Forum logs for 29 Oct 2013
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* | Now talking on #bitcoin-assets | [00:56] |
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* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Sun Sep 29 03:06:59 2013 | [00:56] |
lurker | ;;market buy 50000 | [00:56] |
gribble | This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 37088.785 bitcoins, for a total of 6626978770.6762 USD and take the price to 99999999999.0000. | Data vintage: 107.4166 seconds | [00:56] |
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lurker | ;;market buy 40000 | [00:56] |
gribble | This order would exceed the size of the order book. You would buy 37088.785 bitcoins, for a total of 6626978770.6762 USD and take the price to 99999999999.0000. | Data vintage: 113.4446 seconds | [00:56] |
lurker | meh | [00:56] |
pankkake | perhaps they'll buy DPR's coins! | [00:56] |
lurker | no, Ripple! | [00:57] |
pankkake | yeah, the advantage is that there is no shortage of them :p | [00:57] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [00:57] |
mircea_popescu | 37k all the btc left, srsly ? | [00:57] |
lurker | print'em! | [00:57] |
dexX7 | here is a nice way to track the books: http://blockchained.com/depth_mtgox_15d.png | [00:58] |
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smickles | i might be here now | [00:59] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 16 @ 0.31501013 = 5.0402 BTC [-] {3} | [01:00] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.31501012 = 0.63 BTC [-] {2} | [01:01] |
dexX7 | there is another really awesome graph i stumbled upon lately: http://coinsight.org/graphs/reddit_subscribers.png :D | [01:01] |
pankkake | lol | [01:01] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.31501009 = 1.26 BTC [-] {2} | [01:03] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.31500016 = 2.835 BTC [-] | [01:04] |
lurker | ;;ticker --market all | [01:05] |
gribble | MtGox BTCUSD last: 207.99400, vol: 10505.75742485 | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 195.37, vol: 12532.34495373 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 188.88, vol: 8286.85443 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 195.85, vol: 3319.8770489 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 185.98, vol: 336.11482793 | Volume-weighted last average: 197.579214505 | [01:05] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00105014 = 0.105 BTC [-] {4} | [01:26] |
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ThickAsThieves | http://bitcoinmagazine.com/7798/decentralization-key-to-bitcoins-success/ | [01:31] |
ThickAsThieves | decentralize all the things! | [01:31] |
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lurker | TAT: decentralization is essential. BTC enemy n°1 is centralization (51% yada yada) | [01:37] |
pankkake | centralization is often misunderstood. for instance, mining isn't becoming centralized | [01:38] |
lurker | BTC can't survive without being decentralized enough. | [01:38] |
lurker | pankakke: it's being concentrated ATM | [01:38] |
lurker | pankkake* sry :) | [01:39] |
pankkake | I highlight all spellings :p | [01:39] |
lurker | technically, it's not a spelling mistake since it's a name :P | [01:39] |
Bugpowder | ThickAsThieves: Did you short your AM PTs all the way down? | [01:41] |
Bugpowder | Looks like my call to short it at 1BTC would have been profitable, if I had pulled the trigged and not gotten stopped out. :-P | [01:42] |
mircea_popescu | lurker how do you know all this ? | [01:43] |
mircea_popescu | i mean "BTC can't survive without being decentralized enough". what's enough and how do you know ? | [01:45] |
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lurker | pandora's box | [01:48] |
lurker | gimme a min :) | [01:48] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 877 @ 0.00501262 = 4.3961 BTC [-] {16} | [01:49] |
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lurker | mircea_popescu: there might be a way to attack this mathematically but I don't know if there is an exact answer to "how much". The extreme min. would be to have 2 trusted but untrusting miners. | [01:58] |
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lurker | However, that means a lot of centralization will have happened. | [01:58] |
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lurker | I can see this if these 2 miners are, say, banks, with lots of customers, all using bitcoin. | [01:59] |
lurker | The problem is getting from where we are to there. | [01:59] |
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lurker | ATM, bitcoin survives on geek greediness and criminals. | [02:01] |
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lurker | They don't want centralization. | [02:01] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 195 @ 0.005 = 0.975 BTC [-] | [02:06] |
lurker | If the winkelvoss types start "attacking" the bitcoin market, it will have the effect of a middlecoin on the latest scamcoin. | [02:10] |
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mircea_popescu | i think you're jumping to conclusions on very little data, and the shape of those conclusions is visibly more influenced by your own ideas of the world than the actual reality of the matter | [02:12] |
lurker | you might be right, but it's gut feeling. | [02:14] |
lurker | that's the kind of thing you "just know" but you can't put it into works (2 different parts of the brain) | [02:14] |
lurker | words* | [02:14] |
lurker | (and it's late - I'm not particularly articulate at this hour) | [02:15] |
mircea_popescu | right. | [02:16] |
lurker | anyway, the centralization/decentralizatio n"issue" in bitcoin always struck me as ironic. | [02:16] |
mircea_popescu | why ? | [02:16] |
lurker | the fact that there is a "51%" problem at all for a system based on trust/demand/decentralization | [02:17] |
lurker | that means the weakness of bitcoin IS centralization | [02:17] |
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lurker | when you have centralization, you lose trust and without it you lose demand and value. | [02:19] |
mircea_popescu | the system is not based on "trust/demand/decentralization". the system is based on the blockchain because it has to use some solution for the byzantyne problem once it's decentralised. | [02:20] |
mircea_popescu | the 51% attack is a weakness of the particular solution used to implement decentralisation. | [02:20] |
mircea_popescu | it' | [02:21] |
mircea_popescu | s important to put these things in their right order. | [02:21] |
lurker | decentralization/trust/demand | [02:21] |
mircea_popescu | uh, not THOSE things. | [02:22] |
mircea_popescu | those things are by and large irrelevant in this discussion. | [02:22] |
lurker | hmmmm | [02:22] |
mircea_popescu | looky here. you decide to make a system. next step, is to decide whether it shall be centralised or decentralised. | [02:22] |
lurker | are we talking markets or technology? | [02:23] |
mircea_popescu | if you take the former, you can asume the implementation is friendly. | [02:23] |
mircea_popescu | if you take the latter, you can't so asume. the implementation has to be somehow forced to stick to the design | [02:23] |
lurker | ripple is friendly? | [02:24] |
mircea_popescu | the particular way bitcoin forces this is through the blockchain. | [02:24] |
mircea_popescu | friendly to the design, not friendly to you. | [02:24] |
mircea_popescu | (design) ? (implementation) | [02:24] |
lurker | back to my earlier questions: are you discussing technology or market (money)? | [02:25] |
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mircea_popescu | this distinction doesn't work in bitcoin as you'd expect. | [02:25] |
lurker | you're right, and wrong. | [02:26] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, a very simple example to understand what i mean : suppose the law says nobody may search your house without a warrant. | [02:26] |
mircea_popescu | what makes the actual cop at your door (implementation) follow this principle (design) ? | [02:26] |
mircea_popescu | in a centralised system, the assumption is that the implementation is friendly to the design, and the cop will do what the fuck the law says he should do. | [02:27] |
mircea_popescu | as the implementation becomes less centralised (for instance through the workings of democracy, and lawmakers pushing agendas etc), | [02:27] |
lurker | I'm crystal on your meaning, no sweat. | [02:27] |
mircea_popescu | the cop of today can't be so trusted. | [02:27] |
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lurker | It comes down to the same thing: can you be sure that system is doing what you expect it to? (= do you trust the system) | [02:30] |
mircea_popescu | yes, it does. being happy always boils down to 1. identify what to do to be happy and 2. doing that. | [02:30] |
lurker | Trust is what the blockcahin builds. | [02:31] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.31500016 BTC [-] | [02:32] |
lurker | Many miners (many copies of the blockchain) builds trust in the blockchain itself. | [02:32] |
lurker | kind of a quorum. | [02:32] |
lurker | or quanta, à la gold value. | [02:33] |
lurker | Then comes demand for the quanta and that creates value. | [02:33] |
asciilifeform | lurker: L. Lamport. "The Byzantine Generals Problem." | [02:34] |
asciilifeform | http://www.cs.cornell.edu/courses/cs614/2004sp/papers/lsp82.pdf | [02:34] |
asciilifeform | read and then come back... | [02:34] |
asciilifeform | (and then he'll come back and ask why 51% attack in btc, and not a 67% attack. and it'll be fair.) | [02:35] |
mircea_popescu | for that matter, demand does not create value. value creates demand. | [02:36] |
mircea_popescu | this is why the qe does not improve the position of the us. | [02:36] |
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lurker | asciilifeform: I'm not looking at it from the technology standpoint. | [02:37] |
lurker | mircea_popescu: chicken or egg? | [02:38] |
lurker | you can't have value before you have demand. | [02:38] |
asciilifeform | lurker: unless you know the theoretical limits of the tech, you're stuck pontificating. | [02:38] |
asciilifeform | sorta like people who ponder solutions to energy crisis without ever having heard of thermodynamical laws, the carnot engine, etc. | [02:39] |
mircea_popescu | in a sense, the tech creates the ontological limits of the discourse. this is not visible as much in "classical" applications, because somehow it's obvious that your particular abilities to deal with weak nuclear force are involved. | [02:39] |
mircea_popescu | but in more advanced applications, there's little way to distinguish between "tech" and "the rules of the world" | [02:39] |
lurker | OK, so what, for you, creates the value of bitcoin? | [02:40] |
mircea_popescu | the fact that it gives better answers to several classes of problems | [02:40] |
mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/category/bitcoin/ | [02:40] |
ozbot | Bitcoin pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [02:40] |
mircea_popescu | read through there, i've written out many cases. | [02:40] |
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VanCleef | bitcoin is a new global scam tho | [02:45] |
lurker | mircea_popescu: I don't see anything that would put value before demand. | [02:46] |
mircea_popescu | VanCleef you're not even kidding, i get a lot of (mostly, older, mostly white, mostly male, republican types) very indignant at how they knoiw btc to be a scam | [02:46] |
asciilifeform | has nobody ever heard of 'hawala'? | [02:47] |
asciilifeform | they've been doing 'bitcoin' since the caliphs. | [02:47] |
mircea_popescu | and they had a pretty good solution for the byzantine generals, rtoo. | [02:49] |
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VanCleef | it is a scam | [02:52] |
VanCleef | looking at what happening to mining | [02:52] |
dexX7 | hey asciilifeform, do you have a blog or something similar, too? it's not the first time i see you posting something interesting | [02:52] |
VanCleef | taking satoshi to court over this | [02:52] |
asciilifeform | dexX7: sure. 'loper-os.org'. | [02:53] |
dexX7 | ah ty | [02:53] |
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asciilifeform | VanCleef: say you're trying to catch a bus, and run late. you run after it, and jump, don't quite make it, fall into traffic. the end. buses are a scam? | [02:54] |
mircea_popescu | yes. | [02:56] |
mircea_popescu | definitely. | [02:57] |
VanCleef | what do buses have to do with scamming people out of money? | [02:57] |
VanCleef | catching a bus isn't involving yourself with a pyramid scheme | [02:57] |
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lurker | asciilifeform/mircea_popescu: bitcoin is a bus. do you care what engine it has? (on this, night night / arrevedere) | [03:00] |
VanCleef | think of it more like this | [03:01] |
VanCleef | say you spent 100grand on a bus ticket right and instead of the bus driver picking you up he crashes into your living room and starts raping your grandmother | [03:02] |
VanCleef | you wouldn't get a bit upset? | [03:02] |
skinnkavaj | Anyone here remember what price Litecoinglobal shares was at launch? | [03:02] |
asciilifeform | VanCleef: are you thinking of something other than the difficulty increase? | [03:03] |
asciilifeform | because the latter is in no way a surprise | [03:03] |
mircea_popescu | perhaps a surprise in degree, but certainly not in kind | [03:07] |
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Kleeck_ | who runs litecoinglobal? | [03:09] |
Kleeck_ | not burnside, I take it | [03:09] |
dexX7 | he did | [03:10] |
Kleeck_ | he sold it? | [03:10] |
dexX7 | hm? | [03:10] |
dexX7 | he was the admin there the whole time | [03:10] |
Kleeck_ | I was told that the site was coming back into operation? | [03:11] |
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Kleeck_ | Maybe I was ill informed. | [03:11] |
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dexX7 | ah, i think you mistake it with www.litecoininvest.com? | [03:12] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 23 @ 0.00501 = 0.1152 BTC [+] | [03:34] |
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samson_ | !dgc | [03:44] |
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samson_ | !offline | [03:46] |
samson_ | oops - sorry - wrong channel | [03:46] |
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KRS1 | hi | [03:50] |
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mircea_popescu | “There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” | [04:09] |
mircea_popescu | let's play guess the author | [04:09] |
asciilifeform | naggum? | [04:10] |
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mircea_popescu | hehe nope. sci fi guy. | [04:11] |
asciilifeform | heinlein? | [04:11] |
mircea_popescu | nope. | [04:11] |
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KRS1 | my god people you have google and you still get it wrong | [04:17] |
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nubbins` | foundation, good books | [04:19] |
mircea_popescu | yeh | [04:21] |
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dub | chopra? | [04:49] |
mircea_popescu | chopra ? | [04:53] |
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dub | deepak | [05:04] |
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mircea_popescu | nah. | [05:09] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 133 @ 0.00534938 = 0.7115 BTC [-] | [05:21] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.59999 = 3 BTC [+] | [05:48] |
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nubbins` | http://imgur.com/Lu5cWik | [06:39] |
ozbot | imgur: the simple image sharer | [06:39] |
nubbins` | from the next zine we're publishing | [06:39] |
nubbins` | his face makes me feel funny :( | [06:39] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [LABCO] 250 @ 0.00045003 = 0.1125 BTC [-] | [07:16] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00534938 = 1.0699 BTC [-] {4} | [07:18] |
mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2013/the-perfect-escrow/ << wanna hear opinions | [07:21] |
ozbot | The perfect escrow pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [07:21] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 59 @ 0.00535 = 0.3157 BTC [+] | [07:37] |
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* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com - all days worth reading | [18:51] |
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kleeck | So mcxNOW is MPex's new exchange, right? | [18:54] |
mircea_popescu | mnope | [18:55] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1419 @ 0.00110734 = 1.5713 BTC [-] {2} | [18:55] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 6992 @ 0.00018 = 1.2586 BTC [+] | [18:57] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 300 @ 0.005339 = 1.6017 BTC [-] | [19:02] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 362 @ 0.00110998 = 0.4018 BTC [+] | [19:04] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 3000 @ 0.00105235 = 3.1571 BTC [-] {15} | [19:06] |
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jurov | thx kakobrekla looks like i need this | [19:15] |
kakobrekla | you gonna try it out? | [19:16] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 772 @ 0.005339 = 4.1217 BTC [-] {3} | [19:18] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 244 @ 0.00538815 = 1.3147 BTC [+] {3} | [19:23] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.005498 = 0.1649 BTC [+] | [19:24] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 300 @ 0.00109783 = 0.3293 BTC [+] {3} | [19:25] |
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Andiz | ;;ticker | [19:28] |
gribble | MtGox BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 212.31211, Best ask: 212.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.18789, Last trade: 212.50000, 24 hour volume: 9662.27925930, 24 hour low: 204.02000, 24 hour high: 214.76999, 24 hour vwap: 209.02524 | [19:28] |
jurov | http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1pgwsr/my_94_year_old_grandmother_gave_me_1000_dollars/ | [19:36] |
jurov | "blow stamps" i like this! | [19:36] |
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kakobrekla | lol | [19:39] |
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mircea_popescu | dude with all these crashed raids, i now have the bitcoin/usd rate from unixtime 45788995934578218 | [19:49] |
mircea_popescu | which we could say is in the future. | [19:49] |
mircea_popescu | also from time 478, and also 0, and even before that. | [19:49] |
dexX7 | bye last safe harbor, that's the end of bitcoin finance | [19:51] |
kleeck | lol | [19:52] |
mircea_popescu | I HAVE TEH KNOWLEDGE | [19:54] |
mircea_popescu | next time someone asks me how i know all this shit ima be all like "dude... my raids crashed". | [19:54] |
pankkake | the dog ate my homework | [19:56] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.61 BTC [+] | [20:01] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 13892 @ 0.00018 = 2.5006 BTC [+] {4} | [20:06] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.63 BTC [+] | [20:07] |
KRS1- | what is the price in the future | [20:11] |
KRS1- | drumroll.. | [20:11] |
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KRS1- | Current title: The Sundays - Wild Horses | [20:12] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.35 BTC [-] | [20:13] |
mircea_popescu | i could share that for the low low price of 4506982753094509 btc | [20:13] |
KRS1- | ah come on really | [20:15] |
KRS1- | I think you got your decimal point in the wrong place, FOO | [20:15] |
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mircea_popescu | my system uses decimal curly braces | [20:16] |
mircea_popescu | so a foo is yoo | [20:16] |
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KRS1- | funny how some of the world uses commmmmmmmmmmmmas | [20:18] |
KRS1- | oops...commas | [20:18] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 226 @ 0.00262104 = 0.5924 BTC [-] {4} | [20:26] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1974 @ 0.0026 = 5.1324 BTC [-] | [20:27] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.65089997 = 2.6036 BTC [+] {2} | [21:22] |
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kakobrekla | http://istruecryptauditedyet.com/ | [21:57] |
ozbot | Is TrueCrypt Audited Yet? | [21:57] |
kakobrekla | you see this | [21:57] |
kakobrekla | we need isbitcoindocumentationwrittenyet.com | [21:57] |
kakobrekla | or specification | [21:57] |
kakobrekla | a better word. | [21:57] |
kakobrekla | any takers? | [21:59] |
smickles | o/ I can not-do that | [22:02] |
kakobrekla | which part | [22:02] |
smickles | writing documentation | [22:03] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla lol srsly. | [22:04] |
mircea_popescu | and since we're on it, i must spam http://trilema.com/2013/the-perfect-escrow/ | [22:04] |
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kakobrekla | no srsly ill look into getting someone who writes good docu | [22:06] |
smickles | 91? | [22:06] |
kakobrekla | and ask how much would it cost | [22:06] |
kakobrekla | to have the thing done | [22:06] |
kakobrekla | and talk to the devs to make it right | [22:07] |
kakobrekla | in the process | [22:07] |
kakobrekla | how bad could it fail1? | [22:07] |
smickles | wow, kakobrekla doing good for the community | [22:07] |
smickles | i just didn't expect it with such a long url joke-seeming things | [22:08] |
nubbins` | worst allergy attack of my life | [22:08] |
nubbins` | 4.5 hours and counting | [22:08] |
kakobrekla | smickles big problem needs long url. | [22:08] |
kakobrekla | you prolly have a low amount of phone number too! | [22:08] |
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nubbins` | heh | [22:11] |
mircea_popescu | lmao a large amount of url! | [22:12] |
mircea_popescu | kakobrekla i had asked 3 different people so far, which all promised they're going to do it. | [22:12] |
mircea_popescu | over the past maybe 1year give or take. | [22:12] |
kakobrekla | for pay ofc? | [22:13] |
mircea_popescu | as long as it's reasonable. | [22:13] |
mircea_popescu | im not about to pay $100 an hour for 9400 hours or w/e | [22:13] |
kakobrekla | yeah im trying to get a quote. | [22:13] |
mircea_popescu | the catch of course is that it has to be good. | [22:14] |
mircea_popescu | otherwise sure, get some odesk kid with credentials of having worked for labcoin or bitfinex or w/e | [22:14] |
kakobrekla | no no that . | [22:14] |
kakobrekla | im not even considering some random dude | [22:15] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.65099999 = 13.02 BTC [+] {3} | [22:15] |
mircea_popescu | right. | [22:15] |
nubbins` | good documentation is a rare beast | [22:16] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.65799996 = 3.29 BTC [+] {2} | [22:21] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00565887 = 1.1318 BTC [+] {7} | [22:22] |
kleeck | .d | [22:24] |
ozbot | 390928787.63809 | Next Diff in 1377 blocks | Estimated Change: 18.4814% in 7d 18h 56m 25s | [22:24] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 69 @ 0.00569499 = 0.393 BTC [+] | [22:27] |
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bidji | Do you remember the mcxNOW IPO i talked abour earlier? | [22:45] |
bidji | They already raised 1 Million dollar! | [22:45] |
bidji | In like 12 hours | [22:46] |
bidji | https://mcxnow.com/buymcx.html With a big Meter updated in Real-time! | [22:46] |
ozbot | mcxNOW - Buy mcxFEE | [22:46] |
kakobrekla | if i reckon, the guy is in merrica. | [22:47] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.67 BTC [+] | [22:51] |
dexX7 | hm i would almost bet that there were ~33358 shares remaining 8 hours ago, too... | [22:53] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00575371 = 0.5754 BTC [+] {5} | [22:53] |
kakobrekla | so he sold 1 share? | [22:53] |
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dexX7 | :D | [22:54] |
bidji | no , there was 45 000 share left 12-13 hours ago | [22:54] |
dexX7 | but anyway, i never traded on that website, but it feels soo smooth and fast *_* (i'm serious) | [22:54] |
bidji | he sold 12,000 | [22:55] |
kakobrekla | i lold when reading teh footer | [22:55] |
dexX7 | hehe yea | [22:55] |
kakobrekla | you can see immediately its some retarded kid. | [22:55] |
dexX7 | maybe. and now he is cashing out | [22:56] |
bidji | well, the guy have 15+ year experience in c++. | [22:56] |
dub | but he has Experience (tm) | [22:56] |
bidji | Just test the site, you'll see it's not coded in a weeks | [22:57] |
bidji | Faster than any other exchange, just try | [22:57] |
dub | how much is he paying you to ruin your rep shilling for it? | [22:57] |
kakobrekla | 1 sher per 12 hrs it seems | [22:57] |
kakobrekla | share | [22:57] |
dexX7 | i think trading is locked atm | [22:57] |
bidji | Only the trading of the mcxFEE, you can trade Altcoin | [22:58] |
dexX7 | so the market doesn't crash due to (potentially) 10x additional shares | [22:58] |
dexX7 | *9x | [22:58] |
kakobrekla | bidji you know you can just come in here and claim some shit and expect everybody to go along | [22:58] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 36 @ 0.6301 = 22.6836 BTC [-] {3} | [22:58] |
bidji | that's why i suggest you test it | [22:58] |
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kakobrekla | thats why i suggest you shut the fuck up and lurk moar | [22:59] |
dub | ^ | [22:59] |
bidji | People are investing 1 million$ in the site, maybe they know what they are doing don't you think | [22:59] |
kakobrekla | maybe | [22:59] |
bidji | they did the math | [22:59] |
dub | no | [22:59] |
kakobrekla | prolly not. | [22:59] |
nubbins` | nope | [23:00] |
bidji | i did the math : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AioqMMSVIC5tdFplWndsdmZuaGxyN01xemxtNWYxVGc#gid=0 | [23:00] |
bidji | 10% yield at current volume | [23:00] |
bidji | And it's growing very fast | [23:00] |
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bidji | There is 2000 BTC trading volume each day | [23:01] |
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bidji | Just want to spread awareness | [23:01] |
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kakobrekla | well thank you so much for exposing another scam now lets move along. | [23:01] |
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bidji | Good luck with your investment, i'm happy with mine and wanted to share | [23:03] |
imsaguy | why would you share? | [23:04] |
imsaguy | if you're making so much money, you'd want to keep it a secret | [23:04] |
imsaguy | and make even more money | [23:04] |
kakobrekla | we fools are gonna buy in later. | [23:04] |
bidji | Because it's in my interest. More people on the site, more growth | [23:04] |
imsaguy | I like being the last person to hold the bag | [23:04] |
kakobrekla | o o i smell pony! | [23:04] |
kakobrekla | must be the manure. | [23:04] |
imsaguy | don't you feel like a pony when you sweat? | [23:04] |
Apocalyptic | *poni | [23:04] |
bidji | You realise it's share in a trading exchange? So more people on it, more fee revenue. Simple as that | [23:05] |
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kakobrekla | i think thats too much for my math skills, do i have to divide by 0? | [23:06] |
imsaguy | I just round up | [23:06] |
smickles | i feel like someone is trying to sell chocolate on the front lawn of hersheys | [23:06] |
imsaguy | 0/0=1 | [23:06] |
smickles | (sp?) | [23:06] |
kakobrekla | oh yeah that makes sense well sign me up for 2 shares! no, make it 3! | [23:06] |
imsaguy | whenever the divisor = the numerator, the product equals one. | [23:07] |
smickles | $vwap mpoe | [23:07] |
mpexbot | smickles: An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. | [23:07] |
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smickles | shit | [23:07] |
mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2013/the-horror-of-horrors/ mpex status etc | [23:07] |
ozbot | The horror of horrors pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [23:07] |
mircea_popescu | jurov ^ | [23:07] |
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imsaguy | smickles, mpex is migrating to the 50btc platform | [23:07] |
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mircea_popescu | da fuck is that | [23:07] |
imsaguy | "we got 'hacked' and stole all of your money" platform. | [23:08] |
dexX7 | happy birthday | [23:08] |
imsaguy | every day is a birthday | [23:08] |
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mircea_popescu | dub bidiji (51403667@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.64.54.103) has a reputation to ruin now ? | [23:10] |
mircea_popescu | imsaguy hater! | [23:10] |
imsaguy | mircea_popescu: at least I'm equal opportunity with my hating. | [23:10] |
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mircea_popescu | do you hate obama ? | [23:11] |
imsaguy | He's like 7/16 black, of course. | [23:11] |
mircea_popescu | cute kittens with tits ? | [23:11] |
smickles | obama stopped the recording of wizard history | [23:11] |
imsaguy | kittens dont have tits. | [23:11] |
mircea_popescu | caramel and whiskey tits! | [23:11] |
imsaguy | good try though. | [23:11] |
mircea_popescu | dude actually a cat that had nice tits which sprouted whiskey and caramel would make a great pet. | [23:12] |
smickles | http://user.xmission.com/~emailbox/images/lioncut.jpg | [23:12] |
imsaguy | at least this happened: http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/ex-congressman-jackson-reports-to-prison | [23:12] |
imsaguy | smickles, that's a cat, not a kitten. | [23:12] |
mircea_popescu | jesse jackson ? wow. | [23:13] |
imsaguy | the junior | [23:13] |
imsaguy | the senior is still spouting his bullshit. | [23:13] |
mircea_popescu | a a ok | [23:13] |
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imsaguy | stupid split | [23:14] |
mircea_popescu | His wife spent $5,150 on fur capes and parkas, the document said. | [23:15] |
mircea_popescu | where the fuck did she find a 5k fur cape | [23:15] |
mircea_popescu | sounds like nutria | [23:15] |
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mircea_popescu | o hey, check it out : the c++ experience guy also relays. http://blockchain.info/ip-address/81.64.54.103 | [23:16] |
imsaguy | probably a tor exit node or something | [23:17] |
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mircea_popescu | nah | [23:17] |
mircea_popescu | http://news.msn.com/crime-justice/doctors-mistress-takes-the-stand-in-murder-case | [23:18] |
ozbot | Doctor's mistress takes the stand in murder case | [23:18] |
mircea_popescu | girl's name is gypsy milles | [23:18] |
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mircea_popescu | willis* | [23:18] |
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dub | mircea_popescu: so were intersango handling your backups? | [23:21] |
mircea_popescu | no, i just had the dubious idea of having the proxies make something sort of like a blockchain | [23:21] |
mircea_popescu | and i can't add to it. | [23:21] |
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mircea_popescu | dexX7 ty | [23:26] |
dub | I thought I'd worked with some incompetent motherfuckers before | [23:29] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 20 @ 0.00569499 = 0.1139 BTC [-] | [23:30] |
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dub | that wasnt reference to mpex btw | [23:38] |
dub | raging at my new work environment | [23:39] |
mircea_popescu | at least they dion't allocate 5mb of random data for you with the task to read through it and find "anything suspicious" | [23:40] |
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orkaa | mircea_popescu, something for you | [23:44] |
orkaa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6W2I--r3PY | [23:44] |
ozbot | Eminem Welcome to Timisoara City (Romania) - YouTube | [23:44] |
pankkake | wat | [23:44] |
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dub | wow | [23:47] |
dub | Romania's got talent | [23:47] |
mircea_popescu | ha | [23:51] |
mircea_popescu | ahahaha her romanian accent is so thick | [23:51] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, it's definitely in timisoara. | [23:53] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT85qnGSFeI she's got moar. | [23:55] |
ozbot | Eminem Still Dre & Em (Funny) - YouTube | [23:55] |
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