Forum logs for 10 Aug 2018

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we'd have 30k of them in db then, not 3 [00:22]
mircea_popescu: reasonably, yes. but possibly ? no ? how do i know. [02:12]
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the heathen circus, https://archive.is/DD2uo >> '...Google engineer...sorting out the Spectre security hole mess...went to his hotel room in Caesars Palace and found his room key no longer worked. When he went to reception to find out what the problem was he was met by two security guards who took him to the room, told him pick up his stuff and escorted him off the premises. He was also given a written warning that he w [09:11]
asciilifeform: ould be prosecuted if he stepped foot in the hotel again... "Sir, your speech has consequences so you better think about that in the future before you threaten," was another comment from the security team.' [09:11]
asciilifeform: ( whole thing lulzy ) [09:13]
asciilifeform: e.g. diff chump at same rubber chicken fest, 'Because I declined to have maid service in my hotel room at BlackHat, two security guys came to my room and demanded I open my door and let them do a walkthrough search' [09:15]
mod6: !!reputation adlai [10:10]
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/52erp/?raw=true [10:10]
mod6: http://logs.bvulpescom/pizarro?d=2018-8-10#412082 ^ [10:13]
mod6: gah [10:13]
mod6: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-8-10#412082 ^ [10:13]
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-08-10 07:01 adlai: at the risk of sounding like a lightly-chipped (for the broken don't spin too good) record: i'd be glad to rent the new rockchip. i promise this time to think before i type, and not play the shitty music too loud. [10:13]
mircea_popescu: kaniini you everr read http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-04-aug-2018#2463724 ? [10:38]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-04 22:25 mircea_popescu: anyway, tbh i'm mostly encouraging the utter collapse of freenode's "security" model. it should be obvious that lode/ae dorks could just as well REGISTER the spambots. it's a fully automated process, what's the problem, emails ? gimme a break. [10:38]
mircea_popescu: !!up kaniini [10:38]
deedbot: kaniini voiced for 30 minutes. [10:38]
kaniini: mircea_popescu yes [10:38]
mircea_popescu: a cool [10:38]
mircea_popescu: !!key kaniini [10:38]
deedbot: Not registered. [10:38]
kaniini: i agree that it would be nice to require SMS or something else to register [10:39]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "evil maild" mandatory\!!! [10:39]
kaniini: it would also be nice to be able to exclude accounts newer than X days [10:39]
kaniini: at least then they have to go to the effort to farm accounts [10:40]
kaniini: the account login message could be trivially extended to send registration time [10:40]
kaniini: then you could set +r 1d [10:40]
kaniini: instead of just +r [10:40]
kaniini: or whatever [10:41]
mircea_popescu: kaniini doesn't work lol, consider http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=from%3Amircea+fetlife (specifrically http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-08#1787186 ) [10:41]
a111: Logged on 2018-03-08 00:20 mircea_popescu: sooo... big deal, 1 sent girl to buy a bagful of phone numbers. they cost, no joke, $2.5 here. EXCEPT, of course, they want your "cedula", you know, "por activacion". [10:41]
kaniini: mircea_popescu yes, but requiring accounts older than X days would help to mitigate [10:42]
mircea_popescu: how ? lol. you just make the accts now, sell later. [10:42]
kaniini: nobody is going to buy accounts to flood freenode with [10:46]
kaniini: lets be real here [10:46]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2016/give-computers-the-vote-theyre-cheaper-than-women-even/ exists for a reason and that reason is that computers have actually reached the place where they're indistinguishable from the "anonymous" inter-neet. [10:47]
mircea_popescu: kaniini and why not ? [10:47]
kaniini: the average idiot flooding freenode is a dumb kid with no money [10:47]
mircea_popescu: and the average girlfriend is fat. what's that do ? [10:47]
mircea_popescu: read the thing quoted. it says http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-08#1787189 and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-08#1787190 for a fucking reason. that reason is, that for as long as freenode persists in "code of conduct" and "women aren't meat" and assorted nonsense, the republic is wealthy, and the republic is powerful, and yes someone will pay so that hilary "inexplicably" loses "the election". [10:49]
a111: Logged on 2018-03-08 00:21 mircea_popescu: this entire exercise in idiocy has, practically speaking, resulted in me paying various hard working ticos a grand or so, to the people fucking in the ass the "security" paradigm of pantsuit.fetlife. IN LIEU of having paid that much, and rather more, to the fetlife itself. [10:49]
a111: Logged on 2018-03-08 00:22 mircea_popescu: but this paradigm where "we will cater to the peniless but opinionated female herd, instead of the rich and actually powerful white male" fucked them over. [10:49]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-07#1840131 << interesting. can prolly declassify once erect, make a picture blogpost ? not like someone can alter physics. [10:52]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-07 16:09 asciilifeform: !Q later tell mircea_popescu http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/IHgO2/?raw=true [10:52]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840797 << the zekstories from teh zekzone ever more zeklulzy. ZEKS!!! [11:04]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-10 13:15 asciilifeform: e.g. diff chump at same rubber chicken fest, 'Because I declined to have maid service in my hotel room at BlackHat, two security guys came to my room and demanded I open my door and let them do a walkthrough search' [11:04]
mircea_popescu: this, btw, is why you DO NOT WANT "electronic" key. wtf is this dumb shit, "key no longer works" ? i paid for a fucking day, i own the fucking lease, you can have your room again tomorrow when im done with it AND NOT BEFORE. jesus fuck wtf is wrong with these people. [11:04]
mircea_popescu: none of this is "at will". if i rent a room, i bought the option, that's that. [11:05]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840833 << i expect we'll publish buncha pr0n of the thing, once it starts working [11:51]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-10 14:52 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-07#1840131 << interesting. can prolly declassify once erect, make a picture blogpost ? not like someone can alter physics. [11:51]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840837 << afaik not 1 single hotel, neither the posh kind nor the cockroach pit sort , remaining in the reich with old-fashioned brass keys [11:52]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-10 15:04 mircea_popescu: this, btw, is why you DO NOT WANT "electronic" key. wtf is this dumb shit, "key no longer works" ? i paid for a fucking day, i own the fucking lease, you can have your room again tomorrow when im done with it AND NOT BEFORE. jesus fuck wtf is wrong with these people. [11:52]
mircea_popescu: sucks for the reich. i just come from one, had brass key for the door and steel key for the safe on the ring. [11:55]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but anyway, to answer the q : sure. [11:56]
asciilifeform: neato [11:56]
asciilifeform: cool. i'ma prepare the requisites then, when $otherend is up. [11:57]
asciilifeform: will be one hell of an experiment. [11:57]
mircea_popescu: lol. [11:57]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840813 << the only thing funnier than the hotel rectal probing and post-party arrests they do, is how the patients continue to show ( and pay, what, 5-10k usd, for the privilege ) ! [12:00]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-10 14:39 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "evil maild" mandatory\!!! [12:00]
mircea_popescu: "nothing else exists" right, "this is everywhere" bla bla. [12:01]
asciilifeform: e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-03#1693509 d00d [12:01]
a111: Logged on 2017-08-03 19:32 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the circus , https://archive.is/tAOy3 [12:01]
mircea_popescu: they utterly deserve each other. [12:01]
asciilifeform: meanwhile , in good things, http://summaries.logs.esthlos.com is alive an' kickin' again. [12:03]
asciilifeform: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-8-10#412082 << adlai : folx on mircea_popescu's list of the officially sad, can't lease boxen, i thought this was clear [12:04]
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-08-10 07:01 adlai: at the risk of sounding like a lightly-chipped (for the broken don't spin too good) record: i'd be glad to rent the new rockchip. i promise this time to think before i type, and not play the shitty music too loud. [12:04]
* mircea_popescu enjoyed http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/07a-copenhagen.html [12:04]
asciilifeform: !!rate rain2 1 small scheme interpreters [12:08]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/nM8FC/?raw=true [12:08]
asciilifeform: !!v 73D35CBF0122AC4E8F5F61BFE2207804243D26DEAECF490D4E3A8F139387E8E9 [12:08]
deedbot: asciilifeform rated rain2 1 << small scheme interpreters [12:08]
asciilifeform: !!key kaniini [12:09]
deedbot: Not registered. [12:09]
asciilifeform: eh. [12:09]
mod6: either you're WoT, or not. [12:11]
mircea_popescu: spyked http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/07a-copenhagen.html#selection-449.0-453.178 << this made very little sense to me. how does it follow ? why, for instance, do you suspect any of the three would, or which holes ? [12:11]
mircea_popescu: sometimes you read like "here's a picture of the apple tree in socialism, as you can see, it makes fruit to help the 5year plan", you know that ? [12:12]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/nobody-knows-what-lovage-is/ << Trilema - Nobody knows what lovage is... [12:12]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840822 << this sorta thing ~increases~ spam, creates suddenly 'valuable' market in aged accts [12:21]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-10 14:42 kaniini: mircea_popescu yes, but requiring accounts older than X days would help to mitigate [12:21]
asciilifeform: oh hah, mircea_popescu already pointed out. [12:21]
asciilifeform: ( relatedly, iirc there's a vintage ro trilema re how reich-style policing increases street theft , by making fertile fields for smalltime crime , but can't seem to unearth it ) [12:22]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/yes-bitch-i-would-bring-it/ << Trilema - Yes, bitch, I would. Bring it. [13:44]
mod6: !!pay BingoBoingo 0.23437500 [15:24]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/6Dc3g/?raw=true [15:24]
mod6: (for "Samsung 860 EVO 1TB 2.5 Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-76E1T0B/AM)" x 5) ^ [15:25]
mod6: !!v 69850D450748766DFCF06AE8A4BBE641ACC9DA228811DE7346E57498162385AC [15:29]
deedbot: mod6 paid BingoBoingo 0.23437500 [15:29]
mod6: !!ledger [16:01]
deedbot: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/LyqpB/?raw=true [16:01]
mod6: Previously we paid .21483957 for UY3 (according to the April statement) [16:04]
mod6: oops wrong channel [16:04]
mod6: !!rate mats 2 Pizarro Client, TMSR~ things [16:23]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/NtYkO/?raw=true [16:23]
mod6: !!v 6C67DCC21EEECCC898DBD1EBEBB8EF13839CE27002E99ABFB8F2197E4CE78A62 [16:26]
deedbot: mod6 rated mats 2 << Pizarro Client, TMSR~ things [16:26]
mod6: !!rate 2 ave1 musltronic gnat & TMSR~ things [16:29]
mod6: !!rate ave1 2 musltronic gnat & TMSR~ things [16:29]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/87XHQ/?raw=true [16:29]
mod6: !!rate spyked 2 TMSR~ Regular [16:29]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/i3QbM/?raw=true [16:29]
mod6: !!rate mocky 1 Eulora Development [16:30]
deedbot: Get your OTP: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/gZ5mj/?raw=true [16:30]
mod6: !!v 14857FD9CBED09635F2279BAA41985A9E5D0B6DCBE6E58B8BE1F11BDB9814968 [16:34]
deedbot: mod6 rated ave1 2 << musltronic gnat & TMSR~ things [16:34]
mod6: !!v 4560483134951058A1E3E1768E653835B5F9E8D4FD6E2AFEC7AE77EF9930F8BB [16:34]
deedbot: mod6 rated spyked 2 << TMSR~ Regular [16:34]
mod6: !!v C47A761BC19959B5E5837E66559613DE3027460F84E8730D195904C8A7296618 [16:35]
deedbot: mod6 rated mocky 1 << Eulora Development [16:35]
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840849 << these are not stories of abuse, these are war stories "what i do matters". it's such a huge part of the lore that i wouldn't be surprised if the hotel mgmt does it to attract more of an attention to the event. you mean i get to hang out with dangerous hackers?? [17:07]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-10 16:00 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840813 << the only thing funnier than the hotel rectal probing and post-party arrests they do, is how the patients continue to show ( and pay, what, 5-10k usd, for the privilege ) ! [17:07]
asciilifeform: phf: in that case i have Great Biznis Ideas !11 why not, e.g., feed erry 10th one to pirannhas . [17:08]
phf: well, that's how mountaineering business works: bulk of ascends are done by sherpas, who carry a paying lawyer on their back, but you still have one in a thousand die in an avalanche, so that the rest can pretend like they actually did something dangerous. [17:14]
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/08/10/3-days-of-loaves/ << Bingo Blog - 3 Days Of Loaves [17:26]
BingoBoingo: ^Baking update [17:26]
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG, PANZERS! [18:25]
asciilifeform: please welcome the new & improved phuctor www frontend, 4th rewrite ! [18:25]
asciilifeform: nao with proper caching, and pagination. [18:25]
asciilifeform: ( and buncha misc optimizations not worth listing individually ) [18:26]
asciilifeform: nomoar 500MB pages!!1111 [18:26]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu ^ et al [18:27]
asciilifeform: theoretically oughta stand up to ~unlimited www use/abuse. [18:28]
BingoBoingo: Congrats [18:34]
asciilifeform: ty BingoBoingo . plox to torturetest. [18:35]
* asciilifeform bbl : meat. [18:38]
asciilifeform: next rev will be : full text index / searcher. [20:11]
asciilifeform: so we can e.g. !phuctor 106.242.174.238 , !phuctor foo@bar.com , etc [20:12]
asciilifeform: ( and yes the db is massaged to the point where this is practical. ) [20:12]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840901 << phf : come to think of it, see also http://btcbase.org/log/2017-11-04#1732869 [20:14]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-10 21:07 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840849 << these are not stories of abuse, these are war stories "what i do matters". it's such a huge part of the lore that i wouldn't be surprised if the hotel mgmt does it to attract more of an attention to the event. you mean i get to hang out with dangerous hackers?? [20:14]
a111: Logged on 2017-11-04 14:37 asciilifeform: ( in mega-b00k re 'evil fyoootoor' , 'stand on zanzibar', this process becomes a proper service, for which they charge, and you can get not only firing squad but whatever you like, burning at the stake, guillotine, etc. ) [20:14]
mod6: <+asciilifeform> please welcome the new & improved phuctor www frontend, 4th rewrite ! << nice! [21:55]
* lobbes did some test browsing and can confirm: it is blazingly fast on my end [21:57]
mod6: yeah, the stats page is lightning [21:58]
asciilifeform: absolutely nuffin in there should take moar than (at worst) 3s or so, to load. [23:01]
mircea_popescu: o hey, this is nice [23:14]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-10#1840904 << i fear he has it exactly right... the intent is not "omfg we're fucked" but precisely "oh noes we matter [enough to...]". [23:19]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-10 21:14 phf: well, that's how mountaineering business works: bulk of ascends are done by sherpas, who carry a paying lawyer on their back, but you still have one in a thousand die in an avalanche, so that the rest can pretend like they actually did something dangerous. [23:19]
mircea_popescu: persisent idiocy is always circular, after all. [23:20]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-11#1840918 << this will be quite lovely. [23:21]
a111: Logged on 2018-08-11 00:12 asciilifeform: so we can e.g. !phuctor 106.242.174.238 , !phuctor foo@bar.com , etc [23:21]
mircea_popescu: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/factors << also very fast. nice.\ [23:23]
mircea_popescu: "I've discovered batter for southern style biscuits." << lmao. 000 and beyonds fine ground flour is for pastry. coarser ground works best for bread. [23:25]
mircea_popescu: also stop putting egg in bread. egg is for cozonac, aranygaluska/monkeybread etc, sweetbreads. [23:26]
mircea_popescu: yeast and water let it rise for >4 hours in the mixing bowl and that's that.\ [23:27]
asciilifeform: not only fast, but shortened the proggy by 100 ln or so, and nao also can add formulae to stats pg w/out restarting [23:30]
asciilifeform: ( eater nao eats ~10% faster also, on acct of the thing not being bogged in doing stats asynch. ) [23:31]
asciilifeform: the 1 other item in the queue there is 'scan this ip' box. but this, later. [23:39]
* asciilifeform bbl,meat [23:39]
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