Forum logs for 29 Oct 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Other than Sealand and the Hutt River Principality... I don't know of any that really come close. [00:03]
TheNewDeal mp are you reading that buchanan book? [00:05]
mircea_popescu TheNewDeal http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-start-your-own-country-adnotated/ [00:05]
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TheNewDeal Ahh... was thinking of some blog someone posted the other day. [00:08]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla:my bet : he wont << you lost btw, [00:08]
kakobrekla so what does he say? [00:09]
TheNewDeal And for the record : this was a joke directed at mikayla, and two lines later I stated I was only kidding "19:29:01TheNewDeal:Usagi will open one for you, just send him a,pm" [00:09]
mircea_popescu both answered, buncha stuff, seem reasonable enough guys. i sent them a link to webirc [00:11]
cazalla mircea_popescu: cazalla http://trilema.com/2012/the-bitcoin-drama-timeline/#comment-109313 << check that shit out. <<< how do you know it's not his wife but him.. "not a bad guy" [00:12]
cazalla seems i drank too much last night and abused some people on twitter [00:12]
mircea_popescu i have no idea, it could be anyone. after all, woman's not in the wot. [00:12]
mircea_popescu cazalla do i have to fire you now because sjw outrage ? [00:12]
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cazalla qntra is not big enough for people to demand my head but i'm sure that will happen in time [00:13]
mircea_popescu or else we lose all our advertisers ? [00:13]
cazalla don't forget that i will capitulate and apologise [00:14]
mircea_popescu or maybe the asswipes get to learn that they're being done a favour by being allowed to advertise, not the other fucking way around. [00:14]
mircea_popescu too much sjw-ing, too little abject prostration in thanks they've somehow not been killed yet, for no apparent reason. [00:15]
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mircea_popescu http://41.media.tumblr.com/3ae84b4671fbf6230b8b6a280badce59/tumblr_n6ww4xEcnY1t3oijno5_500.png << american psycho! [00:16]
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TheNewDeal is she about to shit on that dude's face? [00:23]
cazalla TheNewDeal, something is protruding from that area [00:26]
TheNewDeal can neither confirm not deny? [00:26]
cazalla btw bottom left, xbox 360 [00:26]
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mircea_popescu i think there's some diddling involved [00:33]
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kakobrekla https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHMmMgdcOSU [00:47]
kakobrekla >Antares Rocket explodes [00:47]
TheNewDeal this happen today? [00:47]
kakobrekla looks like it; http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html [00:48]
mircea_popescu ya [00:48]
mircea_popescu seems decimation flew a drone there anwyay! [00:48]
TheNewDeal "Main engines at 108%" [00:48]
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dub boosh [00:50]
kakobrekla just as i pasted the live feed link, they said "need to secure area cause there was crypto gear on board." [00:50]
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TheNewDeal could have been the first bitcoin node in space? [00:50]
TheNewDeal asciilifeform wtf is this http://pastebin.com/rG1TxJt2 [00:51]
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nubbins` hi again [00:51]
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artifexd !s openrng [00:53]
assbot 0 results for 'openrng' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=openrng [00:53]
kakobrekla hm, search be parsing downed pilots [00:54]
kakobrekla errr [00:54]
kakobrekla i mean logs. [00:54]
artifexd http://onerng.info/ << asciilifeform: Your thoughts on this project would be appreciated [00:54]
kakobrekla downed logs of downed pilots [00:54]
kakobrekla artifexd : see log1. [00:54]
kakobrekla discussed earlier [00:55]
cazalla fkn andreas [00:55]
artifexd kakobrekla: Will do. Thanks. [00:55]
ben_vulpes apropos only of rockets [00:59]
ben_vulpes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIGVi_rMFGw [00:59]
ben_vulpes the throttling! [00:59]
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BingoBoingo I call dibs on the USG Bezzel Rocket explodes qntra piece! [01:00]
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kakobrekla ;;isup qntra.net [01:04]
gribble qntra.net is down [01:04]
TheNewDeal ;;isup log1.bitcoin-assets.com [01:04]
gribble log1.bitcoin-assets.com is down [01:04]
TheNewDeal fuckfaces [01:05]
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BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2014/10/usg-bezzel-rocket-explodes/ [01:05]
jurov what's the avg volume of the ddos? [01:06]
TheNewDeal http://dpaste.com/2AFFMTJ [01:06]
mircea_popescu ;;isup qntra.net [01:06]
gribble qntra.net is up [01:06]
mircea_popescu what is this scam. [01:06]
TheNewDeal Posted todays logs up until a few minutes ago [01:06]
mircea_popescu !s daily [01:08]
assbot 429 results for 'daily' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=daily [01:08]
jurov kakobrekla: if it isn't terabytes, i can try setting up amazon cdn for you [01:08]
kakobrekla for bitbet im already waiting new boxen delivery [01:09]
BingoBoingo As matter of record I would like to advance as evidence Google News sucks the point the WKMG in Orlando was the only hit for the term "Nasa Explosion" within the past 12 hours. [01:09]
kakobrekla logs - anyone can host - i have an interface for that. [01:09]
jurov olay, let's try it with logs [01:10]
kakobrekla ;;ident jurov [01:10]
gribble Nick 'jurov', with hostmask 'jurov!~jurov@mx.coinbr.com', is identified as user 'jurov', with GPG key id 677ABD62D0AEE7D7, key fingerprint BBB0A99950037551F533850A677ABD62D0AEE7D7, and bitcoin address None [01:10]
* asciilifeform sat in traffic jam, waited for rocket, didn't see it - then read #b-a and found live camfeed of it burning [01:12]
* asciilifeform watched that instead [01:12]
kakobrekla :D [01:13]
asciilifeform log dead ? [01:13]
mircea_popescu jurov Oct 21 16:41:51 kakobrekla : i see your lulz and raise you my lulz. http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/qntra-bw.png << it's there. [01:14]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform log1 is up. [01:15]
kakobrekla ;;isup log1.bitcoin-assets.com [01:15]
gribble log1.bitcoin-assets.com is up [01:15]
kakobrekla hrm [01:15]
artifexd !isup trilema.com [01:15]
kakobrekla doesnt open here [01:15]
asciilifeform dead here [01:16]
artifexd ;;isup trilema.com [01:16]
gribble trilema.com is up [01:16]
artifexd Hmm [01:16]
asciilifeform also dead here. [01:16]
artifexd Yeah. Trilema isn't working from here. [01:16]
kakobrekla gribble is drunk [01:17]
mircea_popescu lies! [01:18]
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TheNewDeal I'm not getting trilema either [01:18]
TheNewDeal probably just canada with their cups and strings internet [01:19]
bounce openbsd apparently dropping loadable kernel module support, so far without announcement. huh. [01:20]
asciilifeform crypto gear << yes, they use block cipher. (at least, this was officially proclaimed at one point. used to be DES, even. not sure about today) [01:20]
mircea_popescu uhm. i have no idea. anyone unable to load it, pastebin your dig response ? [01:21]
artifexd dig response? [01:21]
kakobrekla http://dpaste.com/0TAM4YV.txt [01:21]
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mircea_popescu so does 23.235.235.243 load ? [01:22]
asciilifeform nope [01:22]
mircea_popescu o.O [01:22]
kakobrekla indeed - no. [01:22]
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mircea_popescu PING 23.235.235.243 (23.235.235.243) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 23.235.235.243: icmp_seq=1 ttl=49 time=273 ms etc. [01:23]
mircea_popescu how about that ? [01:23]
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kakobrekla ping works [01:23]
BingoBoingo bounce> openbsd apparently dropping loadable kernel module support, so far without announcement. huh. << Not many actual uses of them in the first place. [01:24]
bounce linux loves 'em to bits [01:24]
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BingoBoingo Looking into actual uses of them in ports it seems HP bios reflash utility was one of few examples. [01:26]
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BingoBoingo !up gabriel_laddel [01:27]
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BingoBoingo bounce: Reading comments on different articles about the change everyone with a linux background seems conviced OpenBSD is shooting itself, when really there's different ways to make machines do things. [01:29]
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asciilifeform http://pastebin.com/36RbKjPp << dig [01:30]
mircea_popescu that'd be correct. [01:31]
mircea_popescu i have nfi idea why anyone'd not be able to get to it. esp if it pings ok. [01:31]
mircea_popescu Load Averages: 0.55 0.41 0.65 << the server is neither under heavy load nor actually split from teh interwebs. [01:32]
mircea_popescu ;;isdown trilema.com [01:32]
gribble Error: "isdown" is not a valid command. [01:32]
mircea_popescu ;;isup trilema.com [01:32]
gribble trilema.com is up [01:32]
mircea_popescu no, srsly ?! [01:32]
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kakobrekla no worky [01:33]
asciilifeform aha [01:33]
mircea_popescu well this is an entirely new one. [01:33]
asciilifeform not a dns diddle either [01:33]
BingoBoingo BGP being messed with? [01:33]
mircea_popescu and it's not the firewalls either. [01:34]
mircea_popescu do you all have a broken implementation of syn cookiues maybe ?! [01:34]
kakobrekla ddos protektSON [01:34]
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BingoBoingo http://www.coindesk.com/crypto-2-0-companies-rebuff-sec-crackdown-rumors/ << OMG Coinfire vs. CoinDesk showdown. [01:35]
mircea_popescu lol [01:35]
mircea_popescu you know they lied, you read it here what, a week ago ? [01:36]
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BingoBoingo Eh, lied mislead... strong signatures could have made all of the difference. [01:36]
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asciilifeform http://www.coindesk.com/senator-shumer-dark-web-fight << mega-lol [01:37]
jurov tcptraceroute trilema.com 80 results: http://pastebin.com/XWCKY1FE [01:38]
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asciilifeform can reach here, with almost total packet loss [01:40]
xanthyos http://gyazo.com/6f0f948438a00594bc623cbb8d97723d [01:41]
mircea_popescu why the fuck am I able to get through to it no problem ? [01:41]
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mircea_popescu !up petahash [01:43]
-assbot- You voiced petahash for 30 minutes. [01:43]
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mircea_popescu !up elementofone [01:43]
-assbot- You voiced elementofone for 30 minutes. [01:43]
* assbot gives voice to elementofone [01:43]
elementofone hi everyone [01:43]
petahash hola [01:44]
BingoBoingo Hi elementofone [01:44]
elementofone whats up [01:44]
BingoBoingo Not NASA... [01:44]
asciilifeform meowmix. [01:44]
petahash friendly panda [01:45]
elementofone meow meow meow [01:45]
elementofone my cat loves meowmix [01:45]
mircea_popescu lol what did that rocket fall on anyway [01:45]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well pieces prolly cover a good area around the pad. Made it up a bit before going boom. [01:45]
ben_vulpes !down elementofone [01:46]
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ben_vulpes !up elementofone [01:50]
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ben_vulpes what's your question, elementofone? [01:50]
elementofone how much does 1 million$ equal in bitcoin? [01:50]
elementofone is there a dollar to bitcoin ratio on bitcoin? [01:50]
mircea_popescu maybe a few k's, if you're lucky. [01:51]
ben_vulpes ... [01:51]
ben_vulpes ;;calc 1000000 / [ticker --last] [01:51]
gribble 2808.19994384 [01:51]
elementofone BEFORE YOU BAN ME [01:51]
elementofone IS THERE A BITCOIN STARTERS GUIDE OUT THERE? [01:51]
ben_vulpes ya keep going please. [01:51]
ben_vulpes what are you looking to learn? [01:52]
elementofone TO LEARN ABOUT EVERYTHING ABOUT BITCOIN YO [01:52]
elementofone I KNOW NOTHING OF BITCOIN [01:52]
elementofone JUST GIVE ME A LINK AND I WILL READ IT THEN BAN ME OK =) [01:52]
mircea_popescu read the log. http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com [01:52]
asciilifeform bot [01:52]
elementofone whats a pussy bot going to do? [01:53]
petahash check out preev.com [01:53]
petahash its based on the exchange rate [01:53]
elementofone WHATS A GOOD FUCKING WAY TO START BITCOIN? [01:53]
petahash turn off caps [01:53]
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elementofone fine [01:53]
elementofone so 1 dollar equals 353 bitcoins? [01:53]
mircea_popescu lol [01:53]
BingoBoingo !down elementofone http://buttcoinfoundation.org [01:54]
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mircea_popescu 1 dollar equals, more or less, nothing. [01:54]
mircea_popescu rounded to the closest cent. [01:54]
petahash 1 bitcoin = $356 USD [01:54]
ben_vulpes ;;ident petahash [01:54]
gribble Nick 'petahash', with hostmask 'petahash!~petahash@d173-183-96-243.bchsia.telus.net', is not identified. [01:54]
petahash ? [01:56]
danielpbarron the exploded nasa thing was carrying "crypto equipment" according to CNN [01:57]
mircea_popescu a well. [01:57]
petahash link? [01:57]
mircea_popescu it's in teh log lol. [01:57]
mircea_popescu 22:47:16 [01:58]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla: [01:58]
mircea_popescu just as i pasted the live feed link, they said "need to secure area cause there was crypto gear on board." [01:58]
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BingoBoingo danielpbarron: Text source or details? Kind of assumed golden toilet crypto equiptment goes to space for both sides so the USians and Ruskies can plot on the subject of stabbing the other faction first in case relations become sour... [01:58]
danielpbarron i saw it on the tv in a bar [01:59]
danielpbarron and thought, "it's not every day i see the word 'crypto' on tv" [02:00]
danielpbarron not that i watch much tv [02:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1255344 @ 0.00076434 = 959.5096 BTC [-] {96} [02:03]
mircea_popescu http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-10-2014#900810 << incidentally, can anyone see that ? [02:04]
assbot Logged on 28-10-2014 23:54:38; petahash: link? [02:04]
mircea_popescu duh. so assbot can see it. [02:04]
kakobrekla >We're sorry for the confusion, it does appear that this was an inbound attack and we've removed the block on your server. I've also given you a $10 credit as an apology for the inconvenience. [02:04]
kakobrekla lol! [02:04]
mircea_popescu http://qntra.net [02:04]
assbot Qntra.net | Bitcoin News, Views & Commentary [02:04]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com [02:05]
assbot Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [02:05]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform artifexd kakobrekla srsly can't see it still ?! [02:05]
kakobrekla ;;isup log.bitcoin-assets.com [02:05]
gribble log.bitcoin-assets.com is up [02:05]
mircea_popescu ;;isup bitbet.us [02:05]
gribble bitbet.us is up [02:05]
mircea_popescu o.O [02:05]
mircea_popescu so does the internets work or doesn't it ?! i'm confused. [02:05]
kakobrekla qntra & trilema now works [02:05]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla the weird thing is i saw the log syncing throughout. [02:06]
kakobrekla throughout what [02:06]
kakobrekla log1 does not feed of log(0) [02:06]
mircea_popescu throughout you not being able to see trilema o.O [02:07]
kakobrekla a [02:07]
kakobrekla well inbound != outbound [02:07]
kakobrekla anyway i refused to dance bananas and got paid 10 bux [02:08]
* kakobrekla will more often refuse things. [02:08]
mircea_popescu imagine what you could have made if you accepted! [02:08]
kakobrekla nothing! [02:08]
mircea_popescu i said imagine [02:08]
kakobrekla :p [02:08]
artifexd Trilema is up here now [02:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22461 @ 0.00079407 = 17.8356 BTC [+] [02:09]
mod6 <@assbot> [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1255344 @ 0.00076434 = 959.5096 BTC [-] {96} << ??? [02:09]
kakobrekla collected over down period [02:10]
mod6 oh. ok. [02:10]
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mircea_popescu catchup looks like [02:14]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18359 @ 0.00079101 = 14.5222 BTC [-] {2} [02:17]
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Pierre_Rochard preaching to the choir cazalla, I’d just like to see the damage to their nick if they ever registered in wot [02:19]
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kakobrekla duh. so assbot can see it. < assbot is looking directly in db, not parsing site [02:23]
cazalla Pierre_Rochard, they won't ever register and yet someone like kyle torpey is now preaching bitcoin + pgp but isn't even in the wot to begin with [02:23]
Pierre_Rochard ;;rate ktorp -1 “lost his key….” [02:23]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user ktorp has been recorded. [02:23]
kakobrekla ;;gettrust ktorp [02:23]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user kakobrekla to user ktorp: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=kakobrekla&dest=ktorp | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=ktorp | Rated since: Tue Nov 13 20:06:45 2012 [02:23]
BingoBoingo http://www.dailydot.com/geek/twitch-sexy-streamers-rule-change/ [02:23]
assbot Twitch is trying to change its image by banning sexy streamers [02:23]
cazalla well i guess i take that back lol [02:24]
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Pierre_Rochard cazalla: well he may never register again haha [02:25]
Pierre_Rochard that said, focusing on those on the fence about registering may be a better approach than chastising those who are very reluctant (as they would get a negative rating right off the bat) [02:26]
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Pierre_Rochard ;;rate cazalla 1 “http://qntra.net/“ [02:27]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user cazalla has been recorded. [02:27]
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xiando mircea_popescu: I have never heard that tale before so I do not know, so sorry. Interesting tale, though. [02:32]
BingoBoingo %d [02:34]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 469547.73 Est. Next Diff: 337540.40 in 923 blocks (#48384) Est. % Change: -28.11 [02:34]
BingoBoingo %p [02:35]
atcbot [PityThePool Hashrate]: 487.45 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 0 TH/s [02:35]
BingoBoingo %v [02:35]
atcbot [X-BT VWAP] Bid: 55 Ask: 150 Last Price: 46 30d-Vol: 2.99M 30d-High: 266 30d-Low: 1 30d-VWAP: 61 [02:35]
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BingoBoingo http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--XW2rWPsL--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/kfrfrpbhmgzwf8cngxsr.gif << Bezzel Rocket exploding on Doppler [02:39]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla> duh. so assbot can see it. < assbot is looking directly in db, not parsing site << when spitting out page titles ?! [02:42]
mircea_popescu that said, focusing on those on the fence about registering may be a better approach than chastising those who are very reluctant (as they would get a negative rating right off the bat) << i doubt anyone'd care enough to neg them, unless they did stupid shit [02:43]
kakobrekla http://dpaste.com/2BNFP71.txt < the line in the middle is not page title, if thats what you meant [02:43]
Pierre_Rochard mircea_popescu: you would not neg andreas, if he negged you for ‘trolling’ ? [02:44]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: you would not neg andreas, if he negged you for ‘trolling’ ? << Andreas has other sins [02:45]
mircea_popescu Pierre_Rochard why the fuck would he do that lol. [02:46]
mircea_popescu for one thing, he can't even rate before he gets rated, so it's moot [02:46]
Pierre_Rochard BingoBoingo: exactly. Joining WoT would bring the skeletons out. Best for him to try to discredit it from afar [02:46]
Pierre_Rochard mircea_popescu: huh, I didn’t know that, interesting [02:46]
mircea_popescu seems a bizarre approach anyway, join wot, start negrating people. how far is that gonna go lol, [02:47]
asciilifeform works now [02:47]
mircea_popescu and for that matter, why would anyone imagine negratings from nobody do anything [02:47]
xiando I am just guessing here, but if I rate mircea_popescu 10 bought what SEC doesn't like from him ten times and SEC sends out nastly letters like they did the last few days [02:48]
xiando then I could negrate mircea_popescu and hope he gets upset and negrates me? [02:48]
mircea_popescu wait, what ?! [02:48]
xiando mircea_popescu: would negrating be a way to get good ratings with evidence away? [02:49]
bounce what are you on about? [02:49]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform anyway, best i can discern some major routing thing blew at some point somewhere, lost some traffic. [02:49]
asciilifeform guessed as much [02:50]
mircea_popescu xiando this somehow doesn't make sense. what do you mean "evidence away"? [02:50]
xiando seems a bizarre approach anyway, join wot, start negrating people. <- just guessing why someone would do that but I may be way off [02:50]
xiando but if it is a freshly created wot account then I am probably way wrong [02:50]
mircea_popescu xiando it's like, new kid in school, starts telling all the girls they're ugly, [02:50]
mircea_popescu not the best way to behave as a new guy. [02:50]
bounce such a person would get a bunch of negrates and drop below the threshold for giving ratings. [02:51]
* bounce wonders if unrating is affected by that [02:51]
mircea_popescu bounce i dun think it is. [02:51]
nubbins` punkman i grabbed the file via curl instead of copypasta, all checks out [02:51]
nubbins` had to slightly modify regex for grabbing raw deed [02:52]
mircea_popescu nubbins` didja spend it ? [02:52]
nubbins` not yet [02:52]
nubbins` .balance [02:53]
nubbins` wut is it [02:53]
mircea_popescu so spend it! [02:53]
mircea_popescu Greetings. Sir or Madam. I am Mrs Aminatu Mariam, from South Sudan. I want to invest in your country Azibaijan and settle down there with my [02:53]
mircea_popescu family. I want to know more about your country if possible. << anyone looking for a south sudanese chick ? [02:53]
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mircea_popescu http://41.media.tumblr.com/3fa616f430a223a8a2018cd9c86e3d76/tumblr_nar12dEilO1ti4ud8o7_500.jpg pic unrelated. [02:54]
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mircea_popescu !up amantonop [02:54]
-assbot- You voiced amantonop for 30 minutes. [02:54]
* assbot gives voice to amantonop [02:54]
BingoBoingo Fuck, why does my neigborhood choose World Series time to become RF noisy. [02:56]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: <--?--> [02:56]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Watching the game on broadcast TV. [02:57]
asciilifeform ^ if that isn't a standard symbol, it should be [02:57]
bounce because watching sports is your neighbourhood's preferred way to waste time and it obviously needs wireless to (re)transmit the signals [02:57]
asciilifeform ('which causes which ?') [02:57]
BingoBoingo bounce: TV antenna lives on roof. [02:57]
BingoBoingo Noise somewhere around is fucking up the reception. [02:58]
bounce so? think wifi for streaming or even video repeaters using the same ISM band [02:58]
cazalla http://qntra.net/2014/10/bitcoin-options-are-back-at-ig-markets/ [02:58]
assbot Bitcoin Options Are Back At IG Markets | Qntra.net [02:58]
mircea_popescu http://31.media.tumblr.com/f369544d3ae21a39a45565f62561101a/tumblr_n18sv5U9VN1rwnxnho1_400.gif << options trader. [03:00]
jurov http://therealbitcoin.org/mailman/listinfo/btc-dev (^^) but turdatron not added yet! [03:01]
asciilifeform congrats jurov! [03:01]
jurov only gpg signed message checking [03:01]
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mircea_popescu o hey! [03:01]
BingoBoingo bounce: UHF channel 43, 644-650 MHz [03:01]
asciilifeform jurov: can we crap in it yet? [03:02]
jurov yes. if you're in wot, you don't even need to register [03:02]
jurov only for receiving [03:02]
nubbins` https://blockchain.info/tx/08da464bf2037d36f7e4ac68f5fa9bc1dfc9c4cc707d446caaf5b51dcd6b87e4 if anyone is interested [03:03]
assbot Bitcoin Transaction 08da464bf2037d36f7e4ac68f5fa9bc1dfc9c4cc707d446caaf5b51dcd6b87e4 [03:03]
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mircea_popescu nubbins` wd! [03:04]
mircea_popescu punkman first confirmative tx! [03:04]
* asciilifeform mailed in a turd [03:05]
* assbot gives voice to gabriel_laddel [03:05]
bounce in that case, might be, oh, "gigabit" powerline things. the faster they go, the higher up in the spectrum their noise goes [03:05]
asciilifeform jurov: borked ? [03:05]
jurov possibly [03:05]
asciilifeform jurov: 'subscribe' dead too [03:06]
jurov "Invalid signature." grrr [03:06]
asciilifeform 404 [03:07]
BingoBoingo bounce: Whatever it is if it doesn't stop by the 6th I might have to find it. [03:07]
jurov indeed the signature does not verify [03:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30853 @ 0.00079397 = 24.4964 BTC [+] {2} [03:09]
asciilifeform lol! [03:09]
asciilifeform verified great here... [03:09]
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jurov http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=pYFPWdFD can you diff with this? [03:11]
asciilifeform fucking lineendings. [03:12]
asciilifeform yours: cr/lf. [03:12]
mircea_popescu i think i'm in a hurricane over here. rain is more like a solid curtain than anything. [03:14]
amantonop . [03:14]
asciilifeform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kTr-uLB_yw << mega-lol [03:16]
assbot - YouTube [03:16]
jurov it won't verify even with
only 		[03:16]
asciilifeform verified fine here. [03:17]
jurov it's the same as in the tarball? [03:18]
* jurov looks [03:18]
asciilifeform no [03:18]
asciilifeform that one had detached sig [03:18]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3475 @ 0.00079407 = 2.7594 BTC [+] [03:19]
nubbins` also if anyone is curious, the following links may be of some use as a quick and dirty deed verification system: [03:19]
nubbins` http://pastebin.com/7cHR9UMB [03:19]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform lol not bad. [03:19]
assbot [Bash] deed.sh - Pastebin.com [03:19]
nubbins` http://pastebin.com/T2gaR6zp [03:19]
assbot [JavaScript] processdeed.js - Pastebin.com [03:19]
nubbins` ^ node.js and a couple libs required [03:20]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i admit, i like practical jokes and stage magic [03:20]
nubbins` feel free to transmogrify [03:20]
mircea_popescu me too. [03:20]
mircea_popescu who doesn't, it's like chocolate. [03:20]
rithm i'm working on my own personal webtorrent thingy right now [03:21]
rithm it's node [03:21]
nubbins` usage: ./deed.sh DEED-ID [03:21]
jurov aab1f8ea8c7f131ff69dfa3b9437ba35531018be760132dd6373f41a591f6382 bitcoin-bitcoin-v0.5.3-0-gd05c03a.tar.gz << asciilifeform this line got split in the email [03:21]
nubbins` rithm i only started playing with node last week [03:21]
asciilifeform jurov: passed after that? [03:21]
* nubbins` shrugs [03:21]
nubbins` not bad so far [03:21]
mircea_popescu rithm not bad. [03:22]
jurov yes passes (with 2 spaces inbetween) [03:22]
asciilifeform jurov: let me try again with another gizmo [03:22]
jurov CORRECT SOURCE AND RESUBNIT [03:23]
mircea_popescu !b 1 [03:23]
assbot Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0M35QMB.txt ) [03:23]
nubbins` heh. [03:24]
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asciilifeform jurov: ok how about that one [03:24]
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jurov another discard.. in your outbox the line is not split? [03:24]
asciilifeform nope. [03:24]
asciilifeform wait [03:25]
asciilifeform yes! [03:25]
asciilifeform 'squirrelmail' also retarded. [03:25]
mircea_popescu don't hate it just because it uses STANDARD CLRLBLABLA^H^H^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@ [03:26]
nubbins` heh [03:26]
rithm mircea_popescu this thing on HN today made me want my own http://joker.org [03:27]
assbot Joker.org | .torrent -> streamable video [03:27]
nubbins` CLRF IS THE STANDARD NEWLINE [03:27]
rithm i assume it's overloaded by now [03:27]
nubbins` ED IS THE STANDARD TEXT EDITOR [03:27]
rithm maybe it still works shrug [03:27]
jurov in kmail there's option "wordwrap at column:", guess it can be set in most editors [03:28]
asciilifeform and folks ask me wtf i mean when i say 'we don't have computers yet' [03:28]
asciilifeform there was no line break retardation going in! [03:29]
jurov try leaving the body empty and put the mesg as first attachemnt [03:29]
decimation re: crypto gear << probably something that talks to this: https://www.viasat.com/files/assets/web/datasheets/KS-252_datasheet_008.pdf [03:29]
mircea_popescu attachment usually works. [03:29]
bounce well, no, there wasn't. forget the cr and the thing'd just sit there and beep. forget the lf and you'd eventually cut the paper. [03:29]
asciilifeform jurov: sent [03:30]
BingoBoingo So rf environment here calmed its bitch down [03:30]
mircea_popescu bounce so you are saying we're stuck computing on annimated typewriters because reasons ? [03:31]
asciilifeform 'hysterical raisins' [03:32]
jurov nope, it did base64 encode it and put it as second attachment after empty text/plain part [03:32]
jurov /o [03:32]
bounce we more or less are, yes. except that those paper-driven things actually did stuff with the control codes and could produce accents in just 7 bits [03:32]
jurov guess it has to loop over all parts. [03:33]
mircea_popescu bounce i guess i best get my carwhip fixed then. [03:33]
bounce yes, get on with it [03:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.00078993 = 21.3281 BTC [-] {2} [03:33]
jurov one needs email client that allows to disable linewrap and richtext [03:33]
asciilifeform no rich text crap here [03:34]
asciilifeform and no wraps going in [03:34]
mircea_popescu ... and thisis how jurov ended up rewriting the lighbulb. [03:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28850 @ 0.0007899 = 22.7886 BTC [-] [03:34]
asciilifeform possibly these will have to travel armoured and rsa'd to turdatron's pubkey [03:35]
asciilifeform to avoid mutilation [03:35]
asciilifeform because retardation everywhere. [03:35]
jurov when i bruteforce scan all mime parts this one would pass [03:35]
bounce 7bit ascii, line lengths within 80 cols or so. otherwise you end up with encodings and wraps and whatnots. [03:35]
mircea_popescu jurov yeah srsly, maybe only accept base64'd emails ? [03:36]
asciilifeform bounce: 80 cols << satoshi's original fails! [03:36]
mircea_popescu then decode check etc ? [03:36]
BingoBoingo Oh ground rule double. [03:36]
jurov it knows how to decode base64 that's not a problem [03:36]
mircea_popescu so then, emails can only be sent to list as base64'd signed matter. [03:36]
bounce properly decode the mime encoding crapola? quoted-printable and all that. [03:36]
jurov just i thought i don't need to scan all the (nested!) mime parts [03:36]
bounce haha. of course you have to do that. [03:37]
jurov srs, i now wonder what the dude that made the patch and supposedly maintains it, what he uses it for? [03:37]
decimation asciilifeform: must maintain compatibility to 1974! [03:37]
bounce you thought you could get off easy? not so fast. this is mime. [03:37]
mircea_popescu mime is such gunk [03:38]
jurov it did not support mime before at all [03:38]
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asciilifeform this is reason #.... why it all needs to burn [03:38]
bounce that it is. but moreover email isn't bitwise consistent, which any cryptographic hash function requires [03:38]
mircea_popescu and all this bulcrap so some idiot somewhere can send... what was it even ? html emails ? [03:38]
decimation as I pointed out last night, 7-bit ascii has perfectly good SOM/EOM chars [03:39]
asciilifeform because plain ascii is like naked people [03:39]
mircea_popescu lol [03:39]
jurov stan can't you just paste it to mailx for now? [03:39]
asciilifeform everything feels free to manipulate the hanging bits [03:39]
mircea_popescu so quotable. [03:39]
asciilifeform jurov: i won't use mail clients. [03:39]
bounce mime aspires to be clothing worthy of an emperor. [03:39]
decimation so really it's not even ascii, it's tard-ascii which is a much less useful subset of ascii [03:39]
nubbins` https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/54619107/Goldmund/bitcoin/support-bits.jpg [03:40]
asciilifeform the only kind available when the net is involved [03:40]
nubbins` ^ i want my coffee to cost 3470 [03:40]
nubbins` subunit-of-the-month [03:40]
decimation what's that symbol? [03:40]
bounce oh sod off. what's with the spamming of that stupid picture? [03:40]
asciilifeform a microscope. [03:40]
asciilifeform 19th. c. vintage [03:40]
asciilifeform with convenient ocular/hammer handle combo. [03:41]
nubbins` bounce you have inline images turned on? :0 [03:41]
decimation it looks like a wouff-hong http://www.arrl.org/ham-radio-history [03:41]
assbot Ham Radio History [03:41]
decimation " A Wouff Hong is a fictional tool used to "punish" Amateur Radio operators, who demonstrate poor operating practices." [03:41]
asciilifeform http://www.arrl.org/images/view/TIS/History/Wouff_Hong_1.jpg << looks like those 'dual dildos' [03:42]
BingoBoingo Two ground rule doubles in one inning??? [03:43]
decimation fun fact: usg banned ham radio during WWII [03:43]
decimation because! [03:43]
asciilifeform like all the other combatants. [03:43]
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mircea_popescu decimation for obvious reasons neh ? [03:44]
nubbins` ^ [03:44]
decimation sure, so if we have another war are they gonna ban the internet? [03:44]
nubbins` what do you think 8) [03:45]
BingoBoingo decimation: Nao Internet bans the war!!! [03:45]
mircea_popescu decimation certainly. [03:45]
decimation asciilifeform: reminds me of the first Stierlitz episode where he receives the enciphered message on shortwave [03:45]
asciilifeform decimation: like everybody ever ? [03:45]
asciilifeform decimation: nobody cancelled it even now [03:46]
mircea_popescu meanwhile on the internet, a) http://41.media.tumblr.com/d4a5ffd152980a413abf7f1d0f0abdd8/tumblr_n7n6vtIcBA1r59r91o2_500.jpg b) http://36.media.tumblr.com/dbd4d9a1b348445e33f187f8f22741e8/tumblr_n7n6vtIcBA1r59r91o1_500.jpg c) http://41.media.tumblr.com/3c946b3d4bb98b0e1b4427b178f706ca/tumblr_n7n6vtIcBA1r59r91o4_500.jpg [03:46]
asciilifeform dildotron! [03:46]
mircea_popescu note that the surprised face is midway :D [03:46]
asciilifeform operator's hands suggestively obscure the functional unit. [03:46]
decimation asciilifeform: indeed. if you have an interest in such stations, see this: http://www.numbersoddities.nl/ [03:46]
assbot Numbers stations home page [03:46]
BingoBoingo Oh, more Verizon shennanigans http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/10/verizon-bankrolled-news-site-bans-stories-on-spying-and-net-neutrality/ [03:46]
assbot Verizon-bankrolled news site bans stories on US spying and net neutrality | Ars Technica [03:46]
asciilifeform 'The site has headlines such as "Why The Future Of Anonymous Browsing Lies In Hardware," ' << lol! even after 'kickstarter' threw out the turd? [03:47]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform "because user can't modify hardware as easily" ? [03:48]
decimation well obviously joe sixpack is going to design and reduce his own vhdl [03:48]
mircea_popescu the current problem of teh nsa is that future roi on baby exploits is dubious at best. [03:48]
mircea_popescu so very little incentive to design new stuff. [03:48]
asciilifeform the future of asking people nicely to shoot themselves in the head, however, is bright! [03:49]
asciilifeform for some reason - they often oblige [03:49]
decimation what I find amusing watching snowden is that he clearly sees that unelected bureaucrats have 'stolen' power. Yet, he thinks that 'democracy' will actually reign sovereign! [03:49]
mircea_popescu funny how that works, huh. [03:50]
asciilifeform decimation: what makes you think mr. s thinks? or even lives ? [03:50]
mircea_popescu people get these fixed ideas. [03:50]
decimation You mean like he's max headroom now? [03:50]
asciilifeform more osama than max [03:50]
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asciilifeform 'historical fiction' [03:51]
decimation like, the constitution wasn't powerful enough to constrain bureaucrats, so maybe a constitutional remedy will fix it? [03:51]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform doesn't he show up to conferences and shit ? [03:51]
asciilifeform not afaik [03:51]
asciilifeform well, in a sense, via whorecam [03:51]
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asciilifeform the way osama did. [03:51]
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* mircea_popescu doesn't really care one way or another. [03:52]
decimation he appeared on google hangout last week: http://ethics.harvard.edu/event/lawrence-lessig-interviews-edward-snowden [03:52]
assbot Lawrence Lessig interviews Edward Snowden | Edmond J. Safra Center for Ethics [03:52]
mircea_popescu let him get in the wot. [03:52]
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* asciilifeform doesn't care particularly much, except for sport [03:52]
decimation nah, he's pretty much a nobody [03:52]
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mircea_popescu wait! is orlov alive ? [03:53]
decimation it's obvious he will be used as a figurehead that will represent yet another cause that deserves a usg teat [03:53]
mircea_popescu what if they replaced orlov with yarvin [03:53]
mircea_popescu and yarvin with that dead banker [03:53]
jurov asciilifeform: retry [03:53]
BingoBoingo Reason #8 to follow sports, Provides context for evaluating other pursuits one follows for the sport of it. [03:53]
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asciilifeform jurov: retried (message in body) [03:54]
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jurov line split again [03:54]
asciilifeform retried w/ attachment [03:55]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26000 @ 0.00078988 = 20.5369 BTC [-] {2} [03:56]
jurov "Message signed by key which does not match message sender address" ohmy [03:56]
asciilifeform lol [03:56]
asciilifeform retardation [03:56]
asciilifeform wtf does it matter from what email [03:56]
BingoBoingo WhatsApp, losing money http://arstechnica.com/business/2014/10/newly-facebook-owned-whatsapp-lost-roughly-200m-in-two-years/ [03:57]
assbot Newly Facebook-owned WhatsApp lost roughly $200M in 2 years | Ars Technica [03:57]
decimation BingoBoingo: how could it possibly 'gain money? [03:57]
asciilifeform usg donation? [03:57]
decimation like, they start $19 bn in the hole and the have an app? [03:57]
BingoBoingo decimation: Merit Washing? [03:57]
jurov btw.. what if someone takes your chicken.asc and uses it to spam the list? [03:59]
asciilifeform jurov: good point. let's serial # ? [03:59]
jurov we'll come to that later [03:59]
asciilifeform that or simply store hashes of msg [04:00]
asciilifeform and reject dupes [04:00]
BingoBoingo http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/10/feds-have-identified-searched-suspected-second-intelligence-leaker/ << Oh, USG not prosecuting leaker because of appearances [04:00]
assbot Feds have identified, searched suspected second intelligence leaker | Ars Technica [04:00]
asciilifeform rectothermal inquest, rectothermal verdict, rectothermal sentence... [04:01]
asciilifeform who's the 'third leaker' who leaked the impalement of the second ? [04:02]
BingoBoingo Or they broke him, the Winston solution [04:02]
BingoBoingo Yahoo is third leaker so... [04:02]
asciilifeform fourth [04:02]
BingoBoingo Crafted disinfo? [04:02]
BingoBoingo Ah [04:02]
BingoBoingo 4th is Yahoo [04:02]
decimation eh, it seems to me that usg has capitulated to reality [04:02]
decimation the reality that they can't keep secrets, that is [04:03]
* asciilifeform can't picture these folks 'capitulating to reality' even after they're hogtied in the drowning barges. [04:03]
BingoBoingo Shhhh.... Poor form to say that when I'm pricing barges [04:05]
decimation oh, I can totally see them capitulate if it means they get a nanoslice of power in exchange [04:05]
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BingoBoingo http://bargesandworkboatsforsale.com/barges-for-sale/30x36x3-sectional-barge-40000/ [04:06]
assbot 30x36x3 sectional barge year unknown 3 sections 10x36x3 $40,000 for all 3 sections. | Barges and Work Boats for Sale [04:06]
jurov http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2014-October/000001.html well..not exactly expected outcome [04:07]
jurov better set up the line wrap [04:07]
asciilifeform set up? [04:07]
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jurov disable [04:08]
asciilifeform it isn't enabled! [04:08]
asciilifeform what, i gotta debug 'squirrelmail' now ? [04:08]
cazalla http://qntra.net/2014/10/mit-bitcoin-project-goes-live/ less than a week to claim the coins, i wonder if what remains will be pocketed by someone [04:08]
assbot MIT Bitcoin Project Goes Live | Qntra.net [04:08]
jurov mhm [04:09]
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nubbins` .deed http://dpaste.com/218ATYP.txt [04:15]
nubbins` oh [04:15]
jurov subscriptions now work.. and the above problems are prolly better to sleep on [04:15]
asciilifeform above problem should probably involve ascii-armoured gpgrams [04:16]
mircea_popescu decimation: Merit Washing? << actually 200mn is a gross understatement. [04:16]
decimation of the gains or losses? [04:16]
asciilifeform because i will -not- be dealing in mail client internals. [04:16]
mircea_popescu of the losses lol [04:16]
mircea_popescu what gains [04:16]
jurov just wrap the text before signing? [04:17]
mircea_popescu * asciilifeform can't picture these folks 'capitulating to reality' even after they're hogtied in the drowning barges. <<< this because they understand how "the world" works. [04:17]
asciilifeform wrap? [04:17]
jurov wordwrap [04:17]
asciilifeform i will not be massaging code to fit in this mess either [04:17]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Well Whatsapp is a premium value loser for USG because of the large non-USian user population. Maybe ISIS has an account there. [04:17]
asciilifeform no, no, and no. [04:17]
mircea_popescu lol [04:17]
mircea_popescu does stan sound like a rambunctious bad boy or what [04:17]
* asciilifeform draws the line at coprophagia [04:18]
nubbins` lel [04:18]
decimation I'm trying to get an openbsd vm running for 'adult' platform [04:18]
mircea_popescu but all the other girls ate shit! [04:18]
asciilifeform crackwhoring, codewhoring, every other depravity - sure. [04:18]
asciilifeform l0l [04:18]
nubbins` table=flipped [04:18]
mircea_popescu incidentally, i have nfi why the libtards keep going with the "x many people nobody gives a shit about have no access to clean water" [04:20]
asciilifeform and the peculiar flavour of the articles, as if water were vented to outer space [04:21]
mircea_popescu it'd go a lot further if it read "three out of four black adults ate on average a pound of shit in 2013" [04:21]
BingoBoingo http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2014/10/how_to_end_gamergate_a_divide_and_conquer_plan.html [04:21]
assbot How to end Gamergate: A divide-and-conquer plan. [04:21]
asciilifeform !s recycled food [04:21]
assbot 17 results for 'recycled food' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=recycled+food [04:21]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo lmao these dorks [04:21]
asciilifeform 'doxed' ! [04:22]
nubbins` http://cavirtexlawsuit.com/ [04:22]
assbot CAVIRTEX Class Action Lawsuit | The official class action lawsuit against CAVIRTEX [04:22]
decimation in london in the 19th century, most paupers drank straight from the thames [04:22]
nubbins` legitimatewebsite.com [04:22]
decimation generally they would let the turds settle to the bottom of a bucket before drinking [04:22]
asciilifeform spammershill.com [04:22]
decimation coinshit.edu [04:22]
nubbins` heh [04:22]
nubbins` the OFFICIAL class action lawsuit [04:22]
mircea_popescu lol. [04:23]
mircea_popescu as opposed to what, the officious class action ? [04:23]
nubbins` offer expires nov 1, send info today [04:23]
nubbins` What information do I need to provide to file a claim? [04:23]
mircea_popescu so i'm watching "nudist colon y of the dead". there should be an award for this level of forced humor [04:23]
nubbins` etc etc, "Other information that you feel is relevant" [04:23]
mircea_popescu "humor". [04:23]
nubbins` lel [04:23]
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decimation actually 'clean water' in india is quite dangerous, owing to the deposits of arsenic in the water [04:24]
mircea_popescu !up sxejno [04:25]
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asciilifeform 'clean water' in india is quite dangerous << ??? - arsenic and shit cancel out in a burst of gamma ray ? [04:25]
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mircea_popescu decimation india actually has much less of a problem than shitafrica. [04:25]
sxejno thanks mircea [04:25]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform yes, because shit is mostly dead red cells [04:25]
jurov no that's piss [04:26]
mircea_popescu (shit cleans arsenic out of water throuigh roughly the same chemistry arsenic poisons live humans) [04:26]
asciilifeform bioscavenger! [04:26]
jurov red cells go to kidneys [04:26]
asciilifeform jurov: i think mircea_popescu is speaking of bioscavenging [04:27]
mircea_popescu jurov nah, some hemoglobin clears through kidneys, but most goes to the colon [04:27]
decimation yeah, filtering water through lots of carbon is generally a good idea [04:27]
asciilifeform ;;google bioscavenger [04:27]
gribble PharmAthene | Bioscavenger: ; The Center For Catalytic Bioscavenger Medical Defense Research: ; Army Seeks Development of Bioscavenger Prophylactics for ...: [04:27]
mircea_popescu and incidentally, i live in the world's capital for arsenic poisoning [04:27]
decimation really? [04:27]
mircea_popescu myeah. [04:28]
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sxejno so mircea, arsenic aside, but still on the topic of toxins, have you heard any more from the US SEC or whatever other agencies? [04:31]
mircea_popescu no, but in an amusing development every noob in the space has started pretending they got one too. [04:32]
sxejno ahaha [04:33]
sxejno none here, since early 2011 [04:33]
sxejno haha [04:33]
mircea_popescu where is here again ? [04:33]
BingoBoingo I still only have that one front door visit from the feds [04:34]
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sxejno in the land of the free [04:35]
mircea_popescu sxejno what languages do you translate to/from ? [04:36]
sxejno haha, I could tell you, but you could find out if you know that much. [04:39]
TheNewDeal land of the free - is that sub-saharan africa? [04:39]
sxejno If you haven't found out in a few minutes I'll tell you [04:39]
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BingoBoingo Gawker toxic to advertizers: http://adland.tv/adnews/gawker-toxic-brands-who-partner-them/1291467968 [04:41]
assbot Gawker is toxic to brands who partner with them | adland.tv [04:41]
nara_narayana http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/28/us-hungary-internet-protest-idUSKBN0IH29M20141028 [04:42]
assbot Around 100,000 Hungarians rally for democracy as internet tax hits nerve| Reuters [04:42]
mircea_popescu !up nara_narayana [04:43]
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mircea_popescu Gawker toxic to advertizers: http://adland.tv/adnews/gawker-toxic-brands-who-partner-them/1291467968 << this is quite true, and not just of them. [04:43]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I'm just amazed that in the battle ov Redditors vs. Shitty Journos, both sides are losing so profoundly [04:44]
nara_narayana it's rhetoric is degrading quickly on both sides [04:45]
nara_narayana *its [04:45]
nara_narayana one can only laugh [04:45]
BingoBoingo I mean Gawker particularly calls people out on harassment yet they wrote: http://gawker.com/335894/peter-thiel-is-totally-gay-people [04:46]
assbot Peter Thiel is totally gay, people [04:46]
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nara_narayana what are you, homophobic? [04:47]
BingoBoingo No [04:47]
BingoBoingo Just Amazing to see cast iron implements call each other out on their composition [04:47]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [04:47]
thestringpuller amazing like south park [04:48]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [04:48]
jurov not composition, color [04:48]
sxejno so did you figure out my languages, mircea? [04:48]
nara_narayana should have put a /s [04:48]
BingoBoingo jurov: Well, sure [04:48]
jurov "you pot iron!" "you zamak!" [04:49]
BingoBoingo !b 5 [04:49]
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BingoBoingo Is black zamak a thing yet? [04:49]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo no, it's how it works. [04:50]
mircea_popescu ;;google translate nigger to russian [04:51]
gribble (google translate [to] ) -- Returns translated from into . Beware that translating to or from languages that use multi-byte characters may result in some very odd results. [04:51]
mircea_popescu (it's негр, for the record) [04:51]
decimation lol [04:52]
mircea_popescu негр цинка [04:52]
jurov αράπης (google said) [04:53]
mircea_popescu arapos [04:53]
BingoBoingo !b 3 [04:53]
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mircea_popescu that means arab. it's how you say "slave" in romanian, incidentally. [04:53]
mircea_popescu because all romanians knew of slaves was through the arabic slaves of the medieval turks. [04:53]
jurov črnuh << somalian [04:54]
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kakobrekla hey hey! [04:55]
mircea_popescu lol [04:55]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9T_SvPlb8w [04:56]
assbot Oci Ciornie - YouTube [04:56]
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mircea_popescu guy learned russian phonetically, it sounds totally like ai. [04:56]
undata "Like the immigrant Jews who created Hollywood a century ago, a gay investor has no way to fit into the old establishment." << pffffffff [04:59]
nara_narayana he is reading a script [04:59]
undata shit, I was scrolled up. That was from the Thiel article [04:59]
undata ah, not as scrolled as I thought. [04:59]
undata on a restaurant nearby someone spraypainted "gay is race" [04:59]
mircea_popescu undata wait, you disagree from experience about the gay fitting, or you're shocked and surprised that thiel may actually take your peculiar payment ? [05:00]
undata apparently trying to make the same idiotic point [05:00]
undata mircea_popescu: I disgree that it's worth mentioning [05:00]
mircea_popescu hm. [05:00]
mircea_popescu what else isn't worth mentioning ? [05:00]
nara_narayana sexual orientation, i would say [05:01]
mircea_popescu i mention it all the time! [05:01]
mircea_popescu or is it only for fags ? [05:01]
undata mircea_popescu: the writer is trying to cast himself as part of some team which Thiel brings some kind of social progress honor to [05:01]
undata the two people have nothing of note in common [05:02]
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mircea_popescu ah that. well certainly. [05:02]
nara_narayana in matters such as this, i couldn't care less where you stick your penis [05:02]
mircea_popescu kinda the job of internet nobodies, innit ? "i saw x thing on google trends now i'm going to write about it in a vain but strongly held hope that mayhap the association may benefit me" [05:02]
mircea_popescu decentralized commercial copywriting, [05:02]
nara_narayana lol [05:03]
mircea_popescu how about http://41.media.tumblr.com/721f372d53619c48f717fd4e5ecee191/tumblr_msug1910Ri1sozibeo1_500.jpg nara_narayana ? [05:03]
nara_narayana lordy [05:03]
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mircea_popescu Lycerion, ce din genuni rasari cu-o-ntreaga lume, nu cere semne si minuni care n-au chip si nume. [05:04]
decimation http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/ << "Recently, there was a thread on Reddit asking – Redditors Against Gay Marriage, What Is Your Best Supporting Argument? A Reddit user who didn’t understand how anybody could be against gay marriage honestly wanted to know how other people who were against it justified their position. ... It soon became clear that nobody there was actually against [05:08]
decimation gay marriage." [05:08]
assbot I Can Tolerate Anything Except The Outgroup | Slate Star Codex [05:08]
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thestringpuller https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/1132-open-letter-to-bitcoin-businesses-why-im-closing-my-accounts/ [05:08]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: guy learned russian phonetically, it sounds totally like ai << gets worse. 1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmAxM5GixMM 2) (danger! bagpipe) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep0LMkJBBbs [05:09]
assbot Katusha - Ottoman Military Band and Red Army Choir - YouTube [05:09]
assbot _-_ - YouTube [05:09]
asciilifeform (1 - turks. 2 - jp) [05:09]
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mircea_popescu lol manele katjusha [05:10]
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mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt1vQ81jNWw << one of the better such scenes. [05:11]
assbot Scene from "Casablanca" movie - YouTube [05:11]
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TheNewDeal thestringpuller : oh isn't that speeshal [05:16]
asciilifeform decimation: It soon became clear that nobody there was actually against << http://www.republibot.com/content/book-review-%E2%80%9C-star-diaries%E2%80%9D-stanislaw-lem-1971 >> grep 'eleventh voyage.' [05:18]
assbot BOOK REVIEW: The Star Diaries by Stanislaw Lem (1971) | Republibot [05:18]
asciilifeform (spoiler alert) [05:18]
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decimation asciilifeform: interesting - it seems doctor who ripped this guy off [05:24]
asciilifeform in usa (?) they recently put out a film purporting to be a riff on his epic 'futurological congress' [05:25]
mircea_popescu i have nfi how anyone even uses any of the sites in the gawker empire of crap. and incidentally tech crunch or mashable are exacly the same shit : exactly 0 comments, no content, just a bunch of pointless, flashy page elements. [05:25]
mircea_popescu i would be very surprised if the "top 10" blogs actually get any reads at all. [05:26]
asciilifeform advanced spamatronics. [05:26]
mircea_popescu srsly. [05:27]
thestringpuller woot woot [05:27]
thestringpuller world series is goin to game 7 [05:27]
mircea_popescu i mean watsapp lost money ? heh. all these derps only survive exactly on the myspace ticket : old people like ted turner have nfi what's what online, [05:27]
mircea_popescu and so they keep pouring money in. [05:27]
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mircea_popescu !up bitspill_ [05:27]
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mircea_popescu !up bitstein [05:27]
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decimation if morality is only that which arouses sympathies - an each man has his own unique sentiment - how is moral discussion possible, given no constant set of assumptions to build upon? [05:28]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: and so they keep pouring money in. << 55 employees and purchased for 19 billion? [05:28]
thestringpuller ;;calc 19000000000 / 55 [05:29]
gribble 345454545.455 [05:29]
thestringpuller ^- per capita? [05:29]
decimation they are very important people you see [05:29]
mircea_popescu decimation what constant set of assumption do we have in common ? [05:29]
thestringpuller if there were text book example for "The Case of Too Much Money" this would be in that chapter. [05:29]
mircea_popescu or for that matter, what constant set of assumptions do physicists have in common ? if discussion relied on constant assumptions, science'd be in principle impossible. [05:30]
decimation empricism [05:30]
mircea_popescu how is that constant ? [05:30]
mircea_popescu empiricism is about as constant as beauty. [05:30]
decimation no, I mean empricism is in principle impossible, not science [05:31]
mircea_popescu how do you distinguish ? [05:31]
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mats_cd03 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8522247 << hn is so disappointing sometimes [05:32]
assbot Smuggling Snowden Secrets | Hacker News [05:32]
mats_cd03 top comment conflates gpg with pgp, ten odd comments in a useless discussion about key exchange and comms over the same channel, five comments by a bunch of fucking dummies talking about key signing parties, and a few pumping keybase [05:32]
decimation that which can be synthesized without reference to sensory experience [05:33]
mircea_popescu mats_cd03 seems about par for the hnourse. [05:33]
mircea_popescu decimation so metaphysics ? [05:34]
decimation heh yeah I've been reading kant [05:34]
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asciilifeform hn << notice how the circus has all of the obligatory clowns, acrobats. including the inescapable shitgnomes pushing 'keybase' etc. [05:50]
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ben_vulpes from the shitgnome lulzotron: https://github.com/keybase/keybase-issues/issues/160 [05:51]
assbot Uploading private keys puts users at risk Issue #160 keybase/keybase-issues GitHub [05:51]
mircea_popescu o.O [05:52]
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ben_vulpes " I'd like my secret key on multiple machines, and I don't know how to move it around easily." [05:54]
ben_vulpes "Although I agree that it's totally insecure, no matter how you sugar coat it--I really don't think it's a feature that should be removed." [05:54]
mircea_popescu he probably doesn't think windows is a feature that should be removed either. [05:55]
ben_vulpes here's a wack notion [05:56]
thestringpuller dude these comments are just [05:56]
ben_vulpes if i spin up two bitcoinds and use cli arg '-connect' to point them at each other, can they mine? [05:56]
thestringpuller these people exist? [05:56]
bounce "insecurity is a feature we should not remove" [05:56]
ben_vulpes can/will [05:56]
ben_vulpes wacky* [05:56]
asciilifeform bounce: recall the 'null ciphers' in ssl et al [05:56]
asciilifeform classic shitgnomery [05:56]
asciilifeform 'must give the option of shooting self in head' [05:57]
asciilifeform never know when you might want to! [05:57]
asciilifeform esp. in the middle of a connection. [05:57]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes yes. [05:57]
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ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: have you seen what happens when they hit a 'checkpoint'? [05:58]
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mircea_popescu you'll have to hack the checkpoints in [05:59]
ben_vulpes (also i'm assuming that you're not trolling me and saying "yes they'll mine in the sense of hashing loltworotlzlzlzl") [05:59]
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ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: i'm more inclined to hack the checkpoints out. [05:59]
ben_vulpes but this could be retarded - i don't actually know. [06:00]
mircea_popescu i don't see a problem with their going away. [06:00]
* ben_vulpes suspects checkpoints are the dumb thing here [06:00]
mircea_popescu and yes, they will mine, on their own chain, obviously. [06:00]
ben_vulpes that's what i suspected. [06:00]
ben_vulpes look at that! regtest mode implemented in configuration. no chainparams.cpp necessary. [06:00]
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ben_vulpes (theoretically, ofc). [06:01]
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thestringpuller !t h AM1 [06:02]
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decimation these usg regulatory letters are hilarious [06:03]
decimation "we find that we are in charge" [06:03]
BingoBoingo Yeah [06:03]
* mircea_popescu is nonplussed with the retards squirming around the edges of bitcoin failing to point out that "hey sec, mp's cock isn't going to suck itself, get busy" [06:05]
mircea_popescu buncha retarded kids. [06:05]
decimation I was reading the fincen letter to bitpay [06:05]
decimation as if fincen is ever going to say "sure you can do whatever you want without asking us again" [06:05]
mircea_popescu http://graywolfseo.com/google/google-steal-traffic/ [06:16]
assbot How Google Plans to Steal More of Your Traffic [06:16]
mircea_popescu this is to me an interesting thing, because it's an exact reprise of the craftsman vs entrepreneur arguments that raged in the early modern period, resulting in the ip laws in the first place. [06:17]
mircea_popescu you see, back cca 1800, a guy who figured out how to fix a loom would do anything BUT explain it to anyone [06:17]
mircea_popescu because that knowledge meant a livelihood, whereas education meant competition. [06:17]
mircea_popescu today, people go "do not put xml schemas on your recipes, because that's only going to help large data crunchers profit - not you" [06:18]
mircea_popescu exactly the same thing. [06:18]
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bounce that makes patent warchests more than a little ironic [06:21]
mircea_popescu how you mean ? [06:21]
bounce they're the tool of big corporates and patent trolls, exactly the opposite of protecting the small craftsman [06:23]
mircea_popescu ah ah. myeah. the problem with "fixes" is that they always degenerate. [06:23]
mircea_popescu that's why problems should be approached radically or not at all. [06:24]
bounce like radicals don't degenerate [06:24]
mircea_popescu they can't. [06:24]
mircea_popescu what i mean here : anything which is ulterior ontologically to the problem is a fix. anything that is anterior ontologically to the problem and is incompatible with the problem's existence is a radical aproach. [06:25]
mircea_popescu so, if a river bothers you, building a dam is a fix. making water a physical impossibility is a (very) radical approach. [06:25]
mircea_popescu the fix degenerates (water can say break the dam and flood you, which is worse an outcome). the radical approach can't degenerate, because it has not where to. [06:26]
decimation for instance, beheading the king and declaring The People sovereign [06:27]
bounce look at any state that rose out of "revolution" only never shed it [06:28]
mircea_popescu decimation that's a fix. it fails to make kings impossible, so it degenerates, to a shittier kingdom [06:28]
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mircea_popescu (necessarily shittier because well, it won't say its name) [06:28]
decimation good point. I guess the radical approach would be to murder all humans [06:28]
mircea_popescu lobotomy comes to mind. [06:29]
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mircea_popescu anyway, this observation is not particularly useful in politics, but it is useful in technology. [06:29]
decimation yeah it's impossible to unhuman humanity, but it's quite possible to unintel computers [06:30]
undata mircea_popescu: I've said before in regards to software architecture that inherent is better than explicit (in response to the python thing). Yours is much better said. [06:30]
undata the python thing being implicit vs explicit [06:31]
asciilifeform and incidentally! [06:32]
asciilifeform http://loper-os.org/pub/bitcoin-asciilifeform.4-goodbye-win32.tar.gz [06:32]
decimation ya [06:32]
decimation I was just patching my junk [06:32]
* asciilifeform cleans blaster [06:32]
decimation does that include all of your previous patches? [06:32]
asciilifeform aye [06:32]
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mircea_popescu undata yeah it's an old idea fo sho. [06:33]
ben_vulpes hey it's a little warty but here's what's cookin: http://therealbitcoin.org/ [06:33]
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decimation asciilifeform: starting to use bsd after linux for decades makes me feel like I'm in a funhouse [06:33]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes who ever said the best cooks aren't men! [06:33]
asciilifeform gentlemen, please check patches [06:33]
asciilifeform rather than simply assuming that i don't smoke crack [06:33]
ben_vulpes gentlemen, please check patches i've published as well [06:34]
* asciilifeform did [06:34]
ben_vulpes it's late and i'm banging my head against the opaque mess that is the amazon key-value store. [06:34]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: the patches just now published, specifically. [06:34]
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asciilifeform ben_vulpes: let's mirror 0.5.3 there [06:34]
ben_vulpes a grand idea [06:34]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: these differ from last night's ? [06:34]
asciilifeform i only see 'chicken' and 'rm_rf... [06:34]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: couldn't hurt to check... [06:35]
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asciilifeform ben_vulpes: might want to do a live-fire test on latest turd [06:36]
asciilifeform 'loc' steadily going down [06:37]
asciilifeform if only this could continue! [06:37]
asciilifeform 'suppose every program can be shortened by a line, and contains a bug. therefore all programs can be reduced to one line - which does not work.' - ??? [06:38]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: sapper must know his limits. [06:38]
ben_vulpes uh [06:39]
ben_vulpes well [06:39]
ben_vulpes i did the s3 thing [06:39]
ben_vulpes and...see nothing. [06:39]
asciilifeform s3? [06:39]
ben_vulpes shit is cached somewhere infuriating. [06:40]
ben_vulpes the amazon key-value store jurov backed therealbitcoin.org with [06:40]
ben_vulpes http semantics for up/downloading [06:40]
ben_vulpes black magic cross-dc replication [06:40]
* ben_vulpes gives up [06:41]
ben_vulpes all i want is to surface these text files to the internet :( [06:41]
ben_vulpes and all i have is borrowed borrowed borrowed leased and micro-sharded hardware on which to put it [06:41]
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* asciilifeform hosts on dead bear, uploads with flint modem [06:43]
* asciilifeform would like to snip macos next [06:45]
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* asciilifeform wonders who, if anyone, would shed a tear for macos [06:45]
ben_vulpes i've never successfully built it. [06:45]
decimation me neither [06:46]
decimation you end up in dependency hell very quickly [06:46]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: then perhaps you should do the honour of shooting it in the head [06:46]
ben_vulpes build environment is a snowflake. [06:46]
decimation what is even macos specific? [06:46]
decimation should be pretty similar to bsd, assuming user supplies paths to all dependencies [06:46]
asciilifeform decimation: grep [06:46]
decimation heh [06:46]
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asciilifeform i've been saving the death of macos for last, such that we can determine that its removal does not bork *bsd [06:47]
ben_vulpes and interrupt this roll you're on? [06:47]
ben_vulpes i shant, no. [06:47]
asciilifeform lol [06:47]
asciilifeform i might like to, say, do a little bit of actual work tomorrow. [06:48]
ben_vulpes plus, wrangling multiparty gpg sigs. [06:48]
asciilifeform let others claim some easy hunting. [06:48]
asciilifeform this is going to turn into actual work quite soon (when we start snipping tissue that must be replaced, rather than merely cremated) [06:48]
asciilifeform e.g., json rpc [06:49]
ben_vulpes wallet [06:49]
* asciilifeform Just Wanted A Fucking Book [06:49]
ben_vulpes punkman: would it be terribly onerous to get deedbot to certify that multiple documents signed by different people are in fact the same document and that all of the signatures verify? [06:50]
asciilifeform ^ important [06:50]
ben_vulpes mod6 and i have burnt approximately an hour total trying to pretzel gpg into the correct contortions, and it's not working for us. [06:50]
ben_vulpes er, an hour each. [06:50]
decimation I"m running into some kind of build error on openbsd [06:51]
decimation INADDR_NONE AF_INET stuff [06:51]
ben_vulpes implementing the mailing list hack you suggested throws a digest error. [06:52]
asciilifeform incidentally, looks like bitcoind only supports little-endian cpu. [06:53]
decimation based on magic numbers? [06:53]
asciilifeform based on i-can't-be-bothered-quite-now-what [06:53]
* asciilifeform to bed [06:53]
* ben_vulpes as well [06:54]
* decimation too [06:54]
ben_vulpes arbeit machtzzzzzzz [06:54]
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ben_vulpes lies [07:06]
ben_vulpes so here's what mod6 and i figured out [07:06]
ben_vulpes if each party runs gpg --output out.sig --sign --armor thing-to-sign.txt, you can run gpg --decrypt out.sig on the blob [07:06]
mod6 (PGP MESSAGE) [07:07]
ben_vulpes (you being punkbot or anyone verifying contracts) [07:07]
ben_vulpes that will *both* check the signature *and* show you the signed blob. [07:07]
mod6 each party will want to name ``out.sig'' something different obv. [07:07]
ben_vulpes the cleartext of multiple versions of the same contract can be compared to each other [07:08]
ben_vulpes perhaps this is academic though [07:08]
mod6 so in this case, ben.sig & mod6.sig, each yields a PGP armored message, that's just a signed file that can be verified. [07:08]
ben_vulpes and the parties should all deedify independently. [07:08]
ben_vulpes lol now that i spell it out parties should deedify seperately. [07:08]
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ben_vulpes .deed http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=VsTnvwB8 [07:20]
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undata http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/10/28/bitbeat-bitcoin-2-0-companies-respond-to-sec-rumor-were-clean/ "He added that anyone who purchased newly issued XCP with bitcoin did so through a “proof of burn” method that renders the incoming bitcoin unusable, ensuring that no material benefit passes to Counterparty or its owners." << Regarding the recent conversation with TheNewDeal on BTC burn -> [07:37]
assbot BitBeat: Bitcoin 2.0 Companies Respond to SEC Rumor: We’re Clean - MoneyBeat - WSJ [07:37]
undata altcoin, this reveals the real reason: avoiding the fucking government, not economics. [07:37]
undata that was apparently too long a line, meant to be one. [07:38]
undata Here's your proof of burn: http://pigroll.com/img/i_am_serious_now.jpg [07:39]
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mircea_popescu punkman: would it be terribly onerous to get deedbot to certify that multiple documents signed by different people are in fact the same document and that all of the signatures verify? <<< this is not conceptually possible tho. [09:10]
mircea_popescu onus remains on reader. [09:10]
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mircea_popescu cazalla BingoBoingo https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net <<< and it's under 300k :D [16:53]
assbot Qntra.net Traffic and Demographic Statistics by Quantcast [16:53]
nubbins` http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/news/nathan-cirillo-inspired-racism-experiment-ends-with-punch-to-face-1.2816837 [16:54]
assbot Nathan Cirillo-inspired racism 'experiment' ends with punch to face - Latest Hamilton news - CBC Hamilton [16:54]
nubbins` good guy canadians [16:54]
mircea_popescu "mom, look at me, i r filmmaker!!!!" ? [16:57]
asciilifeform thickasthieves: rng << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-10-2014#900085 [16:57]
assbot Logged on 28-10-2014 12:47:11; asciilifeform: undata: onerng.info << best lulz! this calls for a mini-review. [16:57]
asciilifeform thickasthieves: and i vaguely recall that mircea_popescu was thinking of writing to them. no idea what came of that [16:58]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i did, they answered (both guys), seemed reasonable enough, gave them a link to here. [16:59]
mod6 lol, the ole right hook to the nose [16:59]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: reasonable << now i'm curious. 'aha we'll seppuku now!' ...or 'aha we'll crib yours we promise!' or...? [17:00]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform ima paste it a sec. [17:07]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform http://pastebin.com/VGF7u0DN [17:10]
assbot On Tue, October 28, 2014 6:00 pm, Paul Campbell wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 10 - Pastebin.com [17:10]
thickasthieves coinfire.cf went back online via bitcoinvps, now they are ddos'd [17:11]
mircea_popescu aww [17:12]
johntraveller @mircea_popescu thanks, I just came across your blog via your comment on xenosystems [17:12]
mircea_popescu hello there. [17:12]
mircea_popescu so how do you like it ? [17:13]
johntraveller @micrea_popescu hello. yes, lots of good stuff. good to have my opinions of ethereum/altcoins/etc seconded [17:13]
mircea_popescu incidentally, is this "traveller" thing some sort of reference, because i keep seeying it. [17:14]
johntraveller have you been following moldbug/nrx for long? [17:14]
mircea_popescu i have in fact not followed either for any interval at all. these other guys do, maybe decimation is the local authority on yarvin. asciilifeform used to have a battleship or w/e it was called in his leaky snowglobe. [17:14]
mircea_popescu as far as i'm concerned i sent him a challenge when he was being dumb. http://trilema.com/2013/stage-n-bitcoin-exists/ [17:15]
assbot Stage n: Bitcoin exists. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [17:15]
mircea_popescu never heard from him again as it were. [17:15]
mircea_popescu and im not even sure what nrx is. this chick that follows these things pointed it out here, but i don't think it's been followed up. [17:16]
mircea_popescu !s nrx [17:16]
assbot 4 results for 'nrx' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=nrx [17:16]
johntraveller imo moldbug’s most interesting writing is on the history of progressivism, and how it evolved from puritanism [17:16]
mircea_popescu here's a handy tool : [17:16]
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mircea_popescu saves me from having to repeat myself :) [17:17]
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asciilifeform 'we're making entropy - not a full random number generator, something to feed it' << ???!?? [17:19]
TomServo ;;later tell nubbins` any interest? << I'm interested. Will it be another sight unseen deal? [17:19]
gribble The operation succeeded. [17:19]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you familiar with the theory of constant improvement ? [17:19]
asciilifeform hm? [17:20]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform ok, something like this : two brothers, same age, both wish to get married. this takes money. brother #1 goes into an apprenticeship, money's not good, but it slowly adds up, one year later he's saved enough. [17:21]
diametric http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2014/10/28/4 [17:21]
assbot oss-security - ftp(1) can be made execute arbitrary commands by malicious webserver [17:21]
mircea_popescu borther #2 doesn't think anything of this working for no good money bs, takes a loan, goes on a trading trip, a year later he's back, pays off his loan, has enough leftover to marry. [17:21]
mircea_popescu both strategies work, in practice. either proceed correctly or proceed gradually. [17:21]
mircea_popescu diametric different i take it from any of the other 50 or so similar issues over the years ? [17:22]
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asciilifeform new. [17:22]
asciilifeform well, newly unearthed [17:22]
mircea_popescu open fucking source. a billion eyes, yo. then next you know, everything is a piece of shit. [17:23]
mircea_popescu "o, but we're fixing it". [17:23]
asciilifeform point of shit, piece of sale [17:23]
mircea_popescu yeah, yeah. how's this different from the politicians ? they're also "fixing it" [17:23]
diametric mircea_popescu: its comically bad. basically they reused the popen feature when using -o with a pipe, when omitting the -o option and instead deriving it from the url.. [17:23]
mircea_popescu nevermind that they broke it in the first place. [17:23]
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mircea_popescu diametric the original, gentlemanly internet is a fucking curse to the current internet. [17:24]
mircea_popescu it created so many bad habits... [17:24]
asciilifeform rng << it is so easy to build a proper rng, the astonishing part is that there are not 500 people selling them for fifty cents. [17:24]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform people gotta learn how. [17:24]
diametric http://cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.bin/ftp/fetch.c#rev1.96 i guess nobody fucking reads. [17:25]
assbot CVS log for src/usr.bin/ftp/fetch.c [17:25]
diametric fixed 5 years ago in openbsd. [17:25]
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mircea_popescu diametric nobody fucking reads. [17:25]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: they can crack open a copy of, e.g, 'horowitz and hill' (1980) - it doesn't bite [17:25]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform how are they to know ? [17:26]
mircea_popescu understand, us college is unlikely to mention that, too busy talking about irigaray and the rest of the worthless fuckwits [17:26]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i even studied in usa, and it was mentioned, wtf [17:26]
mircea_popescu check your privilege. [17:27]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: irigaray of e=mc^2-is-racist fame? [17:27]
mircea_popescu "because it privileges the speed of light over other speeds that are much more important to us" [17:27]
mircea_popescu also famous for being the only idiot ~lacan~ threw out for being an idiot. [17:27]
mircea_popescu lacan, you understand me ? the original "i cnat raed here's some words because words" [17:28]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: lol! [17:28]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i didn't think the irigarists were designing electronics. or... are they [17:29]
mircea_popescu stupidity is pervasive. [17:29]
mircea_popescu the idea that if you allow i dunno, the gardening club to be stupid the stupidity will sit there contained is beyond naive. [17:29]
mircea_popescu within a decade you get mathgardening clamoring for grants. [17:30]
undata "They also take issue with the assertion that fluid mechanics is unfairly neglected because it deals with "feminine" fluids in contrast to "masculine" rigid mechanics." << there are such feminists here in Portland [17:30]
asciilifeform mechanics of feminine fluids? [17:31]
undata ...WHO says men don't produce fluids? [17:31]
mircea_popescu speaking of which, http://trilema.com/2011/moment-de-intimitate-n-baie/ [17:31]
assbot Moment de intimitate-n baie pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [17:32]
mircea_popescu the whys and wherefores taking a leak on your girl is nice. [17:32]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25563 @ 0.00078994 = 20.1932 BTC [+] {4} [17:34]
mircea_popescu punkman so what's happened to the bot ? dead ? [17:34]
asciilifeform 'any periodic noise that makes it through simply reduces the bits/byte number of the entropy and gets smeared out by subsequent whitening' << is he serious? gotta be trolling [17:35]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18701 @ 0.00078815 = 14.7392 BTC [-] {4} [17:36]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform remember the people who think whitening does something ? [17:37]
punkman mircea_popescu: will be up shortly [17:37]
mircea_popescu !up johntraveller [17:37]
-assbot- You voiced johntraveller for 30 minutes. [17:37]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'he turned off the light, so the room will be empty' [17:38]
mircea_popescu :p [17:38]
punkman added transaction broadcast retrying, and also bot will stop bundling if previous bundle tx remains unconfirmed [17:38]
mircea_popescu what do you mean stop bundling ? [17:38]
punkman it won't make a new bundle, will leave deeds pending [17:39]
mircea_popescu is this useful ? [17:39]
punkman well gotta confirm previous tx to spent again [17:39]
punkman because only one tx in address [17:39]
mircea_popescu yeah but i mean, better to queue the made txn than this i think [17:39]
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mircea_popescu consider the following situation : bundle 1 gets made, added, gets 1 confirm. bundle 2 gets created, gets added just as the blockchain reogrs. [17:40]
mircea_popescu now 1 is unconfirmend again, 2 is ocnfirmed however. [17:40]
joecool joesmoe johntraveller johntraveller_ Jondo jordandotdev [17:40]
joecool joesmoe johntraveller johntraveller_ Jondo jordandotdev [17:40]
mircea_popescu !up johntraveller_ [17:40]
-assbot- You voiced johntraveller_ for 30 minutes. [17:40]
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punkman it has a queue, can just set max_unconfirmed [17:40]
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mircea_popescu k so then it can just proceed with the bundles normally, irrespective of what happened to previous bundle. [17:41]
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punkman also, now there is http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/deed/BXZKQx2i/json and http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/deed/BXZKQx2i/raw [17:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17101 @ 0.00079421 = 13.5818 BTC [+] {2} [17:43]
mircea_popescu ah splendid [17:46]
johntraveller mircea_popescu: thanks, though I’m planning on lurking for a while until I’ve read more [17:46]
mircea_popescu cool. [17:46]
punkman and http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/bundle/149LB8VY/json [17:46]
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asciilifeform anybody else build my no. 4 patch ? [17:47]
mircea_popescu johntraveller http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets << also a good thing to read, as a primer on the technology that is the fundament of our superiority. [17:47]
assbot first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki] [17:47]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6635 @ 0.00079444 = 5.2711 BTC [+] [17:48]
punkman if anyone has a clue about bc.info tags, let me know why it hasn't verified https://blockchain.info/tags?filter=16 [17:48]
assbot Bitcoin Address Tags - Blockchain.info [17:48]
johntraveller and sit in my $200/mo apartment in china, slowly converting my british fiat into btc and planning business ideas that work once the fed’s printing presses stop spinnng [17:49]
mircea_popescu punkman is the address on the linked page ? [17:49]
punkman yeah [17:49]
mircea_popescu maybe they've not got to it yet. [17:49]
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mircea_popescu johntraveller in that case you'd better get in the wot asap. [17:49]
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thickasthieves https://bitcoinfoundation.org/forum/index.php?/topic/1132-open-letter-to-bitcoin-businesses-why-im-closing-my-accounts/ [17:52]
assbot Open Letter to Bitcoin Businesses: Why I'm closing my accounts - General - Bitcoin Foundation [17:52]
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mircea_popescu thickasthieves was here yest :D [17:53]
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thickasthieves sry i'm way behind [17:54]
mircea_popescu http://52weeksofux.com/ << [17:58]
assbot 52 Weeks of UX [17:58]
mircea_popescu of ux you see. [17:59]
asciilifeform 52 week so fux [17:59]
mircea_popescu one year in Fux [17:59]
bounce none were given [17:59]
mircea_popescu lol [18:00]
mircea_popescu "Let’s take a moment and chat. No secrets or techniques this time, I just want to take a post and discuss my own personal strategies for consistently dominating almost every niche I enter. Instead of creating an objective and methodologies I’m just going to casually write and talk some details, because of course my strategies require quite a bit of work and aren’t for everyone." [18:01]
mircea_popescu of course. [18:01]
los_pantalones hahahahha [18:01]
mircea_popescu security ? "of course". not for everyone ? "of course". for everyone ? "of course!" [18:01]
mircea_popescu poor of course. [18:01]
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mircea_popescu http://41.media.tumblr.com/52ce5e8ead58f62482a9ae7f96f9c7c5/tumblr_n8k4d0zXxN1s7xduro1_500.jpg << if only that were a nailgun, she could be a banker callgirl. [18:05]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46300 @ 0.00078741 = 36.4571 BTC [-] {3} [18:10]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25900 @ 0.00078626 = 20.3641 BTC [-] {2} [18:15]
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kakobrekla ;;ticker [18:23]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 340.48, Best ask: 340.63, Bid-ask spread: 0.15000, Last trade: 340.63, 24 hour volume: 11877.38045173, 24 hour low: 337.74, 24 hour high: 359.5, 24 hour vwap: 348.749963197 [18:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21500 @ 0.0007858 = 16.8947 BTC [-] {2} [18:25]
jurov http://explo.yt/post/2014/10/29/some-dangerous-idea << my braindump about turdatron [18:25]
assbot Some dangerous idea - serialized delusions [18:25]
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jurov asciilifeform: ^ [18:26]
jurov upon seeing the result.. well, i quite stepped into something [18:28]
asciilifeform jurov: neato! [18:29]
mod6 nice jurov :) [18:34]
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mircea_popescu !up elementofone [18:39]
-assbot- You voiced elementofone for 30 minutes. [18:39]
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elementofone whats up [18:39]
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mircea_popescu not much. who are you ? [18:40]
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thestringpuller ;;seen cazalla [18:40]
gribble cazalla was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 14 hours, 31 minutes, and 35 seconds ago: http://qntra.net/2014/10/mit-bitcoin-project-goes-live/ less than a week to claim the coins, i wonder if what remains will be pocketed by someone [18:40]
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thestringpuller ;;seen BingoBoingo [18:40]
gribble BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 12 hours, 36 minutes, and 39 seconds ago: Yeah [18:40]
thestringpuller damn the editors are asleep [18:40]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller didja need somethin' ? [18:41]
elementofone ;; elementofone [18:41]
gribble Error: "elementofone" is not a valid command. [18:41]
elementofone ;;seen elementofone [18:41]
gribble elementofone was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 5 seconds ago: ;; elementofone [18:41]
asciilifeform meowmix. [18:41]
elementofone ;;seen meowmix [18:41]
gribble meowmix was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 weeks, 1 day, 16 hours, 58 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: !b 50 [18:41]
elementofone how many bitcoins is $400,000 worth? [18:42]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: had an article I wrote last night. BingoBoingo said he'd be in "the office" in the morning. I guess I can just send to their inbox. [18:42]
elementofone how many bitcoins is $400,000 worth? [18:43]
mircea_popescu prolly safe to email then followup [18:43]
elementofone HOW MANY BITCOINS IS $400000 WORTH? [18:43]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform the ip or what ? [18:43]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the smell. [18:43]
mircea_popescu lol k [18:44]
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undata elementofone: loud idiot from mass; who'd have expected that... [18:45]
kakobrekla o fuk [18:46]
kakobrekla i just had the best meat plate i had in years! [18:46]
* kakobrekla in tears [18:46]
mircea_popescu girlfriend ? [18:46]
kakobrekla wha? [18:46]
elementofone who is meowmix? [18:46]
mircea_popescu what meat was it ? [18:46]
kakobrekla ah all sorts [18:47]
elementofone !s meowmix [18:49]
assbot 16 results for 'meowmix' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=meowmix [18:49]
elementofone !s !down [18:50]
assbot 4548 results for '!down' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%21down [18:50]
elementofone !s !up [18:50]
assbot 18611 results for '!up' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%21up [18:50]
elementofone !s christmas [18:50]
assbot 98 results for 'christmas' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=christmas [18:50]
elementofone !s merry christmas [18:50]
assbot 1 results for 'merry christmas' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=merry+christmas [18:50]
TomServo !down elementofone [18:50]
thestringpuller TomServo beat me to it [18:50]
elementofone nooo waaa [18:50]
asciilifeform !down elementofone [18:50]
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TomServo Tried do.. but I bliped it seems. [18:51]
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mircea_popescu 18k ups, that's something. [18:56]
kakobrekla its less. [18:56]
mircea_popescu oh ? [18:57]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 24 * 365 [18:57]
gribble 8760 [18:57]
mircea_popescu like a year's worth! [18:57]
kakobrekla it seems it disregards '!' when searching [18:57]
mircea_popescu o i c [18:58]
jurov http://cyber.bgu.ac.il/content/how-leak-sensitive-data-isolated-computer-air-gap-near-mobile-phone-airhopper [19:00]
assbot How to leak sensitive data from an isolated computer (air-gap) to a near by mobile phone - AirHopper | Cyber Security Labs @ Ben Gurion University [19:00]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: ...conceptually possible << do clearsigned copies of the contract from both parties per S.WOL suffice? [19:00]
mircea_popescu yup [19:01]
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ben_vulpes this not being able to sign the same actual document thing is downright irksome. [19:01]
ben_vulpes or not validating the same doc... [19:01]
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asciilifeform phone demo << http://www.erikyyy.de/tempest << ancient classic, no news [19:01]
ben_vulpes i'd really like punkbot to take in the raw doc and .sig files. but...whatever. [19:01]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: note on s.qntr prospectus [19:04]
thestringpuller the signed IPO's are not linked on MPEx.co [19:04]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller http://mpex.co/assets/s.wol-468F4AD0.txt what dfo you mean not linked ? [19:05]
assbot MPEx, the Bitcoin securities exchange. [19:05]
mircea_popescu oh i see it's malformed. thanks! [19:05]
thestringpuller yea [19:05]
thestringpuller linked but malformed! my bad. i'm trying to get better at this words thing. [19:05]
punkman ben_vulpes: did you try the gpg multisig hack? [19:08]
asciilifeform for n00b turdatronic engineers >> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Common_Vulnerabilities_and_Exposures [19:11]
assbot Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures - Bitcoin [19:11]
ben_vulpes punkman: we did and it blew up on digests. [19:11]
asciilifeform (selectice bug list by malicious folks) [19:11]
asciilifeform (selective* [19:12]
ben_vulpes what is the net column? [19:12]
ben_vulpes ah upgrade rate [19:13]
ben_vulpes how would they know... [19:13]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: nodes polled and returned version <= it [19:13]
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ben_vulpes http://explo.yt/post/2014/10/29/some-dangerous-idea << my braindump about turdatron << UPNP was me, jurov [19:19]
assbot Some dangerous idea - serialized delusions [19:19]
jurov lol... we miss that damn thing [19:19]
asciilifeform right [19:19]
ben_vulpes forgive my mis/poor-understanding of the gpgmail thing, but... [19:21]
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ben_vulpes is a clearsigned body not adequate because risk of crlf's? [19:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7798 @ 0.00078725 = 6.139 BTC [+] [19:22]
jurov the body is only comment. patch itself will be always in attachment [19:22]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: every email system everywhere appears to feel entitled to rape plain ascii in a dozen ways [19:22]
jurov with another attachemnt the signature [19:22]
ben_vulpes so what's wrong with a needle through which interested parties must pass their messages? [19:23]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes ? [19:23]
jurov what do you mean? [19:23]
ben_vulpes those who wish to write messages to the mailing list must ensure that their messages arrive mutilated. [19:23]
ben_vulpes un*mutilated [19:23]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: how? [19:24]
ben_vulpes a bounce notification would be nice. [19:24]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: ddos vector [19:24]
jurov if you register, you'll get bounces [19:24]
rithm there's actually some new appify thing that takes source code and make pretty .pdfs from it [19:25]
jurov or it will be held for moderation, dunn how it's configured atm [19:25]
rithm fyi [19:25]
asciilifeform rithm: LaTeX [19:26]
jurov rithm, thx i remembereed lxr [19:26]
jurov it generates crosslinked html from c sources have used it to hack [19:26]
ben_vulpes so register, send messages until bounces stop [19:26]
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thestringpuller asciilifeform: would use latex [19:28]
thestringpuller oh yea i remember what I was doing [19:28]
thestringpuller !s from:asciilifeform turd [19:28]
assbot 213 results for 'from:asciilifeform turd' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Aasciilifeform+turd [19:28]
thestringpuller ^- these are pretty good [19:29]
jurov http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-10-2014#896195 [19:31]
assbot Logged on 26-10-2014 00:02:57; assbot: 374 results for 'turd' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=turd [19:31]
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ben_vulpes jurov: i don't get bounces for failed signatures. [19:31]
ben_vulpes anyways [19:31]
jurov ;;calc 213/374 [19:32]
gribble 0.569518716578 [19:32]
ben_vulpes my mail client doesn't seem to have a problem sending plaintext emails. [19:32]
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xanthyos WHO IS ANDREAS AMANONTOPOFUS? [19:35]
thestringpuller isn't he that guy on ABC news [19:35]
jurov ben_vulpes: i don't see you in memberlist [19:35]
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mircea_popescu xanthyos you mean andreas imarriedadoofus ? [19:37]
asciilifeform lxr << what a turd! wants 'apache', and to be a server, etc. [19:39]
asciilifeform i always wondered why there isn't just a gizmo that eats a source tree and craps out html where any keyword that appears more than once is hyperlinked [19:40]
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ben_vulpes jurov: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2014-October/000002.html << eh? [19:41]
mircea_popescu cuz php is the tool for that job and ppl are too good for php ? [19:41]
asciilifeform what's php to do with it? in principle it could work for any language syntax [19:43]
mircea_popescu sure. [19:43]
mircea_popescu i dunno, was my best guess. [19:43]
jurov ben_vulpes: nice [19:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20150 @ 0.00078761 = 15.8703 BTC [+] [19:44]
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ben_vulpes jurov: the unsigned email did not arrive, so i must presume your filter is doing *something* [19:45]
jurov yes i did get notification for the first one [19:45]
jurov you thought NSA ate it? [19:46]
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[]bot Bet placed: 20 BTC for No on "BTC network hashrate will exceed 1 Exahash/s before 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/713/ Odds: 11(Y):89(N) by coin, 21(Y):79(N) by weight. Total bet: 54.81502285 BTC. Current weight: 14,770. [19:48]
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mircea_popescu www.usapglobal.org/webalizer/low-concord-11s.html << the spammers thank the usap for all the free hosting/google rank [19:49]
mircea_popescu and why have a fucking email anywhere on the site ? not like you need to be warned when you got buttraped, because super-speshul and errything. [19:50]
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ben_vulpes that's a helluva bet [19:51]
mircea_popescu esp given the low weight. [19:53]
asciilifeform no one knows of a cpp to html-concordance gizmo that isn't a steaming turd ? [19:53]
mircea_popescu o wait, "in principle it could work for any language syntax" ? [19:54]
* mircea_popescu cackles [19:54]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: basic principle, you tell it how to tokenize a given language, the rest is concordance mechanism [19:54]
mircea_popescu no argument there, just... you know [19:55]
kakobrekla top [19:55]
kakobrekla eh [19:55]
mircea_popescu did you lose again ? :D [19:55]
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mircea_popescu http://www.ocmetro.com/ << orange county experts. meanwhile www.ocmetro.com/pp.aspx up their butt. [19:58]
assbot OC METRO Magazine [19:58]
mircea_popescu !up rdekley [19:58]
-assbot- You voiced rdekley for 30 minutes. [19:58]
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mircea_popescu https://www.r3.org.uk/ "R3, The Association of Business Recovery Professionals is the leading organisation for insolvency, restructuring and turnaround specialists in the UK." but meanwhile www.r3.org.uk/styles/list.cfm?id=221 nike blazar [20:01]
assbot R3: Association of Business Recovery Professionals [20:01]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://www.w3.org/Tools/Prog_lang_filters.html << classic decay of civilization. 9 of 10 links - dead. and most of the systems are for producing 'auto documentation' - that is, made for satisfying retarded management, rather than to actually aid in study of code. [20:02]
mircea_popescu yup. [20:02]
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mircea_popescu this is the thing with bitcoin. never before have been smart people motivated to consider a wide swath of issues [20:03]
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mircea_popescu from money and what poor idiots may get all the way to concordance mechanisms. [20:03]
jurov lxr is a steaming turd? [20:03]
mircea_popescu it's all been a "let the wife handle it" sort of whatever, while graham went on with "his real work" up until now. [20:04]
asciilifeform jurov: yes. wants apache. QED. [20:04]
jurov cus it's bunch of cgi scripts. [20:05]
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jurov that does not mean papache [20:05]
asciilifeform jurov: i need static html. [20:06]
mircea_popescu !up Takeshi [20:07]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: this is the thing with bitcoin << well, halfway there. stokes appetite, yes. but can't satisfy hunger by rubbing stomach. [20:11]
asciilifeform !s spreading works [20:11]
assbot 12 results for 'spreading works' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=spreading+works [20:11]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2014#802309 [20:12]
assbot Logged on 20-08-2014 06:37:37; asciilifeform: soviet scientist declares, 'we've invented a shit-to-food converter.' 'does it work?' 'sorta. spreading on bread: worlks!!11! eating - not quite yet.' [20:12]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform granted. still... a step forward, soviet! :D [20:17]
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asciilifeform world full'o'delicious spreadables. [20:17]
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bounce !up lobbes [20:19]
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lobbes ty, I have fallen from assbot's favor :/ [20:19]
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thestringpuller asciilifeform: as granin says, "To capitalism!" [20:20]
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asciilifeform to fapitalism. [20:21]
diametric https://www.drupal.org/PSA-2014-003 [20:21]
assbot Drupal Core - Highly Critical - Public Service announcement - PSA-2014-003 | Drupal.org [20:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6737 @ 0.00079009 = 5.3228 BTC [+] [20:23]
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asciilifeform ^ massive total pwn [20:24]
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punkman drupal's even worse than wordpress [20:25]
bounce is it now? [20:26]
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ben_vulpes lol drupal [20:26]
diametric statistically i'd say no [20:26]
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diametric at a previous job i had a decades worth of data involving compromised websites, and wordpress by far lead the pack in vulnerable and shitty cms [20:27]
asciilifeform statistically - christmas never comes for the goose. [20:27]
punkman well dunno about security, but once upon a time I tried to work with it and it made 0 sense [20:27]
bounce ah. vulnerability revealed! [20:27]
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mircea_popescu here's a bonus for jurov http://www.tomorrowisanotherday.de/overview/boys/#/ [20:28]
assbot Tomorrow Is Another Day [20:28]
joecool diametric: DNN would win most compromised in my experience, wordpress usually got compromised through crappy plugins (of which there are MANY to choose from) [20:29]
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mircea_popescu which one is dnn ? [20:29]
joecool dotnetnuke (asp.net shit) [20:29]
diametric joecool: quite possibly, the data i had was real world scenarios, so actual real world wordpress installations. [20:29]
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diametric which apparently includes a lot of shitty plugins. [20:30]
mircea_popescu ah. from what i see a lot of sites get owned through some sort of image plugin [20:30]
joecool timthumb [20:30]
joecool a lot a of theme designers used it [20:30]
mircea_popescu www.wagonsformemories.com/images/links-of-london-cheap-charms.html << example. [20:30]
joecool even the creator of timthumb doesn't suggest it anymore [20:30]
joecool after they fixed the issues [20:31]
mircea_popescu www.snackbox-express.li/css/THAVASA-1.html << also see a lot of shit dumped in /css/ , which is problably indicative of wp or django [20:31]
mircea_popescu di-via.ru/images/tmp/1399976090_well20142.html >> moar /images/ [20:31]
diametric "Removing a compromised website’s backdoors is difficult because it is not possible to be certain all backdoors have been found." lols. [20:32]
joecool most certainly timthumb, that script allowed you to upload any file trivially [20:32]
mircea_popescu diametric i don't think anyone tries to clean servers. reinstall is the only pill. [20:33]
diametric agreed [20:33]
diametric but almost never happens in practice [20:33]
joecool wordpress can be secured fairly well, not too many do it though (involves ripping out wp-admin from frontend and a mess of other things) [20:33]
mircea_popescu well that's because people build from the ground up with security in mind so never get owned. [20:33]
mircea_popescu joecool trilema was originally wp. [20:33]
ben_vulpes lol and what is it now mircea_popescu [20:34]
joecool mircea_popescu: did you have any compromises when it was? [20:34]
mircea_popescu i have no idea. [20:34]
mircea_popescu joecool no. here's a guy trying tho : http://trilema.com/2012/the-storm-that-was-fel/#comment-90300 [20:35]
assbot The Storm That Was Fel pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [20:35]
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mircea_popescu www.active-tools.com/Sitemanager/mulberry.asp?id=55 << also lulzy. wtf is "sitemanager" [20:35]
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kakobrekla a friend at coinbase links me http://blog.coinbase.com/post/101266587127/introducing-multisig-vault-you-can-now-control-your - thanks to jurov i can link him http://explo.yt/post/2014/10/29/some-dangerous-idea [20:40]
assbot The Coinbase Blog — Introducing Multisig Vault - You Can Now Control Your Own Private Keys On Coinbase [20:40]
assbot Some dangerous idea - serialized delusions [20:40]
kakobrekla hehe [20:40]
mircea_popescu www.negotiatinggenuinely.com/holding/admin/gucci_online_433.html << guy wrote a book. herp. [20:41]
mircea_popescu jurov it's either a dangerous idea or some dangerous ideas you know. [20:41]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: 'spam like a pro in 21 hours' ? [20:41]
jurov kakobrekla how does it relate to some derpwallet? [20:41]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform well, no, "how to negotiate". pretty sure he's a clueless twit rather than the actual spammer [20:42]
jurov fixed thx [20:42]
mircea_popescu did that break kako's url now [20:43]
mircea_popescu www.ispeacepossible.com/flv/mulberry-sale/ [20:43]
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kakobrekla it relates [20:45]
kakobrekla somebody is DOING something, and somebody else is DOING something else [20:45]
mircea_popescu im sure, just get everyone purses. [20:46]
kakobrekla ez. [20:46]
asciilifeform if the idea is 'shit we won't ever do' list - all the paper in the world would not suffice [20:46]
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kakobrekla well not all the possible shit, just shit others are doing. [20:47]
kakobrekla that would fit on paper. [20:47]
mircea_popescu can i do the somebody doing something while doing the somebody else doing the something else ? [20:48]
kakobrekla at least i hope [20:48]
kakobrekla correct [20:48]
mircea_popescu let's make it done! [20:48]
asciilifeform 'little fleas have smaller fleas, on their backs to bite them....' [20:48]
kakobrekla is there no last flea? [20:49]
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kakobrekla is the set finite in other words [20:49]
kakobrekla hello is this thing on? [20:50]
asciilifeform 'little scams have lesser scams, at their heels to scam them; and lesser scams, have lesser scams; and lesser spams... [20:50]
kakobrekla ah! i was hoping for a 'yes'. [20:51]
asciilifeform 'but greater scams have greater scams, for their chumps to go on; and greater scams - yet greater scams, and greater ones, and so on... [20:53]
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kakobrekla until you get to homeopathic levels of scam [20:55]
kakobrekla which isnt medicine arguably [20:55]
mircea_popescu http://www.ristoranteletoile.it/acquista-oakley/ << check that one out. [20:55]
assbot Oakley [20:56]
mircea_popescu oakley took over a domain that seems like it was registered by some restaurant in italy, because well... spam. [20:56]
mircea_popescu apparently it's dangerous to actually run an open spamserver on your domain name. i wonder how they did it tho. [20:56]
mircea_popescu http://gbcinternetenforcement.net/12-cv-9864b "oakley vs 100 does". now how the fuck did they get an .it domain ? [20:58]
assbot Oakley, Inc. v. DOES 1-100 et al. Case No. 12-cv-9864 | Greer, Burns & Crain, Ltd. [20:58]
asciilifeform muppeteer state vs. muppet state, no contest [20:59]
mircea_popescu uhm. [21:00]
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mircea_popescu http://www.tripadvisor.it/Restaurant_Review-g194794-d1547813-Reviews-Ristorante_L_Etoile-Lido_Di_Camaiore_Camaiore_Province_of_Lucca_Tuscany.html << meanwhile the actual place. [21:01]
assbot Ristorante L' Etoile, Lido Di Camaiore - Recensioni, Numero di Telefono & Foto - TripAdvisor [21:01]
joecool is oakley a luxottica co? [21:01]
joecool er brand [21:01]
joecool oh yes, they are [21:01]
joecool that's why [21:01]
mircea_popescu joecool yeah. [21:01]
mircea_popescu so what if the yare ?! [21:01]
mircea_popescu oh. nm :) [21:01]
mircea_popescu good catch there. [21:02]
asciilifeform and - it was a default judgement, looks like. [21:03]
mircea_popescu https://i.imgur.com/R4owdC2.png << this should be a logo [21:03]
mircea_popescu if i ever start a law firm... [21:03]
mike_c <+kakobrekla> is there no last flea? << it's turtles all the way down. [21:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21163 @ 0.00078725 = 16.6606 BTC [-] [21:03]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i could've sworn i had a textbook with those insects on the cover. (algorithms??) [21:04]
kakobrekla hehe yea [21:04]
mircea_popescu hm [21:04]
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mircea_popescu !up username0 [21:12]
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BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2014/10/rockminer-and-asicminer-form-mining-cartel-to-launch-amhash1/ and http://qntra.net/2014/10/currentc-breeched/ [21:12]
assbot RockMiner and ASICMINER Form Mining Cartel to Launch AMHash1 | Qntra.net [21:12]
assbot CurrentC Breeched | Qntra.net [21:12]
joecool the payment system industry is a fucking mess in the US [21:14]
joecool though i did think "Pay With ISIS" was funny [21:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23420 @ 0.00078797 = 18.4543 BTC [+] {2} [21:22]
BingoBoingo Yeah. [21:24]
BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2014/10/gnu-wget-vulnerability/ << Thank you decimation [21:25]
assbot GNU wget Vulnerability | Qntra.net [21:25]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: diametric [21:25]
BingoBoingo Sorry, thanks diametric. [21:26]
BingoBoingo Name collision error in headspace. [21:26]
asciilifeform aaand... latest (no. 4) turd - builds, fetches blocks, appears to function [21:27]
asciilifeform on an entirely 'pedestrial' gentoo box, even. [21:28]
* BingoBoingo applauds [21:28]
asciilifeform *pedestrian [21:28]
BingoBoingo I kind of liked the pedestrian/industrial combo word [21:28]
mircea_popescu well done! [21:29]
asciilifeform still nowhere to house it though [21:29]
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mircea_popescu icm-ca.net/ lol [21:45]
joecool ugh i hate how gnupg2 depends on pinentry -_- [21:47]
TomServo http://online.wsj.com/articles/fed-ends-bond-buys-sticks-to-0-rate-for-considerable-time-1414605953 [21:49]
assbot Fed Ends Bond Buys, Sticks to 0% Rate for ‘Considerable Time’ - WSJ - WSJ [21:49]
jurov http://news.yahoo.com/blackmailers-threaten-czechs-ebola-outbreak-174554506.html [21:49]
assbot Blackmailers threaten Czechs with Ebola outbreak - Yahoo News [21:49]
mircea_popescu ahahaha [21:51]
mircea_popescu "give us ten hot models or else" ? [21:51]
asciilifeform !s czech ebola [21:52]
assbot 0 results for 'czech ebola' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=czech+ebola [21:52]
asciilifeform odd - it was here. [21:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8400 @ 0.00078725 = 6.6129 BTC [-] [21:53]
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mircea_popescu thickasthieves: https://twitter.com/Bitcoin_Assets/status/527436809312419840 << lol win. [21:57]
assbot What is the common thread connecting bitcoin WoT fixation, MRAs, PUAs and trolling? It’s quite peculiar how those cluster. [21:57]
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mircea_popescu scammerboy figures he got himself an angle, does he ? [21:57]
xanthyos !UP danielpbarron [21:58]
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mircea_popescu RagnarDanneskjol:thickasthieves still buried - yea, I missed few days and dont think I'm ever gonna get through it -esp with any given link prompting hours+ sidetrack journey <<< you know, after a decade or two it gets better. [21:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10300 @ 0.00078974 = 8.1343 BTC [+] [21:59]
asciilifeform thickasthieves: at least read about turdatron. [21:59]
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kakobrekla reading ze lawgs is a full time jewb. [22:01]
mircea_popescu !up Megacosm [22:01]
-assbot- You voiced Megacosm for 30 minutes. [22:01]
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Megacosm :) [22:01]
BingoBoingo http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/oct/28/wisconsin-police-bring-bearcat-armored-vehicle-property-fine?CMP=fb_gu [22:01]
assbot Wisconsin police send armoured vehicle to collect fine from 75-year-old | US news | theguardian.com [22:01]
Megacosm Hii [22:01]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller mod6 http://mpex.bz/?mpsic=S.QNTR << signed files fixed., ty ! [22:02]
assbot S.QNTR last @0.00000000 [22:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25150 @ 0.00079128 = 19.9007 BTC [+] {3} [22:02]
mod6 mircea_popescu: cool, np :] [22:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4498 @ 0.00079293 = 3.5666 BTC [+] [22:05]
xanthyos namtso [22:06]
Megacosm Xan :) [22:07]
danielpbarron Megacosm, get in the WoT [22:07]
Megacosm O.o [22:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30700 @ 0.00079583 = 24.432 BTC [+] {3} [22:08]
mircea_popescu thickasthieves incidentally, it occurs to me derpopo strangely omitted "technological expertise", "discoursive domination" and "intellectual superiority" in his list. [22:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00079633 = 8.8393 BTC [+] [22:10]
mircea_popescu then again i guess the blind man easily forgets to list vision. [22:10]
xanthyos Megacosm: join the wot, sell honey to these people for btc, no storefront, no overhead, no income tax [22:17]
asciilifeform 132,000+ blocks... [22:18]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform what, in a day ? that's pretty reasonable. [22:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00079638 = 4.5394 BTC [+] {2} [22:19]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: hour [22:23]
Apocalyptic asciilifeform, you're syncing the turd ? [22:23]
asciilifeform aha, live fire test. [22:24]
Apocalyptic the first 100k blocks go like a brease yeah [22:24]
mircea_popescu even better. [22:24]
Megacosm I need to get hives first xan [22:25]
Megacosm One step at a time lol [22:25]
kakobrekla you installing those in datacenters? [22:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23273 @ 0.00079691 = 18.5465 BTC [+] {2} [22:27]
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mircea_popescu gotta love peeps that list "enquiries@" contact emails [22:35]
mircea_popescu Esquire Within! [22:36]
asciilifeform lintel inside! [22:36]
mircea_popescu lmao yeah [22:37]
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ben_vulpes http://therealbitcoin.org/charter.html << in the absence of deedbot [22:42]
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thickasthieves “I’ve been involved in about five standoff situations where, as soon as the MARV showed up, the person gives up,” Bean told the Journal Sentinel. [22:50]
thickasthieves yes i will dig into the turdatron and I'm happy about the foundation [22:50]
thickasthieves i will also donate when ready [22:50]
TomServo MARV also saves money! it's a win-win really. [22:50]
ben_vulpes hush you all stop talking about donating [22:51]
ben_vulpes that's so entirely not the point [22:51]
thickasthieves fuel up the tank boys, we gon save some munny ta-day! [22:51]
thickasthieves how is me donating related to any kind of point of it [22:51]
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nubbins` 52 weeks o' fux [22:51]
thickasthieves money is time manifest [22:52]
nubbins` where is punkbot! [22:52]
thickasthieves i want to give you guys time to do it [22:52]
thickasthieves so what? [22:52]
thickasthieves really i just wanna have ya'll in my pocket so when usg turns me i have value [22:52]
nubbins` heh [22:52]
nubbins` i got turned like 5 months ago [22:53]
nubbins` it's good money [22:53]
thickasthieves hehe [22:53]
ben_vulpes ... [22:53]
ben_vulpes terrifying. [22:53]
nubbins` all i gotta do is ask the occasional probing question and generally fuck with the S/N ratio [22:53]
thickasthieves reality bites [22:53]
nubbins` easy paycheque [22:53]
mircea_popescu ;;ud marv [22:54]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=marv | "IT'S MARV" T_T phone call: marv : lets hang out other: eww why? marv: because marv gets lonely and has to do his job other: no marv : what the... bitch. by catttt ... [22:54]
TomServo mircea_popescu: the wisconsin article, it's what the call the armored vehicle [22:54]
mircea_popescu a [22:54]
thickasthieves speaking of which, why is reddit so excited that a longtime SEC chairman is advising bitpay or whomeevr? [22:54]
nubbins` misconsin armored retard vehicle [22:55]
thickasthieves yay let's be SECified! [22:55]
mircea_popescu monkey is excited anytime nobody's beating it to shit. [22:55]
nubbins` i'll be excited when daphna a. waxman starts advising someone [22:55]
thickasthieves sounds like dream come true for usg [22:55]
mircea_popescu two modes of the flux processor. pain and excitement. [22:55]
thickasthieves oh SECguy got in, word! [22:55]
mircea_popescu maybe they should ask him anything. [22:56]
nubbins` any interest? << I'm interested. Will it be another sight unseen deal? <<< probably same as last time, sight-unseen for preorder discount [22:56]
nubbins` seemed to work ok last time, nobody complained "hey this poster is a piece of shit" etc [22:57]
thickasthieves well thats hard to know tho [22:57]
thickasthieves maybe they just didnt buy [22:57]
nubbins` no, i mean the people who bought it unseen didn't complain that it sucked [22:57]
mircea_popescu he sold out iirc. [22:58]
thickasthieves word [22:58]
nubbins` yah, 100 posters [22:58]
mircea_popescu nubbins` is going to end up immortalised in history like a bug in amber : that one guy that was going to print a book when all hell broke loose. [22:58]
nubbins` prolly be a few books about this place before it's all over [22:59]
mircea_popescu dioceseofsthelena.com/?mke=Sale-Michael-Kors-Handbags.html << apparently helena is still a total posh slut. [22:59]
nubbins` BISHOP RICHARD [22:59]
thickasthieves bichard [23:00]
nubbins` sounds better in french [23:00]
nubbins` so vexual is from iowa, hey? [23:00]
nubbins` i mean, i guess. [23:01]
BingoBoingo nubbins` is going to have to get a web press before the end of time [23:03]
nubbins` eff that [23:03]
nubbins` offset is for squares [23:03]
BingoBoingo Ah, so the plan is to outsource the luser versions of the books? [23:04]
nubbins` nope, book will be 100% produced by me [23:04]
mircea_popescu out of wood shavings and glue. [23:05]
nubbins` i don't anticipate a huge demand right off the bat, so it'll be best to handle it myself [23:05]
nubbins` outsourcing comes with high minimums [23:05]
thickasthieves give it a eteched holographic cover and all of reddit will buy one too [23:06]
thickasthieves an etched* [23:06]
BingoBoingo Sure, but in a decade and a half when people want a textbook for courses... [23:06]
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mircea_popescu http://robertmouawad.com/ << check out this dude lmao. [23:08]
assbot ROBERT MOUAWAD [23:08]
thickasthieves jewelers are such scammers [23:09]
mircea_popescu but this guy in particular lol. that's like pedosmile**pedosmile [23:10]
thickasthieves heh, pro gaming team using .gg as domain, i approve [23:11]
thickasthieves http://cloud9.gg/ [23:12]
assbot Cloud9 [23:12]
nubbins` BingoBoingo at that point, addison wesley'll be churning them out by the millions, $150ea [23:13]
nubbins` ($35ea outside of na/eu) [23:13]
mircea_popescu nubbins` how would they get a license ? [23:13]
nubbins` ostensibly they'd do their own version [23:13]
nubbins` it's not like i've got a monopoly on transcribing code [23:14]
mircea_popescu this code ? [23:15]
mircea_popescu what, it's on the interwebs, anyone can come publish it and sell the book ? [23:16]
mircea_popescu here's a thought : the sword cuts both ways. the same asinine legal idiocy that can be used to hinder bitcoin exchanges can be used by sovereign bitcoin companies to fuck everyone non-immune in the ass. [23:16]
mircea_popescu not like aw is going to move out of the us just so they can derp with bitcoin manual. [23:17]
nubbins` <+mircea_popescu> what, it's on the interwebs, anyone can come publish it and sell the book ? <<< "Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software..." [23:17]
mircea_popescu "to make money selling it" ? [23:18]
nubbins` uh, yes. [23:18]
nubbins` http://pastebin.com/bWx1q9q9 [23:19]
assbot Copyright (c) 2009-2012 Bitcoin Developers Permission is hereby granted, free - Pastebin.com [23:19]
mircea_popescu who are these "bitcoin developers" ? [23:19]
nubbins` beats me [23:19]
mircea_popescu right ? i mean amir also put some sort of disclaimer on whatever random code he "released" [23:19]
mircea_popescu sword cuts both ways. law abiding types will be fighing injunctions for twenty years before they can as much as print a fucking page off this log. [23:20]
nubbins` well, tell alf to cut COPYING from the book, i guess [23:21]
mircea_popescu or in other words, no, bitcoin isn't "open for everyone". bitcoin is open for everyone IN BITCOIN, [23:21]
nubbins` i'm just the printer ;D [23:21]
mircea_popescu but that does not mean random fiat corp can come by and get rich exploiting it. [23:21]
bounce what? it's public, apparenly publicised with the consent of the authors. no judge is going to protect these logs, no matter how much you spend on lawyers. [23:22]
mircea_popescu bounce selections are still protected. [23:22]
mircea_popescu and the fact that a woman is naked does not give you license to rape her. [23:22]
mircea_popescu even should you imagine the place she's naked at is public. [23:22]
bounce oh shush. you and your right to rape, eh. [23:22]
mircea_popescu published != made public domain. [23:23]
bounce those copyright notices, though. do they have written consent from satoshi? [23:23]
mircea_popescu nope. [23:23]
nubbins` bounce iirc the original versions had satoshi's name [23:23]
undata "his property was just sitting there, unguarded by razor wire!" [23:23]
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mircea_popescu ^ [23:23]
nubbins` anyone with a 0.1 bundle able to confirm? [23:23]
mircea_popescu that what ? [23:23]
mircea_popescu "satoshi's name" ? what, and we've been looking for a name all these years because nobody read the code ? [23:23]
nubbins` Copyright (c) 2009 Satoshi Nakamoto in COPYING [23:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00080566 = 14.7436 BTC [+] [23:24]
mircea_popescu it was right there ? [23:24]
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bounce he's not available to contest it and then you get into who has standing? (favourite usg tactic too. yes yes that's highly illegal, but nobody with standing to contest it.) [23:25]
mircea_popescu all the actual merits discussion aside, experience shows that a judge will protect literally anything, just gotta find the right judge. [23:25]
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mircea_popescu bounce you make a claim, they make a claim. it goes to trial. sometime. [23:26]
mircea_popescu when it's done you make another claim. on it goes. [23:26]
bounce if you have the money and time to keep on litigating [23:26]
undata on the bitcoin side I'd rather these things were handled by reputation destruction [23:26]
undata than having some judge involved [23:26]
mircea_popescu maybe the public splaying of assholes like addison wesley is worth a dime off my pocet. [23:27]
mircea_popescu and there's a foundation now, too. [23:27]
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jurov asciilifeform: mailman will display gpg clearsigned attachment inline if you rename it to .txt (and i don't ned to diddle code then) [23:27]
undata I've always liked exile as a form of punishment. [23:28]
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nubbins` i don't understand [23:28]
jurov nubbins`: who? me? [23:29]
nubbins` mp [23:29]
nubbins` you're saying replace the existing license with a new one, and then sue people who violate the new license? o.O [23:29]
mircea_popescu nope. [23:30]
undata presumably there will be new code with the rewrite [23:30]
nubbins` undata, sure, but the old code is still covered by its original license [23:30]
mircea_popescu im saying, it's extremely unlikely any of the dead trees publishers will come compete with you, because their legal dept won't let them. [23:30]
mircea_popescu and if their legal dept drops the ball, all the better, carnage. [23:30]
nubbins` well why not just say that ;/ [23:30]
undata nubbins`: hm, what if all the old code is replaced? [23:30]
mircea_popescu because i like circumlocution, it's instructive to the audience. [23:30]
nubbins` undata then there's no problem. just ask the GNU team [23:31]
mircea_popescu lol [23:31]
nubbins` :D [23:31]
cazalla mircea_popescu: and the fact that a woman is naked does not give you license to rape her. <<< sounds like teach men not to rape, don't tell women what to wear, andreas would be proud [23:31]
mircea_popescu cazalla the law's the law yo. [23:31]
undata mircea_popescu: I'm interested in your thoughts on the reputation destruction / exile angle. [23:31]
mircea_popescu you and i might not give a shit, but all these fiat dorks have no choice and no option. [23:31]
undata vs traditional law enforcement [23:32]
mircea_popescu undata exile of who ? they're not even in the wot. [23:32]
cazalla i would guess most rapists would prefer the woman dressed to begin with anyway [23:32]
mircea_popescu cazalla yes. most rapists aren't interested in women that enjoy fucking in public. [23:32]
cazalla christmas is no fun if your present is not wrapped [23:32]
undata mircea_popescu: in the future, should BTC engulf the old thing, I could see that being a requirement [23:32]
undata and I could see being left outside being a pretty terrible disincentive [23:33]
mircea_popescu well, prerequistie more than requirement. [23:33]
undata say X steals your content, you're well known/liked/etc [23:33]
undata there's a backlash and he receives negative ratings from many [23:33]
mircea_popescu http://rinamusic.com/ < was anyone looking for a singer ? [23:34]
undata the guy is marked for life [23:34]
assbot RINA MIRANDA [23:34]
mircea_popescu !s to take her back [23:34]
assbot 4 results for 'to take her back' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=to+take+her+back [23:34]
mircea_popescu my content is like my sluts : more expensive to steal than to rent. [23:34]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-10-2014#881342 << this is the link i wanted. [23:35]
assbot Logged on 17-10-2014 23:29:04; mircea_popescu: you know the story about how they kidnapped that chick, sent a ransom note, [23:35]
undata mircea_popescu: one could imagine further that a system of contracts among those operating the most important parts of the economy might prevent them from dealing with the "marked" [23:36]
mircea_popescu maybe. [23:37]
mircea_popescu this is one of the least understood parts, how all this will work. [23:37]
ben_vulpes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RHFFeQ2tu4 [23:38]
assbot Fever The Ghost - SOURCE (official music video) - YouTube [23:38]
[]bot Bet placed: 4 BTC for No on "BTC network hashrate will exceed 1 Exahash/s before 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/713/ Odds: 11(Y):89(N) by coin, 20(Y):80(N) by weight. Total bet: 58.81502285 BTC. Current weight: 14,723. [23:42]
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ben_vulpes kakobrekla: http://i.imgur.com/dBbNKqj.png << chrome [23:44]
kakobrekla you trying to say it pays too much? [23:44]
undata ben_vulpes: good jams [23:44]
ben_vulpes watch that video tho [23:45]
ben_vulpes felix colgrave would be a neat choice for btc comix [23:46]
ben_vulpes animations [23:46]
ben_vulpes who knows [23:46]
mircea_popescu dja know him ? [23:46]
kakobrekla ben_vulpes cant reproduce, do you know whats the problem or fix ? [23:46]
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undata ben_vulpes: like, woah. [23:48]
assbot jborkl_ +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0 [23:49]
mircea_popescu !up jborkl_ [23:49]
-assbot- You voiced jborkl_ for 30 minutes. [23:49]
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jborkl_ hello all [23:50]
jborkl_ I am finally done with the website. I have fixed all my known errors, except the grammer :/ Those will never be fixed [23:51]
kakobrekla now you can start working for qntra >< [23:52]
jborkl_ it would be easy now. I know what to do [23:53]
jborkl_ I even got it down to one w3tc error. I have to leave one just for the hell of it [23:53]
undata jborkl_: what website? [23:54]
jborkl_ bcoinnews [23:54]
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jborkl_ getting into google news is the last part, but I have done everything needed so it should be smooth [23:56]
mircea_popescu !up ttnews_ [23:56]
-assbot- You voiced ttnews_ for 30 minutes. [23:56]
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jborkl_ Mircea, how is Argentina treating you? [23:56]
mircea_popescu pretty good actually. [23:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19700 @ 0.00081054 = 15.9676 BTC [+] {2} [23:57]
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jborkl_ excellent, picking up the language pretty easy? [23:58]
mircea_popescu i was fluent in spanish before coming. [23:58]
jborkl_ so just the local dialect [23:58]
mircea_popescu not that distant. they just mispronounce some things. [23:58]
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