Forum logs for 18 Sep 2019
| feedbot: | http://bingology.net/2019/09/18/expoprado-at-rural-de-prado-an-exhibition-of-uruguays-agricultural-supremacy/ << Bingology - BingoBoingo's Blog -- ExpoPrado At Rural de Prado: An Exhibition Of Uruguay's Agricultural Supremacy | [01:03] |
| feedbot: | http://pizarroisp.net/2019/09/18/pizarro-isp-august-2019-report/ << PizarroISP -- Pizarro ISP August 2019 Report | [01:03] |
| BingoBoingo: | mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/latino-perspectives/#footnote_0_59930 << May be the wanna be NY tower story | [01:21] |
| feedbot: | http://ossasepia.com/2019/09/18/the-pageboys-pledge/ << Ossa Sepia -- The Pageboy's Pledge | [07:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | BingoBoingo, nope, not that either. | [11:09] |
| mircea_popescu: | holy hell, there's a lot of these from argentina, who even knew. | [11:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | and i'm starting to suspect i didn't even bother mentioning the exact case or something, cuz they were too many ? | [11:10] |
| mircea_popescu: | o btw, hey billymg ! you still around ? | [11:10] |
| feedbot: | http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-chicago-tea-party-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thelastpsychiatrist.com - Chicago Tea Party. Adnotated. | [11:17] |
| feedbot: | http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-child-rapist-murderer-john-couey-loses-by-eight-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thelastpsychiatrist.com - Child Rapist-Murderer John Couey Loses By Eight. Adnotated. | [11:30] |
| hanbot: | http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-17#1937112 << gah, it was about that "art space" thing by la florida with the two roof towers, i remember that...but not the specific piece. | [12:14] |
| snsabot: | Logged on 2019-09-17 16:17:56 mircea_popescu: hey hanbot where on trilema is that piece re the argentine retards with ~same problem ? | [12:14] |
| mircea_popescu: | well... i aint going diging through the story of argentina, i'll just get pissed off. fucking morons. | [12:15] |
| hanbot: | i was gonna say, could grep "argentines" and spend a while getting enraged...lol | [12:15] |
| feedbot: | http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-children-with-adhd-drugs-score-higher-on-tests-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thelastpsychiatrist.com - Children With ADHD Drugs Score Higher on Tests. Adnotated. | [12:44] |
| diana_coman: | trinque: deedbot fell down ~5 hours ago. | [12:59] |
| feedbot: | http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-china-needs-more-tvs-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thelastpsychiatrist.com - China Needs More TVs. Adnotated. | [13:31] |
| mircea_popescu: | aand that's five articles today. | [14:55] |
| mircea_popescu: | sadly, tlp doesn't improve / | [14:55] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: the last 1 particularly egregious. wai would a ~thinking fella specifically address his worx to the most abject ameritards ?! | [14:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | i expect it's cancer of the education gland. | [14:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | let's put i this way : universally and without exception the most abject of all humans are children. this is what "retard" addresses : a state of abject misery that ~IS EXCUSED~ in children because nature imposes but ONLY IN CHILDREN YOUNG ENOUGH. as thy age -- no longer excused. | [14:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | now, for their sins, women are born with special glands, supporting the evolution of children away from the abjection they were born in. | [14:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | some of these glands are physically found on their chests. the males -- also have, vestigial version, because you know, evoloved-not-engineered, was cheaper that way. | [14:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | THERE ARE MORE SUCH GLANDS. women have the tolerant, cvasi bovine capacity to talk to small children. | [14:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | men, also have some kind of vestigial this. the practice of its use is called "education" | [14:59] |
| mircea_popescu: | and it can get cancer, like any other gland. | [15:00] |
| mircea_popescu: | like with all cancers, environmental toxin exposure is a major risk. so you could say he got education gland cancer from living in pollution. | [15:01] |
| diana_coman: | lolz, I have yet to see bovines talking to children. | [15:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | cvasi-bovine because like the ox will plow the field, so will the woman repeat all the words in the dictionary fifty times, so they kid can learn them | [15:04] |
| mircea_popescu: | my systematically dismissive "you dont know X, go read up on it" works on... well, undergrads. in junior high however, the style's inadequate. | [15:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | what's needed in jr high is "i told you yesterday, and i'm telling you today, and i will tell you until you learn it : the panties AFTER the garter belt the garter belt BEFORe the panties". | [15:05] |
| mircea_popescu: | and it has to be done ~calmly~. otherwise the kids go mad. | [15:07] |
| mircea_popescu: | gotta not seem to care that's why it seems bovine. | [15:07] |
| diana_coman: | uhm do you basically say that junior high "learning" is simply circus-like training and trainers are by nature cvasi-bovine (or otherwise ineffectual)? | [15:12] |
| feedbot: | http://trilema.com/2019/thelastpsychiatristcom-china-needs-fewer-tvs-or-a-billion-of-them-adnotated/ << Trilema -- thelastpsychiatrist.com - China Needs Fewer TVs, Or A Billion Of Them. Adnotated. | [15:12] |
| mircea_popescu: | yes, i suppose that's what i'm saying : that children are by their nature closer to animals than people and that the people taking them across perforce spend their time dealing with animals, and therefore they'll be covered in shit. | [15:13] |
| mircea_popescu: | however they manage to survive this trauma, by "Seeing past it" or "tolerating it well" or whatever -- the impression they'll make is "of someone who doesn't mind the shit so much". | [15:14] |
| diana_coman: | well, I don't know really for one thing the "impression they make" is really a matter of the viewer and his impression so sure, it's consistent with one lens so why not, certainly. | [15:18] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah, of course tis in the eye of the beholder. | [15:19] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: so , model of tlp, as sort of st. francis preaching to the birds ? | [15:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform, seems the best possible construction available. | [15:19] |
| * asciilifeform | buys. | [15:19] |
| mircea_popescu: | uhttp://trilema.com/2019/uccellacci-e-uccellini/ | [15:19] |
| diana_coman: | for the other, I don't know that they learn just because they heard it enough times it might be that they need to hear it several times, yes, but they would just the same if they simply encountered it that many times | [15:20] |
| diana_coman: | anyway, tlp is barely readable for sure | [15:20] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu in fact annotated already 10x moar tlp than asciilifeform was even able to swallow when read decade ago | [15:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | i doubt it. honestly, i think the breast is an exceptionally illustrative parallel. obviously, not all children will thrive if breastfed and obviously "could thrive if just found milk in environment" | [15:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | but these seem rather theoretical constructs than practical considerations. as a factual matter, there's signifciant interplay between the child and the breast. | [15:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | breastfeeding drives a lot of immunity response, for instance. this is no small matter, if one looks at things by complexity rather than by some abbreviated "works for me" criteria. | [15:22] |
| asciilifeform: | re vestigial glands, incidentally, see also this vintage bit | [15:23] |
| snsabot: | Logged on 2017-07-17 15:29:30 a111: Logged on 2014-12-08 17:41 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://yarchive.net/med/social_osteoporosis.html << related hypothesis | [15:23] |
| mircea_popescu: | afaik the "woman and man are different, for the former bone exists as calcium warehouse, for the latter bone exists as muscle leverage" is not even controversial. | [15:23] |
| diana_coman: | mircea_popescu: yes what I don't see is junior high learning ~= baby level | [15:24] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman, i used the junior high as the outer bounds of "baby" | [15:24] |
| diana_coman: | sure, it's not just the repetition ie "it would be enough if a machine repeated it on a loop" | [15:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | and "undergraduate" as the inner bounds of "adult" or w/e it is the traditional university approach to work. | [15:25] |
| diana_coman: | hm | [15:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah yes, repetition per se definitely not even remotely it. | [15:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | children are (often infuriatingly, generally disavowedly) quite as capable as adults to disentangle emotional cues. | [15:26] |
| mircea_popescu: | but then again, arguably so are horses. | [15:27] |
| diana_coman: | the core of it as I see it (and matching btw the breast + gender difference) is that they are not yet able to act independently (in this case: independent learning , hence yes, if you just send them to read, it won't do much) | [15:27] |
| diana_coman: | but dunno, are you calling *all* giving support cvasi-bovine? | [15:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | yes, we could say the brain's not yet structured enough to self manage all that well, recursion drops quickly. | [15:27] |
| * asciilifeform | sees ideal of university education as moar of a decockroaching rather than continuation of kindergarten 'learn through repetition' | [15:27] |
| snsabot: | Logged on 2017-04-07 14:24:31 mircea_popescu: no, let's also de-equivocate think. there's two kinds of think, one's a forge/reflow/examination of trees resulting in analytical consumption of inputs with actionable outputs guaranteed the other is a neurotic behaviour perhaps best described as spinning, whereby specific emotional triggers / detriggers are visited in succession. the prussian model was never concerned with the former in any sense, but merely | [15:27] |
| mircea_popescu: | diana_coman, has little to do with the support all activity that proceeds irrespective of results is what the ox does. | [15:29] |
| diana_coman: | uhm I suppose I don't see this irrespective of results fwiw, not even breast "proceeds irrespective of results" if you think that it adapts supply if nothing else | [15:31] |
| asciilifeform: | breast famously (if poorly documentedly) comes with a 'if defective then 'forget' to feed it' exception handler | [15:32] |
| diana_coman: | well yeah, it actually comes with a lot of "if x then y" but the supply is just the most obvious & well documented. | [15:33] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform, afaik the only standing paradigm of university is still socrates', "and now i will tell you why you are wrong" and you are stuck re-doing until right. | [15:39] |
| asciilifeform: | aha, redoing | [15:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | i suppose this is veering towards a discussion of mastitis... | [15:39] |
| diana_coman: | lolz | [15:39] |
| mircea_popescu: | but i also suppose perhaps implicit negative connotation associated to the animal's involved. | [15:40] |
| mircea_popescu: | the term's not used derrogatorily but ambiguously consider similar in "He's a taurine sort" | [15:41] |
| asciilifeform: | mircea_popescu: aha! i never understood why 'negative associations with bull'. the ancients worshipped the bull, the cow. critter feeds man, moar than dog ever was able | [15:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | asciilifeform, because they earn to derealize. there's little more real than the ox. | [15:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | they yearn* | [15:43] |
| mircea_popescu: | in any case : it is notoriously difficult to evaluate small children and eminently unwise, evaluation should start later. someone's gotta feed all the children until old enough to be killed or not. | [15:44] |
| mircea_popescu: | the capacity to do this exists in humans necessarily like any capacity it is also capable of dysfunction as part and parcel of being capable of function. | [15:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | this pretty much brings us full circle. | [15:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | meanwhile in "whisperers" historical idiocy : woman is known as le Bel Ange Nu, supposedly because went about ~naked. no fucking paintings survive documenting the theory. idiots. | [15:57] |
| feedbot: | http://thetarpit.org/posts/y06/0a1-kavarna.html << The Tar Pit -- nu-i | [16:01] |
| asciilifeform: | ^ a+++ nostalgia fuel, spyked | [16:05] |
| lobbes: | holy shit, those were some beautiful shots spyked | [16:13] |
| asciilifeform: | meanwhile, phf's site appears to have fallen down. i.e. only access to era1 l0gz is nao by hand. | [16:49] |
| * mircea_popescu | watched chapelle's new show. | [18:42] |
| mircea_popescu: | pretty shitty. | [18:42] |
| BingoBoingo: | mircea_popescu: Hey, WAPO ran a piece this week celebrating "How much funnier we have become." The cancerous faggot held up 70's socialist propaganda "Sesame Street" as his straw puppets. | [18:45] |
| mircea_popescu: | eh you kidding me, 3rd rate corporate orientation videos of the 90s were funnier than that netflix special | [18:46] |
| mircea_popescu: | whatever, the pravda's coming up next with "how much prosperouser we have become", to match the history of soviet decay exactly. | [18:46] |
| BingoBoingo: | I have not seen the new Chapelle. | [18:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | meanwhike * * * "GET /2016/to-the-dao-and-the-ethereum-community-fuck-you/ HTTP/1.1" 200 185133 "https://twitter.com/@dan_pantera" "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh Intel Mac OS X 10.12 rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0" | [18:47] |
| mircea_popescu: | niggas be still pretendin' on all the scores. | [18:48] |
| asciilifeform: | iirc mircea_popescu had a piece devoted to this particular lolcow ( but can't seem to find in o(1)... ) | [18:56] |
| mircea_popescu: | no ? | [18:57] |
| mircea_popescu: | just some derpy frisco outfit, "pantera capital" | [18:57] |
| asciilifeform: | hm. possibly i dreamed it | [18:58] |
| mircea_popescu: | they are eminently forgettable, so perhaps i just forgot avout it. | [18:58] |
| asciilifeform: | ( maybe was in era1 l0gz. the d00d ran a shitcoin of some description. and asciilifeform is certain that he found out about it from trilema or l0gz, as he dun read shitcoinism straight from atmosphere ) | [18:59] |
| BingoBoingo: | asciilifeform: http://qntra.net/2014/12/changetip-raises-3-5-million-lead-by-pantera-capital/ They did the Changetip spambot | [19:00] |
| asciilifeform: | aa! ty BingoBoingo | [19:00] |
| asciilifeform: | http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-09-18#1937258 << >> http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2018-08-08#1840303 | [19:02] |
| snsabot: | Logged on 2019-09-18 15:28:58 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Hey, WAPO ran a piece this week celebrating "How much funnier we have become." The cancerous faggot held up 70's socialist propaganda "Sesame Street" as his straw puppets. | [19:02] |
| snsabot: | Logged on 2018-08-08 10:17:37 asciilifeform: based, of course, on the famous 'Жить стало лучше, жить стало веселей!' (tm)(r)(stalin) | [19:02] |
| asciilifeform: | and meanwhile asciilifeform's local saduniversity institutes mandatory vegetarian menu in the barracks cafeteria . | [19:04] |
| feedbot: | http://qntra.net/2019/09/usg-sues-to-prevent-snowden-from-making-money-on-book/ << Qntra -- USG Sues To Prevent Snowden From Making Money On Book | [19:09] |
| asciilifeform: | a++ spamarketing. (waithefuq is 'his' b00k in english ??) | [19:09] |
| diana_coman: | !!up mountain_billy | [19:21] |
| diana_coman: | ugh, still no deedbot | [19:21] |
| mircea_popescu: | tsk | [19:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | hey trinque | [19:25] |
| diana_coman: | apparently mountain_billy is billymg , travelling and away from terminal | [19:25] |
| mircea_popescu: | ah! | [19:25] |
| * mircea_popescu | shall say what had in mind on man's blog | [19:26] |
| * mircea_popescu | also never realised before that billymg actually stands for "Billy, Mountain Goat". | [19:28] |
| diana_coman: | :D I was thinking mountain_goat all the time | [19:29] |
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