Forum logs for 27 Nov 2013

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu

*	Now talking on #bitcoin-assets	[08:59]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading \|\| http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com - all days worth reading \| kakobrekla is a bitbet shill	[08:59]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Tue Nov 26 04:20:21 2013	[08:59]
dexX7	TAT_Investments: you're around?	[09:09]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.03303003 = 0.1321 BTC [-] {2}	[09:16]
pankkake	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.0 this stinks	[09:17]
ozbot	[BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process	[09:17]
pankkake	thankfully I don't have much neobee…	[09:17]
dexX7	that's why i was looking for tat hehe	[09:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 13 @ 0.03300006 = 0.429 BTC [-] {3}	[09:17]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 94 @ 0.00350006 = 0.329 BTC [+]	[09:18]
pankkake	bitfunder can't pay	[09:20]
pankkake	but why would neobee do anything to help?	[09:20]
pankkake	first btc bailout? :\|	[09:21]
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BingoBoingo	Oh, shit! This is looking just like last fall and winter!	[09:22]
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BingoBoingo	If the NeoBee guy didn't refer to Ukyo as Jon I'd think he was refering to Oliver/Usagi	[09:23]
mircea_popescu	ouch.	[09:24]
mircea_popescu	if i hadn't told the guy to be careful who he mixes up with, it'd be one thing ;/	[09:24]
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pankkake	general incompetence I guess	[09:25]
pankkake	if by features you mean bugs	[09:25]
BingoBoingo	Last year there was just one GLBSE. This year there was BTC-TC and Buttfunder. The big question is the growth rate of fail exchanges additive and we get to watch 3 die or is it going to be exponential and 4 die?	[09:26]
pankkake	I haven't looked at whac crypto-trade is doing	[09:26]
pankkake	but btcinvest is not going to end well	[09:26]
BingoBoingo	truffles: Bitfunder can't pay because they tried backing a commodity with purchases of this maybe in an attempt to short BTC against fiat? http://www.alibaba.com/product-tp/142517860/Private_Label_Personal_Lubricant.html	[09:27]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves ^	[09:27]
BingoBoingo	pankkake: btcinvest was TradeFortress so that is already beyond fucked	[09:28]
BingoBoingo	truffles: Check the minimum order quantity	[09:28]
pankkake	BingoBoingo: hmm no the other one. btcinve.com	[09:28]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo look on the bright side : the sinking of glbse meant ~5k off the hands of innocent investors btc gone-gone	[09:28]
mircea_popescu	btctc + weex dissolved maybe 1-2k of actual investors funds, not counting what paper worth of related parties was sunk.	[09:29]
mircea_popescu	there will probably be more than 8 "exchanges" gone in 2014,	[09:29]
mircea_popescu	taking with them maybe 100 btc	[09:29]
mircea_popescu	one's an exponential going up, the other however's an exponential going down.	[09:29]
mircea_popescu	by 2020 we will have 10 exchanges fold up each week, for a total loss of fiddy satoshi.	[09:30]
BingoBoingo	mircea_popescu: I find all of these failings beneficial to me. The mere existence of GLBSE and Pirateat40 did how much to artificially suppress BTC against fiat in 2012?	[09:30]
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mircea_popescu	who's to know exactly. the guy did get publicly humiliated when he tried to "manipulate" the exchange rate.	[09:31]
dexX7	who?	[09:31]
dexX7	nefario?	[09:31]
mircea_popescu	pirate.	[09:31]
dexX7	ah	[09:31]
mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/353/bitcoin-price-to-rise-above-1000/	[09:32]
ozbot	BitBet - Bitcoin price to rise above $1000	[09:32]
mircea_popescu	i love how this bet went	[09:32]
mircea_popescu	nonononoyesyesyesyes	[09:33]
jurov`	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348468.0 ThickAsThieves can you confirm this?	[09:34]
ozbot	[BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process	[09:34]
jurov`	oh already posted	[09:35]
ozbot	[BitFunder] Asset Exchange Marketplace + Rewritable Options Trading	[09:36]
mircea_popescu	what's "Rewritable Options Trading" supposed to mean anyway	[09:37]
jurov`	their options were rewritable somehow.. dunno what it means, never actually used them due to exorbitant fees	[09:38]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 279 @ 0.00210821 = 0.5882 BTC [-] {2}	[09:39]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3801 BTC [+]	[09:41]
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Venat	does Opera 18 have no turbo mode anymore	[09:50]
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pankkake	they renamed it to NSA mode	[10:02]
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Venat	pankkake,	[10:05]
Venat	i am watching you on the forums	[10:05]
Venat	http://dailyanimeart.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/eren-will-make-them-pay.png	[10:05]
pankkake	:o	[10:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.0904 = 0.3616 BTC [-]	[10:09]
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Venat	anyways	[10:11]
Venat	whats up with tradefortress	[10:11]
BingoBoingo	Venat: Seems he is slowly fading away	[10:12]
Venat	well	[10:12]
Venat	is he a scammer now or a victim	[10:12]
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BingoBoingo	Venat: You see that is a very Bitcoin problem. Because he can't pay everyone back he is a scammer whether he was actually hacked or if he is simply stealing the coins himself.	[10:14]
BingoBoingo	Venat: He could be both scammer and victim	[10:14]
pankkake	some scammers try to paint themselves as incompetent (labcoin)	[10:14]
pankkake	realsolid, interestingly, is very competent	[10:14]
pankkake	he could probably run successful businesses honestly	[10:14]
Venat	he claimed to have most of the funds in cold storage	[10:15]
Venat	thats the thing that itches me the most	[10:15]
Venat	tho i didnt use inputs.io (gladly)	[10:15]
pankkake	yeah, that's either a lie, or incompetence	[10:15]
pankkake	I did use it for short period of times… but always treated it as something I could lose	[10:15]
pankkake	the link to coinlenders was the most bothering	[10:16]
BingoBoingo	In the most flattering case TradeFortress was a victim of his own hubris keeping that kind of coin on a server	[10:16]
Venat	but what was the benefit of putting your money in input.io	[10:16]
Venat	and wasnt coinlenders something like btcjam?	[10:16]
BingoBoingo	RealSolid doesn't strike me as particularly competent pankkake	[10:16]
pankkake	mcxnow was working very well	[10:16]
mircea_popescu	there is a huge difference between being competent and working well.	[10:17]
mircea_popescu	let me demonstrate this : i am a well working random number generator now. here are some random numbers :	[10:17]
mircea_popescu	932611793105118548074462379962749567351885752724891227938183011949129833673362440656643086021394946395224737190702179860943702770539217176293176752384674818467669405132000568127145263560	[10:17]
mircea_popescu	i am also very incompetent. here are the "random" numbers : http://www.piday.org/million/	[10:18]
BingoBoingo	I mean real Solid claims to have written McxNow in C++, but that might only be because his only programming experience is forking the Bitcoin client which is in C++	[10:18]
mircea_popescu	Venat it was btcjam with only one borrower (ther owner)	[10:19]
mircea_popescu	so it's the same thing, except rather than guaranteed monthly bleed you get guaranteed ragnarok.	[10:19]
Venat	one big default	[10:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 227 @ 0.00210899 = 0.4787 BTC [+]	[10:27]
Venat	;;ticker	[10:27]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 969.70504, Best ask: 977.79524, Bid-ask spread: 8.09020, Last trade: 969.70504, 24 hour volume: 30132.87529663, 24 hour low: 856.0, 24 hour high: 983.99, 24 hour vwap: 924.57275	[10:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 13 @ 0.03300009 = 0.429 BTC [+] {2}	[10:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.0904 = 0.3616 BTC [-]	[10:30]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2533 @ 0.00082913 = 2.1002 BTC [+] {2}	[10:54]
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mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2013/it-working-and-you-being-competent/	[11:02]
ozbot	It working and you being competent pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[11:02]
mircea_popescu	(mentioning BingoBoingo and pankkake )	[11:03]
markedathome	mircea_popescu: shouldn't the bitbet litecoin above 20usd be closed?	[11:03]
mircea_popescu	did it make it ?	[11:03]
markedathome	around 9-10hrs ago, stands at around 20.85 now, hit 22.7999	[11:05]
mircea_popescu	a ok. so leave a comment there with a link	[11:05]
mircea_popescu	i'm sure mods will close it as soon as they get to it.	[11:05]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.37111 = 0.7422 BTC [-]	[11:06]
BingoBoingo	Nicely put mircea_popescu, I wonder how many times the US (and apparently nao French) educational system's products are going to have you essentially repeat it again until the Republic of Bitcoin replaces them	[11:07]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.37111 BTC [-]	[11:07]
pankkake	I left a comment but it doesn't appear	[11:07]
mircea_popescu	i r hoping to just link	[11:07]
mircea_popescu	pankkake hmm i don't see it, but i just futzed with the comment thing	[11:08]
mircea_popescu	mind leaving it again ?	[11:08]
pankkake	that's why I asked :) something weird happened	[11:08]
pankkake	"Duplicate comment detected; it looks as though you've already said that!"	[11:08]
pankkake	"Sorry, we only accept comments sent by actual human beings." when I alter it	[11:09]
mircea_popescu	wow.	[11:10]
mircea_popescu	1 sec	[11:10]
Venat	I never get mentioned	[11:10]
pankkake	Venat: it's actually quite easy, just stay stupid stuff all day	[11:11]
pankkake	at least that's my method	[11:11]
Venat	like this guy:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347637.0	[11:11]
pankkake	though the SSW article doesn't mention me	[11:11]
Venat	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=347637.0	[11:11]
ozbot	Can anyone donate me 50 - 60 Bitcoins?	[11:11]
Venat	sorry for double post	[11:11]
mircea_popescu	pankkake try again please ?	[11:11]
Venat	sorry for double post	[11:11]
mircea_popescu	alter it slightly, and wait like 5 seconds on the page before clicking submit	[11:12]
pankkake	still not working	[11:12]
pankkake	oh	[11:12]
mircea_popescu	(if you post too soon the script figures hi there spambot)	[11:12]
pankkake	when I used Spam Karma it had that feature. but spambots learned. at least the good ones	[11:12]
pankkake	it werked!	[11:13]
mircea_popescu	i actually have a housebrew	[11:13]
Venat	I will try to contrain myself then.	[11:13]
pankkake	well I got no error	[11:13]
pankkake	but comment doesn't show	[11:13]
mircea_popescu	it does nao	[11:13]
mircea_popescu	this still needs soem working.	[11:13]
pankkake	Venat: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=308405.0 and then there's this guy	[11:14]
Venat	Yakuza699. I lolled	[11:14]
mircea_popescu	pankkake pls to make a test comment ?	[11:14]
pankkake	made it	[11:15]
pankkake	still doesn't show	[11:15]
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pankkake	usually when it's waiting for moderation, wp shows it to you anyway	[11:16]
mircea_popescu	you get sent to spam	[11:18]
mircea_popescu	person that broke it is nao trying to see wtf.	[11:18]
pankkake	by the way this works great as a first defense http://web-profile.com.ua/wordpress/plugins/anti-spam/	[11:19]
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mircea_popescu	pankkake mind trying yet again ?	[11:21]
pankkake	still not werking	[11:22]
mircea_popescu	holy shit	[11:22]
pankkake	perhaps when you get to spam once you always get into it	[11:23]
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mircea_popescu	well yeah because a test email went in fine.	[11:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39 BTC [+]	[11:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00210899 = 0.2109 BTC [+]	[11:28]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3400 @ 0.00008879 = 0.3019 BTC [+]	[11:29]
pankkake	subscribers should probably not even be in the spam filter	[11:29]
pankkake	yeah, tried same IP, but another mail, and it shows me the comment	[11:30]
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mircea_popescu	yeah.	[11:32]
mircea_popescu	butts ?	[11:32]
pankkake	yes	[11:32]
Venat	;;seen ukyo	[11:42]
gribble	ukyo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 4 days, 13 hours, 13 minutes, and 57 seconds ago: mgio: pm	[11:42]
Venat	http://pastebin.com/VnYL63dr in a related note	[11:46]
ozbot	The Unofficial Q&A - Pastebin.com	[11:46]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.398 BTC [+]	[12:01]
pankkake	I fail to see any actual info	[12:03]
ThickAsThieves	I think the info squeezed out so far is because Ukyo reall thought the "real" announcement would be ready yesterday, but there are details that need more time to sort. I prefer whole, complete announcements, but I'm guessing Ukyo couldn't go longer without something being shared.	[12:06]
ThickAsThieves	Don't bother asking me any substantive questions about it that aren't already answered. Like I said, I want the whole thing to be clearly announced, to shareholders first, when ready.	[12:08]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 1 @ 0.121 BTC [+]	[12:12]
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mircea_popescu	pankkake should be fixed. pls to check.	[12:36]
pankkake	yes!	[12:36]
mircea_popescu	so the way it works : any user can link to trilema articles without impediment.	[12:37]
mircea_popescu	outside links put whitelisted users into approve queue, and unwhitelisted users into spam queue.	[12:37]
mircea_popescu	otherwise whitelisted users go to published directly ; unwhitelisted users go into approve queue.	[12:38]
mircea_popescu	whitelisted = having had a comment approved.	[12:38]
mircea_popescu	in other news,	[12:40]
mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=343150.msg3734211#msg3734211	[12:40]
ozbot	BitBet Scammed me for 10 BTC (properly formatted)	[12:40]
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mircea_popescu	http://bitbet.us/bet/623/litecoin-ltc-to-rise-above-20usd-each-before/ now closed markedathome	[12:50]
ozbot	BitBet - Litecoin (LTC) to rise above 20USD each before Dec 25th	[12:50]
mircea_popescu	incredible bet of 18 hours jeez.	[12:50]
markedathome	thanks - do you know	[12:51]
*	markedathome is now confused	[12:52]
mircea_popescu	the comments there are pretty lol.	[12:53]
pankkake	and people who send after the fact, yet again!	[12:54]
markedathome	I am slightly confused, does the bet start from the issue of the address or when a bet is confirmed on the blockchain	[12:54]
pankkake	first confirm	[12:54]
mircea_popescu	pankkake yup.	[12:55]
markedathome	I was one of the refunded bets, I hadn't noticed it had gone over because I was banging my head having to export and reimport keys and get updated balances. At least I haven't lost it	[12:56]
mircea_popescu	next time send without fee.	[12:56]
markedathome	it was to do with not having used electrum for a long time, the wallet was out of sync.	[12:57]
pankkake	I thought Electrum didn't need to sync?	[12:57]
markedathome	and because of the pruning it was a complete pain	[12:57]
markedathome	it doesn't but I kept syncing with a <10,000 servers which is only 70 days of tx	[12:59]
markedathome	not to mention the wallet is a glorified single stream. FFS who uses json as a database storage mechanism on disk when wallets get above 10-20MB	[13:00]
ThickAsThieves	http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/27/5150734/nsa-spied-on-online-sexual-activity-of-6-muslim-radicalizers	[13:01]
ozbot	NSA spied on porn habits of Muslim 'radicalizers' in effort to discredit them \| The Verge	[13:01]
ThickAsThieves	' "DROPPING THE TRUTH" ON SUSPECTS IS MORE HUMANE THAN DROPPING A BOMB '	[13:01]
ThickAsThieves	sorry caps is from quote	[13:02]
markedathome	about as good as david cameron's "well you will have an embarassing conversation with your wife"	[13:02]
ThickAsThieves	a threat worth treason	[13:04]
pankkake	no details about what the porn was? :(	[13:04]
pankkake	btw: http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/7342808/me-and-maos-girl/	[13:04]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 16434 @ 0.00008846 = 1.4538 BTC [+] {2}	[13:05]
mircea_popescu	soo, anyone here doing a lot of ltc stuff ?	[13:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00203499 = 0.2035 BTC [-]	[13:06]
ThickAsThieves	talk to Kate	[13:07]
ThickAsThieves	:)	[13:07]
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markedathome	mircea_popescu: I have my raspberry pi mining and earning 0.00027ltc a day, it was 0.0002ltc, but I recompiled to a poolers 2.3x source	[13:08]
mircea_popescu	the "here" came before the "ltc" in the sentence because i order by importance.	[13:08]
mircea_popescu	markedathome ideally someone with 5-6 digits of the stuff.	[13:08]
markedathome	isn't chaang-noi something to do with litecoin?	[13:09]
pankkake	well there's goat	[13:09]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[13:09]
ThickAsThieves	i guess that is a funnier suggestion	[13:09]
ThickAsThieves	you win	[13:09]
kakobrekla	why the ltc mircea_popescu	[13:13]
ThickAsThieves	well goat and mp dont exactly get along if i recall	[13:17]
mircea_popescu	not a matter of "not getting along"	[13:18]
mircea_popescu	i don't empower scammers.	[13:18]
mircea_popescu	even if they are mentally ill and thus funny.	[13:18]
ThickAsThieves	life is a scam	[13:20]
ThickAsThieves	lived by pots and kettles	[13:21]
mircea_popescu	not so.	[13:21]
mircea_popescu	for instance, there are the people who are clean.	[13:22]
mircea_popescu	for another instance, there are the people who aren't clean, and would like to represent everything as "shades of grey"	[13:22]
mircea_popescu	because they feel that their mistakes which rendered them gray are unfair and "nobody could have foreseen"	[13:22]
mircea_popescu	while this interest is understandable, it also is exactly how they ceased being white.	[13:22]
mircea_popescu	and in some approximations, became black.	[13:23]
ThickAsThieves	for instance, there are the people who are clean. --- so we're not all sinners in the eyes of the lord?	[13:23]
kakobrekla	but the lord only sees what you type in irc!	[13:24]
ThickAsThieves	and what porn you like	[13:24]
kakobrekla	is why i dont have webcams	[13:25]
ThickAsThieves	maybe a good slogan for S.NSA?	[13:27]
ThickAsThieves	"We like to watch."	[13:27]
kakobrekla	maybe, i also like "fuck off nsa. ~ nsa"	[13:28]
markedathome	so having been away from sometime what happened in the saga of pirate pass throughs with patrick/kluge etc?	[13:28]
kakobrekla	markedathome pirate paid yesterday	[13:28]
markedathome	what?	[13:28]
kakobrekla	there is such pool already	[13:29]
markedathome	everyone with lg smart tvs?	[13:29]
kakobrekla	its called planet Earth	[13:29]
ThickAsThieves	chat roulette?	[13:29]
kakobrekla	and welcome back markedathome, i remember you from somewhere	[13:30]
kakobrekla	some irc room prolly	[13:30]
markedathome	yeah, was around early this year jan-apr	[13:31]
kakobrekla	hm	[13:31]
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markedathome	in this very bat-channel	[13:31]
ThickAsThieves	in this world of pots and kettles, most are indeed filled with spam	[13:31]
kakobrekla	where you the guy who smickles or someone else asked to do something and then parted upon agreement just to never be seen again	[13:31]
markedathome	it was the guy with the spotifycoin site	[13:32]
markedathome	I had thought I'd told him I was having bitcoin-qt problems at the time, but can't find it in the logs.	[13:32]
mircea_popescu	markedathome nothing happened eh	[13:34]
markedathome	I also offered to return the btc when I got back on in september. it was mcorlett	[13:34]
markedathome	I can find logs of me having problems with bitcoin-qt in other channels, just not those directly related to telling him of the problem.	[13:35]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla iirc he's one of the guys working on that early ripple thing, with fellowtravellert and dace	[13:35]
markedathome	and I am having complete brainfade - it was last year (mar-apr 2012)	[13:37]
mircea_popescu	Apr 21 23:00:13 markedathome: What's with the nicknames?	[13:37]
mircea_popescu	Apr 21 23:01:23 for some reason i got blasted off, and i don't have a secondary nick (which i'll correct soon enough)	[13:37]
mircea_popescu	this is 2012, ftr.	[13:37]
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kakobrekla	cause im not a camwhore like you!	[13:44]
kakobrekla	who am i watching then!?	[13:45]
kakobrekla	goats	[13:45]
markedathome	mircea_popescu: ripple thing? are you talking about me?	[13:46]
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mircea_popescu	markedathome yes. what was it called now	[13:48]
markedathome	well fellowtraveller was open-transaction? the distributed exchange system. I didn't have anything to do with it	[13:49]
mircea_popescu	Open-Transactions	[13:49]
mircea_popescu	o you didn't ?	[13:49]
markedathome	nope - the only other thing i can think of was jurov's site	[13:50]
markedathome	but that was only as a user, not a developer	[13:50]
mircea_popescu	aite, i can't find a reference. i guess you probably answered q's about it at some point or w/e and ended up associated in my mind.	[13:54]
markedathome	also did some ui suggestions/testing on glbse 2 when it was in beta before going live.	[13:54]
markedathome	possibly - at the time there was the big thing with different exchanges, glbse was still in that crap blue interface before it was RoR'd and bootstrapped.	[13:55]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 4 @ 0.03305 = 0.1322 BTC [+]	[13:59]
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gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 961.34, Best ask: 962.0, Bid-ask spread: 0.66000, Last trade: 961.34, 24 hour volume: 29757.25793072, 24 hour low: 860.001, 24 hour high: 983.99, 24 hour vwap: 931.12442	[14:08]
Venat	For I have returned	[14:08]
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Venat	food :(	[14:14]
Venat	didn't withdraw yet	[14:15]
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Venat	Next casino is like 30 minutes away	[14:19]
Venat	besides, I was in there once with family, doing slotmachines	[14:19]
Venat	didn't catch fire :)	[14:20]
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Venat	kakobrekla typo on your site http://bit4x.com/news.html April 4th Pro minimum and not mininum. you are welcome	[14:29]
mircea_popescu	mininum hahaha	[14:29]
kakobrekla	MINI NUMBER	[14:29]
kakobrekla	doh!	[14:30]
mircea_popescu	that's a very low ammount of pro.	[14:30]
kakobrekla	lmao	[14:30]
mircea_popescu	course mini mum would mean a british ex-pregnant short woman.	[14:30]
Venat	oh wait you are right	[14:30]
Venat	mininum is correct as its miniature number	[14:30]
Venat	i'm such a moron	[14:31]
mircea_popescu	miniron.	[14:31]
mircea_popescu	!b 7	[14:31]
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mircea_popescu	meh	[14:31]
mircea_popescu	!b 13	[14:31]
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kakobrekla	Venat fixd.	[14:31]
mircea_popescu	BingoBoingo "A large miner named ArtForz" actually artforz may be the largest miner.	[14:33]
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Venat	kakobrekla, I am most grateful	[14:37]
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kakobrekla	im most thankful you are most grateful!	[14:38]
kakobrekla	its too bad irc lines dont compile	[14:39]
kakobrekla	would catch lots of typos	[14:39]
pankkake	some clients have a spell checker	[14:39]
pankkake	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297503.msg3730493#msg3730493 made me irlol	[14:44]
ozbot	[ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated]	[14:44]
mircea_popescu	lol that zombie still crawls around on the forum ?	[14:44]
mircea_popescu	The speed of the mining difficulty increases seem to slow down a little.	[14:45]
mircea_popescu	I take it that is good news for us (and all other mining companies out there).	[14:45]
mircea_popescu	totally.	[14:45]
kakobrekla	well getting raped less is good news if you are getting raped more	[14:45]
pankkake	;;bc,stats	[14:45]
gribble	Current Blocks: 271767 \| Current Difficulty: 6.094826798883545E8 \| Next Difficulty At Block: 272159 \| Next Difficulty In: 392 blocks \| Next Difficulty In About: 2 days, 10 hours, 4 minutes, and 26 seconds \| Next Difficulty Estimate: 693612388.6 \| Estimated Percent Change: 13.80346	[14:46]
mircea_popescu	and thinking maybe you;ll get raped less is even better news	[14:46]
kakobrekla	keeping the spirit up is half of survival	[14:46]
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Venat	;;ticker	[14:55]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 963.0, Best ask: 967.0, Bid-ask spread: 4.00000, Last trade: 967.0, 24 hour volume: 28688.05883397, 24 hour low: 860.001, 24 hour high: 983.99, 24 hour vwap: 933.8987	[14:55]
mircea_popescu	dun dun dun 4 digits here we come	[14:56]
markedathome	btc-e currently has a 650-1000 btc/eur spread	[14:59]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 350 @ 0.00187001 = 0.6545 BTC [-] {3}	[15:14]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 300 @ 0.00187001 = 0.561 BTC [-] {3}	[15:15]
mircea_popescu	!t havelock neobee	[15:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK:NEOBEE] 1D: 0.00180252 / 0.00199489 / 0.00214999 (2585 shares, 5.15680254 BTC), 7D: 0.00170000 / 0.00202701 / 0.00246000 (59292 shares, 120.18530637 BTC), 30D: 0.00157500 / 0.0020936 / 0.00278770 (236297 shares, 494.71125106 BTC)	[15:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 172 @ 0.00187001 = 0.3216 BTC [-] {2}	[15:16]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 448 @ 0.00203498 = 0.9117 BTC [+] {3}	[15:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 43 @ 0.00368898 = 0.1586 BTC [+]	[15:28]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 57 @ 0.0036499 = 0.208 BTC [-]	[15:31]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu do you have any articles on "hoodrat shit" ?	[15:31]
mircea_popescu	whassat ?	[15:32]
thestringpuller	;;ud hoodrat shit	[15:32]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Hoodrat%20Shit \| The act of engaging in undesirable or unlawful activities such as stealing, smoking marijuana, and drinking forties on the street.	[15:32]
ozbot	Urban Dictionary: Hoodrat Shit	[15:32]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.40045 = 0.8009 BTC [+] {2}	[15:33]
Venat	interesting..	[15:33]
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thestringpuller	;;gettrust evoorhees	[15:42]
gribble	WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user evoorhees: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=evoorhees \| WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=evoorhees \| Rated since: Sat Aug 18 16:48:02 2012	[15:42]
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thestringpuller	ooh ooh wee need a new bitbet!!!	[15:46]
thestringpuller	http://i.imgur.com/Sd1dxeM.jpg - a bet perhaps stating "BFL Delivers Christmas orders by Christmas 2013?"	[15:47]
kakobrekla	right, ship me one to somalia before chistmas	[15:48]
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ThickAsThieves	;;genrate 5000	[15:48]
gribble	The expected generation output, at 5000.0 Mhps, given difficulty of 609482679.888, is 0.00412568341173 BTC per day and 0.000171903475489 BTC per hour.	[15:48]
kakobrekla	anyway, gotta jet. bbl	[15:49]
ThickAsThieves	so basically you get the miners just in time to still lose money buying from BFL	[15:49]
ThickAsThieves	god forbid they ship them the day or so you order them	[15:50]
ThickAsThieves	LTC almost $23	[15:51]
ThickAsThieves	maybe we need a $50 before 2014 bet	[15:51]
arij	ltc, crazy	[15:51]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[15:55]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 981.40001, Best ask: 984.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.59999, Last trade: 981.4, 24 hour volume: 29119.81285417, 24 hour low: 860.001, 24 hour high: 984.0, 24 hour vwap: 937.34072	[15:55]
thestringpuller	hmm	[15:55]
thestringpuller	should I get in on this bitbet before it is too late?	[15:55]
thestringpuller	lol	[15:55]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 0.20000001 BTC [-]	[15:59]
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nubbins`	hm, captain sally is FREAKING out today	[16:08]
bitesak	;;asks 1000	[16:09]
gribble	There are currently 1698.6083 bitcoins offered at or under 1000.0 USD, worth 1691554.15863 USD in total. \| Data vintage: 161.5444 seconds	[16:09]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[16:11]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 986.01, Best ask: 989.99999, Bid-ask spread: 3.98999, Last trade: 989.99, 24 hour volume: 29540.98124236, 24 hour low: 860.001, 24 hour high: 990.0, 24 hour vwap: 938.5936	[16:11]
ThickAsThieves	ltc is so funny, now it outperforms btc	[16:11]
ThickAsThieves	.0275 btc per ltc	[16:11]
mircea_popescu	sorry people, the future ltc over 50 bet is closed early	[16:12]
mircea_popescu	hand over the btc you thought you were going to send.	[16:13]
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nubbins`	hm, heavycoin	[16:20]
jurov`	lol.. i logged to btc-e after few months and found an order to sell 500 ltc for 0.98 btc each	[16:21]
nubbins`	every block contains like 1MB of noise from /dev/random	[16:21]
nubbins`	now there's an idea	[16:21]
jurov`	that bet isn't going to close early	[16:21]
thestringpuller	:D	[16:21]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` what's that help ?	[16:21]
mircea_popescu	Racial tensions are inflamed at the University of California at Los Angeles following several incidents — most notably, one where a professor corrected the grammar, punctuation and capitalization in minority students’ assignments.	[16:22]
mircea_popescu	The act of correcting a black student was “micro-aggression,” according to the members of the student group “Call 2 Action: Graduate Students of Color,” which launched a sit-in	[16:22]
mircea_popescu	i didn't even know there's a university in burbank.	[16:22]
nubbins`	oh, it doesn't help anything	[16:22]
nubbins`	very cumbersome	[16:22]
nubbins`	hm, micro-aggression?	[16:23]
nubbins`	GRAD STUDENTS said this?	[16:23]
mircea_popescu	well, not really students. us people.	[16:24]
mircea_popescu	whatever they are.	[16:24]
ThickAsThieves	is micro-aggression what happens when passive-aggression sharts?	[16:24]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.37020006 BTC [-]	[16:24]
nubbins`	sharting sucks, shissing is worse	[16:25]
mircea_popescu	i suppose micro aggression is what happens when some nigger is really pissed off and can't find a better pretext to lash out/	[16:25]
ThickAsThieves	i assume "nigger" applies to any color in this example	[16:25]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.37020005 = 0.7404 BTC [-] {2}	[16:25]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[16:26]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nigger \| 1. nigger. A fully grown niglet. Theres one of them niggers. mark as favorite buy nigger ... 2. nigger. A word that everyone else is afraid to define except in utter ...	[16:26]
ozbot	Urban Dictionary: nigger	[16:26]
ThickAsThieves	it's an interesting concept, I always felt that black people trying to take ownership of the word wasnt the right reaction	[16:26]
ThickAsThieves	a better one might be to apply the term to a broader meaning	[16:26]
mircea_popescu	yup.	[16:26]
ThickAsThieves	black do this somewhat	[16:27]
ThickAsThieves	blacks*	[16:27]
ThickAsThieves	but only within their own	[16:27]
mircea_popescu	a nigger is anyone that behaves like what the implication of the word suggests.	[16:27]
mircea_popescu	be they white or not, as long as they're illiterate, aggressive, noisy etc, that's that.	[16:27]
nubbins`	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newfie	[16:27]
ozbot	Newfie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia	[16:27]
ThickAsThieves	the problem with trying to own "nigger" in the classic sense it creates a paradigm, in which all black people are still pretty much tied to it	[16:28]
mircea_popescu	i don't see it.	[16:28]
nubbins`	i'm still shaking my head at the fact that someone who thinks correcting spelling mistakes is racist was able to make it to grad school	[16:28]
ThickAsThieves	i may not be explainign properly	[16:28]
ThickAsThieves	what i mean is	[16:28]
ThickAsThieves	black people call each other nigger in an effort to take it back	[16:29]
ThickAsThieves	erase the slave meaning or diminish it	[16:29]
ThickAsThieves	but it cant work	[16:29]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` you have to let people in according to color rather than merit, so people like obama can go to college and be president	[16:29]
bloctoc	PLEASE STOP THIS DISCUSSION!!!	[16:29]
mircea_popescu	it's right there in the conditions of federal funding	[16:29]
deadweasel	mircea_popescu: that definition makes most of america niggers	[16:30]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves well, "take it back". it'll never be a word to denote cupcakes for instance	[16:30]
ThickAsThieves	right	[16:30]
ThickAsThieves	itll just be	[16:30]
mircea_popescu	deadweasel i guess that makes me a progressive ?	[16:30]
thestringpuller	;;ud nigga moment	[16:30]
gribble	http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=nigga%20moment \| A moment where ignorance overwhelms the logic of an otherwise rational negro man.	[16:30]
ozbot	Urban Dictionary: nigga moment	[16:30]
ThickAsThieves	the slave word slaves adopted	[16:30]
deadweasel	i'll say, mircea_popescu	[16:30]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves i dunno that it has much to do with slavery really.	[16:30]
mircea_popescu	as far as i can tell slavery is a positive word today.	[16:31]
ThickAsThieves	to them it does	[16:31]
mircea_popescu	nigger is markedly not.	[16:31]
nubbins`	ThickAsThieves: i know plenty of people who refer to themselves as "queer" with no hint of irony	[16:31]
ThickAsThieves	its kinda mashed into one thing by now	[16:31]
mircea_popescu	imo that's all a confusion. they weren;t called niggers because they were slaves, they were called niggers because they were perceived stunted	[16:31]
ThickAsThieves	slavery/racism/oppression	[16:31]
mircea_popescu	may be.	[16:31]
ThickAsThieves	owning the term also keeps it alive	[16:32]
mircea_popescu	what i see in it (from the outside mind you) is an exact equivalent of the "lame"	[16:32]
mircea_popescu	lame does not mean gravity is opressing the person	[16:32]
mircea_popescu	it means the person sucks intrinsically.	[16:32]
ThickAsThieves	well i see it as	[16:32]
deadweasel	yes, i call those shit-heels.	[16:32]
ThickAsThieves	nigger was a word to equate their value with that of livestock	[16:33]
ThickAsThieves	subhuman or such	[16:33]
mircea_popescu	yeah.	[16:33]
mircea_popescu	just like "stupid" in function	[16:33]
deadweasel	;;ticker	[16:33]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 993.00001, Best ask: 994.999, Bid-ask spread: 1.99899, Last trade: 994.999, 24 hour volume: 29031.43156332, 24 hour low: 860.001, 24 hour high: 995.0, 24 hour vwap: 941.26169	[16:33]
ThickAsThieves	so close!	[16:33]
mircea_popescu	dun dun dun	[16:33]
mircea_popescu	we shall have more figures for our bitcoiny needs	[16:34]
ThickAsThieves	these milestones leave no time for parties!	[16:34]
ThickAsThieves	educate, nah?	[16:34]
ThickAsThieves	we are sharing	[16:34]
ThickAsThieves	maybe you have some things to work out	[16:34]
nubbins`	not maybe	[16:35]
ThickAsThieves	well youre the one thats uncomfortable, no?	[16:35]
deadweasel	no, that's bloctoc	[16:35]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[16:35]
ThickAsThieves	it's off-topic, i'll give you that	[16:36]
ThickAsThieves	but it's not like we interrupted anyone	[16:36]
ThickAsThieves	i dont think either POV conflicts	[16:36]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` iirc queer means "funny", as in, different. at least at the root.	[16:36]
deadweasel	it's true meaning.	[16:36]
deadweasel	its*	[16:36]
ThickAsThieves	an interesting phenomenon,	[16:37]
deadweasel	these words have meanings only in your minds, and they will all differ slightly.	[16:37]
ThickAsThieves	there is a pressure for black rappers to use the word nigger in their lyrics	[16:37]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu: well, if we're talking roots, examine the latin "niger"	[16:37]
ThickAsThieves	one they put on themselves	[16:37]
deadweasel	ThickAsThieves: pressure?	[16:37]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` maybe too distant a root. and it's not latin per se anyway, iirc it came from spanish/creole.	[16:38]
ThickAsThieves	when black rappers dont say it, they are not taken as seriously	[16:38]
deadweasel	they were already enslaved and now they are pressuring ecah other?	[16:38]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu: spanish negro from latin niger	[16:38]
ThickAsThieves	deadweasel, all the time	[16:38]
deadweasel	best black artists don't use the word nigger in their rap	[16:38]
ThickAsThieves	best?>	[16:38]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves here's the thing : rappers sell puff. in matters of puff, god forbid your puff is perceivced as less "quality" than the other's puff.	[16:38]
deadweasel	quality, not mainstream.	[16:38]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu: what's the color black called in romanian?	[16:38]
mircea_popescu	and so they have to fake quality. gotta use the TOP words then,	[16:38]
ThickAsThieves	thats subjective	[16:38]
mircea_popescu	or else someone else does and they're above you.	[16:38]
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mircea_popescu	nubbins` negru	[16:38]
ThickAsThieves	well its deeper than that imo	[16:38]
ThickAsThieves	i agree thats a piece of it	[16:39]
mircea_popescu	o look it's a Bugpowder	[16:39]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves what more ?	[16:39]
nubbins`	most romance languages have similar	[16:39]
ThickAsThieves	but it's also rooted in that white people wanna hear it	[16:39]
Bugpowder	Always show up for a milestonel..	[16:39]
mircea_popescu	hm.	[16:39]
ThickAsThieves	its part of the fantasy appeal	[16:39]
deadweasel	we do?	[16:39]
ThickAsThieves	listening to black gangsters	[16:39]
mircea_popescu	i dunno that i ever wanted to hear a word in preference of another	[16:39]
mircea_popescu	maybe it's just me	[16:39]
mircea_popescu	i don't recall anyone discovering that saying "cunt" sells porn better than any other word, so it never became a big thing.	[16:40]
deadweasel	i don't think so, mp.	[16:40]
mircea_popescu	if anything, this is the basis i'd argue against your theory ThickAsThieves	[16:40]
deadweasel	re: maybe its just me	[16:40]
nubbins`	i think "pussy" sells porn better	[16:40]
mircea_popescu	if such preference existed we'd see it in porn.	[16:40]
nubbins`	cunt is too plosive	[16:40]
deadweasel	Cunt Rockets 4: The TakeOff	[16:40]
deadweasel	Cunt Rockets 5: The Landing	[16:40]
ThickAsThieves	this is popular thing, not one every individual will feel	[16:40]
nubbins`	right? versus Pussy Rockets	[16:41]
nubbins`	obv winner	[16:41]
deadweasel	Pussy rockets ftw	[16:41]
mircea_popescu	cunt riot sounds better than pussy riot tho.	[16:41]
ThickAsThieves	popular rap is popular with white people	[16:41]
ThickAsThieves	not black	[16:41]
deadweasel	more punk fo sho	[16:41]
nubbins`	pussy riot sounds funnier.	[16:41]
nubbins`	cunt riot, more "shocking"	[16:41]
deadweasel	ThickAsThieves: is possible.	[16:41]
nubbins`	altho neither will save you from the gulag	[16:41]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves well seeing how the demographics are like, anything popular will be popular with white people. blacks are what, 12% if that.	[16:41]
mircea_popescu	even jazz existed once whities started having ella over.	[16:42]
nubbins`	lelelelel	[16:42]
*	nubbins` waits for truffles to advance the opinion that black people listen to rap and nothing else	[16:42]
nubbins`	uh huh	[16:43]
ThickAsThieves	well blacks that listen to rap listen to all kinds	[16:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 462 @ 0.00350654 = 1.62 BTC [-] {7}	[16:43]
ThickAsThieves	but it def is influenced by local culture	[16:43]
ThickAsThieves	there is geographic loyalty	[16:43]
deadweasel	do we have problem we are trying to solve with these over generalizations?	[16:43]
ThickAsThieves	its just a conversation	[16:43]
mircea_popescu	deadweasel yes. we're trying to see if we manage to erupt in full assets riot or not.	[16:43]
ThickAsThieves	not sure theres a point anymore	[16:43]
nubbins`	Assets Riot	[16:43]
deadweasel	just curious what the purpose is, or If I should go make coffee and bacon.	[16:43]
nubbins`	now there's a band	[16:43]
deadweasel	coffee and bacon it is.	[16:43]
mircea_popescu	i wonder if he steams the bacon	[16:44]
ThickAsThieves	Amazing Company Records	[16:44]
nubbins`	coffee puts hairs on your chest	[16:44]
deadweasel	i do at work, not on weekend, i get jacked on dark roast	[16:44]
nubbins`	tat, lel	[16:44]
nubbins`	AMAZING COMPANY! Records	[16:44]
mircea_popescu	should totally sign Assets Riot	[16:44]
mircea_popescu	then we could have a bacon signing.	[16:44]
nubbins`	deadweasel: you wanna get jacked, switch to light roast	[16:44]
*	mircea_popescu ponders if it is now time to stir this conversation towards coffee enemas	[16:45]
nubbins`	there was a "performance artist" did a thing here some years ago	[16:45]
mircea_popescu	(i said stir. bonus points to me)	[16:45]
ThickAsThieves	i hear they can be addictive	[16:45]
nubbins`	gave himself an enema of a full bottle of red wine	[16:45]
nubbins`	attempted to shiss it into a bucket	[16:45]
nubbins`	couldn't get any of it out	[16:45]
mircea_popescu	meh you should use white.	[16:45]
nubbins`	30 minutes later, falling around the bar, unable to stand up	[16:46]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[16:46]
mircea_popescu	reds usually have a lot of tanic acid. which is how you tan hides. who wants a tanned gut.	[16:46]
nubbins`	that guy, i guess	[16:46]
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nubbins`	peaberry coffees have lots of tannins too	[16:46]
nubbins`	really dries out your mouth	[16:46]
mircea_popescu	that can actually cause bleeding.	[16:47]
nubbins`	nod	[16:47]
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nubbins`	oh, i learned that the reason pineapple makes my mouth bleed is because the core is full of meat tenderizer	[16:47]
nubbins`	and it pulverizes my flesh D:	[16:47]
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nubbins`	nono, not the edges	[16:48]
nubbins`	the core	[16:48]
Bugpowder	enzymatic	[16:48]
ThickAsThieves	so MPOE-PR is officially anti-Neo now?	[16:48]
Bugpowder	also papaya. (papain)	[16:48]
nubbins`	have never tried papays	[16:48]
deadweasel	omg I hope this is not about papaya enemas	[16:48]
nubbins`	truffles: real men drink coffee	[16:48]
nubbins`	tea is for the weak and the infirm	[16:49]
jurov`	what an assriot	[16:49]
deadweasel	so I'm only weak and infirm on weekedays?	[16:49]
nubbins`	truffles: you probably buy pineapple chunks or something	[16:49]
deadweasel	truffles it's because you're so full of meat	[16:49]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[16:49]
nubbins`	i quarter the things and rip the core out with my teeth	[16:49]
ThickAsThieves	!!!	[16:49]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 995.0, Best ask: 996.8, Bid-ask spread: 1.80000, Last trade: 996.99999, 24 hour volume: 29230.90252009, 24 hour low: 860.001, 24 hour high: 998.33, 24 hour vwap: 943.68055	[16:49]
deadweasel	fuckin' a	[16:49]
ThickAsThieves	$1000	[16:49]
nubbins`	oh my	[16:50]
nubbins`	OK	[16:50]
Bugpowder	http://i.imgur.com/DYfpqvh.gif	[16:50]
nubbins`	so all this bitcoin all time high talk	[16:50]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[16:50]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 995.0, Best ask: 996.8, Bid-ask spread: 1.80000, Last trade: 996.99999, 24 hour volume: 30286.01335841, 24 hour low: 860.001, 24 hour high: 1000.0, 24 hour vwap: 945.63343	[16:50]
nubbins`	combined with richard branson's latest thing	[16:50]
ThickAsThieves	there it is	[16:50]
mircea_popescu	omfg the speed	[16:50]
Bugpowder	wake up bitcoinity	[16:50]
deadweasel	right bug?!?1	[16:50]
nubbins`	made me have a dream about space last night	[16:50]
deadweasel	love that gif	[16:50]
nubbins`	me and pascale went up in a rocket	[16:50]
jurov`	;;doxlag	[16:50]
gribble	Error: "doxlag" is not a valid command.	[16:50]
ThickAsThieves	lol rally now	[16:50]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves well, they fucked up. need a little signalling to comprehend they fucked up.	[16:50]
jurov`	;;goxlag	[16:50]
ThickAsThieves	1012	[16:50]
gribble	MtGox lag is 92.228569 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.184825019633 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin ten times between Jupiter and Callisto (0.12567 AU).	[16:50]
nubbins`	and -- no joke -- did a freefall back to earth	[16:50]
nubbins`	parachuting into my backyard at the end of it	[16:50]
nubbins`	not sure how we survived reentry, but it was pretty scary	[16:51]
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jurov`	999	[16:51]
ThickAsThieves	whoa	[16:51]
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ThickAsThieves	gox lagging on BUYS thats unusual	[16:51]
mircea_popescu	and we got 1k	[16:51]
ThickAsThieves	1020	[16:51]
*	nubbins` quickly sends unwanted funds to bitbet	[16:51]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[16:52]
mircea_popescu	we ty.	[16:52]
jackmaninov	think it's just bitcoinity lagging	[16:52]
jurov`	yeeeees	[16:52]
jackmaninov	bitcoinwisdom is doing fine	[16:52]
nubbins`	don't thank me yet, wait til i create a forum thread where i fuss about my spelling being corrected	[16:52]
jurov`	no gif ?!	[16:52]
nubbins`	i mean about my money being stolen	[16:52]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[16:52]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 1020.00001, Best ask: 1020.58739, Bid-ask spread: 0.58738, Last trade: 1020.58739, 24 hour volume: 31032.61127457, 24 hour low: 865.2222, 24 hour high: 1026.15138, 24 hour vwap: 948.33012	[16:52]
thestringpuller	NOOOO	[16:52]
thestringpuller	bet closed	[16:52]
thestringpuller	RESOLVE THAT SHIT kakobrekla	[16:53]
nubbins`	AH HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA	[16:53]
nubbins`	FUCK THIS.	[16:53]
nubbins`	dumping coffee down sink	[16:53]
nubbins`	i'm cracking a beer	[16:53]
thestringpuller	^- seconded	[16:53]
mircea_popescu	dump coffee down beer, crack the sink	[16:53]
thestringpuller	time to light up some bowls	[16:53]
thestringpuller	drink some beer	[16:53]
thestringpuller	i'm done	[16:53]
nubbins`	hm, should have had a jazz cigarette ready to go	[16:53]
thestringpuller	http://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Seinfeld-Leaving.gif	[16:54]
nubbins`	didn't think it'd happen so soon	[16:54]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` well it did have a few days to breathe.	[16:54]
jackmaninov	TO THE MOON http://i.imgur.com/5Zo5uzt.gif	[16:54]
nubbins`	nod, the fault is mine	[16:54]
thestringpuller	man would have been an easy 0.1	[16:55]
nubbins`	having a hard time getting upset about it tho ;D	[16:55]
mircea_popescu	as they say, more people want to buy 4 digit btc than they wanted to buy 3 digit btc.	[16:55]
thestringpuller	this is MPOE statement week no mircea_popescu ?	[16:55]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller yeah, this fri	[16:55]
thestringpuller	that's because now the millionaires want to buy btc	[16:55]
mircea_popescu	better social proof, however you wish to slice it.	[16:55]
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nubbins`	i guess this bodes well for my hoard of casascius coins	[16:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 30 @ 0.0035 = 0.105 BTC [-] {2}	[16:56]
thestringpuller	lol	[16:56]
thestringpuller	my biggest fear is the day I go to crack open my casascius coin the private key is unreadable	[16:56]
thestringpuller	OR	[16:56]
thestringpuller	it has a typo	[16:56]
mircea_popescu	you know, i clearly recall mpoe-pr offering free bitcoins on some stripper forum some time back	[16:56]
nubbins`	hahaha	[16:57]
mircea_popescu	none of the hos took it.	[16:57]
mircea_popescu	it was epic.	[16:57]
deadweasel	they really do want 4 digit coins... holy shit	[16:57]
mircea_popescu	deadweasel it was like 50 at the time	[16:57]
mircea_popescu	o o. yeah, buys prolly gonna be raining in for a bit.	[16:57]
deadweasel	as china relaxes capital controls, you think many chinese will cash out for other ventures?	[16:58]
mircea_popescu	what other ventures ?	[16:59]
nubbins`	exporting cheap plastic items	[16:59]
deadweasel	^	[16:59]
mircea_popescu	i don't see it. who knows ?	[16:59]
jurov`	or buying litecoins	[16:59]
mircea_popescu	lol	[16:59]
deadweasel	http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/21/business/global/china-quietly-relaxes-controls-on-foreign-capital.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0	[17:00]
nubbins`	i'm telling you, heavycoins	[17:00]
mircea_popescu	deadweasel in fairness they've been doing it for a while.	[17:00]
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nubbins`	all the ballers will want them	[17:00]
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mircea_popescu	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348977.new#new << meanwhile at butthurt farm, mpoe-pr creating the butthurt so btc can go up up up	[17:01]
ozbot	This is the story of your loss.	[17:01]
deadweasel	public service, ty	[17:01]
nubbins`	leel	[17:02]
nubbins`	to be fair, average investors get average returns	[17:02]
nubbins`	plenty of people made fortunes on each of those exchanges	[17:02]
mircea_popescu	do the math, srsly.	[17:03]
jcpham	since we're feeling so successful this morning mircea_popescu	[17:03]
nubbins`	plenty of idiots got fleeced too, so y'know	[17:03]
jcpham	rota is up in 2 days	[17:03]
mircea_popescu	dun dun dun :D	[17:03]
mircea_popescu	is it exciting jcpham ?	[17:03]
jcpham	HEY GUYS IF YOU WANT TO SERVE AS ROTA FOR THE NEXT YEAR GO SIGN UP IN mircea_popescu's BLOG	[17:03]
mircea_popescu	I.6. All Judges sit for terms of one year. <<	[17:04]
mircea_popescu	why tomorrow ?!	[17:04]
jcpham	tomorrow the 29th is when i gpg signed a key	[17:04]
jcpham	after that there's like 2 weeks or something	[17:04]
jcpham	don't make me look up my notes	[17:04]
mircea_popescu	well that's fine, but you were accepted dec 15th.	[17:04]
nubbins`	hey, i'm good at judging things	[17:04]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2012/the-mpex-rota/ < tis thar.	[17:04]
ozbot	The MPEx Rota pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[17:04]
jcpham	thank you for the clarification dates	[17:04]
jcpham	i wasn't sure which one we were going by	[17:05]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` sadly your shot at judging things WAS RUINED by the earlier rota judges	[17:05]
nubbins`	oh?	[17:05]
jcpham	nubbins`	[17:05]
mircea_popescu	jcpham yeah, 1 year from your 15th of the quarter whenever it was	[17:05]
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mircea_popescu	which was dec.	[17:05]
jcpham	don't listen to him	[17:05]
jcpham	go sign up to be next year's judge	[17:05]
jcpham	,pex disputes	[17:05]
jcpham	*mpex	[17:05]
jcpham	mircea_popescu hates the idea	[17:05]
mircea_popescu	jcpham eh read teh thing dood, i have to sign off on the rolls anyway	[17:06]
jcpham	but has yet to disband it through some type of wording or contractual nullification	[17:06]
mircea_popescu	i just let it lay dormant	[17:06]
jurov`	it will be furloughed	[17:06]
nubbins`	well jeez guys	[17:06]
nubbins`	way to send me conflicting messages	[17:06]
jcpham	i'm not the one sending conflicting messages here	[17:06]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` http://trilema.com/category/rota/ < read those 4 articles or w/e	[17:06]
nubbins`	i don't know that my WoT rating is older than 6 months anyway	[17:06]
mircea_popescu	it documents a failed experiment in citizen justicing.	[17:07]
jcpham	>:)	[17:07]
deadweasel	;;ticker	[17:07]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 1007.0, Best ask: 1022.6152, Bid-ask spread: 15.61520, Last trade: 1007.0, 24 hour volume: 31555.16443743, 24 hour low: 868.9, 24 hour high: 1030.0, 24 hour vwap: 950.52497	[17:07]
mircea_popescu	one which cost me more than what your average new "exchange" is worth lock stock and barrel,	[17:07]
mircea_popescu	but whatever, for i r billionare mp.	[17:07]
jcpham	omg i'm going to cry	[17:07]
jcpham	saddest story ever	[17:08]
jcpham	i'm not sure how it failed so miserably so fast but i don't think this is true	[17:08]
mircea_popescu	jcpham just the fact that i'll have this to lord over the noobs in the coming decades makes it worthwhile.	[17:08]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu: hm, shame, sounded like fun	[17:08]
mircea_popescu	ikr?	[17:08]
mircea_popescu	shit that sounds fun sometimes turns out to not be.	[17:08]
nubbins`	been there more than once D:	[17:09]
jcpham	nubbins` i'd still be persistent if i were you in asking where to sign up	[17:09]
jcpham	actually maybe we can bring a case against mpex	[17:09]
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nubbins`	would you, though?	[17:09]
nubbins`	i mean, there's an article right there with "post mortem" in the title	[17:10]
jcpham	i'm not sure mircea_popescu has the authority he caims to have	[17:10]
jcpham	based on the initial "birth" of the idea	[17:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 3330 @ 0.00008 = 0.2664 BTC [-]	[17:10]
nubbins`	do elaborate	[17:10]
mircea_popescu	yeah	[17:10]
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mircea_popescu	doesn't look like it's ever going under 1k again.	[17:11]
mircea_popescu	anyone wanna bet on this ?	[17:11]
jcpham	II.2. The Rota supersedes the jurisdiction of any other court, institution, group, organisation, corporation, reigning monarch, city fool etc.	[17:11]
deadweasel	I think it would make a very profitable bet.	[17:11]
jcpham	it's a bold claim	[17:11]
ThickAsThieves	you are betting we never see 3 digits again?	[17:12]
jcpham	it might fall under 1000	[17:12]
ThickAsThieves	i give it 4 hours	[17:12]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[17:12]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 1016.0, Best ask: 1021.1542, Bid-ask spread: 5.15420, Last trade: 1021.1542, 24 hour volume: 31568.47965533, 24 hour low: 870.00001, 24 hour high: 1030.0, 24 hour vwap: 950.71338	[17:12]
assbot	123!	[17:12]
thestringpuller	lets make that bet then	[17:13]
deadweasel	from 30 to 1030 in ayear	[17:13]
deadweasel	?	[17:13]
jcpham	lolololol: http://www.businessinsider.com/silk-road-satoshi-paper-retraction-2013-11?op=1	[17:13]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu: after an admittedly cursory skim, it looks like you just picked bad judges	[17:13]
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jurov`	good judges like me decided to wait and see	[17:14]
deadweasel	turned to be an old OTC guy, no?	[17:14]
jcpham	nubbins` i concede this also may be true	[17:14]
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jcpham	people usually are the weak link in an idea	[17:14]
nubbins`	eh, ideas are easy, implementing them is the hard part	[17:15]
nubbins`	hence why ideas are generally worth $0	[17:15]
Bugpowder	STACK THE COURT.	[17:15]
Bugpowder	FDR would be proud	[17:15]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` i pickled what was available at the time/	[17:16]
mircea_popescu	granted, my mistake, should have waited more.	[17:16]
jcpham	that's ok i'm an easy target	[17:16]
Bugpowder	OH sweet! Retracted! I'm going to get retraction watch to do a story on it.	[17:16]
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mircea_popescu	lol.	[17:17]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu: some sort of sub-100 btc baby rota where judges don't get paid, or only get paid a pittance, for example	[17:17]
ThickAsThieves	MPOE-PR has at least one definite error in her new post	[17:17]
ThickAsThieves	XBOND was profitable	[17:17]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves so correct her.	[17:17]
nubbins`	you can't just throw civilians into a set of judge's robes and expect them to act accordingly :P	[17:17]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` isn't this the concept of "citizen x" ?	[17:17]
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nubbins`	maybe, not familiar	[17:18]
lewicki	MPOE he seems agitated and threatened that NEOBEE is getting into the game somehow	[17:18]
lewicki	stomping on the ground to kick up sand	[17:18]
mircea_popescu	lewicki you have any idea how often this was said historically ?	[17:18]
lewicki	no, I don;t	[17:19]
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mircea_popescu	well that'd be a problem, information asymmetry and all that.	[17:19]
lewicki	I don't follow.	[17:20]
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deadweasel	voorhees on litecoin, http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1rjv6l/my_response_to_a_litecoin_advocate/ preaching to the choir in this chan though.	[17:21]
topace	hey mircea_popescu, i requested a withdrawal from mpex yesterday, any chance you could push that through for me ?	[17:21]
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mircea_popescu	yup	[17:21]
topace	thanks :)	[17:22]
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thestringpuller	is it	[17:23]
thestringpuller	like still going up	[17:23]
thestringpuller	like a boner and viagra?	[17:23]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[17:23]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 1041.0, Best ask: 1044.0, Bid-ask spread: 3.00000, Last trade: 1044.0, 24 hour volume: 31737.89401815, 24 hour low: 870.56259, 24 hour high: 1044.0, 24 hour vwap: 951.8752	[17:23]
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thestringpuller	;;bc,24hprc	[17:23]
gribble	Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.	[17:23]
thestringpuller	fucking bitcoincharts	[17:23]
taub	choo choo	[17:23]
taub	yes, still going up right now mtgox alltime highs	[17:24]
taub	1040	[17:24]
Bugpowder	use this	[17:25]
Bugpowder	http://trading.i286.org	[17:25]
Bugpowder	or this	[17:25]
Bugpowder	http://bitcoinwisdom.com	[17:25]
Bugpowder	1044	[17:25]
nubbins`	http://imgur.com/EHTN7jc	[17:26]
ozbot	imgur: the simple image sharer	[17:26]
nubbins`	^ for great celebrate	[17:26]
mircea_popescu	deposits flushed.	[17:26]
topace	mircea_popescu: ty, got it	[17:26]
nubbins`	at least i had the foresight to pick one of these up	[17:26]
taub	nice sites Bugpowder	[17:28]
taub	if we hit 2k i'm going to wrestlemania 30	[17:28]
taub	fingers crossed	[17:28]
nubbins`	heh	[17:29]
nubbins`	P asks "have you coated those screens yet?"	[17:29]
nubbins`	"not yet, having a beer first"	[17:30]
nubbins`	P: "ah, you're too busy grabbing life by the balls and giving them a squeeze?"	[17:30]
mod6	;;ticker	[17:30]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 1036.0, Best ask: 1040.0, Bid-ask spread: 4.00000, Last trade: 1036.0, 24 hour volume: 31792.64996268, 24 hour low: 870.56259, 24 hour high: 1044.0, 24 hour vwap: 952.49385	[17:30]
deadweasel	nubbins`: you got a helluva a woman there.	[17:30]
Bugpowder	well being over 1000 was fun while it lasted.	[17:30]
mircea_popescu	yeah. how dares she.	[17:30]
nubbins`	srsly, my life, right?	[17:30]
deadweasel	smile :)	[17:30]
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deadweasel	i may have met my future woman last night. gonna go paint a farmhouse with her on friday.	[17:31]
nubbins`	at the rate things are going, i'm not gonna have a mortgage soon	[17:31]
mircea_popescu	paint a farmhouse ?	[17:32]
mircea_popescu	this is easily the most perverted chan on irc.	[17:32]
nubbins`	painting it red, natch	[17:32]
nubbins`	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214589.msg3737138#msg3737138	[17:32]
ozbot	[WTB/WTS] Casascius Holo Error / Collectible Marketplace	[17:32]
nubbins`	45 btc for a 10 btc casascius	[17:32]
deadweasel	^.^	[17:32]
nubbins`	:0	[17:32]
jcpham	wut	[17:33]
nubbins`	i know	[17:33]
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deadweasel	asking or transacted already?	[17:33]
nubbins`	asking	[17:33]
nubbins`	and i thought 25 was taking the piss	[17:33]
deadweasel	fuckin goat	[17:33]
mircea_popescu	pretty soon we;ll be entering "well preserved latin solidus" territory here.	[17:33]
deadweasel	yeah, hold those if you have'em	[17:33]
mircea_popescu	i bouight a trajan aureus once for about 11k	[17:34]
mircea_popescu	i think depending on the issue etc it may go as high as a mil or two	[17:34]
nubbins`	most costly non-casascius coin i ever purchased was just under 3k	[17:34]
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deadweasel	ooh, that perty. http://www.romanorum.com.au/Info/Articles/Forming%20a%20Collection/Forming%20a%20collection/Preston-Trajan%20aureus.jpg	[17:35]
nubbins`	hm, that is cool	[17:35]
jcpham	means i'm going to get my 10 graded	[17:35]
jcpham	if people are already asking retard prices	[17:35]
nubbins`	what's it cost to get coins graded, anyway?	[17:35]
jcpham	i looked up anac last night	[17:35]
jcpham	and it's like 3 coins for 125	[17:36]
jcpham	iirc	[17:36]
nubbins`	oh, i was expecting it to cost more	[17:36]
jcpham	no	[17:36]
jcpham	it's 10 coins for 125	[17:36]
jcpham	so less	[17:36]
nubbins`	!	[17:36]
nubbins`	wow	[17:36]
nubbins`	you'd be foolish not to	[17:36]
jcpham	http://www.anacs.com/	[17:36]
ozbot	ANACS - America's Oldest Coin Authentication and Grading Service	[17:36]
nubbins`	although i can't see myself sending like $60k worth of coins through the mail	[17:36]
jcpham	yeah that's my problem	[17:36]
jcpham	that's exactly my problem	[17:37]
nubbins`	although at the risk of being cheeky	[17:37]
nubbins`	if you've got $60k worth of coins, you can fucking well afford a plane ticket	[17:37]
jcpham	that's what i was thinking too	[17:37]
nubbins`	not sure how that'd play out with customs tho	[17:38]
nubbins`	"anything to declare?"	[17:38]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` suppose they peel off the sticker	[17:38]
jcpham	it's in CO and we love colorado	[17:38]
mircea_popescu	as far as they're concerned this is no big deal	[17:38]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu: would probably spend a few minutes explaining to them what they're dealing with	[17:38]
mircea_popescu	this makes no difference	[17:38]
jcpham	i've already seen the anac graded cas coins so i know they grade them	[17:38]
jcpham	obv they've handled them	[17:38]
mircea_popescu	this also doesn't resolve the problem.	[17:39]
mircea_popescu	suppose they send you the coin back w/o sticker. now what ?	[17:39]
jcpham	but chain of custody is really important	[17:39]
mircea_popescu	you complain on the forum ?	[17:39]
nubbins`	lel, no, you file a lawsuit	[17:39]
mircea_popescu	do you ?	[17:39]
nubbins`	of course you do	[17:39]
nubbins`	what else, you just sniff and shrug?	[17:39]
mircea_popescu	don't ofcourse me. do you, nubbins, actuallty file a lawsuit ?	[17:39]
jcpham	i would either have to do that or eat it	[17:39]
nubbins`	i, nubbins, do indeed actually file a lawsuit	[17:40]
jcpham	at this point lawsuit	[17:40]
ThickAsThieves	lol domain http://www.oldmacdonaldhadafarmeie.io/	[17:40]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` who's representing you ?	[17:40]
jcpham	i've eaten enough losses	[17:40]
nubbins`	a lawyer would be the obvious choice	[17:40]
mircea_popescu	how much does he cost ?	[17:40]
nubbins`	less than $60k	[17:40]
mircea_popescu	what if he loses ?	[17:40]
nubbins`	what if the sun eats the earth?	[17:40]
mircea_popescu	no.	[17:40]
mircea_popescu	sun never ate the earth. lawyers lost all the time	[17:41]
mircea_popescu	;;google newegg	[17:41]
gribble	Newegg.com - Computer Parts, Laptops, Electronics, and More!: ; Computer Parts, Computer Hardware - Newegg.com: ; Newegg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:	[17:41]
nubbins`	this isn't patent law	[17:41]
mircea_popescu	it's worse.	[17:41]
nubbins`	contract law!	[17:41]
jcpham	yeah lulz at newegg losing after diffie	[17:41]
mircea_popescu	so there you have it. either you put aside money for the lawuyer and for the appeal	[17:41]
mircea_popescu	or no ofcourse.	[17:42]
jcpham	they couldn't have put a more correct person on the stand to give an accurate portrayel of history and still lost due to patent bullshit	[17:42]
mircea_popescu	^	[17:42]
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mircea_popescu	they lost due to jury bullshit imo.	[17:42]
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jcpham	it's sad	[17:42]
jcpham	that's for sure	[17:43]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu: seems risky for ANACS to just start peeling holograms on the off-chance that i won't sue them	[17:43]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.37020005 BTC [-]	[17:43]
mircea_popescu	you can either have a jury or not. if you do, it'll be made of idiots. if you don't, the state will just rape you.	[17:43]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` they can'ty control their employee.	[17:43]
deadweasel	goog ol' state rape.	[17:43]
mircea_popescu	think in terms of how the processes are articled in fact,	[17:43]
mircea_popescu	not in terms of how you would like to represent them.	[17:43]
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ThickAsThieves	i dont even understand how you can confidently have juries for these things	[17:43]
mircea_popescu	if one guy that just got started woprking with anacs (or with the mail, or etc) figures he might as well, you're sol.	[17:44]
ThickAsThieves	ah i shoulda scrolled	[17:44]
nubbins`	hm	[17:44]
nubbins`	i'd think that ANACS would have some sort of policy surrounding what happens when an employee destroys a submitted coin	[17:45]
nubbins`	although just guessing here	[17:45]
mircea_popescu	except it's unlikely "destruction" is defined as "having peeled a sticker off"	[17:45]
nubbins`	i mean, this is their business	[17:45]
nubbins`	for these coins, destruction is precisely defined as such	[17:46]
mircea_popescu	by you.	[17:46]
nubbins`	nod	[17:46]
mircea_popescu	get casascius on the stand	[17:46]
ThickAsThieves	just put it in a sleeve that says "DO NOT PEEL STICKER OR YOU DIE."	[17:46]
mircea_popescu	(for a cost)	[17:46]
ThickAsThieves	duh	[17:46]
mircea_popescu	then lose.	[17:46]
jcpham	i'd agree peeling the sticker destroys the original value and ALL of the collectible value	[17:47]
jcpham	to me it renders it without value	[17:47]
nubbins`	why don't i just say "hey guys, why not sign this document stating that peeling the stickers off these constitutes destruction"	[17:47]
mircea_popescu	jcpham well yeah, but maybe you're insane. what's the court to know ?	[17:47]
nubbins`	this is not an insurmountable problem	[17:47]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` if you can get them to do that then sure, it's a constructive stgep forward.	[17:47]
jcpham	i may be able to provide documentation for the court suggesting that i am not insane though	[17:47]
mircea_popescu	the court will not consider it.	[17:48]
mircea_popescu	it isn't germane to the controversy.	[17:48]
nubbins`	jcpham: can't really prove a negative like that	[17:48]
jcpham	fuck the court get money, bitches.	[17:48]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 84 @ 0.00203497 = 0.1709 BTC [+] {2}	[17:48]
jcpham	whoops	[17:48]
ThickAsThieves	just sell the coin, this is too stressful	[17:48]
mircea_popescu	lol	[17:48]
deadweasel	^	[17:48]
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nubbins`	ThickAsThieves: well, who the fuck is gonna buy a coin for $10k?	[17:48]
deadweasel	assholes	[17:48]
nubbins`	the problem is finding buyers	[17:48]
nubbins`	regardless of the coin's worth	[17:49]
jcpham	cash buyers, yes	[17:49]
ThickAsThieves	sell it for what its worth and someone will buy	[17:49]
jcpham	bitcoin buyers....not as difficult	[17:49]
nubbins`	still pretty difficult	[17:49]
nubbins`	10 btc is much more precious than it once was, even to people who got in early	[17:49]
mircea_popescu	lol that's evil ThickAsThieves	[17:49]
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mircea_popescu	i wonder if this is factual, btc coins could indeed be worth less than the btc in them	[17:50]
jcpham	i think i could sell some of them back to the people i bought 'em from	[17:50]
jcpham	for more	[17:50]
mircea_popescu	logic seems to suggest this is true, or else bitcoin wouldn't be an improvement in the first place.	[17:50]
ThickAsThieves	well it's a collectible	[17:50]
ThickAsThieves	not a bitcoin	[17:50]
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mircea_popescu	i guess it's protected because you just peel the sticker yoursel;f	[17:50]
ThickAsThieves	it's like a collectible that also comes with free bitcoins	[17:51]
jcpham	i'd like to be in another land one day and finally peel the sticker	[17:51]
jcpham	something refreshing like that	[17:51]
nubbins`	i peeled one a few weeks ago	[17:51]
nubbins`	felt great	[17:51]
ThickAsThieves	give it your real estate agent as commission when you buy your summer home	[17:51]
nubbins`	^	[17:52]
deadweasel	http://firstblockchain.com/	[17:52]
ozbot	First Blockchain Incorporated \| The World's First Stateless Company Incorporated In And By The Bitco	[17:52]
nubbins`	can't buy a summer home	[17:52]
deadweasel	i think he's confused	[17:52]
nubbins`	owning 3 houses puts you squarely into "asshole" territory	[17:52]
jcpham	need to pay off mortgage on summer home	[17:52]
ThickAsThieves	i disagree nub	[17:52]
ThickAsThieves	3 houses in 3 countries, why not?	[17:53]
nubbins`	well, name a person who owns more than two homes who isn't an asshole	[17:53]
ThickAsThieves	landlords	[17:53]
jcpham	so it can't just be property it must be an actual dwelling x3	[17:53]
jcpham	i do not qualify for three dwellings	[17:53]
nubbins`	ThickAsThieves: most landlords are assholes	[17:53]
ThickAsThieves	in the way that most Dads are assholes	[17:54]
ThickAsThieves	i guess	[17:54]
nubbins`	heh	[17:54]
nubbins`	well, they are	[17:54]
nubbins`	regardless of whether it's their shithead kids (or tenants) who made them that way	[17:54]
jcpham	i sense ThickAsThieves is a landlord	[17:54]
jcpham	i am a landlord	[17:54]
nubbins`	i am also a landlord	[17:54]
jcpham	maybe i have not had bad tenants yet	[17:55]
nubbins`	and an asshole, but only when the situation calls for it	[17:55]
nubbins`	i've had brutal tenants	[17:55]
ThickAsThieves	i am indeed a landlord	[17:55]
nubbins`	current ones are great tho	[17:55]
nubbins`	hey, landlord club!	[17:55]
ThickAsThieves	and will probly add properties	[17:55]
jcpham	mine have been very much nor,al so far	[17:55]
jcpham	probably smugglers	[17:55]
nubbins`	i'll probably sell one next year when the current lease is up	[17:56]
nubbins`	property values have skyrocketed here	[17:56]
ThickAsThieves	but future properties will likely be pushed to mgmt company	[17:56]
ThickAsThieves	i also would not mind owning 3 homes personally	[17:56]
nubbins`	mgmt company is the way to go, depending on rates	[17:56]
nubbins`	lots of the ones here charge 1 month's rent per year in fees	[17:56]
ThickAsThieves	living 3-9mos per year in each or such	[17:56]
nubbins`	which is a bit rich, i think	[17:56]
mircea_popescu	someone should point out to that j b allen retard that bitcoin corps have existed for years now	[17:57]
deadweasel	I just sent a contact info invite to -assets	[17:57]
deadweasel	for fun	[17:58]
jcpham	i've done both the mgmt company and private	[17:58]
deadweasel	lol	[17:58]
jcpham	just been lucky so far both were good	[17:58]
nubbins`	ah, great	[17:58]
nubbins`	i had this one idiot mgmt person try to tell me that the house would never rent for more than $800/mo	[17:58]
mircea_popescu	deadweasel bet you he's too smart to figure out irc.	[17:58]
nubbins`	"but... that's less than the mortgage"	[17:58]
deadweasel	i put webchat link	[17:59]
mircea_popescu	o you're good at this.	[17:59]
jcpham	webchat bait links	[17:59]
jcpham	dirty tricks	[17:59]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves it's better if the women own the houses.	[17:59]
nubbins`	what sort of size homes do you guys rent out?	[17:59]
mircea_popescu	and you own the women	[17:59]
nubbins`	ours is a 5-bedroom, 1.5 bathroom	[17:59]
jcpham	mines 3/1 it's a tiny house	[18:00]
nubbins`	that's a nice size for a rental	[18:00]
nubbins`	5/1.5 is almost too big	[18:00]
jcpham	i like it for that purpose	[18:00]
jcpham	tornados in 2011 wiped out 40% of it	[18:00]
deadweasel	1891 built old wood monster. 2 bed 1ba	[18:00]
jcpham	so it's new too	[18:00]
nubbins`	ah	[18:00]
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nubbins`	yeah, ours is in a good location, but really old and starting to fall apart	[18:01]
jcpham	gotta keep the water out	[18:01]
nubbins`	nod	[18:01]
nubbins`	had a pipe burst a few months ago	[18:01]
ThickAsThieves	basically when i upgrade my home, i just rent out the old one, rather than sell it	[18:01]
nubbins`	shutoff valve wouldn't fully close, and the city couldn't find the curb stop	[18:01]
nubbins`	had to cut a flowing pipe and fit a valve onto it	[18:02]
nubbins`	wet times	[18:02]
nubbins`	but this house is OLD. all the wiring is external, even	[18:02]
ThickAsThieves	ah we 2 inches of water in half our house a few weeks ago	[18:02]
jcpham	i've seen shitty houses last and rent forever	[18:02]
ThickAsThieves	brand new hardwood floors	[18:02]
jcpham	just needs anew roof every 10 years or so	[18:03]
jcpham	as long as you keep the water out	[18:03]
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ThickAsThieves	luckily the installers did a good job, and we caught the leak early enough to have no notable damage	[18:03]
nubbins`	nice	[18:03]
nubbins`	i had a gallon a minute coming down through the ceiling	[18:03]
ThickAsThieves	ugh	[18:04]
nubbins`	yep	[18:04]
nubbins`	apparently there was a bad batch of copper put out about 20 years ago, and it's all starting to fail	[18:04]
ThickAsThieves	this made me wonder why bathrooms dont naturally have a shower drain in the middle of the room	[18:04]
nubbins`	in some countries, they do	[18:04]
nubbins`	korean bathrooms are like this	[18:04]
ThickAsThieves	it just makes sense	[18:05]
mircea_popescu	they do here.	[18:05]
nubbins`	http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_FTVdBruEU98/TFxFKAbHaTI/AAAAAAAAADs/hqWgRn8-Oi0/s1600/P1030654.JPG	[18:05]
nubbins`	note showerhead on wall	[18:05]
ThickAsThieves	one bad $10 toilet part and suddenly youre fukt	[18:05]
ThickAsThieves	nice	[18:06]
nubbins`	great, but you need sandals for the bathroom	[18:06]
nubbins`	otherwise your socks get wet every time you take a piss	[18:06]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2011/instalatorotenia/	[18:06]
ozbot	Instalatorotenia pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[18:06]
ThickAsThieves	yeah thats more extreme than i request	[18:06]
mircea_popescu	this is me bitching because the floor is not properly inclined	[18:06]
ThickAsThieves	shower can have a stall, it's ok	[18:06]
mircea_popescu	so water puddles rather than drains	[18:06]
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deadweasel	nice tile.	[18:06]
deadweasel	did you bend the floor in there?	[18:07]
nubbins`	ThickAsThieves: i was in ONE house in korea that had an actual tub	[18:07]
mircea_popescu	deadweasel no	[18:07]
deadweasel	oh, scrollback	[18:07]
nubbins`	and even this one didn't have a shower curtain	[18:07]
nubbins`	so the water still went everywhere	[18:07]
mircea_popescu	shower curtains are for pussies.	[18:08]
mircea_popescu	you wanna see what's going in there neh ?	[18:08]
nubbins`	or those who don't want wet floors	[18:08]
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nubbins`	https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=348977.msg3738141#msg3738141	[18:11]
ozbot	This is the story of your loss.	[18:11]
nubbins`	wonder what the average market value of s.dice was	[18:11]
mircea_popescu	i wonder if i published that.	[18:11]
mircea_popescu	http://trilema.com/2013/smpoe-market-cap-vs-sdice-market-cap/ well there's that. guess who's gladoscc.	[18:12]
ozbot	S.MPOE market cap vs S.DICE market cap pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.	[18:12]
ThickAsThieves	glados is TF	[18:13]
mircea_popescu	indeed.	[18:13]
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nubbins`	was he old enough to vote at that point, i wonder?	[18:14]
nubbins`	god damn, i love wheat beer.	[18:14]
ThickAsThieves	i apologize to MPOE-PR but I don't have the energy to piece-by-piece rebut. generally, i get her points but feel she's being too fast and loose in justifying them. No point restating that in new ways.	[18:14]
nubbins`	on a somewhat related note, anyone else think voorhees looks like Gob from Arrested Development?	[18:15]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves that works tbh.	[18:15]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.37020008 = 0.7404 BTC [+]	[18:17]
mircea_popescu	nubbins` 43`998`459 s.dice shares traded, for 167063.39157175 btc total.	[18:18]
mircea_popescu	comes to ~37	[18:18]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 15 @ 0.37014933 = 5.5522 BTC [-] {5}	[18:18]
nubbins`	forced buyback was what, 35?	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	yeah	[18:19]
mircea_popescu	well it was trading around 20 at the time, but it had peaked significantly earlier on. 60 or so	[18:20]
nubbins`	nod	[18:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 26 @ 0.03300006 = 0.858 BTC [-] {3}	[18:20]
mircea_popescu	2013-11-27 02:27:00 1.7e+308 1.7e+308 1.7e+308 1.7e+308 Infinity Infinity Infinity	[18:23]
mircea_popescu	bitcoincharts working well today	[18:23]
nubbins`	heh	[18:23]
nubbins`	ATH: infinity	[18:23]
mircea_popescu	http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/27/hard-drive-bitcoin-landfill-site	[18:23]
mircea_popescu	what the fuck was it doing there.	[18:24]
ThickAsThieves	hey anyone else have this kinda phenomenon where you dont talk about bitcoin socially because when you do it's like youre creating a little monster?	[18:24]
nubbins`	haha, what a fucking asshole	[18:24]
ThickAsThieves	like a greedy ignorant little demon	[18:24]
mircea_popescu	i never talked about btc socially for this reason	[18:24]
nubbins`	tat, yes	[18:24]
nubbins`	generally bragging about how much money you have is boorish	[18:25]
ThickAsThieves	it never fails when with my wife at things	[18:25]
nubbins`	and even casually mentioning you own some btc is generally construed as meaning you've got a bunch of money	[18:25]
ThickAsThieves	tell them about what you do!	[18:25]
ThickAsThieves	ugh...	[18:25]
ThickAsThieves	basically i just say "yeah i trade bitcoins"	[18:25]
mircea_popescu	http://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=5.0	[18:26]
ozbot	What is ProtoShares?	[18:26]
mircea_popescu	can anyone explain what the fuck that all is ?	[18:26]
pankkake	mircea_popescu: fucking retarded	[18:26]
pankkake	made me a lot of btc though	[18:26]
pankkake	bytemaster is so stupid	[18:26]
ThickAsThieves	what;s a DAC?	[18:27]
ThickAsThieves	Digital Alt Coin?	[18:27]
nubbins`	dick ass cunt	[18:27]
nubbins`	no idea really	[18:27]
pankkake	but basically he released protoshares, an altcoin, which is has a memory heavy proof of work	[18:27]
pankkake	he planned to mine 30% of it but failed because he got his hardware late and fucked up on diff adjustment	[18:28]
mircea_popescu	lol whatg.	[18:28]
pankkake	so he started trying to want more "decentralized" solutions	[18:28]
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mircea_popescu	so he failed to premine his own alt scam ?	[18:28]
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nubbins`	why does almost everything in the sphere of btc reek of a complete lack of planning?	[18:29]
nubbins`	like	[18:29]
nubbins`	where are the grown-ups?	[18:29]
pankkake	oh also there was a bounty of $5000 for anyone who could prove it would work faster on the gpu (as the objective of the pow was that it shouldn't)	[18:29]
nubbins`	"i can do everything!"	[18:29]
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nubbins`	no, you're 18, you can't	[18:29]
mircea_popescu	coming from nubbins` who just got trampled all to shit hours ago over his poor litigation planning.	[18:29]
nubbins`	trampled, pff	[18:29]
pankkake	then he wanted the exact contrary, make it gpu minable to be more "decentralized"	[18:29]
nubbins`	your doom and gloom has no place here!	[18:29]
pankkake	anyway, the idea is that anything they will release next will be a chain fork of ProtoShares	[18:29]
pankkake	they have "BitShares" or "BitDomains" coming	[18:30]
pankkake	no idea how it is supposed to work	[18:30]
mircea_popescu	planning is hard, homie. if it were easy i'd have to find a honest way to make a living.	[18:30]
pankkake	I'm probably missing and messing up stuff, I am a bit delirious	[18:30]
pankkake	but really, lol	[18:30]
pankkake	I got my btc from the instamine, everything's good	[18:31]
mircea_popescu	how much btc is that ?	[18:31]
pankkake	about 4 I think	[18:31]
pankkake	had I waited it would have been 10	[18:31]
pankkake	but oh well	[18:31]
mircea_popescu	had you stuck the entire thing in your netherhole it'd have been 10 too.	[18:31]
pankkake	do note that it's with zero investment, just the few computers I have running anyway	[18:32]
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mircea_popescu	well ok. thanks for knowing all this obscure shit, it makes my life easier.	[18:33]
pankkake	well, free money	[18:33]
pankkake	those obscure coins sell well, because noobs can't figure out how to mine	[18:33]
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deadweasel	"Hi deadweasel,	[18:34]
deadweasel	and good evening from Indonesia!	[18:34]
deadweasel	Thanks so much for reaching out. I'm embarassed to say, I was not familiar with MPeX - just having a browse noew and getting caught up.	[18:34]
ThickAsThieves	ltc at .0307 btc	[18:34]
deadweasel	Thank you for your supportive words. I did not realize there were similar efforts going on - I hope I am not stepping on any toes.	[18:34]
deadweasel	I'll be very interested to hear more about what is already underway - will look you up soon on IRC then.	[18:34]
deadweasel	Best,	[18:34]
nubbins`	aha	[18:34]
pankkake	MPeX? how do you like that	[18:34]
mircea_popescu	deadweasel you're too good at this i swear.	[18:35]
ThickAsThieves	guy actually sounds reasonable!	[18:35]
nubbins`	^	[18:35]
mircea_popescu	i blame dw.	[18:35]
nubbins`	was gonna say	[18:35]
deadweasel	:)	[18:35]
mircea_popescu	who the fuck knows what he put in the email.	[18:35]
mircea_popescu	coolaid.	[18:35]
nubbins`	that's a polite, lucid response	[18:35]
nubbins`	what's he selling again? ;p	[18:35]
mircea_popescu	http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/Rolling-Square.gif	[18:36]
nubbins`	works wonderfully for some values of "road"	[18:37]
deadweasel	i just wanted to discuss with him. his ideas are interesting, if not usable yet.	[18:37]
mircea_popescu	deadweasel so far he's way above the noob curve, as the others have wisely pointed out.	[18:38]
deadweasel	hope he hops on today.	[18:38]
mircea_popescu	https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-talk/2013-November/031215.html	[18:38]
ozbot	[tor-talk] "Safeplug"	[18:38]
mircea_popescu	this takes the "most retarded thing on tor" award.	[18:39]
ThickAsThieves	"I was on the verge of pulling the trigger at $65 when there was a lull a couple of months ago!! Am kicking myself right now!"	[18:39]
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ThickAsThieves	i like this current magical rewriting of when the price was at certain points	[18:39]
ThickAsThieves	i saw it on CNBC too	[18:39]
pankkake	you'd be safer with a buttplug	[18:39]
ThickAsThieves	announcer saying he bought at $100 last month	[18:40]
nubbins`	^ at least that stops you from getting fucked in the ass	[18:40]
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mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves so now you know the announcer is a lying sob.	[18:40]
thestringpuller	;;ticker	[18:40]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 1043.0, Best ask: 1043.9999, Bid-ask spread: 0.99990, Last trade: 1041.0, 24 hour volume: 31845.13612728, 24 hour low: 877.0, 24 hour high: 1044.0, 24 hour vwap: 960.98895	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	but anyway, bitcoin is now that thing anyone wants to pretend they have.	[18:40]
thestringpuller	wow is it really stabilizing at 1000?	[18:40]
mircea_popescu	due to its anony nature, they can.	[18:40]
pankkake	the first rule about trading bitcoins is lying about your past performance	[18:40]
ThickAsThieves	yes the tone has changed for sure	[18:40]
ThickAsThieves	"My only concern is not even the smartest tech guys I know truly understand it. "	[18:41]
nubbins`	heh	[18:41]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: if someone made a bitcoin charts like api that was more reliable would you be willing to run the MPOE bot off that?	[18:41]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller you got a problem with 1000 ? are you an anti-thousandist ?	[18:41]
ThickAsThieves	theverge.com comments have totally shifted	[18:41]
ThickAsThieves	to regret	[18:41]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller in principle.	[18:41]
nubbins`	no point for me to lie, most people here probably already think i ate too many paint chips as a child	[18:41]
thestringpuller	;;bc,24hprc	[18:41]
gribble	Error: Failed to retrieve data. Try again later.	[18:41]
thestringpuller	cause ^ is ridiculous	[18:41]
mircea_popescu	ikr?	[18:41]
mike_c	i thought bitcoincharts got new hardware.	[18:41]
mircea_popescu	but in its defense, the price is out of band anyway.	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	mike_c yes. it's smaller than before.	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	like a vaginoplasty.	[18:42]
mike_c	maybe they bought those new quantum servers	[18:42]
dexX7	;;goxlag	[18:42]
gribble	MtGox lag is 4.850078 seconds. During this time, light travels 0.00971950200782 AU. You could have sent a bitcoin from Saturn to its largest moon, Titan (0.00802 AU).	[18:42]
nubbins`	"raspi is cheap, let's get a bunch of those and install apache"	[18:42]
thestringpuller	hahaha	[18:42]
mircea_popescu	jajaj	[18:42]
pankkake	there was one company selling hosting on mac minis	[18:42]
nubbins`	lelelelelelelel	[18:43]
thestringpuller	kekekekekekekeke	[18:43]
thestringpuller	zergling rush!	[18:43]
pankkake	héhé	[18:43]
pankkake	why aren't koreans into bitcoin?	[18:43]
nubbins`	seriously, there must be a guy out there somewhere with a beowulf cluster of raspis	[18:43]
mircea_popescu	they are.	[18:43]
pankkake	I wasn't aware	[18:43]
nubbins`	trying to figure out how to get apache to play nice with MPI	[18:44]
ThickAsThieves	wasnt there recent news about korea and btc?	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	https://pogoplug.com/safeplug	[18:44]
ozbot	Safeplug: Safe, Secure, Anonymous Web Browsing From any Device	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	woman's head says... "Activate my safeplug"	[18:44]
mike_c	mp, this is the.. fourth time you are going to have to update strikes this year?	[18:44]
deadweasel	yes, no cap gains	[18:44]
pankkake	oh yes	[18:44]
nubbins`	ThickAsThieves: no tax	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	mike_c something like that	[18:44]
mircea_popescu	two degrees of magnitude in there.	[18:44]
nubbins`	mircea_popescu: is that like, yellow buttplug if you want things to change direction and red buttplug to stop scene immediately?	[18:44]
pankkake	http://bitbet.us/bet/402/non-south-korea/ wow I missed a starcraft bet!	[18:45]
ozbot	BitBet - Non-South Korean to win the Starcraft 2 "2013 DreamHack Open: Stockholm" tournament	[18:45]
nubbins`	^ that shit's on tv there	[18:45]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[18:45]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 1060.0, Best ask: 1069.0, Bid-ask spread: 9.00000, Last trade: 1069.0, 24 hour volume: 32565.53644014, 24 hour low: 877.0, 24 hour high: 1073.0, 24 hour vwap: 963.61072	[18:45]
pankkake	oh you can watch starcraft in bars all over the world now	[18:46]
nubbins`	o	[18:46]
asciilifeform	i once read that in america, it is customary to plug the butts of condemned criminals. they are denied the traditional gallows privilege of shitting themselves.	[18:46]
asciilifeform	this must mean something, culturally.	[18:46]
nubbins`	well, few things feel as good as taking a shit	[18:47]
mike_c	this actually has a chance. insane.	[18:47]
mike_c	http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-11-2013#384211	[18:47]
ozbot	#bitcoin-assets log	[18:47]
asciilifeform	once read that louis xvi and marie a. held it in for a week, prior to their magic date.	[18:48]
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markedathome	so now that bitcoin has passed 1000usd, will 'the good wife' do a followup to their "bitcoin" episode?	[18:48]
ThickAsThieves	i cant bring myself to watch that show	[18:48]
ThickAsThieves	the name, the main actress, all make me squirm	[18:48]
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nubbins`	never watched it, probably won't	[18:48]
ThickAsThieves	i downloaded the bitcoin ep to try it	[18:49]
ThickAsThieves	i made it like 3minutes in	[18:49]
pankkake	the name made me think it was reality tv	[18:49]
nubbins`	fuckit, i'm posting this here too	[18:50]
nubbins`	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fk0Y6Lu_uA	[18:50]
ozbot	Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody (A-Cappella) - YouTube	[18:50]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 7 @ 0.15000105 = 1.05 BTC [-] {4}	[18:50]
nubbins`	awesome	[18:50]
pankkake	I can't listen to this song without thinking of the Wayne's World bit	[18:51]
ThickAsThieves	harmony is def underappreciated	[18:51]
nubbins`	right? people don't sing like this	[18:51]
nubbins`	fucking amazing	[18:52]
assbot	AMAZING COMPANY!	[18:52]
pankkake	it's pretty good, and it's coming from someone who hates most singing	[18:52]
nubbins`	pretty lelly when the headbanging part comes up and it's just silence for like a minute	[18:52]
thestringpuller	!ticker m S.mpoe	[18:53]
assbot	[MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00080752 / 0.00081224 / 0.00083 (30884 shares, 25.09 BTC), 7D: 0.0007725 / 0.00079132 / 0.00085604 (1112027 shares, 879.97 BTC), 30D: 0.0007725 / 0.00082335 / 0.00088996 (5198653 shares, 4,280.36 BTC)	[18:53]
thestringpuller	!last m S.MPOE	[18:53]
assbot	Last trade for S.MPOE on MPEX was at 0.00082913 BTC [+]	[18:53]
thestringpuller	righteous	[18:53]
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nubbins`	this one is pretty sick too:	[18:55]
nubbins`	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Klr5z0hoP04	[18:55]
ozbot	Freddie Mercury vs. Crowd - YouTube	[18:55]
ThickAsThieves	;;baratio	[18:55]
nubbins`	some set of teeth on him	[18:55]
gribble	Total bids: 36829309 USD. Total asks: 14725 BTC. Ratio: 2501.07829 USD/BTC. \| Data vintage: 232.0051 seconds	[18:55]
ThickAsThieves	surely put a fright into some of his lovers	[18:56]
ThickAsThieves	chomp!	[18:56]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.36126667 = 1.0838 BTC [-] {2}	[18:56]
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nubbins`	lel	[18:57]
nubbins`	no doubt	[18:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 5 @ 0.096 = 0.48 BTC [-]	[18:57]
nubbins`	anyway, click that video	[18:57]
Venat	Such bitcoin, nice price. Woah, not central	[18:58]
nubbins`	^ lel	[18:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 25 @ 0.0322 = 0.805 BTC [-]	[18:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.15000104 = 0.3 BTC [-] {2}	[18:58]
Venat	;;ticker	[18:58]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 1062.323, Best ask: 1064.994, Bid-ask spread: 2.67100, Last trade: 1062.323, 24 hour volume: 32653.65049996, 24 hour low: 877.0, 24 hour high: 1073.0, 24 hour vwap: 964.51224	[18:58]
Venat	and we did it	[18:58]
nubbins`	y'know, the first time i bought a Queen cassette, the fucking thing was spooled backwards	[18:58]
nubbins`	i made it through BOTH SIDES of the tape before deciding that this was in fact the case	[18:59]
ThickAsThieves	vid gave me chills	[18:59]
mircea_popescu	harmony is def underappreciated <<	[18:59]
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ThickAsThieves	good stuff	[18:59]
Venat	nubbins`, you the one with the diaries?	[18:59]
nubbins`	?	[19:00]
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ThickAsThieves	freddie mercury babbling sounds on stage can communicate better with a crowd than most leaders	[19:01]
nubbins`	inorite?	[19:01]
nubbins`	the only similarity is the "fuck you" at the end ;D	[19:01]
mircea_popescu	deadweasel o look, your friend was here. you missed him!	[19:02]
Venat	is there a way to track how many addresses there are currently	[19:02]
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mircea_popescu	you could parse the blockchain for all addresses seen so far.	[19:03]
nubbins`	addresses with btc in them?	[19:03]
Venat	i see	[19:04]
nubbins`	there's a ton of these acapella videos on youtube, some of them are pretty funny	[19:04]
nubbins`	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSESEUMQ6WA	[19:04]
nubbins`	not sure why lemmy isn't dead yet	[19:04]
ThickAsThieves	you know there's an easy way to make acappella versions?	[19:05]
ThickAsThieves	it requires the mix to be favorable	[19:05]
ThickAsThieves	newer mixes are impossible usually	[19:05]
nubbins`	nod	[19:05]
nubbins`	you can hear the backing tracks in a lot of these, very faintly	[19:05]
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nubbins`	occasionally you'll find one that's just the naked vocal track from the mixing board, but those are pretty rare	[19:06]
ThickAsThieves	it's like magic when you show someone	[19:06]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14705602 BTC [-]	[19:06]
ThickAsThieves	and explain why	[19:06]
ThickAsThieves	hard to comprehend	[19:06]
nubbins`	the bohemian rhapsody one, you could hear a few piano parts where they happened to be around the same freqs as his voice	[19:07]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 500 @ 0.0005 = 0.25 BTC [+]	[19:07]
nubbins`	hm. would love to find some talking heads vocal tracks	[19:07]
ThickAsThieves	more likely piano leaked into the vocal track	[19:07]
pankkake	http://blog.oleganza.com/post/68246062759/arguments-for-litecoin-are-fraudulent	[19:08]
ozbot	Oleg Andreev - Arguments for Litecoin are fraudulent	[19:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.145 = 0.29 BTC [-]	[19:08]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 18858 @ 0.00007974 = 1.5037 BTC [+] {2}	[19:08]
ThickAsThieves	article is weak	[19:09]
nubbins`	hm, yeah, that's possible too	[19:09]
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drmandude	Anyone from bitbet in here?	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	possibly.	[19:09]
drmandude	http://bitbet.us/bet/626/bitcoin-will-stay-above-1000-for-the-rest/	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	do you bring cookies ?	[19:09]
ozbot	BitBet - Bitcoin will stay above $1000 for the rest of 2013	[19:09]
drmandude	1000 for the rest of 2013	[19:09]
ThickAsThieves	no coin NEEDS to win	[19:09]
drmandude	but there's 10 months of closing time	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	ono ?!	[19:09]
pankkake	that's not the point of the article	[19:09]
ThickAsThieves	its the premise	[19:09]
mircea_popescu	bah. ty for saying	[19:10]
ThickAsThieves	that LTC is useless unless it beats BTC	[19:10]
pankkake	let's say "unless it offers something else"	[19:10]
thestringpuller	mircea_popescu: I'm the cookie guy!!!!	[19:10]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.00049999 = 0.5 BTC [-]	[19:10]
ThickAsThieves	bitcoin could fork	[19:10]
ThickAsThieves	and both forks live forever	[19:10]
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thestringpuller	there should be a bet for that ThickAsThieves	[19:11]
thestringpuller	bitcoin forks in 2014	[19:11]
nubbins`	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb6izAqdTnc	[19:11]
ozbot	Talking Heads - Fear of Music - YouTube	[19:11]
mircea_popescu	that's about as unlikely as your favourite gf spontaneously cloning	[19:11]
thestringpuller	err bitcoin blockchain forks in 2014	[19:11]
mircea_popescu	i mean... bacteria do it...	[19:11]
nubbins`	full album, not acapella, w/e	[19:11]
nubbins`	grow up and listen to it	[19:11]
ThickAsThieves	i argue that you are wrong because it is already the case	[19:11]
mircea_popescu	thestringpuller that;s actually a good bet.	[19:11]
ThickAsThieves	litecoin being a btc fork	[19:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 7 @ 0.09008572 = 0.6306 BTC [-] {2}	[19:11]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2020 @ 0.00005446 = 0.11 BTC [-] {2}	[19:11]
mircea_popescu	i thought you meant blockchain fork	[19:11]
mircea_popescu	not software fork	[19:11]
ThickAsThieves	i did, as an example that it's also possible	[19:12]
ThickAsThieves	however unlikely it may be	[19:12]
ThickAsThieves	i personally dont find it to be THAT impossible	[19:12]
mircea_popescu	so is the cloning gf.	[19:12]
pankkake	they'd both call the other one the altcoin	[19:12]
pankkake	one would be named "the real bitcoin"	[19:12]
mircea_popescu	it'd resolve within a week.	[19:12]
pankkake	the other "the realest bitcoin"	[19:12]
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ThickAsThieves	bitcoin red and bitcoin black	[19:12]
ThickAsThieves	or such	[19:12]
pankkake	probably over issuing a block of 100000 BTC for a bailout	[19:12]
nubbins`	like the original ghostbusters vs the real ghostbusters	[19:12]
mircea_popescu	pankkake nah, that'd make it clear which is the wrong one	[19:13]
mircea_popescu	and it'd sink within days	[19:13]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14360952 BTC [-]	[19:13]
ThickAsThieves	http://coinmarketcap.com/	[19:13]
ozbot	Crypto-Currency Market Capitalizations \| Bitcoin Litecoin Peercoin Namecoin Primecoin Feathercoin No	[19:13]
ThickAsThieves	look, millions in several coins	[19:13]
pankkake	feathercoin +50%, lel	[19:14]
mircea_popescu	you have to appreciate the following mechanism : if there's a blockchain fork, the two forks can be sold and bought independently.	[19:14]
pankkake	infinitecoin has a better progression than litecoin	[19:14]
mircea_popescu	everyone has an incentive to sell the loser RIGHT NOW while the price is still good	[19:14]
ThickAsThieves	exactly	[19:14]
mircea_popescu	nobody has any incentive to wait.	[19:14]
mircea_popescu	so the sinking of the identifiably bad chain will flash.	[19:14]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 2 @ 0.085 = 0.17 BTC [-]	[19:14]
ThickAsThieves	what about the people on the winning side?	[19:14]
ThickAsThieves	they should wait, no?	[19:14]
mircea_popescu	if there's doubt it may linger, but it is possibly the most unstable situation in naturel.	[19:14]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves you're always on both sides of a fork. by definition.	[19:15]
mircea_popescu	gotta sell one.	[19:15]
ThickAsThieves	what of the circumstance creates that uncertainty	[19:15]
ThickAsThieves	if	[19:15]
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mircea_popescu	it will still resolve, because the slightest randomness will amplify	[19:15]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.14300001 BTC [-]	[19:15]
mircea_popescu	it may come down to which gets a 1hr block firsty	[19:15]
mircea_popescu	or something like that, but it will resolve.	[19:15]
pankkake	there's a blockchain fork of bitcoin already, the bitcoin-scrypt thing	[19:16]
ThickAsThieves	maybe so	[19:16]
ThickAsThieves	however none of this leads back to LTC arguments being fraudulent	[19:16]
ThickAsThieves	as the article suggest	[19:16]
ThickAsThieves	s	[19:16]
mircea_popescu	this is all a discussion of a blockchain fork, not of a software fork	[19:16]
mircea_popescu	software forks are quite stable.	[19:16]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 2700 @ 0.00008188 = 0.2211 BTC [+] {3}	[19:17]
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ThickAsThieves	heh	[19:18]
ThickAsThieves	is that the HIF opening trade?	[19:18]
nubbins`	oh my!	[19:19]
nubbins`	forgot about that	[19:19]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.3612 BTC [-]	[19:19]
nubbins`	opening trade: 2013-11-27 12:06:31 2000 ฿0.00002500 ฿0.0500	[19:19]
deadweasel	time to start truly mining bitcoins: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/27/hard-drive-bitcoin-landfill-site	[19:19]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4767 @ 0.00084209 = 4.0142 BTC [+]	[19:20]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 4 @ 0.119975 = 0.4799 BTC [+] {2}	[19:20]
nubbins`	there appears to be a large amount of fail happening with HIF	[19:20]
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nubbins`	people not counting their zeroes	[19:21]
mircea_popescu	that's an endemic problem.	[19:21]
pankkake	HIF: High Investement Failure	[19:21]
nubbins`	turns out leading zeroes ARE significant if they're on the right-hand side of the decimal	[19:22]
nubbins`	seriously, the first trade was at 5% of ipo price	[19:22]
nubbins`	my sides	[19:22]
mircea_popescu	wait what ?!	[19:22]
nubbins`	YES	[19:22]
ThickAsThieves	maybe that;s fair value	[19:23]
nubbins`	https://www.havelockinvestments.com/order.php?symbol=HIF	[19:23]
mircea_popescu	ouch.	[19:23]
pankkake	I'm not even sure	[19:23]
pankkake	Humongous Investment Fraud	[19:23]
mircea_popescu	well in fairness s.dice got sold once into i don't recall but sometjhing like that, 10% of avg.	[19:23]
mircea_popescu	that was a 10k btc loss or thereabouts for the hapless author.	[19:24]
nubbins`	you can almost hear the screams of anguish	[19:24]
nubbins`	math, important	[19:24]
ThickAsThieves	and a huge gain for the bidder, cuz it was probly the week before closing	[19:24]
ThickAsThieves	and the bidder was probly erik	[19:24]
mircea_popescu	nah, it was a month ior so after listing	[19:24]
markedathome	7500btc	[19:24]
ThickAsThieves	oh	[19:25]
mircea_popescu	the buyer(s) ? made ouyt like bandits	[19:25]
ThickAsThieves	i recall some great buys before closing too	[19:25]
ThickAsThieves	the week before	[19:25]
nubbins`	yeah, there was a spell there	[19:25]
mircea_popescu	20ish something yeah	[19:25]
ThickAsThieves	too bad no one would sell off xbond before closing :(	[19:26]
pankkake	well, hadn't I held it, I would have told you to fake financial difficulties	[19:26]
ThickAsThieves	haha	[19:26]
pankkake	or just hint	[19:26]
ThickAsThieves	i just couldnt	[19:26]
mircea_popescu	kinda scummy thing to do.	[19:27]
nubbins`	scumbag asset manager	[19:27]
nubbins`	where's that burberry baseball cap...	[19:27]
ThickAsThieves	very landlordian	[19:27]
nubbins`	like a landlord from a dickens novel	[19:27]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 70 @ 0.0035 = 0.245 BTC [-] {2}	[19:27]
nubbins`	can i just say that i had no idea how much having a safety deposit box makes you feel like a baller?	[19:28]
ThickAsThieves	LOL	[19:28]
nubbins`	srsly, special privacy rooms and shit	[19:28]
ThickAsThieves	oops caps	[19:28]
nubbins`	"i'll just give you some privacy, mr keefe"	[19:28]
mircea_popescu	i wonder how long before google starts running its own blockchain	[19:28]
ThickAsThieves	hmm OneFixt is calling a drop to 760, 600	[19:28]
ThickAsThieves	pretty bold	[19:29]
mircea_popescu	in order to be able to serve queries like google 2bce51603d490da5a76b56a8f36665b26ed9a4cc1da24e5eedf1101a25d96155	[19:29]
nubbins`	hm	[19:29]
nubbins`	probably only a matter of time	[19:29]
pankkake	why would they need something decentralized?	[19:29]
nubbins`	you can already do a crazy amount of stuff via google	[19:29]
ThickAsThieves	maybe they find way to circumvent NSA via blockchain	[19:29]
mircea_popescu	the blockchain ios such a poor messaging protocol./	[19:30]
pankkake	actually bitcoin is more, it's trustless	[19:30]
ThickAsThieves	more likely,	[19:30]
pankkake	and google could trust all its nodes	[19:30]
ThickAsThieves	theyll start gathering data on BTC addresses	[19:30]
ThickAsThieves	to start tagging them	[19:30]
deadweasel	~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~	[19:30]
nubbins`	https://www.google.ca/search?q=once+in+a+blue+moon+*+number+of+horns+on+a+unicorn	[19:30]
deadweasel	sry	[19:30]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves all data is already gathered ya know ?	[19:31]
ThickAsThieves	1Gkjhkf456KGHFrtds449875t85 addy will have "like cat videos" "shops at newegg" etc	[19:31]
pankkake	what's this blue moon thing?	[19:31]
nubbins`	actual lunar occurrence	[19:31]
nubbins`	https://www.google.ca/search?q=the+answer+to+life%2C+the+universe+and+everything+*+the+loneliest+number	[19:31]
nubbins`	and so on	[19:31]
pankkake	oh, sad 1 :/	[19:32]
nubbins`	D:	[19:32]
ThickAsThieves	how is it not worth $7.5m to dig up a 4-foot deep football field?	[19:33]
nubbins`	https://www.google.ca/search?q=a+baker's+dozen+%2F+once+in+a+blue+moon	[19:33]
nubbins`	well, it's an active landfill	[19:33]
nubbins`	he's probably not allowed	[19:33]
ThickAsThieves	he talks like he is	[19:33]
ThickAsThieves	he basically says he doesnt feel like it	[19:33]
nubbins`	maybe he should rent an excavator like he is	[19:33]
nubbins`	i mean, how would you ever find it anyway	[19:34]
nubbins`	you'd literally have to sort through every piece of trash	[19:34]
ThickAsThieves	well you put everything on a conveyor back into the dump	[19:34]
ThickAsThieves	and stand there every day	[19:34]
nubbins`	every empty potato chip bag, every shitty diaper	[19:34]
nubbins`	and then at the end you find a smashed hard drive covered in dog vomit	[19:35]
nubbins`	and thusly commit your body to the dump	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	that drive is gone	[19:35]
nubbins`	as a final gesture of anguish	[19:35]
mircea_popescu	andthe story smells like attention whoring tbh.	[19:35]
ThickAsThieves	probly	[19:35]
deadweasel	yup	[19:36]
ThickAsThieves	but those coins are probly $20m or whatever next week...	[19:36]
nubbins`	"hard luck, plz donate to 1TotallyDidntMakeStoryUp92837	[19:36]
nubbins`	"	[19:36]
pankkake	even if fake I'm sure that story happenned elsewhere or will	[19:36]
pankkake	but no one will talk about it	[19:36]
nubbins`	pretty much broadcasting your idiocy to the world	[19:37]
nubbins`	why not just use the forums, amirite?	[19:37]
ThickAsThieves	i coulda been a contender!	[19:37]
mircea_popescu	lol nubbins` has it.	[19:37]
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nubbins`	(snare x2, crash x1)	[19:37]
ThickAsThieves	badoom tsssss	[19:37]
nubbins`	http://instantrimshot.com/	[19:38]
ozbot	Welcome to Instant Rimshot	[19:38]
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pankkake	on the french forum one guy claimed to have many bitcoins but password protected and he forgot it	[19:38]
nubbins`	y'know, i didn't really intend for this to be my nick	[19:38]
pankkake	but at the time wallet encryption didn't exist	[19:38]
nubbins`	i wanted to post something on the forums and just signed up with the first word that popped into my head	[19:39]
pankkake	and he wouldn't reply on what he used to encrypt it	[19:39]
nubbins`	pankkake: winzip ;)	[19:39]
pankkake	hehe, well, if it was, it would be so easily recoverable	[19:39]
nubbins`	WAIT YOU CAN CRACK WINZIP PASSWORDS?!!?!?	[19:39]
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deadweasel	ya	[19:39]
deadweasel	srs?	[19:39]
pankkake	the old algorithms are pretty bad IIRC	[19:39]
nubbins`	not srs	[19:40]
ThickAsThieves	so in 2020 will we have treasure hunters scowering the earth for computers trashed in 2011, 2012	[19:40]
deadweasel	:D	[19:40]
mircea_popescu	ThickAsThieves they all go to africa	[19:40]
mircea_popescu	so yet another reason for those ppl to import old hardware.	[19:40]
deadweasel	fuck, better get started now! i could start getting togbether an ultrasonic profile of laptop drive matching the model... maybe I could find it.	[19:40]
ThickAsThieves	well i'd approach it dmeographically first	[19:41]
deadweasel	although I'd also hav eto know the profile of every piece of shitty garbage	[19:41]
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ThickAsThieves	try to pinpoint hubs of people likely to have mined somehow	[19:41]
ThickAsThieves	like maybe all these PCs are still in garages	[19:41]
ThickAsThieves	since no one throws their PCs away	[19:42]
ThickAsThieves	or in thrift stores	[19:42]
ThickAsThieves	salvation armies and such	[19:42]
mircea_popescu	thrift store owner, the job of the future.	[19:42]
deadweasel	you should run a computer disposal service that only accepts btc!	[19:42]
ThickAsThieves	thats not right	[19:42]
ThickAsThieves	wrong audience	[19:42]
nubbins`	people pay to dispose of computers?	[19:42]
deadweasel	not very much, but yes, they have to. enviro terror otherwise	[19:43]
nubbins`	have to != do	[19:43]
nubbins`	you "have to" pay $50 to throw an old television away	[19:43]
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nubbins`	but people just toss 'em into the bins at the dump anyway	[19:43]
deadweasel	big companies pay, individuals won't	[19:43]
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nubbins`	yeah, fair enough	[19:44]
deadweasel	they do, don't they? i forget how much garbage is actually sorted.	[19:44]
nubbins`	depends on the region	[19:44]
deadweasel	i lived on a landfill for a few weeks. reclaimed section with exotic wildlife on it, mind you.	[19:44]
ThickAsThieves	this really has to be the dumps problem	[19:44]
nubbins`	they decided to build the dump at the edge of the ocean here	[19:44]
pankkake	I still use a 15 year old computer!	[19:44]
pankkake	I'm like totally environmental	[19:45]
nubbins`	there's a lovely section of the East Coast Trail that runs right past it	[19:45]
nubbins`	woods littered with teeny tiny bits of plastic	[19:45]
nubbins`	and a big sign at the end that says "why not use less plastic bags?"	[19:45]
markedathome	so new money making scheme is to buy every corporate hd on ebay to see if they have bitcoin wallets?	[19:45]
ThickAsThieves	lol the thing is so old it couldnt pass a an emissions inspection probly	[19:45]
deadweasel	plastic bags were a bane, I basically went around picking them up all day so animals wouldn't choke.	[19:45]
nubbins`	plastic bags are moronically wasteful	[19:46]
mircea_popescu	http://liberationbc.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/turtle-caught-in-plastic-ring.jpg	[19:46]
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pankkake	works with humans too https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Kayan_woman_with_neck_rings.jpg	[19:47]
mircea_popescu	In 2009, marine biologists with Disney’s Animal Programs in Melbourne Beach, Florida, discovered a green sea turtle that was having trouble digesting food. They found that a piece of plastic had lodged in the turtle’s gastrointestinal tract. When biologists removed the obstruction, the turtle defecated 74 foreign objects in the subsequent month. Among the items documented were four types of latex balloons, five dif	[19:47]
mircea_popescu	ferent types of string, nine different types of soft plastic, four different types of hard plastic, a piece of carpet-like material, and two tar balls to boot.	[19:47]
pankkake	:/	[19:48]
pankkake	I hate litterers	[19:48]
mircea_popescu	tar balls!	[19:48]
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ThickAsThieves	that turtle has a strange appetite	[19:49]
nubbins`	yeah	[19:49]
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deadweasel	that is documented it nearly every living animal these days, some sort of plastic.	[19:49]
nubbins`	not even dogs are that stupid	[19:49]
nubbins`	seriously, tar balls	[19:49]
pankkake	tar balls, that's unixe	[19:49]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 34 @ 0.0035 = 0.119 BTC [-]	[19:49]
deadweasel	they eat shit	[19:49]
deadweasel	tar balls surprise?	[19:49]
nubbins`	at least shit was food at some point	[19:49]
deadweasel	it is a pretty cool looking turtle mind you.	[19:49]
nubbins`	nod	[19:49]
deadweasel	baddonkadonk	[19:50]
nubbins`	given the choice, i'm sure he'd rather have skipped the corsetry tho	[19:50]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.3612 = 2.5284 BTC [-]	[19:50]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM100] 35 @ 0.0034312 = 0.1201 BTC [-]	[19:50]
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deadweasel	most women ofthe 18th century would have too.	[19:50]
deadweasel	but fuck'em	[19:50]
deadweasel	and butt fuck'em	[19:50]
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deadweasel	because btc @1000!	[19:50]
pankkake	AM100 is now worth 1 LTC!	[19:50]
mircea_popescu	lmao all this hating.	[19:50]
mircea_popescu	women kinda like corsets from what i've seen	[19:51]
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*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com \|\| http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading \|\| http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com - all days worth reading \| kakobrekla is a bitbet shill	[20:53]
*	Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Tue Nov 26 04:20:21 2013	[20:53]
pankkake	AM seized by chinese gov	[20:53]
kakobrekla	;;seen mircea_popescu	[20:53]
gribble	mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 2 minutes, and 52 seconds ago: lmao all this hating.	[20:53]
kakobrekla	bah	[20:53]
kakobrekla	ah hes back	[20:54]
mircea_popescu	lol	[20:54]
ThickAsThieves	kako he just	[20:54]
ThickAsThieves	:)	[20:54]
kakobrekla	did he just joined??	[20:54]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.35 = 1.4 BTC [-]	[20:54]
ThickAsThieves	hehe	[20:54]
kakobrekla	i dont see joins and parts	[20:54]
pankkake	oh you ignore joins	[20:54]
kakobrekla	yea	[20:54]
pankkake	that's what you get for being silly	[20:54]
TomServo	"Bitcoin will stay above $1000 for the rest of 2013" The shortest bitbet ever?	[20:54]
ThickAsThieves	it actually got made?	[20:54]
pankkake	bitbet never loses an occasion to scam	[20:55]
mircea_popescu	TomServo wrong expiry on it. should be redone	[20:55]
ThickAsThieves	;;ticker	[20:55]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 993.0, Best ask: 995.0, Bid-ask spread: 2.00000, Last trade: 993.0, 24 hour volume: 41434.49020845, 24 hour low: 890.0, 24 hour high: 1073.0, 24 hour vwap: 973.35555	[20:55]
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ThickAsThieves	maybe wait til its 1000 again for more than 4 hours	[20:55]
ThickAsThieves	:)	[20:56]
mircea_popescu	nubbins`:	[20:56]
mircea_popescu	total noob question here, but are there any traditional assets that are traded simultaneously on, say, NYSE/LSE/TSE? << depositary receipts are used	[20:56]
mircea_popescu	so rthings like bp trade in europe and the us.	[20:56]
mircea_popescu	it's practically a pt system tho.	[20:56]
pankkake	eheh, btctctc used "depositary receipts" in its last days	[20:57]
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BingoBoingo	I believe I fixed the specs for my BFL versus Active Miner submission using https://products.butterflylabs.com/homepage-new-products/600-gh-bitcoin-mining-card.html and http://virtualminingcorp.com/shop1/index.php?id_product=23&controller=product	[20:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 56 @ 0.00194153 = 0.1087 BTC [-] {4}	[20:58]
pankkake	BingoBoingo: did you see my previous submission of the same bet?	[20:58]
pankkake	the desc is cut so I can't see what you did in case of none of them delivering	[20:58]
BingoBoingo	pankkake: Not really. How thoroughly did you try to spec it?	[20:59]
pankkake	BingoBoingo: http://pastebin.com/mdhGxhzP	[21:00]
pankkake	I excluded shareholders for VMC	[21:00]
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pankkake	and specs are quite generous, it wast mostly about at least shipping something	[21:00]
pankkake	it was rejected because of last line	[21:00]
pankkake	"draws suck"	[21:00]
pankkake	interesting that you had the same idea	[21:01]
pankkake	I see that as a "Cripple Fight"	[21:01]
BingoBoingo	pankkake: Well, draws do suck. The solution is the bet has to fail as No, and bettors have to price accordingly for that.	[21:01]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7500 @ 0.00083754 = 6.2816 BTC [-] {2}	[21:02]
pankkake	but then you can't really have a live estimate of which company sucks more	[21:02]
pankkake	and if both doen't ship, no winners, but lot of lols	[21:03]
pankkake	perhaps lols aren't worth 1% fee	[21:03]
mike_c	soccer (er, futbol) lines resolve 3 ways. maybe 'draw' should be a betting option.	[21:03]
BingoBoingo	pankkake: Well if you truly believe it is a cripple fight, the solution is bet No and wait for March 1st	[21:03]
pankkake	I feel like BFL will ship first, though the lols provided would be payment enough	[21:04]
BingoBoingo	pankkake: Well you chose the same yes side I did. I'm not sure activeminer is even as much of a thing so I placed it as no with them both not delivering hoping it might get action at least as a BFL delivery bet.	[21:06]
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mircea_popescu	mike_c soccer sucks.	[21:07]
mircea_popescu	(for that reason)	[21:07]
pankkake	well the order website states november delivery	[21:07]
pankkake	so logically, VMC should ship before BFL announcing december	[21:07]
mike_c	well, as long as all possibilites are reasonable, it doesn't have to suck. horse races are parimutuel and have 8-12 outcomes	[21:08]
pankkake	MP logic "it doesn't work on my system, so it sucks"	[21:08]
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BingoBoingo	pankkake: Well the butthurt from the ActiveMining fans that their being delivered pays as no delivery at all should lead to some entertaining butthurt, and what is Bitcoin without Butt?	[21:10]
pankkake	exactly	[21:10]
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mircea_popescu	pankkake hater.	[21:13]
mircea_popescu	mike_c we are looking into perhaps making multi bets, it's not too hard to do, but tbh the mindfuck may be too much for the userbase.	[21:14]
pankkake	I don't know if I could fix myself to be less of a hater. I regularly fail	[21:14]
pankkake	a good idea would probably to find out actual interesting bets that would need it	[21:14]
mircea_popescu	that too.	[21:15]
mircea_popescu	soccer still sucks, becauyse "draw" is fucking meaningless.	[21:15]
mircea_popescu	nevertheless, a horse race say, should have a win for each horse	[21:15]
mircea_popescu	just... not much horse racing in btc. since the demise of the satoshi demon gal.	[21:15]
mike_c	agree with the mindfuck aspect of the problem. reject/accept bet ratio could get way out of wack.	[21:17]
mircea_popescu	for one. for the other, i'd have a "but i meant to bet on x3, misclicked bet on x5, bitbet is a scam now" stuff	[21:18]
mircea_popescu	on top of all the current.	[21:18]
mike_c	yeah, but that just drives more traffic as far as i can tell.	[21:18]
mircea_popescu	so far at least.	[21:19]
mircea_popescu	still, you know. contrary to what the forum would have itself think, bitbet is designed to prevent as much of this as possible	[21:19]
pankkake	the bet address page restates the bet	[21:19]
mircea_popescu	which includes waiting fucking hours to close bets etc.	[21:19]
mircea_popescu	pankkake people never read restatements. because it's below them to do such humiliating thing.	[21:19]
pankkake	I always do it because I'm a careful paranoid person	[21:20]
mircea_popescu	makes you weird.	[21:20]
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gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 985.0, Best ask: 986.9, Bid-ask spread: 1.90000, Last trade: 985.0, 24 hour volume: 42381.76664170, 24 hour low: 894.0, 24 hour high: 1073.0, 24 hour vwap: 974.96278	[21:23]
mircea_popescu	o wow it retraced	[21:23]
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mircea_popescu	thanks god i didn't have a bet with anyone or anything.	[21:23]
ThickAsThieves	:)	[21:24]
mircea_popescu	lol	[21:24]
ThickAsThieves	i spared you	[21:24]
mircea_popescu	fucking bet went in with a closure date in nov 2014	[21:24]
ThickAsThieves	bitbet savings bank	[21:24]
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mircea_popescu	and trust.	[21:25]
ThickAsThieves	indeed	[21:25]
mircea_popescu	trust is important.	[21:25]
ThickAsThieves	and forum trust points are even more important	[21:25]
dexX7	are there any cases that people reported scams to the feds and what happend then? pirateat40 excluded	[21:26]
ThickAsThieves	just stories afaik	[21:26]
mircea_popescu	dexX7 the only successful scam resolution that i know of,	[21:26]
dexX7	ty	[21:26]
pankkake	http://bitbet.us/bet/625/btc-will-rise-above-1500-usd-before-february/#c1921	[21:26]
ozbot	BitBet - BTC will rise above $1500 USD before February 2014	[21:26]
kakobrekla	dexX7 pirate beat his wifey and ended up in jail	[21:26]
mircea_popescu	is one case when a forum group organised and got avalon to deliver to them the items ordered by the scammer	[21:26]
mircea_popescu	(ian bakewell it was iirc)	[21:27]
dexX7	ah	[21:27]
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dexX7	the guy with the socket	[21:27]
dexX7	yea	[21:27]
mircea_popescu	so you knopw, purely vigilante.	[21:27]
kakobrekla	i knew he was up to no good as soon as i saw HUGO shirt	[21:27]
ThickAsThieves	i didnt know that one	[21:27]
ThickAsThieves	neat	[21:27]
mircea_popescu	the unsuccessful case is, of course, the case of the birtcoinica people, who had their btc sent to mtgox,	[21:27]
mircea_popescu	which is pretty much keeping it.	[21:27]
mircea_popescu	well, what was left of their btc anyway, 15% or whatever it was.	[21:28]
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kakobrekla	dont deal with hugo shit people	[21:29]
kakobrekla	shirt	[21:29]
kakobrekla	or and shit too.	[21:29]
mircea_popescu	what's a hugo shirt ?	[21:29]
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kakobrekla	http://scammer-ianbakewell.com/assets/ianbakewell_sock.jpg	[21:30]
kakobrekla	hugo boss	[21:30]
mircea_popescu	uh.	[21:31]
mircea_popescu	that's just a tshirt	[21:31]
kakobrekla	the wrong kind of	[21:31]
pankkake	I wouldn't trust people with this shirt either	[21:31]
kakobrekla	pankkake has an eye.	[21:31]
pankkake	I don't trust people who dress in white too	[21:31]
pankkake	worst is white socks	[21:32]
nubbins`	he's actually wearing two hugo boss shirts	[21:32]
kakobrekla	we call people who dress like that "cefurji"	[21:32]
pankkake	two? that's like the multiple popped collar	[21:33]
mircea_popescu	pankkake white looks great on womenz.	[21:33]
mircea_popescu	*that aren't fat	[21:33]
ThickAsThieves	surely pankkake already also has women on his list	[21:33]
pankkake	I have a thing for women dressed in black	[21:33]
pankkake	but yes indeed ThickAsThieves :D	[21:33]
ThickAsThieves	of things not trusted	[21:33]
mircea_popescu	lol scammed.	[21:34]
assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2400 @ 0.00084209 = 2.021 BTC [+]	[21:35]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.39074997 = 3.9075 BTC [+] {4}	[21:39]
ThickAsThieves	AM div is reportedly 0.00199664	[21:41]
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ThickAsThieves	some neat alt hip hop if anyone's interested, like modest mouse rap https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U58euuM_hLU&feature=youtu.be	[21:46]
pankkake	the only hip hop I listen to is dälek, but this is nice	[21:51]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 49 @ 0.00226 = 0.1107 BTC [-]	[21:56]
ThickAsThieves	listening to them now, not bad	[21:57]
pankkake	oh I thought you would know them already	[21:57]
kakobrekla	iirc there was some bug found in bitmessage which made the whole thing completley insecure	[21:58]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.39799996 BTC [+]	[21:58]
kakobrekla	was dat fixed?	[21:58]
mircea_popescu	kakobrekla iirc was not.	[21:59]
BingoBoingo	kakobrekla: I though that was CryptoCat, I haven't heard about anything like that with BitMessage yet. I've not used Bitmessage though because the people who use it seem way too derpy.	[22:02]
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kakobrekla	ah hm possibly	[22:03]
pankkake	cryptocat was broken by design	[22:03]
pankkake	bitmessage had a flaw I forgot which	[22:03]
Apocalyptic	who is using BitMessage here by the way ?	[22:03]
pankkake	I tried to use it, but just leaving it running used too much power	[22:04]
BingoBoingo	Ah, found a writeup on a bitmessage vulnerability http://bitslog.wordpress.com/2012/11/30/bitmessage-completely-broken-crypto/	[22:04]
pankkake	http://www.coindesk.com/votebox-dropbox-datashell-storage/ it's a dropbox for bitcoiners. will their business model be stealing wallet.dats?	[22:05]
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KRS1	i would	[22:22]
KRS1	shiet, its magic internet money nigga	[22:23]
kakobrekla	back to cleartext MSN then!	[22:25]
pankkake	not sure if teenager spelling is cleartext	[22:25]
kakobrekla	lol	[22:26]
kakobrekla	the thing is dead anyway	[22:26]
kakobrekla	merged with skype since ms has the skype keys anyway	[22:26]
pankkake	a part of my childhood, killed by the evil empire	[22:26]
kakobrekla	i used that thing but i was on irc way before	[22:27]
pankkake	hmm that too, but msn was mostly for normal people	[22:27]
pankkake	and well girls	[22:27]
kakobrekla	even when i didnt even have a computer at home	[22:27]
kakobrekla	i was in the library	[22:28]
nubbins`	i was i think 13 when i discovered irc	[22:28]
kakobrekla	on irc	[22:28]
nubbins`	maybe 14	[22:28]
kakobrekla	as long as quota allowed	[22:28]
mircea_popescu	girls were on irc...	[22:29]
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mircea_popescu	boys used to play golden axe and deathtrack	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	and girls used to irc.	[22:29]
kakobrekla	the lib was a good place to pick up girls though	[22:29]
pankkake	yeah, actually some girls were on irc	[22:29]
kakobrekla	not the irc	[22:29]
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pankkake	and cute ones too	[22:29]
mircea_popescu	well, at that age all girls are cute.	[22:30]
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kakobrekla	i admint, i found the current one on irc.	[22:30]
kakobrekla	admit	[22:30]
kakobrekla	minnum	[22:30]
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kakobrekla	mininum	[22:30]
kakobrekla	cant even spell the mis-spell	[22:31]
Sebastan	is the purpose of this chatroom to get informed about trades of securities that paid for being tracked here?	[22:31]
kakobrekla	and sex education	[22:31]
pankkake	I think exchanges close before they can implement assbot communication	[22:31]
nubbins`	Sebastan: i'm not sure anyone pays	[22:32]
kakobrekla	pankkake yet it only takes a minute.	[22:32]
Sebastan	so at the end its a chat loosely speaking about bitcoin securities?	[22:32]
pankkake	and personal insecurities	[22:32]
kakobrekla	you dont have to say it like you sound dissapointed	[22:32]
Sebastan	:)	[22:33]
pankkake	if you're looking for trades theres #bitcoin-assets-trades	[22:33]
lyspooner	but we do speak loosely	[22:33]
kakobrekla	best way to find out is to stay around and see, also check the log!	[22:33]
nubbins`	^	[22:33]
Sebastan	ok...	[22:33]
kakobrekla	follow the links in the topic	[22:34]
kakobrekla	speaking of topic	[22:34]
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nubbins`	;;ticker	[22:35]
gribble	MtGox BTCUSD ticker \| Best bid: 1034.1, Best ask: 1039.5, Bid-ask spread: 5.40000, Last trade: 1039.5, 24 hour volume: 37177.24309324, 24 hour low: 914.31556, 24 hour high: 1073.0, 24 hour vwap: 984.54527	[22:35]
Apocalyptic	kako is no longer a shill	[22:35]
mircea_popescu	Sebastan it's the smoking lounge the nyse wishes it had, basically.	[22:35]
mircea_popescu	Apocalyptic he got fired. his shilling sucked.	[22:35]
Apocalyptic	heh	[22:35]
kakobrekla	now i just fwd emails to mp	[22:35]
lyspooner	what is firstblockchain.com? do they have company polo shirts? stress balls?	[22:36]
nubbins`	i don't think it's called a stress ball if you sit on it	[22:36]
pankkake	if any of you tinfoil hats use openbsd, you can now donate to them with bitcoin	[22:36]
nubbins`	orly!	[22:36]
mircea_popescu	lyspooner guy was by earlier.	[22:36]
lyspooner	should i read the log or did you just make fun of him?	[22:37]
nubbins`	"OpenBSD: Only two remote holes in the default install, in a heck of a long time!"	[22:37]
kakobrekla	"Never ever hacked. ~ A block of granit"	[22:38]
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mircea_popescu	lyspooner he said nothing.	[22:38]
lyspooner	i can see that it's incorporated in the blockchain, but i can't see what it does	[22:38]
dub	"*BSD: just slam your dick in a door a few times then install debian"	[22:39]
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nubbins`	hahaha	[22:40]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 6 @ 0.03210208 = 0.1926 BTC [-] {2}	[22:42]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 48 @ 0.03104832 = 1.4903 BTC [-] {5}	[22:43]
BingoBoingo	I too once had a stateless corporation, until I opened the box and its state was revealed to as dead. Or maybe it was a cat...	[22:43]
mircea_popescu	a catporation	[22:43]
lyspooner	catpooration	[22:44]
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lyspooner	how about proof of existence... is that a nice thing?	[22:44]
lyspooner	like, the website, not the proof that one exists	[22:45]
lyspooner	or how about a more general questions for the group here: are there any bitcoin companies that use the blockchain in unique ways and produce revenue, other than provably fair casinos or notarial services?	[22:46]
mircea_popescu	provably fair gambling is so far the most notable practical use of the blockchain.	[22:46]
lyspooner	can't we extend provable fairness elsewhere and make money?	[22:47]
mircea_popescu	if you do i'll list you.	[22:47]
lyspooner	cool, i like your style	[22:48]
lyspooner	but i'm not nearly that clever	[22:48]
mircea_popescu	there MAY be some use of the blockchain to force distribution of inheritances according to the will of the deceased and without possibility of taxation or other interference	[22:49]
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kakobrekla	so with the recent update in btc price, .bit tld seems plausible	[22:50]
kakobrekla	this was discussed before	[22:50]
kakobrekla	nothing happend	[22:50]
mircea_popescu	maybe using something like http://trilema.com/2013/the-perfect-escrow/ or maybe something else	[22:50]
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mircea_popescu	kakobrekla isn't that what namecoin is all about ?	[22:51]
kakobrekla	yeah but who is going to use that	[22:51]
kakobrekla	:D	[22:51]
mircea_popescu	lol	[22:51]
kakobrekla	you can sell sex.bit for millions allover again	[22:51]
mircea_popescu	it only costs like 1k btc to buy the tld iirc.	[22:52]
kakobrekla	yup	[22:52]
kakobrekla	or was it 10?	[22:52]
kakobrekla	well 1 or 10	[22:52]
mircea_popescu	lol. that may be a business idea, i recall we discussed it earlier this year	[22:52]
kakobrekla	yes it was discussed	[22:52]
mircea_popescu	back when btc was 100 or w/e	[22:52]
kakobrekla	it stuck in my mind a bit.	[22:52]
kakobrekla	see what i did there, pun	[22:53]
mircea_popescu	lol	[22:53]
TomServo	Speaking of tlds, what was with the latest batch? .plumbing? really?	[22:53]
mircea_popescu	TomServo what seriously ? lmao	[22:53]
kakobrekla	sex.plumbing	[22:53]
kakobrekla	works	[22:53]
mircea_popescu	why do you keep wanting to sell sex ?	[22:53]
TomServo	could probably have some fun with them but... wtf	[22:53]
TomServo	justthe.tips	[22:53]
kakobrekla	its the famous domain	[22:53]
mircea_popescu	anal.plumbing would be a much better domain	[22:53]
kakobrekla	that got sold and resold etc	[22:53]
mircea_popescu	and stolen and drama.	[22:54]
kakobrekla	you catch my drift.	[22:54]
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ThickAsThieves	snakesarefor.plumbing	[22:54]
mircea_popescu	personally i doubt a new tld is worth the money, but hey.	[22:54]
mircea_popescu	maybe you manage to sell 100k domains for .01 each or so	[22:55]
ThickAsThieves	yeah once you can have all of them, they are all worthless	[22:55]
ThickAsThieves	well, not worthless	[22:55]
ThickAsThieves	but yknow	[22:55]
Venat	bit4x, such money. much earn, believe its bitcoin. many currency, so fair. wow	[22:55]
mircea_popescu	Venat turn the english on	[22:55]
ThickAsThieves	lol	[22:55]
ThickAsThieves	he's Google	[22:55]
mircea_popescu	pankkake “I’m thinking of selling	[22:55]
ThickAsThieves	tryibng to communicat ewith us	[22:55]
mircea_popescu	pankkake “I’m thinking of selling 10,000 ActM shares for 0.0019 and buying LC @ 0.0007 for 27,142 shares.”	[22:55]
mircea_popescu	disregard the quotes. he really means it.	[22:56]
ThickAsThieves	scambitrage	[22:56]
mircea_popescu	scam-bit-rage.	[22:56]
ThickAsThieves	ltc won't stop	[22:57]
ThickAsThieves	.0327	[22:57]
ThickAsThieves	$31	[22:58]
ThickAsThieves	you can go on a cheap date for 1 LTC	[22:58]
lyspooner	i can't go on a cheap date for 1 BTC	[22:59]
kakobrekla	happy meal at mcdonalds?	[22:59]
mircea_popescu	ltc has no central bank. it shall suffar the fate of free markets. boom an' boost.	[22:59]
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ThickAsThieves	maybe the cinema?	[22:59]
mircea_popescu	lyspooner you must be doing something wrong then	[22:59]
ThickAsThieves	or a bj?	[22:59]
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mircea_popescu	;;tslb	[23:22]
gribble	Time since last block: 8 minutes and 13 seconds	[23:22]
mircea_popescu	like 7 blocks past half hour	[23:23]
mircea_popescu	.d	[23:23]
ozbot	609482679.88835 \| Next Diff in 334 blocks \| Estimated Change: 13.1735% in 2d 0h 9m 2s	[23:23]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 20 @ 0.031 = 0.62 BTC [-] {2}	[23:24]
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Venat	wow, such difficulty	[23:28]
dub	used to be about US$100k for 1ld iirc	[23:28]
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dub	needs vetted by some cadre of policy wonks tho	[23:29]
dub	no .nig for you mp	[23:29]
kakobrekla	lol	[23:30]
mircea_popescu	i'll probably buy a tesla before i buy domains. seems beyond retarded to me	[23:30]
dub	.nggr	[23:30]
mircea_popescu	(recall, i'm the guy that ran bitcoin's premier stock exchange as a subdir for years)	[23:30]
dub	whitehouse.nggr	[23:30]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HMF] 11 @ 0.0236 = 0.2596 BTC [-]	[23:30]
mircea_popescu	sex.colored-person	[23:30]
dub	mpex.bbw	[23:31]
mircea_popescu	dub.dub	[23:31]
mircea_popescu	that's aesthetically appealing	[23:31]
mircea_popescu	you should get it and make yourself a biz card reading	[23:31]
mircea_popescu	dub.dub	[23:31]
dub	rollin.on.dub	[23:31]
pankkake	the u's aren't symetrical, it bothers me	[23:32]
kakobrekla	22:30.55 ( mircea_popescu ) sex.colored-person	[23:32]
kakobrekla	ilold	[23:32]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.37521 BTC [+]	[23:33]
pankkake	the weirdest tld is .xxx. it's like having a .internet	[23:34]
dub	yeah	[23:34]
dub	.tube would probably be a winner	[23:34]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.37521001 BTC [+]	[23:35]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.37521 BTC [-]	[23:36]
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assbot	[MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2506 @ 0.00084082 = 2.1071 BTC [-]	[23:46]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [CBTC] 2000 @ 0.00009504 = 0.1901 BTC [+] {8}	[23:48]
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assbot	[HAVELOCK] [HIF] 1000 @ 0.0003 = 0.3 BTC [-]	[23:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 4 @ 0.21 = 0.84 BTC [+]	[23:52]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 33 @ 0.14858958 = 4.9035 BTC [-] {9}	[23:53]
thestringpuller	http://i.imgur.com/4Iu2xfa.gif	[23:56]
ThickAsThieves	another problem with telling people socially you dabble in bitcoin, seeing them all again on Thanksgiving	[23:56]
jborkl	I don't tell anyone at all	[23:57]
assbot	[HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 0.1 = 0.2 BTC [-]	[23:57]
jborkl	except yous guys	[23:57]
ThickAsThieves	so if they know you dabbled when i was $100	[23:57]
ThickAsThieves	they of course will ask "Are you rich?"	[23:58]
ThickAsThieves	it's $1000 now!	[23:58]
mike_c	tell them you lost on jd	[23:58]
mike_c	!jd	[23:58]
assbot	Just-Dice stat: 8557 BTC profit, 50.8k BTC invested, 298.84 mio bets, 4.54 mio BTC wagered	[23:58]
ThickAsThieves	tell family you gambled away bitcoin riches?	[23:58]
pankkake	sadly ×10 of not much is not much	[23:58]
mike_c	they will stop seeing you as a resource.	[23:58]
ThickAsThieves	hmm	[23:59]
ThickAsThieves	cant tell the father in law such tho	[23:59]
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mike_c	ah. touche.	[23:59]

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