Forum logs for 30 Mar 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 63050 @ 0.00026717 = 16.8451 BTC [+] {2} [00:00]
nubbins` at least two? o.O [00:03]
nubbins` clever, lazy, and stupid, say? [00:03]
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Adlai say what? [00:06]
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Apocalyptic nubbins`, from what follows it seems it's exactly 2 [00:11]
ben_vulpes surely there's a tripartate tradeoff to be made here [00:12]
ben_vulpes clever, industrious, (???) - pick two [00:13]
nubbins` Adlai (clever/stupid), (lazy/industrious) but he says all his officers had /at least/ two of the qualities [00:14]
nubbins` black, white, hot, cold. pick three :D [00:14]
Adlai !s impossible color [00:15]
assbot 4 results for 'impossible color' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=impossible+color [00:15]
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mats i rather like the way de officer training works [00:30]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 165481 @ 0.0002713 = 44.895 BTC [+] {2} [00:34]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7460 @ 0.00027337 = 2.0393 BTC [+] [00:35]
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mats us mil incentives for officers is rather broken imo [00:41]
mats lotta mustangs (enlisted-to-officer types) get fucked monetarily and often don't pass major/LTC because of the way officers are compelled to go "up or out" [00:42]
ben_vulpes "economic draft", not news. [00:43]
ben_vulpes !up Vexual [00:44]
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ben_vulpes goal is to make more plebs dependent on the state, not a greater army. [00:44]
mats i wonder how much demand there is for another mpexbot [00:49]
mats did the original thing pass orders? or just report the book? [00:49]
Vexual hey if i fit all four of general vont kuntzs decriptors, does that neccessitate my immediate removal TO the highest command? [00:52]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48720 @ 0.00027535 = 13.4151 BTC [+] [00:54]
decimation http://nacin.com/2015/03/29/us-digital-service/ < lol now you can volunteer to help usg [00:54]
assbot I’ve joined the White House’s U.S. Digital Service | Nacin ... ( http://bit.ly/1DiMduX ) [00:54]
mod6 mats: both [00:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 115782 @ 0.00027598 = 31.9535 BTC [+] {2} [01:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 166499 @ 0.00027525 = 45.8288 BTC [-] {4} [01:01]
mats $vwap s.mpoe [01:05]
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decimation ;;ticker [01:11]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 245.59, Best ask: 245.62, Bid-ask spread: 0.03000, Last trade: 245.62, 24 hour volume: 37807.03512289, 24 hour low: 236.24, 24 hour high: 252.0, 24 hour vwap: None [01:11]
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nubbins` risc os: wat [01:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67928 @ 0.00027013 = 18.3494 BTC [-] [01:25]
asciilifeform nubbins`: wai where ?! [01:28]
asciilifeform jurov that piece is, roughly speaking, the result of a cat reading a mayan calendar and inputting the result into google translate. << it's actually a -double- ripoff. actually a condensed plagiarism of 'the roman guide to slave management' (j. toner) - an equally 'zebra hitler'-y work [01:30]
asciilifeform (what's a 'zebra hitler' ? it is this kind of 'historical' work. as exemplified by http://www.pbfcomics.com/209 ) [01:30]
assbot The Perry Bible Fellowship ... ( http://bit.ly/1Id8DeJ ) [01:30]
nubbins` asciilifeform heh, it's available for raspi. got me reading. a true anomaly [01:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 112843 @ 0.00026884 = 30.3367 BTC [-] {3} [01:35]
asciilifeform nubbins`: risc os is an interesting '80s relic [01:36]
asciilifeform msdos-era thingie, with graphics and cooperative multitasking [01:36]
asciilifeform (one fandangoing proggy can hose machine) [01:36]
nubbins` apparently there's a band of weirdos still polishing it [01:36]
asciilifeform like the beos folks, yes [01:36]
nubbins` aha [01:37]
nubbins` bebox! [01:37]
asciilifeform i suspect there will be folks worshipping '80s detritus for many, many years [01:37]
asciilifeform like the barbarians decorating sword hilts with pieces of roman mosaic in 500 ad [01:37]
asciilifeform hell, we're all using '70s os [01:38]
nubbins` or adults watching 80s cartoons on youtube [01:38]
nubbins` 8) [01:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 100550 @ 0.00026428 = 26.5734 BTC [-] {2} [01:38]
nubbins` spent an enjoyable evening getting a gentoo vm up and running from scratch, in the meantime [01:38]
decimation asciilifeform: might as well run it on a 6502 chip :) [01:40]
nubbins` meantime, anyone run into this? make: Nothing to be done for 'pogoplug_defconfig'. [01:44]
asciilifeform nubbins`: let me guess, already built once ? [01:44]
asciilifeform that part just copies configs to the correct spots, it doesn't build anything [01:44]
asciilifeform gotta 'make' after that. [01:44]
nubbins` ah. [01:44]
asciilifeform read the recipe again [01:45]
asciilifeform step 8 - 10 [01:45]
nubbins` ok, here we go [01:52]
ben_vulpes nubbins` abandoning the macbox? [02:00]
nubbins` nah, dat shiny window manager. running gentoo via virtualbox [02:00]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: built pogotron yet ? [02:00]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48600 @ 0.00027548 = 13.3883 BTC [+] [02:22]
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ben_vulpes asciilifeform: i might get to it tomorrow night [02:48]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform yeah, straight plagiarism would require reading source material. [03:35]
mircea_popescu i doubt anyone in the usacademia has read anything first hand in the past three decades. [03:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83600 @ 0.00027232 = 22.766 BTC [-] {2} [03:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70534 @ 0.00026587 = 18.7529 BTC [-] [03:36]
mircea_popescu https://www.google.com/search?q=primo,+latinam+studere << google first hit for me is here. [03:37]
assbot primo, latinam studere - Google zoeken ... ( http://bit.ly/1IIPkLa ) [03:37]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo win. [03:37]
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mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-03-2015#1079265 << would readily explain what's wrong with the us. [03:44]
assbot Logged on 30-03-2015 01:48:44; Adlai: deal with all situations. But whoever is stupid and industrious must be removed immediately." - Attributed, circa 1933; General Baron Kurt von Hammerstein-Equord (1878-1943); German Chief of Army Command (1930-33) [03:44]
mircea_popescu they took the opposite tack. [03:44]
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mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-03-2015#1079288 http://trilema.com/2013/the-many-ways-available-for-talking-to-mpex/ full work sample quoted there. [03:45]
assbot Logged on 30-03-2015 03:45:30; mats: did the original thing pass orders? or just report the book? [03:45]
assbot The many ways available for talking to MPEx pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1IIPRgj ) [03:45]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform basically, "the protocols of the elders of zion" is not an isolated product, much like the spec of dust that has a light shone on just right isn't the only spec available in the area. [03:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.0002631 = 4.2359 BTC [-] {2} [03:46]
mircea_popescu http://www.pbfcomics.com/209 << original zebra hitler [03:47]
assbot The Perry Bible Fellowship ... ( http://bit.ly/1Id8DeJ ) [03:47]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31200 @ 0.00026271 = 8.1966 BTC [-] [04:14]
cazalla g'evening all.. so what do exactly do i need to access the pogo via serial port? [04:16]
cazalla seen a few diff serial cables around so it's all a bit new to me [04:17]
trinque cazalla: http://danielpbarron.com/pogo/howto.txt << soldering instructions here, as well as net console [04:19]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1DWH0qn ) [04:19]
trinque I used the net console method without issue [04:19]
cazalla thanks trinque [04:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19522 @ 0.00026881 = 5.2477 BTC [+] {2} [04:35]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30391 @ 0.0002736 = 8.315 BTC [-] [04:45]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88270 @ 0.00027354 = 24.1454 BTC [-] {2} [05:15]
BingoBoingo !up Vexual [05:28]
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Vexual heyo [05:28]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20000 @ 0.00026273 = 5.2546 BTC [-] [05:30]
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Vexual qantas to put highly trained hosties in the cockpit while the pilot takes a piss. Is'nt that what just happened? [05:33]
Vexual heck i don't need a piss on a 14 hour flight, the drinks come so slow [05:35]
Vexual hey look, im tweeting [05:39]
BingoBoingo O.o [05:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46165 @ 0.00026272 = 12.1285 BTC [-] {2} [05:41]
Vexual just the general form of my prose bb [05:45]
BingoBoingo Ah [05:49]
Vexual @ventti envoyez plus de trucs gratuits [05:52]
Vexual thats why twitter doent work, noone does it [05:54]
BingoBoingo I see [05:57]
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thestringpuller mornings [06:02]
BingoBoingo !up Vexual [06:04]
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Vexual morin tsp [06:07]
Vexual id buy yall a coffee, but its better to wake up slowly [06:12]
thestringpuller i went to bed 8 hours ago, so I'm wide awake [06:14]
thestringpuller gonna start going to bed as the sun goes down like an old person [06:14]
Vexual wise beyond your years i suppose [06:15]
thestringpuller I'd rather wake up when everyone is asleep cuz I hate people. [06:16]
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Vexual thats why i dont drink on nye [06:16]
Vexual drunks errywhere [06:18]
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Vexual also i got caught on an instroke with friedcat/havelock [06:20]
Vexual i was almost finished too [06:21]
BingoBoingo !up bb_ [06:21]
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Vexual fxkin oriental sex manufacturer dolls [06:27]
BingoBoingo Vexual: Still better than the Inuit doll manufcterer sex [06:28]
Vexual oooh rawhide? [06:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72500 @ 0.00025761 = 18.6767 BTC [-] [06:31]
BingoBoingo rawhide and bear oil for lube [06:32]
Vexual yeah i might stick with camgirls and waterbased [06:33]
Vexual ive herad that bearoil gets adulterated with amphetamines eh [06:34]
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thestringpuller !up Vexual [06:40]
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thestringpuller that nicotine buzz lol [06:40]
thestringpuller !up Xuthus [06:40]
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Vexual melbourne to ban smoking in the cbd [06:45]
Vexual yes i bought a tv; the foxtel girl never came back, and she left a diamond earring?! wtf [06:46]
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Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XszE4RynIKU big rock [06:55]
Vexual first things i saw [06:56]
Vexual why she was selling cable i dunno [06:57]
Vexual gap year i can only suppose [06:57]
Vexual dumb as shit, musta someone bought em for her [06:58]
Vexual prolly working for the govt in france nao [06:59]
Vexual head coked to one side [07:00]
Vexual that should read cocked [07:00]
Vexual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CwmhYw6NMk [07:08]
Vexual ;;seen duffer [07:08]
gribble duffer was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 35 weeks, 3 days, 6 hours, 48 minutes, and 2 seconds ago: ya saw earlier today as it happened /wish i had free capital [07:08]
Vexual fuck that long [07:08]
Vexual research must be going well [07:08]
Vexual hmmm... [07:09]
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BingoBoingo !up Vexual [07:12]
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Vexual does he go by another handle? [07:15]
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jurov Vexual waitwhat? you fapped to friedcat/havelock using bear oil? [07:23]
Vexual no, but i was in for a few bits when he dissappeared [07:23]
jurov in where? [07:24]
Vexual well, havelock essentially [07:25]
Vexual coinbr is next [07:25]
Vexual i love a bit of inout [07:25]
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Vexual shh [07:26]
jurov er.. i meant gave up :DDD [07:27]
Vexual shh [07:27]
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Vexual yeah im kinda broke now [07:29]
jurov !ticker [07:30]
assbot You had the last Philistine. This one's mine. [07:30]
jurov ;;ticker [07:30]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 245.98, Best ask: 245.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 245.99, 24 hour volume: 33440.25854513, 24 hour low: 236.24, 24 hour high: 252.0, 24 hour vwap: None [07:30]
Vexual where are you from anyay? [07:31]
Vexual i know naphex and nano now, but i still cant slovakia slovenia [07:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85169 @ 0.00026646 = 22.6941 BTC [+] {2} [07:32]
jurov it's euro in-joke [07:33]
Vexual what? it's the same? [07:33]
jurov shh [07:34]
Vexual lol [07:34]
Vexual i must depart, ive spilt things [07:38]
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jurov !t m s.mpex [09:18]
assbot The round stones beneath the earth... have spoken through the fire. [09:18]
jurov !t m s.mpoe [09:18]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00025715 / 0.0002675 / 0.0002812 (4589948 shares, 1,227.82 BTC), 7D: 0.0001443 / 0.0002492 / 0.00028207 (25918080 shares, 6,458.81 BTC), 30D: 0.0001443 / 0.00031363 / 0.0004493 (89667991 shares, 28,122.63 BTC) [09:18]
jurov !t m s.qntr [09:18]
assbot [MPEX:S.QNTR] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00020808 / 0.00020865 / 0.00021 (10000 shares, 2.09 BTC), 30D: 0.00020808 / 0.00024784 / 0.00028609 (45159 shares, 11.19 BTC) [09:18]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00026082 = 1.4345 BTC [-] [15:28]
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ascii_field that thing is epic [15:29]
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ascii_field subpoenas without legal authority? check. involvement of main detectives in btc scamming -check.. [15:29]
ascii_field makes the original ulbricht accusation look like a total snorefest [15:29]
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BingoBoingo Updated to include the document [15:30]
BingoBoingo !up ascii_field [15:30]
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ascii_field BingoBoingo: i suggest unzipping [15:30]
ascii_field so folks can link to the pages [15:31]
mircea_popescu now i gotta read this [15:31]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: mega-l0ltr0n [15:31]
ascii_field won't regret reading [15:31]
mircea_popescu http://qntra.net/2015/03/federal-agents-who-persecuted-ulbricht-arrested/ << o look at that. [15:31]
assbot Federal Agents Who Persecuted Ulbricht Arrested | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1abwpgV ) [15:31]
mircea_popescu check out that crazy mp saying the usms thing was fraudulent! [15:31]
mircea_popescu who would have believed it &c. [15:31]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: they don't admit -all of it- having been pinched [15:32]
mircea_popescu check out that crazy mp telling sec to back up its supoenas in writing. [15:32]
mircea_popescu check out that crazy mp each and every fucking way! [15:32]
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ascii_field read the damn thing, prepare to pick yourself up from floor [15:32]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i will be forever grateful if qntra breaks with the general trend in the "press" and actually points out that MP knew this months ago. [15:33]
ben_vulpes > froze a coinmkt account and transferred it to himself [15:33]
ben_vulpes noice [15:33]
mircea_popescu also it's prosecuted not persecuted, unless intentional. [15:34]
BingoBoingo also it's prosecuted not persecuted, unless intentional. << Totally intentional. Preet prosecuted, thugs merely persecuted. With pogroms and fake assassinens [15:34]
mircea_popescu aha. [15:35]
mircea_popescu good thing they got the conviction through BEFORE saying these people were felons [15:35]
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mircea_popescu that way they don't have to explain to the judge why the testimony of convicted felons should be taken seriously. [15:35]
BingoBoingo Also this is why the Maryland murder for hire thing couldn't be tried [15:35]
mircea_popescu now let's see the da that KNEW THIS and made this call prosecuted under rico. [15:35]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo exactly. [15:36]
mircea_popescu it's not like the guy in charge didn't KNOW what was happening. [15:36]
mircea_popescu he knew, lied to the judge - which is enough for disbarment, and broke half the laws in the book, which is enough for 20 to life. [15:36]
mircea_popescu especially as he conspired with others to do so, who idem 20 to life. [15:36]
mircea_popescu now let's see this thing actually done. [15:36]
BingoBoingo BingoBoingo i will be forever grateful if qntra breaks with the general trend in the "press" and actually points out that MP knew this months ago. << perhaps you want to take this one on? My venom sacs are running low after the disappearing lawsuit and this happening. [15:37]
mircea_popescu because no, i won't be impressed or satisfied with a coupla muppet heads cracked open. [15:37]
mircea_popescu notrly. [15:37]
ascii_field pigs will fly, and above speed of light too, before this is prosecuted. [15:37]
mircea_popescu ascii_field makes no difference. [15:37]
ben_vulpes ascii_field: the crime was not giving the privkeys to the bossman, if i read correctly [15:37]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes in the system they live in, this is a crime. [15:38]
ben_vulpes "i was afraid of offending if I sent too little and looking foolish if i sent too much." [15:39]
ben_vulpes yeah, this is just the guy who got *busted* for operating SR. [15:39]
mircea_popescu actually fuck it, i guess it's time to write a cv. [15:40]
ben_vulpes it boggles the mind that Force got DPR using gpg. [15:40]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: cv? [15:40]
mats resume. [15:43]
ben_vulpes mats: der, but for himself, force, dpr? [15:44]
ben_vulpes "additional pieces of circumstantial evidence prove that FORCE is "French Maid." Both "French Maid" and Force (operating as "Nob") used the exact same brand of PGP software,a feww brand called GnuPG. There are different brands of PGP software, so it is noteworthy that both FORCE (operating as "Nob") and "French Maid" used the same brand." [15:44]
ben_vulpes look at them flail, trying to apply their old tactics of identity discovery to the new world. [15:44]
BingoBoingo !b 2 [15:44]
assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0DH0ZV7.txt ) [15:44]
ben_vulpes "they also both used the same outdated version of that software 1.4.12" [15:45]
ben_vulpes "...the outdated version that both "French Maid" and FORCE (as Nob) used is more of a "signature" given the greater number of versions available." [15:45]
ben_vulpes listen up, logreaders. [15:45]
chetty omg, we all log on to b-a, must be the same person [15:46]
ben_vulpes there is only one kind of signature that can prove identity in this marvelous world where grownups use crypto. [15:46]
ben_vulpes a fucking signature. [15:46]
ben_vulpes it starts like this [15:46]
ben_vulpes -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- [15:46]
ascii_field ben_vulpes: ever sit on a jury in usa? recall what it was like ? [15:47]
ben_vulpes ascii_field: they don't let real humans actually sit. [15:47]
ascii_field ben_vulpes: l0l i did [15:47]
ben_vulpes how hard did you work to get through voire dire? [15:47]
ascii_field was a petty theft case but very instructive [15:47]
ascii_field ben_vulpes: got lucky [15:47]
ben_vulpes what is it with you and self flagellation with the usg scourge [15:48]
ascii_field anyway, this crud is not intended to prove anything to jury, but to the defense attorney [15:48]
mircea_popescu lmao it's totally notable yeah [15:48]
ben_vulpes correct. [15:48]
mircea_popescu as in "he uses terrorists brand" [15:48]
ascii_field namely that he should tell his client to plead [15:48]
ascii_field because 'surrender now, watertight case' [15:48]
mircea_popescu "and also the last uncompromised one, at that." [15:48]
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ben_vulpes for the record, the gpg.conf flag that excludes versions is 'no-emit-version' [15:53]
mircea_popescu it still HAS a version. [15:54]
mircea_popescu but yeah [15:54]
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* BingoBoingo soliciting pieces of force case. So many stories here can probably publish multiple takes. [15:56]
BingoBoingo ascii_field: http://qntra.net/bundles/force/ (some still uploading) [15:59]
assbot Index of /bundles/force ... ( http://bit.ly/1abA7qS ) [15:59]
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ascii_field BingoBoingo: http://dpaste.com/3HYQ3EX.txt [16:03]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1abACks ) [16:03]
ascii_field ferglubbsake [16:03]
ascii_field nobody wants to sit and click [16:03]
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jurov http://www.cypherspace.org/adam/hacks/lotus-nsa-key.html [16:08]
assbot NSA Backdoor Key from Lotus-Notes ... ( http://bit.ly/1abBmWU ) [16:08]
jurov i have put it into phuctor, found nothing [16:08]
ascii_field the lotus thing is ancient history [16:08]
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ascii_field the translation isn't ru either [16:09]
ascii_field it's be [16:09]
BingoBoingo ascii_field: fixed [16:10]
nubbins` they make nice coins [16:10]
ascii_field http://qntra.net/bundles/force << congrats BingoBoingo [16:10]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1abBGFb ) [16:10]
nubbins` well. they sell nice coins. i doubt they mint 'em domestically [16:10]
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nubbins` last couple of gifs show the masterminds [16:13]
ascii_field everyone who loaded BingoBoingo's original link, reload [16:16]
ascii_field it has civilized clickless display now. [16:16]
nubbins` what the fuck is kim dot com's problem [16:18]
mike_c goddamnit, i need a new printer. any recommendations? i want scan, print, and print pictures of my kid (nothing professional needed). [16:21]
trinque nubbins`: what's your grip with him? [16:21]
trinque *gripe [16:21]
mike_c shopping for a printer feels like swimming through a swamp for some reason. [16:22]
nubbins` nothing, i guess [16:22]
nubbins` mike_c if you want an all-in-one, i can't help ya [16:22]
nubbins` i can recommend a nice printer setup tho [16:22]
mike_c yeah, i figured you'd be too high end. you don't have any workaday favorites? [16:23]
mike_c how bout brand in general? HP/canon/etc? [16:23]
nubbins` i'll never buy anything but epson [16:24]
nubbins` in fairness, the epson 1430 is really nice, 13" wide-format, and it's probably only like $200-250usd right now. [16:24]
ascii_field ugh ink [16:26]
mike_c well they don't make home laser color printers i don't think [16:27]
nubbins` ascii_field that's my next step [16:27]
nubbins` mike_c http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/Product.do?sku=C11CA45201 [16:27]
assbot Epson Artisan 50 Inkjet Printer - Product Information - Epson America, Inc. ... ( http://bit.ly/1abEdyZ ) [16:27]
ascii_field mike_c: by the tonne [16:27]
nubbins` with https://www.cobraink.com/CIS/CIS%20kits/Art50%20kit/CIS%20Kit%20Art50.htm [16:27]
assbot .:: Cobra Ink Systems::. This is where the term CIS began ... ( http://bit.ly/1abEfai ) [16:27]
ascii_field mike_c: for a few hundy [16:27]
ascii_field (home colour laser) [16:27]
* nubbins` pays $50usd for 32oz of printer ink [16:27]
ascii_field does the ink still run when you sneeze on the page ? [16:27]
mike_c oh yeah, look at that. [16:28]
nubbins` ascii_field is right tho, color lasers are ubiquitous and cheap. you can get one for around the same price. [16:28]
nubbins` ascii_field that's a function of the paper 8) [16:28]
mike_c i know little to nothing about this.. is toner cheaper than ink? [16:28]
nubbins` mike_c name-brand toner is cheaper than name-brand ink [16:28]
nubbins` by orders of magnitude [16:28]
mike_c ah [16:28]
nubbins` off-brand ink is cheaper than off-brand toner [16:28]
nubbins` by orders of magnitude [16:28]
ascii_field nubbins`: function of the paper? if the ink is water-soluble, and it gets in - how will it not also get out, when wetted again ? [16:29]
ascii_field am i missing something [16:29]
nubbins` maybe i am :S [16:29]
mike_c i have had mixed success with chinese knockoff ink cartridges, and have a suspicion they have led to the death of my current printer.. [16:29]
* nubbins` admittedly does little "photo printing", and is more concerned with laying down as much ink as possible [16:30]
nubbins` but the CIS kit i have supplies a constant flow of very inexpensive, high quality ink [16:30]
nubbins` for my 1430s: https://www.cobraink.com/CIS/CIS%20kits/1430%20kit/CIS%20Kit%201430.htm [16:30]
assbot .:: Cobra Ink Systems::. This is where the term CIS began ... ( http://bit.ly/1abEYIs ) [16:30]
ascii_field http://seeingyellow.com << obligatory if buying colour laser [16:30]
assbot Seeing Yellow ... ( http://bit.ly/1abEYZ2 ) [16:30]
nubbins` well, that's the other thing. [16:31]
nubbins` i'm also not convinced that home color laser beats inkjet for image quality [16:31]
nubbins` text, you'd be a fool to use an inkjet [16:31]
nubbins` images, well, stop sneezing 8) [16:31]
ascii_field nubbins`: image quality - seems quite likely [16:32]
ascii_field afaik colour laser was never well-regarded by artistic types [16:32]
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jurov yes, color laser is poor for photos [16:32]
nubbins` i actually took a loss on a job a while back because i priced it for color laser prints and they weren't up to snuff [16:33]
ascii_field newspaper quality. [16:33]
nubbins` not a loss on ink/toner costs, mind you, but a loss on time [16:33]
nubbins` inkjet is sloooo-o-o-o-o-w [16:33]
nubbins` incidentally, some of you may be interested to know, epson is the only home printer mfg that has printheads that can deliver variable amounts of ink [16:34]
ascii_field i found a very, very fast tractor-feed (!) early '90s inkjet in a skip once, as a kid [16:34]
ascii_field quality was about on par with ancient typewriter and then leave document in the sun for a decade or three [16:34]
ascii_field iirc it was an epson. [16:34]
nubbins` nice [16:35]
nubbins` regular inkjet: heating element rapidly boils ink inside cart, steam bubble forces ink out through aperture [16:35]
nubbins` epson inkjet: voltage applied to piezo element [16:36]
nubbins` mechanical propulsion, voltage-controller [16:36]
ascii_field i had this notion that all modern inkject machines use piezos [16:36]
nubbins` nope. [16:36]
nubbins` epson's the only one using it as a rule [16:36]
nubbins` you'll rarely see others try it [16:36]
* nubbins` owns third-party printer drivers that allow him to control -- among other things -- voltage to piezo [16:37]
nubbins` also does postscript emulation which is nice for printing halftone dots from greyscale images. [16:38]
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nubbins` approx. 1.5x the cost of the actual printer [16:39]
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mike_c any thoughts on 5 color inkjet vs 3 color? [16:42]
nubbins` the more, the better [16:42]
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mike_c thanks for advice! [16:44]
nubbins` generally 5+1 (yellow, cyan, light cyan, magenta, light magenta, black) will give you truer light tones [16:44]
nubbins` and you really, really should consider getting one of those CIS kits, it'll pay for itself in a year [16:44]
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mike_c I like the thought of that a lot.. and it may be practical given wireless (so i can put the whole thing in a closet somewhere). [16:45]
jurov i've had epson stylus in early 00's and it was spawn of evil, with golden toilet refills [16:46]
jurov and when i bought cheaper ink, found out the cassettes can really be refilled only once anyway [16:47]
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jurov dunno if inkjets got better since [16:52]
mike_c oh cool, cobra ink will sell you the printer with cis installed already [16:54]
mircea_popescu afaik colour laser was never well-regarded by artistic types << not even on wood. [16:56]
nubbins` mike_c it will, but it's worth comparing costs [16:59]
nubbins` the install is trivial [16:59]
nubbins` mircea_popescu that was monochrome lazer 8) [16:59]
mircea_popescu :p [17:00]
mircea_popescu monochrome is artisanal [17:00]
mircea_popescu hence all the b&w amateur-art photos [17:00]
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scoopbot New post on Trilema by Mircea Popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/curriculum-vitae/ [17:10]
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mircea_popescu ben_vulpes ^ [17:18]
ben_vulpes hah [17:23]
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thestringpuller lol scoopbot only works for trilema [17:27]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: is that SFW? [17:27]
mircea_popescu no pics, it's just plaintext [17:27]
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thestringpuller i like how MG made the cut but not BitBet lol [17:34]
mircea_popescu dude if i was going to put everything in i'd be there for a week. [17:35]
mircea_popescu most of the good stuff didn't make it in. [17:35]
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thestringpuller Jan 2016 MP drops his first rap album. [17:37]
* nubbins` has been pickling daikon radishes in rice vinegar for the past 3 months, will consume this evening [17:39]
mircea_popescu ironically enough, the usms scammer thing which is how i even got started also doesn't seem to have made it in. [17:41]
mircea_popescu awell.jpg [17:41]
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nubbins` http://imgur.com/meyFGgn [17:47]
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mike_c i give up. [17:48]
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ascii_field BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/bundles/force << should link back to qntra [17:49]
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nubbins` mike_c ? [17:53]
mike_c it looks like some kind of odd orange. [17:54]
nubbins` oh [17:54]
nubbins` pickled daikon radish [17:54]
mike_c ah, interesting. [17:54]
nubbins` yellow from turmeric [17:55]
nubbins` http://jakwave.co.uk/recipe-%EB%8B%A8%EB%AC%B4%EC%A7%80-danmuji-korean-sweet-pickled-radish/ [17:55]
assbot Recipe - 단무지 [Danmuji] Korean Sweet Pickled Radish | JaK Wave ... ( http://bit.ly/1NvFwFk ) [17:55]
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scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/03/subpoena-requests-data-on-rdarknetmarkets-users/ [18:18]
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ascii_field http://www.wired.com/2015/03/us-used-zero-day-exploits-policies << usg shills struggling to drown discussion with idiot garbage like this [18:34]
assbot US Used Zero-Day Exploits Before It Had Policies for Them | WIRED ... ( http://bit.ly/1Cqt5r9 ) [18:35]
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ascii_field 'In summary, for the nearly two year period before FORCE worked the Silk Road case, FORCE deposited a total of approximately $250,000 into his bank accounts, an amount consistent with his federal salary. In contrast to that, the bank records show that in the just over two-year timeframe from FORCE's joining the Silk Road case to his May 2014 resignation, FORCE deposited approximately $776,000 into his bank accounts, an [18:52]
ascii_field amount that represented solely his liquidation of bitcoins.' [18:52]
ascii_field one of the few things usg is demonstrably good at is sniffing out unexpectedly fattened cattle to butcher. [18:54]
ascii_field fact is, if this ever goes to trial (unlikely) - the moron will be asked 'where did you get it' [18:57]
ascii_field and will stammer and blither in front of the jury, or cough up some outlandish 'martian' alibi [18:57]
punkman heh "FORCE functioned as the de facto Chief Compliance Officer for CoinMKT all the while employed as a DEA agent, even allowing himself to be featured in CoinMKT's "pitch decks" to venture capital investors and allowing himself to be listed as CoinMKT's anti-money laundering and/or compliance officer" [19:01]
nubbins` ^ i died [19:02]
punkman also "FORCE used his official position as a DEA agent to illegally run criminal history checks on individuals for the benefit of a third-party digital currency exchange company, CoinMKT, in which FORCE had personally invested approximately $110,000 worth of bitcoin." [19:04]
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punkman I thought assbot didn't have state [19:05]
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nubbins` https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=339417.msg10933746#msg10933746 [19:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] (HIF) Havelock Investments Fund ... ( http://bit.ly/1BYs5Hc ) [19:13]
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BingoBoingo scoopbot -fetch [19:31]
scoopbot New post on Qntra.net by Bingo Boingo: http://qntra.net/2015/03/blockchain-hits-milestone-23rds-of-all-bitcoins-mined/ [19:32]
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BingoBoingo BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/bundles/force << should link back to qntra < [19:39]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NvEkBD ) [19:39]
nubbins` BingoBoingo make the link point to the main page maybe? [19:40]
BingoBoingo nubbins`: fxd, again [19:41]
BingoBoingo thx [19:41]
nubbins` np [19:42]
nubbins` also, http://qntra.net/2015/03/blockchain-hits-milestone-23rds-of-all-bitcoins-mined/ second sentence should begin with Its instead of It's [19:43]
assbot Blockchain Hits Milestone, 2/3rds of all Bitcoins Mined | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1BYyNgs ) [19:43]
nubbins` and a comma after incidentally [19:43]
nubbins` and a comma after 420,000 [19:44]
nubbins` 8) [19:44]
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BingoBoingo nubbins`: fxd, that one I really should have had time to self proofread better, but DEAlulz [19:52]
nubbins` +1000 [19:52]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990106.0 << lulz courtesy of pete. [20:57]
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jurov "Replying from my cell, please forgive any typos." O.o [21:01]
jurov prolly meant cellphone, tho [21:01]
mircea_popescu obv. [21:02]
mircea_popescu havelel is manually processing withdrawals << FIRST EVER! [21:02]
mircea_popescu THOUGHT LEADERS ! INDUSTRI BEST LARGEST [21:03]
asciilifeform l0ldustry [21:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 166372 @ 0.00026565 = 44.1967 BTC [-] {2} [21:17]
* asciilifeform wonders where everybody went... reading the sr mega-turd? hacking on pogotron? beating off rabid weasels ? [21:18]
nubbins` ^ 2nd [21:18]
nubbins` where are the nand read/write utils located in new turdel? [21:19]
asciilifeform in the path [21:19]
asciilifeform # which nandwrite [21:19]
asciilifeform /usr/sbin/nandwrite [21:19]
asciilifeform nanddump is also there [21:19]
nubbins` a-ha, found em. [21:19]
nubbins` okay, so that confirms it [21:19]
asciilifeform confirms what [21:20]
* nubbins` has baked his own v2 pogotron from source [21:20]
asciilifeform congrats nubbins` !! [21:20]
nubbins` tyvm! :D [21:20]
nubbins` gonna sha512 my tarballs now & post to ml [21:20]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, nubbins`, danielpbarron et al: is there any interest in the pheature i discussed in october (?) where one pogo would deflower another, virginal unit ? [21:22]
asciilifeform through crossover cable [21:22]
asciilifeform (i do not presently know if the nic on pogo has auto-crossover) [21:22]
mircea_popescu maybe. [21:22]
asciilifeform this would involve, at the minimum, the 'male' starting up a dhcp server prior to the 'female' being powered up [21:23]
asciilifeform this process would have to be triggered in some way. [21:23]
asciilifeform that's the part i got stuck on [21:23]
asciilifeform what's the trigger ? [21:23]
asciilifeform alternatively: [21:24]
asciilifeform 'male' pogo sitting on normal lan with one of more 'females' could be manually triggered to spoodge, using the telnet shell and a util that takes argument of female's ip [21:25]
thestringpuller i come back to computers having sex?!? [21:26]
danielpbarron ;;isitdown wiki.bitcoin-assets.com [21:26]
gribble wiki.bitcoin-assets.com is down [21:26]
danielpbarron ;;isitdown log.bitcoin-assets.com [21:26]
asciilifeform (what would be involved: it triggers the backdoor - see log - then transfers over nandwrite; then payload; then fires) [21:26]
gribble log.bitcoin-assets.com is down [21:26]
asciilifeform ^ works here [21:26]
danielpbarron the search is also not up-to-date [21:26]
mircea_popescu you can use log1 ad interim [21:27]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla ^ [21:27]
danielpbarron actually ya, log. loads eventually; wiki doesn't though [21:27]
mircea_popescu (fwiw, i see log. but intermittently0 [21:27]
danielpbarron search won't find results past this line -> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-03-2015#1079336 [21:32]
assbot Logged on 30-03-2015 05:43:56; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i might get to it tomorrow night [21:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 96650 @ 0.00025994 = 25.1232 BTC [-] [21:35]
nubbins` the upside of this is that you could turdify a whole stack of pogos at once [21:35]
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nubbins` <+asciilifeform> what's the trigger ? <<< hold reset while powering up unit to boot it in "erect" mode? [21:43]
jurov what, the pogo won't have any management interface beyond that button? [21:46]
jurov shat if i want to check how many connections/ block height it has? [21:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58650 @ 0.00026007 = 15.2531 BTC [+] {2} [21:47]
nubbins` morse code in lights [21:50]
nubbins` mp will say that if you wanna check how many connections, throw it out and buy a new one [21:51]
nubbins` what do you want, it's $19 :D [21:51]
trinque heh, there are printers with embedded menu systems kinda like that [21:51]
trinque but they at least have a place for output [21:51]
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mircea_popescu omg the haters [21:53]
mod6 haters_everywhere.jpg [21:57]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-03-2015#1079598 << but force 66 1/3 is so much lulzier [21:59]
assbot Logged on 30-03-2015 16:42:29; mike_c: BingoBoingo: see NYT article, they (correctly) just call him mr. force. [21:59]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-03-2015#1079604 << well, they could imaginarily take it. there's no limits to imagination! [22:00]
assbot Logged on 30-03-2015 16:45:05; mike_c: because if it was actually "sizable".. and they didn't get it back.. [22:00]
jurov don't forget it's not $19 for me. at least 31 euro [22:00]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-03-2015#1079610 << isn't this also the dude with the weirdo positions re gavincoins ? [22:01]
assbot Logged on 30-03-2015 16:46:05; assbot: [22:01]
mircea_popescu that he then accidentally forgot to either softlaunch here or defend afterwards ? [22:01]
mircea_popescu jurov stands to reason that if one wants to run a devel pogo they'd run the devel pogo rather than the cement pogo ? or am i missing something ? [22:02]
jurov "how do i check it's working" "nah, shut up" [22:02]
BingoBoingo that he then accidentally forgot to either softlaunch here or defend afterwards ? << Yes [22:03]
jurov ^^ applies to cement pogo, too [22:03]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell pete_dushenski it's not clear to me facebook is a "technology". if every tripod/myspace clone with an advertising budget were a technology then you should probably avoid tap water. [22:03]
gribble The operation succeeded. [22:03]
asciilifeform jurov: pogo won't have any management interface beyond that button? << that button (ought to) spawn a telnetd with root shell. what more management could one want ??! [22:04]
mircea_popescu jurov you could connect to it. [22:04]
mircea_popescu as a node i mean. [22:04]
jurov ah i missed that. [22:04]
jurov that solves the triggering of male pogo [22:05]
asciilifeform (for anyone who slept through pogotron/pogotron-v2, the current version spawns telnetd by default on every boot) [22:05]
nubbins` <+jurov> don't forget it's not $19 for me. at least 31 euro << $35cad for me! [22:06]
asciilifeform ... and will approach $maxint as they run out. [22:06]
nubbins` wholesale guy said he might increase from $20 to $30 soon because of recent interest, in the meantime [22:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33176 @ 0.00025738 = 8.5388 BTC [-] [22:07]
nubbins` so if anyone feels like getting some more, maybe we should pool our resources and get a buttload at once [22:07]
nubbins` bbl die siedler von catan! [22:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109003 @ 0.00025623 = 27.9298 BTC [-] {2} [22:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 113454 @ 0.00025819 = 29.2927 BTC [+] {2} [22:09]
asciilifeform if somebody wants to get a rail car full of'em, the time to do so is probably now [22:10]
asciilifeform and not after another month or three of 'recent interest' [22:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5754 @ 0.00026052 = 1.499 BTC [+] [22:12]
asciilifeform esp. since we are not the only ones who can use 'buildroot' etc. [22:12]
asciilifeform it is all posted publicly after all. [22:12]
thestringpuller a railcar sounds expensive [22:13]
asciilifeform costs probably less than first class air to istanbul on one outing of mircea_popescu and his pets [22:13]
thestringpuller that's like 3 years living expenses for me... [22:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53000 @ 0.00025881 = 13.7169 BTC [-] [22:17]
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asciilifeform the inevitable 'price of open source' is that we made pogo suddenly considerably more appetizing for just about everybody. [22:24]
* assbot gives voice to decimation [22:24]
asciilifeform even folks who just want a nas without proprietary turdware [22:24]
thestringpuller nas makes me think of the rapper [22:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80487 @ 0.00025707 = 20.6908 BTC [-] {2} [22:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109213 @ 0.00025477 = 27.8242 BTC [-] {3} [22:27]
decimation asciilifeform: you could probably run nfs [22:27]
decimation maybe even with kerberos [22:27]
thestringpuller ick kerberos... [22:27]
decimation it's really annoying to configure [22:28]
thestringpuller and even more painful to configure "right" [22:28]
thestringpuller it blows up all the time from my experience. [22:28]
decimation one of the problems is that 99% of the installations use winblows for the key server [22:28]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform i don't think that's so bad, really. let that everybody hack on them [22:33]
decimation re: discussion about ntp < I thought the conclusion of that thread is that the timestamp of the latest incoming bitcoin transation ought to determine the clock time [22:34]
decimation or something like that [22:34]
mircea_popescu right [22:35]
mircea_popescu ;;seen brendafdez [22:35]
gribble brendafdez was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 days, 2 hours, 25 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: mircea_popescu it works now. Anyway the IP I'm on now is one of a public AP, it shouldnt be whitelisted. I'll later give you my home IP, and BingoBoingo has my VPS IP already. I didn't know you were filtering. [22:35]
mircea_popescu !rate brendafdez Highly intelligent and utterly self-destructive. Will stick around for as long as the former appears to mask the latter. [22:37]
assbot Rating should be any non zero value between 10 and -10. [22:37]
mircea_popescu !rate brendafdez -1 Highly intelligent and utterly self-destructive. Will stick around for as long as the former appears to mask the latter. [22:37]
assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/0b91a325c61ae482 [22:37]
mircea_popescu !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.brendafdez.-1:99c85240d655d8874bfc63e85c4d96eab4222b144bd7b518ea6a0ffbd3a9fac7 [22:37]
assbot Successfully updated the rating for brendafdez from 1 to -1 with note: Highly intelligent and utterly self-destructive. Will stick around for as long as the former appears to mask the latter. [22:37]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-03-2015#1079687 << why exactly would the guy "hafta pay fines" anyway ? [22:40]
assbot Logged on 30-03-2015 17:26:44; fluffypony: http://i.imgur.com/9sxBf51.png [22:40]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-03-2015#1079748 << very different people, very different us. [22:42]
assbot Logged on 30-03-2015 17:36:51; ascii_field: as it was for certain mafia dons [22:42]
mircea_popescu at the time, the united states was like, a world leader. [22:42]
mod6 ;;later tell funkenstein I don't think you're in assbot's WoT, see about regestering with assbot. http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot [22:42]
gribble The operation succeeded. [22:42]
danielpbarron he is with an underscore [22:43]
mircea_popescu !gettrust funkenstein_ [22:43]
assbot is not registered in WoT. [22:43]
mircea_popescu that didn't help. [22:43]
danielpbarron the woodcoin guy right? [22:44]
mircea_popescu log yeah [22:44]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-03-2015#1079771 << cops helped me break into my own house once. [22:44]
assbot Logged on 30-03-2015 17:41:02; nubbins`: did i mention that i saw a cop help someone break into a house earlier? [22:44]
mircea_popescu three hours with the fucking ram because apparently no fucking blacksmith existed anymore. [22:44]
danielpbarron !gettrust funkenstein_ [22:45]
assbot Trust relationship from user danielpbarron to user funkenstein_: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/danielpbarron/funkenstein_ | http://w.b-a.link/user/funkenstein_ [22:45]
* danielpbarron slaps assbot around a bit with a large extra space [22:45]
mircea_popescu hory hseit [22:46]
mircea_popescu !gettrust mircea_popescu [22:46]
assbot and are not registered in WoT. [22:46]
mircea_popescu !gettrust mircea_popescu [22:46]
assbot and are not registered in WoT. [22:46]
mircea_popescu !gettrust derp herp and mircea_popescu [22:46]
assbot derp and herp are not registered in WoT. [22:46]
mircea_popescu ahaha [22:46]
mircea_popescu !gettrust derp herp mircea_popescu and yourmom [22:47]
assbot derp and herp are not registered in WoT. [22:47]
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mats http://jolmos.blogspot.com.es/2015/03/tls-v12-sigalgs-remote-crash-cve-2015.html [22:58]
assbot software security blog: TLS v1.2 sigalgs remote crash (CVE-2015-0291) ... ( http://bit.ly/1HYXCRw ) [22:58]
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assbot 6B0D10D1878DE25B4DA2695AB2B6360488298AB6 is not registered in WoT. [23:01]
mod6 !gettrust funkenstein_ [23:01]
assbot Trust relationship from user mod6 to user funkenstein_: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/mod6/funkenstein_ | http://w.b-a.link/user/funkenstein_ [23:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 181161 @ 0.00025414 = 46.0403 BTC [-] {2} [23:03]
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mod6 thebitcoin.foundation/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000078.html [23:10]
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asciilifeform three hours with the fucking ram because apparently no fucking blacksmith existed anymore. << l0l, mircea_popescu got a free penetration test from enemy [23:24]
danielpbarron http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/deedbot [23:25]
mircea_popescu this was long ago [23:26]
asciilifeform timestamp of the latest incoming bitcoin transation ought to determine the clock time << this promises to be very gnarly and even non-monotonic unless we're very careful [23:26]
mircea_popescu not tx [23:27]
mircea_popescu block. blocks are the timekeeping device [23:27]
asciilifeform ... brendafdez -1 Highly intelligent and utterly self-destructive << wai wat, was this in-channel? iirc this person simply vanished into thin air without so much as a squeak [23:28]
mircea_popescu just my impression. [23:28]
asciilifeform in other news, i had a most peculiar '1024 chickens'-flavoured thought - [23:29]
asciilifeform small multicopters could be built which tesselate. [23:29]
asciilifeform lifting whatever size load as one wishes, like balloons [23:29]
mircea_popescu http://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/60811418.jpg [23:30]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1EX2Mr5 ) [23:30]
asciilifeform this is simpler than it sounds because they are traditionally built in such a way that operator sets desired angle and motors 'bang-bang' with pde dampening until it is achieved [23:30]
BingoBoingo just my impression. << Seems right for an unexplained workweek long disappearance without warning, right after getting things to do [23:30]
asciilifeform the choppers will snap together like children's 'lego' and share control and power bus [23:31]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform it's also much harder than it sounds, because of all sorts of scale effwects [23:31]
asciilifeform one could also, presumably, have 'tiles' which only carry battery (or only thrusters) depending on whether endurance is at a premium [23:31]
mircea_popescu meanwhile a 20mw powerplant is 1-200k or some shit. [23:31]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that's the thing, they have excellent behaviour when perturbed [23:31]
asciilifeform i recall kicking diametric's chopper in mid-air and it only wobbled a bit. [23:32]
decimation asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQIMGV5vtd4 [23:32]
assbot A Swarm of Nano Quadrotors - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1EX33dG ) [23:32]
asciilifeform swarms are old news [23:32]
asciilifeform and yes, we all saw that one [23:33]
decimation ah I see you want them to physically connect together [23:33]
asciilifeform aha [23:33]
asciilifeform share power and control bus [23:33]
asciilifeform buy as many as needed to carry load. [23:33]
asciilifeform like balloons. [23:33]
decimation how many to make https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_S-64_Skycrane [23:34]
assbot Sikorsky S-64 Skycrane - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1EX3eFI ) [23:34]
asciilifeform also gives a degree of redundancy [23:34]
asciilifeform go shoot a machine with 8192 airscrews of which only 512 are needed [23:34]
asciilifeform or the like. [23:34]
asciilifeform (each 3 having own battery!) [23:34]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform a simple exercise : given each element applies a force F on a random vector, calculate the shear force - probability function for a string of 100 such. [23:34]
decimation I wonder if there is some kind of diminishing returns with having so many rotors in the same area [23:35]
asciilifeform decimation: not if far enough apart [23:35]
decimation yeah [23:35]
asciilifeform how far - is for the folks who actually want to try this [23:35]
asciilifeform in life. [23:35]
decimation they would need some kind of rods to form a web [23:35]
mircea_popescu the sykorsky is ~7mw [23:35]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: only 'random' to the extent calculations are off (plus wind, vibration) [23:36]
mircea_popescu right. just as a mechanical engineering problem. [23:36]
mircea_popescu soon enough you gotta make your bots out of titanium. [23:36]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: except that the error does not compound. [23:36]
asciilifeform any given point in the 'fabric' is equivalent. [23:36]
asciilifeform other than the graph edges. [23:37]
mircea_popescu i have my doubts. [23:37]
mircea_popescu seems exactly the sort of thing to get freak compounding nonsense in. [23:37]
asciilifeform draw, see. [23:37]
asciilifeform i'd build it in such a way as to let it jettison dead tiles, too [23:38]
asciilifeform why let them drag machine down. [23:38]
asciilifeform (in peacetime this may be a bad idea, they will fall on someone's head) [23:38]
asciilifeform anyway, i'm not certain what the point of this is, in practice, but having failed to find any traces of it existing, thought it fit to post here. [23:40]
mircea_popescu the problem is tho : the electric machines suck specifically for being electric. this isn't fixed by assembling more of them. [23:40]
mircea_popescu the golden standard (carnot cycle) is too big generally, rather than too small. [23:41]
decimation re: carnot < one of the mistakes louis xvi made was not recognizing and promoting him [23:41]
decimation 'welfare for nobles' displaced competence [23:41]
decimation except the Carnot cycle guy was his son, I was mistaken [23:42]
mircea_popescu decimation he was born either just before or jsut after revolution [23:42]
mircea_popescu nothing much left of the king by the time he was 16. [23:42]
decimation carnot the father was born 1756 [23:43]
decimation err 1753 [23:43]
mircea_popescu you mean lazare ?! [23:44]
decimation yeah [23:44]
mircea_popescu what was to recognise/promote ? guy was iirc a military officer with interests in mechanics. [23:45]
BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2015/03/federal-agents-who-persecuted-ulbricht-arrested/#comment-16087 [23:46]
decimation well according to the history to which I have been listening, he was fustrated by his inability to advance beyond a junior officer [23:46]
assbot Federal Agents Who Persecuted Ulbricht Arrested | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1EX4Nnj ) [23:46]
mircea_popescu mebbe he was, i have nfi [23:47]
decimation and part of the reason why he couldn't advance was because the ministry's reforms of the army tended to favor derpy nobles over young talent [23:47]
BingoBoingo Comment delivered unto us http://qntra.net/bundles/forceunlawfulseizure.txt [23:47]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1EX51L6 ) [23:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 111239 @ 0.0002535 = 28.1991 BTC [-] {3} [23:48]
decimation re: Freiherr Hammerstein-Equord's quote < Yes, USG specializes in promoting the stupid and industrious [23:50]
mircea_popescu quite. [23:51]
decimation http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2013/10/28/241295755/a-churchill-quote-that-u-s-politicians-will-never-surrender < highly related [23:52]
assbot A Churchill 'Quote' That U.S. Politicians Will Never Surrender : It's All Politics : NPR ... ( http://bit.ly/1EX5CMF ) [23:52]
decimation "As King put it: "Winston Churchill once famously observed that Americans will always do the right thing, only after they have tried everything else."" [23:52]
mircea_popescu the space of everything else's sadly incomputable. [23:54]
decimation yeah, that quote seems dubious [23:54]
decimation Freiherr Hammerstein-Equord's 'method' (if true) built one of the greatest professional land armies the world has every seen [23:55]
decimation but ultimately fell to USSR & USA's Levée en masse [23:56]
asciilifeform i will now take the liberty of calling the hypothetical machine 'freyacopter' [23:56]
asciilifeform (is there anyone who doesn't understand why ?) [23:56]
asciilifeform and no, it doesn't make storage battery suck less [23:57]
asciilifeform but i came up with it for a reason. sat the other day for a long time thinking of mircea_popescu's observation that 'industrial product is crud' and the only place where industry wins is - scale [23:57]
asciilifeform 50,000 birthday balloons are cheaper than airplane. but not very much use to fly. on the other hand, if a freyacopter tile lifts, e.g., 500g... [23:58]
asciilifeform 50 of'em will lift a boy [23:59]
asciilifeform 100 - a man [23:59]
asciilifeform (thin man) [23:59]
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asciilifeform and scale, scale. (of production, that is) [23:59]
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