Forum logs for 26 Nov 2017

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
ben_vulpes: brilliant ideas from the let's-build-careers-and-fingertraps-for-the-unwary-by-running-javascript-on-the-server crowd: [00:58]
deedbot: << Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Specs and designs for the first ever Bugatti-Comps. [01:15]
trinque: aaand automatic wallet creation when n00bs register with deedbot [01:17]
ben_vulpes: aaand patient died on the operating table. [01:21]
ben_vulpes: no idea why resizing sda3 would kill my poor gentoo, but lo, i killed her jim. [01:22]
* trinque plays taps [01:23]
BingoBoingo: Poor mr vulpes [01:23]
ben_vulpes: i have backups, including my usual obsessive notes from the run that brought the frankenbox up in the first place, ain't the end of the world, just the realization of some deferred losses. [01:24]
trinque: << in other prying open of black boxes [01:24]
mircea_popescu: heh] [02:17]
mircea_popescu: in other naked truths, ttps:// [09:00]
mircea_popescu: meh. [09:00]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in "sudden & overnight moral panics / signalling fashions at Kink High usually spend a coupla years in the making", [09:02]
mircea_popescu: whole fucking #metoo bullshit was ongoing in 2015 outside of nobody said anything (and sure as fuck nobody roundkicked around the house any of the mousey whinebags involved). #surprised? [09:04]
mircea_popescu: "why doesn't trilema publish something about #random-idiocy-of-today ???" "because it did years ago, back when you should have been paying attention". [09:05]
mircea_popescu: and speaking of history, here's a well forgotten bit (finally wikipedia can be useful, recent pop culture topic!) : [09:46]
mircea_popescu: " : New York's WNEW-FM was converted from a long-respected rock station to all-talk in 1999, with afternoon drive show Opie and Anthony as the focal point. Ron and Fez signed on to host an overnight talk show named Ron and Fez Dot Com, beginning February 21, 2000 and broadcast from 11pm–3am. Ron and Fez eventually moved to evenings (7:00–11:00 pm), then to early afternoon (12:00–3:00pm) and later back to th [09:46]
mircea_popescu: e evening timeslot. Buoyed by Opie and Anthony's lead-in ratings, the duo began to enjoy success. During this period, several memorable characters joined their on-air team, including taciturn producer Hawk, Dumpy, Tasteless Ginny, and the call-in prankster Joe Poo. The show's web-based premise inspired the founding of several websites devoted to the show, including (once a haven for the show's cadre of young fema [09:46]
mircea_popescu: le fans), and the unofficial site for the show. Though "Dot Com" was soon dropped from the show's title, Ron and Fez have garnered an admirable online following due to" [09:46]
mircea_popescu: needless to say that all those websites are dead and that the "cadre" of young female fans is long rotten away, the 16 to 21 yo female crowd is all over what even these days ? etsy/patreon/facebook/what ? FUCKTARDS FUCKING RUINED THE GROUPIE! 2010s are a regression to fucking 1950, holy hell, gotta have elvis come back to shake his hips once more ? [09:48]
mircea_popescu: WNEW-FM didn't suck in the 90s. where is it. what happened. questions! [09:48]
cruciform: <- wonderful! cannot wait for the end of the fiat-enabled welfare/warfare state, with all its attendant pervsersions [09:50]
mircea_popescu: cruciform did you notice the cartoon with the baby turtles ? [09:50]
cruciform: mircea_popescu: haven't got to that section yet :) [09:50]
mircea_popescu: aok. [09:51]
mircea_popescu: and in other radio news, [10:11]
ag3nt_zer0: re: bitfinex tether usdt - mtgox 2.0? [14:30]
asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: see also [14:36]
asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: participation in goxes, of any and all forms, is OPTIONAL [14:36]
ag3nt_zer0: good morning asciilifeform... thx! looking for reliable info... [14:37]
asciilifeform: lol 'reliable info' on what [14:39]
asciilifeform: lemme guess, on 'the right time to get out of this particular gox' ?? [14:39]
asciilifeform: the answer is... there is no right time to be IN it to begin with [14:39]
asciilifeform: and having been 'in' it to begin with at ANY point is symptomatic of severe problems ~on your end~ [14:40]
asciilifeform: whole. fucking. point. of. bitcoin. is that you dun need a gox. never, for nothing, at no point. [14:41]
asciilifeform: << fwiw i never heard of either of these [14:42]
a111: Logged on 2017-11-26 15:11 mircea_popescu: and in other radio news, [14:42]
asciilifeform: << or of this. wtf is that ? [14:42]
a111: Logged on 2017-11-26 14:00 mircea_popescu: meh. [14:42]
asciilifeform: << lulzily, observe that this is coming out just about immediately when crapple PHASED OUT the chip ( it got replaced with the face mugshot idiocy ) [14:43]
a111: Logged on 2017-11-26 06:24 trinque: << in other prying open of black boxes [14:43]
asciilifeform: << didja resize ~down~ ?? afaik resizing down never, at any point, worked ~anywhere. [14:43]
a111: Logged on 2017-11-26 06:22 ben_vulpes: no idea why resizing sda3 would kill my poor gentoo, but lo, i killed her jim. [14:43]
trinque: neh, thought the faceID thing used the "secure enclave" too [14:44]
asciilifeform: hm, does it ? i'll admit, i did not follow in real time. [14:44]
trinque: << aha, state of the art!!11! [14:44]
asciilifeform: lolk [14:45]
asciilifeform: 'Even if you don’t enroll in Face ID, the TrueDepth camera intelligently activates to support attention aware features, like dimming the display if you aren't looking at your iPhone or lowering the volume of alerts if you're looking at your device. For example, when using Safari, your device will check to determine if you're looking at your device and turns the screen off if you aren’t.' << ahahahhawut [14:45]
asciilifeform: hey recall that patent, 'test if plebemeat is actually looking at the ads, if not -> no jam for supper' ? [14:46]
asciilifeform: apparently live nao. [14:46]
asciilifeform: 'Users with physical limitations can select “Accessibility Options” during enrollment that doesn't require the full range of head motion to capture different angles' << but at least one can register Officially as a tard !111 and cheat. [14:46]
asciilifeform: for now. [14:46]
hanbot: sounds like compulsory buttplug is right around the corner [14:47]
asciilifeform: verily. [14:47]
asciilifeform: << is asciilifeform the only one who had some hope that this was a serious post ? [14:48]
a111: Logged on 2017-11-26 06:15 deedbot: << Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - Specs and designs for the first ever Bugatti-Comps. [14:48]
ag3nt_zer0: asciilifeform reliable info just meaning a look at the situation from an area of the btc world that isn't full of shit - HERE being the only place I trust... and re: "no right time to be in it" I am assuming you mean having control of private keys at all times and that if I am really interested in trading in a "reliable" way that I should be doing it here?, via WOT channels? or am I in outerspace herE? [14:53]
asciilifeform: !~ticker --market all [14:54]
jhvh1: asciilifeform: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 9100.02, vol: 10602.28780808 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 9240.2, vol: 61199.18993364 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 9085.7, vol: 3027.16298779 | Volume-weighted last average: 9214.08800107 [14:54]
asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: correct, control of private keys. [14:54]
asciilifeform: but at the very least, if yer gonna put someone else at your reactor controls, have it be somebody you can actually rate. [14:55]
asciilifeform: ag3nt_zer0: see also thread, and elsewhere. [14:59]
a111: Logged on 2017-11-23 16:17 mircea_popescu: also that ballas quote re giving up the capital. [14:59]
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i was hoping for eg trinary circuits, dataflow fabric, but quickly disappoint. [14:59]
ben_vulpes: also did manage to resurrect box by regenerating mbr with lilo [15:00]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: was hoping for something, anything, other than monkey noises. but disappoint. [15:00]
ben_vulpes: gotta recalibrate yr expectations, i guess [15:02]
deedbot: << Trilema - Let's de-Ballas a Ballas piece. On rape. Well... on "rape", anyway. But it's with sexing genders and interns so you know... [16:28]
mircea_popescu: << that is the 30mn entrepreneur, [16:34]
a111: Logged on 2017-11-26 19:42 asciilifeform: << or of this. wtf is that ? [16:34]
mircea_popescu: (surprisingly to no one but the sort that get surprised by such things, kim kardashians' us pics are heavily edited.) [16:34]
mircea_popescu: the previous item are radio hosts, a major underpinning of us counterculture throughout the 70s and 80s. not really much left by the 90s, and totally gone now. [16:35]
mircea_popescu: << honestly this isn't even such a bad idea. [16:36]
a111: Logged on 2017-11-26 19:47 hanbot: sounds like compulsory buttplug is right around the corner [16:36]
mircea_popescu: (for the harem, obviously, not so much for harem-wannabes, but that's aside ) [16:37]
mircea_popescu: << consider at some point switching from this situation where you keep trying to entice us to look at shit to where you actually contribute something yourself. it'll be a lot better for you. [16:38]
a111: Logged on 2017-11-26 19:53 ag3nt_zer0: asciilifeform reliable info just meaning a look at the situation from an area of the btc world that isn't full of shit - HERE being the only place I trust... and re: "no right time to be in it" I am assuming you mean having control of private keys at all times and that if I am really interested in trading in a "reliable" way that I should be doing it here?, via WOT channels? or am I in outerspace herE? [16:38]
deedbot: << Loper OS - The Peculiarly Quiet Decline and Fall of the KVM [18:55]
mircea_popescu: << IPKVM, obviously. [20:13]
a111: Logged on 2017-11-26 23:55 deedbot: << Loper OS - The Peculiarly Quiet Decline and Fall of the KVM [20:13]
asciilifeform: for 4k?!?!! [20:13]
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone uses kvm in the sense you use it. [20:13]
asciilifeform: it's a box, that at one time was sold everywhere, and worked with the gear of the time [20:14]
asciilifeform: 1 display <-> n comps [20:14]
asciilifeform: with hand toggle [20:14]
mircea_popescu: it's a box, which was once driven by the needs of people offering ISP services, which was consequently sold everywhere and which you picked up and used in your own way. meanwhile the people that drove the kvm item moved on, leaving you stranded. because how you use it and how they use it were never fundamentally the same, just briefly appeared that way. [20:15]
asciilifeform: 0 to do with the isp item (ipkvm) -- wholly different gadget that suffers from misfortunately collided name. [20:15]
asciilifeform: used to operate moar comps in a room than there is room for consoles. [20:16]
mircea_popescu: not at all. kvm item appeared to serve the isp market, not the alf market. [20:16]
asciilifeform: << conventional 1990s (vga) kvm, for reference. 0 connection to isp remote kvm [20:16]
mircea_popescu: obviously 1990s tech will not reference 2010 tech wtf nonsense is this. [20:16]
mircea_popescu: that "conventiona 1990 vga kvm" EXISTS so that people in the noc can look at their god damned comps [20:17]
mircea_popescu: not so you can do pcb layouting [20:17]
asciilifeform: kvm apparently even deader than asciilifeform thought, if mircea_popescu managed to entirely forget that it existed. [20:17]
mircea_popescu: jesus christ. [20:17]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the only place i ever used one, in the 90s, WAS IN DATACENTER. not at your fucking house. [20:18]
asciilifeform: and yes i had massive one when i was a bofh. 32 holes. and yes these still sold. [20:18]
asciilifeform: ( 32 vga hole. ) [20:18]
asciilifeform: i suspect that mircea_popescu is right in re why the hand-cranked items sold today are still vga-only -- they are for use of gnomes, in the mines. [20:20]
asciilifeform: ( why remote-controlled box is vga-only is not a mystery ) [20:20]
mircea_popescu: right. [20:21]
mircea_popescu: nobody even had a decent monitor in the whole fucking noc. half of them at that point still fuckling tandys or whatever the fuck bicolor cgas. [20:22]
asciilifeform: today you'll see folx use rack mount lcd, slides out sorta like an oven door [20:23]
mircea_popescu: yes, but not ideal (gotta go over to the box). [20:23]
asciilifeform: ( if you ever wonder where surplus 1990s tft panels go -- they went to make these. ) [20:23]
asciilifeform: right, they're used for per-rack hand-cranked sweat -- sorta like those rack-mount rotary phones one sees in photos of old pbxen [20:24]
mircea_popescu: i wonder if ppl even have any fucking clue WHY it's "~dial~ tone". [20:25]
asciilifeform: folx who never pulsedialed -- likely not [20:25]
mircea_popescu: comes, originally, when this newfanged tech was new and needed a name, from a different item that was common curriculum and meanwhile disappeared [20:25]
mircea_popescu: the SUNDIAL. [20:25]
asciilifeform: sundial still lives, wat [20:26]
mircea_popescu: where ? [20:26]
asciilifeform: there's one not far from asciilifeform [20:26]
mircea_popescu: see if anyone can read it. [20:26]
* mircea_popescu lived this recently, very elegant vertical 1920s style item, on wall. "what interesting art" "it's a fucking sundial" "a what ?!" [20:26]
asciilifeform: next mircea_popescu will say that modern anglo kidz dun laugh at the wrist-sundials in 'flintstone' cartoon. [20:27]
mircea_popescu: (phone was new and needed name... in the 80s. the other 80s.) [20:27]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i say. [20:27]
asciilifeform: nuts. [20:27]
asciilifeform: but indeed goes back to subj of thread, asciilifeform is stuck with 1880s state of the art, i.e. plugboard, for switching console b/w boxen, in a room where there is simply nomoar wall to hang moar lcd onto. [20:30]
asciilifeform: ( why not over ip ? well for starters not all of the boxes have nics. or run an os that knows what is a nic ! ) [20:31]
mircea_popescu: you know back in the day she worked for the usaf, chet had a buncha crap systems that had to interop, ended up plugging them all on a hunk of wood to switch manually ? [20:50]
asciilifeform: i can picture. [20:50]
mircea_popescu: there's nothing more perennial than 1880s tech, in the 1960s as in the 2010 [20:50]
mircea_popescu: back then everything came with its own apple-style keyboard etc, nothing fucking worked. subtly. [20:50]
asciilifeform: i suppose the only thing remaining after 1880s plugboard is the final rock bottom : [20:51]
a111: Logged on 2014-04-25 20:09 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: did you ever encounter the tale of 'подвиг радиста' as schoolboy? [20:51]
asciilifeform: ( ) [20:52]
a111: Logged on 2014-04-25 20:09 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: [20:52]
mircea_popescu: heh. [20:52]
mircea_popescu: !#s ecaterina teodoroiu [20:52]
a111: 0 results for "ecaterina teodoroiu", [20:52]
mircea_popescu: ^ ww1 machinegunner woman. [20:53]
asciilifeform: ( and i gotta disagree re 'nothing fucking worked, subtly' -- things fucking didn'twork ~honestly~ and in plain daylight. it's today that they dysfunction subtly.) [20:53]
mircea_popescu: to hear the woman retell it, it was more a case of ww2 russian materiel, "we made a buncha duds so now we're gonna call this a new standard rather than throw them out" [20:54]
asciilifeform: << notbad.jpg [20:55]
mircea_popescu: i thought youy'd like! [20:56]
* asciilifeform likes. [20:56]
asciilifeform: 'Inainte baieti, nu va lasati, sunteti cu mine! Inainte! Razbunati-ma!' [20:57]
mircea_popescu: dja know how despicable faggots of the interwar (such as, eminently, bedwetter blair) were "indignant" at "the cruel and violent sport of boxing" especially because "of how it makes a minority of women behave" ? [20:58]
mircea_popescu: fucking scum of all time, those are the only women anyone even wants! [20:59]
asciilifeform: afaik just him, i know of no other source for the item [20:59]
mircea_popescu: "not when anyone's three year old" "yes, well." [20:59]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i heard it pluriously, much like the whole "if men just went out to rape and pillage there'd be ANARCHY!!!1" [20:59]
mircea_popescu: "and other bad things!!! all the bad things!!!" [20:59]
mircea_popescu: or the exact equivalent, "if there were no state THE WORLD WOULD END!1111" [21:00]
mircea_popescu: it's this diffuse mula-dom. [21:00]
asciilifeform: i suspect some mentally weak folx have problems with abstraction. i.e. ~his~ 'world will end' and thereby somehow 'world will end' [21:01]
mircea_popescu: you don't say. [21:01]
mircea_popescu: arabs believed "if one doesn't believe in god, no matter which as long as one" world also ends. looked at me as you'd look at something thart crawled out of black hole. [21:02]
mircea_popescu: "BUT IT IS NOT POSSIBLE!! I USED THE JUICE!!!" [21:02]
asciilifeform: similar reaction if you invite an american d00d into a house with no tv set [21:03]
asciilifeform: 'but where is it!' [21:03]
mircea_popescu: for srs. [21:03]
mircea_popescu: anyway, i suppose this is the proper definition of divinity. [21:03]
mircea_popescu: "spurious item which the superficial mind regards as the universal underpinning of existence" [21:03]
mircea_popescu: usian can not comprehend existence unless tv explains it to him ("how does the news relate to me?!?!"), arab hasta have the allah basis, socialist needs the state to, conceptually, assuage his existential anxieties and so following. [21:04]
* asciilifeform suspects that sufficiently advanced cases of 'homo americanus' don't actually require existence to have, in their heads, an underpinning at all. but asciilifeform has not sufficient entomological field experience, to say if this is a thing yet. [21:05]
mircea_popescu: je n'ai pas eu besoin de cette hypothese a lot more radical than originally thought. [21:05]
asciilifeform: wai wasn't that herr newton [21:06]
asciilifeform: or did it happen that he actually said it in fr [21:07]
mircea_popescu: laplace. [21:07]
asciilifeform: that'd explain. [21:08]
mircea_popescu: amusingly, he was "french newton" [21:08]
asciilifeform: sorta. [21:08]
asciilifeform: meanwhile in the idjit pit, [21:20]
mircea_popescu: you're too hard on the general public. [21:22]
asciilifeform: see also [21:23]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-20 19:29 mircea_popescu: << you'd be fucking surprised how often this is the case. "hello sir, this is bank, it just doesn't do any banking, problem ?" [21:23]
asciilifeform: 'we're all out of prime rib, but wouldntcha like some maggot by the pound ? we have all the maggots you could use!' [21:24]
asciilifeform: 'how is it not the same thing!' [21:24]
mircea_popescu: heh. [21:25]
* BingoBoingo counting down the days left of winter [21:57]
asciilifeform: for BingoBoingo not so much left of this winter! [22:07]
BingoBoingo: Aha [22:07]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Do you have a coup flying day set yet? [22:08]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: nope. [22:08]
BingoBoingo: Still worried about .ro language write head, or ? [22:09]
asciilifeform: it, and that ticker need to go some moar up. [22:10]
* BingoBoingo forgets alf has to care/feed/bed the pet [22:12]
asciilifeform: pet is by far the easiest part. [22:13]
asciilifeform: pet is a second pair of hands and in fact eats not so much. [22:13]
mircea_popescu: in other news, "come play with me" (1977) is such a confusing piece of nonsense... [22:49]
mircea_popescu: meanwhhile in healthy youth, [23:04]
BingoBoingo: [23:14]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: wassat 4u box thing in the back..? [23:14]
mircea_popescu: KVM!!!1 [23:18]
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