Forum logs for 30 Jan 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
Tril goldtoast you enter the phrase on the terminal that gpg is attached to.. the one you ran it from [00:00]
lyspooner i dont' want to argue on the meaning of speculative, but it's not like bitcoins are supporting a 45 million dollar a year economy based on the current available selection of goods and services [00:01]
Staatsfeind Well, on my systems, a window pops up that asks for the passphrase; it doesn't go in a terminal window usually. [00:01]
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nmat goldtoast you write it and press enter [00:01]
Staatsfeind lyspooner: True, but it's not because of its raw components. :þ [00:01]
goldtoast Tril and nmat, it asks for the pass then outputs freenode:#bitcoin-otc: ...... [00:02]
Cusipzzz lyspooner: what does a 45mil economy look like, and how can you tell be the current btc transactions that this is not it ? [00:03]
Staatsfeind goldtoast: that freenode:#bit… line is what you need to copypaste [00:03]
nmat goldtoast copy that and write to gribble "everify freenode#..." [00:03]
goldtoast ok then eauth... [00:03]
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Staatsfeind everify [00:03]
Staatsfeind ;;eauth vragnaroda [00:03]
goldtoast awesome, just a little confused at that part, thanks nmat and Staatsfeind [00:03]
Staatsfeind ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:e6f2db7427ccf45f2aa87560e704f59c5acf63571eaa41ef8e90eb88 [00:04]
Staatsfeind I'm now authed as vragnaroda. [00:04]
Staatsfeind ;;voiceme [00:04]
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goldtoast yeah! You are now authenticated for user goldtoast with key [00:04]
rg aha [00:04]
Woofcat ;;voiceme [00:04]
rg my room mate is ordering from one place [00:05]
Staatsfeind ;;ident goldtoast [00:05]
rg im ordering from another [00:05]
rg we're having a delivery driver SHOW DOWN [00:05]
rg if they show up at the same time [00:05]
rg they have to fight [00:05]
rg MA state law [00:05]
Staatsfeind [00:05]
goldtoast so im all good Staatsfeind? [00:05]
lyspooner Cusipzzz: in a 45mm dollar economy, i can buy fresh flowers in three major cities. [00:05]
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Tril ;;getrating [ident goldtoast] [00:06]
Tril yup [00:06]
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rg now i think the duud who was gonna buy me food is idle [00:06]
goldtoast tightttt [00:06]
rg doh [00:06]
Staatsfeind goldtoast: Yes. [00:06]
lyspooner otherwise, < 45 [00:06]
Cusipzzz lyspooner: im sure we can find you 3 cities to buy flowers with in btc [00:06]
lyspooner alright, let's do it [00:07]
lyspooner *fresh flowers [00:07]
Cusipzzz ok, how bout nyc, newark, nj, and piladelphia.. meet you there :) [00:07]
rg ok who wants to buy me dinner [00:08]
rg i have to order soon so the delivery guys get here at the same time [00:08]
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rg omg [00:10]
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goldtoast ;;guide [00:13]
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Tril rg i can, if you pay with bitvps credits, i'm too lazy to generate a BTC address [00:16]
MBS here, you can borrow 1MGDNTC2eMeXGAQSZv5EuD9WXnd8yNo3it [00:16]
imsaguy I'm here [00:16]
goldtoast lol [00:17]
MBS anyone want to buy a $1.54 amazon gc for 75 cents paypal [00:17]
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splatster Looking for programming work. [00:33]
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torusJKL ;;gpg eregister torusJKL 7E1DB05AA5CB1D72 [00:39]
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stamit selling one more interesting painting [00:41]
Buglouse wtb IRC Bouncer/proxy /w BTC [00:41]
stamit for 0.2 BTCs [00:42]
stamit who will buy it? [00:43]
torusJKL Hi. How can I buy from the open orders list? Is this done automatically or do I have to get in contact with the seller? I'm authenticated. [00:49]
nmat get in contact with the seller [00:49]
torusJKL What is more common and appreciated, using the email from the GPG fingerprint? Or private message on IRC? [00:51]
nmat IRC first. you can try email, but some people may not use their gpg mails [00:53]
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btchero2 yeah, I registered my nick with a fake email and I now regret it [00:54]
btchero2 not that it matters much [00:54]
torusJKL thanks, nmate [00:54]
btchero2 tab completes names too btv [00:55]
torusJKL btchero2, can't you change the gpg key? [00:55]
btchero2 btw [00:55]
btchero2 I am sure there is a way, but I don't feel like trying :) [00:55]
btchero2 i have a decent feedback here so I don't think it freaks people out or anything, and I check irc more than i check my email anyway [00:56]
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Mqrius Huh. All markets selling in Euro are overpriced compared to current usd rates. [01:01]
Mqrius Maybe I should adjust my rater accordingly [01:01]
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nanotube btchero2: you can always add another UID to your gpg key, if you want to have a valid email [01:10]
btchero2 ok nano [01:11]
btchero2 I will get around to it sometime [01:11]
nanotube btchero2: up to you, was just a suggestion since you were lamenting your fake email :) [01:11]
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btchero2 I used the fake email before everyone here knew every bit of my personal information :) [01:14]
nanotube haha [01:14]
btchero2 now it just seems silly to hide my email from people who look at my house on google maps [01:14]
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Woofcat Anyone here willing to sell BTC via PP? [01:15]
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paulzag ;;getrating Woofcat [01:26]
bitcoin_bonus ;;guide [01:28]
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MILF ;;getrating Woofcat [01:29]
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rg nanotube [01:33]
rg how much would i have to pay you to change my nickname in gribble [01:33]
rg i want to put grubles and my -otc rating on our company site [01:33]
paulzag hey woofcat what rate do you want to pay PP & what currency? [01:33]
rg but i cant write 'hey checkout the admins stats, rapeghost' [01:33]
Woofcat ;;ticker [01:33]
Woofcat looks like market is below $5.40 USD [01:34]
paulzag ;;ticker [01:34]
Woofcat I'm in CAD, so really whatever currency as I'm paying conversion anyways [01:34]
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paulzag I'll take USD or AUD (but haven't done AUD before I'd have to check my pp account [01:35]
paulzag want to start with 4? Or are you looking for a lot more? [01:36]
paulzag oops - moving to chat [01:36]
nanotube rg: you just have to ask nicely :) [01:36]
nanotube rg: which you already did. ;) [01:37]
btchero2 he implied that you would be a bastard and force him to pay [01:37]
btchero2 that is hardly nice [01:37]
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nanotube btchero2: haha well, another way to interpret it is that he'd be willing to give me money. which is something most people would consider a plus :) [01:38]
btchero2 life is all about perspective nanotube [01:39]
rg nanotube: can you make it 'rg' [01:40]
rg just not rapeghost [01:40]
rg pretty please [01:40]
rg btchero2 will dance all sexy for you [01:40]
nanotube lol [01:40]
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Woofcat :( [01:50]
Woofcat he ping timed out [01:50]
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stamit IN NEED OF art patron who can appreciate subtle aspects of art... for 0.2 BTC [01:51]
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Woofcat You want someone to pay $0.10 for some art you drew? [01:52]
stamit i think 0.2 BTC is around one dollar [01:53]
stamit it's only a dollar [01:53]
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stamit i can give you a discount if you want... [01:53]
Tasty Buying 30 BTC ppusd [01:53]
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stamit Woofcat? you want it? it's nice! [01:53]
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stamit it's not just any piece of art [01:54]
Woofcat Lol, not really. [01:54]
* MILF resists temptation to buy digital art... [01:54]
MILF lol [01:54]
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MILF tbh though, i'm trying to slowly hack away at mining [01:55]
stamit it's the process that matters [01:55]
MILF to get me a new video card [01:55]
MILF 6950 isn't sufficient anymore :P [01:55]
MILF i need a 7970 [01:56]
MILF :D [01:56]
stamit if anyone has any input pictures for me, that would be nice too [01:57]
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dirkdizzler ;;getrating tasty [02:03]
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Woofcat wb. [02:04]
paulzag stupid router - it's route table fills up and crashes DNS [02:04]
Woofcat haha [02:05]
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torusJKL Anybody interested in selling 5 BTC for PPUSD or PPCHF to a newbie? [02:08]
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moocow1452 WTS $25 iTunes giftcard. Takers? [02:09]
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stamit ok, Woofcat, 0.1 BTC, i'll give it away for 0.1 BTC [02:10]
stamit or MILF... 0.1 BTC [02:10]
stamit judging by your nick, MILF, you might like it [02:10]
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stamit guess i can't insist too much [02:12]
synx419 anyone sell me bitcoins through paypal? [02:12]
Geno what is this itunes? [02:12]
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moocow1452 iTunes, it's Apple's platform for music, movies and apps for iOS. [02:13]
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Woofcat ;;rate paulzag 1 Bought 4 BTC smooth and quick. [02:15]
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Geno And this "Apple"? [02:17]
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moocow1452 They sell stuff to people at a profit, mostly. [02:18]
paulzag torusJKL: I am [02:19]
Geno interesting [02:19]
paulzag synx419: pm me [02:19]
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paulzag ;;rate Woofcat 1 Sold 4 BTC for USD. [02:20]
moocow1452 last call on the iTunes card? [02:21]
paulzag Okay everyone - wait while I reverify after getting booted [02:21]
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riot3 hello [02:22]
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riot3 is anyone willing to sell me bitcoins via paypal [02:22]
riot3 i know its not safe for the seller and my anonymous word means nothing but i assure you will pay.. [02:23]
Woofcat ;;getrating riot3 [02:23]
riot3 ive never been here before [02:23]
Woofcat riot3, register. [02:23]
Woofcat That'll be your starting point. [02:23]
riot3 i just want bitcoins through paypal [02:23]
riot3 ok [02:23]
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register lol [02:23]
register whoops [02:23]
Woofcat lol [02:23]
Woofcat http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication#Registration [02:24]
Woofcat is what you'll want. [02:24]
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errydayimgenerat gpg is such a bitchin ideaj [02:24]
errydayimgenerat hi riot415 [02:25]
riot415 hello [02:25]
errydayimgenerat how are you doing? [02:25]
riot415 good [02:25]
riot415 how about you? [02:25]
errydayimgenerat what are you getting bitcoins for? [02:25]
riot415 to be honest i havent decided yet [02:26]
Woofcat Lol errydayimgenerat does anyone really want to answer that? [02:26]
errydayimgenerat no [02:26]
riot415 i think for investing at the moment [02:26]
errydayimgenerat but i know riot [02:26]
errydayimgenerat even if he doesn't know who i am [02:26]
riot415 really [02:26]
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riot415 from where [02:26]
paulzag ;;rate Woofcat 1 Sold 4BTC for PPUSD not charged back yet [02:28]
Woofcat I love the 'yet' [02:28]
riot415 so [02:28]
riot415 anyone with paypal [02:28]
Woofcat but thanks paulzag [02:28]
riot415 want to sell bit coins? [02:28]
riot415 if you dont trust me we can do a small amount.. [02:28]
paulzag ;;rate Woofcat 1 Sold 4BTC for PPUSD not charged back [02:28]
Woofcat Lol [02:28]
Woofcat it's fine I just found it funny [02:28]
riot415 its my only method of online payment [02:29]
riot415 at the moment [02:29]
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paulzag ;;getrating synx419 [02:31]
paulzag ;;getrating torusJKL [02:32]
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paulzag ;;identify torusJKL [02:37]
riot415 ok [02:37]
riot415 anyone want to sell some coins? [02:37]
riot415 on paypal.. i know its risky but im good for it [02:38]
riot415 this is so hard, that is literally what every scammer would say.. [02:38]
riot415 next im gonna have to start reverse psychology [02:38]
torusJKL ;;guide [02:38]
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paulzag riot415: pm me [02:39]
MILF riot415, you can probably get someone willing [02:40]
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MILF but you're gonna end up paying a bit more [02:41]
MILF just because of the risk of fraud [02:41]
lahwran Greed: what have you done to me [02:41]
mircea_popescu there are people who will do paypal, you jsut have to be patient and do a coin or two, whartever. [02:41]
mircea_popescu then once you get your rank up it'll be ok. [02:42]
riot415 yeal [02:42]
riot415 yeah* [02:42]
blognewb anyone selling for 5$ [02:42]
riot415 well i will pay a little bit extra [02:42]
riot415 thats about it [02:42]
blognewb WTB 100 BTC @ 5USD [02:42]
mircea_popescu sturles used to do a coin via paypal for noobs, not sure if he stil ldoes. [02:42]
MILF wow...that's a pretty large buy [02:42]
Geno lololololol [02:43]
mircea_popescu the fun part is the people whio could buy a brand new car selling to blognewb. [02:43]
MILF i forget who it was [02:43]
MILF but there was a few people that dealt with me early on [02:43]
torusJKL ;;identify torusJKL [02:43]
MILF though that was a while ago too [02:43]
Cory We did business, MILF. :) [02:43]
MILF yea [02:43]
MILF that's another thing [02:44]
MILF if you're after something specific [02:44]
blognewb mircea_popescu ok now in english [02:44]
MILF you may be able to get someone to buy whatever it is [02:44]
MILF and swap for coinage. [02:44]
mircea_popescu you didn't get that did you ? [02:44]
MILF like what i did with Cory [02:44]
MILF he bought a steam game for me, i paid him in bitcoin [02:44]
blognewb they could buy a matchbox [02:44]
MILF :D [02:44]
mircea_popescu not if they got 100k btc. [02:45]
blognewb a truck full o matchbox [02:45]
MILF 100k btc would buy a REALLY nice car [02:46]
MILF O_o [02:46]
mircea_popescu well not at blognewbs rates :p [02:46]
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imsaguy ooh, someone tipped me in the forums [02:49]
MILF "how'd ya buy that maybach" "paid in full, with bitcoin" [02:49]
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imsaguy and now another, lol [02:50]
mircea_popescu didja do something nice ? [02:51]
MILF imsaguy, whatcha getting tipped for? [02:51]
mircea_popescu posted tits ? [02:51]
imsaguy I dunno [02:51]
imsaguy the second one was for .01234567 [02:51]
MILF rofl [02:51]
imsaguy thats like a nickel! [02:51]
imsaguy now one for 0.00080085 [02:52]
imsaguy they just psent more money sending than they did tipping [02:52]
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imsaguy woo [02:52]
imsaguy its raining moneys [02:52]
imsaguy 0.11899988 [02:52]
MILF lol [02:53]
imsaguy I've now been tipped .13 total [02:53]
imsaguy woo [02:53]
MILF what did ya do? [02:53]
MILF XD [02:53]
imsaguy dunno [02:53]
imsaguy but I'm grateful :) [02:53]
Staatsfeind People can feel free to rain on 1KQSKxdLo6A8JZu1XX9ewfCKEWPhpCE6TA [02:54]
MILF lol [02:55]
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imsaguy oh [02:55]
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imsaguy I did go and payout dividends today [02:55]
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imsaguy and paid a little overage [02:55]
MILF lol [02:55]
imsaguy total tip is now 0.19722646 [02:55]
imsaguy hot diggity [02:55]
MILF that's not bad [02:55]
imsaguy thats a dollar [02:55]
MILF that's almost what i make in a day of mining [02:55]
MILF :P [02:55]
imsaguy really? [02:56]
imsaguy you poor bastard [02:56]
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MILF actually i don't know what i make exactly [02:56]
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MILF ~310mhash [02:57]
MILF so actually i think it's closer to like 0.4 or 0.5 in a day [02:57]
MILF http://autos.yahoo.com/maybach/57/2011/ [02:58]
imsaguy ;;tell MILF [bc,gen 310000] [02:58]
torusJKL MILF, try this http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator.php [02:58]
MILF said car in question :D [02:58]
Staatsfeind lol, someone's a dick [02:58]
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MILF 0.23 [02:59]
imsaguy who's a dick? [02:59]
MILF per day [02:59]
MILF for some reason i thought it was more than that [02:59]
MILF lol [02:59]
etanoox hi @ chan [02:59]
imsaguy MILF, for one card, that's not bad [02:59]
etanoox can anyone sell for paypal ? [02:59]
Staatsfeind imsaguy: http://blockchain.info/address/c9e0f91970bc63ab252d2de29a8411008dd69a43 [02:59]
imsaguy LOL [03:00]
MILF i still liked it early on [03:00]
MILF when i ran a 5770 [03:00]
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MILF and pulled in 1.5 bitcoin per day [03:00]
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Cory Staatsfeind: Ha, if only they had continued to 50 transactions. [03:02]
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Staatsfeind ikr [03:02]
imsaguy free btc is free btc [03:02]
imsaguy regardless of qty [03:02]
imsaguy if you don't like the tiny decimals, send them my way :p [03:02]
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MILF ...or my way [03:02]
MILF lol [03:02]
Staatsfeind imsaguy: It would cost more to do that, though. [03:02]
MILF oh shit [03:03]
imsaguy just let them mature [03:03]
MILF when did blockchain start using qr codes? [03:03]
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imsaguy and send with other btc [03:03]
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MILF that's pretty slick [03:03]
gnaritas hey occulta [03:03]
MILF though (relatively) worthless, as you're already looking at the page. [03:04]
MILF lol [03:04]
occulta hi [03:04]
occulta ill pm you [03:04]
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gnaritas ok [03:04]
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etanoox i can show my ebay account, i just need some btc but i can pay it only with paypal. if anyone can sell me, please pm me, i don't want steal, thanks [03:06]
MILF sounds legit. [03:07]
MILF lol [03:07]
riot415 will anyone sell me bitcoins [03:07]
riot415 on paypal [03:07]
riot415 please [03:07]
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riot415 every person who says they will suddenly quits [03:07]
gigavps riot415: go get a moneypak [03:08]
gigavps stop begging [03:08]
errydayimgenerat how do you find out your long key id on gpg4win? [03:08]
gigavps errydayimgenerat: just do "eauth errydayimgenerat" to gribble [03:08]
riot415 I CANT USE MONEYPAK [03:08]
Staatsfeind riot415: Don't shout. [03:09]
gigavps riot415: sounds like you are out of luck [03:09]
errydayimgenerat with the short key gigavps ? [03:09]
riot415 its stupid [03:09]
riot415 ive made it VERY clear [03:09]
Staatsfeind riot415: *it's [03:09]
riot415 thanks [03:09]
riot415 there has to be a way to purchase bitcoins with paypal [03:09]
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copumpkin riot415: and we've made it very clear that paypal doesn't usually work around here [03:09]
riot415 theres more websites than people [03:09]
errydayimgenerat cause it comes up with key not recognized [03:09]
copumpkin riot415: why must there be? paypal is fundamentally at odds with bitcoin [03:09]
riot415 surely SOME website will do it [03:10]
riot415 i mean [03:10]
riot415 ebay works with paypal [03:10]
riot415 they make a profit [03:10]
copumpkin riot415: yes, and ebay isn't bitcoins [03:10]
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copumpkin riot415: do you understand why we don't use paypal around here? [03:10]
imsaguy buy bitcoins with paypal: memorydealers.com [03:10]
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copumpkin those are physical bitcoins :P [03:10]
riot415 enlighten me [03:10]
errydayimgenerat i only have my shortkey, how do i figure out the long key? [03:11]
copumpkin riot415: bitcoins cannot be charged back, and paypal can be, up to 90/180 days after purchase. Paypal almost always sides with the buyer, and bitcoin is against their agreement anyway. [03:11]
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copumpkin riot415: therefore, a predatory buyer can get bitcoins and then chage back, claiming he was hacked [03:11]
copumpkin paypal sides with him [03:11]
copumpkin and the seller gets screwed [03:11]
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copumpkin you can tell us you're honest but all scammers do that too [03:11]
copumpkin your word means close to nothing [03:11]
errydayimgenerat scammers are the most honest people here [03:11]
* Staatsfeind scams errydayimgenerat. [03:12]
errydayimgenerat should have seen that coming [03:12]
rawrmage lol [03:12]
copumpkin riot415: it's the same deal with credit cards, because they can be charged back too. The fundamental issue is to have one currency that can be revoked and another that can't be. Moneypak is fairly safe in that regard, and is why people like it around here [03:12]
Staatsfeind see‽ [03:12]
riot415 what? [03:12]
copumpkin riot415: insisting that you want to use paypal doesn't make it any less risky for the seller [03:12]
copumpkin riot415: what what? [03:13]
copumpkin in the butt? [03:13]
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riot415 so [03:13]
riot415 how can you buy them? [03:13]
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riot415 you cant use money... [03:13]
rawrmage ‽π [03:13]
riot415 can you only generate them? [03:13]
copumpkin riot415: with a moneypak, or at a great premium for someone to take the risk with you on paypal [03:13]
riot415 i can't [03:13]
riot415 i cant [03:13]
riot415 can not [03:13]
Staatsfeind Dwolla, Liberty Reserve, cash, Pecunix, etc. [03:13]
riot415 use moneypak [03:13]
riot415 but [03:13]
nmat riot415: where are you?switzerland? [03:13]
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riot415 thats all currency [03:13]
riot415 whats the difference? [03:13]
riot415 paypal = currency [03:13]
Staatsfeind Those are not ScamPal. [03:14]
riot415 credit cards = currency [03:14]
copumpkin riot415: then wait for a risk-tolerant guy to show up and sell to you with paypal at a great premium over spot [03:14]
riot415 why cant we use [03:14]
riot415 i dont get it at all [03:14]
Staatsfeind PayPal is a money transmitter; it is not a currency. [03:14]
copumpkin riot415: I just explained [03:14]
copumpkin riot415: what part of it don't you understand? [03:14]
riot415 it all uses currenc [03:14]
copumpkin riot415: seriously [03:14]
copumpkin riot415: what part of "too risky" did you not understand? [03:14]
Staatsfeind Are you fucking retarded? [03:14]
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nmat riot415: are you in a SEPA zone? if so, you can buy them with a bank transfer. [03:14]
copumpkin Staatsfeind puts it more eloquently than I [03:15]
Woofcat riot415, Here, I'll explain the reasons. With paypal you can 'charge back' same with a credit card. Where this is impossible with bitcoins. So if you pay me say $20 USD via paypal. Then I give you 3 BTC. You could in theory charge back the $20 our of my account. Whilst keeping the 3 BTC. [03:15]
occulta lol @ scroll [03:15]
etanoox you are sure a good coder, but you are still a nerd, you just talk without soul... but you are coder, so... [03:15]
riot415 what is charge back? [03:15]
riot415 what is charge back? [03:15]
riot415 please [03:15]
occulta google.com [03:15]
errydayimgenerat it's when you get your money back [03:15]
copumpkin riot415: I just explained it :( [03:15]
Woofcat riot415, where you report you didn't get the item and ask paypal for your money back. [03:15]
copumpkin riot415: it's when you contest a charge on your credit card or paypal [03:15]
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copumpkin lol [03:16]
nmat annoying [03:16]
copumpkin lost cause is lost [03:16]
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Woofcat I mean, you can buy with paypal. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=Woofcat is proof of that. [03:16]
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Woofcat However you need to not be a dick about it. [03:16]
errydayimgenerat man [03:17]
errydayimgenerat i tried helping him out [03:17]
Staatsfeind You also need patience. [03:17]
errydayimgenerat but when he had his 8 digit id [03:17]
errydayimgenerat and we couldn't figure out to get to 16 digit [03:17]
errydayimgenerat he started freaking [03:17]
Staatsfeind Well, sorry, but I don't know that gpg4win shit. If you run gpg on the command line, gpg -k --keyid-format long [03:18]
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errydayimgenerat is someone else able to do it for yoU? [03:18]
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imsaguy yeah, use teamdesktop [03:19]
imsaguy and someone can do it for you [03:19]
errydayimgenerat like cna't you just put int he id [03:20]
errydayimgenerat and get the long one? [03:20]
errydayimgenerat oh well he's a moron [03:22]
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BTC_Bear errydayimgenerat: If this is you: User 'errydayimgenerat', with keyid C7C3F3750594495A and fingerprint 7A60083422FB48F3B4F681FEC7C3F3750594495A, registered on Sat Jan 28 02:20:14 2012. Currently authenticated from hostmask errydayimgenerat!~trikkiyni@phl-69-171-168-44.evdo.leapwireless.net [03:24]
errydayimgenerat i know who i am [03:25]
errydayimgenerat i was trying to help out riot415 [03:25]
errydayimgenerat i forgot how i went from 8digit to 16 yesterday [03:25]
paulzag errydayimgenerat: the advice is in the ;;guide authentication bit, but it's a command line switch to output long [03:27]
paulzag for the next 40 mins I'm willing to sell small lots =< 10btc for PPUSD [03:28]
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errydayimgenerat i saw that for gnu [03:28]
errydayimgenerat i'm thinking gpg4win [03:29]
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paulzag yeah each client is different, [03:30]
Woofcat Anyone ever use http://www.luckycoin.in [03:31]
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phraust any btc for moneypack? [03:33]
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phraust ;;buy 92 .6 btc at 5.4 USD MoneyPak ($500) [03:43]
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pirateat40 hmmm [03:46]
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sgornick ;;sell 2.22 BTC at "{mtgoxask}" usd PayPal USD. Some trust required. PM me on IRC. [03:53]
Woofcat ;;getratomg sgornick [03:55]
Woofcat ;;getratimg sgornick [03:55]
[Manic] 3rd times the charm [03:55]
Woofcat Apparently I'm a mental child when trying to type lefty [03:55]
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thisguy How would I go about buying bitcoin with a moneypak? [03:56]
Woofcat thisguy, get registered. [03:57]
Woofcat then offer to buy some BTC for moneypak [03:57]
Woofcat ;;getrating thisguy [03:57]
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* Staatsfeind smacks Woofcat. [03:57]
Woofcat ? [03:57]
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Staatsfeind Woofcat: getrating on someone without identing them is stupid and dangerous. [03:58]
Staatsfeind Also, use gettrust, not getrating. [03:58]
errydayimgenerat god today sucks [03:58]
Staatsfeind ;;gettrust [ident Woofcat] [03:58]
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Woofcat Staatsfeind, how is get rating with out identing someone dangerous? [03:59]
Woofcat I mean, the rating lets me know if they're authed. [03:59]
BTC_Bear test it on me [03:59]
BTC_Bear you'll see [03:59]
Woofcat ;;getrating BTC_Bear [03:59]
paulzag ;;gettrust [ident Woofcat] [03:59]
BTC_Bear now do as vrag suggests [03:59]
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Woofcat Yeah, one generates a lovely graph. [04:00]
Woofcat the other one tells me their rating and if they're authed [04:00]
nmat because they can be registered with a different name [04:01]
Staatsfeind That shouldn't be the only difference. [04:01]
Woofcat Yeah, I know. Hence the authentication portion. [04:01]
Staatsfeind ;;getrating BTC_Bear [04:01]
BTC_Bear Freenode nick ≠ GPG Nick [04:02]
BTC_Bear always [04:02]
Staatsfeind also, lol @ Staatsfeind rating [04:02]
Woofcat Yeah, I understand that. [04:02]
Staatsfeind ;;tell Woofcat [getrating Staatsfeind] [04:02]
Staatsfeind ;;tell Woofcat [getrating [ident Staatsfeind]] [04:03]
Staatsfeind lol [04:03]
Woofcat cool [04:03]
Staatsfeind The Staatsfeind that's in gribble's database, that GPG key has been revoked. [04:04]
Tasty Buying 32 btc, paypal [04:04]
Staatsfeind ;;rate Staatsfeind 9 [04:04]
BTC_Bear ;;rate Staatsfeind 0 Ditto Imsaguy [04:05]
Staatsfeind Woohoo! 0 cumulative rating! [04:05]
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Woofcat in other BTC news. Anyone use luckycoin.in before? [04:06]
copumpkin theyhat.in [04:06]
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Cusipzzz mtgox x175 1,961.9971 @ 5.43355611 USD O.o [04:09]
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Woofcat wb DBordello [04:10]
DBordello Thanks woofy [04:10]
DBordello How are those coins treating you? [04:10]
Woofcat Lol the ones you sold me? Well they paid for VPN then some gambling. [04:10]
Woofcat so all gone and bought a bunch more since then [04:10]
Woofcat lol [04:10]
DBordello excellent [04:10]
DBordello hah [04:10]
copumpkin Cusipzzz: problem? [04:10]
DBordello time to back charge em? :) [04:10]
Woofcat Lol ohh yeah [04:11]
Woofcat that's on my todo list [04:11]
Cusipzzz copumpkin: nope [04:11]
DBordello cool [04:11]
* copumpkin roars like a big hairy bear [04:11]
Woofcat I found out my old friend has a stash of 36 BTC [04:11]
Woofcat so thinking I'll pick those up at 80% value [04:12]
pirateat40 Cusipzzz, you did that!!! I can't believe you. [04:12]
* copumpkin slaps pirateat40 [04:12]
* pirateat40 gets up off the floor. [04:12]
* copumpkin stands back and looks smug [04:13]
thisguy sorry but how do I register? This all seems so arcane. [04:14]
Woofcat Lol. it's secure. [04:15]
Woofcat So arcane be damned [04:15]
Woofcat read ;;guide [04:15]
pirateat40 Its so we never have to deal with this guy that just comes in and tries to scam us. [04:16]
pirateat40 :) [04:16]
thisguy ;;guide [04:17]
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Greed Anyone wanna buy 25 BTC? [04:17]
Tasty If you accept paypal then yes. [04:18]
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paulzag Greed: how much [04:19]
Greed ;;getrating Tasty [04:19]
Greed 5.5 [04:19]
paulzag ;;getrating [ident Greed] [04:20]
paulzag USD? [04:20]
Greed yep [04:20]
novusordo ;;buy 4.57 btc at 5.46 usd ($25 moneypak) [04:21]
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novusordo greed do you accept moneypak? [04:22]
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paulzag ;;rate Greed 1 sold BTC for PPUSD easy and fast [04:34]
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Cory http://www.xc0n.com/2012/01/yo-anon-let-me-get-bitcoin.html "I wrote this 2012 hip hop song while sitting in bitcoin-otc and got nazid out of the room for mentioning marijuana.. lulz to be had." [04:37]
novusordo man, bought a moneypak thinking it'd be gone in 5 mins... slow night tonight [04:37]
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phraust last time I think it took me about a day. [04:38]
MILF so.... [04:38]
MILF did jjgames stop accepting bitcoins? [04:38]
MILF i know they used to a while back [04:39]
phraust i been having fun on a dragons tale. [04:40]
phraust easy come, easy go though. won like 6 btc, managed to gamble it all away. [04:40]
phraust damn fishing. [04:41]
MILF that's like 25 dollars [04:42]
MILF rofl [04:42]
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paulzag ;;ticker [04:46]
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* Now talking on #bitcoin-otc [17:03]
* Topic for #bitcoin-otc is: OTC marketplace for Bitcoin trading and exchange. || http://bitcoin-otc.com/ || Bot's control sequence is ';;'. || Start with the ;;guide || Before you trade, talk to people, and check user ratings. || Beware the FRAUDSTERS. ;;fraud || Trade Options: http://polimedia.us/btc || Bitcoin VPS: http://www.bitvps.com || Support bitcoin-otc! 1F1dPZxdxVVigpGdsafnZ3cFBdMGDADFDe [17:03]
* Topic for #bitcoin-otc set by nanotube at Mon Dec 19 23:38:55 2011 [17:03]
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paulzag ;;guide [17:39]
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lunks won't prices go high anymore? :~ [17:44]
DBordello I have 80 BTC for sale. Make me an offer [17:44]
copumpkin lunks: nobody ever knows :) [17:44]
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lunks copumpkin: i'm really hoping it does. :P [17:45]
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imsaguy2 DBordello, I could use a few [17:46]
imsaguy2 is my ppusd any good with you? [17:46]
DBordello it is [17:47]
DBordello but I was looking for someone more desperate I could rip off :) [17:47]
jcpham ha [17:47]
DBordello not you [17:47]
imsaguy2 lol [17:47]
imsaguy2 ok fair enough [17:48]
copumpkin at least he's honest [17:48]
imsaguy2 I'll just do some pool withdrawals [17:48]
jcpham i have a lot of coin out on pools now myself [17:48]
jcpham or pseudo-pools [17:48]
imsaguy2 I wouldn't say I have a lot out there [17:48]
jcpham that don't payput [17:48]
imsaguy2 yeah [17:48]
jcpham lol [17:48]
jcpham i'm looking at 15 btc on 3 "pools" [17:49]
jcpham some people might call that a lot [17:49]
imsaguy2 true [17:50]
jcpham imsaguy2 one of the new 6950's went SICK over the wwekend [17:50]
jcpham on 900/775 [17:50]
imsaguy2 doh [17:50]
jcpham ;p [17:50]
imsaguy2 heat related? [17:50]
jcpham dunno. don't think so [17:51]
jcpham i'll guess power first [17:51]
imsaguy2 one sick isn't anything to worry about [17:51]
imsaguy2 I'd say restart and go again [17:51]
imsaguy2 sometimes its just a minor power thing [17:51]
jcpham i did [17:51]
jcpham slowed that gpu a tad [17:51]
imsaguy2 I periodically restart anyway [17:51]
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imsaguy2 going from 900 to 890 or 895 isn't a big deal [17:52]
imsaguy2 and if it keeps it from goign sick, even better [17:52]
jcpham i should probably start rebooting weekly or something [17:52]
imsaguy2 linux or windows? [17:52]
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jcpham i think itook that one down to 875. leenux [17:52]
imsaguy2 ah [17:52]
imsaguy2 I have mine on windows (save the bashing :P) so the patch tuesday takes care of that for me [17:53]
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imsaguy2 monthly restarts seem to be good [17:53]
DBordello Alright, time to rally today [17:53]
imsaguy2 I concur [17:53]
jcpham yes. rally mode [17:53]
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DBordello I must OC too hard, I'd say my box reboots about once a day [17:53]
jcpham we got a lame ass gawker article [17:53]
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jcpham everyone will want to buy btc for guns now [17:54]
DBordello but I am backing off on the OC for now [17:54]
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nelisky want to buy coins with ukash or paysafecard? ask my bot about rates -> /privmsg neliskybot help [17:56]
Greed no [17:57]
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nelisky Greed: ok, then ;) [17:57]
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vite help me please https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=61905.0 [17:59]
jcpham what does it say there [17:59]
bluefirecorp I'd guess 1:8 vite, a lot of hidden females out there. [18:00]
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vite wonder why they need to hide LOL [18:01]
DBordello vite, the poll is too narrow [18:02]
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DBordello we can rule out the top 3 options [18:02]
imsaguy2 you don't offer much range [18:03]
imsaguy2 there's no 1:10 or 1:100 [18:03]
imsaguy2 its either 1:1, all or none [18:03]
vite imsaguy lol [18:03]
jcpham it's a speculation [18:04]
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vite ok added one more option [18:04]
imsaguy2 what sort of power do the 5970s consume? [18:05]
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vite electricity id assume [18:05]
nelisky imsaguy2: I have a 3 GPU machine totalling 850w [18:05]
jcpham i think like 400w per [18:05]
nelisky underclocked ram [18:06]
nelisky 5 of 6 cores overclocked to 800~840 [18:06]
nelisky water cooled [18:06]
nelisky (and for sale :) ) [18:06]
imsaguy2 I'd buy 5970s, but I don't want watercooled or a full rig [18:07]
nelisky 850W from the wall, so that's the whole machine [18:07]
nelisky yeah, I'll probably part it out to sell, but I, *ahem*, lost the original screws [18:07]
nelisky I do have the fans, but the screws went MIA [18:08]
DBordello nelisky, you are water cooled? [18:09]
imsaguy2 pm me your asking price and your state :) [18:09]
Greed Someone here was meant to give me cards at some point [18:09]
Greed I can't remember who [18:09]
Greed Was going to buy 5870's or 6990's [18:09]
Greed Wasn't shakaru [18:09]
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nelisky imsaguy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=61203.msg716355#msg716355 [18:10]
nelisky DBordello: yeah, to some extent [18:10]
imsaguy2 damn [18:10]
imsaguy2 european [18:10]
imsaguy2 that's most likely a deal breaker [18:11]
nelisky I'm selling most of my WC material, really good in terms of noise / temp, but too much babysitting [18:11]
nelisky imsaguy2: yep, that's my experience [18:11]
nelisky imsaguy2: I'll sell, but it's expensive and may take a long time to arrive [18:11]
DBordello why a lot of babysitting? [18:12]
DBordello don't you set it up and go? [18:12]
nelisky DBordello: in theory, yeah [18:13]
DBordello in practice? [18:13]
nelisky but in practice if you need to reset a block you need to drain the whole circuit [18:13]
nelisky and adding / removing cards is a nightmare [18:13]
nelisky and I once had a leak that cost me quite a bit of money, so I visually inspect everything regularly [18:14]
nelisky (though the leak was a one off thing, haven't happened again) [18:14]
DBordello ah, okay [18:14]
DBordello maybe I'll stay on air.... [18:14]
nelisky overall, if you need a good space heater generating coins, WC is the way to go [18:14]
nelisky don't go cheap on the hw, though :) [18:14]
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DBordello ah [18:15]
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imsaguy2 my warmest card is 62.5 [18:20]
imsaguy2 woo [18:20]
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nelisky I really wouldn't need WC for the temp alone during the winter, but in the summer I had to underclock the damn things [18:21]
nelisky with WC they stay ~40C tops [18:22]
imsaguy2 Im not worried about 62.5 [18:22]
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DBordello This guy who wants me to setup a pool for him gave me some shitty vps [18:23]
DBordello that I can't connect to [18:23]
DBordello What are the odds that CentOs is running in 17MB :/ [18:23]
DBordello approximately 0%? [18:24]
DBordello i lied, it is running [18:25]
DBordello impressive [18:25]
DBordello y [18:25]
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Graet lol wht specs on the vps? and how many miners is he expecting to support? [18:26]
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DBordello not many I don't think [18:27]
DBordello it is more private [18:27]
DBordello maybe 40 GH/s tops [18:27]
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Graet kk gl :) [18:34]
DBordello Thanks [18:35]
DBordello sadly, I have already done this once [18:35]
Graet shitty vps is shitty , i started on a reasonable one and ithin 2 weeks realised i needed something much better [18:35]
DBordello and then he killed the VPS [18:35]
Graet lol [18:35]
DBordello i had ecoinpool running [18:35]
Graet cool [18:35]
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phraust so these VPS that everyone keeps talking about are for mining? [18:51]
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bluefirecorp pharno: no. [18:55]
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DBordello very much no [18:56]
phraust oh. [18:56]
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Graet lol [18:57]
bluefirecorp phraust: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_server [18:57]
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phraust Yeah, i was just wondering why there so popularly discussed here. [18:57]
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Graet one of the many things a vps can be used for is running a pool. you can mine on a vps, but the provider might not like you for long ;) [18:58]
phraust ah. [18:58]
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Graet becvause its something ppl sell for bitcoihns [18:58]
phraust thanks. [18:58]
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Graet :) [18:58]
bluefirecorp Graet: Well, if you are paying for a service, you might as well be using it. As long as there's nothing in their ToS, really they can't do much. [18:58]
phraust I just figured if you were technically able to mine, you'd probably have an extra server in a closet somewhere. [18:59]
Graet bluefirecorp that depends on the TOS etc, if you want to be pedantic go ahead, i'm off to make coffee [18:59]
DBordello sometimes you need better connectivity/uptime [18:59]
luke-jr my ToS forbids mining :P [18:59]
DBordello sometimes you need better connectivity/uptime [18:59]
Graet bluefirecorp they can limit your vps cpu and ram till its unusable...:P [19:00]
phraust makes sense. [19:00]
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bluefirecorp Graet: NOT if they gave you rates that are guaranteed :P [19:00]
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bluefirecorp I really need to sit down and finish some work one of these days. I have at least a dozen different projects started, just don't wanna finish them =/ [19:01]
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phraust whoever that was that suggeste archlinux, thanks. having lots of fun with it. [19:02]
UukGoblin ... modern youth [19:03]
Graet plenty of dodgy vps providers out there bluefirecorp "in an ideal world" maybe :P [19:03]
imsaguy2 jcpham: ping [19:03]
DBordello wow, archlinux is still around? [19:04]
DBordello I used that like 10 years ago [19:04]
bluefirecorp I've considered setting up my own company, but I really couldn't stand the idea of colocation and all the paper work =/ [19:04]
Dark_Apostrophe Few distros ever seem to die [19:04]
Dark_Apostrophe Some people still use Slackware [19:04]
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GammaG hi cory! [19:04]
DBordello ah yes, slackware [19:05]
UukGoblin I haven't seen anyone using monkey linux, which was my first [19:05]
phraust I was a big fan of slax for ages. [19:05]
GammaG good morning everyone [19:05]
phraust Last time Ireally used linux I just made it all from scratch for an old amd k6, but that was in like 00. [19:06]
jcpham pong mofo [19:06]
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Dark_Apostrophe I had a pause for about 3 years, back on Linux now. In that time, I used OS X and Windows... Miss OS X, but I love Linux. :P [19:07]
jcpham imsaguy2 hi [19:07]
GammaG the website db is down for gribble instructions, what was the verify command? [19:07]
GammaG i've been gone, i forgot [19:07]
Dark_Apostrophe Since Ubuntu ditched GNOME, it got a whole lot better - so now I'm using it. Used to use Debian (and occasionally Gentoo) [19:07]
DBordello ubuntu ditched gnome? [19:07]
DBordello when? [19:07]
Dark_Apostrophe Release before the current [19:08]
phraust I was using linux mint for a bit, but wanted something a litle slimmer. [19:08]
DBordello what is it called now? [19:08]
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Dark_Apostrophe They built a new desktop environment based on GTK called Unity [19:08]
DBordello is that unity? [19:08]
DBordello ah [19:08]
phraust that was pretty, but without any need for a gui, top heavy. [19:08]
Dark_Apostrophe Very Mac OS X inspired [19:08]
DBordello i like gnome better, me thinks [19:08]
Dark_Apostrophe I used to use KDE [19:08]
Dark_Apostrophe Never could get into GNOME, it was too esoteric in.. everything for my taste [19:08]
jcpham i hate it when i have to unity --replace [19:09]
Dark_Apostrophe A guy at work uses it. I've watched him use his computer and I still don't know what's going on [19:09]
jcpham because my windows don't work [19:09]
Dark_Apostrophe Hasn't happened to me yet, though it does have some other bugs [19:09]
vigilyn unity is too flashy for me [19:09]
jcpham i have all sorts of crazy transparent terminals with unity [19:10]
Dark_Apostrophe Flashy? Hmm... not heard it described as such before. It's more Mac OS X-inspired minimalism, in my opinion [19:10]
jcpham and a seamless win7 vbox [19:10]
Dark_Apostrophe Ah [19:10]
jcpham eventually it starts acting strange [19:10]
Dark_Apostrophe This is a shitty laptop, don't really use it for much besides browsing, email, IRC, etc. [19:10]
jcpham this is ashitty del. i use it for everything! [19:10]
Dark_Apostrophe My desktop is a win7 box, mainly used for media, gaming and other high-performance tasks (mining also, back when it was still possible for a single individual to do so) [19:11]
GammaG anyone able to tell me how to decrpyt the OPT using command like with wget [19:11]
jcpham wget -q -O - http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/C71FB5ED6ACE04AF | gpg -q --output - --decrypt [19:11]
jcpham ;;eauth [19:11]
GammaG thank you sir :)) [19:11]
jcpham ;;verify the response string from above [19:12]
imsaguy2 jcpham, do you use one of the prepackaged linux miners or make your own? [19:12]
jcpham huh? [19:12]
jcpham i use cgminer... [19:12]
GammaG i forgot -q [19:12]
GammaG i guess that was my problem [19:12]
imsaguy2 some people use that linux miner on a stick or whatever [19:13]
imsaguy2 I was curious if you used that? [19:13]
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jcpham oh. linuxcoin. [19:13]
jcpham no I use ubuntu and would use ubuntu. [19:13]
jcpham i like 10.04 [19:13]
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jcpham imsaguy2 -> http://pastebin.com/kggPc5Rp [19:17]
jcpham I install ubuntu 11.04 desktop and run that script [19:17]
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jcpham *10.04, not 11.04. 10.04 is a quicker install and seems to work better for me. [19:18]
imsaguy2 ok [19:18]
imsaguy2 I was halfway to asking why you use 10 instead of 11 [19:18]
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foggyb [FOR SALE] two 5-ounce bars J&M silver - asking spot + 3% [19:18]
jcpham i've tried 11.xx and sometimes i get no graphics [19:19]
jcpham after a default install [19:19]
jcpham nah it's cool. just pm me [19:20]
Graet nice script, old cgminer tho ;) [19:20]
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jcpham yes you may want to update some versions [19:21]
copumpkin jjjrmy: nice Ph.D.! [19:21]
copumpkin in what? [19:22]
jjjrmy in doctoring [19:22]
copumpkin lol [19:22]
copumpkin doctoring evidence? [19:22]
jcpham nice [19:22]
copumpkin that's what most Ph.Ds get their doctorates in [19:22]
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imsaguy2 on a different network, my nick is drnick [19:27]
imsaguy2 but someone's squatting on that nick here [19:27]
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copumpkin https://twitter.com/#!/DrNic [19:29]
jcpham i've just heard the hardest dubstep ever [19:29]
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imsaguy2 jcpham, why are you using old cgminer? [19:31]
jcpham becasue the script was written when it wasn't old [19:32]
imsaguy2 lol [19:33]
imsaguy2 ok [19:33]
imsaguy2 just trying to determine if it was a performance thing [19:33]
jcpham nah. pure lazy [19:33]
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imsaguy2 well, I'm gonna give the usb install a go [19:34]
imsaguy2 compare the rates [19:34]
imsaguy2 see if I can't get more hashes [19:34]
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jcpham lemme know [19:34]
jcpham maybe I need to switch to windows ;p [19:34]
Graet lol [19:34]
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Graet i had 2 identical 4 x 6950 gd70 rigs, one on xubuntu following kanois instructions from in cgminer folder and one on win7 - speeds were as good as identical [19:36]
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jcpham several months ago I tested both and preferred linux [19:36]
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Graet i think we need to get over the fud and let people us the tools they are most comfortable with ;) [19:36]
jcpham but the hash speeds were the same [19:36]
Graet yep [19:37]
jcpham yes exactly, I was more comfortable with ubuntu [19:37]
Graet :) [19:37]
Graet i use both as i support both :) [19:37]
jcpham a few years ago it would have been windows [19:37]
jcpham i do too. I switched to ubuntu as my work desktop sometime after win7 [19:37]
jcpham so now that i use it everyday, i prefer for myself [19:38]
Graet tho when i'm lazy a win install is quicker/easier :P [19:38]
imsaguy2 a win install is more expensive [19:38]
Graet yep, i use win on my desktop coz i never could get any tv card to work satisfactorily in nix :/ [19:38]
Graet tru as well imsaguy [19:38]
imsaguy2 I'm a Microsofty [19:39]
imsaguy2 but I hate paying $100 for miners [19:39]
jcpham I have some super awesome MS certs [19:39]
Graet i have spare keys... [19:39]
jcpham tlol [19:39]
Graet msdn ftw [19:40]
Graet <.< [19:40]
Graet >.> [19:40]
imsaguy2 heh [19:41]
imsaguy2 licensing.microsoft.com ftw [19:41]
imsaguy2 that beats msdn and/or technet [19:41]
imsaguy2 god bless kms [19:42]
imsaguy2 but obviously that isn't more my home [19:42]
imsaguy2 for my home* [19:42]
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jcpham eopen is win. although it isn't eopen anymore [19:47]
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aqwpm hi, i would like to know how to buy bitcoin using paypal, credit card ou paysafecard, any infos ? [20:24]
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phraust aqwpm, the fastest way I know of is using MoneyPak. [20:27]
phraust plus it's non-reversable. [20:28]
aqwpm thank you, i'll get more infos on the website [20:28]
phraust n/p [20:28]
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aqwpm oh you can buy moneypak only in the us, and i live in france, too bad [20:29]
nelisky aqwpm: I sell for psc [20:29]
phraust ah, sorry. [20:30]
nelisky do /privmsg neliskybot help [20:30]
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nelisky it will explain how to get the rates [20:30]
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nelisky or pm me of course [20:30]
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aqwpm great, thank you [20:33]
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nelisky aqwpm: it's still a work in progress, so even if you decide not to trade, any feedback is appreciated [20:38]
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aqwpm i will trade tomorrow (i don't have my paysafe card on me), but for a beginner like me, the bot looks great [20:38]
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nelisky cool, thanks! [20:40]
nelisky it still needs some work, so don't be shy to point out the wrinkles... [20:40]
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aqwpm ok ! [20:46]
rg pretty as a peacock [20:46]
rg just as gay! [20:46]
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GammaG once u get the info back on your OTP [21:00]
GammaG what is the command to gribble to verify it [21:01]
GammaG the wiki is down and i havent been around for awhile i forgot :( [21:01]
phraust it's ;;everify [21:01]
phraust so, ;;everify [21:02]
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phraust or if you are pm'ing, no need for the double semicolons. [21:02]
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GammaG Error: No outstanding encryption-based request found. [21:02]
phraust i think you need to get it all done within a few minutes. [21:02]
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GammaG ahh [21:03]
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NiceKind hi everyone, how can I find someone in Germany to take my money for BC? [21:04]
copumpkin NiceKind: a lot of europeans sell bitcoins for SEPA bank transfers [21:04]
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copumpkin I can give you some names if you're interested in that [21:05]
NiceKind That's the usual and anonymous way? [21:05]
copumpkin it's not anonymous [21:05]
copumpkin but there aren't many other good payment methods [21:05]
NiceKind I see, how about the names? Is that any better than sepa? [21:05]
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copumpkin Mqrius, sturles, and yossarian_ all do european bank transfers fairly often for bitcoins, I think [21:06]
copumpkin probably many others [21:06]
nelisky I usually sell for SEPA, and also for ukash or psc if you need anonymous (but more expensive) [21:06]
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nelisky did you check the otc order book, there are plenty options there [21:07]
NiceKind Ah, well will do that, you are quite a help here! [21:07]
Mqrius NiceKind: I sent you a private message, there should be a tab up there ^ [21:08]
NiceKind Thanks for the names, I will get into it! [21:09]
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nelisky NiceKind: also, you might want to ask on #bitcoin-otc-eu, which is EU centric [21:12]
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NiceKind Thanks for the info all, BYE [21:16]
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Raccoon Will work for Bitcoins. [21:18]
jcpham oh cool. [21:19]
jcpham what are your talents Racoo [21:19]
Raccoon I suppose that depends on what you need. :) [21:21]
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jcpham pretty vague [21:22]
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Raccoon i suppose resume building isn't high on that list ;p [21:24]
GammaG anyone around that does paypal for btc, i am tired of loosing ATM fee's getting cash out for moneypacks [21:24]
Staatsfeind *losing [21:24]
GammaG losing :) [21:24]
GammaG or $300 money pack for btc, for those i require atleast 50% btc upfront. only have 1 mp card [21:25]
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jcpham ;;getrating GammaG [21:26]
Raccoon paypal will not only reverse charges to piss you off, but they'll suspend your account too [21:26]
GammaG if your around cory i'd like todo another trade off [21:26]
GammaG u were a pleasure to work with [21:26]
Staatsfeind Well, some are better than others at using them and evading their notice, but I don't touch it. :| [21:26]
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jcpham sometimes i accpe paypal [21:27]
Raccoon GammaG: why haven't you gotten a dwolla account yet? [21:27]
DBordello I am selling. I accept MP [21:27]
GammaG im not aware of what a dwolla account is [21:27]
jcpham but i'll charge you an arm and a leg and you need a high rating [21:27]
Raccoon Dwolla. Create an account -> Add bank checking info -> Wait 2-3 days for ACH transfer of two small deposits -> Verify bank checking info (said deposit amounts) -> Initiate Transfer $USD from checking to MtGox -> Wait 2-3 days for ACH transfer. No Movement on Weekends. Overall expected time from start to finish, 7 to 8 days. Start now. [21:27]
GammaG see i don't have a bank account i will use online [21:28]
jcpham last time i did dwolla to gox it was 11 days [21:28]
Raccoon Dwolla is like Paypal, but not evil [21:28]
GammaG i only have 1 i use and its for my paycheck deposit [21:28]
Raccoon GammaG: then open one that you will use [21:28]
DBordello GammaG, how much are you looking to buy? [21:28]
GammaG i never give anyone access to it online [21:28]
DBordello Selling up to 100BTC via MoneyPak [21:29]
Raccoon walk over to the bank, open a new account. [21:29]
GammaG ;;getrating DBordello [21:29]
DBordello ;;getrating GammaG [21:30]
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DBordello ;;getrating [ident GammaG] [21:32]
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DBordello gracias [21:33]
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Staatsfeind DBordello: Well, check this out (it's rather funny): [21:33]
Staatsfeind ;;tell DBordello [getrating Staatsfeind] [21:33]
Staatsfeind ;;tell DBordello [getrating [ident Staatsfeind]] [21:33]
labestiol ;;guide [21:33]
DBordello howdy Staatsfeind [21:34]
jcpham don't howdy that guy [21:35]
jcpham ;p [21:35]
Staatsfeind howdy jcpham [21:36]
jcpham I'm afraid if I respond my grammar will be bad and i'll get corrected ;p [21:36]
Staatsfeind “Howdy” is probably my favorite English-language greeting. :þ [21:36]
DBordello Is anybody around for an escrow? Compete for the highest rating, go! [21:37]
chmod755 howdy Staatsfeind [21:38]
jcpham i can do the escrow. is this Gamma's first trade? [21:39]
jcpham that's what i read on gribblewebs [21:39]
DBordello It is [21:40]
DBordello Nothing personal, but I have a higher rating than you, I am not sure having you escrow helps :) [21:40]
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Buglouse Familiar with GPG; when prompted for a overwrite path, I want to specify a default as an argument to gpg. [21:41]
jcpham k DBordello. makes sense [21:42]
MBS get free $5 amazon/paypal if you have a us number and iphone/android: www.clover.com/a?inv&t=al79p399six8 or http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/5366/cloveroo.png [21:42]
jcpham I didn't check [21:42]
MBS anyone interested in renting a http://kimsufi.ie dedicated server for bitcoins, for 5/12/15 BTC respecfully [21:42]
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MBS i only have 1 i use and its for my paycheck deposit [21:42]
MBS you can open new ones online, but main thing is that will take just as long to get money into that account usually [21:43]
GammaG ? excuse me? [21:43]
GammaG ah [21:43]
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MBS some allow funding from debit/credit cards though [21:43]
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foggyb can I be logged in from two different IP's with the same username> [21:43]
MBS like just made a USAA account, offered to let me fund from a mastercard (not sure if it would only work with a credit card as a cash advance or if a debit would have worked too) [21:44]
foggyb on IRC that is [21:44]
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MBS foggyb, you will need to run an IRC bouncer like ZNC to do that [21:48]
MBS http://wiki.znc.in/ZNC [21:48]
MBS pretty much you run that on a server, then just login to IRC via that server, and it stays connected all the time [21:48]
jcpham you could do it all old school with psybnc and freebsd [21:49]
Staatsfeind Well, not exactly. There are other ways. [21:49]
jcpham ooooh or netbsd [21:49]
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vragnaroda Like, for example, I just SSHed into this box. [21:49]
jcpham wham! [21:50]
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GammaG hey i am looking for someone to take my USD paypal funds so i can get BTC [21:50]
jcpham what happened to your mp? [21:51]
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GammaG i just drained it [21:51]
MBS :| [21:51]
jcpham darn [21:51]
GammaG i dont wanna have to get another [21:52]
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GammaG pay a $4 atm fee, then a 4.95 mp fee [21:52]
GammaG waste 10 bucks [21:52]
MBS why did you use it [21:52]
jcpham did you not trade in this channel and get a rating for it? [21:52]
Staatsfeind What the fuck? [21:52]
Staatsfeind $4 ATM fee? :o [21:52]
GammaG yea i'll be getting a rating with cory when he comes back [21:52]
DBordello Who did you just trade with? Did the trade go well? [21:52]
jcpham make sure people you trade with are rated and rate you [21:53]
Staatsfeind GammaG: If you pay $4 to use an ATM, get a better bank! [21:53]
GammaG its not my bank [21:53]
GammaG its a paypal card [21:53]
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GammaG mastercard paypal business debit [21:53]
MBS how many bitcoins did you need anyway [21:54]
jcpham Persoanlly, I'd wait on Cory to rate you, we are all suspicious of paypal and unrated users [21:54]
jcpham i'm certainly not implying anything. just a statement [21:54]
DBordello I am nervous about that transaction..... [21:54]
GammaG well i am not in a rush so i will wait for him to get back, because i did a good sized MP with him [21:54]
DBordello did that last MP transaction go well? [21:55]
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GammaG DBordello yes it did [21:55]
DBordello good, I am glad to hear that [21:55]
GammaG i got 19 btc, then i sent over MP, then got 39 btc [21:55]
GammaG i mean 29 [21:55]
MBS if i had more bitcoins, i would take clover payments http://www.clover.com/a?inv&t=al79p399six8 [21:55]
DBordello MBS, you and your stupid clover [21:56]
MBS :p [21:56]
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johnD__ hello can anyone give me some tips about how to cash bitcoins anonymously? [21:56]
GammaG i wish someone would take these 4870's i ahev for btc [21:56]
MBS johnD__, you mean sell them? [21:56]
johnD__ yes [21:56]
johnD__ and eventually getting cash [21:56]
GammaG but what am i sopose to ship and wait for u to get em to even see my btc.. [21:56]
jcpham johnD__ coinabul.com sells metal for bitcoin [21:56]
GammaG mehhh [21:56]
MBS would sort of need an address to ship to though :p [21:57]
johnD__ :) [21:57]
jcpham yes it isn't anonymous [21:57]
johnD__ are there any solutions for receiving the metal anonymously? [21:57]
MBS ship to my address :p [21:57]
GammaG i also have a gbit dedicated server in the UK i would sell for btc, like dirt cheap [21:57]
jcpham reshipping service [21:57]
MBS someone would still have his address though' [21:57]
jcpham possibly the site owner would work with you [21:58]
johnD__ :D [21:58]
MBS buy services for bitcoin? [21:58]
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DBordello Money Pak [21:58]
MBS not too many ways to keep it anonymous afterwards XD [21:58]
jcpham metal is the closest thin i know of [21:58]
jcpham or FTF transaction of cash [21:58]
MBS well i guess moneypak works, not completely anonymous though [21:58]
MBS depends on how anonymous you need [21:58]
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jcpham mtgox wire in offshore acct. [21:58]
DBordello plus greendot prepaid visa -> ATM [21:59]
GammaG i had a really nice guy on SR send me 22 BTC as a loan [21:59]
GammaG and today (1.3 weeks later) i sent him 25 btc [21:59]
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GammaG :) i feel so proud of myself [21:59]
johnD__ hmm [21:59]
johnD__ so if I could get the greendot card anonymously then I could just buy moneypacks with bitcoin right [21:59]
GammaG being honest actually feels great, i dunno how people live with thmselfs scamming for 1 transaction [22:00]
helo scam4life [22:00]
DBordello johnD__, yup [22:00]
MBS johnD__, well greendots require SSN to activate i think [22:00]
GammaG bad karma [22:00]
MBS would have to find someone to do that for you [22:00]
GammaG what goes around comes around [22:00]
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helo except when it doesn't [22:00]
btchero2 i think you can do 250 on a greendot card without using any info... but i am not sure I have never done it [22:00]
GammaG greendot im pretty sure under like 499 and below [22:01]
GammaG no social needed [22:01]
jcpham johnD__ why so anonymous [22:01]
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DBordello I think you can just buy it.... [22:01]
GammaG i've never needed to use my SS # with greendot or MP [22:01]
btchero2 If you do an awesome rate I will send you cash in the mail [22:01]
jcpham ^ [22:01]
btchero2 and won't tell [22:01]
johnD__ I have earned some money with affiliate programs but I have used techniques that might include copyright infringement problems [22:01]
johnD__ so now I am looking for a way to cash out from an anonymous alertpay account [22:02]
jcpham i love that [22:02]
btchero2 so you don't have bitcoins? [22:02]
johnD__ not yet [22:02]
jcpham "copyright infringement problems" [22:02]
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DBordello lol [22:02]
johnD__ :) [22:02]
DBordello do you have bitcoins? [22:02]
EasyAt Paypal got mad at me for depsoiting too many moneypaks in my bank account [22:03]
EasyAt damnit [22:03]
GammaG i wish i could find a better way to make bitcoins [22:03]
btchero2 EasyAt what happened [22:03]
GammaG i got 8 hours of free time a day for the interwebz [22:03]
johnD__ I dont have bitcoins yet but as I understand its not hard to buy with alertpay? [22:03]
EasyAt I was going otc stuff, and accepting moneypaks [22:03]
GammaG gotta be a way to make bitcoin besides mining with super expensive cards [22:03]
mircea_popescu how many did you do ? [22:03]
EasyAt I widthdrew maybe 2k from paypal over 2 months [22:03]
EasyAt They didnt lock me, just warned [22:04]
jcpham if pp shuts down my acct. they'll be stuck w/ a bill [22:04]
jcpham their loss [22:04]
EasyAt haha [22:04]
btchero2 if pp shuts me down I will cry [22:04]
magnetron how many money paks did you do needed they wanted you? [22:04]
btchero2 how do i get a mouse from hong kong for 1.50 shipped without paypal [22:04]
mircea_popescu btchero2 : use bitcoin ? :D [22:04]
EasyAt about 1750 in moneypack [22:05]
EasyAt paks* [22:05]
mircea_popescu ya but how many [22:05]
EasyAt Oh, maybe 6 [22:05]
mircea_popescu jeez. [22:05]
EasyAt I didn't know it mattered [22:05]
mircea_popescu what's the warning go like ? [22:05]
btchero2 i wonder if you spend a little bit on ebay everytime if it won't set their flags off? [22:06]
DBordello EasyAt, did you deposit then withdraw them? [22:06]
EasyAt Just that if I keep doing it I will be banned [22:06]
EasyAt DBordello: Yea, withing a day or two... i was stupid [22:06]
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DBordello EasyAt, ah [22:06]
DBordello I didn't know you could even do that [22:06]
EasyAt You can widthdraw immedietly [22:06]
DBordello what did they warn you of? [22:06]
EasyAt well after like 5 minutes when it clears [22:06]
DBordello ah [22:06]
EasyAt sec ill paste [22:07]
johnD__ does anyone know about any real world exchanges that take bitcoin and give you cash and wont ask you who you are? [22:07]
btchero2 Is it illegal to sell bitcoins for a moneypak and cash out via greendot? [22:07]
DBordello i thought you couldn't withdraw MP funds [22:07]
EasyAt no thats not the issue [22:07]
DBordello just send them [22:07]
EasyAt You can add them to a paypal account [22:07]
MBS EasyAt, another option is amex serve [22:07]
MBS they take moneypaks [22:07]
MBS and can withdraw t bank [22:07]
MBS http://serve.com [22:07]
* DBordello checks it out [22:07]
EasyAt http://pastebin.com/Mn6Y7B07 [22:07]
MBS also free $10 (maybe another $10 if that trivia game is still up) for signing up [22:07]
btchero2 johnD__, if you get bitcoins i will pay you cash in the mail [22:08]
btchero2 as long as the rate is good enough [22:08]
EasyAt MBS: the site is not working [22:08]
DBordello EasyAt, works for me [22:08]
MBS yeah its up for me [22:08]
EasyAt are you guys out of the US? [22:08]
MBS https://secure.serve.com/Partners/ESPN/Signup?rafoffer=ESPNRAF&signupoffer=SIGNUPESPN&solid=espnServeHP&intlink=us-serve-dtc-reg-main-20112 [22:09]
btchero2 So serve won't shut you down? [22:09]
DBordello Special Offer: Add cash to your Serve account with a MoneyPak and we'll cover the MoneyPak purchase fee for your first load*. [22:09]
MBS oh i think serve is US only [22:09]
DBordello ah [22:09]
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EasyAt Ah, now that works [22:09]
EasyAt ty [22:09]
DBordello yes, thank you [22:09]
johnD__ btchero2, how secure is it to send cash in the mail, I think there is a possibility it might get intercepted? [22:09]
DBordello Selling up to 100 BTC for MoneyPak [22:10]
EasyAt They don't get angry about moneypak straight to bank? [22:10]
btchero2 yes there is. [22:10]
btchero2 I would say priority shipping with tracking would be ok though [22:10]
btchero2 or i can send money order [22:10]
btchero2 or walmart gift cards [22:10]
btchero2 or whatever [22:10]
EasyAt btchero2: if you can go to walmart you can get a moneypak [22:10]
btchero2 yeah, but dude wants cash [22:11]
btchero2 anon [22:11]
btchero2 and doesn't want moneypaks [22:11]
EasyAt ah [22:11]
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GammaG arg i gotta wait for a my reviews to come in to get paypal 2 btc [22:12]
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GammaG but i guess i understand why, but argggg i needs my btc [22:13]
EasyAt 'My fiancé of 3 years dumped me with the explanation, "we go to Target WAY too much. Also, I don't love you."' [22:13]
btchero2 I don't understand why... If you just did the paypal txn it means nothing [22:14]
btchero2 doesn't mean anything for months [22:14]
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DBordello EasyAt, lol [22:14]
btchero2 EasyAt is that a joke or are you serious? [22:14]
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heisenberg Help [22:15]
heisenberg I need to buy bit coins but don't know how [22:15]
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nelisky heisenberg: and how will you pay for them? [22:16]
heisenberg Paypal (credit card) [22:16]
nelisky well, that's no easy task [22:16]
nelisky some people around here will do it for small amounts [22:16]
DBordello How much information is required for serve? [22:16]
btchero2 just sell meth on sr that is a good way to get bitcoins heisenberg [22:17]
heisenberg I just need 50 Bitcoins [22:17]
btchero2 I like the look of serve [22:17]
novusordo i doubt anyone would sell you 50 bitcoins over paypal [22:17]
chmod755 heisenberg: verified paypal? [22:17]
btchero2 I think i am going to try it [22:17]
btchero2 chmod755 verified doesn't mean non scammer [22:17]
chmod755 btchero2: i know [22:18]
heisenberg Yes [22:18]
heisenberg I am verified [22:18]
heisenberg I can either do 30 or 50. [22:18]
novusordo heisenberg: if you want to buy/sell in this channel, it'll be much easier if you get your gpg keys set up [22:19]
heisenberg I'm pretty new in this [22:19]
heisenberg Im not sure what you mean. [22:19]
EasyAt Sorry, had some work to do [22:19]
heisenberg Im just looking to buy 30-50 bit coins with paypal [22:19]
EasyAt btchero2: No, it was a response by someone to the worst reason they were broken up for [22:19]
btchero2 oh [22:20]
novusordo is the wiki down? [22:20]
heisenberg How do I buy the bit coins? [22:20]
btchero2 i can't use it [22:20]
novusordo heisenberg: this would be the link to the guide, but it seems to be down right now - http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc [22:21]
btchero2 get a moneypak would help heisenberg [22:21]
novusordo yeah, moneypak would be more likely to be accepted than paypal [22:21]
heisenberg Can I not send money directly from paypal? [22:21]
heisenberg Its a transfer from credit card [22:21]
btchero2 you can, but no one will accept [22:21]
EasyAt MBS: do you use this serve service? [22:21]
heisenberg Why will no one accept? [22:22]
novusordo heisenberg: it's too easy to do chargebacks with paypal, so generally people don't do large transactions with it [22:22]
btchero2 risk of chargeback [22:22]
copumpkin or even small transactions [22:22]
btchero2 lots of people come here with the sole intent of scamming us [22:22]
copumpkin since it's such a headache if you get even a small chargeback [22:22]
btchero2 i won't even do small txns [22:22]
btchero2 unless it is someone that is trusted [22:22]
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heisenberg I am defininitely not trying to scam, I am just trying to get 30-50 lol. How can I prove trust? [22:22]
novusordo https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:T5M8yKzXFxcJ:wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=ubuntu [22:23]
copumpkin heisenberg: all scammers say they aren't trying to scam :) [22:23]
novusordo try that link heisenberg ^^ [22:23]
novusordo for getting started on here [22:23]
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Raccoon PayPal doesn't exist. Not in this channel. Don't even pretend it exists. Lets talk about something else. [22:24]
heisenberg I am so confused haha [22:24]
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heisenberg ;;help buy [22:24]
btchero2 We all hate paypal and only use it between inner circles that you will never be a part of if you aren't registered/trusted [22:24]
Raccoon Open a Dwolla Account. [22:24]
heisenberg I have no money in my bank account. Thats why I have to use paypal, because my credit card is working [22:25]
EasyAt I am trying to scam [22:25]
jurov i was interested in dwolla too but it said "US-only" [22:25]
EasyAt can someone send me BTC for paypal plz [22:25]
Raccoon heisenberg: put money in your bank account. [22:25]
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novusordo heisenberg: try buying a moneypak with your credit card, people will accept that way easier than paypal [22:25]
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btchero2 you ever hear that sketch chris rock did about going to the atm at 3 in the morning [22:26]
heisenberg I mean, I can pay extra if someone will sell me 30 [22:26]
EasyAt What do most of you guys do with your moneypaks, if paypal won't let you widthdraw them [22:26]
btchero2 same situation here heisenberg [22:26]
chmod755 EasyAt: I'll give you 0 BTC for 50 USD via paypal, okay? [22:26]
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EasyAt chmod755: Expect a chargeback and a trip to small claims [22:26]
EasyAt chmod755: i mean sure [22:26]
heisenberg Haha what? [22:27]
* phraust has a paypal debit card. [22:27]
btchero2 heisenberg, whenever someone comes in asking for paypal we all pretend we are scammers [22:27]
chmod755 EasyAt: ok send to: nigeria419@mybitcoin.com [22:27]
heisenberg I can pay like $140 for 26 or something haha [22:28]
btchero2 lol [22:28]
EasyAt hehe [22:28]
EasyAt Let me go find my ssn, you might need that [22:28]
Staatsfeind 15:25 < jurov> i was interested in dwolla too but it said "US-only" ← All right, you lazy fucks, this is actually a legitimate reason. You trust PayPal with your money more than [22:28]
heisenberg huh? [22:28]
Staatsfeind Dwolla is not. [22:28]
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UndeadLord EasyAt: Don't forget a copy of your passport [22:28]
heisenberg I just need some bit coins hahaha [22:28]
DBordello ;;rate phraust 2 Sold BTC for $500 MP, he sent first [22:28]
Staatsfeind jurov: What country are you in? [22:29]
heisenberg US [22:29]
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phraust woohoo! [22:29]
EasyAt DBordello: do you put moneypaks into paypal? [22:29]
DBordello EasyAt, I just did [22:29]
DBordello I tried serve, it wouldn't take the number [22:29]
jurov Slovakia. I did some trades with SEPA, I am patient. [22:29]
heisenberg I don't have moneypaks or whatever. Can I buy one online? [22:29]
DBordello which made me nervous .... [22:29]
jurov I just reacted, you seem to send everyone to dwolla, so i was curious [22:29]
novusordo heisenberg: try a local rite-aid or gas station, they usually have them [22:30]
EasyAt It'll show up, I would just space the widthdraws out [22:30]
DBordello EasyAt, any advice on withdrawing it? [22:30]
EasyAt or maybe set up another paypal that you can send the money to as "Goods" [22:30]
btchero2 you need money to buy them though [22:30]
btchero2 he has no money [22:30]
btchero2 he wants to buy drugs with a cc while his bank account is empty [22:30]
EasyAt If you can wait I would do a second paypal and link it to an account [22:30]
chmod755 ;;action arrests heisenberg (#bitcoin-police-jail). Reason: untrusted user trying to buy Bitcoin with PayPal [22:31]
Staatsfeind jurov: Yeah, that's because people are saying stupid shit. Once you build up trust, PayPal will get easier, but it'll take a bit. SEPA's probably your best bet right now. [22:31]
EasyAt Send it over as goods or something [22:31]
chmod755 nah, gribble doesn't work here :( [22:31]
DBordello EasyAt, yeah, i might do that to my girlfriend [22:31]
btchero2 Staatsfeind, did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed? [22:31]
Staatsfeind heisenberg: If you're in the U.S., get your ass down to the closest drugstore and buy yourself a moneypak. [22:31]
heisenberg I don't know how this works. hahaha [22:31]
EasyAt But just $500 shouldn't matter [22:31]
EasyAt I did that a few times, it was when i widthdrew 1k in like 10 minutes after receiving a moneypak that I got the warning the next morning [22:32]
Staatsfeind btchero2: Yeah, I'm too damned cheerful, today. [22:32]
* EasyAt stupid [22:32]
DBordello EasyAt, gotcha [22:32]
* EasyAt EasyAt| [22:32]
EasyAt whoops [22:32]
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DBordello paypal made me verify some info when doing the greendot [22:33]
DBordello does that mean my limits are raised? [22:33]
EasyAt| Your widthdraw limit is raised from 500 i think [22:33]
EasyAt| Because I swear I always had a widthdraw limit of $500 a month... and now i dont [22:33]
heisenberg Is there any way I can get verified and send money from paypal without doing anything but that? [22:33]
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EasyAt| heisenberg: people will do small trades with you for paypal prolly [22:34]
EasyAt| expect to pay a premium [22:34]
Staatsfeind heisenberg: Is there any way i can grow gills? [22:34]
EasyAt| put some money in paypal, have an idea of what you want and come back... Someone will help you on a few im sure [22:34]
heisenberg I need 26 exactly [22:35]
chmod755 heisenberg: did you read what I told you privately? [22:35]
heisenberg I just saw [22:36]
Mqrius http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZIVmKOdrBk [22:36]
Staatsfeind .title [22:36]
markac Staatsfeind: Portal 2 - This Is Aperture - YouTube [22:36]
novusordo if you want a paypal verified account, just get a $25 prepaid debit card and enter that as info, you can use up the whole thing and just leave it on your account and it'll stay verified [22:38]
Staatsfeind PayPal verification doesn't affect risk much here. [22:39]
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novusordo it was mostly in reply to EasyAt's comment about the withdrawl limit, not trust [22:39]
novusordo paypal still sucks :P [22:39]
Staatsfeind That's an understatement. [22:40]
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DBordello Selling up to 25 BTC for MoneyPak [22:46]
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DBordello Buying BTC, up to $500 MP [22:52]
* DBordello covers both sides [22:52]
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GammaG oh cory where art thou [22:53]
DBordello GammaG, did you get a MP? [22:53]
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jcpham is it wierd if i insist on getting old heatsinks out old computers [23:04]
jcpham prior to trashing them? [23:04]
DBordello why? [23:04]
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jcpham i'm thinking maybe i'll tak them to the scrap metal ppace one day [23:05]
copumpkin is it something like this? http://www.acousticpc.com/images/noctua_nh_u12dx_xeon_cpu_cooler_dual_pic.jpg [23:05]
jcpham they are solid copper and aluminum [23:05]
jcpham no rip them out and throw them in a large box [23:06]
jcpham i have about 100 lbs now [23:06]
copumpkin http://www.techwarelabs.com/wp-content/gallery/thermaltake-spinq-vt/thumb.jpg [23:06]
copumpkin people come up with the most ridiculous heatsink [23:06]
copumpkin s [23:06]
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Mqrius It looks pretty though. But I'm happy with my massive block of scyte mugen 2 rev b. [23:08]
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DBordello Selling up to 25 BTC via MoneyPak. Buying BTC with up to $500 MP [23:09]
Mqrius You could buy from yourself! You'd lose on your margins though :/ [23:09]
sgornick #6607 SELL 2.22 BTC @ 5.4951 usd (PayPal USD. Some trust required. PM me on IRC.) [23:10]
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DBordello Mqrius, margins are steap [23:11]
DBordello steep* [23:11]
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Mqrius You know what, I'll sell 25 btc for you for $6, you can pay me with a moneypack, but keep it; I'm also buying 25 coins from you with moneypack for $5 per bitcoin. [23:12]
Mqrius You can pay me the difference in bitcoin [23:12]
Mqrius And yeah I know, margins are steep ;) [23:13]
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DBordello ouch [23:13]
DBordello I just lost $25 [23:13]
jcpham how so? [23:13]
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Frank90 Hello people, I have some Home Depot gift cards for sale. The price is 70% of their value, they can be used both online or in any Home Depot store. [23:16]
Frank90 Hello people, I have some Home Depot gift cards for sale. The price is 70% of their value, they can be used both online or in any Home Depot store. someone interested? :) [23:16]
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Frank90 Hello people, I have some Home Depot gift cards for sale. The price is 70% of their value, they can be used both online or in any Home Depot store. someone interested? :) [23:17]
jcpham patience? [23:17]
Graet yep, saw it first 2 times... [23:17]
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Frank90 sorry for double message. ' [23:18]
novusordo *triple [23:18]
Staatsfeind Frank90: I value them at 2‰ of their face value. I don't think you really mean value there. [23:18]
jcpham i could have used those 3 months ago [23:19]
Staatsfeind (Yes, 2‰, as in 0.1 × 2%. :þ) [23:19]
jcpham too bad the house is remodeled now [23:19]
Staatsfeind The symbol ‰ should be used more. ☺ [23:20]
Frank90 what you mean? 70% discount is already a more than decent discount. [23:20]
rawrmage ‰ ‰ ‰ [23:20]
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Frank90 because I dont have a lot of tradings over here I can agree to send first the card to someone and after get my btc. [23:21]
Staatsfeind Frank90: Value is subjective and what you said above is the price is 70% of their value (by which I believe you *meant* face value). That is *not* a 70% discount; that's 30%. [23:21]
Staatsfeind lrn2math [23:21]
Staatsfeind I'm sure with some patience you'll get a better offer, but they're not worth anything close to face value to me. [23:22]
Frank90 yes, you have right. actually the discount is 30% from their value. This means for a $100 card ( you can buy with this $100 in store) i require 70$ worth of btc. [23:22]
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GammaG not yet DBordello [23:23]
JohnD_ looking to buy bitcoin with alertpay [23:23]
MBS lol woops, just noticed my inspection sticker expires this month XD [23:23]
GammaG im still waiting for cory so i can get my good feedback [23:23]
JohnD_ are these kinds of transactions normal around here? [23:23]
GammaG i will prefer to use paypal DBordello because i lose $10 right away with MP [23:23]
GammaG damn atm fee and moneypack fee [23:24]
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Staatsfeind “You have right” doesn't work in English for that meaning; I think you mean “You are right” (and my offer stands at 2‰ face value, although I'm sure someone else will come along who'll pay more). [23:24]
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btchero2 you can buy moneypak with debit card no need for atm fee [23:24]
GammaG it says cash only [23:24]
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btchero2 Ive heard otherwise... but i have never done it [23:25]
GammaG i've asked, they only take cash :( [23:25]
Frank90 Staatsfeind: thanks for correcting me. [23:25]
Staatsfeind A lot of things that say “cash only” accept debit. The point of “cash only” *usually* is not-credit but different merchants wil have different rules. [23:26]
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phraust I've used my debit card for moneypak. [23:28]
btchero2 Ive heard of others also [23:29]
phraust But it was in walmart. dunno about other places. [23:29]
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Cory ;;rate GammaG 1 He bought bitcoins from me with a $130 MoneyPak. [23:46]
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DBordello he has been begging for that [23:47]
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Cory Heh, I saw. [23:50]
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Zommy Buying 15 BC via paypal. [23:56]
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