Forum logs for 29 Jun 2015
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
| BingoBoingo | Not yet. Build... took some time... will try to get further in sync first | [00:00] |
| asciilifeform | i sorta want to start doing this thing where we for blocks 0 ... n, sha512sum block_n | gpg ... | [00:00] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15057 @ 0.00041084 = 6.186 BTC [+] {2} | [00:00] |
| mircea_popescu | certainly can go into deedbot. which will go into the blockchain. which... inception | [00:02] |
| asciilifeform | ahahahaha | [00:02] |
| mircea_popescu | (afaik this would be the first example of a closed loop, which is to say a cyuclicity i nthe graph of modification dependencies | [00:02] |
| * | asciilifeform blows stack | [00:02] |
| mircea_popescu | or at any rate the first publicly known one.) | [00:02] |
| mircea_popescu | imagine the inconvenience of trying to diddle history with this arrangement. | [00:03] |
| mircea_popescu | truely needs qc. | [00:03] |
| BingoBoingo | ;;ticker --market buttstamp | [00:15] |
| gribble | Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 250.16, Best ask: 250.28, Bid-ask spread: 0.12000, Last trade: 250.15, 24 hour volume: 5557.75187228, 24 hour low: 247.04, 24 hour high: 251.24, 24 hour vwap: 249.205171345 | [00:15] |
| mod6 | BingoBoingo: did you build the whole thing with the stator.sh script? or did you just build bitcoind? or are you running the static binary provided? | [00:25] |
| BingoBoingo | mod6: Built the whole thing. Hung up once because I was using .gz boost archive instead of .bz2 | [00:26] |
| BingoBoingo | Once that was fixed everything built | [00:26] |
| decimation | asciilifeform: stator built for me | [00:26] |
| decimation | on rhel6 | [00:26] |
| mod6 | yeah, i hit that small problem too... i had other issues further down the line. thanks, i must just have an environment issue. | [00:27] |
| mod6 | i'll have to circle back around to this later. | [00:27] |
| decimation | bitched about mktemp "(.text+0x774d): warning: the use of `mktemp' is dangerous, better use `mkstemp'" | [00:27] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31400 @ 0.00040299 = 12.6539 BTC [-] | [00:33] |
| BingoBoingo | daemon is at 136 MB of RAM usage | [00:35] |
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| asciilifeform | congrats BingoBoingo decimation | [00:37] |
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| BingoBoingo | Only pheature I miss from 0.7 series is "getpeerinfo" command | [00:37] |
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| asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: shouldn't be hard to re-create it | [00:41] |
| BingoBoingo | Yeah, and it isn't an urgent thing | [00:41] |
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| * | asciilifeform is dumping and hashing all of the blocks he sucked from mircea_popescu's box earlier | [00:42] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21850 @ 0.00040299 = 8.8053 BTC [-] | [00:42] |
| asciilifeform | will sign the result when it has run to the end (likely in the morning) | [00:42] |
| asciilifeform | http://dpaste.com/0CXHK64 << script | [00:43] |
| assbot | dpaste: 0CXHK64 ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ns0Yf8 ) | [00:43] |
| asciilifeform | a bit of a hasty job, forgot the 'dest' thing | [00:44] |
| asciilifeform | but works | [00:44] |
| decimation | asciilifeform: of course, next step: force feed bitcoind with array of blocks | [00:45] |
| asciilifeform | !s eatblock | [00:46] |
| assbot | 0 results for 'eatblock' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=eatblock | [00:46] |
| asciilifeform | hm | [00:46] |
| asciilifeform | did mention this. | [00:46] |
| decimation | was it in the email | [00:46] |
| asciilifeform | nah, here | [00:46] |
| asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1180703 | [00:46] |
| assbot | Logged on 29-06-2015 00:53:18; asciilifeform: now who has the balls to write 'eatblock' ! | [00:46] |
| decimation | heh | [00:46] |
| asciilifeform | wtf does #b-a search not behave exactly like grep ? | [00:46] |
| asciilifeform | i still can't see any reason | [00:47] |
| asciilifeform | the 'words' thing is asinine | [00:47] |
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| mircea_popescu | poor mod6 lol/ nothing comes easy to the bsd crowd | [00:53] |
| * | BingoBoingo will likely attempt stator build on OpenBSD soon | [01:09] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 61200 @ 0.00041764 = 25.5596 BTC [+] | [01:24] |
| asciilifeform | erratum: where i wrote 'O(N^2)' ought to be O(N). complexity of fetching ~all~ blocks is O(N^2). | [01:30] |
| asciilifeform | haste makes waste (tm) | [01:31] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 122448 @ 0.00041973 = 51.3951 BTC [+] {7} | [01:31] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32228 @ 0.00042386 = 13.6602 BTC [+] | [01:32] |
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| asciilifeform | ;;later tell jurov please nuke the size limit on turdatron | [01:53] |
| gribble | The operation succeeded. | [01:53] |
| asciilifeform | ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.loper-os.org/pub/turdsums/readme_s.txt http://www.loper-os.org/pub/turdsums/sums.txt.gz http://www.loper-os.org/pub/turdsums/sums.txt.gz.sig | [01:55] |
| gribble | The operation succeeded. | [01:55] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1GKokIW ) | [01:55] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1GKoksw ) | [01:55] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108931 @ 0.00042685 = 46.4972 BTC [+] {5} | [02:09] |
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| gabriel_laddel | mircea_popescu: Even after taking a walk I wasn't able to digest your point whatsoever. Your model doesn't take into account a large number of things e.g., people who silently do their homework and never speak with the prof. | [02:23] |
| gabriel_laddel | That "sex" is omnipresent and influences human choice is a rather obvious observation that I can't *do* anything with. | [02:25] |
| gabriel_laddel | !rate williamdune 2 gamingfurry.tumblr.com & http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=22-06-2015#1172551 | [02:26] |
| assbot | williamdune is not registered in WoT. | [02:26] |
| assbot | Logged on 22-06-2015 19:59:17; williamdunne: "Hey, once we've got this account opened, could I bend you over your desk and fuck you in front of your colleague?" | [02:26] |
| gabriel_laddel | !rate williamdunne 2 gamingfurry.tumblr.com & http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=22-06-2015#1172551 | [02:27] |
| assbot | Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/58150678a8923b84 | [02:27] |
| assbot | Logged on 22-06-2015 19:59:17; williamdunne: "Hey, once we've got this account opened, could I bend you over your desk and fuck you in front of your colleague?" | [02:27] |
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| gabriel_laddel | !v assbot:gabriel_laddel.rate.williamdunne.2:0be5b503690d76f7a8c19a002d876fbbe5dde043ca46bc2591d4ac4ce11b9a08 | [02:29] |
| assbot | Successfully added a rating of 2 for williamdunne with note: gamingfurry.tumblr.com & http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=22-06-2015#1172551 | [02:29] |
| gabriel_laddel | mircea_popescu: also, I don't understand what "trilema.com/parody-is-not-there-for-you-cancerous-fags-to-try-and-hide-your-cancer-behind-it/" has to do with anything | [02:30] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3579 @ 0.00042434 = 1.5187 BTC [-] | [02:33] |
| gabriel_laddel | "This has lead to no end of headaches when hacking on the bitcoind source. I've built bitcoinds in Docker containers and shipped them off to virtualized servers in The Cloud, I've built them in virtual machines local to my own development machine and run them in the selfsame VMs, and I even burned a few hours today attempting to compile bitcoin nat | [02:35] |
| gabriel_laddel | ively on my Mac (hey, someone said it was possible!). | [02:35] |
| gabriel_laddel | Today I moved my entire development flow for hacking on bitcoind into an Ubuntu 14.04 virtual machine. This is just a stopgap until I get the time to build a fresh Linux tower with which I'll undertake Gentoo Quest. Again. For real this time, I swear." | [02:35] |
| gabriel_laddel | -- http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/06/21_a-tour-of-bitcoind-booting-to-its-first-thread.html | [02:35] |
| assbot | a tour of bitcoind booting to its first thread ... ( http://bit.ly/1LDmzUy ) | [02:35] |
| gabriel_laddel | asciilifeform: this is why masamune | [02:36] |
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| BingoBoingo | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2552110/Look-state-Youre-disgusting-Women-loses-10-stone-humiliated-man-threw-drink-night-size.html | [02:38] |
| assbot | 'Look at the state of you. You're disgusting': Women loses over 10 stone after being humiliated when a man threw a drink over her on a night out because of her size | Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1LDmDUf ) | [02:38] |
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| BingoBoingo | ^ Hate works | [02:39] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24650 @ 0.00042852 = 10.563 BTC [+] | [02:41] |
| punkman | need more shitgnome shaming | [02:49] |
| BingoBoingo | punkman: Not shaming, hating! | [02:51] |
| punkman | you can do both! | [02:53] |
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| BingoBoingo | Nah, shamming is an attempt to exert control and correction on the part of the target. With hate you don't have to emotionally commit to hoping the target corrects, until they do they are simply trashfolk. | [02:59] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45604 @ 0.00042852 = 19.5422 BTC [+] | [03:04] |
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| mircea_popescu | ;;later tell gabriel_laddel a) people who aren't being educated aren't being educated, mmkay. why is my model of education supposedly failing to take into account things which aren't part of the field ? b) it was a disucssion of humor, references a quote, from al ink. saw link ? | [03:25] |
| gribble | The operation succeeded. | [03:25] |
| mircea_popescu | and it's not a matter of "sex" or "omnipresent" or "influence". sex is the basis of all social interaction. education is not an abstract or abstractable abstraction, but social intercourse, exactly like fucking, exactly like seduction, exactly like any other social behaviour. | [03:28] |
| mircea_popescu | it is a derivation of speech not of thought. | [03:28] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40250 @ 0.00042979 = 17.299 BTC [+] | [03:41] |
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| cazalla | http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-33288367 | [03:50] |
| assbot | What should social networks do about hate speech? - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1FJIgdt ) | [03:50] |
| mircea_popescu | mind their own fucking business ? | [03:56] |
| mircea_popescu | least likely to occur outcome these days huh. | [03:56] |
| punkman | censorship creates jobs | [03:56] |
| punkman | think of all the people they gotta hire | [03:56] |
| mircea_popescu | so would sucking cock. | [03:57] |
| mircea_popescu | heck, throwing transsexuals from rooftops would create jobs. | [03:58] |
| mircea_popescu | flaying obese people alive and stuffing small african children in the sack of flesh idem. | [03:58] |
| mircea_popescu | list goes on. | [03:58] |
| cazalla | in other news, i spent the arvo putting in another raised garden bed (4.2m x 1.8m), red gum is a really nice timber | [04:00] |
| mircea_popescu | arvo ? | [04:01] |
| cazalla | ;;ud arvo | [04:01] |
| gribble | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=arvo | arvo. One of the many words that Australians have cut syllables off and replaced with "-o". This one represents the hours after 12pm, and is used by people, ... | [04:01] |
| mircea_popescu | oic. | [04:02] |
| cazalla | and here i thought it was as common as international words | [04:03] |
| mircea_popescu | lol international words | [04:05] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52750 @ 0.00043557 = 22.9763 BTC [+] {2} | [04:06] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54535 @ 0.00042698 = 23.2854 BTC [-] {3} | [04:31] |
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| mircea_popescu | aaand in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5gt03jTn51qddd4so1_1280.jpg | [04:37] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1drWoBf ) | [04:37] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70036 @ 0.00040299 = 28.2238 BTC [-] {4} | [04:46] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42009 @ 0.0003961 = 16.6398 BTC [-] {3} | [04:47] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 110828 @ 0.00041003 = 45.4428 BTC [+] | [04:53] |
| cazalla | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1180996 <<< really a furry or just trollin' ? | [05:04] |
| assbot | Logged on 29-06-2015 05:22:43; gabriel_laddel: !rate williamdune 2 gamingfurry.tumblr.com & http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=22-06-2015#1172551 | [05:04] |
| cazalla | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1181014 <<< i don't think it works enough to combat the effects of loose chicken skin.. do this one with the lights off i guess | [05:06] |
| assbot | Logged on 29-06-2015 05:35:16; BingoBoingo: ^ Hate works | [05:06] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48751 @ 0.00041003 = 19.9894 BTC [+] {2} | [05:26] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26100 @ 0.00043693 = 11.4039 BTC [+] | [05:30] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51000 @ 0.00042649 = 21.751 BTC [-] {2} | [06:22] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40260 @ 0.00041827 = 16.8396 BTC [-] {2} | [06:30] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6890 @ 0.0003933 = 2.7098 BTC [-] | [06:31] |
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| kakobrekla | http://imgur.com/gallery/ybJrDA0 | [07:10] |
| assbot | Police in Turkey try to stop Pride parade with water cannons, accidentally creates rainbows - Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1CDXf8E ) | [07:10] |
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| mircea_popescu | pretty cool lol | [07:37] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23900 @ 0.00043415 = 10.3762 BTC [+] | [07:50] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38100 @ 0.00043415 = 16.5411 BTC [+] | [07:57] |
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| kakobrekla | >Cause still unknown after several thousand engineering-hours of review. Now parsing data with a hex editor to recover final milliseconds. | [08:20] |
| kakobrekla | lolk | [08:20] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70650 @ 0.00043685 = 30.8635 BTC [+] {3} | [08:24] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35159 @ 0.00043833 = 15.4112 BTC [+] | [08:31] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22000 @ 0.00043271 = 9.5196 BTC [-] | [08:32] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24434 @ 0.00043833 = 10.7102 BTC [+] | [08:36] |
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| * | Now talking on #bitcoin-assets | [14:42] |
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| mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1181092 << this is thge major problem, the fact bureaucrats manage to hide behind anonimity. | [14:50] |
| assbot | Logged on 29-06-2015 15:56:59; decimation: as far as I can tell, nobody has named who at univeristy college london threatened to fire Tim Hunt if he didn't resign | [14:51] |
| mircea_popescu | must be denied, this shield./ | [14:51] |
| mircea_popescu | "So began an extraordinary course of events that saw her tweet shared more than 600 times, kick-starting a viral scandal which resulted in the 72-year-old academic" | [14:52] |
| mircea_popescu | six HUNDRED times ?! | [14:52] |
| mircea_popescu | dude gtfo. | [14:52] |
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| mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1181115 << are they gonna take everyone's money again ? | [14:54] |
| assbot | Logged on 29-06-2015 16:38:45; punkman: in other news, banks closed, 60eur/day limit on ATMs | [14:54] |
| mircea_popescu | or wait, the original was cyprus i think | [14:54] |
| punkman | are they gonna take everyone's money again ? < one way or another | [14:59] |
| mircea_popescu | so are you buying cretan hoes for btc ? | [15:00] |
| punkman | not yet | [15:01] |
| punkman | if anyone's selling BTC, I probably know a few people | [15:01] |
| mod6 | cruddy hoes > * | [15:01] |
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| mircea_popescu | punkman and how would a few people pay ?! | [15:03] |
| punkman | cash or other arrangement | [15:05] |
| mircea_popescu | cahs in greece ?! | [15:06] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71900 @ 0.00047205 = 33.9404 BTC [+] {2} | [15:08] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6150 @ 0.00047629 = 2.9292 BTC [+] | [15:09] |
| mircea_popescu | https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/major-spike-localbitcoins-trading-activity-due-scams-fraud/ <<< ahahaha at this bullshit. | [15:14] |
| assbot | Major Spike In LocalBitcoins Trading Activity Could Be Due To Scams & Fraud - CCN: Financial Bitcoin News ... ( http://bit.ly/1LypsVO ) | [15:14] |
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| mircea_popescu | i can affirm under oath that the whole argentina btc market is under 10 btc / day | [15:14] |
| mircea_popescu | but the latest comer to "we're a website, we print numbers" side of "financial services" is nevertheless amusing. | [15:15] |
| asciilifeform | !up ascii_field | [15:15] |
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| ascii_field | anybody else (including mircea_popescu) compare their block hashes with those posted last night ? | [15:15] |
| mircea_popescu | ascii_field actually, i've been playing eulora. | [15:16] |
| mircea_popescu | fucking love that thing. | [15:16] |
| ascii_field | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1180989 << if anyone missed | [15:16] |
| assbot | Logged on 29-06-2015 04:51:04; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://www.loper-os.org/pub/turdsums/readme_s.txt http://www.loper-os.org/pub/turdsums/sums.txt.gz http://www.loper-os.org/pub/turdsums/sums.txt.gz.sig | [15:16] |
| ascii_field | mircea_popescu: neato | [15:16] |
| mircea_popescu | give it a spin sometime, it's absolutely fantastico economic-wise. | [15:16] |
| * | ascii_field would love to, but would have to buy a gpu card, cobble together a box to put it in... and, on top of it all, a 27th hour on the clock | [15:17] |
| mircea_popescu | well maybe later. | [15:17] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42400 @ 0.00047629 = 20.1947 BTC [+] | [15:18] |
| mircea_popescu | o.O | [15:19] |
| mircea_popescu | we can has 5 yes ? | [15:19] |
| ascii_field | 5? | [15:20] |
| mircea_popescu | @ 0.00047629 | [15:20] |
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| ascii_field | ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: last night i noticed that 'eatblock' is kinda already implemented: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp#1780 | [15:22] |
| assbot | Satoshi 0.5.3.1/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp ... ( http://bit.ly/1LyqhxM ) | [15:22] |
| ascii_field | so the ancient dream of 'sync over netcat' is theoretically doable now. | [15:23] |
| shinohai | O.o sync over nc ?!? | [15:27] |
| ascii_field | shinohai: aha | [15:28] |
| * | shinohai likes how ascii_field thinks .... | [15:28] |
| ascii_field | http://linux.die.net/man/1/nc << for anyone unfamiliar with that jewel of a util | [15:29] |
| assbot | nc(1): arbitrary TCP/UDP connections/listens - Linux man page ... ( http://bit.ly/1GIo0tn ) | [15:29] |
| ascii_field | http://nc110.sourceforge.net << long-form docs | [15:29] |
| assbot | Netcat: the TCP/IP swiss army ... ( http://bit.ly/1GIo4t0 ) | [15:29] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 220700 @ 0.00047068 = 103.8791 BTC [-] {2} | [15:43] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37500 @ 0.00047631 = 17.8616 BTC [+] {2} | [16:02] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3200 @ 0.0004675 = 1.496 BTC [-] | [16:09] |
| trinque | https://github.com/redline6561/coleslaw << NO! what the fuck?! | [16:12] |
| assbot | redline6561/coleslaw · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1BRqidU ) | [16:12] |
| trinque | has s-exps in his hand, invents alternate syntax for encoding the "metadata" of pages | [16:12] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 112378 @ 0.00047914 = 53.8448 BTC [+] {3} | [16:21] |
| shinohai | I was musing bout bitcoind under a very tiny platform like busybox and found this: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-April/000083.html | [16:25] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1BRrP3r ) | [16:25] |
| mircea_popescu | aha. | [16:26] |
| trinque | shinohai: heh! I've run into ascii_field's posts around the net plenty of times on common lisp quest too | [16:26] |
| shinohai | ;;ticker | [16:29] |
| gribble | Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 254.64, Best ask: 254.77, Bid-ask spread: 0.13000, Last trade: 254.64, 24 hour volume: 32004.86437883, 24 hour low: 247.25, 24 hour high: 257.48, 24 hour vwap: None | [16:29] |
| scoopbot_revived | The Chicken Scribblin' Kronicles - A Look Under Eulora's Short and Knee-Length Future http://trilema.com/2015/the-chicken-scribblin-kronicles-a-look-under-euloras-short-and-knee-length-future/ | [16:39] |
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| mats | i wonder who's next -- .it? | [16:43] |
| mircea_popescu | some pig or other | [16:44] |
| BingoBoingo | Stator built bitcoind now has sufficient peers found it gets connections when seeds specified through "addnode" are offline | [16:59] |
| davout | i need to sink some time into building stator bitcoind for the pogo | [17:04] |
| BingoBoingo | decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1181090 << You could give this one a go | [17:05] |
| assbot | Logged on 29-06-2015 15:56:25; decimation: cazalla, BingoBoingo: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3141158/A-flawed-accuser-Investigation-academic-hounded-Nobel-Prize-winning-scientist-job-reveals-troubling-questions-testimony.html < could make a good qntra story | [17:05] |
| mircea_popescu | word. | [17:08] |
| trinque | "unreconstructed" << unbanked, unequal, unenlightened, unsaved | [17:16] |
| trinque | thingify the anti-thing, then hide the thing it anti-ed | [17:17] |
| mircea_popescu | unt is the best in this line. | [17:18] |
| mircea_popescu | butter in romanian. | [17:18] |
| mircea_popescu | nobody even remembers what the t was originally. | [17:18] |
| trinque | lawl | [17:19] |
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| asciilifeform | !up ascii_field | [17:21] |
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| ascii_field | davout: 'stator for pogo' is just the old 'portatronic' | [17:21] |
| ascii_field | davout: you may have noticed that i recycled 95% of the build script from the latter | [17:22] |
| davout | ascii_field: from what i understand having buildroot + bitcoind required being able to make a static build, right? | [17:22] |
| ascii_field | davout: buildroot uses uclibc | [17:22] |
| davout | but it wasn't possible before because of the dynmic dns glibc crap or do i misunderstand something here? | [17:23] |
| ascii_field | well, previously bitcoin ~actually invoked~ dns | [17:23] |
| ascii_field | so it had to be provided somehow | [17:23] |
| ascii_field | now - no | [17:23] |
| davout | and that dns stuff works with uclibc? | [17:24] |
| ascii_field | davout: there is no longer any invocation of dns (in my set) | [17:24] |
| ascii_field | thing even builds statically with glibc | [17:24] |
| ascii_field | but the 'gconv' retardation remains | [17:24] |
| ascii_field | and apparently the only way to remove it is to build glibc from scratch and link against it | [17:25] |
| ascii_field | which, in practice, requires a whole toolchain built against the custom glibc | [17:25] |
| ascii_field | which may as well be uclibc! | [17:25] |
| davout | and that was possible before? before the removal of dns crud? | [17:25] |
| mircea_popescu | no ? | [17:26] |
| ascii_field | not really. if you invoke dns at all in a glibc proggy, you get the libnss idiocy | [17:26] |
| ascii_field | automagically | [17:26] |
| mod6 | oh btw, here's a snippit of my bitcoin compile of the full stator: http://dpaste.com/0VMQTY8.txt | [17:27] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1g3sdSW ) | [17:27] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56900 @ 0.00048264 = 27.4622 BTC [+] | [17:28] |
| ascii_field | mod6: looks quite like mine | [17:29] |
| ascii_field | anyway, if this thing is to be ran in background on various folks' boxes, it really has to be dedrepperized | [17:30] |
| mod6 | ahh, ok. just wanted you to peek at that end with those boost warnings with getaddrinfo | [17:30] |
| ascii_field | mod6: we aren't ever calling getaddrinfo | [17:30] |
| ascii_field | so it doesn't matter if the thing is a stub | [17:30] |
| mod6 | *nod* sounds good | [17:30] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 194413 @ 0.00046692 = 90.7753 BTC [-] {3} | [17:30] |
| ascii_field | but this thing isn't battlefield-ready until gconv is shot | [17:31] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59387 @ 0.00044921 = 26.6772 BTC [-] | [17:32] |
| ascii_field | mircea_popescu: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ulrichdrepper << mega-l0l | [17:34] |
| assbot | Ulrich Drepper | LinkedIn ... ( http://bit.ly/1g3tjOo ) | [17:34] |
| ascii_field | and... https://twitter.com/drepperquotes | [17:39] |
| assbot | Not Ulrich Drepper (@drepperquotes) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1g3u4qR ) | [17:39] |
| ascii_field | 'Stallman recently tried what I would call a hostile takeover of the glibc development. He tried to conspire behind my back and persuade the other main developers to take control so that in the end he is in control and can dictate whatever pleases him. This attempt failed but he kept on pressuring people everywhere and it got really ugly. In the end I agreed to the creation of a so-called "steering committee" (SC). | [17:42] |
| ascii_field | The SC is different from the SC in projects like gcc in that it does not make decisions. On this front nothing changed. The only difference is that Stallman now has no right to complain anymore since the SC he wanted acknowledged the status quo. I hope he will now shut up forever.' | [17:42] |
| ascii_field | (drepper. https://sourceware.org/ml/libc-announce/2001/msg00000.html ) | [17:42] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1g3uJsn ) | [17:43] |
| ascii_field | ^ re: the 'did rms know' thread of a few days ago | [17:43] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99617 @ 0.00048508 = 48.3222 BTC [+] {2} | [17:51] |
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| BingoBoingo | !up ascii_field | [17:52] |
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| ascii_field | anybody try 'dietlibc' ? >> http://www.fefe.de/dietlibc | [17:53] |
| assbot | diet libc - a libc optimized for small size ... ( http://bit.ly/1g3wFkD ) | [17:53] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22050 @ 0.00046688 = 10.2947 BTC [-] | [17:57] |
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| trinque | because there needed to be a /var/etc, that's why. | [18:26] |
| trinque | the filesystem hierarchy standard is as lulzy as TLDs | [18:27] |
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| trinque | oh actually on linux it's /var/lib/misc for what I was trying to find... even better | [18:30] |
| punkman | not really a standard | [18:31] |
| punkman | lulzy differences between distros | [18:31] |
| trinque | insofar as the LSB thing took | [18:31] |
| trinque | I guess | [18:31] |
| kakobrekla | https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/greek-bailout-fund lulz | [18:37] |
| assbot | Greek Bailout Fund | Indiegogo ... ( http://bit.ly/1KlrMON ) | [18:37] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29450 @ 0.00047145 = 13.8842 BTC [+] | [18:38] |
| lobbes | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179154 << Done. It -should- spit out a link to teh actual URL now instead of just the RSS feed | [18:47] |
| assbot | Logged on 27-06-2015 19:58:44; asciilifeform: ;;later tell lobbes can haz the url of phuctored key preserved in bot ? ty | [18:47] |
| lobbes | mircea_popescu: this will apply for #eulora too | [18:48] |
| kakobrekla | http://i.imgur.com/iOQx5Gz.jpg | [19:00] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1efjfkc ) | [19:00] |
| cazalla | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1181148 <<< i'll need to confirm this with the embassy | [19:01] |
| assbot | Logged on 29-06-2015 18:10:20; mircea_popescu: i can affirm under oath that the whole argentina btc market is under 10 btc / day | [19:01] |
| BingoBoingo | kakobrekla: Win | [19:01] |
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| mod6 | ascii_field: ok, so there is a way to signal to the dot graph utility to build a graph in a given direction. the default seems to be R->L, and there are only 3 given options: RL, LR, or BT. And if you give it no directional option, it seems to do Top->Bottom which is what we want I think. This thing is quite customizable actually. | [19:18] |
| mod6 | I haven't quited figured out yet how to make this happen.. but there is a way to do this, somehow. | [19:18] |
| asciilifeform | !up ascii_field | [19:18] |
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| ascii_field | mod6: neat! | [19:18] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 250850 @ 0.00045777 = 114.8316 BTC [-] {4} | [19:21] |
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| ben_vulpes | asciilifeform ascii_field: ProcessBlock should probably not do that thing where it refuses to import already-seen blocks, instead it should obey its master and snarf up whatever | [19:31] |
| ben_vulpes | this does make for an interesting question of what to do with the chain after an interstitial block has been snarfed - reverify everything? do nothing? | [19:39] |
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| mod6 | ok this can be done, one must turn off DOT_CLEANUP then do some scripting to iterate through all of the .dot files created and then sed the rankdir out of the config. | [19:43] |
| mod6 | but.. problem is, these aren't much better top to bottom than left to right, they're still gonna be pretty wide. | [19:44] |
| mod6 | lot more config would be required to get them narrow enough to be "nice" | [19:44] |
| mod6 | i'll come back to this later. | [19:44] |
| mod6 | at least it can be manipualted | [19:44] |
| decimation | mod6: are you trying to make a 'dot' graph of the blockchain? | [19:44] |
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| ben_vulpes | decimation: the bitcoind sources | [19:46] |
| mod6 | ah yeah this ^ | [19:47] |
| decimation | ah | [19:48] |
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| decimation | but, are you displaying call graphs? | [19:48] |
| decimation | or how data is processed? | [19:48] |
| mod6 | ya call graphs | [19:48] |
| decimation | in this vein, it might be useful to create a version of the bitcoind source with all the C preprocessor directives unrolled | [19:48] |
| mod6 | take a look through here if you like: http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1/ | [19:49] |
| assbot | bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE: Main Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1efmWXf ) | [19:49] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 134150 @ 0.00047673 = 63.9533 BTC [+] {4} | [19:49] |
| mod6 | decimation: ah, well, once i get this sorted out, maybe I can do something about that part too. | [19:49] |
| decimation | in some ways, the code is 'easier' to read with all of the macros in one spot | [19:50] |
| decimation | but in another way (ie unwinding call graphs) it would be 'easier' if the preprocessor macros were unwound | [19:50] |
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| BingoBoingo | Too Much Beetus Juice to carry https://i.imgur.com/yfTyF44.jpg | [19:56] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1HugJEa ) | [19:56] |
| ben_vulpes | ahahahaha | [19:58] |
| cazalla | what is that BingoBoingo ? | [19:59] |
| BingoBoingo | cazalla: It's refillable mega sized gas station mugs on a handcart. | [20:00] |
| cazalla | but what is the drink? | [20:00] |
| BingoBoingo | Can't tell | [20:01] |
| cazalla | looks like protein powder, mebe they're getting their exercise on ya fat shamer (hater) | [20:02] |
| BingoBoingo | No, some of the gas station mugs share that similar shape and coloration | [20:03] |
| ben_vulpes | Big Gulp ™ | [20:05] |
| ben_vulpes | ;;later tell pete_dushenski hypothesis Model T: "i am a beta fuck"-mobile. thoughts? | [20:11] |
| gribble | The operation succeeded. | [20:11] |
| ben_vulpes | ;;later tell pete_dushenski hypothesis re: model t, i suppose would be better | [20:11] |
| gribble | The operation succeeded. | [20:11] |
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| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72600 @ 0.0004864 = 35.3126 BTC [+] {4} | [20:25] |
| mod6 | ok actualy, those graphs dont looks as bad as I had thought. | [20:31] |
| mod6 | i think maybe they should go the other direction tho? so anyway, I'm gonna put up a temp/test dir so you guys can take a look | [20:31] |
| mod6 | i've orientated them Top->Bottom "TB" | [20:31] |
| mod6 | out of like 1600 odd graphs, only ~1450 actually have a config with the standard directional line in there "rankdir" | [20:32] |
| mod6 | so.. there's like a bunch that might still go another directoin | [20:32] |
| mod6 | 1487 i guess | [20:34] |
| mod6 | alright, try it out here: http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/test/ | [20:38] |
| assbot | bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE: Main Page ... ( http://bit.ly/1LRyhI7 ) | [20:38] |
| mod6 | asciilifeform && ascii_field ^^ | [20:39] |
| mod6 | i should add that i can make these SVG graphs too, if that seems like it might be somehow better | [20:40] |
| ben_vulpes | http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/test/net_8cpp.html << aha this is great | [20:41] |
| assbot | bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE: bitcoin/src/net.cpp File Reference ... ( http://bit.ly/1IoRLFh ) | [20:41] |
| ben_vulpes | i wonder what red/black/grey boxes around the files mean. | [20:42] |
| mod6 | www.stack.nl/~dimitri/doxygen/manual/diagrams.html << check out the section about half way down that says "elements in the graphs generated by the dot tool have the following meaning:" | [20:46] |
| ben_vulpes | you can tell me to rtfm my feels won't get all hurt :P | [20:47] |
| mod6 | this thing's documentation is kinda spotty, ironically | [20:47] |
| scoopbot_revived | Audible's app is another symptom of the Update-Upgrade Disease. http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/29/audibles-app-is-another-symptom-of-the-update-upgrade-disease/ | [20:50] |
| ben_vulpes | ah they're probably deprecating some old api, pete_dushenski | [20:51] |
| decimation | ideally it would be nice to have call graphs that trace the movement of data | [20:58] |
| ben_vulpes | there's about a mile of difference between an 'app' that does god-knows-what on your iPnohe and a piece of code that...can be inspected. | [20:58] |
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| ben_vulpes | !up tcrypt | [20:58] |
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| ben_vulpes | allo | [20:58] |
| ben_vulpes | who're you? | [20:58] |
| ben_vulpes | decimation: d'you know of anything that does that? | [20:59] |
| decimation | man I think I remember seeing automated call graph code | [20:59] |
| ben_vulpes | tcrypt: syn | [21:00] |
| decimation | I don't see any graphs on that doxygen/test page | [21:00] |
| decimation | maybe codeviz does it? http://www.csn.ul.ie/~mel/projects/codeviz/ | [21:01] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1IoSZQI ) | [21:01] |
| tcrypt | ben_vulpes: sorry, was the "who're you?" directed toward me? I'm just a dude interested in assets on the blockchain | [21:01] |
| tcrypt | seemed like a good channel to join | [21:01] |
| ben_vulpes | !s colored coins | [21:02] |
| assbot | 137 results for 'colored coins' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=colored+coins | [21:02] |
| ben_vulpes | there's your research task for showing up | [21:02] |
| ben_vulpes | la serenissima runs on deficits :P | [21:02] |
| decimation | !s crypto-enthusiast | [21:03] |
| assbot | 1 results for 'crypto-enthusiast' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=crypto-enthusiast | [21:03] |
| ben_vulpes | !s crypto enthusiast | [21:03] |
| assbot | 2 results for 'crypto enthusiast' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=crypto+enthusiast | [21:03] |
| decimation | hehe | [21:03] |
| trinque | !s I'm just a dude | [21:04] |
| assbot | 7 results for 'I'm just a dude' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=I%27m+just+a+dude | [21:04] |
| decimation | "crypto fan" | [21:04] |
| decimation | !s "crypto fan" | [21:04] |
| assbot | 1 results for '"crypto fan"' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=%22crypto+fan%22 | [21:04] |
| decimation | From Taleb: "In one of the rare noncharlatanic books in finance, descriptively called What I Learned Losing a Million Dollars, the protagonist makes a big discovery. He remarks that a fellow named Joe Siegel, one of the most successful traders in a commodity called ?green lumber,? actually thought that it was lumber painted green (rather than freshly cut lumber, called green because it had not been dried). And he made it his professio | [21:08] |
| decimation | "Every intelligent person in socioeconomics had his theory, probabilities, scenarios, | [21:09] |
| decimation | and all that. Except Fat Tony. ... All he knew is that suckers exist. ... If you asked any intelligent ?analyst? or journalist at the time, he would have predicted a rise in the price of oil in the event of war. But that causal link was precisely what Tony could not take for granted. So he bet against it: they are all prepared for a rise in oil from war, so the price must have adjusted to it. " | [21:10] |
| decimation | Thus, one can be a crypto-enthusiast and yet have no idea how bitcoin trading works | [21:10] |
| decimation | or how to name a single pubkey algo | [21:10] |
| mircea_popescu | i have my doubts. | [21:14] |
| mircea_popescu | ;;later tell diana_coman actually they'd be vaginal pears, but yeah. | [21:15] |
| gribble | The operation succeeded. | [21:15] |
| mircea_popescu | !up coalbe | [21:15] |
| -assbot- | You voiced coalbe for 30 minutes. | [21:15] |
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| mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1181240 << myeah. | [21:16] |
| assbot | Logged on 29-06-2015 20:38:44; ascii_field: 'Stallman recently tried what I would call a hostile takeover of the glibc development. He tried to conspire behind my back and persuade the other main developers to take control so that in the end he is in control and can dictate whatever pleases him. This attempt failed but he kept on pressuring people everywhere and it got really ugly. In the end I agreed to the creation of a so-ca | [21:16] |
| decimation | "State police Superintendent Joseph D'Amico says agents told Matt to put up his hands. He says Matt "was shot when he didn't comply."" | [21:17] |
| decimation | I'm not really complaining if the new policy is to just summarily execute outlaws, but who gets to decide the list of outlaws? | [21:17] |
| mircea_popescu | me. | [21:17] |
| mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1181262 << cool beans! | [21:18] |
| assbot | Logged on 29-06-2015 21:44:20; lobbes: mircea_popescu: this will apply for #eulora too | [21:18] |
| mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1181287 << yes. | [21:19] |
| assbot | Logged on 29-06-2015 22:44:50; decimation: in this vein, it might be useful to create a version of the bitcoind source with all the C preprocessor directives unrolled | [21:19] |
| mircea_popescu | somehow i suspect spider queen alf has this very fly entangled somewhere and has been salivating over for x time :D | [21:19] |
| mircea_popescu | and in other news : the bitcoin chamber of commerce is shifting activities a little. http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m27z7384r01rqgaeyo1_1280.jpg | [21:20] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHSEoa ) | [21:20] |
| assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56600 @ 0.00045483 = 25.7434 BTC [-] | [21:21] |
| decimation | maybe she is a crypto-enthusiast too | [21:23] |
| mircea_popescu | clearly ahead of the reddit curve in any sense | [21:23] |
| decimation | ben_vulpes: http://valgrind.org/docs/manual/cl-manual.html < valgrind has a gadget for callgraph creation too | [21:27] |
| assbot | Valgrind ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHTH7i ) | [21:27] |
| decimation | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9279144/interpreting-callgrind-data < apparently gprof2dot can shit a dot output | [21:28] |
| assbot | valgrind - Interpreting callgrind data - Stack Overflow ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHTQrD ) | [21:28] |
| * | assbot removes voice from tcrypt | [21:28] |
| asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1181315 << very spiffy | [21:31] |
| assbot | Logged on 29-06-2015 23:34:53; mod6: alright, try it out here: http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/test/ | [21:31] |
| * | asciilifeform a bit biased, as he uses vertical displays | [21:31] |
| mircea_popescu | spiffy indeed | [21:31] |
| mod6 | i have only horiz displays, and it looks way better for me too | [21:31] |
| mod6 | decimation: thanks for the heads up on callgrind call graphs -- if IgProf (instead of gprof) can do that also, i'll definately build some when I finally get to those profiles. | [21:32] |
| asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1181273 << this sounds like a terrifyingly bad idea: if i run sync after mircea_popescu plugs his node back in, and end up with conflicting blocks, the very last thing i want is for it to silently 'fix' | [21:34] |
| assbot | Logged on 29-06-2015 22:27:54; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform ascii_field: ProcessBlock should probably not do that thing where it refuses to import already-seen blocks, instead it should obey its master and snarf up whatever | [21:34] |
| mod6 | Since we all seem to like the Top->Bottom graphs better, I'll re-generate & post them possibly tonight. tomorrow at latest. i've still got about 30% left of SoBA to finish first. | [21:34] |
| mike_c | http://trilema.com/2015/the-actual-state-of-the-bitcoin-network/#footnote_1_62404 | [21:34] |
| assbot | The actual state of the Bitcoin network on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KlOEOo ) | [21:34] |
| mike_c | mircea_popescu: You left us hanging there! Since it's missing, I must know what those points of interest are :) | [21:34] |
| mike_c | maybe this is why I hate footnotes more than most. most don't read them? | [21:35] |
| * | asciilifeform not only reads, but sometimes starts with footnotes | [21:36] |
| mike_c | goddamn "must complete" gene | [21:36] |
| mike_c | starts? :) that must be confusing | [21:36] |
| asciilifeform | nah | [21:37] |
| asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181371 << almost inevitably the result of this simple experiment is quite unreadable. anyone who wants to try is welcome to: gcc -E | [21:39] |
| assbot | Logged on 30-06-2015 00:15:06; assbot: Logged on 29-06-2015 22:44:50; decimation: in this vein, it might be useful to create a version of the bitcoind source with all the C preprocessor directives unrolled | [21:39] |
| asciilifeform | afaik gcc does not support multiple ~levels~ of macro expansion (these are braindamaged c macros after all, not a lisp macro system with actual control over evaluation) | [21:40] |
| asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181363 << even if rms no longer writes (and i'm informed that this may be the case in recent years) he is still tremendously useful as a 'fire magnet' for shitgnomes | [21:42] |
| assbot | Logged on 30-06-2015 00:12:52; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-06-2015#1181240 << myeah. | [21:42] |
| asciilifeform | they can't resist | [21:42] |
| asciilifeform | and thereby reveal their position | [21:43] |
| asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181387 << my igprof patch for therealbitcoin is almost certainly b0rked by the 'dumpblock' addition. but fixing it ought to be trivial - good project for any of the less-experienced folks here | [21:44] |
| assbot | Logged on 30-06-2015 00:28:51; mod6: decimation: thanks for the heads up on callgrind call graphs -- if IgProf (instead of gprof) can do that also, i'll definately build some when I finally get to those profiles. | [21:44] |
| asciilifeform | (easiest method is to actually understand the changes, as one ought to in any case, and re-apply them by hand, then produce new patch) | [21:44] |
| asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181360 << l0l, must've missed that thread! | [21:45] |
| assbot | Logged on 30-06-2015 00:11:15; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell diana_coman actually they'd be vaginal pears, but yeah. | [21:45] |
| asciilifeform | (but i distinctly recall a 'pear' thread ages ago, where somebody pointed out that the two types can be distinguished by the presence of 'cervix pliers' on the business end) | [21:46] |
| * | assbot removes voice from coalbe | [21:46] |
| asciilifeform | http://lenta.ru/news/2015/06/29/flibusta << mega-l0l. ru dept. of net censorship blocks ~the~ w4r3z library, but not for just anything, but for hosting... bradbury's '451 fahrenheit' ! | [21:48] |
| assbot | Онлайн-библиотеку наказали за роман «451 градус по Фаренгейту»: Интернет: Интернет и СМИ: Lenta.ru ... ( http://bit.ly/1IHWMEB ) | [21:48] |
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| asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181365 << my understanding is that this is sop in usa when the escapee is considered 'armed and dangerous' (tm) | [21:57] |
| assbot | Logged on 30-06-2015 00:12:59; decimation: "State police Superintendent Joseph D'Amico says agents told Matt to put up his hands. He says Matt "was shot when he didn't comply."" | [21:57] |
| asciilifeform | esp. if no witnesses | [21:57] |
| asciilifeform | the presumption is that a fella who is facing a return to life in hard prison might have an arse grenade, etc., or otherwise disinclined to 'go quietly' | [21:58] |
| asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-06-2015#1181377 << my current understanding is that the blackout in 'reddit' et al. re: therealbitcoin is more or less total. | [21:59] |
| assbot | Logged on 30-06-2015 00:19:55; mircea_popescu: clearly ahead of the reddit curve in any sense | [21:59] |
| asciilifeform | (if anyone here is a regular reader of these snakepits and knows of evidence to the contrary, it would be interesting to see it) | [22:00] |
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| asciilifeform | achtung, panzers! | [22:48] |
| asciilifeform | ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: | [22:48] |
| asciilifeform | http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-June/000105.html | [22:48] |
| assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kq5rRK ) | [22:48] |
| asciilifeform | '(EXPERIMENTAL) Raw Block Eater' | [22:48] |
| asciilifeform | (before anyone asks: doesn't require the weird asciification that using 'getmemorypool' to import blocks would) | [22:49] |
| asciilifeform | quoting from the ml msg, | [22:49] |
| asciilifeform | 'Using 'dumpblock' and 'eatblock', it is now possible to move blockchains around via various direct channels (e.g., pigeon.)' | [22:49] |
| asciilifeform | now whoever dares, can ask a node to crap out blocks n ... n+k, pgp-sign, bring them to node having blocks j ... n-1, and 'feed' them to it. | [22:55] |
| decimation | re: armed and dangerous < I guess. http://www.nbc-2.com/story/29419491/one-of-two-escaped-murderers-from-new-york-prison-shot | [22:59] |
| assbot | Officers search for New York escapee Sweat - NBC-2.com WBBH News for Fort Myers, Cape Coral & Naples, Florida ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kq5XiT ) | [22:59] |
| decimation | "Authorities have warned from the start that the pair of fugitives might get their hands on guns. Matt did. And it may have been his undoing at that moment. Matt didn't shoot, but he also didn't comply with officers' order, so they opened fire." | [22:59] |
| decimation | ""We recovered a 20-gauge shotgun from Matt's body at the location," said D'Amico." < of course | [23:00] |
| decimation | http://spdblotter.seattle.gov/2015/06/29/woman-knocked-unconscious-at-parade-by-falling-drone/ < lolz "A 25-year-old woman was knocked unconscious Sunday after she was struck by a small drone aircraft while attending the Pride parade in downtown Seattle." | [23:04] |
| assbot | Woman Knocked Unconscious At Parade By Falling Drone ... ( http://bit.ly/1Kq6jGa ) | [23:04] |
| decimation | "At the scene, one the victim?s friends handed over the damaged drone?which retails for about $1200 and weighs about 2 pounds?and provided photographs of a man, who may have been piloting the aircraft." | [23:04] |
| decimation | I wonder if it is now sop to summarily execute drone pilots too | [23:05] |
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| asciilifeform | ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: in case this was not clear, it is now possible for the first time to carry out FULLY DETERMINISTIC tests of therealbitcoin (memory consumption, etc) by denying a node a net connection and syncing from disk using 'eatblock'. | [23:36] |
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| asciilifeform | this will also shed some light on the effect of the mempool on resource consumption... | [23:37] |
| mircea_popescu | pretty epic all this shit. | [23:37] |
| mircea_popescu | best week of bitcoin. | [23:37] |
| asciilifeform | l0l | [23:37] |
| asciilifeform | pretty basic | [23:37] |
| mircea_popescu | yes. | [23:37] |
| asciilifeform | http://kryptoradio.koodilehto.fi << via Vexual | [23:38] |
| assbot | Kryptoradio by Koodilehto ... ( http://bit.ly/1g4pfO3 ) | [23:39] |
| asciilifeform | will be interesting to compare their blocks with ours. | [23:39] |
| decimation | why the gay rainbow bitcoin logo | [23:40] |
| asciilifeform | could be the apple-II rainbow | [23:40] |
| asciilifeform | or the rain rainbow | [23:40] |
| decimation | heh | [23:40] |
| asciilifeform | or even the commodore-64 rainbow. | [23:41] |
| decimation | "QSL cards" are customary in ham radio circles; a postcard is sent to acknowledge contact | [23:41] |
| decimation | asciilifeform: actually it might be mildly interesting to know how they are 'serializing' the blocks | [23:43] |
| decimation | did the also implant parasite into bitcoind? | [23:43] |
| asciilifeform | i'll laugh to death if it's from 'blockchain.info' or the like | [23:44] |
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| mod6 | asciilifeform: re: ... the first time to carry out FULLY DETERMINISTIC tests ... << yeah this is great! | [23:47] |
| asciilifeform | mod6: i, for one, am rather curious whether we still get 200M+ footprint when there is ~no~ mempool | [23:47] |
| asciilifeform | (on a netless node) | [23:47] |
| decimation | actually it looks like the fins wrote a C client for bitcoin protocol https://github.com/koodilehto/kryptoradio/tree/master/data_sources/bitcoin/src | [23:48] |
| assbot | kryptoradio/data_sources/bitcoin/src at master · koodilehto/kryptoradio · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1g4qCfv ) | [23:48] |
| * | asciilifeform actually wrote something not unlike ^ a few yrs ago | [23:49] |
| asciilifeform | for an entirely unrelated and - today - uninteresting - purpose | [23:49] |
| decimation | what purpose? | [23:51] |
| asciilifeform | blockchain telegraphy | [23:51] |
| decimation | hehe | [23:51] |
| asciilifeform | it is now also possible to elementarily ferret out certain kinds of leaks - e.g., does importing the same bastard block ten thousand times result in an increase in ram footprint ? if so, we have leak | [23:56] |
| asciilifeform | and whatever test (igprof, etc) can now be carried out stepwise (that is, after each added block) | [23:56] |
| asciilifeform | i will leave the possible variations on this theme to the alert reader. | [23:57] |
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