Forum logs for 15 Jun 2017

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
trinque: I've disappeared down a hole of "right wing" meme'd up twatter [00:03]
trinque: what is this [00:03]
trinque: this animator chick looks like skanks I used to drink with in portland [00:09]
trinque: I approve of this movement. [00:09]
mircea_popescu: so buy her a drink [00:09]
trinque: no skank is worth pennsylvania [00:10]
mircea_popescu: no skank is bolted down, either. [00:10]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> no skank is bolted down, either. << of all things, this having not been done by mp irl surprises me. It's not like bolts are permanent. Not like welding them down [00:35]
* asciilifeform wishes only to achieve even small piece of what $subj achieved before dead [00:36]
mircea_popescu: meh, makes a mess [00:37]
BingoBoingo: It's not like you gotta bolt the meat. Cuff the meat, bolt the cuffs. [00:38]
mircea_popescu: well, that i've done plenty eh. [00:39]
mircea_popescu: definitionally what a dungeon is neh [00:39]
BingoBoingo: AHA, hence my surprise [00:39]
shinohai: <<< Shinohai's shitty trading pair of the week (tm) (r) [05:54]
deedbot: << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1465459459517330657028932233425 divides RSA Moduli belonging to 'Martin Weinelt <> Martin Weinelt <> Martin Weinelt <> Martin Weinelt (BP DART-Racing WS2010/11) <> ' [07:48]
asciilifeform: !~ticker [08:36]
jhvh1: asciilifeform: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 2314.3, Best ask: 2316.2, Bid-ask spread: 1.90000, Last trade: 2316.0, 24 hour volume: 53787.68533689, 24 hour low: 2103.1, 24 hour high: 2654.4, 24 hour vwap: None [08:36]
asciilifeform: in recent lulz, >> hilariously draconian 'money laundering' ban proposed in usg [08:37]
asciilifeform: aka, possibly, 'the cokemachine act' [08:39]
* mircea_popescu just picked up a phone for the first time in what must be about five years. [10:28]
mircea_popescu: i tell you it's kinda weird, that moment when you don't know who the fuck is calling and what they want. [10:29]
BingoBoingo: Oh, who was their daddy and what do they do? [10:38]
mircea_popescu: random administrative thing. very happy/scared to hear me of all people [10:38]
BingoBoingo: Oh my! [10:38]
BingoBoingo: "I read the coal-burning article, and I am ashamed to tell you that Szabo, who was ultimately killed by his misinformed white guilt, is of Hungarian descent as far as his name goes" << From the comments on [10:39]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know this weird lsd shit isn't actually bad, visually ? or aurally for that matter. [10:39]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what, "just liek soros" ? [10:39]
BingoBoingo: lol, aha. Apparently Szabo hitting people's bozo meter is beginning to be found in the wild [10:40]
mircea_popescu: wtf is this "white guilt" bs, also. [10:40]
mircea_popescu: it's like fat people coming up with "walk guilt" to explain why they ain't getting out of bed. notwithstanding "they're perfectly healthy, can even stand!!11" [10:41]
mircea_popescu: "o dude i just think of all the celenterates, oysters and snails and things and it's just too overwhelming. damned negros DON'T EVEN HAVE LEGS!" [10:41]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile on the boston thurf, an oyster was eating a woman right out of her plate. [10:42]
BingoBoingo: OH, apparently different szabo "Take the late Brian Szabo for example. Brian Szabo, originally from Ohio, and formerly residing in Richmond, Virginia, was an executive with SunTrust bank. Considering the subject of this article, you’ll find it ironic that his title with SunTrust was “Vice President for Corporate Operational Risk.”" [10:42]
BingoBoingo: From [10:43]
BingoBoingo: "In addition, who invites a guy who had no job or family ties and whose only source of income was a mental disability stipend into your home? Nigel Walker, a gud boi who dindu nuffin, was essentially an adopted pet of the Szabo family and, in turn, he brutally stabbed the late Brian Szabo in the neck. Police found Szabo in a pool of his own blood in his posh West End neighborhood home. " [10:44]
mircea_popescu: dude what is with this djb-ing sexually ambiguous 20something street urchins [10:44]
mircea_popescu: are these people LOOKING for a way to fuck up ? [10:44]
mircea_popescu: this is what they do instead of coming here. fucktards. [10:46]
mircea_popescu: !!rate szabo -10 "you'll die as you lived, in a flash of the blade, a fucktard remembered by no-one..." [10:46]
deedbot: szabo is not registered in WoT. [10:46]
mircea_popescu: obviously. [10:46]
BingoBoingo: Well, wha can the daiper do in the trash can except complain the candy wrapper next to it is sticky [10:46]
mircea_popescu: "can't have slavegirls like proper white males, on their knees naked, that'd be too... you know, like right, and proper. no, no, must invite random twink to rule the posh bullshit etcetera" [10:50]
mircea_popescu: mp's questionnaire is growing. "are you living in a retired low level us-politruk / inteligentsia zone ?" "do you live with some punk pet you picked off the street ?" [10:51]
mircea_popescu: remarkably how well it covers the "republic's allies" that aren't either of the republic or its allies. [10:52]
mircea_popescu: it's almost as if all these idiots saw a clockwork orange, and decided "yes, that is what i wish to do with my life! i wanna be THAT loser!" [10:52]
trinque: bahaha, entirely the formula for the 4chan nazi thing. "this was the most transgressive thing I could find. no es un pais pobre!" [10:54]
mircea_popescu: hm ? [10:56]
trinque: that chick that made the psychedelic dog video claims to be a nazi. [10:56]
trinque: presumably of the variety [10:56]
mircea_popescu: oh. [10:57]
mircea_popescu: 3rd wave nazis and 6th wave feminists duke it out in the dream machine! [10:57]
asciilifeform: << marieantoinetting [10:59]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-15 14:44 mircea_popescu: dude what is with this djb-ing sexually ambiguous 20something street urchins [10:59]
mircea_popescu: i guess. [10:59]
asciilifeform: miniaturized version of, whoever, billgates's 'i'm not a marauding piece of shit, i'm a PHILANTHROPIST!111' [11:00]
mircea_popescu: i dunno dood, nobody buys it. [11:00]
mircea_popescu: just a perverse old man with weird hangups. [11:00]
asciilifeform: it isn't connected to a feedbacktron [11:00]
asciilifeform: dun matter whether anyone buys. [11:00]
mircea_popescu: i thought it was entirely for "look in the mirror" narcisiac purposes. [11:01]
asciilifeform: orlol had an old piece re 'philanthropy' being part of decomposition/putrefaction process [11:01]
asciilifeform: where the wealth a koschei sucks up during life, begins to splurt out [11:01]
mircea_popescu: obviously is. there is ONE WAY to do resource allocation, and if it's not used what you got is socialist rot. [11:01]
asciilifeform: sooo, hypothesis here could be, that you dun need to be rockefeller to undergo this form of putrefaction: under the right conditions, 'middle class' derps also could. [11:02]
mircea_popescu: seems that their answer to "my god, we built fucking korea, our kids would rather hang themselves than come back home and therer's absolutely nothing to buy" is to take in a retard for a cat. [11:03]
asciilifeform: same reason they did the 'free the slaves' thing [11:03]
asciilifeform: 'captive audience of guaranteed gratefuls' notion. [11:03]
mircea_popescu: oh that's what it is. [11:04]
mircea_popescu: well no fucking wonder they're stabbing them in the fucking eyes, jhesus [11:04]
mircea_popescu: it's a wonder they don't also urinate on the writhing cadaver. [11:04]
asciilifeform: same reason why the old slaves are lafonding them in the eye [11:04]
asciilifeform: to this day [11:04]
mircea_popescu: world makes perfect sense to me now. [11:04]
mircea_popescu: "oh, if i do this, people will have to like me!" wtf nonsense. [11:05]
asciilifeform: iirc most of this was on trilema already. [11:05]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i guess it was. [11:05]
mircea_popescu: reason people write things is so others read the things back to them, huh. [11:05]
asciilifeform: possibly. [11:06]
trinque: pretty common american 80s movie trope, right? "ends up liked! the end." [11:06]
mircea_popescu: it's even in seinfeld. "i'd have all this money and people would love me" george costanza daydreaming of philantrophy. [11:06]
mircea_popescu: philatrophy* [11:06]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: incidentally reading the djb thing left asciilifeform with impression that $derp could also have been part of a 'cuck' scenario [11:07]
mircea_popescu: from experience, that sort of thing is decided by the woman declaring, not by looks. [11:07]
asciilifeform: ( djb lives with one of his coauthors -- unofficial wife of sorts ) [11:07]
mircea_popescu: trinque i guess it is at that. [11:09]
asciilifeform: entirely possible that the man lives 'under the heel', like, e.g., saharov [11:09]
mircea_popescu: sure it's possible, but i'm telling you, "how it looks" is a terrible heuristic. [11:09]
asciilifeform: hey all i got here is this'ere light from 50 lightyears off.. [11:10]
mircea_popescu: yes well, if girl attempts to make carrot cake with "All i got here are these potatoes" she gets in trouble. [11:10]
mircea_popescu: aaand in other news, who wants to wire 2.5k for me ? [11:16]
mircea_popescu: !!up daffadil [11:37]
deedbot: daffadil voiced for 30 minutes. [11:37]
shinohai: Welcome daffadil [11:42]
daffadil: Thank you shinohai [11:43]
daffadil: !!register [11:43]
deedbot: B4338076C48E09C37C900F28D73BBEDFECE35DD4 registered as daffadil. [11:43]
mircea_popescu: o hey. who might you be ? [11:43]
daffadil: I was recommended here by Gabe Laddel [11:44]
daffadil: Currently learning the ropes and reading [11:44]
mircea_popescu: a cool. [11:44]
daffadil: I am a biology/artist/human [11:44]
mircea_popescu: well, say if you have questions. [11:44]
mircea_popescu: !!rate daffadil 1 biology/artist/human [11:45]
deedbot: Get your OTP: [11:45]
daffadil: Will do ~ [11:45]
mircea_popescu: !!v DC975E8D241C6A5C3FBFC9B19269498161CC014D43585A24FE8D45CA390AF874 [11:45]
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated daffadil 1 << biology/artist/human [11:45]
shinohai: Any examples of thy art daffadil ? [11:46]
daffadil: Sure...... [11:46]
shinohai: Fractal surrealism [11:48]
daffadil: Hehe, something like that ~~ [11:51]
daffadil: don't understand the "Get your OTP" message from deedbot, whose key encrypted it? [11:57]
mircea_popescu: you encrypt to a key. in this case yours. [11:58]
shinohai: See also [11:58]
daffadil: Ok thanks. [11:59]
mircea_popescu: daffadil oh i misunderstood what you were asking. i gave deedbot an order, and to verify my identity it encrypted something to my key. that string in !!v [12:03]
daffadil: +mircea_popescu so I don't need to do anything with that deedbot OTP message? [12:06]
mircea_popescu: no. it was for me. [12:06]
daffadil: Ok.....many interesting features and I am enjoying being enfolded within them...... [12:06]
mircea_popescu: takes a while to get to the bottom of it [12:07]
mircea_popescu: daffadil say !!up to it in a private message [12:08]
phf: mircea_popescu: do romanians eat buckwheat? [12:19]
phf: i cook it at the office from time to time, and every time i get "wtf" reactions, and not just from the infidels, but from eastern europeans too. slovenian (slovak?) girl at the office was very confused by it, what is it? how do you eat it? why do you eat it? [12:21]
asciilifeform: phf: i had to teach pet to make it [12:21]
asciilifeform: afaik nobody in usa eats any such thing as манная каша [12:21]
phf: "baby you want me to cook you some GRECHKA!!1" [12:22]
asciilifeform: lel [12:22]
asciilifeform: iirc jurov is a slovak . hey jurov , do you folx eat buckwheat ? [12:23]
* shinohai loves buckwheat pancakes [12:24]
mircea_popescu: phf old style romanians do, yeah. [12:26]
mircea_popescu: afaik casha was a very ... jewish retirement home thing in the us, limited to east coast. [12:26]
phf: i think ashkenazim might've brought it to u.s. as "kasha", i.e. explicitly buckwheat porridge, rather than porridge in general [12:27]
phf: ha [12:27]
mircea_popescu: right. [12:27]
mircea_popescu: i also didn't know non-ukr russkis eat it :D [12:27]
mircea_popescu: do you salo also ? [12:27]
asciilifeform: pretty sure you need direct access to the pig to get salo in usa [12:27]
mircea_popescu: hey, in ro too, if you won't eat crap. [12:29]
mircea_popescu: !!up daffadil [12:29]
deedbot: daffadil voiced for 30 minutes. [12:29]
phf: yeah, my mother's line is a mongrel lemki, ashkenazi and polish, so i grew up on a yushka, salo, holubtsi, but also like chopped liver, goulash, knish, etc. [12:32]
mircea_popescu: i love slanina. properly smoked and with proper ro 52proof shine... o ya [12:33]
mircea_popescu: impossible to get outside of traditional transylvanian farm tho, in my exp [12:33]
phf: there's a faux butcher shop in georgetown that sells various eastern european meets at premium, but i doubt the quality. their salo is questionable. my mom is working on a project in ukrain at the moment, so she's been sending photos of vodka carafe & large slabs of salo [12:56]
phf: [12:58]
mircea_popescu: o, photos help / [13:02]
asciilifeform: >>> apparently it's back.. [13:50]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-14 04:19 BingoBoingo: Well it shouldn't have been so fat. Nao it's got butterbrain. [13:50]
asciilifeform: ( e.g. finds 8 nodes ) [13:50]
asciilifeform: !!up eplogos [13:51]
deedbot: eplogos voiced for 30 minutes. [13:51]
asciilifeform: aaand nao for something compleeetly different , in archaeology of dead cultures : [14:02]
lobbes: << amusingly, this is great for pharma-coin though 1) sell the "ourdemocracy you-are-worth-it-and-can-do-anything" message, 2) create populace of people that end up 'depressed' and feeling 'unfulfilled' because they are fulfilling their natural role as non-human, but told otherwise, 3) extract $>sustenance in form of 'anti-depression' drugz [14:24]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-14 15:27 mircea_popescu: and the whole story of "oh, 1800 style squalor and poverty and five points erradicated!!! great ourdemocracy progress!!!" is really just very caked on masking upon the base fact that "we redirected all resources away from fun, so that now there's nothing to do but wait to die a la [14:24]
* lobbes starting to grok how bone-fide slavery is actually the 'more humane' model [14:24]
mircea_popescu: lobbes o ya. [14:24]
asciilifeform: lobbes: dr. mengele was a saint and humanitarian compared to the folx presently in the saddle, aha [14:25]
mircea_popescu: lobbes the whole thing revolves around the valuation of lying. for the people that judge lying as a primum malum, proper slavery is the more humane model. for the people who judge lying as the primum bonum, the us/su nonsense is the more humane model. [14:25]
mircea_popescu: in the end the question comes down to, do you feel like a man, or do you feel like a woman ? just don't lie to me or lie to me prettily ? [14:26]
lobbes: makes sense [14:27]
trinque: all the insanity around "identifying as" points directly to it. most folks *cannot* form an identity outside being told what they are. having been told incoherent nonsense, little wonder the starving creatures flail for control of the mechanism [14:27]
mircea_popescu: and this is not ideology, but biology. if you have a sexuate species, then THEREFORE you will have a female (defined as, carrying the burden to term). [14:28]
trinque: the drugs are in that sense the same as the "I am a pony", both towards a feeling [14:28]
mircea_popescu: as you've made this a biological necessity by your "sexuate" idea, it then follows that about half the population will enjoy the passive benefit of the other half being fucked over. as in, bars wouild be a lot fuller and service a lot crappier if women also crowded them. [14:28]
mircea_popescu: and therefore, the female will want to be lied to prettily. because lied to she will be, and she knows this. there's no way to window dress the cost of sexuate reproduction into anything else. though they try. [14:29]
mircea_popescu: and so... [14:29]
trinque: puts the female behaviors in context. "I'm going to be parasitized as a matter of course, better fatten up, hide, etc" [14:32]
mircea_popescu: ayup. [14:32]
mircea_popescu: things make perfect sense once one stops trying to lie about what they are. [14:33]
mircea_popescu: and it's a significant cost, at that. the A grade baby is at birth three kilograms worth about 8 calories per gram, plus a metabolic average of about 650 calories a day over its forty week womb life. [14:38]
mircea_popescu: comes to a whole lotta bison. [14:38]
mircea_popescu: add to this the grandiose benefit of you know, i sit around all day while girls work their ass off at the gym three times a week, yet my ass is still firmer and i can lift them and throw them because hey, fuck you for hoping. [14:42]
mircea_popescu: and teh picture is pretty clear. [14:42]
asciilifeform: !~calc 40 * 7 * 650 * 4184 / ( 34.2 * 10**6 ) [14:44]
jhvh1: asciilifeform: 40 * 7 * 650 * 4184 / ( 34.2 * 10**6 ) = 22.265730994152047 [14:44]
asciilifeform: litres of petrol [14:44]
mircea_popescu: ya but... what petrol lol [14:44]
mircea_popescu: at thye time all this is relevantly going on, a sharpened stick goes on the open market for fifty two plain sticks. [14:44]
asciilifeform: no but to put 'mega-energy-cost' in picture . [14:44]
asciilifeform: and noshit.jpg [14:44]
mircea_popescu: myeah. it is mega-cost, because hunted bison only counts about 4kcal per kg. [14:45]
mircea_popescu: more like 2.5 or so if you weigh the carcass fresh, as opposed to filleted. [14:45]
asciilifeform: aaha. but the balanced picture of 'pharma wars' etc. is 'today very different costs' [14:45]
asciilifeform: than 100k.yr. prior [14:45]
mircea_popescu: no, see, because by now it's entirely baked in the culture. [14:46]
mircea_popescu: biology doesn't care that a millisecond ago you built an oil refinery for the first time. [14:46]
asciilifeform: well yes. [14:46]
asciilifeform: it's baked into the meat. [14:46]
mircea_popescu: right. and the universe we're discussing for "change you can believe in" counts by the half million years to be generous. [14:47]
asciilifeform: hence the temptation to hotpatch the meat. [14:47]
mircea_popescu: much like the temptation to selinux. [14:47]
mircea_popescu: works about as well, too. [14:47]
asciilifeform: it's selinux when you're a cow and farmer does it ~to~ you otherwise it's misadventure (if fails) and technology (when succeeds) [14:48]
mircea_popescu: i guess. [14:49]
asciilifeform: aka daedalus vs wrightbrothers [14:49]
mircea_popescu: i want to believe. [14:49]
asciilifeform: one man's imposition is another's wet dream : [14:50]
asciilifeform: not long ago asciilifeform hit upon a www for nonj00z who want to join israeli army ! [14:51]
asciilifeform: ( spoiler : it ain't easy 0 [14:51]
asciilifeform: ) [14:51]
mircea_popescu: lol [14:51]
phf: met some of those down south [14:53]
asciilifeform: waiwat [14:53]
asciilifeform: south of waht [14:53]
phf: mason dixon line [14:53]
asciilifeform: srsly ? who and why, now i'm curious [14:53]
phf: well, i've met a handful a American Boy types who were interested in fighting on behalf of israel and defending the christian faith (???) against muslims over the past years, but it's gotten to the point where this doesn't seem to be fringe position [14:57]
asciilifeform: or possibly, alternate hypothesis : healthy boy wants to be in an army [14:58]
asciilifeform: but american army is not so hot [14:58]
mircea_popescu: serems by far the likelier [14:59]
phf: also in the last two years, as putin became a kind of presidential role model for the midwest, i think it also became a lot more acceptable to come out in support of countries that are not america, so america and its people are seen as having lost the way, etc. it went from "red scare" to "i wish putin was our president" (a phrase i've heard more than once even before the previous election cycle) [15:03]
trinque: "israel can do no wrong" is a serious item of conversation around idiot evangelical dinner tables. [15:04]
phf: this is a highly amusing reversal from a decade ago, when left was pro-russia and right anti- [15:05]
mircea_popescu: aha lol [15:05]
trinque: well bush "got a sense of the man's soul" and now he's okay. [15:06]
asciilifeform: now if only bengurion et al hadn't rm -rf / 'd the actual israel and overwritten [15:08]
phf: actually in 2005 or so, i was reading a lot of hunter thompson and first got into the whole americana thing. i spent some time at kind of dirty biker honky tonk places. my guides, on more than one occasion, warned me not to speak at all (at first, and while i'm sober anyway), so as not to alert the locals to the fact that i'm russian. i'm pretty sure that at this point at the same bars i would automatically gain an honored guest status for being russia [15:08]
phf: n. [15:08]
* asciilifeform intrigued [15:09]
trinque: << as for israel, hasn't to do with anything material. [15:11]
trinque: "end times" cult is a giant chunk of north american christianity [15:13]
mircea_popescu: xtianity generally. [15:14]
asciilifeform: atheistianity also. many, many folx wet dream of thermonukefest etc [15:19]
asciilifeform: unremarkable reaction to the intolerable shitpit they live in. [15:20]
phf: asciilifeform: you don't have to travel far, there's plenty of exotic locations nearby, particularly as you get close to appalachian ridge [15:20]
asciilifeform: phf: re hunter h. thompson << i really ~wanted~ to like him. but bounced off every time tried to read any. [15:23]
asciilifeform: d00d is simply not digestible by my enzymes, or sumthing [15:23]
asciilifeform: << curious, how many of those folx have been there even as tourist [15:26]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-15 19:04 trinque: "israel can do no wrong" is a serious item of conversation around idiot evangelical dinner tables. [15:26]
trinque: ah less than 1 ppm [15:27]
* asciilifeform has not been . and for some reason inescapably pictures it as landscape from planet arrakis from herbert's 'dune' [15:27]
trinque: doesn't matter! [15:27]
asciilifeform: complete with fremen [15:27]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is true. [15:27]
asciilifeform: the hilarious bit is that asciilifeform & co's original exit visas from su read 'israel' [15:27]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which this ? [15:29]
mircea_popescu: that "e3nd of times" is a major portion of religiodiocy since forever. [15:29]
asciilifeform: aah yes [15:30]
trinque: nothing gets the mothers fretting quite like "the bad thing will happen to all of it" [15:32]
mircea_popescu: "you'll be sorry!" [15:33]
mircea_popescu: wtf is the loser supposed to say. [15:33]
asciilifeform: quite opposite -- apocalypses are ~appealing~ [15:33]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform im pretty sure originally it was just that, "You'll be sorry" "oh yeah ? whyt ?" "THE BAD THING!!1" [15:33]
mircea_popescu: everything becomes appealing eventually, through human perversity. [15:34]
mircea_popescu: "o ya ? i there's nothing i can do about it then tell you what, ILL LIKE IT! SO THERE!" [15:34]
asciilifeform: war, especially , is appealing, modern boys hunger for it the way iron-deficient gurlz hunger for red meat [15:34]
trinque: that's not an apocalypse. [15:35]
asciilifeform: trinque: do you recall mircea_popescu's article re 'hungry man feels as if he could eat elephant, thirsty -- drink a river unfucked -- fuck a batallion of chix' etc ? [15:35]
trinque: no, but the term as used here means "the ultimate foil" [15:37]
asciilifeform: trinque: expand? [15:37]
trinque: no matter what you do, thwarted. even your war [15:37]
trinque: better sit on hands and behave! [15:37]
mircea_popescu: "rocks fall, everyone dies" [15:37]
asciilifeform: that'd be the 'female' pov re apocalypse. the 'male' : 'success, because THEY, enemy, will die' [15:37]
trinque: not taking my meaning. it means hanging out there in front of you in the future, is everything you may ever conceive of doing, already thwarted [15:38]
trinque: and it's your fault, fucker [15:38]
asciilifeform: how's it 'thwarted' if 'they-die' is exactly the thing you wanted ? [15:38]
* mircea_popescu gets popcorn. [15:39]
* asciilifeform actually has this ~exact conversation with $pet regularly : [15:39]
trinque: we were discussing what some particular end times cult's symbol "means" [15:39]
trinque: I am not prepared to redefine " [15:40]
asciilifeform: trinque: varies, neh [15:40]
trinque: apocalypse" according to asciilifeform's metaphysics [15:40]
trinque: maybe the god of web development rises and declares that none shall die until theorems can be written and proved by mashing tab [15:42]
trinque: "my whole system of meaning and context of agency is extinguished" [15:42]
asciilifeform: but soon after this, cthulhu wakes from his dream [15:42]
trinque: blorp [15:42]
asciilifeform: and gameover!11 [15:42]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the idea is that the "end of worlds" moment as found from odin to osiris is NOT a practical item, but symbolic. "everything you have burns down and nothing makes sense anymore" [15:43]
asciilifeform: probably my favourite apocalypse is ye olde nordic one, incidentally [15:43]
mircea_popescu: actually, that piece i wrote is probably fine example [15:43]
asciilifeform: where 'world will get rm -rf / and fuck all anyone could or should try an' do about it, smile that we carved a bit of sunlight out of the ice for a little while.' [15:43]
mircea_popescu: that's the idea throughout. [15:44]
mircea_popescu: it's a very... ango-ustardian notion that "judgement" shall mean someone actually passes. [15:44]
mircea_popescu: < apocalypse. [15:44]
asciilifeform: i'll admit i never liked the original of ^ [15:45]
mircea_popescu: too gay. [15:45]
asciilifeform: strong flavour of 'emo' [15:45]
asciilifeform: aha!! [15:45]
asciilifeform: trinque: my philosophical difficulty was with -- the emotional load of apocalypses is not automagically baked into the concept [15:52]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-15 19:37 trinque: better sit on hands and behave! [15:52]
asciilifeform: reaction to 'yggdrasil is rotting, serpent is gnawing, axe-time, sword-time draws near' is not automatically one thing for every reader. [15:53]
trinque: yes yes, I long for death. [15:53]
trinque: the things are universal, likely a cause and not "each snowflake had a different notion about apocalypse" [15:53]
asciilifeform: i suspect there's a handful of basic variations. [15:54]
asciilifeform: clustering around 'male' and 'female' pov as described earlier. [15:55]
jurov: if i translated buckwheat right, it's available in slovakia but not widely used, i don't remember last time i ate it [15:56]
a111: Logged on 2017-06-15 16:23 asciilifeform: iirc jurov is a slovak . hey jurov , do you folx eat buckwheat ? [15:56]
asciilifeform: 'joke's on you, schmucks who sank cycles into offspring and their idiot mothers' is one variation, for example. [15:56]
asciilifeform: jurov: so like usa. [15:56]
asciilifeform: jurov: it's sold at corner shop but to this day i have nfi what it is used for here ! [15:56]
mircea_popescu: pet rodent feed ? [16:14]
asciilifeform: hell knows [16:16]
asciilifeform: there could be something to that -- i once had mice get into the container. [16:17]
asciilifeform: prolly it's 100 octane mouse fuel. [16:17]
mircea_popescu: just about. they love the stuff. [16:20]
asciilifeform: in other lulz, 'At least 10 injured after suburban plows into pedestrians in NYC' [16:20]
mircea_popescu: !!up fffeee [16:21]
deedbot: fffeee voiced for 30 minutes. [16:21]
asciilifeform: meanwhile in the world of entomology, [16:27]
asciilifeform: 'EF changed the properties of the security it sold and still falsely advertises "unstoppable .. exactly as written" code (despite proving it false) while profiting from all of it.' [16:29]
asciilifeform: ^ somehow hasn't stopped any of the excitable monkeys [16:29]
mircea_popescu: heh [16:29]
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> d00d is simply not digestible by my enzymes, or sumthing << It's the drugz [17:37]
BingoBoingo: Same reason gabriel chaffes, just chaffing different spot on skin [17:37]
BingoBoingo: Well, brainskin [17:38]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> it's a very... ango-ustardian notion that "judgement" shall mean someone actually passes. << BUT THEY MADE IT TO THE END!!! [18:13]
mircea_popescu: heh [18:26]
BingoBoingo: Anyways, old people use buckwheat in USia as a magic totem of "pls let me shit just one more time" [18:30]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, it's supposed to rain here 4cm today and 4 more cm tonight. [18:43]
mircea_popescu: with any luck i'll be realising alf's dream of a floating house. [18:43]
BingoBoingo: That's not really so much rain [18:46]
BingoBoingo: It's those 15 cm afternoons you have to worry about. [18:47]
deedbot: << Qntra - Fake News Tries To Bury Their Culpability For Inciting Violence By Alleging Fake Criminal Investigation [18:59]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo could use a comma pre they [19:00]
deedbot: << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - The lord hath no fury like a keyboard monkey scorned, a Beschaulich vpatch saga. [21:11]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: ty fxd [21:41]
deedbot: << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1759...6257 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <> ' (Unknown KR) [21:59]
deedbot: << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1402...2229 divides RSA Moduli belonging to ' (ssh-rsa key from (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <> ' (Unknown KR) [21:59]
mod6: evenin' [23:11]
asciilifeform: heya mod6 [23:11]
mod6: how goes alf? [23:11]
asciilifeform: the usual slow grind. [23:12]
asciilifeform: and you, mod6 ? [23:12]
mod6: similar. :] [23:13]
BingoBoingo: ?Los judios son gringos? [23:56]
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