Forum logs for 12 Dec 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
asciilifeform somehow asciilifeform still believes they're running things tho << ahaha lol, which 'they.' [00:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19012 @ 0.0005931 = 11.276 BTC [-] [00:10]
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ben_vulpes I guess he didn't like being called idiotic: https://twitter.com/fluffyponyza/status/542109944901009408 << love how you're leaning into your own profile pic [00:18]
assbot Those derps… RT /BryceWeiner: /blockchain.info published private keys. http://t.co/B6tmulgmyY [00:18]
ben_vulpes that particular one is a payment processor << what happened to the mining rig rack fab operating out of africa? [00:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5862 @ 0.00061492 = 3.6047 BTC [+] [00:23]
ben_vulpes heh, i've robotripped a few times << danielpbarron you are delightfully eccentric [00:24]
mats robotripping is filthy [00:24]
mats a 'poor man's trip' if you will [00:26]
ben_vulpes see also: salvia [00:26]
ben_vulpes "coward's trip" when i was a teen. [00:26]
BingoBoingo It's an awful hangover. [00:27]
ben_vulpes afaik the cost of serious physics research runs well into nine digits << if not twelve. [00:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18192 @ 0.00059192 = 10.7682 BTC [-] {2} [00:31]
ben_vulpes rockets are ~9. [00:31]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: see eotvos thread. it isn't a matter of price tag. [00:31]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: the folks spending the 12 are charlatans. [00:31]
ben_vulpes roundaboutly saying that one can't buy legitimacy from the entrenched idiots. [00:32]
ben_vulpes a) their ask is too high and b) they don't sell legitimacy. [00:33]
ben_vulpes rockets at least - either go into orbit or not. [00:33]
* ben_vulpes fired up the 52" tv on loan from a client today [00:34]
ben_vulpes just to loop CATO videos [00:34]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: today, only mars, god of war, is selling legitimacy. [00:35]
asciilifeform installment plan. [00:35]
ben_vulpes i've given up on rockets. [00:36]
ben_vulpes i'll be satisfied to slave for mars building agile jet-ruiners and ghetto turrets [00:36]
ben_vulpes king of this continent isn't worth the piss in my urethra much less the fruit of my loins. [00:38]
mats so subversive [00:39]
ben_vulpes this, from the infantryman. [00:40]
mats sapper, actually. [00:40]
mats trained at leonard wood, not benning [00:41]
ben_vulpes hah you don't say [00:41]
mats not as interesting as it sounds [00:42]
BingoBoingo At least mats hasn't err'd yet [00:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26613 @ 0.00061216 = 16.2914 BTC [+] [00:43]
ben_vulpes he's a sapper though. implicitly - err'd once. [00:43]
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ben_vulpes kakobrekla: someone told me recently I should hire slovenians to build a mobile app for me. do you know anyone in that industry in your neck of the woods? << perhaps consider my humble app factory [00:44]
mats i sweat balls for 16 weeks in MO, and unlucky enough to end up in a unit that just returned from a rotation into hell [00:45]
ben_vulpes mike_c: we're masters of the bezzletronic arts of quality app authorship [00:45]
mats never got to take the fight to the enemy. a real sadness in my life [00:45]
ben_vulpes what enemy lol [00:46]
mats its all relative [00:46]
BingoBoingo Here's a secret about Missouri.... The weather never has a pleasant season. [00:46]
mats i could've lived with having fought against men with guns [00:46]
mats i'm a simple guy with simple rules [00:46]
mats moral ambiguity is for other people. [00:47]
mats my hands are clean, but not because i was unwilling to bloody them [00:48]
ben_vulpes well you're here now. [00:48]
mats now i'm just another dude that sits down all day and talks at computers [00:48]
mats funny how that happens? [00:48]
ben_vulpes ;;rate mats 1 first best grandest sapper of la serenissima [00:49]
gribble Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system. [00:49]
ben_vulpes ah get fucked gribble [00:49]
ben_vulpes ;;eauth ben_vulpes [00:49]
gribble Request successful for user ben_vulpes, hostmask ben_vulpes!~user@unaffiliated/benkay. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/2AFA1A9FD2D031DA [00:49]
ben_vulpes ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:0e038a622e6f3b912336a9eae37bf66a22cf0397410a29f5a410e5d9 [00:49]
gribble You are now authenticated for user ben_vulpes with key 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA [00:49]
ben_vulpes ;;rate mats 1 first best grandest sapper of la serenissima [00:49]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mats has changed from 1 to 1. [00:49]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Sappe only gets to err once, because after Erring there is no more sapper [00:50]
ben_vulpes some say the sapper errs twice [00:50]
ben_vulpes first, in choice of career. [00:50]
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ben_vulpes the ecmaboi's back! [01:08]
ben_vulpes ryanxcharles: come on buddhi be a buddhi [01:10]
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Vexual wow, xbox live taking bitcoin, some kids are gonna start learning the value of money [01:43]
BingoBoingo Maybe, or maybe they will keep talking about urmom [01:43]
Vexual well shes gonna find out too [01:44]
Vexual how does bitpay work? can the kids tack on a few bucks when theay ask mom for xbox moneys? [01:46]
Vexual bits even [01:48]
Vexual future whinge: i spent 10bc on halo [01:49]
Vexual all i got was sore thumbs [01:49]
Vexual funnily fiats have had "designed for windows mobile" stickers on them [01:52]
Vexual next to the usb hole [01:52]
Vexual afiak just on the cheap high volume shit [01:54]
Vexual thats not funny at all, i've lost my mojo [01:56]
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Vexual fuck it, i'm off to write just shoot me fan fiction [02:00]
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BingoBoingo !up Vexual [02:08]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51785 @ 0.00061345 = 31.7675 BTC [+] {2} [02:14]
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mircea_popescu ;;bc,stats [02:23]
gribble Current Blocks: 333956 | Current Difficulty: 4.000747027127126E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 334655 | Next Difficulty In: 699 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 4 days, 15 hours, 5 minutes, and 57 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 39650018750.9 | Estimated Percent Change: -0.89346 [02:23]
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BingoBoingo Two negatives in a row? [02:27]
BingoBoingo Fucking Walgreens selling medicine in packages larger than single servings [02:27]
mircea_popescu http://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/news/13585/ultra_orthodox_jews_in_new_york_rally_against_israeli_army_draft_plans << check out the pics lol [02:27]
BingoBoingo I must still be tripping [02:27]
assbot World Jewish Congress - Ultra-Orthodox Jews in New York rally against Israeli army draft plans ... ( http://bit.ly/1vXkbjf ) [02:27]
mircea_popescu Satmar Hasidim, fwiw, was born in a town called satu mare in romania. [02:28]
BingoBoingo lol [02:28]
BingoBoingo http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/the_slatest/2014/12/11/undercover_cop_pulls_gun_on_protesters_at_oakland_demonstration/rtr4hlde.jpg.CROP.promovar-mediumlarge.jpg [02:29]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1vXkpaj ) [02:29]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo wasn't that a scene in v for vendetta ? [02:29]
BingoBoingo No, apparently from Oakland Shitifornia tonight [02:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00061496 = 6.949 BTC [+] {2} [02:33]
mircea_popescu 1st serenissima sapper regiment should really get herring breakfast. [02:38]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18050 @ 0.00061956 = 11.1831 BTC [+] [02:47]
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scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/cine-cunoaste-stie/ [03:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.000609 = 16.8693 BTC [-] {2} [03:24]
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* BingoBoingo suggests sappers get a delicious salad bar fully of blowfish they can carve themselves [03:43]
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BingoBoingo Belxjander: Interesting part message [03:44]
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Vexual rockin that powerpc? [03:45]
Vexual have you ever eaten blowfish BingoBoingo? [03:53]
BingoBoingo Vexual: Not yet, but it is on the to do list [03:54]
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Vexual Even if things go worng, it's gotta be better than ciguatera [03:55]
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mircea_popescu ;;calc 1320 / [ticker-last] [15:09]
gribble Error: "ticker-last" is not a valid command. [15:09]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [15:10]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 355.53, Best ask: 355.92, Bid-ask spread: 0.39000, Last trade: 355.92, 24 hour volume: 7718.70959079, 24 hour low: 347.01, 24 hour high: 358.07, 24 hour vwap: 352.555439558 [15:10]
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mircea_popescu mod6 http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/#comment-110563 [15:10]
assbot The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/12DbQFy ) [15:10]
mod6 ah, ok thanks. :) [15:12]
mircea_popescu >D [15:17]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25797 @ 0.00057103 = 14.7309 BTC [-] {3} [15:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00056383 = 13.0809 BTC [-] [15:52]
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mircea_popescu shit why can't it be 60+ ! [15:55]
thestringpuller because you don't endorse scammers [15:56]
thestringpuller jk [15:56]
mircea_popescu heh [15:56]
mircea_popescu i didn't mean 60 satoshi, i meant 60k :D [15:56]
mircea_popescu by the way, anyone know what the belgian nut did when emigrating to australia ? [15:57]
thestringpuller mod6 is tempting me to sign up as VIP [15:57]
thestringpuller i was told there will be harems [15:57]
mircea_popescu you gotta be like doing stuff tho [15:57]
thestringpuller i thought that was to talk, not listen. lol [15:59]
mircea_popescu lol [15:59]
asciilifeform i went to #2, and i still don't get, what does the 'vip' option do? [16:00]
asciilifeform iirc mircea put it on my tab last time [16:01]
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rithm the harem is in the VIP [16:02]
mircea_popescu it just means you're cool. [16:04]
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mircea_popescu "Being Submissive doesn't mean you think less of yourself, it means you think of yourself less." ah love that quote. [16:07]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: well, I will just show up I 'spose can use the VIP money on booze night 1 [16:08]
mircea_popescu hehe i guess so. [16:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59134 @ 0.00058115 = 34.3657 BTC [+] {2} [16:11]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/ << and so then they were five! plus the peeps planning to show up. [16:11]
thestringpuller i owe chetty a glass of wine [16:11]
assbot The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/12DnIax ) [16:11]
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asciilifeform what happens to the 'just show up' folks? sans vip [16:30]
mircea_popescu well they don't get to participate saturday and have to find their own accomodations/drinks/meals/w/e else. [16:31]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/#identifier_7_54701 [16:32]
assbot The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/13hgwC7 ) [16:32]
thestringpuller ah well then I want to be VIP when you put it that way :P [16:33]
mircea_popescu well yeah but you gotta do something! what will go after your name ? [16:34]
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thestringpuller "Professional Cookie Monster" [16:35]
asciilifeform folks, anyone wishes to see me appear at #3 ? [16:35]
BingoBoingo Better get baking! [16:35]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i do. [16:35]
thestringpuller the oven is always running :D [16:36]
thestringpuller i probably have the diabetes [16:36]
scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2014/12/judge-rejects-florida-mans-bid-to-dismiss-case/ [16:37]
fluffypony that's because he's not a Normal man [16:38]
mircea_popescu "The statute was intended for the exchange of money for money, If you extend it to anything of value, then any customer using a credit card to buy something, anyone holding a yard sale and accepting cash, is a money transferer." [16:38]
mircea_popescu which is EXACTLY what they're doing ? [16:38]
mircea_popescu who thought out this strategy lol, confront the rapist with a strongly worded statement, "but sir! what you are contemplating would be tantamout to rape!" [16:38]
mircea_popescu methinks he knows already. [16:38]
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mircea_popescu in other news, http://www.hotnews.ro/stiri-esential-18778758-romania-cele-mai-multe-nasteri-din-adolescente-sub-15-ani-comitetul-onu-cere-strategie-privind-sanatatea-drepturile-sexuale-ale-reproducerii.htm?nomobile= [16:45]
assbot Romania, cele mai multe nasteri din UE la adolescente sub 15 ani. Comitetul ONU cere o strategie privind sanatatea si drepturile sexuale si ale reproducerii - Esential - HotNews.ro ... ( http://bit.ly/13hiG4w ) [16:45]
mircea_popescu romania, most births under 15yo out of the eu. [16:45]
thestringpuller teen pregnancy? [16:46]
mircea_popescu well no, inasmuch as a 19yo is also a teen [16:47]
mircea_popescu this is, pre 15. [16:47]
thestringpuller babies having babies [16:47]
mircea_popescu to deliver before 15 a girl has to start fucking just about at the time she starts bleeding [16:47]
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mircea_popescu fertility is kind-of low for the first few years. [16:48]
mircea_popescu look at that, ralph baer died [16:49]
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mircea_popescu is this like the rumour that jooz make blood bread ? [16:59]
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BingoBoingo scoopbot -fetch [17:00]
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scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2014/12/vice-fingers-alleged-silk-road-2-0-mole-account/ [17:01]
danielpbarron BingoBoingo, s/suspicious/suspicions/c [17:03]
BingoBoingo thx [17:04]
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BingoBoingo Oh look at reddit discuss the Normal man additional information https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2p2wp3/additional_information_on_normal_man_arrested_for/ [17:08]
assbot Additional information on "Normal man" arrested for selling bitcoins in Illinois : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/13hmz9y ) [17:08]
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mircea_popescu lmao at this "bill cosby said things about how niggers should try and wash up so now we're claiming he raped us" campaign is so lulzy. [17:14]
mircea_popescu but hey, i guess there's not going to be a cosbygate, on the grounds that who the fuck cares. [17:15]
mircea_popescu meanwhile @reality ranch, http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/12/04/The-Sexodus-Part-1-The-Men-Giving-Up-On-Women-And-Checking-Out-Of-Society [17:16]
assbot The Sexodus, Part 1: The Men Giving Up On Women And Checking Out Of Society ... ( http://bit.ly/13hnU05 ) [17:16]
mircea_popescu i suppose nobody's looked specifically at the 80/20 male/female split in ritalin forced consumptrion. date rape drugs bad, ritalin good eh ? [17:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 130 @ 0.008451 = 1.0986 BTC [-] {2} [17:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29400 @ 0.00057426 = 16.8832 BTC [-] [17:30]
BingoBoingo Now this is sad https://www.thunderclap.it/projects/20199-coin-fire-2015-kickoff?locale=en [17:35]
assbot Thunderclap: Coin Fire 2015 Kickoff ... ( http://bit.ly/1GkqgcJ ) [17:35]
BingoBoingo " Thunderclap messages have reached over 3.5 billion people in 238 countries and territories. It's the world's first crowdspeaking platform, and over 3 million people have donated their social reach for ideas and causes that matter. " << This has to be one of the lulziest things I've ever heard of [17:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23900 @ 0.00057289 = 13.6921 BTC [-] {3} [17:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH3] 2500 @ 0.0012 = 3 BTC [17:55]
decimation what's interesting with the Normal and the Florida prosecutions is that the Feds were involved [17:56]
decimation even though the criminal violations were state law (although the Normal unlicensed money transmitter rules were also Federal) [17:57]
asciilifeform in other news, i've a 0.5.3 with fully synced blockchain. [17:57]
asciilifeform if anyone still gives a damn [17:58]
decimation asciilifeform: was the only change that number of locks constant? [17:58]
asciilifeform there was another change, but i'm fairly certain that it was unnecessary and will repeat the experiment tomorrow with it snipped. [17:59]
decimation is it still leaking memory? [17:59]
asciilifeform worth noting that a blockchain, once wedged, never unwedges; [17:59]
ben_vulpes kakobrekla claims otherwise, i never confirmed his unwedging. [18:00]
decimation I saw that around ~260k blocks that my version of bitcoind was taking up nearly 1gig in memory (linux is not exactly precise with memory accounting) [18:00]
asciilifeform and that the most catastropic memory leak, which devours arbitrarily large system in hours, is only triggered full-throttle upon wedging; [18:00]
asciilifeform and, finally, that memory also leaks if bitcoind is loading blocks the usual way, rather than from a tame box with fully loaded blockchain ('connect' option) [18:01]
decimation which implies that the leak might be associated with the network code? [18:01]
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BingoBoingo Ah, very interesting [18:07]
asciilifeform leak is in the transaction processing code, and is not triggered when loading exclusively from a known-good node with full blockchain. [18:12]
decimation interesting, that is useful [18:13]
decimation I tried running 'perf' to sample calls to 'malloc' and I didn't see any while I was loading from network peers [18:13]
asciilifeform see also http://dpaste.com/1T8RSCJ [18:13]
assbot dpaste: 1T8RSCJ: shit ... ( http://bit.ly/1uxDMSQ ) [18:13]
decimation or more precisely, calls to the kernel memory allocator [18:14]
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asciilifeform above is a wedge run, in 'standard' mode (vs. single connect) [18:14]
decimation heh did you run the whole thing in valgrind? must have been slow as hell [18:15]
asciilifeform valgrind, yes, as printed on the box [18:16]
thestringpuller valgrind is the most amazing program ever made for debugging memory [18:19]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [18:19]
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decimation so it seems to stem from main.cpp:1466 which appears to be the code that handles orphan blocks [18:21]
asciilifeform decimation: i knew this a month ago, yes [18:22]
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mircea_popescu in other news, i've a 0.5.3 with fully synced blockchain. << wd. [18:36]
TomServo ben_vulpes | i never confirmed his unwedging << My 0.7.3 unwedged after appling the fix kako pointed out, if it's of any help. [18:38]
asciilifeform unwedged -existing wedged db-, or worked when run from scratch? [18:39]
TomServo unwedged - was stuck at a certain height (don't recall exact height), applied fix and continued [18:40]
asciilifeform why is 0.7.x even of interest here? very different animal [18:41]
TomServo I've little experience with this and wanted a working node anyway - figured it was a decent place to get feet wet. [18:41]
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TomServo Also running it on openbsd 5.6 if that's relevant - was planning on trying 0.5.3 there next. [18:43]
decimation TomServo: you are going to have to muck with some compiler settings to make openbsd work [18:45]
decimation also I think the available berkley db is ancient [18:45]
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decimation !up diametric [18:47]
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mats what is this wedging business? [18:55]
TomServo mats: blockchain sync stalls at a certain blockheight, and will not continue [18:55]
asciilifeform !s 252450 [18:56]
assbot 14 results for '252450' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=252450 [18:56]
TomServo asciilifeform: now that you mention it, I used your mention of that specific height to determine I was wedged. [18:56]
* decimation doesn't want to learn enough about berkley db to understand why it needs 'tarded magic numbers to work [18:57]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=23-11-2014#932006 << the mega-question [18:57]
assbot Logged on 23-11-2014 05:22:35; kakobrekla: mircea_popescu no the question was did someone abuse the britneychain [18:57]
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decimation asciilifeform: if you got it to fully synch, the answer is 'no' as far as the '0.5.3 spec' is concerned right? [18:58]
decimation but it's a separate question as to whether 0.5.3 has a hidden monster [18:58]
asciilifeform something happened at that block height. [18:59]
decimation I thought this weird 'locks' parameter fixed that? I assumed the issue was that berkleydb itself was failing at that height [19:00]
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BingoBoingo https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ArXcPfoCIAE1r0G.jpg [19:04]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1BEtGqK ) [19:04]
kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-12-2014#952176 < yeah for .7 and can do a rerun if someone is particularly interested [19:05]
assbot Logged on 12-12-2014 20:57:38; ben_vulpes: kakobrekla claims otherwise, i never confirmed his unwedging. [19:05]
kakobrekla http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-12-2014#952202 < exploring the nature getting to see what other beasts do does not hurt. maybe it even unwedges a chain or two. [19:07]
assbot Logged on 12-12-2014 21:38:18; asciilifeform: why is 0.7.x even of interest here? very different animal [19:07]
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decimation lol http://www.theverge.com/2014/12/12/7382287/project-goliath << "The new emails suggest Hollywood hasn’t given up on the idea. "We have been exploring theories under the All Writs Acts, which, unlike DMCA 512(j), would allow us to obtain court orders requiring site blocking without first having to sue and prove the target ISPs are liable for copyright infringement," one email reads." [19:47]
assbot Project Goliath: Inside Hollywood's secret war against Google | The Verge ... ( http://bit.ly/1uxXSfN ) [19:47]
decimation didn't we just hear about the all writs act in a different context? [19:47]
decimation http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/12/feds-want-apples-help-to-defeat-encrypted-phones-new-legal-case-shows/ << "In both cases, the seized phones—one of which is an iPhone 5S—are encrypted and cannot be cracked by federal authorities. Prosecutors have now invoked the All Writs Act, an 18th-century federal law that simply allows courts to issue a writ, or order, which compels a person or company to do something." [19:48]
assbot Feds want Apple’s help to defeat encrypted phones, new legal case shows | Ars Technica ... ( http://bit.ly/1uxY9iI ) [19:48]
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decimation http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/1651 << it turns out "due process" was just bullshit all along!! it was always legal to get blank-check warrants! joke's on you us citizens! [19:54]
assbot 28 U.S. Code § 1651 - Writs | LII / Legal Information Institute ... ( http://bit.ly/1wKbg6L ) [19:54]
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thestringpuller !t m d.stmp [20:35]
assbot Aren't those tins of tobacco right there behind you? [20:35]
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scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2014/12/butterfly-labs-allowed-to-reopen/ [21:33]
mircea_popescu I've little experience with this and wanted a working node anyway - figured it was a decent place to get feet wet. << it's not bad. [21:36]
mircea_popescu i mostly run 0.7s [21:37]
mircea_popescu decimation> I thought this weird 'locks' parameter fixed that? I assumed the issue was that berkleydb itself was failing at that height << yeah the only thing that happened is a block complex enough afaik. [21:38]
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ben_vulpes all this durm and strang around confirming the patchset can catch up [21:43]
mircea_popescu well ya [21:45]
mircea_popescu re : http://dpaste.com/03VSQQP.txt bet was resolved correctly. fuck cryptocoincharts for being inept scammers, they're henceforth banned from being a resolution source on bitbet. [21:46]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1BEVn2J ) [21:46]
ben_vulpes "We find that regions exhibiting more diverse mobility fluxes, earlier diurnal rhythms, and more correct grammatical styles display lower unemployment rates." [21:48]
ben_vulpes pretty low dough thing to scam over. [21:50]
ben_vulpes (quote from abstract of http://arxiv.org/abs/1411.3140) [21:50]
assbot [1411.3140)] Bad paper identifier ... ( http://bit.ly/1uxHDyh ) [21:50]
kakobrekla http://radiostudent.si/sites/default/files/styles/thumbnail_w530/public/slike/2014-10-09-rhyme-kickers-ko-se-zgodi-nepričakovano...32565.jpg [21:51]
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mircea_popescu poor people steal little money. not any less thieves. [21:51]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla he's found a slit has he. [21:51]
kakobrekla yup, the big one. [21:52]
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mircea_popescu http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/16/feminism-poll_n_3094917.html aka http://trilema.com/2014/hey-stupid-women-we-need-to-talk-smart-women-dont-want-to-be-with-you-anymore/ [21:54]
assbot Poll: Few Identify As Feminists, But Most Believe In Equality Of Sexes ... ( http://bit.ly/1uxIgaY ) [21:54]
assbot Hey, stupid women ? We need to talk. Smart women don't want to be with you anymore. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1uxIdfn ) [21:54]
BingoBoingo kakobrekla: Great find. [21:56]
BingoBoingo http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-12-11/verizons-new-encrypted-calling-app-comes-prehacked-for-the-nsa [21:59]
assbot Verizon's New, Encrypted Calling App Plays Nice With the NSA - Businessweek ... ( http://bit.ly/1uxJ4wA ) [21:59]
mircea_popescu duh :D [22:00]
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BingoBoingo At least that leper wears its bell [22:07]
mircea_popescu tru tru [22:09]
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asciilifeform BingoBoingo: key escrow returneth! [22:13]
asciilifeform it's like we're boiling in that hell where time repeats forever. [22:13]
BingoBoingo Is there any other kind of "hell" [22:14]
asciilifeform there is. [22:14]
asciilifeform i can think of a few [22:14]
asciilifeform durm and strang << lol [22:15]
asciilifeform verizon's turd << what i can't fathom is who would willingly pay for this. it is quite like offering a door lock that is 's3cu43!!!11!' except for rapist, for whom it opens automagically and without fuss [22:16]
asciilifeform and this being printed on the crate, no less. [22:17]
mircea_popescu there is. << no there isn't :D [22:17]
asciilifeform l0l [22:18]
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asciilifeform there's the hell where you come up with things to do, none of which are rehashes of previous, ten times faster than you physically could do them, for instance [22:18]
BingoBoingo Sounds like you are familiar with that one [22:19]
mircea_popescu not so much of a hell, that one. [22:20]
asciilifeform or the hell where you're responsible for (and are the only available set of hands) for a missing magic ingredient in six different angry kitchens [22:21]
asciilifeform etc. [22:21]
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BingoBoingo http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/russias-zil-builds-a-futuristic-armored-assault-wagon-1666346817 [22:22]
assbot This Futuristic Armored Assault Wagon Is Russia's Answer To The Humvee ... ( http://bit.ly/1uxMAXJ ) [22:22]
mircea_popescu ;;google Daryush Valizadeh [22:27]
gribble Roosh V - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; The Web's most infamous misogynist regrets nothing - The Daily Dot: ; Sex travel writer Roosh V on rape, misogyny and American women ...: [22:27]
mircea_popescu aha. [22:28]
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BingoBoingo !up Emilysmile [22:30]
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BingoBoingo Hello Emilysmile [22:30]
kakobrekla cant smile without cloak [22:31]
mircea_popescu o that still going ? [22:32]
mircea_popescu i thought there were some random noobs talking here yest or so. [22:32]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: for some reason reminds me of the famous 'leopard' minefield truck: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Rhodesia-Leopard_Security_Vehicle-001.jpg [22:33]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1uxORSQ ) [22:33]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: FOr a while yesterday it seems the reddit 5-0 took a break from here to slow down qntra a bit [22:33]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Well, these things have only so many design choices to be made and... Rhodesia was right [22:34]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo kakobrekla yeah i guess so. [22:35]
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BingoBoingo http://lambdamaphone.blogspot.com/2014/12/design-pl-for-knitting-at-disney.html [22:37]
assbot Everything in Context: Design a PL for Knitting at Disney Research Pittsburgh! ... ( http://bit.ly/1uxPkV4 ) [22:37]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: laugh, but i thought about this as a boy. mother had (still has! we dragged it along to usa!) an east german knitting machine. manually-cranked, but you get to set patterns with myriad knobs and switches. [22:38]
asciilifeform and thought 'this ought to be mechanized' [22:38]
asciilifeform then saw, years later, that it was of course done long ago [22:38]
asciilifeform and you can buy them. [22:38]
asciilifeform but what language they are programmed in remains a mystery to me [22:39]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I'm not laughing. I'm just admiring an actual physics problem that could probably be solved for less than 8 figures of expenditure. [22:39]
asciilifeform probably some perversely graphical cad/cam abortion [22:39]
asciilifeform !s jacquard loom [22:39]
assbot 0 results for 'jacquard loom' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=jacquard+loom [22:39]
asciilifeform ;;google jacquard loom [22:39]
gribble Jacquard loom - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Jacquard loom: ; The Jacquard Loom - Columbia University: [22:39]
BingoBoingo 'String Theory' Exists, but mundane strings are still a hard problem [22:40]
asciilifeform ^ for weavers, not knitters, but the concept is perhaps the birth of programmed machine [22:40]
asciilifeform unless one counts music boxes [22:40]
BingoBoingo I'd count both. In my private definition of programable machine I include clocks [22:41]
mircea_popescu it's somewhere at the confluence of "the better typewriter" with "the better pattern loom" and "the better phone switcher" [22:41]
mircea_popescu which indeed looked from here seem convergent pursuits. [22:42]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: from Daryush's latest venture http://www.reaxxion.com/2056/nintendo-an-unlikely-anti-sjw-hero [22:43]
assbot Nintendo: An Unlikely Anti-SJW Hero – Reaxxion ... ( http://bit.ly/1yKRCrm ) [22:43]
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asciilifeform http://motherboard.vice.com/read/an-obviously-fake-guide-to-building-an-h-bomb-was-used-to-legitimize-torture << mega-lol [22:46]
assbot An Obviously Fake Guide to Building an H-Bomb Was Used to Legitimize Torture | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1yKS5dd ) [22:46]
mircea_popescu hey, the protocols of sion thing was used to legitimize the reich [22:47]
asciilifeform 'Unlike the powder form, the liquid packets have indistinct borders and can therefore resemble regular bowel content. That means a suspected drug mule would have to be processed all the way through to a CT scan' (from same site) [22:47]
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mircea_popescu why would the us behave differently from its spiritual parent, hitler's national socialist state ? [22:48]
asciilifeform spiritual child. [22:48]
mircea_popescu mnope. [22:48]
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mircea_popescu "Men created most of what is good about the world. The excesses of masculinity are also, to be sure, responsible for much of what is bad. But if we are to avoid sliding into decline, mediocrity and a world in which men are actively discriminated against, we must arrest the decline in social attitudes towards them before so many victims are claimed that all hope of reconciliation between the sexes is lost. If that happe [22:51]
mircea_popescu ns, it will be women who will suffer." [22:51]
mircea_popescu check it out, an english speaker somewhere realises that female societies intrinsically suck ?! [22:51]
mircea_popescu iiiincredible. [22:51]
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I'm honestly surprised there aren't more cases arising that cite that one John Lithgow movie. I mean in that case Mathew Broderick forgot to build any lens into his excavator. [22:54]
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BingoBoingo http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/dec/03/privacy-advocates-unmask-twitter-troll [23:28]
assbot Privacy advocates unmask Twitter troll | Technology | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1DpPUP5 ) [23:28]
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BingoBoingo http://blog.erratasec.com/2014/11/the-pando-tor-conspiracy-troll.html [23:29]
assbot Errata Security: The Pando Tor conspiracy troll ... ( http://bit.ly/1DpQk87 ) [23:29]
BingoBoingo More on GawkerGate http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/media/2014/12/8558320/gawker-discusses-cost-gamergate [23:32]
assbot Gawker discusses cost of 'gamergate' | Capital New York ... ( http://bit.ly/1DpQNHi ) [23:32]
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BingoBoingo So much Gawker implosion [23:36]
decimation if usg is the spiritual child of the nazi regime, why are they friendly with the invasion of the third world masses? [23:46]
BingoBoingo "The fact is that I would like to end my career as a behind-the-scenes powerbroker, a Deng Xiaoping of Gawker Media, exerting discreet influence through obscure committees." -Nick Denton [23:47]
mircea_popescu cause they delude themselves with this theory that you know, they're assimilating everyone. [23:47]
decimation yeah there might be something to that. They are so super-'aryan' that they are able to import infinite little brown brothers without possibly threatening their own strength [23:50]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well Hungarian homosexuals can have imaginations too. [23:51]
BingoBoingo "Heather will be my deputy. She’s perfect for this, a much better official representative of the company than a half-Hungarian homosexual could ever be." - Nick Denton [23:51]
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BingoBoingo "And for obvious reasons I have never been comfortable in a company dominated by territorial men. I hope I have made space for others who don’t fit the mould. And I pray that my information networks are still good enough to identify those leaders too busy being capable to promote themselves. At Gawker, despite the reputation of our journalism, nice guys finish first. And women." -Nick Denton [23:53]
decimation lol what a rube [23:54]
BingoBoingo decimation: He had a niche. [23:55]
decimation what was gawker's rank on the meatclick charts? [23:55]
BingoBoingo He had money and instead of doing the Paul Graham get bought as fast as possible thing, he built himself a playground. [23:56]
BingoBoingo decimation: Dunno. Gizmodo/Lifehacker/Deadspin seem to keep the rest of the empire afloat. That and those New York librerals now take ad dollars from high end firearms manufacterers like Weatherby and Hornaday: http://indefinitelywild.gizmodo.com/how-math-makes-smaller-bullets-deadlier-1627307057 [23:59]
assbot The Simple Math of Why Smaller Bullets Are Deadlier ... ( http://bit.ly/1DpWeGk ) [23:59]
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