Forum logs for 30 Apr 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2000 @ 0.00184061 = 3.6812 BTC [+] {14}	[00:01]
decimation	mircea_popescu: so have you been poking around centos or scientific linux?	[00:03]
mircea_popescu	mnope	[00:03]
decimation	I assumed based on your epel comment	[00:03]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1000 @ 0.0016191 = 1.6191 BTC [-] {2}	[00:04]
mircea_popescu	ah, installed nginx, yeah	[00:04]
mircea_popescu	i guess this qualifies.	[00:04]
decimation	if you want something that can serve static pages https://www.unix4lyfe.org/darkhttpd/ < fits in head	[00:06]
assbot	darkhttpd ... ( http://bit.ly/1IptD4B )	[00:06]
mircea_popescu	nah, i run wordpress	[00:07]
decimation	I assume you saw http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/04/27/wordpress_zero_day_xss/	[00:08]
assbot	Comments considered harmful: WordPress web hijack bug revealed • The Register ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ipu13c )	[00:08]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-04-2015#1116111 :p	[00:10]
assbot	Logged on 29-04-2015 18:06:30; mircea_popescu: 2.x immune.	[00:10]
decimation	ah heh	[00:10]
mircea_popescu	not upgrading pays.	[00:12]
decimation	yes indeed. which is why most 'serious business' uses old redhat	[00:14]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 700 @ 0.0016191 = 1.1334 BTC [-]	[00:25]
decimation	lol some guy was reading #b-a and has an anti-tcp agenda http://notcp.io/	[00:26]
assbot	The NoTCP Manifesto ... ( http://bit.ly/1IpwvhS )	[00:26]
mircea_popescu	wait, node.js is performant ?!	[00:27]
mircea_popescu	what is this, the future ?	[00:27]
mircea_popescu	"Chukka-booted footsteps" ahaha ok.	[00:28]
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decimation	yeah I'm not sure if the guy is joking or not	[00:31]
mircea_popescu	hey various folks whose pgp keys i've signed at teh conference key signing party... you're supposed to also sign mine!	[00:38]
decimation	!up gabriel_laddel	[00:38]
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gabriel_laddel	thank you	[00:38]
gabriel_laddel	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-04-2015#1115832 << We're discussing the same thing. If the program has "marked" all instances of $WHATEVER I can trivally add "Would you like me to a) check all places where it's called and report what I can figure out about the context ? b) iterate you through all locations ? c) change it back ? d) run a trace see what happens ?" on top of it.	[00:38]
assbot	Logged on 29-04-2015 14:29:15; mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel "why are the holes not marked or filled?" << ftr this is not what i was contemplating. what I was contemplating is, why the fuck don't defaults pop up. bring back the fucking paperclip, put it the ONE place where it makes fucking sense. "hey john, I see you changed FuckOff() from bool to int. This function is called 82 places in 22 files. Would you like me to a) check a	[00:38]
gabriel_laddel	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-04-2015#1115836 << lol	[00:38]
assbot	Logged on 29-04-2015 14:31:02; Adlai: aha, the good old C-c C-w C-c	[00:38]
gabriel_laddel	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-04-2015#1115871 << If the "rules" of human language are formalized it becomes much easier to break them in interesting ways. One could use the output of a shannonizer to inform word choice for his story, enforcing that each word is followed by one of the top 10 least likely words in the whole of the language up to this point. I suspect that such a tale would be great fun to re	[00:38]
gabriel_laddel	ad, as most people would immediately recoil in horror, seeing something so very different what they're used to.	[00:38]
assbot	Logged on 29-04-2015 14:41:31; mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel "Why isn't there grammer/spellchecking for my comments? " << this i can readily answer. because I am what's called "a creator of language", which is to say one of those people who, through his usage, ENACTS the rules all amateur users of language MUST follow, as a mark of their linguistic inferiority. like fucking shakespeare.	[00:38]
gabriel_laddel	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-04-2015#1115889 << and I will point out that you're wrong. The simplicity of lisp vs. C is absolutely due to the inherrent properties of the respective artifacts. Seriously, MMM vs GC, parsing vs. not, no bignums vs. numerics - "abstractions push upward" (TM).	[00:38]
assbot	Logged on 29-04-2015 15:00:28; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115422 << this, i will point out, is in no way related to any inherent property of either (unless you mean lisp is inherently going to fail), but simply a function of context. had the linux kernel been implemented in sclb, and had the past 20 years been spent with scbl being "the cool language", you'd be having zhe pronouns and assorted	[00:38]
gabriel_laddel	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-04-2015#1116046 << http://gabriel-laddel.github.io	[00:39]
assbot	Logged on 29-04-2015 17:05:19; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115613 << dude srsly. GET A BLOG ALREADY.	[00:39]
assbot	SPOILER ALERT ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ipy0Nb )	[00:39]
gabriel_laddel	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-04-2015#1116069 << b/c it doesn't belong in a blog post.	[00:39]
assbot	Logged on 29-04-2015 17:12:02; mircea_popescu: and why the fuck am i referencing pastebins.	[00:39]
mircea_popescu	holy shit sherlock	[00:39]
decimation	heh	[00:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 620 @ 0.0016191 = 1.0038 BTC [-]	[00:39]
mircea_popescu	gabriel_laddel natural languages are not formalizable.	[00:39]
gabriel_laddel	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-04-2015#1116068 << see the lisp machine etc.	[00:40]
assbot	Logged on 29-04-2015 17:11:55; mircea_popescu: "The studious will note that this is a completely solved problem that no machine learning algorithm will be able to approximate anytime soon." i'm sorry...what ? solved how ?	[00:40]
gabriel_laddel	Erik Naggum disagreed	[00:40]
mircea_popescu	erik naggum was not a linguist.	[00:40]
gabriel_laddel	Lemme find the quote	[00:40]
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gabriel_laddel	apart from this, I have written Emacs Lisp functions to make a statement into a question and vice versa, to join and split sentences (not quite as trivial as it sounds), to upgrade from singular to plural and vice versa, to change the person from second to third and vice versa, et cetera. significant parts of grammar is the way it is to maintain correspondence between numbers and persons and tenses and such, and sin	[00:45]
gabriel_laddel	ce this is mostly redundant, it can be also automated. this is stuff that takes just a bit of time to do, but when a whole paragraph of text needs to be changed from second person singular or from third person singular to third person plural, it's nice to do that with a couple keystrokes. it's also nice to see that the pronouns are easily traceable to their origins, and don't get messed up in several layers of refer	[00:45]
gabriel_laddel	ences. if my code can't figure it out, chances are so won't anybody else, at least not easily.	[00:45]
gabriel_laddel	^ that is formalized enough for me.	[00:45]
mircea_popescu	"formalized enough" eh ?	[00:46]
gabriel_laddel	Would you agree that a shannonizer is a formalization?	[00:47]
mircea_popescu	i would agree that the counting horse is a remarkable horse,	[00:48]
mircea_popescu	but i won't agree he's a mathematician.	[00:48]
gabriel_laddel	wait what	[00:48]
mircea_popescu	a shannonizer is a formalisation, but not of natural language.	[00:48]
gabriel_laddel	I'll agree to that.	[00:49]
decimation	all models are wrong - some are useful	[00:49]
decimation	^George Box	[00:50]
mircea_popescu	if a purpose is stated.	[00:50]
gabriel_laddel	wtf I can't find the source for that quote anymore	[00:50]
gabriel_laddel	anyways - full quote is available here: http://paste.lisp.org/display/147662	[00:51]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1IpzB5E )	[00:51]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform http://www.samueljohnson.com/apocryph.html#20 << check it out btw.	[00:52]
assbot	The Samuel Johnson Sound Bite Page: Apocrypha ... ( http://bit.ly/1IpzFlM )	[00:52]
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mircea_popescu	"I have typed an average of 21.3 keystrokes per second" eh gtfo.	[00:54]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14150 @ 0.00029337 = 4.1512 BTC [-]	[00:59]
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mircea_popescu	"to maintain correspondence between numbers and persons and tenses and such, and since this is mostly redundant, it can be also automated. this is stuff that takes just a bit of time to do, but when a whole paragraph of text " << such nonsense.	[01:24]
mircea_popescu	a fine example of "too easy".	[01:25]
asciilifeform	happy hitler's-brains-on-the-floor day.	[01:43]
asciilifeform	(and su flag on reichstag night.)	[01:43]
asciilifeform	decimation> asciilifeform: more on ada: http://www.adacore.com/academia/universities/ < the list of us universities has a conspicuous absence of 'popular' tech schools << 'where used' is by far the least appealing aspect of ada. as for 'where taught', the answer is largely nowhere. the kind of thinking implied by ada is a -culture- that has to be imparted.	[01:45]
assbot	Universities \| Academia \| AdaCore ... ( http://bit.ly/1FzaAUO )	[01:45]
asciilifeform	ah, installed nginx, yeah << on top of apache again ?	[01:46]
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pete_dushenski	"For maximum security, our BlackBerry PGP encryption service utilizes AES 256 bit PGP encryption with a 4096 bit RSA key format." << also uses session keys, but these are presumably generated on the phone, so...	[10:09]
pete_dushenski	though the private master key is generated on a desktop.	[10:09]
mats	'Custom encrypted domains' what	[10:11]
mircea_popescu	i don't get it. which is it ?	[10:12]
mircea_popescu	do they do the "rsa encryption of an aes symmetric key" thing ?	[10:13]
pete_dushenski	i dun follow that part at all. the pgp/rsa makes sense but where aes comes in is anyone's guess.	[10:14]
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pete_dushenski	meh. not like i'm signing up anytime soon.	[10:15]
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jurov	iirc pgp/rsa is computationally expensive, so it's only used to establish rsa keys	[10:16]
jurov	ssh does it same way	[10:16]
jurov	*establish aes keys	[10:17]
mircea_popescu	jurov gpg does the same thing, yeah, but then again that was the 80s.	[10:32]
mircea_popescu	funny how moore law is always there to justify doing something stupid, never to justify doing things like "rsa all the way - we can afford it now"	[10:32]
Pierre_Rochard	unrelated: http://boingboing.net/2015/04/17/why-is-your-millenial-crying.html	[10:36]
assbot	Why is your millenial crying? A guide for parents and other concerned parties, by Gemma Correll. - Boing Boing ... ( http://bit.ly/1JDhAlJ )	[10:36]
jurov	in this case it's not moore's law but bandwidth. you can't have megabytes/second with rsa, or if you do, battery dies	[10:41]
mircea_popescu	and in the lulz of today, http://dpaste.com/0BSP2VK	[10:44]
assbot	dpaste: 0BSP2VK ... ( http://bit.ly/1JDjQJV )	[10:44]
mircea_popescu	jurov how does a blackberry send megabytes/second ?	[10:44]
jurov	with 3G/4G modem?	[10:46]
mircea_popescu	so let me get this straight.	[10:46]
mircea_popescu	best secretary i eve rhad did 82 wpm.	[10:46]
mircea_popescu	naggum, through the magic of shoving lisp up his ass, types 180wpm	[10:46]
mircea_popescu	but obama and the rest of the blackberry users type... 500k wpm ?	[10:46]
jurov	butbutbutmultimedia!	[10:47]
mircea_popescu	on that litthe shitty keyboard ?	[10:47]
mircea_popescu	o, you need to encrypt teh multishittia, yeh, sure.	[10:47]
mircea_popescu	use AES FOR THAT!	[10:47]
jurov	well, you live on the sane planet where people send only typed text by email and other things by other channels	[10:49]
mircea_popescu	there is such a thing as mime	[10:50]
jurov	and? so the optimal thing would be to parse the email and encrypt some parts by rsa and some by aes or what?	[10:52]
mircea_popescu	iirc blackberry was positioning itself as "text only. for important folk".	[10:53]
jurov	was	[10:53]
mircea_popescu	anyway, optimal thing would be user specified, and full rsa option.	[10:53]
jurov	explain that as an admin to your CEO what that stuff means and why	[10:54]
mircea_popescu	eh, fire the ceo.	[10:54]
jurov	...	[10:54]
jurov	one of my first job as admin were email servers. and from the beginning it was like "plz to raise limit on attachments" "plz why the email did not arrive yet" "plz why is the internet slow cant you, you know set some priorities for traffic"	[10:56]
jurov	now go explain encryption options	[10:57]
mircea_popescu	"rsa. use for text. rsa/aes. use for anything that's not text."	[10:58]
mircea_popescu	http://www.dailydot.com/politics/harvard-protest-primal-scream-run/ << where black lives that matter meet white cocks that are free!	[10:59]
assbot	Harvard students protesting police brutality clash with naked runners ... ( http://bit.ly/1JDngw3 )	[10:59]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-04-2015#1116627 << i didn't actually run it, just, got curious as to what exactly fails to work.	[11:00]
assbot	Logged on 30-04-2015 04:41:10; asciilifeform: ah, installed nginx, yeah << on top of apache again ?	[11:00]
Pierre_Rochard	“For people to say black lives matter, and for the crowd to shout back ‘U.S.A.,’ which is upholding a system that is oppressing black people, I think that that is problematic,”	[11:02]
Pierre_Rochard	“problematic” is my favorite SJW word	[11:03]
mircea_popescu	direct soviet translation.	[11:03]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-04-2015#1116690 << good for him.	[11:06]
assbot	Logged on 30-04-2015 13:00:33; pete_dushenski: apparently he has some large contracts already, something in the order of $6mn per year and no employees.	[11:06]
mats	sounds like an excellent scam	[11:07]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14000 @ 0.00028479 = 3.9871 BTC [-]	[11:07]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2012/desteapta-te-n-pula-mea-de-distractie/ << i might have found the tensest thing i wrote on trilema. wishing goodluck to anyone who's going to write a program to tokenize this text.	[11:08]
assbot	Desteapta-te-n pula mea de distractie on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JDq78i )	[11:08]
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pete_dushenski	mircea_popescu: the impressive and simultaneously worrying aspect of the bb-pgp biz is that the owner was a former tradesman who apparently thought to himself "hey, you know what the market needs, properly encrypted messaging!"	[11:15]
scoopbot_revived	News! Flirting with the prettiest girl in school. URL: http://www.contravex.com/2015/04/30/flirting-with-the-prettiest-girl-in-school/	[11:15]
assbot	Flirting with the prettiest girl in school. \| Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1JDsibR )	[11:15]
mircea_popescu	pete_dushenski what trade ?	[11:16]
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pete_dushenski	i want to say... plumbing. but i'll confirm. i know someone who knows him.	[11:16]
mircea_popescu	so have him drop by	[11:16]
mircea_popescu	"This, mystical domination, is easily the prettiest girl in school. She’s the most unattainable, the most lust-worthy, the most drool-inducing" << you know what veblen goods are ?	[11:17]
pete_dushenski	... i do not.	[11:18]
mircea_popescu	because that's what #5 does, practically : it offers a model to explain and understand the otherwise insane, and otherwise never explain, luxury behaviour.	[11:18]
mircea_popescu	that it explains it does NOT reduce the insanity of it however.	[11:18]
mircea_popescu	veblen goods are goods which exhibit reverse price relation (demand increases as price increases, as opposed to how it normally goes).	[11:18]
pete_dushenski	agreed about the insanity of pursuing #5, no matter how useful of a model its pursuit may prove in hindsight.	[11:20]
mircea_popescu	right, just because prayer worked in the past is no reason to pray.	[11:21]
pete_dushenski	ah so veblen goods would be like that dentist's services i was mentioning the other day.	[11:21]
pete_dushenski	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=27-04-2015#1113010	[11:21]
assbot	Logged on 27-04-2015 16:32:38; pete_dushenski: like the dentist who's busy when priced competitively, wants to be less busy, jacks up his prices to the highest in town, and then has his doors beaten down with customers like never before.	[11:21]
pete_dushenski	re: prayer, not like i'm going to go eat a loaf of bread now either just because a pizza pinged off my immunoarmour	[11:22]
mircea_popescu	the thng with allergies, and especiaslly in young people, is that they do go away.	[11:23]
mircea_popescu	that's treatment : remove the allergen, give it a few years, try a minute dose.	[11:23]
pete_dushenski	well the treatment seems to be working!	[11:24]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.0002873 = 2.126 BTC [+]	[11:24]
pete_dushenski	i tried a corona a few months, which are supposedly as low on the gluten scale as they come for normal beers, and i puked my guts out.	[11:25]
mircea_popescu	(they go away for the same reason vaccine-acquired immunity goes away, ftr)	[11:25]
pete_dushenski	so something's improved since then	[11:25]
mircea_popescu	great dress, great hooters. great hooters, great dress. http://41.media.tumblr.com/298434f59991ef25c4bf2b1f7d4c9ba7/tumblr_n4srktRyUd1txkuq7o1_1280.jpg	[11:26]
mircea_popescu	the inseparable!	[11:26]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1JDvjZW )	[11:26]
pete_dushenski	the memory b-cells don't last forever.	[11:26]
mircea_popescu	"When To Tell A Guy You Are Transgender by Whitey Niggerson -	[12:00]
mircea_popescu	>After first date and over the phone.	[12:00]
mircea_popescu	I agree. If you tell them upfront, they'll be weirded out. If you tell them in person, they might try to physically hurt you."	[12:00]
mircea_popescu	clearly, there's nothing wrong with this. everyone (else) is just mean evil and weird.	[12:00]
ben_vulpes	pete_dushenski: plz foar to nuke gravatar	[12:02]
pete_dushenski	ben_vulpes: beleeting your e-mail did the trick.	[12:03]
ben_vulpes	pahahaha yeah okay i'll just ask you to do that every time i comment on contravex	[12:04]
pete_dushenski	or just you bigben@isbig.com or something	[12:04]
mircea_popescu	since somehow scoopbot missed http://trilema.com/2015/the-museum-of-the-national-bank-of-argentina/ (hey williamdunne how's that work ?), dedicating it to nubbins` an' asciilifeform by hand.	[12:04]
assbot	The museum of the National Bank of Argentina on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1EuZzBy )	[12:04]
pete_dushenski	mebbe scoopy no like photodump ?	[12:06]
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williamdunne	mircea_popescu: Scoop was down for a while, I committed an upgrade too early	[12:07]
mircea_popescu	does it keep a list of what it last posted so when it comes back up it can see if there's anything new ?	[12:08]
williamdunne	Yes but its not persistant	[12:08]
williamdunne	Thats one of the upgrades I need to make	[12:09]
mircea_popescu	so put it in a file or something yeah	[12:09]
ben_vulpes	> committed an upgrade << heh	[12:09]
ben_vulpes	young man, you have committed an outrageous upgrade for the most serene republic!	[12:09]
ben_vulpes	your reward is more demands!	[12:09]
mircea_popescu	:D	[12:09]
williamdunne	mircea_popescu: Basically	[12:10]
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mircea_popescu	mike_c svg fix confirmed!	[12:11]
mike_c	great	[12:11]
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mod6	Well, the lordship updates seem to be in place nicely.	[12:15]
mod6	:]	[12:15]
mircea_popescu	mike_c q : how hard would it be to enforce fixed placement on the inner circle ? i dunno how they're placed now, but how about just divide 2pi to however many people and each gets that much sector	[12:16]
mircea_popescu	as opposed to now where 1.05-1.1 is five people from cazalla to mats.	[12:17]
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mircea_popescu	hm, that might not be so clever, ends up crunching the lines instead of crunching the nodes by outside exposure.	[12:19]
mircea_popescu	mike_c nevermind, it's correct as it is.	[12:19]
mod6	I love this chart as well; are there any plans to make the name's in the graph link to the corresponding page for that user/keyid?	[12:20]
mike_c	mod6: maybe yes, I'm exploring that.	[12:21]
mod6	werd	[12:21]
mod6	Sorry, I don't wanna make more work for ya. It's p. awesome as is.	[12:21]
mike_c	not at all, suggestions and feedback are welcome	[12:21]
mod6	sweet, the sorting of ratings data looks great	[12:24]
mod6	got a link to phuctor too. o/	[12:25]
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mod6	i just realized i can zoom out on this... looking more and more areodynamic every day.	[12:28]
mod6	*aerodynamic	[12:29]
mod6	haha re: "assorted domestic animals"	[12:30]
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mircea_popescu	it's like 4k by 4k px naturally.	[12:35]
bagels7	As someone who is transgender I stay away from men in general. I make men angry that would rather kill me than to deal with their faggot insecurity	[12:35]
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mircea_popescu	how do you know it's faggot insecurity ?	[12:43]
lobbes	I stay away from men in general. << you spend time in this channel though. About 95% men from what I guess	[12:44]
mircea_popescu	incidentally, the original (mostly politically driven) explanation for violence against homosexuals - some sort of "homophobia" suffers a lot seeing how ALL SORTS of other sexual behaviours elicit the same violent response. such as transsexualism, or pedophilia.	[12:45]
mircea_popescu	obviously sexual normativity is enforced on some sort of level irrespectively of the type.	[12:46]
mircea_popescu	while it's true that it probably shares that source with all sorts of nuttery (religious fervor, for instance), i very much doubt the actual motivator is what's proposed, ie, "dude is secretly gay and fighting it overtly"	[12:47]
mircea_popescu	or else why do [mostly old women] go to church ? because they're affraid they're secretly god ?	[12:48]
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williamdunne	Isn't violence against transsexualism also generally considered homophobia, or at least some sort of xenophobia	[12:57]
lobbes	probably lumped under 'hate crimes'	[13:01]
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bagels7	[11:38] <+mircea_popescu> how do you know it's faggot insecurity ? << When I am waiting at a bus stop at 2 in the morning and a guy walks by and pretends to be waiting for the bus as an excuse to talk to me while I am merely being polite then after 15 minutes has the nerve to tell me that I deceived him when he was only being nice to get laid	[13:14]
mircea_popescu	williamdunne by now they've completely lost any sort of relation between words. it's just... word word word word.	[13:15]
mircea_popescu	bagels7 well... there's a lot of nuts out there.	[13:15]
bagels7	mad at himself because he couldnt tell what I was	[13:15]
lobbes	bagels7, that is ultimately his problem though, no? Why change your lifestyle based on others?	[13:16]
lobbes	in terms of avoiding people	[13:16]
bagels7	where as a man that was secure could admit that a trans woman is hot despite not wanting to sleep with her	[13:16]
mircea_popescu	lobbes let me tell you why. because if servers introduce a new response code, you're stuck either making your browser aware of it, or else put up with the constant bitching.	[13:16]
bagels7	I don't see how I changed my lifestyle lobbes	[13:17]
mircea_popescu	which is why standards committees even exist : because in any interconnected system, you're constantly stuck with http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115921	[13:17]
assbot	Logged on 29-04-2015 15:11:30; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu forgot e) sane person adds kludge to enable some semblance of civilization to function, creating schizoid split and opening would that bleeds complexity	[13:17]
mircea_popescu	and this is why the traditional statement of the objection among the wrong side of kink high is "i don't want them imposing their stuff on me".	[13:17]
bagels7	"sexual normativity" just comes of as heterosexual / vanilla propaganda	[13:18]
mircea_popescu	obviously the correct reaction would just be what i did on the meat list, ie, group all weird under a single "Weird" heading. but then obviously this irks the delusions of individuality of the individual weird involved, so there's that line of bitching.	[13:18]
mircea_popescu	anyway, that's the broad conflict. "being special" having been promulgated as a social good, and smashing the classification being a bona fide way to manufacture specialness, you now have the conflict of the boring who aspire to hack their way to attention vs the people who don't care about them and wish to remain able to not care about them.	[13:22]
mats	;;isup nosuchlabs.com	[13:22]
gribble	nosuchlabs.com is up	[13:22]
mircea_popescu	it's irresolvable, for as long as a) "being special" is valued formally rather than substantially, and b) people get to make choice on the mere grounds of existing.	[13:22]
mircea_popescu	the good news being that neither a or b are actual things, or have any sort of hope of long term survival. just the froth of our days, soon to be gone back into the darkness that spawned them.	[13:23]
mircea_popescu	mats it recently changed ip, you seeing 195.211.154.159 ?	[13:24]
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ascii_field	mircea_popescu: The museum of the National Bank of Argentina << mega-article.	[13:26]
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ascii_field	every country should have an exhibit of its 'zimbabwean' currencies	[13:26]
mircea_popescu	well not many countries have this much experience with it.	[13:27]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: the gold balance suggests that they had something like engl. 'trial of the pyx'. did they ?	[13:27]
mircea_popescu	i think there are some such, mostly with confederate dollars, in the us	[13:27]
mats	mircea_popescu: nope	[13:27]
mircea_popescu	yes.	[13:27]
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ascii_field	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-04-2015#1116840 << not only up, but running on spiffy new box supplied by mircea_popescu	[13:30]
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mats	http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/01/us/report-says-american-psychological-association-collaborated-on-torture-justification.html	[13:32]
assbot	Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1HUKR9l )	[13:33]
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lobbes	'The Bush administration relied more heavily on psychologists than psychiatrists or other health professionals to monitor many interrogations'	[13:44]
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ascii_field	https://sks-keyservers.net/status/key_development.php << check out the spikes.	[13:54]
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ascii_field	spamatronic ?	[13:54]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu ^	[13:55]
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mod6	Lady quasi-butt, depicted with all the skill and guile of somebody that's never seen one. << lol	[14:39]
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mod6	<+ascii_field> every country should have an exhibit of its 'zimbabwean' currencies << agreed.	[14:45]
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mod6	mircea_popescu: lot of nice pics in there thx!	[14:52]
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mircea_popescu	ascii_field i think it's because for a while they added new keys in batches ?	[15:02]
mircea_popescu	and re the pyx thing : argentina had a very aspirational relationship with england. kinda why the faulkland war was such a big deal, sort-of like rambunctious kid going after dad, in a sense.	[15:04]
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mircea_popescu	http://blog.sumptuouscapital.com/2014/07/how-microsoft-once-again-demonstrates-not-caring-about-security/ << from the lulz department	[15:06]
assbot	Sumptuous Capital: Blog » Blog Archive » How Microsoft once again demonstrates not caring about security ... ( http://bit.ly/1PaRwwK )	[15:06]
mircea_popescu	"To add insult to injury, despite the emails containing references to the aforementioned website and key, the following Microsoft announcements on July 10 and 11 were actually signed by the key 0xF0B7406D which is not referenced as a key used for current Microsoft announcements. This key actually does contain a small number of signatures from external users, but as with 0xA92965F2 none from any Microsoft employee. As t	[15:06]
mircea_popescu	o whether the key is authentic your guess is still as good as mine."	[15:06]
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trinque	mircea_popescu: ran into your hierarchy of needs article by way of pete. interesting to note that at the top of maslow's was this vaguely communist "self transcendence" idea, whereas at the top of yours, the man's concept of self seems to engulf others.	[15:26]
mircea_popescu	entierly unsurprising huh.	[15:26]
trinque	what struck me is how on-point maslow's propaganda is, the exact opposite of what it should be, not some arbitrary other thing	[15:27]
trinque	yeah, not at all suprising	[15:27]
mircea_popescu	right.	[15:27]
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jurov	so must have highligh off :D	[17:18]
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WolfGoethe	anyone think bitcoin peer to peer trading has alot of room for growth?	[17:22]
trinque	WolfGoethe: seems you do, so how?	[17:29]
jurov	WolfGoethe for me it's much better to trade on davout's exchange	[17:29]
WolfGoethe	davouts ? url ?	[17:29]
jurov	paymium.com	[17:29]
WolfGoethe	for example. taking localbitcoin.com to the next level. like grubhub for money	[17:30]
jurov	i'm not very keen on exchanging bitcoins on streets with anyone	[17:30]
jurov	and exposing my personal data/location to snatchers	[17:30]
trinque	WolfGoethe: what would the next level be?	[17:31]
WolfGoethe	proper peer to peer is online only. using bitcoin as the lubricant between fiancial instruments like bank deposits, wire, paypal my cash, prepaid cards, western union , domestic intnational methods etc.. and all currencies	[17:32]
WolfGoethe	an escrow service dressed up for the mainstream so people can hustle with their financial tools and make money trading bitcoins etc..	[17:32]
jurov	that usually makes the second problem worse	[17:32]
WolfGoethe	not really. i do it pretty anon right now... as opposed to coinbase and circle who know everything about me, other traders don;t care	[17:33]
WolfGoethe	i stay anon	[17:33]
WolfGoethe	should give folks the option to verify if they really want to for trust's sake etc.. i am sure pro traders won't mind	[17:33]
WolfGoethe	guess no one here is into that tho	[17:34]
trinque	you have to clearly define your proposal before anyone can be "into it"	[17:34]
jurov	WolfGoethe how do you decide if counterparty is legit?	[17:34]
WolfGoethe	reputation system is key	[17:35]
WolfGoethe	one based on positive volume and not negative. just like ebay	[17:36]
WolfGoethe	such a market should take care to put out video guides for each payment method trade	[17:36]
WolfGoethe	essentially crowd sourcing the swift network to the people. let them be the on and off ramps	[17:36]
WolfGoethe	my bros r working on such a project and I have really been thinking about it	[17:37]
trinque	reputation system should be distinct from any particular application	[17:37]
trinque	this is why we have the WoT	[17:37]
WolfGoethe	trinque that's not realsitic, decentralizing things like that is another huge project, cannot mvp such a thing. ebay has their own internal system for 20 years, works	[17:37]
jurov	it's completely unrealistic or just huge? can't be both	[17:39]
trinque	this design-by-condescension thing isn't something I get behind; that "the people" can't understand a WoT... who cares	[17:39]
trinque	either they can and therefore could use one distinct from an applcation, or they can't and neither works	[17:40]
trinque	this pressuposes that you want everyone at the table, which I don't.	[17:40]
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mircea_popescu	WolfGoethe it's kinda funny that someone feels compelled to pitch this sort of retardation here about every quarter.	[17:50]
mircea_popescu	in any case, a) ebay hasn't been around for 20 years, b) 20 years is only a long time because you're too young to be "thinking about things" and c) the notion that ebay's abomination works... AAA plus would do thinks again.	[17:51]
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*	ascii_field using ebay for 17 yrs now	[17:54]
ascii_field	before that - as a boy - was buying/selling junk on usenet	[17:54]
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ascii_field	ebay was an improvement on the latter.	[17:54]
mircea_popescu	a webification in any case. aol-for-usenet-trades.	[17:55]
mircea_popescu	afaik they only got out of the mtgox business ("collectibles") cca 2005 or someshit.	[17:55]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: the payment thing was the mega-feature	[17:55]
ascii_field	not having to go to shops, get 'money orders' cut, and have some semblance of insurance - appealed to people	[17:55]
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*	ascii_field only ever used it for (usually, rare) electronics	[17:56]
mircea_popescu	i can see it.	[17:56]
ascii_field	ebay works well for getting 'golden toilets' for their actual market price vs the usg tentacular price	[17:57]
ascii_field	e.g., lightly used 'eizo' lcd for 500 instead of 1500	[17:57]
ascii_field	(usd)	[17:57]
ascii_field	virtually all of my hardware was purchased through ebay.	[17:58]
ascii_field	more or less a total monopoly with respect to what i use it for.	[17:59]
mircea_popescu	speaking of useless "platform"...	[18:01]
mircea_popescu	;;later tell mike_c yo, want a fiverr acct ? prolly got a coupla hundred bucks in it.	[18:01]
gribble	The operation succeeded.	[18:01]
mircea_popescu	shit's more expensive to use than heroin.	[18:01]
ascii_field	incidentally, this is why i hoard hardware - because supply chain is so hit-and-miss	[18:03]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24523 @ 0.00026509 = 6.5008 BTC [+]	[18:03]
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chetty	the issue with ebay,paypal etc. is they can and do close and freeze accounts anytime they feel like it	[18:05]
chetty	much like banks these days :P	[18:05]
ascii_field	chetty: this typically happens only to interesting people.	[18:06]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68200 @ 0.00027478 = 18.74 BTC [+] {2}	[18:06]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field similarly, the "reputation system" works perfectly for anyone not using it.	[18:07]
ascii_field	the 'buy and sell only rare things' heuristic - perhaps accidentally - more or less eliminates scammers, in my experience	[18:08]
ascii_field	esp. when the rare things in question are not 'collectible' idiocies but obscure components	[18:09]
ascii_field	essentially, market 'too small to scam'	[18:09]
mircea_popescu	i can see it.	[18:10]
ascii_field	from my point of view, the whole rest of ebay is dross	[18:10]
mircea_popescu	which is why from my point of view the whole thing is dross. i don't buy the stuff you're talking about and why wouldn't i want to be in a shop.	[18:11]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: afaik you do buy it (pre-08 pc parts, etc) but through meatwot suppliers	[18:12]
mircea_popescu	it all flows from the whole "we can't ~private~ message if we don't have a private relationship" thing. da fuck would i be doing on "online marketplace", dunno anyone there.	[18:13]
ascii_field	but, for example, ebay may well become the only practical source for amd cpu where i live, once amd finally sinks	[18:13]
ascii_field	recall my experience trying to buy items on otc ?	[18:13]
mircea_popescu	amusingly : the normal cellphone "sunk". in the us. it's amply abundant and vastlyt supplied in the real world tho.	[18:14]
ascii_field	there is not sufficient 'mass' there for the kind of things i buy.	[18:14]
mircea_popescu	samsung makes some pretty excellent ones, recent model too	[18:14]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: they are not entirely unobtainable in usa. just, again, have to buy online.	[18:14]
ascii_field	the shops only supply items 'for the cattle' - that is, most common-as-dirt and aggressively spamvertized	[18:15]
mircea_popescu	jit = shit.	[18:15]
ascii_field	aha.	[18:16]
ascii_field	virtually all of my tools, incidentally, come from ebay and for most of my life i could not have obtained them anywhere else.	[18:17]
ascii_field	(by 'from ebay' meaning, of course, brokered by ebay.)	[18:17]
mircea_popescu	or properly said, Жит = Шит.	[18:18]
ascii_field	l0lwut	[18:18]
mircea_popescu	:D	[18:18]
mircea_popescu	eggog!	[18:18]
ascii_field	my fave abuse: самшит (Buxus sempervirens) ~= 'someshit'	[18:19]
jurov	what's jit? just in time?	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	yeah	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field in spanish, "el boj comun".	[18:20]
ascii_field	aha it	[18:20]
mod6	i think the only thing I've ever gotten off ebay was an UltraSPARC II box	[18:21]
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*	jurov is ebay virgin	[18:24]
asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[18:24]
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ascii_field	http://www.loper-os.org/vintage/paralleleye/eye.html << example of item i bought on ebay. where the fuck else is it even physically possible to get one of these? sotheby's? it took 5+ yrs of searching, too	[18:26]
assbot	Parallel Port Interface to the Private Eye P4 Head-Mounted Display ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q3X5zq )	[18:26]
ascii_field	(subject being the display, not the plug)	[18:26]
ascii_field	or this: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1066	[18:27]
assbot	Loper OS » MicroWriter Redux. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q3Xdiv )	[18:27]
mircea_popescu	and now we understand alf's real tether to the mordor lands.	[18:28]
mircea_popescu	he needs omidyar.	[18:28]
ascii_field	l0l not like it doesn't work in mongolia	[18:28]
ascii_field	i even bought items from ru, they came in wooden crates	[18:28]
mircea_popescu	it works FROM mongolia.	[18:29]
mircea_popescu	not TO.	[18:29]
mod6	haha. wow, did you ever actually try to get used to using that alf?	[18:29]
ascii_field	mod6: using what	[18:29]
jurov	yea, nobody ships to mongolia	[18:29]
BingoBoingo	it works FROM mongolia. << I've had to use my USian powers to ask sellers questions potential buyers could not ask because they were outside USia	[18:29]
*	ascii_field saw a 747 marked 'ups' in b-ar airport. so perhaps even there.	[18:30]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12393 @ 0.00026411 = 3.2731 BTC [-]	[18:30]
mircea_popescu	by the way, lemme recount the fourth crusade for the benefit of the awareness-raising crowd-sourced crowd.	[18:30]
mod6	The "Private Eye"?	[18:30]
jurov	ascii_field: UPS ships everywere, but the vendors don't want to	[18:30]
ascii_field	jurov: most vendors will work with you if you're willing to pay the actual cost	[18:31]
ascii_field	i certainly do	[18:31]
mod6	the thing is pretty neat	[18:33]
ascii_field	as far as i'm concerned, historically, ebay is just this gizmo that shaves a zero off the price of the costliest things i buy. so i was never moved to care whether it is run by hitler or fueled with baby seal juice etc.	[18:34]
chetty	UPS ships to very happy customs agents in many places	[18:34]
ascii_field	hence the pogo suitcase, aha	[18:35]
ascii_field	i still don't understand why molestation in the post but not in the airport	[18:35]
ascii_field	why is one plundered and the other spared	[18:35]
chetty	lazy	[18:35]
ascii_field	but in the post - not lazy ?	[18:35]
ascii_field	where ups plane unloads - not lazy? but where human plane - lazy ?	[18:36]
ascii_field	how does this work	[18:36]
mod6	To read about all those other people you’ve got to buy the Professional version or even the Enterprise Edition. << lol	[18:36]
chetty	walking out of work with a box or two is a lot easier than a yard of paperwork in an airport	[18:36]
chetty	and you dont even have to process a box you never saw :P	[18:37]
jurov	i have long time ago won an ipod mini from ibm. ofc they sent it by post and it was clear case for customs how much such ipod costs and asked a tax	[18:38]
jurov	if i imported it on my bosy, what are they to do?	[18:38]
jurov	*body	[18:38]
mircea_popescu	chetty> UPS ships to very happy customs agents in many places << heh very much that	[18:39]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field you do not understand contemporary "man"	[18:39]
mircea_popescu	he's a thief, but not a robber.	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	he's an onanist, not a rapist.	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	he likes children, not women. pictures, not meat.	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	words, not things. certificates, not knowledge.	[18:40]
ascii_field	in other words lazy ?	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	it's a meta problem.	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	no, in other words mentally ill.	[18:40]
ascii_field	laziness or cowardice - or both ?	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	no, simple insanity.	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	and this is set to aggravate, by the way. physical presence becoming rarer and rarer and expensiver and expensiver, the necessary result of the interplay of its rarity with the above mental condition is that	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	well... in effect we'll all get super powers. like literal gods of mythology. "if im here everything works"	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	like the keeper of a bunch of slaves.	[18:42]
*	ascii_field is a bit confused here	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	say on an ancient galley.	[18:42]
ascii_field	physical presence expensive ?	[18:42]
ascii_field	how/why?	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	not having to go to shops <<<	[18:43]
mircea_popescu	what is that ? go queue at the dmv. why not ?	[18:43]
ascii_field	going to a shop merely to get a piece of paper is dumb, period	[18:43]
ascii_field	i no longer have to queue at 'dmv' either	[18:43]
ascii_field	(driver license sent in the post)	[18:43]
mircea_popescu	"my being here is more expensive than the whole fucking shop would cost to build"	[18:43]
*	ascii_field doesn't (as far as knows) have super power. possibly one has to be mircea_popescu weight class to notice this effect.	[18:45]
mircea_popescu	give it time.	[18:47]
mircea_popescu	and for the promised fourth crusade story :	[18:47]
mircea_popescu	so, I. a bunch of militarily powerful, intellectually naive westerners made an army to go beat up the muslims and take jerusalem.	[18:47]
mircea_popescu	II.a. random byzantine (militarily worthless, intellectually overpowering) entity convinces them to help him "recover" his "stolen" throne, as if the byzantines ever did anything else or anyone had a valid claim, or the possibility of a valid claim even existed in their world.	[18:47]
mircea_popescu	II.b. and further promised them the "pearl in heavens", a very classical device in greek gay drama (since at least the days of darius, this empty promises as a path to military glory. the greeks invented "fake it till you make it")	[18:47]
mircea_popescu	III. they take adrianople, and their presence alters "reality" as the greeks perceive it. so their guy is named co-emperor.	[18:47]
mircea_popescu	IV. the "crowdsource" revolts. this alters "reality" once more, their guy is promptly poisoned.	[18:47]
mircea_popescu	V. they decide to conquer the fucking city. because by now they've got an inkling of the pure filth the greeks are. so they do, and burn it, and cauterize the place.	[18:47]
mircea_popescu	moral : democracy is for the mentally ill ; the rewards of democracy are rape and arson, often enough delivered with the same stick.	[18:47]
ascii_field	promised them the "pearl in heavens" << aka 'jam tomorrow'	[18:49]
mircea_popescu	if dandolo had any sense they'd have plowed and salted constantinople, and sold all the women to the turks.	[18:49]
mircea_popescu	ascii_field there was this mildly famous gay boy of athens whose name escapes me at the moment, literally got a whole trireme detachment on unbacked promises of great pay (from persia iirc ?) and well... there they sat.	[18:51]
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ascii_field	eco had a pretty good piece set in 4th crusade	[18:53]
mircea_popescu	antonio doria, before being cut down by the french at crecy, was a rather successful genoese pirate. the pirate captain's regime collapsed over his (and others) failure to pay.	[18:53]
mircea_popescu	(well, he tried to pay in debased coinage, anyway. caused a revolt)	[18:54]
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asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[18:54]
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mircea_popescu	if i were younger and more bored (really, less involved with actual things) i might consider rewriting the history of the world from the only sane perspective : as the endless "interplay" between two types of people : the sane, and the imperceptibly mentally ill.	[18:55]
mircea_popescu	the former try to make things, the latter try to pass of their pretenses.	[18:55]
mircea_popescu	this is pretty much all history to date.	[18:55]
ascii_field	imperceptibly ?! l0l	[18:55]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[18:56]
mircea_popescu	nobody thinks of, say, obama as mentally ill.	[18:56]
mircea_popescu	he "seems fine".	[18:56]
ascii_field	only because 'running the asylum'	[18:56]
mircea_popescu	well... you know, the junkie is also imperceptibly addicted.	[18:56]
ascii_field	to a sane future folk, he would seem as frothingly-mad as chingis khan seems to today's liberasts	[18:57]
mircea_popescu	except the khan seems coldly sane.	[18:57]
ascii_field	to the sane.	[18:57]
mircea_popescu	hence the problem	[18:57]
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mircea_popescu	in short : those who do are dull. "i do not wish to think about these things, i have better stuff to do!!1". those who don't are insane. but who's to notice ? they themselves can't, the others can't be bothered. so... imperceptibly insane.	[18:59]
ascii_field	mircea_popescu: ... consider rewriting the history of the world from the only sane perspective : as the endless "interplay" between two types of people : the sane, and the imperceptibly mentally ill << nietzsche, or, far better, limonov	[18:59]
mircea_popescu	neither of them actually played the gibbon.	[18:59]
ascii_field	right	[18:59]
ascii_field	would need serious mad hermit, to pull this one off	[19:00]
mircea_popescu	actually, hopefully we end up in prison, like the early soviet leadership. i'm gonna write a dictionary and a history of the world.	[19:00]
mircea_popescu	by the time i'm done, it's time to start butchering the powers that used to be.	[19:00]
mircea_popescu	check it out, my life all planned out.	[19:00]
ascii_field	l0l	[19:00]
*	ascii_field doesn't expect to be taken prisoner alive, but wishes mircea_popescu a jolly good meinkampfing	[19:01]
mircea_popescu	surely.	[19:01]
williamdunne	mein bit	[19:01]
mircea_popescu	tell you what, there's not going to be any "anastasias" out of the current imperial family.	[19:01]
mircea_popescu	i fully intent to ejaculate down the cut throat of every single female involved.	[19:01]
ascii_field	ashtrays, lampshades, aha	[19:01]
williamdunne	Lovely image	[19:02]
mircea_popescu	do things right for once.	[19:02]
ascii_field	the alt.tasteless term of art, iirc, was 'to squick'	[19:02]
mircea_popescu	honestly, my greatest regret in this life so far is that ~100k romanian ex-various state things survived the year 1990.	[19:03]
ascii_field	of what consequence are the muppets ?	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	you have no aesthetic appreciation.	[19:03]
ascii_field	it's rather like cutting up enemy cannon after a war, no ?	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	yup.	[19:03]
ascii_field	the cannon do not will anything	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	i did that, too.	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	i also break keyboards.	[19:03]
mircea_popescu	salt the fucking byzantium. after the war.	[19:04]
ascii_field	now this, on the whole - yes.	[19:04]
mircea_popescu	women off to tadjikistan, milk goats in chains for the rest of their lives	[19:04]
ascii_field	!s hear the lamentations	[19:04]
assbot	1 results for 'hear the lamentations' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=hear+the+lamentations	[19:04]
mircea_popescu	and now, for contrast, i give you shamir.	[19:05]
*	ascii_field wonders if he missed something re: shamir	[19:05]
mircea_popescu	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-04-2015#1113266	[19:05]
assbot	Logged on 27-04-2015 20:04:21; danielpbarron: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9HimLksMkA	[19:05]
ascii_field	last i recall, he was turned out of usa	[19:05]
ascii_field	is there a transcript ?	[19:06]
mircea_popescu	i should prolly have one made, come to think about it.	[19:07]
mircea_popescu	gimme a minute	[19:07]
mircea_popescu	anyway, watching the derp go about how "we need regulation" suddenly made me comprehend why exactly von meck actually belonged beheaded.	[19:08]
mircea_popescu	brilliant guy, inescapably stupid. what are you gonna do ? can't empower stupid. off to the gulag with him.	[19:08]
ascii_field	von meck ?	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	you know, the "wrecker" who was "trying to make the train tracks run down faster"	[19:09]
ascii_field	aha that one	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	framing the discussion in terms of intellectual ability is completely missing the salient points. nobody ever gets offed for being either academically smart or stupid, it's orthogonal.	[19:11]
mircea_popescu	the insane can either live in the camps nor not live at all, that's the problem there. sanity, not intelligence.	[19:11]
ascii_field	except - sometimes, the sane - to the camps.	[19:13]
mircea_popescu	find me this happening.	[19:14]
ascii_field	say 2020.	[19:15]
mircea_popescu	gotta be in the past eh ?	[19:15]
ascii_field	... 1937?	[19:15]
mircea_popescu	who ?	[19:15]
mircea_popescu	who was sane and in a camp in 1937 ? the jews ?!	[19:15]
ascii_field	pretty much everyone interesting minus epsilon in su	[19:16]
mircea_popescu	doing what, sanely waiting for the messiah ? (the real one this time!)	[19:16]
mircea_popescu	everyone interesting was, sadly, not sane, in the su.	[19:16]
ascii_field	ok i'll bite:	[19:16]
mircea_popescu	the sane were pretty much either dead under the white flag, or else involved in subverting the red.	[19:16]
ascii_field	what'd a 'sane' korolev have looked like?	[19:16]
mircea_popescu	at the time ? mebbe hughes ?	[19:18]
ascii_field	describe hypothetical mechanism whereby he could have hughesed.	[19:18]
mircea_popescu	there is no requirement that graph be arbitrarily traversable.	[19:18]
mircea_popescu	even the translation is more than can be promised	[19:19]
ascii_field	probably sikorsky is better example	[19:19]
mircea_popescu	i'm really not enough of an expert in the field to be all that confident.	[19:19]
ascii_field	my observation is that escape artistry and, e.g., rocketry, are - at best - orthogonal abilities	[19:21]
mircea_popescu	sanity and intelligence are unrelated, yes.	[19:21]
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asciilifeform	!up ascii_field	[19:25]
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ascii_field	unrelated: that sks key mega-dump is in a ludicrous format - .gpg binary turds with 10,000s of pubkeys in each	[19:25]
ascii_field	will have to write something to cut this up	[19:25]
ascii_field	unless someone has just such a thing handy	[19:26]
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jurov	gpg cannot use/export it directly?	[19:29]
jurov	also unrelated: today was btrfs day (drive with few subvolumes times tens of snapshots filled, i have embarked on some cleanup)	[19:31]
mircea_popescu	gl	[19:31]
jurov	kernel oopses are apparently completely sop	[19:31]
mircea_popescu	must be because of cpanel.	[19:32]
jurov	and atime/relatime + periodic snapshotting (like suse does by default) causes metadata to grow out of any bounds	[19:33]
mircea_popescu	as trinque will explain, this is a solved problem :	[19:34]
mircea_popescu	just make a record of it	[19:34]
*	mircea_popescu crowns himself as the one true troll of b-a. so there.	[19:34]
jurov	hahaha i got this idea you know	[19:34]
jurov	to make fuse filesystem to track atimes so that brtfs needs not to bother	[19:35]
jurov	indeed making a record of it	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	win.	[19:35]
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jurov	oh and I forgot this gem: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83011	[19:44]
assbot	Bug 83011 – BUG_ON should be eradicated from the btrfs source tree ... ( http://bit.ly/1FB8qnm )	[19:44]
jurov	btrfs docs all but say that it obsoletes partition tables	[19:45]
jurov	you're supposed to have One pool with One filesystem	[19:45]
jurov	so if something happens to it, system does not deserve to go on anymore	[19:46]
BingoBoingo	Euthanizing Filesystem?	[19:47]
jurov	more like... if it commits suicide, better take everything with it	[19:50]
BingoBoingo	Ah, jihadi filesystem	[19:51]
jurov	^this	[19:51]
jurov	loks like hans reiser should be released and properly armed	[19:52]
mircea_popescu	give the man a tank huh	[19:57]
jurov	just to be fair, all was resolved without data loss	[20:01]
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scoopbot_revived	News! Shamir's derpage URL: http://trilema.com/2015/shamirs-derpage/	[20:12]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform ^ transcript	[20:12]
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scoopbot_revived	News! Google Password Alert Already Subverted URL: http://qntra.net/2015/04/google-password-alert-already-subverted/	[20:22]
BingoBoingo	^Some google derpage	[20:25]
mircea_popescu	if(document.getElementById("warning_banner")) { document.getElementById("warning_banner").remove();	[20:26]
mircea_popescu	heh	[20:26]
BingoBoingo	Seriously.remove()	[20:29]
mircea_popescu	document.getelementbyherpage.security.remove()	[20:30]
BingoBoingo	!b 6	[20:31]
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ben_vulpes	where's my log summary gurl	[20:40]
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ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115178 << wao	[20:47]
assbot	Logged on 29-04-2015 03:10:26; mircea_popescu: http://www.gotw.ca/publications/concurrency-ddj.htm << check it out, apparently moore law stopped a decade ago.	[20:47]
williamdunne	Must've accidentally trashed the email alerting me of it	[20:56]
williamdunne	Did the council of elders agree to this?	[20:56]
ben_vulpes	where's your THz chip, williamdunne?	[20:58]
ben_vulpes	i'd like one just like it.	[20:58]
williamdunne	I'm using it to mine bitcoin in iceland	[20:58]
williamdunne	Its srsbznz	[20:58]
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williamdunne	*site	[21:06]
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ben_vulpes	For example, there was a famous hack that provided a means of (1) removing a cons cell from a freelist, (2) updating the freelist, and (3) branching if the freelist was exhausted to the GC... in one instruction. << that is cool	[21:12]
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ben_vulpes	"the difference between theory and practice is, uh, larger in practice than in theory" << paul graham! whatta dood	[21:16]
ben_vulpes	"It was solid enough to be a serious system that had real clients who depended on it." << oh for those days, and those clients	[21:18]
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BingoBoingo	Oh, look at this OpenSSH change: "sshd(8): UseDNS now defaults to 'no'. Configurations that match against the client host name (via sshd_config(5) or authorized_keys) may need to re-enable it or convert to matching against addresses." http://www.openbsd.org/57.html	[21:20]
assbot	OpenBSD 5.7 ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q4pQvQ )	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	this is a good move neh ?	[21:23]
BingoBoingo	Yeah, Depreciate all the DNS	[21:24]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform : at battle of manzikert, spy to ars aslan : "my sultan, the enemy army is approaching us". ars aslan : "then we are approaching them as well"	[21:24]
trinque	damn, that's a good quote.	[21:25]
mircea_popescu	guy's name is actually alp arslan, upon research. i misremembered.	[21:26]
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ben_vulpes	BingoBoingo: "deprecate"	[21:28]
ben_vulpes	non?	[21:29]
trinque	that's the one	[21:29]
BingoBoingo	Eh, happens	[21:29]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115893 << "so, how's his english?" "pretty good, there's just this thing that happens where he occasionally says something that sounds entirely wrong and then the conversation moves on, and five minutes later I ask about it and turns out to be some throwaway joke in romanian or french or latin."	[21:30]
assbot	Logged on 29-04-2015 15:02:01; mircea_popescu: except my usage is np	[21:30]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115921 << "law of leaky abstractions" hurts so much more in these scenarios...	[21:32]
assbot	Logged on 29-04-2015 15:11:30; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu forgot e) sane person adds kludge to enable some semblance of civilization to function, creating schizoid split and opening would that bleeds complexity	[21:32]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115951 << iirc, my answer was "dunno, let's try"	[21:33]
asciilifeform	ben_vulpes: graham << was that from the 't' article ?	[21:33]
assbot	Logged on 29-04-2015 15:32:11; mircea_popescu: at any rate, THIS is why i ask people "well, can you do it on a cpanel box" well before.	[21:33]
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asciilifeform	ben_vulpes: he did pull a normal box out of his sleeve later. it is now operational.	[21:34]
mike_c	mircea_popescu: thanks, but can't imagine what I would do with it. maybe ascii wants it :) https://www.fiverr.com/jakky91/draw-any-circuit-diagram-or-pcb-layout	[21:34]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Q4skKO )	[21:34]
asciilifeform	mike_c: ugh, i don't need spamchickens for anything whatsoever	[21:34]
ben_vulpes	asciilifeform: aha	[21:35]
mike_c	he'll design your circuits for you! for $5!	[21:35]
ben_vulpes	benefits of complaining, i suppose	[21:35]
ben_vulpes	dood	[21:35]
ben_vulpes	i could have tacos delivered for like 4 months with that	[21:35]
mike_c	hehe	[21:35]
asciilifeform	ben_vulpes: i have slade's 't programming language' here. mega-book. recommended.	[21:36]
ben_vulpes	perhaps when you come visit, bring it for an extended loan if you're done	[21:36]
asciilifeform	it's for historical aficionados / lisp makers only, must warn	[21:36]
asciilifeform	does not describe a living animal	[21:36]
*	ben_vulpes shrugs	[21:36]
ben_vulpes	all i am actually good for is software archaeology after all	[21:37]
*	ben_vulpes considers the eerie parallel with his mothers work	[21:37]
asciilifeform	what was it ?	[21:37]
mike_c	fiverr call girl: https://www.fiverr.com/katiescarlett/talk-to-you-about-anything	[21:38]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1ExjzUn )	[21:38]
asciilifeform	how much of this exists anywhere other than the ads ?	[21:38]
ben_vulpes	asciilifeform: "cultural anthropology"	[21:38]
ben_vulpes	as far as i can figure, guesses (liberally sprinked with CYA) about what people did, extrapolated from their middens	[21:39]
cazalla	i wonder how much tablet traffic is demmed mobile	[21:40]
*	ben_vulpes goes for another, smaller glass of chablis	[21:40]
*	contrapumpkin is now known as copumpkin	[21:40]
cazalla	mt	[21:40]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115973 << haw well now i hafta read it	[21:41]
assbot	Logged on 29-04-2015 16:08:37; mats: special appearance by brendafdez	[21:41]
asciilifeform	achtung, panzers:	[21:42]
asciilifeform	(in case this was not clear from yesterday's thread) please -do- throw keys to http://nosuchlabs.com .	[21:42]
assbot	Submit a GPG Public Key \| Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q4u8Du )	[21:42]
asciilifeform	as many as you like.	[21:42]
trinque	asciilifeform: ones that have already been phuctored or only new ones?	[21:43]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes lolwut ?	[21:43]
trinque	I recall chatter about whether the db was getting imported	[21:43]
asciilifeform	trinque: ones that already have been, can be retested (push button on the page)	[21:43]
trinque	ok	[21:43]
ben_vulpes	mircea_popescu: what what?	[21:43]
asciilifeform	trinque: but otherwise, any	[21:43]
asciilifeform	(it will tell you if key has been seen before, also)	[21:43]
asciilifeform	or if individual moduli have been	[21:43]
asciilifeform	... or their factors.	[21:44]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes meanwhile i figured it out. you were quoting teh fox missus	[21:45]
ben_vulpes	close, but other meat	[21:45]
mircea_popescu	mike_c this, imo, sums up the general utility of "revolutionary websites". people don't want accounts on them even if given away with 200 dollars worth of credit attached.	[21:46]
asciilifeform	i can imagine that -someone- wants	[21:46]
mircea_popescu	because they actually are a much larger damage than that. sort-of like insanity.	[21:46]
asciilifeform	just not me	[21:46]
mircea_popescu	"would you like aids for 200 bucks ?" "noty"	[21:46]
cazalla	tyrone is the best fiverr merchant btw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miO8DPjSf78	[21:47]
assbot	Tyrone helps you check all your privileges. - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1c04Bgq )	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform or mike_c or anyone sane in the fucking head. or over the age of 30.	[21:47]
asciilifeform	i don't need 200 worth of caltrops either	[21:47]
asciilifeform	doesn't mean they're entirely useless	[21:47]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform how about half caltrops half bleach	[21:47]
ben_vulpes	i can put caltrops to work	[21:47]
ben_vulpes	and bleach	[21:47]
asciilifeform	now that - must.	[21:47]
asciilifeform	two tastes that go great together (TM) (R)	[21:48]
ben_vulpes	heh	[21:48]
ben_vulpes	yeah	[21:48]
ben_vulpes	this asshat on the road today rolled up behind myself and some staff on bikes, HONKED LOUDLY, and then moved into the (empty) oncoming traffic lane to pass us	[21:48]
trinque	ben_vulpes: was probably me, sorry!	[21:48]
trinque	:D	[21:48]
ben_vulpes	when i caught up to him at the stop light at the top of the hill, he had his phone out and was recording my endless tirade of abuse	[21:48]
ben_vulpes	naw ive seen your car it pollutes less and you're not nearly as fat as this old sack of shit	[21:49]
trinque	lol	[21:49]
mircea_popescu	achtung, panzers: << dawg i thought you were going to PUT THE ARCHIVE THROUGH IT ALREADY!!!1eleventyeleven	[21:49]
ben_vulpes	yeah where are the bunk keys hm?	[21:49]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-04-2015#1117153 << see also	[21:49]
assbot	Logged on 30-04-2015 22:20:33; ascii_field: unrelated: that sks key mega-dump is in a ludicrous format - .gpg binary turds with 10,000s of pubkeys in each	[21:49]
ben_vulpes	arbeit macht frei	[21:50]
asciilifeform	ben_vulpes is volunteering for this chore ?	[21:50]
ben_vulpes	naw i have vino at hand and girls waiting at home	[21:50]
mircea_popescu	yeah, he is. he's volunteering you.	[21:50]
asciilifeform	l0l	[21:50]
ben_vulpes	the shop is empty so i'm drinking and naked	[21:51]
ben_vulpes	well not naked but close	[21:51]
mircea_popescu	o.O	[21:51]
mircea_popescu	people can be naked in the us ?	[21:51]
asciilifeform	why ben_vulpes is sitting in an empty shop ?	[21:51]
ben_vulpes	I'M DOING LAUNDRY OKAY	[21:51]
mircea_popescu	i thought you folk shower in the bag.	[21:51]
asciilifeform	rather than at home where there are chicks	[21:51]
ben_vulpes	because there are two monitors and one of the chicks isn't there yet and this wine isn't going to drink itself nor these logs read themselves	[21:51]
asciilifeform	'tell mistress you're with wife, tell wife you're with mistress, go to lab, get some werk done' (tm) ?	[21:52]
ben_vulpes	p. much.	[21:52]
ben_vulpes	first the boxen, then and only then the chixxen	[21:52]
mircea_popescu	what do you call a wino in portland ?	[21:52]
mircea_popescu	a vino.	[21:52]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00025176 = 5.8408 BTC [+] {2}	[21:52]
ben_vulpes	asciilifeform: electronics hack night has been scheduled	[21:52]
asciilifeform	ben_vulpes built his adapter ?	[21:52]
ben_vulpes	nah, i have delegated the adapter to be brought to my face	[21:53]
ben_vulpes	myriad hackers are salivating over rocket	[21:53]
ben_vulpes	rocketplane*	[21:53]
asciilifeform	l0l essentially a dollar-store part	[21:53]
asciilifeform	(were it made in the usual way)	[21:54]
ben_vulpes	but this comes with provenance	[21:54]
ben_vulpes	i trust you, they trust me	[21:54]
asciilifeform	incidentally i ordered a tray baked today.	[21:54]
ben_vulpes	no microcontrollers on the board...	[21:54]
asciilifeform	(more detail in coming broadcast)	[21:54]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1116287 << i actually get visuals of mircea_popescu's face when i see ":D" from him nao	[21:55]
assbot	Logged on 29-04-2015 19:27:52; mircea_popescu: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/2785 << sometimes it fixes itself :D	[21:55]
mircea_popescu	lol.	[21:55]
asciilifeform	ben_vulpes: seems like everyone i've spoken to thinks i oughta have bought the bayonet, luger, helmet, etc.	[21:57]
cazalla	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-05-2015#1117204 <<< but adblock is theft!	[21:57]
assbot	Logged on 01-05-2015 00:00:54; williamdunne: >Requests that you disable adblock	[21:57]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-04-2015#1116481 << uh can i get a copy of the source and possibly some docs?	[21:57]
assbot	Logged on 30-04-2015 00:01:59; Pierre_Rochard: pacioli accounting software preview: http://pacio.li/FinancialStatements/IncomeStatement/BTC/Month/Current	[21:57]
ben_vulpes	asciilifeform: sorry, do not follow	[21:57]
asciilifeform	at the flea market	[21:57]
ben_vulpes	ahaha	[21:57]
ben_vulpes	well what do they know	[21:57]
ben_vulpes	"more intertia is better!"	[21:57]
mircea_popescu	that's why bigger penis is better rite ?	[21:58]
asciilifeform	what i wonder is whether there are any 'krauts' left there or merely their gear.	[21:58]
ben_vulpes	and how much of that gear is even genuinely kraut	[21:58]
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Pierre_Rochard	ben_vulpes: docs are forthcoming, I’ve added you to the repo: https://github.com/PierreRochard/pacioli	[21:59]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Q4xhDa )	[21:59]
ben_vulpes	ah jeez	[21:59]
ben_vulpes	what have i done	[21:59]
ben_vulpes	https://soundcloud.com/charlottejapp/12-house-of-bamboo	[22:00]
assbot	12 House of Bamboo by charlottejapp \| Free Listening on SoundCloud ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q4xpTp )	[22:00]
cazalla	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-05-2015#1117289 <<< soz but i do this, get off the road, can' t expect everyone to drive 30km/ph in a 60 zone because muh bikes	[22:00]
assbot	Logged on 01-05-2015 00:43:28; ben_vulpes: this asshat on the road today rolled up behind myself and some staff on bikes, HONKED LOUDLY, and then moved into the (empty) oncoming traffic lane to pass us	[22:00]
ben_vulpes	"pick yourself a kitten and listen to a platter...that rocks!"	[22:00]
mircea_popescu	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyE_OiDVXCo	[22:00]
assbot	Der Königgrätzer Marsch - Berlin Tattoo - YouTube	[22:00]
cazalla	oncoming traffic lane is fine to use as an overtaking lane too, law allows for it but even without that..	[22:01]
ben_vulpes	no but the point is that the lane was entirely empty, so why fucking honk	[22:01]
ben_vulpes	just go around.	[22:02]
*	asciilifeform on narrow streets often wonders how much fuel enviro-bicyclists waste by slowing down columns of motor	[22:02]
cazalla	ben_vulpes, i dunno but most cyclists are passive aggressive pricks may as well join in with the honking	[22:02]
ben_vulpes	asciilifeform: probably makes things better by reducing the "GO FAST NOW BRAKE AND WASTE ALL KE NOW HURRY UP AND ACCELERATE MYRIAD TONNES OF PLASTIC AGAIN" dynamic	[22:02]
mircea_popescu	ben_vulpes nobody actually likes hipsters.	[22:02]
mircea_popescu	go by atomic submarine helicopter or go home.	[22:03]
asciilifeform	!b 2	[22:04]
assbot	Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/1TWAYJX.txt )	[22:04]
asciilifeform	submacopter.	[22:04]
ben_vulpes	did you duct tape the submarine part to the heli part?	[22:04]
mircea_popescu	ITS ATOMIC	[22:04]
mircea_popescu	self-welds.	[22:04]
ben_vulpes	he's been derping on cpanel, i can see.	[22:04]
asciilifeform	bwwwwtzzz. (7Hz 'brown note' speaker on any decent atomic dirigible.)	[22:05]
asciilifeform	!s brown note	[22:05]
assbot	2 results for 'brown note' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=brown+note	[22:05]
mircea_popescu	afaik brown note for us legion etrangere is "isis"	[22:05]
ben_vulpes	Pierre_Rochard: ever derp on "Manager"?	[22:05]
ben_vulpes	it's what we use at sj - can be beaten into whatever absurd demand i make of $bizpartner	[22:06]
Pierre_Rochard	ben_vulpes: nope, hadn’t heard of it, checking it out now	[22:06]
Pierre_Rochard	looks sleek	[22:06]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-04-2015#1116715 << you probably grok entirely the advantage of that "tiny little keyboard" over touchscreens	[22:07]
assbot	Logged on 30-04-2015 13:42:00; mircea_popescu: on that litthe shitty keyboard ?	[22:07]
mircea_popescu	sure.	[22:08]
ben_vulpes	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-04-2015#1116751 << asciilifeform: the lotto tixx!	[22:08]
assbot	Logged on 30-04-2015 14:12:57; mircea_popescu: because that's what #5 does, practically : it offers a model to explain and understand the otherwise insane, and otherwise never explain, luxury behaviour.	[22:08]
asciilifeform	#5 aka 'the gods smile'	[22:09]
asciilifeform	but afaik most veblenism comes from misguided attempts to sate #1-4.	[22:10]
ben_vulpes	can i skip the whole WolfeGoethe thread?	[22:10]
mircea_popescu	you prolly read it before.	[22:11]
ben_vulpes	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCHRQTVUoAAFnSw.png:large << heh. seems familiar, but the details are new	[22:11]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1c09rtQ )	[22:11]
ben_vulpes	kudos a danielpbarron	[22:11]
Pierre_Rochard	ben_vulpes: not seeing how to customize manager, looks proprietary	[22:12]
ben_vulpes	oh entirely	[22:13]
ben_vulpes	this however is how management works	[22:13]
ben_vulpes	"beat that thing into submission and deliver what i've asked for"	[22:13]
asciilifeform	https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCHRQTVUoAAFnSw.png:large << missing element 'atomic dirigible'	[22:13]
assbot	... ( http://bit.ly/1Q4A6UO )	[22:13]
danielpbarron	i didn't make the thing / found on twitter	[22:14]
mircea_popescu	ahaha "unicorn polyamory" ?	[22:14]
asciilifeform	l0l what even.	[22:14]
mircea_popescu	gtfo, reddit. you don't get to classify the things other people do.	[22:14]
Pierre_Rochard	I’ll definitely be taking pointers from it, but end goal is tight integration with bitcoin wallets & APIs, and leaning on pgsql as much as possible. That’s what made greenfield a necessity	[22:14]
Pierre_Rochard	^ ben_vulpes	[22:15]
ben_vulpes	Pierre_Rochard: nono ofc	[22:15]
ben_vulpes	asking out of curiosity	[22:15]
Pierre_Rochard	thanks for the tip though, definitely one of the rare accounting packages I didn’t find immediately revolting	[22:15]
ben_vulpes	great thing about -assets is the "rewrite everything" option	[22:15]
*	danielpbarron fits in with the blue rectangle in the top right excluded from the overlapping	[22:15]
ben_vulpes	it's actually halfway decent	[22:15]
ben_vulpes	danielpbarron: it's missing the dune/WoT polyamory	[22:16]
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ben_vulpes	oh hey here's a notion	[22:16]
ben_vulpes	!s robert jordan	[22:16]
assbot	0 results for 'robert jordan' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=robert+jordan	[22:16]
ben_vulpes	aha	[22:16]
ben_vulpes	epic mega series	[22:16]
asciilifeform	it is also missing the reddit category	[22:16]
ben_vulpes	yeah where is the voluntary celibacy box?	[22:17]
asciilifeform	'voluntary-compulsory', to borrow a sovietism	[22:17]
mircea_popescu	lol	[22:17]
mircea_popescu	danielpbarron i can vouch for the fact that the classification's nonsensical by the plain observation that i'm all over the fucking map.	[22:17]
mircea_popescu	it looks like the elephant three people found in a dark room.	[22:18]
ben_vulpes	it's like one of those lolarious meyers briggs thing	[22:18]
ben_vulpes	anyone with two neurons rubbing together can make it barf whatever rating zhe desire	[22:18]
asciilifeform	the elephant three people found in a dark room << except that it isn't a whole elephant, but just head, minus tusks, left by poachers	[22:18]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform well sure.	[22:19]
mircea_popescu	there was no integrity promise made at any point.	[22:19]
mircea_popescu	""the elephant" they found"	[22:19]
mircea_popescu	anyway, i will say for the record that all this "typficiation" bullshit, from the ntjx to the mti to everything else is ~strictly~ the result of lazy writing.	[22:20]
asciilifeform	!s borges encyclopaedia	[22:20]
*	ben_vulpes shutters lab	[22:20]
assbot	2 results for 'borges encyclopaedia' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=borges+encyclopaedia	[22:20]
mircea_popescu	harlan e has a piece where he explains how people like hubbard were optimizing their workflow by - for instance - typing on rolls of butcher paper so as to not waste time changing sheets in typewriter	[22:20]
ben_vulpes	goodnight asshats	[22:21]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: scrolling!	[22:21]
ben_vulpes	aha this one	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	this exact process is at work here - it becomes much easier to write the sort of pulp cultureless usians call "novels" by proceeding on one of these accounting paradigms	[22:21]
*	ben_vulpes really parts	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	practically speaking, commedia de larte	[22:21]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: all of it being merely - early manually-cranked shannonizers.	[22:21]
mircea_popescu	poorly-er done. meanly-er done, actually, in the classical sense of mean ("of mean extraction")	[22:22]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform exactly.	[22:22]
mircea_popescu	so... it's only useful if you're making two cents a word writing "young adult fiction" or whatever other "genre" bullshit, and need shorthand to keep track of your "characters"	[22:23]
mircea_popescu	of course contemporary usage is unpaid shanonizers (such as, reddit users), increasing the volume and decreasing the cost of their misrepresentations of their own social interactions.	[22:24]
mircea_popescu	which is technically a step below on the literary scale. i await with bated breath the next step underwater.	[22:24]
danielpbarron	the author of sex-diagram -> https://www.franklinveaux.com/ "This is the home of Franklin Veaux, a writer, computer consultant, polyamory and BDSM activist, sex educator, and sometimes amateur photographer. Over the years, I've built a more or less inadvertent Web empire, and this is the page that brings all my various Web sites together."	[22:24]
assbot	Welcome to FranklinVeaux.com! ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q4BXsV )	[22:24]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu: for some time, i've wondered about earliest surviving example of shannonizer	[22:24]
asciilifeform	currently i believe it to be athanasius kircher's 'arca musarithmica'	[22:24]
mircea_popescu	asciilifeform you ever read the torah ?	[22:24]
asciilifeform	sure. nothing directly analogous in there iirc	[22:25]
mircea_popescu	you gotta be kidding me.	[22:25]
asciilifeform	http://www.digicult.it/digimag/issue-055/athanasius-kircher-arca-musarithmica-and-many-sound-devices	[22:25]
assbot	Athanasius Kircher. Arca Musarithmica And Many Sound Devices - Digicult \| Digital Art, Design and Culture : Digicult \| Digital Art, Design and Culture ... ( http://bit.ly/1Q4CaMz )	[22:25]
mircea_popescu	"and then herpderp had perpmerp who lived to 105	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	and then perpmerp had foobar who lived to 103	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	and then..."	[22:26]
asciilifeform	sure, but that's a trivial example	[22:26]
mircea_popescu	soooo ?	[22:26]
asciilifeform	no mechanization, even of the 'napier's bones' variety, required.	[22:26]
asciilifeform	shannonizer necessarily includes some element of automation.	[22:26]
asciilifeform	(a schizo gibbering idiocy is not a shannonizer)	[22:27]
asciilifeform	any more than an expert swimmer is by implication a boat.	[22:27]
asciilifeform	re: this question i am interested in learning who was the first 'sailor' and what was his 'boat'.	[22:28]
mircea_popescu	hm.	[22:28]
mircea_popescu	astrology.	[22:28]
asciilifeform	presently i think it to be kircher.	[22:28]
asciilifeform	hm now that mircea_popescu mentions astrology,	[22:28]
mircea_popescu	srsly alf, shanonizing is a very old usage of language.	[22:28]
asciilifeform	probably the mega-winner of 'earliest' is chinese i-ching.	[22:28]
mircea_popescu	it drove it, in paralel with expression.	[22:29]
asciilifeform	(earliest surviving)	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	language is not the result of a single force, but of two, driving it in that left-right manner of driving splits in wood.	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	right.	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	brb	[22:29]
asciilifeform	mircea_popescu is right about this - i invite readers to look into the basic types of aphasia	[22:29]
*	asciilifeform also brb	[22:29]
*	danielpbarron wrote a few I Ching divination pages in javascript	[22:30]
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danielpbarron	!up bocobit	[22:46]
*	assbot gives voice to bocobit	[22:46]
mircea_popescu	danielpbarron isn't that witchcraft ?	[22:48]
BingoBoingo	For shame, 768 bit RSA key from 2002 http://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xA8F0C01E3330EE4B	[22:50]
assbot	Public Key Server -- Get "0xa8f0c01e3330ee4b " ... ( http://bit.ly/1JEQ73d )	[22:50]
danielpbarron	not sure what it counts as, but I'm not into that stuff anymore / burned my yarrow stalks and books on i ching and tao te ching etc	[22:50]
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danielpbarron	and the scripts are not hosted anywhere, although copies may still exist in a backup tar somewhere	[22:51]
mircea_popescu	Moduli Waiting for Test: 0 / me likes	[22:52]
mircea_popescu	http://okcunt.com/	[23:01]
assbot	OkCunt – ... ( http://bit.ly/1JEQTgo )	[23:01]
BingoBoingo	lolmail address http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/CB903F51FBA526E9CC8227CD131377450BAA60C8C0AA0371263ECBE4AA361B5B	[23:05]
assbot	Welcome \| Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1JERdf9 )	[23:05]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.00024825 = 6.6531 BTC [-]	[23:06]
mircea_popescu	poor guy	[23:10]
mod6	haha	[23:11]
*	BingoBoingo is braintired, handfeeding phuctor	[23:13]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo srsly, script it	[23:16]
*	assbot removes voice from bocobit	[23:16]
mircea_popescu	not something to do by hand	[23:16]
mircea_popescu	scripting is also not hard. curl will do post calls	[23:17]
BingoBoingo	It's a kind of targeted subset of keys I'm feeding and there aren't too many	[23:18]
mircea_popescu	aite.	[23:19]
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danielpbarron	mod6, "The Bitcoin Foundation would like bestow our sincerest thanks and gratitude" << like to* bestow ?	[23:49]
mod6	ah derp	[23:50]
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mod6	well, at least im consistant. :] looks that way in all of	[23:51]
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mod6	'em	[23:51]
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mod6	anyway, thanks, i'll update on the next months address.	[23:54]
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asciilifeform	Moduli Waiting for Test: 0 / me likes << read werker.c to see how works.	[23:55]
*	assbot gives voice to decimation	[23:56]
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decimation	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-04-2015#1117125 < http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=30-03-2015#1079265	[23:59]
assbot	Logged on 30-04-2015 22:03:49; mircea_popescu: brilliant guy, inescapably stupid. what are you gonna do ? can't empower stupid. off to the gulag with him.	[23:59]
assbot	Logged on 30-03-2015 01:48:44; Adlai: deal with all situations. But whoever is stupid and industrious must be removed immediately." - Attributed, circa 1933; General Baron Kurt von Hammerstein-Equord (1878-1943); German Chief of Army Command (1930-33)	[23:59]

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