Forum logs for 04 Oct 2017

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
mircea_popescu: << i can't see why it wouldn't! [01:55]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-04 03:12 trinque: well and meanwhile the bot threatens to end up a business. a backups service was only the most obvious and low-hanging one that came to mind. [01:55]
mircea_popescu: << yes. [01:58]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-04 03:56 BingoBoingo: Anyone know any good resources for learning the Khmer language? [01:58]
BingoBoingo: In other news Ulbricht moved to USP Florence, High which places him in shadow of Ted Kaczynsk's digs at ADX Florence. Coincidentally he signed away his objection to the proceeds of those silk road auctions. [02:25]
mircea_popescu: heh [02:50]
mircea_popescu: and in other car trunks, [02:59]
mircea_popescu: in typical sv "useful", [03:20]
mircea_popescu: the thing only croaked 3 years ago. [03:20]
midnightmagic: argh their waists are so tiny [05:32]
deedbot: << Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - So you want your kid to be a doctor when he grows up [10:40]
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, the cia's own manual of recommendable interaction with the usg reich : [10:56]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that's a classic, was reprinted by, e.g., paladin [10:57]
asciilifeform: passed around in kid w4r3z for two decades nao [10:57]
mircea_popescu: i live a sheltered existence among women, cutt off from the boyish universe / [10:58]
asciilifeform: also i will note, the ru works in this genre, are to slightly higher standard. [10:58]
* shinohai also remembers the aboves inclusion in w4rebookz [10:58]
asciilifeform: 'Post office employees can see to it that enemy mall is always delayed by one day or more, that it is put in wrong sacks, and so on.' << hey apparently my postman read this!11! [10:59]
mircea_popescu: kinda why i linked it, lotta lulzy nonsense in that vein. [11:00]
asciilifeform: 'Anyone can break up a showing of an enemy propaganda film by putting two or three dozen large moths in a paper bag. Take the bag to the movies with you, put it on the floor in an empty section of the theater as you go in and leave it open. The moths will fly out and climb into the projector beam, so that the film will be obscured by fluttering shadows.' [11:01]
asciilifeform: whoever was paid to write this item, must've had a real riot of a time. [11:01]
shinohai: "Top work Smith!" [11:01]
mircea_popescu: << remember 2013 ? back when dimon had the unmitigated audacity to claim bitcoin is "a scam" and "has no value" while providing "Banking services" and a hiring pool to the likes of ycombinator, and other such scams with no value ? [11:02]
mircea_popescu: somehow, they don't perceive the need to PROOVE today, preferably before this court, that they aren't a scam and have some value. [11:02]
mircea_popescu: i wonder how the fuck that is. [11:03]
asciilifeform: << in other lulz [11:30]
mircea_popescu: pretty entertaining blog huh. [11:32]
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, rando sent me "seo report" re trilema that shows my "organic competitors" whatever that is. they are, in order : google, youtube, wikipedia, reddit and facebook. [11:47]
mircea_popescu: the true lulz begins however when one digs into wtf is this shit, and discovers that out of google's 255.8 mn keywords (really ? how the fuck, they've one page they publish bad atari porn on) we share 56 whereas out of facebook's 63.9 mn (really ? the place where everyone goes to spew has less diversity than google by a factor of 4 ?!) we share... 13. [11:48]
mircea_popescu: if this truly reflects some kind of machine classification, i suspect i should be pretty fucking flattered. how the fuck do you even end up SO far out there, overlap is in the 0.00002%s [11:49]
mircea_popescu: bwahahaha, check out the zombie lulz cow : [12:15]
mircea_popescu: this guy is like the generation's unintentional comedy goldmine [12:16]
mircea_popescu: maybe they make tuckie beer to go with the 70s billy beer. [12:19]
mircea_popescu: and in other SV lulz : Scott Banister @nist "Angel investor. Fan of the original open-source operating system: the US Constitution. Member of Altruists for Ayn Rand. Adventist. Married to @cyantist." VS Cyan Banister @cyantist "genderqueer, libertarian, atheist, adult freedom fighter, friend, silly person, partner in life with @nist, partner at founders fund." [12:42]
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many people in the us are married to someone who is partnered with them and related observances. [12:43]
asciilifeform: meanwhile, on the planet of terrible ocr's, << reality winner 'evidence' : ohnoez, illicit googlesearchstrings << jailhouse phone tap output [12:48]
mircea_popescu: wait, they want to convict her on the basis of having listened in to her phone after having arrested her for the thing they're ostensibly trying to convict her of ? [12:48]
asciilifeform: ( originals, for the truly dedicated entomologist, are on shittome ) [12:49]
mircea_popescu: "your honor, this person is guilty of our having put her in jail for suspecting her of x crime, therefore please find she is guilty of x" [12:49]
asciilifeform: and naturally. apparently flies. [12:49]
mircea_popescu: pretty lulzy. [12:49]
mircea_popescu: what should i google to be a spy too ? [12:49]
asciilifeform: 'googled for 'mujahed', guilty, next' [12:50]
mircea_popescu: srsly ? [12:51]
asciilifeform: evidently [12:51]
mircea_popescu: all i get is a wikipedia page. [12:52]
mircea_popescu: o wait... I THINK I FOUND THE GOLDSTEIN! [12:52]
mircea_popescu: [12:52]
mircea_popescu: fwiw, "how to donate bitcoin to isis" returns 5 results in .63 seconds (yay!), a newsweek piece from august and some random crap. [12:53]
mircea_popescu: the source being actually [12:55]
BingoBoingo: In other sads, Paladin Press closing at end of year [12:55]
mircea_popescu: this is all about as retarded as the average alt-scam. "here's a grainy pic of some dudes holding aks and random tattoo squiggles, send $$$ to this address." [12:56]
mircea_popescu: what, because visual association ? [12:56]
BingoBoingo: Well, if you send $$$ they send you book with more grainy pics [12:56]
mircea_popescu: such win [12:58]
asciilifeform: paladin has been going down the toilet for yearz [12:58]
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, gothamgal ( ) is now doing food and clothing. i guess that whole thing about women "in tech" eventually finding their own level wasn't that much off the mark was it. [12:59]
* mircea_popescu is slightly envious of the cheap plastic cafeteria trays and the bounties therein. if only such vehemently delicious pork sausages were available anywhere but in honk gonk. [13:00]
mircea_popescu: otherwise, "When you fly into NYC from anywhere and land at any of our major airports, it is always shocking how rundown our airports are, just like our subways, in a city that is the epicenter of the world. Every major industry has a foothold here. Watching the rise of homeless on the street and seeing the earth be very angry from hurricanes to earthquakes to fires, just makes me feel extremely unsettled and worried about [13:01]
mircea_popescu: the future." [13:01]
mircea_popescu: very soviet experience. [13:01]
asciilifeform: 'seeing the earth be very angry from hurricanes to earthquakes to fires' [13:19]
mircea_popescu: this is the intellectual level of the "venture capitalist". [13:22]
mircea_popescu: one step away from sacrifices to mother-goddess. [13:23]
mircea_popescu: come to think about it, this is probably the best illustration of us "venture capital" : [13:24]
asciilifeform: 0 step away [13:24]
mircea_popescu: the galz are "investing" in each other. [13:25]
asciilifeform: from rw omg111criminal googlings, 'palestine jobs' 'living in palestine' 'afghanistan jobs' 'living in afghanistan' 'kabul university' 'how to get rid of all your stuff' 'how to support anonymous' 'how to join anonymous' [ long list of usg linguist job postings in orcistans ] [13:30]
mircea_popescu: lmao [13:30]
mircea_popescu: the pantsuit fucktards are really this delulded, aren't they. [13:30]
asciilifeform: picture this chix, 'tell me, o usg oracle ! how to escape usg and my own skin' [13:31]
asciilifeform: or alternatively perl script genned. [13:31]
mircea_popescu: the sheer derealization going on in their skulls. [13:31]
mircea_popescu: this shithead actually imagines not that she has a market value above 0, but that she has a value above 0 in all markets! [13:31]
asciilifeform: iirc there was a photo, she was serviceable [13:32]
mircea_popescu: like, someone in pakistan will hire reality winner. [13:32]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you know what the price of a woman UNDER TWENTY is in the meat trade ? [13:32]
asciilifeform: lolhowwouldiknow [13:32]
mircea_popescu: let me tell you then : a few hundred dollars. [13:32]
asciilifeform: white meat ? [13:33]
mircea_popescu: today, same as what it was back when you could buy croatian virgins in the 90s, same as it was back when you could buy twelve year olds directly from the un peacekept darfour, the exact fucking same as what it'd have cost to buy a gypsy girl in 1800s bucharest, or 1600s charlottesville, or for fucks sake, in 200 ad rome : [13:33]
mircea_popescu: about 8 to 10 grams of gold. [13:34]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is no such thing as white. [13:34]
asciilifeform: wouldja stick it in a darfour, mircea_popescu ? srsly ? [13:34]
mircea_popescu: white means "affluent whie male", not cunt. [13:34]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you know what color the veal was that made your steak ? [13:34]
mircea_popescu: do brown cows make coffee and white cows milk in your world ? [13:35]
mircea_popescu: there is no white. [13:35]
asciilifeform: in fact not. but i do know that it had meat on its bones, say. [13:35]
mircea_popescu: all women bought by weight are nonwhite by that fact. [13:35]
mircea_popescu: whiteness is not a matter of skin color. [13:35]
asciilifeform: i seem to recall a mircea_popescu article re old white chixen in egypt [13:36]
mircea_popescu: AFFLUENT. [13:36]
asciilifeform: hm. [13:36]
mircea_popescu: whiteness means property and penis. nothing else. [13:36]
mircea_popescu: if you're poor, you're not white. if you're a cuck, you're not white. if you've got money and guts, you'll be white no matter what. othello is my witness. [13:37]
asciilifeform: soo why did turkish slave-harvesters go north, into europistan, rather than south into monkeystan ? [13:38]
mircea_popescu: and as a side-point to all of this : there's about 155 tons of gold in the world. this means that any female past the 19`405`500th is actually inflationary. [13:38]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why do they raise holsteins in preference of angus ? [13:38]
mircea_popescu: some do. those that do, do. some don't -- and they... don't. [13:38]
asciilifeform: upstack, if mircea_popescu says he wouldn't buy an rw -- i'll believe [13:39]
mircea_popescu: rw ? [13:40]
asciilifeform: realitywinner [13:40]
* asciilifeform can't get enuff of the name, simply chokes [13:40]
mircea_popescu: actually i wouldn't take one for free. [13:40]
mircea_popescu: heck, i wouldn't take much better ones for free. [13:40]
asciilifeform: for sake of argument, why do you suppose she'd be any harder to reformat and re-os than the other chix ? [13:41]
mircea_popescu: evidently. she's 25. [13:42]
asciilifeform: i thought those were still formattable [13:42]
mircea_popescu: do you think a child who lived with wolves to age 9 would be more difficult to teach creative writing to than a child who lived with wolves to age 2 ? [13:42]
asciilifeform: didn't ~most of mircea_popescu's patients livewithwolves ? [13:42]
asciilifeform: for 2decades or so [13:43]
mircea_popescu: that "or so" matters. [13:43]
mircea_popescu: humongous difference in idiocy between 19yo and 28yo. [13:43]
mircea_popescu: moreover, individuals are individual this item here discussed is not an individual. [13:44]
mircea_popescu: is an item. [13:44]
BingoBoingo: << More Colours [13:44]
trinque: natural slut phase is still humming along in that earlier bit [13:44]
mircea_popescu: might as well ask me if i can re-annimate hilary's worn pantsuit. [13:44]
trinque: seems entirely relevant to ease of reformatting [13:44]
mircea_popescu: what, really ? [13:44]
BingoBoingo: "Speaking at the inauguration of a hotel in Siem Reap province, the premier claimed “rebels” were planning to launch a so-called colour revolution, and that Sokha’s purported collusion with the US was only the tip of the iceberg." [13:44]
asciilifeform: lol! [13:44]
mircea_popescu: o noes, teh nulandisms dun work any better than the bhararaisms work these days ? [13:45]
BingoBoingo: "He added that there were ongoing investigations into allegedly traitors, but when asked who was under investigation, he replied: “Why would you want to know this? It’s about national security. Are you a spy?”" << Win [13:45]
mircea_popescu: trinque you can in principle discover perfectly sane 50 yo that has somehow survived in a world of utter idiots. women are capable of incredible feats of self-preservation. [13:45]
mircea_popescu: but if we're talking odds... [13:45]
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> trinque you can in principle discover perfectly sane 50 yo that has somehow survived in a world of utter idiots. women are capable of incredible feats of self-preservation. << Gotta go to more biker bars? [13:47]
mircea_popescu: sadly i dun have a consistent unicorn farm. [13:47]
* trinque finds old sluts delightful [13:47]
mircea_popescu: anyway. reality winner is ugly and unintelligent. these are bars, first to interest, then to potential. so no, 0 interest. [13:48]
asciilifeform: i'll ftr disagree re the ugly [13:48]
asciilifeform: but matter of taste. [13:48]
mircea_popescu: judgement by association doesn't work though. it's firmly possible the most interesting one ever will be 99.99% similar to this one. [13:48]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno, i guess matter of taste. too much of that barbara streisand inbred look to her for me. [13:49]
asciilifeform: the ugliest bit re rw, supposing the document is genuine rather than perlistic disinfo, is the text . srsly, odin gave moar brains to the pig than to this creature [13:49]
trinque: << looks like a frat bro [13:50]
asciilifeform: hey BingoBoingo ^ steroisism ? [13:50]
asciilifeform: *steroidism [13:50]
BingoBoingo: "Hun Sen in his speech also lashed out at the supposed hypocrisy of the international community, which he maligned for having previously recognised at the UN the murderous Khmer Rouge – to which he once belonged – only to condemn him now for the arrest of a purported traitor. “I only enforce the existing law,” the premier said. "Why can I not [punish treason]? I don’t do it for my own life, but for the happiness of the whole co [13:50]
BingoBoingo: untry."" << OMG why does the fake news media always have to hate on Great Again [13:50]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Strong possibility [13:50]
mircea_popescu: to revisit slightly upstack, the reason i even mentioned gothamgal is this classic piece from 2015 : [13:51]
mircea_popescu: very amusing because of the slug reaction to salt : "what do you mean our failure means worthlessness!!!! THAT IS NOT HOW WE WERE PROMISED WORLD WORKS!" [13:51]
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: shouldn't be perma-effect tho. betcha she's gone back to looking like woman again, after few months of clink [13:51]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not how this usually works. there's two kinds of women in jail. [13:51]
mircea_popescu: and it seems evident she's trying to butch. [13:51]
asciilifeform: can try as much as wants, no moar injects though [13:52]
mircea_popescu: you are indeed naive. [13:52]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Apparently the "going back" part is unpredictable in women. [13:52]
asciilifeform: what, will buy them ? from whom, with what [13:52]
mircea_popescu: !#s inmate had children with prison guards [13:52]
a111: 0 results for "inmate had children with prison guards", [13:52]
asciilifeform: spoodje is free [13:52]
mircea_popescu: orly. pretty sure this was in logs. [13:52]
asciilifeform: it was in the logs [13:52]
asciilifeform: !#s guard impregnation [13:53]
a111: 0 results for "guard impregnation", [13:53]
asciilifeform: hm. [13:53]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you can have the guard act like your subby with her asshole, you surely can have her bring you roids. [13:53]
mircea_popescu: in self-same asshole at that. [13:53]
asciilifeform: but why would he fuck something that eats roid [13:53]
mircea_popescu: "why do you stick those in your asshole ? not like anyone searches you" "he wants me to." [13:53]
asciilifeform: in other crackpotisms, << supposedly crackpot d00d continued work of howard morland, for 40y, e.g. suing usg ( ) , gathering leaked gibblets. [14:00]
asciilifeform: the one of the few interesting claims - 'A D-T boosted, fractional crit A-bomb could use reactor-grade (25% Pu240) plutonium, instead of the normal 5.5% Pu240 Weapons-Grade Pu, with no degradation of yield.' [14:01]
asciilifeform: seems ^ plausible. [14:01]
mircea_popescu: it does [14:01]
asciilifeform: the other interesting bit, 'The minimum yield required to initiate the D/T gas in the H-bomb‟s boosted Primary or in boosted atomic weapons is only about 20 tons/0.02 kt.' [14:01]
asciilifeform: most of the usg disinfo , just as literate folx always suspected, aimed to inflate the apparent cost. [14:02]
mircea_popescu: i suspect the limit is technological not physical. [14:02]
mircea_popescu: much like "how big should a pixel be". it works for them to make bombs a certain size, so that's the size "bombs must be" [14:02]
asciilifeform: in su this resulted simply in heavier rockets. [14:03]
mircea_popescu: then the "nobody could have predicted" "innovation" of mirving rockets that were too large in the 1st place. [14:03]
asciilifeform: ( incidentally, happy sputnik day ) [14:03]
mircea_popescu: anyway, re the broader point : if you say one middle class individual couldn't, in his spare time and with his spare cash build a thermonuclear weapon during his lifetime starting 1980, you may be true. [14:05]
mircea_popescu: if you say the same, starting in 2000, you may still be true. [14:05]
mircea_popescu: perhaps, even, if you say it re 2020. [14:06]
mircea_popescu: but if you try for "never" you are certainly wrong. [14:06]
asciilifeform: i dare say not true in 20, considering that saharov-style compressive flux generator ( i.e. linear dynamo powered by trotyl ) can almost certainly substitute for those 20ton-equiv of pu [14:07]
mircea_popescu: conceivably. [14:08]
mircea_popescu: i've no idea, i never worked on a nuclear bomb. [14:08]
mircea_popescu: solid state physics though, it dun stand still. [14:08]
asciilifeform: esp. if you make clever use of the magnetic pulse for confinement, while the electric does the work [14:08]
asciilifeform: the whole 'art' of the n00k, is the hold-it-still-long-enuff [14:09]
mircea_popescu: let's put it this way : if you took the people who did the original centrifugal separators and had them made ping-pong playing drone instead, they'd have failed. [14:09]
mircea_popescu: "but why, it's just spinning things precisely". ya, well... [14:09]
asciilifeform: traditional fissiles are dead end, from crackpot pov [14:10]
asciilifeform: takes toomany joules. [14:10]
asciilifeform: ( esp if you count the joules sunk into the oddball metallurgies, to make the pipes ) [14:11]
mircea_popescu: 3d printing!!111 [14:11]
asciilifeform: from asciilifeform's reading of the histories, much of what usg did since '45 has been to create exaggerated impression of difficulty and it was done at the cost of wasting ~own~ resources whenever possible, in stupendously massive way [14:12]
mircea_popescu: anyway, the point being that many unsurmontable tech problems of the 1940s are hardly worth the mention today. "it's called a servo, duh" etc. [14:12]
asciilifeform: fissiles per se, in particular, have not been strictly necessary since perhaps 1970. [14:12]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's all part of the [14:13]
asciilifeform: and whole 'separation plant', 'go and machine perfect sphere out of pyrophoric poison', etc -- red herring. [14:13]
mircea_popescu: how better to be convincing that snake oil works, than by pretending it is very very expensive ? [14:13]
mircea_popescu: it IS snake oil after all, as opposed to schmaltz. [14:13]
asciilifeform: the snake aspect is in the 'apocalyptic' meme [14:14]
asciilifeform: n00k worx perfectly fine to annul the advantage of columns of tanks, expensive jets, etc. [14:14]
asciilifeform: this Would Be Wrong from inca's pov, naturally. [14:14]
asciilifeform: so we get the memewars. [14:14]
asciilifeform: su happily played along, incidentally, for the obvious reason. [14:15]
asciilifeform: the myth of the 'but otherwise, nukefest, apocalypse' is one of the glues holding incatronic empire together. [14:17]
mircea_popescu: there is no such thing as "columns of tanks". [14:23]
mircea_popescu: how useful atomic detonation is against a jet, remains dubious. [14:23]
asciilifeform: quite useful, 0 meaningful shielding [14:23]
mircea_popescu: but it DOES destroy the convention of "all good things flow to city", which has been the rallying cry since the times of parmenides. [14:24]
asciilifeform: and dynamically unstable, thing will fall like brick. [14:24]
asciilifeform: and city, and whatever other fortification. [14:24]
mircea_popescu: you couldn't have such a thing as "bay area" if every elliot around there could just donate a few peta bequerels to the general area. [14:24]
asciilifeform: would last as long as the medieval castles did against gunpowder. [14:24]
mircea_popescu: which is the point. elaine wants to live in city, elliot hasn't the sense to fuck her over. [14:24]
mircea_popescu: has been the mo of humanity for what, 3k years. [14:24]
asciilifeform: elliot likely could not produce even 18th c. cannon with own hands, much less n00k. [14:33]
asciilifeform: joe stack, on other hand.. [14:33]
mircea_popescu: and elaine likely could not produce 1800s warsaw ghetto with her own hands, let alone san francisco. [14:34]
mircea_popescu: what of this ? [14:34]
asciilifeform: 1 is cumulative fungus, other is not. [14:34]
asciilifeform: no shit midden ever detonated. [14:34]
mircea_popescu: 1 is cumulative fungus, other is non-cummulatiove lottery ticket. [14:34]
mircea_popescu: if we're talking odds... [14:34]
asciilifeform: i dun see how odds enter into it. [14:34]
asciilifeform: the odds for elliot are not epsilon, but 0. [14:35]
mircea_popescu: this is the point here : elaines accumulate, havin babies, but their upper bound is epsilon (having babies). elliots do not accumulate, being incapable to even communicate. [14:35]
mircea_popescu: however, their upper bound is unknown at best. [14:35]
mircea_popescu: so it's : to blow up, either pile enough epsilon elaines until it sums to blow up or else keep pulling pins out of elliots, until one does it. [14:35]
asciilifeform: is it possible that we disagree what means 'an elliot' ? [14:35]
mircea_popescu: perhaps. [14:36]
asciilifeform: i picture that it means 'illiterate luser, unable to so much as change a tyre' [14:36]
mircea_popescu: an elliot, modelled after and in homage of historical elliot rodgers, is individual who deems world is at the bar to justify its continued existence to him. [14:36]
mircea_popescu: an elaine, modelled after no one in particular really, is individual who deems connecting with her sisters is a definitive strategy. [14:37]
asciilifeform: 'female wail' (tm)(r) ? [14:37]
mircea_popescu: if you will. usually, it's called "mankind", for unclear reasons. [14:37]
mircea_popescu: "the continuance of life on land", if viewed from zootehnist/slave ower perspective. [14:38]
mircea_popescu: to elaine, the city is a paramount construction, which is why it was the first invention. this is not avoidable. as it happens, elliot to date hasn't well figured out ways to destroy the city. [14:39]
mircea_popescu: locally, temporarily, but nothing significant. [14:39]
mircea_popescu: except, of course, for the nuclear bomb, which is why all the apoplectic femlit on the topic since 1940s. [14:39]
mircea_popescu: anyway. that's the original pussygrab. "willi) ie, men, finally ruinii) ie gynecaeum ???" [14:40]
asciilifeform: the tale with koschei's needle etc. inescapably comes to mind. [14:44]
mircea_popescu: the problem is ~nobody wants to live without women if they can help it. as exemplified by say the nazi jew airbnb and as explained by say shaw.\ [14:44]
asciilifeform: that, and mircea_popescu's ro joak with the running hen [14:44]
mircea_popescu: so elliott doesn't stand very good prospects. [14:45]
mircea_popescu: besides, there's a reason young males are the expendable biomass in all sexuate species. [14:45]
asciilifeform: somewhere in the back of the hindbrain, the gynecaeum inmates want this ruin to wait for'em, for the fortress to be... pregnable [14:45]
asciilifeform: it wasn't clear that the original, named elliot's problem was with the chix [14:46]
asciilifeform: it was 'with system' [14:46]
mircea_popescu: well yes. "how dares this world not justify its continued existence to me" [14:46]
asciilifeform: sorta like mircea_popescu's jar mouse , only superficially 'hated the glass' [14:46]
mircea_popescu: nah, mouse had a much flatter problem. [14:47]
asciilifeform: mouse did not, i suspect, devote rest of his days to smashing glass wherever found. [14:47]
mircea_popescu: animals don't hate. [14:47]
mircea_popescu: kinda why they've no rights. [14:47]
mircea_popescu: if the item will not play over multiple meets, it is not a subject of legal protection. [14:47]
mircea_popescu: only things that will hate, which is to say, punish you in this game for your misbehaviour in previous games, can possibly be protected by a law. [14:47]
asciilifeform: q is whether elliot is mouse, not whether mouse is a man [14:48]
mircea_popescu: seems to me he set out some standards for the world to meet, ie vehemently delicious pork chops and cali blonde private whore and when world failed to live to them he "terminated" it as best he could. [14:48]
mircea_popescu: the key part in the atomics-of-the-masses discussion is that "best he could". [14:49]
asciilifeform: ( does mircea_popescu much hang out with folx who see mouse as man ? it isn't a thing that'd normally occur to asciilifeform , say . where does he get the vegetarians ) [14:49]
mircea_popescu: he's ineffectual because why the fuck would we help him. [14:49]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i strive for variety. [14:49]
mircea_popescu: and in other news, holy shit reading the "venture capital" blogospam is A LOT like going through clinical notes on schizos with systematised delusionary processes. [15:15]
mircea_popescu: fucking tiresome. [15:15]
asciilifeform: nigerian prince spam moar interesting. [15:15]
mircea_popescu: interesting perhaps not the right word. nigerian prince a lot more like bangbros porn these idiots a lot more like jane fonda trying to pretend she's srsly acting in a srs film. [15:16]
mircea_popescu: she's a fucking workout trainer, but whatevers, can be anything amirite. [15:16]
BingoBoingo: In other delusionism << "Seemingly based on little more than innocuous Facebook photos, the dire warnings of conspiracy and "colour revolution"" << Hazards of allowing pantsuits a press [15:32]
shinohai: <<< *beep, beep beep* [15:37]
a111: Logged on 2017-10-04 18:03 asciilifeform: ( incidentally, happy sputnik day ) [15:37]
BingoBoingo: And further research on un-transparency << "According to the cover letter that accompanied this nine-page bukkake of whitewash, the State Department claims that providing any information at all about this public bar fight involving an U.S. Embassy staffer "would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion [15:51]
BingoBoingo: of personal privacy."" [15:51]
mircea_popescu: heh\ [16:22]
diana_coman: mod6, the online build (at least that one) of trb seems to require also bzip2 -> to add to deps at ? [16:42]
asciilifeform: ACHTUNG panzers! does anybody in l1 want a sage probe ( ) for anything, and dun have one yet ? i bought one from the d00d in the comments to my orig. article, for next-to-nothing . if any of you lot want it, it's yours for cost of postage [16:45]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: which part needs bzip ?? [16:47]
asciilifeform: i don't recall any such thing [16:47]
diana_coman: I don't recall that at the offline build either still, this time I tried the online build and... [16:47]
asciilifeform: diana_coman: post the barf plox [16:48]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile at the spurious knickers club retreat, [16:52]
asciilifeform: ... and then the tub tipped forward [16:52]
mircea_popescu: naa [16:53]
mircea_popescu: anyway, the lulzy part is that it's so plainly obvious who's the gf and who's the hired ho. [16:53]
asciilifeform: how's that [16:54]
mircea_popescu: well, gf knew what's gonna happen, so no makeup, wine blush. hireling didn't know, full make-up in tub, eye and cheek. [16:54]
asciilifeform: !~later tell BingoBoingo didja actually end up parked in south asia, or only on historic kick ? [16:57]
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded. [16:57]
asciilifeform: !#s brass pole in bangkok [16:57]
a111: 3 results for "brass pole in bangkok", [16:57]
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Historic kick would be a fair description [16:58]
deedbot: << Trilema - I ate some pie [16:59]
asciilifeform: ' 'Why do the nutrition facts tell me there are 25 crackers in a serving, 11 servings to a box? Just give me the nutrition facts for the whole damn box, that’s my serving size.' ' << lol!! [17:00]
diana_coman: asciilifeform, barf: [17:06]
asciilifeform: aaaaah buildroot. [17:06]
asciilifeform: aite. [17:06]
asciilifeform: ( btw is it clear that buildroot is only part of the trb universe because we dun have a musltronic linux to do ordinary stator builds in ? ) [17:07]
asciilifeform: ^ for completeness would also say ' a bsd would, in theory, work ' but practice has not confirmed : [17:10]
a111: Logged on 2017-08-06 03:01 asciilifeform: wedge at 168000 apparently. [17:10]
mod6: <+diana_coman> mod6, the online build (at least that one) of trb seems to require also bzip2 -> to add to deps at ? <+diana_coman> asciilifeform, barf: << noted, will add, thanks! [17:10]
shinohai: Run moar Gavinisms: [17:13]
asciilifeform: 'The consensus rules do not permit spending from a P2SH output that requires a >520 byte push.' ahahahahaha [17:14]
shinohai: "It's known that the limit is small, and this was a design flaw in BIP16 that was not noticed until several years later." [17:14]
asciilifeform: live by the gavin, die by the gavin. [17:14]
* hanbot 's not sure whether cr biodiversity or cr reasons for power outages has the more entries by now. [17:56]
hanbot: 3rd time this week, 5th week in a row, if i'm not mashing ctrl s in my sleep yet i'm sure it's coming. [17:57]
BingoBoingo: !~later tell mircea_popescu [18:40]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded. [18:40]
shinohai: <<< file under `Africa` BingoBoingo ? [19:30]
BingoBoingo: lol [19:31]
deedbot: << Trilema - A better man than I ? [19:46]
ben_vulpes: > Finally, we abuse Intel SGX to hide the attack entirely from the user and the operating system, making any inspection or detection of the attack infeasible. [20:12]
ben_vulpes: [20:12]
ben_vulpes: rowhammer, the gift that keeps on giving. [20:12]
asciilifeform: run moar ddr3 [20:12]
asciilifeform: incidentally if you dun let randos twiddler yer address lines ( i.e. run ffaically ) you dun get hammered. [20:15]
asciilifeform: here's a choice lulzgem: 'One-location hammering is based on a previously unknown Rowhammer effect. With one-location hammering, the attacker only runs a Flush+Reload loop on a single memory address at the maximum frequency. This virtually keeps the DRAM bank permanently open. We observed that one-location hammering drains enough charge from the DRAM cells to induce bit flips.' [20:19]
asciilifeform: and this is considered salable hardware ?! [20:19]
shinohai: I read this as "US Forces attacked by Niggers" [20:20]
asciilifeform: people laughed when they opened 1982 ibm pc and found working dram chips made of 3, 4 semidead ones soldered 'dead bug' on one another. but those WORKED. [20:20]
asciilifeform: 'The US is also in the process of establishing a new drone base just outside the city of Agadez in Niger in an effort to bolster regional counterterrorism efforts.' << mno attacked FORNOREASON!111 [20:21]
mod6: diana_coman, asciilifeform, mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, et. al. ok TRB HowTo updated with 'bzip2 tools [including bzcat]'/ [21:20]
mircea_popescu: wouldn't a simple tar gz do the job ? [21:21]
mod6: hmm. [21:23]
mod6: I believe the package that is required is 'bzip2'. [21:24]
mod6: (to pull in 'bzcat') [21:24]
mircea_popescu: why is this required though ? is it just because random idiots decided they need a SPECIAL rar for their ever so special code farts ? [21:24]
mod6: i dunno. for whatever reason her OS didn't have those tools ahead of time. [21:25]
asciilifeform: no, mircea_popescu has it [21:25]
mod6: seems like everyday orc-os gets worse. [21:25]
mod6: am I missing something? [21:25]
mircea_popescu: prolly cheaper to re-package the damned thing as a tar than to bake in bzip2 dependencies [21:26]
mircea_popescu: which will next import javascript [21:26]
mod6: oh for them? yeah, i dunno. [21:26]
mircea_popescu: da fuck i care about the extra... what is it, mb ? i got a 200gb blockchain ffs. [21:26]
asciilifeform: << in related lulz [21:27]
asciilifeform: 2013-12-27 [21:27]
trinque: thought it was buildroot asking for bzip2 [21:33]
asciilifeform: iirc it asks because kernel src used to ship as one [21:33]
mod6: hrm? [21:34]
mod6: it looks to me that ya, buildroot needs it. [21:34]
mod6: i don't think that because they used to bundle up the kernel as a bzip2 that means that average orc-os wouldn't have that tool set in the default userland,. [21:35]
mod6: seems to be two seperate things. [21:35]
mod6: oh,.. i see what you might be getting at. buildroot doesn't come with it because yadda yadda, no kernel needs that to unroll. [21:36]
asciilifeform: whole point of buildroot is to reduce pressure on the host os to minimum [21:36]
mod6: i see ya ya [21:36]
asciilifeform: 'gimme a c compiler and i will move the earth' is the notion. [21:36]
mod6: anyway, yeah, someday we'll get away from this wad. [21:37]
asciilifeform: on (currently hypothetical) musltronic 'cuntoo', you'd use good old stator makefile [21:38]
asciilifeform: and get same result that you currently need buildroot for on heathenlinux [21:38]
trinque: why not just ebuild, there [21:38]
trinque: whole point is to have total control over the OS [21:38]
asciilifeform: trinque: can't build musltronic elf on a glib-infested linux [21:39]
trinque: who proposed it [21:39]
mod6: yeah, i think emerge a trb would be the ticket, no? [21:39]
asciilifeform: (without buildroot or similar hack) [21:39]
trinque: there's musl gentoo [21:39]
asciilifeform: trinque: that's what i meant by 'cuntoo' [21:39]
trinque: ... [21:39]
* trinque clears throat [21:39]
asciilifeform: well, it, but with 0 heathen server deps [21:39]
trinque: why not use an ebuild to build instead of "stator" [21:39]
trinque: on cuntoo [21:39]
mod6: ^ [21:39]
asciilifeform: trinque: naturally it oughta be . [21:40]
mod6: So ordered. [21:40]
mod6: This will be quite awesome. "Here lies mod6. emerge trb" it will say. [21:47]
asciilifeform: trinque: didja ever write article re musltronic gentoos ? [21:47]
asciilifeform: their care & feeding [21:47]
trinque: didn't, no. [21:48]
trinque: primary difference is leaning on the "layman" thing to maintain a tree of patched ebuilds [21:49]
trinque: which, gentoo musl overlay is a git repo somewhere. whole thing would have to be repo'd for cuntoo [21:49]
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's mental picture of 'cuntoo' involves vtronic replacement of portage [21:50]
trinque: indeed [21:50]
trinque: I began reading portage source sometime last year, barfed [21:50]
asciilifeform: it's almost funny, thing nearly tried to be 'v' . [21:51]
asciilifeform: if you look at it at just-so angle. [21:51]
mircea_popescu: by the same angular measure, they tried to nearly not be v. [21:51]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's a fungus. mircea_popescu in particular is fond of reminding asciilifeform that fungi dun have with what to 'try' [21:52]
trinque: evolutionary thing, where various parts of the problem bit them, then they adapted what they had. [21:53]
trinque: *not* designed. [21:53]
mircea_popescu: the high level "fuck you, i own this world and everything in it and you will either adapt or fucking die, bitch" is... not really accessible, mentally, to kids with college degrees. [21:53]
mircea_popescu: kinda why any serious graduate programs in the us should include 6 months assbatical, spent twinking for drexl in baltimore. [21:54]
asciilifeform: wat's a drexl [21:55]
mod6: [22:03]
a111: Logged on 2016-04-08 22:17 mircea_popescu: this guy, thinks he's a nigger. got a bad scar and missing eye. [22:03]
asciilifeform: trinque: to this day i have nfi why portage weighs what it weighs, or what most of the liquishit does [22:15]
asciilifeform: afaik 100% of the useful functionality, reduces to 'half-written, buggy implementation of' v. [22:15]
asciilifeform: it also occurs to asciilifeform that he is doomed to at some point write something like a sane 'tinyscheme' in ada. so that we have a scripting lang and can finally pour the cement into grave of python. [22:16]
asciilifeform: however it would very conspicuously rock , imho, if one of you folx did this, instead of waiting. [22:17]
mod6: pretty cool idea [22:20]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform character in true romance. thinks he's black. [22:31]
BingoBoingo: !~ticker --market all [23:11]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 4227.28, vol: 8479.84309067 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 4230.0, vol: 27213.92913404 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 4229.3316, vol: 0 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 4236.1, vol: 3781.81198422 | Volume-weighted last average: 4230.00009829 [23:11]
BingoBoingo: !~bcstats [23:23]
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Current Blocks: 488356 | Current Difficulty: 1.123863285132E12 | Next Difficulty At Block: 489887 | Next Difficulty In: 1531 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 5 hours, 7 minutes, and 55 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [23:23]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in turning tricks graduate program, [23:25]
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