Forum logs for 29 Jan 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04888887 = 0.1956 BTC [+] {2} [00:08]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18676 @ 0.00088922 = 16.6071 BTC [+] [00:19]
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FabianB ;;premium mtgox btce [00:23]
gribble Premium of MtGox over BTC-E is currently 20.7417304756 %. [00:23]
pankkake torvalds is probably 1) unaware of the website 2) rich enough to not care about $136 [00:23]
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pankkake I'd certainly like a bounty system for open source devs, but I'm not very convinced "tips" can work and reward the right people [00:23]
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pankkake https://www.gittip.com/ for a fiat version [00:25]
ozbot Gittip [00:25]
pankkake lol to receiver "I am making the world better by facilitating conversations about diversity, inclusivity and social justice in the hopes of promoting empathy and equality within the tech community." [00:25]
pankkake top* [00:25]
mircea_popescu pankkake tips are exactly the wrong thing in that they would split the community into two types, the actual devs and the people who make a living pretending to be devs. [00:26]
mircea_popescu it's bad enough with fucktards a la maxwell or hearn hanging on to the thing just for the "fame" [00:26]
mircea_popescu god forbid they start making a living at it, it'll be the death of os. [00:26]
pankkake it's often working that way in the circles I know, tip or not [00:26]
mircea_popescu myeah. [00:27]
pankkake some excellent devs have no social media presence, almost no existence besides posting enormous git patches on mailing lists ;) [00:27]
kakobrekla shrooms. [00:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04888887 = 0.1956 BTC [+] {2} [00:30]
ThickAsThieves the new blockchain.info logo looks lame [00:30]
ThickAsThieves it was better before [00:30]
ThickAsThieves it was also better in blue [00:31]
pankkake they're fixing the css instead of fixing the real bugs :/ [00:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.04899999 = 0.147 BTC [+] [00:31]
kakobrekla but css is the real bug [00:31]
pankkake sometimes it multiples the btcs by a random number that makes no sense and adds a $, is that css? [00:32]
kakobrekla hehe [00:32]
mircea_popescu it's c$$ [00:32]
mircea_popescu i have the world's best roast in the ovben and it is KILLING ME [00:33]
pankkake Cϟϟ [00:34]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.1065 BTC [+] [00:35]
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davout ThickAsThieves: it looks kinda fuzzy/dirty [00:47]
turbo_ac100 mircea_popescu: do people repair in Romania? [00:47]
davout or maybe its just my glasses [00:47]
turbo_ac100 electronics I mean [00:48]
mircea_popescu notrly. [00:50]
mircea_popescu why ? [00:50]
ThickAsThieves davout, it's poor ability to scale and questionable typography are signs they didn't hire a quality pro [00:51]
ThickAsThieves its [00:51]
turbo_ac100 I have a repair business and want to find stuff in eastern europe [00:51]
ThickAsThieves i should get into bitcoin business brand mgmt [00:51]
turbo_ac100 *staff rather [00:51]
ThickAsThieves teach these people to scam like adults [00:51]
ThickAsThieves (that's a joke) [00:52]
mircea_popescu wow it's still a business ? [00:52]
mircea_popescu you may find decent elec engineers on the cheap, but i doubt they'd have much practice fixing stuff. tinkering on their own more like it. [00:52]
turbo_ac100 well, a repair website is. Not complicated stuff, just more or less an ifixit done right [00:53]
mircea_popescu interesting. [00:53]
ThickAsThieves another possibility for blockchain's logo is their internal pm didn't take the advice of said hired pro [00:53]
turbo_ac100 ifixit.com tries to go to europe big time but they still pretty much suck [00:53]
ThickAsThieves common [00:53]
mircea_popescu so what'd i repair ? [00:53]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves they changed it once before, and it went the same way, shittier after. [00:54]
turbo_ac100 appliances is the proper term I think. Phones, laptops, Xboxes and so on [00:54]
ThickAsThieves sounds like they have an engineer in charge of branding [00:54]
mircea_popescu i am surprised fixing your own iphone isn't against the tos. [00:55]
azi` its in a way crazy that we just throw stuff when something trivial breaks off [00:55]
mircea_popescu it is. [00:55]
Dimsler_ lol [00:56]
Dimsler_ took shrem away [00:56]
punkman azi`: it costs a lot to debug modern electronics, not trivial [00:56]
turbo_ac100 azi`: that's what I think, too. [00:56]
Dimsler_ i honestly hate the bitcoin foundation [00:56]
Dimsler_ collection of retards [00:56]
mircea_popescu welcome to the club. [00:56]
azi` yeah but it probably costs a lot because the infrastructure for debugging is not built [00:56]
mircea_popescu thoi they're more comedic than anything. keeping other retards busy [00:56]
ThickAsThieves an iphone is just an expensive integrated circuit [00:56]
turbo_ac100 punkman: some things are hard to debug the obvious things we do well [00:56]
Dimsler_ all those clowns do is more damage than good [00:56]
ThickAsThieves replace the whole thing! [00:56]
punkman though I agree, throwing away a perfectly good TV with a blow capacitor is an incredible waste [00:56]
azi` its probably the same way with software if you don't put debugging capability in your code [00:56]
punkman *blow [00:56]
punkman *blown [00:56]
Dimsler_ well i jus tdon't like how gavin has that bitcoind sourceforge key [00:57]
azi` to change the topic a bit so what's this thing with shrem, was he actually a shady guy? [00:57]
Dimsler_ not like it matters [00:57]
ThickAsThieves yet they still make xmas lights with individually replaceable bulbs [00:57]
turbo_ac100 for the non obvious things it works like this: sedn the device to some guy knowing his shit, pay a fixed amount that covers a basic fix (~20€) and get it debugged [00:57]
Dimsler_ anyone watch NYS inquiry today? [00:57]
Dimsler_ one of the guys totally owned charles lee [00:58]
punkman turbo_ac100: does that work with big items? [00:58]
ThickAsThieves who owned him? [00:58]
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mircea_popescu Dimsler_ not like anyone actually uses the new versions anywya. [00:58]
ThickAsThieves i started not paying attention [00:58]
punkman been waiting 2 months to get the damn dishwasher fixed [00:58]
Dimsler_ with the highlander quote of btc being the best one [00:58]
ThickAsThieves dishwashers are all disposable these days [00:59]
KRS1 nothing really came of it, at least for now [00:59]
mircea_popescu azi` not as far as anyone knew, he seemed the regular 20something reefer. [00:59]
ThickAsThieves i got mine "fixed" [00:59]
ThickAsThieves waste of money [00:59]
punkman mine is expensive and nicew [00:59]
turbo_ac100 punkman: difficult. It depends: for washing machines you have to have a license to repair it. The pricing is insane [00:59]
mircea_popescu washing machines, at least what i've seen, contain a 20 to 50lb piece of concrete [00:59]
punkman yah I'm waiting for the official repair guy to get the damn part [01:00]
mircea_popescu shipping that shit around is a waste. [01:00]
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turbo_ac100 mircea_popescu: sure, nobody sends those [01:00]
mircea_popescu besides, you should be able to fix that yourself [01:00]
mircea_popescu it's an engine and three contacts. [01:00]
turbo_ac100 lol I don't need romanians for that [01:01]
ThickAsThieves if i fixed all the things i could fix myself myself, would i still be american? [01:01]
turbo_ac100 mircea_popescu: plus assloads of planned obsolesence circuitry sadly [01:01]
davout i just read that "it's an engine and three contracts" XD [01:01]
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mircea_popescu turbo_ac100 i meant the impersonal you. whoever's machine breaks [01:02]
mircea_popescu davout lol [01:02]
turbo_ac100 in austria one big NGO has offices all over austria where they replace the µcs for better efficiency and longer life [01:03]
mircea_popescu last time mine broke down it was fun, i taught teh girlz electrics. [01:03]
turbo_ac100 mircea_popescu: sure [01:03]
punkman mircea_popescu: do you happen to know what's the most recent Thinkpad without Intel AMT crap? [01:03]
mircea_popescu i don't. [01:03]
mircea_popescu is the thinkpad like the most beloved laptop design of all time by now ? [01:04]
punkman possibly [01:04]
turbo_ac100 I like the austrian way but prefer a real business obv. [01:04]
turbo_ac100 what about romanian developers? [01:05]
mircea_popescu what about them ? [01:08]
turbo_ac100 Well, I heard it about Sofia that developers are often times willing to study somewhere in the EU and go back to Bulgaria despite way lower wages. Maybe it's the same in Bucharest? [01:10]
mircea_popescu prolly. [01:11]
mircea_popescu what do they care, internet. [01:11]
turbo_ac100 Some people still want to sit in an office for w/ever reason and go local. [01:11]
mircea_popescu no, actually, eastern europe has much better hdi than the rest of the world. [01:12]
mircea_popescu people like the local food, the local girls, the local atmosphere [01:12]
mircea_popescu and they'll be fucked if they'll live in the shithole that is the uk or w/e [01:12]
mircea_popescu can't even get decent pickles. [01:12]
mircea_popescu the jews and the italians resolved this problem in the 1920s ny by inventing the deli. [01:13]
KRS1 The day the deli was invented in the 1920s..well, this was a sacred day. Long live the deli. [01:13]
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turbo_ac100 That's why I'd like to have an office there... [01:14]
mircea_popescu well so get one, it's not expensive. [01:15]
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turbo_ac100 I'm off getting the necessary funding. start-up life sucks. later [01:18]
turbo_ac100 :P [01:18]
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mircea_popescu lol later. [01:18]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26250 @ 0.00088817 = 23.3145 BTC [-] {2} [01:23]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 1463 @ 0.000091 = 0.1331 BTC [+] [01:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00088562 = 6.9521 BTC [-] [01:36]
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mircea_popescu openbsd story, mpoe climbs to 1. shrem story, mpoe back to 8x [01:41]
mircea_popescu i guess the greatest loser there is me. [01:41]
mircea_popescu IT IS NOT MY FAULT SOME KID SMOKES THE BONG [01:41]
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ThickAsThieves hmm Gmail won't let me be in two accounts if I use Opera now [01:47]
ThickAsThieves wtf [01:47]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7650 @ 0.00088562 = 6.775 BTC [-] [01:51]
ThickAsThieves i think i figured it out [01:52]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 41 @ 0.00311694 = 0.1278 BTC [-] {2} [01:53]
kakobrekla opera went to shit [01:54]
kakobrekla im still using it though [01:54]
asciilifeform i'd dearly love to hear of a current www browser that hasn't gone to shit. [01:57]
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kakobrekla is why im still using o. [01:58]
asciilifeform interesting how a closed-source browser is still so beloved [02:00]
kakobrekla its not so beloved. [02:01]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform antiques. [02:01]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1200 @ 0.00085984 = 1.0318 BTC [+] {5} [02:04]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10936 @ 0.00088455 = 9.6734 BTC [-] {3} [02:13]
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BingoBoingo punkman: A number of the AMD Thinkpads don't or at least shouldn't have that (May lack that and possess something else). I think the X140e is the newest of that bunch. [02:15]
mircea_popescu so i google to find if i ever reviewed boiler room, the movie. what do i find ? [02:15]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2013&bots=true#102590 [02:15]
ozbot #bitcoin-assets log [02:15]
mircea_popescu prolly should be in the scientology thread, doing the guy's research for him. [02:15]
mike_c lowlife goatherder. harsh! [02:17]
mike_c wow, there are over 1m goats in romania. [02:18]
mircea_popescu how the fuck do you know that ?! [02:19]
mike_c random internet page of course. [02:19]
mike_c http://ercg2014.org/goat-breeding-in-romania/ [02:19]
ozbot Goat Breeding in Romania | ERCG 2014 [02:19]
mike_c how could it not be true? [02:19]
mike_c "The number of goat is about 1220000." hehe [02:20]
mircea_popescu reason i ask is, recently the government was embarassed to all hell [02:20]
mircea_popescu because it couldn't produce a total figure for porcines in the country [02:20]
mircea_popescu notwithstanding they do expensive tagging and whatnot. [02:20]
mike_c pigs i can't help with. [02:21]
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pankkake I saw The Wolf of Wall Street. first part felt like Bitcoin [02:21]
mircea_popescu animals have individual health bulletins [02:21]
mircea_popescu pankkake since you mention it, http://trilema.com/2014/the-wolf-of-wall-street/ [02:21]
ThickAsThieves http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/28/us-usa-spectrum-channelsharing-idUSBREA0R1Q120140128 [02:23]
ozbot U.S. wireless group proposes TV channel-sharing pilot [02:23]
ThickAsThieves theyre gonna broadcast on same waves to prove it can be done [02:23]
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ThickAsThieves bets wall st portrayal is American Psycho [02:25]
ThickAsThieves best* [02:25]
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ThickAsThieves :) [02:25]
pankkake I am so many trilema articles behind [02:26]
mircea_popescu one can not keep up [02:26]
mircea_popescu my mother can not keep up [02:26]
pankkake hm. so I should get a slave to TL;DR it for me [02:26]
pankkake maybe I'll read that Asylum thing on my ereader [02:27]
mircea_popescu seems to me if you pay a woman to read trilema a slave is you. [02:29]
mircea_popescu she gets all the fun [02:29]
pankkake anyway I liked TWoWS, weird as I both dislike movies about drugs and di caprio. technically the movies good without making sense [02:29]
pankkake I wish there was more emphasis on the actual financial part [02:30]
mircea_popescu dude... [02:30]
mircea_popescu idiot kid is shown droping acid or w/e pre exam [02:30]
mircea_popescu then he "passed it" [02:31]
mircea_popescu magically. [02:31]
mircea_popescu like that. [02:31]
mircea_popescu what's this, like a telenovella, people are supposedly working but nobody does anything ever. [02:31]
pankkake I'm not used to read long things on a computer. Except amateur porn stories I guess [02:32]
pankkake actually that's how I started to learn English outside of education :D [02:32]
mircea_popescu jesus. [02:32]
Apocalyptic mircea_popescu, have you watched Black mirror yet ? [02:33]
mircea_popescu nop [02:33]
Apocalyptic some material for trilema articles in there imo [02:34]
mircea_popescu i don't really do tv series [02:34]
mike_c i hope you weren't saying you didn't enjoy boiler room. granted, it's not good film, but it is enjoyable. [02:34]
Apocalyptic nor do I, but i'm kinda sure you'll like this [02:34]
Apocalyptic it's not even a tv serie as in the episodes are completely unrelated to each other [02:34]
Apocalyptic consider it a set of mini films [02:34]
pankkake seems like the twilight zone [02:35]
mircea_popescu mike_c marginally. [02:35]
KRS1 mircea_popescu: did you at least do breaking bad? [02:35]
mircea_popescu it's pretty bad. one can enjoy the invasion of the alien robot gorillas too, [02:35]
KableKiB kakobrekla kanzure Keefe KingCoin knotwork Kromulus KRS1 Kushed [02:35]
mike_c only if done entertainingly though. [02:35]
mircea_popescu KRS1 i went through a few of that and game of thrones during an hour once [02:36]
mike_c ah, you did like the sting though. great movie, also with some odd plotlines. [02:36]
mircea_popescu the sting was good [02:36]
BingoBoingo mike_c: Does this link work for you? http://www.totalwebcasting.com/view/?id=nysdfs [02:37]
mike_c yeah, but i couldn't see the video because it was on edgecast. on a different connection now and it works. thanks for the link. [02:38]
BingoBoingo mike_c: You are welcome. All of these verbal tics... I dunno if I can actually transcribe this chairperson. Maybe wait for official transcripts or Odesk, then correct the inevitable mistakes? [02:40]
punkman Apocalyptic: Black Mirror was fun, especially the first one: "a much-loved member of the Royal Family, is kidnapped. For her safe return, the Prime Minister must have sexual intercourse with a pig on national television." [02:41]
Apocalyptic yeah [02:41]
Apocalyptic the second one was good too [02:41]
Apocalyptic kinda captured all murica there [02:41]
Apocalyptic and brilliantly executed [02:41]
mike_c heh. odesk is probably best to keep sanity intact. [02:41]
Apocalyptic seriously mircea you're missing out [02:41]
mircea_popescu ok ok. teh point is made. [02:42]
BingoBoingo mike_c: Reminds me of that Nefario video [02:42]
mircea_popescu from mike_c's earlier goatlink : "The number of goat is about 1220000." [02:43]
mircea_popescu much number... [02:43]
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punkman a goat conference you say [02:45]
punkman sounds interesting [02:45]
punkman do all animals have a conference? [02:45]
mircea_popescu pretty much all professions have a trade rag and a trade show [02:46]
BingoBoingo I have to wonder is a single Winkelvii incapable of undertaking any action on their own? [02:46]
punkman I thought they were conjoined [02:49]
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BingoBoingo If people don't take care to contain the spread of Winkelvii http://www.atlasobscura.com/places/world-s-largest-organism-2 [02:52]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 80 @ 0.00444997 = 0.356 BTC [-] [02:55]
mike_c ;;bc,24hprc [03:02]
gribble 839.04 [03:02]
nubbins` prc [03:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25650 @ 0.00088683 = 22.7472 BTC [+] {5} [03:04]
nubbins` price rub cocks [03:04]
mike_c bitcoincharts seems to be up, but not mpoe [03:04]
mike_c google needs to get those internet blimps out there already. [03:05]
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punkman http://www.alternativepig.eu/home.html [03:15]
ozbot Home [03:15]
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asciilifeform silly, everyone knows that 'alternative' pig is: 'long.' [03:18]
punkman so, the US has a patent for weaponized boar taint [03:21]
Duffer1 i feel there's comedy in there somewhere [03:21]
punkman http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect2=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/PTO/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&d=PALL&RefSrch=yes&Query=PN/6386113 [03:21]
asciilifeform alpha-androstenol ? [03:21]
ozbot United States Patent: 6386113 [03:21]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 12 @ 0.02999996 = 0.36 BTC [+] {2} [03:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 2280 @ 0.00086943 = 1.9823 BTC [+] {5} [03:39]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 8 @ 0.02999996 = 0.24 BTC [+] [13:09]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=435263.msg4809695#msg4809695 [13:10]
ozbot Personal responsibility and inept Bitcoin jesusing [13:10]
mircea_popescu dude mpoe-pr brings out the best in people. [13:10]
mircea_popescu anyone ever knew the noobs can be that cool ?! [13:10]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Prollu because this time she isn't shitting of their favored scams? [13:14]
mircea_popescu now that may be. [13:14]
mircea_popescu shittingb on them > shitting on their fav scam of the time. [13:14]
mircea_popescu at least themselves, they know that sucks. [13:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.0008842 = 8.1789 BTC [-] [13:16]
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punkman https://medium.com/p/24eb09e026dd [13:27]
mircea_popescu "Furthermore, notice that a winning bet of .011 returns less than the bet itself (despite its weight), if you even happen to get it. Something is clearly seriously wrong with that guy!! It would be nice if someone were to hack him (and all companies industrializing/profiting off the bitcoin with expensive rigs) and donate the bitcoins to charity (bitcoin100 or etc)." [13:28]
mircea_popescu check out the revolutionary minded scum. [13:28]
mircea_popescu this is the reason i do not wish to live in a world without opression, and this is why bullshit like "social justice" is outright immoral. [13:28]
mircea_popescu some people should be oppressed, and currently are not oppressed nearly enough. [13:29]
mircea_popescu punkman obviously, twitter and dns are shady services open to hackers and drug dealing. [13:30]
punkman I like that it still takes a few phone calls to steal whatever [13:30]
punkman nice domain you got there, shame you are not using it [13:31]
punkman I'll just take it [13:31]
BingoBoingo punkman: Amazing how GPG could have prevented that disaster. [13:31]
punkman BingoBoingo: well not if they just change your key when you call them [13:32]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo amazing how if you don't offer people any way to change their account they'll be unhappy. [13:32]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [13:32]
mircea_popescu this is the reason why, however. [13:32]
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BingoBoingo punkman: No one gets to change keys though unless they can sign the change with a still older key of theirs. [13:33]
punkman BingoBoingo: of course they do, "hey guys dog ate my key, can I change to this new one?" "ok" [13:34]
BingoBoingo punkman: And you revoke it by shear number of keys you exclusively control, or your identity is essentially dead. Not lost. Dead. [13:35]
mircea_popescu punkman people totally misunderstanding what customer service is. [13:35]
punkman mircea_popescu: what customer service? [13:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23665 @ 0.00088479 = 20.9386 BTC [+] {2} [13:36]
punkman they got too many users to give a fuck [13:36]
mircea_popescu well yes, customer service : hire a bunch of veggies to go "yes sir, sure sir, can do sir" to anyone walking in [13:37]
mircea_popescu regardless of anything [13:37]
punkman and they call it "live" support. [13:37]
punkman even if all they do is write an internal support ticket on your behalf [13:38]
mircea_popescu the test cheating mentality : they aren't trying to deliver, they just try to hack into your measures and make it seem like they do. [13:39]
punkman said message being "mr manager, dear customer says problem" [13:39]
mircea_popescu like, you imagine that talking to someone is more likely to resolve anything ? fine, they'll train dogs to talk to you. [13:39]
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mircea_popescu hacking is a much larger part of corporate culture than corporations willingly admit, even to themselves. [13:39]
mircea_popescu the same people who indignantly protest to the judge that random guy "hacked into their computers" just spent the entire day trying to hack their customers. [13:40]
nubbins` "can we disable the user's back button?" [13:40]
mircea_popescu yexactly. [13:41]
nubbins` fun fact, i once refused to make a code change on moral grounds [13:42]
mircea_popescu the amusing part, of course, being that cheating ACTUALLY IS being clever, but only IN SOME CONDITIONS. [13:42]
nubbins` ^ [13:42]
mircea_popescu by completely abandoning a critical review of those conditions, and instead going with formalisms, like [13:42]
mircea_popescu "cheating X way good, cheating Y way bad" [13:42]
mircea_popescu the results are appaling. [13:43]
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mircea_popescu this situation exactly mirrors the situation in speech, where people imagine "being nice" or "polite" consists of never using word X, such as nigger or fucktard, rather than, you know, actually being nice/polite/whatever [13:43]
mircea_popescu the results being again appaling. [13:43]
nubbins` being "professional" [13:44]
mircea_popescu myeah. [13:44]
nubbins` "where did this $9t go?" "we currently don't have that information until we finish our review" etc [13:44]
mircea_popescu "professional" is "guy in a suit". pure cargo cultism. [13:44]
nubbins` i was ruminating on this the other day [13:45]
nubbins` HOW CAN HE KNOW BUSINESS [13:45]
nubbins` HE WEARS NOT THE UNIFORM [13:45]
nubbins` strange creatures, humans [13:45]
mircea_popescu the obnoxious part is that i wear suits. always have. i was a highscooler with a three piece suit. [13:45]
mircea_popescu i happen to like them. but wtf is with all these weasels! [13:46]
nubbins` flapping your face = doing business [13:47]
punkman I like this: "being friendly: looking out for your interests. being polite: obeying social decorum." [13:47]
mircea_popescu lol where's that from ? [13:47]
punkman being polite is useless mostly [13:47]
nubbins` ^ this shows a fundamental misunderstanding of human nature [13:48]
punkman mircea_popescu: not sure I got it from here, but google says: http://sebastianmarshall.com/friendliness-and-politeness [13:49]
nubbins` being friendly: having a lel. being polite: inviting others to have a lel. [13:50]
mircea_popescu btw, if anyone wants to see me with a fro... http://trilema.com/2011/fototeca-de-haur/ i just dug it up [13:51]
nubbins` sebastian marshall had a lel writing that, and we had a lel reading it [13:51]
nubbins` we are friendly and he is polite! [13:51]
punkman that's a good fro [13:52]
mircea_popescu im not friendly! who is this guy [13:52]
nubbins` you're downright amicable. don't kid yourself [13:53]
mircea_popescu lol [13:54]
nubbins` http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/eu-tinar-8.jpg [13:54]
nubbins` "where are his arms? why is a laptop hanging from his belt?" [13:54]
nubbins` <- no coffee yet [13:54]
mircea_popescu lol [13:55]
mircea_popescu laptop utility belt, now that's an idea. [13:55]
mircea_popescu and speaking of ideas, i can't believe nobody invented the spots solarium yet. [13:55]
mircea_popescu you could have the light concentrate in particular places, make the girls look like leopards naturally. [13:55]
mircea_popescu i bet you there's good money in that. [13:55]
nubbins` mottled skin looks diseased [13:56]
mircea_popescu not if the spots are large enough [13:56]
mircea_popescu if they're say 2x2 to 3x5 or so they look... you know, like a leopard [13:56]
nubbins` http://www.truehealthclinic.org/images/vitiligo_c_p_BEFORE.jpg [13:57]
nubbins` yep, majestic hunter [13:57]
nubbins` you'd need to keep tanning the same spots too, so you'd end up with your skin prematurely aged in certain areas [13:57]
punkman you could take a vinyl body suit and cut some holes, wouldn't be very comfortable to tan in [13:57]
nubbins` wrinkle spots by age 30 [13:58]
mircea_popescu you just get one burn-in session [13:58]
mircea_popescu then come back next year for a new configuration [13:58]
nubbins` http://radiantskinclinic.com/resources/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/Skin_Lightening_Category.jpg [13:58]
mircea_popescu i guess this is why, gotta keep changing the machines [13:58]
nubbins` look at my beautiful leopard spots ;( [13:58]
KRS1 ;[ [13:59]
mircea_popescu nubbins` pick a younger one. [13:59]
nubbins` time for brekkies [13:59]
KRS1 .bait [13:59]
ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/c0436fd40234a5f84fd9db3b5ad611a7/tumblr_mexoihHqBQ1qzaab4o1_1280.jpg [13:59]
KRS1 you are hawt nubbins [13:59]
punkman .bait [14:02]
ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ma13iuiAeD1r6bw5mo1_1280.jpg [14:02]
punkman http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/first-ever-porsche-rediscovered-electric-power-1898-200915772.html [14:03]
ozbot First-Ever Porsche Rediscovered: Electric Power from 1898 - Yahoo Finance Canada [14:03]
mircea_popescu so it looks like argentina will be getting a currency reform [14:03]
mircea_popescu that's the fifth or so peso they ruined, those people. [14:03]
Duffer1 andreas antonopolous talked about that a bit recently in an interview with joe rogan [14:04]
Duffer1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cexawnOlR8&feature=youtu.be&a [14:05]
ozbot Joe Rogan Experience #446 - Andreas Antonopoulos - YouTube [14:05]
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Duffer1 it's a good interview if you need to brush up on some good sounding talking points [14:06]
mircea_popescu uh lol [14:07]
mircea_popescu from cnn right after the O speech last night: I think I’ve said before that I think a speech by Barack Obama is a lot like sex. The worst there ever was is still excellent, and I thought he gave a very competent performance tonight” [14:08]
mircea_popescu dude, poor brejnev. he never had such fluffers. [14:08]
BingoBoingo The wonders or beauracracy: Fill out the form or devise your own identical form http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2014/01/little_sisters_contraception_mandate_case_it_s_about_more_than_just_a_form.html [14:13]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo that entire dispute is pretty much a testament to how fundamentally unworkable the system has become [14:17]
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mircea_popescu can you explain to me what it's about ? [14:17]
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mircea_popescu i mean... i don't get it, i consider myself educated and so forth but i can't come to a conclusion [14:18]
truffles an intellectual but not a genius :D [14:19]
mircea_popescu are they saying "we don't have to sign something we don't want to sign because jesus" ? is it mopre like "we don't want to say anything definite about abortion in writing because we can't grok the consequences" ? [14:19]
mircea_popescu it half reads like "forms make baby jesus cry" tbh. [14:19]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Basically some group had a religious objection to a form (they were nuns) . They pretested the need to complete the form in court. The court said well, you don't need to do that form, but you can fill out this identical form we imagineered or produce your own identical form. (the form relating to some Obamacar Birth Control thing) [14:20]
mircea_popescu no i know the generalities. [14:20]
mircea_popescu but WHY did they protestg, what's being objected to exactly ? [14:20]
BingoBoingo Well, that they have to fill out a form to not cover birth control for their employees. [14:21]
BingoBoingo Basically there being a form at all seems to actually make Baby Jesus cry was their argument. [14:21]
BingoBoingo Not that they had to cover the birth control, but that there was a form. [14:22]
mircea_popescu and how's a court supposed to rule on that ? [14:22]
mircea_popescu they need the fucking rota. [14:22]
kakobrekla they checked for tears [14:22]
mircea_popescu lol [14:22]
mircea_popescu "sorry, no tears were found. case dismissed" [14:22]
kakobrekla yea [14:22]
mircea_popescu btw, i hear you should be hacked. [14:23]
mircea_popescu and the monyz distributed to charity [14:23]
kakobrekla hm? [14:23]
mircea_popescu on robinhoodtalk.org [14:23]
Duffer1 sherif mcpopescu [14:23]
kakobrekla first time i hear it [14:23]
Duffer1 of nottingham [14:23]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=431273.0 [14:23]
ozbot Ripped OFF by bitbet.us [14:23]
Duffer1 scrooge mcpopescu - L. Ron Popescu - now Sherif Popescu [14:24]
kakobrekla aha, derps herping about derp [14:24]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla nono. derps HERPING about derp. [14:24]
kakobrekla :p [14:24]
mircea_popescu isn't it sheriff ? [14:25]
mircea_popescu who stole my other f [14:25]
Duffer1 how dare you spellcheck me [14:25]
mircea_popescu you buncha commies. you redistributed it did you [14:25]
Duffer1 ha [14:25]
kakobrekla lmao [14:25]
mircea_popescu !b 18 [14:25]
assbot Last 18 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1575146/plain/) [14:25]
truffles sad display circle jerk [14:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.43 = 8.6 BTC [+] [14:27]
BingoBoingo I am sad to announce that I don't want to bet on this superbowl. When the most interesting player is the fucking underdog's cornerback... I'm out. [14:27]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo you know, i burned a lot of cycles on the subject of why the fuck sports bets are faring so poorly on bitbet. [14:28]
truffles betting on sports is like watching money leave pocket [14:28]
kakobrekla >Furthermore, notice that a winning bet of .011 returns less than the bet itself (despite its weight), if you even happen to get it. [14:28]
mircea_popescu the obvious explanation, and perhaps the likely one, is that bitbet just isn't particularly central in the betting space. [14:28]
kakobrekla LMAO [14:28]
BingoBoingo truffles: I'm net up on the past year [14:28]
kakobrekla "Hi, im a brick, i have opinions." [14:29]
truffles sample size 1 year [14:29]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Prolly bitbet isn lagging on sports because it is too good at finance [14:29]
mircea_popescu however, it may also be that SPORTS BETTING isn't central. or in other words : the focus on advertising, scandal and bullshit, as wel las changing social mores and expectations have pretty much killed that model. [14:29]
truffles lemme know in 3 or more [14:29]
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mircea_popescu nobody cares anymore about sports, and the bets continue sort-of by inertia, like investment in yahoo continues. [14:29]
Duffer1 MP or there's not enough sports book being made to attract a betting crowd [14:29]
mircea_popescu so in that theory, they will exist in old venues (like days ago someone mentioned old style phone service that's still continued . to the death of the captive customer) [14:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00437075 = 0.2185 BTC [+] {5} [14:30]
mircea_popescu but in new venues it ain't happening. [14:30]
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mircea_popescu Duffer1 nowhere ? [14:30]
BingoBoingo Well, of course it is inertia. It also pulls the sports bettors to more dangerous venues that offer lines on as many competitions as possible, as opposed to safe ole bitbet that only tries to offer profitable competitions [14:30]
BingoBoingo Basically Bitbet is too responsible to attract sports bettors. [14:31]
mircea_popescu so perhaps a correct model could be, "sports betting consists of people who lived in the 70s, had fun with bets in the 70s, continuing to do what they did then, where they did it then" [14:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.43099999 = 4.31 BTC [+] [14:31]
mircea_popescu if that's the case, a start-up hoping to get that market on a new model would be kinda doomed. the paying customer is too old to move and the young customer does not exist. [14:31]
BingoBoingo Prolly and nao where it interesects with bitcoin includes you kids who wish they were in the 70's so they could sync iPods on their PDP-11 [14:32]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo but there are plenty of insane bets on bitbet [14:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.43624848 = 8.725 BTC [+] {6} [14:32]
ThickAsThieves [07:25] you buncha commies. you redistributed it did you <<< There is no escape from decentralization, chaos is nature after all! [14:32]
mircea_popescu perhaps not the right kind of insane. [14:32]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Right, but I imagine most sports bettors never had the money to make a dent in the 2B difficulty bet. [14:32]
Duffer1 bets not being created doesn't necessarily mean lack of interest in betting with bitcoin, if there was a specific section dedicated to live odds sports book it just might attract more people [14:33]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15600 @ 0.00088522 = 13.8094 BTC [+] {2} [14:33]
mircea_popescu Duffer1 there's at least half a dozen diff sites that tried - and failed - to live on that model. [14:33]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: As far as football this year goes though, the NFL has had one on its most boring years in history. [14:33]
Duffer1 i wouldn't know, just a thought ^.^ [14:33]
mircea_popescu the problem is this : other than the intrinsic unfairness to the bettors of the line model, it also requires VERY highly skilled people working for the hgouse, and non stop. [14:33]
mircea_popescu you can't afford to pay for these without volume. [14:34]
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kakobrekla bah fuck you, now i replied. [14:34]
BingoBoingo Last year Ray Lewis was in the Superbowl for stabbin bitches. This year Richard Sherman is in for yelling. [14:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.4596874 = 7.355 BTC [+] {6} [14:34]
mircea_popescu if you don't pay for them, then you'll get raped. [14:34]
herbijudlestoids you dont think HFT bots can handle the job mircea_popescu? [14:34]
mircea_popescu herbijudlestoids on whose software ? [14:34]
BingoBoingo herbijudlestoids: They those bots have openings too. [14:34]
ThickAsThieves nobody cares anymore about sports, and the bets continue sort-of by inertia, like investment in yahoo continues. <<< maybe it's like the forum sports betting is just a buncha scammers and noobs alt-betting [14:35]
mircea_popescu hft bots aren't a magic amulet, like "bitcoin makes me anon so i can buy drugz" [14:35]
herbijudlestoids i guess ot make a good bot would require similar investment to having good people [14:35]
BingoBoingo HTF bots get owned by Slow penetrating bots [14:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [+] [14:35]
mircea_popescu it's a war race. [14:35]
herbijudlestoids good bot+infrastructure [14:35]
herbijudlestoids arms race? [14:35]
herbijudlestoids yea [14:35]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i have no idea what's going on, tbh. [14:35]
ThickAsThieves it's really way simpler an explanation [14:36]
ThickAsThieves you have no exposure to the sports betting audience [14:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.51416231 = 5.6558 BTC [+] {4} [14:36]
herbijudlestoids moral of the story: just like all other businesses, an appropriate level of investment is required to have a successful outcome [14:36]
BingoBoingo I mean the people who claim to bitcoin sportsbet seem to overlap with the BTC poker people [14:36]
ThickAsThieves they dont even own bitcoins [14:36]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves this is factual. the question of interest however, is if such an audience even exists, and other such things. [14:36]
truffles betting site but doesnt know market hmmm [14:37]
mircea_popescu truffles nobody knows the market. some people admit to it. [14:37]
herbijudlestoids ThickAsThieves: if you offered them a betting model that has a lower house commission, etc they might be very interested [14:37]
ThickAsThieves it's like trying to sell truffles at a Patriots game [14:37]
mircea_popescu herbijudlestoids what's the house comission on line betting normally ? 2-5% ? [14:37]
ThickAsThieves theyll be like eww mushrooms! [14:37]
herbijudlestoids yea about that [14:37]
truffles haha [14:37]
mircea_popescu bitbet does 1% [14:37]
herbijudlestoids but is there good game coverage and high liquidity? [14:38]
mircea_popescu the difference to your risk of ruin between 1 and 4% is HUGE [14:38]
herbijudlestoids yep [14:38]
mircea_popescu it has more liquidity than vegas and no coverage at all [14:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.00438319 = 0.2542 BTC [+] {4} [14:38]
mircea_popescu in spite of coverage being self-serve. [14:38]
herbijudlestoids so then i would posit its simply a matter of marketing [14:38]
mircea_popescu bitbet actually PAYS 100 dollars for every bet made, yet people don't make sports bets. [14:38]
herbijudlestoids did anyone allocate $500,000 or $1,000,000 to marketing? [14:38]
mircea_popescu it would seem so, but i have suspicions that it's simply a question of there not being a market. [14:39]
herbijudlestoids hmm [14:39]
ThickAsThieves yeah [14:39]
mircea_popescu which is a question that has to be resolved bfore i throw money at marketing people. [14:39]
chetty The federal agency charged with helping consumers make better financial decisions is facing questions about how it has managed its own money. [14:39]
mircea_popescu i have no doubt they can spend it. [14:39]
ThickAsThieves dont go marketing truffles to football fans [14:39]
ThickAsThieves it makes no sense [14:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00088532 = 11.9518 BTC [+] [14:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 90 @ 0.00438354 = 0.3945 BTC [+] {3} [14:39]
mircea_popescu ahahaha chetty that's gold [14:39]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves obviously more research is needed here. for one thing, how do we even know they're truffles. [14:39]
herbijudlestoids the other option is ramp the entry costs and target high net worth betters [14:40]
mircea_popescu just cause we think we're pretty cool ? [14:40]
herbijudlestoids offer the 1% rate as a high net worth perk [14:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.51677618 = 2.5839 BTC [+] [14:40]
mircea_popescu herbijudlestoids i would love to target high net work bettors, strictly to hear why they think it sucks. [14:40]
ThickAsThieves well what is the most popular form of sports betting, its that intrade shares shit right? [14:40]
mircea_popescu i don't have a book. anyone has/knows someone with a large old style book ? [14:40]
herbijudlestoids many moons ago i used to work as an ops guy for a large cable tv company [14:40]
BingoBoingo You know for someone who uses shady forum advertised sports books quite a bit... I prolly ought to look harder at who runs them. [14:40]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves intrade is ded. not sure if popular tbh, but definitely dead. [14:41]
herbijudlestoids and one of the security guards happened to be extremely well off, but he worked as a guard to keep the tax offic eoff his back [14:41]
mircea_popescu ha. [14:41]
herbijudlestoids he owned a couple of horses and was relatively well known with the sydney horse racing community [14:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14088 @ 0.00088811 = 12.5117 BTC [+] {2} [14:41]
herbijudlestoids owners, hedge fungs etc [14:41]
mircea_popescu so get him on assets. [14:41]
herbijudlestoids s/fungs/funds [14:41]
mircea_popescu funguses [14:41]
herbijudlestoids one of my friends has my old job, ill ask him if the dude still works there [14:41]
herbijudlestoids he *always* used to hassle me about making him an algo to arb the different online markets [14:42]
ThickAsThieves just buy a biz that already has sports penetration [14:42]
herbijudlestoids ^ [14:42]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves yes, but i can't do that while random fuckwits keep smoking pot and getting arrested. [14:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00438754 = 0.4388 BTC [+] {3} [14:42]
ThickAsThieves aww cmon [14:42]
mircea_popescu because i'd have to have a bank do it for me, and i'd have to impose they interface btc, which they don;'t wish to do etc. [14:42]
ThickAsThieves is that really you talking? [14:42]
mircea_popescu well, what ? [14:42]
mircea_popescu you want me to do an acquisition over irc ? [14:43]
ThickAsThieves lol [14:43]
mircea_popescu i'll need a bank, what. [14:43]
truffles fuckwits hmm [14:43]
herbijudlestoids fund some geeks in seattle to make the business [14:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 49 @ 0.00439999 = 0.2156 BTC [+] {2} [14:43]
mircea_popescu a start-up is not what we're discussing here. [14:43]
BingoBoingo I hear Seattle sports teams are cheap [14:43]
mircea_popescu i should leverage-buyout the horseshoe. [14:43]
ThickAsThieves ok new plan [14:43]
mircea_popescu then i'd have their book, go through the past 20 years, talk to everyone. [14:43]
ThickAsThieves hire the manager [14:43]
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mircea_popescu the manager is probably under a contract. [14:44]
ThickAsThieves that runs the successful sports biz [14:44]
BingoBoingo The Mariners might be 10K BTC this year and 1 K BTC next year [14:44]
ThickAsThieves lawyers [14:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 197 @ 0.00445469 = 0.8776 BTC [+] {7} [14:44]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves and anyway, who ? [14:44]
mircea_popescu kinda why i'm talking about it. who knows someone ? [14:44]
ThickAsThieves you know the imaginary hotshot pro i made up in my head [14:44]
mircea_popescu a ok. [14:44]
mircea_popescu we making a movie here or what. [14:45]
herbijudlestoids hmm lemme ask someone something [14:45]
mircea_popescu ask everyone everything. [14:45]
ThickAsThieves #1 google return I get is http://www.bovada.lv/ [14:45]
ThickAsThieves fwiw [14:45]
truffles oh look who doest know everything [14:45]
herbijudlestoids damn nvm [14:46]
BingoBoingo truffles: The things are these are things no one knows [14:46]
herbijudlestoids i thought i knew someone in online sports advertising but it was music and the business has been sold to VICE anyway [14:46]
ThickAsThieves sports bettings seems like such a chore, gawd [14:46]
mircea_popescu it is a fucking chore. [14:46]
mircea_popescu buncha old farts who think themselves cutting edge because they sorta-can read the email their granddaughter sends [14:46]
BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: Betting is a chore. I could not imagin the pain of running a venture. [14:46]
mircea_popescu except they miss about half the pics, like say the drunken shots of her getting shagged in front of the courthouse. [14:47]
ThickAsThieves nah sports is a whole other level of pain [14:47]
herbijudlestoids mircea_popescu: what about if instead of a bank [14:47]
herbijudlestoids you contacted one of the hedge funds that deals in bitcoins [14:47]
herbijudlestoids and asked them to do the accq? [14:47]
mircea_popescu the ones that failed to get listed on mpex and imagine they're into bitcoin ? [14:47]
mircea_popescu yeah, this sounds promising. and i'll have to do what, explain to them what they're doing wrong ? [14:48]
herbijudlestoids yeah, what do you care, you just need a funnel right? [14:48]
BingoBoingo herbijudlestoids: In BTC businesses with funnels die. [14:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.00468746 = 0.1125 BTC [+] {5} [14:48]
mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/Namecheap/status/428158030015107072 << people always know better. [14:48]
ozbot Twitter / Namecheap: @Mircea_Popescu LOL, they're ... [14:48]
herbijudlestoids i saw on linkedin there was at least one HF looking to hire BTC trader, so someone must be looking to build their book [14:48]
herbijudlestoids just a suggestion [14:48]
ThickAsThieves maybe you are barking up the wrongs tree [14:48]
mircea_popescu maybe so. [14:49]
ThickAsThieves why try to be something youre not [14:49]
ThickAsThieves exploit something you can destroy at instead [14:49]
mircea_popescu because i don't wish to destroy, i wish to exist. bitcoin is essential to this, and so here i am doing things i don't particularly wish to do on their own, [14:50]
mircea_popescu so that this thing may ruin the faces and lives of people i don't like. [14:50]
herbijudlestoids truly a nobler cause could not be undertaken [14:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.00479789 = 0.1199 BTC [+] {2} [14:50]
ThickAsThieves maybe bitbet can get into some kind of futures offerings [14:50]
mircea_popescu i guess. anyway. [14:50]
mircea_popescu somewhere there's an old greaseball who knows all the angles of line betting. [14:50]
Duffer1 TaT like MPEx? hehe [14:51]
mircea_popescu there, de niro's character in casino. that guy. [14:51]
mircea_popescu i want that guy! [14:51]
Duffer1 you'll need a joe peschi though too [14:51]
ThickAsThieves but mpex is not bitbet [14:51]
mircea_popescu no, that's the beauty of it. i won't need a joe pesci. [14:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.51728865 = 10.3458 BTC [+] {4} [14:51]
mircea_popescu the entire rest of bloodsuckers is going away. i just need the one guy. [14:51]
mircea_popescu that's exactly the engine of this entire thing. [14:52]
mircea_popescu firing all those people. [14:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.526675 = 2.1067 BTC [+] {2} [14:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 387 @ 0.00484029 = 1.8732 BTC [+] {13} [14:52]
ThickAsThieves lol, the forum whined so hard they got Friedcat to finally comment [14:53]
ThickAsThieves poor form [14:53]
herbijudlestoids link [14:53]
ThickAsThieves https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.msg4816778#msg4816778 [14:53]
ozbot ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It [14:53]
ThickAsThieves i've begun to hate that title [14:54]
mircea_popescu in fairness the fallout is a lot less than i imagined this summer. [14:54]
ThickAsThieves "inventing" starting to feel kike "making it up" [14:54]
ThickAsThieves like* [14:54]
BingoBoingo As far as cover every even sports betting people go https://bitbook.biz/ has been reliable, but I have no idea if they are running fractional reserve off of some dude who deposited a few hundred BTC last spring and then went into a coma. I just don't trust line sites much after http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/01/05/a-descent-into-scam-bitcoinsports-eu/ [14:54]
mircea_popescu am shares shed a degree of magnitude, nobody's particularly fazed. [14:54]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 330 @ 0.00499945 = 1.6498 BTC [+] {10} [14:54]
mircea_popescu maybe people are better at pricing the future than given credit for. [14:54]
ThickAsThieves "mass delivery date is still March" [14:55]
BingoBoingo Oh, Halep plays in 2 hours [14:55]
ThickAsThieves March is a date? [14:55]
mircea_popescu anyway, anyone here with a salesman's slick and within distance of vegas ? [14:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 126 @ 0.00499995 = 0.63 BTC [+] {3} [14:55]
ThickAsThieves salesman in vegas? that's another breed [14:55]
mircea_popescu 1-200 miles, whatever one drives comfortably. [14:56]
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herbijudlestoids what are you after? someone who can lay bets off into the casinos? [14:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7213 @ 0.00089423 = 6.4501 BTC [+] {2} [14:56]
herbijudlestoids or bookies or whatever [14:56]
mircea_popescu no, someone who can go to each bookie, take their main line man out to lunch, hussle him to talk to me. [14:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5637 @ 0.00089478 = 5.0439 BTC [+] [14:57]
mircea_popescu people are more a resource than cash, yet people steal cash way more often than people. [14:58]
mircea_popescu start stealing people. [14:58]
truffles make them an offer they cant refuse? [14:58]
ThickAsThieves sounds kinda fun, if I were 24 and single [14:58]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves indeed. bitcoin is first and foremost fun. [14:58]
mircea_popescu truffles no, make them an effort they certainly can't refuse, but won't. [14:58]
mircea_popescu certainly can* [14:58]
ThickAsThieves Specification [14:58]
ThickAsThieves Process node: 40nm [14:58]
ThickAsThieves Package type: QFN64 8mmx8mm (with another option of QFN64 7mmx7mm possible) [14:58]
ThickAsThieves I/O: Standard SPI protocol with clk, in, out and cs. [14:58]
ThickAsThieves Rated Hashrate: 12.8GHash/s per chip, with a wide range of overclock/downclock options [14:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00499999 = 0.4 BTC [+] {2} [14:58]
ThickAsThieves Rated Voltage: 0.72V, recommended voltage range is 0.55V-1V [14:58]
ThickAsThieves Power Consumption: 0.2J/GHash low voltage, 0.35J/GHash rated voltage [14:58]
ThickAsThieves Price range [14:59]
ThickAsThieves 0.49$/G-0.99$/G, depending on order size and delivery speed of choice. [14:59]
truffles if they knew who u were would they want to work for u :D [14:59]
mircea_popescu 4watt chips ? [14:59]
truffles i certainly wouldnt [14:59]
mircea_popescu lol. do you even work ? [14:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 1495 @ 0.00082053 = 1.2267 BTC [-] {2} [14:59]
truffles irrelevant [14:59]
BingoBoingo I'm about 10x the recommended distance. [14:59]
jcpham does it mine the litecoins though [15:00]
mircea_popescu hahaha. seriously, do you have any employment truffles ? [15:00]
ThickAsThieves truffles is on disability [15:00]
truffles :( [15:00]
mircea_popescu so he wouldn't work for me because whatever, nor for anyone else for entirely different reasons. [15:00]
ThickAsThieves (guessing) [15:00]
BingoBoingo I lack the salesman slick though [15:00]
mircea_popescu that settls that i guess. [15:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10870 @ 0.00088529 = 9.6231 BTC [-] [15:00]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo so practice. [15:01]
mircea_popescu get a friend, make pitches each day, send me one a week, i'll tell you when you're good for vegas. [15:01]
ThickAsThieves if youre american, youve been in training for sales your whole life [15:01]
BingoBoingo I guess I'll start practicing this weekend. [15:01]
mircea_popescu even if you never get good enough for vegas, it'll help your love life. [15:01]
mircea_popescu also ThickAsThieves has a point. [15:02]
kakobrekla BingoBoingo, that comment from happy wheels is a spam, you do know that rite? [15:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 24 @ 0.00499999 = 0.12 BTC [+] {2} [15:02]
BingoBoingo kakobrekla: Was it? I just thought they had bad taste in links [15:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.56376336 = 16.9129 BTC [+] {7} [15:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.005 = 0.15 BTC [+] [15:03]
ThickAsThieves the gem crowd is engorged right now [15:04]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I guess I'll practice this salesmanship thing. Shame I couldn't be practicing it at this new work circus. I mean seriously public speaking and reading shit verbatim? [15:04]
ThickAsThieves they love them some friedcat posts [15:04]
kakobrekla ;;google "You really make it seem so easy with your presentation but I find this matter to be actually something which I think I would never understand." [15:04]
gribble Anchor Audio BLOG: ; The Logic of Stupid Poor People | tressiemc: ; Adding MLS on Your Website - Beyond Creative: [15:04]
kakobrekla meh, well, you get the point. [15:04]
kakobrekla here http://www.google.com/search?&q="You+really+make+it+seem+so+easy+with+your+presentation+but+I+find+this+matter+to+be+actually+something+which+I+think+I+would+never+understand." [15:05]
ThickAsThieves http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/29/5356498/eve-online-battle-sees-200000-dollars-worth-of-spaceships-destroyed [15:05]
ozbot Spaceships worth more than $200,000 destroyed in biggest virtual space battle ever | The Verge [15:05]
ThickAsThieves did you supply the guns mp? [15:05]
BingoBoingo ThickAsThieves: If I still was active on Eve the best I could have supplied for that would have been a gnat like thing full of viscious, still more gnat like things. [15:06]
herbijudlestoids im a professional spruiker but i already got a job i like and also much further away from vegas :P [15:06]
kakobrekla is this how eulora is going to go down? "a village ripped in Eulora, 2000 BTC btc carriages destroyed and horses burned" [15:07]
Duffer1 that would be amazing [15:07]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [15:07]
herbijudlestoids ThickAsThieves: i read about that on slashdot, some interesting comments, some people put the value at half or less, a lot of people mentioned how reading about EVE battles is better than the battles :P [15:08]
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herbijudlestoids i gotta admit the description of the battle was quite interesting for someone who has never played the game [15:08]
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Duffer1 i "watched" a live stream of the battle on twitch.tv [15:08]
BingoBoingo I'm starting to get kind of interesting in this idea of poaching talent from places that aren't East St Louis. [15:09]
herbijudlestoids actually thats an idea i had while reading aboutthe battle, game servers people can rent in BTC [15:09]
Duffer1 it looked like a space themed desktop background rather than a game [15:09]
herbijudlestoids lol [15:10]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.60490001 = 2.4196 BTC [+] {3} [15:13]
herbijudlestoids does anyone know who runs freebitco.in? [15:13]
herbijudlestoids seems unlike other bitcoin faucets in that it really just is a faucet [15:13]
herbijudlestoids all the others you need to click an ad or watch a video or whatever [15:13]
herbijudlestoids also i like the simple website [15:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 624 @ 0.00502002 = 3.1325 BTC [+] {6} [15:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 41 @ 0.6315351 = 25.8929 BTC [+] {12} [15:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 900 @ 0.00046001 = 0.414 BTC [+] {3} [15:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 80 @ 0.00519874 = 0.4159 BTC [+] {4} [15:15]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 217 @ 0.00545822 = 1.1844 BTC [+] {12} [15:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 33 @ 0.00568028 = 0.1874 BTC [+] {8} [15:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 62 @ 0.04484043 = 2.7801 BTC [-] {11} [15:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 155 @ 0.00589 = 0.913 BTC [+] {2} [15:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.6498 = 2.5992 BTC [+] {2} [15:18]
herbijudlestoids http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortune_%28Unix%29 [15:18]
ozbot fortune (Unix) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [15:18]
herbijudlestoids interesting errata [15:18]
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jimmyjazz yo [15:18]
kakobrekla hi [15:18]
jimmyjazz was up [15:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.63980002 BTC [-] [15:19]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00088948 = 10.0956 BTC [+] [15:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04899998 = 0.196 BTC [+] [15:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.63980002 = 4.4786 BTC [-] [15:22]
kakobrekla >As you saw I sent an email to all FIMB holders regarding repayment. I plan on repaying 50% now and the rest as my personal mining income comes in. [15:22]
kakobrekla haha [15:22]
mircea_popescu what's fimb even [15:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.6575 = 3.945 BTC [+] {2} [15:25]
kakobrekla garrets second or third scam [15:25]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves i mostly supply the fuel the stations run on [15:25]
mircea_popescu for one of the species (the one everyone plays) [15:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.66710002 = 6.671 BTC [+] {2} [15:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 230 @ 0.00588852 = 1.3544 BTC [-] {3} [15:26]
mircea_popescu herbijudlestoids it's insanely boring, really. [15:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.04899999 = 0.735 BTC [+] [15:27]
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herbijudlestoids mircea_popescu: what is, sorry? [15:28]
mircea_popescu eve [15:28]
herbijudlestoids ah right [15:28]
mircea_popescu i mean if you're into trading then ok, you got a penny stock market. [15:28]
herbijudlestoids im too busy thinking of ideas and then not implementing them because theyre not perfect [15:28]
mircea_popescu otherwise it's more like... yea, what Duffer1 [15:28]
mircea_popescu said [15:28]
herbijudlestoids nah, i trade on the regular markets :) [15:28]
herbijudlestoids i have a whole farm of algos, waiting for vols to die down on bitcoin before i try them out there [15:29]
herbijudlestoids penny stocks not my bag [15:29]
herbijudlestoids send me the EOD data for MPOE and i will backtest it against one of the simpler ones [15:30]
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herbijudlestoids you sould send a couple of BTC to the guy who writes quantmod for R to add feed support for MPEX :D [15:31]
kakobrekla lol, the ideas. [15:31]
mircea_popescu there's pympex, why should i support the proprietary pastures of the obsolete world ? [15:32]
mircea_popescu let them move over. [15:32]
* herbijudlestoids looks [15:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.67389999 = 6.739 BTC [+] {3} [15:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 492 @ 0.00588943 = 2.8976 BTC [+] {3} [15:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 59 @ 0.049 = 2.891 BTC [+] [15:33]
herbijudlestoids hmm ok so this is for trading? im talking about data feed for quantitative analysis...timeseries of the price of the contracts/assets [15:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.67475 = 5.398 BTC [+] {2} [15:34]
herbijudlestoids quantmod has a function getSymbols() so i can pull say, 2000 bars of EOD data for an ETF and run various analysis against it [15:34]
herbijudlestoids supports yahoo finance, mysql backend, etc...im just suggesting fund the dev to add support so that it can pull the price feed off mpex with getSymbols too [15:34]
mircea_popescu afaik there's some people offering the full history, including kako [15:35]
mircea_popescu otherwise you can just query mpex and form your own history. [15:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00289899 = 0.2899 BTC [+] {2} [15:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00088529 = 15.0499 BTC [-] [15:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 71 @ 0.00596764 = 0.4237 BTC [+] {5} [15:35]
herbijudlestoids kakobrekla: can haz data pls? [15:36]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00613504 = 0.6135 BTC [+] {7} [15:36]
kakobrekla http://bitcoin-assets.com/mpex-socket/ [15:36]
ozbot MPEX Socket | #bitcoin-assets [15:36]
herbijudlestoids anyone doing analysis on this timeseries already? [15:37]
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mircea_popescu what was mike's blog [15:37]
herbijudlestoids so but i need a MPex login for this? [15:37]
mircea_popescu http://www.btcalpha.com/blog/2014/when-does-bitbet-money-come-in/ [15:38]
ozbot When Does BitBet Money Come In? - Btc Alpha [15:38]
nubbins` "Of further note, if vegas paid out the way this Matic "Tic, hence bloodsucker" guy pays out, they'd be entirely shutdown in less than 24 hours." [15:39]
nubbins` Matic Pitiscu [15:39]
kakobrekla tic, sounds like tits but means dick. [15:39]
mircea_popescu course matic is not read like mah tick but like mytits [15:40]
kakobrekla yea [15:40]
kakobrekla mahtitis [15:40]
mircea_popescu cause he's such a boob :D [15:40]
kakobrekla eh mahtits [15:40]
herbijudlestoids i guess no response means im a retard [15:40]
mircea_popescu herbijudlestoids you don't need a mpex acct to read the feed im sure. [15:40]
mircea_popescu and a few people are doing more or less something with the data, but there's always room for more [15:41]
mircea_popescu an' merrier. [15:41]
mircea_popescu global warming hits florida : schools closed down because of the carbon footprint everywhere. [15:42]
mircea_popescu personally, i blame dub. [15:42]
herbijudlestoids ah it says contact kakobrekla for username [15:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2500 @ 0.00008142 = 0.2036 BTC [-] {13} [15:42]
herbijudlestoids can haz? [15:42]
kakobrekla yes, this reading thing, very powerful stuff [15:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 232 @ 0.00615889 = 1.4289 BTC [+] {2} [15:43]
kakobrekla its 1 btc per year iirc [15:43]
nubbins` why, that's only pennies per hour! [15:44]
kakobrekla indeed [15:44]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 1*infinity / 365*24*3600 [15:44]
gribble Error: 'infinity' is not a defined function. [15:44]
mircea_popescu shit. [15:44]
kakobrekla lol [15:44]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 1*(all the monyz in the world) / 365*24*3600 [15:45]
gribble Error: invalid syntax (, line 1) [15:45]
mircea_popescu gribble is not so smart. [15:45]
herbijudlestoids i dont want a subscription to the feed, i can append to it manually as necessary but i just wanted a one off dump of the existing EOD data [15:46]
kakobrekla i want icecream and b lowjob [15:46]
herbijudlestoids if its too hard, nw, just a thought that popped in my head then my plan was always to use the algos on BTCUSD in the future :) [15:46]
truffles some ppl want free help but they dont want to give free help [15:46]
herbijudlestoids for now they are hard at work on regular markets [15:47]
mircea_popescu no rush, rly. [15:47]
herbijudlestoids truffles: i happen to think free data is useful and democratising, allowing people like me to do today what was only in the purview of hedge funds and instos just 10y ago [15:48]
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AleksG Hello, Mr. Mircea Popescu. I wrote to you about cryptography. I wrote to you about cryptography. Here you can download a video presentation of the world's absolute cryptographic protection http://rmxcrypt.com/ [15:48]
mircea_popescu finance and democracy don't mix. [15:48]
herbijudlestoids but whatevs, i go where the data and liquidity is, plenty of it around [15:48]
mircea_popescu hello AleksG. got a transcript ? [15:48]
truffles greed and democracy wont mix [15:49]
mircea_popescu "greed" is a meaningless symbol only defined in your own system. it's about as important as flogiston, generally. [15:50]
truffles lol [15:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.049 = 0.147 BTC [+] [15:50]
AleksG Other information I can send you by email [15:51]
mircea_popescu as presented your statement readily reduces to "that which people do which isn't reducible to our own idiocy and our own idiocy don't mix", which further reduces to nonA is disjunct from A. which it is. whoop. [15:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00285 = 0.285 BTC [-] [15:52]
truffles guess u want pat on the back for missing the point [15:52]
mircea_popescu no, i mostly use you as a cockpuppet to illustrate the concepts involved for the general readership. [15:53]
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truffles sure take 1 or 2 examples to make a point that is unsupported then call it fact right [15:53]
mircea_popescu i took an example ?! which / [15:54]
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herbijudlestoids shit guys [15:55]
herbijudlestoids dont worry about it [15:55]
truffles this is an ongoing argument [15:55]
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herbijudlestoids asking for free data, bad idea, continue with the discussion about vegas or eve or whatever [15:55]
mircea_popescu herbijudlestoids i think we long forgot about that lol [15:56]
truffles this is about arguing with a wall [15:56]
mircea_popescu but srsly, the data is free, query mpex, get the jsons, store them, in a week or w/e you have your sample. [15:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.00088758 = 22.1007 BTC [+] [15:56]
mircea_popescu if you can't wait a week or w/e it takes pay someone who already did it, if you don't like paying wait, whatevs. [15:56]
herbijudlestoids ok, i will add it to my TODO, 1am here, almost bed [15:57]
herbijudlestoids nah i can wait setup a VM in the dc to wait for me [15:57]
mircea_popescu exactly. [15:57]
kakobrekla you can also grep logs or chan [15:59]
herbijudlestoids this is trueee [15:59]
kakobrekla the data on the socket is from late 2012, thats the point. [15:59]
truffles herbijudlestoids do ulive in america? [16:00]
herbijudlestoids no aus [16:00]
truffles ok [16:00]
truffles u said that yesterday ! [16:00]
truffles or days ago .. [16:01]
herbijudlestoids it was true yesterday? [16:01]
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truffles nah my unscientific poll that i will randomly keep [16:01]
herbijudlestoids vexual is from aus, he lives near a friend of mine and asked me if that friend accepted bitcoin for his jewellery so i convinced him to get a bitpay acct and he did [16:02]
herbijudlestoids if anyone sees vexual tell him so pls :P [16:02]
mircea_popescu vexual buying joolry now ? [16:02]
herbijudlestoids http://www.larridinya.com/ [16:02]
ozbot Larridinya Carvings Jade and Bone [16:02]
nubbins` herbijudlestoids, try ;;later tell vexual hey bru i have something to tell you [16:02]
truffles u can do the command [16:02]
truffles slow pony [16:02]
mircea_popescu is she hawt ? [16:02]
herbijudlestoids its a he [16:02]
mircea_popescu is he hawt ? [16:03]
herbijudlestoids ;;later vexual yo my mates store is accepting BTC now [16:03]
gribble Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "vexual" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin. [16:03]
herbijudlestoids ;;later tell vexual yo my mates store is accepting BTC now [16:03]
gribble The operation succeeded. [16:03]
truffles forget the tell [16:03]
herbijudlestoids i am a spammy cunt, sorry [16:03]
mircea_popescu actually these aren't awful. http://www.larridinya.com/wp-content/uploads/lilly-flower-carving2-e1374372458397-700x525.jpg [16:03]
herbijudlestoids yes, i know [16:03]
herbijudlestoids he is hawt i guess, very smart guy, chemist and biologist who lives in the paradiseyiest bit of aus [16:03]
truffles sounds hot [16:04]
herbijudlestoids equatorial [16:04]
nubbins` i liked australia more when i knew less about it [16:04]
herbijudlestoids nubbins`: irukandji [16:04]
mircea_popescu the best thing about postmodernism is just how nicely varied people are these days. [16:04]
truffles jewelry i might actually wear :D [16:04]
BingoBoingo The best thing Australia probably produced was this dud http://www.27bslash6.com [16:05]
herbijudlestoids i told him to get a bitpay account and bitcoin cunts would support him just for accepting bitcoin [16:05]
BingoBoingo *dude [16:05]
herbijudlestoids dont let me down, bitcoin cunts [16:05]
mircea_popescu he's not australian, he's a brit neh ? [16:05]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Pretty sure he talks about being an Aussie [16:05]
mircea_popescu hm [16:05]
herbijudlestoids hes aus [16:06]
truffles the one on bottom right reminds me of body part hmm [16:06]
herbijudlestoids http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Thorne_%28writer%29 [16:06]
ozbot David Thorne (writer) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [16:06]
BingoBoingo http://www.27bslash6.com/halogen.html [16:06]
ozbot "I cant help it if some of the light goes across the road. Put something up in your window." [16:06]
truffles i dont like the shapes though... [16:06]
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ThickAsThieves i like some of them, but he's only actually selling two [16:07]
herbijudlestoids BingoBoingo: the other night you and vexual convinced me to get a WoT account which i dutifully did. i think you were a little drunk. why did i do that? [16:07]
AleksG Mircea Popescu, I gotta go, I'm waiting for a letter from you on agclear.energy@gmail.com [16:07]
AleksG Keep in mind that this system will make electronic currency Bitcoin absolutely secure [16:07]
ThickAsThieves keep that in mind mircea [16:07]
BingoBoingo herbijudlestoids: I was indeed very drunk. A little drunk is what I am nao that I am contemplating bedtime. [16:07]
herbijudlestoids secure BTC! [16:07]
BingoBoingo herbijudlestoids: As to why you got the WoT account. Read moar? [16:08]
herbijudlestoids BingoBoingo: i stayed on for ages trying to rate you 10, but it kept telling me i needed rating first :( [16:08]
truffles ofc mp likes the lilly flower [16:08]
herbijudlestoids i was just on there, hoping waiting that you would rate me [16:08]
mircea_popescu so weird. [16:08]
truffles that looks like a body part [16:08]
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BingoBoingo herbijudlestoids: Why was I rating you? [16:08]
Duffer1 why do i get the feeling that guy took a fat shit in your inbox .. [16:09]
herbijudlestoids no, you werent! [16:09]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust herbijudlestoids [16:09]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user herbijudlestoids: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=herbijudlestoids | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=herbijudlestoids | Rated since: never [16:09]
mircea_popescu they did that so in case i go this it may one day not show zeroes [16:09]
herbijudlestoids ThickAsThieves: he mentioned to me that he is putting a bunch up soon [16:09]
BingoBoingo herbijudlestoids: I mean what would my reason for rating you have been. DId you sharpie in the pooper or something? [16:09]
herbijudlestoids HAHA [16:09]
herbijudlestoids no i told you, they dont have sharpies here [16:09]
BingoBoingo Some other brand of laundry marker? [16:10]
mircea_popescu Duffer1 nah, something off twitter. [16:10]
herbijudlestoids you said sharpie [16:10]
mircea_popescu bluntie [16:10]
Duffer1 ah [16:10]
mircea_popescu http://www.27bslash6.com/brochure.html this shit should be mandatory reading for forum ceoppets. [16:10]
ozbot "Dropshadows lift the type off the page as if they are 3D. You probably don't even know how to do th [16:10]
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herbijudlestoids mueslicoin [16:12]
herbijudlestoids hmm, nope [16:12]
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herbijudlestoids BingoBoingo: where u at? if youre considering bed either must be close by to me or strange sleep patterns [16:13]
BingoBoingo herbijudlestoids: The later. [16:14]
truffles ayahuasca vine looks nice [16:14]
truffles http://www.larridinya.com/#ayahuasca-vine [16:14]
ozbot Larridinya Carvings Jade and Bone [16:14]
mircea_popescu he only sleeps when he runs out of hootch [16:14]
BingoBoingo !b1 [16:14]
herbijudlestoids ethanolcoin [16:14]
herbijudlestoids hmmm...nope [16:14]
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herbijudlestoids a serious alcoholic should own a still ;) [16:17]
ThickAsThieves "it just needs to be more branded. If you add more brand without changing the design" [16:17]
ThickAsThieves it hurts, mommy [16:17]
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mircea_popescu herbijudlestoids he does. [16:17]
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mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves it gets way better. "They're not hidden, they're on a shelf. Obviously you're going to say my design isn't very good so you can justify charging to redesign it. Everyone who has seen the current brochure has said it is amazing. Ive got a degree in fine arts and I've done an advanced course in Adobe. I probably know more indesign than you do. Art is subjective. I branded it to appeal to our customers, the [16:18]
mircea_popescu y don't want modern looking things." [16:18]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [16:18]
mircea_popescu truly. [16:18]
ThickAsThieves this is why i quit the biz [16:19]
ThickAsThieves it's like that, well, every day [16:19]
herbijudlestoids and also because the economic profit of designing websites went down significantly? [16:19]
mircea_popescu everyone copes in his own way. apparently there's a huge premium the internet puts on coping by insulting and publicly humiliating the stupid [16:19]
ThickAsThieves you can make plenty designing websites [16:19]
ThickAsThieves if you are a masochist [16:19]
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ThickAsThieves but i did more overall branding work [16:20]
herbijudlestoids needs moar brand yo [16:20]
ThickAsThieves the need to educate your customers is such a burden [16:20]
mircea_popescu for some odd reason in romania "brand" denotes the thick of one's arm [16:21]
herbijudlestoids thats essentially the technology premium toh [16:21]
ThickAsThieves particularly in that you are teaching them something they REALLY dont want to believe [16:21]
herbijudlestoids s/toh/tho [16:21]
mircea_popescu so that whole discussion is extra funny to me [16:21]
BingoBoingo herbijudlestoids: No need to own a still. Time spent operating a hypothical or alleged still could be better spent on other ventures. [16:21]
herbijudlestoids i work in large scale IaaS and its the same, you gotta educate everyone [16:21]
ThickAsThieves it gets extra fucked up too, [16:21]
ThickAsThieves in that they are soo persistent [16:22]
ThickAsThieves you start to wonder if they are right [16:22]
ThickAsThieves and whether the whole thing is a joke [16:22]
ThickAsThieves (it kinda is) [16:22]
herbijudlestoids justuwait, the next gen kiddies will know all our secrets by the time theyre 12 and work for minimum wage to do the same thing [16:22]
mircea_popescu this is starting to sound a little too much like popular bitcoin finance. [16:22]
mircea_popescu herbijudlestoids what rattles me is this : how can you sit there and propose democracy as anything but a horror, with this experience ? [16:23]
ThickAsThieves i also began to feel guilty manipulating customers to not shoot themselves [16:23]
herbijudlestoids mircea_popescu: i think there is a lot to be said for systems with high friction [16:23]
BingoBoingo Didn't even have to read Plato [16:23]
mircea_popescu why would you want more democracy at all, or any democracy whatsoever in anything you care about at all ? [16:23]
ThickAsThieves you dont [16:23]
mircea_popescu well i don't. [16:23]
ThickAsThieves thats the big joke in entering the graphic design field [16:24]
ThickAsThieves kids get into it to express their talent [16:24]
mircea_popescu god forbid they start making democracy steak. [16:24]
herbijudlestoids complex systems "complicate away" friction and make the system less robust [16:24]
herbijudlestoids depart from equilibrium [16:24]
ThickAsThieves but that job is all about doing what everyone else ssays [16:24]
herbijudlestoids simple systems are robust and do not depart from equilibrium [16:24]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves this is a good point actualy. [16:24]
herbijudlestoids easiest way to ensure robustness is friction [16:24]
mircea_popescu herbijudlestoids so make them simple rather than open. [16:24]
ThickAsThieves then, [16:25]
ThickAsThieves even if you make it, to be, say, a Creative Director [16:25]
ThickAsThieves you learn that all your designers hate you [16:25]
ThickAsThieves for trying to finaly get your way [16:25]
lippoper .bait to save the day [16:25]
ozbot http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2l566VzXH1r21xm5o1_500.jpg [16:25]
mircea_popescu this is why you make your designers work nude and spank them occasionally. [16:25]
mircea_popescu then they still hate you but a) you're having fun and b) they also love you. [16:25]
ThickAsThieves well [16:26]
ThickAsThieves even when you do get one [16:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.6345 BTC [+] [16:26]
ThickAsThieves properly obedient [16:26]
mircea_popescu that was the lousiest bait ever. [16:26]
mircea_popescu ozbot you're fired. [16:26]
ThickAsThieves they leave after a year or two [16:26]
mircea_popescu why would they leave ?! [16:26]
ThickAsThieves grass is greener [16:26]
ThickAsThieves careers [16:27]
ThickAsThieves etc [16:27]
mircea_popescu how could grass be greener ? [16:27]
herbijudlestoids because as it turns out, not *all* jobs are about doing what everyone else says and if youve got talent you can command those jobs [16:27]
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mircea_popescu if you don't have the greenest grass wtf are you doing [16:27]
ThickAsThieves i had one girl that left to go work with all girls [16:27]
lippoper agreed. [16:27]
ThickAsThieves i offered to pat more [16:27]
ThickAsThieves pay* [16:27]
lippoper ozbot give us better [16:27]
lippoper .bait [16:27]
ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m089dn2sjd1qelzeao1_500.jpg [16:27]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves you should have hired the whole stable. [16:28]
ThickAsThieves she said "my boyfriend told me not to accepts" [16:28]
ThickAsThieves accept* [16:28]
lippoper ok you're truly fired [16:28]
mircea_popescu hahahaha [16:28]
lippoper that's not even sexy [16:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 105 @ 0.00615821 = 0.6466 BTC [-] {2} [16:28]
lippoper .bait me [16:28]
ozbot http://31.media.tumblr.com/8ff0f1e4337870000147b8513470b626/tumblr_mvabis3yck1racc9so1_400.jpg [16:28]
mircea_popescu http://31.media.tumblr.com/0311a40c4d0829aa39b18a441eba33c5/tumblr_mj4kfn3AuB1ru15g3o1_500.jpg [16:28]
* davout disbables pictures previews... [16:28]
mircea_popescu that's a good safety measure anywya. [16:28]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves you should have paid her to dump her bf. [16:29]
davout let's test it [16:29]
davout .bait [16:29]
ozbot http://24.media.tumblr.com/495804dd3b9f8cc816518e0564b0aa6b/tumblr_mu3jh5GjSD1r600xqo1_500.png [16:29]
ThickAsThieves well remember, she probably harbored hate for me by then [16:29]
davout yay, assets became SFW again [16:29]
herbijudlestoids mircea_popescu: maybe democracy isnt what i mean. i want more information to be freely available so those who are interested in it can use it to make informed decisions. to "level the playing field" [16:29]
ThickAsThieves all my programmers seemed to have insecurity issues [16:30]
ThickAsThieves or drinking problems [16:30]
herbijudlestoids for example, i have capital [16:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.6345 = 2.538 BTC [+] [16:30]
ThickAsThieves good help is hard to find i guess [16:30]
herbijudlestoids but if i cant efficiently allocate it then i wont allocate it to anything but cash and gold since im risk averse [16:30]
mircea_popescu herbijudlestoids there's a subtle point involved here : back when information cost money you had a bunch of ignoramuses clearly labeled as such and lots of educated people. [16:30]
mircea_popescu in the wake of wikipedia you have strictly ignoramuses with delusions of education [16:30]
herbijudlestoids really? [16:30]
mircea_popescu and a few old people left over. once they die that's it. [16:30]
asciilifeform anybody catch this: [16:30]
asciilifeform http://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelpeck/2014/01/27/predator-drone-sends-north-dakota-man-to-jail/ [16:30]
ozbot Predator Drone Sends North Dakota Man to Jail - Forbes [16:30]
herbijudlestoids so economists used to be better at predicting the economy and now they suck? [16:30]
herbijudlestoids or economists have always sucked at predicting the economy and now we know it [16:31]
ThickAsThieves predicting, lol [16:31]
herbijudlestoids excuse my colloquialism [16:31]
mircea_popescu herbijudlestoids if you take the whole predictive discourse of economy in 1913 and compare to 2013 [16:31]
herbijudlestoids forecast [16:31]
mircea_popescu you will find a marked decline in the average quality. [16:31]
davout wouldn't "forecasting" be a better match? [16:31]
mircea_popescu this is BECAUSE a democratic view to specialist fields is harmful for everyone involved : [16:32]
mircea_popescu the idiots, the professionals, society at large. [16:32]
herbijudlestoids mircea_popescu: as someone who actually sits on SSRN in his free time reading research old and new i kind of disagree [16:32]
mircea_popescu well perhaps my view is wrong. [16:32]
mircea_popescu maybe someone takes the time to settle this. [16:32]
herbijudlestoids i dunno about your view but i am just saying predictive discourse was worse in 1913 than now [16:32]
mircea_popescu tho it's a huge task, you can't even read all the deluge of today [16:33]
BingoBoingo herbijudlestoids: Maybe subscribe to some more interesting stuff than SSRN [16:33]
mircea_popescu herbijudlestoids worse, in what measure ? [16:33]
ThickAsThieves is it really a prediction if it was the plan all along? [16:33]
herbijudlestoids in resolution, accuracy, understanding, etc [16:33]
mircea_popescu i strictly mean, average quality went down, in the sense the understanding displayed dwindled. not in the sense better predictions were done [16:33]
herbijudlestoids BingoBoingo: plenty of interesting stuff from hedge funds and instos goes up there as working papers daily ;) [16:34]
mircea_popescu (the reason you'll never have better predictions is modelled in http://trilema.com/2012/anonimity-or-the-urban-versus-rural-dispute/ [16:34]
mircea_popescu the part dealing with why technology can't help the police) [16:34]
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ThickAsThieves "OK guys, everyone processed these stellar news? Let's be optimistic that the driest patch is over, esp. communications-wise. Keep in mind though, the dividends won't rise until April and there still may be weeks of silence where friedcat fixes the last problems" [16:35]
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ThickAsThieves meanwhile http://bitbet.us/bet/740/may-i-suggest-9b-difficulty/ [16:36]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform kinda not the first, not the last neh ? [16:36]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: IANAL, but this tidbit seems to signal the final, complete death of the 19th century u.s. law known as 'posse comitatus act' [16:38]
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mircea_popescu that it may be. [16:38]
mircea_popescu the notion that the imperial household is in any way limited wasn't doing too well over there anyway. [16:39]
herbijudlestoids any chance of having assbot broadcasting in another chan with mode +q set so the logger i setup only stores the orders? [16:41]
mircea_popescu was it #bitcoin-assets-trades ? [16:41]
nubbins` yes [16:41]
nubbins` had to check [16:41]
herbijudlestoids sweet [16:41]
herbijudlestoids thx [16:41]
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herbijudlestoids i /whois'd assbot before asking but it didnt show up [16:42]
nubbins` probably +s [16:42]
mircea_popescu prolly. [16:42]
herbijudlestoids ok i will setup a logger before bed i think [16:42]
mircea_popescu so 9bn on march is 8:1 [16:43]
mircea_popescu steep. [16:43]
mircea_popescu what good are 3Gh/W chips at 3 dollars each in that context ? [16:43]
nubbins` a guy really does lsd in that wall street movie and writes an exam and passes it? [16:44]
mircea_popescu nubbins` crack. [16:44]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://cryptome.org/2014/01/polynominal-time-pkc-attack.pdf [16:44]
nubbins` oh well jeez sure [16:44]
nubbins` it [16:44]
nubbins` 's wall street [16:44]
mircea_popescu these people and their pdfs ;/ [16:44]
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ThickAsThieves "If I was inclined to have a boyfriend, I would select one my height and weight to save having to readjust the driver's seat position. I am not interested in doubling my wardrobe as I wear the same outfit everyday to facilitate speedy identification should I ever be in a boating accident." [16:44]
mircea_popescu nubbins` dude you ever seen a series 7 ? [16:44]
ThickAsThieves I like this David Thorne guy [16:44]
asciilifeform RIP McEliece. [16:44]
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nubbins` not being american nor a stock broker, can't say that i have [16:45]
asciilifeform (or perhaps not. seems to rely on bit-errors.) [16:45]
nubbins` six hours! oh my [16:45]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform is it basically http://www.iacr.org/cryptodb/data/paper.php?pubkey=3559 ? [16:45]
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nubbins` you'd crash and burn pretty close to the start [16:45]
nubbins` unless you actually did take lsd [16:45]
mircea_popescu nubbins` it's like the SAT, except to even show on the scale in s7 you need about 98% on the sat. [16:45]
nubbins` in which case the crash and burn would be more like a smouldering fire [16:45]
mircea_popescu besides, it costs plenty to even take. [16:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.002825 = 0.226 BTC [-] [16:46]
mircea_popescu enough so that most people rely on their comp to pay for it. [16:46]
mircea_popescu sort-of like the rhel exams except ^2 [16:46]
nubbins` heh [16:46]
nubbins` actuarial exams are a paid-for thing usually, as well [16:47]
nubbins` looked into this some years ago when deciding whether to do statistics or not [16:47]
mircea_popescu so are drugs. now, would you take a 20 dollar hit the day of a 20k exam ? [16:47]
nubbins` depends, am i a fuck-up? [16:47]
mircea_popescu right=o. [16:48]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: nope, this one's new. [16:48]
mircea_popescu you're not getting a pass. which is you know... wtf, this guy PASSED ?! [16:48]
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nubbins` https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=435263.msg4809695#msg4809695 [16:49]
ozbot Personal responsibility and inept Bitcoin jesusing [16:49]
nubbins` if you can pay to remove bans, posts like that should entitle you to a get-out-of-jail-free card [16:50]
nubbins` "OP made me feel quite ashamed of how a lot of the listed qualities that i find so disgusting in of the mindsets of some the crypto following, so succinctly described my own actions which i never looked closely, instead just looking at others in contempt." [16:50]
mircea_popescu how is she ever getting banned [16:50]
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mircea_popescu o you mean the noob. mayhap. [16:50]
nubbins` not OP, but that reply [16:50]
nubbins` heh [16:50]
ThickAsThieves "I don't want the next big job creating discovery, the research and technology, to be in Germany, or China, or Japan," the president said [16:50]
ThickAsThieves uhhh [16:51]
mircea_popescu lol a little late for that. [16:51]
nubbins` HEH [16:51]
herbijudlestoids k loggin [16:51]
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herbijudlestoids i maek u pretty graf [16:51]
herbijudlestoids even setup logrotate on the fucker [16:52]
mircea_popescu so i was going to go, speaking of imperatOr, here's http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2014#465492 and then highlight asciilifeform [16:52]
mircea_popescu except assbot STOLE the gist of my message. [16:52]
nubbins` https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=435263.msg4802685#msg4802685 [16:52]
ozbot Personal responsibility and inept Bitcoin jesusing [16:52]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla you gotta fix this censorsheep! [16:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.63749999 = 2.55 BTC [+] {3} [16:52]
nubbins` "seemed to be" ;( [16:52]
mircea_popescu !t h am1 [16:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK:AM1] 1D: 0.40600000 / 0.54752483 / 0.67500000 (304 shares, 166.44754973 BTC), 7D: 0.34000000 / 0.47735293 / 0.70890000 (1936 shares, 924.15527485 BTC), 30D: 0.28090000 / 0.47903449 / 0.74500000 (5435 shares, 2603.55244873 BTC) [16:53]
nubbins` i have hundred btc on just dice.. very nvervous right now [16:53]
nubbins` i'd be nervous with 100btc on a DICE SITE even if it wasn't down [16:54]
mircea_popescu apparently teh ppl liked teh forum post. [16:54]
mircea_popescu nubbins` i guess it depends whose. [16:54]
nubbins` that's like almost half a house! [16:55]
nubbins` "sez here you lost an incredible amount of money to some website. do you know who runs it?" "some guy named doug, i think" [16:55]
herbijudlestoids in aus the house price to avg salary ratio is double the US, so 100BTC is like, 20% at best for the value of a house here :P [16:56]
nubbins` herbijudlestoids: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2014#465989 [16:57]
mircea_popescu this would imply aussies avgt salary is 2.5x us [16:57]
herbijudlestoids mircea_popescu: GDP/capits is 70k PP USD in AUS and about 49k PPUSD in AUS [16:57]
herbijudlestoids s/capits/capita [16:57]
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mircea_popescu wait wut ? [16:57]
herbijudlestoids wut wut [16:57]
mircea_popescu which is it, 70k or 49k ? [16:58]
mircea_popescu schroedingaustralia ? [16:58]
herbijudlestoids err sorry lol 49k in US [16:58]
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mircea_popescu gdp/capita is a poor measure of salaries, anyway. [16:58]
herbijudlestoids but in both cases very close to the avg salary [16:58]
nubbins` well, what's in an average [16:58]
mircea_popescu ro gdp/capita is like 8k. average salary is like 500, minimum wage is a whopping 150 dollars. [16:58]
nubbins` know the average income of the city bill gates lives? [16:59]
herbijudlestoids some form of aggregate understanding? [16:59]
nubbins` s/understanding/data [16:59]
mircea_popescu like 2/3 of the population makes that minimum wage. [16:59]
herbijudlestoids just checked to confirm US avg salary is $52k USD and AUS avg salary is $73k AUD, evens out to be about 50/70 on a PP basis [17:02]
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mircea_popescu point remains, there is a LOT of variance in both housing prices and salaries in the us. [17:03]
mircea_popescu the "half a house" comment probably references older discussions re the housing market in central ohio [17:03]
nubbins` nah just going on my own house [17:03]
nubbins` only one person who regulars this chan cares about central ohio ;p [17:04]
ThickAsThieves it's like $2800 for 1000sqft in San Francisco and $800/mo for a 1700sqft house in north Florida [17:04]
nubbins` so many people from around here own houses in florida now [17:04]
nubbins` imagine, the descendants of fishmongers from what is historically canada's poorest province, scooping up florida real estate like monopoly properties [17:06]
nubbins` not sure if it says more about here or there [17:06]
mircea_popescu The “True Love Tester” bra can’t be masterfully unhooked by some skeevy player who hit on the wearer at a club. No, this bra only comes undone when sensors embedded inside it that are connected wirelessly to a smartphone app detect a particular heart rate [17:07]
mircea_popescu basically... it's the rape bra. [17:07]
nubbins` facelamp [17:07]
nubbins` guess it's not for the gym either [17:07]
nubbins` actually the reverse would be great for the gym [17:08]
herbijudlestoids ok its not double [17:08]
mircea_popescu get on the stairmaster, tits go out [17:08]
nubbins` keep your heart rate up OR ELSE [17:08]
herbijudlestoids the house price to income in aus is about 4 atm and about 3 in the US [17:08]
mircea_popescu dude that's a gread idea [17:08]
nubbins` it's like the pay toilets in korea, you stop feeding coins and the door pops open [17:08]
mircea_popescu perhaps make some cockrings with electricity too. [17:08]
mircea_popescu sorta like the dog collars. [17:09]
nubbins` "sorta like"... they make shock collars for small dogs too :P [17:09]
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herbijudlestoids ah shiet 2am [17:10]
mircea_popescu yes but what dog is that small [17:10]
herbijudlestoids bredtime [17:10]
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mircea_popescu did he say it's time to get bred ?! [17:10]
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ThickAsThieves anyone present like hip hop? [17:12]
nubbins` some, not all [17:13]
nubbins` not most, even [17:13]
ThickAsThieves i wanna share a song i just finished, but have no one to share with [17:14]
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mircea_popescu o.o [17:14]
nubbins` put it on soundcloud and let the world hear [17:15]
ThickAsThieves i cant yet [17:15]
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ThickAsThieves https://db.tt/Rm6UjcFC is the mp3, if anyone is interested [17:17]
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ThickAsThieves i did the music/mix/production [17:17]
nubbins` mircea_popescu: regarding s.mg forums/wikis/etc, the deal is one cannot simultaneously use game assets and accept payment? [17:17]
ThickAsThieves a local does the raps [17:17]
mircea_popescu nubbins` yea [17:18]
nubbins` does that extend to likenesses of assets or just the originals? [17:19]
nubbins` say, a rendition of creature x [17:19]
mircea_popescu uh [17:20]
mircea_popescu what are you trying to do, let's start at that end [17:20]
nubbins` haha. [17:20]
nubbins` make a forum [17:21]
nubbins` specifically, one with some sort of in-game beastie incorporated into the logo [17:21]
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mircea_popescu so enjoy. [17:22]
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nubbins` lovely [17:22]
nubbins` not a lot to discuss yet, but figured it'd be nice to have something in place for when there is [17:22]
mircea_popescu just don't start with any thermos bs. [17:22]
nubbins` well i was thinking about banning everyone by default [17:23]
mircea_popescu lol [17:23]
nubbins` (srsly) [17:23]
nubbins` hence the original question ;D [17:24]
mircea_popescu well then if you ban everyone what do i care ? i'll never know. [17:24]
nubbins` you'd probably get an honorary membership [17:24]
nubbins` i mean, uh, un-baning [17:24]
nubbins` *banning [17:25]
mircea_popescu so what exactly aren;t you saying ? [17:25]
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nubbins` it's a pay forum [17:25]
mircea_popescu well no, you can't do that. [17:25]
nubbins` aha [17:25]
mircea_popescu why do you want to make a pay forum anyway [17:26]
nubbins` (a) to cover costs and (b) to get paid [17:26]
nubbins` justifiable if the content is there [17:26]
nubbins` for instance, gigposters.com forums costs $20/year for "premium" membership [17:26]
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nubbins` not required, but you're mercilessly browbeaten if you leech too much good advice without buying one. [17:27]
nubbins` and the real nice stuff, like plans for equipment, is hidden inside the premium members subforum [17:27]
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mircea_popescu but listen, if what you want is to get paid, you should do something else than a forum [17:28]
mircea_popescu forums are god awful for this purpose. do something that pays. [17:28]
azi` so weird.. if you want to withdraw funds from mtgox and send them to another BTC you are faced with "invalid BTC address" error multiple times and it only works after a random amount of "submit clicks.. [17:28]
azi` i am wondering if they use this to stall funds on the site... [17:29]
nubbins` tbf, if i wanted to get paid well, i'd not have retired from IT [17:29]
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mircea_popescu azi` indeed. [17:29]
azi` am I just paranoid? [17:29]
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nubbins` but that aside, i can't see myself running a free-for-all forum [17:29]
nubbins` not worth the effort [17:29]
KRS1 they've done other things like disabled onclick actions when you try to submit a form [17:29]
nubbins` even with advertising [17:29]
azi` KRS1: hm? what does thatmean [17:30]
KRS1 they disabled submit buttons in the past [17:30]
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mircea_popescu nubbins` well that's kinda it, as a general principle. if you want to get paid do something that pays [17:30]
mircea_popescu rather than try to finagle a fundamentally unpaying model into paying you [17:31]
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azi` KRS1: so they are a bit shady.. [17:31]
mircea_popescu azi` they are beyond shady. [17:31]
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mircea_popescu http://i.imgur.com/mnk0H0o.gif [17:32]
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mircea_popescu b0n1 fwiw, it's more likely doge than whatever botnet. [19:59]
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mircea_popescu http://25.media.tumblr.com/28888a6464f3ab2b5df77fa3ec90bb61/tumblr_mj0qmbQ77O1ru15g3o1_1280.jpg [20:02]
TomServo zoinks scoob [20:02]
TomServo check out the funbags on that hosehound' [20:03]
mircea_popescu lol [20:03]
mircea_popescu don't tell me you're a fan of the cartoon dorkage of the 80s [20:04]
TomServo well, in the 80s! [20:04]
mircea_popescu i hated that hanna barbera shit. scooby doo, the jetsons, roadrunner, the works. [20:04]
mircea_popescu i was an emo preteen! [20:04]
TomServo haha [20:04]
TomServo I preferred, M.A.S.K, COPS and transformers [20:05]
ThickAsThieves i can tell from the fro pics [20:05]
ThickAsThieves you arent smiling til puberty [20:05]
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mircea_popescu http://25.media.tumblr.com/1504bd7f076ab4a2d5469a58bd5d0a18/tumblr_mj0qnpcCxr1ru15g3o1_1280.jpg << dating in 2020. [20:05]
TomServo That fro though; That's impressive. [20:06]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves tho this may be more a function of photographic technology. sometime around my puberty they figured out how to take your picture without blinding you with twelve billion watts. [20:07]
ThickAsThieves hehe [20:07]
ThickAsThieves your peers seemed to manage [20:07]
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mircea_popescu eh girls, whadda they know. [20:08]
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TomServo Road Runner was a Loony Toon btw [20:10]
mircea_popescu i guess it was. [20:11]
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mod6 i kinda liked the Road Runner. [20:15]
mod6 Wile E. Coyote running off cliff without realizing that there is no ground beneath his feet reminds me of U.S. econ. [20:17]
mircea_popescu but why ? the coyote tries shit, the roadrunner does not. yet it always comes ahead. [20:17]
mod6 hhaha, i dunno. guess he's just too fast. [20:17]
mircea_popescu i get it, the socialist mind wants this to be the case. yet... shiut doesn't work that way. [20:17]
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mircea_popescu irl the coyote eventually fucks up the roadrunner. badly. [20:18]
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mod6 I supposed after enough chance encounters, sooner or later the otherside wins one. [20:18]
mod6 *suppose [20:19]
mircea_popescu kinda what got me, you know ? it never fucking won. gets boring to watch it if you know the result aforehand [20:20]
mod6 true enough. the main attraction is to find out what devious scheme the coyote will attempt and ultimately fail with. [20:20]
mircea_popescu suppose no matter what you did, the computer just blinked the screen once. that's it. [20:21]
nubbins` well, wimpy kids watching cartoons don't want the mean guy to win, y'know? [20:21]
mircea_popescu wouldn't make anyone too interested in programming would it [20:21]
mircea_popescu nubbins` how is the coyote the bad guy ? [20:22]
mircea_popescu fucking roadrunner is the bad guy [20:22]
nubbins` on account of him wanting to have lunch [20:22]
nubbins` obv [20:22]
nubbins` veg agenda [20:22]
mircea_popescu what is this, guilttrippin for preteens ? [20:22]
nubbins` mel blanc? vegan [20:22]
mircea_popescu haha srsly ?! [20:22]
nubbins` no idea ;( [20:22]
TomServo lol [20:23]
nubbins` doubt it [20:23]
mircea_popescu this never occured to me. seems too simple to work :D [20:23]
nubbins` recall the sheep skits [20:23]
nubbins` same thing [20:23]
mircea_popescu you mean with the titty chick whatever her name was ? [20:23]
nubbins` nah sheepdog vs wolf [20:23]
mircea_popescu i dun think i ever saw that [20:23]
TomServo I'm with mod6, the draw was seeing what nonsense was Macgyver'd up by the coyote. (Much like MacGyver incidentally) [20:24]
nubbins` http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e3/Sam_and_Ralph_choke.png [20:24]
mircea_popescu but mcgyver GETS IT [20:24]
mircea_popescu kinda why i never got into that, either : he always succeeds [20:24]
mircea_popescu wtf is up with that [20:24]
TomServo More of a Knight Rider guy? [20:25]
mod6 yah, McGyver always seems to figure it out, always works out for him. never ends up with his balls in a vice. [20:25]
mircea_popescu i never watched that one either. [20:25]
ThickAsThieves CNN Announces Partnership with Twitter to Revolutionize News Gathering [20:25]
mircea_popescu of the newer stuff i watched dexter and cow&chicken, which both imo are brilliant. [20:25]
mircea_popescu esp the latter [20:25]
ThickAsThieves gather all the news! [20:26]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves " CNN Announces Partnership with Twitter to stop paying reporters altogether" [20:26]
TomServo You finished Dexter? [20:26]
mod6 CNN, such irrelevance. [20:26]
nubbins` meat grinder announces partnership with iphone to revolutionize music [20:26]
mircea_popescu TomServo they only did like 20-30 episodes iirc. [20:26]
nubbins` there's like 8 seasons of dexter [20:26]
mircea_popescu the renaisance was coming to an end [20:26]
ThickAsThieves hide your news, hide your blogs, CNN is coming for you [20:27]
mod6 "Tonight on CNN, we're gonna read the top trending tweets!" [20:27]
mircea_popescu nubbins` dexter, boy genius. and his sister dee dee [20:27]
mod6 *snooze* [20:27]
mircea_popescu mod6 ayup. [20:27]
nubbins` oh, HAHA. that show ruled [20:27]
TomServo Oh, Dexter cartoon. [20:27]
nubbins` laborrahtories etc [20:27]
mircea_popescu old media is becoming a sort of "internet aids for old and disabled people" [20:27]
ThickAsThieves AOL [20:27]
mod6 exactly mp [20:27]
mircea_popescu not that there's anything wrong with it, nice public service [20:27]
mircea_popescu but there's not going to be any money in it. [20:27]
mircea_popescu i never heard of a multi billion dollar "reading books for the blind" venture. [20:28]
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ThickAsThieves CNN Announces Terminal AOL Affliction [20:28]
TomServo But I hear glasses and hearing aids are really expensive. [20:28]
mircea_popescu pretty much. "CNN Gives Up" [20:28]
mircea_popescu TomServo good ones. with emphasis on good. [20:28]
ThickAsThieves Currently on their gravestone: 10 winter health myths busted, Motley Crue signs 'death pact', Ancient blueprint for Noah's Ark found? [20:29]
mircea_popescu da fuck. [20:29]
mircea_popescu is cnn like a sort of tv daily mail ?! [20:29]
nubbins` haha [20:29]
TomServo Or worse. [20:29]
mircea_popescu wtf is going on over there [20:30]
ThickAsThieves She was killed for photobomb, cops say [20:30]
nubbins` motley crue, noah's ark [20:30]
ThickAsThieves Surprising celebrity friendships [20:30]
mircea_popescu dude this is like the depths of stalin's winter, proletcultism it was called. [20:30]
mircea_popescu ;;google proletcultism [20:30]
ThickAsThieves Super rich, stop your ranting! [20:30]
gribble Poezia română după proletcultism by Constantin Abăluţă ...: ; Sebastian Reichmann (Contributor of Poezia română după ...: ; Proletkult - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: [20:30]
mircea_popescu apparently this concept doth not exist in english [20:30]
mircea_popescu o nm, proletkult [20:30]
mod6 OOoo. I want to spend 20 minutes of my life on "Suprising celebrity friendships" [20:30]
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ThickAsThieves lol, i skipped the main headline: [20:31]
ThickAsThieves IT DIDN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN [20:31]
ThickAsThieves Snow turns Atlanta into 'zombie movie' [20:31]
FabianB ;;premium mtgox btce [20:31]
mircea_popescu yeah, that. it sucked. [20:31]
gribble Premium of MtGox over BTC-E is currently 17.8118295455 %. [20:31]
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ThickAsThieves all their journalists are Twitterers and SEO Specialists now [20:32]
ThickAsThieves I blame Google [20:32]
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ThickAsThieves I had this idea to make the anti-google search engine [20:32]
ThickAsThieves but i know nothing of running search engines [20:32]
FabianB duckduckgo? [20:33]
ThickAsThieves thats just anonymous [20:33]
ThickAsThieves not anti enough [20:33]
mod6 how about a simple page that when you hit SUBMIT on the form just returns, "GO FUCK YOURSELF"? [20:34]
mod6 fuuuuckyougle.com [20:34]
ThickAsThieves sorta like a simpler lmgtfy [20:34]
ThickAsThieves hehe [20:34]
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pankkake duckduckgo has some anti-google features like "no bubble" http://dontbubble.us/ [20:35]
ThickAsThieves lol: POLITICIAN EXPLODES, THEN APOLOGIZES [20:35]
ThickAsThieves Witnesses complain of bloody mess but appreciate posthumous apology [20:36]
mod6 must have been a mess. [20:36]
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mircea_popescu it's not really possible to make a google without ai. [20:38]
ThickAsThieves thats actually the anti part [20:38]
ThickAsThieves all search weight factors would be transparent and customizable [20:38]
ThickAsThieves then the engine averages all template weights for a default one [20:39]
ThickAsThieves or curates it some [20:39]
ThickAsThieves but if yoy make an account [20:39]
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ThickAsThieves you can de-weight twitter mentions, or such [20:39]
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ThickAsThieves save custom search templates [20:39]
ThickAsThieves like weight blogs and twitter only, if you are a journalist [20:39]
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ThickAsThieves all SEO methods are posted [20:40]
ThickAsThieves no mystery [20:40]
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ThickAsThieves it is law instead [20:40]
ThickAsThieves lotsa algo work [20:41]
ThickAsThieves but methodical [20:41]
ThickAsThieves this would cause search results to be more organic with time and trends [20:42]
ThickAsThieves rather than the reverse [20:42]
ThickAsThieves IPO coming soon [20:42]
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ThickAsThieves codename: Search Party [20:44]
mod6 bluehorseshoe <3's anacott steel [20:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 240 @ 0.00276753 = 0.6642 BTC [-] {3} [20:45]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/democracy-and-finance-dont-mix-the-math-involved/ [20:46]
ozbot Democracy and finance don’t mix - the math involved pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [20:46]
mircea_popescu all search weight factors would be transparent and customizable << now this is a great idea. [20:47]
mircea_popescu really great idea. [20:47]
mircea_popescu especially if you allow people to add factors. [20:47]
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mircea_popescu basically self-fighting antispam engine [20:47]
gecko_x2 mp hi, i need ur help [20:47]
mircea_popescu shoot [20:47]
ThickAsThieves thats the first time i told the idea and the listeners eyes didnt cross [20:48]
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gecko_x2 a guy want to buy litecoin for btc of me for alittle higher rate than btc-e [20:48]
gecko_x2 this is his proposal for escrow: [20:48]
gecko_x2 I create and give you a btc wallet and password on blockchain with 5.7 BTC 2. You can login , check BTC, change password and attach and verify to your email this wallet 3. You send me the ltc 4. i release you the transfer keys so you can send BTC to your personal wallet that way block chain role is as escrow [20:48]
mircea_popescu it's weak. [20:48]
gecko_x2 what do you think? [20:48]
gecko_x2 why? [20:48]
ThickAsThieves lol [20:48]
ThickAsThieves cuz he can change pass again [20:48]
mircea_popescu because he yeah [20:48]
ThickAsThieves with other factors [20:48]
mircea_popescu use someone as an escrow. [20:49]
ThickAsThieves yeah [20:49]
ThickAsThieves i'll so crypto escrow for ya for .2 btc if no one else will [20:49]
ThickAsThieves do* [20:49]
mircea_popescu that;s a little rich innit ? [20:49]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust gecko_x2 [20:50]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user gecko_x2: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=gecko_x2 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=gecko_x2 | Rated since: never [20:50]
punkman ThickAsThieves: http://www.searchenginecaffe.com/2010/11/blekko-launches-brings-transparency-to.html [20:50]
ThickAsThieves call me Steve Jobs [20:50]
punkman two years later: "Blekko Betrays Trust Blocks SEO Data And Shreds Transparency Policy" [20:50]
mircea_popescu punkman srsly ?! [20:50]
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mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves clearly there's money in it. [20:50]
punkman well if anyone wants to experiment, this is very handy: http://commoncrawl.org/ [20:51]
ThickAsThieves maybe we can fund this blekko guy [20:51]
punkman you can have a personal search engine, it's gonna cost though [20:51]
mircea_popescu back in the days i still had time, i used to run romania's digg/reddit/sm aggregator thing [20:51]
mircea_popescu it did some pretty wicked search things, but then again it was kind of small [20:51]
mircea_popescu not THAT much romanian internet out there. [20:52]
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ThickAsThieves the real answer is to patent the search idea after fully documenting it, then sell it to Yahoo [20:52]
mircea_popescu do you want to do something or just make money ? [20:52]
ThickAsThieves in this case, money [20:52]
ThickAsThieves i have no desire to be CEO of TAToogle [20:53]
mircea_popescu so then it's not for you. [20:53]
gecko_x2 well [20:53]
gecko_x2 he is offering me 5.7 btc for 200 ltc [20:53]
gecko_x2 current value on btc-e 5.3 btc [20:53]
mircea_popescu this is not a consideration gecko_x2 [20:53]
gecko_x2 i'd love to take 0.4 btc [20:54]
gecko_x2 how to make this work? [20:54]
mircea_popescu use some person as an escrow. [20:54]
mircea_popescu someone with a wot rating [20:54]
ThickAsThieves you dont even need to find a person [20:54]
mircea_popescu then he can rate you both and you can rate each other etc. [20:54]
ThickAsThieves just tell him you will [20:54]
ThickAsThieves and he'll go away [20:55]
mircea_popescu lol or that [20:55]
pankkake haha, true [20:55]
gecko_x2 ;;gettrust mircea_popescu [20:55]
gribble WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user gecko_x2 to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=gecko_x2&dest=mircea_popescu | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mircea_popescu | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011 [20:55]
mircea_popescu cynical bastards, the lot of ye. [20:55]
gecko_x2 so mp will u be my escrow? [20:55]
gecko_x2 or TaT? [20:55]
pankkake why would someone want to pay more than on btc-e? makes no sense [20:55]
gecko_x2 may i ask why you would want to do this instead of just buying the ltc on an exchange? [20:55]
punkman free ltc of course [20:56]
mircea_popescu i don't actually have a ltc wallet o.o [20:56]
gecko_x2 i don't use any exch [20:56]
gecko_x2 5 mounts [20:56]
gecko_x2 i lose much money,also someone hack my account [20:56]
gecko_x2 and that is rison ''WHY [20:56]
ThickAsThieves he's wasting your time [20:56]
mircea_popescu http://31.media.tumblr.com/fafc587c5a3b9709dd750ca3bd8f5be1/tumblr_miind4dYZI1s1m2veo1_400.gif << "check this shit out, are these the flappiest, looses tits ever or what ? what do you people think ?" [20:56]
ThickAsThieves and now ours [20:56]
pankkake can't spell = scammer. no exceptions [20:57]
mircea_popescu i wonder what that says of all the dorks hating on mpoe-pr [20:57]
mircea_popescu they rarely manage to speal. [20:57]
gecko_x2 c'monm peeps help me make some dough :) [20:57]
gecko_x2 ThickAsThieves? [20:58]
pankkake I can do the escrow but I doubt it will come to that [20:58]
ThickAsThieves i already offered to do it for .2btc [20:58]
ThickAsThieves maybe pankkake will for less [20:58]
gecko_x2 .1 [20:58]
ThickAsThieves or some forumite [20:58]
gecko_x2 :D [20:58]
punkman google found the video for the gif: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xq7twm_audrey-bastien-nude-scene_redband [20:58]
gecko_x2 https://blockchain.info/wallet/0ad7110b-eb0a-47e6-8281-ad425b966a6d [20:59]
ozbot My Wallet - Be Your Own Bank - Blockchain.info [20:59]
pankkake I have no litecoins now so might not be able to pay the tx fee actually :/ [20:59]
mircea_popescu punkman is it good ? [20:59]
KRS1 oh wow mircea_popescu..very nice, I would fap to those boobies. Plus she looks older than that girl. Hmmm. [21:01]
KRS1 She looks a bit jealous. [21:01]
gecko_x2 i'm logged in [21:02]
gecko_x2 should be ok you think? [21:02]
gecko_x2 he gave me the pass [21:02]
gecko_x2 5.83 btc [21:02]
gecko_x2 oh what the hell.. i'm game [21:03]
ThickAsThieves send the btc to another wallet then [21:03]
punkman gecko_x2, why aren't you doing this in small increments? [21:03]
mircea_popescu this is so cute. [21:04]
mircea_popescu http://bitbet.us/bet/281/btc-usd-at-mtgox-will-be-above-150-on/ << imagine if mtgox goes bye bye [21:05]
ozbot BitBet - BTC/USD at MtGox will be above $150 on Mar 1st 2014 [21:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.6300158 = 7.5602 BTC [-] {5} [21:06]
ThickAsThieves then youll get snackman's ghosts [21:08]
gecko_x2 hmm email verification code incorrect [21:09]
mircea_popescu is that like, a good thing ? [21:09]
ThickAsThieves lol [21:09]
ThickAsThieves how to lose $5000 with an audience [21:10]
mircea_popescu something tells me this is going to become a pretty epic example of "ask mp, ignore what he says" [21:10]
ThickAsThieves start counting your bash lines! [21:10]
lippoper what are you saying about dogecoin? [21:12]
lippoper that the ema lines have crossed once again? Maybe it's a good time to buy in and ride the wave? [21:13]
mircea_popescu i have no idea [21:13]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2013/hi-this-is-not-office/ [21:14]
ozbot Hi this is not office. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [21:14]
lippoper doge lol [21:14]
lippoper http://www.coindesk.com/vault-of-satoshi-new-altcoin-support/ [21:15]
lippoper https://www.vaultofsatoshi.com/orderbook [21:16]
ozbot Vault of Satoshi [21:16]
lippoper dogecoin -> usd [21:16]
ThickAsThieves ick [21:16]
lippoper as well as primecoin, feathercoin, quarkcoin, [21:16]
lippoper litecoin, namecoin, peercoin [21:17]
lippoper wow [21:17]
ThickAsThieves dogecoin is like a feedback loop of you slapping yourself in a mirror [21:17]
ThickAsThieves cant watch, not funny, embarassing, etc [21:17]
ThickAsThieves get off my lawn [21:18]
mircea_popescu dude you didn't see the artful clipart of the challenger with a D on it while sepparating from its boosters [21:18]
mircea_popescu how can you be so ignorant [21:18]
lippoper lolz [21:19]
ThickAsThieves i saw it [21:19]
ThickAsThieves and cringed [21:19]
ThickAsThieves when i see some things so hideous, i physically react [21:19]
ThickAsThieves like some of these reality shows [21:19]
mircea_popescu it is mildly concerning that the current crop of kids are so visually driven and cognitively impaired [21:19]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 41 @ 0.049 = 2.009 BTC [+] [21:20]
mircea_popescu it's almost as if living in a world of doges. [21:20]
ThickAsThieves there's this new celebrity gameshow [21:20]
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ThickAsThieves and they all sit on couches [21:20]
ThickAsThieves and pretend to be on drugs [21:20]
mircea_popescu srsly, what's with the drugs over there ? [21:20]
ThickAsThieves but mostly just display their new forms of surgical primping [21:21]
ThickAsThieves it's so painful to watch [21:21]
ThickAsThieves they all pretend to be funny [21:21]
mod6 this is a game show? [21:21]
ThickAsThieves like it's a total charicature of reality [21:22]
mircea_popescu more like a lame show [21:22]
mod6 srsly [21:22]
mod6 it would be funnier if they were ACTUALLY on drugs. [21:22]
ThickAsThieves http://www.nbc.com/hollywood-game-night/ [21:22]
ozbot Hollywood Game Night | Everyday People Play With Celebrities | NBC [21:22]
mircea_popescu anyway, ima be off to do some shit. if anyone seeks my advice just link them to the above. [21:22]
mircea_popescu do them about the same good. [21:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.00089633 = 23.4838 BTC [+] {2} [21:23]
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lippoper (つ◕_◕)つ [̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ιοο̲̅)̲̅$̲̅] [21:26]
ThickAsThieves it's a trap! [21:27]
lippoper http://i.imgur.com/Z9gvzc3.gif <-- We're not crashing... We're just practicing for the Olympics! [21:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10150 @ 0.00089637 = 9.0982 BTC [+] [21:31]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00089473 = 15.792 BTC [-] {2} [21:32]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15900 @ 0.00089637 = 14.2523 BTC [+] {2} [21:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.668 = 1.336 BTC [+] {2} [21:37]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.668 = 1.336 BTC [+] [21:41]
gecko_x2 omg [21:42]
gecko_x2 i just got conned :( [21:43]
pankkake how much? :/ [21:44]
ThickAsThieves !b 50 [21:45]
assbot Last 50 lines bashed and pending review. (http://dpaste.com/1575635/plain/) [21:45]
Animazing Let me guess 200LTC [21:45]
gecko_x2 yes? [21:47]
gecko_x2 did i loose it? [21:47]
ThickAsThieves did you? [21:47]
gecko_x2 hold [21:47]
Animazing If you sent it; you lost it [21:52]
Animazing it's as simple as that [21:52]
gecko_x2 how [21:52]
gecko_x2 i have the second pass to blockchain [21:53]
gecko_x2 wtf [21:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6300 @ 0.00089307 = 5.6263 BTC [-] [21:53]
kakobrekla start using normal chars mircea_popescu [21:54]
ThickAsThieves this panelist! [21:54]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23285 @ 0.00088913 = 20.7034 BTC [-] [21:57]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.66957442 = 4.687 BTC [+] {4} [21:58]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.66993293 = 20.098 BTC [+] {4} [22:02]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.677 = 6.77 BTC [+] {2} [22:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6115 @ 0.00088913 = 5.437 BTC [-] [22:03]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.68 = 2.04 BTC [+] [22:06]
gecko_x2 fucking shit [22:09]
gecko_x2 [17:43:31] * Maximilian was kicked by iwilcox (scammer) [22:09]
gecko_x2 :( [22:09]
kakobrekla dafuq u doin [22:09]
gecko_x2 :( [22:10]
gecko_x2 :8 [22:10]
gecko_x2 :( [22:10]
gecko_x2 motherf.. [22:11]
kakobrekla what happend ? [22:11]
gecko_x2 i got scammed it seems! [22:11]
kakobrekla yea, we got that.... [22:11]
kakobrekla detals? [22:12]
kakobrekla details? [22:12]
gecko_x2 well we used blockchain.info as escrow [22:12]
gecko_x2 i have second password [22:12]
gecko_x2 Volvo39 is 4faf593e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.175.89.62 * 79.175.89.62 - http://webchat.freenode.net [22:14]
gecko_x2 Volvo39 on #bitcoin #litecoin [22:14]
gecko_x2 Volvo39 using herbert.freenode.net DE [22:14]
gecko_x2 Volvo39 End of /WHOIS list. [22:14]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.69 = 1.38 BTC [+] [22:14]
Animazing still not details [22:15]
Animazing no* [22:15]
Animazing A whois is not details on a scam [22:15]
gecko_x2 hold on [22:15]
gecko_x2 i have all logs [22:15]
gecko_x2 :( [22:15]
gecko_x2 this can't be happening.. [22:15]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.690122 = 1.3802 BTC [+] [22:15]
gecko_x2 my gawd [22:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 137 @ 0.00629758 = 0.8628 BTC [+] {6} [22:16]
gecko_x2 MOTHERFUCK [22:17]
Animazing Just learn from the experience and move on [22:17]
Animazing When something sounds to good to be true it usually is [22:18]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00629999 = 0.63 BTC [+] {2} [22:19]
ThickAsThieves dude, yknow blockchain.info even has an escrow multi-sig feature thing [22:19]
punkman gecko_x2: I see you ignored my suggestion [22:19]
ThickAsThieves we told you [22:19]
ThickAsThieves like 4 of us [22:19]
pankkake http://otcdb.us.to/otc/?Volvo39 http://otcdb.us.to/otc/?*81.24.241* [22:19]
ozbot OTC Volvo39 [22:19]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.69 = 1.38 BTC [-] [22:20]
gecko_x2 FUCK [22:20]
pankkake I think it's the same annoying guy [22:20]
punkman gecko_x2, just don't waste too much time trying to get it back [22:20]
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gecko_x2 :( [22:21]
gecko_x2 how is it possible [22:21]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.690122 = 2.0704 BTC [+] [22:22]
gecko_x2 jesus fuck 5.6 btc [22:22]
gecko_x2 is there anything i can do? [22:22]
punkman because trading passwords over IM is not an acceptable substitute for the actual blockchain [22:22]
gecko_x2 but i made a second pass to blockchain [22:22]
gecko_x2 omg [22:23]
ThickAsThieves why didnt you send the coins to another wallet? [22:23]
ThickAsThieves that was your second chance [22:23]
gecko_x2 i neede the private key [22:23]
ThickAsThieves lol [22:24]
gecko_x2 :( [22:24]
gecko_x2 funny? [22:24]
ThickAsThieves almost perfectly [22:24]
ThickAsThieves you trollin? [22:24]
gecko_x2 NO [22:25]
gecko_x2 god damnit [22:25]
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deadweasel are you sure? [22:26]
pankkake take it as a learning experience, albeit expensive [22:26]
deadweasel could be a decent troll. or you might have lyme disease. is your brain swollen? [22:26]
gecko_x2 what [22:27]
gecko_x2 i can't login to the blockchain account anymore [22:27]
gecko_x2 i made a second pass [22:27]
gecko_x2 how is this possible? [22:27]
deadweasel did you use multi-sig? [22:27]
gecko_x2 i was logged in [22:27]
deadweasel so no. [22:27]
gecko_x2 reated a second password [22:27]
gecko_x2 created* [22:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.690122 BTC [+] [22:28]
gecko_x2 so how can he access the btc? [22:28]
deadweasel depends on how stupidly you set up the transaction. [22:28]
pankkake what is this second password thing? [22:28]
deadweasel the eagle flies at midnight [22:28]
ThickAsThieves until the bitcoins are in your own private wallet, you dont have them [22:28]
pankkake blochchain.info derives the private key from the password IIRC [22:28]
ThickAsThieves that's a constant [22:29]
gecko_x2 hold he's back [22:30]
pankkake he's there every other day [22:33]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4224 @ 0.00089638 = 3.7863 BTC [+] [22:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8501 @ 0.00089727 = 7.6277 BTC [+] {2} [22:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 20000 @ 0.00007321 = 1.4642 BTC [-] {31} [22:42]
gecko_x2 pankkake so he's a scammer? [22:43]
gecko_x2 you sure? [22:43]
pankkake yes… serial scammer [22:43]
gecko_x2 omg :( [22:43]
gecko_x2 why the hell did i do this? [22:45]
gecko_x2 my last btc [22:45]
ThickAsThieves you are lucky [22:46]
ThickAsThieves assuming youve learned your lesson [22:46]
gecko_x2 what? [22:46]
ThickAsThieves most of us have surely fooled away more than 5btc [22:46]
TomServo gecko_x2: Why would you ask for advice and not follow it? [22:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 220 @ 0.0063 = 1.386 BTC [+] [22:49]
deadweasel impulsivity + greed = fail [22:49]
gecko_x2 do you think i need this shit right now? [22:50]
deadweasel yes [22:50]
TomServo Yes. [22:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2000 @ 0.00271438 = 5.4288 BTC [-] {18} [22:50]
TomServo Well, actually you needed it earlier. AND GOT IT. [22:50]
* TomServo boggles. [22:50]
* deadweasel wiggles [22:50]
deadweasel you know you like it, TomServo [22:50]
deadweasel keep boggling, i'm not there yet [22:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 7179 @ 0.00007 = 0.5025 BTC [-] {3} [22:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35035 @ 0.00089572 = 31.3816 BTC [-] [22:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1075 @ 0.00270213 = 2.9048 BTC [-] {5} [22:53]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 60 @ 0.0027 = 0.162 BTC [-] [22:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 420 @ 0.00045007 = 0.189 BTC [-] {3} [22:57]
lippoper so from last time I said might be good time to invest in doges, they have gone from 170 to 180 satoshis [22:59]
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Korbman Soooo...I've been catching up in this channel since I hadn't looked in a number of hours [22:59]
Korbman did I literally just read a scam unfold [22:59]
Korbman *unfolded because someone can't trade properly? [23:00]
deadweasel they tried, seems to have ignored the advice [23:00]
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deadweasel learning is painful [23:00]
deadweasel and expensive [23:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10500 @ 0.00089768 = 9.4256 BTC [+] {2} [23:00]
* Korbman faceplams so hard it causes a concussion [23:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIF] 279 @ 0.00043001 = 0.12 BTC [-] [23:01]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [COG] 30 @ 0.03182103 = 0.9546 BTC [-] {6} [23:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00639999 = 0.64 BTC [+] {2} [23:07]
ThickAsThieves preach on sister! [23:08]
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Korbman whelp, that's unfortunate [23:10]
jurov !t m s.mpoe [23:11]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00088298 / 0.00088988 / 0.00089795 (1141890 shares, 1,016.15 BTC), 7D: 0.00087792 / 0.0009462 / 0.00101414 (6193303 shares, 5,860.16 BTC), 30D: 0.00082205 / 0.00089781 / 0.00101414 (28987275 shares, 26,025.11 BTC) [23:11]
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jurov !t m s.bbet [23:11]
assbot [MPEX:S.BBET] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 0.00072 / 0.00072064 / 0.00075 (511 shares, 0.37 BTC), 30D: 0.00045 / 0.00063054 / 0.0009 (18832 shares, 11.87 BTC) [23:11]
Korbman geck0_x2 - be thankful that's all you lost. Most of us have lost waaayyyyy more [23:11]
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Korbman it's a very painful learning experience, but you'll be better off in the end [23:11]
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azi` what kind of scam happened? [23:23]
KRS1 Can you please describe the scam, sir. [23:25]
jurov did it involve sauna? [23:26]
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KRS1 Gecko_x2, Volvo39 stole 200 ltc from you? [23:27]
gecko_x2 YES [23:28]
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gecko_x2 http://pastebin.com/rXNhe8V2 [23:28]
ozbot [20:33:00] hey [20:33:11] hi [20:33:24] 2 - Pastebin.com [23:28]
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KRS1 sorry to hear that [23:29]
twizt gecko_x2: [23:29]
twizt you are so retarded [23:29]
twizt hes gave you instructions [23:30]
twizt and u followed them like a noob [23:30]
azi` was this guy verifed on otc? [23:30]
twizt lol [23:30]
twizt prolly didnt question anything [23:30]
pankkake he isn't registered, and he gets upset if you ask him to register [23:31]
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gecko_x2 http://pastebin.com/ze3Pm2mR [23:32]
ozbot [21:43:05] hi - Volvo39 is 4faf593e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.175.8 - Pastebin.com [23:32]
pankkake also gets upset if you ask why he changes his nick all the time [23:33]
Apocalyptic it's the serbian dude right [23:34]
Bunnyh you asked " may i ask why you would want to do this instead of just buying the ltc on an exchange?" and then just accepted the bullshit answer [23:34]
azi` its easy to be smart now [23:34]
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TomServo azi`: eh? [23:36]
Bunnyh i just don't understand why anyone would have to do btc/ltc trades outside of an exchange, and looks like gecko_x2 didn't either, but still accepted [23:36]
gecko_x2 :( [23:37]
azi` yeah, too bad [23:38]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 6 @ 0.07501835 = 0.4501 BTC [-] {4} [23:55]
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