Forum logs for 01 Apr 2018

Monday, 16 March, Year 12 d.Tr. | Author:
mircea_popescu: doin' great. [00:04]
douchebag: nice nice [00:04]
douchebag: just heard some gunshots [00:05]
douchebag: wonder what that could be... [00:05]
douchebag: I'm glad I'm getting out of this shithole city very soon here [00:05]
mircea_popescu: "law enforcement" ? [00:05]
douchebag: mircea_popescu: I live in South Chicagoland, so that sort of thing is pretty "normal" here [00:05]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo used to live there iirc. [00:05]
douchebag: If you go to the ghetto side of town, you see houses with bullet holes in some of the houses [00:06]
mircea_popescu: hey, there's a whole facade riddled with bullet holes in downtown timisoara [00:06]
mircea_popescu: left from 1989 though. [00:06]
douchebag: I'm just glad I'm getting out of this shithole very soon [00:06]
mircea_popescu: where to ? [00:07]
douchebag: Travelling Europe [00:07]
mircea_popescu: so what, become a gypsy ? [00:07]
douchebag: Going to end up getting citizen and whatnot once I find a place to settle down [00:07]
mircea_popescu: a [00:07]
douchebag: I have a full time job working remotely, so I'll be just fine over there [00:08]
mircea_popescu: indeed. [00:08]
douchebag: Just not happy here anymore, haven't been for a long time. It's not a good sight to see everything going to hell and there's nothing I can do about it except leave [00:09]
mircea_popescu: seems to be the common experience of a lot of people. [00:09]
mircea_popescu: in fact, of most non-retarded white people. [00:09]
douchebag: This was a somewhat decent town when I was growing up, there were still the bad sides of town. But now there's homeless people EVERYWHERE, drug addicts, gang members, ect.. [00:10]
douchebag: I have a house full of crack dealers who just moved in adjacent to me [00:10]
mircea_popescu: ~nothing left for people to do. [00:10]
douchebag: It's mainly an issue of the whole mentality where people think they're entitled to success [00:11]
douchebag: Every black just seems to think their only chance for success is to become a famous rapper, and if they're not a famous rapper they choose to sell drugs instead of working a real job [00:12]
mircea_popescu: well, net access compressed the space of perceived possibility. 1949 people read about a murder done for 50k and thought it made sense. today's kids think a job that doesn't pay 1mn a year isn't really worth getting out of bed let alone good enough to commit murder. [00:12]
mircea_popescu: and from the other side of the double whammy, there.is.literally.nothing.to.do. [00:12]
douchebag: mircea_popescu: I know people around here who would kill for $800 [00:12]
douchebag: Considering murder is glorified by modern rap music [00:13]
trinque: you're in chiraq aren't you? [00:13]
douchebag: Yep [00:13]
douchebag: Slangin n bangin rock on the block, poppin shots at the opps, fuck the cops seems to be the mentality [00:13]
mircea_popescu: used to be that any stiff capable of walking could get a job. there are NO jobs now. nobody with an iq under 150 is or can be useful for anything except of course if female for the http://trilema.com/2016/an-immodest-proposal/#selection-53.0-71.1 purpose [00:13]
mircea_popescu: (which is why all the "SSI" and foodstamps etc bs) [00:14]
douchebag: I've had many jobs, in fact every job I have ever applied to - I got the job [00:14]
mircea_popescu: so yes, obviously dudes will go about enforcing the chaining on the state-supported breeder cows. what the fuck else, "go to new york to be a writer" ? [00:14]
mircea_popescu: douchebag the "no jobs -- nothing useful for normie to do" is a statistical argument, can't be invalidated by example. [00:15]
douchebag: Well, every job I have ever applied to - I got the job. It doesn't seem to be a lack of jobs, it's a lack of will to work like a normal person [00:15]
mircea_popescu: right. give me an example ? [00:16]
trinque: horse shit, where are the great projects of mid last century to entomb the ablebodied men in wet concrete? [00:16]
mircea_popescu: trinque consider this lulzy angle -- in 1940 they could get a few hundred to about 1200 or so young men to go up on a boat. wake up every day, clean the deck, no girls for two years. [00:17]
douchebag: Working at a bar bussing tables, working at a furniture store moving boxes, working at a shipping facility, working at a security firm [00:17]
mircea_popescu: imagine if they had to man the pacific fleet today. what the fuck, 1 mn draftees per ship, shoot 10k a day for rank failure. [00:17]
mircea_popescu: douchebag do you see the "no economic utility" approach re all those jobs ? [00:17]
douchebag: Yes [00:18]
douchebag: However, sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do to get by and it doesn't have to involve robbing people or selling crack [00:19]
mircea_popescu: yes, and good for you if you manage but don't be surprised when most don't. that's the nature of statistics. [00:19]
trinque: crack's there, where other things aren't [00:19]
mircea_popescu: who could have predicted (tm) that "we'll make an economy out of doing each other's laundry" nonsense will soon devolve of "we're stuck here, crabs in a pot, trying to sling an array of pointless dopes on each other". [00:20]
douchebag: I don't know a single person who doesn't use drugs here. Whether it be weed or shotting heroin up your arm [00:20]
douchebag: shooting* [00:20]
mircea_popescu: douchebag or thinking they're "entrepreneurs" headed to sf or "actresses" headed to hollywood or "talented" headed to shitty-platform.com or so on. [00:21]
douchebag: Yes [00:21]
douchebag: Oh my god... [00:21]
mircea_popescu: there is no substantial difference between smoking crack and checking your roth ira [00:21]
douchebag: That resonates very well with me [00:21]
douchebag: Most people I know, especially college students seem to think that they're going to be famous - and if they're not famous they keep reaching towards unachievable goals [00:22]
douchebag: Some of them even admit to having no skill - yet still feel entitled [00:22]
mircea_popescu: douchebag you ever saw tlp btw ? i guess you might enjoy. iirc he also lived somewhere great-lakes-ish. even got held up by a "patient" once [00:22]
douchebag: mircea_popescu: I've got bullet fragments lodged in my leg due to a driveby shooting at a gas station [00:23]
mircea_popescu: in other "motherfucking hell" : linux got " US/German/French/Finnish keyboards" in v 0.11! along with other boneheaded idiocies like "code/data sharing between unrelated processes". wonder of wonders, there was actually NO philosophical community here, since the get-go. pure incidentals. [00:24]
mircea_popescu: douchebag hey, me too, almost exactly. [00:24]
douchebag: What happened w/ your situation? [00:24]
mircea_popescu: that's still a mystery. [00:24]
douchebag: Fucked up thing about my situation, a week prior I was at a different gas station and bullets went flying there. Didn't get hit [00:25]
douchebag: Next week I get shot in the fucking leg [00:25]
douchebag: while pumping gas [00:25]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/forum-logs-for-30-sep-2017#2344122 [00:27]
a111: Logged on 2017-09-30 20:05 mircea_popescu: the only extra hole in my hide i acquired through ricochet under car, nearly lost a knee. [00:27]
douchebag: Glad you're okay friend, shit's crazy [00:27]
mircea_popescu: somehow i never cared that much. [00:30]
douchebag: I'm just glad I'll be awake from here in about two months [00:30]
douchebag: away* [00:31]
mircea_popescu: sounds like a sound plan you got, check out the euro hussies, find a spot to settle down somewhat. [00:31]
douchebag: Yeah I can't wait [00:31]
douchebag: Can't wait to try some of the foods - and my girlfriend is a great cook and loves cooking for me [00:35]
mircea_popescu: you never been outside of the us huh ? that may promise to be quite the shock, like kid born in prison getting out. [00:36]
douchebag: I'll be in Poland staring off, any Polish foods you'd suggest me trying? [00:36]
mircea_popescu: i dunno about specifically polish, but sure, try the pirogi, try the blinyii, they should be capable of doing the north-eastern stuff well enough. [00:37]
douchebag: and no, I've never been in any where farther than the surrounding states of Illinois [00:37]
mircea_popescu: try all the soups once or twice starting with borrscht and move down. [00:37]
mircea_popescu: but really, just try everything. in restaurants! good ones! [00:38]
douchebag: That's the plan! [00:38]
mircea_popescu: were in poland were you going ? warsaw was it ? [00:38]
douchebag: Gdansk [00:38]
mircea_popescu: bistro de paris ah. [00:39]
mircea_popescu: hm. [00:39]
douchebag: I'm excited to see the sea for the first time [00:39]
douchebag: Especially during the summer [00:39]
mircea_popescu: it's a shitty sea though. but better than nothing i guess. [00:39]
douchebag: Oh yeah, I realize that - I just think it'll be nice to finally see the sea [00:40]
mircea_popescu: they actually had a great pirogi place in gdansk but i don't remember it now. somewhere downtown. [00:40]
douchebag: I've been to Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Missouri, Tenessee, and Wisconsin [00:40]
douchebag: Awesome, can't wait to try it man. You really don't understand how happy this makes me to know I'll be out of this shithole [00:41]
mircea_popescu: i've seen it before lol. [00:42]
* trinque still doesn't mind TX, could be wrong [00:46]
trinque: but if douchebag can get out, go for it, see everything you can [00:46]
mircea_popescu: travel's important. especially for the young squirt. [00:46]
douchebag: Texas sounds like one of the nicer states [00:47]
douchebag: I like the nationalism [00:48]
trinque: mostly because it doesn't want to be one [00:48]
mircea_popescu: but yes, if memory serves san antonio was the only livable city in the us, and that's in texas. [00:48]
trinque: aha [00:48]
mircea_popescu: hanbot so where's your blog ? [11:43]
hanbot: waiting for pizarro people to figure out php-mysql. from what i can tell they've been hacking at it all week. [11:45]
mircea_popescu: ugh [11:45]
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes what is she talking about "? [11:46]
ben_vulpes: user-local MySQL install is the last roadblock [11:58]
ben_vulpes: http://logs.bvulpes.com/pizarro?d=2018-3-29#321883 [11:59]
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 16:45 asciilifeform: i would like to prove that 1995-style unixdir 'a la static' hosting is possible today, and with mp's php. [11:59]
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform discovered that it is impossible to get a per-user fastcgi hosting arrangement in place, as both apache and i believe nginx desperately want root [12:01]
ben_vulpes: so i set up per-user fpm pools which work, but i'm at sea on how asciilifeform put together and ran his user-local mysql install. [12:01]
ben_vulpes: cutting through a bunch of vines that the rest of the worlds use of vm's has let grow over useful, low-overhead tech. [12:02]
mircea_popescu: user-local mysql ? [12:08]
mircea_popescu: but why ?! [12:08]
mircea_popescu: now look here you nutjobs. mysql run once per user is WORSE a situation than the kernel run once per user. both apache and mysql are made to be one-for-all. this is not something you can negotiate by yourselves on the quiet in a day. [12:09]
mircea_popescu: mysql has a permissions structure, why not fucking use it. [12:10]
mircea_popescu: and moreover, when you tell me it's gonna be a day a week ago and then send your people on an insane mission through the jungle to build you a mountaintop aircraft submarine, you'd better fucking say something. [12:10]
mircea_popescu: what, you thought nobody'd notice ? [12:10]
ben_vulpes: no, i thought the noticing would happen of what was being said over in the boatyard [12:11]
ben_vulpes: i'll be sure to file updates here as well going forward [12:11]
mircea_popescu: nevermind filing fucking updates. get the hounds off the insanity of chasing "user-local mysql", if it's what i imagine it is. [12:13]
mircea_popescu: the ONLY reason lamp is even fucking useful, at all, is that the idiots in charge of the shitmachine got a web thing that could be cooked in ~2 hours. [12:13]
mircea_popescu: you can't possibly take more than that to get the thing up and running. now get to it. [12:14]
ben_vulpes: k [12:17]
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other nostalgia, kibo still breathes! http://www.kibo.com/kibokill/ << check out the GUI shots. [12:36]
deedbot: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2018/04/01/growing-disgust/ << Bingo Blog - Growing Disgust [13:07]
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo mounth ? [13:16]
BingoBoingo: ty fxd [13:16]
mircea_popescu: casado/cansado huh [13:18]
mircea_popescu: i think they know what they're doing. [13:18]
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Aha, they do [13:20]
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2018/04/more-than-a-week-after-ransomware-strike-us-municipality-remains-crippled/ << Qntra - More Than A Week After Ransomware Strike US Municipality Remains Crippled [13:20]
mircea_popescu: lmao jonah@geniusesatwork.com [13:21]
mircea_popescu: jesus christ there's solid comedy gold in the trilema mounthains [13:21]
BingoBoingo: There is so much comedy gold there [13:22]
BingoBoingo: !!up zineKing [13:23]
deedbot: zineKing voiced for 30 minutes. [13:23]
BingoBoingo: zineKing: Who is your daddy, what does he do, and how does he unpack the gnu symbol in your head today? [13:25]
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-01#1791878 << On this point the Northern Latinas, Venezolanas y Peruanas (And Chileñas though they aren't too much more Northern) know what they are doing. As long as the response is playful they remain worshipful. Uruguayas and it seems most Argentinas... whatever triggers their Laughs-Estrogen-Fun cycle seems to be broken. Deeply. [13:44]
a111: Logged on 2018-04-01 17:18 mircea_popescu: i think they know what they're doing. [13:44]
mircea_popescu: yawell. [13:44]
mircea_popescu: not everyone should reproduce. [13:44]
BingoBoingo: True. Still not sure where all the children come from here, but they sure do love making a show out of torturing their parents. [13:47]
BingoBoingo: Last Sunday I had the priviledge of seeing one of the little monsters dive into the foot of a male probably relative (can't tell if cuck or father) and got himself good and kicked in the head while tripping the victim. [13:51]
mircea_popescu: i think this is rape. [13:52]
BingoBoingo: Or course it is. [13:53]
BingoBoingo: And colonialism [13:54]
BingoBoingo: I am rather surprised this place isn't more popular with the alt-alt white Pepe set. No good reason Dixie can't move further South. [13:56]
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-26#1789746 << that. [13:56]
a111: Logged on 2018-03-26 16:06 mircea_popescu: anyway. boston managed to make "the defining question" be "what does america want to see ?" and then managed to convince the midwest that what california people think is hip is bostonolade then took those numbers and showed california that "what america wants to see!!" is bostonolade. [13:56]
mircea_popescu: boston told them it's impossible to travel, no such thing as learning languages or handling non-pantsuit fiatola currency is possible for human hands and minds. [13:57]
mircea_popescu: and they believe, because that's what it means to be a retard : you trust your parents. even the ones that whore you out since you were 3yo. [13:57]
BingoBoingo: It's no small irony that the Make Alt-Alt Again folks... Or USian rebels in general will come so close to getting things right... Then they drink the Bostonolade that keeps them home. [14:06]
BingoBoingo: Identify the empire is collapse, sure they can do it. [14:06]
mircea_popescu: not more than the "rebelious" preteens that still go home to eat. [14:06]
BingoBoingo: Contemplate GTFO? Nah they have a zombie apocalypse to wait for. [14:07]
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/heres-what-hasnt-changed/ << Trilema - Here's what hasn't changed [14:08]
BingoBoingo: Or a bunker to feed while they wait for Kim Jung to save them [14:08]
mircea_popescu: ^ "Web browsers are fragile assemblies of bugs, held together with Hello Kitty stickers." [14:17]
BingoBoingo: http://www.kibo.com/style/kibo-style.css << This is a beauty [14:18]
mircea_popescu: basically, nothing has happened in twenty years. [14:57]
phf: i'm also disappointed that battlestar galactica date can not be reversed into system date to figure out when the messages were posted. [15:12]
mircea_popescu: phf early dec 1998 [15:21]
mircea_popescu: it's somewhat of a companion to the "what's changed" piece [15:22]
mircea_popescu: https://www.wired.com/1993/04/kibo-is-god/ << back when wired was impossible colors and fell over itself to suck our cock, rather than pompously pretend to tell anyone what's what. [15:24]
mircea_popescu: aanyway. lobbes can the kibo site be added to archival ? [15:24]
ave1: mircea_popescu, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-26#1789665, how do you get to 80 for for the 25 case? [15:29]
a111: Logged on 2018-03-26 14:08 mircea_popescu: https://steemit.com/introducemyself/@anonymint/introspection-interlude << in other bizarre. maybe someone point out to the dude that there's a 2 and a 5 in any 10, and since the 5 is in short supply n! will have one zero for each 5, two for each 25 and 3 for each 625, meaning 1000! will have 200 + 80 + 1. [15:29]
ave1: seems to me it has te be 40 [15:29]
mircea_popescu: ave1 1000 / 25 = 40, each of which is two instances of 5, so 80 [15:29]
ave1: yep but the first was already counted in the 5 [15:31]
mircea_popescu: ah right you are. [15:31]
mircea_popescu: i guess i was wise enough to do the 625 correcty, so all bases are covered. [15:31]
ave1: yes [15:31]
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, catholic easter is on 1st of april this year ? [15:35]
mircea_popescu: how perfectly postmodernist. [15:35]
jurov: it aligned with resurrection so that's okay. few years ago it aligned with crucifixion. [15:50]
ben_vulpes: !!hanbot [19:00]
ben_vulpes: !!key hanbot [19:00]
deedbot: http://wot.deedbot.org/EA0FAD90985B3025576A5061454B0FC0BC07B87E.asc [19:00]
mircea_popescu: holy shit kibo's signature includes a reference to http://trilema.com/2011/ochiul-lui-argorn-de-jim-theis/ [19:56]
* mircea_popescu falls over [19:56]
douchebag: mircea_popescu: are you a member of the mile high club [20:09]
mircea_popescu: is that "people who fuck in an airplane" ? [20:11]
douchebag: yes [20:11]
mircea_popescu: sure. [20:11]
douchebag: any suggestions for becoming a part of this exlclusive club without getting caught [20:12]
mircea_popescu: yes. not caring about getting caught. [20:12]
douchebag: Awesome [20:12]
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/filosoful-luminii-de-neon.png << in other antiquary. [20:14]
mircea_popescu: "HOWEVER YOU CAN'T SUE ME FOR SAYING ANY OF THIS BECAUSE IF YOU SUE ME YOU'D HAVE TO QUOTE ME IN COURT AND THEN I'D SUE YOU FOR QUOTING THIS COPYRIGHTED (C) MESSAGE!!! MY COUSINS ARE ALL LAWYERS !!!!!" <<< turns out the whole SOPS thing actually originated as a usenet joke. [21:05]
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-01#1791914 << If you wanna throw specific urls into the automated archive hopper, then just dump em in chan. [21:08]
a111: Logged on 2018-04-01 19:24 mircea_popescu: aanyway. lobbes can the kibo site be added to archival ? [21:08]
lobbes: Or did you mean you want me to mirror everything in, say, http://www.kibo.com/rawdata/ like I did with Uncle Al writings? Either way, I'll go ahead and mirror the stuff in /rawdata/ shouldn't take long at all [21:08]
mircea_popescu: like with uncle al yes [21:08]
mircea_popescu: want me to generate a sitemap for you or ? [21:08]
mircea_popescu: wget -m http://www.kibo.com 2>&1 | grep '^--' | awk '{ print $3 }' | grep -v '\.\(css\|js\|png\|gif\|jpg\|JPG\)$' > urls.txt [21:09]
lobbes: nice. aite, I'll let ya know once it is up [21:10]
mircea_popescu: ty [21:10]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/z82eN/?raw=true [21:31]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: miskeyed [21:51]
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-01#1791929 << this is a megaspoofclassic, i actually have it in dead tree [21:55]
a111: Logged on 2018-04-01 23:56 mircea_popescu: holy shit kibo's signature includes a reference to http://trilema.com/2011/ochiul-lui-argorn-de-jim-theis/ [21:55]
asciilifeform: 'eye of argon' in orig [21:55]
lobbes: !!deed http://lobbesblog.com/billing/2018/q1/Birdman.txt [21:57]
deedbot: accepted: 1 [21:57]
lobbes: !!deed http://lobbesblog.com/billing/2018/q1/diana_coman.txt [21:57]
deedbot: accepted: 1 [21:57]
lobbes: ^^ q1 auction bot billz (slow quarter!). Mainly for accounting purposes no rush on collecting due to eulora servers being down and the fact that the sums are a mere 96 satoshi each [21:57]
* asciilifeform bbl [21:58]
mircea_popescu: word. [22:01]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/szODR/?raw=true [22:05]
mircea_popescu: sorry bout that [22:05]
lobbes: btw I'm loving this multi-chan log-quote ability ben_vulpes. I bet this becomes a soft requirement for logotron relevancy as the peripheral 'castles' continue to be added/populated [22:10]
deedbot: http://deedbot.org/bundle-516215.txt [22:15]
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/dbjEe/?raw=true [22:16]
mircea_popescu: certainly a fine residual incentive for lord to maintain logotron -- get the ability to reference castle logs in here. [22:18]
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform easter, possibly. let's see tomorro. [22:18]
asciilifeform: aa ok. aite [22:18]
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