Forum logs for 21 Jul 2017

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
deedbot: << Qntra - Trump Issues Ultimatum To GOP Senators: Start Selling! [00:01]
BingoBoingo: So, apparently a lot of Lichs do the coinbase thing and don't keep sole/soul possession of their phylacterys [00:03]
mircea_popescu: awwww [00:05]
mircea_popescu: wikipedia is such a lulz. after the earlier "ddt from an usian perspective" lulz, here's jewish manhood from an old woman's lens : [00:08]
mircea_popescu: If Jewish gangsters still thrived today, if they hadn't gone legit, if Jews of my generation didn't regard them as figments, creatures to be classed with Big Foot and the Loch Ness monster, I think the Jewish community would be better off.[11] ” [00:08]
mircea_popescu: Following Cohen's line of reasoning, one could say that Jewish-American organized crime played a role in the emancipation of the Jewish-American community from the ancient stereotypes. However, Cohen's description of Jewish gangsters ignores their criminality and immorality. These tough characters were still gangsters who extorted, exploited and murdered other members of the Jewish-American community for profit. They forced J [00:08]
mircea_popescu: ewish women into prostitution,[6][page needed] and were generally considered a scourge within their own community. [00:08]
* mircea_popescu is all for an organised effort of "their own community" forced goat prostitution. why exactly is hillary clinton not naked in the barn atm ? [00:09]
mircea_popescu: keep the ewes for meat and the goats for the hilarities. [00:09]
BingoBoingo: You forget the Jewish peculiarity. If you knock up a Jewish woman, even if the baby comes out dark chocolate, it is still 'on their team' jewfro and all. [00:10]
mircea_popescu: so let there be a lot of goat-headed new jews, what. [00:11]
mircea_popescu: how is mccain any better ? [00:11]
BingoBoingo: McCain is not better. McCain apparently gave away the phylactry and is no longer invulerable to the natural immortaility of his oldgender. [00:12]
BingoBoingo: *mortality [00:13]
mircea_popescu: heh [00:13]
BingoBoingo: Shouldn't have trusted phylacterybase.soros [00:13]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally re the sub dreams you certainly know of fainberg ? [00:19]
mircea_popescu: [00:21]
mircea_popescu: (the defense attorney name kicks all possible ass) [00:22]
asciilifeform: lol sure does! [00:26]
asciilifeform: and yes heard [00:26]
asciilifeform: who hadn't heard [00:26]
asciilifeform: if only he scored the sub, too.. i dun think usg coast guard carries depth charges [00:27]
mircea_popescu: smells of usgtronic nonsense miles away much like the usg-organized kidnapping and extorsion of orthodox rabbis in the "divorce torture plot"/ [00:27]
mircea_popescu: goes well with the iirc discussed "sex scandal" of the lessee [00:27]
asciilifeform: goes best with the 'death ray of new york' 'plot' [00:27]
mircea_popescu: hmmm i never put this in the logs ?! [00:28]
asciilifeform: not iirc [00:28]
asciilifeform: !~google divorce torture plot [00:30]
jhvh1: asciilifeform: 2013 New York divorce torture plot - Wikipedia: <> U.S. Accuses 2 Rabbis of Kidnapping Husbands for a Fee - The ...: <> Rabbis Accused in Kidnap, Torture Plot to Gain Divorces - Newser: (1 more message) [00:30]
mircea_popescu: a there we go [00:31]
a111: Logged on 2014-12-12 05:24 mircea_popescu: << check out the pics lol [00:31]
mircea_popescu: teh good old teitelbaums, owning a larger school sytstem than the state, helped along to "dynastic disension" etcetera. [00:32]
asciilifeform: what's the reason to suppose that the rabbis did not do what they were accused of ? [00:34]
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> if only he scored the sub, too.. i dun think usg coast guard carries depth charges << Some bigger boats likely do [00:34]
asciilifeform: it seems, from my distant perch at least, 'in character' [00:35]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's the reason to suspect you're not "holding woman against her will" ? [00:35]
mircea_popescu: the usg has no title and no right to ascertain such "crimes". [00:35]
asciilifeform: on the day that it stops chasing after folx playing usg-in-miniature , may as well close shop neh [00:36]
mircea_popescu: nevertheless. it's not whether they did or did not do. that consideration can't be reach for lack of standing. [00:36]
asciilifeform: monopolist. [00:36]
asciilifeform: but tru, asciilifeform was not in the warehouse, has nfi whether buncha rabbis wires some schmuck to the mains or not [00:37]
mircea_popescu: and if they did -- asciilifeform also not in a position to say if this is good or bad. [00:38]
asciilifeform: mild bias to 'good' but dunno what diff it makes [00:38]
asciilifeform: i dun work there [00:38]
mircea_popescu: there shall be no banning of words. this does not reduce to my saying nigger or for that matter to [00:39]
a111: Logged on 2015-01-30 05:51 mircea_popescu: which is why i am not ever giving it up. the freedom to threaten is not merely my fundamental, unassailable sovereign property, but moreover essential for the construction of effectual instruments to squash the socialists and their golums. [00:39]
asciilifeform: was the rabbi trial about words, tho [00:39]
mircea_popescu: there's no proforma ban to my gouging babies eyes out and shoving them up self-same babies arseholes unlubricated. [00:39]
asciilifeform: or deeds [00:39]
mircea_popescu: there can never be a proforma ban. [00:39]
asciilifeform: the 'rule of law' racket is exactly about pro forma ban tho. [00:40]
asciilifeform: where , e.g., 'he needed gouging' is not a defense [00:40]
mircea_popescu: yeah well. and dirtyness is exactly about the lice. [00:41]
asciilifeform: however, i gotta ask, what happened to ? usg beat and imprisoned the rabbis, at the end of the day. so how come it does not 'prove superiority' in mircea_popescu's lens ? [00:43]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-17 18:54 mircea_popescu: the man who, walking into a room, overpowers all present, is entitled, by right of force, to whatever he may extract. [00:43]
asciilifeform: if strength is what matters. [00:43]
asciilifeform: 'treason never prospers.. none dare call it..' etc [00:44]
trinque: which man is usg? [00:44]
asciilifeform: trinque: read the original subj -- buncha rabbis accused of 'torture for hire', jailed [00:45]
asciilifeform: by feds [00:45]
mircea_popescu: (incidentally -- sheldon adelson, who is remarkably not ever mentioned by the sort of people who keep going "koch brothers!!!", but otherwise chiefly famous for a) helping trump get 25mn to win the election and b) being involved in a very typically shakedown and then buying newspaper to attack presiding judge and also making the "charge" go away. [00:47]
a111: Logged on 2017-02-27 12:30 mircea_popescu: (story there was, olympus "hired" aka finally accepted its first foreign devil ceo (michael woodford) in 2011 and fired him two weeks later as the dude was principally dedicated to the job of, how can we finance usg out of this japanese corp. the usg however didn't go home, but started "legal proceedings", which eventually resulted in the above theft, plus whatever office supplies woodford managed to take home. apparently 6 [00:47]
trinque: asciilifeform: did read, my question went the other direction. [00:47]
trinque: usg isn't a he. [00:47]
BingoBoingo: In other news: Miners signaled for SegWit 'Lock In" UASF averted, network turbulence expected [00:47]
mircea_popescu: the substance of the usgtronic "moral panic" was all about how sheldon adelson's macau operations force local girls into prostitution and deal with triads and so on.) [00:48]
asciilifeform: trinque: this is a convenient device but is nonsense. robber who uses 'laws' is not somehow distinct from robber who uses knife. [00:49]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: let the anyonecanspendolade bloom? what does it do to actual btc users [00:49]
asciilifeform: ? [00:49]
asciilifeform: afaik 0 [00:49]
BingoBoingo: AHA [00:49]
trinque: wasn't there some derping about 2mb blocks too? [00:50]
BingoBoingo: But because of SPV mining expect some orphans [00:50]
trinque: I admittedly didn't follow any of it [00:50]
BingoBoingo: trinque: Still derping, only really Silbert seems to be pushing atm [00:50]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform robber who uses "laws" is properly known as whore, not robber. [00:50]
asciilifeform: trinque: there is eternal 'megablox' derp, never goes so far as to fork for some odd reason [00:50]
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between theft and robbery. [00:50]
asciilifeform: trinque: segshitness was in re 'we'll stop signing our tx so as to fit Moar in per block, and rando can Never! spend'em because of this other turd we shat out nowhere near the actual blockchain but Miners Will Enforce' approx [00:52]
mircea_popescu: (for completeness ) [00:52]
mircea_popescu: ^ the above is exact summary of "segregated witness". [00:53]
trinque: asciilifeform: right, so miners are the invoice bot I'm releasing later in the month, but without my character. [00:53]
mircea_popescu: trinque "not a he". dream of all the losers making up the sea of dumb since forever. [00:54]
mircea_popescu: "act -- but not respond!" [00:54]
deedbot: << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1511...5653 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <> ' ( BR SP) [00:54]
deedbot: << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1541...1033 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <> ' ( BR SP) [00:54]
trinque: wassat? [00:54]
mircea_popescu: trinque yes, the miners are the bot without the name. because that's what the tards want of this world -- to act, without responsibility. to be famous, but unknown. stuff. [00:54]
trinque: ah right [00:55]
asciilifeform: miningisabug.jpg [00:55]
trinque: I'm still chewing on this "usg is a man" thing, wondering if I'll hock up anything to spit [00:55]
trinque: even allowing the "man", *nobody* obeys when it's in the room [00:55]
trinque: would appear that's the entire point of it, pervasive scam [00:55]
asciilifeform: trinque: a beehive is not a man. but there is such a thing as a bee-keeper. [00:56]
mircea_popescu: it is a pervasive scam. if you can be made to believe bullshit, it may exist. [00:57]
trinque: corruption thread comes right back to mind. when bezos is head pantsuit, or whoever, will he look more like it, or it more like him? [00:57]
mircea_popescu: as the wise jew once said, "here's a bunch of pennies, let god keep what he needs and let the rest fall back down" [00:57]
mircea_popescu: trinque what of bezos is not entirely hillary ? [00:57]
mircea_popescu: she also hassled her maids, what. we're going to go by "how hard work is" nonsense on derpy blogs by derpy faux-media aspiring chicks ? [00:58]
trinque: no distinct male voice, can't be any men in there. [00:58]
asciilifeform: ocean dun have male voice either. dun help the drowned men. [00:59]
mircea_popescu: but it also doesn't make "drowning" some sort of ocean-agency. [01:00]
mircea_popescu: however many it drowns -- its score does not increase. however many go and return -- their score does increase. [01:00]
asciilifeform: nope. it's simply how reality reimposes itself on the strutting ballsack. [01:00]
mircea_popescu: this is in a word all of the original most serene republic. [01:00]
asciilifeform: the ancients did give impression of giving sea 'score' tho [01:01]
asciilifeform: this 'not increases', is modern [01:01]
mircea_popescu: well, the ancients had no venice. [01:03]
mircea_popescu: romans sucked at sailing for all the ocean scoring. [01:03]
deedbot: << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1422...8877 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <> ' ( PL) [01:03]
deedbot: << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1699...2657 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <> ' ( PL) [01:03]
* asciilifeform not the first or the last to wonder if living by the sea makes for vastly less idiotic cultures 'automatically', from close and regular contact with unforgiving reality [01:03]
mircea_popescu: nah. central america, retarded as planks. polynesia, dumber than the average horse. coast of africa off zanzibar ? i think i saw cupcakers with more iq. [01:04]
asciilifeform: 'by the sea' more specifically sailing. rather than sitting like beached whale. [01:05]
trinque: asciilifeform: is usg one of the gods in this metaphor? smothered the jewish strutting ballsacks? [01:05]
trinque: suppose to besos clinton it is. [01:05]
asciilifeform: trinque: you're far ahead of me on this train of thought, can't yet say [01:05]
asciilifeform: was thinking of the actual sea. [01:06]
asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu is right, the savages gained ~nothing from their sea. [01:06]
mircea_popescu: "usg as god" is about as laughable as all the iconodule fare. really, you've made this god-box ? you did ? [01:07]
trinque: look it has a very official sticker on it! [01:07]
trinque: we couldn't afford stitching [01:07]
asciilifeform: i'm not particular interested in trinque's straw men. [01:08]
asciilifeform: ftr. [01:08]
trinque: baw, you went from USG to ocean, not me. [01:08]
mircea_popescu: now, iconoclasm is necessarily a sort of bullshit. but this does not make the iconolater anything more than the common dog, seriously now. manufactured gods ? and what, with a family ? [01:08]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 04:40 asciilifeform: the 'rule of law' racket is exactly about pro forma ban tho. [01:08]
asciilifeform: trinque's picture, not mine. [01:09]
mircea_popescu: the ocean stays the ocean in this discussion for just as long as no one made it and not a minute longer. electricity, witness, no longer any kind of god. [01:09]
asciilifeform: usg -- artifical bee hive. [01:09]
mircea_popescu: the lion no kind of god either, not since its continued existence depends entirely on human gift-giving. [01:09]
trinque: << was in reference to this. [01:09]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 04:43 asciilifeform: however, i gotta ask, what happened to ? usg beat and imprisoned the rabbis, at the end of the day. so how come it does not 'prove superiority' in mircea_popescu's lens ? [01:09]
trinque: which amounts to a reference to USG as a thing with singular agency. [01:10]
mircea_popescu: ftr, i dun beleive in any kind of new york hasidim superiority. for one thing i fear the jews are congenitally retarded. for the other, the time for that item came and went in the 30s. [01:10]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they have ~bulletproof 'omerta' tho . gotta be worth something [01:10]
mircea_popescu: and very slutty teenagers, too. also worth something. [01:11]
asciilifeform: i dun particularly like the hassidim aesthetically, which is neither here nor there, but respect the omerta. [01:11]
asciilifeform: and the willingness to cut the inca out of the loop. [01:12]
mircea_popescu: large part of it is cultural. imagine, alf captured by africans. "tell us the trilema secrets!!1" [01:12]
mircea_popescu: "bitch... even if i wanted to..." [01:12]
asciilifeform: can easily picture, having as it happens already been 'captured by africans' [01:12]
asciilifeform: 'show us how to write without bugs..' [01:13]
asciilifeform: i also readily buy the 'congenital reatarded' item. just say no to cousinfucking, folx. it dun do any good. [01:16]
mircea_popescu: which is the point here. divinity -- corupts. [01:16]
mircea_popescu: anything else -- is corrupted. [01:16]
mircea_popescu: which is how the xtian god ended up married with picket fences and an obnoxious wife. it got corrupted. [01:16]
asciilifeform: 'regression to mean' [01:16]
mircea_popescu: if you will. happens everywhere though. divine boy will make the girl let all her articles of clothing go down the river one by one, and spend the rest of the weekend naked among the trees. base boy will be struck with the girl's beauty, marry her and raise her children. [01:18]
mircea_popescu: divinity -- corrupts. everything else, is corrupted. [01:18]
asciilifeform: and i pictured the halflingfaggotgodonastick got 'married with fishwife' when fishwives started praying to him [01:21]
asciilifeform: how else could it work [01:21]
mircea_popescu: when fishwives corrupted teh priesthood. [01:21]
mircea_popescu: see, thats the item there. not when they started praying but when the priests started fearing their not praying any longer. [01:22]
asciilifeform: fwiw classic hassids did not have this problem, didnt permit females within a cannon's shot of temple or talmudery [01:22]
mircea_popescu: the hassids permitted. it's complicated, but, in the context of judaism (which is STRICTLY an eastern european affair, just as "united states" will not be a thing of hawaii even long after the continent is no longer us and the island still clings to history), hasidism was a sort of 1800s 1960s. flower power all the way. [01:24]
mircea_popescu: "love of god as dancing" and what have you. [01:24]
mircea_popescu: "joy of faith" [01:24]
asciilifeform: it is mistake to picture it as 'living fossil' of 1700s j000z ? [01:25]
mircea_popescu: i would say it is. it was a genuine reform movement, and it was shockingly liberal for the early 1800s born. [01:25]
asciilifeform: hm. [01:26]
mircea_popescu: and it permitted women in the first and fundamental sense of, allowing they are human. not as rabbis, and not usually educated in the formal yeshiva sense. but it did teach them to write and read, which was entirely novel. [01:26]
mircea_popescu: the whole concept was to make the wife more of a domestic partner and less of a domestic animal, with better results wrt the control of the young hussies. [01:27]
mircea_popescu: if you've seen cabaret with liza minelli, i would propose that the rich jewish chick there depicted is a very correct rendition of the hasid maiden. [01:27]
asciilifeform: hm..! [01:27]
mircea_popescu: very german, yes, but still. [01:27]
asciilifeform: makessens [01:27]
mircea_popescu: now, manwhile goym went to shit making hasids look ultraorthodfox whatever. but not what they were back when they actually carried meaning rather than mere tradiiton. [01:28]
asciilifeform: and before germans 'cut off the flower, leaving the stem' (tm)(r)(trilema) [01:29]
mircea_popescu: the germans -- also congenitally retarded -- managed to go to war with all their natural allies in fucking order. the sight, it boggles the mind. [01:29]
mircea_popescu: there was no better demographic to support nazism than the jews, is the truth of 1935. [01:30]
asciilifeform: and truly nuked. asciilifeform never once saw j00 'in costume' or in any other culturally relevant sense before usa. [01:30]
* asciilifeform bbl [01:31]
mircea_popescu: this is no small matter, but touching to the very trunk of the tree of wisdom. inept schoolboy hitler saw WORDS proferred by anglo-sybils in new york as DEEDS of the jews. instead of embracing germany's jews and putting forth the god-obvious "those anglo muppets are jews like ford made tin cans are cars", cut them at the knees of their entirely absent legitimacy and then let the experts (all on his side) wipe the floor with t [01:36]
mircea_popescu: he upstart 1/3 of new york small time pimps and coffin sellers, he gutted his economy. [01:36]
mircea_popescu: i dunno how one could be dumber. literally. [01:36]
deedbot: << Qntra - Miners Signal Segwit Via BIP 91 "Lock In" Avoiding "User Activated" Fork [02:02]
mircea_popescu: !~ticker --market all [02:03]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2800.0, vol: 35350.00751910 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 2637.67, vol: 17372.40298 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2820.0, vol: 104783.35848556 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2795.608758, vol: 30030.56970000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2810.299, vol: 20226.5504777 | Volume-weighted last average: 2796.88128489 [02:03]
BingoBoingo: !~google pointless and witless [02:03]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The story of Pointless and Witless on Trilema - A blog by Mircea ...: <> The Artful Critic: "Project X" alternately outrageous, fun, daring ...: <> Why do we pay for this pointless witless Z-grade? | Daily Mail Online: (1 more message) [02:03]
mircea_popescu: strange, i thought the stupid shit marttered and was needed and whatnot. [02:03]
mircea_popescu: and i guess the next round of these idiots will not "know" how to find the previous round in the logs. [02:03]
trinque: heh, some idiot central american dude just tried my front door. [02:09]
trinque: I opened it, asked him if he was having trouble with the lock. [02:10]
BingoBoingo: lol [02:11]
BingoBoingo: Did you try his backdoor? [02:11]
trinque: he turned and ran, but wasn't an ass worth chasing [02:12]
mod6: mega l0g [02:13]
mod6: trinque: da faq? [02:13]
BingoBoingo: Man, people gotta learn ettiquette. If you challenge someone's door, and someone on other side meets your challenge then you gotta offer your own door for their challenging. [02:14]
trinque: mod6: hey maybe there's some tight white girl pussy inside to visit. [02:20]
trinque: turns out there is, too [02:20]
* trinque back to bed [02:20]
mod6: ni ni [02:21]
BingoBoingo: Sweet dreams of challenging salvadoran backdoor trinque [02:44]
ave1: I've put up the adapted musl-cross files for building gnat here: [06:05]
ave1: well, I did not, but have looked at it now, I like the static story but fail to understand why they need to have their own faux systemd [06:06]
ave1: it will build adacore's gpl 2015 by default, cd into dir, run ./ /absolute/build/dir [06:08]
ave1: after 3 hours or so, you'll have a tar file there with static gcc/gnat tools that are all based on musl [06:10]
ave1: it does not yet contain the asis based tools (gnatelim for example) [06:11]
diana_coman: thank you ave1, that looks great [08:21]
ave1: you're welcome! I'm working on getting the gnat gpl code to work with the gcc 4.9.4 release (now they are using a special version of 4.9) [09:26]
ave1: p.s. was in reaction to: [09:27]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 10:06 ave1: well, I did not, but have looked at it now, I like the static story but fail to understand why they need to have their own faux systemd [09:27]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-19 16:17 asciilifeform: !~later tell ave1 have you ever used 's musltronic linux ? or have any idea who maintains it ? invite'em here. [09:27]
shinohai: I thank you also ave1 .... will try this sometimes this weekend [09:33]
asciilifeform: ave1: pretty compact, too [09:50]
asciilifeform: neato [09:50]
mod6: mornin' [09:53]
asciilifeform: heya mod6 [09:53]
* asciilifeform testing ave1's thing. it is an ultra-compact thing, in the style of my original 'stator' [09:54]
asciilifeform: aaaaand... [09:54]
asciilifeform: it barfs. [09:54]
mod6: huh. [09:54]
asciilifeform: or hm [09:55]
asciilifeform: wanted ~absolute~ path, let's try it again.. [09:55]
ave1: as said, it's mostly + patches to get ada to work in it [10:04]
ave1: bbl [10:06]
asciilifeform: ave1: [10:25]
asciilifeform: ^ eggog [10:25]
asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu << i laid this out on paper and it worx. [11:14]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 19:23 mircea_popescu: but -- the fact that A happens to already have a connection to B and therefore B can S for him does not imply or require either A or B be not behind a nat. [11:14]
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded. [11:14]
asciilifeform: theoretically. [11:14]
shinohai: “… the U.S. homeland, individual American citizens, and U.S. public opinion and perceptions will increasingly become battlefields.” [11:17]
shinohai: bwahahahaha [11:17]
asciilifeform: 'Observing that U.S. officials “naturally feel an obligation to preserve the U.S. global position within a favorable international order,” the report concludes that this “rules-based global order that the United States built and sustained for 7 decades is under enormous stress.”' [11:19]
asciilifeform: lol!! [11:19]
shinohai: Long live the Kyklos [11:20]
asciilifeform: '“Fact-toxic” information pertains to actual truths which, the document complains, are “exposed in the absence of context”, and therefore poison “important political discourse.” Such information is seen as being most potent in triggering outbreaks of civil unrest , because it: “… fatally weakens foundational security at an international, regional, national, or personal level. Indeed, fact-toxic exposures are those lik [11:22]
asciilifeform: eliest to trigger viral or contagious insecurity across or within borders and between or among peoples.”' didjaknow!! [11:22]
asciilifeform: << see also thread. [11:25]
a111: Logged on 2016-04-11 17:05 asciilifeform: they have a phrase they use amongst themselves, 'societal security'. [11:25]
trinque: << relevant [11:35]
phf: << mostly age, the few years that i'm younger than you i think made all the difference in the 90s scheme of things. by the time i "queuing up in the recruitment strip" it was tail end of the epoch [11:44]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 01:35 mircea_popescu: << and why not ? [11:44]
asciilifeform: phf: hey, at least you dun have to live with narrowly missing ww1 trenches, like orwell did [11:44]
asciilifeform: ( it was his formative trauma ) [11:45]
phf: the point i was trying to make here is that people that i had family/friends contact to that could've been "дядя ваня устроит, поработать" were suddenly!1(tm)(c) all [11:46]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 00:04 phf: i.e. a handful of arrests, a handful of "demoted and moved to a different department" etc. and at least one death that we knew was no longer "bratki" [11:46]
asciilifeform: 'reallocation of capital' was done.. [11:47]
trinque: what's the quoted ru part, for the peanut gallery? [11:48]
asciilifeform: trinque: 'uncle vanya will giveya some work' [11:48]
asciilifeform: ( foot-soldiery, naturally ) [11:48]
trinque: ah ty. [11:49]
phf: "unlce vanya will take you in, for a bit of work" [11:49]
phf: russian has this neat property of packing double triple meanings into the phrase by using subtle word modifications and word order, which is what asciilifeform tried approximating with "giveya" :) [11:50]
* asciilifeform does try [11:51]
asciilifeform: << see also. [11:51]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-15 19:15 asciilifeform: translating to engl always feels like hand-compiling to risc asm [11:51]
phf: amusingly enough all the mil crowd that was quietly sitting out the 90s are the ones that were making real bank on the sly, and that's the people i should've been reaching out to (considering...) [12:01]
phf: but the 90s was such a shoulda-coulda-woulda decade, looking at it in retrospect can only reveal your own limitations. so i can understand mp's sentiment [12:05]
trinque: I'm 30 now 90s amount to a vague memory of "people might've done things before. maybe in the 80s?" [12:12]
phf: << i'm not sure that's a criticism that can be leveled at pelevin, he's got other traps though. he has a keen eye for the present, but then he adds a layer of interpretation very much in the style of This Is What's Really Happening, which is usually of esoteric nature. his bratki take psychedelic mushrooms "to get fucked up next level!1" and accidentally break into the a shared buddhist realm of higher being, t [12:15]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 01:28 mircea_popescu: << the problem is that the russian intellectual pose is very irritating to me. the whole fucking text exists so that the author can "roll his eyes" however you say that in russian, aka to bake in somehow unobservedly the proposition the speaker and all those like him aren't horse's asses. it doesn't amuse me in 16yo usian chicks let alone in 36 yo russian doods. [12:15]
phf: hat sort of thing. [12:15]
phf: but then i was at a potomac jew book club where they were discussing generation p (or one of the earlier novels anyway), and they couldn't get past THE HORROR OF THE 90s, literally entire conversations were about omg so much crime. all these people emigrated right after the collapse, where's for me the staple of 90s (oh there's a dead body on the corner, because petya shnur couldn't share the territory with vasya kulak, shrug) were the norm [12:18]
trinque: can say that "ah I read some alan watts and huxley, my getting high has a point" *was* that kind of signaling in my younger stoner circles, can see how mp would get there. [12:18]
phf: so reading pelevin back then might've had a very different effect from reading him now. chapayev and pustota then blew my mind because i read it when it came out and it was very present time, but his 2000s stuff i don't get at all (because i read it in u.s. perhaps), and some things didn't age that well. [12:19]
mircea_popescu: and in other passions, [13:20]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "as good as it ever will" sort of thing. [13:26]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 15:14 asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu << i laid this out on paper and it worx. [13:26]
mircea_popescu: the scheme DOES for instance require people maintain non-internet connections, and in general : multimedium links. because otherwise the night of no internet means the end of the republic as such. [13:26]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform + die 'Failed to build gcc-4.9.5' << you clearly have the wrong one. because this is a thing now, "wrong 4.9" [13:30]
mircea_popescu: << aw look, brightest minds of the empire tracking trilema a few years late. isn't this cute. [13:31]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 15:17 shinohai: “… the U.S. homeland, individual American citizens, and U.S. public opinion and perceptions will increasingly become battlefields.” [13:31]
trinque: I've got a gentoo box that's severely tangled due to it having hauled in >gcc-5 with whichever portage gnat, something something ABI change C++2017 bright future (TM) [13:32]
trinque: attempted a downgrade back to 4.x, how naive! [13:32]
shinohai: I retardedly did the same thing trinque during one of my earlier attempts w/ ada [13:33]
mircea_popescu: good thing you two decided to put it in the log, sounds exactly what the baked-in "reasonable" move would be, who knows how many souls it claimed. [13:34]
asciilifeform: << same barf on whole platoon of boxes with differing gcc here [13:34]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 17:30 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform + die 'Failed to build gcc-4.9.5' << you clearly have the wrong one. because this is a thing now, "wrong 4.9" [13:34]
trinque: did the "revdep-rebuild" and "" and apparently none of these ever conceived of a man that wished to go back [13:35]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform maybe they just don't happen to have the magic one. it's my story an' i'm sticking to it till ave1 pops back in. [13:35]
mircea_popescu: trinque accidentally on purpose. [13:35]
trinque: mmhhm [13:35]
asciilifeform: << shortwave!!1! [13:35]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 17:26 mircea_popescu: the scheme DOES for instance require people maintain non-internet connections, and in general : multimedium links. because otherwise the night of no internet means the end of the republic as such. [13:35]
mircea_popescu: shortwave, cuntwave, the works. [13:35]
shinohai: Hey we make mistakes so you don't have to! (tm) [13:36]
mircea_popescu: let it be clearly stated that there's no such thing in nature as the isolated republican. true thay you may be busy working for a long time, but in the end, isolated citizen == cpu without i/o. [13:36]
* asciilifeform at one point considered 'distributed shortwave' via 'accidentally bad cable' vga cards [13:37]
mircea_popescu: this is not at all a bad idea. possibly more expensive than the originally contemplated. [13:37]
asciilifeform: idea being -- hardware everyone already has in the cellar [13:37]
asciilifeform: muchc cheaper than actual station in antarctica or whatevers [13:37]
asciilifeform: and less 'star topo' [13:38]
asciilifeform: phf: how do i say стрёмный in the king's engl [13:40]
* mircea_popescu is somewhat nonplussed phf sits around "hackerspace" derping with baloons instead of making the shortwave-nat-over-other-peoples-cars thing fore instance. [13:40]
mircea_popescu: just who's corrupting who! [13:40]
asciilifeform: that's what 'adult' sw station is. стрёмный. so donotwant [13:40]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i sorta assumed the ballons were for antennae [13:40]
mircea_popescu: the young nazi is supposed to be the natural direction of any ruminant herd, and !!! [13:40]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think he said as much. [13:41]
asciilifeform: lol i luvv that scene [13:41]
mircea_popescu: aha! [13:41]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform stromniy works lol. [13:42]
phf: hmm, perhaps sketchy? dodgy? but yeah, some dimension is lost [13:42]
asciilifeform: looking for the other added flavour, 'gives away your position' [13:42]
mircea_popescu: calibanesque is teh only possible english word [13:43]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you dun get much range with unmodified vga card. but! with ~tenbux of added plug-in and long wire... [13:44]
mircea_popescu: "frightfully loud in presentation and dubiously effectual in activity" [13:44]
asciilifeform: the hard part ~used to~ be the: receiver. but! nomoar [13:44]
asciilifeform: rtlsdr is 10bux and ubiquitous [13:44]
mircea_popescu: yes, but plenty of people live in the by now soviet traditional [13:45]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-13 18:40 mircea_popescu: << this incidentally is a fine example of what i mean by : bed-door clearance ? exactly enough to fit a standing chick, if were thin, AND NO MORE. [13:45]
mircea_popescu: no space for cables. [13:45]
asciilifeform: i had sw in uni dorm [13:45]
asciilifeform: doable [13:45]
mircea_popescu: alright. consider my piddly objections withdrawn. [13:45]
asciilifeform: and anywhere you can spread a clothesline, you get princely reception [13:46]
mircea_popescu: speaking of "why the fuck aren't your clotheslines connected to anything, lamer" : why the ef are they still not making aluminum books ? use 5 mils say, ruberized/siliconized edges... [13:47]
asciilifeform: waiwat [13:47]
mircea_popescu: which part ? [13:47]
asciilifeform: books? [13:47]
mircea_popescu: yes. [13:48]
asciilifeform: with aluminum cover? [13:48]
asciilifeform: wai [13:48]
mircea_popescu: PAGES [13:48]
asciilifeform: sounds nasty [13:48]
mircea_popescu: aluminum will go down to 5 micrometers np. this means 1k pages book = 5mm = 1/5th inch thickness. [13:48]
asciilifeform: oh hey i got 1 here [13:49]
mircea_popescu: can make PAGE arbitrarily thick so all books are the same thickness throughout, if you want. can do all sorts of things./ [13:49]
asciilifeform: except it ain't a book, it's a 1980s capacitor from su [13:49]
mircea_popescu: how is it not a book. will fucking outlats ANY paper support. [13:49]
asciilifeform: it nicely illustrates the down side [13:49]
mircea_popescu: by 5mn years or so. [13:49]
asciilifeform: mega-pain to separate'em [13:49]
mircea_popescu: ruberized/siliconized edges... [13:49]
asciilifeform: this one is mylarized. still pain, because static. [13:50]
asciilifeform: sorta why it worx as a cap [13:50]
asciilifeform: but this book would be great, easily hold enough charge to nuke unwary thief [13:50]
mircea_popescu: are you telling me someone tried and hated it ? because hey, tin foil is in every house, no pain to separate. [13:50]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't use electrically isolated pages. [13:51]
asciilifeform: meh then, that's the 1 megafeature [13:51]
asciilifeform: ( not 4evah either, al oxidizes at stp. just -- slowly ) [13:51]
mircea_popescu: right, alf has decided "permanent book, never will rot away" and "1/10th the thickness and 1/3rd the weight of current afid traps" no features./ [13:52]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform oxidation dun matter, you don't write in aluminum on it wtf. [13:52]
asciilifeform: not perma, see above [13:52]
mircea_popescu: you can use pre-oxidized alum anyway. [13:52]
asciilifeform: pages will fuse [13:52]
mircea_popescu: not more than tin foil fuses. [13:52]
ag3nt_zer0: g'day fellas... [13:53]
mircea_popescu: hi. [13:53]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: gotta try this. i do want one. [13:53]
asciilifeform: now where to get nanoleaf al... [13:53]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i had taken you for a man who has and lived with a library. i am one of those also, and i have nfi how you can not immediately think of the [13:53]
mircea_popescu: DUST [13:53]
asciilifeform: oohyea [13:53]
mircea_popescu: motherfucker, my library in ro could produce a pail a week. a FULL pail. [13:53]
asciilifeform: i got filters here [13:53]
mircea_popescu: yeah well. [13:53]
asciilifeform: but obvious limits. [13:54]
mircea_popescu: much better to not have 5 trillion little afid shits eating away at the deliuciouys desert innit now. [13:54]
asciilifeform: tru!! [13:54]
asciilifeform: one catch : ain't nobody printing b00kz worth reading, nao [13:55]
asciilifeform: all them bookz, are old. [13:55]
mircea_popescu: so you repriont the old ones and need not worry about them. [13:55]
asciilifeform: may as well scan then, neh [13:55]
asciilifeform: if reprint and throw out paper. [13:55]
mircea_popescu: [13:55]
a111: Logged on 2017-04-05 23:00 asciilifeform: but as a massively-distributed long-term backup, aluminum is ~unbeaten -- it's probably the only reason asciilifeform was able to find a copy of genera [13:55]
asciilifeform: this yes. [13:55]
mircea_popescu: you will want to note them on aluminum anyway. ANYWAY [13:56]
mircea_popescu: might as well make them optoinspectable neh. [13:56]
mircea_popescu: at a certain loss of density, surely. [13:56]
asciilifeform: i'll point out that the al in cd is not exposed to atmosphere. [13:56]
ag3nt_zer0: mricea_popescu I know your response to my question is run my own node... but if I currently do not have one set up and wanted to be safe with my coins during this nonsense (i.e. take them off of coinbase & store safely), would following pete_dushenski's guide to creating an offline brainwallet utilizing 13 words arrived at through the dice method using only english dictionary be sufficient until I get an up and running trb node? B [13:57]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you can get single-atom coats nowadays. [13:57]
ag3nt_zer0: I dont know if there is a risk in transferring NOW seeing as this segwit stuff is going on... is there any kind of chance my coins won't be signed properly or something like this? [13:58]
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 i would say so, yes. make sure you use the dicelist method correctly, and make sure the privkey is not exposed to third parties. [13:58]
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 nothing is going on. go right ahead and generate a proper privkey, compute safely its associated address, and move your coins there. [13:58]
ag3nt_zer0: OK! [13:58]
ag3nt_zer0: TY [13:58]
ag3nt_zer0: :) [13:59]
* phf goes wherever party tells him to go [14:00]
ag3nt_zer0: hehe [14:00]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: upstack, imho 'pirate radio' ( for tmsr , not rando pseudomusic ) is fertile green field. plenty of idle spectrum for confiscation from its supposed 'owners'. and if done correctly ( see saddam jammer thread ) -- ungassable. [14:01]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you could gild the pages at no extra cost. or you know, plutonim them, platinum them... [14:02]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, i fully agree. that's why i'm nudging the not-entirely-desocialized elements to bring teh light to the masses already. [14:02]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall the hypohetical pcb businesscard asciilifeform drew [14:02]
asciilifeform: even had gold. [14:02]
phf: but my electronics knowledge is limited, so for me durping with one radio transmitter/receiver is no different than another, because the result is going to be my improved understanding but very little in terms of practical results [14:03]
mircea_popescu: electromagnetics + power of the republic = [14:03]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 04:09 mircea_popescu: keep the ewes for meat and the goats for the hilarities. [14:03]
mircea_popescu: phf we're nowhere near political trials yet. [14:04]
phf: i'm a soviet man, i prepare my own defense even before i start thinking about doing it [14:04]
asciilifeform: lol [14:04]
mircea_popescu: my vrag naroda cards arent erven back from the shop yet. [14:04]
asciilifeform: i thought about very basic 'tmsr cicada' - for 84,399 seconds of the day, box listens for rsa-signed packet 1 second - transmits latest known [14:06]
asciilifeform: 86.. lol [14:06]
asciilifeform: ( prolly dun even need whole sec ) [14:07]
asciilifeform: triangulate ~that~. [14:07]
mircea_popescu: could by now make ACTUAL bug-sized and looking item, with metal pike, insert into tree. solar + etc. triangulate and what, congrats you found a $15 prize ? [14:08]
asciilifeform: aha, we discussed this [14:08]
mircea_popescu: right. [14:08]
asciilifeform: it was what i got those lithium sulfide cells for. got prototype, veerry threadbare [14:09]
asciilifeform: they dun care about heat, frost. [14:09]
mircea_popescu: night. yeah, useful itam. [14:09]
asciilifeform: and 59yrs of ping pong easily. [14:09]
asciilifeform: cheaper than solar, incidentally. and less conspicuous. [14:09]
asciilifeform: ( and similar life... ) [14:10]
asciilifeform: one gotcha is that the immediate practical ( vs 'fleet in being' ) value of such a thing is ~0. [14:11]
mircea_popescu: not quite so 0. [14:11]
mod6: <+asciilifeform> aha, we discussed this << ya, cool idea [14:11]
asciilifeform: say asciilifeform scatters these about. ends up... talking to self [14:11]
mircea_popescu: phf explains to you above -- it has significant training value. BOTH technical and political. [14:11]
mircea_popescu: it further has artistic and emotional value. [14:11]
asciilifeform: this yes. [14:11]
asciilifeform: btw asciilifeform is STILL, 3y !! after the original thread, looking for a supplier of RAW esp8266 [14:12]
phf: also can probably string them as far as adams morgan zoo from your bunker, have a secondary effect as definitely getting labeled as terrorist when caught (lizard territory) [14:12]
asciilifeform: and 0 dice [14:12]
asciilifeform: phf: drop'em from the illicit chopper. 'may as well hang for sheep as for lamb' [14:13]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ideally, buy a fucking chinese drone, just for the hell of it. [14:14]
mircea_popescu: (no, as it stands, you could fly it over white house and nobody would know specifically what's going on. they can only detect them when landed in open air.) [14:14]
phf: drop them from the balloon glider [14:14]
asciilifeform: ( and before anyone asks, NO i am not interested in paying moar per raw chip than the pcbs cost now. which is 1 $ ) [14:14]
mircea_popescu: phf you realise that me + daisy rifle = pest control for a fleet of 5k baloons/hour or somesuch ? [14:15]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where do i buy this rifle, that works for 20km [14:15]
asciilifeform: i want [14:15]
asciilifeform: ( death ray!!1!! ) [14:16]
mircea_popescu: yeah, right, he's gonna disperse his launch pads over a 1200km area [14:16]
asciilifeform: balloon is 60km vertical easily [14:16]
mircea_popescu: he's goingto have one launchy spot, and ima sit in a chair across the street from it. [14:16]
phf: see, sergey, that's why launching at night! [14:16]
asciilifeform: but yes you can kill anything, e.g. icbm, if you know which 'street to sit across ' [14:17]
mircea_popescu: oh, i gotta get the stage whores get me a spot light too ?! say it's not so, inconvenience unthinkable. [14:17]
asciilifeform: sorta how launching anything worx. it's slow. [14:17]
mircea_popescu: o look, the daisy 499b (200 bux) actuallyu does 73mps muzzle velocity. i can even sit across parking lot. [14:18]
asciilifeform: these are neat, it was recced to me for squirrel control [14:18]
asciilifeform: almost as good as the old austrian 18th c thing [14:19]
mircea_popescu: aha! wars were fought in such [14:20]
mircea_popescu: now if they only made the spiked bb already. [14:20]
asciilifeform: incidentally i am picturing mircea_popescu's balloon hunt scene literally in my head, and wonder, suppose balooonist puts asymmmetric fin on. so goes up - spiraling. now aim. [14:20]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you're kidding me aren't you ? [14:20]
mircea_popescu: i can shoot fucking squirrels your fined baloon is gonna do anything ? [14:21]
asciilifeform: squirrels sit put [14:21]
mircea_popescu: ahahaha [14:21]
mod6: :D [14:21]
mircea_popescu: you've never actually tried have you ? [14:21]
asciilifeform: at any rate this'd make great sport [14:21]
mircea_popescu: they run-stop, it is optimized for antishooting. [14:21]
mod6: anyway, finned ballon follows pattern you just learn to lead 'em [14:21]
asciilifeform: 1player makes baloon, other - shoots [14:21]
mircea_popescu: mod6 he's not a hunter, it shows. [14:21]
mircea_popescu: fucking squirrels. try leading those for a nervewracking experience. [14:22]
mod6: yeah they turn on dimes. [14:22]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: city squirrel is stupid tho [14:22]
mircea_popescu: only until you start shooting at it. [14:23]
mircea_popescu: this convo with the "fin!!!" thing is eerily reminescent of early crypto discussion s, at that. [14:25]
mircea_popescu: "i will derive my entropy from physical processes nearby!" "o aren't you cute" [14:25]
asciilifeform: ( other obvious recipe for headache for balloon hunter - bouquet'em , with 5x redundancy. now he needs a machine-gun ) [14:25]
mircea_popescu: or a friend. or nothing at all, his bb goes 70 meters a second, your baloon maybe .5 [14:25]
ben_vulpes: "plink until it pops!" [14:26]
mircea_popescu: you could prolly get the street urchins involved, if only you can provide rifles for them. this is becoming a sort of "isis in mosul" deal [14:26]
asciilifeform: the obvious pill is to not get into the position of where olympic skeet shooters are following you around the world.. [14:27]
mircea_popescu: ahahahaha! [14:27]
mircea_popescu: ima link to this next time you say anything in the vein to me.\ [14:27]
mircea_popescu: "the obvious solution to acoso callejero is to not go around where horny males can see you" [14:27]
mircea_popescu: "why thank you most profusely, kind science man sir!" [14:27]
mircea_popescu: "would a spherical vacuum do ?" [14:27]
asciilifeform: ( and must also ask, if they are already here, why wait for baloon, wai not my head ) [14:28]
mircea_popescu: no crime to shoot balloons. [14:28]
asciilifeform: depends. inca balloon may cost dearly, dearer than asciilifeform's head [14:28]
mircea_popescu: if it costs dearly it's gonna be a chopper noit a balloon. [14:29]
asciilifeform: recall the $billion balloon of all-seeing sauron from 2014 [14:29]
asciilifeform: ( deflated like toy ) [14:29]
mircea_popescu: aha. just how many kinds of spherical vacuums do you have in that belt of yours ? [14:30]
asciilifeform: only 1, installed in arse [14:30]
asciilifeform: instead of anal oracle from yest. thrd [14:30]
mircea_popescu: well stop flavouring us with it then! [14:31]
asciilifeform: upstack : if anybody knows where to get esp8266 , or knows who knows, etc.., plz write in [14:33]
asciilifeform: i'd personally buy, say, 5k @ 25c ea. [14:34]
asciilifeform: maybe in another 3y.. [14:35]
mircea_popescu: gotta talk to teh chinos. [14:36]
asciilifeform: i did, but must be doing it wrong, they only offer a) the pcb 2) chip, but for >= price the pcb sells at. [14:37]
asciilifeform: even in qty 10 [14:37]
asciilifeform: K [14:37]
asciilifeform: nao if mircea_popescu knows how to get to the ~right~ chinos... [14:38]
mircea_popescu: it's iffy. i suppose by now we actually should employ a china-based supplies expert ? [14:38]
mircea_popescu: by the time it'll be 5 years old, like the "we should have isp expert" thing is, we'll have it just as solved as the isp thing is solved. [14:39]
asciilifeform: i dun actually know whether this has any hope of working. [14:39]
asciilifeform: gotta have, i suspect, a real, live cn fella in wot. [14:39]
asciilifeform: who can navigate. [14:40]
asciilifeform: hey wasn't mats chinese..? [14:40]
mircea_popescu: yeah but he lived in us neh ? [14:41]
asciilifeform: ( now i recall, he found the 1$ pcb people for me earlier. but that was as good as it got then ) [14:41]
asciilifeform: ah yea. [14:41]
mircea_popescu: need someone lives in beijing. maybe hit the want ads [14:41]
mircea_popescu: sort-of like the manul chick, except moar dedicated. [14:41]
asciilifeform: alternatively we bake adhoc , simpler radio, from 25c microcontroller. [14:42]
mircea_popescu: is this something the foundation may maybe consider ? open us an embassy in beijing, hire a chick to sit there 4 hours/day or such ? [14:42]
asciilifeform: without 802.11 [14:42]
asciilifeform: what do we need 80211 for anyway. [14:42]
ben_vulpes: interesting [14:42]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hiring a hireling for a l1wot work is recipe for evaporatiing money and no moar imho [14:43]
mircea_popescu: why ? [14:44]
mircea_popescu: i hired chicks to write on their tits. also recipe ? [14:44]
asciilifeform: cn rando will happily take yer money and sit pretty and 'sorry, no result today, lets try tomorrow ' [14:44]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform o no. sits for specified 4 hours, has link here, gets specific tasks... [14:44]
mircea_popescu: im hiring a uci. [14:44]
asciilifeform: aah [14:45]
asciilifeform: could then, work [14:45]
mircea_popescu: biosac candi_flesh [14:45]
mircea_popescu: we could even call her that. [14:45]
asciilifeform: 'get sample party of 8266 by next tues' etc [14:45]
mircea_popescu: you... never did this, did you ? [14:45]
asciilifeform: which this [14:45]
mircea_popescu: this, candi_flesh herding. if you say what you just said you merely pump up her anxiety. no, it's "make list of so and so websites. make list of so and so items." etcetera. [14:46]
mircea_popescu: gotta give proper tasks, there's no imperative c. [14:46]
asciilifeform: i only ordered bois [14:47]
mircea_popescu: aite [14:47]
asciilifeform: they gotta get in the format 'by next tues' etc [14:47]
mircea_popescu: works better for well understood tasks in well mapped spaces. [14:47]
asciilifeform: tru [14:47]
asciilifeform: iirc ben_vulpes still herds 'human compilers' , knows [14:48]
ben_vulpes: not any more [14:51]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: now only own 2 hands ?! [14:55]
mircea_popescu: in any event, the business case is right here : if hireling gets 2k/month and takes less trhan a week to find alf's above 5k esp8266s at 22cents each, we in fact have positive roi on the scheme (for that week). [14:55]
asciilifeform: actually the 8266 episode taught me to eschew 'magic, rare' ic [14:55]
mircea_popescu: we can use her to i dunno, open a booth at chinese university distribute flyers. [14:56]
asciilifeform: gotta find how to make do with ordinary ones. [14:56]
asciilifeform: as i did for, e.g., FG. [14:56]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not a bad strategy but not immune to augmenting. [14:56]
asciilifeform: it wouldn't hurt to get illicit cheapo cn knockoff cpld either. [14:56]
mircea_popescu: besides, a mail point in the empire of the future can't hurt anything, and so on and so forth. [14:56]
asciilifeform: verytru [14:56]
mircea_popescu: so the bidniss case is here. mostly a matter of whether we can get the ops together. [14:57]
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: something like that [14:58]
mircea_popescu: << is this the orange revolution come home to roost ?! [15:01]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 15:22 asciilifeform: '“Fact-toxic” information pertains to actual truths which, the document complains, are “exposed in the absence of context”, and therefore poison “important political discourse.” Such information is seen as being most potent in triggering outbreaks of civil unrest , because it: “… fatally weakens foundational security at an international, regional, national, or personal level. Indeed, fact-toxic exposures are those lik [15:01]
mircea_popescu: << i believe. [15:03]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 15:44 phf: << mostly age, the few years that i'm younger than you i think made all the difference in the 90s scheme of things. by the time i "queuing up in the recruitment strip" it was tail end of the epoch [15:03]
mircea_popescu: i was ungodly young, by all accounts, to the point of giving the older people pause. and this was WITH my great benefit of easily passing in person for significantly older than i actually was. [15:05]
mircea_popescu: << the ww1 trenches were no fucking party. foot rot and malaria, nevermind. narrowly missing out on the 20s, now that i can see. be like 17 in 1928 sorta shit. [15:08]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 15:45 asciilifeform: ( it was his formative trauma ) [15:08]
asciilifeform: he wanted in, wat. [15:08]
mircea_popescu: i do not believe. [15:08]
trinque: wait, you were saying his trauma was not going to ww1? [15:08]
asciilifeform: trinque: or so he said [15:08]
mircea_popescu: trinque that's blair's own version. [15:08]
asciilifeform: selling it for same price i bought it for. [15:08]
mircea_popescu: aha. [15:08]
trinque: just curious [15:08]
asciilifeform: according to his b00k re spain, most of the other folx who went -- similar [15:09]
mircea_popescu: supposedly hitler also, formative trauma. [15:09]
asciilifeform: yeah but for him ~end~ of ww1 was the trauma. [15:09]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i believe he is correct re similar, but incorrect in the anchor. he, and most other folks who went, were actually looking for the golden excuse. [15:10]
asciilifeform: y'mean the release of the kiss of the magic bullet ? [15:10]
mircea_popescu: no. but the acting as if. [15:10]
asciilifeform: he got his -- but a little too low, into the neck [15:10]
asciilifeform: lived [15:10]
mircea_popescu: there's great relief, you see, in my own mind, by simply noticing that, "hey, i was dead about twenty years ago ANYWAY. what do i care". [15:10]
mircea_popescu: this is something a certain sort of mind can simply take or leave but another sort absolutely desperately craves. [15:11]
asciilifeform: it's appealing yea [15:11]
mircea_popescu: "everything from here on end is just gravy", as it were. [15:11]
asciilifeform: 'bonus level' [15:11]
mircea_popescu: right. "wasn't supposed to get this far anyways." [15:12]
mod6: "borrowed time" [15:12]
asciilifeform: << briefly revisiting this thread, imho ideal masquerade is... cheap lost pen. just the right length, fits quarter-wave or so antenna inside, plus lithium batt etc. and looks entirely unremarkable wherever it falls. [15:13]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 18:08 mircea_popescu: could by now make ACTUAL bug-sized and looking item, with metal pike, insert into tree. solar + etc. triangulate and what, congrats you found a $15 prize ? [15:13]
asciilifeform: ( bonus if it IS a pen, writes. ) [15:13]
phf: also shoots one bullet [15:13]
asciilifeform: lol that's a diff project [15:13]
mircea_popescu: i have a naked girl in my livingroom on all fours with a brush going at the carpet. whom should i call ? [15:14]
* asciilifeform pictures the scene from 'numbers' [15:14]
asciilifeform: with the dildo + pen [15:14]
mircea_popescu: speaking of whch, i so don't fucking understand why ~all female cosmetics don't come in dildo packages anyway ? [15:14]
asciilifeform: i thought they did [15:14]
mircea_popescu: you know it's the only common element in the preteen masturbatory history of all girls i met ? [15:15]
asciilifeform: lipsticks, creams, etc. -- just about all of'em [15:15]
mircea_popescu: not rly, if you look closely most have dumbass ridges lips etc in the way. [15:15]
phf: still they try [15:15]
asciilifeform: file edges with nail file [15:15]
mircea_popescu: why not you know, dick-mold the things from the get go [15:17]
mircea_popescu: i naively thought industry is all about serving the market not about trying to impose strange ideologies upon it. [15:18]
asciilifeform: lol!! [15:18]
asciilifeform: see also naggum's 4-ring notebooks. [15:18]
mircea_popescu: ikr ? [15:18]
mircea_popescu: BUT THEY TAUGHT ME IN SCHOOL! [15:18]
ave1: asciilifeform: for, it looks like you are building with adacore 2016 edition, could you try with the 2015 edition (no need to do a real install, just unpack it and set path to the bin dir will be enough) [15:18]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 14:25 asciilifeform: ^ eggog [15:18]
asciilifeform: ( << ) [15:18]
a111: Logged on 2013-12-22 16:56 asciilifeform: 'what people “want” is a function of what they learn is available. e.g., do Americans want three-ring binders, and Europeans four-ring binders? or do they want binders and take whatever number of holes they come with? or do they want something that can help them organize their papers and take whatever is available? or do they really want a less cluttered office and ease of storage and retrieval of the infor [15:18]
ave1: I'll look into getting it to work with 2016 in the mean time... [15:19]
mircea_popescu: really, having one working point is all the job. [15:19]
mircea_popescu: dun worry about the rest unless you for some peculiar reason actually want to [15:20]
mircea_popescu: trinque << uncle vania will give you A COSTUME and something to do. [15:21]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 15:48 asciilifeform: trinque: 'uncle vanya will giveya some work' [15:21]
mircea_popescu: livery being apropos. [15:21]
asciilifeform: ave1: it's pretty odd, the path IS valid and DOES contain the includes [15:22]
asciilifeform: ave1: can you tell me why it insists on having hg around, also / [15:23]
asciilifeform: ? [15:23]
asciilifeform: fuck that [15:23]
asciilifeform: i thought we were cremating the dependency maggotry [15:23]
ave1: hmm, the musl-cross repository was hg but should not be needed, will remove [15:23]
ave1: asap [15:24]
asciilifeform: ( on a box where i already happened to have it, it got past the hg thing. but pretty ridiculous that it even exists. ) [15:24]
ave1: as I had it too, it skipped my attention [15:24]
ave1: I see it was just so that a little id could be printed in the end, very stupid [15:29]
asciilifeform: lol! [15:29]
mircea_popescu: << there was no real us 90s. whole thing was just a derpy kumbaya of inept hipsters crawling out of the lousy studios with "i told you so" placards. is about all of it. [15:32]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 16:12 trinque: I'm 30 now 90s amount to a vague memory of "people might've done things before. maybe in the 80s?" [15:32]
mircea_popescu: he "followed moskva" dontchaknow. [15:33]
asciilifeform: usa 90s were really part of usa 80s, which lasted until 9/11/01 [15:33]
mircea_popescu: right. [15:33]
asciilifeform: ( just as '60s' in usa were period from '58 to '74 ) [15:34]
mircea_popescu: even the shitty "i'm not even trying" melody is part of the experience. [15:34]
mircea_popescu: fucking mosquat. rhymes with cumquat. [15:34]
mircea_popescu: cuz it's exotic, see. exotic flies like fruit. [15:35]
trinque: strikes me every time when I get a whiff of the apparent.. "placehood" what american folks would've referred to as the "post-soviet collapse space" of the 90s, had [15:35]
trinque: meanwhile the dirt that "won the cold war" no placehood my entire lifetime. [15:35]
mircea_popescu: the cold war was won in the manner of soccer game behind the apt building being won by other team's mom calling kids in for dinner. [15:36]
mircea_popescu: "soo... i guess we won huh." [15:36]
asciilifeform: ^ [15:36]
mircea_popescu: "totally... and tomorrow in school these assholes are gonna have sukhois and we'll get an F in algebra" [15:37]
trinque: hah, paints a picture. [15:37]
mircea_popescu: such wins i'd rather let for the enemy. [15:37]
mircea_popescu: ahahahaha! o shit i forgot how epic this is [15:39]
mircea_popescu: "let your balalaika sing what my guitar wants to say"... [15:39]
mircea_popescu: "and don't forget to release the nuclear dancing bear..." [15:39]
mircea_popescu: "to the magic of the moment on a glory night... here's more words without any particular meanings... it's the way of tomooooroooo" [15:39]
mircea_popescu: "dream awaaaayyy... in the " etc. [15:40]
phf: << [15:43]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 19:32 mircea_popescu: << there was no real us 90s. whole thing was just a derpy kumbaya of inept hipsters crawling out of the lousy studios with "i told you so" placards. is about all of it. [15:43]
mircea_popescu: imo that was pretty good. [15:44]
mircea_popescu: the mockery is like aspic all over it. [15:44]
mircea_popescu: very good band to do it, too, the mannerists. [15:44]
mircea_popescu: i suppose the period was ironclad to sarcasm... [15:45]
phf: heh, you know for how iconoclast petshopboys were i never even thought about "go west" being tongue in cheek. at the time pet shop boys were moscows bards of freedom so of course they would sing go west in earnest. fwiw, they tried warning us, but you had to be in the know to get it [15:47]
mircea_popescu: it was transparent to me, at the time. but then again i'm weird. [15:48]
mircea_popescu: it IS shocking to revisit, though. "quite ?!" overpowers the mind. [15:48]
mircea_popescu: phf in fairness might be an age thing again. a few years make all the difference in humor like in war. [15:49]
mircea_popescu: somehow 15yos are always spoken to in earnest. [15:50]
mircea_popescu: especially if you ask them. [15:50]
mircea_popescu: << and you don't see how this is exactly curtis yarvin crap ? [15:59]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 16:15 phf: << i'm not sure that's a criticism that can be leveled at pelevin, he's got other traps though. he has a keen eye for the present, but then he adds a layer of interpretation very much in the style of This Is What's Really Happening, which is usually of esoteric nature. his bratki take psychedelic mushrooms "to get fucked up next level!1" and accidentally break into the a shared buddhist realm of higher being, t [15:59]
mircea_popescu: "keen eye for the superficial" is not much of a qualification. [15:59]
phf: "helllooo springfield!!!1 --- omg it's us, he's talking about us" [16:00]
mircea_popescu: lol [16:01]
mircea_popescu: in other youboobs, [16:02]
mircea_popescu: apparently i'm developing an amy winehouse interest. [16:02]
mircea_popescu: chick's actually pretty cool. [16:02]
mircea_popescu: she -- also tried to warn. [16:03]
trinque: > feel like a lady, and you my ladyboy [16:04]
trinque: great [16:04]
mircea_popescu: says the fucking words, you know ? "you should be stronger than me". dood... [16:05]
mircea_popescu: drunk self to death, age 28. literally. [16:05]
asciilifeform: << see also!11 [16:11]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-14 19:08 asciilifeform: << 'at your age, sergei lazo was already circling around the locomotive!' [16:11]
phf: 27, she's a member of the 27 club [16:12]
mircea_popescu: ah [16:12]
mircea_popescu: !~google "bondage crazed amy just can't beehive in bed" [16:16]
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Bad girl Amy | Perth Now: <> Amy Winehouse 'begged to be tied up during sex', claims ex ...: <> 45 of 99 DOCUMENTS Copyright 2007 NEWS ... - Sex Degrees: < [16:16]
asciilifeform: in other mircea_popescutronic lulz, >> 'U.S. prosecutors on Friday said they plan to drop criminal charges against two former JPMorgan Chase & Co (JPM.N) derivatives traders... ... Prosecutors said their efforts to extradite the defendants have been unsuccessful or deemed futile..' [16:40]
deedbot: << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - What is Israel anymore? [17:29]
mircea_popescu: aww [17:39]
mircea_popescu: << especially tyhe genius of having the 2nd standing up to be that fairzuka balk sow-esque girl, all small eyes and animal zeit. [17:43]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 17:41 asciilifeform: lol i luvv that scene [17:43]
asciilifeform: aha!! [17:43]
mircea_popescu: [17:44]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 02:15 mircea_popescu: and they existed very much because ro girls, unlike russki stupid cunts, did NOT perceive themselves at some kind of liberty to not whore up for the gangster class. [17:44]
asciilifeform: i thought the springs were springy, but ratchets rusty, or how it went [17:44]
mircea_popescu: wrong parts mounted on the chassis, car dun werk. [17:45]
mircea_popescu: correct parts have been ordered. [17:45]
mircea_popescu: poppenkorken expected thereupon. [17:45]
asciilifeform: gefingerpoken, gemittengraben!111 [17:45]
BingoBoingo: <trinque> I'm 30 now 90s amount to a vague memory of "people might've done things before. maybe in the 80s?" << AHA [17:53]
a111: Logged on 2017-07-20 02:50 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> no. i recall the faggots, not yet VERY overweight, going to the things that meanwhile got captured by apple, much like coca-cola captured xmas << In elementry school historical context for the then present was established to be "on the verge of paradise, if only we stop littering" [17:53]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> now if they only made the spiked bb already. << They do sell for air rifle. [17:57]
mircea_popescu: really ? does it shoot out of lise barrel ? [17:57]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the latest DoD studies as to things and matters wrt AMERICA!!!, [18:08]
asciilifeform: lolswordswallower [18:08]
mircea_popescu: pro tip : most rapists prefer the body subdued but still warm. [18:09]
mircea_popescu: the us splendidly qualifies. [18:09]
mircea_popescu: and back to cabaret, it's plain to everyone joel grey's role is quite literally morte, the ace of spades, the xiiith card ? which is why he's in the morgige tag scene right at the end. [18:29]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> really ? does it shoot out of lise barrel ? << Shoots out of .177 caliber barrel, standard ammo for air pellet rifle [18:34]
mircea_popescu: this i gotta see. link or anything ? [18:34]
BingoBoingo: One variation [18:35]
BingoBoingo: Unarchived link [18:36]
BingoBoingo: Also variations without lip [18:36]
mircea_popescu: ah ah. no, i meant spiked. you know, all over :D [18:36]
shinohai: ^ I love those crossman destroyers ... perfect for taking out varmits [18:36]
BingoBoingo: AHA not seen yet [18:36]
mircea_popescu: for obvious reasons yes [18:36]
BingoBoingo: !~later tell pete_dushenski So, question of the day. How does infant car seat handle in Blackzilla? [18:37]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded. [18:37]
mod6: im just lucky that the woodpeckers go after the trees as opposed to the structure, or i'd be spending a lot more time in the backyard like rambo [18:37]
mircea_popescu: aaand in romanian accents, [18:39]
BingoBoingo: In other Yesterday on Qntra , as of noon-ish today Sean Spicer is out as Trump's press secretary. [18:43]
mircea_popescu: he wasn't very good. [18:43]
BingoBoingo: Well, legacy GOP appointee recommended by Priebus [18:44]
mircea_popescu: anyway, the old "gop" dorks fell over like so much paper candles, the traditional senatorial refuge in disease and bodily weakness. guy won his home front, no question. [18:44]
BingoBoingo: Of course he was going to suck. Didn't believe in "The Great Again" and tried repping Trump like a Lindsey Graham oldster. [18:44]
mircea_popescu: curious if he finds a workable goebbels. [18:45]
BingoBoingo: Well, I put in my application this winter. [18:45]
mircea_popescu: ehehe [18:45]
BingoBoingo: If he fails to find me through having the wrong rats read applciations, it is his failure. Unlike Obamacare he owns this failure to hire. [18:46]
mircea_popescu: should be interesting. [18:46]
asciilifeform: why in satan's name wouldja want a spiked-all-over musketball [18:48]
asciilifeform: vs normal human bullet [18:48]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a concept. [18:48]
asciilifeform: ain't like the spikes not facing the motion vector will do anything but drag [18:48]
mircea_popescu: you don't understand the humour. [18:48]
asciilifeform: is it variant of spherical horse? [18:49]
mircea_popescu: aha [18:49]
asciilifeform: lolk [18:49]
asciilifeform: one never knows with mircea_popescu-tech [18:49]
mircea_popescu: pressure-driven ordnance can't be stupid profile. [18:49]
shinohai: [18:49]
trinque: but dakka driven ordnance needs more dakka [18:49]
mircea_popescu: ^ [18:49]
* asciilifeform pictures em-launched 'ninja star' [18:49]
asciilifeform: hey not-pressuredriven!11 [18:50]
mircea_popescu: dakka is formed out of spike. [18:50]
mircea_popescu: er blockt hinauf in himmels au'n wo heldengeister niederschaun'n -- alle schiessen stachelig kugeln! [18:52]
BingoBoingo: In other quotes from the wild: “The question that needs to be answered is, was this shooting a mistake or was it a “cultural seizure” by a Muslim officer who snapped and acted irrationally at the sight of a woman in her pajamas?” [18:52]
mircea_popescu: see, women naked indoors == no such problems. [18:52]
asciilifeform: Eine jede Kugel, die trifft ja nicht! Denn träfe jede Kugel apart ihren Mann, Wo kriegten die Könige ihre Soldaten dann? (tm)(r) [18:53]
mircea_popescu: that's because they weren't spiked approprioately. [18:54]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all [19:06]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 2680.0, vol: 23505.77466807 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 2585.999, vol: 9272.31027 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 2677.0, vol: 66199.91207557 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 2721.236616, vol: 20625.93920000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 2679.913, vol: 13673.6021251 | Volume-weighted last average: 2678.34291775 [19:06]
mircea_popescu: o noes [19:07]
BingoBoingo: And the latest from the delusionists: "If Trump abuses his presidential powers to pardon in a way that obstructs justice, he could be prosecuted under a future administration." [19:24]
mircea_popescu: bwahaha [19:29]
mircea_popescu: what future fucking administration. [19:29]
mircea_popescu: really, not obvious this is the last one ? [19:29]
asciilifeform: i recall when obummer was supposed to be the last. [19:40]
mircea_popescu: and bush! [19:56]
BingoBoingo: << His was [19:59]
BingoBoingo: Trumpreich is not an administration [19:59]
BingoBoingo: It is a sentence! [19:59]
BingoBoingo: Of Great Again! [19:59]
deedbot: << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1401...7229 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <> ' ( US TX) [21:23]
deedbot: << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1391...3357 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <> ' ( US TX) [21:23]
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> what future fucking administration. << 'tis kinda true, with each successive one the twilight wanes. [21:43]
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