Forum logs for 04 Feb 2015
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
decimation | I was watching incoming packets on my main router | [00:00] |
decimation | went from something to zero, but it took about 30 seconds | [00:00] |
cazalla | http://www.cio.com.au/article/565496/webjet-exclusives-trials-bitcoin-payments/ sorta interesting if ya australia, not qntra newsworthy on account i would be stuck writing abc business converts bitcoin to fiat 24/7 otherwise | [00:00] |
assbot | Webjet Exclusives trials Bitcoin payments - CIO ... ( http://bit.ly/1DDUi9j ) | [00:00] |
mircea_popescu | cazalla can't even be bothered to bet on it. "they'll make a bitcoin's worth of sales the first week, then half a bitcoin the next year and then that's that." | [00:01] |
mircea_popescu | "driving adoption" the reddit way. | [00:01] |
cazalla | well, at least they had the sense to avoid zhou's coinjar by going with bitpos instead | [00:03] |
cazalla | might raise the eyebrow of vexual, think we're the only 2 aussies.. | [00:04] |
asciilifeform | re: ddos: i'm still at a loss at how snmp/ntp amplification ddosnets can carry on existing without a 'tragedy of the commons' situation - recall, anyone here could in principle invoke the chumpnet at any time | [00:04] |
asciilifeform | by sending precisely the same kind of forged packets the idiot sends | [00:04] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform cause we don't give a shit ? | [00:04] |
decimation | who am I gonna spam? | [00:05] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: well yes. but it also appears that no one, anywhere, gives a shit | [00:05] |
mircea_popescu | there's this very narrow lost demographic, mostly at the periphery of the world, made up of kids smart enough to be able to do it but dumb enough to not have anything better to do. | [00:05] |
asciilifeform | consider, any spammer in need of a ddosnet can simply walk into #b-a | [00:05] |
mircea_popescu | it is really very very narrow. | [00:05] |
asciilifeform | and get one for free | [00:05] |
mircea_popescu | like, toothbrush sidewalk cleaners. | [00:05] |
asciilifeform | lol | [00:05] |
asciilifeform | that has to be it. | [00:05] |
asciilifeform | i can't picture any other explanation, presently | [00:05] |
mircea_popescu | if you can do it with a toothbrush you could ... restore art, or make your own, or be a surgeon or etc. | [00:05] |
decimation | maybe someone should compile the list of broken devices and sell it on -otc? | [00:05] |
mircea_popescu | decimation but the people who could do it could get it anyway | [00:06] |
asciilifeform | decimation: kakobrekla and i already posted, for free... | [00:06] |
mircea_popescu | and anyone else a) doesn't hjave the money and b) would just be happy to send you support tickets | [00:06] |
asciilifeform | they also are not especially hard to scan for in the wild | [00:06] |
mircea_popescu | because the webwhrores charge for talking to them | [00:06] |
asciilifeform | which also helps to explain the disinterest | [00:06] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform also relevant : http://trilema.com/2014/o-hai-let-me-wanna-be/#comment-111914 | [00:06] |
assbot | O hai let me wanna-be! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1zdrrJj ) | [00:07] |
mircea_popescu | chumps are routinely downed for their troubles. but "dunno what it was ?!?!?!" | [00:07] |
decimation | mircea_popescu: the guy is persistant, I would grant that though | [00:08] |
asciilifeform | how much persistence does it take to leave an automaton going. | [00:08] |
decimation | I'm not sure what point he is making, other than helping sort newbies here | [00:08] |
mircea_popescu | in the sense that a nineteen year old with a very messy room is a persistent masturbator, sure. | [00:08] |
decimation | well, presumably he has other people to harass for profit | [00:08] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [00:08] |
mircea_popescu | hey, want this bridge btw ? i'm selling it. | [00:08] |
mircea_popescu | i make a lot of money selling bridges. | [00:09] |
asciilifeform | on the days when b-a noobs are unmolested, presumably someone else is being serviced | [00:09] |
mircea_popescu | online. | [00:09] |
decimation | are you a professional with a license? | [00:09] |
mircea_popescu | i am a successful online bridge merchant. | [00:09] |
asciilifeform | bridge like a pro in twenty-one days. | [00:09] |
mircea_popescu | i can have my customers contact you if you wish | [00:09] |
mircea_popescu | i am the one that sold the ukalele guggenheim bridge in abudja | [00:10] |
asciilifeform | https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&sa=1&q=twenty-one+days+book | [00:10] |
assbot | twenty-one days book - Google Search ... ( http://bit.ly/1zds4CC ) | [00:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 104219 @ 0.00037237 = 38.808 BTC [+] {2} | [00:10] |
decimation | learn to write twenty-one days books in just twenty-one days | [00:10] |
asciilifeform | i have this notion that the original was the cpp one. | [00:11] |
mircea_popescu | "my twenty-one days dating twenty-one twenty-one day book authors" | [00:11] |
asciilifeform | 'learn c++ in 21 days' | [00:11] |
mircea_popescu | "my twenty-one days dating twenty-one twenty-one years old twenty-one day book authors" | [00:12] |
asciilifeform | some wag had a (unfortunately parodic) 'learn to code in 21 years' | [00:12] |
mircea_popescu | how i learned twenty one languages twenty one times in twenty one days | [00:13] |
cazalla | mircea_popescu, http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/02/04/world/americas/argentina-prosecutor-alberto-nisman-arrest-warrant-cristina-de-kirchner.html?referrer= | [00:13] |
assbot | Log In ... ( http://bit.ly/1zdssAU ) | [00:13] |
mircea_popescu | wait wut | [00:13] |
mircea_popescu | a that. yeah. | [00:14] |
cazalla | figured it was new aspect to that story, don't remember reading in logs he planned to arrest that chick | [00:14] |
mircea_popescu | yeah it was one of the numerous points making a juicy press story | [00:15] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, he can't actually do it. you can;t arrest a president. | [00:16] |
mircea_popescu | however, her term's about over, after which... | [00:16] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform im pretty sure it was. | [00:17] |
mircea_popescu | early 90s | [00:17] |
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mod6 | incase anyone was interested, here's my errors from yesterday: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=iweEQCpu | [00:29] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1DDY3LN ) | [00:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108850 @ 0.00037444 = 40.7578 BTC [+] {2} | [00:29] |
decimation | http://sciencecareers.sciencemag.org/career_magazine/previous_issues/articles/2015_02_03/caredit.a1500027 << "But the first report on the class of 2015 from the respected National Association of Colleges and Employers (NACE), which conducts multiple surveys of employers’ hiring intentions throughout the year, projects a 9% drop in the salaries of new computer science bachelor's degree graduates, from $67,300 in 2014 to $61,287 this | [00:33] |
decimation | year." | [00:33] |
assbot | Another funny thing happened on the way to the STEM shortage | Science Careers ... ( http://bit.ly/1DDYtBR ) | [00:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 130795 @ 0.00036764 = 48.0855 BTC [-] | [00:40] |
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mike_c | jurov: please and ty: http://pastebin.com/Dp3RbqtU | [00:51] |
assbot | -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Please deposit s.qntr shares - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1DE0RbQ ) | [00:51] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109753 @ 0.00037063 = 40.6778 BTC [+] | [12:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32396 @ 0.00037063 = 12.0069 BTC [+] | [12:05] |
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mircea_popescu | o hey, first antarctica bitcoin tx ? | [12:09] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 277142 @ 0.00036543 = 101.276 BTC [-] {3} | [12:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 78558 @ 0.00035949 = 28.2408 BTC [-] | [12:12] |
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mircea_popescu | mod6 persuing your error log : it would seem to me that for some reason your peers keep pumping you with blocks height=168002 and over, whereas yotu never get height=168001. | [12:15] |
mircea_popescu | this causes oom errors because narrow space for orphans. | [12:15] |
mircea_popescu | it MAY be a subtle off-by-one error somewhere in the code. | [12:15] |
mircea_popescu | note that none of the blocvks you receive match your sent getdata. | [12:16] |
mircea_popescu | the fact that no checkpoints means no error would perhaps bolster the "bad code, off by one" hypothesis and relate it to the checkpoints implementation. | [12:19] |
mircea_popescu | decimation: from $67,300 in 2014 to $61,287 this << remember the lulzy "need immigration to maintain geniusness of industree" paul graham nonsense ? | [12:20] |
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mircea_popescu | aka "too many english speakers read trilema, lol @ us, need fresh turnip trucks plox" | [12:20] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54972 @ 0.00038081 = 20.9339 BTC [+] {2} | [12:23] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform: swapping is the more or less one guaranteed way to ruin an arbitrarily good ssd. << while the principle is correct, in point of fact i would like this experimentally tried in our current case. | [12:27] |
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mircea_popescu | roughly speaking, my rationale is like this : because a large chunk of fixed data is always present (the actual blockchain), should a 100gb ssd be blessed with a 4gb swap partition, the drive finds itself in the position where the 100gb * 10k (say) writes are available as such : 100gb of them for the actual data, and 100gb * 9999 for the 4gb partition. | [12:28] |
mircea_popescu | obviously 250`000 full rewrites of the swap means a decade or more of intense usage, and so, a perfectly economic use of the ssd in question. | [12:28] |
mircea_popescu | so danielpbarron, if you feel like trying a generous swap on one of the pogos, with the understanding that the ssd disk you put in there will likely fry, please do so, and document the exeriment as well as possible. | [12:29] |
danielpbarron | k | [12:29] |
mircea_popescu | it's an ideal usecase for the "use ssd until it fries" because the value of running a pogo is in its running. so a pogo that ran for 3.5 years then died, had part replaced and resynced over three weeks then ran for another 3.5 years is a perfectly functional, 99.999% uptime pogo as good as any other. | [12:32] |
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mircea_popescu | same can almost never be said of catastrophic failure hdd system. | [12:32] |
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thestringpuller | who cares about hdd's frying when you gotz da raidz | [12:38] |
thestringpuller | hot swap those bitches | [12:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 169000 @ 0.00039079 = 66.0435 BTC [+] {3} | [12:38] |
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thestringpuller | http://newsbtc.com/2015/02/04/st-petersburg-bowl-bitpay-sponsor-nascar-driver/ << so bitpay is going the way of dogecoin | [12:42] |
thestringpuller | "Mass Adoption! Ya ya ya!" | [12:43] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform: bitcoin could handily run under 100MB constant if the whole bastards thing were somehow bulldozed << yeah it's one of those serious issues that should have been on teh priority list of actual core devs. in 2012. | [12:43] |
mircea_popescu | mod6: it seems like the growing thought seems to be to get a list of 50300 active nodes and seed those directly into the R.I., or am I misunderstanding that?? << completely misunderstanding that. | [12:44] |
mircea_popescu | the plan is to put wot-member signed nodes in and nothing else. | [12:44] |
thestringpuller | RE Tax man accepting bitcoin from yesterday logs: http://panampost.com/belen-marty/2015/02/04/new-hampshire-bill-backs-bitcoin-for-state-taxes/ | [12:44] |
thestringpuller | o look mircea_popescu the author is in your neck of the woods: "Belén Marty is the Libertarian Latina, a journalist based in Buenos Aires, Argentina." | [12:46] |
mircea_popescu | she can figure out how to get in here like anyone else. | [12:46] |
mircea_popescu | my neck of the woods is a city larger than all of california. | [12:46] |
fluffypony | http://www.savagechickens.com/wp-content/uploads/chickenhappy70.jpg | [12:50] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1u8P3ON ) | [12:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 166400 @ 0.00038906 = 64.7396 BTC [-] | [12:50] |
mircea_popescu | heh | [12:50] |
mircea_popescu | cazalla: i think it is interesting to note that qntra has surpassed a competing site, founded in april 2014 << i have never heard of it, but mebbe ask em if they want to join in ? | [12:52] |
mircea_popescu | seems a lone guy with enough irl acumen to make a corp. | [12:52] |
mircea_popescu | punkman: "There’s a distinction between the Internet and IRL for a reason. We are here in IRL, and we have to make judgements in IRL." - Ulbricht's lawyer << did he actually point to the distinction or merely presume it ? | [12:52] |
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mircea_popescu | assbot: Bonafide Raises $850k to Build Reputation System for Bitcoin << pics! http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/bonafide-1.jpg http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/bonafide-2.jpg | [12:59] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1u8SxRx ) | [12:59] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1u8SAws ) | [12:59] |
fluffypony | lol | [13:00] |
mircea_popescu | (that's what the azns call a love hotel, above. and that's a [cheap] whore cafe) | [13:00] |
mircea_popescu | mthreat: Here's exactly where I am, for the details << yeh but how are we to verify! | [13:02] |
mircea_popescu | maybe you're hanging out with capitanich all along! | [13:02] |
punkman | mircea_popescu: I presume the guy's closing argument was him flapping his hands | [13:03] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [13:03] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 118900 @ 0.00038906 = 46.2592 BTC [-] | [13:12] |
mircea_popescu | cazalla BingoBoingo http://pastebin.com/hZVCehf8 << for your editorial consideration. | [13:13] |
assbot | Title : IBL, almost larger than IRL. First ever (as far as we currently know - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1C0MG0M ) | [13:13] |
mircea_popescu | "Bitnplay's failure to launch comes off the back of what can only be described as a disappointing result in an attempt to raise 400 BTC. Offering a total of 200 tokens to investors via CounterParty, Bitnplay managed to sell a grand total of 5, netting them 10 BTC." | [13:16] |
mircea_popescu | lawl. | [13:16] |
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mircea_popescu | wouldn't that slow it down futher ? cpu wise i mean | [13:19] |
mircea_popescu | and also, isn't it merged into kernel by now ? | [13:19] |
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jurov | it must be enabled in any case | [13:22] |
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jurov | compressed in-memory swap is not suitable for everything by default | [13:23] |
mircea_popescu | this is true. | [13:23] |
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PeterL | mircea_popescu:the plan is to put wot-member signed nodes in and nothing else. << add another command to assbot to collect ip addrs? | [13:28] |
mircea_popescu | nah, people can just use deedbot | [13:29] |
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jurov | half of our condo got flooded from somewhere two stories above. phun. | [13:31] |
jurov | i've got only a puddle fortunately. | [13:32] |
mircea_popescu | what aobut the people one story above ? enjoying the free water ? | [13:32] |
jurov | yea "tomorrow we have a visitation at work i was not sleeping at night last few days and now this!!!" | [13:35] |
mircea_popescu | visitation ?! | [13:35] |
mircea_popescu | that's jesus showing up you know. | [13:36] |
jurov | lolk | [13:36] |
jurov | inspection | [13:36] |
mircea_popescu | i liked visitaiton better :D makes the story lulzier | [13:37] |
jurov | tap water is off. time to open beer! | [13:38] |
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danielpbarron | height=183146 | [13:45] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35177 @ 0.00038906 = 13.686 BTC [-] | [13:52] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 166750 @ 0.00039001 = 65.0342 BTC [+] {4} | [14:04] |
asciilifeform | 275384 | [14:05] |
mircea_popescu | gee, almost fully synced ? | [14:10] |
mircea_popescu | has it even been a full week ? | [14:11] |
mircea_popescu | http://mako.cc/copyrighteous/cultivated-disinterest-in-professional-sports#comment-597330 << check it out, mako guy actually published my comment. | [14:11] |
davout | asciilifeform: that's the pogo?? | [14:11] |
assbot | Cultivated Disinterest in Professional Sports | copyrighteous ... ( http://bit.ly/1F6ffdW ) | [14:11] |
mircea_popescu | where's that head explosion gif | [14:11] |
mircea_popescu | davout afaik it's a pc with memory restraints and valgrind | [14:11] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: ~3 days | [14:12] |
asciilifeform | davout: nope. bastard node test on x86. | [14:13] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: no restraints on that box, just valgrind | [14:13] |
mircea_popescu | oh oh | [14:13] |
mircea_popescu | so how much memory ? | [14:13] |
asciilifeform | 8g | [14:14] |
mircea_popescu | yeah well then not saying much. | [14:14] |
mircea_popescu | you still got a pogo running ? | [14:14] |
asciilifeform | not presently | [14:14] |
asciilifeform | disassembled for attachment of jtag probes | [14:14] |
asciilifeform | but didn't quite get around to it yet | [14:14] |
asciilifeform | i promised folks a working buildroot for that thing | [14:14] |
asciilifeform | also jurov's zram idea is actually a good one | [14:15] |
asciilifeform | there's cpu to spare | [14:16] |
davout | !s if you can't stop fucking with it | [14:16] |
assbot | 1 results for 'if you can't stop fucking with it' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=if+you+can%27t+stop+fucking+with+it | [14:16] |
davout | :D | [14:16] |
asciilifeform | davout: funnily enough i've a second | [14:16] |
asciilifeform | davout: but it's reserved for autodefloration test | [14:16] |
asciilifeform | davout: haven't even taken it out of the crate yet | [14:16] |
mircea_popescu | [14:17] | |
mircea_popescu | with a change of curves. | [14:17] |
asciilifeform | wai srsly? | [14:17] |
davout | i tried getting a pogo on amazon, for some retarded reason the price in euros is like 60 | [14:17] |
mircea_popescu | ask davout he was there :D | [14:17] |
asciilifeform | this was actually shat forth? | [14:17] |
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davout | and if i buy in usd i have like ~50 USD shipping | [14:17] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu but you don't watch sports | [14:18] |
mircea_popescu | davout would it make sense to make a large buy in us and ship to eu ? | [14:18] |
mircea_popescu | thestringpuller i also don't watch porn. doesn't mean i can't discuss itcompetently. | [14:18] |
asciilifeform | davout: at least you can get it, in theory; iirc in the land of the colocolo and ocelot they cannot be had except by human courier | [14:18] |
davout | mircea_popescu: i'll look a bit harder if i can't find them for cheaper first | [14:18] |
mircea_popescu | kk | [14:19] |
thestringpuller | Do you like golf? that seems like a sport you'd enjoy | [14:19] |
asciilifeform | over here i can order now and it'll show by 8'oclock today | [14:19] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform hey, get me like a dozen, bring em over at conference. | [14:19] |
thestringpuller | asciilifeform: do you ever leave the house? | [14:19] |
thestringpuller | asciilifeform: you remind me of sean connery in Finding Forrester. | [14:19] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: certainly. | [14:20] |
mircea_popescu | wh ty. | [14:20] |
mircea_popescu | i dunno how bulky they are/what they weigh, but w/e's convenient. | [14:20] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: do we wish them to remain in their original crates? | [14:20] |
mircea_popescu | i don't care. | [14:20] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: then - naked. | [14:21] |
mircea_popescu | not that specific about number, either, just, bring as many as you can carry. | [14:21] |
jurov | http://www.amazon.de/Cloud-Engines-Pogoplug-Biz-Adapter/dp/B004VSKJ62/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1423070142&sr=8-3&keywords=pogoplug | [14:21] |
assbot | Cloud Engines Pogoplug Biz USB NAS Adapter: Amazon.de: Computer & Zubehör ... ( http://bit.ly/1AsJnkZ ) | [14:21] |
jurov | "only" 23+5 eur | [14:21] |
jurov | and that if you know anyone in germany | [14:21] |
asciilifeform | jurov, davout: incidentally, 'pogo' is not the only supplier of this kind of thing. 'seagate' has a device with, iirc, identical pcb | [14:21] |
asciilifeform | and a few others | [14:21] |
asciilifeform | i just picked the price winner. | [14:22] |
asciilifeform | from my own perch | [14:22] |
asciilifeform | might vary elsewhere | [14:22] |
mircea_popescu | im actually having most courriers drag a bag of the shits on their way. | [14:22] |
davout | asciilifeform: ah nice, if you have a list i'd be interdasted in looking into it | [14:22] |
mircea_popescu | it'll get to where customs will be able to entirely identify my network by keepying track of bags of pogos ffs. | [14:22] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 173085 @ 0.0003925 = 67.9359 BTC [+] {2} | [14:22] |
punkman | who manufactures the pogo? | [14:22] |
punkman | globalscale? | [14:22] |
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asciilifeform | punkman: i have not yet discovered the answer to this. | [14:23] |
punkman | ah cloud engines maybe | [14:23] |
asciilifeform | thestringpuller: do you ever leave the house << i do have a day job, as i think i mentioned. it doesn't have fixed hours as such, but i'm away from my perch fairly often. | [14:24] |
davout | i'm starting to suspect you can't get them in yurp without some kind of subscription | [14:24] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu soon to become the han solo of Argentina. | [14:24] |
asciilifeform | brb teatime | [14:24] |
thestringpuller | ^- this guy makes me happy | [14:25] |
mircea_popescu | davout if all else fails you can have some of mine, also at conference o.O | [14:25] |
davout | re pogo plug in europe -> http://i.imgur.com/7mtvBR3.png | [14:25] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1AsK9OY ) | [14:25] |
mircea_popescu | this is starting to be so much like soviet russia in 1985 it boggles the mind. | [14:25] |
mircea_popescu | 90 euros wtf ?! | [14:25] |
davout | ikr | [14:25] |
mircea_popescu | hm, ok, this is highly suspekt. | [14:26] |
punkman | loss leader only in bezzleland | [14:26] |
mircea_popescu | clearly. | [14:26] |
fluffypony | I ordered two off eBay | [14:26] |
punkman | there has to be some chinese knockoff | [14:26] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony how much were they ? did you get them ? | [14:26] |
fluffypony | lemme check price | [14:26] |
fluffypony | they're in country at customs, should be delivered | [14:27] |
fluffypony | by Monday at the latest | [14:27] |
fluffypony | it's through eBay's Global Shipping Program | [14:27] |
davout | in two weeks(tm) | [14:27] |
fluffypony | so via Fedex | [14:27] |
fluffypony | and you pay for customs / duties up-front | [14:27] |
fluffypony | http://www.ebay.com/itm/391010802864 | [14:27] |
assbot | New Pogoplug Series 4 Backup Device | eBay ... ( http://bit.ly/1F6iKRG ) | [14:27] |
fluffypony | so for two I paid | [14:28] |
punkman | still $50+ | [14:28] |
fluffypony | ORDER TOTAL US $52.60 | [14:28] |
fluffypony | + US $20.74 shipping | [14:28] |
fluffypony | + US $16.26 customs | [14:28] |
mod6 | << completely misunderstanding that. << ok gotcha. | [14:29] |
fluffypony | $44.80 including delivery and customs (per Pogo) | [14:29] |
mircea_popescu | aha | [14:29] |
mod6 | mircea_popescu: mod6 persuing your error log : it would seem to me that for some reason your peers keep pumping you with blocks height=168002 and over, whereas yotu never get height=168001. << see line 40 of this paste: http://pastebin.com/iweEQCpu | [14:29] |
assbot | root@ip-W-X-Y-Z:/mnt/btc-dev/sandbox/bitcoin-bitcoin-a8def6b/src# date Wed Feb - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1F6j9Ue ) | [14:29] |
mod6 | or internal log number: 1805961 | [14:29] |
mircea_popescu | o wow | [14:30] |
mod6 | 1805961 InvalidChainFound: invalid block=0000000000000a40136b height=168001 work=243841112905690411140 | [14:30] |
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mircea_popescu | invalid block=0000000000000a40136b << can oyu dig this thing up and post it please ? | [14:30] |
mod6 | anyway, just thought i'd stop in and update you quick. thanks for looking!! | [14:30] |
mod6 | dig it up from ? the debug log? | [14:31] |
mircea_popescu | ideally as a signed blob on the mailing list. "This is block 0000000000000a40136b, reported as invalid so and so" | [14:31] |
mod6 | i can't do much more from where i'm at right now, 'cept google perhaps. | [14:31] |
thestringpuller | jurov: thestringpuller: lol ryanxcharles, bitcoin should be written in node.js ?? you aware of this? http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2u7ddq/the_real_reason_ryan_charles_was_fired_from/ << good stuff. buttcoin seems to have more real people than r/bitcoin | [14:31] |
mod6 | ah. ok yeah, i can do that tonight. | [14:31] |
mircea_popescu | no no, dig it up from your memory pool i guess | [14:31] |
mircea_popescu | no huge rush | [14:31] |
mircea_popescu | but it'll have to be dissected. | [14:31] |
mircea_popescu | thestringpuller that's because it has fewer. | [14:31] |
mod6 | mircea_popescu: ok. i'll check back in tonight, see what I can do. | [14:33] |
mircea_popescu | cool. | [14:33] |
punkman | http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms < various other plugs listed here | [14:34] |
assbot | Platforms | Arch Linux ARM ... ( http://bit.ly/1AsLPI0 ) | [14:34] |
jurov | http://pogoplug.com/devices *Due to overwhelming demand, we are currently out of stock in the UK and Europe. | [14:36] |
assbot | Pogoplug Devices: Back Up, Access and Share From Anywhere ... ( http://bit.ly/1AsMb1m ) | [14:37] |
mircea_popescu | heh. | [14:37] |
punkman | does the pogoplug need any proprietary blobs? | [14:39] |
mircea_popescu | nop | [14:39] |
trinque | my btcd for deedbot has been belching about orphan blocks for a day, ever since it got to about two days ago in the blockchain | [14:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 104750 @ 0.00039253 = 41.1175 BTC [+] | [14:44] |
mircea_popescu | horribru error report. | [14:44] |
mthreat | <+mircea_popescu> ... << yeh but how are we to verify! << I actually got pics of me holding up the blockchain iPhone app transaction, in front of the Port Lockroy building with a sign visible! | [14:46] |
mircea_popescu | o hey cool going! | [14:46] |
thestringpuller | "Getting fired from reddit sucks, but the support I've received from the bitcoin community is incredible. Free market social safety net." << "Why work when you can get donations for being a 'victim'." | [14:46] |
thestringpuller | my god | [14:47] |
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thestringpuller | d00d gets fired for being unemployable so derps will throw money at him so he can eat? this is definition of socialism no?!?!? | [14:47] |
mircea_popescu | eh simmer down. what money. | [14:49] |
thestringpuller | changetip / "attempts" at crowdfunding / "pledges" / and other various donations. | [14:50] |
trinque | thestringpuller: what do you have against kim kardashian's ass? | [14:50] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 134000 @ 0.00038018 = 50.9441 BTC [-] {2} | [14:52] |
thestringpuller | trinque: i don't think I do have an issue with her badonkadonk. it's not my problem? | [14:52] |
mircea_popescu | changetip ? srsly ? | [14:52] |
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trinque | thestringpuller: twas just a joke about the various forms of internet celebrity theater | [14:53] |
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thestringpuller | i have minor respect for kim cause she released sex tape and made career after that | [14:53] |
thestringpuller | but i guess her dad made deal with devil when defending OJ so whole family can have money | [14:53] |
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nubbins` | thestringpuller, if her dad was anyone else, she would not have made a "career" out of a sex tape | [14:54] |
thestringpuller | ^- that was my point | [14:54] |
nubbins` | a career on redtube, maybe | [14:54] |
nubbins` | so unless you're saying you respect her because her dad went to law school... | [14:54] |
nubbins` | no entiendo | [14:54] |
nubbins` | see also paris hilton | [14:55] |
thestringpuller | well her career improved vs. say paris hilton | [14:55] |
mircea_popescu | nubbins` orly? who was her dad ? | [14:55] |
nubbins` | mircea_popescu oj simpson lawyer | [14:55] |
mircea_popescu | o wow srsly ? | [14:55] |
nubbins` | yes | [14:55] |
thestringpuller | robert kardashian | [14:55] |
mircea_popescu | hadno idea. | [14:55] |
nubbins` | this is the only reason her face is everywhere | [14:55] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, girl's got a great ass. that's an... asset. | [14:55] |
nubbins` | oj's lawyer's daughter sucking cock on film | [14:55] |
mircea_popescu | no it's not. | [14:55] |
thestringpuller | you know everyone on cochran's team who defended oj is dead | [14:55] |
mircea_popescu | she is objectively a hot woman, and she understands feminity well enough to behave rationally. | [14:56] |
nubbins` | sure. the world is full of objectively hot women, many of them hotter than her | [14:56] |
mircea_popescu | one could argue idiotic us internet feminism is to blame for reducing her competition, at most. | [14:56] |
nubbins` | (objectively) | [14:56] |
mircea_popescu | right. but they're stupid and fat. | [14:56] |
nubbins` | so's the rest of her famous family | [14:58] |
mircea_popescu | what do i care about her family. | [14:58] |
nubbins` | all of a sudden it's about you?! | [14:59] |
nubbins` | https://www.google.ca/search?q=kardashian+gossip&tbm=isch | [14:59] |
assbot | kardashian gossip - Google Search ... ( http://bit.ly/1F6oivx ) | [14:59] |
thestringpuller | "armenians are the black version of white people" | [14:59] |
nubbins` | http://i.imgur.com/c00cRKV.jpg | [15:00] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1F6ow5G ) | [15:00] |
thestringpuller | her husband has higher net worth than her | [15:00] |
nubbins` | y'know, this would probably still be international news if this woman wasn't the sister of the porn star oj simpson lawyer daughter | [15:00] |
thestringpuller | and kanye is a shitty businessman | [15:00] |
nubbins` | if there's one thing that would make me permanently switch supermarkets, it'd be a couple of checkout aisles free from gossip mags | [15:01] |
nubbins` | even just one | [15:01] |
thestringpuller | because Jay-Z associates with these people rather than being a true G is why Dr. Dre beat him to the billionaire club. | [15:01] |
nubbins` | A++++++ would wait in line again | [15:01] |
thestringpuller | nubbins`: Whole Foods doesn't have gossip mags | [15:02] |
trinque | nubbins`: I don't see them at whole foods or zuppans | [15:02] |
thestringpuller | but it's replaced with "hipster mags" | [15:02] |
nubbins` | i thought dre made it because he was a killer producer | [15:02] |
trinque | yeh | [15:02] |
mircea_popescu | you know, since i don't watch tv or supermarket, i may not be as aggressed as you are by this shit :D | [15:02] |
nubbins` | t*: we don't have "whole foods" here. | [15:02] |
nubbins` | mircea_popescu it's slightly more assaulting than billboard ads | [15:02] |
thestringpuller | marketing is rape | [15:02] |
nubbins` | i haven't "watched tv" in maybe 7 years | [15:02] |
nubbins` | 8 if you count english-language | [15:03] |
trinque | yelling on the street corner != rape | [15:03] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, i much prefer kim to say michelle obama. | [15:03] |
mircea_popescu | not to mention out and out idiots a la hess or whatever, goodman. | [15:03] |
mircea_popescu | more girls like kim plox. | [15:03] |
thestringpuller | nubbins`: dre is a killer producer, but not nearly the same genius as say quincy jones. He made great business bets in comparison to Jay-Z. | [15:03] |
nubbins` | MICHELLE OBAMA: PREGNANT BY ONE MAN, IN LOVE WITH ANOTHER | [15:03] |
scoopbot | New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/mpex-smpoe-january-2015-statement/ | [15:03] |
nubbins` | thestringpuller he also stepped out of his comfort zone. guy produced a NIN album! | [15:04] |
nubbins` | trinque +1 | [15:04] |
thestringpuller | nubbins`: yea the fragile. | [15:04] |
nubbins` | marketing is an assault on the sensibilities of all reasonable people | [15:04] |
mircea_popescu |
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thestringpuller | nubbins`: that as only one track tho, and that's cause Trent and Dre were friends throughout the late 90's. | [15:04] |
nubbins` | too true | [15:05] |
nubbins` | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Dre_production_discography | [15:05] |
assbot | Dr. Dre production discography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1F6pBKU ) | [15:05] |
nubbins` | anyway | [15:05] |
nubbins` | not really my thing but w/e. guy knows how to make money | [15:05] |
thestringpuller | ^- that's my point | [15:06] |
thestringpuller | and Jay-Z associates with people who don't. | [15:07] |
thestringpuller | which is why Dre beat him to Billionaire land | [15:07] |
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mircea_popescu | !up phillipsjk | [15:09] |
-assbot- | You voiced phillipsjk for 30 minutes. | [15:09] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73450 @ 0.0003785 = 27.8008 BTC [-] | [15:09] |
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asciilifeform | anybody bother to look into the competitors of 'pogo' (seagate nas, etc.) ? | [15:12] |
trinque | http://ma.ttias.be/whats-new-systemd-2015-edition/?h <<< LOL | [15:14] |
assbot | What's New in systemd, 2015 Edition ... ( http://bit.ly/1DeyeUG ) | [15:14] |
nubbins` | i think seagate has a cloud thing but it's $$$ | [15:14] |
nubbins` | there's no "buy it w/o the drive" version | [15:15] |
asciilifeform | nubbins`: they have a whole line | [15:15] |
trinque | among other lols, they want to eat docker, manage your firewall, make the logger speak http... | [15:15] |
asciilifeform | incl. one that looked quite like pogo, physically | [15:15] |
asciilifeform | (small pedestal for single drive.) | [15:15] |
punkman | http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-FreeAgent-Powered-Ports-100563416/dp/B002DH40ZY/ | [15:15] |
punkman | also $13 | [15:15] |
assbot | Amazon.com: Seagate FreeAgent Go Dock+ with 3 Powered USB Ports 100563416 (White): Electronics ... ( http://bit.ly/1DeyrHA ) | [15:15] |
asciilifeform | there we go | [15:15] |
asciilifeform | that's the one | [15:15] |
asciilifeform | or actually no. | [15:16] |
nubbins` | is that not literally just a usb hub with a hdd attachment? | [15:16] |
asciilifeform | that's an analogue cradle | [15:16] |
nubbins` | http://www.amazon.ca/Seagate-Central-Personal-Storage-STCG2000100/dp/B00ARB5FPM/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1423073439&sr=1-2&keywords=seagate+cloud | [15:16] |
assbot | Seagate Central 2TB Personal Cloud Storage NAS STCG2000100: Amazon.ca: Computers & Tablets ... ( http://bit.ly/1DeyBi2 ) | [15:16] |
nubbins` | ^ nb price for 2tb | [15:16] |
asciilifeform | it was, iirc, the 'goflex' | [15:17] |
mircea_popescu | trinque lmao. it's so funnay. | [15:17] |
nubbins` | asciilifeform i have a goflex, it's just a hdd with a cradle | [15:18] |
nubbins` | maybe the "dockstar"? | [15:18] |
nubbins` | ;;google seagate dockstar | [15:18] |
asciilifeform | hm | [15:18] |
gribble | Amazon.com: Seagate FreeAgent DockStar Network Adapter ...: |
[15:18] |
nubbins` | first one | [15:18] |
asciilifeform | http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/seagate/goflexnet | [15:18] |
assbot | Seagate GoFlexNet [OpenWrt Wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1Dez6J5 ) | [15:18] |
asciilifeform | ^ that one | [15:18] |
nubbins` | o | [15:18] |
nubbins` | i have "goflex desk" | [15:18] |
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nubbins` | i also have a "goflex tv" which might fit the bill. | [15:19] |
mircea_popescu | "minimal firewall support, which is service oriented. Ie: allow Apache access in the firewall instead of saying "allow port :80″ access." | [15:19] |
asciilifeform | incidentally, above link has jtag mapping that ought to work for all the marvell boards | [15:19] |
mircea_popescu | happens to be the longest idiocy on linux forums. noob user on ubuntu moved from windows "how do i get zone alarm for linux" | [15:19] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: lemme guess, string/path matching | [15:19] |
mircea_popescu | answer, always "stupid idea, forget it. | [15:19] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: like winblows phirewall | [15:20] |
mircea_popescu | noob, usually "fu why so elitist" | [15:20] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform apparently they fell out of the windows tree and hit every branch on the way down. | [15:20] |
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asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: now try expanded mindfuck. think of what this picture will look like once apple implodes. | [15:20] |
mircea_popescu | the notion that someone still takes this guy seriously is irreconcilable with the notion that people are born human. | [15:20] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform it will look excellent : us on top of the world. | [15:21] |
mircea_popescu | to quote myself, "people we don't like fighting each other, an ode" | [15:21] |
mircea_popescu | "networkd: because networking is such a basic function of the OS, he believes it should be in systemd" | [15:22] |
mircea_popescu | hehehehe | [15:22] |
asciilifeform | the part of the world where i live is plagued with, among other insects, a type of caterpillar that devours trees wholesale. every spring, gigantic hives (?) - nests with webbing - appear, and when they're full, you can almost see them pulsate, pulsate | [15:22] |
mircea_popescu | "systemd wrote their own dhcp library" | [15:22] |
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asciilifeform | this, in effect, is what i'm seeing in apple | [15:22] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44954 @ 0.0003785 = 17.0151 BTC [-] | [15:22] |
mircea_popescu | "out of bits and pieces nsa had lying around for a decade or so" | [15:22] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform i saw those in mass. | [15:23] |
asciilifeform | when it finally pops, all of those folks will come screaming into what's left of 'entry linux' | [15:23] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: they're in the whole east usa | [15:23] |
mircea_popescu | they don't actually eat the wood tho. but suck the tree dry anyway | [15:23] |
asciilifeform | leaves | [15:23] |
asciilifeform | pick'em clean | [15:23] |
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mircea_popescu | "combining nspawn (containers) and networkd (dhcp) allows for easier network management of containers. Networkd can also run inside the container. Outside the container networkd can pick a free DHCP IP for that container. Allows v4 to v6 network masquarading automatically. Does not involve dnsmasq, everything is routed via IP on the kernel (no bridging)." | [15:24] |
trinque | looks like they want to kill etc too | [15:24] |
mircea_popescu | this is such a brilliant approach to "user has no control of their computer" | [15:24] |
asciilifeform | kill etc << apple killed it long ago | [15:24] |
asciilifeform | the systemd folks are emulating apple, not (intentionally) microshit | [15:24] |
nubbins` | seems goflex tv is based on realtek 1073 | [15:24] |
trinque | mircea_popescu: this is *absolutely* about some kind of "managed linux" thing on your phone/tablet/whatever | [15:25] |
mircea_popescu | "cast nameserver resolution, as used by Windows" | [15:25] |
trinque | big wink at the camera there | [15:26] |
mircea_popescu | journald-remoting: the binary logger now has remote support (aka: remoting) via HTTP (instead of the syslog protocol, which isn't standardized (ie: no timezones, single-line logs only, ...) | [15:26] |
nubbins` | ethernet, usb built in as well | [15:26] |
mircea_popescu | ahahaha, syslog is "not standardized" | [15:26] |
mircea_popescu | systemd crap, is. | [15:26] |
mircea_popescu | ok enough of this idiocy for one day. | [15:26] |
asciilifeform | embrace/extend/extinguish, mega-snore. | [15:26] |
nubbins` | oh, that's a MIPS processor | [15:26] |
asciilifeform | nubbins`: i found the box in question. seagate's 'freeagent dockstar' | [15:27] |
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nubbins` | [14:44:17] <+nubbins`> maybe the "dockstar"? | [15:27] |
nubbins` | +1 | [15:27] |
asciilifeform | aha | [15:27] |
asciilifeform | that was it | [15:27] |
nubbins` | what sorta chip's that running on? | [15:27] |
nubbins` | marvell kirkwood | [15:27] |
nubbins` | 1200mhz! | [15:27] |
chetty | [15:28] | |
asciilifeform | circa '09, however | [15:28] |
asciilifeform | can't determine if still made | [15:28] |
nubbins` | asciilifeform is linux on MIPS a thing i should bother looking into re: goflex tv? | [15:28] |
asciilifeform | nubbins`: i'm speaking through a mips/bsd box right now | [15:28] |
nubbins` | ah | [15:28] |
nubbins` | http://www.svplannet.com/userfiles/lg_images/Seagate_Freeagent_Goflex_Tv_Hd_Media_Player.jpg | [15:29] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1F6uxQ7 ) | [15:29] |
nubbins` | ^ that's what i've got kicking around | [15:29] |
nubbins` | will fit a SATA drive inside, altho mine currently only uses thumbdrives for storage | [15:29] |
felipelalli | Let me ask one thing guys about MPEx website: why not the total shared issued is displayed at http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.QNTR ? Wouldn't it be a useful information? I could find this info on http://trilema.com/2014/qntra-sqntr-october-2014-statement/ but I think it is handy to display on the stock page. Thanks. | [15:30] |
asciilifeform | nubbins`: video thing? | [15:30] |
mircea_popescu | chetty given some users, this would be a net gain. | [15:30] |
assbot | Qntra (S.QNTR) October 2014 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1F6uKmk ) | [15:30] |
nubbins` | yeah, little media player. | [15:30] |
nubbins` | netflix, youtube, etc players built in as well | [15:30] |
ben_vulpes | buenos | [15:30] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89971 @ 0.00039278 = 35.3388 BTC [+] {2} | [15:30] |
nubbins` | unfortunately the netflix app is hard-coded to USA service (!!!!) | [15:31] |
mircea_popescu | felipelalli because it keeps changing. | [15:31] |
nubbins` | so useless to me from the get-go for that | [15:31] |
felipelalli | mircea_popescu: thank you. | [15:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48929 @ 0.00039342 = 19.2496 BTC [+] | [15:31] |
mircea_popescu | http://ma.ttias.be/whats-new-systemd-2015-edition/#comment-10997 just in case. | [15:32] |
assbot | What's New in systemd, 2015 Edition ... ( http://bit.ly/1F6vh7L ) | [15:32] |
felipelalli | mircea_popescu: are there a place where I can find the current total shares or just reading the statements? | [15:32] |
mircea_popescu | well yes,. the statements | [15:32] |
mircea_popescu | this is how all stock exchanges work, incidentally. | [15:33] |
mircea_popescu | the exchange engine itself is not aware of the conventions regarding the corporation. those are registered separately. | [15:33] |
mircea_popescu | more importantly : you should not trade a stock you've not read the reports for. | [15:33] |
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ben_vulpes | funny news | [15:36] |
ben_vulpes | our municipal client now requires that we carry "cyber liability insurance" | [15:36] |
mircea_popescu | lol wassat ? | [15:36] |
asciilifeform | wai wat | [15:37] |
ben_vulpes | FUCK IF I KNOW | [15:37] |
felipelalli | mircea_popescu: thanks, makes sense. | [15:37] |
mircea_popescu | clearly you need it then. | [15:37] |
mircea_popescu | "#1 Online Agent for Cyber Liability Insurance 175,000 businesses served since 1997" - "insureon" | [15:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67371 @ 0.00039353 = 26.5125 BTC [+] {2} | [15:37] |
ben_vulpes | more bezzletronic scams. | [15:38] |
ben_vulpes | insurance! scam! | [15:38] |
mircea_popescu | i just put a "get online quote" for "stock brokers" | [15:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 273618 @ 0.00039426 = 107.8766 BTC [+] {4} | [15:38] |
mircea_popescu | because yeah, totally. that's how it works. you pick "stock brokers" from a list containing stuff like "laundry services" and get a quote | [15:39] |
asciilifeform | by the pound? | [15:39] |
ben_vulpes | how does one pick a stock broker? | [15:39] |
mircea_popescu | "What is the zip code of your primary business location?" | [15:39] |
* | ben_vulpes is a pauper, wouldn't know | [15:39] |
mircea_popescu | check it out, the zip where my stock brokering is primarily stock brokered. | [15:39] |
* | ben_vulpes barely qualifies for the explicitly front-run brokers | [15:39] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes kinda like you pick a girlfriend : have your friends recommend someone. | [15:39] |
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mircea_popescu | anyway, maybe tell them it's THEIR job to get insurance ? as you're not actually keeping their dbs ? or are you ? | [15:40] |
ben_vulpes | girls just show up in my life - stockbrokers, not so much. | [15:40] |
ben_vulpes | it's on some paas-y thing | [15:41] |
mircea_popescu | seems like a sad attempt to pass costs along to contractors. | [15:41] |
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ben_vulpes | fuck that i ain't holding no bags | [15:41] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, tell them it'll be ~4500 more per month, and as if they're sure. | [15:41] |
ben_vulpes | actually its fine | [15:41] |
ben_vulpes | dev shops should carry more responsibility for produced work anyways. | [15:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70502 @ 0.0003785 = 26.685 BTC [-] | [15:42] |
mircea_popescu | the db leak liability attaches to operator. | [15:42] |
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mircea_popescu | unless they're paying you for saas, in which case, i would hope you're executing them six to eight digits anually. | [15:42] |
ben_vulpes | mnah | [15:42] |
ben_vulpes | commodity saas vendor, we just write and derploy der coden | [15:42] |
mircea_popescu | welllll in THAT case... | [15:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 115543 @ 0.00037498 = 43.3263 BTC [-] {2} | [15:43] |
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asciilifeform | http://www.dealsmachine.com/best_164529.html?currency=USD&gclid=CjwKEAiAo8emBRCX_OqU4qek6y8SJACzgf8fItxlMkPEh8mQ51Onl4aKr3o31T6wsIcm8FwdwzKuDxoCR2bw_wcB | [15:45] |
assbot | DealsMachine: V8 Single Core 512M DDR3 Linux Miracast Wireless iPush Airplay DLNA TV Stick Built-in HDMI/Wifi ... ( http://bit.ly/1DeF6kS ) | [15:45] |
felipelalli | let me ask you guys another thing: I'm using coinbr.com to buy S.MPOE shares. I received this receipt: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=L1Bv8GFg what proves I have created the order. But after the order is filled, where is the proof that 270 S.MPOE are mine? What happen if CoinBr.com just go bankruptcy (or disappear)? How could I recover this? | [15:45] |
asciilifeform | ^ wireless, usb only for storage | [15:45] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1DeF7p8 ) | [15:45] |
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asciilifeform | 512mb. | [15:45] |
* | xanthyos | [15:45] |
asciilifeform | there also appear to be at least half a dozen compatible products, of similar cost. | [15:46] |
mike_c | ;;gettrust felipelalli jurov | [15:46] |
gribble | WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user felipelalli to user jurov: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=felipelalli&dest=jurov | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=jurov | Rated since: Fri Jan 20 18:16:32 2012 | [15:46] |
mike_c | oops. old habits | [15:46] |
* | asciilifeform is not especially fond of wireless net for this application | [15:46] |
mike_c | !gettrust felipelalli jurov | [15:46] |
assbot | Trust relationship from user felipelalli to user jurov: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 5 via 4 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/felipelalli/jurov | http://w.b-a.link/user/jurov | [15:46] |
mike_c | felipelalli: ^ that is your protection against coinbr disappearing. | [15:47] |
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jurov | felipelalli: also, what happen if MPEx just go bankruptcy (or disappear)? Same thing. | [15:48] |
felipelalli | actually they (CoinBr.com) hold the shares for me in CoinBr MPEx account, isn't it? Just to know if I am missing something. | [15:50] |
jurov | yes | [15:50] |
felipelalli | perfect! thank you. | [15:51] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 93700 @ 0.00039594 = 37.0996 BTC [+] {2} | [15:51] |
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felipelalli | jurov: just now I noticed "they" are actually "you". :) Thanks. | [15:56] |
felipelalli | !rate jurov 1 "coinbr.com owner, great job, I trust him." | [15:56] |
assbot | Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/8516d6f71a1c731d | [15:56] |
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jurov | :) | [15:57] |
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pete_dushenski | http://www.contravex.com/2015/02/04/you-cant-have-door-to-door-shakedowns-in-defeudalised-france/ | [15:58] |
assbot | You can’t have door-to-door shakedowns in defeudalised France. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1F6Ats9 ) | [15:58] |
jurov | kakobrekla what about signing http://files.bitcoin-assets.com/wot/wot_ratings.sql.gz ? | [15:58] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1F6Ayw9 ) | [15:58] |
asciilifeform | https://www.newit.co.uk/shop << 'arm' system vendor in eu | [15:59] |
assbot | New IT ... ( http://bit.ly/1F6AA75 ) | [15:59] |
asciilifeform | unfortunately nothing in the price ballpark of 'pogo' | [15:59] |
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asciilifeform | unrelated mega-lol: http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/02/psa-your-crypto-apps-are-useless-unless-you-check-them-for-backdoors | [16:02] |
assbot | PSA: Your crypto apps are useless unless you check them for backdoors | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1F6BaBT ) | [16:02] |
asciilifeform | ^ from the run-moar-winblows department | [16:02] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/02/mips-creator-ci20-released-interesting-though-not-very-useful << for your collection. i own the pre-release version of this thing. it works. but full of oddities. there is a (supposedly) complete data sheet for the chip. | [16:03] |
assbot | MIPS Creator CI20 released: Interesting, though not very useful | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1F6Bsc2 ) | [16:03] |
jurov | https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/A10/A10-OLinuXino-LIME/open-source-hardware guess we'll end up with this | [16:03] |
assbot | A10-OLinuXino-LIME - Open Source Hardware Board ... ( http://bit.ly/1F6BsZj ) | [16:03] |
ben_vulpes | pete_dushenski: if you're just going to annotage logs at least have the commentary arrayed neatly around the source material like the rest of the talmudic publications | [16:04] |
asciilifeform | jurov: not bad. about 1.5 pogos. | [16:04] |
ben_vulpes | footnotes are so...web 3.0 | [16:04] |
asciilifeform | jurov: looks like even has sata. | [16:04] |
asciilifeform | would need a chassis and power brick? | [16:04] |
pete_dushenski | ben_vulpes: lol what talmud are you reading? | [16:05] |
asciilifeform | pete_dushenski: iirc a standard talmud is arranged this way ? | [16:05] |
pete_dushenski | bla.. fine. ima brb | [16:06] |
pete_dushenski | :) | [16:06] |
jurov | Please prove you are not an bot. How many cores RK3188 have?: << ahahaha olimex forums rule | [16:06] |
asciilifeform | jurov: i like the ru 'integrals' captchae more. | [16:06] |
asciilifeform | 'prove you're not a bot or a c-student' | [16:07] |
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asciilifeform | pete_dushenski: http://people.ucalgary.ca/~elsegal/TalmudPage.html | [16:08] |
assbot | 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1F6CkgJ ) | [16:08] |
asciilifeform | ^ illustrated | [16:08] |
nubbins` | hm, re: goflex tv http://www.linux-mips.org/archives/linux-mips/2010-11/msg00155.html | [16:08] |
assbot | [PATCH] Add support for Realtek Media Player SoCs ... ( http://bit.ly/1F6Cl4n ) | [16:08] |
pete_dushenski | asciilifeform: heh whaddya know | [16:08] |
nubbins` | cracked open a firmware update image, might be something to this | [16:08] |
pete_dushenski | that's pretty cool lookin' | [16:08] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 142197 @ 0.00039587 = 56.2915 BTC [-] | [16:11] |
phillipsjk | mircea_popescu, Just because you don't understand the Maslow pyramid, does not imply it is completely invalid. Your alternative pyramid lacks co-operation...which you apparently consider rotten socialist propaganda. Re: http://trilema.com/2014/that-aint-the-maslow-pyramid-yo/ | [16:16] |
assbot | That ain't the Maslow pyramid, yo! pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1z0o6x1 ) | [16:16] |
jurov | satoshidice.com down. interesting | [16:16] |
asciilifeform | maslow's thing had 'cooperation'? wat? | [16:16] |
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pete_dushenski | alright ben_vulpes: http://www.contravex.com/2015/02/04/you-cant-have-door-to-door-shakedowns-in-defeudalised-france/ | [16:17] |
assbot | You can’t have door-to-door shakedowns in defeudalised France. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1zgegas ) | [16:17] |
pete_dushenski | c'est mieu ? | [16:17] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 50 @ 0.09522599 = 4.7613 BTC [-] {7} | [16:18] |
phillipsjk | asciilifeform, 4 of the 5 categories use the term "domination" | [16:18] |
pete_dushenski | i'll admit, it was a bit odd having all my thoughts in the footnotes... i'm just not sure that this is cleaner to read. | [16:19] |
phillipsjk | I finally have DDOS samples up. Apparently the attack mode switched at some point. I was not able to determine exactly when because my machine lacks the RAM to load the entire packet capture in wirkeshark. | [16:22] |
phillipsjk | Here is a 1.5MB sample of the udp fragment flood I was talking about: http://phillipsjk.ca/images/Jan_28_2015_DDOS_30Mbit_sample.pcap | [16:24] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1zgfCC4 ) | [16:24] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 33 @ 0.09100303 = 3.0031 BTC [-] {6} | [16:25] |
phillipsjk | It mentions uzuuzuu.ru and simply says LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL over and over. | [16:25] |
teward | phillipsjk: I feel sorry for you o.o | [16:26] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 103000 @ 0.00038349 = 39.4995 BTC [-] {2} | [16:27] |
phillipsjk | here is the first minute or so of UPnP crap: (64MIB) http://phillipsjk.ca/images/Jan_28_2015_DDOS_10Mbit.pcap | [16:28] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 1500 @ 0.00095 = 1.425 BTC [-] | [16:28] |
asciilifeform | phun phact: | [16:28] |
asciilifeform | there is at least one exploitable overflow in 'wireshark'. | [16:29] |
asciilifeform | at least, was, a year or so ago. | [16:29] |
teward | asciilifeform: depends on the rev you're on | [16:29] |
teward | AFAIK they're all patched, but I haven't watched wireshark upstream like a hawk | [16:29] |
asciilifeform | there is no such thing, approximately, as a kitchen with precisely one cockroach. | [16:29] |
phillipsjk | The UDP flood sample was after I let the previous attack drop to dial-up rates, then briefly reconnected. | [16:29] |
teward | phillipsjk: just TARPIT everything | [16:30] |
teward | :P | [16:30] |
phillipsjk | asciilifeform, I was running it from a LiveCD. But yes, those captures may be potentially harmful. | [16:30] |
asciilifeform | not even about these in particular. | [16:30] |
phillipsjk | I my write-up on the Shaw forums, I included a caution about that. | [16:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41800 @ 0.00039587 = 16.5474 BTC [+] | [16:31] |
kakobrekla | jurov http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=19-01-2015#983823 | [16:31] |
teward | asciilifeform: is one of the 2015 notices here the one you're talking about? https://www.wireshark.org/security/ | [16:31] |
assbot | Logged on 19-01-2015 22:42:24; kakobrekla: !shasum wot | [16:31] |
assbot | Wireshark · Security Advisories ... ( http://bit.ly/1zgh5rX ) | [16:31] |
teward | because i'm on 1.12.1 - if it's ~1yr old, I'm patched | [16:32] |
jurov | kakobrekla: so i'm to connect to irc from my wot sync script, srsly? | [16:32] |
kakobrekla | im not signing it. | [16:33] |
phillipsjk | I was amazed when people were finding devastating holes in image processing libraries about 10 years ago. Every OS was affected. | [16:33] |
jurov | why? and i did not say it must be your signature | [16:33] |
kakobrekla | if not mine, imagine one up. | [16:34] |
teward | ho-lee shit, Wireshark is huge o.o | [16:35] |
kakobrekla | idk, i could make it announce new shasums in chan and you parse logs then | [16:35] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 143100 @ 0.00037854 = 54.1691 BTC [-] | [16:35] |
phillipsjk | teward, I found my first DDOS kind of exciting. The cloak works so far. Apparently people will DDOS live-streaming gamers for lulz as well. | [16:36] |
phillipsjk | I slightly related news, apparently I can put whatever files I want on my web-host. Was working under the assumption I had at least 100MB of space. Apparently it is 25GB. (I essentially chose my own price-point since anything more than 25MB may as well be infinite for my e-mail and web-site.) | [16:39] |
teward | phillipsjk: well that's not uncommon - and if anyone tried to DDoS me, they'd hit my VPS not me, and that's DDoS-filtered | [16:39] |
jurov | kakobrekla that wouldn't help | [16:43] |
mircea_popescu | phillipsjk how do you figure it lacks cooperation ? | [16:43] |
mircea_popescu | submission is cooperation, just, functional. the sort of cooperation you have in mind is simply not found in nature is all. | [16:43] |
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jurov | kakobrekla, but please confirm you're aware that by choosing mysqldump format, it can't be parsed but must be piped into mysql which is practically the same as piping into /bin/sh | [16:45] |
kakobrekla | i can give you a different format, seems like you are the first the use the thing. | [16:46] |
phillipsjk | asciilifeform, mis-read your maslow comment. "Belonging and love needs" sounds like cooperation is needed. | [16:46] |
pete_dushenski | italian fiu: "The FIU states that businesses dealing in virtual currencies, including holding them and exchanging them for fiat currencies, are not required to comply with any AML/KYC regulations." | [16:46] |
kakobrekla | s/the use/to use | [16:46] |
pete_dushenski | cazalla: BingoBoingo https://bitcoinmagazine.com/19244/central-bank-italy-declares-virtual-currency-exchanges-not-subject-aml-requirements/ if you're interested | [16:47] |
assbot | Central Bank of Italy Declares Virtual Currency Exchanges Are Not Subject to AML Requirements – Bitcoin Magazine ... ( http://bit.ly/1zgk6II ) | [16:47] |
mircea_popescu | felipelalli: let me ask you guys another thing <<< when using a broker, you necessarily undertake that risk. the way to not undertake the risk is to have your own account. | [16:47] |
jurov | kakobrekla anything that can be parsed, not ran. csv, json,...etc | [16:47] |
mircea_popescu | pete_dushenski you know you could write it up yourself. | [16:47] |
mircea_popescu | i got one in queue too. | [16:47] |
mircea_popescu | jurov i thought you could get json of anything anyway ? | [16:47] |
pete_dushenski | mircea_popescu: this is true but there's some other writing i'm attending to | [16:48] |
jurov | i cannot get json of /assbot/keyid/ | [16:48] |
jurov | so id ecided to just pull whole db anyway | [16:48] |
pete_dushenski | if the qntra boys don't pick it up within an hour or so, i'll scoop it | [16:48] |
mircea_popescu | that's because keid is nonsense? you also can't get json of assbot/english cuisine | [16:49] |
jurov | but i now see it's actually a script downloaded by http | [16:49] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform: ^ from the run-moar-winblows department << how the hell does one check for backdoors. submerge in water an' blow ? | [16:49] |
trinque | ^lol | [16:49] |
jurov | mircea_popescu: one cannot get full fingerprint out of gpg-signed stuff one get by email. t was already discussed | [16:50] |
mircea_popescu | jurov but this flaw of the gpg protocol can't really be fixed at the assbot elvel. | [16:50] |
mircea_popescu | one is stuck with it. | [16:50] |
jurov | yes. i agree. so i am stuck with | [16:50] |
jurov | 1) downloading db | [16:50] |
jurov | 2) doing like query | [16:51] |
jurov | 3) getting key by fingerprint | [16:51] |
mircea_popescu | technically you could just grep the db | [16:51] |
jurov | 4) rechecking the dam sig | [16:51] |
jurov | the db cointains users without l2 | [16:51] |
mircea_popescu | i'd be very interested in hearing about ambiguous matches. | [16:51] |
mircea_popescu | yes. | [16:51] |
phillipsjk | I have been questioning the feature where you can change key expiry, but not do operations with expired keys. (Since i learned about it) | [16:51] |
jurov | 3) and 4) take care about ambiguous matches | [16:51] |
mircea_popescu | not a great fan of any changes on keys, myself. | [16:52] |
mircea_popescu | more gpg cruft that'll have to go in bapgp | [16:52] |
jurov | but i am not asking any change about wot mechanism | [16:52] |
mircea_popescu | jurov jst saying, you don't have to do any actual query on the db. just grep it. | [16:52] |
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jurov | replace 2) by grepping is doable | [16:54] |
jurov | but in the future i potentially want the turdatron to display wot nicks anyway | [16:54] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, presenting it as json is not a bad idea | [16:54] |
mircea_popescu | or csv for that matter. | [16:54] |
mircea_popescu | but i've not yet got through the logs far enough to figure wtf the contention is so gimme a minute | [16:55] |
ben_vulpes | phillipsjk: don't play with expired keys | [16:55] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform: maslow's thing had 'cooperation'? wat? << it keeps getting revised, it's a bona fide "golf club patter" that thing. always in step with the emotional needs of a new generation. | [16:56] |
phillipsjk | ben_vulpes, if you miss issuing a new key, you may still want to sign with an expired key to prove you know the secret. | [16:56] |
mircea_popescu | not clear anyone will accept that "proof". | [16:56] |
mircea_popescu | pete_dushenski: c'est mieu ? << mieux. the x, like the h, and the e, and everything else in French including the French themselves, is silent. | [16:57] |
phillipsjk | The point of a new key is that I am *assuming* the NSA may be ably to crack 1024bit dsa, but I am not sure. I doubt anybody else can do it. | [16:57] |
* | phillipsjk now has 2048 bit RSA | [16:57] |
mircea_popescu | was dsa the one we were not using because we suspect it comes with a nsa hole from the get go or am i confusing my sas ? | [16:57] |
asciilifeform | dsa | [16:58] |
mircea_popescu | phillipsjk are you using proper digests ? | [16:58] |
mircea_popescu | iirc gpg will happily do md5 even today. | [16:58] |
asciilifeform | was explicitly proclaimed by clinton-era nsa as 'civilian' castrato crypto | [16:58] |
ben_vulpes | phillipsjk: 4096 or bust baby | [16:58] |
pete_dushenski | mircea_popescu: damn my written illiteracy! | [16:58] |
phillipsjk | DSA is assumed to be weak because 768bit RSA primes have been publicly factored. | [16:59] |
ben_vulpes | phillipsjk: try this .gnupg/gpg.conf http://dpaste.com/0BR41JG.txt | [16:59] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1zgmHmd ) | [16:59] |
mircea_popescu | unrelated thread, that. | [16:59] |
jurov | apparently mysqldump has absolutely no support for csv/json/anything? lol, even sqlite has it | [16:59] |
ben_vulpes | why aren't you people using postgres | [16:59] |
jurov | it can only change delimiter not escape data | [17:00] |
asciilifeform | backdoors << the linked piece was about somebody who woke up to the idea of checking signatures on downloaded crypto app binaries (for winblows naturally) but couldn't quite wrap brain around pgp | [17:00] |
asciilifeform | why he assumed that 'backdoor' must be necessarily inserted at isp, rather than by author of the turdware - ask him, not me | [17:01] |
mircea_popescu | phillipsjk what's "Shaw forums" ? | [17:01] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54300 @ 0.0003722 = 20.2105 BTC [-] {2} | [17:02] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform well at least he's perambulating in the generally right direction... | [17:02] |
mircea_popescu | !shasum derp | [17:03] |
assbot | Need at least one argument, example: 'wot'. | [17:03] |
mircea_popescu | !shasum wot | [17:03] |
assbot | sha256sum wot_users.sql.gz : f4de64eaf67a36a5f9f9af96ff4e6cf302c816b1093d252277a34d06e2c06add | [17:03] |
assbot | sha256sum wot_ratings.sql.gz : 2675cf21e2655398640525b1a2841a9a980b5d05e26cc4844540534971a5b7a9 | [17:03] |
mircea_popescu | jurov one problem is... if this were on a webpage what exact use would it be ? | [17:04] |
asciilifeform | winblows user walking to pgp is somewhat like a prisoner walking in the direction of the yard gate. he is still in his cell. | [17:04] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform no, not so. the better comparison is you saying " winblows user walking to pgp is somewhat like a virgin playing pensively with a fat cucumber. she isstill a virgin." | [17:05] |
mircea_popescu | yes, she is. not for long. | [17:05] |
asciilifeform | might depend on the winblows user, actually | [17:05] |
jurov | mircea_popescu: verifying is another problem. i can do that by hand | [17:06] |
asciilifeform | there are quite a few, i think, who are grossly underequipped - intellectually - to actually operate a computer | [17:06] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform their possession is a blessing for whoever's not doing it : costs more than it produces. | [17:06] |
jurov | i'm currently concerned about someone who hacked assbot server running stuff (with potentially correct sums) on my server | [17:06] |
asciilifeform | the remainder is the more interesting question | [17:06] |
mircea_popescu | jurov i still don't see why you'd process the dump as a myslq | [17:07] |
jurov | 1. i don't have slaves to write the parser for me | [17:08] |
phillipsjk | mircea_popescu, the forums hosted by my ISP. https://community.shaw.ca/thread/18478 | [17:08] |
assbot | What should we do, if anything, while experienc... | Shaw Support Community ... ( http://bit.ly/1zB6BSW ) | [17:08] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla: im not signing it. << could you make a csv ? or a json ? | [17:08] |
mircea_popescu | phillipsjk oh i c. | [17:09] |
jurov | 2. unnecessary depndence on bitcoin-assets web server | [17:09] |
mircea_popescu | jurov what'd be your ideal model ? | [17:09] |
jurov | i described these 4 steps above | [17:09] |
jurov | step 5 would be to check if sender is in l2 | [17:10] |
mircea_popescu | that'd be your ideal model ? | [17:10] |
jurov | against local db | [17:10] |
jurov | ideal? just having api that i can pull keys of l2 members directly from and is never down? | [17:12] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla can there be a page with a list of l2 fingerprints ? | [17:13] |
asciilifeform | 275919... | [17:15] |
mircea_popescu | ;;bc,stats | [17:15] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 341966 | Current Difficulty: 4.127287389469702E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 342719 | Next Difficulty In: 753 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 21 hours, 21 minutes, and 2 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 44296281000.8 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.32541 | [17:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 202480 @ 0.00038624 = 78.2059 BTC [+] | [17:18] |
jurov | yes, list of l2 fingerprints would help much | [17:18] |
mircea_popescu | phillipsjk you know you might be the first guy of your kind i ever met. so, you're on some isp's forum because... it's your isp ? and i suppose on the mazda forum if/when driving a mazda and so on ? | [17:19] |
mircea_popescu | i always assumed those things are just pure astroturf grown out of a misguided attempt to "be online' of various corps. | [17:19] |
phillipsjk | I was asking support questions. I normally avoid that forum. | [17:20] |
mircea_popescu | ah | [17:20] |
mircea_popescu | nm me then. i have a bit of a writer's mind :D | [17:20] |
mircea_popescu | !gettrust assbot phillipsjk | [17:21] |
assbot | Trust relationship from user assbot to user phillipsjk: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/assbot/phillipsjk | http://w.b-a.link/user/phillipsjk | [17:21] |
phillipsjk | I do play in the Bitcoin forum...Though it was like 2-3years before I actually bought any. | [17:21] |
mircea_popescu | "Their most absurd suggestion turned out to be surprisingly close to the truth: that it must have been some website we visited." | [17:24] |
mircea_popescu | funny how that works. | [17:24] |
phillipsjk | Theymos (the Bitcointalk admin) proposed a compromise for the block-size issue: start with 2MB blocks. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=941331.msg10352457#msg10352457 | [17:25] |
assbot | Bitcoin 20MB Fork ... ( http://bit.ly/1zB8y1R ) | [17:25] |
asciilifeform | choosing where to go for dinner with a coprophagiac; compromise - eat only a little shit. | [17:25] |
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asciilifeform | just as side dish. | [17:26] |
asciilifeform | a garnish | [17:26] |
asciilifeform | if slightly unsavoury | [17:26] |
* | phillipsjk checks if that is actually a word | [17:26] |
mircea_popescu | the overarching point there is that vessenes' scam and the people hanging in -dev do not have the authority to either implement or discuss bitcoin forks. | [17:27] |
mircea_popescu | at all. | [17:27] |
phillipsjk | ..it is. | [17:27] |
mircea_popescu | not for any reason, not under any conditions. eod. | [17:27] |
asciilifeform | phillipsjk: 'bitcoin' probably does not appear in your dictionary. is a word ? | [17:27] |
mircea_popescu | coprophagiac - someone who eats shit. | [17:28] |
mircea_popescu | tis english. | [17:28] |
asciilifeform | the king's english, aha | [17:28] |
phillipsjk | asciilifeform, yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin | [17:28] |
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assbot | Bitcoin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1zB8S0r ) | [17:28] |
phillipsjk | (not technically a dictionary) | [17:29] |
trinque | it exists because wikipedia... guffaw | [17:29] |
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phillipsjk | I used a search engine, not wikipedia directly. I was checking form more than like 3 uses. | [17:30] |
mircea_popescu | phillipsjk for the record, these attacks aren't exactly bandwidth related in any sense, they're packet based. | [17:30] |
thestringpuller | Ephebophilia. | [17:30] |
phillipsjk | The UDP flood was almost full packets. | [17:30] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: ^ you know that one? | [17:30] |
mircea_popescu | thestringpuller notice that there doesn't exist an equivalent "love for teenaged females". | [17:31] |
thestringpuller | ;) | [17:31] |
phillipsjk | er UDP *fragment* flood. (The UPNP shit was UDP too) | [17:32] |
mircea_popescu | aha | [17:35] |
ben_vulpes | x and my wm collectively shit themselves when i switch to a monitor theyve never seen before. | [17:37] |
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the_scourge | ben_vulpes: just do xrandr by hand. unless you're one of those people who has their monitors in the same orientation every day | [17:40] |
the_scourge | what wm do you use? | [17:41] |
ben_vulpes | stumpwm | [17:41] |
ben_vulpes | i just want to use it, i don't want to rewrite it | [17:41] |
ben_vulpes | i guess this is the curse of a shop with > 8 monitors | [17:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54842 @ 0.00037115 = 20.3546 BTC [-] | [17:41] |
the_scourge | "StumpWM is a tiling window manager that was created when developer Shawn Betts found ratpoison growing increasingly large and "lispy"." | [17:42] |
* | the_scourge goes to find out how something can become too lispy | [17:42] |
ben_vulpes | when your c devs start implementing common lisp out of ignorance, it's probably time to just use common lisp. | [17:42] |
mircea_popescu | if one could just use common lisp (no devs involved) there'd be no computing language forums. | [17:44] |
the_scourge | ben_vulpes: it should respect what xrandr tells it to do, regardless. i've used tiling window managers with a retina laptop in 9 different shops in the last 18 months, sometimes changing desks throughout the week. just turn everything off and use xrandr, i'm sure your wm will respect it | [17:44] |
* | the_scourge is interested! | [17:44] |
phillipsjk | EMACS user detected. | [17:44] |
mircea_popescu | !up cjc | [17:45] |
-assbot- | You voiced cjc for 30 minutes. | [17:45] |
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the_scourge | woah... is this wm actually written in common lisp? why have i never heard of this before | [17:45] |
asciilifeform | it is extremely well-known among folks with even a mild interest in the subject... | [17:45] |
cjc | Thanks mircea_popescu. I've been enjoying watching the somewhat spirited astroturfing over at bitcointalk.org for the last couple of days in this thread with regard to the Fork. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=941331 | [17:46] |
assbot | Bitcoin 20MB Fork ... ( http://bit.ly/1Df4qHt ) | [17:46] |
mircea_popescu | not like cl has that many usable apps out there :D | [17:46] |
the_scourge | asciilifeform: that's a little low, but i'll freely admit i don't hang around with the right people | [17:46] |
mircea_popescu | cjc vox populi vox dei yo! | [17:46] |
mircea_popescu | the_scourge why not ? | [17:46] |
cjc | Also, I enjoyed the btc-dev mailing list post decision to keep the CPU miner for Alpha Centauri =) | [17:46] |
the_scourge | mircea_popescu: opportunity personality? | [17:47] |
the_scourge | *and personality | [17:47] |
trinque | ah stumpwm... "At least I can get what I want with ample tape." | [17:47] |
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mircea_popescu | kinda how it usually goes huh | [17:47] |
the_scourge | i think the lack of opportunity has bent my personality :( | [17:47] |
the_scourge | i'm just happy when i get a client where the head engineer is capable of having slightly technical discussions... staves off the cabin fever (which is possible, even in london) | [17:49] |
the_scourge | phillipsjk: thanks for looking into the ddos stuff btw | [17:49] |
trinque | the_scourge: gotta just ignore useless people and not miss the opportunity to hang among the worthwhile when it comes along | [17:49] |
the_scourge | hi from a fellow canuck, btw | [17:49] |
trinque | pretty easy to bitch about how everyone's terrible in the US too if one allows himself | [17:50] |
the_scourge | trinque++ | [17:50] |
phillipsjk | Your welcome. Figured I was being attacked anyway, may as well get data. | [17:50] |
the_scourge | trinque: i take responsibility for the situation. i've had certain goals and i've been working on them for so long i haven't stopped to smell the roses or look up the local 2600 chapter. if that even exists anymore | [17:53] |
cjc | There was a pretty good deal on lifetime 2600 subscriptions last year. | [17:53] |
cjc | I picked it up sans the expensive delivery fee. | [17:54] |
trinque | the_scourge: heh, dude.. this feel, I know it | [17:54] |
ben_vulpes |
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ben_vulpes | anywhere. | [17:55] |
the_scourge | ben_vulpes: is that because all of the non-stupid people ended up dispairing and turned malicious? | [17:56] |
trinque | the_scourge: https://rumpydog.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/kenny-big-cat-rescue.jpg | [17:58] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1xjqfi1 ) | [17:58] |
trinque | you take what used to be a predator, add captivity and asinine breeding habits, boom | [17:58] |
the_scourge | is that that crazy big cat place in middle of nowhere wisconsin? with the ligers? | [18:00] |
the_scourge | i've been there! | [18:00] |
the_scourge | but that's a really fucked up... tiger? | [18:00] |
trinque | dunno; googled "fat imbred large feline" | [18:00] |
the_scourge | er that's a liger isn't it | [18:00] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes speaking of which : sent emails to ~500 real estate agencies in buenos aires, yes. | [18:01] |
trinque | vaguely recalled that they're imbreeding white tigers to keep them going | [18:01] |
mircea_popescu | today, sent responses to ~300 of them, that were inquiring to know a) where is the center of buenos aires and b) whether argentines are poor. | [18:01] |
mircea_popescu | i was happy to confirm for their needs where the center is and that yes indeed they are poor. | [18:01] |
the_scourge | http://votk.org/ < that's the place i think the liger might have died though | [18:01] |
assbot | Valley of the Kings Home Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1xjrEoL ) | [18:01] |
mircea_popescu | stupidity, yes. malice... rarely. on account of people being so stupid they can't really manage malice on the same cpu. | [18:01] |
punkman | Ulbricht: "On Wednesday, a jury took about three hours to find him guilty on all seven counts." | [18:04] |
pete_dushenski | damn, bb was right on the nose! | [18:04] |
trinque | railroad's running right on time | [18:05] |
asciilifeform | what they did for 3 hours? played cards ? | [18:05] |
mircea_popescu | ha, wd bb. | [18:05] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: Wow. I just woke up and won? | [18:05] |
mircea_popescu | yup | [18:06] |
asciilifeform | i bet that soldering iron is warming up already. | [18:06] |
asciilifeform | if not sizzling quite yet | [18:06] |
mircea_popescu | turns out im the worlds most inept prop bettor :D | [18:06] |
BingoBoingo | Last night I got stressed an make a Minix, today... | [18:06] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: minix, rly ? | [18:06] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: Practicing small | [18:07] |
asciilifeform | honest minix or the heretical minix3 ? | [18:07] |
BingoBoingo | old minix | [18:07] |
asciilifeform | neato. | [18:07] |
the_scourge | punkman: link? | [18:07] |
asciilifeform | 'Do you pine for the nice days of minix-1.1, when men were men and wrote their own device drivers?' - linus t. | [18:07] |
BingoBoingo | Not sure if worked | [18:07] |
punkman | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-02-04/ross-ulbricht-convicted-of-running-silk-road-as-dread-pirate | [18:07] |
assbot | Ross Ulbricht Convicted of Running Silk Road as Dread Pirate Roberts - Bloomberg Business ... ( http://bit.ly/1xjuvya ) | [18:08] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 125900 @ 0.00036624 = 46.1096 BTC [-] {2} | [18:08] |
mircea_popescu | ill brb | [18:08] |
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BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: I may not have built a userland or drivers | [18:09] |
* | BingoBoingo needs more reads | [18:09] |
the_scourge | wtf, that speeds things up a little | [18:09] |
trinque | holy *shit*; life in prison? | [18:10] |
asciilifeform | now who wants to talk about the mythical nullifying juries, lol | [18:10] |
the_scourge | no kidding | [18:10] |
trinque | dude's being drawn and quartered as an example | [18:10] |
asciilifeform | for folks unfamiliar with u.s. jurisprudence, verdict has to be unanimous | [18:11] |
BingoBoingo | [18:11] | |
asciilifeform | if 11 jurors were to feel like, e.g., letting dpr go, and one did not, 'hung jury' and the kangaroo court gets to do the whole thing again | [18:11] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: in criminal trials, iirc | [18:11] |
BingoBoingo | But must almost always be some sort of super majority | [18:11] |
asciilifeform | civil - no | [18:11] |
BingoBoingo | [18:12] | |
asciilifeform | in all fed criminal trials. and in most state criminals. | [18:12] |
BingoBoingo | Ah | [18:13] |
asciilifeform | ianal. | [18:13] |
asciilifeform | incidentally, | [18:13] |
asciilifeform | http://fija.org/2014/04/25/jackson-v-louisiana-revisits-non-unanimous-jury-verdicts | [18:13] |
assbot | Supreme Court to Consider Revisiting Non-Unanimous Jury Verdicts ... ( http://bit.ly/1xjxeYm ) | [18:13] |
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asciilifeform | ^ apparently even this is now up for being fucked with | [18:14] |
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cazalla | seems qntra already had a category for antarctica.. ;;later tell BingoBoingo australia is not the same as antarctica lol http://qntra.net/2014/12/australia-the-tax-institute-calls-for-voluntary-bitcoin-registry-treating-bitcoin-as-currency/ | [18:18] |
assbot | Australia: The Tax Institute Calls for 'Voluntary' Bitcoin Registry, Treating Bitcoin as Currency | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1xjzuPd ) | [18:18] |
BingoBoingo | cazalla: Are you sure? | [18:18] |
cazalla | yes and that is despite the past week being freezing here (sunny morning today, yay) | [18:20] |
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BingoBoingo | Antartica, Australia, Africa, Asia, Americas... Continents need less alliteration. | [18:21] |
BingoBoingo | !up sergiohlb | [18:21] |
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cazalla | how's this for a forecast? http://i.imgur.com/s2vBAl0.png | [18:22] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1xjB3wG ) | [18:22] |
pete_dushenski | cazalla: BingoBoingo http://pastebin.com/13TyxDv7 | [18:22] |
assbot | Title: Banca d’Italia ends AML/KYC for Bitcoin businesses, opts out of economi - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1xjBjvL ) | [18:22] |
pete_dushenski | saved you boys the trouble :) | [18:23] |
cazalla | re: pastebin submissions, can we please use email? google snatches these up quick and pastebin gets the credit for the content | [18:23] |
cazalla | it's not a big deal but would not want to see it become a habit | [18:24] |
pete_dushenski | por supuesto | [18:24] |
pete_dushenski | next time: email | [18:24] |
cazalla | it's not just you pete_dushenski so, nothing personal :) | [18:24] |
asciilifeform | google appears to crawl #b-a www log every other minute or so, likewise. | [18:29] |
asciilifeform | (why? ask them) | [18:30] |
pete_dushenski | following behind the cool kids and taking notes is nothing new | [18:32] |
pete_dushenski | it's worked on the playground since basically forever | [18:32] |
pete_dushenski | and what is the internet if not a big playground ? | [18:32] |
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pete_dushenski | some kids are playing tag, some kids are playing chess, some kids are driving the teachers crazy, | [18:35] |
pete_dushenski | some kids are lighting things on fire | [18:36] |
pete_dushenski | others, chasing girls | [18:36] |
the_scourge | so what does that make google? the monitor or a nerd? | [18:37] |
pete_dushenski | which makes me think i should re-write that old classic "all i really need to know i leaned in kindergarten" for the internet age | [18:37] |
pete_dushenski | see, the nerd has a good chance of growing up to be someone someday, so google can't very well be that | [18:38] |
pete_dushenski | so i guess the monitor, trying to adapt and keep up with the kids | [18:39] |
pete_dushenski | but ultimately being slow and a bit greying | [18:39] |
pete_dushenski | unless there's a third alternative ? | [18:39] |
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the_scourge | the desperate wannabe? i think i remember a few of those | [18:41] |
the_scourge | i think they outnumbered genetic alphas | [18:42] |
nubbins` | o.O | [18:42] |
nubbins` | Choose Your Own Stereotype Based On Incomplete Analogies 101 | [18:42] |
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pete_dushenski | asciilifeform: !s merit washing << seen this ? http://www.contravex.com/2014/04/27/philanthropy-not-power/ | [18:42] |
assbot | "Philanthropy." Not Power. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1Dfg0Cq ) | [18:42] |
nubbins` | pete_dushenski stop bogarting that dutch | [18:43] |
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pete_dushenski | ;;google bogart the dutch | [18:43] |
gribble | Humphrey Deforest (Humphrey) Bogart - New Netherland Institute: |
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pete_dushenski | should i know this idiom ? | [18:44] |
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PeterL | felipelalli: if you are going to get into trading on MPEx, make sure you check out http://www.btcalpha.com/ which has lots of useful information (for example market cap, from which with price you can derive total share count) | [18:46] |
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nubbins` | ;;ud bogart | [18:46] |
gribble | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bogart | A slang term derived from the last name of famous actor Humphrey Bogart because he often kept a cigarette in the corner of his mouth, seemingly never actually ... | [18:46] |
nubbins` | ;;ud dutch | [18:46] |
gribble | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=going+dutch | going dutch. In dating, when both parties pay for their own bills, thus effectively dispelling the double-standard where men are always expected to pay. | [18:46] |
nubbins` | meh on 2nd | [18:46] |
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nubbins` | ;;ud smoking dutch | [18:47] |
gribble | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Dutch&page=2 | No one actually smokes dutches, they just gut them bitches and fill em up wit product. 2) a slang word for a blunt 3) i guess a dutch is also sumone from Holland ... | [18:47] |
pete_dushenski | lol | [18:47] |
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kakobrekla | ;;later tell mircea_popescu jurov http://files.bitcoin-assets.com/wot/trustlist.txt | [18:52] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [18:52] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1yJj0BA ) | [18:52] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100661 @ 0.00035948 = 36.1856 BTC [-] {2} | [18:53] |
ben_vulpes | neatly awkable | [18:53] |
ben_vulpes | wd kakobrekla | [18:53] |
ben_vulpes | ty | [18:53] |
jurov | thanks kakobrekla! | [18:53] |
kakobrekla | yw | [18:53] |
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BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: the part of the world where i live is plagued with, among other insects, a type of caterpillar that devours trees wholesale. every spring, gigantic hives (?) - nests with webbing - appear, and when they're full, you can almost see them pulsate, pulsate << Used to be bigger problem here. Then they were largely defeated | [19:09] |
asciilifeform | defeated << how ? | [19:09] |
phillipsjk | I think birds eat them. | [19:10] |
asciilifeform | phillipsjk: the birds here - not very enthusiastically. hence the infestation | [19:10] |
phillipsjk | some trees will tolerate one or two defoliations per season as well. | [19:11] |
asciilifeform | if this were not so, there'd be rather few trees left here. | [19:11] |
asciilifeform | pete_dushenski: philanthropists article << precisely them | [19:12] |
pete_dushenski | thought so :) | [19:12] |
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pete_dushenski | asciilifeform: it's quite the little game those kids play | [19:13] |
pete_dushenski | dancing about, spouting words, meeting "important" people | [19:13] |
pete_dushenski | it's probably not a bad gig actually | [19:13] |
asciilifeform | pete_dushenski: but more generally, applies to the sv vc crapolade. i.e. why does mr schmuck get 100 megabezzlars for schmuckatron? because he's the son/nephew/catamite of one of the vultures who feasted on the corpse of fairchild semi, at&t (pre-breakup), etc. | [19:14] |
pete_dushenski | this is no different from what mazarin did | [19:14] |
asciilifeform | (not necessarily direct relation - son in law, etc. will do in a pinch. as there's plenty of printed money to go around) | [19:15] |
pete_dushenski | re-appropriate some wealth, give to kids | [19:15] |
pete_dushenski | isn't this a roman thing even? | [19:15] |
asciilifeform | the most pathetic aspect is when civilians become afflicted with the delusion of 'i can haz some too' | [19:15] |
pete_dushenski | (and many others too, i'm sure) | [19:15] |
pete_dushenski | well, because "we're all equal" | [19:15] |
asciilifeform | pete_dushenski: as i tried to explain to mircea_popescu, 'merit wash' is a rather distinct animal from ordinary inheritance | [19:16] |
asciilifeform | how: | [19:16] |
pete_dushenski | so kid in compton is just like god-daughter of mr. rothschild | [19:16] |
asciilifeform | inheritance doesn't create a gigantic circus where millions of fools think they have a shot at being an heir | [19:16] |
asciilifeform | and thus warping entire civilization in various crippling ways | [19:17] |
asciilifeform | !s tournament market | [19:17] |
assbot | 7 results for 'tournament market' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=tournament+market | [19:17] |
pete_dushenski | it would seem to necessitate an eventual divorce from reality | [19:17] |
pete_dushenski | just to cope | [19:17] |
pete_dushenski | (for the kids with no shot) | [19:18] |
asciilifeform | let's ask BingoBoingo how sport aficionados feel re: 'fixed' matches in sports where this is not customary | [19:18] |
pete_dushenski | are there such sports ? | [19:18] |
pete_dushenski | maybe... golf | [19:18] |
asciilifeform | that's the effect meritwash has on the participants (the 'extras' in the film, naturally. the pre-ordained winners - laugh all the way to the bank.) | [19:18] |
pete_dushenski | where officials are largely on the sidelines and players call their own penalties | [19:18] |
pete_dushenski | asciilifeform: which they do anyways so it can't be about them | [19:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 170200 @ 0.00035609 = 60.6065 BTC [-] {2} | [19:19] |
pete_dushenski | the difference is the injustice wrought upon the multitudes | [19:19] |
asciilifeform | or, famously, the first television 'game show' - '64,000 dollar question' (usa) was famously discovered, in its day, to be fixed | [19:19] |
asciilifeform | and this caused a national scandal | [19:19] |
pete_dushenski | similar to who wants to be a millionaire? or the same ? | [19:20] |
asciilifeform | no idea re ^ | [19:20] |
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pete_dushenski | it's not important | [19:20] |
pete_dushenski | i get the picture | [19:21] |
asciilifeform | 276666 incidentally. | [19:21] |
pete_dushenski | chugging along eh | [19:21] |
pete_dushenski | i'm heading out tho. cheers! | [19:21] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 118339 @ 0.00035815 = 42.3831 BTC [+] | [19:22] |
jurov | http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-pirate-bay-is-an-fbi-honeypot-a-disconcertingly-plausible-conspiracy-theory | [19:31] |
assbot | The Pirate Bay Is an FBI Honeypot: a Disconcertingly Plausible Conspiracy Theory | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1zMEsKo ) | [19:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 87520 @ 0.00037162 = 32.5242 BTC [+] | [19:34] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes specifically, they wanted to know "what zones im interested in" and "what my budget is". | [19:38] |
mircea_popescu | somehow this are questions now. | [19:38] |
asciilifeform | http://cryptome.org/2015/02/gchq-lovely-horse-intercept-15-0204.pdf << uk gov digs through, e.g., 'pastebin', in search of 0days. | [19:38] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1zMIfau ) | [19:38] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla hawt. | [19:38] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform most script kiddies do neh ? | [19:39] |
asciilifeform | there is a tradition of actually throwing genuine 0days in there. | [19:39] |
asciilifeform | don't ask me why | [19:39] |
asciilifeform | but naturally this creates million zombies with 'gambler's disease' who dig, dig, dig | [19:40] |
mircea_popescu | cazalla: re: pastebin submissions, can we please use email? google snatches these up quick and pastebin gets the credit for the content << oops sorry bout that. | [19:42] |
mircea_popescu | say i gpg to your key next time ? | [19:42] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform: (why? ask them) << usg looking for zero days as well :) | [19:42] |
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cazalla | mircea_popescu, that works | [19:45] |
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ben_vulpes | mircea_popescu: natural questions for their business models, neh? | [19:47] |
mircea_popescu | neh. | [19:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95400 @ 0.00036332 = 34.6607 BTC [-] | [19:47] |
ben_vulpes | how so not? | [19:47] |
mircea_popescu | if oyu don't know what the center of the town is or that you live in a shithole, you should go back to highschool. | [19:48] |
ben_vulpes | granted, the first parts downright stupid | [19:48] |
BingoBoingo | [19:48] | |
mircea_popescu | then answer to "i'm looking to rent" is "best value for money i got is this, best all around property is this, which you want ?" | [19:48] |
mircea_popescu | not "oh, are buildings made of building materials i wonder soliloquously ?" | [19:49] |
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cazalla | mircea_popescu: phillipsjk you know you might be the first guy of your kind i ever met. so, you're on some isp's forum because... it's your isp ? and i suppose on the mazda forum if/when driving a mazda and so on ? <<< popular thing in australia, or at least was back in 90s, early 2000s | [19:50] |
cazalla | local dialup isp even had bbqs | [19:51] |
mircea_popescu | o, that they did in the 90s too. local dialup isp almost always being "three or four of the cooler kids in that neighbourhood" | [19:51] |
mircea_popescu | in ro in the 90s* | [19:51] |
mircea_popescu | jurov: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-pirate-bay-is-an-fbi-honeypot << that usg agitprop runs this about tpb after a year of studiously ignoring http://trilema.com/2013/dear-guardian-stop-being-retarded/ seems the best street cred for current day tpb. | [19:54] |
assbot | vmp - Error Site | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1zMMnqU ) | [19:54] |
assbot | Dear Guardian : stop being retarded. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1zMMnrc ) | [19:54] |
mircea_popescu | The well-heeled group seemed receptive. “I think it’s fantastic,” said Patrick Gage, a 19-year-old heir to the multibillion-dollar Carlson hotel and hospitality fortune. “I’ve never seen anything like this before.” Mr. Gage is an industry leader in enforcing measures to combat trafficking and involuntary prostitution. | [19:57] |
mircea_popescu | lol check it out, it's an industry now :D | [19:57] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, so obama gets 100 rich kids together to inquire about soft capital confiscation. turns out the kids don't mind. | [19:58] |
mircea_popescu | in other news, http://pastebin.com/Hhmy0DUL | [20:01] |
assbot | I am a No Limits No Taboo slave looking to be owned by men, women or a couple. I - Pastebin.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1DzrqhY ) | [20:01] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform> let's ask BingoBoingo how sport aficionados feel re: 'fixed' matches in sports where this is not customary << Actual fraud. One the other hand horrifically mismatched team (happens a lot in college where small schools will get paid by larger schools to play a game the larger school anticipates winning) can be loads of fun. Especially when the school paid to play wins. | [20:09] |
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mircea_popescu | "when the FBI tackled Ulbricht in the Library with the Laptop Forensics Toolkit" << also, partition encryption werks! | [20:16] |
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mircea_popescu | o by the way. anyone know who were the first gynecologists ? | [20:25] |
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mircea_popescu | that's a point. | [20:29] |
kakobrekla | no public pastes, no ads | [20:29] |
mircea_popescu | yeh yeh. dunno how pastebin crept back in. | [20:29] |
cazalla | mircea_popescu, barbers as well? | [20:30] |
mircea_popescu | cazalla mendicunt monks. | [20:30] |
cazalla | i vaguely remember reading about barbers being surgeons on trilema before hence reasoning for my guess | [20:30] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92910 @ 0.00036335 = 33.7588 BTC [+] | [20:35] |
asciilifeform | how pastebin crept back in << rough substitute for the shortwave station we don't have | [20:37] |
asciilifeform | i.e. no illusions of privacy or reliability | [20:37] |
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asciilifeform | i dislike the sugar-coated 'nice' pastebins for this reason | [20:37] |
mircea_popescu | nono i mean the site specifically. | [20:39] |
mircea_popescu | dpaste much better | [20:39] |
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mircea_popescu | http://qntra.net/2015/02/banca-ditalia-ends-amlkyc-for-bitcoin-businesses-opts-out-of-economic-death/ << lol ok this one i heart. | [20:48] |
assbot | Banca d’Italia Ends AML/KYC For Bitcoin Businesses, Opts Out Of Economic Death | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1I477jz ) | [20:48] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55430 @ 0.00037162 = 20.5989 BTC [+] | [20:49] |
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ben_vulpes | pastebin is verboten | [20:55] |
ben_vulpes | constantly adding in dos line endings | [20:55] |
ben_vulpes | CANNOT ABIDE | [20:55] |
ben_vulpes | mircea_popescu: gyns << no who? | [20:55] |
ben_vulpes | Disclosure: Although the event was closed to the media, I was invited by the founders of Nexus, Jonah Wittkamper and Rachel Cohen Gerrol, to report on the conference as a member of the family that started the Johnson & Johnson pharmaceutical company. << woo hoo hoo | [20:55] |
mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes mendicunt monks. | [20:56] |
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ben_vulpes | >.< | [20:56] |
mircea_popescu | it;'s great! | [20:56] |
ben_vulpes | what's the american ob-gyn chain of the future? | [20:57] |
mircea_popescu | mmmm | [20:57] |
mircea_popescu | herp-r-us ? | [20:57] |
mircea_popescu | snatch-o-mattic ? | [20:58] |
ben_vulpes | Mend-A-Cunt™ | [20:58] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [20:58] |
mircea_popescu | McBox | [20:58] |
mircea_popescu | QwikTwat | [20:59] |
BingoBoingo | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9000912 | [20:59] |
assbot | IBL, Almost Larger Than IRL | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1KesnAA ) | [20:59] |
mircea_popescu | yay | [21:00] |
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mircea_popescu | !gettrust assbot beautyon | [21:12] |
assbot | beautyon is not registered in WoT. | [21:12] |
BingoBoingo | !gettrust assbot Irdial | [21:13] |
assbot | Irdial is not registered in WoT. | [21:13] |
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mircea_popescu | scoopbot -fetch | [21:22] |
mircea_popescu | i guess that's not how that works. anyway : http://trilema.com/2015/open-assbot-wot-website/ | [21:24] |
assbot | [OPEN] Assbot WoT website pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KexrFi ) | [21:24] |
mircea_popescu | erryone lemme know if you like / want more icecream a la mode. | [21:24] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 8000 @ 0.00097074 = 7.7659 BTC [+] {6} | [21:28] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2300 @ 0.000971 = 2.2333 BTC [+] | [21:29] |
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adlai | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-01-2015#994929 << what about this cream | [21:38] |
assbot | Logged on 28-01-2015 05:29:24; mircea_popescu: adlai so that's how it works. you get some btc, publish your trades, etc. | [21:38] |
mircea_popescu | adlai huh ? | [21:38] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 10549 @ 0.00095022 = 10.0239 BTC [-] {14} | [21:38] |
adlai | i'd like to test scalpl on larger amounts of btc than i have at my personal disposal. | [21:39] |
mod6 | perhaps what i can do here, is take the copy of the blockchain that i tried to sync day-before yesterday (copied @ ~160000 blocks) and use gdb to try to see what's going on with that that block | [21:39] |
mod6 | seems to be: 2c2314f353 VerifySignature failed ... invalid block=0000000000000a40136b height=168001 | [21:40] |
mod6 | not sure exactly what to be looking for... but turning over a few 'stones' might find something. | [21:41] |
kakobrekla | adlai curious, whats the min youd take? | [21:42] |
asciilifeform | adlai: why does it have to test on actual live-fire btc anyway? | [21:43] |
adlai | depends what's at hand | [21:43] |
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adlai | because anything else is roughly equivalent to changetip | [21:43] |
asciilifeform | adlai: when i laboured under the delusion that i could write a useful trading automaton, i found it simple enough to 'trade' with imaginary btc, gold, etc. | [21:43] |
asciilifeform | to see if algo is worth something | [21:44] |
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adlai | sure, this is possible to implement. that doesn't mean the answers are relevant. | [21:44] |
asciilifeform | adlai: let me guess, your machine relies on actually moving the market ? | [21:44] |
kakobrekla | this works for fx better than btc | [21:44] |
adlai | nope | [21:44] |
asciilifeform | then what is the hidden gotcha in testing with imaginary objects ? | [21:45] |
decimation | I wouldn't mind trying to run a trade bot but it would involve much tax paperwork in the us | [21:45] |
asciilifeform | decimation: 'not caught, not thief' | [21:45] |
adlai | decimation: i'm not a lawyer, but i gather from conversations with them that it's a matter of *precisely* documenting the net p/l and paying tax on that | [21:46] |
kakobrekla | isnt it 'not thief, caught' in murica ? | [21:46] |
decimation | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-01-2015#998041 | [21:46] |
assbot | Logged on 30-01-2015 04:33:41; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: 'Явка с повинной облегчает совесть и удлиняет срок.' (ru. jailhouse proverb: 'a guilty plea lightens your conscience and lengthens your sentence.') | [21:46] |
asciilifeform | decimation: just avoid fiat... | [21:46] |
decimation | adlai: yes, one would have to document each lot traded | [21:46] |
kakobrekla | [21:48] | |
adlai | ofc? | [21:48] |
kakobrekla | ;;ud ofc | [21:48] |
gribble | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ofc | Used in Instant Messaging for Of Course (Of Fucking Course if in all caps). " John121: u going to the movie tomorrow?" "Alex33: ofc". by MisterEgo October 09 , ... | [21:48] |
adlai | which course? | [21:49] |
kakobrekla | south please. | [21:49] |
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kakobrekla | i forgot, do you use buttstamp too? if so i have sort of an exploit for their so called trading engine | [21:53] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108150 @ 0.00038 = 41.097 BTC [+] | [22:10] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 196300 @ 0.00038082 = 74.755 BTC [+] {2} | [22:14] |
mircea_popescu | adlai ok so what did you have in mind ? | [22:23] |
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decimation | re: meritwashing < I think the way this plays out in actual us business is that you are friends with someone who controls bezzlars | [22:25] |
mircea_popescu | Явка с повинной облегчает совесть и удлиняет сок :D | [22:27] |
decimation | heh | [22:28] |
adlai | 03:19:17 | [adlai away: zzz] | [22:29] |
adlai | 03:19:26 +mircea_popescu | adlai ok so what did you have in mind ? | [22:29] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [22:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 101750 @ 0.00037822 = 38.4839 BTC [-] {2} | [22:29] |
adlai | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=28-01-2015#994882 << i've been running it on N btc of my own money, how many are you willing to risk? | [22:30] |
assbot | Logged on 28-01-2015 05:19:40; mircea_popescu: adlai how much capital were you looking for ? | [22:30] |
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mircea_popescu | well, if you make a f.mpif pc and report your trades, say daily, and submit monthly sum reports, i dunno, 10 ? | [22:31] |
adlai | technically speaking, wouldn't this be simplest accomplished by having you provide me with api keys to an account on, say, btce, and us both publishing a readonly key to that account? | [22:31] |
adlai | (this would also be more profitable than other exchanges...) | [22:32] |
mircea_popescu | i don't keep accounts on teh scamchanges. | [22:32] |
adlai | this necessitates trusting them, even if indirectly | [22:33] |
mircea_popescu | nope. it's on you. | [22:33] |
mircea_popescu | this is how finance works. | [22:33] |
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decimation | http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/jill-kelley-e-mails-depict-a-striving-tampa-socialite-and-a-smitten-military-brass/2015/02/03/ef8cb06c-a800-11e4-a06b-9df2002b86a0_story.html?hpid=z2 << apparently being a bigshot usg general means you get to handpick 'honorary ambassadors' to serve you meals | [22:42] |
assbot | Jill Kelley e-mails depict a striving Tampa socialite and a smitten military brass - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1AubAI0 ) | [22:42] |
decimation | "Nor has anyone fully explained why Allen, while busy overseeing the war in Afghanistan, exchanged a blizzard of correspondence with Kelley — between 20,000 and 30,000 pages of e-mails, according to some senior defense officials. Other officials have said that figure includes many duplicate notes and exaggerates the extent of their communications, adding that there were only about 300 total e-mails." | [22:42] |
decimation | why would some four star usg general spend time to send 300 emails to some lebanese groupie chick? | [22:43] |
asciilifeform | http://imgur.com/a/e2RWY << made this quick likbez for the folks here | [22:44] |
assbot | JTAG on PogoPlug. - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1AubOPz ) | [22:44] |
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decimation | then I heard this podcast: http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2013/02/glenn_reynolds.html << "Guest: It's funny--one of my friends, who has been a long-term, upper level bureaucrat in Washington said to me his favorite phenomenon to see is these people coming through these usually politically-appointed jobs and, he says: They think everybody loves them. And then they leave the job and they realize that everybody just loved the job. And | [22:46] |
decimation | that once they are not in the job any more they realize they don't have nearly as many friends as they thought they did. The smarter ones do know this. And that's why so many[?] hang onto power. " | [22:46] |
assbot | " + soundfiledesc + " ... ( http://bit.ly/1Auc9lf ) | [22:46] |
decimation | asciilifeform: why do you need jtag? to blow the fuses? | [22:47] |
decimation | or for online debugging? | [22:47] |
asciilifeform | decimation: lamer reason: it makes reflashing considerably faster. | [22:47] |
decimation | ah | [22:48] |
asciilifeform | decimation: no need to reboot into a working kernel | [22:48] |
asciilifeform | decimation: also lets you play with bootloader safely | [22:48] |
asciilifeform | (it is actually possible to reflash the bootloader through serial port alone, but takes forever) | [22:48] |
decimation | is that a flash card? can you boot off that? | [22:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57500 @ 0.00038225 = 21.9794 BTC [+] | [22:48] |
asciilifeform | where? | [22:48] |
asciilifeform | there's an sd in the slot, yes. you can boot off that, but only if you have a working bootloader | [22:49] |
decimation | the little sim-card connector thingy on the left | [22:49] |
decimation | ah | [22:49] |
mircea_popescu | [22:49] | |
asciilifeform | also, the bootloader does not automatically find kernels on arbitrary devices, you have to script it | [22:49] |
asciilifeform | and it's annoying | [22:49] |
decimation | yeah I can imagine | [22:50] |
asciilifeform | (has to be told what exactly to initialize and where the offset of kernel is, and length) | [22:50] |
asciilifeform | but this is described elsewhere and i will not waste space on it here. | [22:50] |
mircea_popescu | chick's so drastically ugly tho... | [22:50] |
decimation | one would have to write software to craft the correct binary turd | [22:50] |
mircea_popescu | she looks reconstructed out of flotsam. | [22:50] |
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asciilifeform | as for jtag itself, my current favourite is 'busblaster' - made in singapore | [22:50] |
decimation | mircea_popescu: her emails are not particularly intellectually stimulating either | [22:50] |
decimation | asciilifeform: you earlier mentioned using a 'bus pirate' for spi connections | [22:51] |
asciilifeform | aha | [22:51] |
decimation | do you know the max data rate one can continuously suck off the spi? | [22:51] |
asciilifeform | 'bus pirate' is dog slow | [22:52] |
decimation | the documentation is poor. | [22:52] |
asciilifeform | i don't remember the exact rate, no | [22:52] |
decimation | I wouldn't mind having a device that interfaces to arbitrary serial ports at reasonable rates | [22:52] |
asciilifeform | 'blaster' will do 30+MHz | [22:52] |
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asciilifeform | it's a little thing with a 'xilinx' fpga (nonvolatile) and 'ftdi' usb2 diddler | [22:53] |
asciilifeform | you can repurpose it for something non-jtag-ish easily enough | [22:53] |
decimation | ah interesting, one can reprogram the fpga? | [22:54] |
asciilifeform | aha | [22:54] |
decimation | that sounds useful | [22:54] |
asciilifeform | cpld really | [22:54] |
asciilifeform | it's an xc2c64a. | [22:54] |
asciilifeform | this is not a rare device, they're sold by the megatonne | [22:54] |
asciilifeform | on various hobbyist sites | [22:54] |
decimation | yeah you would just need a little reprogramming to change the serial output/input state machines | [22:55] |
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asciilifeform | but if you can build 'openOCD' for your system, this will do everything the 'adult' jtag machines ($xxxxx golden toilets) will. | [22:55] |
thestringpuller | scoopbot --fetch | [22:55] |
decimation | also, today I was thinking about your rsa-signed-udp-packets thingy | [22:55] |
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decimation | it struck me that you could probably use one of those edgerouter lites to make a cheap version | [22:56] |
thestringpuller | o look a hanbot | [22:56] |
asciilifeform | decimation: cheap version of what ? | [22:56] |
asciilifeform | decimation: it doesn't need dedicated hardware, strictly speaking | [22:56] |
decimation | 'check all incoming udp packets for signature' | [22:56] |
decimation | no, but it would be nice | [22:56] |
thestringpuller | how are you this evening? | [22:56] |
asciilifeform | not all! | [22:56] |
asciilifeform | there'd be no room for anything useful | [22:57] |
asciilifeform | think. | [22:57] |
asciilifeform | assume a 4096 bit key | [22:57] |
decimation | you would want enough of a protocol to identify 'possible traffic' | [22:57] |
asciilifeform | decimation: the practical way is to sign 'hello' | [22:58] |
asciilifeform | in response to a valid, non-replayed 'hello' (from known pubkey, naturally), machine sends back a single-use rsa pubkey (generated for the occasion) to the requester | [22:59] |
thestringpuller | all the fluids! I hope you feel better hanbot ! | [22:59] |
asciilifeform | who in turn generates a block cipher (symmetric) key for the occasion | [22:59] |
asciilifeform | and sends it back to the session pubkey | [22:59] |
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mircea_popescu | we still doing the symetric cypher thing ? | [22:59] |
asciilifeform | machine decrypts this. now both sides have a symmetric key | [22:59] |
decimation | yeah but you would want a block cipher that could tolerate lost packets | [23:00] |
asciilifeform | decimation: nope | [23:00] |
asciilifeform | decimation: embed frame | [23:00] |
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decimation | what about just signing each packe? | [23:01] |
asciilifeform | decimation: assume 4096-bit rsa. and udp mtu (576.) | [23:03] |
asciilifeform | also remember that padding exists | [23:03] |
asciilifeform | now compute the maximum payload. | [23:03] |
decimation | yeah but in exchange you can use a full-broadcast model | [23:03] |
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asciilifeform | decimation: where do you intend to broadcast? | [23:04] |
decimation | well, if ip multicast were functional that would be ideal | [23:04] |
asciilifeform | but it isn't. | [23:05] |
asciilifeform | also why make the enemy's job easier by transmitting plaintext ever? | [23:05] |
asciilifeform | ideally even the 'hello' could be encrypted to the destination's pubkey if you know it (and you ought to) | [23:06] |
asciilifeform | no one sitting on the wire should be able to observe anything but garbage. | [23:06] |
asciilifeform | to log readers wondering about the purpose of the disposable rsa key: forward secrecy | [23:07] |
asciilifeform | lacking this, a captured 'hot' node would allow decryption of traffic captured at an earlier time. | [23:07] |
decimation | assuming the programmer properly cleared the old keys | [23:07] |
asciilifeform | (this is an elementary method and i did not in any way invent it) | [23:07] |
asciilifeform | assuming programmer is not retarded. | [23:08] |
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decimation | asciilifeform: what about the dream of a persistent global namespace? | [23:09] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41448 @ 0.00038233 = 15.8468 BTC [+] {2} | [23:09] |
asciilifeform | decimation: how do you suppose it plugs in here ? | [23:09] |
decimation | it doesn't. but individually signed packets do. | [23:10] |
asciilifeform | you'd have to transmit >mtu packets - or use shorter keys | [23:10] |
asciilifeform | neither really appeals | [23:10] |
asciilifeform | or rather, if you implement one of the error codings discussed earlier, you can shoot out a small signed gibblet at a time, yes | [23:11] |
asciilifeform | and have them reassemble | [23:11] |
decimation | I suppose mircea has already described why a 'global namespace' is a poor fit for chat | [23:12] |
asciilifeform | 'zooko's triangle' etc | [23:12] |
asciilifeform | thing is, if you forget about the 'memorable', there is no triangle. | [23:13] |
asciilifeform | all you need is a better memory. | [23:13] |
asciilifeform | pgp keys are, in practice, all the global namespace you could ask for. | [23:13] |
asciilifeform | nobody's going to generate a colliding key. | [23:14] |
decimation | yeah that's a good point | [23:15] |
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thestringpuller | alf: http://mightyohm.com/files/soldercomic/FullSolderComic_EN.pdf | [23:30] |
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asciilifeform | thestringpuller: send that back in time to the 9 y.o. me | [23:35] |
asciilifeform | !up Vexual | [23:35] |
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thestringpuller | i imagine 9 yo you had a giant robot and a laboratory | [23:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52997 @ 0.00038235 = 20.2634 BTC [+] | [23:36] |
asciilifeform | no, but had soldering iron | [23:37] |
mircea_popescu | hence his ideas about thermocrypto. | [23:40] |
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asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: http://www.my-garage.spb.ru/img/238.jpg << a cryptoanalytic soldering iron. | [23:41] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1zhxFaZ ) | [23:41] |
coderwill | hi everybody | [23:41] |
mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2015/how-do-the-aparatchicks-live/ << hopefully the entire us civil service reads this. | [23:42] |
assbot | How do the aparatchicks live ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1zhxLzi ) | [23:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 203950 @ 0.00037822 = 77.138 BTC [-] | [23:44] |
coderwill | anyone working on any new projects? | [23:48] |
coderwill | i was reading about qntra, btw, that sounds really cool - i like the idea behind it. definitely would love to submit some material, it's going to take me a while to read 6 months of the logs though. :) | [23:49] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: 'Years, decades, you've done your part to build the great progressive future... ...the work instead of imaginary devils...' << who said the general necessarily believes in anything other than the fat paycheck (not from army, naturally, but 'consulting' gigs) and cheap whores ? | [23:50] |
mircea_popescu | coderwill http://trilema.com/category/job-board/ | [23:50] |
assbot | Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1zhzaGb ) | [23:50] |
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mircea_popescu | asciilifeform if that scrawny harpy is what a fat paycheck buys in the us | [23:50] |
mircea_popescu | give me mongolia. | [23:50] |
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coderwill | mircea_popescu: thanks for the link, must not be any jobs since it 404'd, hehe | [23:51] |
mircea_popescu | uh ?! | [23:51] |
mircea_popescu | assbot doesn't knoiw what it's talking about. | [23:52] |
coderwill | haha | [23:52] |
thestringpuller | can asswot graph be in d3? | [23:52] |
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asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: any reason to think that the particular specimen was the primary whore ? | [23:52] |
asciilifeform | could just as easily be a spare. | [23:53] |
mircea_popescu | once we're in the camp, i wish to be in the room with alf. | [23:53] |
coderwill | also, sorry, didn't mean to just come across like i was looking for work (although this page looks great, thanks). also was just asking for conversational purposes if any new stuff is happening. | [23:53] |
mircea_popescu | for clearly it will not be the real camp, but merely a spare one. | [23:53] |
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mircea_popescu | coderwill but more productive for that purpose to read teh logs. | [23:54] |
coderwill | mircea_popescu: ok | [23:54] |
* | asciilifeform has not met especially many specimens of u.s. military brass, but the ones he saw alive gave the impression of being something quite like professional actors. | [23:54] |
mircea_popescu | dead on the inside ? | [23:54] |
asciilifeform | just another role, for these folks; all you need - hindbrain. | [23:54] |
asciilifeform | aha. | [23:54] |
mircea_popescu | lemme show you aman | [23:55] |
mircea_popescu | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5a/Flickr_-_Israel_Defense_Forces_-_20th_Chief_of_Staff%2C_Lt._Gen._Benny_Gantz.jpg | [23:55] |
mircea_popescu | find me an us counterpart. | [23:55] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/16r3suI ) | [23:55] |
asciilifeform | not familiar with this one | [23:55] |
mircea_popescu | the jews are ahead. | [23:56] |
asciilifeform | or are we just doing physiognomy. | [23:56] |
Vexual | GAMMPool spec are a little thin, what do you actually wanna do? | [23:56] |
mircea_popescu | we're doing physiognomy. | [23:56] |
thestringpuller | mircea_popescu: yea ass graph is pretty big, dont' think 1 in regards to: http://trilema.com/2015/open-assbot-wot-website/ will be very pretty | [23:56] |
asciilifeform | if physiognomy - not that different from a certain boss's boss i remember | [23:56] |
mircea_popescu | thestringpuller like 500-1k points on a 700k field neh. | [23:56] |
thestringpuller | http://cookiechief.com/wotviz/ << well even with heavy force the lords are overlap each other. maybe l2 may not be as bad. gimme on sec and I'll update with postive ratings from L2 | [23:57] |
mircea_popescu | ah you were working on a corner of this weren't you | [23:58] |
mircea_popescu | course nothing loads. | [23:58] |
thestringpuller | not loading for you? | [23:58] |
asciilifeform | but it wouldn't surprise me the least bit to learn that today's u.s. colonels who think too much, tend to retire as colonel | [23:59] |
asciilifeform | perhaps mats has something to add to this. | [23:59] |
thestringpuller | oh you run noscript don't you? | [23:59] |
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