Forum logs for 30 Jan 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 3 @ 0.0489999 = 0.147 BTC [+] [00:09]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 36 @ 0.00639998 = 0.2304 BTC [+] [00:10]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 318 @ 0.00639999 = 2.0352 BTC [+] [00:22]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 73 @ 0.00649588 = 0.4742 BTC [+] {5} [00:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00639998 = 1.28 BTC [-] [00:27]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 100 @ 0.00639998 = 0.64 BTC [-] [00:28]
kakobrekla ah well, part of learning process, mistakes that is. [00:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.62223306 = 5.6001 BTC [-] {6} [00:30]
kakobrekla with bitcoin, the sooner you go through it, the better. [00:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.6001 = 4.8008 BTC [-] [00:31]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58455 @ 0.00089508 = 52.3219 BTC [-] {4} [00:50]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02999905 = 0.12 BTC [+] [00:54]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 39 @ 0.60342698 = 23.5337 BTC [+] {8} [01:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.6 = 6 BTC [-] [01:06]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 33 @ 0.54818464 = 18.0901 BTC [-] {11} [01:08]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.501 = 3.507 BTC [-] [01:09]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 14 @ 0.49785714 = 6.97 BTC [-] {3} [01:10]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 116 @ 0.00639998 = 0.7424 BTC [-] {2} [01:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22427 @ 0.00089682 = 20.113 BTC [+] [01:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0060001 = 0.15 BTC [-] {4} [01:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12790 @ 0.00089423 = 11.4372 BTC [-] [01:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.54899 = 8.7838 BTC [+] [01:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 28 @ 0.0057 = 0.1596 BTC [-] {3} [01:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.54799999 = 1.096 BTC [-] {2} [01:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4488 @ 0.00089423 = 4.0133 BTC [-] [01:28]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.545 BTC [-] [01:33]
herbijudlestoids hmmm forgot to put a datestamp on my logger [01:34]
herbijudlestoids otherwise some interesting datapoints coming through already [01:35]
kakobrekla OMG ITS GOING TO CRASH [01:36]
kakobrekla anyway, i thought you went to the liquid markets? [01:37]
herbijudlestoids i do, like i said last night, just an idea that came to me then [01:37]
herbijudlestoids <-- here is a distribution of the overnight tick returns [01:40]
ozbot imgur: the simple image sharer [01:40]
herbijudlestoids quite an interesting looking formation [01:40]
kakobrekla whats the x axis [01:43]
herbijudlestoids i log normalise the return between ticks [01:43]
herbijudlestoids x axis is the value of those returns [01:44]
kakobrekla return between ticks? [01:44]
kakobrekla you mean price difference? [01:44]
herbijudlestoids its the % return if you had invested in the asset at the tick [01:44]
herbijudlestoids (log normalised) [01:45]
kakobrekla hm [01:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.0489999 = 0.196 BTC [+] [01:45]
herbijudlestoids its a pretty normal way to break the timeseries down in quantitative analysis, but usually at a lower resloution than per tick [01:45]
herbijudlestoids once i build up some data and refine my timestamping etc i will start to record 10 sec data from the ticks and then build all the lower resolutions from that high res feed [01:46]
herbijudlestoids so you can see, the distribution of daily returns or, the 10-tick volatility, etc [01:47]
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herbijudlestoids also would like to figure out if there is a diurnal pattern in the assets [01:47]
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herbijudlestoids i cant show you some of the other stuff iv grabbed because i didnt timestamp properly and R wont plot it nicely [01:48]
ThickAsThieves [01:50]
ozbot US government blocks students in Iran, Cuba, and Sudan from taking free online classes | The Verge [01:50]
herbijudlestoids :/ [01:50]
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herbijudlestoids i need to write a script that will take the irc log output and automagic it into appropriately named, quantmod compatible mysql tables [01:58]
herbijudlestoids but after that i can think of all kinds of interesting things to look at [01:58]
herbijudlestoids futures curve, vols, trend, fundamentals, benchmark indices, etc [01:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 11.82985793 BTC to 19`249 shares, 61457 satoshi per share [01:59]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 1.87767096 BTC to 321`519 shares, 584 satoshi per share [02:03]
herbijudlestoids if i had say a year worth of EOD data could scatterplot daily returns against short term vols to see the relationship etc [02:05]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC [02:05]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.54699993 BTC [+] [02:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19322 @ 0.00089744 = 17.3403 BTC [+] {3} [02:18]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 26 @ 0.0056931 = 0.148 BTC [-] {3} [02:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 422 @ 0.00552412 = 2.3312 BTC [-] {15} [02:33]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 78 @ 0.0054 = 0.4212 BTC [-] {2} [02:34]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.5448441 = 1.0897 BTC [+] [02:52]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.54484284 BTC [-] [02:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.54484311 = 2.1794 BTC [+] {4} [02:59]
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mircea_popescu wait, so the guy got scammed ?! [03:20]
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Apocalyptic by the almighty serbian scammer [03:25]
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asciilifeform it takes two to 'scamgo.' [03:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.545 = 2.725 BTC [+] [03:26]
mircea_popescu iiiincredible. [03:26]
mircea_popescu so some dude just made more in half an hour than his room mate makes in a year. [03:27]
mircea_popescu thank you bitcoin community, you are really helping to make the world a better place. [03:27]
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KRS1 does a great job by helping the scum float to the top. [03:31]
mircea_popescu [03:31]
mircea_popescu "thanks for the gf, cya" [03:31]
KRS1 Wonder where they just came home from. [03:32]
herbijudlestoids mircea_popescu: i made a quick graph from the data i logged last night, distribution of tick returns [03:32]
herbijudlestoids dunno if you saw it or not [03:32]
mircea_popescu i hadn't [03:32]
herbijudlestoids interesting skew formation [03:33]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 67 @ 0.5469104 = 36.643 BTC [+] {2} [03:33]
herbijudlestoids not exactly a large sample size [03:33]
herbijudlestoids thats for MPOE [03:33]
mircea_popescu yeah kinda... not much there yet [03:33]
herbijudlestoids i refined some stuff this morning on examining the data and will write some scriptage tonight probly, all thanks to access to free data ;) [03:34]
mircea_popescu :) [03:34]
mircea_popescu who is this guy anyway, is he here ? [03:34]
ozbot Ripped OFF by [03:34]
mircea_popescu kayser soze anyone ? [03:34]
Apocalyptic again some "bitbet scammed me" thread ? [03:35]
kakobrekla not scam as such. [03:35]
mircea_popescu "bitbet scammed me by sending my winnings to the address i paid from as i told it to" [03:36]
mike_c i figured that was one of your sock puppets. those scam threads are good for business :) [03:36]
mircea_popescu i never had sock puppets [03:36]
mircea_popescu i guess by now this is improbable, perhaps i'm the last one, but anyway, mpoe-pr is actually my only forum thing [03:36]
mike_c yeah. i was kidding. except about the good for business part. [03:37]
mircea_popescu i guess the original one was, but i doubt further roflcopter does anything really. [03:38]
mircea_popescu who knows. [03:38]
mircea_popescu sucks this can't really be a/b'd [03:40]
herbijudlestoids lunchtiem [03:47]
herbijudlestoids banh mih for $3.50 :) [03:47]
mircea_popescu i just did the math. the bitbet scammed me dude actually bet... about a dollar, [03:48]
mircea_popescu and lost about 0.7 cents to the low weight. [03:48]
mircea_popescu i wonder if the shills/socks are actually paid less than this to start threads/make posts. [03:48]
mircea_popescu he [03:49]
mircea_popescu s got like > 100 words in there. [03:49]
mircea_popescu the entire fucking forum is worth like fiddy bitcoin at these rates. all 500k threads of it. [03:49]
herbijudlestoids doesnt it say the bet was 0.011BTC? i.e. 0.011 * ~1000 ~= 11USD? or was this when the price was lower, he says it was when th eprice was higher lol [03:50]
mircea_popescu a wait you're right, i had a degree of magnitude off. [03:50]
herbijudlestoids bro u scamd me out of 11USD [03:50]
mircea_popescu he lost 7 cents to the low weight. i guess tis legitimate. [03:50]
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herbijudlestoids most people are shit at betting and will lose their money anyway regardless of scams [03:52]
mircea_popescu some people make out alright [03:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15828 @ 0.00089436 = 14.1559 BTC [-] [03:53]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.028 = 0.168 BTC [-] [04:06]
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kakobrekla [04:18]
kakobrekla there is a lesson somewhere in there [04:20]
kakobrekla and yes, i am reading the fidonet email gateway faq [04:20]
mircea_popescu i regularly throw out bits of software or hardware whose function i don't understand. [04:21]
mircea_popescu not doing so is immoral in my view, so there. [04:22]
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Duffer1 I'm gonna make Hodor coin [04:28]
Duffer1 brb [04:29]
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herbijudlestoids [04:32]
ozbot Swift kicks to the face at the Grammys - Imgur [04:32]
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Duffer1 [04:34]
ozbot Taylor Swift Attacked at Grammys - YouTube [04:34]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i'm curious about the hardware [04:36]
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mircea_popescu of all the various items around me right now, none carry labels, for instance. [04:39]
asciilifeform why would they be labeled? [04:41]
pankkake brands? [04:41]
mircea_popescu i have no idea. [04:42]
mircea_popescu but somehow it became fashionable of late. [04:42]
asciilifeform 'intel inside' and 'designed for winblows' stickers look great on toilet tanks [04:43]
asciilifeform assuming you meant those [04:43]
mircea_popescu i mean everything, really. [04:43]
asciilifeform what's your answer to silkscreened print? 'dremel' ? or belt sander [04:44]
mircea_popescu i don't recall buying silkscreened shit any time recently. [04:45]
asciilifeform e.g. logo on mice, keyboards [04:45]
Duffer1 "In your progress report of November 30th 2013 you stated "We have this last week shipped our first products to customers." - What product was shipped?" [04:46]
Duffer1 Kslaughter: We shipped some accessories products to India. [04:46]
kakobrekla eh who cares for that shit [04:46]
pankkake lol [04:46]
kakobrekla as long as its not hugo boss [04:46]
kakobrekla im talking labels [04:47]
mircea_popescu my kbd came w/o a logo. so did the mouse. [04:47]
kakobrekla my brain ignores it [04:47]
kakobrekla just like i do not see assbot quotes any more [04:47]
kakobrekla they are there, i just dont see them [04:47]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: I find sugar cubes work well removing silkscreen from hard plastics. [04:47]
pankkake keyboard has no logo but I want to replace the win keys by penguins or something. the mouse has a discreet logo… but I've seen the new version, the brand is illuminated :/ [04:48]
mircea_popescu i don't have a win key either. [04:49]
kakobrekla for example, i still have stickers on my lappy, yes they are ugly and yes couldnt care less [04:49]
asciilifeform i know of no decent keyboard with a winblows key [04:50]
mircea_popescu a laptop is another good example, all sorts of shit to excise in there. [04:50]
pankkake hm, you made me realize, I have environmentalist propaganda on my monitor [04:50]
kakobrekla you people are such girls. [04:50]
pankkake asciilifeform: [04:50]
mircea_popescu nou [04:50]
asciilifeform a laptop remains 'satanic' regardless of what one might do to it [04:51]
kakobrekla girls i say. [04:51]
Duffer1 [04:51]
ozbot [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] [04:51]
herbijudlestoids [04:51]
Duffer1 ^ ken's pretty much coming clean [04:51]
asciilifeform pankkake: 'happy hacking kbd' ? [04:51]
asciilifeform has no arrows or f keys either [04:51]
asciilifeform why anyone voluntarily uses those is beyond me [04:51]
mircea_popescu lmao the slaughter lol is still a thing ?! [04:51]
pankkake cheap chinese clone :) [04:51]
herbijudlestoids "Importantly, McNab and Klingberg found that the jump in activity levels in these areas was largest for high capacity individuals and smallest for low capacity individuals. That is, when told that they needed to filter, the high-capacity individuals ramped up activity in these brain regions to keep out irrelevant items. By contrast, the low-capacity individuals showed little additional activity in these areas when [04:51]
Duffer1 it's lulzier than ever MP [04:52]
pankkake the fact that it's still a thing, and that the shareholder let it happen is sad :( [04:52]
mircea_popescu pankkake you need to re-read the log earlier. [04:52]
Duffer1 poor gecko :( [04:52]
mircea_popescu " In September with bitcoins @ 140, with competition with 400 GH/s and 500 GH/s chips our machines would not ROI, so a decision was made that we would have to refund all of our pre-orders, so we did not commit a lot of our funds to building boards, we was also trying to get enough pre-orders to make our minimum lot with eASIC." [04:53]
mircea_popescu the september decision retrospectively made in january. [04:53]
mircea_popescu how did that go, "can't spell = scammer" ? [04:53]
pankkake asciilifeform: I don't like to move my hands, I'd rather use Fn+something. and vim hotkeys make arrow keys redundant [04:53]
kakobrekla hey i cant spell and im not .. a... nvm. [04:53]
Duffer1 i like this bit: Ken mentioned additional hashrate came online in November, what machines were those? [04:53]
Duffer1 CEX.IO [04:53]
pankkake kslaugther makes spelling error and weird Capitalizations [04:54]
pankkake errors [04:54]
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pankkake in his sockpuppets also [04:54]
mircea_popescu well since scammers never die / "investors" are fucktarded, is inaba still a thing too ? [04:54]
pankkake Duffer1: wow at the stuff. that's… wow [04:55]
kakobrekla wait im not following all this [04:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.0489999 = 0.392 BTC [+] [04:55]
kakobrekla its too complicated [04:55]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla speal bettur. [04:55]
Duffer1 oh i'm sure inaba is still making the rounds at bitcoin conferences [04:55]
kakobrekla i cunt. [04:56]
mircea_popescu speaking of. [04:56]
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kakobrekla pankkake why is cex shocking [04:57]
kakobrekla where is the wow [04:57]
pankkake the guy isn't supposed to trade company funds on that kind of stuff [04:57]
pankkake he's supposed to make miners [04:57]
kakobrekla a, that little part. [04:58]
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pankkake it made billions of posts speculating on sample chips and the guy said nothing for months [04:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 300 @ 0.00086 = 0.258 BTC [+] [04:58]
Duffer1 looks like he did what labcoin did, spent ipo money on retail gear to fake progress on their own proprietary stuff, then lied about it, a lot [04:58]
asciilifeform pankkake: no pg-up/down keys either. do you also wear a barrel instead of clothing? [04:58]
mircea_popescu d'oh. [04:58]
kakobrekla so fury got the money on the end. [04:58]
kakobrekla well done [04:59]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform he's french. they evolved past clothing, they just wear their hair. [04:59]
Duffer1 lol [04:59]
pankkake page up/down is a bit frustrating, though for vim and firefox I use other keys [04:59]
pankkake well I am hairy, pretty much a caveman [05:00]
asciilifeform pankkake: you can carry the happyhacking thing to its logical conclusion: [05:01]
asciilifeform [05:01]
ozbot MwEmu [05:01]
asciilifeform 6 keys. [05:01]
pankkake I've been wanting to try similar things [05:01]
pankkake there's also a sort of glove where each finger can move in a direction [05:02]
asciilifeform you can try it right there [05:02]
mircea_popescu should be on left hand [05:02]
mircea_popescu so he can still jack off [05:03]
pankkake I am left handed [05:03]
mircea_popescu a nm then [05:03]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: doug engelbart's original chorder was left-hand. [05:03]
asciilifeform or rather, symmetrical, but intended for left hand. [05:03]
asciilifeform right hand held his (original!) mouse [05:03]
asciilifeform and a kbd in the middle, for times when it couldn't be avoided. [05:04]
asciilifeform [05:04]
asciilifeform full turd here: [05:05]
asciilifeform [05:05]
ozbot Loper OS » Engelbart’s Violin [05:05]
Duffer1 the forums are on fire tonight [05:05]
kakobrekla look, no branding. [05:05]
kakobrekla great for girls. [05:05]
asciilifeform kakobrekla: if i recall, he machined those [05:06]
asciilifeform perhaps true masters ought to make their own i/o devices. [05:06]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SFI] 508 @ 0.00083145 = 0.4224 BTC [-] {2} [05:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00089432 = 17.0815 BTC [-] {2} [05:06]
asciilifeform i would have built my own keyboard long ago, if i had any way to produce the key caps. [05:07]
asciilifeform other components (buckling springs, controller, chassis) can be sourced or laser cut [05:07]
asciilifeform but key caps, afaik, must be injection-molded to be of any usable quality. [05:08]
asciilifeform likewise the shafts in which they move [05:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1100 @ 0.00089423 = 0.9837 BTC [-] [05:08]
kakobrekla cant you scavage them? [05:08]
asciilifeform (tolerance ~0.1mm, like a rifle chamber) [05:08]
asciilifeform if you scavenge, you're stuck with the original key labels [05:09]
asciilifeform and yes, who doesn't own a fat sack full of 'model M' key caps [05:09]
kakobrekla you dont need a fat sack for yourself do you [05:09]
mircea_popescu so hire a secretary, make her type random strings for half a year [05:10]
asciilifeform sure ya do. when one's in the wash. [05:10]
mircea_popescu cheap chinese caps, the paint wears off [05:10]
asciilifeform injection-molded. 1982, still going strong. [05:10]
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asciilifeform the black is the inner plastic. [05:10]
mircea_popescu o those [05:10]
mircea_popescu weird fucking plastic, the white shit too. bachelite or something [05:10]
asciilifeform re: secretary: why would you do that to your springs. [05:11]
asciilifeform if i ever do make a keyboard, i'll probably machine the mechanicals from aluminum. [05:12]
kakobrekla well so you need 2 [05:12]
kakobrekla still not a fat sack [05:12]
asciilifeform if doing something, might as well do it right [05:12]
pankkake found it! [05:12]
ozbot Alternative Keyboard Gallery: DataHand Keyboard [05:12]
mircea_popescu well then machine them from rhenium [05:12]
kakobrekla good for startrek remake [05:12]
mircea_popescu glow in the dark! [05:12]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: you can machine pyrophorics in your kitchen, i'll pass. [05:13]
mircea_popescu :D [05:13]
asciilifeform no room in 'garconierre' for argon tanks. [05:14]
herbijudlestoids [05:15]
ozbot The White house slogan - Imgur [05:15]
mircea_popescu [05:15]
mircea_popescu split ? [05:15]
ozbot [OFFICIAL] first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading [05:15]
mircea_popescu also, check it out : usagi teh hero. [05:17]
pankkake yeah… :| [05:17]
pankkake but still, Deprived disappeared [05:17]
kakobrekla he took with off wit the monies? [05:19]
kakobrekla im so out of the loop. [05:19]
Apocalyptic i'm too [05:19]
mircea_popescu a while back. [05:19]
kakobrekla how much? [05:19]
Apocalyptic I considered him as one of the more legit guys out there [05:19]
Duffer1 he hasn't been since late november [05:20]
kakobrekla i mean [05:20]
kakobrekla how much did he get away with [05:20]
mircea_popescu Apocalyptic so did i, until i offered him i don't remember what and he got all shady and shy. [05:20]
mircea_popescu at which point i stopped. [05:20]
Apocalyptic hum [05:21]
ThickAsThieves i voice-chatted with him once [05:21]
ThickAsThieves cheerful brit [05:21]
ThickAsThieves he had plans for more products [05:22]
kakobrekla somali using britafy app [05:22]
mircea_popescu part of the problem is that all the irresponsible gecko shit going around puts a lot of stress on otherwise honest people, i wager. [05:22]
ThickAsThieves odd he took off [05:22]
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pankkake unless he got hit by a bus [05:22]
ThickAsThieves technically, [05:22]
Duffer1 ya i don't think anyone saw that one coming [05:22]
kakobrekla that bus or? [05:22]
ThickAsThieves he said he wouldnt post til he had something to post [05:22]
ThickAsThieves and nothing has changed yet [05:23]
ThickAsThieves ciphertrade is not open yet, which is where he intended to do biz [05:23]
mircea_popescu what, THAT still a thing ? [05:23]
ThickAsThieves yep [05:23]
kakobrekla but is open [05:23]
Duffer1 he's also on CT board and probably an investor in it [05:23]
kakobrekla he can list there [05:23]
mircea_popescu dude, are these muppets investing in bcst or w/e still ? [05:23]
ThickAsThieves they are in "open beta" [05:23]
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Duffer1 ciphertrade, for better or worse (much worse), is the next batter to step up to the plate [05:25]
kakobrekla link? [05:25]
ThickAsThieves batter, like the kind you put on chicken [05:25]
mircea_popescu lol pancakes! [05:25]
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Duffer1 kako [05:27]
Duffer1 and the discussion thread [05:27]
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kakobrekla and the ops are in merrica rite? [05:28]
Duffer1 london mainly [05:28]
Duffer1 or there abouts [05:28]
kakobrekla at least that. [05:28]
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Apocalyptic hum, they seem to be doing LTC/BTC and XPM/BTC too [05:28]
Dimsler_ lol [05:29]
Duffer1 i believe they plan assets + currency exchange [05:29]
Dimsler_ all these exchanges popping [05:29]
kakobrekla pooping? [05:29]
Apocalyptic ^ [05:29]
Dimsler_ oh yeah those look totally legit [05:29]
Dimsler_ let me send 100btc [05:29]
kakobrekla SEE I CAN SPELL AFTER ALL [05:29]
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Apocalyptic you can turn off caps lock too [05:30]
mircea_popescu * kakobrekla casts a slanderous spell upon the happy investoland [05:30]
Dimsler_ these guys are retards [05:30]
Dimsler_ not using any exchanges based in an OECD country [05:30]
Apocalyptic that's kinda extremist [05:31]
Duffer1 i'm just the messenger, please don't shoot [05:31]
kakobrekla it only works if you belive it mp [05:31]
Dimsler_ yeah talk to some mtgox guys [05:31]
Dimsler_ then [05:31]
ThickAsThieves the deprived mining copycat thing on Havelock appears to be almost open for trading [05:31]
Dimsler_ if you think its extremist [05:31]
mircea_popescu so basically this leaves... romania ? [05:31]
kakobrekla slovenia [05:31]
mircea_popescu japan is in the oecd [05:31]
mircea_popescu slovenia doesn't exist. [05:31]
Dimsler_ lol slovenia is a spit on the map [05:31]
Dimsler_ bunch of clowns who can't get along [05:32]
kakobrekla yeah and kayman islands are twice the size of merrica [05:32]
mircea_popescu see ? kant spell cayman [05:32]
kakobrekla we [05:32]
Dimsler_ well the carribean is all false as well [05:32]
Dimsler_ if you want real security you need something like hongkong [05:32]
mircea_popescu also cant spell vhatewer [05:32]
Dimsler_ where if the US authorities call they hang up the phone [05:33]
mircea_popescu and chinese ? [05:33]
Dimsler_ actually best plac eis probably russia [05:33]
Dimsler_ no extradition treaty [05:33]
Dimsler_ low income tax on high gains [05:33]
kakobrekla no russia, slovenia. [05:33]
Dimsler_ man i'm not going anywhere near yugoslavia [05:34]
Dimsler_ those people are fucked in the head [05:34]
kakobrekla .... [05:34]
mircea_popescu was slovenia in the old yugoslavia ?! [05:34]
Dimsler_ croatia is nice for a coast line vacation [05:34]
kakobrekla was it not!? [05:34]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: things, my company is making them :) [05:34]
asciilifeform detecting VM is very, very easy. [05:34]
Dimsler_ mircea_popescu, you might be confused with slovakia [05:35]
mircea_popescu they're different ?! [05:35]
Dimsler_ lol quit trolling [05:35]
kakobrekla fuck all of you. [05:35]
Dimsler_ slovakia has nice driving roads [05:35]
mircea_popescu Azelphur what exactly are you doing there ? [05:35]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla aww you know we love you [05:36]
Apocalyptic slovakia ftw [05:36]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: title is technical director, basically I do web dev / anything tech I can do, while being a big-ass cash cow. [05:36]
Dimsler_ bitex is a cash cow? [05:36]
Dimsler_ lol [05:36]
mircea_popescu so basicallyh you're being the sucker in this deal. [05:36]
Azelphur no, I am xD [05:36]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: hopefully not ;) [05:37]
mircea_popescu who told that aldur derp that december 2012 qualifies as "long term" ? [05:37]
Dimsler_ listen guys [05:37]
Dimsler_ we nee da new MLM [05:37]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: I've known him way longer [05:37]
Dimsler_ now that everyone forgot about pirate [05:37]
Azelphur we've been friends (irl) for years [05:37]
asciilifeform sucks, easily defeated. [05:37]
mircea_popescu [05:37]
mircea_popescu stupidest first post in history of stupid first posts. [05:37]
mircea_popescu but anyway, gl etc. [05:37]
Dimsler_ lol the bitcoin foundation is dangerous [05:38]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: haha, he's finance not technology :) [05:38]
Dimsler_ i'm worried about the doing something stupid like blacklisting address' [05:38]
Azelphur so he thinks in terms of the financial industry :) [05:38]
Dimsler_ dangerous group of people [05:38]
mircea_popescu Azelphur he's clueless. << srsly ?! [05:38]
asciilifeform Dimsler_: the sooner the phoundation 'shoots itself' in the head, rather than in the foot as usual, the better. [05:38]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: perhaps, but our FPGA engineer isn't (I picked the engineer myself) [05:39]
Dimsler_ well in the end i don't really give a shit what happens in america [05:39]
Dimsler_ since its a small and insignificant place [05:39]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform no, no, its current zombie/laughingstock state is useful. much like the power rangers. [05:39]
mircea_popescu they absorb shocks [05:39]
Dimsler_ lol [05:39]
Dimsler_ well they dragged shrem away [05:39]
Dimsler_ for loundering [05:39]
Dimsler_ er laundering [05:39]
Dimsler_ which the charges themselves are hilarious [05:39]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: can't get much more skilled than this, no? ;) [05:39]
mircea_popescu Azelphur alright, just bear it foremost in your mind that a bunch of people ended up swindled to lend their credence to idiotic nonprojects by random wanna-be "experts" to date. [05:40]
mircea_popescu so don't become another. [05:40]
Dimsler_ oh you guys [05:40]
Dimsler_ i love this new idiot [05:40]
Dimsler_ vitalik [05:40]
Dimsler_ or whatever [05:40]
Dimsler_ the bitcoin magazine clown [05:40]
mircea_popescu he's by no means new. [05:40]
Dimsler_ well in 2012 he was buying btc off my exchange [05:40]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: yea, I realise that, and it's something I worry about, but I am heavily involved, and I have sunk a lot of time and money into it [05:40]
ThickAsThieves he's not an idiot, he's a "hacker" [05:40]
Dimsler_ lol hes new to me [05:40]
mircea_popescu Azelphur these are not considerations. [05:40]
Dimsler_ vitalik is a moron [05:40]
Azelphur so hopefully all will go well :) [05:40]
Dimsler_ that has no idea about economics or cryptography [05:41]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: oh, you know we already have functional hardware right? :P [05:41]
Dimsler_ Azelphur, take your fucking scam else where [05:41]
mircea_popescu that's fine, but the amount of time/effort sunk into anything has no bearing. you drop a hand of cards when you know they can't win, not when you're comfortable with how much you threw into the pot. [05:41]
kakobrekla that dude has "webdev" on his linkedin. -10 internet points. [05:41]
mircea_popescu Dimsler_ what's with you anyway [05:41]
Apocalyptic Dimsler_, [05:41]
Apocalyptic his new project [05:41]
Dimsler_ lol sorry [05:41]
Dimsler_ i'm hating today [05:41]
kakobrekla Dimsler_ serbia is hating back [05:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 25 @ 0.004072 = 0.1018 BTC [-] {3} [05:42]
ThickAsThieves there'll never be a bitcoin 2.0 because all the cries of wolf [05:42]
Dimsler_ i saw the ethereum project, its got more holes then the block of swiss cheese in my fridge [05:42]
mircea_popescu o so i get it now, slovenia is not slovakia because it is in fact the other name for serbia ? [05:42]
Azelphur Dimsler_: haha, with my otc rep, it'd have to be one hell of a long con [05:42]
Apocalyptic ^ [05:42]
Dimsler_ i could use a vacation in croatia [05:43]
kakobrekla is this how is going to end? country trolling? [05:43]
mircea_popescu Azelphur that's not the point, the point is that you wouldn't be the first guy used for his rep. [05:43]
Dimsler_ the french riveria got expensive lately [05:43]
Dimsler_ cause the euro got raped [05:43]
Dimsler_ er [05:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15833 @ 0.00089401 = 14.1549 BTC [-] {2} [05:43]
Dimsler_ usd to euro rape [05:43]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: yea, I agree, it's a risk. [05:43]
mircea_popescu anyway. [05:43]
asciilifeform altera cyclone V GX [05:43]
Dimsler_ Azelphur, list on mpex so we can pump and dump it? [05:43]
asciilifeform max ALUs - 113,560 [05:43]
Azelphur Dimsler_: haha :) [05:44]
asciilifeform max clock: 550MHz [05:44]
asciilifeform [05:44]
asciilifeform tell us again about 10GH/sec SHA256. [05:44]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: I reckon we'll do fine though, at the end of the day we have the thing and it's hashing right now, so we've already won really [05:44]
Azelphur even if 0 preorders and nobody buys, we'll just mine on it and laugh. [05:44]
Dimsler_ why don't you just mine on it now [05:45]
mircea_popescu so if you already have the thing and it hashes why is your "finance industry" pal posting stuff david thorpe designed ? [05:45]
Azelphur Dimsler_: we are [05:45]
mircea_popescu thorne* [05:46]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: posting pictures of an altera dev kit is hardly amazing/interesting [05:46]
assbot AMAZING COMPANY! [05:46]
kakobrekla ^^ [05:46]
kakobrekla assbot has it [05:46]
asciilifeform speaking of which, [05:46]
asciilifeform [05:46]
mircea_popescu according to who, the finance industry ? cmon. [05:46]
Azelphur but you do have a point, I could get our FPGA guy to post some stuff [05:46]
Azelphur yea, I'll bug him about it :P [05:46]
asciilifeform $180. [05:46]
mircea_popescu anything is better than a 640px wide picture of six green lines [05:46]
asciilifeform for anyone who has these same fit-ten-pounds-of-shit-in-a-five-pound-bag skillz. [05:46]
mircea_popescu Azelphur so your product you've won with is a fpga ?! [05:47]
asciilifeform 'those who refuse to do arithmetic are doomed to talk nonsense.' [05:47]
kakobrekla 100 btc aint gonna make asics [05:47]
kakobrekla not yet at least. [05:47]
Dimsler_ lol [05:47]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: seems so, ain't many decent FPGAs out there for altcoins [05:47]
Azelphur seemed like a good niche [05:48]
mircea_popescu aha. [05:48]
Dimsler_ alt coins suck [05:48]
Dimsler_ theres no prize for second place ok [05:48]
Dimsler_ charles lee knows this first hand [05:48]
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Azelphur mircea_popescu: and hopefully won't get me thrown in jail, haha [05:48]
mircea_popescu Dimsler_ actually miners may make a buck out of all the retarded kids who think a bigger number of coins is better. [05:48]
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* Azelphur wishes he was born in romania so he could do cool things [05:48]
Dimsler_ mmm 81 million litecoins [05:48]
Dimsler_ must have cryptocurrncy with billions of coins [05:49]
mircea_popescu then they can get scammed out of fiddy billion coins at a time instead of .5 [05:49]
Duffer1 azelphur so your target is sha256 altcoin miners? [05:50]
Azelphur Duffer1: hell no, the sha256 is mostly for shits and giggles [05:50]
Azelphur the main targets are scrypt and prime [05:50]
Duffer1 BitEx M2 coin? [05:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.59993737 = 4.7995 BTC [+] {4} [05:51]
kakobrekla azelphur so your target is sha256 altcoin miners? [05:51]
kakobrekla all sha alts can be mined on asic afaik [05:51]
Dimsler_ alt currencies = modern day boiler room [05:51]
Dimsler_ like i get satoshi premining himself the 1mil in coins [05:51]
Dimsler_ because he deserved something for the smart scheme [05:52]
Duffer1 ya kako lol that's what i was trying to point out :P [05:52]
Dimsler_ but charles lee is just a fag that offers nothing [05:52]
mircea_popescu Dimsler_ he didn't even premine it. [05:52]
Dimsler_ same applies to the rest of the crypto alt clowns premining themselves coins [05:52]
Dimsler_ yeah i know [05:52]
Dimsler_ lol [05:52]
Azelphur Duffer1: our number theory guy really wanted to try his hand at a new alt :) [05:52]
Azelphur and baring in mind he's pretty much perfectly qualified (number theory / fpga) it'll be interesting to see what he comes up with [05:53]
Duffer1 tell him to be honest with himself and just name it Hodor Coin [05:53]
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Azelphur :P [05:53]
Dimsler_ lol new alt [05:53]
Azelphur I can probably drag him in here, if ya'll are interested. [05:53]
Dimsler_ no [05:53]
Duffer1 that would be fascinating [05:53]
Dimsler_ no it would not quit trolling the guy [05:54]
Azelphur lol [05:54]
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Duffer1 what's the six month plan for bitex? [05:55]
Dimsler_ its the i'll take all your money and in six months i'll be gone plan [05:55]
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asciilifeform recipe for those disinclined to be chumped: 1) read published (3 yrs +) verilog src for sha256. 2) build. 3) see minimum gate count for unrolled hasher 4) laugh [05:56]
Apocalyptic seriously Dimsler_ wtf [05:56]
asciilifeform and this is the ideal figure - does not include memory controller, scrypt crap... [05:57]
Azelphur Duffer1: get the FPGAs out, work on new cores, we're also thinking of doing some bitcoin commerce [05:58]
Azelphur Dimsler_: would be hard considering there's no way to give us your money yet ;) [05:58]
kakobrekla its like all in one shaman stop [05:59]
Duffer1 bitcoin commerce? [05:59]
Dimsler_ kakobrekla, lol [05:59]
Azelphur Duffer1: yea, ie setting up a reasonably well stocked computer store [06:00]
Azelphur there doesn't seem to be anyone doing that in UK [06:00]
Dimsler_ now a computer store? [06:00]
Dimsler_ honestly great buisness plan [06:00]
Apocalyptic "this will be our temporary home while we setup our IRC server", Azelphur why would you setup your own IRC server for 1 channel ? [06:01]
Azelphur that's one of my things I'd like to work on in the future, he asked for the 6 month plan, which goes beyond the FPGA ;) [06:01]
Azelphur Apocalyptic: that'd be Oliver not listening to me again when I told him no IRC server [06:01]
Azelphur he fails at listening sometimes :( [06:01]
Apocalyptic sounds like a waste of time to setup and manage it [06:01]
Azelphur yup [06:02]
Azelphur and an annoyance to the users [06:02]
Azelphur it won't happen, it'll stay on freenode :P [06:02]
Duffer1 freenode4life [06:02]
Azelphur ^ [06:02]
Apocalyptic *4lyfe [06:02]
Dimsler_ lol [06:02]
Dimsler_ goo efnet [06:02]
Dimsler_ Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. [06:04]
Dimsler_ - Mark Twain [06:04]
Duffer1 dimsler_ what's your exchange? [06:04]
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Dimsler_ i run a locablbitcoins one [06:05]
Duffer1 ah [06:06]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla lol [13:28]
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Namworld I think I sent an email inquiring about advertising on Bitbet a few months ago. Don't think I ever got an answer on that, come to think of it. [13:39]
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mircea_popescu Namworld that'd be the first time kakobrekla missed one. [14:44]
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mircea_popescu << anyone saw this ? [14:58]
ozbot paracoin [14:58]
ThickAsThieves note that google Sites allow an exploit to autofill hidden forms [15:04]
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mircea_popescu if you run js. [15:06]
ThickAsThieves i dunno, something to do with keychain apps [15:08]
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mircea_popescu you mean last year's chrome vuln ? [15:10]
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ThickAsThieves no, the keychain app sees "" in the url, and autofills the hidden form, then youre fed a poll or some such other "submit" button [15:13]
ThickAsThieves i may be getting the details wrong but that's the gist of it [15:14]
mircea_popescu aha [15:14]
ThickAsThieves not sure why paracoin is using goxprice tho [15:18]
ThickAsThieves isnt it time to finally cut the cord? [15:19]
mircea_popescu cause tvconf is a stubborn self-deluding old timer and etc. [15:19]
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mircea_popescu << mpoe-pr, aka cold ownage. [15:29]
ozbot Throw Charlie under the bus and wash your hands clean of your biggest advocate [15:29]
assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 500 @ 0.00166114 = 0.8306 BTC [-] [15:30]
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ThickAsThieves what a retarded thread [15:34]
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ThickAsThieves some community... [15:35]
Duffer1 i thought the luls were over for the night so i tried to sleep [15:36]
Duffer1 couldn't sleep, now more luls [15:36]
mircea_popescu welcome to bitcoin, where the luls never cease. [15:36]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves it's taaki's thread. what else'd it be [15:36]
Neil mircea_popescu: Likely it's been mentioned but bitbet is ~15 hrs behind the blockchain [15:37]
ThickAsThieves ah i was trying to suss who was taaki [15:37]
ThickAsThieves never knew his forum handle [15:37]
mircea_popescu it has ? [15:37]
mircea_popescu onoes. kakobrekla ! we're split! [15:38]
ThickAsThieves bet No on all the bets! [15:38]
mircea_popescu poor kako, prolly went to get his 13 hours of sleep this month [15:38]
mircea_popescu result ? Last block: 13 hours 42 minutes ago [15:38]
ThickAsThieves taaki is just jealous he had no friends to throw him under a bus, and no bus headed in is direction [15:39]
Neil I don't think bitbet gives bettors their true time when it falls behind like this... which is kinda unfair [15:40]
mircea_popescu Neil i think it goes by block times [15:40]
ThickAsThieves if youre betting 15hours before close, youre probly doing it wrong [15:40]
mircea_popescu suppose you bet now. bitbet doesn't know. [15:40]
Neil mircea_popescu: I'm 90% sure it doesn't... [15:40]
mircea_popescu once the demon restarts and it discovers your bet, it takes the blockstam time. [15:41]
mircea_popescu o you are ? [15:41]
mircea_popescu well then thanks for bringing it up, shall be checked [15:41]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves no but losing 15 hours of weight for no apparent reason hurts across the board [15:41]
ThickAsThieves word [15:42]
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mircea_popescu anyway, genjix used to think himself important, back when bitcoin consisted of me, some decent programmers which mostly meanwhile left, and a bunch of fucktards, just like him [15:42]
mircea_popescu he felt like he's friends with "all of bitcoin", a few exceptions notwithstanding. [15:42]
Duffer1 [15:43]
ozbot Penis Will Make You Slap Somebody (must see) - YouTube [15:43]
mircea_popescu meanwhile things like interscamgo have been laughed out of the space, and all he's left with is his expertise, which... you know. standup comedyt [15:43]
ThickAsThieves UK picks Open Document Format for all government files [15:43]
Namworld ... [15:43]
Namworld Okay, I'll say it. Who's genjix? [15:44]
ThickAsThieves next headline will be: Oracle Buys OpenOffice [15:44]
mircea_popescu ;;google amir taaki wikipedia [15:44]
gribble Amir Taaki - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Amir Taaki Interview and #Bitcoin 2013 Wrap Up | Jupiter ...: ; Amir Taaki Answers Your Questions About Bitcoin - Slashdot: [15:44]
ThickAsThieves he has a wiki [15:44]
ThickAsThieves hehe [15:44]
Namworld Ah, Amir [15:44]
ThickAsThieves he's Scottish-English Iranian [15:45]
mircea_popescu it's better than any uncyclopedia. [15:45]
ThickAsThieves he got kicked out of high school for hacking [15:45]
mircea_popescu aww shit, they ditched the sasquatch pic. [15:45]
mircea_popescu anyone know how to navigate wikipedia history ? [15:46]
Namworld ok, I'm out. It's 8 am. It's late. [15:47]
ThickAsThieves click View History [15:47]
ThickAsThieves ;) [15:47]
ThickAsThieves top right [15:47]
ThickAsThieves "You may be right, but you can't add negative information about living people to articles unless you have a high-quality source. Internet forums do not meet our definition of the term" [15:49]
ThickAsThieves "But it's allowed for positive information? " [15:49]
ThickAsThieves lol [15:49]
truffles -assets seems to dislike ppl i like woot [15:50]
mircea_popescu makes sense tho, if you didn't let random doofus self-report all the nice stuff they think about themselves [15:50]
mircea_popescu the butthurt would cover wikipedia. [15:50]
mircea_popescu truffles that's because you're an idiot. [15:50]
truffles umk [15:50]
truffles ure a small dick [15:50]
ThickAsThieves oh no he ditnt! [15:51]
davout tumbleweed.wav [15:51]
mircea_popescu it's not that small. [15:51]
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truffles well it might as well be [15:51]
truffles u try so hard to be the big dick though [15:51]
mircea_popescu [15:51]
mircea_popescu ty tat. [15:52]
mircea_popescu ;;google trilema pula mea [15:52]
gribble The reasons why Bitcoin securities can't be regulated by ... - Trilema: ; Wilcoxon tests for mean difference - Deakin University: ; Stabilization Effects of Fiscal Policy in Croatia: [15:52]
mircea_popescu google u sux. [15:52]
mircea_popescu [15:52]
ozbot NSFW - Pula mea pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [15:52]
truffles blog spam [15:52]
ThickAsThieves so what is Bitcoin Foundation's next move after resigning Shrem? [15:53]
mircea_popescu it makes a c0k big! [15:53]
ThickAsThieves something to help it's image right? [15:53]
ThickAsThieves “We are now witnessing the long-awaited arrival of mainstream online casinos into the bitcoin universe.”~Matonis [15:53]
mircea_popescu derp. [15:53]
ThickAsThieves [15:53]
mircea_popescu i would bet the next move is some internal drama with someone leaving in a huff. [15:53]
mircea_popescu at least that's how it ususally works. [15:53]
mircea_popescu "He proposes a shift away from specialist thinking towards a creative society of generalist knowledge workers." [15:54]
BingoBoingo Maybe they will find out Vesseness has a bong? or Hearn? [15:54]
mircea_popescu ahahaa o gawdy, that wikipedia article rules. [15:54]
mircea_popescu Derplandia! An Utopian Future! by A. A. Fucktardaki [15:55]
ThickAsThieves a society of clay pot IPOs [15:55]
ThickAsThieves “We are not here to engage in a legal debate, we are here to serve up the very first legitimate workaround to the complex online gambling laws in this US market. We are returning to Americans their freedom to choose and giving them their power back!” [15:55]
mircea_popescu i wish this happened, seriously. if you could somehow get all the 20something derps their own fucking country... [15:55]
mircea_popescu god it would be so great. [15:55]
mircea_popescu in a decade or so we'd go on bimbo safari! [15:55]
truffles 20something men everywhere [15:56]
truffles sounds like a grand idead [15:56]
mircea_popescu men no, but bois and retarded girls, pretty much. [15:56]
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punkman1 mircea_popescu: you just need to build a big boat, they'll come willingly [15:57]
truffles lol [15:57]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves "and we are conveniently forgetting to mention the other people who have been doing it for years and have much more volume than we everf had even in fiat" [15:57]
mircea_popescu "because business can in fact be built upon self-delusion!" [15:57]
mircea_popescu punkman1 yeah, but the problem is their parents wouldn't stay put. [15:58]
mircea_popescu which is kind-of sad, really. [15:58]
ThickAsThieves i like how he defines We Wanna Break the Law as "engage a legal debate" [15:58]
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mircea_popescu afaik it's not actually illegal, is it ? [15:58]
ThickAsThieves in the US? [15:59]
mircea_popescu yeah. [15:59]
ThickAsThieves if it isnt it will be [15:59]
truffles TAT are u still with "the foundation"? [15:59]
ThickAsThieves i was never a part [15:59]
mircea_popescu wasn't it illegal to process payments ? [15:59]
truffles oh [15:59]
ThickAsThieves i contemplating joining one day [15:59]
ThickAsThieves then i didnt [15:59]
mircea_popescu one more can of paint you avoided stepping into. [16:00]
ThickAsThieves both feet are occupied anyway :) [16:00]
mircea_popescu lol [16:00]
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ThickAsThieves so if I understand correctly, Cointerra is finally shipping. the 2nd batch of customers getting units along with the 1st batch. The machines are not to spec, but customers get a 15% coupon to buy more of them, as consolation. Refunds in fiat are allowed. [16:14]
mircea_popescu that's pretty stellar considering the industry standards. [16:14]
ThickAsThieves now that newegg and tigerdirect are selling bitcoin mining kits [16:15]
ThickAsThieves it seems a major manufacturer must be contemplating an ASIC soon [16:16]
mircea_popescu probably. [16:17]
mircea_popescu hopefully nvidia does it. [16:17]
ThickAsThieves they may be on a short leash for innovating after these portable gaming things fail [16:17]
Namworld Nvidia... miner... [16:18]
Duffer1 i could see nvidia sha vs amd scrypt [16:18]
mircea_popescu manufacture a billion dollar's worth of 100 and 500 watt mining rigs, as stand alone boxes, doing whatever, 5 gh/watt, 2gh/dollar [16:18]
Namworld Nvidia Bitcoin Miner... [16:18]
mircea_popescu they have the foundries and the engineers to do it. [16:18]
Namworld Well one of them is bound to do it eventually [16:18]
ThickAsThieves Intel could do 14nm or such [16:18]
mircea_popescu amd, nvidia, intel, they can all do it. [16:19]
Namworld I mean, the piles of cash thrown at any random new user claiming to be developing an ASIC [16:19]
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mircea_popescu even apple or amazon could do it, if they weren't fucktarded. [16:19]
ThickAsThieves or Samsung [16:19]
punkman why not AMD? [16:19]
mircea_popescu yeah, at least a dozen diff south korean/japanese/hk/etc producers could do it too [16:19]
ThickAsThieves AMD is most likely imo [16:20]
mircea_popescu punkman i said AMD! [16:20]
punkman oh I saw nvidia only [16:20]
mircea_popescu unrelatedly : if any one was wondering if a wedding was ever made with the bridemaids in the buff : yes, it has. [16:20]
ThickAsThieves AMD didnt find a safe harbor in mobile [16:20]
ThickAsThieves they need another avenue [16:20]
asciilifeform if they weren't fucktarded, they'd do it 1) two years ago 2) embedded in run of unrelated IC, antifused out in consumer ver. 3) powered up silently 4) ip-proxied to look like 100,000 lamers with GPUs. [16:20]
wao-ender mm [16:20]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform no they wouldn't do that. [16:21]
wao-ender mircea_popescu: seems you have very intelligent police there [16:21]
Namworld looks like a fun wedding [16:21]
wao-ender Politia is romanian afaik? [16:21]
mircea_popescu politia, yes. [16:21]
mircea_popescu can you summarize the vid ? [16:21]
wao-ender they can't open doors for 13 minutes. [16:22]
mircea_popescu lol [16:22]
wao-ender imho it should be great ad for vendor of secure doors. [16:22]
mircea_popescu romanian folklore/jokes usually has the cop as the dummy. [16:22]
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wao-ender [AD] This door will resists Politia for 13 minutes! [16:23]
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asciilifeform speaking of which [16:23]
asciilifeform [16:23]
ozbot The Domestic Surveillance Directorate [16:24]
ThickAsThieves [16:24]
ozbot New 3D Printer by MarkForged Can Print With Carbon Fiber - Popular Mechanics [16:24]
mircea_popescu o wow. [16:24]
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ThickAsThieves ideal for weapons, no? [16:24]
Namworld Finally, a printer suitable for those weapons 3d printing blueprint [16:25]
ThickAsThieves "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear." [16:25]
asciilifeform let's have /him/ fire with a barrel 'as strong as aluminum', we'll watch. [16:25]
punkman is Cody Wilson still doing the 3d-printed gun thing, or is it just Dark Wallets for him now [16:26]
mircea_popescu probably just reefer for him now. [16:26]
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mircea_popescu aluminium is not really that strong, is it ? [16:27]
mircea_popescu did he mean duraluminium ? [16:27]
punkman there's strong aluminum [16:27]
Namworld Imma print myselft a carbon dane axe and a viking helmet (an historically accurate one without horns) [16:27]
Namworld Because fuck guns actually [16:27]
ThickAsThieves throwing stars and darts for me plz [16:27]
mircea_popescu i'll just order dildoes [16:28]
mircea_popescu because fuck your wooden horses [16:28]
asciilifeform working temperature of printer extruder. max temperature of chamber during firing. [16:28]
ThickAsThieves carbon fiber nunchuks! [16:30]
asciilifeform seriously, get a desktop CNC mill. it will make anything from a halberg to a schmeisser. [16:30]
kakobrekla Namworld, huh? can you tell me which email did you send from. i remember us talking via irc and i dont ignore emails. [16:30]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform but not by itself. [16:30]
Namworld "It even has a higher strength-to-weight ratio than CNC-machined aluminum." [16:30]
Namworld My god... [16:30]
Namworld One could do many things with such a printer [16:30]
Namworld I'm not sure kakobrekla [16:31]
Namworld I'm heading off. Doesn't matter for now anyway. [16:31]
Namworld Scrat hasn't been around in a while. [16:31]
ThickAsThieves impenetrable fortune cookies! [16:31]
Namworld Goodbye. [16:31]
Namworld TaT... that's a dickish prank. [16:32]
Namworld I like it. [16:32]
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ThickAsThieves road spikes [16:33]
Duffer1 you could just use a drill in a wood frame for desktop needs [16:33]
ThickAsThieves there's some fun [16:33]
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Duffer1 or a dremel [16:33]
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kakobrekla poor kako, prolly went to get his 13 hours of sleep this month [16:48]
kakobrekla result ? Last block: 13 hours 42 minutes ago [16:48]
kakobrekla cause im doing it on hand. [16:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.598 BTC [-] [16:50]
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mircea_popescu lol [16:53]
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jurov ;;bc,tslb [17:17]
gribble Error: "bc,tslb" is not a valid command. [17:17]
jurov ;;tslb [17:17]
gribble Time since last block: 57 seconds [17:17]
jurov ;;bc,stats [17:17]
gribble Current Blocks: 283212 | Current Difficulty: 2.193847870174279E9 | Next Difficulty At Block: 284255 | Next Difficulty In: 1043 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 17 hours, 29 minutes, and 48 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 2440229238.49 | Estimated Percent Change: 11.23056 [17:17]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 254 @ 0.00271007 = 0.6884 BTC [-] {4} [17:25]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 548 @ 0.00271002 = 1.4851 BTC [-] {4} [17:26]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 847 @ 0.002701 = 2.2877 BTC [-] [17:27]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 55 @ 0.00270101 = 0.1486 BTC [+] {2} [17:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00007266 = 0.1453 BTC [-] {4} [17:31]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.62479999 = 1.2496 BTC [+] [17:33]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 40 @ 0.049 = 1.96 BTC [+] [17:41]
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nubbins` hi [17:41]
kakobrekla hi [17:41]
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nubbins` i'm 32 today :0 [17:42]
kakobrekla congrats [17:42]
kakobrekla many didnt make it this far. [17:42]
nubbins` i was about to say "no need, all i did was not die" [17:42]
asciilifeform happy bday nubbins` [17:42]
nubbins` but you've got a point :( [17:43]
kakobrekla hehe [17:43]
nubbins` tyvm [17:43]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 10 @ 0.02947999 = 0.2948 BTC [+] {5} [17:48]
mircea_popescu sooo... obama to congress "you're fired". congress gives standing ovation. [17:49]
mircea_popescu that country is turning into the fucking bitcointalk of politics, i swear. [17:49]
mircea_popescu mostly notable for the comedic relief. [17:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00089908 = 6.0238 BTC [+] [17:53]
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mircea_popescu [17:56]
ozbot NYDFS Department of Financial Services live meeting on the 28th (today?) and 29 - [17:56]
mircea_popescu if someone still wanted a transcript of the dfs retardation. [17:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.02989915 = 0.1196 BTC [+] {2} [17:58]
BingoBoingo Oh, so much missing from that paste. [17:58]
mircea_popescu well yes, it's only a few pages. [18:00]
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BingoBoingo Doesn't even cover the interesting points. Doesn't even seem to make it past to the first pannel to get to the LTC and VanCleef woman going full Amir [18:07]
mircea_popescu well... got a full transcript anywhere ? [18:07]
BingoBoingo I've got a bunch of notes on notebook paper I'll prolly move online next week. Going to watch the hearings again to make sure nothing especially lulzy was missed. [18:09]
mircea_popescu well you know, if you're gonna do a complete one do a complete one [18:10]
BingoBoingo [18:10]
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mircea_popescu that's not a transcript tho, just the collection of written matter submitted. [18:11]
BingoBoingo has most of the prepared statements now. Looks like to get a full one for the questions, or at lest the interesting questions I might have to make it [18:11]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Here's the lulziest of the prepared statements (was read verbatim) [18:12]
BingoBoingo I'll paste it as plaintext [18:12]
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BingoBoingo [18:14]
ozbot dpaste: #1577206 [18:14]
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polac hello i ahve a question please [18:27]
polac have* [18:27]
mircea_popescu wait, VanCleef was the
e !?
mircea_popescu polac shoot [18:27]
polac thanks [18:28]
polac mircea popescu? [18:28]
polac bot or human [18:28]
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polac this is the oficcial acnel for bitbet? [18:29]
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BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Dunno if it IRC VanClef, but it was the girl's name [18:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.62479997 = 3.124 BTC [-] {2} [18:33]
polac some one eee [18:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.62497777 = 5.6248 BTC [+] {3} [18:34]
BingoBoingo polac this seems to be the best channel for bitbet [18:36]
polac ok i have some questions but i dont see lot of activity here [18:37]
BingoBoingo What I don't get about the tesitfying Van Cleef is instead of Bitcoin they wanted to discuss: [18:37]
BingoBoingo "a company called COEPTIS is preparing to launch the Global Standard System (System) that will issue a medium of exchange called the Global Standard Currency (Currency). This Currency, which will circulate electronically on a closed settlement platform, will be 100% backed by physical gold, providing for freedom from default and fully protecting the holder’s value." [18:37]
Troic_ polac, it will come (the activity) or you can just ask, perhaps someone else knows the answer. [18:37]
BingoBoingo polac: IRC is a slow medium. Put forward the questions and someone should get to them within an hour or day or so [18:37]
mircea_popescu polac yes it is. [18:39]
mircea_popescu that's the first time someone wanted to know if im a bot ;/ [18:40]
chetty you aren't? [18:40]
deadweasel it's pretty obvious he is. [18:40]
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assbot his AI is almost as good as mine [18:41]
deadweasel well, he's your bot, assbot [18:41]
jurov rofl [18:41]
deadweasel AI making AI, what has the world come to?! [18:41]
polac ok is related a bet on . if i make a BET that is obvius that will win.. .. how i know how much BTC i will get on reward how i make the calc [18:42]
jurov polac have you noticed there is a calculator? [18:42]
polac is this BET . that left 7 hours .. to end [18:42]
polac [18:42]
jurov right on the bet page [18:42]
ozbot BitBet - Bitcoin Market Capitalization to be above 4.5 billion USD on Feb 1st [18:42]
polac yes i know that is a calculator. but i dont know if is the clean amount or total amount [18:43]
polac here stas say if i put 1 btc i get ---Yes pays: 0.9904118 BTC ----- No pays: 1.04474976 BTC [18:43]
polac so if i put 1 btc i get 0.99 + 1 btc investment i get total 1.99 ? [18:44]
BingoBoingo polac: You'd get 0.99 total because of betting so late. [18:44]
polac so how much i get? bcz calculators say i get 0.99 [18:44]
polac how much i can get that is what i wanna know [18:44]
jurov 0.99btc [18:45]
BingoBoingo polac: That's what you'd get. Betting 1.0 BTC would return to you a total of 0.99 BTC [18:45]
polac so intstad of win i loss [18:45]
polac 0.1 btc? [18:45]
BingoBoingo polac: 0.01 BTC, but yes. Because it is a sure thing. [18:46]
polac i undersatnd now so the calculator say the total profit i get included the . amount of the bet i pplace + profit? [18:46]
deadweasel polac, minus your late betting [18:46]
deadweasel meaning you're too late to make money on this bet if you bet yes and win. [18:47]
deadweasel you should probabgly wait until the betting is closed, and place it then. [18:47]
deadweasel it seems to work out well for people. [18:47]
deadweasel they learn LOADS [18:47]
jurov in other words, the weight of your bet is less than bitbet fee [18:47]
polac another question iwhen i put the (Send winnings to originating address) i dont need to do nothing more. will be automatly send to the wallet from the money come from [18:48]
polac ok so its only good when the weight its high? [18:48]
jurov yes, that's the principle, bet early, get more [18:49]
kakobrekla get a better rate [18:49]
kakobrekla yeah [18:49]
kakobrekla i dont understand the last question re sending winning to originating address [18:50]
mircea_popescu so how much i get? bcz calculators say i get 0.99 << you get exacty what it says, 0.99 [18:51]
mircea_popescu deadweasel evil boy! [18:51]
mircea_popescu polac IF you run a full node wallet, then yes you control the address, and so will be ok. [18:52]
jurov polac: you need a wallet that contains actual private keys (such as bitcoin-qt/multibit/electrum) [18:52]
mircea_popescu if however you do not run a full node, then you will be in trouble most likely. [18:52]
mircea_popescu use a special address to receive. [18:52]
kakobrekla well, wallet is client side rite, so that should work too [18:52]
polac i use.. electrum client [18:52]
polac its ok? [18:52]
jurov yes, with electrum you'll be fine with sending to originating address [18:53]
mircea_popescu just make sure you don't delete it/lose that wallet in the meanwhile. [18:53]
kakobrekla the bad thing about using same address is that you lose stats [18:53]
kakobrekla unless you send from same one each time [18:53]
mircea_popescu well maybe to him it's a good thing [18:54]
kakobrekla i gues [18:54]
kakobrekla s [18:54]
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mircea_popescu [18:54]
ozbot Italy shocked at Mafia's fatal hit of 3-year-old boy - Washington Times [18:54]
mircea_popescu The boy, Nicola “Coco” Campolongo, age 3, was shot along with his grandfather, Giuseppe Iannicelli, and his grandfather’s companion, age 27, CNN reported. [18:55]
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mircea_popescu gotta love the fucktarded press. "unprecedented" ? these people have perhaps not seen... i dunno, the godfather ? [18:57]
mircea_popescu fucking trilogy debuts by kids being killed. [18:57]
deadweasel polac: be sure your bet will make it on-time. check for slow transactions, include a transaction fee. [18:59]
deadweasel and don't bet more than you can stand to lose. it's gambling, not investing. [18:59]
polac that is the trick on bitbet.i [18:59]
kakobrekla also check in bitbet footer if the last block was 14 hrs ago [18:59]
polac us [18:59]
deadweasel also the same goes for investing [18:59]
polac fee shouldbee deduce automatic [18:59]
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deadweasel you should be deduced automatically [18:59]
polac its better .. trading i think [19:00]
polac pay outs are very small [19:00]
deadweasel not if you're early on the correct side of a bet. [19:00]
polac somes of you have won a bet lately [19:01]
kakobrekla its fairly easy to do 0 fee tx which will always get included in the first found block [19:01]
deadweasel that might require reading a document! [19:03]
kakobrekla or i can tell you how its done [19:03]
deadweasel nah [19:06]
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mircea_popescu polac [19:07]
mircea_popescu yes, some people won some bets recently. [19:07]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.24310363 = 2.431 BTC [19:07]
polac 16-12-13 19:19 Yes 63`178 1.00000000 13ZmZ 1.17699815 [19:07]
polac 1 b tc.. bet and get .0.17 in 2 months common [19:08]
polac trading that btc just 1.. you can get it in 2 or 2.5 btc in 2 monhts [19:08]
mircea_popescu there was a guy who got 0.4 BTC trading 200 ltc in twenty minutes yesterday [19:08]
ThickAsThieves huh? [19:08]
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ThickAsThieves lol [19:09]
ThickAsThieves polac, will you be naming ALL the ways one can increase their coins? [19:09]
ThickAsThieves then we can exhaustively paint them against betting [19:09]
ThickAsThieves or we could save the time and send you to just-dice [19:10]
mircea_popescu but the question is valid, ik wonder what's the best return on a bet on bitbet so far [19:12]
ThickAsThieves probly the guys who took my 50btc [19:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 8 @ 0.0485 = 0.388 BTC [-] [19:12]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla mind running a coupla queries ? [19:12]
ThickAsThieves in dollars, probly the 2bn bet, in bitcoins, probly a BFL bet? [19:13]
mircea_popescu in bitcoin ofc. [19:13]
kakobrekla well, i gotta take my gf out for a walk nao but when i get back sure [19:13]
mircea_popescu << mwahaha [19:13]
ozbot The Emerging Bitcoin Civil War [19:14]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla lol that sounded pretty hot. take pics. [19:14]
kakobrekla lol. [19:14]
benkay so guys when my shitty corner of the world falls apart how do i stay hooked into the btc transaction network? [19:16]
benkay how, long term, do i keep computers that can broadcast transactions running? [19:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC [19:17]
mircea_popescu can't you just move like everyone else ? [19:19]
benkay there's a bet in there! [19:20]
benkay on one side, that internet and computers never return to this area [19:20]
benkay on the other that they do [19:20]
ThickAsThieves just use a secret/encrypted channe; [19:20]
ThickAsThieves l [19:20]
benkay USA: the next africa? [19:20]
ThickAsThieves not in our lifetime [19:20]
mircea_popescu it's probably going to be illegal to use encryption in the us soon enough [19:20]
mircea_popescu (real encryption. you'll have to use apple/google/ms/w/e) [19:21]
ThickAsThieves maybe you are right [19:21]
ThickAsThieves if the NSA motto is "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear"... [19:21]
mircea_popescu it's already illegal to use encryption in the uk. [19:21]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 1 @ 0.24310363 BTC [19:21]
mircea_popescu meanwhile my motto is "fuck with me and maybe you'll live to regret it" [19:21]
mircea_popescu i wonder which is more appealing to the average person. [19:21]
benkay probably the former. [19:22]
ThickAsThieves No Trans Fat is more appealling to the avg person [19:22]
mircea_popescu i guess we have a political debate to settle huh. [19:22]
benkay political debate? [19:22]
ThickAsThieves debate! [19:23]
benkay more about nature of derpy average humans - most don't care about the tyrant under whom they sweat. [19:23]
ThickAsThieves how can we decentralize this problem? [19:23]
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ThickAsThieves decentralization is always the answer [19:23]
mircea_popescu benkay in which case they don't get a vote at all. [19:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04500022 = 0.225 BTC [-] [19:24]
benkay mircea_popescu: you're all over today man. first it was what's more appealing to the bell curve and now it's about who gets to vote on a thing. [19:24]
benkay i thought there was no voting in the future, just the decisions of btcholders. [19:25]
twizt lol [19:25]
ThickAsThieves he means voting via decisions [19:26]
jurov ;;seen pigeons [19:26]
gribble pigeons was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 weeks, 4 days, 3 hours, 19 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: should make an exact mpex clone with no new functionality just charge 5% to view it in a bootstrap template [19:26]
mircea_popescu lol [19:27]
mircea_popescu LANGUAGE BETRAYS ME! [19:27]
mircea_popescu let's learn esperanto. [19:27]
KRS1 lol esperanto [19:30]
ThickAsThieves Mi fartas bone. [19:30]
KRS1 Lord High Potentate would be proud. [19:30]
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pankkake "it's probably going to be illegal to use encryption" history repeating itself! [19:31]
pankkake I remember the stupid laws we had in France, where anything >128 bit was forbidden [19:32]
benkay how is the cardano protected from RNG diddling? [19:32]
pankkake of course, only big businesses were affected, the software was there for regular people [19:33]
asciilifeform benkay: if you can be more specific, you'll get a more interesting answer. [19:33]
benkay othis mid-delivery interception of computer bits and pieces to put hardware on 'em before they hit the data center [19:34]
benkay argh [19:34]
benkay i'm thinking about this mid-delivery interception of computer bits and pieces to put hardware on 'em before they hit the data center in a fashion that the end-customer is generally never wiser [19:34]
pankkake hmm… how about a seal? [19:34]
asciilifeform pankkake: seals inspire unjustified confidence [19:35]
asciilifeform the art of forging seals is centuries old. [19:35]
benkay what kind of seal actually works? i'm aware of any. [19:35]
benkay unaware* [19:35]
pankkake I don't have any knowledge of a foolproof seal [19:35]
benkay so what's the point? [19:35]
deadweasel feelings [19:35]
pankkake well there mihgt be [19:35]
deadweasel want to feel secure [19:35]
pankkake no [19:35]
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pankkake perhaps ship the device in two parts? [19:36]
benkay man i don't wanna 'feel' secure! [19:36]
benkay i want to know how NSA plans to address the in-shipment diddling of computer bits by fiat organizations. [19:38]
asciilifeform pankkake: there are two identical rngs (removable.) each is an analogue device, with convenient probe points and a very simple circuit (29 parts, 26 of them passives) [19:38]
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pankkake I was thinking of some sort of cryptographic seal; you'd have to activate the device in some way [19:39]
pankkake of course, I have no idea if it can work [19:39]
asciilifeform FW is signed, and users will be encouraged to suck it in and verify the sig [19:40]
asciilifeform each unit will also come with a set of high-res photographs of its internals, signed with my personal key. [19:40]
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pankkake well, that was the best I could come up with when thinking about "signing" the hardware [19:41]
asciilifeform the only real defence against an elaborate fake is to actually understand the function of the device [19:41]
asciilifeform the way a Pashtun understands his Kalash. [19:41]
pankkake it won't prevent tampering by highly qualified bad guys [19:41]
asciilifeform a sufficiently qualified enemy deserves your arse. [19:42]
ThickAsThieves put anthrax inside, problem solved [19:42]
mircea_popescu a sufficiently qualified enemy deserves your arse. << [19:43]
mircea_popescu only if "qualified" = his q - his q. [19:43]
mircea_popescu i mean his q - your q. [19:43]
pankkake the future is drone delivery with complete video feed of the fly path, with blockchain time proofs! [19:43]
pankkake hm, I'm not sure the second part solves anything [19:45]
pankkake video feed would be sent to the expeditor, obviously [19:45]
asciilifeform there is no 100% defence, even in principle, against a world-class forger [19:46]
asciilifeform one can take photos, sufficiently detailed to include imperfections of the pcb, solder joints, etc. and sign them [19:46]
asciilifeform but this requires the user to actually give a damn [19:46]
asciilifeform and sit with a jeweler's loupe, etc. [19:46]
pankkake is there any way to take pictures in a reproducible way? [19:48]
asciilifeform pankkake: it depends what you mean by 'reproducible' [19:49]
pankkake the images would then be comparable by a machine [19:49]
asciilifeform if you are considering a machine for the comparison, you are in a state of sin. [19:49]
benkay there is also the glitter fingernail polish approach [19:50]
ThickAsThieves it could be done sorta [19:50]
asciilifeform the idiots are 'wired' almost certainly stole that one from this channel. [19:50]
ThickAsThieves get a lightbox, calibrate the camera mount placement [19:50]
pankkake that was my idea, yes [19:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 90 @ 0.24310363 = 21.8793 BTC [19:52]
mircea_popescu << i loled. [19:53]
ozbot octopus Mike Hearn defaced bitcoinBull Inaba QuantPlus Raoul Duke cryptoa - [19:53]
pankkake interestingly I had Mike Hearn without knowing anything about his function [19:54]
pankkake function as in "official title" [19:54]
ThickAsThieves someone's ignore list? [19:54]
pankkake mine [19:54]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves pankkake's idea of a blog. [19:54]
pankkake haha [19:54]
ThickAsThieves hehe [19:54]
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pankkake short term project is to stop forums and blog more [19:55]
mircea_popescu it DOES have css, so. [19:55]
pankkake I basically replaced a forum I got banned from by another [19:55]
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ThickAsThieves kako should just add a blog section to the #b-a website [19:56]
ThickAsThieves then let channers post [19:56]
mircea_popescu so i just crafted a double bacon burger. sadly, it can't be eaten. [19:56]
pankkake you can create a "planet" [19:56]
mircea_popescu dude this isn't such a horrid idea. [19:56]
pankkake as in [19:56]
mircea_popescu post via assbot, only let ppl in its wot post. [19:56]
ThickAsThieves itd work way better than all of us trying to start our own thing [19:57]
mircea_popescu collective blog. [19:57]
benkay sounds socialist [19:57]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves it'd work cheaper, not sure better. [19:57]
pankkake benkay: yeah. that's why planet's better; everyone blogs how he sees fits, the planet aggregates [19:57]
ThickAsThieves the marketer in me thinks itd be better all around [19:58]
ThickAsThieves save trilema [19:58]
asciilifeform next thing we know, we're all moving into a cult commune with a hundred years of canned food and auto-turrets... [19:58]
ThickAsThieves which does pretty good [19:58]
benkay auto turrets for all! [19:58]
pankkake so readers go to one place if they wish, but bloggers are where they want [19:58]
ThickAsThieves so a feed reader, curated [19:58]
ThickAsThieves rather, filtered [19:59]
pankkake yes [19:59]
ThickAsThieves or both [19:59]
ThickAsThieves but curated sounds so centralixed [19:59]
benkay i don't want readers who can't subscribe to an rss feed on their own [19:59]
benkay shit, i don't want readers who don't curate their own reading lists! [19:59]
ThickAsThieves yknow chrome doesnt make it easy [19:59]
pankkake I know a blog that has *only* a RSS feed [19:59]
ThickAsThieves i know blogs that dnt have em at all [19:59]
benkay cryptome doesn't have an rss feed for that matter [20:00]
mircea_popescu next thing we know, we're all moving into a cult commune with a hundred years of canned food and auto-turrets... >>> and nudity for womenz under 35 ? [20:01]
asciilifeform ya [20:01]
pankkake used to not have one, too [20:01]
ThickAsThieves you could also implement the trilema blog fees [20:01]
ThickAsThieves to support assbot's family [20:01]
ThickAsThieves and the writers [20:01]
mircea_popescu anyway, buncha people have blogs, which imo is the best thing. [20:01]
asciilifeform ThickAsThieves: would be interesting to see a widget like 'metafilter' with a 1btc entry. [20:02]
mircea_popescu but for the lazy bums a global stopgap can't hurt [20:02]
pankkake "Assets Assimilated" [20:02]
mircea_popescu this way we get best of both worlds, all sorts of social phenomena on shared blogs [20:02]
ThickAsThieves in this sense i am indeed a lazy bum [20:02]
ThickAsThieves occassionally an urge to tell a tale [20:02]
ThickAsThieves but to make a blog? [20:02]
ThickAsThieves to get readers? [20:02]
ThickAsThieves meh [20:02]
mircea_popescu in other words : public fucking and private fucking aren't even the same fucking. they don't replace each other. [20:02]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves forget the readers, who cares. [20:03]
pankkake creating a blog is easy., done [20:03]
ThickAsThieves i happen to believe that art is for the viewer, not the creator [20:03]
mircea_popescu this novel nuttery with the readers. who cared, cca 1970, when telling a joke, how many people in the office were gathered round ? [20:03]
mircea_popescu it's like "o dan's joke was so much better, even sammy from the mailroom was here" [20:03]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.620012 = 3.1001 BTC [-] {3} [20:04]
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ThickAsThieves its sharing of experience, it has value beyond its own existence [20:04]
ThickAsThieves thus the more it is consumed, the more impact it has [20:05]
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benkay moreover, its mostly the firm's partners that the joke is intended for, not the typists and accountants. [20:05]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves maybe your readers all live in 2200. how do yu know ? [20:05]
mircea_popescu art can be for the viewer, but that doesn't necessarilyu mean google analytics is meaningful. [20:05]
ThickAsThieves i thought you were more existential? [20:06]
ThickAsThieves like you care about 2200 [20:06]
mircea_popescu i don't. i also don't care about readers as such. [20:07]
ThickAsThieves i also believe in creating an environment of facilitation [20:07]
mircea_popescu we're discussing your view here [20:07]
ThickAsThieves if you want a flower to grow, maybe plant a seed [20:07]
ThickAsThieves hell, maybe you even water it! [20:07]
mircea_popescu dude, if you got a seed plant it already, forget the flower. what, keep it in your pocket till it becomes lint ? [20:08]
ThickAsThieves well i did say it was a lazy idea [20:08]
benkay what's the best time to plant a tree? [20:08]
benkay twenty years ago. [20:08]
benkay what's the second best time to plant a tree? [20:08]
benkay today. [20:08]
mircea_popescu the big loser in all of this is, of course, [20:09]
mircea_popescu kako. [20:09]
ThickAsThieves not 19 years ago? [20:09]
mircea_popescu it's like... [20:09]
mircea_popescu "hey, implement this thing ? " "may i spend some time with my girl ? " "ok" [20:09]
ThickAsThieves lol [20:09]
mircea_popescu comes back... hey, we got 43987593485 more things to implement. [20:09]
mircea_popescu DARE YOU take off ever again ? [20:09]
ThickAsThieves then he gets mad at the girl "see what happens!" [20:09]
mircea_popescu poor chick ends up with irish sunglasses... [20:10]
mircea_popescu "all i did is walk!" [20:10]
ThickAsThieves walk yourself next time! [20:10]
mircea_popescu here's the leash, you got hands, go walk! [20:10]
ThickAsThieves ThickAsThieves: would be interesting to see a widget like 'metafilter' with a 1btc entry. <<<< i recall at least a couple "idea men" saying theyd make similar things [20:11]
ThickAsThieves also, i think mjr has a micro blog payment thingy [20:11]
ThickAsThieves blottery? [20:11]
ThickAsThieves incentivized reading or such [20:11]
ThickAsThieves in the past i suggested similar, [20:12]
pankkake I used to have a bot posting RSS feed updates to channels, but it was some Ruby crap and blew up [20:12]
ThickAsThieves run a service that holds like .1 btc for you in an account, it runs a chrome plugin, [20:12]
pankkake but that kind of stuff is quite useful [20:12]
ThickAsThieves it autopays in blog fees while urfing [20:13]
ThickAsThieves and gives you a popup if over a certain price [20:13]
ThickAsThieves to approve [20:13]
ThickAsThieves frictionless micropayments [20:13]
pankkake that's how the web should have been [20:13]
pankkake instead of advertising everywhere [20:13]
mircea_popescu ^ [20:13]
ThickAsThieves well it will [20:14]
mircea_popescu as i said! fucktards were allowed on the web before payments were put in, fucked everyhing up [20:14]
ThickAsThieves the advertising thing is almost fully milked [20:14]
pankkake isn't advertising one of the first things to be cut, when companies have financial troubles? [20:14]
ThickAsThieves small biz [20:15]
ThickAsThieves not big biz [20:15]
pankkake oh, I thought it was [20:15]
ThickAsThieves its backwards, yeah [20:15]
ThickAsThieves small biz cuts the thing they need most [20:15]
ThickAsThieves its very difficult for small biz to interpret value from marketing [20:16]
mircea_popescu or to avoid being scammed by marketeers. [20:16]
ThickAsThieves was my next point [20:17]
mircea_popescu last thing a small biz needs is to try and fucking compete with the government-backed wasters. [20:17]
ThickAsThieves they are bombarded with "opportunities" [20:17]
ThickAsThieves a small biz gets burned repeatedly [20:17]
mircea_popescu whenever i hear of a start-up working on a superbowl ad... [20:17]
ThickAsThieves and then when they finally bump into someone that can actually help them, they have lost all faith [20:17]
mircea_popescu speaking of which, after talking about advertising yest i got some pretty interesting info... seems superbowl is also pretty much dead. [20:18]
mircea_popescu they can barely sell tickets anymore. [20:18]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.615 = 2.46 BTC [-] [20:18]
ThickAsThieves bitbet shall transcend sports after all then [20:19]
ThickAsThieves bets on superbowl advertisoing revenue are way more fun anyway [20:19]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 60 @ 0.04899999 = 2.94 BTC [+] {2} [20:20]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 30 @ 0.00350877 = 0.1053 BTC [-] {2} [20:20]
mircea_popescu lol [20:21]
mircea_popescu "My name is Manthan, but you can call me nahtnam." [20:21]
mircea_popescu people today! [20:21]
mircea_popescu and unrelatedly... "50 percent of physicians reporting that they’ve consulted wikipedia for information on health conditions." [20:22]
mircea_popescu nofucking woder health insurance is so expensive. [20:22]
ThickAsThieves the other 50% use webmd [20:23]
mircea_popescu lol [20:24]
twizt time to pretend to be a doctor [20:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 10 @ 0.24310363 = 2.431 BTC [20:24]
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mircea_popescu i imagine for every person getting scammed by some bitcoin ceo [20:26]
mircea_popescu there's 100 or 1k patients beinbg scammed by some webdoctor [20:26]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.6 = 2.4 BTC [-] {2} [20:28]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.6 = 1.2 BTC [-] [20:29]
benkay far better to have a friend who's been through the american nursing training [20:30]
benkay than visit a hospital and have to trust some 'doctor' [20:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 5 @ 0.04500022 = 0.225 BTC [-] [20:30]
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pankkake [20:43]
ozbot Assets Assimilated [20:43]
ThickAsThieves nice [20:46]
ThickAsThieves the url is a bit... abrasive [20:46]
pankkake ~10 minute setup :) [20:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.58301004 BTC [-] [20:47]
pankkake I'd take any virtual host given, say [20:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02989907 = 0.1794 BTC [-] [20:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.02989907 = 0.1794 BTC [-] [20:49]
mircea_popescu assass lol [20:55]
pankkake ;;ud buttbuttinate [20:55]
gribble | buttbuttinate. The word "assassinate" after it has been mangled by a particularly stupid censor. It is a shame we still aren't sure who buttbuttinated JFK. He was in  ... [20:55]
ozbot Urban Dictionary: buttbuttinate [20:55]
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ThickAsThieves is there a transcript of all the NY hearings? [20:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20233 @ 0.00089612 = 18.1312 BTC [-] {2} [21:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 417 @ 0.00089601 = 0.3736 BTC [-] [21:01]
ThickAsThieves [21:03]
ozbot Gavin Andresen ’88 is Chief Scientist at the Bitcoin Foundation and lead developer of the Bitcoin [21:03]
ThickAsThieves this from a bitcoin magazine ad: [21:05]
ThickAsThieves invitation only [21:05]
ThickAsThieves but advertises on bitcoin mag? [21:05]
ThickAsThieves Bank Innovation 2014 will be a forum for executives and innovators to collaborate and share ideas to improve customer acquisition and retention through new products and strategies. [21:05]
ThickAsThieves ha there is a different Neo presenting [21:06]
ThickAsThieves Navin is founder and CEO of Neo, a startup that aims to disrupt credit risk assessment of thin-credit and sub-prime consumers by leveraging alternative credit data. [21:07]
pankkake Neo & Buzzwords [21:08]
mircea_popescu apparently all noobs have to go through the same wringer [21:08]
mircea_popescu be they princes or paupers. [21:08]
mircea_popescu whatever, bitcoin is here to cater. [21:08]
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ThickAsThieves [21:14]
ozbot Perkinsnacht - [21:14]
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ThickAsThieves i learned a new word, commentariat, thanks wsj! [21:14]
deadweasel chief scientist?!?! [21:15]
KRS1 sup, chief [21:16]
ThickAsThieves chief scientist get many wampum [21:17]
kakobrekla but the question is valid, ik wonder what's the best return on a bet on bitbet so far [21:18]
kakobrekla 5758.8% [21:18]
mike_c anticipation.. [21:18]
kakobrekla hm? [21:19]
mike_c link?? [21:19]
mike_c who won the lotto? [21:19]
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kakobrekla well i guess anyone can compile this list since all the stuff is public [21:19]
kakobrekla [21:19]
mike_c hm, but hard to tell which bet the wagers were on, right? [21:20]
mike_c ^ derp [21:20]
kakobrekla Bet #1834 on #277: 0.01000000 B in, 0.58588048 B out, 0.57588048 B gain (5758.8%) [21:20]
mike_c yeah, i glanced over the "on #277" somehow [21:20]
kakobrekla [21:21]
ozbot BitBet - BitBet haxxed in 2013 [21:21]
kakobrekla and more [21:21]
kakobrekla [21:21]
ozbot BitBet - BitBet haxxed in 2013 [21:21]
kakobrekla hm [21:21]
kakobrekla [21:21]
ozbot BitBet - BitBet haxxed in 2013 [21:21]
mike_c 277 was a special bet though [21:21]
kakobrekla still no [21:21]
kakobrekla a wait you cant do that [21:21]
ThickAsThieves [21:22]
ozbot BitBet - BitBet haxxed in 2013 [21:22]
kakobrekla ok well we can exclude that one if ya want [21:22]
kakobrekla if you throw it oout [21:22]
kakobrekla you get [21:22]
kakobrekla Bet #161 on #42: 0.03000000 B in, 0.69300000 B out, 0.66300000 B gain (2210%) [21:22]
mike_c that was a house bet. i'm curious what the best gain on a user bet was. i'll look through. [21:23]
kakobrekla grrr [21:23]
kakobrekla cant satisfy assets [21:23]
mike_c a demanding bunch. [21:23]
ThickAsThieves that's best in %, what's best in coin qty? [21:24]
kakobrekla but house bet 'out' can go to user mike_c [21:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 33 @ 0.02957418 = 0.9759 BTC [-] {4} [21:24]
mike_c true [21:24]
kakobrekla ThickAsThieves hm you mean most coin won or biggest gain? [21:25]
kakobrekla hm [21:25]
kakobrekla well gains you got ther [21:25]
kakobrekla you want biggest bet or what [21:25]
ThickAsThieves most coin won [21:26]
ThickAsThieves by one bet [21:26]
kakobrekla so biggest gain in btc amount, not by percentage [21:26]
kakobrekla or biggest 'out' ? [21:27]
ThickAsThieves biggest gain [21:27]
ThickAsThieves i can probly just put this in a spreadsheet and sort [21:27]
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kakobrekla 1 sec [21:29]
mike_c this might be it. over 1000% return, not bad. [21:29]
mike_c [21:29]
ozbot BitBet - Higgs boson support [21:29]
ThickAsThieves Bet #496 on #7: 100.00000000 B in 198.99762832 B out 98.99762832 B gain (99%) [21:30]
mike_c yeah, but you have to multiply the BTC x the exchange rate at the time :) [21:31]
kakobrekla [21:31]
kakobrekla i think. [21:31]
ThickAsThieves idc about exchange rate [21:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.074 = 0.37 BTC [-] [21:31]
ThickAsThieves [21:32]
ozbot BitBet - BFL will deliver ASIC devices before March 1st [21:32]
ThickAsThieves that guy [21:32]
ThickAsThieves 321.65447788btc gain [21:33]
kakobrekla [21:33]
kakobrekla now you can follow him [21:33]
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ThickAsThieves looks all funded from MPEx [21:37]
kakobrekla dunno talk to mpex re that :) [21:38]
ThickAsThieves scams! [21:40]
ThickAsThieves [21:40]
ozbot Bitcoin Address 1LSLFzSMD1ZDSiNV1bvJm9QNj1EhnC49eg [21:40]
kakobrekla whats that? [21:42]
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ThickAsThieves the IN tx [21:43]
kakobrekla anyway, if someone wanted to hide something, it isnt particularly hard [21:44]
ThickAsThieves from mpexy wallet to bitbet [21:44]
kakobrekla so someone made a bet with making a withdrawal on mpex [21:44]
ThickAsThieves probly [21:44]
kakobrekla >I fully believe we need to hire a PR manager, as my time can be much more effectively used actually working on things as opposed to maintaining this thread. [21:45]
kakobrekla doing what zactly, jerking off to free porn? [21:45]
ThickAsThieves who said that? [21:46]
kakobrekla that hard? [21:46]
ThickAsThieves Ukyo? [21:46]
kakobrekla the name starts with garr and ends with retard [21:46]
ThickAsThieves oh, he still talks? [21:47]
kakobrekla yea. [21:47]
pankkake I know but I read it before. anyway, those PR guys are useless if they're just remote random forum users with no info [21:47]
ThickAsThieves useless in the honest sense, at least [21:47]
pankkake what he really needs is a guy to take over the business [21:47]
kakobrekla he needs to be raped by niggers.txt, not a pr person. [21:47]
pankkake in the honest sense? [21:47]
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ThickAsThieves well hiring a PR is a great move for a scammer [21:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 12 @ 0.02941176 = 0.3529 BTC [-] [21:48]
kakobrekla pankkake there is no business there [21:48]
ThickAsThieves especially if you hire a populare forumite [21:48]
kakobrekla nothing to 'take over' [21:48]
kakobrekla except pile of shit and scam [21:48]
kakobrekla whod want taht [21:48]
pankkake the mining hardware, the coins [21:48]
ThickAsThieves ans especiallu if hiring means getting paid in shares [21:48]
kakobrekla he lost a bunch of coin [21:48]
kakobrekla doing stupid shit [21:48]
kakobrekla he baiscally defaulted [21:48]
pankkake well, yeah [21:49]
kakobrekla and will pay out of his own pocket, he says [21:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.02820002 = 0.3102 BTC [-] {2} [21:49]
kakobrekla but the diff will go to 50410 billion trillion zillion [21:49]
kakobrekla and he wont pay shit. [21:49]
ThickAsThieves i guess these scams will exist til the diff calms down [21:50]
ThickAsThieves its just too easy [21:50]
kakobrekla >alincoln, I do realize that that would be the best case scenario for you. However, please acknowledge that I am taking a heavy loss on this one, so please accept a full refund of your initial investment Plus all dividends up to the last one that was paid. With that case, you've still made more money than just holding coins, which is pretty damn good. [21:50]
ThickAsThieves even now, people paying .65 for AM shares?! [21:50]
kakobrekla sounds zactly like inaba [21:50]
kakobrekla whos dick he was sucking not a few months ago. [21:50]
kakobrekla maybe sperms got in his brain [21:50]
kakobrekla and now this. [21:51]
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mircea_popescu ;;later tell polac here's a list : (2.2k%), 1.5k%, 1k% etc [21:58]
gribble The operation succeeded. [21:58]
mircea_popescu what he really needs is a guy to take over the business << pankkake has a point there. [21:59]
mircea_popescu buncha derps with no business want to hire pr ? pr to do what. what they need is someone to take over their LIFE [22:00]
mircea_popescu like, a parent. [22:00]
pankkake well, given his age… [22:00]
mircea_popescu ikr? [22:00]
mircea_popescu "the internet is not your daycare, ma'am" [22:00]
mircea_popescu instead of "protecting children" [22:01]
mircea_popescu fuck children. protect the adults. [22:01]
kakobrekla what he really needs is a guy to take over the business << pankkake has a point there. << no biz, no point. [22:01]
pankkake why do you guys hate him so much though? [22:01]
deadweasel maybe you should start S.BDEV, offering consultants for a % of business improvement profits. [22:01]
mircea_popescu i dun hate him. [22:01]
ThickAsThieves i dont cqare enough to hate [22:01]
mircea_popescu deadweasel cheaper to just remake their "busness" properly. [22:01]
ThickAsThieves but i even tried leveling with him privately [22:01]
deadweasel oh ya [22:01]
mircea_popescu nobody goes around fixing bad hamburgers som,eone overcooked [22:02]
ThickAsThieves and all he did was beg to have his trust fixed [22:02]
kakobrekla its just the most straight forward scamfest to troll [22:02]
ThickAsThieves and when i said no, he negrated me [22:02]
ThickAsThieves just a scammer [22:02]
mircea_popescu [22:02]
kakobrekla i thought that middle girl has amish beard for a sec [22:03]
ThickAsThieves hehe me too [22:03]
mircea_popescu lmao [22:03]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.62280186 BTC [+] [22:06]
pankkake totally not a cult [22:07]
ozbot Devotional Sex [22:07]
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mircea_popescu it's a splendid idea, what. chicks getting dorks to lap them up and drool a lot. [22:08]
punkman "Lite Devotional Sex is for men who like most things about Devotional Sex, but are unwilling to meet the tough ejaculation restrictions of full Devotional Sex. " [22:11]
kakobrekla [22:11]
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mircea_popescu lol [22:12]
mircea_popescu you know, for the record : as weird as it may seem, this has been mainstream sexuality since about queen victoria up until 1970-1980. [22:14]
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lippoper what is up with the cars in subway? [22:14]
mircea_popescu only the introduction of effective cheap contraception and the rise of porn broke it up and sent the woman back on her knees [22:14]
lippoper kakobrekla [22:15]
kakobrekla lippoper i wont spoil the fun. [22:15]
ThickAsThieves it's reverting [22:16]
ThickAsThieves men want their mommies back [22:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 78 @ 0.0056 = 0.4368 BTC [-] {2} [22:16]
lippoper [22:17]
ozbot Vault of Satoshi, 24 h Trading volume - Imgur [22:17]
mircea_popescu certainly has a solid bedrock of interest. [22:17]
mircea_popescu and tbh... nttawwi. [22:17]
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ThickAsThieves ;;ud nttawwi [22:18]
gribble | Write for a large audience. Lots of people will read this, so give some background information. Don't name your friends. We'll reject inside jokes and definitions ... [22:18]
mircea_popescu not that there's anything wrong with it [22:18]
ThickAsThieves word [22:19]
benkay here's to setting women back on their knees [22:19]
benkay mine's crocheting a 'kneeling rug' [22:19]
mircea_popescu benkay careful you don't bit more than you can chew :D womenz can be a handful. [22:19]
benkay dem hardwood floors [22:19]
benkay yeah man i know! [22:19]
kakobrekla womenz can be a handful. < is that a handjob reference? [22:19]
mircea_popescu lol [22:20]
KRS1 Bait: [22:20]
KRS1 [22:20]
benkay but the most handfully they've ever gotten with me was when i wasn't regularly putting them on their knees. [22:20]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla how was the walk anyway [22:20]
kakobrekla very snowy [22:20]
kakobrekla got bout 40cm here [22:20]
mircea_popescu it's pleasant here, like maybe 5. [22:20]
kakobrekla its nice, clean and quiet [22:20]
kakobrekla but [22:20]
kakobrekla reminds of apple too much. [22:20]
mircea_popescu lol KRS1 you get points for clever shilling at least. [22:21]
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KRS1 .bait [22:29]
ozbot [22:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.58279556 = 5.2452 BTC [-] {5} [22:30]
lippoper [22:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.580258 = 1.7408 BTC [-] {3} [22:31]
lippoper [22:31]
ozbot Dogecoin and Quarkcoin Hot, Other Altcoins Not, on First Day Vault of Satoshi Trading – Digital Cu [22:31]
lippoper 24hours in Vault of Satoshi | Some noteworthy statistics: [22:32]
lippoper 88% of trading was performed in USD, Bitcoin was the most traded crypto, combining for $19.4k, or 48% of the total dollar volume. In a not-too-distant 2nd was Dogecoin, combining for $14.1k, or 35% of the total volume. No other cryptos came remotely close. Litecoin was a distant 4th, posting just $2100 in total dollar volume. [22:32]
mircea_popescu why is this noteworthy ? [22:33]
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lippoper That's what the article said [22:34]
lippoper Are you telling me the news is lieing to me? [22:34]
lippoper lulz [22:34]
pankkake how do you get fiat in and out of VoS? [22:34]
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mircea_popescu im telling you there's no way to distinguish random scammy "exchange" #854687 from all the others and nobody really cares what alt coin traded five grand more than which other altcoin [22:35]
lippoper cool [22:36]
lippoper pankkake, they have a verification system [22:36]
lippoper takes 3 days for bank transfers to clear [22:36]
pankkake so it's bank transfers. good [22:37]
mircea_popescu you in any way involved? [22:37]
mircea_popescu anyone here know the DrahogErusiel forum character incidentally ? [22:37]
lippoper no just heard about it yesterday [22:37]
lippoper that VOS is based in Canada, where they are treating virtual currencies as a commodity [22:37]
lippoper so it should be legal and taxable over there [22:37]
mircea_popescu commodities are taxed in canada ? [22:38]
lippoper aren't all commodities taxed? [22:38]
mircea_popescu i think you may be confused. [22:38]
mircea_popescu dja mean like a sales tax ? [22:39]
KRS1 fawk lippoper nice bait..much love [22:39]
lippoper yeah [22:39]
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mircea_popescu perhaps. all previous canadian exchanges ended up turning kinda shady so it never really got tested. [22:39]
lippoper KRS1 wasn't as good as your last one... ;-) [22:39]
KRS1 i'll trade ya [22:40]
mircea_popescu nubbins` you there ? or anyone wanna escrow some painting comission for me ? [22:40]
lippoper mp, i'm not sure how it all works to be honest, but from what I understand Canada gives businesses more confidence to deal in virtual currencies because at least they've defined it as a commodity. [22:40]
KRS1 mircea_popescu: I have not yet been rated [22:40]
mircea_popescu sux. [22:41]
deadweasel nubbins`: you declaring your btc? [22:43]
lippoper KRS [22:44]
lippoper best bait yet [22:44]
twizt nicee [22:45]
twizt only the one in the middle and left [22:45]
pankkake I'd take middle and right [22:47]
KRS1 Mmm nice [22:47]
deadweasel i'm using my imagination (at work), i'll take the top 6 [22:47]
KRS1 left boobs too big [22:47]
pankkake no such thing [22:48]
KRS1 deadweasel: theres left mid and right [22:48]
KRS1 i like mid and right [22:48]
* deadweasel plows the invisible cunt [22:49]
deadweasel it's like i'm 13 again! [22:49]
lippoper i'll take one for the team and grab the big boobed girl on the left [22:49]
lippoper lol [22:49]
deadweasel kind man, lippoper [22:49]
lippoper such wingman [22:49]
mircea_popescu the fountain of ircyouth [22:49]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4 @ 0.04899999 = 0.196 BTC [+] [22:50]
lippoper very motorboat [22:50]
lippoper wow [22:50]
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KRS1 lol [22:52]
KRS1 wonder what sex games can be driven by btc [22:52]
Dimsler_ i tried to buy pimpcoin [22:53]
Dimsler_ from the creater [22:53]
Dimsler_ refused to sell it to me [22:53]
twizt lol [22:53]
mircea_popescu why ? [22:54]
KRS1 need something with the allure of sex, addiction of dice and the ease of payment of BTC. [22:54]
twizt win a escort KRS1 [22:54]
Dimsler_ to have all the whores and johns using it? [22:54]
twizt box bet for escorts [22:55]
KRS1 Heroin delivery by late night Bait? [22:55]
twizt fill the box [22:55]
twizt winner gets 3 hrs [22:55]
twizt with XYZ pornstar [22:55]
twizt = business [22:55]
twizt LOL [22:55]
Dimsler_ sex industry is going to be the next step for btc [22:55]
KRS1 not bad i have some contacts for that hmm [22:55]
KRS1 just local tho [22:55]
twizt use a site like eros [22:55]
mircea_popescu sex industry is kinda thick, kinda dead and doesn't really need a special coin [22:55]
mircea_popescu nor could they use it. [22:55]
Dimsler_ pimpcoin is genious [22:55]
KRS1 i know the guy who bought [22:55]
Dimsler_ if you went on the backpage [22:55]
twizt international yo [22:55]
Dimsler_ and started advertising it to girls [22:56]
Dimsler_ you'd probably get some users [22:56]
Dimsler_ imagine if your a whore [22:56]
Dimsler_ and offer to take btc? [22:56]
Dimsler_ imagine the traffic you'd get [22:56]
twizt lol [22:56]
Dimsler_ from the advertising alone [22:56]
twizt pay ur hoes with pimp coin [22:56]
Dimsler_ it'll be like [22:56]
KRS1 mircea_popescu: the porn industry does NOT have a way to take micropayments [22:56]
Dimsler_ except no shitty lawnchairs [22:56]
mircea_popescu Dimsler_ you obviously missed [22:56]
assbot 123! [22:56]
mircea_popescu KRS1 or any product those micropayments'd be for. [22:56]
KRS1 damn [22:57]
KRS1 i guess [22:57]
Dimsler_ mircea_popescu, in most countries whores have pimps [22:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 68 @ 0.00283294 = 0.1926 BTC [+] {3} [22:57]
Dimsler_ and a smart pimp should be on the btc bandwagon [22:57]
Dimsler_ for monetary control of his steed of whores [22:57]
mircea_popescu pimps will take anything you pay them. [22:57]
Dimsler_ think about it, they can't skim from the pimp [22:57]
Dimsler_ the pimp controls the transaction [22:57]
mircea_popescu you ever been one ? [22:57]
Dimsler_ he can chronologically time stamp the whores whereabouts [22:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 685 @ 0.00283576 = 1.9425 BTC [+] {3} [22:58]
Dimsler_ no [22:58]
mircea_popescu well, do you hang out / go drinking with any ? [22:58]
twizt KRS1 are u a dev? [22:58]
Dimsler_ guys that run girls? [22:58]
Dimsler_ i try not to associate with the dreges of society [22:58]
Dimsler_ if thats what you're implying [22:58]
mircea_popescu then why do you try to solve their problems ? [22:59]
Dimsler_ for my own personal gain obviously [22:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 37 @ 0.0028399 = 0.1051 BTC [+] [22:59]
Dimsler_ to collect me 3% on pimpcoin [22:59]
Dimsler_ or other [22:59]
mircea_popescu yes, but the problem is it all stems from your own personal delusion, i'd say. [22:59]
Dimsler_ greed is my motivational factor [22:59]
Dimsler_ which other ones did you want me to have? [22:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 65 @ 0.00284 = 0.1846 BTC [+] [23:00]
mircea_popescu well, that's fine, but it doesn't help in this angle. [23:00]
Dimsler_ i love all the preaching bitcoiners how they are going to be saving farmers in argentina or africa [23:00]
mircea_popescu anyway : pimps will take whatever the customer pays. [23:00]
Dimsler_ fact is btcs main use will be for illicit purposes [23:00]
Dimsler_ ofcourse he will [23:00]
mircea_popescu bitcoin is interesting for the student/teen that doubles as a hooker on her own [23:00]
twizt hookercoin [23:00]
mircea_popescu because that way she can't get caught, not really, and moreover she gets the crowd she likes [23:00]
twizt has it been made yet? [23:00]
twizt LOL [23:01]
mircea_popescu (ie, white dorks/nerds) [23:01]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 50 @ 0.00284999 = 0.1425 BTC [+] [23:01]
Dimsler_ well bitcoin is for anyone who doesn't want to A) have a problem with asset seizure B) wants to hide there activity financially C) want to launder there proceeds [23:01]
mircea_popescu right ? [23:01]
Dimsler_ so why wouldn't the pimp facilitate the usage of bitcoin [23:01]
mircea_popescu so the last thing a pimp wants is crypto. [23:01]
mircea_popescu the pimp and the govt have in fact the exact same interests : [23:01]
mircea_popescu a stable of cattle they're exploiting. [23:01]
Dimsler_ ofcourse but the pimp is operating within his own brutalizing operation [23:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 80 @ 0.0028462 = 0.2277 BTC [-] {2} [23:02]
mircea_popescu derp. [23:02]
Dimsler_ outside of the norms of the government criminal gang [23:02]
Dimsler_ hes not paying taxing or utilize the court system for conflict dispute [23:02]
mircea_popescu anyway. [23:02]
twizt government = real mafia [23:02]
twizt lol [23:02]
KRS1 [23:02]
ozbot Damian Marley - Welcome To Jamrock - YouTube [23:02]
twizt 100% racket [23:02]
Dimsler_ well mircea_popescu is correct [23:02]
Dimsler_ countries are giant farms [23:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 70 @ 0.0028399 = 0.1988 BTC [-] [23:03]
Dimsler_ they have the slaves, the brutalizing class, the high preists, and the farm keepers [23:03]
mircea_popescu anyway, more's the point : i been trying to get the fucktarded girls on crypto for 2 years. [23:03]
mircea_popescu they're dumb as rocks, lazy as a limp cock and proud like peacocks. [23:03]
mircea_popescu it's slow going, and in the end who the fuck cares. [23:03]
Dimsler_ thats why a simple pimpcoin interface [23:03]
mircea_popescu lead that linked thread, you'll get the gist of it. [23:03]
KRS1 The grass is greener on the other side. [23:08]
KRS1 [23:08]
ozbot Julian Marley - Boom draw - YouTube [23:08]
KRS1 lippoper: ^^ for you ganja man [23:10]
mircea_popescu [23:11]
lippoper nice thanks mon [23:11]
pankkake the tomatoes are more attractive than the girl [23:12]
lippoper lol [23:13]
twizt fake tits [23:13]
lippoper aww how fappable [23:14]
lippoper [23:14]
pankkake nice! [23:15]
mircea_popescu nice tomatoes. [23:15]
lippoper yay dogecoin has reached's #5 position [23:15]
lippoper oh wait [23:16]
lippoper slipped back to 6 [23:16]
lippoper nvm [23:16]
pankkake sometimes Nxt breaks, too [23:16]
mircea_popescu considering ripples are #2 there... lol. [23:19]
pankkake [23:21]
lippoper wow [23:22]
lippoper I bet the redhead is the hottest and you can't see any of her assets [23:22]
pankkake [23:23]
pankkake she seems to have the biggest [23:23]
lippoper I think i was right [23:23]
lippoper :-) [23:23]
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pankkake that one is just unfair… [23:25]
twizt cant see any of that [23:25]
twizt lol [23:25]
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mircea_popescu [23:53]
ozbot [CRYPTO-TRADE] IPO and official thread [23:53]
mircea_popescu so much fail [23:53]
Dimsler_ sorry i'm back [23:56]
benkay y'all made me strip the babe down and lose like 2 hours of workable time [23:56]
KRS1 HAHA [23:56]
benkay downsides of the home office [23:57]
benkay what was i doing again? [23:57]
benkay "WOMAN MORE COFFEE" [23:57]
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