Forum logs for 30 Jan 2012
Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
Tril | goldtoast you enter the phrase on the terminal that gpg is attached to.. the one you ran it from | [00:00] |
lyspooner | i dont' want to argue on the meaning of speculative, but it's not like bitcoins are supporting a 45 million dollar a year economy based on the current available selection of goods and services | [00:01] |
Staatsfeind | Well, on my systems, a window pops up that asks for the passphrase; it doesn't go in a terminal window usually. | [00:01] |
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nmat | goldtoast you write it and press enter | [00:01] |
Staatsfeind | lyspooner: True, but it's not because of its raw components. :þ | [00:01] |
goldtoast | Tril and nmat, it asks for the pass then outputs freenode:#bitcoin-otc: ...... | [00:02] |
Cusipzzz | lyspooner: what does a 45mil economy look like, and how can you tell be the current btc transactions that this is not it ? | [00:03] |
Staatsfeind | goldtoast: that freenode:#bit… line is what you need to copypaste | [00:03] |
nmat | goldtoast copy that and write to gribble "everify freenode#..." | [00:03] |
goldtoast | ok then eauth... | [00:03] |
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Staatsfeind | everify | [00:03] |
Staatsfeind | ;;eauth vragnaroda | [00:03] |
goldtoast | awesome, just a little confused at that part, thanks nmat and Staatsfeind | [00:03] |
Staatsfeind | ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:e6f2db7427ccf45f2aa87560e704f59c5acf63571eaa41ef8e90eb88 | [00:04] |
Staatsfeind | I'm now authed as vragnaroda. | [00:04] |
Staatsfeind | ;;voiceme | [00:04] |
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goldtoast | yeah! You are now authenticated for user goldtoast with key | [00:04] |
rg | aha | [00:04] |
Woofcat | ;;voiceme | [00:04] |
rg | my room mate is ordering from one place | [00:05] |
Staatsfeind | ;;ident goldtoast | [00:05] |
rg | im ordering from another | [00:05] |
rg | we're having a delivery driver SHOW DOWN | [00:05] |
rg | if they show up at the same time | [00:05] |
rg | they have to fight | [00:05] |
rg | MA state law | [00:05] |
Staatsfeind | ☺ | [00:05] |
goldtoast | so im all good Staatsfeind? | [00:05] |
lyspooner | Cusipzzz: in a 45mm dollar economy, i can buy fresh flowers in three major cities. | [00:05] |
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Tril | ;;getrating [ident goldtoast] | [00:06] |
Tril | yup | [00:06] |
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rg | now i think the duud who was gonna buy me food is idle | [00:06] |
goldtoast | tightttt | [00:06] |
rg | doh | [00:06] |
Staatsfeind | goldtoast: Yes. | [00:06] |
lyspooner | otherwise, < 45 | [00:06] |
Cusipzzz | lyspooner: im sure we can find you 3 cities to buy flowers with in btc | [00:06] |
lyspooner | alright, let's do it | [00:07] |
lyspooner | *fresh flowers | [00:07] |
Cusipzzz | ok, how bout nyc, newark, nj, and piladelphia.. meet you there :) | [00:07] |
rg | ok who wants to buy me dinner | [00:08] |
rg | i have to order soon so the delivery guys get here at the same time | [00:08] |
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rg | omg | [00:10] |
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goldtoast | ;;guide | [00:13] |
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Tril | rg i can, if you pay with bitvps credits, i'm too lazy to generate a BTC address | [00:16] |
MBS | here, you can borrow 1MGDNTC2eMeXGAQSZv5EuD9WXnd8yNo3it | [00:16] |
imsaguy | I'm here | [00:16] |
goldtoast | lol | [00:17] |
MBS | anyone want to buy a $1.54 amazon gc for 75 cents paypal | [00:17] |
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splatster | Looking for programming work. | [00:33] |
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torusJKL | ;;gpg eregister torusJKL 7E1DB05AA5CB1D72 | [00:39] |
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stamit | selling one more interesting painting | [00:41] |
Buglouse | wtb IRC Bouncer/proxy /w BTC | [00:41] |
stamit | for 0.2 BTCs | [00:42] |
stamit | who will buy it? | [00:43] |
torusJKL | Hi. How can I buy from the open orders list? Is this done automatically or do I have to get in contact with the seller? I'm authenticated. | [00:49] |
nmat | get in contact with the seller | [00:49] |
torusJKL | What is more common and appreciated, using the email from the GPG fingerprint? Or private message on IRC? | [00:51] |
nmat | IRC first. you can try email, but some people may not use their gpg mails | [00:53] |
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btchero2 | yeah, I registered my nick with a fake email and I now regret it | [00:54] |
btchero2 | not that it matters much | [00:54] |
torusJKL | thanks, nmate | [00:54] |
btchero2 | tab completes names too btv | [00:55] |
torusJKL | btchero2, can't you change the gpg key? | [00:55] |
btchero2 | btw | [00:55] |
btchero2 | I am sure there is a way, but I don't feel like trying :) | [00:55] |
btchero2 | i have a decent feedback here so I don't think it freaks people out or anything, and I check irc more than i check my email anyway | [00:56] |
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Mqrius | Huh. All markets selling in Euro are overpriced compared to current usd rates. | [01:01] |
Mqrius | Maybe I should adjust my rater accordingly | [01:01] |
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nanotube | btchero2: you can always add another UID to your gpg key, if you want to have a valid email | [01:10] |
btchero2 | ok nano | [01:11] |
btchero2 | I will get around to it sometime | [01:11] |
nanotube | btchero2: up to you, was just a suggestion since you were lamenting your fake email :) | [01:11] |
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btchero2 | I used the fake email before everyone here knew every bit of my personal information :) | [01:14] |
nanotube | haha | [01:14] |
btchero2 | now it just seems silly to hide my email from people who look at my house on google maps | [01:14] |
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Woofcat | Anyone here willing to sell BTC via PP? | [01:15] |
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paulzag | ;;getrating Woofcat | [01:26] |
bitcoin_bonus | ;;guide | [01:28] |
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MILF | ;;getrating Woofcat | [01:29] |
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rg | nanotube | [01:33] |
rg | how much would i have to pay you to change my nickname in gribble | [01:33] |
rg | i want to put grubles and my -otc rating on our company site | [01:33] |
paulzag | hey woofcat what rate do you want to pay PP & what currency? | [01:33] |
rg | but i cant write 'hey checkout the admins stats, rapeghost' | [01:33] |
Woofcat | ;;ticker | [01:33] |
Woofcat | looks like market is below $5.40 USD | [01:34] |
paulzag | ;;ticker | [01:34] |
Woofcat | I'm in CAD, so really whatever currency as I'm paying conversion anyways | [01:34] |
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paulzag | I'll take USD or AUD (but haven't done AUD before I'd have to check my pp account | [01:35] |
paulzag | want to start with 4? Or are you looking for a lot more? | [01:36] |
paulzag | oops - moving to chat | [01:36] |
nanotube | rg: you just have to ask nicely :) | [01:36] |
nanotube | rg: which you already did. ;) | [01:37] |
btchero2 | he implied that you would be a bastard and force him to pay | [01:37] |
btchero2 | that is hardly nice | [01:37] |
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nanotube | btchero2: haha well, another way to interpret it is that he'd be willing to give me money. which is something most people would consider a plus :) | [01:38] |
btchero2 | life is all about perspective nanotube | [01:39] |
rg | nanotube: can you make it 'rg' | [01:40] |
rg | just not rapeghost | [01:40] |
rg | pretty please | [01:40] |
rg | btchero2 will dance all sexy for you | [01:40] |
nanotube | lol | [01:40] |
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Woofcat | :( | [01:50] |
Woofcat | he ping timed out | [01:50] |
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stamit | IN NEED OF art patron who can appreciate subtle aspects of art... for 0.2 BTC | [01:51] |
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Woofcat | You want someone to pay $0.10 for some art you drew? | [01:52] |
stamit | i think 0.2 BTC is around one dollar | [01:53] |
stamit | it's only a dollar | [01:53] |
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stamit | i can give you a discount if you want... | [01:53] |
Tasty | Buying 30 BTC ppusd | [01:53] |
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stamit | Woofcat? you want it? it's nice! | [01:53] |
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stamit | it's not just any piece of art | [01:54] |
Woofcat | Lol, not really. | [01:54] |
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MILF | lol | [01:54] |
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MILF | tbh though, i'm trying to slowly hack away at mining | [01:55] |
stamit | it's the process that matters | [01:55] |
MILF | to get me a new video card | [01:55] |
MILF | 6950 isn't sufficient anymore :P | [01:55] |
MILF | i need a 7970 | [01:56] |
MILF | :D | [01:56] |
stamit | if anyone has any input pictures for me, that would be nice too | [01:57] |
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dirkdizzler | ;;getrating tasty | [02:03] |
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Woofcat | wb. | [02:04] |
paulzag | stupid router - it's route table fills up and crashes DNS | [02:04] |
Woofcat | haha | [02:05] |
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torusJKL | Anybody interested in selling 5 BTC for PPUSD or PPCHF to a newbie? | [02:08] |
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moocow1452 | WTS $25 iTunes giftcard. Takers? | [02:09] |
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stamit | ok, Woofcat, 0.1 BTC, i'll give it away for 0.1 BTC | [02:10] |
stamit | or MILF... 0.1 BTC | [02:10] |
stamit | judging by your nick, MILF, you might like it | [02:10] |
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stamit | guess i can't insist too much | [02:12] |
synx419 | anyone sell me bitcoins through paypal? | [02:12] |
Geno | what is this itunes? | [02:12] |
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moocow1452 | iTunes, it's Apple's platform for music, movies and apps for iOS. | [02:13] |
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Woofcat | ;;rate paulzag 1 Bought 4 BTC smooth and quick. | [02:15] |
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Geno | And this "Apple"? | [02:17] |
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moocow1452 | They sell stuff to people at a profit, mostly. | [02:18] |
paulzag | torusJKL: I am | [02:19] |
Geno | interesting | [02:19] |
paulzag | synx419: pm me | [02:19] |
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paulzag | ;;rate Woofcat 1 Sold 4 BTC for USD. | [02:20] |
moocow1452 | last call on the iTunes card? | [02:21] |
paulzag | Okay everyone - wait while I reverify after getting booted | [02:21] |
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riot3 | hello | [02:22] |
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riot3 | is anyone willing to sell me bitcoins via paypal | [02:22] |
riot3 | i know its not safe for the seller and my anonymous word means nothing but i assure you will pay.. | [02:23] |
Woofcat | ;;getrating riot3 | [02:23] |
riot3 | ive never been here before | [02:23] |
Woofcat | riot3, register. | [02:23] |
Woofcat | That'll be your starting point. | [02:23] |
riot3 | i just want bitcoins through paypal | [02:23] |
riot3 | ok | [02:23] |
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register | lol | [02:23] |
register | whoops | [02:23] |
Woofcat | lol | [02:23] |
Woofcat | http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication#Registration | [02:24] |
Woofcat | is what you'll want. | [02:24] |
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* | Guest550 is now known as riot415 | [02:24] |
errydayimgenerat | gpg is such a bitchin ideaj | [02:24] |
errydayimgenerat | hi riot415 | [02:25] |
riot415 | hello | [02:25] |
errydayimgenerat | how are you doing? | [02:25] |
riot415 | good | [02:25] |
riot415 | how about you? | [02:25] |
errydayimgenerat | what are you getting bitcoins for? | [02:25] |
riot415 | to be honest i havent decided yet | [02:26] |
Woofcat | Lol errydayimgenerat does anyone really want to answer that? | [02:26] |
errydayimgenerat | no | [02:26] |
riot415 | i think for investing at the moment | [02:26] |
errydayimgenerat | but i know riot | [02:26] |
errydayimgenerat | even if he doesn't know who i am | [02:26] |
riot415 | really | [02:26] |
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riot415 | from where | [02:26] |
paulzag | ;;rate Woofcat 1 Sold 4BTC for PPUSD not charged back yet | [02:28] |
Woofcat | I love the 'yet' | [02:28] |
riot415 | so | [02:28] |
riot415 | anyone with paypal | [02:28] |
Woofcat | but thanks paulzag | [02:28] |
riot415 | want to sell bit coins? | [02:28] |
riot415 | if you dont trust me we can do a small amount.. | [02:28] |
paulzag | ;;rate Woofcat 1 Sold 4BTC for PPUSD not charged back | [02:28] |
Woofcat | Lol | [02:28] |
Woofcat | it's fine I just found it funny | [02:28] |
riot415 | its my only method of online payment | [02:29] |
riot415 | at the moment | [02:29] |
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paulzag | ;;getrating synx419 | [02:31] |
paulzag | ;;getrating torusJKL | [02:32] |
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paulzag | ;;identify torusJKL | [02:37] |
riot415 | ok | [02:37] |
riot415 | anyone want to sell some coins? | [02:37] |
riot415 | on paypal.. i know its risky but im good for it | [02:38] |
riot415 | this is so hard, that is literally what every scammer would say.. | [02:38] |
riot415 | next im gonna have to start reverse psychology | [02:38] |
torusJKL | ;;guide | [02:38] |
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paulzag | riot415: pm me | [02:39] |
MILF | riot415, you can probably get someone willing | [02:40] |
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MILF | but you're gonna end up paying a bit more | [02:41] |
MILF | just because of the risk of fraud | [02:41] |
lahwran | Greed: what have you done to me | [02:41] |
mircea_popescu | there are people who will do paypal, you jsut have to be patient and do a coin or two, whartever. | [02:41] |
mircea_popescu | then once you get your rank up it'll be ok. | [02:42] |
riot415 | yeal | [02:42] |
riot415 | yeah* | [02:42] |
blognewb | anyone selling for 5$ | [02:42] |
riot415 | well i will pay a little bit extra | [02:42] |
riot415 | thats about it | [02:42] |
blognewb | WTB 100 BTC @ 5USD | [02:42] |
mircea_popescu | sturles used to do a coin via paypal for noobs, not sure if he stil ldoes. | [02:42] |
MILF | wow...that's a pretty large buy | [02:42] |
Geno | lololololol | [02:43] |
mircea_popescu | the fun part is the people whio could buy a brand new car selling to blognewb. | [02:43] |
MILF | i forget who it was | [02:43] |
MILF | but there was a few people that dealt with me early on | [02:43] |
torusJKL | ;;identify torusJKL | [02:43] |
MILF | though that was a while ago too | [02:43] |
Cory | We did business, MILF. :) | [02:43] |
MILF | yea | [02:43] |
MILF | that's another thing | [02:44] |
MILF | if you're after something specific | [02:44] |
blognewb | mircea_popescu ok now in english | [02:44] |
MILF | you may be able to get someone to buy whatever it is | [02:44] |
MILF | and swap for coinage. | [02:44] |
mircea_popescu | you didn't get that did you ? | [02:44] |
MILF | like what i did with Cory | [02:44] |
MILF | he bought a steam game for me, i paid him in bitcoin | [02:44] |
blognewb | they could buy a matchbox | [02:44] |
MILF | :D | [02:44] |
mircea_popescu | not if they got 100k btc. | [02:45] |
blognewb | a truck full o matchbox | [02:45] |
MILF | 100k btc would buy a REALLY nice car | [02:46] |
MILF | O_o | [02:46] |
mircea_popescu | well not at blognewbs rates :p | [02:46] |
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imsaguy | ooh, someone tipped me in the forums | [02:49] |
MILF | "how'd ya buy that maybach" "paid in full, with bitcoin" | [02:49] |
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imsaguy | and now another, lol | [02:50] |
mircea_popescu | didja do something nice ? | [02:51] |
MILF | imsaguy, whatcha getting tipped for? | [02:51] |
mircea_popescu | posted tits ? | [02:51] |
imsaguy | I dunno | [02:51] |
imsaguy | the second one was for .01234567 | [02:51] |
MILF | rofl | [02:51] |
imsaguy | thats like a nickel! | [02:51] |
imsaguy | now one for 0.00080085 | [02:52] |
imsaguy | they just psent more money sending than they did tipping | [02:52] |
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imsaguy | woo | [02:52] |
imsaguy | its raining moneys | [02:52] |
imsaguy | 0.11899988 | [02:52] |
MILF | lol | [02:53] |
imsaguy | I've now been tipped .13 total | [02:53] |
imsaguy | woo | [02:53] |
MILF | what did ya do? | [02:53] |
MILF | XD | [02:53] |
imsaguy | dunno | [02:53] |
imsaguy | but I'm grateful :) | [02:53] |
Staatsfeind | People can feel free to rain on 1KQSKxdLo6A8JZu1XX9ewfCKEWPhpCE6TA | [02:54] |
MILF | lol | [02:55] |
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imsaguy | oh | [02:55] |
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imsaguy | I did go and payout dividends today | [02:55] |
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imsaguy | and paid a little overage | [02:55] |
MILF | lol | [02:55] |
imsaguy | total tip is now 0.19722646 | [02:55] |
imsaguy | hot diggity | [02:55] |
MILF | that's not bad | [02:55] |
imsaguy | thats a dollar | [02:55] |
MILF | that's almost what i make in a day of mining | [02:55] |
MILF | :P | [02:55] |
imsaguy | really? | [02:56] |
imsaguy | you poor bastard | [02:56] |
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MILF | actually i don't know what i make exactly | [02:56] |
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MILF | ~310mhash | [02:57] |
MILF | so actually i think it's closer to like 0.4 or 0.5 in a day | [02:57] |
MILF | http://autos.yahoo.com/maybach/57/2011/ | [02:58] |
imsaguy | ;;tell MILF [bc,gen 310000] | [02:58] |
torusJKL | MILF, try this http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator.php | [02:58] |
MILF | said car in question :D | [02:58] |
Staatsfeind | lol, someone's a dick | [02:58] |
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MILF | 0.23 | [02:59] |
imsaguy | who's a dick? | [02:59] |
MILF | per day | [02:59] |
MILF | for some reason i thought it was more than that | [02:59] |
MILF | lol | [02:59] |
etanoox | hi @ chan | [02:59] |
imsaguy | MILF, for one card, that's not bad | [02:59] |
etanoox | can anyone sell for paypal ? | [02:59] |
Staatsfeind | imsaguy: http://blockchain.info/address/c9e0f91970bc63ab252d2de29a8411008dd69a43 | [02:59] |
imsaguy | LOL | [03:00] |
MILF | i still liked it early on | [03:00] |
MILF | when i ran a 5770 | [03:00] |
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MILF | and pulled in 1.5 bitcoin per day | [03:00] |
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Cory | Staatsfeind: Ha, if only they had continued to 50 transactions. | [03:02] |
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Staatsfeind | ikr | [03:02] |
imsaguy | free btc is free btc | [03:02] |
imsaguy | regardless of qty | [03:02] |
imsaguy | if you don't like the tiny decimals, send them my way :p | [03:02] |
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MILF | ...or my way | [03:02] |
MILF | lol | [03:02] |
Staatsfeind | imsaguy: It would cost more to do that, though. | [03:02] |
MILF | oh shit | [03:03] |
imsaguy | just let them mature | [03:03] |
MILF | when did blockchain start using qr codes? | [03:03] |
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imsaguy | and send with other btc | [03:03] |
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MILF | that's pretty slick | [03:03] |
gnaritas | hey occulta | [03:03] |
MILF | though (relatively) worthless, as you're already looking at the page. | [03:04] |
MILF | lol | [03:04] |
occulta | hi | [03:04] |
occulta | ill pm you | [03:04] |
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gnaritas | ok | [03:04] |
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etanoox | i can show my ebay account, i just need some btc but i can pay it only with paypal. if anyone can sell me, please pm me, i don't want steal, thanks | [03:06] |
MILF | sounds legit. | [03:07] |
MILF | lol | [03:07] |
riot415 | will anyone sell me bitcoins | [03:07] |
riot415 | on paypal | [03:07] |
riot415 | please | [03:07] |
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riot415 | every person who says they will suddenly quits | [03:07] |
gigavps | riot415: go get a moneypak | [03:08] |
gigavps | stop begging | [03:08] |
errydayimgenerat | how do you find out your long key id on gpg4win? | [03:08] |
gigavps | errydayimgenerat: just do "eauth errydayimgenerat" to gribble | [03:08] |
riot415 | I CANT USE MONEYPAK | [03:08] |
Staatsfeind | riot415: Don't shout. | [03:09] |
gigavps | riot415: sounds like you are out of luck | [03:09] |
errydayimgenerat | with the short key gigavps ? | [03:09] |
riot415 | its stupid | [03:09] |
riot415 | ive made it VERY clear | [03:09] |
Staatsfeind | riot415: *it's | [03:09] |
riot415 | thanks | [03:09] |
riot415 | there has to be a way to purchase bitcoins with paypal | [03:09] |
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copumpkin | riot415: and we've made it very clear that paypal doesn't usually work around here | [03:09] |
riot415 | theres more websites than people | [03:09] |
errydayimgenerat | cause it comes up with key not recognized | [03:09] |
copumpkin | riot415: why must there be? paypal is fundamentally at odds with bitcoin | [03:09] |
riot415 | surely SOME website will do it | [03:10] |
riot415 | i mean | [03:10] |
riot415 | ebay works with paypal | [03:10] |
riot415 | they make a profit | [03:10] |
copumpkin | riot415: yes, and ebay isn't bitcoins | [03:10] |
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copumpkin | riot415: do you understand why we don't use paypal around here? | [03:10] |
imsaguy | buy bitcoins with paypal: memorydealers.com | [03:10] |
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copumpkin | those are physical bitcoins :P | [03:10] |
riot415 | enlighten me | [03:10] |
errydayimgenerat | i only have my shortkey, how do i figure out the long key? | [03:11] |
copumpkin | riot415: bitcoins cannot be charged back, and paypal can be, up to 90/180 days after purchase. Paypal almost always sides with the buyer, and bitcoin is against their agreement anyway. | [03:11] |
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copumpkin | riot415: therefore, a predatory buyer can get bitcoins and then chage back, claiming he was hacked | [03:11] |
copumpkin | paypal sides with him | [03:11] |
copumpkin | and the seller gets screwed | [03:11] |
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copumpkin | you can tell us you're honest but all scammers do that too | [03:11] |
copumpkin | your word means close to nothing | [03:11] |
errydayimgenerat | scammers are the most honest people here | [03:11] |
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errydayimgenerat | should have seen that coming | [03:12] |
rawrmage | lol | [03:12] |
copumpkin | riot415: it's the same deal with credit cards, because they can be charged back too. The fundamental issue is to have one currency that can be revoked and another that can't be. Moneypak is fairly safe in that regard, and is why people like it around here | [03:12] |
Staatsfeind | see‽ | [03:12] |
riot415 | what? | [03:12] |
copumpkin | riot415: insisting that you want to use paypal doesn't make it any less risky for the seller | [03:12] |
copumpkin | riot415: what what? | [03:13] |
copumpkin | in the butt? | [03:13] |
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riot415 | so | [03:13] |
riot415 | how can you buy them? | [03:13] |
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riot415 | you cant use money... | [03:13] |
rawrmage | ‽π | [03:13] |
riot415 | can you only generate them? | [03:13] |
copumpkin | riot415: with a moneypak, or at a great premium for someone to take the risk with you on paypal | [03:13] |
riot415 | i can't | [03:13] |
riot415 | i cant | [03:13] |
riot415 | can not | [03:13] |
Staatsfeind | Dwolla, Liberty Reserve, cash, Pecunix, etc. | [03:13] |
riot415 | use moneypak | [03:13] |
riot415 | but | [03:13] |
nmat | riot415: where are you?switzerland? | [03:13] |
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riot415 | thats all currency | [03:13] |
riot415 | whats the difference? | [03:13] |
riot415 | paypal = currency | [03:13] |
Staatsfeind | Those are not ScamPal. | [03:14] |
riot415 | credit cards = currency | [03:14] |
copumpkin | riot415: then wait for a risk-tolerant guy to show up and sell to you with paypal at a great premium over spot | [03:14] |
riot415 | why cant we use | [03:14] |
riot415 | i dont get it at all | [03:14] |
Staatsfeind | PayPal is a money transmitter; it is not a currency. | [03:14] |
copumpkin | riot415: I just explained | [03:14] |
copumpkin | riot415: what part of it don't you understand? | [03:14] |
riot415 | it all uses currenc | [03:14] |
copumpkin | riot415: seriously | [03:14] |
copumpkin | riot415: what part of "too risky" did you not understand? | [03:14] |
Staatsfeind | Are you fucking retarded? | [03:14] |
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nmat | riot415: are you in a SEPA zone? if so, you can buy them with a bank transfer. | [03:14] |
copumpkin | Staatsfeind puts it more eloquently than I | [03:15] |
Woofcat | riot415, Here, I'll explain the reasons. With paypal you can 'charge back' same with a credit card. Where this is impossible with bitcoins. So if you pay me say $20 USD via paypal. Then I give you 3 BTC. You could in theory charge back the $20 our of my account. Whilst keeping the 3 BTC. | [03:15] |
occulta | lol @ scroll | [03:15] |
etanoox | you are sure a good coder, but you are still a nerd, you just talk without soul... but you are coder, so... | [03:15] |
riot415 | what is charge back? | [03:15] |
riot415 | what is charge back? | [03:15] |
riot415 | please | [03:15] |
occulta | google.com | [03:15] |
errydayimgenerat | it's when you get your money back | [03:15] |
copumpkin | riot415: I just explained it :( | [03:15] |
Woofcat | riot415, where you report you didn't get the item and ask paypal for your money back. | [03:15] |
copumpkin | riot415: it's when you contest a charge on your credit card or paypal | [03:15] |
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copumpkin | lol | [03:16] |
nmat | annoying | [03:16] |
copumpkin | lost cause is lost | [03:16] |
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Woofcat | I mean, you can buy with paypal. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Woofcat is proof of that. | [03:16] |
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Woofcat | However you need to not be a dick about it. | [03:16] |
errydayimgenerat | man | [03:17] |
errydayimgenerat | i tried helping him out | [03:17] |
Staatsfeind | You also need patience. | [03:17] |
errydayimgenerat | but when he had his 8 digit id | [03:17] |
errydayimgenerat | and we couldn't figure out to get to 16 digit | [03:17] |
errydayimgenerat | he started freaking | [03:17] |
Staatsfeind | Well, sorry, but I don't know that gpg4win shit. If you run gpg on the command line, gpg -k --keyid-format long | [03:18] |
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errydayimgenerat | is someone else able to do it for yoU? | [03:18] |
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imsaguy | yeah, use teamdesktop | [03:19] |
imsaguy | and someone can do it for you | [03:19] |
errydayimgenerat | like cna't you just put int he id | [03:20] |
errydayimgenerat | and get the long one? | [03:20] |
errydayimgenerat | oh well he's a moron | [03:22] |
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BTC_Bear | errydayimgenerat: If this is you: User 'errydayimgenerat', with keyid C7C3F3750594495A and fingerprint 7A60083422FB48F3B4F681FEC7C3F3750594495A, registered on Sat Jan 28 02:20:14 2012. Currently authenticated from hostmask errydayimgenerat!~trikkiyni@phl-69-171-168-44.evdo.leapwireless.net | [03:24] |
errydayimgenerat | i know who i am | [03:25] |
errydayimgenerat | i was trying to help out riot415 | [03:25] |
errydayimgenerat | i forgot how i went from 8digit to 16 yesterday | [03:25] |
paulzag | errydayimgenerat: the advice is in the ;;guide authentication bit, but it's a command line switch to output long | [03:27] |
paulzag | for the next 40 mins I'm willing to sell small lots =< 10btc for PPUSD | [03:28] |
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errydayimgenerat | i saw that for gnu | [03:28] |
errydayimgenerat | i'm thinking gpg4win | [03:29] |
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paulzag | yeah each client is different, | [03:30] |
Woofcat | Anyone ever use http://www.luckycoin.in | [03:31] |
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phraust | any btc for moneypack? | [03:33] |
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phraust | ;;buy 92 .6 btc at 5.4 USD MoneyPak ($500) | [03:43] |
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pirateat40 | hmmm | [03:46] |
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sgornick | ;;sell 2.22 BTC at "{mtgoxask}" usd PayPal USD. Some trust required. PM me on IRC. | [03:53] |
Woofcat | ;;getratomg sgornick | [03:55] |
Woofcat | ;;getratimg sgornick | [03:55] |
[Manic] | 3rd times the charm | [03:55] |
Woofcat | Apparently I'm a mental child when trying to type lefty | [03:55] |
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thisguy | How would I go about buying bitcoin with a moneypak? | [03:56] |
Woofcat | thisguy, get registered. | [03:57] |
Woofcat | then offer to buy some BTC for moneypak | [03:57] |
Woofcat | ;;getrating thisguy | [03:57] |
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Woofcat | ? | [03:57] |
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Staatsfeind | Woofcat: getrating on someone without identing them is stupid and dangerous. | [03:58] |
Staatsfeind | Also, use gettrust, not getrating. | [03:58] |
errydayimgenerat | god today sucks | [03:58] |
Staatsfeind | ;;gettrust [ident Woofcat] | [03:58] |
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Woofcat | Staatsfeind, how is get rating with out identing someone dangerous? | [03:59] |
Woofcat | I mean, the rating lets me know if they're authed. | [03:59] |
BTC_Bear | test it on me | [03:59] |
BTC_Bear | you'll see | [03:59] |
Woofcat | ;;getrating BTC_Bear | [03:59] |
paulzag | ;;gettrust [ident Woofcat] | [03:59] |
BTC_Bear | now do as vrag suggests | [03:59] |
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Woofcat | Yeah, one generates a lovely graph. | [04:00] |
Woofcat | the other one tells me their rating and if they're authed | [04:00] |
nmat | because they can be registered with a different name | [04:01] |
Staatsfeind | That shouldn't be the only difference. | [04:01] |
Woofcat | Yeah, I know. Hence the authentication portion. | [04:01] |
Staatsfeind | ;;getrating BTC_Bear | [04:01] |
BTC_Bear | Freenode nick ≠ GPG Nick | [04:02] |
BTC_Bear | always | [04:02] |
Staatsfeind | also, lol @ Staatsfeind rating | [04:02] |
Woofcat | Yeah, I understand that. | [04:02] |
Staatsfeind | ;;tell Woofcat [getrating Staatsfeind] | [04:02] |
Staatsfeind | ;;tell Woofcat [getrating [ident Staatsfeind]] | [04:03] |
Staatsfeind | lol | [04:03] |
Woofcat | cool | [04:03] |
Staatsfeind | The Staatsfeind that's in gribble's database, that GPG key has been revoked. | [04:04] |
Tasty | Buying 32 btc, paypal | [04:04] |
Staatsfeind | ;;rate Staatsfeind 9 | [04:04] |
BTC_Bear | ;;rate Staatsfeind 0 Ditto Imsaguy | [04:05] |
Staatsfeind | Woohoo! 0 cumulative rating! | [04:05] |
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Woofcat | in other BTC news. Anyone use luckycoin.in before? | [04:06] |
copumpkin | theyhat.in | [04:06] |
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Cusipzzz | mtgox x175 1,961.9971 @ 5.43355611 USD O.o | [04:09] |
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Woofcat | wb DBordello | [04:10] |
DBordello | Thanks woofy | [04:10] |
DBordello | How are those coins treating you? | [04:10] |
Woofcat | Lol the ones you sold me? Well they paid for VPN then some gambling. | [04:10] |
Woofcat | so all gone and bought a bunch more since then | [04:10] |
Woofcat | lol | [04:10] |
DBordello | excellent | [04:10] |
DBordello | hah | [04:10] |
copumpkin | Cusipzzz: problem? | [04:10] |
DBordello | time to back charge em? :) | [04:10] |
Woofcat | Lol ohh yeah | [04:11] |
Woofcat | that's on my todo list | [04:11] |
Cusipzzz | copumpkin: nope | [04:11] |
DBordello | cool | [04:11] |
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Woofcat | I found out my old friend has a stash of 36 BTC | [04:11] |
Woofcat | so thinking I'll pick those up at 80% value | [04:12] |
pirateat40 | Cusipzzz, you did that!!! I can't believe you. | [04:12] |
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thisguy | sorry but how do I register? This all seems so arcane. | [04:14] |
Woofcat | Lol. it's secure. | [04:15] |
Woofcat | So arcane be damned | [04:15] |
Woofcat | read ;;guide | [04:15] |
pirateat40 | Its so we never have to deal with this guy that just comes in and tries to scam us. | [04:16] |
pirateat40 | :) | [04:16] |
thisguy | ;;guide | [04:17] |
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Greed | Anyone wanna buy 25 BTC? | [04:17] |
Tasty | If you accept paypal then yes. | [04:18] |
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paulzag | Greed: how much | [04:19] |
Greed | ;;getrating Tasty | [04:19] |
Greed | 5.5 | [04:19] |
paulzag | ;;getrating [ident Greed] | [04:20] |
paulzag | USD? | [04:20] |
Greed | yep | [04:20] |
novusordo | ;;buy 4.57 btc at 5.46 usd ($25 moneypak) | [04:21] |
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novusordo | greed do you accept moneypak? | [04:22] |
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paulzag | ;;rate Greed 1 sold BTC for PPUSD easy and fast | [04:34] |
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Cory | http://www.xc0n.com/2012/01/yo-anon-let-me-get-bitcoin.html "I wrote this 2012 hip hop song while sitting in bitcoin-otc and got nazid out of the room for mentioning marijuana.. lulz to be had." | [04:37] |
novusordo | man, bought a moneypak thinking it'd be gone in 5 mins... slow night tonight | [04:37] |
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phraust | last time I think it took me about a day. | [04:38] |
MILF | so.... | [04:38] |
MILF | did jjgames stop accepting bitcoins? | [04:38] |
MILF | i know they used to a while back | [04:39] |
phraust | i been having fun on a dragons tale. | [04:40] |
phraust | easy come, easy go though. won like 6 btc, managed to gamble it all away. | [04:40] |
phraust | damn fishing. | [04:41] |
MILF | that's like 25 dollars | [04:42] |
MILF | rofl | [04:42] |
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paulzag | ;;ticker | [04:46] |
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* | Topic for #bitcoin-otc is: OTC marketplace for Bitcoin trading and exchange. || http://bitcoin-otc.com/ || Bot's control sequence is ';;'. || Start with the ;;guide || Before you trade, talk to people, and check user ratings. || Beware the FRAUDSTERS. ;;fraud || Trade Options: http://polimedia.us/btc || Bitcoin VPS: http://www.bitvps.com || Support bitcoin-otc! 1F1dPZxdxVVigpGdsafnZ3cFBdMGDADFDe | [17:03] |
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bitcoinTrader | #opentransactions | [17:26] |
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paulzag | ;;guide | [17:39] |
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lunks | won't prices go high anymore? :~ | [17:44] |
DBordello | I have 80 BTC for sale. Make me an offer | [17:44] |
copumpkin | lunks: nobody ever knows :) | [17:44] |
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lunks | copumpkin: i'm really hoping it does. :P | [17:45] |
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imsaguy2 | DBordello, I could use a few | [17:46] |
imsaguy2 | is my ppusd any good with you? | [17:46] |
DBordello | it is | [17:47] |
DBordello | but I was looking for someone more desperate I could rip off :) | [17:47] |
jcpham | ha | [17:47] |
DBordello | not you | [17:47] |
imsaguy2 | lol | [17:47] |
imsaguy2 | ok fair enough | [17:48] |
copumpkin | at least he's honest | [17:48] |
imsaguy2 | I'll just do some pool withdrawals | [17:48] |
jcpham | i have a lot of coin out on pools now myself | [17:48] |
jcpham | or pseudo-pools | [17:48] |
imsaguy2 | I wouldn't say I have a lot out there | [17:48] |
jcpham | that don't payput | [17:48] |
imsaguy2 | yeah | [17:48] |
jcpham | lol | [17:48] |
jcpham | i'm looking at 15 btc on 3 "pools" | [17:49] |
jcpham | some people might call that a lot | [17:49] |
imsaguy2 | true | [17:50] |
jcpham | imsaguy2 one of the new 6950's went SICK over the wwekend | [17:50] |
jcpham | on 900/775 | [17:50] |
imsaguy2 | doh | [17:50] |
jcpham | ;p | [17:50] |
imsaguy2 | heat related? | [17:50] |
jcpham | dunno. don't think so | [17:51] |
jcpham | i'll guess power first | [17:51] |
imsaguy2 | one sick isn't anything to worry about | [17:51] |
imsaguy2 | I'd say restart and go again | [17:51] |
imsaguy2 | sometimes its just a minor power thing | [17:51] |
jcpham | i did | [17:51] |
jcpham | slowed that gpu a tad | [17:51] |
imsaguy2 | I periodically restart anyway | [17:51] |
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imsaguy2 | going from 900 to 890 or 895 isn't a big deal | [17:52] |
imsaguy2 | and if it keeps it from goign sick, even better | [17:52] |
jcpham | i should probably start rebooting weekly or something | [17:52] |
imsaguy2 | linux or windows? | [17:52] |
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jcpham | i think itook that one down to 875. leenux | [17:52] |
imsaguy2 | ah | [17:52] |
imsaguy2 | I have mine on windows (save the bashing :P) so the patch tuesday takes care of that for me | [17:53] |
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imsaguy2 | monthly restarts seem to be good | [17:53] |
DBordello | Alright, time to rally today | [17:53] |
imsaguy2 | I concur | [17:53] |
jcpham | yes. rally mode | [17:53] |
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DBordello | I must OC too hard, I'd say my box reboots about once a day | [17:53] |
jcpham | we got a lame ass gawker article | [17:53] |
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jcpham | everyone will want to buy btc for guns now | [17:54] |
DBordello | but I am backing off on the OC for now | [17:54] |
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nelisky | want to buy coins with ukash or paysafecard? ask my bot about rates -> /privmsg neliskybot help | [17:56] |
Greed | no | [17:57] |
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nelisky | Greed: ok, then ;) | [17:57] |
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vite | help me please https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=61905.0 | [17:59] |
jcpham | what does it say there | [17:59] |
bluefirecorp | I'd guess 1:8 vite, a lot of hidden females out there. | [18:00] |
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vite | wonder why they need to hide LOL | [18:01] |
DBordello | vite, the poll is too narrow | [18:02] |
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DBordello | we can rule out the top 3 options | [18:02] |
imsaguy2 | you don't offer much range | [18:03] |
imsaguy2 | there's no 1:10 or 1:100 | [18:03] |
imsaguy2 | its either 1:1, all or none | [18:03] |
vite | imsaguy lol | [18:03] |
jcpham | it's a speculation | [18:04] |
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vite | ok added one more option | [18:04] |
imsaguy2 | what sort of power do the 5970s consume? | [18:05] |
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vite | electricity id assume | [18:05] |
nelisky | imsaguy2: I have a 3 GPU machine totalling 850w | [18:05] |
jcpham | i think like 400w per | [18:05] |
nelisky | underclocked ram | [18:06] |
nelisky | 5 of 6 cores overclocked to 800~840 | [18:06] |
nelisky | water cooled | [18:06] |
nelisky | (and for sale :) ) | [18:06] |
imsaguy2 | I'd buy 5970s, but I don't want watercooled or a full rig | [18:07] |
nelisky | 850W from the wall, so that's the whole machine | [18:07] |
nelisky | yeah, I'll probably part it out to sell, but I, *ahem*, lost the original screws | [18:07] |
nelisky | I do have the fans, but the screws went MIA | [18:08] |
DBordello | nelisky, you are water cooled? | [18:09] |
imsaguy2 | pm me your asking price and your state :) | [18:09] |
Greed | Someone here was meant to give me cards at some point | [18:09] |
Greed | I can't remember who | [18:09] |
Greed | Was going to buy 5870's or 6990's | [18:09] |
Greed | Wasn't shakaru | [18:09] |
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nelisky | imsaguy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=61203.msg716355#msg716355 | [18:10] |
nelisky | DBordello: yeah, to some extent | [18:10] |
imsaguy2 | damn | [18:10] |
imsaguy2 | european | [18:10] |
imsaguy2 | that's most likely a deal breaker | [18:11] |
nelisky | I'm selling most of my WC material, really good in terms of noise / temp, but too much babysitting | [18:11] |
nelisky | imsaguy2: yep, that's my experience | [18:11] |
nelisky | imsaguy2: I'll sell, but it's expensive and may take a long time to arrive | [18:11] |
DBordello | why a lot of babysitting? | [18:12] |
DBordello | don't you set it up and go? | [18:12] |
nelisky | DBordello: in theory, yeah | [18:13] |
DBordello | in practice? | [18:13] |
nelisky | but in practice if you need to reset a block you need to drain the whole circuit | [18:13] |
nelisky | and adding / removing cards is a nightmare | [18:13] |
nelisky | and I once had a leak that cost me quite a bit of money, so I visually inspect everything regularly | [18:14] |
nelisky | (though the leak was a one off thing, haven't happened again) | [18:14] |
DBordello | ah, okay | [18:14] |
DBordello | maybe I'll stay on air.... | [18:14] |
nelisky | overall, if you need a good space heater generating coins, WC is the way to go | [18:14] |
nelisky | don't go cheap on the hw, though :) | [18:14] |
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DBordello | ah | [18:15] |
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imsaguy2 | my warmest card is 62.5 | [18:20] |
imsaguy2 | woo | [18:20] |
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nelisky | I really wouldn't need WC for the temp alone during the winter, but in the summer I had to underclock the damn things | [18:21] |
nelisky | with WC they stay ~40C tops | [18:22] |
imsaguy2 | Im not worried about 62.5 | [18:22] |
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DBordello | This guy who wants me to setup a pool for him gave me some shitty vps | [18:23] |
DBordello | that I can't connect to | [18:23] |
DBordello | What are the odds that CentOs is running in 17MB :/ | [18:23] |
DBordello | approximately 0%? | [18:24] |
DBordello | i lied, it is running | [18:25] |
DBordello | impressive | [18:25] |
DBordello | y | [18:25] |
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Graet | lol wht specs on the vps? and how many miners is he expecting to support? | [18:26] |
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DBordello | not many I don't think | [18:27] |
DBordello | it is more private | [18:27] |
DBordello | maybe 40 GH/s tops | [18:27] |
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Graet | kk gl :) | [18:34] |
DBordello | Thanks | [18:35] |
DBordello | sadly, I have already done this once | [18:35] |
Graet | shitty vps is shitty , i started on a reasonable one and ithin 2 weeks realised i needed something much better | [18:35] |
DBordello | and then he killed the VPS | [18:35] |
Graet | lol | [18:35] |
DBordello | i had ecoinpool running | [18:35] |
Graet | cool | [18:35] |
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phraust | so these VPS that everyone keeps talking about are for mining? | [18:51] |
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bluefirecorp | pharno: no. | [18:55] |
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DBordello | very much no | [18:56] |
phraust | oh. | [18:56] |
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Graet | lol | [18:57] |
bluefirecorp | phraust: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_server | [18:57] |
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phraust | Yeah, i was just wondering why there so popularly discussed here. | [18:57] |
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Graet | one of the many things a vps can be used for is running a pool. you can mine on a vps, but the provider might not like you for long ;) | [18:58] |
phraust | ah. | [18:58] |
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Graet | becvause its something ppl sell for bitcoihns | [18:58] |
phraust | thanks. | [18:58] |
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Graet | :) | [18:58] |
bluefirecorp | Graet: Well, if you are paying for a service, you might as well be using it. As long as there's nothing in their ToS, really they can't do much. | [18:58] |
phraust | I just figured if you were technically able to mine, you'd probably have an extra server in a closet somewhere. | [18:59] |
Graet | bluefirecorp that depends on the TOS etc, if you want to be pedantic go ahead, i'm off to make coffee | [18:59] |
DBordello | sometimes you need better connectivity/uptime | [18:59] |
luke-jr | my ToS forbids mining :P | [18:59] |
DBordello | sometimes you need better connectivity/uptime | [18:59] |
Graet | bluefirecorp they can limit your vps cpu and ram till its unusable...:P | [19:00] |
phraust | makes sense. | [19:00] |
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bluefirecorp | Graet: NOT if they gave you rates that are guaranteed :P | [19:00] |
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bluefirecorp | I really need to sit down and finish some work one of these days. I have at least a dozen different projects started, just don't wanna finish them =/ | [19:01] |
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phraust | whoever that was that suggeste archlinux, thanks. having lots of fun with it. | [19:02] |
UukGoblin | ... modern youth | [19:03] |
Graet | plenty of dodgy vps providers out there bluefirecorp "in an ideal world" maybe :P | [19:03] |
imsaguy2 | jcpham: ping | [19:03] |
DBordello | wow, archlinux is still around? | [19:04] |
DBordello | I used that like 10 years ago | [19:04] |
bluefirecorp | I've considered setting up my own company, but I really couldn't stand the idea of colocation and all the paper work =/ | [19:04] |
Dark_Apostrophe | Few distros ever seem to die | [19:04] |
Dark_Apostrophe | Some people still use Slackware | [19:04] |
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GammaG | hi cory! | [19:04] |
DBordello | ah yes, slackware | [19:05] |
UukGoblin | I haven't seen anyone using monkey linux, which was my first | [19:05] |
phraust | I was a big fan of slax for ages. | [19:05] |
GammaG | good morning everyone | [19:05] |
phraust | Last time Ireally used linux I just made it all from scratch for an old amd k6, but that was in like 00. | [19:06] |
jcpham | pong mofo | [19:06] |
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Dark_Apostrophe | I had a pause for about 3 years, back on Linux now. In that time, I used OS X and Windows... Miss OS X, but I love Linux. :P | [19:07] |
jcpham | imsaguy2 hi | [19:07] |
GammaG | the website db is down for gribble instructions, what was the verify command? | [19:07] |
GammaG | i've been gone, i forgot | [19:07] |
Dark_Apostrophe | Since Ubuntu ditched GNOME, it got a whole lot better - so now I'm using it. Used to use Debian (and occasionally Gentoo) | [19:07] |
DBordello | ubuntu ditched gnome? | [19:07] |
DBordello | when? | [19:07] |
Dark_Apostrophe | Release before the current | [19:08] |
phraust | I was using linux mint for a bit, but wanted something a litle slimmer. | [19:08] |
DBordello | what is it called now? | [19:08] |
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Dark_Apostrophe | They built a new desktop environment based on GTK called Unity | [19:08] |
DBordello | is that unity? | [19:08] |
DBordello | ah | [19:08] |
phraust | that was pretty, but without any need for a gui, top heavy. | [19:08] |
Dark_Apostrophe | Very Mac OS X inspired | [19:08] |
DBordello | i like gnome better, me thinks | [19:08] |
Dark_Apostrophe | I used to use KDE | [19:08] |
Dark_Apostrophe | Never could get into GNOME, it was too esoteric in.. everything for my taste | [19:08] |
jcpham | i hate it when i have to unity --replace | [19:09] |
Dark_Apostrophe | A guy at work uses it. I've watched him use his computer and I still don't know what's going on | [19:09] |
jcpham | because my windows don't work | [19:09] |
Dark_Apostrophe | Hasn't happened to me yet, though it does have some other bugs | [19:09] |
vigilyn | unity is too flashy for me | [19:09] |
jcpham | i have all sorts of crazy transparent terminals with unity | [19:10] |
Dark_Apostrophe | Flashy? Hmm... not heard it described as such before. It's more Mac OS X-inspired minimalism, in my opinion | [19:10] |
jcpham | and a seamless win7 vbox | [19:10] |
Dark_Apostrophe | Ah | [19:10] |
jcpham | eventually it starts acting strange | [19:10] |
Dark_Apostrophe | This is a shitty laptop, don't really use it for much besides browsing, email, IRC, etc. | [19:10] |
jcpham | this is ashitty del. i use it for everything! | [19:10] |
Dark_Apostrophe | My desktop is a win7 box, mainly used for media, gaming and other high-performance tasks (mining also, back when it was still possible for a single individual to do so) | [19:11] |
GammaG | anyone able to tell me how to decrpyt the OPT using command like with wget | [19:11] |
jcpham | wget -q -O - http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/C71FB5ED6ACE04AF | gpg -q --output - --decrypt | [19:11] |
jcpham | ;;eauth |
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GammaG | thank you sir :)) | [19:11] |
jcpham | ;;verify the response string from above | [19:12] |
imsaguy2 | jcpham, do you use one of the prepackaged linux miners or make your own? | [19:12] |
jcpham | huh? | [19:12] |
jcpham | i use cgminer... | [19:12] |
GammaG | i forgot -q | [19:12] |
GammaG | i guess that was my problem | [19:12] |
imsaguy2 | some people use that linux miner on a stick or whatever | [19:13] |
imsaguy2 | I was curious if you used that? | [19:13] |
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jcpham | oh. linuxcoin. | [19:13] |
jcpham | no I use ubuntu and would use ubuntu. | [19:13] |
jcpham | i like 10.04 | [19:13] |
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jcpham | imsaguy2 -> http://pastebin.com/kggPc5Rp | [19:17] |
jcpham | I install ubuntu 11.04 desktop and run that script | [19:17] |
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jcpham | *10.04, not 11.04. 10.04 is a quicker install and seems to work better for me. | [19:18] |
imsaguy2 | ok | [19:18] |
imsaguy2 | I was halfway to asking why you use 10 instead of 11 | [19:18] |
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foggyb | [FOR SALE] two 5-ounce bars J&M silver - asking spot + 3% | [19:18] |
jcpham | i've tried 11.xx and sometimes i get no graphics | [19:19] |
jcpham | after a default install | [19:19] |
jcpham | nah it's cool. just pm me | [19:20] |
Graet | nice script, old cgminer tho ;) | [19:20] |
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jcpham | yes you may want to update some versions | [19:21] |
copumpkin | jjjrmy: nice Ph.D.! | [19:21] |
copumpkin | in what? | [19:22] |
jjjrmy | in doctoring | [19:22] |
copumpkin | lol | [19:22] |
copumpkin | doctoring evidence? | [19:22] |
jcpham | nice | [19:22] |
copumpkin | that's what most Ph.Ds get their doctorates in | [19:22] |
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imsaguy2 | on a different network, my nick is drnick | [19:27] |
imsaguy2 | but someone's squatting on that nick here | [19:27] |
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copumpkin | https://twitter.com/#!/DrNic | [19:29] |
jcpham | i've just heard the hardest dubstep ever | [19:29] |
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imsaguy2 | jcpham, why are you using old cgminer? | [19:31] |
jcpham | becasue the script was written when it wasn't old | [19:32] |
imsaguy2 | lol | [19:33] |
imsaguy2 | ok | [19:33] |
imsaguy2 | just trying to determine if it was a performance thing | [19:33] |
jcpham | nah. pure lazy | [19:33] |
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imsaguy2 | well, I'm gonna give the usb install a go | [19:34] |
imsaguy2 | compare the rates | [19:34] |
imsaguy2 | see if I can't get more hashes | [19:34] |
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jcpham | lemme know | [19:34] |
jcpham | maybe I need to switch to windows ;p | [19:34] |
Graet | lol | [19:34] |
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Graet | i had 2 identical 4 x 6950 gd70 rigs, one on xubuntu following kanois instructions from in cgminer folder and one on win7 - speeds were as good as identical | [19:36] |
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jcpham | several months ago I tested both and preferred linux | [19:36] |
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Graet | i think we need to get over the fud and let people us the tools they are most comfortable with ;) | [19:36] |
jcpham | but the hash speeds were the same | [19:36] |
Graet | yep | [19:37] |
jcpham | yes exactly, I was more comfortable with ubuntu | [19:37] |
Graet | :) | [19:37] |
Graet | i use both as i support both :) | [19:37] |
jcpham | a few years ago it would have been windows | [19:37] |
jcpham | i do too. I switched to ubuntu as my work desktop sometime after win7 | [19:37] |
jcpham | so now that i use it everyday, i prefer for myself | [19:38] |
Graet | tho when i'm lazy a win install is quicker/easier :P | [19:38] |
imsaguy2 | a win install is more expensive | [19:38] |
Graet | yep, i use win on my desktop coz i never could get any tv card to work satisfactorily in nix :/ | [19:38] |
Graet | tru as well imsaguy | [19:38] |
imsaguy2 | I'm a Microsofty | [19:39] |
imsaguy2 | but I hate paying $100 for miners | [19:39] |
jcpham | I have some super awesome MS certs | [19:39] |
Graet | i have spare keys... | [19:39] |
jcpham | tlol | [19:39] |
Graet | msdn ftw | [19:40] |
Graet | <.< | [19:40] |
Graet | >.> | [19:40] |
imsaguy2 | heh | [19:41] |
imsaguy2 | licensing.microsoft.com ftw | [19:41] |
imsaguy2 | that beats msdn and/or technet | [19:41] |
imsaguy2 | god bless kms | [19:42] |
imsaguy2 | but obviously that isn't more my home | [19:42] |
imsaguy2 | for my home* | [19:42] |
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jcpham | eopen is win. although it isn't eopen anymore | [19:47] |
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aqwpm | hi, i would like to know how to buy bitcoin using paypal, credit card ou paysafecard, any infos ? | [20:24] |
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phraust | aqwpm, the fastest way I know of is using MoneyPak. | [20:27] |
phraust | plus it's non-reversable. | [20:28] |
aqwpm | thank you, i'll get more infos on the website | [20:28] |
phraust | n/p | [20:28] |
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aqwpm | oh you can buy moneypak only in the us, and i live in france, too bad | [20:29] |
nelisky | aqwpm: I sell for psc | [20:29] |
phraust | ah, sorry. | [20:30] |
nelisky | do /privmsg neliskybot help | [20:30] |
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nelisky | it will explain how to get the rates | [20:30] |
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nelisky | or pm me of course | [20:30] |
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aqwpm | great, thank you | [20:33] |
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nelisky | aqwpm: it's still a work in progress, so even if you decide not to trade, any feedback is appreciated | [20:38] |
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aqwpm | i will trade tomorrow (i don't have my paysafe card on me), but for a beginner like me, the bot looks great | [20:38] |
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nelisky | cool, thanks! | [20:40] |
nelisky | it still needs some work, so don't be shy to point out the wrinkles... | [20:40] |
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aqwpm | ok ! | [20:46] |
rg | pretty as a peacock | [20:46] |
rg | just as gay! | [20:46] |
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GammaG | once u get the info back on your OTP | [21:00] |
GammaG | what is the command to gribble to verify it | [21:01] |
GammaG | the wiki is down and i havent been around for awhile i forgot :( | [21:01] |
phraust | it's ;;everify | [21:01] |
phraust | so, ;;everify
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phraust | or if you are pm'ing, no need for the double semicolons. | [21:02] |
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GammaG | [21:02] | |
phraust | i think you need to get it all done within a few minutes. | [21:02] |
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GammaG | ahh | [21:03] |
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NiceKind | hi everyone, how can I find someone in Germany to take my money for BC? | [21:04] |
copumpkin | NiceKind: a lot of europeans sell bitcoins for SEPA bank transfers | [21:04] |
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copumpkin | I can give you some names if you're interested in that | [21:05] |
NiceKind | That's the usual and anonymous way? | [21:05] |
copumpkin | it's not anonymous | [21:05] |
copumpkin | but there aren't many other good payment methods | [21:05] |
NiceKind | I see, how about the names? Is that any better than sepa? | [21:05] |
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copumpkin | Mqrius, sturles, and yossarian_ all do european bank transfers fairly often for bitcoins, I think | [21:06] |
copumpkin | probably many others | [21:06] |
nelisky | I usually sell for SEPA, and also for ukash or psc if you need anonymous (but more expensive) | [21:06] |
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nelisky | did you check the otc order book, there are plenty options there | [21:07] |
NiceKind | Ah, well will do that, you are quite a help here! | [21:07] |
Mqrius | NiceKind: I sent you a private message, there should be a tab up there ^ | [21:08] |
NiceKind | Thanks for the names, I will get into it! | [21:09] |
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nelisky | NiceKind: also, you might want to ask on #bitcoin-otc-eu, which is EU centric | [21:12] |
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NiceKind | Thanks for the info all, BYE | [21:16] |
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Raccoon | Will work for Bitcoins. | [21:18] |
jcpham | oh cool. | [21:19] |
jcpham | what are your talents Racoo | [21:19] |
Raccoon | I suppose that depends on what you need. :) | [21:21] |
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jcpham | pretty vague | [21:22] |
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Raccoon | i suppose resume building isn't high on that list ;p | [21:24] |
GammaG | anyone around that does paypal for btc, i am tired of loosing ATM fee's getting cash out for moneypacks | [21:24] |
Staatsfeind | *losing | [21:24] |
GammaG | losing :) | [21:24] |
GammaG | or $300 money pack for btc, for those i require atleast 50% btc upfront. only have 1 mp card | [21:25] |
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jcpham | ;;getrating GammaG | [21:26] |
Raccoon | paypal will not only reverse charges to piss you off, but they'll suspend your account too | [21:26] |
GammaG | if your around cory i'd like todo another trade off | [21:26] |
GammaG | u were a pleasure to work with | [21:26] |
Staatsfeind | Well, some are better than others at using them and evading their notice, but I don't touch it. :| | [21:26] |
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jcpham | sometimes i accpe paypal | [21:27] |
Raccoon | GammaG: why haven't you gotten a dwolla account yet? | [21:27] |
DBordello | I am selling. I accept MP | [21:27] |
GammaG | im not aware of what a dwolla account is | [21:27] |
jcpham | but i'll charge you an arm and a leg and you need a high rating | [21:27] |
Raccoon | Dwolla. Create an account -> Add bank checking info -> Wait 2-3 days for ACH transfer of two small deposits -> Verify bank checking info (said deposit amounts) -> Initiate Transfer $USD from checking to MtGox -> Wait 2-3 days for ACH transfer. No Movement on Weekends. Overall expected time from start to finish, 7 to 8 days. Start now. | [21:27] |
GammaG | see i don't have a bank account i will use online | [21:28] |
jcpham | last time i did dwolla to gox it was 11 days | [21:28] |
Raccoon | Dwolla is like Paypal, but not evil | [21:28] |
GammaG | i only have 1 i use and its for my paycheck deposit | [21:28] |
Raccoon | GammaG: then open one that you will use | [21:28] |
DBordello | GammaG, how much are you looking to buy? | [21:28] |
GammaG | i never give anyone access to it online | [21:28] |
DBordello | Selling up to 100BTC via MoneyPak | [21:29] |
Raccoon | walk over to the bank, open a new account. | [21:29] |
GammaG | ;;getrating DBordello | [21:29] |
DBordello | ;;getrating GammaG | [21:30] |
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DBordello | ;;getrating [ident GammaG] | [21:32] |
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DBordello | gracias | [21:33] |
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Staatsfeind | DBordello: Well, check this out (it's rather funny): | [21:33] |
Staatsfeind | ;;tell DBordello [getrating Staatsfeind] | [21:33] |
Staatsfeind | ;;tell DBordello [getrating [ident Staatsfeind]] | [21:33] |
labestiol | ;;guide | [21:33] |
DBordello | howdy Staatsfeind | [21:34] |
jcpham | don't howdy that guy | [21:35] |
jcpham | ;p | [21:35] |
Staatsfeind | howdy jcpham | [21:36] |
jcpham | I'm afraid if I respond my grammar will be bad and i'll get corrected ;p | [21:36] |
Staatsfeind | “Howdy” is probably my favorite English-language greeting. :þ | [21:36] |
DBordello | Is anybody around for an escrow? Compete for the highest rating, go! | [21:37] |
chmod755 | howdy Staatsfeind | [21:38] |
jcpham | i can do the escrow. is this Gamma's first trade? | [21:39] |
jcpham | that's what i read on gribblewebs | [21:39] |
DBordello | It is | [21:40] |
DBordello | Nothing personal, but I have a higher rating than you, I am not sure having you escrow helps :) | [21:40] |
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Buglouse | Familiar with GPG; when prompted for a overwrite path, I want to specify a default as an argument to gpg. | [21:41] |
jcpham | k DBordello. makes sense | [21:42] |
MBS | get free $5 amazon/paypal if you have a us number and iphone/android: www.clover.com/a?inv&t=al79p399six8 or http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5366/cloveroo.png | [21:42] |
jcpham | I didn't check | [21:42] |
MBS | anyone interested in renting a http://kimsufi.ie dedicated server for bitcoins, for 5/12/15 BTC respecfully | [21:42] |
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MBS | you can open new ones online, but main thing is that will take just as long to get money into that account usually | [21:43] |
GammaG | ? excuse me? | [21:43] |
GammaG | ah | [21:43] |
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MBS | some allow funding from debit/credit cards though | [21:43] |
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foggyb | can I be logged in from two different IP's with the same username> | [21:43] |
MBS | like just made a USAA account, offered to let me fund from a mastercard (not sure if it would only work with a credit card as a cash advance or if a debit would have worked too) | [21:44] |
foggyb | on IRC that is | [21:44] |
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MBS | foggyb, you will need to run an IRC bouncer like ZNC to do that | [21:48] |
MBS | http://wiki.znc.in/ZNC | [21:48] |
MBS | pretty much you run that on a server, then just login to IRC via that server, and it stays connected all the time | [21:48] |
jcpham | you could do it all old school with psybnc and freebsd | [21:49] |
Staatsfeind | Well, not exactly. There are other ways. | [21:49] |
jcpham | ooooh or netbsd | [21:49] |
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vragnaroda | Like, for example, I just SSHed into this box. | [21:49] |
jcpham | wham! | [21:50] |
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GammaG | hey i am looking for someone to take my USD paypal funds so i can get BTC | [21:50] |
jcpham | what happened to your mp? | [21:51] |
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GammaG | i just drained it | [21:51] |
MBS | :| | [21:51] |
jcpham | darn | [21:51] |
GammaG | i dont wanna have to get another | [21:52] |
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GammaG | pay a $4 atm fee, then a 4.95 mp fee | [21:52] |
GammaG | waste 10 bucks | [21:52] |
MBS | why did you use it | [21:52] |
jcpham | did you not trade in this channel and get a rating for it? | [21:52] |
Staatsfeind | What the fuck? | [21:52] |
Staatsfeind | $4 ATM fee? :o | [21:52] |
GammaG | yea i'll be getting a rating with cory when he comes back | [21:52] |
DBordello | Who did you just trade with? Did the trade go well? | [21:52] |
jcpham | make sure people you trade with are rated and rate you | [21:53] |
Staatsfeind | GammaG: If you pay $4 to use an ATM, get a better bank! | [21:53] |
GammaG | its not my bank | [21:53] |
GammaG | its a paypal card | [21:53] |
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GammaG | mastercard paypal business debit | [21:53] |
MBS | how many bitcoins did you need anyway | [21:54] |
jcpham | Persoanlly, I'd wait on Cory to rate you, we are all suspicious of paypal and unrated users | [21:54] |
jcpham | i'm certainly not implying anything. just a statement | [21:54] |
DBordello | I am nervous about that transaction..... | [21:54] |
GammaG | well i am not in a rush so i will wait for him to get back, because i did a good sized MP with him | [21:54] |
DBordello | did that last MP transaction go well? | [21:55] |
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GammaG | DBordello yes it did | [21:55] |
DBordello | good, I am glad to hear that | [21:55] |
GammaG | i got 19 btc, then i sent over MP, then got 39 btc | [21:55] |
GammaG | i mean 29 | [21:55] |
MBS | if i had more bitcoins, i would take clover payments http://www.clover.com/a?inv&t=al79p399six8 | [21:55] |
DBordello | MBS, you and your stupid clover | [21:56] |
MBS | :p | [21:56] |
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johnD__ | hello can anyone give me some tips about how to cash bitcoins anonymously? | [21:56] |
GammaG | i wish someone would take these 4870's i ahev for btc | [21:56] |
MBS | johnD__, you mean sell them? | [21:56] |
johnD__ | yes | [21:56] |
johnD__ | and eventually getting cash | [21:56] |
GammaG | but what am i sopose to ship and wait for u to get em to even see my btc.. | [21:56] |
jcpham | johnD__ coinabul.com sells metal for bitcoin | [21:56] |
GammaG | mehhh | [21:56] |
MBS | would sort of need an address to ship to though :p | [21:57] |
johnD__ | :) | [21:57] |
jcpham | yes it isn't anonymous | [21:57] |
johnD__ | are there any solutions for receiving the metal anonymously? | [21:57] |
MBS | ship to my address :p | [21:57] |
GammaG | i also have a gbit dedicated server in the UK i would sell for btc, like dirt cheap | [21:57] |
jcpham | reshipping service | [21:57] |
MBS | someone would still have his address though' | [21:57] |
jcpham | possibly the site owner would work with you |
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johnD__ | :D | [21:58] |
MBS | buy services for bitcoin? | [21:58] |
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DBordello | Money Pak | [21:58] |
MBS | not too many ways to keep it anonymous afterwards XD | [21:58] |
jcpham | metal is the closest thin i know of | [21:58] |
jcpham | or FTF transaction of cash | [21:58] |
MBS | well i guess moneypak works, not completely anonymous though | [21:58] |
MBS | depends on how anonymous you need | [21:58] |
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jcpham | mtgox wire in offshore acct. | [21:58] |
DBordello | plus greendot prepaid visa -> ATM | [21:59] |
GammaG | i had a really nice guy on SR send me 22 BTC as a loan | [21:59] |
GammaG | and today (1.3 weeks later) i sent him 25 btc | [21:59] |
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GammaG | :) i feel so proud of myself | [21:59] |
johnD__ | hmm | [21:59] |
johnD__ | so if I could get the greendot card anonymously then I could just buy moneypacks with bitcoin right | [21:59] |
GammaG | being honest actually feels great, i dunno how people live with thmselfs scamming for 1 transaction | [22:00] |
helo | scam4life | [22:00] |
DBordello | johnD__, yup | [22:00] |
MBS | johnD__, well greendots require SSN to activate i think | [22:00] |
GammaG | bad karma | [22:00] |
MBS | would have to find someone to do that for you | [22:00] |
GammaG | what goes around comes around | [22:00] |
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helo | except when it doesn't | [22:00] |
btchero2 | i think you can do 250 on a greendot card without using any info... but i am not sure I have never done it | [22:00] |
GammaG | greendot im pretty sure under like 499 and below | [22:01] |
GammaG | no social needed | [22:01] |
jcpham | johnD__ why so anonymous | [22:01] |
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DBordello | I think you can just buy it.... | [22:01] |
GammaG | i've never needed to use my SS # with greendot or MP | [22:01] |
btchero2 | If you do an awesome rate I will send you cash in the mail | [22:01] |
jcpham | ^ | [22:01] |
btchero2 | and won't tell | [22:01] |
johnD__ | I have earned some money with affiliate programs but I have used techniques that might include copyright infringement problems | [22:01] |
johnD__ | so now I am looking for a way to cash out from an anonymous alertpay account | [22:02] |
jcpham | i love that | [22:02] |
btchero2 | so you don't have bitcoins? | [22:02] |
johnD__ | not yet | [22:02] |
jcpham | "copyright infringement problems" | [22:02] |
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DBordello | lol | [22:02] |
johnD__ | :) | [22:02] |
DBordello | do you have bitcoins? | [22:02] |
EasyAt | Paypal got mad at me for depsoiting too many moneypaks in my bank account | [22:03] |
EasyAt | damnit | [22:03] |
GammaG | i wish i could find a better way to make bitcoins | [22:03] |
btchero2 | EasyAt what happened | [22:03] |
GammaG | i got 8 hours of free time a day for the interwebz | [22:03] |
johnD__ | I dont have bitcoins yet but as I understand its not hard to buy with alertpay? | [22:03] |
EasyAt | I was going otc stuff, and accepting moneypaks | [22:03] |
GammaG | gotta be a way to make bitcoin besides mining with super expensive cards | [22:03] |
mircea_popescu | how many did you do ? | [22:03] |
EasyAt | I widthdrew maybe 2k from paypal over 2 months | [22:03] |
EasyAt | They didnt lock me, just warned | [22:04] |
jcpham | if pp shuts down my acct. they'll be stuck w/ a bill | [22:04] |
jcpham | their loss | [22:04] |
EasyAt | haha | [22:04] |
btchero2 | if pp shuts me down I will cry | [22:04] |
magnetron | how many money paks did you do needed they wanted you? | [22:04] |
btchero2 | how do i get a mouse from hong kong for 1.50 shipped without paypal | [22:04] |
mircea_popescu | btchero2 : use bitcoin ? :D | [22:04] |
EasyAt | about 1750 in moneypack | [22:05] |
EasyAt | paks* | [22:05] |
mircea_popescu | ya but how many | [22:05] |
EasyAt | Oh, maybe 6 | [22:05] |
mircea_popescu | jeez. | [22:05] |
EasyAt | I didn't know it mattered | [22:05] |
mircea_popescu | what's the warning go like ? | [22:05] |
btchero2 | i wonder if you spend a little bit on ebay everytime if it won't set their flags off? | [22:06] |
DBordello | EasyAt, did you deposit then withdraw them? | [22:06] |
EasyAt | Just that if I keep doing it I will be banned | [22:06] |
EasyAt | DBordello: Yea, withing a day or two... i was stupid | [22:06] |
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DBordello | EasyAt, ah | [22:06] |
DBordello | I didn't know you could even do that | [22:06] |
EasyAt | You can widthdraw immedietly | [22:06] |
DBordello | what did they warn you of? | [22:06] |
EasyAt | well after like 5 minutes when it clears | [22:06] |
DBordello | ah | [22:06] |
EasyAt | sec ill paste | [22:07] |
johnD__ | does anyone know about any real world exchanges that take bitcoin and give you cash and wont ask you who you are? | [22:07] |
btchero2 | Is it illegal to sell bitcoins for a moneypak and cash out via greendot? | [22:07] |
DBordello | i thought you couldn't withdraw MP funds | [22:07] |
EasyAt | no thats not the issue | [22:07] |
DBordello | just send them | [22:07] |
EasyAt | You can add them to a paypal account | [22:07] |
MBS | EasyAt, another option is amex serve | [22:07] |
MBS | they take moneypaks | [22:07] |
MBS | and can withdraw t bank | [22:07] |
MBS | http://serve.com | [22:07] |
* | DBordello checks it out | [22:07] |
EasyAt | http://pastebin.com/Mn6Y7B07 | [22:07] |
MBS | also free $10 (maybe another $10 if that trivia game is still up) for signing up | [22:07] |
btchero2 | johnD__, if you get bitcoins i will pay you cash in the mail | [22:08] |
btchero2 | as long as the rate is good enough | [22:08] |
EasyAt | MBS: the site is not working | [22:08] |
DBordello | EasyAt, works for me | [22:08] |
MBS | yeah its up for me | [22:08] |
EasyAt | are you guys out of the US? | [22:08] |
MBS | https://secure.serve.com/Partners/ESPN/Signup?rafoffer=ESPNRAF&signupoffer=SIGNUPESPN&solid=espnServeHP&intlink=us-serve-dtc-reg-main-20112 | [22:09] |
btchero2 | So serve won't shut you down? | [22:09] |
DBordello | Special Offer: Add cash to your Serve account with a MoneyPak and we'll cover the MoneyPak purchase fee for your first load*. | [22:09] |
MBS | oh i think serve is US only | [22:09] |
DBordello | ah | [22:09] |
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EasyAt | Ah, now that works | [22:09] |
EasyAt | ty | [22:09] |
DBordello | yes, thank you | [22:09] |
johnD__ | btchero2, how secure is it to send cash in the mail, I think there is a possibility it might get intercepted? | [22:09] |
DBordello | Selling up to 100 BTC for MoneyPak | [22:10] |
EasyAt | They don't get angry about moneypak straight to bank? | [22:10] |
btchero2 | yes there is. | [22:10] |
btchero2 | I would say priority shipping with tracking would be ok though | [22:10] |
btchero2 | or i can send money order | [22:10] |
btchero2 | or walmart gift cards | [22:10] |
btchero2 | or whatever | [22:10] |
EasyAt | btchero2: if you can go to walmart you can get a moneypak | [22:10] |
btchero2 | yeah, but dude wants cash | [22:11] |
btchero2 | anon | [22:11] |
btchero2 | and doesn't want moneypaks | [22:11] |
EasyAt | ah | [22:11] |
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GammaG | arg i gotta wait for a my reviews to come in to get paypal 2 btc | [22:12] |
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GammaG | but i guess i understand why, but argggg i needs my btc | [22:13] |
EasyAt | 'My fiancé of 3 years dumped me with the explanation, "we go to Target WAY too much. Also, I don't love you."' | [22:13] |
btchero2 | I don't understand why... If you just did the paypal txn it means nothing | [22:14] |
btchero2 | doesn't mean anything for months | [22:14] |
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DBordello | EasyAt, lol | [22:14] |
btchero2 | EasyAt is that a joke or are you serious? | [22:14] |
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heisenberg | Help | [22:15] |
heisenberg | I need to buy bit coins but don't know how | [22:15] |
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nelisky | heisenberg: and how will you pay for them? | [22:16] |
heisenberg | Paypal (credit card) | [22:16] |
nelisky | well, that's no easy task | [22:16] |
nelisky | some people around here will do it for small amounts | [22:16] |
DBordello | How much information is required for serve? | [22:16] |
btchero2 | just sell meth on sr that is a good way to get bitcoins heisenberg | [22:17] |
heisenberg | I just need 50 Bitcoins | [22:17] |
btchero2 | I like the look of serve | [22:17] |
novusordo | i doubt anyone would sell you 50 bitcoins over paypal | [22:17] |
chmod755 | heisenberg: verified paypal? | [22:17] |
btchero2 | I think i am going to try it | [22:17] |
btchero2 | chmod755 verified doesn't mean non scammer | [22:17] |
chmod755 | btchero2: i know | [22:18] |
heisenberg | Yes | [22:18] |
heisenberg | I am verified | [22:18] |
heisenberg | I can either do 30 or 50. | [22:18] |
novusordo | heisenberg: if you want to buy/sell in this channel, it'll be much easier if you get your gpg keys set up | [22:19] |
heisenberg | I'm pretty new in this | [22:19] |
heisenberg | Im not sure what you mean. | [22:19] |
EasyAt | Sorry, had some work to do | [22:19] |
heisenberg | Im just looking to buy 30-50 bit coins with paypal | [22:19] |
EasyAt | btchero2: No, it was a response by someone to the worst reason they were broken up for | [22:19] |
btchero2 | oh | [22:20] |
novusordo | is the wiki down? | [22:20] |
heisenberg | How do I buy the bit coins? | [22:20] |
btchero2 | i can't use it | [22:20] |
novusordo | heisenberg: this would be the link to the guide, but it seems to be down right now - http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc | [22:21] |
btchero2 | get a moneypak would help heisenberg | [22:21] |
novusordo | yeah, moneypak would be more likely to be accepted than paypal | [22:21] |
heisenberg | Can I not send money directly from paypal? | [22:21] |
heisenberg | Its a transfer from credit card | [22:21] |
btchero2 | you can, but no one will accept | [22:21] |
EasyAt | MBS: do you use this serve service? | [22:21] |
heisenberg | Why will no one accept? | [22:22] |
novusordo | heisenberg: it's too easy to do chargebacks with paypal, so generally people don't do large transactions with it | [22:22] |
btchero2 | risk of chargeback | [22:22] |
copumpkin | or even small transactions | [22:22] |
btchero2 | lots of people come here with the sole intent of scamming us | [22:22] |
copumpkin | since it's such a headache if you get even a small chargeback | [22:22] |
btchero2 | i won't even do small txns | [22:22] |
btchero2 | unless it is someone that is trusted | [22:22] |
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heisenberg | I am defininitely not trying to scam, I am just trying to get 30-50 lol. How can I prove trust? | [22:22] |
novusordo | https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:T5M8yKzXFxcJ:wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=ubuntu | [22:23] |
copumpkin | heisenberg: all scammers say they aren't trying to scam :) | [22:23] |
novusordo | try that link heisenberg ^^ | [22:23] |
novusordo | for getting started on here | [22:23] |
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Raccoon | PayPal doesn't exist. Not in this channel. Don't even pretend it exists. Lets talk about something else. | [22:24] |
heisenberg | I am so confused haha | [22:24] |
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heisenberg | ;;help buy | [22:24] |
btchero2 | We all hate paypal and only use it between inner circles that you will never be a part of if you aren't registered/trusted | [22:24] |
Raccoon | Open a Dwolla Account. | [22:24] |
heisenberg | I have no money in my bank account. Thats why I have to use paypal, because my credit card is working | [22:25] |
EasyAt | I am trying to scam | [22:25] |
jurov | i was interested in dwolla too but it said "US-only" | [22:25] |
EasyAt | can someone send me BTC for paypal plz | [22:25] |
Raccoon | heisenberg: put money in your bank account. | [22:25] |
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novusordo | heisenberg: try buying a moneypak with your credit card, people will accept that way easier than paypal | [22:25] |
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btchero2 | you ever hear that sketch chris rock did about going to the atm at 3 in the morning | [22:26] |
heisenberg | I mean, I can pay extra if someone will sell me 30 | [22:26] |
EasyAt | What do most of you guys do with your moneypaks, if paypal won't let you widthdraw them | [22:26] |
btchero2 | same situation here heisenberg | [22:26] |
chmod755 | EasyAt: I'll give you 0 BTC for 50 USD via paypal, okay? | [22:26] |
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EasyAt | chmod755: Expect a chargeback and a trip to small claims | [22:26] |
EasyAt | chmod755: i mean sure | [22:26] |
heisenberg | Haha what? | [22:27] |
* | phraust has a paypal debit card. | [22:27] |
btchero2 | heisenberg, whenever someone comes in asking for paypal we all pretend we are scammers | [22:27] |
chmod755 | EasyAt: ok send to: nigeria419@mybitcoin.com | [22:27] |
heisenberg | I can pay like $140 for 26 or something haha | [22:28] |
btchero2 | lol | [22:28] |
EasyAt | hehe | [22:28] |
EasyAt | Let me go find my ssn, you might need that | [22:28] |
Staatsfeind | 15:25 < jurov> i was interested in dwolla too but it said "US-only" ← All right, you lazy fucks, this is actually a legitimate reason. You trust PayPal with your money more than | [22:28] |
heisenberg | huh? | [22:28] |
Staatsfeind | Dwolla is not. | [22:28] |
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UndeadLord | EasyAt: Don't forget a copy of your passport | [22:28] |
heisenberg | I just need some bit coins hahaha | [22:28] |
DBordello | ;;rate phraust 2 Sold BTC for $500 MP, he sent first | [22:28] |
Staatsfeind | jurov: What country are you in? | [22:29] |
heisenberg | US | [22:29] |
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phraust | woohoo! | [22:29] |
EasyAt | DBordello: do you put moneypaks into paypal? | [22:29] |
DBordello | EasyAt, I just did | [22:29] |
DBordello | I tried serve, it wouldn't take the number | [22:29] |
jurov | Slovakia. I did some trades with SEPA, I am patient. | [22:29] |
heisenberg | I don't have moneypaks or whatever. Can I buy one online? | [22:29] |
DBordello | which made me nervous .... | [22:29] |
jurov | I just reacted, you seem to send everyone to dwolla, so i was curious | [22:29] |
novusordo | heisenberg: try a local rite-aid or gas station, they usually have them | [22:30] |
EasyAt | It'll show up, I would just space the widthdraws out | [22:30] |
DBordello | EasyAt, any advice on withdrawing it? | [22:30] |
EasyAt | or maybe set up another paypal that you can send the money to as "Goods" | [22:30] |
btchero2 | you need money to buy them though | [22:30] |
btchero2 | he has no money | [22:30] |
btchero2 | he wants to buy drugs with a cc while his bank account is empty | [22:30] |
EasyAt | If you can wait I would do a second paypal and link it to an account | [22:30] |
chmod755 | ;;action arrests heisenberg (#bitcoin-police-jail). Reason: untrusted user trying to buy Bitcoin with PayPal | [22:31] |
Staatsfeind | jurov: Yeah, that's because people are saying stupid shit. Once you build up trust, PayPal will get easier, but it'll take a bit. SEPA's probably your best bet right now. | [22:31] |
EasyAt | Send it over as goods or something | [22:31] |
chmod755 | nah, gribble doesn't work here :( | [22:31] |
DBordello | EasyAt, yeah, i might do that to my girlfriend | [22:31] |
btchero2 | Staatsfeind, did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed? | [22:31] |
Staatsfeind | heisenberg: If you're in the U.S., get your ass down to the closest drugstore and buy yourself a moneypak. | [22:31] |
heisenberg | I don't know how this works. hahaha | [22:31] |
EasyAt | But just $500 shouldn't matter | [22:31] |
EasyAt | I did that a few times, it was when i widthdrew 1k in like 10 minutes after receiving a moneypak that I got the warning the next morning | [22:32] |
Staatsfeind | btchero2: Yeah, I'm too damned cheerful, today. | [22:32] |
* | EasyAt stupid | [22:32] |
DBordello | EasyAt, gotcha | [22:32] |
* | EasyAt EasyAt| | [22:32] |
EasyAt | whoops | [22:32] |
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DBordello | paypal made me verify some info when doing the greendot | [22:33] |
DBordello | does that mean my limits are raised? | [22:33] |
EasyAt| | Your widthdraw limit is raised from 500 i think | [22:33] |
EasyAt| | Because I swear I always had a widthdraw limit of $500 a month... and now i dont | [22:33] |
heisenberg | Is there any way I can get verified and send money from paypal without doing anything but that? | [22:33] |
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EasyAt| | heisenberg: people will do small trades with you for paypal prolly | [22:34] |
EasyAt| | expect to pay a premium | [22:34] |
Staatsfeind | heisenberg: Is there any way i can grow gills? | [22:34] |
EasyAt| | put some money in paypal, have an idea of what you want and come back... Someone will help you on a few im sure | [22:34] |
heisenberg | I need 26 exactly | [22:35] |
chmod755 | heisenberg: did you read what I told you privately? | [22:35] |
heisenberg | I just saw | [22:36] |
Mqrius | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZIVmKOdrBk | [22:36] |
Staatsfeind | .title | [22:36] |
markac | Staatsfeind: Portal 2 - This Is Aperture - YouTube | [22:36] |
novusordo | if you want a paypal verified account, just get a $25 prepaid debit card and enter that as info, you can use up the whole thing and just leave it on your account and it'll stay verified | [22:38] |
Staatsfeind | PayPal verification doesn't affect risk much here. | [22:39] |
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novusordo | it was mostly in reply to EasyAt's comment about the withdrawl limit, not trust | [22:39] |
novusordo | paypal still sucks :P | [22:39] |
Staatsfeind | That's an understatement. | [22:40] |
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DBordello | Selling up to 25 BTC for MoneyPak | [22:46] |
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DBordello | Buying BTC, up to $500 MP | [22:52] |
* | DBordello covers both sides | [22:52] |
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GammaG | oh cory where art thou | [22:53] |
DBordello | GammaG, did you get a MP? | [22:53] |
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jcpham | is it wierd if i insist on getting old heatsinks out old computers | [23:04] |
jcpham | prior to trashing them? | [23:04] |
DBordello | why? | [23:04] |
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jcpham | i'm thinking maybe i'll tak them to the scrap metal ppace one day | [23:05] |
copumpkin | is it something like this? http://www.acousticpc.com/images/noctua_nh_u12dx_xeon_cpu_cooler_dual_pic.jpg | [23:05] |
jcpham | they are solid copper and aluminum | [23:05] |
jcpham | no rip them out and throw them in a large box | [23:06] |
jcpham | i have about 100 lbs now | [23:06] |
copumpkin | http://www.techwarelabs.com/wp-content/gallery/thermaltake-spinq-vt/thumb.jpg | [23:06] |
copumpkin | people come up with the most ridiculous heatsink | [23:06] |
copumpkin | s | [23:06] |
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Mqrius | It looks pretty though. But I'm happy with my massive block of scyte mugen 2 rev b. | [23:08] |
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DBordello | Selling up to 25 BTC via MoneyPak. Buying BTC with up to $500 MP | [23:09] |
Mqrius | You could buy from yourself! You'd lose on your margins though :/ | [23:09] |
sgornick | #6607 SELL 2.22 BTC @ 5.4951 usd (PayPal USD. Some trust required. PM me on IRC.) | [23:10] |
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DBordello | Mqrius, margins are steap | [23:11] |
DBordello | steep* | [23:11] |
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Mqrius | You know what, I'll sell 25 btc for you for $6, you can pay me with a moneypack, but keep it; I'm also buying 25 coins from you with moneypack for $5 per bitcoin. | [23:12] |
Mqrius | You can pay me the difference in bitcoin | [23:12] |
Mqrius | And yeah I know, margins are steep ;) | [23:13] |
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DBordello | ouch | [23:13] |
DBordello | I just lost $25 | [23:13] |
jcpham | how so? | [23:13] |
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Frank90 | Hello people, I have some Home Depot gift cards for sale. The price is 70% of their value, they can be used both online or in any Home Depot store. | [23:16] |
Frank90 | Hello people, I have some Home Depot gift cards for sale. The price is 70% of their value, they can be used both online or in any Home Depot store. someone interested? :) | [23:16] |
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Frank90 | Hello people, I have some Home Depot gift cards for sale. The price is 70% of their value, they can be used both online or in any Home Depot store. someone interested? :) | [23:17] |
jcpham | patience? | [23:17] |
Graet | yep, saw it first 2 times... | [23:17] |
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Frank90 | sorry for double message. ' | [23:18] |
novusordo | *triple | [23:18] |
Staatsfeind | Frank90: I value them at 2‰ of their face value. I don't think you really mean value there. | [23:18] |
jcpham | i could have used those 3 months ago | [23:19] |
Staatsfeind | (Yes, 2‰, as in 0.1 × 2%. :þ) | [23:19] |
jcpham | too bad the house is remodeled now | [23:19] |
Staatsfeind | The symbol ‰ should be used more. ☺ | [23:20] |
Frank90 | what you mean? 70% discount is already a more than decent discount. | [23:20] |
rawrmage | ‰ ‰ ‰ | [23:20] |
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Frank90 | because I dont have a lot of tradings over here I can agree to send first the card to someone and after get my btc. | [23:21] |
Staatsfeind | Frank90: Value is subjective and what you said above is the price is 70% of their value (by which I believe you *meant* face value). That is *not* a 70% discount; that's 30%. | [23:21] |
Staatsfeind | lrn2math | [23:21] |
Staatsfeind | I'm sure with some patience you'll get a better offer, but they're not worth anything close to face value to me. | [23:22] |
Frank90 | yes, you have right. actually the discount is 30% from their value. This means for a $100 card ( you can buy with this $100 in store) i require 70$ worth of btc. | [23:22] |
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GammaG | not yet DBordello | [23:23] |
JohnD_ | looking to buy bitcoin with alertpay | [23:23] |
MBS | lol woops, just noticed my inspection sticker expires this month XD | [23:23] |
GammaG | im still waiting for cory so i can get my good feedback | [23:23] |
JohnD_ | are these kinds of transactions normal around here? | [23:23] |
GammaG | i will prefer to use paypal DBordello because i lose $10 right away with MP | [23:23] |
GammaG | damn atm fee and moneypack fee | [23:24] |
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Staatsfeind | “You have right” doesn't work in English for that meaning; I think you mean “You are right” (and my offer stands at 2‰ face value, although I'm sure someone else will come along who'll pay more). | [23:24] |
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btchero2 | you can buy moneypak with debit card no need for atm fee | [23:24] |
GammaG | it says cash only | [23:24] |
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btchero2 | Ive heard otherwise... but i have never done it | [23:25] |
GammaG | i've asked, they only take cash :( | [23:25] |
Frank90 | Staatsfeind: thanks for correcting me. | [23:25] |
Staatsfeind | A lot of things that say “cash only” accept debit. The point of “cash only” *usually* is not-credit but different merchants wil have different rules. | [23:26] |
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phraust | I've used my debit card for moneypak. | [23:28] |
btchero2 | Ive heard of others also | [23:29] |
phraust | But it was in walmart. dunno about other places. | [23:29] |
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Cory | ;;rate GammaG 1 He bought bitcoins from me with a $130 MoneyPak. | [23:46] |
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DBordello | he has been begging for that | [23:47] |
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Cory | Heh, I saw. | [23:50] |
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Zommy | Buying 15 BC via paypal. | [23:56] |
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