Forum logs for 26 Nov 2016

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
pete_dushenski: http://archive.is/tP1zA << "Overall, people with strong technology skills make up a 5–8% sliver of their country’s population, whatever rich country they may be coming from" where top level is able to complete a task such as “You want to know what percentage of the emails sent by John Smith last month were about sustainability.” [00:05]
asciilifeform: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-25-nov-2016#2199366 << what is pete_dushenski studying? [00:33]
a111: Logged on 2016-11-26 04:30 pete_dushenski: for skool ofc! lab instructor recommended that students not even bother with *nix and just succumb to windows for last two assignments. err no thx. i'd rather just guess what my code is doing and risk failing for lack of test grounds. [00:33]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-26#1573428 << asciilifeform once had a similar one [00:34]
a111: Logged on 2016-11-26 04:40 pete_dushenski: in still other assignments, just picked up a '09 subaru outback today as a company car to replace '02 lexus is300. parties interested in the shortcomings or highlights of either are welcome to inquire within. if there's sufficient interest, a blog post is also on the table. [00:34]
asciilifeform: alternator failed in traffic [00:34]
asciilifeform: otherwise great machine [00:35]
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: course is labeled 'introduction to computing science' but is lulzily little more than 'introduction to computing science as it relates to python' [00:40]
asciilifeform: wai is there a computer involved [00:41]
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski oughta ask for his money back [00:42]
pete_dushenski: what's your definition of computer ? cray ? [00:44]
pete_dushenski: in this case, yes, refund required [00:44]
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: 'computer science' is taught with chalk [00:48]
pete_dushenski: and 1970s hair ofc. [00:52]
* pete_dushenski undoes manbun, unfurls jewfro in preparation. [00:53]
mircea_popescu: !~later tell diana_coman what was hitler's favourite vegetable ? [01:42]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded. [01:42]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/adnotated-weird/ << Trilema - Adnotated weird [01:56]
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, ? I have no idea on the topic [03:05]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/890C2C8C6B66569BD9F6AF95FB2FA94B64B7991CB151ED0BA42E9FD6821AC909 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1793...3067 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '217.171.20.14 (ssh-rsa key from 217.171.20.14 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (articque.creaweb.fr. FR) [07:57]
mircea_popescu: diana_coman arde-i iute. [08:02]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/9FCFE4500014205F1296AA168FEA556A1CC5EF8A61E6FF324330A2D804784156 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1550...2677 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '41.204.196.156 (ssh-rsa key from 41.204.196.156 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (Unknown ZA) [08:06]
shinohai: !~display 41.204.196.156 [08:07]
jhvh1: shinohai: {'city': 'Somerset West', 'region_name': '11', 'longitude': 18.849999999999994, 'country_code3': 'ZAF', 'latitude': -34.08330000000001, 'postal_code': None, 'country_code': 'ZA', 'country_name': 'South Africa'} [08:07]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2016/an-immodest-proposal/ << Trilema - An immodest proposal [09:32]
mircea_popescu: that sad sad day when you discover bugs in financial documentation. http://www.oxfordfutures.com/docs/Handsignals.pdf << page 4 bottom figure, they printed it backwards. 500 is on left 700 on right. [09:46]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/890C2C8C6B66569BD9F6AF95FB2FA94B64B7991CB151ED0BA42E9FD6821AC909 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1457...8987 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '217.171.20.14 (ssh-rsa key from 217.171.20.14 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (articque.creaweb.fr. FR) [10:12]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/9FCFE4500014205F1296AA168FEA556A1CC5EF8A61E6FF324330A2D804784156 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1406...4027 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '41.204.196.156 (ssh-rsa key from 41.204.196.156 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (Unknown ZA) [10:12]
mircea_popescu: and in other haberdasherial diversity, http://new3.fjcdn.com/comments/Benedicto+rolled+a+random+image+posted+in+comment+160+at+_f240d6069365bc5b2e0a272d69e52a10.jpg [10:37]
mircea_popescu: oh, fidel castro finally kicked it. [10:47]
shinohai: Isn't there a decrufted version of gpg floating around on deedbot somewhere? apt wants to install this gpg2 garbage despite my best efforts [10:49]
mircea_popescu: i dunno that there is. you should prolly be able to install 1.x branch manually, autoinstalls are shitty like that. [10:51]
mircea_popescu: anyway, if anyone's keeping track, the "kow towing" must've not went all too well, because "the editorial board" of the nyt decided for the you know, "independents", "liberals" and the rest of the us red army that the correct approach is to try and impeach trump through the emoluments clause, sometime in 2018ish. [11:03]
mircea_popescu: which altogether should be fun to watch. [11:03]
mircea_popescu: (for the record, that's james bennet, terry tang, robert semple jr, linda cohn, vikas bajaj, francis x clines, lawrence downes, carol giacomo, mira kamdar, ernesto londono, anna north, serge schmemann, brent staples, teresa tritch, jesse wegman and elizabeth williamson.) [11:05]
mircea_popescu: most of which are on twitter, where they're uniquely unpopular, come to think of it. [11:07]
mircea_popescu: oh, and the indian plan to fuck up the circulating cash failed and will probably be the end of modi and his idiotic party. [11:22]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/EA922C4231F27162C0AAEFE533A7543F56F959104E31050E35589D2F75920A4D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1387...8623 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '198.100.150.245 (ssh-rsa key from 198.100.150.245 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (mail.enov.ca. CA QC) [11:24]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-26#1573466 << there is! posted by no less than mircea_popescu ! [11:26]
a111: Logged on 2016-11-26 15:51 mircea_popescu: i dunno that there is. you should prolly be able to install 1.x branch manually, autoinstalls are shitty like that. [11:26]
mircea_popescu: ah, i did post one didn't i. [11:26]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-18#1523719 [11:27]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-18 01:42 asciilifeform: first, you will need mircea_popescu's gnupg-1.4.10.tar.gz. [11:27]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-10-16#1300489 << [11:27]
a111: Logged on 2015-10-16 13:35 assbot: Logged on 10-10-2015 12:08:05 mircea_popescu: deedbot- http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/gnupg-1.4.10.tar.gz.asc [11:27]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-10-31#1312579 << see also phunphakt [11:28]
a111: Logged on 2015-10-31 15:07 asciilifeform: later tell mircea_popescu didja know that it is impossible to produce a v-genesis for gnupg-1.4.10 ? it contains unprintable turds, yes ! e.g., the idiot 'localizators', po/*.gmo [11:28]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-26#1573465 << there is inly a decrufted mpi (bignum) from it, it is on my www [11:29]
a111: Logged on 2016-11-26 15:49 shinohai: Isn't there a decrufted version of gpg floating around on deedbot somewhere? apt wants to install this gpg2 garbage despite my best efforts [11:29]
asciilifeform: *only a [11:29]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-10-10#1295983 and http://deedbot.org/deed-378272-1.txt [11:30]
a111: Logged on 2015-10-10 12:08 mircea_popescu: deedbot- http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/gnupg-1.4.10.tar.gz.asc [11:30]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's absolutely no way that crap should make it in a v root anyway. [11:31]
asciilifeform: koch's shitball per se is written in such a way that the cruft is glued on with broken glass (all the ciphers are modularized in very gnarly multilayered way, whole thing relies through and through on his weirdo streams thing, 1,001 idiocies) [11:31]
mircea_popescu: hey, a clean rsa implementation is very much needed. [11:31]
mircea_popescu: "oh we can't use cs, no cs implementation exists" "orly ? guess what - no rsa implementation exists either!" [11:32]
asciilifeform: btw rsa only needs 1 op, modular exp [11:32]
asciilifeform: it is ~key generation~ that needs rest of bignum [11:32]
shinohai: Thanks asciilifeform ! [11:34]
asciilifeform: shinohai: keep in mind, 1.4.10 has the prng crud [11:34]
asciilifeform: and also lacks the radio noise reduction patch [11:35]
mircea_popescu: you are advised to generate the keys yourself. [11:35]
asciilifeform: well no shit 'generate yourself' but ~with what~ [11:36]
mircea_popescu: myeah. [11:36]
trinque: with the RNG asciilifeform is going to sell me [11:36]
asciilifeform: i will point out, at no point afaik has anyone fucked up modexp. it is keygen that is the gnarly and diddled part [11:37]
* mircea_popescu goes digging for that rsa key spec... [11:38]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-18#1524210 [11:41]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-18 12:32 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform since we're on this btw, the way i want tmsr-rsa key generation to work is as follows : a contains a number of entropy bytes specified by user in tmsr-rsa.conf read whenever tmsr-rsa.conf specifies (such as urandom) b contains a base-tmsr string specified by user. c = base-tmsr(a).b p = nextprime(cut(sha512(c),257)) process is repeated for q = nextprime (cut(sha512(c'),258)) [11:41]
asciilifeform: we had thread [11:42]
mircea_popescu: aha. [11:42]
asciilifeform: i dun like including hashes in keygen. they create bit-sequential correlation [11:42]
mircea_popescu: yeah, it probably should be restated. the important point is the fixed bitsize. [11:42]
asciilifeform: notice the several ways koch fucked it [11:43]
mircea_popescu: yes. that noticing is what led to that discussion. [11:43]
asciilifeform: ('set 2 upper...') [11:43]
asciilifeform: ah yes [11:43]
mircea_popescu: and in other lulz : the opposite of the dependopotamus exists. http://www.thenaturalmommy.com/wives-of-perpetual-students/ [11:53]
mircea_popescu: they call themselves wops. [11:53]
mircea_popescu: "We have televisions in our house, we just stopped paying for the service around 2006. Was it a coincidence that we soured on television viewing in the same months we had just finished filming our own debut on HGTV? Probably not, if you've read my explanations of the aftermath. Being on "reality TV" after an intense week of acting made my favorite shows lose the glitz I'd viewed them with. But that wasn't the only reason. [12:02]
mircea_popescu: Really, the big one was money. When $50 a month is critical to survival you know it ain't the time for that. So we got through our 10 years of law school, money pit foreclosure...and finally on the other side debt eliminated, lifestyle downsized, we are ready to jump in again." << probably the best in the lot. "reality tv stars" / 10 years of lawschool can't afford 50 bux. AMERICA! and do you know what comes right after ? [12:02]
mircea_popescu: "Well, not ready...we are already in. We got satellite service last week. The technology is grand. DVR's recording up to 5 things at once! Turning it on to find a list of your favorite shows you can binge on in order!" [12:02]
mircea_popescu: that's it. [12:02]
phf: "what would you do if you had a million dollars? -- i'll tell you what I'd do, man: two chicks at the same time, man." [13:31]
mircea_popescu: heh [14:00]
mircea_popescu: and in other news, a... bar. http://68.media.tumblr.com/95befa3bb9c2e4fac4f3dfb4a94b23e6/tumblr_mrxj9415lX1sfcru6o1_1280.jpg [14:16]
trinque: phf: is there a way to link to the list of trb patches signed by a given key? [14:46]
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-21#1571802 << [14:47]
a111: Logged on 2016-11-21 06:24 mircea_popescu: and to phf's v viewer, idem ? [14:47]
trinque: actually not just trb, all seals would be nice. [14:48]
trinque: iirc you threw my botstuff up there too [14:48]
hanbot: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-26#1573450 << i demand a punchline! [15:32]
a111: Logged on 2016-11-26 06:42 mircea_popescu: !~later tell diana_coman what was hitler's favourite vegetable ? [15:32]
mircea_popescu: it's later on / [15:32]
mircea_popescu: mah punchline / [15:32]
hanbot: oh oh. hot peppers? [15:33]
mircea_popescu: :p [15:33]
diana_coman: heh, yeah, arde-i iute [15:36]
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2016/11/26/we-know-who-steve-bannon-is-but-who-was-thomas-cromwell/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - We know who Steve Bannon is… but who was Thomas Cromwell? [16:26]
mircea_popescu: !!up MDude [17:20]
deedbot: MDude voiced for 30 minutes. [17:20]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the slut party, http://68.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lard124fV41qzw9y2o1_1280.jpg [17:20]
asciilifeform: in other noose, 'Last block: 3 days 10 hours ago (Block 440210)' << bitbet.us [18:06]
shinohai: !~blocks [18:11]
jhvh1: shinohai: 440733 [18:11]
shinohai: lel [18:11]
phf: (btcbase temporary hosed, i messed something up in routing) [18:48]
phf: (... and back) [19:00]
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-26#1573521 << something like http://btcbase.org/patches-by/trinque [19:02]
a111: Logged on 2016-11-26 19:46 trinque: phf: is there a way to link to the list of trb patches signed by a given key? [19:02]
phf: i can also do it by an fp, but recent conversation about fp vs nick vs "key" [19:03]
mircea_popescu: the nick/fp/key equivalency holds so far. [19:14]
mircea_popescu: in principle can index by any of the three for new software / maintain current association for extant software, and be ready to migrate when we finally have a proper gns [19:14]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-26#1573515 << dafuq was this ..? [19:50]
a111: Logged on 2016-11-26 17:02 mircea_popescu: Really, the big one was money. When $50 a month is critical to survival you know it ain't the time for that. So we got through our 10 years of law school, money pit foreclosure...and finally on the other side debt eliminated, lifestyle downsized, we are ready to jump in again." << probably the best in the lot. "reality tv stars" / 10 years of lawschool can't afford 50 bux. AMERICA! and do you know what comes right after ? [19:50]
mircea_popescu: wop. [19:50]
asciilifeform: 50 'critical' where, namibia? [19:51]
mircea_popescu: us. [19:51]
mircea_popescu: o this is rich [19:51]
mircea_popescu: http://archive.is/jyVHr << isis "drone factory" [19:51]
asciilifeform: lul!!! model mig25! [19:52]
mircea_popescu: "shells that were artificially created" takes the cake. it's not just that putin doesn't understand how the world works - it's that the one true socialism is the only NATURAL producer of artefacts [19:52]
asciilifeform: with the split tail [19:52]
asciilifeform: eh hey hey everybuddy knows that good people use natural shells [19:53]
asciilifeform: lemons from the лимонка tree [19:53]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/605502ADB70925912ECED45B4169DCB9B0DA61D3F35BE854E4B1A9DB33452417 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 2472...8789 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '85.214.105.111 (ssh-rsa key from 85.214.105.111 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (sws-musicshop.de. DE BE) [20:01]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/3FAAFDDED69985F8A3F10AF245A66C20DA44C4897A876C7701AB4404AABA2204 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 2526...9689 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '109.226.173.67 (ssh-rsa key from 109.226.173.67 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (Unknown DE BB) [20:01]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/EA922C4231F27162C0AAEFE533A7543F56F959104E31050E35589D2F75920A4D << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 2112...6339 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '198.100.150.245 (ssh-rsa key from 198.100.150.245 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (mail.enov.ca. CA QC) [20:01]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all [22:53]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 724.89, vol: 2725.35540014 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 730.0, vol: 2864.32864 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 726.82, vol: 4273.31117835 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 740.36646, vol: 1004548.39860000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 729.806, vol: 783.52671057 | Volume-weighted last average: 740.230491586 [22:53]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/3FAAFDDED69985F8A3F10AF245A66C20DA44C4897A876C7701AB4404AABA2204 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1579...8723 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '109.226.173.67 (ssh-rsa key from 109.226.173.67 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (Unknown DE BB) [23:22]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A2BC32C93E2CCD68BD6B50936177E24EFB482DB894713D1D9193F41CEA2AB7B1 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1178...9039 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '93.174.104.41 (ssh-rsa key from 93.174.104.41 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (services.euclides.nl. NL) [23:22]
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/605502ADB70925912ECED45B4169DCB9B0DA61D3F35BE854E4B1A9DB33452417 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1487...5317 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '85.214.105.111 (ssh-rsa key from 85.214.105.111 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt> ' (sws-musicshop.de. DE BE) [23:22]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2016/11/not-quite-news-roundup-xtend-sex-teens-edition-tmr-fake-news-becomes-meme/ << Qntra - Not Quite News Roundup Xtend Sex Teens Edition (TM)(R) – Fake News Becomes Meme [23:25]
BingoBoingo: ^ A bit meater because sorta stuff happened but didn't really hit the father of Kim K's children test for getting own headlines [23:27]
BingoBoingo: !~bcstats [23:38]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 440771 | Current Difficulty: 2.818009171931958E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 441503 | Next Difficulty In: 732 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 15 hours, 53 minutes, and 53 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [23:38]
mircea_popescu: lol "green party" gets 3x more money to "recount" than it got to campaign ? aww. [23:54]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo "Fearing that rednecks could beat then up if they take the fight to them" << moar clarity of prose is needed yo! [23:59]
mircea_popescu: i mean srsly, avoid them repetition by respelling them as then ? [23:59]
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