Forum logs for 27 Sep 2017
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform what was the soviet term for the "moment of realisation" that sovietism is actually a lie ? i forget | [01:36] |
| trinque: | http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/akPqa/?raw=true << The IP address for deedbot.org and wot.deedbot.org shall be 45.32.123.240 from block 487154 until further notice. | [02:21] |
| trinque: | actual !!deed processing shall return tomorrow. | [02:21] |
| trinque: | DCs that cause me server migrations before launch of a new product can get pissed on. | [02:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | ikr? | [02:23] |
| trinque: | this is why logbot was written such that services don't have to live anywhere near the server providing the IRC connection. | [02:23] |
| trinque: | mircea_popescu: incompetence or malice, what the fuck is this 6am to 9am as a service window shit? | [02:25] |
| trinque: | BingoBoingo: and hey, why don't you script a qntra deploy and blast it on a new VPS every other week? | [02:26] |
| trinque: | isn't like the thing has a phuctor-sized database to haul around | [02:26] |
| trinque: | rough approximation of the hypertext dht thing I'm going to conjure, really. | [02:29] |
| * trinque | hits the hay | [02:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | nn. | [02:30] |
| trinque: | ^ brb | [02:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | no hay foir you. come back -- one year. | [02:45] |
| trinque: | wb! | [02:58] |
| BingoBoingo: | <trinque> BingoBoingo: and hey, why don't you script a qntra deploy and blast it on a new VPS every other week? << A few reasons: 1. I r idiot, 2. Database updating constantly which means need box and not VPS rapehole, 3. This points to Republican ISP needed or no nice things | [05:28] |
| BingoBoingo: | !~later tell davout Still alive or did the neighbors eat you? | [05:42] |
| jhvh1: | BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded. | [05:42] |
| BingoBoingo: | !~later tell davout_ Still alive or did the neighbors eat you? | [05:42] |
| jhvh1: | BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded. | [05:42] |
| BingoBoingo: | !~ticker --market all | [05:45] |
| jhvh1: | BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 3958.7, vol: 9575.32164784 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 3960.8, vol: 20372.76450966 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 3814.3968, vol: 1267.52710000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 3958.4, vol: 4710.16859887 | Volume-weighted last average: 3954.76025382 | [05:45] |
| davout: | BingoBoingo: I r alive | [07:48] |
| shinohai: | Shit I find all the good stuff when qntra is no more http://archive.is/7ufZx | [09:08] |
| shinohai: | RagnarDanneskjol: I know who you are, soul of Ragnar Lodbrok come back to haunt us on Woden's day. Well ye won't be conquering no earldoms here, no Sir! | [09:20] |
| shinohai: | Teh terr0ristz go after the Defense Secretaryz! http://archive.is/lUVkF | [09:48] |
| jurov: | sourceforge down for 2 days already, and noone notices anymore | [09:59] |
| shinohai: | noticed but no qntras | [09:59] |
| jurov: | just my crazy idea: what about s.nsa buying it out, with all the data? | [09:59] |
| asciilifeform: | lol what for ?! | [10:00] |
| jurov: | you searched for misc old code versions many times, no? | [10:00] |
| asciilifeform: | if it dun exist in gentoo mirrors, it likely ain't of any use | [10:01] |
| asciilifeform: | and the integrity of anything stored in shitforge is highly dubious | [10:01] |
| asciilifeform: | jurov: recall when they were caught red handed infecting tarballs ? | [10:03] |
| asciilifeform: | ( not even speaking of the winblowz exes ) | [10:03] |
| shinohai: | "We have the latest ROT13 reverse-encryption enabled on all accounts and have no idea how this could happen" | [10:07] |
| jurov: | i had in mind old cvs/svn repos, not tarballs. i doubt they could competently infect these | [10:14] |
| shinohai: | "Paul Horner, Famous Fake News Writer, Found Dead at Age 38" | [10:16] |
| asciilifeform: | in other lulz, https://archive.is/k7sr8 >> '...106,000 foreigners suspected of being involved in terrorism and other crimes... The number of foreigners targeted under Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act rose from 94,000 in fiscal year 2015...' | [10:30] |
| asciilifeform: | jurov: aaaaaaand it's back. grab whatever tars you like, no need to buy anything. | [10:34] |
| jurov: | Not very up. | [10:41] |
| asciilifeform: | oh hm dead again. | [10:42] |
| asciilifeform: | http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-27-sep-2017#2343033 << there was not a specific name for this afaik | [10:47] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-09-27 05:36 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what was the soviet term for the "moment of realisation" that sovietism is actually a lie ? i forget | [10:47] |
| asciilifeform: | ( maybe in ro ?? ) | [10:47] |
| trinque: | lol sbcl.org down | [11:51] |
| asciilifeform: | not simply down | [11:52] |
| asciilifeform: | RST's | [11:52] |
| asciilifeform: | interestingtimes. | [11:53] |
| danielpbarron: | achtung panzers, all orders (of mine) have been shipped | [12:21] |
| cruciform: | danielpbarron: nice! | [12:22] |
| cruciform: | can you add me to you WoT? | [12:23] |
| danielpbarron: | it's possible | [12:27] |
| asciilifeform: | https://archive.is/XkB9Q << in other lulz: deloitte, massive usg slave galley, pwned | [12:28] |
| asciilifeform: | 'Emails to and from Deloitte’s 244,000 staff were stored in the Azure cloud service, which was provided by Microsoft. ' | [12:29] |
| asciilifeform: | oh hey hey hey lbj! crate #2 is here. | [12:50] |
| mats: | found this gem http://www.reuters.com/article/us-sec-kraft-heinz/u-s-sec-accuses-heinz-guard-of-insider-trading-before-berkshire-3g-deal-idUSKBN16M2UI | [15:50] |
| ben_vulpes: | campaign against knowing anything about how the world works will continue until the risk free rate is negative | [15:52] |
| asciilifeform: | in other lulz from same rag, https://www.rt.com/news/404638-russia-kalashnikov-flying-car | [15:55] |
| asciilifeform: | ( oblig old thread : http://btcbase.org/log/2015-03-31#1080346 ) | [15:55] |
| a111: | Logged on 2015-03-31 02:54 asciilifeform: 100 - a man | [15:55] |
| asciilifeform: | well not same rag, lol, but opposite sign bit rag. | [15:57] |
| asciilifeform: | 'In a complaint filed in Manhattan federal court, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission said Todd David Alpert made $43,873 of illegal profit after learning of the proposed Heinz takeover while working as a dispatcher for the director, who sat on Heinz’s board for several years.' << lol!! | [15:58] |
| asciilifeform: | though quite the unsurprise, only goldmansachs et al can make legal profit in usaschwitz | [15:59] |
| ben_vulpes: | shabby take, at that. | [16:03] |
| asciilifeform: | ben_vulpes: prolly limited by d00d's spending cash | [16:04] |
| asciilifeform: | ( and credit limits ) | [16:04] |
| asciilifeform: | if he really was a doorman. | [16:04] |
| asciilifeform: | ( though it seems like a dire violation of http://btcbase.org/log/2015-06-10#1158785 principle. i've nfi ) | [16:05] |
| a111: | Logged on 2015-06-10 03:40 asciilifeform: 'watchman may not know what is behind the door he is guarding if he knew - would steal it himself' (tm) (r) (sov army) | [16:05] |
| ben_vulpes: | perhaps 50k is the most one can hope to make on a short term 100% leveraged play in the states i've no idea what his relationship with the brokerage was like but he *had* to have had a margin account, it would be an offense to the oldladyempire if someone didn't | [16:06] |
| asciilifeform: | ben_vulpes: what i meant is, he likely had, say, 5k, to turn into 50 if had 10 - would turn to 100 etc | [16:06] |
| asciilifeform: | and presumably whole affair didn't last long enough to connect the hose and form arsemouthsystem | [16:07] |
| ben_vulpes: | myeah, i hear ya | [16:08] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-27#1717776 << not that hard to nuke a box, all of them do reinstalls and shit | [16:09] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-09-27 03:18 asciilifeform: but no more leaving intact os+etc when leaving a hoster, by default. it is unhygienic. | [16:09] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: idea was, to automate, make it wholly mechanical part of moving shitbox providers on arbitrarily short notice (i.e. 0 notice to the one who's being ditched until ~after~ you've moved the contents) | [16:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | if only anyone in the fiat world were this acute.\ | [16:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-27#1717809 << o.O whatever happened to you! | [16:15] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-09-27 11:48 davout: BingoBoingo: I r alive | [16:15] |
| asciilifeform: | ( the other half of $idea, was that shitbox oughta be convertible to 'godly' os+env, mechanically, kvmlessly, (again with 0 notice to human on isp end), and without retaining 1 single byte of what was on the box when they gave you login ) | [16:15] |
| * asciilifeform | pictures davout as having the same job as the bear in old american cartoon 'tail spin', and so he dun have net access often from the old flyin'boat | [16:17] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-27#1717813 << i doubt anyone'd notice if facebook was down for two weeks, either. at this point, 100% of the fiat "traffic" is simply bots. they will happily http://trilema.com/2015/facebook-sends-traffic11eleven/ until the end of times. | [16:22] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-09-27 13:59 jurov: sourceforge down for 2 days already, and noone notices anymore | [16:22] |
| mircea_popescu: | there is in fact no one to notice. | [16:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform btw, for your romanian studies, i propose http://trilema.com/2010/oda-la-moartea-unei-pisici-preaiubite-inecata-intr-o-covata-de-carasi/ | [16:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | i suspect you know the original. | [16:23] |
| asciilifeform: | oh neato | [16:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-27#1717815 << why, so they can use the money to continue trying to prop usg in some fashion ? fuck them. should have long ago came to kneel and submit here. | [16:26] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-09-27 13:59 jurov: just my crazy idea: what about s.nsa buying it out, with all the data? | [16:26] |
| asciilifeform: | eh i'd give fiddybux for it. of lunch money. just so that the next day ALL the winblows exes will format c: | [16:28] |
| mircea_popescu: | http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-27#1717844 << you misunderstand the way sec works in these "insider trading" cases is very much EXACTLY alf's "peasant with rembrands go to jail". the man's crime is that he made money. simply and purely that, it is ASSUMED that he couldn't have known, on the strength of being a nobody. that's it. | [16:29] |
| a111: | Logged on 2017-09-27 19:52 ben_vulpes: campaign against knowing anything about how the world works will continue until the risk free rate is negative | [16:29] |
| mircea_popescu: | the "subtle" view being that this discourages gambling which is a societal good. | [16:29] |
| asciilifeform: | from lizard pov, he took what belongs to hitler, plain an' simple | [16:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | but much like all property is presumed of the crown, with random sefs such as yourself merely in tenous tenancy (known as precaria, historically), which is why you can have things such as "cases in rem", because the court admits no ownership vested IN PERSONS | [16:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | just so all knowledge is also presumed in the crown, and you knowing something "you shouldn't have" simply means you spied. what else could it mean ? | [16:30] |
| mircea_popescu: | "your honor, i'm smarter than the inca, natch" ? | [16:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | everywhere in the world, this thing of yours, is yours, and the court may inquire after it. in the us, like in all slave empires, this thing of the court, you, MAYBE, may beg for. | [16:31] |
| asciilifeform: | the rembrandt case took place, ftr, in ro | [16:32] |
| asciilifeform: | ( granted, nato ro ) | [16:32] |
| mircea_popescu: | well, europe. i dun recall, uk, ro, etc. | [16:32] |
| asciilifeform: | and where exactly does peasant own ? i'd like to buy a plane ticket... | [16:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | was stolen from netherlands and taken to london was it ? something like that. | [16:33] |
| asciilifeform: | afaik nowhere does peasant own more than fits in his arse. | [16:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform afghanistan, for one. | [16:33] |
| asciilifeform: | antarctica, for two... | [16:34] |
| mircea_popescu: | and that's just the letter A! | [16:34] |
| asciilifeform: | 1 possibly interesting observation is that if the d00d had a btctronic means of capitalizing on his 'insiderism', he might still walk the big zone, unmolested | [16:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | except nobody + crypto = terrorism neh | [16:38] |
| asciilifeform: | instead he took in a wad of electro-fiatola, which is instant alarm bell at nsa ( whole directorate, as described in 2013 leakz ) | [16:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | where was that northafrica piece about "refused to give passwords, interferes with crown" ? | [16:39] |
| asciilifeform: | some time this wk | [16:39] |
| asciilifeform: | but regular thing. | [16:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | so notrly. only thing left for him is to joestack before they ^ | [16:39] |
| asciilifeform: | the heuristic is pretty simple -- d00d lives in plebelands, in cardboard house, works cardboard job, etc. and suddenly his bank balance grows a coupla decimal places ? bell rings. | [16:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | and yes "that's not what i wanted to hear", but the fucking problem with going "lalalaican'thearyou" for 50 years is that when you finally quit it and listen it'll sound exactly like "too late, mr shcmucktard" | [16:40] |
| asciilifeform: | unless, i suppose, you are hruschev, and your travel is always by means of own battleship, it is flatly stupid to keep seekritz in places nosy idjits in foreign ports can easily get to, e.g. civilian baggage | [16:54] |
| mircea_popescu: | im pretty sure hruschev had his passport stamped when entering us, like any other schmuck. | [16:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | tis the ourdemocracy fantasy. | [16:59] |
| ben_vulpes: | a+ landlords: http://archive.is/gyQpm | [17:43] |
| asciilifeform: | ~all american houses burn like matchsticks, why is that particular one famous | [17:45] |
| asciilifeform: | ( who recalls the thread in - iirc - '14, where mircea_popescu described how a chum of his came to usa, and tried to build a nonburning house, and Had Problems, went home in the end ) | [17:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | aha. | [17:51] |
| deedbot: | http://trilema.com/2017/the-bitter-lot/ << Trilema - The bitter lot | [18:18] |
| * mircea_popescu | thanks asciilifeform, the premise turned out to be extremely fertile! | [18:18] |
| * asciilifeform | read it earlier, while deedbot slept | [18:19] |
| * asciilifeform | like many folx, has own ad-hoc cat-and-rat-system | [18:20] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform pictures davout as having the same job as the bear in old american cartoon 'tail spin', and so he dun have net access often from the old flyin'boat << AHA, you do remember Disney other than jaundiced pooh | [18:43] |
| BingoBoingo: | davout: I'm wondering if an progress was made finding Francophone datacenters outside France, preferaby in the heart of the dark continent | [18:46] |
| * mircea_popescu | encourages the editor in chief. | [18:54] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: it was actually translated some time around 1990 | [19:08] |
| asciilifeform: | BingoBoingo: dark continent << didn't we have a d00d in za at some point..? | [19:09] |
| BingoBoingo: | editor in chief is lead fishing | [19:31] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform: It was the fluffypony monero guy, he's introduced in a Trilema. 2013-ish if I remember | [19:36] |
| asciilifeform: | then we definitely, afaik, have nobody in za | [19:36] |
| asciilifeform: | d00d went full bore idjit loong ago. | [19:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | is "za" zaire ? | [19:36] |
| BingoBoingo: | mircea_popescu: za is south africa | [19:36] |
| BingoBoingo: | Petrus land | [19:36] |
| asciilifeform: | duffer'sdrift land | [19:36] |
| mircea_popescu: | this makes sense. | [19:36] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform: I did not specify south africa. If I recall davout was off the gold coast | [19:37] |
| asciilifeform: | incidentally did BingoBoingo ever read 'duffer's drift' ? | [19:37] |
| BingoBoingo: | http://trilema.com/2013/why-finance-shouldnt-be-open-to-your-average-schmoe/ << There it is | [19:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | why the fuck do we want what's left after rhodesia's rape for any purpose ? | [19:37] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform: Has not yet seen | [19:37] |
| mircea_popescu: | BingoBoingo there's also http://trilema.com/2014/fuck-me-fuck-you/ | [19:37] |
| asciilifeform: | i dunno that it belongs on the we-want list | [19:38] |
| asciilifeform: | but it meets some of the technical litmuses. | [19:38] |
| BingoBoingo: | mircea_popescu: AHA | [19:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform such as what, black chix coding ? | [19:38] |
| asciilifeform: | nah that's in the other africa | [19:38] |
| BingoBoingo: | Well, survey of not NATO means surveying... Not NATO | [19:38] |
| mircea_popescu: | their fucking motto is "unity in diversity" ffs. | [19:40] |
| asciilifeform: | also i have nfi whether the item that remained after the rape, is still squirming or not. | [19:41] |
| asciilifeform: | theoretically some part of it -- may be | [19:41] |
| asciilifeform: | ~somebody~ is buying those flamethrowers. | [19:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | technically australia is also "not in nato" or whatever the fuck.\ | [19:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | scarcely any difference. | [19:43] |
| asciilifeform: | 5eyes ~= nato | [19:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | which is my fucking point here. south africa is not off the list of shitholes just because it's where white cucks go to have their wives strechtertained | [19:43] |
| BingoBoingo: | Chad, Cote de Ivory, Somalia, Liberia, Nigeria | [19:44] |
| asciilifeform: | if mircea_popescu says za is an unterraformable pesthole, then it is. | [19:44] |
| * asciilifeform | has deeply nfi | [19:44] |
| BingoBoingo: | Perhaps boki haram has datacenters? | [19:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | if they can keep 'em up. | [19:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | apparently stretchtertained is not a word, as far as the alphabet ai knows. but evidently http://trilema.com/2016/welcome-to-baluba-island/ | [19:46] |
| BingoBoingo: | Hey, if Microsoft can do servers in tents | [19:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | BingoBoingo it's easier for them, they don't have to actually work. | [19:46] |
| BingoBoingo: | le sigh, there goes dream of coffee shop next to datacenter being staffed by black people in white suits all county club style | [19:49] |
| mircea_popescu: | why, you can have that in egypt. | [19:53] |
| BingoBoingo: | Egypt is too practically NATO, the Israelis are right there | [19:54] |
| BingoBoingo: | In today's WAPO wank of the day: "There is no single, definitive answer to how Roy Moore, American politics closest approximation of a theocrat whos twice been removed from the state Supreme Court for disobeying orders, was able to beat the twin political machines of the White House and the Senate leadership in his comfortable defeat of Sen. Luther Strange." | [19:56] |
| BingoBoingo: | How does a Justice of a Supreme Court recieve "orders"? | [19:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | ahaha | [20:06] |
| mircea_popescu: | "there is no answer we can think of besides the one we don't want to!" and other http://trilema.com/2016/and-they-wont-fucking-yield/ | [20:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | BingoBoingo anyway, why is the idea WH was supporting strange ? didn't like, trump beleete his support tweets and errythang ? | [20:10] |
| BingoBoingo: | mircea_popescu: The blog post on that is baking. | [23:03] |
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