=537&c=FLUTTcM5qE6Bcw looky, allegedly from 1995 [20:45]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.65 = 5.2 BTC [+] [20:46]
dexX7 boom [20:46]
benkay` dexX7: mystical buttcorns [20:47]
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ThickAsThieves dats a lotta AM [20:48]
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the20year2 RENT will start trading/non-IPO trading tomorrow around noon [21:09]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 9 @ 0.07488998 = 0.674 BTC [-] {2} [21:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 6 @ 0.07489405 = 0.4494 BTC [+] {3} [21:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.00574988 = 1.725 BTC [-] {4} [21:12]
benkay` how much of a selloff are you expecting, the20year2? [21:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 3 @ 0.0863266 = 0.259 BTC [+] {2} [21:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 617 @ 0.00574993 = 3.5477 BTC [+] [21:15]
mike_c ;;calc (78534-24564)*0.0055 [21:16]
gribble 296.835 [21:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 35 @ 0.00444777 = 0.1557 BTC [+] [21:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 635 @ 0.00574995 = 3.6512 BTC [+] {2} [21:16]
benkay` !t h rent [21:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (674 shares, 3.70700000 BTC), 7D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (11826 shares, 65.04300000 BTC), 30D: 0.00550000 / 0.0055 / 0.00550000 (53970 shares, 296.83500000 BTC) [21:16]
mike_c 300 btc. not sure what to make of that. [21:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00575 = 0.46 BTC [+] [21:17]
benkay` the20year2: are you willing to lend me some shares? [21:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 51 @ 0.00579947 = 0.2958 BTC [+] {4} [21:18]
the20year2 Depends on how much money you send me [21:19]
the20year2 Benkay, i'm expecting price to rise to .006 or .007 [21:19]
mircea_popescu o.O [21:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 47 @ 0.0055 = 0.2585 BTC [21:20]
benkay` i'll put collateral on deposit with someone, not you [21:20]
benkay` maybe i just want to do a bitbet [21:20]
the20year2 You were the one asking for handouts :D [21:20]
benkay` hey, watch your mouth. [21:20]
benkay` i will collateralize. [21:20]
benkay` ThickAsThieves: ping [21:21]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.00589 = 0.1414 BTC [+] [21:21]
benkay` the20year2: assume i have btc and can collateralize a position. are you willing to lend me shares? [21:22]
mike_c what are you going to do with them? you can't sell them until ipo is off. tough to short if it gaps down. [21:23]
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the20year2 I guess so? You'd have to send me more details [21:23]
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the20year2 IPO ends tomorrow at noon [21:25]
benkay` mike_c: pm [21:25]
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r3wt ;;bcauth [21:34]
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r3wt ;;bcauth r3wt [21:34]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00589786 = 0.3539 BTC [+] {4} [21:34]
B007 well this guy http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/03/bitcoin-creator-satoshi-nakamoto-revealed-after-years-of-mystery/ lives 2 hours away from me [21:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.0059585 = 0.2383 BTC [+] {2} [21:35]
B007 I wonder if people will start showing up at his house now asking for bitcoin [21:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.645 BTC [-] [21:37]
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Phraust or with $5 wrenches. [21:39]
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B007 I'm temped to show up myself lol [21:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 37 @ 0.07000012 = 2.59 BTC [-] {4} [21:41]
deadweasel no. [21:42]
B007 ok [21:43]
mike_c no point. either he is the guy and deserves some respect, or he isn't and you're annoying some stranger [21:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 7 @ 0.07 = 0.49 BTC [-] {2} [21:48]
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dexX7 http://www.coindesk.com/bitstamp-audit-proves-behind-147m-mystery-bitcoin-wallet/ [21:55]
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dexX7 at that time about 20-25k btc were on the books.. wouldn't have assumed that there was so much sleeping money/coins x.x [21:59]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 72 @ 0.0055 = 0.396 BTC [22:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.07798294 = 1.8716 BTC [+] {5} [22:01]
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pLambert what is S.MNKY going to be? [22:19]
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nubbins` a barrel of fun? [22:20]
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mike_c s.mnky is going to implement the infinite monkey protocol. [22:27]
mike_c http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2795.txt [22:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00598999 = 0.4792 BTC [+] {3} [22:28]
jurov prolly ends up as reference RFC implementation [22:29]
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jurov mircea_popescu: consider asking MPOE-PR to announce on trolltalk that S.MNKY is hiring :DDD [22:31]
rithm hi [22:32]
nubbins` jcpham was a better nick [22:32]
rithm yo mam [22:33]
rithm a [22:33]
nubbins` http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPM1q_Uyxc [22:33]
ozbot Rhythm is a dancer - YouTube [22:33]
mike_c genius jurov. put the forum to good use for once. [22:33]
rithm satoshi convinced me [22:33]
ThickAsThieves sup benkay [22:34]
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nubbins` i forgot how much i like skinny puppy [22:46]
nubbins` some of their earlier shit is insane [22:46]
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mircea_popescu jurov lol maybe an idea [22:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 37 @ 0.00449991 = 0.1665 BTC [-] [22:49]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/776/light-sweet-crude-oil-wti-jan-2015-over/#c2568 [22:51]
ozbot BitBet - Light Sweet Crude Oil (WTI) Jan 2015 over $200 at any point in 2014 [22:51]
mircea_popescu today in "Bitcoin People Are Insane" : [22:52]
mircea_popescu guy that has no idea how to work cmegroup.com wants to bet on the oil price [22:52]
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ThickAsThieves We Are All Bitcoin https://bitcoinfoundation.org/blog/?p=510 [23:02]
ThickAsThieves "Everyone who is involved in Bitcoin understands the strength of the design." do they? [23:03]
nubbins` depends on your definition of "involved" :D [23:03]
ThickAsThieves bleh, buncha hot air text [23:03]
ThickAsThieves TLDR [23:04]
mircea_popescu garzik trying to undo piles of piled idiocy. [23:04]
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nubbins` twist: leah mcgrath goodman is satoshi nakamoto [23:04]
ThickAsThieves and married to John Goodman [23:05]
Namworld Well I hear government backing of a fiat currency gives value, but faith does not give innate value to a fiat like BTC. Apparently if I disagree and claim both are fiat, without innate value and purely faith based valuation, I don't know what I'm talking about. [23:05]
Namworld It's nice to know only faith in government counts. [23:05]
mircea_popescu you're preachin' to the choir. [23:05]
ThickAsThieves "Jeff Garzik is an engineer, blogger, futurist and entrepreneur. " [23:06]
nubbins` futurist! [23:06]
ThickAsThieves how do i become a futurisy? [23:06]
Namworld I know. [23:06]
ThickAsThieves t [23:06]
nubbins` first step is to become a wizard [23:06]
ThickAsThieves can i also be a pastist [23:06]
nubbins` second step is to call yourself a futurist instead of a wizard [23:06]
ThickAsThieves or a presenist [23:06]
ThickAsThieves t [23:06]
nubbins` pastists are called throwbacks [23:06]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves pastits are the guys who attack the pasties to the tits. [23:07]
nubbins` or codgers if they're really good at it [23:07]
jurov not 1337 enough.. should be phuturist instead [23:07]
nubbins` attack with scissors [23:07]
mircea_popescu or maybe a fartist [23:07]
mircea_popescu like a far seeing fart artist [23:07]
nubbins` god DAMN there are some good smells coming up the stairs [23:07]
mircea_popescu !b 2 [23:07]
assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1695879/plain/) [23:07]
nubbins` i've been boiling some pork bones for 4 hours now [23:08]
nubbins` i suspect p just lifted the lid to stir [23:08]
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mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/3aGHJHc.jpg [23:22]
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nubbins` would wear [23:25]
mircea_popescu ;p; [23:25]
mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/575U3WI.gif [23:28]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 20 @ 0.0055 = 0.11 BTC [23:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.07249999 = 0.725 BTC [+] [23:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 65 @ 0.0055 = 0.3575 BTC [23:42]
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BingoBoingo Is S.MNKY hiring a futurist? [23:59]
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