Forum logs for 22 Aug 2018

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
mircea_popescu: << two years ago exactly! [00:56]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-20 14:38 mircea_popescu: here's a nice eulora knapsack problem for anyone looking to sharpen their ACTUAL computer science skills : [00:56]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in orcistans, [01:21]
Mocky: oh hey, i didn't have the context for that knapsack challenge when I read it in the logs, had no idea what it meant. meanwhile forgot all about it [01:33]
mircea_popescu: lol. kinda how it goes. [01:36]
Mocky: ftr my algo does it in 40 steps preserving full value of 1,639,142: [01:48]
a111: Logged on 2016-08-20 14:39 mircea_popescu: i have eight sets of "sb" (solid branch) : 503 q 222 1466 q 3 973 q 207 983 q 252 1651 q 258 2963 q 189 563 q 22 and 336 q 225. the first number is the count, the second the quality (depends on your mining, whatever) you can mix these, the game will floor the average quality. this means you can lose matter through mixing, so you want to mix stacks so as to obtain the highest possible quality final. [01:48]
mircea_popescu: Mocky sounds right. [01:53]
asciilifeform: << meanwhile, in heathendom. [10:04]
asciilifeform: ^ tldr, mexican d00d ran small btc-fiatola house dragged into usa for gassing. [10:06]
mircea_popescu: sucks to be a zek, huh. [10:20]
mircea_popescu: anyway, dood didn't get dragged anywhere, he kept crossing teh border. [10:21]
mircea_popescu: i guess they're getting pretty desperate, if they're throwing randos in jail in lieu of making good on their usg.bitfinex takeover obligations. [10:22]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fwiw they always Officially print 'when crossing the border' (recall the ru d00d kidnapped 'in spain' etc.) it's the new 'shot while escape'. [10:23]
mircea_popescu: simple heuristic : what starts as a scam moves on to "agenture" and then finally on to the inca resting place. [10:23]
mircea_popescu: it's the cycle of ourdemocracy scamolade. [10:23]
asciilifeform: i'm not convinced that the mexican was zek ( well, until picked up and enzekked ) [10:24]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that may be, but what of 11 In furtherance of this conspiracy and to effect the objects thereof, the following overt acts, among others, were committed: 1. On or about February 8, 2017, at approximately 12:10 a.m., defendant JACOB BURRELL CAMPOS entered the United States from Mexico in possession of $9, 500 in U.S. currency. 2. On or about February 8, 2017, at approximately 10:29 p.m., defendant JACOB BURRELL CA [10:25]
mircea_popescu: MPOS entered the United States from Mexico in possession of $9, 580 in U.S. currency. 3 . On ,or about February 9, 2017, at approximately 8: 17 p. m., defendant JACOB BURRELL CAMPOS entered the United States from Mexico in possession of $9, 746 in U.S. currency. 4. On or about February 10, 2017, at approximately 11:52 p.m., defendant JACOB BURRELL CAMPOS entered the United States from Mexico in [10:25]
mircea_popescu: 24 possession of $9, 580 in U.S. currency. ? [10:25]
mircea_popescu: specifically, how do they know ~the dollar amount~ ? [10:25]
mircea_popescu: here's a possible theory : this dood went over the border twice to who knows, five times a day for months and fucking months, and they counted his money in front of him every time [10:25]
mircea_popescu: eventually had enough of counting. [10:25]
asciilifeform: where's the difficulty in producing an arbitrary 'mr chump went into usa with bag of $ x' for any desired value of x [10:26]
mircea_popescu: so you think that's not factual ? [10:26]
asciilifeform: aha [10:26]
mircea_popescu: and they falsified the records, or do the records not even exist ? [10:26]
asciilifeform: fwiw i read usg indictments as works of fiction, not particularly different from e.g. trial of lavrentiy pavlovich beria, 'british, french, and japanese spy' [10:27]
mircea_popescu: the only question is, why isn't mr campos here saying this ? [10:27]
asciilifeform: they may have occasional droplet of fact, or may not [10:27]
mircea_popescu: i only read usg productions as literary fiction when it involves standing members otherwise it's liars playing liar. why would i trust CAMPOS more than the system he and his friends created ? or less, for that matter. [10:28]
mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as "the innocent zek". inca exists because the zeks exist. [10:28]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: perhaps he dun have a tcp pipe in the cokemachine chair. [10:28]
mircea_popescu: or perhaps he's exactly a shitheel. [10:28]
asciilifeform: impossible to say, from my telescope. [10:28]
mircea_popescu: not so impossible, from mine -- if CAMPOS were worth the cost of a decent burial, !!key CAMPOS would work. [10:29]
asciilifeform: i'll buy a 'he oughta have appeared here ~before~ strapped in the chair'. [10:29]
mircea_popescu: nulla salus extra republica. [10:29]
mircea_popescu: << check it out, argentine retards squatting the words. [10:31]
asciilifeform: lol! [10:31]
asciilifeform: in other heathen lulz, << 2017-style shitfork , rebranded as a kind of faux-trb, 'Satoshi Vision' of... 'block size to 128 MB' [10:34]
asciilifeform: complete with '5 C++ developers with over 95 collective years of development experience' etc. [10:35]
asciilifeform: << possibly i'm thick, but i read mircea_popescu's puzzle statement and dun grasp how this is possible, for the value to be conserved, if every mix operation rounds down to nearest whole [12:49]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-22 05:48 Mocky: ftr my algo does it in 40 steps preserving full value of 1,639,142: [12:49]
asciilifeform: oh hm nm i get it [12:53]
deedbot: << Qntra - Microsoft Announces Campaign Against Threats To Their Democracy [13:59]
BingoBoingo: So there is a local holiday called "Dia de nostalgia" where the locals listen to old pop music. The Peruana is rather insistent that the holiday is today. Thusly she took me for a walk, is cooking soup, and is cleaning Casa Boingo. I am under the impression the holiday is later this week, as the busdrivers and kiosk operators appear to be as well. [14:31]
BingoBoingo: But I am getting soup and a free sweep out of the deal. [14:32]
mod6: Hard to complain about that :D [14:37]
mircea_popescu: << it seems that nguyen nobody's been trying to attention whore around the matter for years. [16:29]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-22 14:34 asciilifeform: in other heathen lulz, << 2017-style shitfork , rebranded as a kind of faux-trb, 'Satoshi Vision' of... 'block size to 128 MB' [16:29]
mircea_popescu: can't imagine who'd give an inkling of a shit, besides the republic's incredibly advanced entomology dept. [16:30]
asciilifeform: i dun recall the name popping up prior [16:37]
asciilifeform: but possibly i'm not sufficiently dedicated entomologist [16:37]
asciilifeform: ( on top of this, quite possibly there are moar nguyens in vietnam than popescus in ro ) [16:39]
mircea_popescu: in a very abstract sense. [16:40]
asciilifeform: howsthat? [16:41]
mircea_popescu: cuz they seem the same one. [16:41]
asciilifeform: the peasant ivanovs in ru, popescus left in ro, smiths in england -- not same ? [16:43]
mircea_popescu: same. [16:45]
asciilifeform: the closer to the period , the moar acute this problem, i suspect, and so when we will have seen 10 shitcoin scammers from the humid shitholistans, 7 will have been nguyen. [16:48]
asciilifeform: '...there exists exactly one Nicola in the entire villagevi, and the only smaller kid at the age of rumspringa is Daniel, so you've got them...' etc [16:49]
mircea_popescu: possibru! [16:51]
asciilifeform: at a certain point, the entomologists who still insists on distinguishing individual specimens will be stuck trying to catch'em and put numbered collars on, like on giraffes in africa, or how else to distinguish the indistinguishable.. [16:51]
mircea_popescu: mark of teh beast!!1 [16:53]
asciilifeform: i always liked that legend. tho i suspect that i read it somewhat differently from the ameri-christians. [16:54]
asciilifeform: 'and in the shit future, the biomass will become so nguyen that will have to be branded with hot irons on forehead' [16:55]
* trinque heard a tard say exactly "mark of the beast would be so convenient I wouldn't have to worry about losing my credit card" just the other day [16:56]
asciilifeform: lol!! [16:56]
trinque: the derps long for the goo tube [16:56]
asciilifeform: 'just want' [16:57]
asciilifeform: trinque: witness just how much of the homo redditus psychopathologies cluster really reduces to doomed , head-against-wall attempts at becoming individuable [17:02]
trinque: makes one think that there's perhaps an earlier fixation than "anal", coming from the first inconvenience, the shhhlonk out of mother and into the hard light [17:02]
trinque: asciilifeform: "mother knew me, and only me" or whatever [17:03]
asciilifeform: if they stuck to the ~60-strong village -- could even scratch that itch. but as it is nao, no dice. [17:03]
mircea_popescu: well, there's subreddits... [17:07]
asciilifeform: lol [17:07]
asciilifeform: 'hey, you read /r/nguyen!' 'mee tooo!' [17:07]
mircea_popescu: seems there's the two strategies - either a very low bar of individuation, as employed on 4chan's "anon" bla bla -- they're not anonymous, it's just the identity attaqinable is very simple [17:08]
mircea_popescu: or else the very narrow groupuscle thing, like moronskutsy what's his name, making "challenges" for his troop of five people AND THEM ONLY. [17:08]
asciilifeform: i suspect the latter is simply adult-neotenous variant of that pasttime of just about erry intelligent little boy, to take group of playmates and 'put them in regiment', march'em around with wooden muskets [17:10]
asciilifeform: it's healthy in 5yo kid ( imho, and possibly asciilifeform is not unbiased, he did it... ) but there are folx who dun grow anything on top of it.. [17:12]
mircea_popescu: very important that the group be small though, and stay small. must regard aliens suspiciously. [17:12]
mircea_popescu: really, it's the core of peasant culture. [17:12]
mircea_popescu: ontogenesis repeats philogenesis or how it went. [17:13]
asciilifeform: verily. [17:14]
mircea_popescu: anyway, but while discussing "new man" psychopathologies --- consider the dood who stole a plane to do barrel rolls on the basis of his video game experience. [17:15]
asciilifeform: i can think of many less entertaining methods of cashing in one's chips [17:16]
mircea_popescu: they call it "terrorism" and whatever, but all i can see is wediditredditardism. dood doesn't even conceptualize property in any sense above diego rivera's "it's the people's wall!". [17:16]
mircea_popescu: kid was bored at work, who may tell him he's not allowed ~the use~ of ~reddit's airplane~ to ~do some cool shit~ for a break ? [17:16]
mircea_popescu: it's how they do it! it's how it's done! wut do these old ppl want even! [17:17]
asciilifeform: dunno, erry week the local cops here pick up a car thief, who took for joyride, i dun think it is because 'did not understand property' [17:17]
mircea_popescu: the elements a) he was there and b) was bored and c) item was also there and so d) he did something with it. monkey implemented in human genome, what. [17:17]
mircea_popescu: simpler. [17:17]
asciilifeform: problem is that this describes errybody from kurchatov to pickpocket. pretty much all human activity, really. [17:18]
asciilifeform: certainly ~all constructive activity. [17:18]
mircea_popescu: how are the kids who "could do anything" and whose "education" cost literal millions [in bezzlars, but what else is there ?!?!] conceptualize that "no, fuckfaced, you're NOT GOOD ENOUGH for this usage of this item" ? [17:18]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yet kurchatov generally understands that my women are off limits for his inferior limpdick. [17:19]
asciilifeform: lol, feynman didn't [17:19]
mircea_popescu: tell me this -- ever wondered why premature ejaculation is metastable in the population ? [17:19]
mircea_popescu: it should be selected against, and then disappear, right ? [17:19]
asciilifeform: ( perhaps stretching the analogy, but possibly makes sense ? ) [17:19]
mircea_popescu: except -- there's two mating strategies. there's the beta strategy where it tries to stick it in her while her back is turned ot the side and the owner is distracted. that'd better be quick. [17:20]
mircea_popescu: premature ejaculation is meta-stable because it is actually the key tool to the mating strategy of the beta. [17:20]
asciilifeform: hm the 'knights and knaves' trilema or where was it [17:20]
mircea_popescu: if you read the "social media", 100% the approach of the dweebs would be "i won't take up much of your time, anything" [17:20]
mircea_popescu: there's the man, who tells the woman, "it'll hurt" and then there's the boy, who tells the girl... "it won't hurt" [17:21]
asciilifeform: 'sir can you spare a dime' -- erry beggar who ever lived . neh [17:21]
mircea_popescu: quite. but begging for "just turn your ass this way while talking to him" is ye oldest beggary. [17:21]
asciilifeform: upstack, i dun buy 'thief doesn't understand property'. chingishan understood property. just unzipped and pissed. [17:22]
mircea_popescu: i disagree. [17:22]
asciilifeform: not erry pickpocket, naturally, rises to leading golden horde. but basic principle same. [17:22]
asciilifeform: the man who pulls a great heist, is pissing on his assigned cattle stall and makes break for it. normally gets nowhere, but this is orthogonal. [17:25]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in random lulz, "I find it hard to believe that I could sit next to you on the bus let alone serve you". [17:25]
a111: Logged on 2015-01-21 01:37 mircea_popescu: very common problem people have on the internet, the "everyone is as stupid as me / everyone's a goat the same gender and age as me" issue. [17:25]
mircea_popescu: fancy that wonder, we were going to take the bus. what, not everyone does ?!?!?!?! [17:25]
mircea_popescu: i wonder how such invalidates one's opinions on things and matters...\ [17:25]
asciilifeform: in some places ( e.g. east usa ) it is rare to see a fella who owns >1 shirt, on a bus [17:27]
mircea_popescu: i expect most of the 20something crowd is socialized in the fenceless suburbia and lulzy-ass campus. [17:28]
asciilifeform: if mircea_popescu were to go on the bus here, he will likely be the only white face on board [17:28]
mircea_popescu: so they have odd, to put it mildly, ideas. about personal space, about power and control, about proper behaviour, etcetera. [17:28]
asciilifeform: i can't resist to ask, if mircea_popescu will say, what he was doing on the bus. what, all 63 porches were in the shop ? [17:30]
mircea_popescu: it was entirely her metaphore. [17:30]
asciilifeform: aa [17:30]
mircea_popescu: i expect she does a lot of bussing.\ [17:30]
asciilifeform: aaa! [17:30]
asciilifeform: i misread. [17:30]
mircea_popescu: most of the bussing i ever did was via greyhound trip in mid 2000s, and deliberately for to meet various such people as use the bus in the us. [17:31]
mircea_popescu: otherwise... i didn't even go by bus as a jr high kid, wtf is this. [17:31]
asciilifeform: also great for deepcover aha [17:31]
mircea_popescu: and for keeping one's insanity in check, and for many things. [17:32]
asciilifeform: 'the man who kills you comes on bus, not on parachute' or how did it go. [17:32]
mircea_popescu: permits one to comment, upon that scene in film "road trip", that "no black mamie ever gave a white chick looking like amy smart a vibrator for free. EVER." [17:33]
asciilifeform: upstack re 'steal a boeing', recall the fella ? [17:38]
a111: Logged on 2014-09-07 04:09 asciilifeform: (who? him: [17:38]
mircea_popescu: ya ? [17:38]
asciilifeform: imho he did god's work. [17:39]
asciilifeform: whether politically 'aware' or not. [17:39]
asciilifeform: the janitor with a pail of petrol, is a t-cell, killing off inca cancer, whether knows it or not. [17:39]
asciilifeform: erry d00d who , instead of retreating into 'world of warcraft' and drink, goes out with a bang, is a nail in the inca coffin. [17:40]
asciilifeform: recall solzhenitsin and his 'if erry zak took an axe to nkvd head' lemma. [17:41]
asciilifeform: the moar militantly retarded inca reich becomes , the moar tcells will produce. [17:43]
asciilifeform: there were at least 2 sov mechanics who climbed into migs and took off. [17:44]
mircea_popescu: this seems correct to me. [17:44]
asciilifeform: ( 1980s. wasn't publicized until after the final curtain call, unsurprisingly. ) [17:44]
asciilifeform: or take the sargeant who stole two makarovs and narrowly missed brezhnev's head. etc [17:46]
asciilifeform: ( interesting case, btw, they decided that shooting's too easy for him, put in 'psihushka', reportedly still alive today, as vegetable ) [17:47]
asciilifeform: << subj in eng [17:51]
asciilifeform: 'Andropov: Why did you decide that you are a judge and can decide with a gun in your hands? Ilyin: Because a person should live not exist.' [17:51]
mircea_popescu: hey, not bad. [17:52]
BingoBoingo: Inca should have ate less un popped popcorn if it doesn't want to feel the turdbumps [18:00]
asciilifeform: as for 'property', from my pov the janitor was no more or less 'proprietor' of the boeing, than the recipient of printing press largesse who paper-'owned' it. [18:00]
asciilifeform: 'ownership is power to destroy' or how it went. [18:00]
asciilifeform: as i understand, the morons didn't even have the simple lock on the ignition that a toyota has. [18:02]
mircea_popescu: dude was literally just borrowing his roomate's colander [18:02]
mircea_popescu: and he dun see why that asshole has to make such a big deal out of it [18:02]
mircea_popescu: not like his parents didn't give it to him for free. or the dean did. or htat weird old guy. or someone anyway. [18:02]
mircea_popescu: notrealpeople. it just comes. [18:02]
asciilifeform: and not like the other fella's usg.parents didn't give him the airline for free. [18:03]
mircea_popescu: something like that. "it's ours by right of living here". like the bedsheets in the campus dorm. [18:03]
mircea_popescu: very mirvniki worldview, "land belongs to the cow" [18:03]
asciilifeform: it isn't as if the 'legit owner' is somehow not cow. [18:04]
mircea_popescu:"mirvniki" << 100% tmsr references roflmao. [18:04]
asciilifeform: in 1900 perhaps was not. [18:04]
asciilifeform: today -- cow. [18:04]
asciilifeform: somehow when yellen toggles the printer and steals 9000 boeings , 'not stealing', somehow. [18:05]
asciilifeform: but janitor -- stole [18:05]
mircea_popescu: would you prefer "misuse" ? [18:06]
asciilifeform:"miroyed" interestingly >0 [18:06]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'ma go with the trad 'liberate' !11 [18:06]
mircea_popescu: aok [18:07]
mircea_popescu: except you can't liberate anything if !!key you doesn't work [18:07]
BingoBoingo: Boeing like schoolbus lacks a natural use. Might as well repurpose either as cabin in alaskan woods. [18:07]
asciilifeform: i expect at some point their !!key will work [18:08]
asciilifeform: tho the mechanics of the biology, i suspect, work against it, when d00d 'goes t-cell' he closes in, in rightful mistrust of stoolies and 'helping hands' [18:09]
asciilifeform: ( on rare occasions, the dylan finds a klebold, and they go bang as a duet, but this is uncommon ) [18:10]
asciilifeform: i recall a husband-and-wife set, Officially 'islamic' flavoured, coupla yrs ago [18:12]
asciilifeform: (afaik the only such case on Official record) [18:13]
mircea_popescu: the official record isn't comprehensive for obvious reasons. [18:13]
asciilifeform: recall, the ones where usg confiscated their life insurance post-facto [18:13]
asciilifeform: noshit [18:13]
BingoBoingo: Can't forget the organized retailiation strike in Oklahoma City to avenge Waco and Ruby Ridge [18:14]
BingoBoingo: Back when people talked about the other pants clinton [18:15]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: that particular escapade had smell of provocateurs (who got 'more than bargained for') all over it tho [18:15]
asciilifeform: d00d was to set off a theatric 'bomb', per the script, but showed up with working one [18:15]
asciilifeform: 'new york deathray gone wrong', if you will [18:15]
BingoBoingo: Well, fuel oil and the right fertilizer, and if you search Mcveigh in wikipedo it goes to a disambiguation page listing 2 seperate timothy mcveighs born in the 1960s [18:17]
asciilifeform: usg however did get what it wanted, yes minus one kindergarten , but plus metaldetectors and anal searches errywhere [18:17]
asciilifeform: ( along with 'mandatory reporting' at erry hardware store re 'suspicious' buyers ) [18:17]
asciilifeform: and they immediately built 'forbidden city', ming china style, around white house etc. [18:19]
mircea_popescu: worked so well for the ming, too... [18:20]
asciilifeform: ( 'only a terrorist'(tm) could think to ask, why hero did not drive his truck to white house ) [18:20]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: street around whitehouse is hilarious themepark of lulz, 3 polizei and 1 german shepherd for erry tourist [18:21]
asciilifeform: somehow doesn't keep a hobo from climbing fence and busting in erry year or so, but 'hatefact'. [18:21]
mircea_popescu: always the same one ? [18:22]
asciilifeform: fuckifiknow [18:22]
mircea_popescu: would be lulzy. [18:22]
asciilifeform: that street has very unpleasant atmosphere, i avoid it on the rare occasions when going into town [18:22]
asciilifeform: mountains of rubbish, there , also, the guards aint paid to pick it up [18:23]
mircea_popescu: heh [18:23]
mircea_popescu: just patrol through it, right. [18:23]
asciilifeform: aha [18:23]
mircea_popescu: reminds me of the shitting-down-nuke-tube thing [18:24]
asciilifeform: speaking of which, there was a 'designated' hobo who for 30 yrs sat on the pavement there, unmolested, with picket signs 'end nuke reich' or to that effect [18:24]
asciilifeform: he finally keeled over coupla yr ago [18:24]
asciilifeform: they took and burned his tent and pickets, and arrested the imitators who tried to make new one [18:25]
* asciilifeform bbl,teatime [18:27]
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> mountains of rubbish, there , also, the guards aint paid to pick it up << There are crews going around painting bouys assigned to land duty, I suspect preparations for summer are beginning [18:30]
lobbes: psa: looks like my box that houses the archive-o-matic went offline on Friday. It back up and eating through backlog www should update sometime in the next ~ 2 hours >> [18:45]
lobbes: *It is [18:45]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in useful consumer items, [19:03]
asciilifeform: in similar lulz, 'libXcursor could write one byte out of bounds when processing Xcursor theme files. In certain cases, such as when used in the Firefox web browser, this could be used as part of an exploit chain to allow further attacks on an X client process...' [19:57]
mircea_popescu: awww/ [20:08]
deedbot: << Trilema - The leak... [22:41]
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