Forum logs for 05 Dec 2014
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
| mircea_popescu | satoshitango.com <<< shit an' go! | [00:01] |
| mircea_popescu | sentenced to HO ? | [00:01] |
| decimation | I guess usg is tacitly admitting it had no case and is frightened of an appeal | [00:02] |
| decimation | either that or the guy flipped on someone | [00:02] |
| mircea_popescu | dude check it out, #bitcoin00/#bitcoin01 empty! | [00:03] |
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| mircea_popescu | https://bitcointa.lk/members/laszlo.59/#postings (lfnet) | [00:08] |
| assbot | laszlo | Bitcointa.lk ... ( http://bit.ly/1ApFOsq ) | [00:08] |
| BingoBoingo | http://qntra.net/2014/12/von-nothaus-gets-house-arrest/ | [00:12] |
| assbot | Von NotHaus Gets House Arrest | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1ApHdPu ) | [00:12] |
| * | assbot removes voice from Dr-G2 | [00:12] |
| undata | http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/guantanamo/article4263887.html << more language destruction | [00:13] |
| assbot | Pentagon fears blowback from ‘humane’ Guantánamo video release | The Miami Herald ... ( http://bit.ly/1ApHulD ) | [00:13] |
| mircea_popescu | “While the videos at issue in this litigation do not in my opinion depict any improper treatment of the detainees, but rather the lawful, humane and appropriate interaction between guards and detainees,” wrote U.S. Navy Rear Adm. Sinclair Harris, “persons and entities hostile to the United States and its detention of enemy belligerents at Guantánamo Bay are likely to think otherwise.” | [00:15] |
| mircea_popescu | dude freedom changed to democracy. | [00:16] |
| undata | liberation from hunger | [00:17] |
| undata | I should learn latin just so I have something to think in when they're done turning english into shit | [00:17] |
| mircea_popescu | or romanian. it has better curses. | [00:19] |
| decimation | romanians taught latin to socrates | [00:19] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28800 @ 0.00033633 = 9.6863 BTC [-] {2} | [00:19] |
| mircea_popescu | lol | [00:20] |
| BingoBoingo | http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=4034991 | [00:20] |
| assbot | Von NotHaus Sentenced to House Arrest - Slashdot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ApJESa ) | [00:20] |
| BingoBoingo | ^ Anyone with /. account pls vote up. Will thank with absolution of sin. | [00:21] |
| decimation | dirty papists | [00:22] |
| mircea_popescu | https://bitcointa.lk/threads/hash-sec-throttling-for-democracy.301/ << idiotic reform proposals, as old as bitcoin | [00:23] |
| assbot | Hash/sec Throttling for Democracy | Bitcointa.lk ... ( http://bit.ly/1ApKXRg ) | [00:23] |
| undata | Therefore, why not cap the number of hashes per second? If the operations were capped at say, 250khash/sec based upon system clock and not the available number of cycles, then anyone with the "minimum requirements" could participate << cap the standards of your wife so everyone can participate | [00:25] |
| mircea_popescu | and since im doing history, http://bofh.ntk.net/BOFH/ | [00:25] |
| assbot | Bastard Operator From Hell Official Archive ... ( http://bit.ly/1ApLqTv ) | [00:25] |
| decimation | "we would gladly destroy the rich man's nice things just so we call all have poor hovels" | [00:26] |
| undata | seems like a drive related to being suicidal | [00:28] |
| mircea_popescu | actually i think it's related to forcing whiny nerds to defend their fucking civ1 cities, | [00:30] |
| mircea_popescu | which otherwise they fucking never do. | [00:30] |
| BingoBoingo | http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/05/health/cdc-warns-that-flu-season-may-be-more-deadly-than-usual.html | [00:30] |
| assbot | Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1ApMYNl ) | [00:30] |
| decimation | I never bother to invest in military units until I have good tech | [00:31] |
| decimation | but I can be easily owned by aggressive barbarians | [00:31] |
| mircea_popescu | lol | [00:32] |
| mircea_popescu | this is so uniquely peculiar to you i swear... | [00:32] |
| decimation | this strategy works better in civ 5 where your cities can magically defend themselves | [00:32] |
| undata | sprint to nukes, destroy earth, rule over the radioactive wasteland. | [00:33] |
| mircea_popescu | i only played civ 1, but nukes were a splendid tool to destory ships | [00:33] |
| mircea_popescu | no sea pollution, magically. | [00:33] |
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| BingoBoingo | [00:37] | |
| BingoBoingo | However many nukes +1 fighter jet for defense | [00:38] |
| BingoBoingo | I always tried to keep my territory under my flag small, clean, and well developed while oppressing the rest of the world | [00:39] |
| decimation | civ5 with nuke subs is fun | [00:39] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3568 @ 0.00035585 = 1.2697 BTC [+] | [00:44] |
| * | BingoBoingo remembers being a Junior in college and contemplating buying a giant pile of Liberty Dollars. Then I go BTC to silver around $100/BTC, Should have got those liberty dollars and went the other direction. | [00:46] |
| BingoBoingo | ;;ticker | [00:58] |
| gribble | Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 368.01, Best ask: 368.11, Bid-ask spread: 0.10000, Last trade: 368.11, 24 hour volume: 12473.27401807, 24 hour low: 360.0, 24 hour high: 378.99, 24 hour vwap: 368.463672328 | [00:58] |
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| BingoBoingo | Why not just fucking use Free or Dragonfly? https://github.com/bitrig/bitrig/wiki/Roadmap Ah startup money! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8701936 | [01:12] |
| assbot | Roadmap · bitrig/bitrig Wiki · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1vu4vDZ ) | [01:12] |
| assbot | Bitrig 1.0 Released – OpenBSD fork | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1vu4vUk ) | [01:12] |
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| asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: the top comment really belongs in the record here | [01:18] |
| asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: you never know when the yc shitgnomes will zap it | [01:18] |
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| BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: I mean the fork they want already exists in Google's "android", a linux built with the OpenBSD libc | [01:19] |
| asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: their purpose was to destroy the original | [01:20] |
| asciilifeform | like termites. | [01:20] |
| asciilifeform | poetterings. | [01:20] |
| asciilifeform | There was a discussion about this on the OpenBSD misc mailing archives back in 2012: http://marc.info/?t=133961305400003&r=1&w=2 Theo's initial response to the thread, which may help illuminate the situation, was: "Except for the fact that it is bullshit. They started the fork because they got kicked out because one developer (Marco) hired 5 other developers for his startup company, and attempted to hire around 10 other deve | [01:20] |
| asciilifeform | lopers in a sneaky and underhanded way. They were told, oh i forget they were "asked", to not tell anyone else in OpenBSD that this was happening, probably because people "including Theo" would be upset. Funny thing is, I've never been upset about the 20+ OpenBSD and ex-OpenBSD developers who now work for google. Previously, many of those developers were in critical positions in the development team. As they were suddenly hire | [01:20] |
| asciilifeform | d with such terms and conditions, they became more scarce in OpenBSD --perhaps because they suddenly got real busy with work, but also to avoid telling others that this was happening. Various projects lagged. To avoid telling a lie, they instead chose to not tell the truth. It had effects. It was dishonest of them to not tell their co-developers that they were creating vacuums in the development process. So because of those de | [01:20] |
| assbot | 'OpenBSD forked' thread - MARC ... ( http://bit.ly/1vu6msz ) | [01:20] |
| asciilifeform | cisions, they are now gone from OpenBSD. And now they miss it. So now, all these guys who work for the same company have started a fork. And it is directed by the guy who hired them in the first place. From where I stand, that is the truth. Yet none of that is in that article, because the truth hurts, doesn't it guys?" | [01:21] |
| asciilifeform | there. | [01:21] |
| BingoBoingo | !b 5 | [01:21] |
| assbot | Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/27ARP4K.txt ) | [01:21] |
| asciilifeform | notice that the perps ring all the typical 'leper's bells' of poetteringism. | [01:21] |
| asciilifeform | emphasis on 'modernity', etc. | [01:21] |
| asciilifeform | a willingness (and some basic ability) to play 'mean girls' | [01:22] |
| BingoBoingo | Right, and they want to kill big kernel lock, upon which I dunno you can build security. | [01:23] |
| asciilifeform | the thing that shitgnomes fear most is - sunlight. | [01:23] |
| asciilifeform | recall mr spamgun ? | [01:23] |
| BingoBoingo | At least in C | [01:23] |
| asciilifeform | his maniacal insistence on 'confidentiality' with every new would-be chump. | [01:23] |
| BingoBoingo | Mr. skip wires, Wi-fi cardano? | [01:23] |
| asciilifeform | him. | [01:23] |
| BingoBoingo | Ah, Mr. Flappy Plane | [01:23] |
| * | asciilifeform missed that one, but doesn't give a fuck | [01:24] |
| asciilifeform | while we're on the subject, | [01:24] |
| BingoBoingo | According to him flappy plane is a total mischaracterization of his vision | [01:24] |
| asciilifeform | i doubt that the openbsd devs were so direly impoverished that they agreed to serve enemy, knowing what he was | [01:25] |
| asciilifeform | they almost certainly laboured under an illusion of one kind or another. | [01:25] |
| BingoBoingo | I think the entire point of the OpenBSD financial crisis was an allergy to strings | [01:25] |
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| asciilifeform | the purpose of throwing sunlight down upon these creatures of the abyss, is - aside from flondoring - to warn the next set. | [01:26] |
| BingoBoingo | I dunno that there's a better reason at all. | [01:26] |
| BingoBoingo | Comming from Transylvania I'm sure mircea_popescu has experience slaughtering vampires with sunlight | [01:27] |
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| BingoBoingo | !up gsdgdfs | [01:29] |
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| decimation | the only feature on the list of improvements that I find remotely appealing is the fdisk tool | [01:32] |
| decimation | openbsd disk partitioning is kinda annoying | [01:32] |
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| BingoBoingo | decimation: Well Hammer2fs might happen before 5.9 or 6.0... | [01:33] |
| BingoBoingo | But seriously OpenBSD disk partitioning is MUCH better than Solaris 9 and 10 | [01:34] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48535 @ 0.00036034 = 17.4891 BTC [+] {4} | [01:34] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73517 @ 0.00037288 = 27.413 BTC [+] {3} | [01:35] |
| decimation | heh well that's true | [01:36] |
| decimation | LVM is annoying to configure but it is highly flexible | [01:37] |
| mod6 | it's just old school, thats all. | [01:37] |
| BingoBoingo | Cylinders and shit aren't that hard | [01:37] |
| decimation | well, the whole thing is going to be shot in the head when high speed non-volatile memory is common | [01:38] |
| decimation | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=03-12-2014#943161 | [01:39] |
| assbot | Logged on 03-12-2014 00:37:16; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: because the whole disk-ram dichotomy is predicated on volatile ram. | [01:39] |
| BingoBoingo | So, a lawyer is inquiring what my hourly rate is as an expert witness... What does everyone else charge? | [01:40] |
| decimation | lol | [01:40] |
| BingoBoingo | Super serious here | [01:40] |
| BingoBoingo | Big firm in Chicago so I want to ad a Chicago sucks surcharge | [01:41] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48000 @ 0.00037567 = 18.0322 BTC [+] | [01:44] |
| decimation | my company sells my time at $210 per hour, but that's bezzle rates with bezzle qualifications | [01:44] |
| BingoBoingo | Seriously though, what does an expert witness make? | [01:44] |
| decimation | well, it's a supply and demand thing right? | [01:44] |
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| BingoBoingo | I'm fine quoting a price in bezzel dollars | [01:44] |
| BingoBoingo | !up Vexual | [01:44] |
| * | assbot gives voice to Vexual | [01:44] |
| Vexual | bout 180 should slot you in politely between the photocopier kid and the big boys | [01:45] |
| decimation | lol https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2014/dec/04/pentagon-finally-details-its-weapons-cops-giveaway/ << "Since 2006, police in Winthrop Harbor, Ill., a village of 6,700 along the shore of Lake Michigan, has received 10 helicopters, one mine-resistant armored vehicle and two Humvees, and other equipment, worth more than $6.5 million." | [01:49] |
| assbot | The Pentagon Finally Details its Weapons-for-Cops Giveaway | Muckrock ... ( http://bit.ly/1vubnRN ) | [01:49] |
| decimation | maintenance on those helicopters alone would run easily a couple mil per year. this must be some kind of laundry | [01:50] |
| assbot | dgeats +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 | [01:51] |
| BingoBoingo | !up dgeats | [01:51] |
| * | assbot gives voice to dgeats | [01:51] |
| BingoBoingo | hello dgeats | [01:52] |
| dgeats | just make it an even 1 BTC | [01:52] |
| BingoBoingo | The hassel of going to Chicago is expensive | [01:53] |
| Vexual | plus expenses | [01:53] |
| decimation | yeah duh | [01:53] |
| ben_vulpes | ;;bc,stats | [01:55] |
| gribble | Current Blocks: 332932 | Current Difficulty: 4.000747027127126E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 334655 | Next Difficulty In: 1723 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 23 hours, 10 minutes, and 0 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 36758772733.1 | Estimated Percent Change: -8.12023 | [01:55] |
| ben_vulpes | master bitcoin repository repository is currently at 295000 | [01:55] |
| asciilifeform | maintenance on those helicopters alone would run easily a couple mil per year << lol maintenance. they get brand new ones. | [01:55] |
| ben_vulpes | a full 100k+ blocks behind | [01:55] |
| ben_vulpes | a wait oom error | [01:55] |
| decimation | asciilifeform: brand new helicopters require maintenance too | [01:55] |
| asciilifeform | as the police choppermeister where i live cheerfully admitted during a public show&tell. | [01:55] |
| decimation | plus I thought they were getting busted down old war birds | [01:56] |
| asciilifeform | decimation: nah, replacement works fine. | [01:56] |
| asciilifeform | ad infinitum. | [01:56] |
| decimation | heh | [01:56] |
| decimation | 10 helicopters = 1 flying? | [01:56] |
| asciilifeform | they aren't getting 'apache', no. | [01:56] |
| asciilifeform | small general-purpose choppers with thermovisors. | [01:56] |
| decimation | 'little bird' | [01:56] |
| decimation | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MD_Helicopters_MH-6_Little_Bird | [01:57] |
| assbot | MD Helicopters MH-6 Little Bird - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1vucCjQ ) | [01:57] |
| asciilifeform | police choppers don't shoot. (why would they need to ?) | [01:58] |
| decimation | demilitarized of course | [01:58] |
| decimation | probably not little birds though, probably something more like UH-1 | [01:59] |
| asciilifeform | actually what i saw (forgot precisely what brand!) was a tiny thing with a jet engine. big enough for two men and a bulbous camera, and two hours of jp-4. | [02:00] |
| decimation | yeah, that's like the little bird | [02:00] |
| decimation | I think if I were to buy an aircraft I would get a turboprop or small jet | [02:01] |
| decimation | due to ubiquity of jp-4 | [02:01] |
| decimation | asciilifeform: one wonders how much longer usg can afford choppermeisters when drones are obviously better and cheaper | [02:04] |
| decimation | except in actually moving cargo & humans | [02:04] |
| asciilifeform | when they stop bothering to make arrests. | [02:04] |
| asciilifeform | policeman - arrests. drone - aha, sure. | [02:04] |
| ben_vulpes | "tase and loiter" | [02:05] |
| ben_vulpes | "if necessary - tase again" | [02:05] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 42 @ 0.098 = 4.116 BTC [-] | [02:05] |
| Vexual | they'd be good at atms | [02:05] |
| ben_vulpes | repeat until scoopbot arrives for inert meatsack. | [02:05] |
| decimation | asciilifeform: my impression upon listening to police helicopter chatter is tha a majority of the calls for a helicopter come when either a kid wonders off or some perp tries to run from the po-lice | [02:06] |
| decimation | both of those missions could easily be performed by drone | [02:06] |
| asciilifeform | don't forget the traffic jobs. | [02:06] |
| decimation | eh, my impression is that they don't enforce traffic from the air much | [02:06] |
| decimation | or if they do, it's usually in cooperation with cops on the ground | [02:07] |
| asciilifeform | everything with cops on the ground | [02:07] |
| decimation | maryland is famous for having speed traps where a whole gang of cops wait - bravely stepping into the roadway and flagging speeders | [02:07] |
| decimation | the gang can absorb many at a time | [02:07] |
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| asciilifeform | at any rate, once there are sufficiently many surplus rotating wing drones, they will be written off and handed to city police depts | [02:08] |
| asciilifeform | (fixed-wing drones aren't particularly useful in a city) | [02:08] |
| decimation | why not | [02:08] |
| asciilifeform | can't loiter | [02:09] |
| decimation | if the camera has automatic gimble, it hardly matters if the craft is stationary | [02:09] |
| decimation | gimbal | [02:09] |
| decimation | fixed-wing aircraft are much more fuel efficient | [02:09] |
| asciilifeform | chopper can sit down on a roof and film. | [02:10] |
| asciilifeform | efficient. | [02:10] |
| decimation | heh true | [02:10] |
| ben_vulpes | i was noodling on a fully-actuated flying wing last night. | [02:10] |
| BingoBoingo | ben_vulpes: Tase is part of why the UNHCR is shitting on USG atm | [02:10] |
| ben_vulpes | 2 turbines perpendicular to long axis, with piping adequate to vector the thing around any of its axes. | [02:11] |
| decimation | ben_vulpes: was this a remote-control aircraft? | [02:11] |
| ben_vulpes | adequate, but also wicked performance gained by virtue of being able to control angle of attack. | [02:11] |
| ben_vulpes | decimation: it'd have to have the controller onboard. | [02:12] |
| asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: are you familiar with china's reply to 'why did you roll up the (tiananmen) students (molotov-armed, by some reliable accounts - also with grenades) with tanks ?' | [02:12] |
| ben_vulpes | probably flight planner too. | [02:12] |
| decimation | kinda like the 'osprey' | [02:12] |
| asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: indignant (spontaneously or compensated, either) foreigners asked, 'why didn't you tase them, use tear gas' | [02:13] |
| Vexual | asciilifeform: is it beacuse they didn't have swarms of irritant devlivery drones? | [02:13] |
| decimation | with enough raw thrust, aerodynamics don't matter, can dance your vectoring fighter jet tango-style | [02:13] |
| BingoBoingo | lol | [02:13] |
| asciilifeform | china answered: 'we aren't a d3m0cr4cy111!11, we don't stockpile instruments of crowd control, we're a poor country and prioritize useful things' | [02:13] |
| decimation | lol | [02:14] |
| Vexual | fair answer, they weren't expecting it | [02:14] |
| ben_vulpes | decimation: still gotta get from point a to b - i'd like to see a thing that eschewed flaps for ducted turbine exhaust. | [02:14] |
| decimation | ben_vulpes: well, personal jet packs are fun, but not exactly fuel efficient | [02:14] |
| asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-01-2014#461125 << see also thread. | [02:15] |
| assbot | Logged on 26-01-2014 19:43:38; asciilifeform: for instance, they see their country as having 'sat for the same exam' as the ussr, and passed, while the latter flunked. | [02:15] |
| ben_vulpes | decimation: that's why i've always advocated going straight up with jets and then drifting sideways for as long as possible | [02:15] |
| ben_vulpes | decimation: imagine a really high aspect ratio diamond | [02:15] |
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| decimation | that's an interesting idea | [02:15] |
| decimation | well, ultimately you could build a rocket that propels you to the high altitude winds of the stratosphere and unfolds massive delicate wings | [02:16] |
| ben_vulpes | two turbines aligned perpendicular to the long axis, with vent outputs from the turbines outputs all the way out at the tips of the diamond. | [02:16] |
| ben_vulpes | that way you have full control over pitch, roll, yaw | [02:16] |
| ben_vulpes | plus your main thrusters for "oomph" | [02:16] |
| ben_vulpes | with this kind of design it's trivial to turn end over end and stop extremely quickly. | [02:16] |
| decimation | isn't that kinda what the f-117 does | [02:17] |
| asciilifeform | ben_vulpes: answer then (i haven't any idea) - why is 'vtol' uncommon today ? | [02:17] |
| decimation | my understanding is that it wastes alot of fuel | [02:17] |
| ben_vulpes | decimation: not a "thrust reverser": flip the whole beast around its long axis | [02:18] |
| ben_vulpes | thrust is now reversed | [02:18] |
| ben_vulpes | asciilifeform: vtol requires ducting thrust orthogonally to operating thrust vector | [02:18] |
| decimation | ben_vulpes: would the diamond shape generate much lift? | [02:18] |
| ben_vulpes | wasteful | [02:18] |
| ben_vulpes | decimation: "diamond" << wave hands | [02:18] |
| decimation | 'osprey' is attempt to fix that | [02:18] |
| ben_vulpes | you can have a symmetric wing | [02:18] |
| ben_vulpes | so long as it has ducted thrust at the tips of both the long axis and short axis, you can arbitrarily dictate its angle of attack. | [02:19] |
| decimation | yeah I kinda see what you are getting at | [02:19] |
| ben_vulpes | (almost needless to say that the vectoring needs to go in both directions) | [02:19] |
| ben_vulpes | no gimbals | [02:19] |
| ben_vulpes | nothing but exhaust valves and delta-f control systems. | [02:20] |
| decimation | no but the thrust control would be complicated | [02:20] |
| ben_vulpes | what part? | [02:20] |
| BingoBoingo | Ah, lawyer backed off from needing an expert in Bitcoin after I posted rates. | [02:20] |
| asciilifeform | http://mlbuav.com/products-v-bat | [02:20] |
| assbot | Products :: V Bat | MLB Company - Complete Solutions for UAS Systems ... ( http://bit.ly/1vuh02e ) | [02:20] |
| asciilifeform | ^ peculiar flying toy | [02:20] |
| decimation | so how are you going to stabilize your flying wing? | [02:21] |
| ben_vulpes | asciilifeform: that's the only kinda vtol that'll work | [02:21] |
| ben_vulpes | decimation: active stabilization. | [02:21] |
| decimation | asciilifeform: that's neat, would be useful to have stowed in your submarine | [02:21] |
| decimation | right, active stabilization implies fast computers (fairly easy) with lots of fast reacting thrust valves right? | [02:22] |
| mats_cd03 | BingoBoingo: what was your asking rate | [02:23] |
| decimation | asciilifeform: note, there's not any external gimbaled camera | [02:24] |
| BingoBoingo | mats_cd03: $175/hr, 30 hour minimum. $5000 retainer. $300 per diem any day I travel. | [02:24] |
| mats_cd03 | lol | [02:24] |
| BingoBoingo | I think that's cheap | [02:24] |
| decimation | other than the retainer that's pretty much in line for a qualified professional | [02:24] |
| ben_vulpes | decimation: bang bang pneumatic valves aren't terribly hard to put together. | [02:25] |
| ben_vulpes | pwm control. | [02:25] |
| BingoBoingo | retainer is essential. | [02:25] |
| BingoBoingo | Because qualified professional | [02:25] |
| decimation | ben_vulpes: it is a neat concept. It would probably make a neat little drone too | [02:25] |
| BingoBoingo | If I'm an expert I ought to be making more than the lawyers when I read and talk. | [02:26] |
| ben_vulpes | decimation: it's a wartime project. | [02:26] |
| BingoBoingo | And per diem is essential too, because if I'm going to chicago I'm not staying in a fucking Motel 8. I'm staying in the Sheraton, as a professional. | [02:26] |
| ben_vulpes | artists and armsmiths both need patrons. | [02:27] |
| decimation | but then again, it's not like flying wings are unknown to aircraft designers. I wonder why they aren't more popular | [02:27] |
| mircea_popescu | asciilifeform: there. <<< heh. | [02:27] |
| asciilifeform | http://www.fiddlersgreen.net/aircraft/SNECMA-Coleoptere/IMAGES/snecma-coleoptere-prep.jpg << flying arse | [02:28] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1vuiCJv ) | [02:28] |
| mircea_popescu | asciilifeform:they almost certainly laboured under an illusion of one kind or another. << that illusion is "money" | [02:28] |
| mircea_popescu | the sort you can't do anything with but that's ok. | [02:28] |
| mircea_popescu | lol @smegma coleopterae. | [02:29] |
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| asciilifeform | that was my first thought too! | [02:29] |
| asciilifeform | when first saw. | [02:29] |
| mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo: Comming from Transylvania I'm sure mircea_popescu has experience slaughtering vampires with sunlight << actually vampires are your friends. | [02:30] |
| mircea_popescu | ideally, your girlfriends. | [02:30] |
| BingoBoingo | !b 2 | [02:30] |
| assbot | Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0G2S6XR.txt ) | [02:30] |
| mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo: So, a lawyer is inquiring what my hourly rate is as an expert witness... What does everyone else charge? << go for 40. too low you won't seem that expert. too high they'll just get antonoderp. | [02:31] |
| BingoBoingo | 125 seems the minimum for non-medical with self respect | [02:32] |
| decimation | asciilifeform: the post-wwii era was full of weird vtol designs http://airandspace.si.edu/collections/artifact.cfm?object=nasm_A19730274000 | [02:32] |
| assbot | Convair XFY-1 Pogo | National Air and Space Museum ... ( http://bit.ly/1vujihX ) | [02:32] |
| mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo you looking at seak thing ? | [02:32] |
| asciilifeform | decimation: 'avrocar' | [02:32] |
| asciilifeform | best airplane. | [02:32] |
| BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: looked at it | [02:32] |
| mircea_popescu | Expert Witness Fees for Trial, File Review and Depositions | [02:33] |
| mircea_popescu | On average, experts charge significantly more for their time while testifying at trial and deposition than their time while conducting file reviews and preparing. The average hourly fee for all experts was $385 for in-court testimony, $353 for depositions and $254 for file reviews and preparation. The average hourly fee for trial testimony is 52% higher than the average hourly fee for file reviews and preparation. | [02:33] |
| mircea_popescu | this, in 2004 o.o | [02:33] |
| mircea_popescu | nuts the bezzle world. | [02:33] |
| BingoBoingo | Indeed | [02:33] |
| decimation | heh a flying roomba | [02:34] |
| asciilifeform | !s coanda effect | [02:34] |
| assbot | 0 results for 'coanda effect' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=coanda+effect | [02:34] |
| mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo so 140 then | [02:35] |
| decimation | asciilifeform: the soviets had a line of 'ground effect' aircraft if I recall | [02:35] |
| asciilifeform | hovercraft. | [02:35] |
| BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: If they ask again. | [02:35] |
| BingoBoingo | I'll still have to insist on minimum hours/retainer/compensation from suffering the cold north of Chicago | [02:36] |
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| ben_vulpes | asciilifeform: http://www.horizonhobby.com/products/umx-hyper-taxi-bnf-with-as3x-technology-EFLU4780 << pauper edition | [02:37] |
| assbot | UMX Hyper Taxi BNF with AS3X Technology | HorizonHobby ... ( http://bit.ly/1vSxe45 ) | [02:37] |
| decimation | asciilifeform: no, jets the fly just a few feet above the ground - ekranoplan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lun-class_ekranoplan | [02:37] |
| assbot | Lun-class ekranoplan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1vSxlMN ) | [02:37] |
| asciilifeform | aha it | [02:38] |
| asciilifeform | normally english folks call them hovercraft also. | [02:38] |
| ben_vulpes | "ground effect" << also | [02:38] |
| mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes: master bitcoin repository repository is currently at 295000 << bitcoin ovopository ? | [02:38] |
| asciilifeform | lol! | [02:38] |
| asciilifeform | if bitcoin ovipositor, where is proboscis ? | [02:38] |
| mircea_popescu | isn't jp-4 the thing that gets a lot of static if it flows ? | [02:40] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46700 @ 0.00036609 = 17.0964 BTC [-] {2} | [02:41] |
| asciilifeform | jp-4 << 1/2 kerosene/gasoline iirc | [02:41] |
| decimation | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JP-4_(fuel) << "JP-4 was a non-conductive liquid, prone to build up static electricity when being moved through pipes and tanks. As it is volatile and has a low flash point, the static discharge could cause a fire. Beginning in the the mid-1980s an antistatic agent was added to the fuel to lower the charge buildup and decrease the corresponding risk of fires. Flow rates must be controlled, and all the | [02:42] |
| decimation | equipment used must be electrically interconnected and well grounded." | [02:42] |
| assbot | JP-4 (fuel) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1vSy40E ) | [02:42] |
| decimation | interesting I didn't know that | [02:42] |
| asciilifeform | nonpolar hydrocarbons tend to conduct poorly, news at 11 | [02:42] |
| mircea_popescu | oft depicted in media, this problem | [02:43] |
| mircea_popescu | anyway. i thought it was phased out. | [02:43] |
| decimation | it was apparently in favor of jp-8 | [02:43] |
| decimation | or 'jet-a' in the civilian world | [02:43] |
| decimation | at any rate, I was distinguishing jet fuel from '100LL' commonly used in small piston engines | [02:45] |
| decimation | LL = "low lead" | [02:46] |
| mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes: with this kind of design it's trivial to turn end over end and stop extremely quickly. <<< someone's fascinated with dragonflies. | [02:47] |
| mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo: Ah, lawyer backed off from needing an expert in Bitcoin after I posted rates. << how much did you post ? | [02:48] |
| mircea_popescu | heh. you overdid it. | [02:48] |
| mircea_popescu | nothing says pro quite like low rates in that biz. | [02:49] |
| BingoBoingo | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-12-2014#945976 | [02:49] |
| assbot | Logged on 05-12-2014 05:21:20; BingoBoingo: mats_cd03: $175/hr, 30 hour minimum. $5000 retainer. $300 per diem any day I travel. | [02:49] |
| ben_vulpes | mircea_popescu: "dragonflies" << well who doesn't love excellent cruising performance *and* agility?! | [02:49] |
| mircea_popescu | you know the dragonfly is 90% eye right ? | [02:49] |
| decimation | natures drone! | [02:50] |
| mircea_popescu | totally. | [02:50] |
| ben_vulpes | http://dpaste.com/2V8C3AV | [02:51] |
| assbot | dpaste: 2V8C3AV ... ( http://bit.ly/1vSz70w ) | [02:51] |
| asciilifeform | ben_vulpes: dragonfly << consider waveguide motor. precisely the missing ingredient for practical ornithopter with fully-articulated wings. | [02:51] |
| ben_vulpes | asciilifeform: your cable flexer? | [02:51] |
| asciilifeform | aha. | [02:51] |
| asciilifeform | no need for joints, lubrication... | [02:52] |
| decimation | asciilifeform: it would be interesting to see how much heat is lost in the cable flex movement | [02:52] |
| ben_vulpes | 0.5.3 is luke_jr's fault | [02:52] |
| mod6 | :D | [02:52] |
| ben_vulpes | 0.5.3 *wedge* is luke_jr's fault | [02:52] |
| asciilifeform | one day someone who gives a shit can reinvent it. | [02:52] |
| mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes whassat paste ? | [02:52] |
| decimation | ben_vulpes: so you fixed it? | [02:52] |
| asciilifeform | anyone verify that 0.5.3 unwedges if magic constant is changed ? | [02:52] |
| asciilifeform | last i recall, it was only kako's experiment with 0.7 | [02:53] |
| ben_vulpes | asciilifeform: can't really see anything like that working anywhere near the speed of sound. | [02:53] |
| ben_vulpes | asciilifeform: i've an 0.5.3 that's happily chugging along with the new db config vals. | [02:53] |
| asciilifeform | ben_vulpes: speed of sound - no. synthetic bird, insect - sure. | [02:53] |
| asciilifeform | happily chugging with or without manually masturbated along the way? | [02:53] |
| mircea_popescu | heh. | [02:53] |
| ben_vulpes | the BDB docs themselves say to experiment with the lock number until it works | [02:53] |
| decimation | lol | [02:53] |
| asciilifeform | not one reset ? | [02:53] |
| ben_vulpes | i've not rebooted it. | [02:54] |
| asciilifeform | did not exhaust memory either ? | [02:54] |
| asciilifeform | suspicious that leak would be predicated entirely on this | [02:54] |
| decimation | http://web.stanford.edu/class/cs276a/projects/docs/berkeleydb/ref/lock/max.html | [02:55] |
| assbot | Berkeley DB Reference Guide: Configuring locking: sizing the system ... ( http://bit.ly/1vSzEQ9 ) | [02:55] |
| ben_vulpes | i stopped it at 251442 to snapshot the db, and again at 260*** (something) to provide resources to transfer the blockchain bzip elsewhere | [02:55] |
| mats_cd03 | http://meredithmmyers.com/ratmap | [02:55] |
| assbot | Ratmap ... ( http://bit.ly/1vSzHLK ) | [02:56] |
| ben_vulpes | asciilifeform: i'll let you know if it exhausts memory. | [02:56] |
| ben_vulpes | that said if it does - oh well. | [02:56] |
| ben_vulpes | there are worse things in the world than restarting the thing occasionally while work proceeds. | [02:56] |
| mod6 | well, aside from that, i think the goal is still to rip out BDB eventually anyway. | [02:57] |
| mod6 | first, we just wanted to bypass the wedge block so we can catch up to the main chain. | [02:57] |
| * | Namworld has quit () | [02:57] |
| ben_vulpes | an 0.5.3 that needs a kick in the ass a few times a day but can still catch up to chainhead trumps a power ranger hardfork with no published and serenissima-signed alternative. | [02:58] |
| mod6 | first make it work, then we make it pretty | [02:58] |
| ben_vulpes | asciilifeform would hold that "it doesn't work". | [02:58] |
| asciilifeform | aha. | [02:58] |
| asciilifeform | what other ways is it capable of failing in | [02:58] |
| ben_vulpes | let's find out! | [02:58] |
| decimation | infinitely many | [02:58] |
| asciilifeform | and can anyone even give a well-founded answer to this question | [02:58] |
| ben_vulpes | as we say during deploys | [02:58] |
| ben_vulpes | "what could go wrong?!" | [02:58] |
| ben_vulpes | asciilifeform: not i. | [02:59] |
| ben_vulpes | perhaps your "carpenter". | [02:59] |
| BingoBoingo | !up Vexual | [02:59] |
| * | assbot gives voice to Vexual | [02:59] |
| * | asciilifeform was lying in bed, delirious, and switched on a tablet toy, wanted to read about erasure codes to take mind off snot. and found an article with colourful pictures, sorta explaining one kind. and with horror saw the author: | [03:00] |
| asciilifeform | buterin. | [03:00] |
| asciilifeform | yes, that one. | [03:00] |
| asciilifeform | (what truck he has with this subject? who can say) | [03:01] |
| mircea_popescu | im starting to suspect buterin is actually a manufactured identity. | [03:02] |
| BingoBoingo | http://www.stltoday.com/news/national/denver-cops-hit-by-car-amid-ferguson-protest-one-in/article_d6668b28-04b0-52fb-be6b-9c45f76c9165.html | [03:02] |
| assbot | 4 Denver cops hit by car amid Ferguson protest; one in critical condition : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1vSAs7E ) | [03:02] |
| ben_vulpes | mircea_popescu: i actually met him once. | [03:02] |
| asciilifeform | https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/08/16/secret-sharing-erasure-coding-guide-aspiring-dropbox-decentralizer | [03:02] |
| assbot | ethereum blog | | [03:02] |
| ben_vulpes | "him". | [03:02] |
| asciilifeform | ^ the article in question | [03:02] |
| mircea_popescu | some people "actually" met pirate once. | [03:02] |
| asciilifeform | bourbaki! | [03:02] |
| mircea_popescu | no. | [03:02] |
| Vexual | i think i may have met that mastercard derp | [03:02] |
| mircea_popescu | more like, princess leia | [03:02] |
| ben_vulpes | well, someone with the face plastered everywhere. | [03:03] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59100 @ 0.00037829 = 22.3569 BTC [+] {2} | [03:03] |
| decimation | asciilifeform: you might like this book http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/mackay/itila/book.html | [03:03] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1vSABb8 ) | [03:03] |
| ben_vulpes | i refuse to claim knowledge of anything anymore. downright dangerous. | [03:03] |
| BingoBoingo | http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/ferguson-commission-member-charged-with-assault-of-city-hall-guard/article_b6244110-6ab7-5401-9e02-a07ef7d89195.html | [03:03] |
| assbot | Ferguson Commission member charged with assault of City Hall guard : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1vSAGLV ) | [03:03] |
| BingoBoingo | ^ Dude sat next to Obama Monday, charged Thursday | [03:04] |
| Vexual | he looks like danny brewster | [03:05] |
| asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: mouthed an insult at his royal highness ? | [03:05] |
| BingoBoingo | Maybe? | [03:05] |
| asciilifeform | ben_vulpes: where met buterin ? | [03:06] |
| decimation | mackay kind of revived gallager's work in the 60's with ldpc codes | [03:07] |
| ben_vulpes | asciilifeform: a "bitcoin" "conference" | [03:07] |
| Vexual | "I certainly don't want anyone mining technology ... away from my control" <
| [03:08] |
|
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18725 @ 0.0003632 = 6.8009 BTC [-] | [03:08] |
| ben_vulpes | back when he was still playing "journo" | [03:08] |
| mircea_popescu | $conference | [03:08] |
| empyex | mircea_popescu: Next conference starts in 4 months and 12 days. Estimated cost today: 3.55699272 BTC (Details: http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/ ) | [03:08] |
| asciilifeform | wat. | [03:08] |
| mircea_popescu | ^ this btw is a month away from being moar expensive | [03:08] |
| Vexual | can you just buy usd to offset expenses? | [03:09] |
| Vexual | pay more in bc, but arrive with 12 trillion pesos | [03:11] |
| ben_vulpes | Vexual: or take more btc. arsfolk love btc. | [03:12] |
| ben_vulpes | love even more buying them with pesos. | [03:12] |
| ben_vulpes | night all | [03:12] |
| mircea_popescu | so far, 4 people confirmered. | [03:17] |
| * | asciilifeform counts coin originally from mircea_popescu remaining in piggy, turns out it almost exactly equals above number. | [03:19] |
| mircea_popescu | lol win. | [03:19] |
| mircea_popescu | and ftr, last time we did wags and it didn't work out | [03:20] |
| mircea_popescu | so this time you'll have to sleep with hookers. | [03:20] |
| asciilifeform | what were wags? | [03:20] |
| Vexual | wives and girlfriends | [03:20] |
| mircea_popescu | ;;usd wag | [03:20] |
| gribble | Error: "usd" is not a valid command. | [03:20] |
| asciilifeform | aha! | [03:20] |
| mircea_popescu | DAMN RIGHT | [03:20] |
| * | asciilifeform had an automatically zoophiliac mental picture of what 'wags' entails | [03:21] |
| * | asciilifeform is still in an odd mental space | [03:21] |
| mircea_popescu | it's not that far off from the truth. | [03:21] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55562 @ 0.0003803 = 21.1302 BTC [+] {2} | [03:21] |
| Vexual | a stack of benjis | [03:22] |
| Vexual | the dog and the banknote | [03:22] |
| asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: http://www.ebay.com/itm/KR1801VM1-USSR-Soviet-Russian-Planar-Clone-of-DEC-PDP-11-Digital-Main-CPU-/380993522876 << for you | [03:23] |
| assbot | KR1801VM1 USSR Soviet Russian Planar Clone of Dec PDP 11 Digital Main CPU | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1vSDb0H ) | [03:23] |
| decimation | lol pdp11 on a chip | [03:24] |
| asciilifeform | my elder brother learned to program on these. | [03:25] |
| decimation | can run unix | [03:25] |
| asciilifeform | the physical package is typical of the culture | [03:26] |
| Vexual | what it doubles as a hammer? | [03:26] |
| asciilifeform | the staggered pins | [03:27] |
| Vexual | oh, for big fingers? | [03:27] |
| asciilifeform | afaik ussr did not churn out 'surface mount' process until the very end years. | [03:27] |
| asciilifeform | it was all hand - or, at the most l33t factories - wave - solder. | [03:28] |
| asciilifeform | http://sovietsouvenirs.com/catalog/images/ic/k145re1-6-1.jpg | [03:28] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1vSDKaP ) | [03:28] |
| asciilifeform | ^ example of another | [03:28] |
| * | assbot removes voice from Vexual | [03:29] |
| mircea_popescu | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hn2WA5RB5k | [03:31] |
| assbot | I Had Sex With Your Mama (The Jerry Springer Show) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1vSE4Xg ) | [03:31] |
| decimation | asciilifeform: why planar package for hand soldering? why not dip? | [03:32] |
| decimation | !up Vexual | [03:32] |
| * | assbot gives voice to Vexual | [03:32] |
| asciilifeform | decimation: holes cost | [03:33] |
| decimation | heh | [03:33] |
| decimation | need plating machine, need drill press? | [03:33] |
| mircea_popescu | and in the other color scheme : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg6ddfYOd8w | [03:33] |
| assbot | Mom Your Man Paid Me For Sex (The Jerry Springer Show) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1vSEih6 ) | [03:33] |
| asciilifeform | those items are present anyway. but wear on drills, time, defects, etc. | [03:33] |
| decimation | asciilifeform: did they do much wire wrap? | [03:34] |
| asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: http://www.ebay.com/itm/K1602RC2-Vintage-Quite-Rare-USSR-Soviet-Russian-Magnetic-Bubble-Domain-Memory-/151342346010 << to complete your project. yes, bubble memory. go find usa bubble memory. | [03:34] |
| assbot | K1602RC2 Vintage Quite RARE USSR Soviet Russian Magnetic Bubble Domain Memory | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1vSEnBr ) | [03:34] |
| decimation | I guess that costs - need pins, wire, etc | [03:34] |
| asciilifeform | decimation: nope | [03:34] |
| mats_cd03 | coming up on xmas. where's my cardano?! | [03:37] |
| mircea_popescu | asciilifeform's working oin coughing it up | [03:37] |
| * | asciilifeform coughs | [03:37] |
| mircea_popescu | he decided wetware is best after all. | [03:37] |
| * | asciilifeform wipes spit off probe cable | [03:38] |
| asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: http://www.ebay.com/itm/UKNC-MS-0511-MC-Computer-MS-0202-Complex-Vintage-USSR-Soviet-Russian-DEC-PDP-11-/380857963982 << example of that pdp in natural habitat. same junk peddler. | [03:38] |
| assbot | Uknc MS 0511 MC Computer MS 0202 Complex Vintage USSR Soviet Russian Dec PDP 11 | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1vuuI5b ) | [03:38] |
| asciilifeform | this one - through-hole parts everywhere, reminiscent of (usa) 'commodore 64' | [03:39] |
| Vexual | needs moar flux | [03:39] |
| asciilifeform | photographs show rom debugger - more than you can say for your pc ! | [03:39] |
| decimation | ben_vulpes: I'm running a patched version of 0.5.3 with your fix, see if I can replicate results | [03:40] |
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| Vexual | i don't know much about electronics, but fuck i go thruogh some hookup wire | [03:40] |
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| Vexual | prolly why i like perl | [03:42] |
| decimation | Vexual: wire wrapping is for you then | [03:43] |
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| []bot | Bet placed: 2 BTC for Yes on "S&P 500 to post 8th straight quarter of gains" http://bitbet.us/bet/1053/ Odds: 63(Y):37(N) by coin, 51(Y):49(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.9275673 BTC. Current weight: 15,247. | [03:44] |
| Vexual | whats wire wrapping? | [03:48] |
| Vexual | oh hell no, it neads tinning | [03:49] |
| decimation | old-school electronics construction technique | [03:49] |
| decimation | nah no soldering required | [03:49] |
| mircea_popescu | you basically wrap wires around connectors | [03:49] |
| mircea_popescu | instead of soldering anything | [03:49] |
| Vexual | but thats my favourite part | [03:50] |
| mircea_popescu | course bakc when i was a kid we had this breadboard with springed clamps | [03:50] |
| asciilifeform | http://www.jameco.com/jameco/workshop/techtip/wirewrap_fig6.jpg | [03:50] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1vuweUU ) | [03:50] |
| * | asciilifeform also had springed clamps | [03:50] |
| decimation | http://www.jameco.com/jameco/workshop/techtip/wirewrap.html | [03:50] |
| assbot | Wire Wrapping: Cleaner, Faster, Safer Electronic Design ... ( http://bit.ly/1vuwgwe ) | [03:50] |
| decimation | lol | [03:50] |
| decimation | yeah student still use spring breadboard | [03:51] |
| decimation | it has poor characteristics with any kind of high frequency | [03:51] |
| asciilifeform | less-than-perfect wire wrapping was the doom of many an amateur digital gizmo | [03:51] |
| decimation | properly done it is more reliable than soldering | [03:51] |
| decimation | I think it is still used today to construct some satellites | [03:52] |
| asciilifeform | some of the early crays were in fact wire-wrapped. | [03:52] |
| asciilifeform | satellites << quite likely more reliable than lead-free solder, yes | [03:52] |
| Vexual | easier to probe for errors perhaps? | [03:52] |
| asciilifeform | but this is not a high bar | [03:52] |
| decimation | http://www.computerhistory.org/revolution/minicomputers/11/331/1903 | [03:52] |
| assbot | Gardner Denver wire wrap machine - CHM Revolution ... ( http://bit.ly/1vuwx2b ) | [03:52] |
| mircea_popescu | what's lead free solder made out of anyway ? | [03:52] |
| decimation | silver tin | [03:53] |
| decimation | with copper too I guess. it's prone to weird 'whisker' formation | [03:53] |
| decimation | asciilifeform: no, more reliable than lead solder with extreme temp and vibration | [03:53] |
| decimation | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whisker_(metallurgy) << whiskers | [03:54] |
| assbot | Whisker (metallurgy) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1vuwJ1r ) | [03:54] |
| Vexual | ive got a few spools of very old solder | [03:54] |
| asciilifeform | lead free >> i'm using Sn/Bi | [03:54] |
| asciilifeform | 42/58 allow | [03:54] |
| asciilifeform | *alloy | [03:55] |
| Vexual | sticks like poo to a blanket | [03:55] |
| asciilifeform | co$$$$ts | [03:55] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52879 @ 0.00036796 = 19.4574 BTC [-] | [03:56] |
| decimation | asciilifeform: is that the 'most reliable' alloy? | [03:56] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1735 @ 0.00124992 = 2.1686 BTC [+] {4} | [03:58] |
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| BingoBoingo | Interesting machine | [03:58] |
| asciilifeform | decimation: it's decent. chosen because of 138C melting point. | [03:58] |
| decimation | http://workmanship.nasa.gov/lib/insp/2%20books/links/sections/301_Discrete%20Wiring.html << nasa standards for wire wrap | [03:58] |
| assbot | DISCRETE WIRING - SOLDERLESS WRAPPED ELECTRICAL CONNECTIONS - WIRE WRAP ... ( http://bit.ly/1vuxiZ5 ) | [03:58] |
| asciilifeform | decimation: will reflow in the equipment i have with very rough time curves and minimal damage to components. | [03:59] |
| decimation | makes sense. | [03:59] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15021 @ 0.00036796 = 5.5271 BTC [-] | [03:59] |
| asciilifeform | i've always thought laser spotweld would make a beautiful replacement for solder. | [04:00] |
| asciilifeform | but no one wants to rock this boat, it seems. | [04:00] |
| decimation | well, literally $$bn have been invested on the current path | [04:01] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30229 @ 0.00038125 = 11.5248 BTC [+] | [04:01] |
| decimation | which is basically the same argument as "but x86 has the warez" | [04:01] |
| asciilifeform | and in 1982 ru, pdp 'had the w4r3z' | [04:02] |
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| mircea_popescu | i wonder why no laser welding actually. | [04:04] |
| asciilifeform | there is some. | [04:04] |
| mircea_popescu | could be nicely pulsed, way faster than mechanical... | [04:04] |
| asciilifeform | Li batteries | [04:04] |
| asciilifeform | can't solder'em | [04:04] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1349 @ 0.00124995 = 1.6862 BTC [+] | [04:07] |
| asciilifeform | interestingly, Bi has... no stable isotopes. | [04:08] |
| asciilifeform | http://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/barely_radioactive << herr walker's explanation | [04:09] |
| assbot | Barely Radioactive Elements ... ( http://bit.ly/1vuyVWG ) | [04:09] |
| decimation | huh interesting. | [04:09] |
| decimation | well I'm going to retire, good evening gents | [04:10] |
| * | Now talking on #bitcoin-assets | [09:18] |
| * | Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com | [09:18] |
| * | Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 16:58:12 2014 | [09:18] |
| -assbot- | Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass. | [09:18] |
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| mircea_popescu | badon: But I don't trade bitcoin, I have no need of gribble. << lmao | [09:22] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28700 @ 0.00039043 = 11.2053 BTC [-] | [09:22] |
| mircea_popescu | "hey, I want to do x" "so get in wot" "but i have no need of it". well... | [09:22] |
| mircea_popescu | badon: My experience has been that these trust models are useless. <<< you are wrong. period and full stop. swallow this and change or get lost. also full stop. | [09:24] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37918 @ 0.0003843 = 14.5719 BTC [-] | [09:26] |
| mircea_popescu | mats_cd03: what a useless discussion of trust <<< that's what fucking happens with noobs ALL THE DAMNED TIME. But they know better! But why won't people who do thinks professionally consider their input! But amateurism is a do-ocracy! But reasons! But considerations! But he's not read five years of tardstalk so five years of tardstalk has never happened. Let's do it again! | [09:27] |
| mircea_popescu | etc etc etfuckingc. | [09:27] |
| mircea_popescu | at least they used to rob hayseeds in grand central. | [09:27] |
| mircea_popescu | anyway, anyone got a localbitcoins account that they're using ? is that thing any cereal ? | [09:28] |
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| cazalla | used it once for a buy, went ok, seems to be plenty of scammers too | [09:41] |
| mircea_popescu | aha | [09:42] |
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| mircea_popescu | http://diariocorreo.pe/politica/jorge-lanata-denuncia-que-consul-peruano-en-242971/ lol | [10:02] |
| assbot | Jorge Lanata denuncia que cónsul peruano en Argentina cambia dólares en mercado negro | Diario Correo ... ( http://bit.ly/1vvxt6k ) | [10:02] |
| nubbins` | i feel like | [10:08] |
| nubbins` | localbitcoins is ripe for scammers | [10:08] |
| nubbins` | something about they lock up funds in a peculiar way, with onus on btc seller to prove tx went thru? | [10:08] |
| mircea_popescu | i have no idea. | [10:16] |
| mircea_popescu | but ba bitcoin market is in complete shambles and im getting sick of it. | [10:16] |
| mircea_popescu | absolute fucking astroturfing. idiot faux-bitcoin-foundation types push this sort of arrangement where i dunno, they buy an empanada to random people to say they're "accepting bitcoin" then populate all sorts of crudiferous web2.0 apps, maps and random websites. | [10:17] |
| mircea_popescu | if you look at it isuperficially it appears there's "hundreds" of places in a 12 million inhabitant town, which is somehow notable (srsly ?). if you actually investigate it, you soon discover they're all fictitious. | [10:18] |
| mircea_popescu | sure, some guy kinda remembers someone buying him a beer to say something or the other with coinsomething in it. last year. | [10:18] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66400 @ 0.00039229 = 26.0481 BTC [+] {4} | [10:19] |
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| punkman | but coindesk said there are 8k convenience stores selling bitcoin !? http://www.coindesk.com/bitpagos-brings-bitcoin-8000-convenience-stores-ripio/ | [10:20] |
| assbot | 8,000 Convenience Stores in Argentina Now Sell Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1vvAiEo ) | [10:20] |
| nubbins` | lel | [10:20] |
| punkman | ripoffio | [10:20] |
| nubbins` | "your email address is invalid" "which one did i use?" "nubs@nubs.nubs" | [10:20] |
| nubbins` | "o" | [10:21] |
| mircea_popescu | total bs. | [10:23] |
| mircea_popescu | for the record, bitpagos is some delaware start-up, looking to be bought out. it's playing the numbers game. the numbers are based on what numbers usually are based on, in fraudlandia i mean the internet. | [10:25] |
| mircea_popescu | like whatsapp had 85 billion users, same deal. | [10:25] |
| nubbins` | i do keep hearing buzz about bitcoin in .ar but figured it was just like everywhere else | [10:25] |
| nubbins` | i.e. a couple neckbeards & wizards puffing themselves up | [10:25] |
| mircea_popescu | quite exactly that. | [10:25] |
| cazalla | don't they have a bitcoin embassy in ar? | [10:26] |
| nubbins` | as if argentinians are looking for ANOTHER currency to gamble with | [10:26] |
| nubbins` | as if two wasn't enough | [10:26] |
| nubbins` | cazalla you forgot the "" | [10:26] |
| mircea_popescu | buncha 20something year olds, "designers" and "web experts" and whatnot, with their bike and their 0.18 btc in some sort of wallet that cost them .28 | [10:26] |
| mircea_popescu | nubbins` ironically, it actually would be looking | [10:26] |
| mircea_popescu | except they're about as intellectually indolent as the mexican stereotype goes. | [10:27] |
| nubbins` | ;;google indolence breeds | [10:28] |
| gribble | indolent ulcer - definition of indolent ulcer by Medical dictionary: |
[10:28] |
| nubbins` | meh. my first result was "easy money breeds indolence" | [10:28] |
| nubbins` | o and the first edition of the bird book is now sold out | [10:30] |
| nubbins` | also got in touch w/ the manufacturer of the paper we've been using, they said they have one roll left that they'd be willing to cut into sheets for us... but it's 1000 sheets at $3.05ea | [10:30] |
| nubbins` | which, i have to say, is a fucking bogus price | [10:31] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71900 @ 0.00040001 = 28.7607 BTC [+] {4} | [10:33] |
| mircea_popescu | uh | [10:34] |
| mircea_popescu | these are broadsheets no ? | [10:34] |
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| nubbins` | 22x30" | [10:37] |
| nubbins` | that's pretty close to broadsheet, yes | [10:38] |
| mircea_popescu | 30 grams of paper at 3 bux, what could go wrong. | [10:38] |
| nubbins` | 106 grams, even! | [10:40] |
| mircea_popescu | uh. a broadsheet is like .4 sqm. what's this, 250 gram paper ? | [10:40] |
| nubbins` | precisely so | [10:41] |
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| nubbins` | this is the cover stock | [10:41] |
| nubbins` | 250gsm black cotton, acid-free, archival quality | [10:41] |
| mircea_popescu | ah | [10:41] |
| nubbins` | two deckled edges, one smooth side, one lightly toothed :D | [10:41] |
| mircea_popescu | well then stop bitching. | [10:41] |
| nubbins` | $3.05 is costly! | [10:42] |
| mircea_popescu | PAPER DOESNT GROW ON TREES YOU KNOW! | [10:42] |
| nubbins` | heh | [10:42] |
| nubbins` | this paper grows on plants 8) | [10:42] |
| nubbins` | i was expecting $2-$2.25 per sheet | [10:43] |
| fluffypony | PLANT MURDERER | [10:43] |
| nubbins` | actually the cotton plant does not die when you pick the cotton | [10:43] |
| nubbins` | (TYL) | [10:43] |
| fluffypony | I'm going to become carnivorous to stop abuse of plants | [10:43] |
| fluffypony | and throw jars of green paint at printers | [10:43] |
| nubbins` | anyway, i'll probably just switch over to Stonehenge paper after this shit runs out. | [10:43] |
| mircea_popescu | direct ab use, anyway | [10:44] |
| nubbins` | the pages are slightly less thick, 175gsm dead-tree | [10:44] |
| nubbins` | FSC certified, fwiw ;/ | [10:44] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65600 @ 0.00040753 = 26.734 BTC [+] {3} | [10:52] |
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| mircea_popescu | o look at that ? | [10:56] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34187 @ 0.00040897 = 13.9815 BTC [+] {2} | [10:58] |
| *justusranvier* | Chris Odom is in Rio right now | [11:04] |
| mats_cd03 | it breathes | [11:09] |
| kakobrekla | http://hiddenlolcdn.com/i700/20829.jpg | [11:16] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1zuhoNE ) | [11:16] |
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| mats_cd03 | http://www.vanityfair.com/business/2015/01/china-worlds-largest-economy | [11:52] |
| assbot | China Has Overtaken the U.S. as the World’s Largest Economy | Vanity Fair ... ( http://bit.ly/1ymtOVC ) | [11:52] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38708 @ 0.00040481 = 15.6694 BTC [-] {2} | [12:00] |
| mircea_popescu | kakobrekla lol | [12:00] |
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| mircea_popescu | mats_cd03 wasn't that sometime in 2011 ? | [12:09] |
| mircea_popescu | im pretty sure. | [12:09] |
| mats_cd03 | they're finally admitting it to themselves | [12:09] |
| mats_cd03 | article's written by stiglitz | [12:10] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39252 @ 0.00041164 = 16.1577 BTC [+] | [12:29] |
| mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2014/mpif-fmpif-november-2014-statement/ | [12:31] |
| assbot | MPIF (F.MPIF) November 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/15SG4q9 ) | [12:31] |
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| mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes thestringpuller you know that qntrra piece came out really good. | [12:53] |
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| danielpbarron | i've done quite a few face-to-face trades via localbitcoins; never used their escrow. just used it to post my phone number | [13:10] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 38080 @ 0.00004848 = 1.8461 BTC [+] {9} | [13:14] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45210 @ 0.00041844 = 18.9177 BTC [+] {2} | [13:25] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78661 @ 0.00042489 = 33.4223 BTC [+] {3} | [13:26] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5929 @ 0.00043608 = 2.5855 BTC [+] | [13:27] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55800 @ 0.00043713 = 24.3919 BTC [+] {3} | [13:39] |
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| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1300 @ 0.00124871 = 1.6233 BTC [+] {5} | [14:02] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7986 @ 0.00042456 = 3.3905 BTC [-] | [14:15] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27214 @ 0.00042456 = 11.554 BTC [-] | [14:31] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6846 @ 0.00042016 = 2.8764 BTC [-] | [14:35] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36800 @ 0.00040739 = 14.992 BTC [-] {2} | [14:55] |
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| ben_vulpes | [15:16] | |
| mats_cd03 | just a guy with an inflated sense of self. | [15:19] |
| mats_cd03 | who still worships at the altar of VC cock, apparently | [15:19] |
| ben_vulpes | indistinguishable from similar derps. | [15:19] |
| ben_vulpes | how are you, mats_cd03 ? | [15:19] |
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| mats_cd03 | kinda bored, i've been holding down an IT job since june | [15:20] |
| ben_vulpes | [15:20] | |
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| mats_cd03 | doing different things like studying the windows kernel, trying to learn malware analysis fundamentals and some of the tooling, docker deployment for dev and prod for a friend's website, and working on the courts circus project | [15:22] |
| ben_vulpes | sounds busy | [15:22] |
| mats_cd03 | wishing i'd be free of the 9-5 drudgery | [15:22] |
| undata | arbeit macht frei! | [15:23] |
| undata | or uh, too busy to notice otherwise | [15:23] |
| undata | also good morning to you both, or whatever time of day it may be | [15:24] |
| mats_cd03 | indeed | [15:24] |
| mats_cd03 | whats new ben_vulpes | [15:25] |
| ben_vulpes | dockerizing jenkins | [15:25] |
| ben_vulpes | derpy client keeps breaking the build | [15:25] |
| ben_vulpes | gotta send everyone polite notifications of who's responsible each and every time now to make a point. | [15:25] |
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| mats_cd03 | of course | [15:26] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1052 @ 0.00124991 = 1.3149 BTC [+] {3} | [15:28] |
| ben_vulpes | dockerizing so that deploying CI in the future is a matter of running the provisioner and waiting a minute. | [15:28] |
| assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1662 @ 0.00124995 = 2.0774 BTC [+] {2} | [15:29] |
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| mircea_popescu | !up Simonz | [16:13] |
| -assbot- | You voiced Simonz for 30 minutes. | [16:13] |
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| Simonz | ok | [16:14] |
| ben_vulpes | i'm intrigued to see if any of my contacts pick up when i come back. | [16:14] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43050 @ 0.00041341 = 17.7973 BTC [-] {2} | [16:39] |
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| cazalla | it's a week since bitcoin black friday and still, no stats from bitpay, it must've been a total flop | [16:44] |
| punkman | yeah who wants to buy things at ,,ticker | [16:45] |
| punkman | ;;ticker | [16:45] |
| gribble | Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 373.92, Best ask: 373.95, Bid-ask spread: 0.03000, Last trade: 373.92, 24 hour volume: 7766.05646487, 24 hour low: 363.99, 24 hour high: 374.2, 24 hour vwap: 370.711003633 | [16:45] |
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| cazalla | that habbo hotel bitcoin conference is on lol | [16:55] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63670 @ 0.00041726 = 26.5669 BTC [+] {2} | [16:59] |
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| mircea_popescu | http://www.global-bitcoin-alliance.org/local-Organizations << submitted to reddit by reddit mod piachu | [17:01] |
| assbot | GBA | Home Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1CNOLR6 ) | [17:01] |
| mircea_popescu | (if you don't recall her, the girl with the wooden block up her cunt from just-dice) | [17:01] |
| BingoBoingo | I thought she spelled her nick pikachu as in the pokemon | [17:06] |
| mircea_popescu | yeah well. | [17:07] |
| cazalla | pika pika | [17:08] |
| assbot | Distributed markets for drone operators : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1CNR6LX ) | [17:13] |
| BingoBoingo | http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/a-note-to-our-readers-20141205 | [17:16] |
| assbot | A Note to Our Readers | Rolling Stone ... ( http://bit.ly/1CNRtGf ) | [17:16] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54600 @ 0.00041015 = 22.3942 BTC [-] {2} | [17:34] |
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| mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2014/fderp-november-2014-statement/ | [18:02] |
| assbot | F.DERP November 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1zw7zP3 ) | [18:02] |
| mircea_popescu | soooo node.js finally dead ? | [18:07] |
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| mats_cd03 | wishful thinking | [18:13] |
| undata | mircea_popescu: someone needs to tell the js horde | [18:13] |
| mircea_popescu | no dude totally, it's gonna be forked like 6 more times over 2015 and by 2016 it'll be like css. | [18:15] |
| undata | that wouldn't surprise me | [18:15] |
| undata | mircea_popescu: did you see that some derps are forking openbsd? | [18:15] |
| undata | apparently it's not future enough so they're going to add more future | [18:15] |
| undata | https://github.com/bitrig/bitrig/wiki/Faq "fun to work on" | [18:17] |
| assbot | Faq · bitrig/bitrig Wiki · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1zwaC9V ) | [18:17] |
| mircea_popescu | my theory here being that substantial projects benefit from spurious forking, because it soaks up the idiots and sends them away. whereas spurious projects suffer from forking, because well, there's no way to distinguish the shards. | [18:17] |
| mircea_popescu | sort-of like how the same problems that sink centrally planned economies make market economies thrive | [18:17] |
| mircea_popescu | (the problem of choice, for instance) | [18:17] |
| undata | right, I'd assumed that anyone working on bitrig was rejected from openbsd proper | [18:17] |
| mircea_popescu | (and of course my way to distinguiosh the shards - "who's in charge ?" - is exactly acid to the eyes of the spuriomancers) | [18:18] |
| mats_cd03 | if you're interested in using fiverr again, mircea_popescu, https://www.fiverr.com/mihaela_predan looks like a solid candidate for ro translations | [18:19] |
| assbot | mihaela_predan | fiverr ... ( http://bit.ly/1zwaWWk ) | [18:19] |
| mircea_popescu | i fucking hate fiverrr | [18:19] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80606 @ 0.00039827 = 32.103 BTC [-] {3} | [18:20] |
| mircea_popescu | is there a word for the activity of "going through your private stash of girlfriend pr0n" ? | [18:20] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34272 @ 0.00038449 = 13.1772 BTC [-] {4} | [18:26] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99135 @ 0.00039693 = 39.3497 BTC [+] {3} | [18:27] |
| cazalla | http://qntra.net/2014/12/californias-dbo-we-have-authority-to-regulate-bitcoin/ | [18:29] |
| assbot | California's DBO: We Have Authority To Regulate Bitcoin | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1zwcX4G ) | [18:29] |
| mircea_popescu | mats_cd03 of course, seeing how the prize is ~10x a fiverr, that article is highly arbitrageable i guess. | [18:29] |
| mircea_popescu | bwahahah | [18:29] |
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| mats_cd03 | ya. i'm going out tonight, so if someone wants to, you've got about a day to beat me to it | [18:31] |
| mats_cd03 | found you a translator and everything! | [18:32] |
| mircea_popescu | cazalla http://qntra.net/2014/12/californias-dbo-we-have-authority-to-regulate-bitcoin/#comment-2952 :p | [18:33] |
| assbot | California's DBO: We Have Authority To Regulate Bitcoin | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1zwdPGx ) | [18:33] |
| BingoBoingo | Oh hey, let's expand asset forfiture http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2014/12/fraternity_sexual_assault_and_criminal_activities_states_should_use_gang.html | [18:38] |
| assbot | Fraternity sexual assault and criminal activities: States should use gang laws to seize their assets. ... ( http://bit.ly/1zweOGL ) | [18:38] |
| BingoBoingo | "Any responsible citizen can file suit" << Why write a derp piece then and not a suit? | [18:39] |
| mats_cd03 | because poor | [18:41] |
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| mats_cd03 | can't afford to pay to be laughed at by a judge | [18:44] |
| cazalla | mircea_popescu, but they came to a consensus so who are we to disagree? | [18:44] |
| cazalla | btw i logged into the habbo hotel confrence, all the sponsored booths are pretty much bots, hardly any guests either for me to troll : | [18:45] |
| mircea_popescu | aww! | [18:45] |
| mircea_popescu | wasn't there some massive thing with that game | [18:46] |
| mircea_popescu | where people kept trolling the players what was it | [18:47] |
| mircea_popescu | door blocking ? | [18:47] |
| mats_cd03 | https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Habbo_/B/lockade | [18:50] |
| assbot | Habbo /B/lockade - Encyclopedia Dramatica ... ( http://bit.ly/1zwh4Od ) | [18:50] |
| mats_cd03 | ben_vulpes: have you tried out Fig for docker deployments? its nice. | [18:50] |
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| asciilifeform | http://museum.ttrk.ee/sannata/DG_magazine/DowngradeN12a.pdf << 'Downgrade' magazine. | [18:52] |
| asciilifeform | (ru) | [18:52] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1zwhzrv ) | [18:52] |
| asciilifeform | who doesn't speak the language - can enjoy the photos. | [18:52] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62145 @ 0.00041037 = 25.5024 BTC [+] {2} | [18:53] |
| undata | mircea_popescu: "pool's closed due to aids" | [18:55] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21550 @ 0.00040582 = 8.7454 BTC [-] | [18:57] |
| mircea_popescu | hpw | [18:57] |
| mircea_popescu | how's that flaming idiocy in slate under "jurisprudence" ? | [18:57] |
| mircea_popescu | this is like filing swimsuits under fur coats. | [18:57] |
| mircea_popescu | Delta Kappa Epsilon’s Yale chapter is in its fourth year of a five-year suspension that followed an episode in which pledges paraded through a residential quad chanting, “No means yes; yes means anal.” | [18:58] |
| mircea_popescu | this is "gangs" nao. | [18:58] |
| cazalla | mircea_popescu, yeah, see mats_cd03 link | [19:02] |
| cazalla | some grandma also thought the meme was targetting her grandchildren https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAo7kRDrUmU | [19:03] |
| assbot | Woman Mis-Interprets Internet Meme as Racist - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1zwjH2s ) | [19:03] |
| BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Apparently but this isn't http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/12/05/st-louis-police-investigating-possible-hate-crime-in-bevo-neighborhood/ | [19:04] |
| assbot | UPDATED: Police Investigate Possible Hate Crime in Bevo Neighborhood « CBS St. Louis ... ( http://bit.ly/1zwjU63 ) | [19:04] |
| BingoBoingo | http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/feds-pair-stole-guns-discussed-selling-them-to-ferguson-protesters/article_a0934d77-182d-5f89-9057-ad82a03be51c.html << White teenagers | [19:10] |
| assbot | Feds: Pair stole 39 guns, discussed selling them to Ferguson protesters : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1zwkXTt ) | [19:10] |
| cazalla | BingoBoingo, "When the woman tried to drive around them, the suspects reportedly pulled out a firearm, so she stopped the car." the fuck? run em down! | [19:15] |
| BingoBoingo | That's probably what will happen next time. | [19:16] |
| cazalla | there is a video of that happening late last month https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiziJBg4Odc would score no points in carmageddon though, held back too much | [19:17] |
| assbot | Driver Plows into Ferguson Protest Crowd in Minneapolis (VIDEO) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1zwmokD ) | [19:17] |
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| BingoBoingo | http://qntra.net/2014/12/sergio-demian-lerner-hired-by-vessenes-foundation/ | [19:41] |
| assbot | Sergio Demian Lerner Hired By Vessenes' Foundation | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1vxlGEF ) | [19:41] |
| mats_cd03 | lol some kids are demonstrating nearby | [19:43] |
| undata | BingoBoingo: White teenagers << southern classlessness is colorblind | [19:44] |
| mats_cd03 | i can hear them from here and they're at least a mile away | [19:47] |
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| mats_cd03 | http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2014/12/05/tufts-students-protest-davis-square/ | [19:47] |
| assbot | Tufts Students Organizing Protest In Response to Eric Garner Decision ... ( http://bit.ly/1vxmjOw ) | [19:47] |
| mats_cd03 | i bet 1btc they give up before 7PM so they can pregame for a party tonight | [19:47] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14650 @ 0.00042025 = 6.1567 BTC [+] | [20:01] |
| jurov | mats_cd03: against whom? | [20:06] |
| jurov | the bet | [20:06] |
| mats_cd03 | im kidding | [20:07] |
| kakobrekla | no kids or kidding here. | [20:08] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70700 @ 0.00041886 = 29.6134 BTC [-] | [20:20] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38400 @ 0.00041557 = 15.9579 BTC [-] {2} | [20:26] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00042025 = 4.0554 BTC [+] | [20:31] |
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| asciilifeform | http://aklepov.com/index.php?page=elektronika-mk-85c-en (spammer's mirror, original long dead, archive dot org lacks photos) | [21:36] |
| assbot | Elektronika MK-85C | Клепов Анатолий Викторович ... ( http://bit.ly/1ynJjwD ) | [21:36] |
| asciilifeform | astoundingly shoddy en transl. | [21:36] |
| asciilifeform | http://www.foia.cia.gov/sites/default/files/document_conversions/89801/DOC_0000500644.pdf << usg gloats (internally) at great length and detail re: soviet computer industry. circa 1989. | [21:47] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1ynKLz5 ) | [21:47] |
| asciilifeform | http://oboguev.net/misc/vms-great-hole.html | [21:52] |
| assbot | VAX/VMS Great Security Hole ... ( http://bit.ly/1ynLpfW ) | [21:52] |
| asciilifeform | 'The hole let unprivileged user-mode program to switch into kernel mode. But more spectacularly, the hole was tightly coupled into unique architectural design of VMS, and in its sly and teasing way...' | [21:53] |
| asciilifeform | (in modern parlance - a 'local root') | [21:53] |
| ben_vulpes | mats_cd03: not enough yaml | [22:16] |
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| decimation | asciilifeform: have you come across this turd: http://www.wired.com/2014/11/darkhotel-malware/ | [23:14] |
| assbot | DarkHotel: A Sophisticated New Hacking Attack Targets High-Profile Hotel Guests | WIRED ... ( http://bit.ly/1u1NnjD ) | [23:14] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41840 @ 0.00043457 = 18.1824 BTC [+] | [23:22] |
| mircea_popescu | [23:28] | |
| mircea_popescu | cazalla who's this sergio fellow again ? | [23:28] |
| mats_cd03 | ben_vulpes: what do you need that for? | [23:33] |
| asciilifeform | hotels, evil access point, winblows trojans << snore | [23:33] |
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| * | asciilifeform back to bed if that's all there is | [23:33] |
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| asciilifeform | 'The key logger the attackers used also has Korean characters inside and appears to have ties to a coder in South Korea.' << lol, let's believe every byte of ascii text in the turd, aha | [23:35] |
| cazalla | mircea_popescu, i dunno, he's in BA, perhaps you can do an interview with the foundation's latest hire | [23:36] |
| asciilifeform | '“You have to be very skilled in kernel-level development and this is already quite a rare skillset,” says Vitaly Kamluk, principal security researcher at Kaspersky Lab.' << idiots | [23:36] |
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| asciilifeform | 'There’s no logical reason to use a kernel-level keylogger says Raiu since it’s so easy to write key loggers that hook the Windows API using about four lines of code. “But these guys prefer to do a kernel-level keylogger, which is about 300 kilobytes in size—the driver for the key logger—which is pretty crazy and very unusual.' << imbeciles | [23:36] |
| asciilifeform | SOP. | [23:36] |
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| asciilifeform | 'When victims attempt to connect to the WiFi network, they get a pop-up alert telling them their Adobe Flash player needs an update and offering them a file, digitally signed to make it look authentic, to download. If the victims accept they download, they get a Trojan delivered instead.' << run more winblows, 'high-profile executives,..., government agencies and NGOs and U.S. executives.' | [23:38] |
| asciilifeform | biodiesel. | [23:38] |
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| undata | Here, inject this syringe. | [23:39] |
| asciilifeform | aha. | [23:39] |
| asciilifeform | 'certified!' | [23:39] |
| undata | the guy looked like a doctor to me! | [23:39] |
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| asciilifeform | 'NSA-Level Infection Mechanism,' 'rare skillset,' my arse. | [23:40] |
| undata | !up warptangent | [23:40] |
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| decimation | asciilifeform: it seems to me that the advantages of a real-mode keylog are obvious | [23:41] |
| mircea_popescu | asciilifeform well, there's also 30something kinda fat prostitutes. | [23:41] |
| asciilifeform | how are these used ? | [23:41] |
| decimation | asciilifeform: but apparently they broke a 512-bit rsa cert! | [23:42] |
| asciilifeform | (the prostitutes, that is. 'real mode' per traditional terminology is what msdos runs in, not sure how this applies here) | [23:42] |
| mircea_popescu | whatever way you feel like i guess. | [23:42] |
| asciilifeform | 512 bit << i can do that here, lol | [23:42] |
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| decimation | heh I know | [23:42] |
| mircea_popescu | asciilifeform a no, this was re your "going to bed" line | [23:42] |
| asciilifeform | ahaha | [23:42] |
| decimation | leet h4x0rs everywhere | [23:43] |
| asciilifeform | 'yesterday's nobel is tomorrow's homework' was yesterday's proverb. today's is 'yesterday's homework is today's l33t 0day' | [23:43] |
| decimation | heh | [23:44] |
| mircea_popescu | cazalla intel sez he's the guy with the 2013 reports about "discoveries". https://bitslog.wordpress.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/ | [23:45] |
| assbot | The Well Deserved Fortune of Satoshi Nakamoto, Bitcoin creator, Visionary and Genius | Bitslog ... ( http://bit.ly/1s3CcHf ) | [23:45] |
| asciilifeform | lol that one ! | [23:45] |
| mircea_popescu | !up jborkl | [23:45] |
| -assbot- | You voiced jborkl for 30 minutes. | [23:45] |
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| jborkl | Thank you mircea | [23:46] |
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| jborkl | Wow, the MasterCard video was a disaster | [23:46] |
| mircea_popescu | anyway, since we're doing that sorta thing, i guess i never linked http://trilema.com/2014/bitcoin-in-argentina-exactly-nothing-to-do-with-the-derps/ | [23:47] |
| assbot | Bitcoin in Argentina : exactly nothing to do with the derps pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1rXLR7Q ) | [23:47] |
| undata | "One of the consequences of these graph is that if the real name of the sender of a single transaction belonging to the entity is identified, then Satoshi mystery identity will be revealed. I bet that this will happen in the days following this post." < hilarious | [23:47] |
| undata | now that I've made these graphs, clearly the hard work is done | [23:48] |
| mircea_popescu | kinda typical derpage. but anyway, fake foundation gotta work itself aground somehow. | [23:49] |
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| asciilifeform | work itself aground somehow << thus far there is an inexhaustible supply of... whatever it is | [23:51] |
| mircea_popescu | snot ? | [23:51] |
| asciilifeform | snot also. | [23:51] |
| mircea_popescu | !b 3 | [23:51] |
| assbot | Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1YXMQBR.txt ) | [23:51] |
| jborkl | Nice article mp | [23:52] |
| decimation | lol of the day https://www.joyent.com/blog/the-power-of-a-pronoun << One of the node.js core contributors, Ben Noordhuis, rejected a pull request that eliminated the use of a gendered pronoun in libuv. | [23:53] |
| assbot | The Power of a Pronoun - Blog - Joyent ... ( http://bit.ly/1s3DAK7 ) | [23:53] |
| mircea_popescu | win. | [23:53] |
| decimation | http://blog.nodejs.org/2013/12/03/bnoordhuis-departure/ << "As of this past weekend, Ben Noordhuis has decided to step away from Node.js and libuv, and is no longer acting as a core committer." | [23:53] |
| assbot | Ben Noordhuis's Departure ... ( http://bit.ly/1s3DHVX ) | [23:53] |
| mircea_popescu | lose. | [23:53] |
| decimation | apparently they kicked the guy off the project because of his refusal to commit a pronoun patch | [23:53] |
| mircea_popescu | decimation you understand what's at stake there right ? | [23:54] |
| decimation | now this guy forked node.js | [23:54] |
| mircea_popescu | guys like hearn, gmaxwell etc , as well as guys like poettering etc, as well as guys like that derpy chick whatever her name is | [23:54] |
| mircea_popescu | are "core contributors" because people count patches | [23:54] |
| mircea_popescu | but nobody looks at WHAT THEY WERE. | [23:54] |
| mircea_popescu | astroturfing to the max. | [23:54] |
| mircea_popescu | so the guy prevented a politruk from getting his "contributions" count up. | [23:54] |
| jborkl | Well one of the core contributors for bitcoin flipped hamburgers not too long ago | [23:55] |
| mircea_popescu | which is a major problem, because the us nomenklatura is fighting real hard to get "scientific" credetnials. | [23:55] |
| decimation | right, but the guy wasn't an employee of joyent | [23:55] |
| asciilifeform | nobody looks at WHAT THEY WERE << nobody but a hatecriminal aha. | [23:55] |
| decimation | anyway, it's kinda like the retard version of the openbsd fork | [23:55] |
| mircea_popescu | AS IF the von flondor process won't see through that | [23:55] |
| mircea_popescu | (more likely, so when they get hanged by their own guts, the remainder, ever less numerous crowd of them can falsely claim that we're attaching "science" | [23:56] |
| mircea_popescu | instead of what it is - scum.) | [23:56] |
| jborkl | Mp, did you ever join the bitcoin foundation? | [23:57] |
| asciilifeform | intelligent, conscious tumours, ever in search of ways to embed deeper into healthy tissue (what little remains) | [23:57] |
| decimation | during the french revolution, plenty of scum pseudo-scientists ganged together to hang actual people | [23:57] |
| mircea_popescu | no. | [23:57] |
| jborkl | Lol, joke | [23:57] |
| mircea_popescu | asciilifeform they're just minimaxing. | [23:57] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00044214 = 6.5879 BTC [+] | [23:59] |
| decimation | "Joyent raised venture capital for the first time in November 2009[42] from Intel and Dell.[43] Joyent's early institutional investors include El Dorado Ventures, Epic Ventures, Peter Thiel (Seed Round),[44] Intel Capital (Series A, B Rounds),[45] Greycroft Partners (Series A, B Rounds),[46] Liberty Global (Series B Round). In January, 2012, Joyent secured a new round of funding totalling $85 million from Weather Investment II, | [23:59] |
| decimation | Accelero Capital, and Telefónica Digital.[47] In October 2014, Joyent raised an additional $15 million in Series D funding from existing investors. [48]" | [23:59] |
| decimation | for the record | [23:59] |
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