Forum logs for 30 Apr 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 2000 @ 0.00184061 = 3.6812 BTC [+] {14} [00:01]
decimation mircea_popescu: so have you been poking around centos or scientific linux? [00:03]
mircea_popescu mnope [00:03]
decimation I assumed based on your epel comment [00:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1000 @ 0.0016191 = 1.6191 BTC [-] {2} [00:04]
mircea_popescu ah, installed nginx, yeah [00:04]
mircea_popescu i guess this qualifies. [00:04]
decimation if you want something that can serve static pages < fits in head [00:06]
assbot darkhttpd ... ( ) [00:06]
mircea_popescu nah, i run wordpress [00:07]
decimation I assume you saw [00:08]
assbot Comments considered harmful: WordPress web hijack bug revealed • The Register ... ( ) [00:08]
mircea_popescu :p [00:10]
assbot Logged on 29-04-2015 18:06:30; mircea_popescu: 2.x immune. [00:10]
decimation ah heh [00:10]
mircea_popescu not upgrading pays. [00:12]
decimation yes indeed. which is why most 'serious business' uses old redhat [00:14]
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decimation lol some guy was reading #b-a and has an anti-tcp agenda [00:26]
assbot The NoTCP Manifesto ... ( ) [00:26]
mircea_popescu wait, node.js is performant ?! [00:27]
mircea_popescu what is this, the future ? [00:27]
mircea_popescu "Chukka-booted footsteps" ahaha ok. [00:28]
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decimation yeah I'm not sure if the guy is joking or not [00:31]
mircea_popescu hey various folks whose pgp keys i've signed at teh conference key signing party... you're supposed to also sign mine! [00:38]
decimation !up gabriel_laddel [00:38]
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gabriel_laddel thank you [00:38]
gabriel_laddel << We're discussing the same thing. If the program has "marked" all instances of $WHATEVER I can trivally add "Would you like me to a) check all places where it's called and report what I can figure out about the context ? b) iterate you through all locations ? c) change it back ? d) run a trace see what happens ?" on top of it. [00:38]
assbot Logged on 29-04-2015 14:29:15; mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel "why are the holes not marked or filled?" << ftr this is not what i was contemplating. what I was contemplating is, why the fuck don't defaults pop up. bring back the fucking paperclip, put it the ONE place where it makes fucking sense. "hey john, I see you changed FuckOff() from bool to int. This function is called 82 places in 22 files. Would you like me to a) check a [00:38]
gabriel_laddel << lol [00:38]
assbot Logged on 29-04-2015 14:31:02; Adlai: aha, the good old C-c C-w C-c [00:38]
gabriel_laddel << If the "rules" of human language are formalized it becomes much easier to break them in interesting ways. One could use the output of a shannonizer to inform word choice for his story, enforcing that each word is followed by one of the top 10 least likely words in the whole of the language up to this point. I suspect that such a tale would be great fun to re [00:38]
gabriel_laddel ad, as most people would immediately recoil in horror, seeing something so very different what they're used to. [00:38]
assbot Logged on 29-04-2015 14:41:31; mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel "Why isn't there grammer/spellchecking for my comments? " << this i can readily answer. because I am what's called "a creator of language", which is to say one of those people who, through his usage, ENACTS the rules all amateur users of language MUST follow, as a mark of their linguistic inferiority. like fucking shakespeare. [00:38]
gabriel_laddel << and I will point out that you're wrong. The simplicity of lisp vs. C is absolutely due to the inherrent properties of the respective artifacts. Seriously, MMM vs GC, parsing vs. not, no bignums vs. numerics - "abstractions push upward" (TM). [00:38]
assbot Logged on 29-04-2015 15:00:28; mircea_popescu: << this, i will point out, is in no way related to any inherent property of either (unless you mean lisp is inherently going to fail), but simply a function of context. had the linux kernel been implemented in sclb, and had the past 20 years been spent with scbl being "the cool language", you'd be having zhe pronouns and assorted [00:38]
gabriel_laddel << [00:39]
assbot Logged on 29-04-2015 17:05:19; mircea_popescu: << dude srsly. GET A BLOG ALREADY. [00:39]
assbot SPOILER ALERT ... ( ) [00:39]
gabriel_laddel << b/c it doesn't belong in a blog post. [00:39]
assbot Logged on 29-04-2015 17:12:02; mircea_popescu: and why the fuck am i referencing pastebins. [00:39]
mircea_popescu holy shit sherlock [00:39]
decimation heh [00:39]
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mircea_popescu gabriel_laddel natural languages are not formalizable. [00:39]
gabriel_laddel << see the lisp machine etc. [00:40]
assbot Logged on 29-04-2015 17:11:55; mircea_popescu: "The studious will note that this is a completely solved problem that no machine learning algorithm will be able to approximate anytime soon." i'm sorry...what ? solved how ? [00:40]
gabriel_laddel Erik Naggum disagreed [00:40]
mircea_popescu erik naggum was not a linguist. [00:40]
gabriel_laddel Lemme find the quote [00:40]
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gabriel_laddel apart from this, I have written Emacs Lisp functions to make a statement into a question and vice versa, to join and split sentences (not quite as trivial as it sounds), to upgrade from singular to plural and vice versa, to change the person from second to third and vice versa, et cetera. significant parts of grammar is the way it is to maintain correspondence between numbers and persons and tenses and such, and sin [00:45]
gabriel_laddel ce this is mostly redundant, it can be also automated. this is stuff that takes just a bit of time to do, but when a whole paragraph of text needs to be changed from second person singular or from third person singular to third person plural, it's nice to do that with a couple keystrokes. it's also nice to see that the pronouns are easily traceable to their origins, and don't get messed up in several layers of refer [00:45]
gabriel_laddel ences. if my code can't figure it out, chances are so won't anybody else, at least not easily. [00:45]
gabriel_laddel ^ that is formalized enough for me. [00:45]
mircea_popescu "formalized enough" eh ? [00:46]
gabriel_laddel Would you agree that a shannonizer is a formalization? [00:47]
mircea_popescu i would agree that the counting horse is a remarkable horse, [00:48]
mircea_popescu but i won't agree he's a mathematician. [00:48]
gabriel_laddel wait what [00:48]
mircea_popescu a shannonizer is a formalisation, but not of natural language. [00:48]
gabriel_laddel I'll agree to that. [00:49]
decimation all models are wrong - some are useful [00:49]
decimation ^George Box [00:50]
mircea_popescu if a purpose is stated. [00:50]
gabriel_laddel wtf I can't find the source for that quote anymore [00:50]
gabriel_laddel anyways - full quote is available here: [00:51]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform << check it out btw. [00:52]
assbot The Samuel Johnson Sound Bite Page: Apocrypha ... ( ) [00:52]
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mircea_popescu "I have typed an average of 21.3 keystrokes per second" eh gtfo. [00:54]
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mircea_popescu "to maintain correspondence between numbers and persons and tenses and such, and since this is mostly redundant, it can be also automated. this is stuff that takes just a bit of time to do, but when a whole paragraph of text " << such nonsense. [01:24]
mircea_popescu a fine example of "too easy". [01:25]
asciilifeform happy hitler's-brains-on-the-floor day. [01:43]
asciilifeform (and su flag on reichstag night.) [01:43]
asciilifeform decimation> asciilifeform: more on ada: < the list of us universities has a conspicuous absence of 'popular' tech schools << 'where used' is by far the least appealing aspect of ada. as for 'where taught', the answer is largely nowhere. the kind of thinking implied by ada is a -culture- that has to be imparted. [01:45]
assbot Universities | Academia | AdaCore ... ( ) [01:45]
asciilifeform ah, installed nginx, yeah << on top of apache again ? [01:46]
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pete_dushenski "For maximum security, our BlackBerry PGP encryption service utilizes AES 256 bit PGP encryption with a 4096 bit RSA key format." << also uses session keys, but these are presumably generated on the phone, so... [10:09]
pete_dushenski though the private master key is generated on a desktop. [10:09]
mats 'Custom encrypted domains' what [10:11]
mircea_popescu i don't get it. which is it ? [10:12]
mircea_popescu do they do the "rsa encryption of an aes symmetric key" thing ? [10:13]
pete_dushenski i dun follow that part at all. the pgp/rsa makes sense but where aes comes in is anyone's guess. [10:14]
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pete_dushenski meh. not like i'm signing up anytime soon. [10:15]
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jurov iirc pgp/rsa is computationally expensive, so it's only used to establish rsa keys [10:16]
jurov ssh does it same way [10:16]
jurov *establish aes keys [10:17]
mircea_popescu jurov gpg does the same thing, yeah, but then again that was the 80s. [10:32]
mircea_popescu funny how moore law is always there to justify doing something stupid, never to justify doing things like "rsa all the way - we can afford it now" [10:32]
Pierre_Rochard unrelated: [10:36]
assbot Why is your millenial crying? A guide for parents and other concerned parties, by Gemma Correll. - Boing Boing ... ( ) [10:36]
jurov in this case it's not moore's law but bandwidth. you can't have megabytes/second with rsa, or if you do, battery dies [10:41]
mircea_popescu and in the lulz of today, [10:44]
assbot dpaste: 0BSP2VK ... ( ) [10:44]
mircea_popescu jurov how does a blackberry send megabytes/second ? [10:44]
jurov with 3G/4G modem? [10:46]
mircea_popescu so let me get this straight. [10:46]
mircea_popescu best secretary i eve rhad did 82 wpm. [10:46]
mircea_popescu naggum, through the magic of shoving lisp up his ass, types 180wpm [10:46]
mircea_popescu but obama and the rest of the blackberry users type... 500k wpm ? [10:46]
jurov butbutbutmultimedia! [10:47]
mircea_popescu on that litthe shitty keyboard ? [10:47]
mircea_popescu o, you need to encrypt teh multishittia, yeh, sure. [10:47]
mircea_popescu use AES FOR THAT! [10:47]
jurov well, you live on the sane planet where people send only typed text by email and other things by other channels [10:49]
mircea_popescu there is such a thing as mime [10:50]
jurov and? so the optimal thing would be to parse the email and encrypt some parts by rsa and some by aes or what? [10:52]
mircea_popescu iirc blackberry was positioning itself as "text only. for important folk". [10:53]
jurov was [10:53]
mircea_popescu anyway, optimal thing would be user specified, and full rsa option. [10:53]
jurov explain that as an admin to your CEO what that stuff means and why [10:54]
mircea_popescu eh, fire the ceo. [10:54]
jurov ... [10:54]
jurov one of my first job as admin were email servers. and from the beginning it was like "plz to raise limit on attachments" "plz why the email did not arrive yet" "plz why is the internet slow cant you, you know set some priorities for traffic" [10:56]
jurov now go explain encryption options [10:57]
mircea_popescu "rsa. use for text. rsa/aes. use for anything that's not text." [10:58]
mircea_popescu << where black lives that matter meet white cocks that are free! [10:59]
assbot Harvard students protesting police brutality clash with naked runners ... ( ) [10:59]
mircea_popescu << i didn't actually run it, just, got curious as to what exactly fails to work. [11:00]
assbot Logged on 30-04-2015 04:41:10; asciilifeform: ah, installed nginx, yeah << on top of apache again ? [11:00]
Pierre_Rochard “For people to say black lives matter, and for the crowd to shout back ‘U.S.A.,’ which is upholding a system that is oppressing black people, I think that that is problematic,” [11:02]
Pierre_Rochard “problematic” is my favorite SJW word [11:03]
mircea_popescu direct soviet translation. [11:03]
mircea_popescu << good for him. [11:06]
assbot Logged on 30-04-2015 13:00:33; pete_dushenski: apparently he has some large contracts already, something in the order of $6mn per year and no employees. [11:06]
mats sounds like an excellent scam [11:07]
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mircea_popescu << i might have found the tensest thing i wrote on trilema. wishing goodluck to anyone who's going to write a program to tokenize this text. [11:08]
assbot Desteapta-te-n pula mea de distractie on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [11:08]
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pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: the impressive and simultaneously worrying aspect of the bb-pgp biz is that the owner was a former tradesman who apparently thought to himself "hey, you know what the market needs, properly encrypted messaging!" [11:15]
scoopbot_revived News! Flirting with the prettiest girl in school. URL: [11:15]
assbot Flirting with the prettiest girl in school. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( ) [11:15]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski what trade ? [11:16]
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pete_dushenski i want to say... plumbing. but i'll confirm. i know someone who knows him. [11:16]
mircea_popescu so have him drop by [11:16]
mircea_popescu "This, mystical domination, is easily the prettiest girl in school. She’s the most unattainable, the most lust-worthy, the most drool-inducing" << you know what veblen goods are ? [11:17]
pete_dushenski ... i do not. [11:18]
mircea_popescu because that's what #5 does, practically : it offers a model to explain and understand the otherwise insane, and otherwise never explain, luxury behaviour. [11:18]
mircea_popescu that it explains it does NOT reduce the insanity of it however. [11:18]
mircea_popescu veblen goods are goods which exhibit reverse price relation (demand increases as price increases, as opposed to how it normally goes). [11:18]
pete_dushenski agreed about the insanity of pursuing #5, no matter how useful of a model its pursuit may prove in hindsight. [11:20]
mircea_popescu right, just because prayer worked in the past is no reason to pray. [11:21]
pete_dushenski ah so veblen goods would be like that dentist's services i was mentioning the other day. [11:21]
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assbot Logged on 27-04-2015 16:32:38; pete_dushenski: like the dentist who's busy when priced competitively, wants to be less busy, jacks up his prices to the highest in town, and then has his doors beaten down with customers like never before. [11:21]
pete_dushenski re: prayer, not like i'm going to go eat a loaf of bread now either just because a pizza pinged off my immunoarmour [11:22]
mircea_popescu the thng with allergies, and especiaslly in young people, is that they do go away. [11:23]
mircea_popescu that's treatment : remove the allergen, give it a few years, try a minute dose. [11:23]
pete_dushenski well the treatment seems to be working! [11:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.0002873 = 2.126 BTC [+] [11:24]
pete_dushenski i tried a corona a few months, which are supposedly as low on the gluten scale as they come for normal beers, and i puked my guts out. [11:25]
mircea_popescu (they go away for the same reason vaccine-acquired immunity goes away, ftr) [11:25]
pete_dushenski so something's improved since then [11:25]
mircea_popescu great dress, great hooters. great hooters, great dress. [11:26]
mircea_popescu the inseparable! [11:26]
assbot ... ( ) [11:26]
pete_dushenski the memory b-cells don't last forever. [11:26]
mircea_popescu "When To Tell A Guy You Are Transgender by Whitey Niggerson - [12:00]
mircea_popescu >After first date and over the phone. [12:00]
mircea_popescu I agree. If you tell them upfront, they'll be weirded out. If you tell them in person, they might try to physically hurt you." [12:00]
mircea_popescu clearly, there's nothing wrong with this. everyone (else) is just mean evil and weird. [12:00]
ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: plz foar to nuke gravatar [12:02]
pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: beleeting your e-mail did the trick. [12:03]
ben_vulpes pahahaha yeah okay i'll just ask you to do that every time i comment on contravex [12:04]
pete_dushenski or just you or something [12:04]
mircea_popescu since somehow scoopbot missed (hey williamdunne how's that work ?), dedicating it to nubbins` an' asciilifeform by hand. [12:04]
assbot The museum of the National Bank of Argentina on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [12:04]
pete_dushenski mebbe scoopy no like photodump ? [12:06]
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williamdunne mircea_popescu: Scoop was down for a while, I committed an upgrade too early [12:07]
mircea_popescu does it keep a list of what it last posted so when it comes back up it can see if there's anything new ? [12:08]
williamdunne Yes but its not persistant [12:08]
williamdunne Thats one of the upgrades I need to make [12:09]
mircea_popescu so put it in a file or something yeah [12:09]
ben_vulpes > committed an upgrade << heh [12:09]
ben_vulpes young man, you have committed an outrageous upgrade for the most serene republic! [12:09]
ben_vulpes your reward is more demands! [12:09]
mircea_popescu :D [12:09]
williamdunne mircea_popescu: Basically [12:10]
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mircea_popescu mike_c svg fix confirmed! [12:11]
mike_c great [12:11]
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* mircea_popescu is so enamoured with this svg thing. [12:12]
* mod6 looks [12:12]
mod6 Well, the lordship updates seem to be in place nicely. [12:15]
mod6 :] [12:15]
mircea_popescu mike_c q : how hard would it be to enforce fixed placement on the inner circle ? i dunno how they're placed now, but how about just divide 2pi to however many people and each gets that much sector [12:16]
mircea_popescu as opposed to now where 1.05-1.1 is five people from cazalla to mats. [12:17]
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mircea_popescu hm, that might not be so clever, ends up crunching the lines instead of crunching the nodes by outside exposure. [12:19]
mircea_popescu mike_c nevermind, it's correct as it is. [12:19]
mod6 I love this chart as well; are there any plans to make the name's in the graph link to the corresponding page for that user/keyid? [12:20]
mike_c mod6: maybe yes, I'm exploring that. [12:21]
mod6 werd [12:21]
mod6 Sorry, I don't wanna make more work for ya. It's p. awesome as is. [12:21]
mike_c not at all, suggestions and feedback are welcome [12:21]
mod6 sweet, the sorting of ratings data looks great [12:24]
mod6 got a link to phuctor too. o/ [12:25]
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mod6 i just realized i can zoom out on this... looking more and more areodynamic every day. [12:28]
mod6 *aerodynamic [12:29]
mod6 haha re: "assorted domestic animals" [12:30]
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mircea_popescu it's like 4k by 4k px naturally. [12:35]
bagels7 As someone who is transgender I stay away from men in general. I make men angry that would rather kill me than to deal with their faggot insecurity [12:35]
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mircea_popescu how do you know it's faggot insecurity ? [12:43]
lobbes I stay away from men in general. << you spend time in this channel though. About 95% men from what I guess [12:44]
mircea_popescu incidentally, the original (mostly politically driven) explanation for violence against homosexuals - some sort of "homophobia" suffers a lot seeing how ALL SORTS of other sexual behaviours elicit the same violent response. such as transsexualism, or pedophilia. [12:45]
mircea_popescu obviously sexual normativity is enforced on some sort of level irrespectively of the type. [12:46]
mircea_popescu while it's true that it probably shares that source with all sorts of nuttery (religious fervor, for instance), i very much doubt the actual motivator is what's proposed, ie, "dude is secretly gay and fighting it overtly" [12:47]
mircea_popescu or else why do [mostly old women] go to church ? because they're affraid they're secretly god ? [12:48]
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williamdunne Isn't violence against transsexualism also generally considered homophobia, or at least some sort of xenophobia [12:57]
lobbes probably lumped under 'hate crimes' [13:01]
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bagels7 [11:38] <+mircea_popescu> how do you know it's faggot insecurity ? << When I am waiting at a bus stop at 2 in the morning and a guy walks by and pretends to be waiting for the bus as an excuse to talk to me while I am merely being polite then after 15 minutes has the nerve to tell me that I deceived him when he was only being nice to get laid [13:14]
mircea_popescu williamdunne by now they've completely lost any sort of relation between words. it's just... word word word word. [13:15]
mircea_popescu bagels7 well... there's a lot of nuts out there. [13:15]
bagels7 mad at himself because he couldnt tell what I was [13:15]
lobbes bagels7, that is ultimately his problem though, no? Why change your lifestyle based on others? [13:16]
lobbes in terms of avoiding people [13:16]
bagels7 where as a man that was secure could admit that a trans woman is hot despite not wanting to sleep with her [13:16]
mircea_popescu lobbes let me tell you why. because if servers introduce a new response code, you're stuck either making your browser aware of it, or else put up with the constant bitching. [13:16]
bagels7 I don't see how I changed my lifestyle lobbes [13:17]
mircea_popescu which is why standards committees even exist : because in any interconnected system, you're constantly stuck with [13:17]
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mircea_popescu and this is why the traditional statement of the objection among the wrong side of kink high is "i don't want them imposing their stuff on me". [13:17]
bagels7 "sexual normativity" just comes of as heterosexual / vanilla propaganda [13:18]
mircea_popescu obviously the correct reaction would just be what i did on the meat list, ie, group all weird under a single "Weird" heading. but then obviously this irks the delusions of individuality of the individual weird involved, so there's that line of bitching. [13:18]
mircea_popescu anyway, that's the broad conflict. "being special" having been promulgated as a social good, and smashing the classification being a bona fide way to manufacture specialness, you now have the conflict of the boring who aspire to hack their way to attention vs the people who don't care about them and wish to remain able to not care about them. [13:22]
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mircea_popescu it's irresolvable, for as long as a) "being special" is valued formally rather than substantially, and b) people get to make choice on the mere grounds of existing. [13:22]
mircea_popescu the good news being that neither a or b are actual things, or have any sort of hope of long term survival. just the froth of our days, soon to be gone back into the darkness that spawned them. [13:23]
mircea_popescu mats it recently changed ip, you seeing ? [13:24]
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ascii_field mircea_popescu: The museum of the National Bank of Argentina << mega-article. [13:26]
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ascii_field every country should have an exhibit of its 'zimbabwean' currencies [13:26]
mircea_popescu well not many countries have this much experience with it. [13:27]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: the gold balance suggests that they had something like engl. 'trial of the pyx'. did they ? [13:27]
mircea_popescu i think there are some such, mostly with confederate dollars, in the us [13:27]
mats mircea_popescu: nope [13:27]
mircea_popescu yes. [13:27]
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ascii_field << not only up, but running on spiffy new box supplied by mircea_popescu [13:30]
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lobbes 'The Bush administration relied more heavily on psychologists than psychiatrists or other health professionals to monitor many interrogations' [13:44]
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ascii_field << check out the spikes. [13:54]
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ascii_field spamatronic ? [13:54]
ascii_field mircea_popescu ^ [13:55]
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mod6 Lady quasi-butt, depicted with all the skill and guile of somebody that's never seen one. << lol [14:39]
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mod6 mircea_popescu: lot of nice pics in there thx! [14:52]
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mircea_popescu ascii_field i think it's because for a while they added new keys in batches ? [15:02]
mircea_popescu and re the pyx thing : argentina had a very aspirational relationship with england. kinda why the faulkland war was such a big deal, sort-of like rambunctious kid going after dad, in a sense. [15:04]
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mircea_popescu << from the lulz department [15:06]
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mircea_popescu "To add insult to injury, despite the emails containing references to the aforementioned website and key, the following Microsoft announcements on July 10 and 11 were actually signed by the key 0xF0B7406D which is not referenced as a key used for current Microsoft announcements. This key actually does contain a small number of signatures from external users, but as with 0xA92965F2 none from any Microsoft employee. As t [15:06]
mircea_popescu o whether the key is authentic your guess is still as good as mine." [15:06]
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trinque mircea_popescu: ran into your hierarchy of needs article by way of pete. interesting to note that at the top of maslow's was this vaguely communist "self transcendence" idea, whereas at the top of yours, the man's concept of self seems to engulf others. [15:26]
mircea_popescu entierly unsurprising huh. [15:26]
trinque what struck me is how on-point maslow's propaganda is, the exact opposite of what it should be, not some arbitrary other thing [15:27]
trinque yeah, not at all suprising [15:27]
mircea_popescu right. [15:27]
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jurov so must have highligh off :D [17:18]
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WolfGoethe anyone think bitcoin peer to peer trading has alot of room for growth? [17:22]
trinque WolfGoethe: seems you do, so how? [17:29]
jurov WolfGoethe for me it's much better to trade on davout's exchange [17:29]
WolfGoethe davouts ? url ? [17:29]
jurov [17:29]
WolfGoethe for example. taking to the next level. like grubhub for money [17:30]
jurov i'm not very keen on exchanging bitcoins on streets with anyone [17:30]
jurov and exposing my personal data/location to snatchers [17:30]
trinque WolfGoethe: what would the next level be? [17:31]
WolfGoethe proper peer to peer is online only. using bitcoin as the lubricant between fiancial instruments like bank deposits, wire, paypal my cash, prepaid cards, western union , domestic intnational methods etc.. and all currencies [17:32]
WolfGoethe an escrow service dressed up for the mainstream so people can hustle with their financial tools and make money trading bitcoins etc.. [17:32]
jurov that usually makes the second problem worse [17:32]
WolfGoethe not really. i do it pretty anon right now... as opposed to coinbase and circle who know everything about me, other traders don;t care [17:33]
WolfGoethe i stay anon [17:33]
WolfGoethe should give folks the option to verify if they really want to for trust's sake etc.. i am sure pro traders won't mind [17:33]
WolfGoethe guess no one here is into that tho [17:34]
trinque you have to clearly define your proposal before anyone can be "into it" [17:34]
jurov WolfGoethe how do you decide if counterparty is legit? [17:34]
WolfGoethe reputation system is key [17:35]
WolfGoethe one based on positive volume and not negative. just like ebay [17:36]
WolfGoethe such a market should take care to put out video guides for each payment method trade [17:36]
WolfGoethe essentially crowd sourcing the swift network to the people. let them be the on and off ramps [17:36]
WolfGoethe my bros r working on such a project and I have really been thinking about it [17:37]
trinque reputation system should be distinct from any particular application [17:37]
trinque this is why we have the WoT [17:37]
WolfGoethe trinque that's not realsitic, decentralizing things like that is another huge project, cannot mvp such a thing. ebay has their own internal system for 20 years, works [17:37]
jurov it's completely unrealistic or just huge? can't be both [17:39]
trinque this design-by-condescension thing isn't something I get behind; that "the people" can't understand a WoT... who cares [17:39]
trinque either they can and therefore could use one distinct from an applcation, or they can't and neither works [17:40]
trinque this pressuposes that you want everyone at the table, which I don't. [17:40]
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mircea_popescu WolfGoethe it's kinda funny that someone feels compelled to pitch this sort of retardation here about every quarter. [17:50]
mircea_popescu in any case, a) ebay hasn't been around for 20 years, b) 20 years is only a long time because you're too young to be "thinking about things" and c) the notion that ebay's abomination works... AAA plus would do thinks again. [17:51]
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* ascii_field using ebay for 17 yrs now [17:54]
ascii_field before that - as a boy - was buying/selling junk on usenet [17:54]
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ascii_field ebay was an improvement on the latter. [17:54]
mircea_popescu a webification in any case. aol-for-usenet-trades. [17:55]
mircea_popescu afaik they only got out of the mtgox business ("collectibles") cca 2005 or someshit. [17:55]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: the payment thing was the mega-feature [17:55]
ascii_field not having to go to shops, get 'money orders' cut, and have some semblance of insurance - appealed to people [17:55]
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* ascii_field only ever used it for (usually, rare) electronics [17:56]
mircea_popescu i can see it. [17:56]
ascii_field ebay works well for getting 'golden toilets' for their actual market price vs the usg tentacular price [17:57]
ascii_field e.g., lightly used 'eizo' lcd for 500 instead of 1500 [17:57]
ascii_field (usd) [17:57]
ascii_field virtually all of my hardware was purchased through ebay. [17:58]
ascii_field more or less a total monopoly with respect to what i use it for. [17:59]
mircea_popescu speaking of useless "platform"... [18:01]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell mike_c yo, want a fiverr acct ? prolly got a coupla hundred bucks in it. [18:01]
gribble The operation succeeded. [18:01]
mircea_popescu shit's more expensive to use than heroin. [18:01]
ascii_field incidentally, this is why i hoard hardware - because supply chain is so hit-and-miss [18:03]
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chetty the issue with ebay,paypal etc. is they can and do close and freeze accounts anytime they feel like it [18:05]
chetty much like banks these days :P [18:05]
ascii_field chetty: this typically happens only to interesting people. [18:06]
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mircea_popescu ascii_field similarly, the "reputation system" works perfectly for anyone not using it. [18:07]
ascii_field the 'buy and sell only rare things' heuristic - perhaps accidentally - more or less eliminates scammers, in my experience [18:08]
ascii_field esp. when the rare things in question are not 'collectible' idiocies but obscure components [18:09]
ascii_field essentially, market 'too small to scam' [18:09]
mircea_popescu i can see it. [18:10]
ascii_field from my point of view, the whole rest of ebay is dross [18:10]
mircea_popescu which is why from my point of view the whole thing is dross. i don't buy the stuff you're talking about and why wouldn't i want to be in a shop. [18:11]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: afaik you do buy it (pre-08 pc parts, etc) but through meatwot suppliers [18:12]
mircea_popescu it all flows from the whole "we can't ~private~ message if we don't have a private relationship" thing. da fuck would i be doing on "online marketplace", dunno anyone there. [18:13]
ascii_field but, for example, ebay may well become the only practical source for amd cpu where i live, once amd finally sinks [18:13]
ascii_field recall my experience trying to buy items on otc ? [18:13]
mircea_popescu amusingly : the normal cellphone "sunk". in the us. it's amply abundant and vastlyt supplied in the real world tho. [18:14]
ascii_field there is not sufficient 'mass' there for the kind of things i buy. [18:14]
mircea_popescu samsung makes some pretty excellent ones, recent model too [18:14]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: they are not entirely unobtainable in usa. just, again, have to buy online. [18:14]
ascii_field the shops only supply items 'for the cattle' - that is, most common-as-dirt and aggressively spamvertized [18:15]
mircea_popescu jit = shit. [18:15]
ascii_field aha. [18:16]
ascii_field virtually all of my tools, incidentally, come from ebay and for most of my life i could not have obtained them anywhere else. [18:17]
ascii_field (by 'from ebay' meaning, of course, brokered by ebay.) [18:17]
mircea_popescu or properly said, Жит = Шит. [18:18]
ascii_field l0lwut [18:18]
mircea_popescu :D [18:18]
mircea_popescu eggog! [18:18]
ascii_field my fave abuse: самшит (Buxus sempervirens) ~= 'someshit' [18:19]
jurov what's jit? just in time? [18:19]
mircea_popescu yeah [18:19]
mircea_popescu ascii_field in spanish, "el boj comun". [18:20]
ascii_field aha it [18:20]
mod6 i think the only thing I've ever gotten off ebay was an UltraSPARC II box [18:21]
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ascii_field << example of item i bought on ebay. where the fuck else is it even physically possible to get one of these? sotheby's? it took 5+ yrs of searching, too [18:26]
assbot Parallel Port Interface to the Private Eye P4 Head-Mounted Display ... ( ) [18:26]
ascii_field (subject being the display, not the plug) [18:26]
ascii_field or this: [18:27]
assbot Loper OS » MicroWriter Redux. ... ( ) [18:27]
mircea_popescu and now we understand alf's real tether to the mordor lands. [18:28]
mircea_popescu he needs omidyar. [18:28]
ascii_field l0l not like it doesn't work in mongolia [18:28]
ascii_field i even bought items from ru, they came in wooden crates [18:28]
mircea_popescu it works FROM mongolia. [18:29]
mircea_popescu not TO. [18:29]
mod6 haha. wow, did you ever actually try to get used to using that alf? [18:29]
ascii_field mod6: using what [18:29]
jurov yea, nobody ships to mongolia [18:29]
BingoBoingo it works FROM mongolia. << I've had to use my USian powers to ask sellers questions potential buyers could not ask because they were outside USia [18:29]
* ascii_field saw a 747 marked 'ups' in b-ar airport. so perhaps even there. [18:30]
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mircea_popescu by the way, lemme recount the fourth crusade for the benefit of the awareness-raising crowd-sourced crowd. [18:30]
mod6 The "Private Eye"? [18:30]
jurov ascii_field: UPS ships everywere, but the vendors don't want to [18:30]
ascii_field jurov: most vendors will work with you if you're willing to pay the actual cost [18:31]
ascii_field i certainly do [18:31]
mod6 the thing is pretty neat [18:33]
ascii_field as far as i'm concerned, historically, ebay is just this gizmo that shaves a zero off the price of the costliest things i buy. so i was never moved to care whether it is run by hitler or fueled with baby seal juice etc. [18:34]
chetty UPS ships to very happy customs agents in many places [18:34]
ascii_field hence the pogo suitcase, aha [18:35]
ascii_field i still don't understand why molestation in the post but not in the airport [18:35]
ascii_field why is one plundered and the other spared [18:35]
chetty lazy [18:35]
ascii_field but in the post - not lazy ? [18:35]
ascii_field where ups plane unloads - not lazy? but where human plane - lazy ? [18:36]
ascii_field how does this work [18:36]
mod6 To read about all those other people you’ve got to buy the Professional version or even the Enterprise Edition. << lol [18:36]
chetty walking out of work with a box or two is a lot easier than a yard of paperwork in an airport [18:36]
chetty and you dont even have to process a box you never saw :P [18:37]
jurov i have long time ago won an ipod mini from ibm. ofc they sent it by post and it was clear case for customs how much such ipod costs and asked a tax [18:38]
jurov if i imported it on my bosy, what are they to do? [18:38]
jurov *body [18:38]
mircea_popescu chetty> UPS ships to very happy customs agents in many places << heh very much that [18:39]
mircea_popescu ascii_field you do not understand contemporary "man" [18:39]
mircea_popescu he's a thief, but not a robber. [18:40]
mircea_popescu he's an onanist, not a rapist. [18:40]
mircea_popescu he likes children, not women. pictures, not meat. [18:40]
mircea_popescu words, not things. certificates, not knowledge. [18:40]
ascii_field in other words lazy ? [18:40]
mircea_popescu it's a meta problem. [18:40]
mircea_popescu no, in other words mentally ill. [18:40]
ascii_field laziness or cowardice - or both ? [18:40]
mircea_popescu no, simple insanity. [18:40]
mircea_popescu and this is set to aggravate, by the way. physical presence becoming rarer and rarer and expensiver and expensiver, the necessary result of the interplay of its rarity with the above mental condition is that [18:42]
mircea_popescu well... in effect we'll all get super powers. like literal gods of mythology. "if im here everything works" [18:42]
mircea_popescu like the keeper of a bunch of slaves. [18:42]
* ascii_field is a bit confused here [18:42]
mircea_popescu say on an ancient galley. [18:42]
ascii_field physical presence expensive ? [18:42]
ascii_field how/why? [18:42]
mircea_popescu not having to go to shops <<< [18:43]
mircea_popescu what is that ? go queue at the dmv. why not ? [18:43]
ascii_field going to a shop merely to get a piece of paper is dumb, period [18:43]
ascii_field i no longer have to queue at 'dmv' either [18:43]
ascii_field (driver license sent in the post) [18:43]
mircea_popescu "my being here is more expensive than the whole fucking shop would cost to build" [18:43]
* ascii_field doesn't (as far as knows) have super power. possibly one has to be mircea_popescu weight class to notice this effect. [18:45]
mircea_popescu give it time. [18:47]
mircea_popescu and for the promised fourth crusade story : [18:47]
mircea_popescu so, I. a bunch of militarily powerful, intellectually naive westerners made an army to go beat up the muslims and take jerusalem. [18:47]
mircea_popescu II.a. random byzantine (militarily worthless, intellectually overpowering) entity convinces them to help him "recover" his "stolen" throne, as if the byzantines ever did anything else or anyone had a valid claim, or the possibility of a valid claim even existed in their world. [18:47]
mircea_popescu II.b. and further promised them the "pearl in heavens", a very classical device in greek gay drama (since at least the days of darius, this empty promises as a path to military glory. the greeks invented "fake it till you make it") [18:47]
mircea_popescu III. they take adrianople, and their presence alters "reality" as the greeks perceive it. so their guy is named co-emperor. [18:47]
mircea_popescu IV. the "crowdsource" revolts. this alters "reality" once more, their guy is promptly poisoned. [18:47]
mircea_popescu V. they decide to conquer the fucking city. because by now they've got an inkling of the pure filth the greeks are. so they do, and burn it, and cauterize the place. [18:47]
mircea_popescu moral : democracy is for the mentally ill ; the rewards of democracy are rape and arson, often enough delivered with the same stick. [18:47]
ascii_field promised them the "pearl in heavens" << aka 'jam tomorrow' [18:49]
mircea_popescu if dandolo had any sense they'd have plowed and salted constantinople, and sold all the women to the turks. [18:49]
mircea_popescu ascii_field there was this mildly famous gay boy of athens whose name escapes me at the moment, literally got a whole trireme detachment on unbacked promises of great pay (from persia iirc ?) and well... there they sat. [18:51]
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ascii_field eco had a pretty good piece set in 4th crusade [18:53]
mircea_popescu antonio doria, before being cut down by the french at crecy, was a rather successful genoese pirate. the pirate captain's regime collapsed over his (and others) failure to pay. [18:53]
mircea_popescu (well, he tried to pay in debased coinage, anyway. caused a revolt) [18:54]
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mircea_popescu if i were younger and more bored (really, less involved with actual things) i might consider rewriting the history of the world from the only sane perspective : as the endless "interplay" between two types of people : the sane, and the imperceptibly mentally ill. [18:55]
mircea_popescu the former try to make things, the latter try to pass of their pretenses. [18:55]
mircea_popescu this is pretty much all history to date. [18:55]
ascii_field imperceptibly ?! l0l [18:55]
mircea_popescu yeah. [18:56]
mircea_popescu nobody thinks of, say, obama as mentally ill. [18:56]
mircea_popescu he "seems fine". [18:56]
ascii_field only because 'running the asylum' [18:56]
mircea_popescu well... you know, the junkie is also imperceptibly addicted. [18:56]
ascii_field to a sane future folk, he would seem as frothingly-mad as chingis khan seems to today's liberasts [18:57]
mircea_popescu except the khan seems coldly sane. [18:57]
ascii_field to the sane. [18:57]
mircea_popescu hence the problem [18:57]
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mircea_popescu in short : those who do are dull. "i do not wish to think about these things, i have better stuff to do!!1". those who don't are insane. but who's to notice ? they themselves can't, the others can't be bothered. so... imperceptibly insane. [18:59]
ascii_field mircea_popescu: ... consider rewriting the history of the world from the only sane perspective : as the endless "interplay" between two types of people : the sane, and the imperceptibly mentally ill << nietzsche, or, far better, limonov [18:59]
mircea_popescu neither of them actually played the gibbon. [18:59]
ascii_field right [18:59]
ascii_field would need serious mad hermit, to pull this one off [19:00]
mircea_popescu actually, hopefully we end up in prison, like the early soviet leadership. i'm gonna write a dictionary and a history of the world. [19:00]
mircea_popescu by the time i'm done, it's time to start butchering the powers that used to be. [19:00]
mircea_popescu check it out, my life all planned out. [19:00]
ascii_field l0l [19:00]
* ascii_field doesn't expect to be taken prisoner alive, but wishes mircea_popescu a jolly good meinkampfing [19:01]
mircea_popescu surely. [19:01]
williamdunne mein bit [19:01]
mircea_popescu tell you what, there's not going to be any "anastasias" out of the current imperial family. [19:01]
mircea_popescu i fully intent to ejaculate down the cut throat of every single female involved. [19:01]
ascii_field ashtrays, lampshades, aha [19:01]
williamdunne Lovely image [19:02]
mircea_popescu do things right for once. [19:02]
ascii_field the alt.tasteless term of art, iirc, was 'to squick' [19:02]
mircea_popescu honestly, my greatest regret in this life so far is that ~100k romanian ex-various state things survived the year 1990. [19:03]
ascii_field of what consequence are the muppets ? [19:03]
mircea_popescu you have no aesthetic appreciation. [19:03]
ascii_field it's rather like cutting up enemy cannon after a war, no ? [19:03]
mircea_popescu yup. [19:03]
ascii_field the cannon do not will anything [19:03]
mircea_popescu i did that, too. [19:03]
mircea_popescu i also break keyboards. [19:03]
mircea_popescu salt the fucking byzantium. after the war. [19:04]
ascii_field now this, on the whole - yes. [19:04]
mircea_popescu women off to tadjikistan, milk goats in chains for the rest of their lives [19:04]
ascii_field !s hear the lamentations [19:04]
assbot 1 results for 'hear the lamentations' : [19:04]
mircea_popescu and now, for contrast, i give you shamir. [19:05]
* ascii_field wonders if he missed something re: shamir [19:05]
mircea_popescu [19:05]
assbot Logged on 27-04-2015 20:04:21; danielpbarron: [19:05]
ascii_field last i recall, he was turned out of usa [19:05]
ascii_field is there a transcript ? [19:06]
mircea_popescu i should prolly have one made, come to think about it. [19:07]
mircea_popescu gimme a minute [19:07]
mircea_popescu anyway, watching the derp go about how "we need regulation" suddenly made me comprehend why exactly von meck actually belonged beheaded. [19:08]
mircea_popescu brilliant guy, inescapably stupid. what are you gonna do ? can't empower stupid. off to the gulag with him. [19:08]
ascii_field von meck ? [19:09]
mircea_popescu you know, the "wrecker" who was "trying to make the train tracks run down faster" [19:09]
ascii_field aha that one [19:09]
mircea_popescu framing the discussion in terms of intellectual ability is completely missing the salient points. nobody ever gets offed for being either academically smart or stupid, it's orthogonal. [19:11]
mircea_popescu the insane can either live in the camps nor not live at all, that's the problem there. sanity, not intelligence. [19:11]
ascii_field except - sometimes, the sane - to the camps. [19:13]
mircea_popescu find me this happening. [19:14]
ascii_field say 2020. [19:15]
mircea_popescu gotta be in the past eh ? [19:15]
ascii_field ... 1937? [19:15]
mircea_popescu who ? [19:15]
mircea_popescu who was sane and in a camp in 1937 ? the jews ?! [19:15]
ascii_field pretty much everyone interesting minus epsilon in su [19:16]
mircea_popescu doing what, sanely waiting for the messiah ? (the real one this time!) [19:16]
mircea_popescu everyone interesting was, sadly, not sane, in the su. [19:16]
ascii_field ok i'll bite: [19:16]
mircea_popescu the sane were pretty much either dead under the white flag, or else involved in subverting the red. [19:16]
ascii_field what'd a 'sane' korolev have looked like? [19:16]
mircea_popescu at the time ? mebbe hughes ? [19:18]
ascii_field describe hypothetical mechanism whereby he could have hughesed. [19:18]
mircea_popescu there is no requirement that graph be arbitrarily traversable. [19:18]
mircea_popescu even the translation is more than can be promised [19:19]
ascii_field probably sikorsky is better example [19:19]
mircea_popescu i'm really not enough of an expert in the field to be all that confident. [19:19]
ascii_field my observation is that escape artistry and, e.g., rocketry, are - at best - orthogonal abilities [19:21]
mircea_popescu sanity and intelligence are unrelated, yes. [19:21]
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asciilifeform !up ascii_field [19:25]
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ascii_field unrelated: that sks key mega-dump is in a ludicrous format - .gpg binary turds with 10,000s of pubkeys in each [19:25]
ascii_field will have to write something to cut this up [19:25]
ascii_field unless someone has just such a thing handy [19:26]
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jurov gpg cannot use/export it directly? [19:29]
jurov also unrelated: today was btrfs day (drive with few subvolumes times tens of snapshots filled, i have embarked on some cleanup) [19:31]
mircea_popescu gl [19:31]
jurov kernel oopses are apparently completely sop [19:31]
mircea_popescu must be because of cpanel. [19:32]
jurov and atime/relatime + periodic snapshotting (like suse does by default) causes metadata to grow out of any bounds [19:33]
mircea_popescu as trinque will explain, this is a solved problem : [19:34]
mircea_popescu just make a record of it [19:34]
* mircea_popescu crowns himself as the one true troll of b-a. so there. [19:34]
jurov hahaha i got this idea you know [19:34]
jurov to make fuse filesystem to track atimes so that brtfs needs not to bother [19:35]
jurov indeed making a record of it [19:35]
mircea_popescu win. [19:35]
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jurov oh and I forgot this gem: [19:44]
assbot Bug 83011 – BUG_ON should be eradicated from the btrfs source tree ... ( ) [19:44]
jurov btrfs docs all but say that it obsoletes partition tables [19:45]
jurov you're supposed to have One pool with One filesystem [19:45]
jurov so if something happens to it, system does not deserve to go on anymore [19:46]
BingoBoingo Euthanizing Filesystem? [19:47]
jurov more like... if it commits suicide, better take everything with it [19:50]
BingoBoingo Ah, jihadi filesystem [19:51]
jurov ^this [19:51]
jurov loks like hans reiser should be released and properly armed [19:52]
mircea_popescu give the man a tank huh [19:57]
jurov just to be fair, all was resolved without data loss [20:01]
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scoopbot_revived News! Shamir's derpage URL: [20:12]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform ^ transcript [20:12]
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scoopbot_revived News! Google Password Alert Already Subverted URL: [20:22]
BingoBoingo ^Some google derpage [20:25]
mircea_popescu if(document.getElementById("warning_banner")) { document.getElementById("warning_banner").remove(); [20:26]
mircea_popescu heh [20:26]
BingoBoingo Seriously.remove() [20:29]
mircea_popescu [20:30]
BingoBoingo !b 6 [20:31]
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ben_vulpes where's my log summary gurl [20:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9808 @ 0.0002557 = 2.5079 BTC [+] [20:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28800 @ 0.00024825 = 7.1496 BTC [-] [20:46]
ben_vulpes << wao [20:47]
assbot Logged on 29-04-2015 03:10:26; mircea_popescu: << check it out, apparently moore law stopped a decade ago. [20:47]
williamdunne Must've accidentally trashed the email alerting me of it [20:56]
williamdunne Did the council of elders agree to this? [20:56]
ben_vulpes where's your THz chip, williamdunne? [20:58]
ben_vulpes i'd like one just like it. [20:58]
williamdunne I'm using it to mine bitcoin in iceland [20:58]
williamdunne Its srsbznz [20:58]
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williamdunne >Requests that you disable adblock [21:05]
williamdunne >Displays adverts that play noise in the background.. on a video sit [21:05]
williamdunne *site [21:06]
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ben_vulpes For example, there was a famous hack that provided a means of (1) removing a cons cell from a freelist, (2) updating the freelist, and (3) branching if the freelist was exhausted to the GC... in *one instruction*. << that *is* cool [21:12]
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ben_vulpes "the difference between theory and practice is, uh, larger in practice than in theory" << paul graham! whatta dood [21:16]
ben_vulpes "It was solid enough to be a serious system that had real clients who depended on it." << oh for those days, and those clients [21:18]
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BingoBoingo Oh, look at this OpenSSH change: "sshd(8): UseDNS now defaults to 'no'. Configurations that match against the client host name (via sshd_config(5) or authorized_keys) may need to re-enable it or convert to matching against addresses." [21:20]
assbot OpenBSD 5.7 ... ( ) [21:20]
mircea_popescu this is a good move neh ? [21:23]
BingoBoingo Yeah, Depreciate all the DNS [21:24]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform : at battle of manzikert, spy to ars aslan : "my sultan, the enemy army is approaching us". ars aslan : "then we are approaching them as well" [21:24]
trinque damn, that's a good quote. [21:25]
mircea_popescu guy's name is actually alp arslan, upon research. i misremembered. [21:26]
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ben_vulpes BingoBoingo: "deprecate" [21:28]
ben_vulpes non? [21:29]
trinque that's the one [21:29]
BingoBoingo Eh, happens [21:29]
ben_vulpes << "so, how's his english?" "pretty good, there's just this thing that happens where he occasionally says something that sounds entirely wrong and then the conversation moves on, and five minutes later I ask about it and turns out to be some throwaway joke in romanian or french or latin." [21:30]
assbot Logged on 29-04-2015 15:02:01; mircea_popescu: except my usage is np [21:30]
ben_vulpes << "law of leaky abstractions" hurts so much more in these scenarios... [21:32]
assbot Logged on 29-04-2015 15:11:30; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu forgot e) sane person adds kludge to enable some semblance of civilization to function, creating schizoid split and opening would that bleeds complexity [21:32]
ben_vulpes << iirc, my answer was "dunno, let's try" [21:33]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: graham << was that from the 't' article ? [21:33]
assbot Logged on 29-04-2015 15:32:11; mircea_popescu: at any rate, THIS is why i ask people "well, can you do it on a cpanel box" well before. [21:33]
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asciilifeform ben_vulpes: he did pull a normal box out of his sleeve later. it is now operational. [21:34]
mike_c mircea_popescu: thanks, but can't imagine what I would do with it. maybe ascii wants it :) [21:34]
assbot ... ( ) [21:34]
asciilifeform mike_c: ugh, i don't need spamchickens for anything whatsoever [21:34]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: aha [21:35]
mike_c he'll design your circuits for you! for $5! [21:35]
ben_vulpes benefits of complaining, i suppose [21:35]
ben_vulpes dood [21:35]
ben_vulpes i could have tacos delivered for like 4 months with that [21:35]
mike_c hehe [21:35]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: i have slade's 't programming language' here. mega-book. recommended. [21:36]
ben_vulpes perhaps when you come visit, bring it for an extended loan if you're done [21:36]
asciilifeform it's for historical aficionados / lisp makers only, must warn [21:36]
asciilifeform does not describe a living animal [21:36]
* ben_vulpes shrugs [21:36]
ben_vulpes all i am actually good for is software archaeology after all [21:37]
* ben_vulpes considers the eerie parallel with his mothers work [21:37]
asciilifeform what was it ? [21:37]
mike_c fiverr call girl: [21:38]
assbot ... ( ) [21:38]
asciilifeform how much of this exists anywhere other than the ads ? [21:38]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: "cultural anthropology" [21:38]
ben_vulpes as far as i can figure, guesses (liberally sprinked with CYA) about what people did, extrapolated from their middens [21:39]
cazalla i wonder how much tablet traffic is demmed mobile [21:40]
* ben_vulpes goes for another, smaller glass of chablis [21:40]
* contrapumpkin is now known as copumpkin [21:40]
cazalla mt [21:40]
ben_vulpes << haw well now i hafta read it [21:41]
assbot Logged on 29-04-2015 16:08:37; mats: special appearance by brendafdez [21:41]
asciilifeform achtung, panzers: [21:42]
asciilifeform (in case this was not clear from yesterday's thread) please -do- throw keys to . [21:42]
assbot Submit a GPG Public Key | Phuctor ... ( ) [21:42]
asciilifeform as many as you like. [21:42]
trinque asciilifeform: ones that have already been phuctored or only new ones? [21:43]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes lolwut ? [21:43]
trinque I recall chatter about whether the db was getting imported [21:43]
asciilifeform trinque: ones that already have been, can be retested (push button on the page) [21:43]
trinque ok [21:43]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: what what? [21:43]
asciilifeform trinque: but otherwise, any [21:43]
asciilifeform (it will tell you if key has been seen before, also) [21:43]
asciilifeform or if individual moduli have been [21:43]
asciilifeform ... or their factors. [21:44]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes meanwhile i figured it out. you were quoting teh fox missus [21:45]
ben_vulpes close, but other meat [21:45]
mircea_popescu mike_c this, imo, sums up the general utility of "revolutionary websites". people don't want accounts on them even if given away with 200 dollars worth of credit attached. [21:46]
asciilifeform i can imagine that -someone- wants [21:46]
mircea_popescu because they actually are a much larger damage than that. sort-of like insanity. [21:46]
asciilifeform just not me [21:46]
mircea_popescu "would you like aids for 200 bucks ?" "noty" [21:46]
cazalla tyrone is the best fiverr merchant btw [21:47]
assbot Tyrone helps you check all your privileges. - YouTube ... ( ) [21:47]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform or mike_c or anyone sane in the fucking head. or over the age of 30. [21:47]
asciilifeform i don't need 200 worth of caltrops either [21:47]
asciilifeform doesn't mean they're entirely useless [21:47]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform how about half caltrops half bleach [21:47]
ben_vulpes i can put caltrops to work [21:47]
ben_vulpes and bleach [21:47]
asciilifeform now that - must. [21:47]
asciilifeform two tastes that go great together (TM) (R) [21:48]
ben_vulpes heh [21:48]
ben_vulpes yeah [21:48]
ben_vulpes this asshat on the road today rolled up behind myself and some staff on bikes, HONKED LOUDLY, and then moved into the (empty) oncoming traffic lane to pass us [21:48]
trinque ben_vulpes: was probably me, sorry! [21:48]
trinque :D [21:48]
ben_vulpes when i caught up to him at the stop light at the top of the hill, he had his phone out and was recording my endless tirade of abuse [21:48]
ben_vulpes naw ive seen your car it pollutes less and you're not nearly as fat as this old sack of shit [21:49]
trinque lol [21:49]
mircea_popescu achtung, panzers: << dawg i thought you were going to PUT THE ARCHIVE THROUGH IT ALREADY!!!1eleventyeleven [21:49]
ben_vulpes yeah where are the bunk keys hm? [21:49]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: << see also [21:49]
assbot Logged on 30-04-2015 22:20:33; ascii_field: unrelated: that sks key mega-dump is in a ludicrous format - .gpg binary turds with 10,000s of pubkeys in each [21:49]
ben_vulpes arbeit macht frei [21:50]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes is volunteering for this chore ? [21:50]
ben_vulpes naw i have vino at hand and girls waiting at home [21:50]
mircea_popescu yeah, he is. he's volunteering you. [21:50]
asciilifeform l0l [21:50]
ben_vulpes the shop is empty so i'm drinking and naked [21:51]
ben_vulpes well not naked but close [21:51]
mircea_popescu o.O [21:51]
mircea_popescu people can be naked in the us ? [21:51]
asciilifeform why ben_vulpes is sitting in an empty shop ? [21:51]
ben_vulpes I'M DOING LAUNDRY OKAY [21:51]
mircea_popescu i thought you folk shower in the bag. [21:51]
asciilifeform rather than at home where there are chicks [21:51]
ben_vulpes because there are two monitors and one of the chicks isn't there yet and this wine isn't going to drink itself nor these logs read themselves [21:51]
asciilifeform 'tell mistress you're with wife, tell wife you're with mistress, go to lab, get some werk done' (tm) ? [21:52]
ben_vulpes p. much. [21:52]
ben_vulpes first the boxen, then and only then the chixxen [21:52]
mircea_popescu what do you call a wino in portland ? [21:52]
mircea_popescu a vino. [21:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00025176 = 5.8408 BTC [+] {2} [21:52]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: electronics hack night has been scheduled [21:52]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes built his adapter ? [21:52]
ben_vulpes nah, i have delegated the adapter to be brought to my face [21:53]
ben_vulpes myriad hackers are salivating over rocket [21:53]
ben_vulpes rocketplane* [21:53]
asciilifeform l0l essentially a dollar-store part [21:53]
asciilifeform (were it made in the usual way) [21:54]
ben_vulpes but this comes with provenance [21:54]
ben_vulpes i trust you, they trust me [21:54]
asciilifeform incidentally i ordered a tray baked today. [21:54]
ben_vulpes no microcontrollers on the board... [21:54]
asciilifeform (more detail in coming broadcast) [21:54]
ben_vulpes << i actually get visuals of mircea_popescu's face when i see ":D" from him nao [21:55]
assbot Logged on 29-04-2015 19:27:52; mircea_popescu: << sometimes it fixes itself :D [21:55]
mircea_popescu lol. [21:55]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: seems like everyone i've spoken to thinks i oughta have bought the bayonet, luger, helmet, etc. [21:57]
cazalla <<< but adblock is theft! [21:57]
assbot Logged on 01-05-2015 00:00:54; williamdunne: >Requests that you disable adblock [21:57]
ben_vulpes << uh can i get a copy of the source and possibly some docs? [21:57]
assbot Logged on 30-04-2015 00:01:59; Pierre_Rochard: pacioli accounting software preview: [21:57]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: sorry, do not follow [21:57]
asciilifeform at the flea market [21:57]
ben_vulpes ahaha [21:57]
ben_vulpes well what do they know [21:57]
ben_vulpes "more intertia is better!" [21:57]
mircea_popescu that's why bigger penis is better rite ? [21:58]
asciilifeform what i wonder is whether there are any 'krauts' left there or merely their gear. [21:58]
ben_vulpes and how much of that gear is even genuinely kraut [21:58]
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Pierre_Rochard ben_vulpes: docs are forthcoming, I’ve added you to the repo: [21:59]
assbot ... ( ) [21:59]
ben_vulpes ah jeez [21:59]
ben_vulpes what have i done [21:59]
ben_vulpes [22:00]
assbot 12 House of Bamboo by charlottejapp | Free Listening on SoundCloud ... ( ) [22:00]
cazalla <<< soz but i do this, get off the road, can' t expect everyone to drive 30km/ph in a 60 zone because muh bikes [22:00]
assbot Logged on 01-05-2015 00:43:28; ben_vulpes: this asshat on the road today rolled up behind myself and some staff on bikes, HONKED LOUDLY, and then moved into the (empty) oncoming traffic lane to pass us [22:00]
ben_vulpes "pick yourself a kitten and listen to a platter...that rocks!" [22:00]
mircea_popescu [22:00]
assbot Der Königgrätzer Marsch - Berlin Tattoo - YouTube [22:00]
cazalla oncoming traffic lane is fine to use as an overtaking lane too, law allows for it but even without that.. [22:01]
ben_vulpes no but the point is that the lane was entirely empty, so why fucking honk [22:01]
ben_vulpes just go around. [22:02]
* asciilifeform on narrow streets often wonders how much fuel enviro-bicyclists waste by slowing down columns of motor [22:02]
cazalla ben_vulpes, i dunno but most cyclists are passive aggressive pricks may as well join in with the honking [22:02]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: probably makes things better by reducing the "GO FAST NOW BRAKE AND WASTE ALL KE NOW HURRY UP AND ACCELERATE MYRIAD TONNES OF PLASTIC AGAIN" dynamic [22:02]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes nobody actually likes hipsters. [22:02]
mircea_popescu go by atomic submarine helicopter or go home. [22:03]
asciilifeform !b 2 [22:04]
assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( ) [22:04]
asciilifeform submacopter. [22:04]
ben_vulpes did you duct tape the submarine part to the heli part? [22:04]
mircea_popescu ITS ATOMIC [22:04]
mircea_popescu self-welds. [22:04]
ben_vulpes he's been derping on cpanel, i can see. [22:04]
asciilifeform bwwwwtzzz. (7Hz 'brown note' speaker on any decent atomic dirigible.) [22:05]
asciilifeform !s brown note [22:05]
assbot 2 results for 'brown note' : [22:05]
mircea_popescu afaik brown note for us legion etrangere is "isis" [22:05]
ben_vulpes Pierre_Rochard: ever derp on "Manager"? [22:05]
ben_vulpes it's what we use at sj - can be beaten into whatever absurd demand i make of $bizpartner [22:06]
Pierre_Rochard ben_vulpes: nope, hadn’t heard of it, checking it out now [22:06]
Pierre_Rochard looks sleek [22:06]
ben_vulpes << you probably grok entirely the advantage of that "tiny little keyboard" over touchscreens [22:07]
assbot Logged on 30-04-2015 13:42:00; mircea_popescu: on that litthe shitty keyboard ? [22:07]
mircea_popescu sure. [22:08]
ben_vulpes << asciilifeform: the lotto tixx! [22:08]
assbot Logged on 30-04-2015 14:12:57; mircea_popescu: because that's what #5 does, practically : it offers a model to explain and understand the otherwise insane, and otherwise never explain, luxury behaviour. [22:08]
asciilifeform #5 aka 'the gods smile' [22:09]
asciilifeform but afaik most veblenism comes from misguided attempts to sate #1-4. [22:10]
ben_vulpes can i skip the whole WolfeGoethe thread? [22:10]
mircea_popescu you prolly read it before. [22:11]
ben_vulpes << heh. seems familiar, but the details are new [22:11]
assbot ... ( ) [22:11]
ben_vulpes kudos a danielpbarron [22:11]
Pierre_Rochard ben_vulpes: not seeing how to customize manager, looks proprietary [22:12]
ben_vulpes oh entirely [22:13]
ben_vulpes this however is how management works [22:13]
ben_vulpes "beat that thing into submission and deliver what i've asked for" [22:13]
asciilifeform << missing element 'atomic dirigible' [22:13]
assbot ... ( ) [22:13]
danielpbarron i didn't make the thing / found on twitter [22:14]
mircea_popescu ahaha "unicorn polyamory" ? [22:14]
asciilifeform l0l what even. [22:14]
mircea_popescu gtfo, reddit. you don't get to classify the things other people do. [22:14]
Pierre_Rochard I’ll definitely be taking pointers from it, but end goal is tight integration with bitcoin wallets & APIs, and leaning on pgsql as much as possible. That’s what made greenfield a necessity [22:14]
Pierre_Rochard ^ ben_vulpes [22:15]
ben_vulpes Pierre_Rochard: nono ofc [22:15]
ben_vulpes asking out of curiosity [22:15]
Pierre_Rochard thanks for the tip though, definitely one of the rare accounting packages I didn’t find immediately revolting [22:15]
ben_vulpes great thing about -assets is the "rewrite everything" option [22:15]
* danielpbarron fits in with the blue rectangle in the top right excluded from the overlapping [22:15]
ben_vulpes it's actually halfway decent [22:15]
ben_vulpes danielpbarron: it's missing the dune/WoT polyamory [22:16]
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ben_vulpes oh hey here's a notion [22:16]
ben_vulpes !s robert jordan [22:16]
assbot 0 results for 'robert jordan' : [22:16]
ben_vulpes aha [22:16]
ben_vulpes epic mega series [22:16]
asciilifeform it is also missing the reddit category [22:16]
ben_vulpes yeah where is the voluntary celibacy box? [22:17]
asciilifeform 'voluntary-compulsory', to borrow a sovietism [22:17]
mircea_popescu lol [22:17]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron i can vouch for the fact that the classification's nonsensical by the plain observation that i'm all over the fucking map. [22:17]
mircea_popescu it looks like the elephant three people found in a dark room. [22:18]
ben_vulpes it's like one of those lolarious meyers briggs thing [22:18]
ben_vulpes anyone with two neurons rubbing together can make it barf whatever rating zhe desire [22:18]
asciilifeform the elephant three people found in a dark room << except that it isn't a whole elephant, but just head, minus tusks, left by poachers [22:18]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform well sure. [22:19]
mircea_popescu there was no integrity promise made at any point. [22:19]
mircea_popescu ""the elephant" they found" [22:19]
mircea_popescu anyway, i will say for the record that all this "typficiation" bullshit, from the ntjx to the mti to everything else is ~strictly~ the result of lazy writing. [22:20]
asciilifeform !s borges encyclopaedia [22:20]
* ben_vulpes shutters lab [22:20]
assbot 2 results for 'borges encyclopaedia' : [22:20]
mircea_popescu harlan e has a piece where he explains how people like hubbard were optimizing their workflow by - for instance - typing on rolls of butcher paper so as to not waste time changing sheets in typewriter [22:20]
ben_vulpes goodnight asshats [22:21]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: scrolling! [22:21]
ben_vulpes aha this one [22:21]
mircea_popescu this exact process is at work here - it becomes much easier to write the sort of pulp cultureless usians call "novels" by proceeding on one of these accounting paradigms [22:21]
* ben_vulpes really parts [22:21]
mircea_popescu practically speaking, commedia de larte [22:21]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: all of it being merely - early manually-cranked shannonizers. [22:21]
mircea_popescu poorly-er done. meanly-er done, actually, in the classical sense of mean ("of mean extraction") [22:22]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform exactly. [22:22]
mircea_popescu so... it's only useful if you're making two cents a word writing "young adult fiction" or whatever other "genre" bullshit, and need shorthand to keep track of your "characters" [22:23]
mircea_popescu of course contemporary usage is unpaid shanonizers (such as, reddit users), increasing the volume and decreasing the cost of their misrepresentations of their own social interactions. [22:24]
mircea_popescu which is technically a step below on the literary scale. i await with bated breath the next step underwater. [22:24]
danielpbarron the author of sex-diagram -> "This is the home of Franklin Veaux, a writer, computer consultant, polyamory and BDSM activist, sex educator, and sometimes amateur photographer. Over the years, I've built a more or less inadvertent Web empire, and this is the page that brings all my various Web sites together." [22:24]
assbot Welcome to! ... ( ) [22:24]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: for some time, i've wondered about earliest surviving example of shannonizer [22:24]
asciilifeform currently i believe it to be athanasius kircher's 'arca musarithmica' [22:24]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you ever read the torah ? [22:24]
asciilifeform sure. nothing directly analogous in there iirc [22:25]
mircea_popescu you gotta be kidding me. [22:25]
asciilifeform [22:25]
assbot Athanasius Kircher. Arca Musarithmica And Many Sound Devices - Digicult | Digital Art, Design and Culture : Digicult | Digital Art, Design and Culture ... ( ) [22:25]
mircea_popescu "and then herpderp had perpmerp who lived to 105 [22:26]
mircea_popescu and then perpmerp had foobar who lived to 103 [22:26]
mircea_popescu and then..." [22:26]
asciilifeform sure, but that's a trivial example [22:26]
mircea_popescu soooo ? [22:26]
asciilifeform no mechanization, even of the 'napier's bones' variety, required. [22:26]
asciilifeform shannonizer necessarily includes some element of automation. [22:26]
asciilifeform (a schizo gibbering idiocy is not a shannonizer) [22:27]
asciilifeform any more than an expert swimmer is by implication a boat. [22:27]
asciilifeform re: this question i am interested in learning who was the first 'sailor' and what was his 'boat'. [22:28]
mircea_popescu hm. [22:28]
mircea_popescu astrology. [22:28]
asciilifeform presently i think it to be kircher. [22:28]
asciilifeform hm now that mircea_popescu mentions astrology, [22:28]
mircea_popescu srsly alf, shanonizing is a very old usage of language. [22:28]
asciilifeform probably the mega-winner of 'earliest' is chinese i-ching. [22:28]
mircea_popescu it drove it, in paralel with expression. [22:29]
asciilifeform (earliest surviving) [22:29]
mircea_popescu language is not the result of a single force, but of two, driving it in that left-right manner of driving splits in wood. [22:29]
mircea_popescu right. [22:29]
mircea_popescu brb [22:29]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu is right about this - i invite readers to look into the basic types of aphasia [22:29]
* asciilifeform also brb [22:29]
* danielpbarron wrote a few I Ching divination pages in javascript [22:30]
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danielpbarron !up bocobit [22:46]
* assbot gives voice to bocobit [22:46]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron isn't that witchcraft ? [22:48]
BingoBoingo For shame, 768 bit RSA key from 2002 [22:50]
assbot Public Key Server -- Get "0xa8f0c01e3330ee4b " ... ( ) [22:50]
danielpbarron not sure what it counts as, but I'm not into that stuff anymore / burned my yarrow stalks and books on i ching and tao te ching etc [22:50]
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danielpbarron and the scripts are not hosted anywhere, although copies may still exist in a backup tar somewhere [22:51]
mircea_popescu Moduli Waiting for Test: 0 / me likes [22:52]
mircea_popescu [23:01]
assbot OkCunt – ... ( ) [23:01]
BingoBoingo lolmail address [23:05]
assbot Welcome | Phuctor ... ( ) [23:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.00024825 = 6.6531 BTC [-] [23:06]
mircea_popescu poor guy [23:10]
mod6 haha [23:11]
* BingoBoingo is braintired, handfeeding phuctor [23:13]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo srsly, script it [23:16]
* assbot removes voice from bocobit [23:16]
mircea_popescu not something to do by hand [23:16]
mircea_popescu scripting is also not hard. curl will do post calls [23:17]
BingoBoingo It's a kind of targeted subset of keys I'm feeding and there aren't too many [23:18]
mircea_popescu aite. [23:19]
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danielpbarron mod6, "The Bitcoin Foundation would like bestow our sincerest thanks and gratitude" << like to* bestow ? [23:49]
mod6 ah derp [23:50]
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mod6 well, at least im consistant. :] looks that way in all of [23:51]
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mod6 'em [23:51]
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mod6 anyway, thanks, i'll update on the next months address. [23:54]
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asciilifeform Moduli Waiting for Test: 0 / me likes << read werker.c to see how works. [23:55]
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decimation < [23:59]
assbot Logged on 30-04-2015 22:03:49; mircea_popescu: brilliant guy, inescapably stupid. what are you gonna do ? can't empower stupid. off to the gulag with him. [23:59]
assbot Logged on 30-03-2015 01:48:44; Adlai: deal with all situations. But whoever is stupid and industrious must be removed immediately." - Attributed, circa 1933; General Baron Kurt von Hammerstein-Equord (1878-1943); German Chief of Army Command (1930-33) [23:59]
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