Forum logs for 27 May 2016

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
asciilifeform: city is so.. ~alive~. [00:20]
trinque: gets better the further you are from mordor [00:31]
asciilifeform: it is astonishing, the gurlz have faces [00:34]
asciilifeform: and when i look at them they look back like humanbeings [00:35]
danielpbarron: are you at a bar asciilifeform ? [00:43]
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: nope [00:48]
asciilifeform: what made you think i was [00:49]
asciilifeform: i merely was describing some of my observations from this excursion to outside of my jail. [00:51]
asciilifeform: unfortunately it is not as easy to go out of inner jail. [00:51]
Framedragger: "unfortunately it is not as easy to go out of inner jail." << i picture here a seneca with a screwdriver [04:10]
Framedragger: $ nslookup [05:35]
Framedragger: nslookup [05:35]
Framedragger: ping $_ [05:35]
Framedragger: 64 bytes from [05:35]
Framedragger: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ohey i know this hosting company :D the physical server is probably in šiauliai, a small town with good uplink heh [05:36]
Framedragger: i think i once contacted them about running a tor exit node there, they had said well if you put in your own reverse dns info for the ip block we give you then we 100% don't give a shit [05:36]
Framedragger: but mircea_popescu you of course know that lithuania is like 169% US's bitch. this was confirmed with drug market raids etc etc, but it's a generally known fact anyway. that being said, heh, cool. [05:37]
Framedragger: (^ failed paste, nslookup yields, but no diff) [05:50]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform traveling best thing to ever happen to you huh. [07:47]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> what made you think i was << how excited you sounded :D [07:47]
mircea_popescu: Framedragger i honestly don't give a shit what small national governments think they're doing or not doing or whatever. "lithuania" the subject of law is as unrecognized as usg is. no relation to anything, no power to anything, they can write bluntman and chronic comics about how "it is" an' "keep it real" if they so wish. [07:49]
mircea_popescu: and speaking of which, anyone saw "chasing amy" ? the piece of shit is iiiiincredible in terms of sheer soviet propagandaness, it's basically a 1997 intro manual for how to be a "sensitive" aka dickless libtard boi. [07:50]
mircea_popescu: replete with "asa da!" / "asa nu!" miniscenes, "ask amy" cameos and all the rest of the stupid. total fucking wow. [07:51]
mircea_popescu: and, as a sad testament of just how fucking stupid usians actually are/were, it'd seem they mostly bought it, too. [07:52]
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz : (supposedly, "kickstarter for games"). [08:05]
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: yeah of course - i just meant that any LT servers cannot be considered to be "bullet-proof" but maybe you were not aiming for the latter in terms of phuctor hosting anyway [08:38]
mircea_popescu: i am not aware of any services that can be considered bulletproof much like i'm not aware of any electoral process that can be considered representative, any computer code that can be considered correct or any fiat financial item that can be considered not a scam. [08:50]
shinohai: <<< Never saw, because I can't stand Joey Lauren Adams. Someone needs to sew her mouth shut with a dick in it. [08:55]
a111: Logged on 2016-05-27 11:50 mircea_popescu: and speaking of which, anyone saw "chasing amy" ? the piece of shit is iiiiincredible in terms of sheer soviet propagandaness, it's basically a 1997 intro manual for how to be a "sensitive" aka dickless libtard boi. [08:55]
mircea_popescu: which one is that ? iirc it had one of the tilly sisters in it [08:58]
mircea_popescu: whichever speaks through her nose. [08:58]
shinohai: Got to be the same woman, has the most annoying voice, was also in mallrats [08:58]
shinohai: [08:59]
mircea_popescu: ow shit [09:00]
mircea_popescu: holy shit SHE was in married with children [09:01]
mircea_popescu: i was convinced the occasional slut is also one of teh tilly sisters [09:01]
mircea_popescu: wowza. [09:01]
mircea_popescu: anyway they all look ~same [09:02]
* BingoBoingo discovered a new word cleaning pending qntra comments: legix! As in Mt Gox was the most legix exchange. [09:05]
shinohai: lol [09:05]
BingoBoingo: Legix can be many things, but legix is mostly not legit. [09:07]
BingoBoingo: Actually let's define Legix: 1. Could be many things, but legix is most pointedly not legit [09:12]
BingoBoingo: Legit comments on a totally legix image macro [09:14]
Framedragger: "i am not aware of any services that can be considered bulletproof much like i'm not aware of any electoral process that can be considered representative, any computer code that can be considered correct or any fiat financial item that can be considered not a scam." << i see your point and i agree, however it's probably not "all of the same" [09:15]
Framedragger: "i am not aware of any services that can be considered bulletproof much like i'm not aware of any electoral process that can be considered representative, any computer code that can be considered correct or any fiat financial item that can be considered not a scam." << i see your point and i agree, however it's probably not "all of the same" e.g. have a reputation of being more hardcore i know this sounds naive and it probably i [09:15]
Framedragger: e.g. have a reputation of being more hardcore i know this sounds naive and it probably is, but i've heard this from trustable sysadmins running, er, shadier stuff. this is of course anecdotal and it's naive to trust someone with your hardware anyway. [09:15]
Framedragger: sorry 4 spam [09:15]
BingoBoingo: That apology sounds legix. [09:16]
Framedragger: BingoBoingo: u what m8 [09:17]
BingoBoingo: I am adds to tmsr.vocab not the word we want, but the word we need. [09:18]
* shinohai proposes entry into wiki under `venacular` . [09:19]
Framedragger: anecdotal case in point (hey it's amusing): [09:19]
Framedragger: Live Support | Thomas: we allow botnets. [09:23]
Framedragger: stephen: excusme ? you must be joking [09:23]
Framedragger: Live Support | Thomas: Yes, sure, we allow. Give us money and we host you and we will **** the german police [09:23]
mircea_popescu: nulla pula sine legix! [09:23]
BingoBoingo: ticker --market all --currency rmb [09:23]
gribble: BTCChina BTCRMB last: 3271.55, vol: 62094.65320000 | Volume-weighted last average: 3271.55 [09:24]
mircea_popescu: Framedragger what do you mean "it's not all the same" ? it IS all the same what's gonna happen, they're going to get a supoena and they're going to say fuck you, and shoot the issuing judge ? [09:24]
mircea_popescu: see also [09:25]
mircea_popescu: that's the whole point : that until and unless ~we~ actulaly do a thing, all the other things are EXACTLY all the same. [09:25]
mircea_popescu: or, as the classical expression goes, vanitas vanitatum. [09:26]
mircea_popescu: (and yes, the classical imprecation to not build yourself fortunes/castles/a life atop the vanities of the fiat world but instead collect your fortune, house and life in the WoT stands quite exactly.) [09:29]
mircea_popescu: that's the ultimate meaning of all the christian blundering to date : they were trying to build the republic and had nfi. [09:29]
Framedragger: fair enough. but i also tell you that there are hosting providers which say fuck you to LE of specific states but ultimately it boils down to the same security question: "how important are you?" - if you're important enough then sentimentalities of sysadmins will be ignored. [09:31]
mircea_popescu: and there are wolves that don't eat your sheep. nice. [09:32]
mircea_popescu: if you're important enough then sentimentalities of sysadmins will be ignored. << this, incidentally, isn't a matter of neglect it is a matter of design. consider it works exactly as a sort of "training for unimportance". [10:00]
mircea_popescu: whole matter ties right into why i do not consider anonymity a valid approach. [10:01]
mircea_popescu: otherwise, if you go by this currently fashionable "i'll aim to be nobody and call it privacy and to do nothing worth the mention and call it security", the only certainty is that you'll be nobody and have done nothing, which is exactly the fucking purpose of the socialist state - death in your time. [10:02]
mircea_popescu: the correct, if obviously harder, path is to be someone AND do something. and if they bitch, escalate, indefinitely. [10:03]
mircea_popescu: odds are you'll get killed but the only certainty is the socialist state won't survive. [10:03]
Framedragger: yeah. i mean one day i'll grow balls and get out of my comfort zone of sorta-pseudo-anonymity. your points are valid here, even though i think it's possible to do useful/productive work under pseudo/anonymity. this doesn't work if you require the *world* to recognize your awesomeness, of course :) [10:10]
Framedragger: but it's possible to maintain stable pseudo identities in groups of people wherein those identities are recognized for what they do etc etc. [10:10]
mircea_popescu: sure this says nothing of pseudonymity. [10:16]
BingoBoingo: Framedragger: Pseudonymity is different. You ARE the pseudonym. [10:17]
mircea_popescu: all "identity" is pseudonimity/ [10:18]
Framedragger: hm, yeah. [10:18]
Framedragger: right you are i was mixing the terms to further my point [10:18]
Framedragger: true anonymity kinda sux in terms of achievement. [10:18]
mircea_popescu: see, but any construction of identity in terms other than pseudonimity (such as, "issuing" of "id" as opposed to generating rsa key) is merely a ploy by the socialist state, designed specifically to introduce a red herring in the conversation. [10:19]
Framedragger: s/achievement/just getting things done/ [10:19]
Framedragger: designed to introduce an external implicit trust node [10:19]
Framedragger: right. [10:19]
mircea_popescu: they aim to misrepresent the pseudonimity-anonimity debate as governmentidentity-anonimity, and thus change the result. [10:19]
mircea_popescu: much like when they want obama to win, they propose a contest between obama and another identical fucktard, rather than between obama and someone who isn't a system fucktard. [10:20]
mircea_popescu: Framedragger there's some minimal gains via anonimous systems (see the whole anon/loic/times man of the year/blabla stuff). it is juvenile. [10:21]
mircea_popescu: it is in fact right and proper for the juvenile to be anon and then graduate to wot. [10:21]
BingoBoingo: And news for alfs [10:21]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> it is in fact right and proper for the juvenile to be anon and then graduate to wot. << AHA, College! [10:21]
mircea_popescu: hey mike_c ? [10:27]
mircea_popescu: god damned it, writing piece for qntra, can't link to btcalpha profiles because well... it dun exist. [10:27]
deedbot: [Qntra] Spain (WOT:nonperson) Raid And Arrests Mining Farm Operators - [10:57]
deedbot: [Recent Phuctorings.] Phuctored: 5391673272318505738681 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Lou Anschuetz <> ' - [10:59]
mircea_popescu: 30k worth of "bitcoin mining centers" ?! wtf. [10:59]
mircea_popescu: 865159723 is a prime (the 44`318`624th) newly found nao. [11:03]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: eh snore, mirrored mod [11:04]
mircea_popescu: yeah, just keeping track of teh 8ball myself :) [11:05]
asciilifeform: lolk [11:06]
trinque: man somebody needs to drop adlai in the desert with an airstream full of water and food until he's fully detoxed [11:07]
trinque: there, I just started the republic's first rehab [11:07]
mircea_popescu: you suspect he'd be perfectly fine if only hadn't the misfortune of his compatriots being around ? [11:09]
asciilifeform: trinque: sign me up also! [11:09]
asciilifeform: in another desert [11:09]
asciilifeform: (though i'd prefer tundra) [11:09]
mircea_popescu: bear will eat you alf. [11:09]
BingoBoingo: trinque: Nah, pretty sure I started republic's first rehab. Or maybe caz. Even mp's work reforming USian college victims might count as first rehab. [11:09]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd rather be eaten there than here. [11:10]
trinque: BingoBoingo: heh point [11:10]
asciilifeform: (being eaten is apparently not optional) [11:10]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Y you not like chicago for eating by bear? [11:10]
mircea_popescu: i'd prefer the term re-slut. [11:10]
shinohai: later tell mod6 new `t` changes working a-ok with zero bugz [11:10]
gribble: The operation succeeded. [11:10]
trinque: mircea_popescu: perhaps fine if not for years of rotating pharmaceuticals [11:11]
asciilifeform: i had a dream last night that i went to an open air dope market [11:11]
asciilifeform: and couldn't decide among many colourful dopes [11:11]
asciilifeform: triangular, octagonal, pentagonal pillz, etc [11:12]
asciilifeform: i had nfi what they did [11:12]
trinque: it must've been weird dream night mine was buying old computer parts in a dystopian curio shop [11:12]
asciilifeform: but couldn't decide which one to take, and so ate none [11:12]
deedbot: [Qntra] Interview With Email Service Founder Vincent Canfield - [11:22]
asciilifeform: snore logz reprint [11:25]
shinohai: [11:25]
mircea_popescu: that "supoena" thing is a true wonder. 1. issued by police dept ? 2. "this is authorized" ? by who the fuck is it authorized, have the adult in charge sign for you. [11:26]
mircea_popescu: 1, police state plaza, new york ? [11:26]
BingoBoingo: lol [11:26]
mircea_popescu: anyone even saw that orwellian nightmare of a sovietism ? [11:26]
asciilifeform: 'can't have a police state without police' (tm) (r) (al schwartz) [11:27]
asciilifeform: idk why they even bother with the wasted paper [11:28]
asciilifeform: it is rather like having bear break into a song and dance before eating tourist [11:28]
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure this was a pdf. [11:28]
mircea_popescu: for maximal lulz, return pdf subpoenas, "unreadable proprietary format - please resend in latex". [11:28]
asciilifeform: sure but still, why the legalizms. [11:28]
asciilifeform: what does it change. [11:29]
asciilifeform: why not just bust door and skull. [11:29]
mircea_popescu: because money asciilifeform [11:29]
asciilifeform: it isn't as if the pretense the legalism was meant to uphold has any life remaining in it. [11:29]
mircea_popescu: hence [11:29]
a111: Logged on 2016-05-27 14:03 mircea_popescu: odds are you'll get killed but the only certainty is the socialist state won't survive. [11:29]
asciilifeform: what money. nsa pays moar lawyers than programmers. [11:29]
mircea_popescu: it has TONS of life in it. notice how it works, intellectually, exactly on the same framework as spam email. [11:29]
asciilifeform: why not cut out the dead weight. [11:29]
mircea_popescu: "this has been authorized" [11:30]
mircea_popescu: orly ? [11:30]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nothing fantastic, usg lawyer is not 'liberal profession' but a type of clerk. [11:30]
asciilifeform: they are legion. [11:30]
mircea_popescu: hm ? [11:30]
asciilifeform: sorta like police judge's relation to actual judgw [11:31]
asciilifeform: *judge [11:31]
mircea_popescu: note that it also misses pretty much everyting : the badge/id number of responsible agent is missing, there's no direct contact phone, etc. [11:33]
asciilifeform: isn't that an elementary part of mircea_popescu's observation re 'usg corporate shield that you must break and re-personalize the interaction' [11:33]
asciilifeform: naturally policeman doesn't introduce himself by name [11:34]
mircea_popescu: but he is required to do so by law an' regulation. [11:34]
asciilifeform: consider how when they break down a door, they wear masks [11:34]
asciilifeform: like any other bandit. [11:34]
asciilifeform: like stereotypical executioner [11:34]
mircea_popescu: otherwise... a piece of pdf reading "supoena" is not distinguishable or to be distinguished from an email reading "you have won the google intel microsoft award" [11:34]
mircea_popescu: and the policy is to shoot masked people breaking down doors. [11:34]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the idea is that it is distinguished by the crashing sound as 50 heavily armed bandits break in [11:35]
mircea_popescu: like any other bandit. [11:35]
asciilifeform: shoot, shoot [11:35]
asciilifeform: (imho you will get better mileage with high explosive, and ~same chance of survival) [11:35]
mircea_popescu: point security measure left at the discretion of point sovereign. [11:36]
asciilifeform: sure. [11:38]
mircea_popescu: also, ro policement at least do introduce self by name. [11:40]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: usa police have 2 basic modes of operation [11:41]
asciilifeform: one is the kind with the masks and smoke grenades [11:41]
asciilifeform: and no introductions. [11:41]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: There's the action you are forgetting when you casually meet the on the street and bitch about Obama together over cigarettes. [11:56]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: didja miss the 'don't talk to cops!111' memo. [11:58]
BingoBoingo: How else do you find out why the closed the road you wanted to take other than by asking them. [12:00]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: where i live they will reply with grunts, like the soldiers in 'wolfenstein'. [12:01]
BingoBoingo: Well don't live there. Maybe try asking Chicago cop which where you get the best hotdogs in town? Throw out how you think this just might be the Cubs year to win it all. Chances are he'll talk like a person and leak intel. [12:03]
BingoBoingo: That or abduct you to their blacksite. Chicago PD can be unpredictable. [12:03]
shinohai: <<< DOS nostalgia incoming [12:04]
a111: Logged on 2016-05-27 16:01 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: where i live they will reply with grunts, like the soldiers in 'wolfenstein'. [12:04]
asciilifeform: yer rubbin' it in BingoBoingo [12:09]
* asciilifeform has most of a day before going back to the swamplandz [12:09]
* BingoBoingo can't wait until alf visits non-Chicago middle West [12:11]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: what do visit there? corn ? [12:11]
asciilifeform: i suppose i could have tea with BingoBoingo [12:11]
asciilifeform: but what else. [12:11]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Smaller cities like St Louis, Kansas City, Milwauke, and yes the corn. [12:11]
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: "talking to cops" is not "drinking with cops" [12:14]
mod6: anyone wanna help me test the cmd line version of [12:19]
mod6: oh nevermind, i think shinohai has it covered. totally didn't see that. [12:20]
* asciilifeform misread as 'talking to corn' [12:24]
* asciilifeform not yet ready for talking to corn [12:24]
trinque: but asciilifeform... they're all ears [12:24]
* trinque takes his demerit [12:25]
asciilifeform: i oughta ask adlai what pill to take so that the corn will ~listen~. [12:25]
shinohai: Corn is a good listener imo [12:26]
asciilifeform: anyway i like ~actual cities~ [12:27]
mod6: so I think, hopefully sometime today, i'll send out to the ML as is - however i don't really expect anyone to use themselves. sending it to the ML for more of posterity purposes. [12:27]
mod6: people will be expected to interact {add,edit,remove,view} tickets through tbot - which is probably .. eh, 70% complete. [12:28]
mod6: maybe 80%. [12:28]
shinohai: Can i break it again? :D [12:28]
ben_vulpes: trinque: lol [12:29]
mod6: shinohai: heh, hopefully by the time we're done there it'll hold together. [12:31]
mod6: we're pretty close to the first testing of it in here -- have some loose ends to tie up (the remaining ~20%). if history is any guide, there will be more to do as change requests, etc. but at least we'll have somethign that works. [12:34]
trinque: man do I love the model of bot services as compared to "web apps" [12:43]
trinque: command line > * [12:43]
shinohai: ^ [12:44]
trinque: you ask me to do something, and hell, I might. but when I get to it. [12:44]
mod6: trinque: totally [12:46]
mircea_popescu: << ahahahaha o god i laughed so hard [13:01]
a111: Logged on 2016-05-27 16:24 trinque: but asciilifeform... they're all ears [13:01]
mircea_popescu: << word. [13:02]
a111: Logged on 2016-05-27 16:43 trinque: man do I love the model of bot services as compared to "web apps" [13:02]
deedbot: [Trilema] The great "law enforcement" article - [13:52]
phf: $s from:mircea dog [15:09]
a111: 226 results for "from:mircea dog", [15:09]
mircea_popescu: yay! [15:09]
mircea_popescu: $s urmom [15:09]
a111: 64 results for "urmom", [15:09]
mircea_popescu: win [15:09]
mircea_popescu: $s from:asc grep like [15:09]
a111: 2 results for "from:asc grep like", [15:09]
mircea_popescu: $s from:asc like grep [15:10]
a111: 2 results for "from:asc like grep", [15:10]
mircea_popescu: take THAT alfie! [15:10]
trinque: sweet! [15:10]
mircea_popescu: $google tumblr whores [15:10]
deedbot: << Where Whores Come to Worship | << Whores & Milfs Degraded | << Sluts whores and cum buckets [15:10]
mircea_popescu: xanadu! [15:10]
phf: does word boundaries too, though since i don't know how to do it properly word boundaries are an explicit set of characters from ASCII. [15:11]
shinohai: \o/ [15:11]
mircea_popescu: what do you mean "does word boundaries" ? [15:12]
hanbot: hey mircea_popescu looks like you're big in taiwan [15:12]
mircea_popescu: eh alexa, whadda they know. [15:12]
phf: mircea_popescu: if you search for dog it will match for "dog," "bee-dog" "(dog)" and such, but not "dogma" nor "dogсобака" [15:13]
mircea_popescu: mmm [15:13]
mircea_popescu: ok! [15:13]
phf: grep is still there, and will basically remain as such by doing `"dog"` [15:14]
phf: $s "dog" [15:14]
a111: 2539 results for "\"dog\"", [15:14]
phf: $s dog [15:14]
a111: 882 results for "dog", [15:14]
mircea_popescu: aha! so only for freeform does it wordboundry ? [15:14]
mircea_popescu: splendid. [15:14]
* hanbot is going to chinatown later, will look for trilema tchotchkes [15:14]
mircea_popescu: ahaha [15:14]
phf: (this ensures that ascii can continue mashing keys without reading the docs!!! and get reasonable results, but one can still extract precise information out of the machine) [15:18]
mircea_popescu: lol [15:18]
phf: in other news sold for $4,800 [15:21]
a111: Logged on 2016-05-18 13:14 asciilifeform: phf et al: [15:21]
mircea_popescu: ⓣⓐⓚⓔ ⓣⓗⓐⓣ ⓟⓗⓕ! ⓛⓔⓣ'ⓢ ⓢⓔⓔ ⓨⓞⓤ ⓖⓡⓔⓟ ⓣⓗⓘⓢ! [15:23]
ben_vulpes: jesus [15:24]
mircea_popescu: lord hath only one true son and his name is ⓤⓣⓕ [15:25]
shinohai: <<< still can't figure out why it is worth sending a tx for dust just to watch a video. [15:25]
mircea_popescu: shinohai prolly trying to get the "clips4sale" market. [15:25]
mircea_popescu: except it's not really much of a market, but anyway [15:25]
phf: btcbase server still fails at taking unicode in queries, but i suspect that irc works (or it will possibly bring the log down..) [15:26]
phf: $s ⓣⓐⓚⓔ [15:26]
a111: 2 results for "ⓣⓐⓚⓔ", [15:26]
mircea_popescu: lol win [15:26]
phf: $s "ⓣⓐⓚⓔ" [15:26]
a111: 4 results for "\"ⓣⓐⓚⓔ\"", [15:26]
shinohai: Not a single camwhore in site. At least I can waste money with sluts on [15:26]
phf: $s "ⓣⓐⓚⓔ" [15:26]
a111: 6 results for "\"ⓣⓐⓚⓔ\"", [15:26]
mircea_popescu: $s ⓣⓐⓚ [15:27]
a111: 1 results for "ⓣⓐⓚ", [15:27]
mircea_popescu: 1 results and when i follow teh link it's all "no results, bro" [15:27]
phf: yeah, i know the web side is borked, but i think 1 result is actually the search query itself, which is a bug [15:28]
ben_vulpes: shinohai: xotika is still a thing? [15:28]
phf: $s LpgE2Hmci3km [15:28]
a111: 1 results for "LpgE2Hmci3km", [15:28]
phf: [15:28]
trinque: heh [15:29]
trinque: it's not wrong it's just an asshole [15:29]
mircea_popescu: an asshole is never wrong [15:29]
shinohai: afaik ben_vulpes ... I kinda stopped going after same 3 girls all the time [15:30]
phf: for good measure it should say 2 results, counting the bot's answer [15:30]
trinque: << oblig [15:35]
mircea_popescu: we need to get a distributed computing for bitcoin thing going though. [15:37]
mircea_popescu: btw trinque you still working on deedbot payments ? [15:37]
mircea_popescu: the derpy "watch a video for bitcoin" thing is just what you'd expect out of usgistan. meanwhile, a irc-bot driven client that does ethernet and computation, and charges for these would be pretty sweet. [15:42]
trinque: yeah that's coming. [15:42]
trinque: vc: relatedly, how much for a box [15:42]
mircea_popescu: basically, imagine a future where everyone who wants to (or doesn't care/know enough to not want to) runs the tmsr-bot, which registers its prices with deedbot, and then i can go !bot <order> and deedbot parcels it out to the bots it knows, and reports the rersults when done. [15:43]
mircea_popescu: insta-aws, for bitcoin, unstoppable. [15:43]
mircea_popescu: be it loic or folding at home or anything in between. [15:43]
vc: trinque: $10 for 1GB memory, 30GB storage, and 1TB bandwidth [15:44]
* shinohai wipes away a tear [15:44]
mircea_popescu: the power to gut teh web. [15:44]
vc: if you're interested there's exactly one slot left [15:44]
trinque: vc: that's too small [15:44]
phf: i take it he ran out of box [15:44]
vc: it's SSD storage and only one physical server, hence the price [15:44]
vc: I am not linode ) [15:45]
trinque: idgaf about the price [15:45]
mircea_popescu: i take it he got a single colo'd box imagining the market in terms of "shared server" derps and then ran into tmsr and everyone wants whole boxes and phuctor runs on a 256gb monster. [15:45]
vc: oic [15:45]
trinque: jack it up 5x and gimmeh bawks! [15:45]
trinque: lol [15:45]
mircea_popescu: vc get more boxes colo'd, for srs. what is this "one box" bs. [15:45]
vc: mircea_popescu: toss me another 1.7k eur and we'll talk ) [15:45]
trinque: point being they'd sell [15:46]
trinque: especially colo'd in iceland [15:46]
vc: romania [15:46]
trinque: oh, thought you'd said iceland? [15:46]
trinque: I had been looking into that myself [15:46]
mircea_popescu: romania is not terribru in any sense. [15:46]
trinque: nbd [15:46]
vc: nah you might have seen the URL of an ars technica article that said iceland [15:46]
vc: and my parent host, flokinet, is based out of iceland [15:47]
mircea_popescu: but they have no iceland servers ?! [15:47]
vc: no they do, they are just very very expensive [15:47]
vc: the bandwidth, specifically [15:47]
mircea_popescu: a, there is that. [15:47]
mircea_popescu: iceland infrastructure is kinda meh. they peer with britain-the-shithole and that's that. [15:48]
trinque: << "All our hosting packages include unrestricted bandwidth and 100 Gigabytes of data traffic. Dedicated bandwidth is also available on request." [15:56]
trinque: I'm gonna reach out to them for a quote [15:56]
mircea_popescu: uh. wtf "100 gb of data traffic" what's that even mean [15:56]
trinque: no idea [15:56]
trinque: seems to contradict itself [15:57]
trinque: 100gb of unrestricted traffic restricted to 100gb [15:57]
mircea_popescu: i bet you what they mean is, they allow "any" burst, (ie, they got some slack in the routers, so you can concievably get 100mbps or such), but they literally meter the bg to .1 tb/month [15:57]
mircea_popescu: ie, if i ran trilema from there i'd need 10 packages. [15:58]
trinque: yeah [15:58]
mircea_popescu: well wtf is this, a cellphone or a server ? [15:58]
mircea_popescu: (ftr, most major device gamers burn more than 100gb/month in data a good game can well go over the gb just to install, and the churn is massive, i think the dedicated azn shrimp goes through 10k a month or some such shit) [15:59]
deedbot: [» Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Penny stock spam texts: an anthology. - [16:41]
mircea_popescu: and in other accomplished slut news, [17:17]
shinohai: ^ multitasker, win. [17:28]
mircea_popescu: lol [17:28]
mircea_popescu: btw vc you totally should look into eulora. beats eve out of the water. [17:28]
shinohai: I want to run a trb node on one of vc 's boxes if he gets moar power [17:30]
phf: there's actually "4 GB Memory 4 CPU cores 120GB SSD Space 4TB Bandwidth" option, he just ran out of allocation for the current box [17:38]
trinque: that would be more than adequate for me [17:38]
trinque: vc: ^ want [17:38]
vc: shinohai, trinque: noted, along with ben_vulpes's offer. I will let you guys know as soon as I decide to expand :) [17:45]
trinque: sweet! [17:45]
asciilifeform: << win. [18:03]
a111: Logged on 2016-05-27 19:23 mircea_popescu: ⓣⓐⓚⓔ ⓣⓗⓐⓣ ⓟⓗⓕ! ⓛⓔⓣ'ⓢ ⓢⓔⓔ ⓨⓞⓤ ⓖⓡⓔⓟ ⓣⓗⓘⓢ! [18:03]
* asciilifeform takes off hat [18:03]
shinohai: [18:37]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the letters in a circle were very important to have as glyphs because some people can't think otherwise. [18:41]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wut [19:01]
asciilifeform: also in chicago modem worx on train [19:01]
asciilifeform: holyshit [19:01]
asciilifeform: in tunnel, i mean [19:01]
BingoBoingo: ticker --market all [19:14]
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 470.26, vol: 12079.16275283 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 467.8, vol: 12941.60984 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 451.0, vol: 4.26073272 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 496.321332, vol: 74752.45100000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 470.9, vol: 1744.79227392 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 471.5728, vol: 209.9632246 | Volume-weighted last average: 489.10970125 [19:14]
BingoBoingo: more [19:15]
gribble: Error: You haven't asked me a command perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick. [19:15]
mircea_popescu: and in other news, [19:30]
mod6: got all the tomatoes, basil, pumpkins, eggplants, squash, and r. lettuce planted in the pouring rain. tomorrow: strawberries, watermelon, broccoli, early/late cabbage, short/long cukes, brussel sprouts, and dill [19:56]
* mod6 gardener [19:56]
mod6: lol [19:56]
BingoBoingo: lulz [19:56]
shinohai: Just thing of how that will taste on the grille with some phesant mod6 :D [19:57]
BingoBoingo: mod6: You don't do seeds? You let big greenhouse start your plants? :( [19:57]
mod6: yeah! man, phesant is excellent. [19:58]
mod6: BingoBoingo: yeah. for now, just learning. was actually thinking, while getting drenched, if I can find a place to start from seeds & get appropriate sun, would do it. [19:58]
mod6: a little short on space for that. :/ [19:58]
mod6: but ~maybe~ next year. [19:58]
BingoBoingo: What about where you put the plants from big greenhouse? [19:59]
BingoBoingo: Seeds start just fine in the dirt. [19:59]
mod6: well, its pretty much ungrowable until like first week of may here. [19:59]
shinohai: germinare well in fridge as well! >.> [19:59]
shinohai: *germinate [19:59]
mod6: i dunno, i guess i could. my understanding was that most of these greenhouses start the seeds in like march time-frame. but maybe i'm way off there. [20:00]
mod6: i've seen it snow here on June 1st before. [20:00]
mod6: in your fridge?! [20:00]
mod6: huh. i'll have to do that next year and see how it goes. [20:00]
mod6: i think the real trick is to collect the seeds from the plants. [20:00]
shinohai: Yeah soak those fuckers then trick seeds into thinking spring [20:01]
mod6: not sure exactly how to do that on some of them. like tomatoes and cukes are obvious, but what about the cabbabe and dill, etc? [20:01]
mod6: shinohai: aight, cool. will give that a shot next year. [20:01]
BingoBoingo: Just get some jiffy pots and put the seeds in the window sill them? [20:01]
mod6: that's the one problem. not a lot of window-sill real-estate for that shit. plus: cats. [20:02]
mod6: they fuck up all plants. [20:02]
mod6: anyway, thanks for the advice. will test that next year for sure. [20:05]
BingoBoingo: Send them to vacation with alf in chicago for a few months until the frost threat leaves? [20:09]
mod6: he's going to chiraq? [20:09]
shinohai: asciilifeform if you get bored call: [20:35]
asciilifeform: lel i'm going home presently [20:36]
shinohai: It's ok asciilifeform it appears she is in my home town too! How quaint. [20:38]
asciilifeform: spamolade [20:39]
asciilifeform: was obvious instantly from photo [20:39]
asciilifeform: unless yer blind [20:39]
shinohai: I'm drunk so imma call her pimp and ask if they want a railroad job. [20:41]
asciilifeform: shinohai: collect nigerian million first [20:46]
asciilifeform: it will help. [20:46]
shinohai: This is Nigeria. If I don't get new 1 Trillion bill I'm going home. [20:47]
shinohai: *100 trillion [20:48]
mircea_popescu: mod6 rain planting works for the plants :D [21:13]
mod6: yeah, they certainly got a new home. [21:18]
mod6: i was up to my gd eyeballs in mud lol [21:20]
mod6: i told the girls that we'll try by seed germ. next yaer, but they agreed that'd be a pita. [21:22]
mod6: a good test either way tho [21:22]
shinohai: Here no rain but still 28°C - sweating balls [21:22]
* asciilifeform not looking forward to reswamping [21:23]
mod6: its like 16C here [21:26]
mod6: er, 18 [21:26]
mircea_popescu: mod6 you could try making a hard transparent plastic foil lean-to [21:27]
mircea_popescu: basically put a wooden frame like an old screen door or w/e upright, and the plastic from it. [21:28]
mod6: ah, like a little greenhouse ? [21:29]
mod6: that'd be rather awesome if that's what you mean, and it might come to that tbh. [21:29]
mircea_popescu: yeah, it should be enough to get the seedlings up [21:30]
mircea_popescu: just make sure you orient it for sun/wind [21:30]
mod6: *nod* would take care of the cat problem too. [21:30]
shinohai: .22 LR also takes care of cat problems. [21:35]
asciilifeform: shinohai: savage [21:35]
mod6: haha, so will bathtub with water. [21:36]
mod6: but, eitherway, i happen to like these fuckers. [21:36]
asciilifeform: cat is a useful and ornamental animal [21:36]
asciilifeform: i cultivate them wherever i live [21:37]
mod6: they are amazing hunters. [21:37]
shinohai: Yeah I have a cat I adore, jut those feral ones that tear up stuff [21:37]
asciilifeform: i cultivate those specifically. [21:37]
shinohai: One cannot simply make pets of them [21:37]
shinohai: Or perhaps asciilifeform has method previously unknown to hoomans [21:38]
mod6: one cat that used to be an "outdoor" cat in my radius would bring me mice like everyday. i felt bad because i couldn't bring him one. :/ [21:38]
asciilifeform: my method is to not demand anything of wild critters [21:38]
asciilifeform: let'em be, enjoy watching [21:38]
shinohai: Enjoy watching what, my garbage strewn all over driveway? [21:39]
asciilifeform: shinohai: if you feed'em something nice, they won't look for garbage. [21:40]
shinohai: Here kitty, kitty. Come eat this nice steak that asciilifeform paid for. [21:41]
shinohai: You no longer must eat garbage! [21:41]
asciilifeform: lel [21:41]
asciilifeform: a dose of kibble is a few cents [21:41]
shinohai: I tried putting the housecat kibble out, still they persist. [21:42]
asciilifeform: what's in your garbage anyway [21:42]
asciilifeform: raw fish? [21:43]
shinohai: Perhaps tuna cans at best. [21:43]
asciilifeform: so feed'em the scraps. [21:44]
shinohai: I'd be more than happy to feed the lot of them, tuna, kibble, whatever. [21:45]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you'd be fuckinbg happy in istanbul. [21:47]
mircea_popescu: i think 1mn people of the same mind live there. i've never seen as many cats. [21:47]
mircea_popescu: prolly 1bn cats live within a 200 mile radius [21:47]
asciilifeform: meow!11 [21:48]
mod6: meow is right [21:48]
mircea_popescu: on the upside, pigeons aren't much of a problem [21:48]
mod6: lol [21:48]
asciilifeform: can't picture a rat lasting long there [21:48]
mircea_popescu: yeah, they do, because they gang together in wet spots [21:49]
mircea_popescu: cat's aren't that persistent. [21:49]
asciilifeform: hm interesting [21:49]
shinohai: Anywho, please don't think I'm evil because I suggest a varmit gun. I do love my cat because no other good reading companion. [21:49]
phf: they literally build cat houses in public parks with elaborate architecture, i've seen four or five of those [21:49]
mircea_popescu: we think you're evil just for sport. [21:49]
mircea_popescu: phf ah, right, you been there. tell 'em about the catmania! [21:50]
phf: but on the flip side every side street smells like a russian apartment complex back stairs [21:50]
mircea_popescu: myeah. [21:50]
phf: they address their cats "citizen cat" in turkish [21:50]
asciilifeform: lol phf had same back stairs i did apparently! [21:51]
mircea_popescu: or they sold same vodka [21:51]
asciilifeform: ahahahah [21:51]
shinohai: lolz [21:51]
mircea_popescu: you know the joke with the assburning btw ? [21:51]
* phf wants to hear the joke with assburning [21:53]
mircea_popescu: in this alternate universe, the comrade general secretary of the central committee of the romanian communist party, comrade nicolae ceausescu isn't shot [21:54]
mircea_popescu: but instead just sorta... sent out to bum the rest of his days [21:54]
mircea_popescu: and he's kinda depressed, and haunts this lowest of the lowest dive, [21:54]
mircea_popescu: where this one eyed lame bartender asks him religiously what he wants to drink ? vodka ? samogon ? gasoline ? solvent ? [21:54]
mircea_popescu: and he picks vodka, gets plastered, goes out and falls in a ditch where he falls asleep [21:55]
mircea_popescu: a local faggot, seeing the man sleeping in a ditch, pulls down his pants, fucks him in the ass, [21:55]
mircea_popescu: then when done stuffs a 30 cent bill in his pocket and departs. [21:55]
mircea_popescu: ceausescu wakes up eventually, rifles own pockets, disocvers money, drags self back to bar [21:55]
mircea_popescu: vodka ? samogon ? gasoline ? solvent ? [21:56]
mircea_popescu: drinks another vodka, gets plastered, goes to same ditch falls alseep. [21:56]
mircea_popescu: faggot fucks him again. [21:56]
mircea_popescu: ceausescu wakes up again, rifles own pockets again, disocvers money again, drags self back to bar. [21:56]
mircea_popescu: vodka ? samogon ? gasoline ? solvent ? [21:56]
mircea_popescu: gimme some of that brandy, this damned vodka's making my asshole burn. [21:56]
asciilifeform: l0l11 [21:57]
shinohai: >.< [21:57]
phf: heh [21:58]
mircea_popescu: (samogon, for the innocent, is a "anything you got" sort of brandy that long predates vodka) [21:58]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: moonshine in engl [21:59]
mircea_popescu: i guess. not really the same item at all. [22:00]
mircea_popescu: << this. [22:00]
asciilifeform: moonshine. [22:00]
asciilifeform: they have a word for it. [22:01]
asciilifeform: like prolly everyone. [22:01]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform moonshine is this tenessee cvasi-whiskey. [22:01]
asciilifeform: brb airplane [22:01]
mircea_popescu: (ie, corn or generally cereal mash distillate) [22:01]
mircea_popescu: heh they give him plane money ? i'd have expected he has to walk. [22:07]
mod6: lol, see ya in 3 months. [22:44]
mod6: aight, there's another few things this lead to [22:50]
mod6: i'll have to try again tomorrow. but the site updates are correct anyway. [22:50]
mod6: this is just little shit like the help menu. [22:50]
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