Forum logs for 28 Feb 2016

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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mircea_popescu speaking of box-chess : http://41.media.tumblr.com/1bf6111f15b131dbef04c23c3b19e74d/tumblr_mf8kskjRLp1s0gddxo1_1280.jpg [00:09]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1QmSBCs ) [00:09]
mircea_popescu there's the box, and there's the chess. [00:09]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52350 @ 0.00059064 = 30.92 BTC [+] {3} [00:12]
phf ben_vulpes: so the way thing works right now, is that when you connect a new instance of scheme runtime is created, which is then fed init.scm and connected to the network stream fd. right now the pattern that we have is from inside a running instance you can call out into trb and make it do things [00:14]
BingoBoingo http://www.t-platforms.ru/about-company/press-releases/625--25022016.html [00:15]
assbot Новости компании - 25.02.2016 ... ( http://bit.ly/1T3gW60 ) [00:15]
BingoBoingo From Google Transgrish: "Due to hardware accelerators supporting GOST 28147-89, processors "Baikal-T1" have certified compatibility with software and hardware encryption tools. At present the work as part of AWS "Meadowsweet terminal" preparing several Russian means of information protection. The company develops InfoTeKS for "Tavolgi" customized solution based on the constructor protected ViPNet network, designed for the safe ope [00:17]
BingoBoingo ration of VPN and PKI services. The company CRYPTO-PRO adapts crypto CryptoPro SSP, are widely used, in particular, for the authorization of electronic signatures in the documents. Adaptation also tested cryptographic USB-tokens Rutoken S and Rutoken electronic signature for secure two-factor authentication in computer systems and storage of key information." [00:17]
BingoBoingo Apparently shipping Q2 2016 [00:19]
phf ben_vulpes: in order to support any sort of rewrite of existing code, need to figure out how to have scheme runtime created at bitcoind start and that runtime allowing for reentry [00:21]
phf which requires a better understanding of how ts's stack work, or perhaps figuring out how to make multiple scheme instances share same oblist or something [00:26]
phf i think ascii short term plan is specifically rewrite of rpc, because it's an easily achievable low hanging fruit, which when done completely will let us get rid of json/http [00:28]
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ben_vulpes > allowing for reentry << bleeee [00:30]
ben_vulpes okay i'll leave that and the slime work to the real artisans [00:30]
phf also the whole thing is not thread safe... [00:32]
phf but then i also tend to overthink things, for all i know there's a perfectly trivial solution to all things [00:33]
ben_vulpes hey [00:35]
ben_vulpes hey phf [00:35]
ben_vulpes how bout dem clang scripts [00:35]
ben_vulpes ;) [00:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 109392 @ 0.00059085 = 64.6343 BTC [+] {3} [00:36]
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phf well, i can give you half baked version ;) [00:36]
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phf ben_vulpes: http://paste.lisp.org/display/308410 [00:37]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1T3hiti ) [00:37]
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ben_vulpes #> (btc_connections) [00:39]
ben_vulpes 0 [00:39]
ben_vulpes dash/hyphen conventions alive, ^^ asciilifeform, phf, mod6_, mircea_popescu [00:39]
ben_vulpes s/alive/aside [00:39]
ben_vulpes nifty, phf! [00:40]
phf 1) brew install cmake 2) patch < foo.patch 3) link_directories and include_directories in CMakeList.txt need to point to be modified to point to your boost/db4/openssl locations 4) mkdir foo; cd foo; cmake ..; make [00:40]
ben_vulpes v. cool [00:41]
ben_vulpes yeah i imagined that running buildroot wouldn't make sense on a bsdalike [00:41]
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phf well, after my eulora travails i can trivially build anything on mac os x with homebrew (thanks mp!), in this case there's not even a need to fuck around since b-a approved versions of dependencies have brew formulas for them [00:44]
ben_vulpes you're a real rubro now phf! [00:45]
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ben_vulpes anyways, rather neet. looking forward to shortening my loop up. [00:46]
ben_vulpes i'm off to waft the child through hipstergenic clouds of pot smoke [00:46]
phf i'm going to have some kefir and decompress from the day [00:47]
phf i might even produce some instructions for a heathen build using brew/clang/cmake [00:48]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00059146 = 8.9015 BTC [+] [00:59]
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mircea_popescu phf> i think ascii short term plan is specifically rewrite of rpc, because it's an easily achievable low hanging fruit, which when done completely will let us get rid of json/http << quite. [01:10]
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mircea_popescu lol yw [01:27]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58800 @ 0.00059237 = 34.8314 BTC [+] [01:40]
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BingoBoingo Justice Porn from 2013. Take away ashtrays as part of a pretend smoking ban, Fuck you get litter: https://archive.is/61rRZ [01:59]
assbot Mizzou Stream Team to hold outdoor clean-up events at local waterways – The Maneater ... ( http://bit.ly/1oGNd64 ) [01:59]
BingoBoingo Wait, wrong one [02:00]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72800 @ 0.00058816 = 42.818 BTC [-] {2} [02:19]
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asciilifeform massive fleanode retardation [02:30]
asciilifeform incidentally, what kind of sense does it make for arsebot to lose everybody's session when it dies ? [02:31]
asciilifeform i mean, i understand losing session when ~people~ log out. [02:31]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417141 << i actually wrote it for entirely other reason but only made it public because mircea_popescu suggested curing the rpc retardation [02:32]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 04:08:36; mircea_popescu: phf> i think ascii short term plan is specifically rewrite of rpc, because it's an easily achievable low hanging fruit, which when done completely will let us get rid of json/http << quite. [02:32]
phf plx more details! [02:32]
asciilifeform phf: ? [02:33]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417106 << BingoBoingo you can buy the usg version of this idocy right now. eager ? [02:34]
asciilifeform *idiocy [02:34]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 03:15:29; BingoBoingo: From Google Transgrish: "Due to hardware accelerators supporting GOST 28147-89, processors "Baikal-T1" have certified compatibility with software and hardware encryption tools. At present the work as part of AWS "Meadowsweet terminal" preparing several Russian means of information protection. The company develops InfoTeKS for "Tavolgi" customized solution based on the constructor protect [02:34]
phf oh i meant, what was the entirely other reason? [02:34]
BingoBoingo asciilifeform: Yes, idiocy remains [02:34]
asciilifeform phf: tx debugger [02:34]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417087 << what did ben_vulpes mean here ? [02:36]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 02:49:59; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform (phf, adlai, mod6_, mod6): okay this is grand and i can see several rpc commands trivially slain in this vein, and others with application of work. but but but! would someone send me a map for running /scheme/ code from within satoshis abortion? [02:36]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417079 << copied from similar routine elsewhere. it's a cheap stack smash pill. see logz. [02:37]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 02:14:54; ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what's the thinking behind using IMPLEMENT_RANDOMIZE_STACK in shiva.cpp? [02:37]
asciilifeform !s IMPLEMENT_RANDOMIZE_STACK [02:37]
assbot 4 results for 'IMPLEMENT_RANDOMIZE_STACK' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=IMPLEMENT_RANDOMIZE_STACK [02:37]
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phf asciilifeform: i think he's looking for a way to slice scheme into an arbitrary part of bitcoind, like CInv inv = scheme_apply('inv-process', cons(...));, unless i'm mistaken, but seems confirmed later in log [02:40]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417169 << this is utterly, screamingly ugly and i will sign no part of it. [02:45]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 05:38:28; phf: asciilifeform: i think he's looking for a way to slice scheme into an arbitrary part of bitcoind, like CInv inv = scheme_apply('inv-process', cons(...));, unless i'm mistaken, but seems confirmed later in log [02:45]
asciilifeform shiva is for abolishing cppisms in whole unitary chunks. [02:46]
asciilifeform not line by line, wtf. [02:46]
asciilifeform rpc is an example. [02:46]
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asciilifeform it is to be amputated ~whole~. no motherfucking stumps. [02:47]
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phf i only ride 'em, i don't know what makes 'em work. [02:48]
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phf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5cL-h3Pj1o < [02:51]
assbot Kelly's Heroes Oddball Takes a Rest - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1OEI0Rk ) [02:51]
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ben_vulpes asciilifeform: okok! point taken. [03:03]
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ben_vulpes asciilifeform: is it inane of me to ask about hyphen/underscore conventions in shiva.cpp? [03:10]
phf (hyphen plx) [03:10]
ben_vulpes phf: and in the c function declarations? [03:11]
phf underscore [03:11]
ben_vulpes this is idiomatic c and scheme? [03:12]
phf yes [03:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33250 @ 0.00058829 = 19.5606 BTC [+] {2} [03:12]
ben_vulpes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzsWxPLIOo [03:13]
assbot I Know Nothing - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1OEJLOi ) [03:13]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5900 @ 0.00058404 = 3.4458 BTC [-] [03:48]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 123809 @ 0.00058976 = 73.0176 BTC [+] {4} [03:54]
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ben_vulpes phf, asciilifeform: where is an appropriate place for custom trb scheme, and what mechanism should load it? just appending to the bottom of init.scm feels wrong. [03:55]
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phf i don't imagine it matters at the moment, can always shuffle things [04:15]
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ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417130 << wurx [04:31]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 03:38:49; phf: 1) brew install cmake 2) patch < foo.patch 3) link_directories and include_directories in CMakeList.txt need to point to be modified to point to your boost/db4/openssl locations 4) mkdir foo; cd foo; cmake ..; make [04:31]
ben_vulpes at least, complains of no shiva flags [04:31]
phf no shiva flags? [04:31]
ben_vulpes lemme see if it shits to disk [04:31]
ben_vulpes Error: If Shiva is enabled, MUST specify init file! [04:32]
ben_vulpes init file, scuse me [04:32]
phf oh oh [04:32]
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phf yeah no reason why it wouldn't work from there.. [04:33]
ben_vulpes holy fuckadoodle phf delivars [04:33]
phf in other news, http://btcbase.org/patches/phf-shiva-swank [04:34]
assbot phf-shiva-swank ... ( http://bit.ly/1QmWPKx ) [04:34]
ben_vulpes heavens to betsy [04:34]
ben_vulpes what a night [04:34]
ben_vulpes heheheh strbuffsize goes from 256 to 2048 [04:35]
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phf big buffer ensures i can send big function over wire and tinyscheme doesn't barf [04:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60200 @ 0.0005877 = 35.3795 BTC [-] {2} [04:37]
phf after application, run with -swank in addition to all the other shiva args, and connecting to the shiva port with slime-connect should work mircles [04:37]
ben_vulpes aha i assumed, just thought it funny how quickly that number got bigger and by how much [04:37]
ben_vulpes hey phf this btcbase thing would rule with anchored line numbers on patches [04:37]
phf it's got mp's select on it, but yeah, line numbers might be better [04:38]
ben_vulpes oh huh [04:38]
phf select thing is still vaguely broken though [04:38]
ben_vulpes http://btcbase.org/patches/phf-shiva-swank#selection-1003.0-1007.24 [04:38]
assbot phf-shiva-swank ... ( http://bit.ly/1ph6vzp ) [04:38]
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ben_vulpes clearly you need more to do [04:39]
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phf indeed [04:39]
phf maybe a skilled fullstack developer could fix the selection widget for us [04:40]
phf if only we had some web development professional in our ranks [04:40]
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ben_vulpes ho ho ho [04:44]
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ben_vulpes myup, looks like y'all got a wad of javascript [04:44]
ben_vulpes i recommend a thorough course of benjies, piped straight through the developer funnel. [04:45]
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ben_vulpes you'll probably want to re-grease the decompilator with some euros while we're at it, that never hurts and can frequently improve end-user experience [04:45]
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phf http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=31-01-2016#1391942 << previous take on this problem [04:46]
assbot Logged on 31-01-2016 22:30:16; phf: he can get me a pm at $150/hr and two junior devs $50/hr each in no time. selection will work by next iteration, but will depend on jquery and react [04:46]
ben_vulpes you people seem to think that i actually handle the rods myself [04:47]
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ben_vulpes #> (btc-connections) [04:49]
ben_vulpes 0 [04:49]
ben_vulpes ^^ natively on the mac [04:49]
ben_vulpes what a time to be alive [04:49]
ben_vulpes phf: consider linking to sigs from patch page? [04:51]
ben_vulpes also signers line i think is broken [04:51]
phf signers is misguided, shows everyone participating in the press [04:52]
ben_vulpes myeah, i figured. [04:52]
ben_vulpes mebbe call it "press party" [04:52]
ben_vulpes full of bad ideas tonight, me [04:52]
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punkman https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcQqFk1XIAAJzhr.jpg:large "Pope Francis meets Instagram CEO at the Vatican to discuss "power of images."" [04:59]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1ph84gG ) [04:59]
punkman oh he has a twitter account, that's great https://twitter.com/pontifex [05:01]
assbot Pope Francis (@Pontifex) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1ph8dRn ) [05:01]
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punkman http://www.zdnet.com/article/ssd-reliability-in-the-real-world-googles-experience/ [05:08]
assbot SSD reliability in the real world: Google's experience | ZDNet ... ( http://bit.ly/1ph8SSV ) [05:08]
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ben_vulpes age trumps r/w load eh? [05:11]
phf main issue with using select on btcbase page, changing dom basically breaks all links [05:12]
punkman phf, maybe better to do line numbers and use line ranges in the link anchor [05:14]
phf aye [05:15]
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phf but line numbers better match the vpatch lines, that requires patching the vpatch parser, so i'm just going to sleep instead :) [05:16]
ben_vulpes nn phf great work [05:17]
ben_vulpes Connecting to Swank on port 1336.. [05:17]
ben_vulpes error in process filter: net-read error: (cl-assertion-failed (cl-plusp length)) [05:17]
ben_vulpes ^^ to haunt your dreams [05:17]
phf hmm [05:18]
phf if you just connect to 1336 with netcat, and type a bunch of random letters, does it bail with "wrong length" error? [05:18]
ben_vulpes nope, eval error unbound [05:19]
phf did you pass the ./bitcoind a -swank argument? [05:19]
ben_vulpes a no [05:19]
ben_vulpes herp derp [05:20]
ben_vulpes doooope [05:23]
ben_vulpes ty phf [05:24]
punkman mircea_popescu: .. supercute de-windows-ization : http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-02-27.log.html#t23:38:19 << I like the command line sure, but I find editing text without a mouse a hassle, same for trying to remember 1000 keyboard shortcuts for each of 100 apps, or having to spend 10 minutes to figure out obscure cli options to use something once. [05:24]
assbot #Eulora log for Saturday, 2016-02-27 ... ( http://bit.ly/21r0UYp ) [05:24]
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phf ben_vulpes: you can now control the universe [05:26]
ben_vulpes this is a mega patch [05:26]
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ben_vulpes phf: get to bed before i bog you down in emacs config arcana [05:28]
phf ooh ooh, try apropos! also meta-tab completion! [05:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 72600 @ 0.00059315 = 43.0627 BTC [+] {3} [05:28]
ben_vulpes eee [05:29]
ben_vulpes apropos does a thing [05:29]
ben_vulpes finds car and set-car! [05:30]
ben_vulpes now to wire in compile-and-load-file [05:31]
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punkman http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=27-02-2016#1416586 speaking of which, http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/22/world/europe/alexander-litvinenko-poisoning-inquiry-britain.html [05:33]
assbot Logged on 27-02-2016 16:58:25; asciilifeform: either that or i finally got fed the polonium. [05:33]
assbot Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1phaY5g ) [05:33]
punkman "the release of the final report of a lengthy public inquiry into Mr. Litvinenko’s death." [05:33]
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punkman http://observer.com/2016/01/the-return-of-wetwork-kgb-goons-radiated-a-former-associate-in-london/ [05:38]
assbot The Return of Wetwork: KGB Goons Radiated a Former Associate in London | Observer ... ( http://bit.ly/1phbpfP ) [05:38]
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punkman http://www.brainsturbator.com/posts/409/the-human-brain-is-a-piece-of-shit [05:48]
assbot Brainsturbator ... ( http://bit.ly/1phcpAs ) [05:48]
ben_vulpes punkman: wasn't that forever ago? or is there a new case [05:58]
punkman nope, the old case [06:01]
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punkman 10 year inquiry that results in nothing in particular [06:02]
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punkman for the kids http://bookzz.org/book/2474909/210e75 [06:06]
assbot The New Way Things Work | David Macaulay | digital library bookzz ... ( http://bit.ly/1phe2OG ) [06:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6390 @ 0.0005828 = 3.7241 BTC [-] [06:07]
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BingoBoingo ;;bc,stats [06:11]
gribble Current Blocks: 400386 | Current Difficulty: 1.6349165490895926E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 401183 | Next Difficulty In: 797 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 10 hours, 7 minutes, and 20 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [06:11]
punkman ;;nethash [06:13]
gribble 1153065295.31 [06:13]
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ben_vulpes http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp#0119 << well this will have to go [06:13]
assbot Satoshi 0.5.3.1/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp ... ( http://bit.ly/1pheDjB ) [06:13]
punkman I remember when I first saw "Help text is returned in an exception" [06:14]
ben_vulpes and yes, yes. the whole rpc wart must be frozen with nitrogen and smashed into a zillion pieces. [06:14]
ben_vulpes right?! [06:14]
ben_vulpes what i appear to have forgotten since the last time i looked into this pit of snakes is that it calls all of the rpc functions in turn to construct the help list. [06:15]
ben_vulpes like...what? [06:15]
punkman not a bad idea to write down reading notes and share on mailing list [06:16]
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ben_vulpes half-baked exclamations of disgust are probably best kept here [06:32]
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punkman http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/26/mercedes-benz-robots-people-assembly-lines [06:42]
assbot Mercedes-Benz swaps robots for people on its assembly lines | Technology | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1THk3PR ) [06:42]
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ben_vulpes http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp#0266 << what does it mean for `nLimitProcessors = nGenProcLimit` to be passed as the argument to WriteSetting? an implicit test returning a boolean doesn't make much sense to me as a value for nLimitProcessors [07:21]
assbot Satoshi 0.5.3.1/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp ... ( http://bit.ly/1Rc5Zck ) [07:21]
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ben_vulpes a casual browsing of the source suggests to me that the processor limiting could be excised. thoughts? [07:23]
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ben_vulpes well thanks to phf's fine work, i implemented get-connection-count, get-difficulty, get-generate, and am going to sleep on set-generate. [07:26]
punkman it's not a boolean [07:27]
ben_vulpes get-difficulty is a straight rip of the c from bitcoinrpc.cpp [07:27]
ben_vulpes the others are all trivial [07:27]
punkman notice the single = [07:28]
ben_vulpes punkman: yeah, a bool there doesn't make sense because it's used as a number of processors. [07:28]
ben_vulpes punkman: yeah i have nfi [07:29]
ben_vulpes assigns nLP equivalent to nGPL and throws it down the chute? [07:30]
ben_vulpes why not just throw nGPL into WriteSetting? [07:30]
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ben_vulpes AaronvanW: your connection details are leaking before your host gets applied [07:31]
ben_vulpes !up AaronvanW [07:31]
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ben_vulpes anyways, i'm off to bed. thanks punkman. [07:31]
punkman ben_vulpes: because I guess nGPL is a global used somewhere else [07:31]
punkman and fuck yeah I saved a line! [07:32]
AaronvanW ben_vulpes: ah. any way to fix that? [07:32]
ben_vulpes phf, asciilifeform: this is a real treat to work with [07:32]
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punkman AaronvanW: use SASL to login [07:32]
ben_vulpes AaronvanW: you want "sasl", and to instruct whatever client you're using to not join channels until it's done swizzling the sasl [07:32]
AaronvanW punkman ben_vulpes: will look into that, thanks [07:33]
ben_vulpes AaronvanW: cheers [07:33]
punkman ben_vulpes: second part isn't needed, sasl happens before the client can join anything [07:33]
ben_vulpes punkman: BUT IT'S ONLY USED IN SETGENERATE OMFGWTFBBQ [07:34]
ben_vulpes punkman: aha would you like a stack randomizer while we're at it? [07:34]
punkman I'll take two [07:34]
ben_vulpes more random stacks are more secure! [07:34]
ben_vulpes rot13 in your ssh! [07:35]
ben_vulpes mirror terminal output and learn to read backwards! [07:35]
ben_vulpes sing songs from mary poppins while reading gpg-grams to defeat the high-fidelity microphones! [07:35]
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ben_vulpes !up TheRealJohnGalt are we through the netsplit and can i yell at you about your flapping connection yet? [07:36]
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ben_vulpes srsly. [07:42]
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mircea_popescu hhhola! [11:31]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417147 <<< this is so much like the "munca patriotica" bs you wouldn't believe. [11:33]
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shinohai https://i.imgur.com/QGI9O5n.jpg [11:39]
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mircea_popescu Оборонно-массовая и патриотическая работа, ie what the whores (see То знай: за честь должна считать Знакомство юнкерского хуя!) and their litter does. [11:39]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417150 << there is no seession! [11:41]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 05:28:53; asciilifeform: massive fleanode retardation [11:41]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417175 << i support this. the problem with the "easier" approach of "we don't cut whole parts but arbitrary fragments" is that now you not only baked in the fragmentator, which becomes one of your dependencies, but also have to keep track of arbitrary fragments, which are numerous (this is why replacing one file at a time, while dubious, is at least not involving MORE mov [11:44]
mircea_popescu ing parts than replacing by conceptual unit, which is why it's more apt to be contemplated) and will soon overwhelm any "easier" benefits early on. [11:44]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 05:45:17; asciilifeform: it is to be amputated ~whole~. no motherfucking stumps. [11:44]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417192 <<< current shiva is two steps away from even ~beginning~ the process of standardization. people with lisp experience will supply common but ultimately inconsequential conventions (hyphens plox!), but in general speaking, shiva's usage and lisp's general lack of practical usage or utility means that our work here will actually standardize LISP just as much as bitco [11:46]
mircea_popescu in. [11:46]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 07:13:15; phf: i don't imagine it matters at the moment, can always shuffle things [11:46]
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mircea_popescu from what i hear lisp is "already standardized". i personally am not terribly persuaded by this claim, but will entertain it on a technical basis as the cases may come. who knows, maybe gabriel was right and it is. [11:47]
mircea_popescu in vaguely related news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/4dc9de1ffa726de86d8a1e8b40be897e/tumblr_mh3h7n1FfW1qddd4so1_1280.jpg [11:48]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417213 << i think we'll have to give up the mp's select thing. it apparently doesn't work well enough, for reasons i/nobody can be bothered to debug, and besides, new ones will prolly constantly pop up. [11:51]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 07:36:14; phf: it's got mp's select on it, but yeah, line numbers might be better [11:51]
shinohai ;;later tell mod6 http://btcinfo.sdf.org/node.html <<< back above 70% xD [11:51]
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mircea_popescu so goes my faint, if generous but doomed attempt to rescue javascript. [11:51]
mircea_popescu fortunately btcbase does not actually need it as much as flat text. (there's a difference between text that's line-addressable and text that's paragraph-addressable.) [11:52]
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mircea_popescu you may think that "hey, so you just found your solution, have the machine put a ¶ or a § before each paragraph and an anchor on it", but no. flat text is fundamentally different from ADRESSABLE text in general, the "paragraph-addressable" is a least-offensive kludge. and yes trilema is written deliberately, and constantly, with a view to breaking addressability from outside. because that's the sort of text it is, an [11:54]
mircea_popescu d if it WERE addressable it'd just be shittier text. much like the uniform for a whore, some good things ruin other good things. [11:54]
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mircea_popescu and speaking of "good things that ruin other good things", is it generally obvious to the esteemed b-a WHY the movement to "more women in tech", "more women in army", "more women in bla-bla" trends ? i thought it is, but then again maybe i'm the only one to whom it is. [11:55]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417240 < [12:11]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 07:50:03; phf: signers is misguided, shows everyone participating in the press [12:11]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417252 << yep. [12:12]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 08:10:57; phf: main issue with using select on btcbase page, changing dom basically breaks all links [12:12]
mircea_popescu i've been spending the ~week since the various selectatron discussions meditating on the problem. i do not believe javascript is rescuable. not withstanding all the effort derps put into it, javascript is fundamentally a broken idea that for this reason can never be useful. [12:13]
mircea_popescu it's really one of those things that should never have been. [12:13]
mircea_popescu roughly speaking the equivalnt of a shelf of make-up in the workshop or "i wanna watch tv on my computor" sorta things. get a husband / get a tv set if that's what you're trying to do and get out of everyone's way. [12:14]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417268 << i'm not proposing the guy is right or wrong re editor to use, mind. still, culture shock. [12:16]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 08:22:54; punkman: mircea_popescu: .. supercute de-windows-ization : http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-02-27.log.html#t23:38:19 << I like the command line sure, but I find editing text without a mouse a hassle, same for trying to remember 1000 keyboard shortcuts for each of 100 apps, or having to spend 10 minutes to figure out obscure cli options to use something once. [12:16]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417288 << no, it's just made by cunts, in perl. [12:17]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 08:46:40; punkman: http://www.brainsturbator.com/posts/409/the-human-brain-is-a-piece-of-shit [12:17]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417292 << resulted in "o, what are you, some sort of lunatic discussing the matter ? THERE IS AN ACTIVE INQUIRY GOING" for a fucking decade. [12:18]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 09:00:26; punkman: 10 year inquiry that results in nothing in particular [12:18]
mircea_popescu then the SOPS goons wanna wonder why people don't give a shit about their nonsense. [12:18]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417308 << or even here. [12:19]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 09:14:05; punkman: not a bad idea to write down reading notes and share on mailing list [12:19]
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mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417306 << i always thought that's one of the better gems of lolcomedy in that thing. you see, it's so fucking abstract, it calls the things to get the list of messages, hurr durr. no magic strings here, we just do calls!!11 [12:20]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 09:13:37; ben_vulpes: what i appear to have forgotten since the last time i looked into this pit of snakes is that it calls all of the rpc functions in turn to construct the help list. [12:20]
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mircea_popescu roughly speaking the equivalent of a man who married a street whore, had a daughter with her somehow, and now that the girl's of age being almost 11and a half he is very fond of demonstrating to random passerbys in the street just how unlike her mother the youngun is, through the age old process of stuffing bills in her various articles of clothing as "see, she doesn't even take the stocks off!" [12:21]
mircea_popescu stockings* lol. [12:22]
mircea_popescu omfg. "users by lines, last 7 days 1.) asciilifeform 1490 2.) mircea_popescu 1276" << NOOOOOOOOO [12:25]
mircea_popescu i have been replaced!!1 [12:26]
mircea_popescu oh, and something for muscovites an' aspiring muscovites in the audience : http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc97rkXYRr1rfxsvfo1_1280.jpg [12:33]
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mircea_popescu admire the cast iron heating element, and all the stale memes. my adolescence screaming from the dusts of time! [12:33]
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shinohai http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417424 <<< quality [12:40]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 15:31:38; mircea_popescu: oh, and something for muscovites an' aspiring muscovites in the audience : http://36.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc97rkXYRr1rfxsvfo1_1280.jpg [12:40]
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shinohai https://github.com/indutny/bcoin#features <<< broken javascript, now with segwit support :D [13:11]
assbot GitHub - indutny/bcoin: Small bitcoin library for node.js and browsers ... ( http://bit.ly/1TL9Tiq ) [13:11]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417284 << wake me up when there is a 'lengthy public inquiry' into michael hastings. or slobo milosevich. or, ...... [13:34]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 08:31:50; punkman: "the release of the final report of a lengthy public inquiry into Mr. Litvinenko’s death." [13:34]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417227 << i think mircea_popescu would rather chew off his own fingers than pay programmers for whatever. [13:35]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 07:43:07; ben_vulpes: i recommend a thorough course of benjies, piped straight through the developer funnel. [13:35]
asciilifeform and i certainly see the point of view. [13:35]
mircea_popescu if this thing is constructed on that process, we've therefore got nothing. [13:35]
mircea_popescu red hat can also pay. [13:36]
asciilifeform aha! [13:36]
mircea_popescu once red hat can not also pay, for the printing press was smashed, then yes. not before. [13:36]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417373 << ahahahahaha [13:37]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 14:37:30; mircea_popescu: Оборонно-массовая и патриотическая работа, ie what the whores (see То знай: за честь должна считать Знакомство юнкерского хуя!) and their litter does. [13:37]
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mircea_popescu culture, alfie. [13:37]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417379 << now this is complicated. commonlisp is standardized (next to ada, ~the~ most standardized language - compliance is iron, and you can actually ~use~ it as per the standard) - BUT - massive, and unsuitable for inclusion in a larger proggy. scheme, on the other hand, is also well-standardized - r5rs (ignore r6 and after, the weevils got to it) BUT the language is unusably [13:39]
asciilifeform minimal as specified in r5, AND ts does not fully implement r5 (largely in the interest of fits-in-head, but also original author's laziness) [13:39]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 14:44:32; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417192 <<< current shiva is two steps away from even ~beginning~ the process of standardization. people with lisp experience will supply common but ultimately inconsequential conventions (hyphens plox!), but in general speaking, shiva's usage and lisp's general lack of practical usage or utility means that our work here will actually sta [13:39]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417383 << the real boojum is, shiva is EXACTLY the kind of scenario which produces ~atrocious~ lisps [13:39]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 14:45:10; mircea_popescu: from what i hear lisp is "already standardized". i personally am not terribly persuaded by this claim, but will entertain it on a technical basis as the cases may come. who knows, maybe gabriel was right and it is. [13:39]
asciilifeform i.e. emacs [13:39]
asciilifeform think about it, a lisp with 10,000,001 opaque c/cpp primitives [13:40]
asciilifeform stinks regardless of what else. [13:40]
asciilifeform this is one of the reasons i sat on shiva for as long as i did [13:40]
asciilifeform and still an rather unsure that it was a good idea [13:40]
asciilifeform *am [13:40]
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asciilifeform i dusted it off as a wartime wunderwaffen thing. [13:40]
mircea_popescu no, i am aware. [13:40]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417397 << scar tissue. [13:42]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 14:53:51; mircea_popescu: and speaking of "good things that ruin other good things", is it generally obvious to the esteemed b-a WHY the movement to "more women in tech", "more women in army", "more women in bla-bla" trends ? i thought it is, but then again maybe i'm the only one to whom it is. [13:42]
asciilifeform leads to moar scar tissue. [13:42]
asciilifeform elementary. [13:42]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417404 << it was made by shitpeople and thereby it could not have been anything but shit. [13:43]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 15:11:22; mircea_popescu: i've been spending the ~week since the various selectatron discussions meditating on the problem. i do not believe javascript is rescuable. not withstanding all the effort derps put into it, javascript is fundamentally a broken idea that for this reason can never be useful. [13:43]
asciilifeform i.e. 'brogrammers' fueled by 'jolt' and cardboard pizza [13:44]
asciilifeform folks who belonged at the plow. [13:44]
asciilifeform and were given a computer by catastrophic mistake of history. [13:44]
mircea_popescu leads to moar scar tissue. [13:44]
mircea_popescu what's that mean ? [13:44]
asciilifeform failure of a mechanical system, or even of meat organ, tends to be a cascading phenomenon [13:45]
mircea_popescu this is true. [13:45]
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mircea_popescu nevertheless, try an actual reasoning (ie, from causes) rather than a faux-fiatesque monstrosity (as to purposes) [13:52]
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asciilifeform how is 'gangrene produces more gangrene' not 'from cause' ? [13:53]
mircea_popescu produces. [13:54]
mircea_popescu "i do x because x produces y" is fundamentally THE forward-looking statement. [13:55]
asciilifeform rust catalyzes rust. there is no purpose baked into the statement. [13:55]
asciilifeform elementary 'x pushes y.' [13:56]
mircea_popescu "if no wind" [13:56]
asciilifeform aha [13:56]
asciilifeform ergo we learn that there was no wind. [13:56]
mircea_popescu this is the problem with forward-looking attempts at thought. [13:56]
mircea_popescu they end up baking in untested because unknown assumptions. [13:56]
mircea_popescu which is why it's not thought. [13:56]
mircea_popescu more generally, and for extensibility & standardization purposes, the canonical form : [13:57]
mircea_popescu "i do x because x IS y" < correct. thought. from cause. [13:57]
mircea_popescu "i do x because x OUGHT TO y" < wrong. non-thought. towards purpose. [13:57]
asciilifeform the first form only wins you anything if you've thoroughly nailed down the 'is' [13:58]
mircea_popescu all "produces" reduce to "ought to", easier for people who comprehend enough physics to know time is not a thing, but even for more pedestrian minds. [13:58]
mircea_popescu which is why i put the question in asciilifeform , the is is actually thoroughly nailed down for this scope. [13:58]
asciilifeform i suppose i'm thick, then [13:58]
asciilifeform let's have the canonical form ? [13:58]
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mircea_popescu women, not in the sense of individuals but in the sense of the mass monster they constitute in aggregate, are always and everywhere in favour of the state and the statu quo. [13:59]
mircea_popescu note that it is not said "have more WOMAN, as in, have more of the romanian chick at mit who wrote the ai guy's eulogy" [13:59]
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mircea_popescu it is "have more women". the statistical entity. [14:00]
mircea_popescu much like the 1st soviets would have said "have more politruk/comissars in the army", the 2nd soviets want more women, unspecified, in tech. [14:00]
mircea_popescu for the same reason - army could have overthrown soviets, tech can overthrow soviets etc. [14:00]
asciilifeform mr mold described it in precisely these terms. [14:00]
mircea_popescu no ?! [14:01]
asciilifeform yes. [14:01]
mircea_popescu linkplox ? [14:01]
mircea_popescu might be his best article then. [14:01]
* asciilifeform digs [14:01]
asciilifeform here's a small lul meanwhile, https://cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2016-February/012434.html [14:01]
assbot The Natseckers ... ( http://bit.ly/1n8am01 ) [14:01]
asciilifeform http://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/09/real-meaning-of-diversity.html << possibly this was it. [14:03]
assbot Unqualified Reservations: The real meaning of diversity ... ( http://bit.ly/1n8aCfp ) [14:03]
mircea_popescu anyway. to continue the thought - the usg and its ephemera are deeply and fundamentally antifeminist. they hate women as individuals and aim to exploit them as a mass. this is EXACTLY the situation of black people in the antebellum south : hated as individuals, exploited as a group. [14:03]
asciilifeform the 'party member in every lift'. [14:03]
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mircea_popescu ben and jerry's is ultrapremium icecream ? [14:04]
asciilifeform nfi. [14:04]
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mircea_popescu i don't see how this sawed off grenade made for the purpose of convincing kids not to make or use grenades you linked has anything at all to do with the bomb above, tbh. [14:06]
mircea_popescu maybe in a very generous reading ? [14:06]
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mircea_popescu but... he speaks of minorities. minorities are not women. what's the logic ? [14:06]
asciilifeform i'm not convinced that this is the correct link. [14:06]
mircea_popescu now im stuck reading another mile long pile of yarvinesque nonsense ? ;/ [14:06]
asciilifeform in fact, a good chunk of what i remember as 'moldbuggery' appears to be a synthesis that exists nowhere outside of my own head (and occasionally the logz) [14:06]
mircea_popescu haha [14:07]
asciilifeform but at any rate, he is speaking of something palpably real and known to virtually all usaschwitz inmates. [14:07]
asciilifeform 'there is to be a Party member in every lift.' [14:07]
mircea_popescu but this is not a matter of parties per se. it is not a matter of conviction, it is a matter of biology. [14:07]
asciilifeform 'there is not to be a physical space where you feel safe speaking' is the ultimate objective of all sov-style systems. [14:08]
mircea_popescu funny, let's ask allah [14:08]
mircea_popescu م أَلَمْ تَرَ أَنَّ اللَّهَ يَعْلَمُ مَا فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَمَا فِي الْأَرْضِ مَا يَكُونُ مِن نَّجْوَى ثَلا٠[14:09]
mircea_popescu ‹Ø«ÙŽØ©Ù إلاَّ هُوَ رَابِعُهُمْ وَلاَ خَمْسَةٍ إِلاَّ هُوَ سَادِسُهُمْ وَلاَ أَدْنَى مِن ذَلِكَ وَلاَ أَكْثَرَ إِ٠[14:09]
mircea_popescu „اَّ هُ٠[14:09]
mircea_popescu o.O [14:09]
asciilifeform my poor console [14:09]
mircea_popescu look at that, allah is not welcome in the logs! [14:09]
asciilifeform hey it worked when i did it [14:09]
mircea_popescu “Do you not see that Allah knows whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth? Nowhere is there a secret counsel between three persons but He is the fourth of them, nor (between) five but He is the sixth of them, nor less than that nor more but He is with them where ever they are; then He will inform them of what they did on the day of resurrection: surely Allah is Aware of all things.” [14:09]
asciilifeform allah likes utf-8. [14:09]
mircea_popescu there. another socialism. [14:09]
mircea_popescu which goes right back to a much older thread re arabs and women and how it all works. [14:10]
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asciilifeform and yes, totalitarian state consists of implementing in the flesh, precisely this. [14:10]
mircea_popescu islam is not specifically oppressive of women. it is merely opressive of INDIVIDUAL women enough so that the men may be persuaded to swallow socialism. [14:10]
asciilifeform 'subscribe and we'll help you hold her still for a spell' ? [14:10]
mircea_popescu that enough bar is necessarily higher in eastern societies, that aren't quite as fucktarded as anglotwerps, and so here we go. [14:10]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform allow me to quote from the prophet moar! [14:11]
mircea_popescu "172 – Rule: Men are allowed to speak to non-Mahram women as long as the following two conditions are met: It is not with the intention of lust. " [14:11]
mircea_popescu so... not even! subscribe and we'll give you one free cow! [14:11]
asciilifeform 'while supplies last!' [14:12]
mircea_popescu quite. [14:12]
mircea_popescu but in any case - do not talk to the ones that don't have the official allakhu-snackbar brand, [14:12]
mircea_popescu lest you hear evil things of sin and decide to throw all this crap in the septic tank where it belongs. [14:12]
asciilifeform sop. [14:13]
mircea_popescu (unrelatedly - i've re-read the arabic old texts. the previous time i did this they ended up in the fire. somehow, the shit's grown EVEN MORE offensive over the years. scarcely can explain this wonder - the people involved have been dead for a thousand years.) [14:13]
asciilifeform this works as well on ancient texts as on microshit [14:14]
mircea_popescu not on all. [14:14]
mircea_popescu augustus is as readable as ever. [14:14]
asciilifeform naturally not on all. only the psychiatrically-inspired ones. [14:14]
mircea_popescu or fine - should you protest virtue is cheap for the purpled - shakespeare, idem. and that man had absolutely no virtue. [14:14]
phf ben_vulpes: get-difficulty is a straight rip of the c from bitcoinrpc.cpp << correct way to do that one is to write get-index-best that returns block-index structure that you can get bits value from, and then have get-difficulty do all the equivalent calculations in scheme, bitshifting and all [14:15]
asciilifeform phf has it. [14:15]
mircea_popescu sounds pretty good. [14:15]
phf we don't have a way to serialize/deserialize yet, so the point is moot, but probably not for long [14:15]
asciilifeform the tricky bit is that for a while you end up with 2 routines that do (nominally) same thing [14:16]
asciilifeform but are uncoupled. [14:16]
asciilifeform hell on wheels. [14:16]
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phf well, luckily get-difficulty is only used in rpc, so can be nuked upon rewrite [14:17]
phf but yeah, much duplicate [14:17]
phf re standartization, issue i'm personally running into is that we can drag tinyscheme in the direction of common lisp or stick to scheme conventions. both have downsides [14:21]
mircea_popescu phf and do you take the further step and say "since all ambiguity is definitionally bad design, we prolly need to cut this knot at a higher level" ? [14:22]
asciilifeform phf: i'd go for whichever ~weighs less~ (and not in the idiot scheme community metric of 'the language weighs less') but THE AGGREGATE [14:22]
asciilifeform 'DoJ is required to cloak NSA-CIA capabilities by pretending full sharing does not take place. Redacted and excluded filings and decisions by DoJ, district, appeal, SCOTUS and FISA courts along with open and classified executive orders by and POTUS, and best of all, classified contracts, implements this. ... Going to court melodramatizes and sanitizes the bung-holing (like USG v. Apple) with in camera, withholding, stonewalli [14:26]
asciilifeform ng and denying.' << mega-l0l [14:26]
mircea_popescu lol [14:28]
mircea_popescu in other similar news, from the piece you linked, [14:28]
mircea_popescu The California Supreme Court took up its first diversity case in almost seven years today, agreeing to decide the legality of San Francisco's program that grants preferences for aryan contractors. The court granted a hearing on appeals by two companies that say the city ordinance violates Proposition 209, the 1996 initiative that outlawed aryan preferences in public contracting, employment and education [14:28]
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asciilifeform aha. [14:28]
asciilifeform mr mold, if this was not clear, was playing hofstadter's word-swap game. [14:29]
mircea_popescu yeah, and the result is actually not bad. [14:29]
asciilifeform quite. [14:29]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo might actually be a good idea for qntra to establish a standard procedure to do this. [14:29]
mircea_popescu there is really little cause to discuss usg behaviours in any other terms, and there's very good cause to NOT discuss it in the terms usg itself comes up with. [14:30]
mircea_popescu after all, no physch writes up disease in patient terms. [14:30]
* asciilifeform has followed this dictum since forever. [14:30]
mircea_popescu in general the first requirement of thought is "use language derived from the objects not the subjects" [14:31]
mircea_popescu of course, for some reason he calls it navrozov's [14:32]
asciilifeform briefly revisiting john young's thing on cpunks, 'full sharing' does not ~always~ take place. the lizards don't give a flying fuck re: a dead snackbar. [14:32]
asciilifeform glass cannons are fired when merited, e.g., 'silk road'. [14:33]
mircea_popescu aha. [14:33]
mircea_popescu "The commission found evidence that city staffers had failed to enforce diversity and had unfairly blamed aryan-owned firms for delays in projects." [14:33]
* asciilifeform bbl, food [14:34]
phf mircea_popescu: what would be a higher level here? [14:36]
mircea_popescu i have no fucking idea. [14:36]
mircea_popescu but ignorance is scarce defense. [14:37]
BingoBoingo BingoBoingo might actually be a good idea for qntra to establish a standard procedure to do this. << There already is. Tack a paragraph on top of it explaining its deviance from sanity and wrap the document as plaintext in block quotes [14:37]
phf to some extent init.scm is like a v patchset, functions referencing functions, which is in turn a popularity contest, except not directly supported by wot [14:37]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo i mean specific transforms. "minority groups" to be rendered "aryans". etc. would require some time spent with the fishwraps i guess. [14:38]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Aha [14:38]
mircea_popescu phf ithought we were disucssing the cl vs scheme thing ? [14:38]
mircea_popescu "Under the Republic an almost unlimited frankness in public utterances was tolerated and a considerable confusion of the mind, unfeigned and unabashed, was bared to everyone's inspection. Under the Dictatorship only one idea of political and philosophical relevance could be safely expressed. As a result, public utterances became uniform and, in the same proportion, insincere." heh. said of every republic ever. [14:39]
BingoBoingo "minority groups" likely transforms on its context to "political patrons" "loyal mobs" and "select demographics" [14:39]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo the power of this scheme, such as it is, is reductionism. specifically : map a large number of idiocies on the same (historical) term for similar idiocies. it is a dangerous gamble. [14:40]
mircea_popescu and of course never is the gamble discussed, or the mechanism for that matter. [14:40]
mircea_popescu afair hofstadter doesn't, at leasty. [14:41]
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ben_vulpes phf: ah! serialization. [14:44]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I'll give this some more though today as I take my turn at the homestead clearing debris [14:44]
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ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417563 << right, good point. what other commands aren't candidates for porting? [14:47]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 17:15:33; phf: well, luckily get-difficulty is only used in rpc, so can be nuked upon rewrite [14:47]
ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417448 << btcfs, btcos, btclisp... [14:51]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 16:37:49; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417383 << the real boojum is, shiva is EXACTLY the kind of scenario which produces ~atrocious~ lisps [14:51]
phf ben_vulpes: i meant original can be nuked [14:55]
ben_vulpes oh i see [14:56]
mircea_popescu btw, asciilifeform any clue as to why he has it in for powell ? would it be anything other than the man's notice in the supreme court record that a woman raped sustains thereby no serious or lasting injury ? [14:57]
phf "I’m a Former Green Beret and Here’s How I Would Bring Down Bitcoin" wtf [15:02]
phf i think that was in logs, but i just parsed that header [15:02]
BingoBoingo phf: The content was basically remedial destructive social engineering [15:08]
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phf ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/patches/phf-shiva-swank#L373 [16:27]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417611 << nfi [17:21]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 17:55:44; mircea_popescu: btw, asciilifeform any clue as to why he has it in for powell ? would it be anything other than the man's notice in the supreme court record that a woman raped sustains thereby no serious or lasting injury ? [17:21]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417621 << this is spiffy but why did you have to put getunixtime as a primop??!! [17:22]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 19:25:19; phf: ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/patches/phf-shiva-swank#L373 [17:22]
asciilifeform there are only so many empty primop slots [17:22]
asciilifeform i dun get it [17:22]
asciilifeform could've lived happily as an ordinary routine. [17:23]
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phf asciilifeform: i'm not convinced yet one way or another. "ordinary routine" in tinyscheme is considered to be a crossboundary ffi, and is only enabled when building non-standalone [17:47]
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kakobrekla o hey http://classic-cloud.net [17:50]
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phf i was thinking that get-unix-time is a language feature, that's bedrock (i.e. being able to query wallclock), and can be used to build other abstractions on time, right now used for timing, but should be used as base for get-universal-time/decode-universal-time/get-decoded-time [17:51]
phf *on top [17:51]
kakobrekla redditards also report Well, the DDoSer(s) are hitting my home network now. Can't use my internet. I have been running a Classic node., DDOS on Classic nodes, DDoS started again. Have a nice day, guys :) [17:52]
shinohai hue [17:52]
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BingoBoingo hello [18:09]
botneko-chan Hi [18:09]
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BingoBoingo What brings you around these parts today? [18:11]
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botneko-chan kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-02-2016#1416114 < whomever is ddosing f2pool pleae contact me and ill contribute to your efforts [18:14]
assbot Logged on 26-02-2016 18:41:28; punkman: lol "@petertodd: Whomever is DoS attacking f2pool please stop. You're only making it harder to come to consensus." [18:14]
botneko-chan is that guy here? [18:14]
mircea_popescu what guy [18:15]
botneko-chan kakobrekla [18:15]
mircea_popescu yeah, he is. [18:15]
botneko-chan What's his nickname? [18:15]
mircea_popescu ... [18:15]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla lol [18:16]
botneko-chan Don't see him online [18:16]
mircea_popescu i guess your irc is broken. [18:16]
mircea_popescu ;;seen kakobrekla [18:17]
botneko-chan Maybe, I'm using web irc [18:17]
mircea_popescu apparently, gribble also broken [18:17]
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gribble kakobrekla was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 24 minutes and 32 seconds ago: redditards also report Well, the DDoSer(s) are hitting my home network now. Can't use my internet. I have been running a Classic node., DDOS on Classic nodes, DDoS started again. Have a nice day, guys :) [18:17]
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kakobrekla oh what a turmoil in b-a [18:20]
kakobrekla botneko-chan are you ddosing f2pool? [18:20]
botneko-chan not [18:21]
botneko-chan but I'm ddosing classic nodes [18:21]
botneko-chan can ddos pool too for $ [18:21]
kakobrekla am i think or whats the point of ddosing nodes, its the blocks that count. [18:21]
botneko-chan Will be ddosing pools after some time [18:22]
mircea_popescu botneko-chan suppose you get yourself a key, get in the wot. [18:22]
botneko-chan what does "wot" mean? I'm non-native speeker [18:23]
mircea_popescu web of trust. [18:23]
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mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ [18:24]
assbot What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1NpJ1vR ) [18:24]
botneko-chan kakobrekla do you want to pay for pool ddos? We can talk privately, my xmpp adress is ddosservice@sj.ms [18:25]
kakobrekla we can talk about that but we can do it on irc and its advised to get in the wot first or else i wont know who im talking to soon [18:27]
mircea_popescu in other news, http://45.media.tumblr.com/51ed62e8e314a2ff1bcd13939c97b495/tumblr_mo98qd6baF1qlne6uo1_400.gif [18:27]
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asciilifeform l0l megastarfish [18:27]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform competence exists in all fields. [18:27]
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asciilifeform quite! [18:28]
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asciilifeform phun phakt: 'libreboot' won't build without 'unifont' [19:25]
asciilifeform a GRUB2 TURD [19:25]
asciilifeform MOTHERFUCKERS [19:26]
asciilifeform whole project is a sad joke [19:26]
asciilifeform and i'm the only one, it seems, who knows this? [19:26]
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asciilifeform https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-grub/2014-09/msg00002.html << folks complained in 2014, latest ver STILL DOES [19:27]
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asciilifeform !s grub2 [19:28]
assbot 16 results for 'grub2' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=grub2 [19:28]
asciilifeform ^ see also. [19:28]
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ben_vulpes neat phf [19:31]
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mats libreboot doesn't exclude turds as part of its philosophy iirc [19:45]
BingoBoingo More accurate: Libreboot is perfectly happy to include turds so long as they have an RMS approved license [19:46]
phf rms doesn't see вредительство as a problem, but it's also the kind of a problem for which there's no technical solution [19:48]
phf ("wrecking") [19:51]
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asciilifeform phf: aha, he had a rather odd reaction when confronted with the libnss thing back in the day [19:56]
asciilifeform how do you tell a man that he's munchausen's horse ? [19:56]
asciilifeform https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/Gottfried_Franz_-_Munchhausen_with_a_half-horse.jpg << that one. [19:57]
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mircea_popescu phf whart do you mean not technical solution ? [20:12]
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phf it's not clear to me how to enforce it without human in the loop. a monkey can enforce gpl, but it takes thinking human in the loop to identify a wrecker code [20:32]
mircea_popescu well, if there is wrecker code there's probably a systematic problem at work [20:33]
mircea_popescu imo gpl/gnu/foss/blabla is all sunk by the fact that they wish to oppose SOME effects of socialism, while staying socialist. [20:34]
mircea_popescu put a wot in there, give up on the idea that people are fungible, problem goes away. [20:34]
mircea_popescu i suppose this would still be a human as opposed to "technical" problem. [20:37]
phf but those are all social solutions. [20:37]
mircea_popescu but on thinking about it, i guess in the end i disagree there even could be such a thing as a technical problem. [20:37]
mircea_popescu not that the abstract notion isn't tempting. but i fear it may well be one of those, dwim things. [20:38]
kakobrekla !rate botneko-chan 1 on the right side of the fight [20:38]
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asciilifeform a 'technical problem' is simply shorthand for problem where the solution is extremely well-defined. e.g., wire is broken, does not conduct, telegraph does not go. solution is technical - mend wire. [20:38]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla did you verify he's actually doing anything ? [20:38]
kakobrekla yes [20:38]
kakobrekla !v assbot:kakobrekla.rate.botneko-chan.1:372fe5c6cd69890f7a019e85895ee222c172f71dbea35edc85cca5a1a845d1fc [20:39]
assbot Successfully added a rating of 1 for botneko-chan with note: on the right side of the fight [20:39]
mircea_popescu botneko-chan post an addy, i'll send you some on the strength of his word. [20:39]
asciilifeform since when do we particularly need to ddos anybody..? [20:39]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform "wire is broken because it's in the path of foxes to chicken coop" ? [20:39]
asciilifeform am i thick? [20:39]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform we don't. but i'm giving moneyz to girls that go topless. why not to guys that live on own two feet ? [20:39]
phf well, technical solution to social problem is the one where you get a social system running, come back in 30 years, the expected output is still present, even if perhaps diminished [20:39]
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mircea_popescu at least this fellow i won't have to persuade about the benefits of you know, getting the fuck out of the us. [20:40]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i think ddosers live on six feet. [20:40]
mircea_popescu heh howssat ? [20:40]
asciilifeform like all insecta [20:41]
mircea_popescu phf wherein the dtime and dresult are a measurement of the idiocy of the people involved. [20:41]
mircea_popescu ie, if they're dumb as rocks, no variance in result. [20:41]
phf right, but that's a feature [20:44]
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botneko-chan 1FVmpGHMPqQDvRFFuDSJj9xBsB3WS4QjD :) [20:45]
botneko-chan I'll keep ddosing classic for month and also going to try ddos pool mining it [20:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34363 @ 0.00058692 = 20.1683 BTC [+] {3} [20:46]
mircea_popescu eh, relax an' have fun. [20:49]
botneko-chan Thanks :) [20:49]
botneko-chan Lol I'm hhaving. Actually I more love fun from ddos, money is a good bonus [20:50]
punkman botneko-chan: was anyone else paying for ddos on nodes/pools? [20:51]
botneko-chan There's one man ordered ddos [20:52]
botneko-chan I don't know who, actually I'm working with another guy that talks with clients [20:52]
punkman cool [20:53]
botneko-chan Even if I would I wouldn't say, client must remain anonymous [20:53]
punkman hey now there's an answer for http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-01-2016#1374471 [20:56]
assbot Logged on 17-01-2016 17:05:27; DerpUnion: are there any plans on attking any xchgs/processors who switch to classic [20:56]
punkman except no need for "plans" [20:56]
botneko-chan currently no [21:00]
botneko-chan The main principle of cool ddos is: you give $ for bandwith and $ for us and we have fun all month [21:02]
mircea_popescu botneko-chan anyway, prolly should read the logs. [21:03]
botneko-chan Who (or what?) is prolly? [21:04]
mircea_popescu probably, shortened. [21:04]
kakobrekla as far as we discussed he understands the blockchain size problems or the lack of there of. [21:04]
botneko-chan ah, ok. I'm non native speaker, shortened eng sometimes hard for me [21:05]
mircea_popescu just in general speaking. [21:05]
BingoBoingo http://qntra.net/2016/02/foscam-internet-of-shit-seekoority-camera-phones-home-peers-with-other-cameras/ [21:06]
assbot Foscam Internet Of Shit "Seekoority" Camera Phones Home, Peers With Other Cameras | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Qej0ok ) [21:06]
botneko-chan yay [21:07]
botneko-chan like internet of shit so much [21:07]
BingoBoingo ty [21:07]
botneko-chan have botnet of routers more than 2 times bigger than Core's network [21:08]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17300 @ 0.00058232 = 10.0741 BTC [-] [21:09]
asciilifeform !up adlai [21:09]
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punkman is anyone making smart-tv/fridge/microwave botnets yet? [21:11]
kakobrekla add wifi laundry washing machines to the list. [21:12]
botneko-chan These aren't so widespread [21:12]
BingoBoingo Yet [21:12]
botneko-chan yep [21:12]
punkman pretty sure this was in the logs, but couldn't find it http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-24707337 [21:12]
assbot Russia: Hidden chips 'launch spam attacks from irons' - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1QejMS2 ) [21:12]
mircea_popescu lol. FLATTENED BY IRONING IRONS! [21:15]
mircea_popescu oh the irony. [21:15]
adlai good morning #b-a [21:15]
asciilifeform punkman: ancient news [21:15]
asciilifeform the teapot case. [21:15]
asciilifeform some electric tea kettles were found to be 50g overweight each at customs. [21:19]
asciilifeform spamatron, searched for open 802.11. [21:19]
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asciilifeform !up molz [21:24]
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botneko-chan they banned me on /r/Bitcoin_Classic [21:24]
botneko-chan booooring [21:24]
molz asciilifeform: thanks :) [21:24]
asciilifeform molz: and who might you be ? [21:25]
botneko-chan ant then they say that there is no censorship on classic/xt while core is censored [21:25]
molz asciilifeform: a bitcoin fan [21:25]
molz what's this channel about? [21:25]
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asciilifeform molz: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com [21:28]
assbot start [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1T3HRP6 ) [21:28]
punkman this month's cellar pick: https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6171/6179728104_4e701c0f30_b.jpg [21:30]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1T3HVyo ) [21:30]
punkman get it before the venezuelans burn it all down [21:30]
mircea_popescu molz ideally, read the logs. [21:30]
molz mircea_popescu: very interesting, love it [21:30]
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kakobrekla fast reader [21:32]
molz are you guys on bitcoin core slack? [21:32]
mircea_popescu !s trb [21:33]
assbot 516 results for 'trb' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=trb [21:33]
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mod6 ben_vulpes: re shiva, cool that you're getting into that! [22:08]
mod6 asciilifeform: re yesterday (line 47) of some version of the V99997 build script.... I took a look at the one that was deedbot'd and that line was correct. [22:09]
mod6 i dunno where that other version came from. [22:09]
mod6 i'll dig it up, but none the less, everyone should be using v99995 now [22:09]
mod6 thanks to whomever updated the wiki [22:10]
mod6 anyway, here is the deedbotted v99997K (http://deedbot.org/build-bitcoind-99997K.sh) -- but this is obsolete. DO NOT USE. [22:11]
mircea_popescu how was teh vacation mod6 ? [22:11]
mod6 nice :] [22:11]
mod6 really quite helpful to just relax for a couple of days. [22:12]
mod6 shinohai: cool! maybe take a backup at somepoint before you get to 100% so incase of power-cycle you won't have to start over from genesis. [22:12]
mod6 mircea_popescu: how's everything been around here [22:13]
mod6 ? [22:13]
mircea_popescu pretty good, actually. [22:13]
mod6 good deal. [22:13]
mod6 ;;ticker [22:13]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 435.69, Best ask: 435.7, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 435.69, 24 hour volume: 16224.04349694, 24 hour low: 422.1, 24 hour high: 437.89, 24 hour vwap: None [22:13]
mircea_popescu heh you're even richer than when you left! [22:14]
mod6 haha. [22:14]
mod6 my favorite. [22:14]
mod6 ;;bc,stats [22:14]
gribble Current Blocks: 400471 | Current Difficulty: 1.6349165490895926E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 401183 | Next Difficulty In: 712 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 5 days, 12 hours, 27 minutes, and 54 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None [22:14]
mod6 it's been weird to even be afk for 24 hours. [22:15]
mircea_popescu breaks do a body good. [22:18]
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mircea_popescu and in other pre-porn news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/2b8e16a7eb6146a88171856b7b971dbd/tumblr_mniti61WFw1qlne6uo1_1280.jpg [22:19]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1OGxhG4 ) [22:19]
mod6 <+mircea_popescu> breaks do a body good. << yeah for sure. and i think it totally helps to step back and see the entire forest through the trees. [22:20]
mod6 in scheme news, i learned how to read a file and print it out the screen. lol [22:21]
mod6 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417559 << we're gonna need a whole lot of procedures. I'm excited to see all of your submissions. [22:22]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 17:13:58; phf: we don't have a way to serialize/deserialize yet, so the point is moot, but probably not for long [22:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40000 @ 0.00058001 = 23.2004 BTC [-] [22:31]
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mod6 i'll check back in later all! <3 [22:56]
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punkman http://www.madcowprod.com/2016/02/22/dripping-blood-a-severed-arm-67-tons-of-cash-on-a-cia-plane/ [23:13]
assbot Dripping blood, a severed arm, & 67 tons of cash on a CIA plane | MadCowNews ... ( http://bit.ly/1XU07d5 ) [23:13]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-02-2016#1417816 << now i ~really~ would like to know where hdbuck got it. [23:36]
assbot Logged on 29-02-2016 01:07:38; mod6: i dunno where that other version came from. [23:36]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform does readelf ever run the elf ?! [23:37]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: no, why?! [23:37]
asciilifeform not as printed on the box, at least! [23:37]
mircea_popescu because weird reports from guy re eulora lol. [23:37]
asciilifeform let's have it ? [23:37]
mircea_popescu http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-02-29.log.html#t02:33:25 [23:37]
assbot #Eulora log for Monday, 2016-02-29 ... ( http://bit.ly/1XU2axZ ) [23:37]
mircea_popescu i never heard of such thing in lyfe. [23:37]
asciilifeform oh for fucks sake [23:38]
asciilifeform the highlight. [23:38]
mircea_popescu what ? [23:38]
asciilifeform nm, found with manual grep [23:38]
asciilifeform HIGHLIGHTING DOES NOT WORK [23:38]
mircea_popescu dun tell me THIS doesn't work either [23:38]
mircea_popescu oh come on. [23:38]
asciilifeform nope. [23:38]
pete_dushenski "danielpbarron: It autocompletes ./euclient" << top line on my box [23:38]
mircea_popescu a href="#t00:21:04" class="time">00:21 << your browser is VERY broken [23:38]
asciilifeform srsly i have six boxes here with 6 browsers and not one. [23:39]
mircea_popescu i don't care. if it doesn't select correctly on a href anchor it's so broken it wouldn't qualify as a browser in 1995. [23:39]
asciilifeform but at any rate, if indeed 'readelf opened the game', this is a discovery and ought to be reproduced. [23:39]
mircea_popescu yeah but dun work here. [23:40]
mircea_popescu course i'm not installing fucking zorin or w/e the thing is called [23:40]
asciilifeform wtf even is that [23:40]
mircea_popescu "ubuntu more like windows" [23:40]
asciilifeform try and at least persuade him to post his readelf binary. [23:40]
mircea_popescu a yeah [23:41]
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pete_dushenski fwiw b-a logs always and everywhere seem to link correctly. maybe eulora logs need some of that kako magic pixie dust ? [23:45]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2016#1417045 << weird. this works. [23:46]
assbot Logged on 28-02-2016 00:05:52; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ben_vulpes and everyone else into supercute de-windows-ization : http://logs.minigame.bz/2016-02-27.log.html#t23:38:19 [23:46]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: say at least where you actually saw the highlight thing ~work~ [23:49]
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pete_dushenski it works on archive.is, does it not ? [23:49]
asciilifeform (on what wwwtrons) [23:49]
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asciilifeform pete_dushenski: i suspect that it is a js thing [23:50]
pete_dushenski as it is on trilema iirc [23:50]
asciilifeform same one ? [23:50]
asciilifeform bitwise ? [23:50]
pete_dushenski ^ mircea_popescu [23:51]
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pete_dushenski "SSD UBER rates are higher than disk rates, which means that backing up SSDs is even more important than it is with disks. The SSD is less likely to fail during its normal life, but more likely to lose data." << from punkman's link. [23:54]
asciilifeform soooo in other nyooz, [23:55]
asciilifeform i recently built what i believe is an exact replica of rms's laptop [23:56]
asciilifeform 'thinkpad x60' with libreboot and replacement ('atheros') nic [23:56]
asciilifeform it is unusable. [23:56]
asciilifeform cpu overheats when building gentoo. [23:56]
asciilifeform almost certainly because the compatibility was a bold-faced lie, and the cpu 'frequency scaling' thing doesn't work. [23:57]
asciilifeform (explicitly admitted to in the docs, but somehow 'this doesn't matter') [23:57]
BingoBoingo Is the heatsink appropriately copper colored or is it laminated with tar? [23:58]
asciilifeform solid cu. [23:58]
asciilifeform and, again, this is not something that happens normally. [23:59]
BingoBoingo ah [23:59]
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