Forum logs for 15 Jun 2016

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
pete_dushenski: an hero is meeeee. (sql update on contravex is comprete). [00:04]
pete_dushenski: you guys are cool :) [00:05]
trinque: excellent article BingoBoingo [00:20]
BingoBoingo: ty trinque [00:20]
trinque: watching the "love will overcome" rhetoric flow in reaction to this, it boggles that gays are literally spouting christianity. [00:23]
trinque: the inclusive mind is a schizoid mind. [00:24]
BingoBoingo: Also the American right was half right. Sanctity of marrirage attacked, BUT from the legal side. [00:25]
* BingoBoingo thinks danielpbarron may appreciate latest qntra. [00:25]
trinque: the govt must be able to break any rules if it means "just one person" (TM) (R) avoids discomfort [00:26]
BingoBoingo: lol [00:27]
BingoBoingo: ticker --market all --currency brides [00:42]
gribble: Error: 'brides' is not a valid currency code. [00:42]
thestringpuller: later tell mod6 node is still stuck even after restart. it's wedged at 414073 [04:39]
gribble: The operation succeeded. [04:39]
thestringpuller: ^^ [04:39]
shinohai: <<<heh [10:32]
shinohai: <<oh boy [10:42]
asciilifeform: 'McAfee was appointed as chairman and CEO of MGT Capital in May, causing a brief 1,000% surge in the publicly traded company’s stocks. Formerly a fantasy sports enterprise, the firm is in the process of being rebranded as John McAfee Global Technologies, Inc following McAfee's addition to the team.' << wat. [11:07]
asciilifeform: in other idiocies, [11:07]
asciilifeform: 'On Friday, Secretary Penny Pritzker of the US Department of Commerce joined special assistant to the president for economic policy Adrienne Harris and other top White House officials for an event featuring a lecture from Brian Forde, director of digital currency initiative a the MIT Media Lab, and multiple panels on financial technology more generally speaking. Hosted at the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, the executive branch [11:08]
asciilifeform: of the US government invited "senior administration officials" and "stakeholders" from financial institutions, startups and academia for the half-day event, called the White House Fintech Summit, according to the invitation.' [11:08]
BingoBoingo: bc,stats [12:08]
gribble: Current Blocks: 416423 | Current Difficulty: 1.9606142393964996E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 417311 | Next Difficulty In: 888 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 7 hours, 8 minutes, and 56 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [12:08]
BingoBoingo: [12:09]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lame duck government. [12:14]
mircea_popescu: much more interesting is what weird marine lepen-like notions re bitcoin float about under the trump rug. [12:15]
asciilifeform: i dun see the man as having even vague chance [12:17]
mircea_popescu: he seems the favourite actually. [12:23]
mircea_popescu: anyway, nobody cares what the woman thinks. she's not liable to touch it either way, 8 more years of obama. [12:23]
asciilifeform: 888888, if they could. [12:24]
mircea_popescu: aha. [12:24]
mircea_popescu: that's the plan. [12:24]
deedbot: [Trilema] Sensitivity! Human Rights! Democracy! - [12:30]
BingoBoingo: Reddit encounters children [13:08]
asciilifeform: in other not-even-slightly-news, [13:27]
asciilifeform: [13:27]
asciilifeform: ( BingoBoingo , for instance, might find here of moar interest ) [13:27]
asciilifeform: plenty of good stuff. [13:28]
BingoBoingo: ty asciilifeform [13:28]
shinohai: [13:55]
shinohai: in a monastery yet [13:55]
BingoBoingo: From the mines: "I manage 2nd level escalations for a call center. I've trained my team to identify this type of person, and intentionally give them an inconsequential fight before agreeing. It actually leads to faster time to resolution and something like a 10% reduction in overall handle time." [13:57]
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: heh [13:58]
asciilifeform: '"He later told the nuns that police had tried to steal the money that he was trying to donate," Ritondo said. "There are dollars, yen, euros and a currency from Qatar ... It's a lot of money." He did not give an exact amount because the money was still being counted.' << l0l [14:04]
phf: asciilifeform: that's a beautiful page [14:22]
asciilifeform: sure is! [14:22]
asciilifeform: i remember when the ~whole www looked like this. [14:24]
phf: of course [14:26]
BingoBoingo: $up felipelalli [14:32]
deedbot: felipelalli voiced for 30 minutes. [14:32]
felipelalli: hi BingoBoingo! Great article. [14:32]
BingoBoingo: thank you [14:32]
mircea_popescu: shinohai the socialists (partido justicialista, kirschner's people) had been i npower for decades. the change to other group of thieves (the us-soviets, macri & co) was full of animosity as you'd expect, and now that they're in power the looting proceeds at a feverish pace. [14:55]
BingoBoingo: Looters looting looters, oh my. [14:58]
mircea_popescu: aha. [15:25]
mircea_popescu: was a thing before where they stole ~200 cars some dude was keeping in storage on his own farm in the deserted inner argentina, because "obviously" they didn't belong to him "really". [15:26]
mircea_popescu: imagine the sort of imbecile orc ruler that "saves" in fucking cars. [15:26]
BingoBoingo: seriously, storing cars in a way that they don't rot and can run when you take them out of storage is a challenge [15:27]
mircea_popescu: quite. and the pampa is very windy. [15:33]
BingoBoingo: Not like a rifle you can just stuff full of cosmoline. Car has more tubes to get cosmoline out of later. [15:37]
* BingoBoingo kind of surprised Kohler doesn't to his knowledge make rifles [15:40]
BingoBoingo: Kohler seems to do a decent job making toilets, motors, and all sorts of other tub based products. [15:41]
BingoBoingo: Que the shitgnomes [16:14]
deedbot: [Qntra] Facebook Exec: "it will be probably all video" In 5 Years - [16:33]
phf: half of the symbolics schematics are signed off by "v. popescu" [16:37]
asciilifeform: speaking of which [16:37]
asciilifeform: phf: can haz scans ? [16:37]
phf: i'm massaging them, i should be done within a month or so [16:38]
mircea_popescu: and add "invidious" to the list of terms the web can't define. [16:47]
asciilifeform: in other news, [16:48]
asciilifeform: 'BUCHAREST, Romania (AP) — A Romanian court has ruled that an investigation into the 1989 revolution where 1,104 people died can be reopened. Romania has been criticized for failing to investigate the revolution, where mainly unarmed demonstrators were shot dead around Romania from Dec. 17-30 as they protested against Communist leader Nicolae Ceausescu.' [16:48]
mircea_popescu: it doesn't mean whatever random crap google returns. invidious is the opposite of pious : when one who is inferior, instead of worshipping his superior, instead fancies himself his superior's equal. [16:48]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform guy's dead so now they can convict him, i guess. [16:48]
asciilifeform: no word re the american snipers in bucharest '89, or moscow '93, or venezuela '02, ...., ... [16:49]
mircea_popescu: they were lebanese! [16:49]
asciilifeform: lel. [16:49]
mircea_popescu: the press said at the time [16:49]
mircea_popescu: terrorists from syria and lebanon! [16:49]
asciilifeform: shooting crowd in bucharest aha. [16:49]
mircea_popescu: dun worry about it too much though, the russian assraped the us undercover folks something fierce. [16:49]
asciilifeform: how's that [16:50]
mircea_popescu: cuz they came in, with ~exact knowledge of who's who, and rolled up just about all of em. [16:51]
mircea_popescu: i doubt any of them was ever heard from again. but hey, sikrits. [16:51]
asciilifeform: somehow this did not damper the recruitment of new ones, every year, to shoot the crowd in new cities [16:52]
asciilifeform: 'we control vertical and horizontal!' (tm) (r) [16:53]
mircea_popescu: there's ~500 mn idiots without anything to do with themselves. finding a few hundred a year to do this is no particularly notable feat. [16:55]
mircea_popescu: even the broom shoots once etc. [16:55]
asciilifeform: tru. [16:56]
mircea_popescu: but otherwise, teh us foreign service is sharply divided : either work for nsa & co, for very little money doing very stupid/boring shit or else work for dea & co for as much money as you can steal, doing rather stupid exciting shit that will 28% get you killed. [16:57]
ben_vulpes: there's also lockheed martin for a notbad bundle and zero risk [16:58]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: there is also being an accountant, what of it [16:58]
mircea_popescu: you have to actually have abilities for that. [16:58]
mircea_popescu: i was discussing the sewage drains. [16:59]
ben_vulpes: << one needn't even be competent! [16:59]
mircea_popescu: i guess the only way the tits are going over time is down. [16:59]
asciilifeform: << from same rag, lulzy [17:01]
asciilifeform: 'The photo above was posted recently to JQP Facebook as a means of commenting on the exorbitant waste of the Air Force’s multiple annual gatherings of its grand poobahs. Their gatherings, nicknamed “Corona” conferences, drain money, time, focus, and manpower from an already depleted Air Force in order to swaddle the service’s generals in the comfort of Earthly deification as they absorb formal dinners and presentations adding [17:01]
asciilifeform: marginal value but inflating their already bloated sense of self-importance. In response to one of these posts, the individual’s active duty Air Force chain of command, based at Wright-Patterson, placed him under investigation, barred him from his workplace, and ordered him to cease commenting on JQP.' [17:01]
asciilifeform: ~same flavour as leonid brezhnev's big hunts. [17:02]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the best part ? "whole the USAF doesn't suspect foul play". fancy this wonder. [17:02]
mircea_popescu: "database lost" "it contained all sorts of incriminating evidence". clearly, no foul play. because this can happen now. [17:02]
ben_vulpes: right? [17:02]
ben_vulpes: tis a marvel [17:03]
asciilifeform: and backup is not a thing. [17:03]
mircea_popescu: insanity. [17:03]
ben_vulpes: well, at this time! [17:03]
mircea_popescu: and these people seriously expect to be treated differently from asphalt scrape ? why ? how ? [17:03]
ben_vulpes: they may change their mind, you see. [17:03]
mircea_popescu: "legal proceedings" ? what the ever loving fuck, go back to the trees. [17:03]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes ie, should outrage force them to get off their asses, they don't want to admit they changed course. [17:03]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform basically "we're poor and everyone else should be poor also" usian invidy ? [17:04]
ben_vulpes: the no backups thing is ultralarious [17:05]
ben_vulpes: > no backups [17:05]
ben_vulpes: > responsible for plans for 'cutting edge' us jets [17:05]
ben_vulpes: gimmeafugginbreak [17:05]
mircea_popescu: forget the plans, that's just engineering. THEY LOST THE ONLY COPY OF PROOF OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY. [17:06]
ben_vulpes: i ain't even mad anymore, just amused, and pleased at how easily the whole thing should melt apart. [17:06]
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: so they're pathetic stoolies, what of it. what else have they been for decades? [17:06]
mircea_popescu: well... let them admit it. [17:07]
ben_vulpes: they just did, to anyone with half a brain [17:07]
mircea_popescu: btw, i think this is actually rather qntrable, if you feel like it. [17:07]
ben_vulpes: unfortunately there are like 12 functioning brains wandering around north america [17:07]
ben_vulpes: hm [17:07]
mircea_popescu: yes, but that excludes themselves. let them admit it TO THEMSELVES. [17:07]
ben_vulpes: there's nobody to cane them into accepting the reality of the world. [17:08]
mircea_popescu: i guess the other point here is that no, the f-whatever ain't ever gonna fly. [17:23]
asciilifeform: it 'flies' every bit as much as every other machine. [17:23]
asciilifeform: as money furnace. [17:23]
asciilifeform: and plenty adequate for dropping rockets on sand monkeys armed with peashooter. [17:25]
mircea_popescu: just as long as the russians, the chinese and the republic each received its respective tax. [17:26]
asciilifeform: hence the resurrected 'missile shield' derpage - usg is again seeing the appeal of first strike [17:27]
mircea_popescu: let it derp all it wants, after it paid what it owes. [17:27]
asciilifeform: wake me up when it pays a cent. [17:28]
mircea_popescu: this may be the most amusing argument a taxpayer might ever present [17:30]
mircea_popescu: "your honor, i've been delinquent in my obligations, therefore i don't have them" [17:31]
asciilifeform: works great for the moneyprinter state. [17:37]
mircea_popescu: not so. so far they're paying through the nose, a good two thirds of anything their subjects consume being the usg's own contribution. [17:38]
BingoBoingo: Move to argentina [18:53]
mircea_popescu: lol @ antpool. [19:02]
BingoBoingo: What did they do nao? [19:07]
mircea_popescu: some inept drama about how they got buttraped. [19:07]
BingoBoingo: lol [19:07]
BingoBoingo: $up fiddlerwoaroof [19:12]
BingoBoingo: $up MrPPS [19:12]
deedbot: fiddlerwoaroof voiced for 30 minutes. [19:12]
deedbot: MrPPS voiced for 30 minutes. [19:12]
shinohai: ticker --market all [19:20]
gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 692.39, vol: 5749.56308949 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 670.508, vol: 4929.09341 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 694.02, vol: 34013.18123689 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 702.92856, vol: 45231.16920000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 692.606, vol: 1901.11412325 | Volume-weighted last average: 697.014766234 [19:20]
phf: << actually research done by ECL people claims that mocl is derivative of this project (via [19:24]
a111: Logged on 2016-06-07 01:28 phf: << i've used it, and the wukix people are responsive to feature requests. i think the source is a fork of one of kyoto common lisp derivatives, probably akcl. fwiw it's the same lineage as gcl and ecl, so ascii's "why not compile ecl" is entirely reasonable [19:24]
asciilifeform: in other lulz, [19:49]
asciilifeform: ( ) [19:50]
shinohai: oh the lulz in the logs today. [19:51]
mircea_popescu: i'm guessing this is good for fiat ? [19:51]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wtf, 1.doc [19:52]
mircea_popescu: ridoinculous. [19:52]
asciilifeform: nfi [19:52]
asciilifeform: 'misogynist in chief' << l0l! [19:56]
asciilifeform: 'Shut down the mechanisms used to transmit criminal profits by shutting down untraceable Internet payment schemes.' << from 'secret' doc's section on 'cyber policy' [20:02]
asciilifeform: ( ) [20:03]
mircea_popescu: is anyone qntraing the guccifer thing ? speak now else i'm gonna [20:05]
asciilifeform: fire at will [20:06]
asciilifeform: not bad idea to mirror, also. [20:07]
asciilifeform: prolly will vanish within hours. [20:07]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> is anyone qntraing the guccifer thing ? speak now else i'm gonna << I'm going to sleep. If you qntra it I'll publish upon waking [20:09]
mircea_popescu: plox hang on for half an our [20:09]
mircea_popescu: this is kinda important. [20:09]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo [20:22]
BingoBoingo: digesting [20:23]
mircea_popescu: ty. [20:26]
mircea_popescu: anyway. time to shut down hillary clinton's political aspirations. [20:27]
* asciilifeform doesn't see an easy, 'just add water!' clitler cure in there [20:28]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Adding some links to extant qntra [20:30]
BingoBoingo: published [20:34]
asciilifeform: what happened to mirror. [20:36]
asciilifeform: srsly [20:36]
deedbot: [Qntra] Clinton And Major Socialist Party Data Released By Hero - [20:36]
asciilifeform: that thing will stay up until the hornet's nest clocks in tomorrow morning, at the latest. [20:36]
BingoBoingo: Perhaps MP is saving the mirror and gloating for a Trilema post? [20:41]
shinohai: later tell BingoBoingo <<< edit fir lulz if needed [20:41]
gribble: The operation succeeded. [20:41]
BingoBoingo: ty shinohai [20:45]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I think that's a new record for time to qntra post being linked by another qntra post. [20:46]
BingoBoingo: brb, sleep [20:46]
deedbot: [Qntra] US Air Force Fraud Investigations Lost - [20:47]
asciilifeform: motherfucker HAD TO put all the docs in buncha js soup [20:49]
asciilifeform: anyway i got a copy. for whoever needs later. [20:51]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo win! [21:01]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anything other than wget -m ? [21:02]
mircea_popescu: "31 files, 467k in 1.9s" [21:03]
mircea_popescu: oops. i mean... wget -mp is the correct format! who knew :p [21:04]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: won't work [21:11]
mircea_popescu: i just noticed it doesn't grab files. wtf ? [21:11]
asciilifeform: aha. [21:11]
asciilifeform: js soup [21:11]
mircea_popescu: nope. [21:11]
mircea_popescu: they're on a different domain, as per wordpress idiocy. and wget is apparently written by imbeciles. [21:12]
mircea_popescu: wget -mpr, STILL doesn't get the files [21:12]
mircea_popescu: which is not acceptabru. [21:12]
shinohai: later tell << re: changetip [21:13]
gribble: Error: That is an invalid IRC nick. Please check your input. [21:13]
shinohai: later tell BingoBoingo << re: changetip [21:13]
gribble: The operation succeeded. [21:13]
mircea_popescu: << one of numerous instances of people asking / complaining about the idiocy. [21:13]
shinohai: curl forevah [21:14]
mircea_popescu: i thought wget was supposed to be FOR THIS. [21:14]
mircea_popescu: aha! found it. [21:17]
mircea_popescu: wget -Hmpr, is the pill. [21:17]
mircea_popescu: 52 files, 9.6M [21:18]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo we prolly should have a rule as to the maximum wordcount for an a href anchor. [21:25]
shinohai: Simply exclude href wordcount? [21:41]
mircea_popescu: i just mean, blue underlined text should be maybe 2-3-4 words not 20+ [21:41]
shinohai: i just mean to me it makes no sense to include href as wordcount [21:42]
shinohai: tis how linkfarms are created! [21:43]
mod6: thestringpuller: so, one thing i can tell for sure from your dpaste is that you're not running the latest trb tree. [21:59]
mod6: not sure what else might be the problem there though. [22:05]
shinohai: it seems to be working for me, was gonna try an arch install tomorrow [22:08]
thestringpuller: i'm not but it ~was~ working [22:11]
thestringpuller: why did it wedge there? [22:11]
mod6: not sure. [22:15]
mod6: mine is happily running along past that block. mine is fully caught up. [22:15]
mod6: do you have the cutblock code in your build? [22:15]
thestringpuller: how can I output my current tree with [22:16]
mod6: ./ f [22:16]
mod6: that'll tell me what is in your patches dir, but not necessarily what you actually built. you haven't said yet what you built or how. [22:17]
mod6: since your version shows 50400, it makes me inclined to think that you have some downlevel version since it should say 99999 if you have the latest. [22:17]
thestringpuller: i built with stator [22:17]
mod6: any particular reason? [22:17]
thestringpuller: no [22:17]
thestringpuller: lol [22:17]
mod6: i would try building with the latest and see. [22:18]
thestringpuller: [22:18]
thestringpuller: what additional patches do i need to add? [22:18]
mod6: follow these steps if need be: [22:19]
mod6: and you will ~also~ need to do this: [22:19]
a111: Logged on 2016-06-15 00:24 mod6: so looks like openssl did change to https, and if you want to build with '', for the time being simply update the script by changing line 63 from: [22:19]
mod6: follow the steps in that log link. [22:20]
thestringpuller: how can I check what pathces have been applied? [22:22]
thestringpuller: okay nvm i see it's manually been applied [22:26]
mod6: if you use the script referenced above, it'll verbosely print out the patches being applied. which you can log into a file. [22:26]
thestringpuller: yea just saw that [22:26]
thestringpuller: everythign was applied [22:27]
thestringpuller: okay i'll add the new patch sets [22:27]
thestringpuller: i wonder what broke.... [22:27]
thestringpuller: lemme try one last thign [22:27]
mod6: not sure. was this the same blockchain that you've been using with this same build? that error you recieved makes me think something got munged. [22:28]
thestringpuller: fuck [22:29]
thestringpuller: i had an updated one for a while [22:29]
thestringpuller: then that happened [22:29]
thestringpuller: i better not have to resync [22:29]
thestringpuller: i'ma be so angry [22:29]
shinohai: i can haz lasers ? [22:40]
phf: pew pew [22:40]
thestringpuller: laser kittens [22:41]
gribble: Error: "laser" is not a valid command. [22:41]
thestringpuller: lasers kittens [22:41]
gribble: ┌━ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ ┄ *pew!* *pew!* *pew!* [22:41]
mircea_popescu: so, sadly but apparently unavoidable : who wants to re-do btcalpha wot explorer ? [23:16]
phf: is there public deedbot dump somewhere? [23:22]
phf: there used to be that sql dump, and then i think trinque started giving out sql logins to his wot postgresql server, is how wot data access progressed? [23:26]
asciilifeform: seen mike_c [23:45]
gribble: mike_c was last seen in #trilema 7 weeks, 1 day, 0 hours, 43 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: <mike_c> at least you won the 'most famous mircea popescu' award - [23:45]
asciilifeform: truly awol ? [23:45]
asciilifeform: or... kakotronic ?? [23:45]
phf: asciilifeform: you don't hang out there anymore? [23:49]
asciilifeform: where ? [23:49]
asciilifeform: #b-a ? logged in still, but he ain't there iirc [23:49]
phf: ah [23:49]
asciilifeform: or at least not actively. [23:49]
asciilifeform: (he's logged in, theoretically, here ~and~ there. but so was, until recently, artifexd) [23:50]
asciilifeform: <asciilifeform> seen mike_c [23:51]
asciilifeform: <gribble> mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 weeks, 1 day, 1 hour, 14 minutes, and 43 seconds ago: <mike_c> I was like "are all the ratings hosed??" [23:51]
asciilifeform: ^ for compleeetness. [23:51]
asciilifeform: '... and then one day, he rode away, and where he dwelleth - none can say for into darkness fell his star - in mordor, where the shadows lie.' (tm) (r) (jrrt) [23:52]
phf: bunch of people went a plague o' both your houses [23:53]
asciilifeform: dunno about 'bunch' [23:53]
asciilifeform: most of the folks who aren't here - are still there. [23:53]
phf: oh i see [23:54]
phf: i stopped following the other side, because it was a daily dose of "if you want to suck mp cock you know where to find it" [23:56]
mircea_popescu: phf afaik yeah, trinque will give you a sql link [23:57]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, guy has a job, a wife and a child. who knows what trouble besets the man. [23:57]
phf: which i always thought is a pretty poor rhetoric tactic ever since i encountered it in like 6th grade [23:58]
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes has wives, children, jobs, does ok [23:58]
mircea_popescu: phf it's very hard to differentiate oneself when oneself has nothing to offer. forced mistake, what else to do other than. [23:58]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "but for the grace of god there goes i" or how did that quote go. [23:59]
asciilifeform: i suppose [23:59]
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