Forum logs for 27 Nov 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3450 @ 0.00052548 = 1.8129 BTC [-] [00:00]
mircea_popescu i knew about it [00:03]
mircea_popescu they'll just have to change their codes. [00:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 259 @ 0.00053133 = 0.1376 BTC [+] [00:04]
mircea_popescu nowait. [00:04]
mircea_popescu this is new [00:04]
mircea_popescu wtf ? buttcoins made it to ietf ?! [00:04]
dub anyone can write a draft [00:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20700 @ 0.00053266 = 11.0261 BTC [+] [00:08]
pigeons yeah someone from microsoft submitted it [00:08]
mircea_popescu pretty cool in any event [00:08]
dub surprised AAPL hasnt filed patent for 'coins made out of bits' [00:08]
mircea_popescu it's squarely in the bikeshed territory, the xbtc reference [00:09]
mircea_popescu so pretty unlikely to be touched [00:09]
mircea_popescu dub im sure it has. [00:09]
kakobrekla http://shrani.si/f/13/eL/3A2bL8mS/better.png [00:14]
kakobrekla i know i know, just trollin [00:14]
smickles lol [00:18]
pigeons they need the cherry truck award [00:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00053416 = 5.7155 BTC [+] [00:21]
Diablo-D3 meh [00:21]
jurov nah, it was some noncompliant browser [00:21]
Diablo-D3 whens the reward halving? [00:21]
dub nao [00:22]
jurov ;;halfreward [00:22]
gribble Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 20:12:08 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 1 day, 21 hours, 50 minutes, and 0 seconds. [00:22]
Diablo-D3 oh hay [00:22]
Diablo-D3 its moved back [00:22]
pigeons ;;asicshipped [00:22]
gribble Error: "asicshipped" is not a valid command. [00:22]
Diablo-D3 lawls [00:22]
Diablo-D3 also [00:22]
kakobrekla browser is ok, site is not valid [00:22]
jurov i know i know, just trollin [00:22]
kakobrekla ;) [00:23]
Diablo-D3 I wonder if Ill get a block before then [00:23]
* Ukto blocks Diablo-D3 [00:24]
Diablo-D3 lawls [00:24]
Diablo-D3 Ukto: Im asyc, bitch! [00:24]
* Diablo-D3 inserts an n in there. [00:24]
Diablo-D3 douchebag keyboard, dropping letters [00:25]
Ukto hah, See: user error [00:25]
Ukto :P [00:25]
Diablo-D3 no seriously [00:25]
Diablo-D3 sometimes I have to replug it because it wont repeat and half the keyboard is dead [00:26]
Diablo-D3 the microcontroller is nuts [00:26]
mod6 ;;ticker [00:27]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.30408, Best ask: 12.31269, Bid-ask spread: 0.00861, Last trade: 12.10701, 24 hour volume: 34526.91363606, 24 hour low: 11.89000, 24 hour high: 12.65150, 24 hour vwap: 12.37671 [00:27]
dub wewt [00:28]
Diablo-D3 yeah thats not so bad [00:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23400 @ 0.00053416 = 12.4993 BTC [+] [00:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 200 @ 0.00053434 = 0.1069 BTC [+] [00:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053288 = 1.2496 BTC [-] [00:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1491 @ 0.00053266 = 0.7942 BTC [-] [00:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 350 @ 0.00052548 = 0.1839 BTC [-] [00:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6376 @ 0.00052508 = 3.3479 BTC [-] [00:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00052502 = 4.1214 BTC [-] [00:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3492 @ 0.00052358 = 1.8283 BTC [-] [00:32]
mircea_popescu i wonder if blockblocking will follow cockblocking in the vernacular. [00:34]
dub wat is blockblocking [00:35]
Diablo-D3 "mining" [00:35]
mircea_popescu when someone impedes someone else from solving a block theyweren't going to solve anyway. [00:35]
jurov how would that be done, like, technically? [00:36]
mircea_popescu it's not technically, it's imaginatively. [00:37]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: "are you going to eat that pussy? I mean, its just sitting there on the plate, you've barely touched it" [00:37]
mircea_popescu lol [00:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052374 = 1.2282 BTC [+] [00:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7602 @ 0.00052358 = 3.9803 BTC [-] [00:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2649 @ 0.00052019 = 1.378 BTC [-] [00:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4404 @ 0.00052018 = 2.2909 BTC [-] [00:41]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13946 @ 0.00052018 = 7.2544 BTC [-] [00:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4204 @ 0.0005198 = 2.1852 BTC [-] [00:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053421 = 1.2527 BTC [+] [00:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15750 @ 0.00053434 = 8.4159 BTC [+] [00:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 555 @ 0.00053458 = 0.2967 BTC [+] [00:49]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053036 = 1.2437 BTC [-] [00:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5813 @ 0.0005302 = 3.0821 BTC [-] [00:56]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13200 @ 0.00051989 = 6.8625 BTC [-] [00:58]
smickles ;;rewardhalf [01:02]
gribble Error: "rewardhalf" is not a valid command. [01:02]
smickles ;;halfreward [01:02]
gribble Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 19:52:54 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 1 day, 20 hours, 50 minutes, and 0 seconds. [01:02]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25346 @ 0.0005198 = 13.1749 BTC [-] [01:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10254 @ 0.00051955 = 5.3275 BTC [-] [01:06]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11642 @ 0.00051989 = 6.0526 BTC [+] [01:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15608 @ 0.00052699 = 8.2253 BTC [+] [01:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00051979 = 10.0319 BTC [-] [01:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00051955 = 3.5329 BTC [-] [01:17]
* dub kicks linode [01:17]
mircea_popescu hallo. we has hack today for you [01:18]
Ukto another linode hack ? 0,o [01:18]
dub no just shit connectivity [01:19]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-frugally-adviseful/ [01:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5821 @ 0.00051955 = 3.0243 BTC [-] [01:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14370 @ 0.00051955 = 7.4659 BTC [-] [01:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11000 @ 0.00051953 = 5.7148 BTC [-] [01:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.00051912 = 3.6858 BTC [-] [01:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17800 @ 0.00051888 = 9.2361 BTC [-] [01:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8350 @ 0.00051873 = 4.3314 BTC [-] [01:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7798 @ 0.00051861 = 4.0441 BTC [-] [01:23]
dub the fuck is nasal? [01:25]
mircea_popescu weird huh [01:26]
mircea_popescu a brand of aged cheese [01:26]
mircea_popescu quite good actually. [01:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13400 @ 0.00051861 = 6.9494 BTC [-] [01:26]
dub figured [01:26]
dub google translate failed me [01:26]
mircea_popescu you figured it's cheese ? [01:26]
smickles updated to about 1.4% http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin/bitcoin-finance/a-good-month-for-s-dice-shareholders-in-the-making/#update_26nov12 [01:27]
mircea_popescu it sure swings dunnit. [01:27]
dub mircea_popescu: yea [01:30]
dub smelly cheese was first guess [01:30]
mircea_popescu wd. [01:30]
mircea_popescu tho it's named for a place [01:30]
mircea_popescu like champagne or cognac. [01:31]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3902 @ 0.00051861 = 2.0236 BTC [-] [01:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2991 @ 0.00051854 = 1.551 BTC [-] [01:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11807 @ 0.00051847 = 6.1216 BTC [-] [01:36]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [01:38]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.19998, Best ask: 12.19999, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 12.19999, 24 hour volume: 35150.08809202, 24 hour low: 11.89000, 24 hour high: 12.65150, 24 hour vwap: 12.36118 [01:38]
mircea_popescu o hey. back under 12 ? [01:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2443 @ 0.00051847 = 1.2666 BTC [-] [01:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10600 @ 0.0005182 = 5.4929 BTC [-] [01:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31150 @ 0.00051812 = 16.1394 BTC [-] [01:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12850 @ 0.00051807 = 6.6572 BTC [-] [01:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8607 @ 0.00051788 = 4.4574 BTC [-] [01:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7870 @ 0.0005224 = 4.1113 BTC [+] [01:45]
smickles so the interestingness begins [01:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00053058 = 4.2977 BTC [+] [01:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00053131 = 13.2828 BTC [+] [01:55]
Doffx Someone sold around 10000 [01:57]
Doffx 10500 around [01:58]
Doffx I need 10500 bitcoins to sell, you would most likely not see me online again. [01:58]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00053131 = 2.2315 BTC [+] [02:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5582 @ 0.00053058 = 2.9617 BTC [-] [02:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16668 @ 0.00053049 = 8.8422 BTC [-] [02:03]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3032 @ 0.00053049 = 1.6084 BTC [-] [02:04]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13500 @ 0.00052686 = 7.1126 BTC [-] [02:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14900 @ 0.00052527 = 7.8265 BTC [-] [02:07]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C060T] 1000 @ 0.51492215 = 514.9222 BTC [-] [02:08]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00336849 = 0.6737 BTC [-] [02:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2150 @ 0.00339999 = 7.31 BTC [+] [02:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3248 @ 0.00052527 = 1.7061 BTC [-] [02:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 702 @ 0.00052461 = 0.3683 BTC [-] [02:24]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C060T] 1000 @ 0.51492215 = 514.9222 BTC [-] [02:27]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2798 @ 0.00052461 = 1.4679 BTC [-] [02:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20600 @ 0.00052037 = 10.7196 BTC [-] [02:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4593 @ 0.00051788 = 2.3786 BTC [-] [02:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10337 @ 0.00051787 = 5.3532 BTC [-] [02:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13837 @ 0.00051778 = 7.1645 BTC [-] [02:35]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C060T] 1000 @ 0.51492215 = 514.9222 BTC [-] [02:40]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5302 @ 0.00051811 = 2.747 BTC [+] [02:46]
kakobrekla https://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/12/11/19/AsbI5XyjNUS-_liBKjWLUw2.jpg [02:47]
smickles oh gawd, chzbgr? [02:47]
kakobrekla dunno [02:47]
kakobrekla i just repasted. [02:47]
smickles heh, good link tho, very entertaining [02:48]
kakobrekla seems kinda appropriate for the chan. [02:48]
kakobrekla but props [02:49]
kakobrekla i dont know any of their letters [02:49]
smickles naw, you'd be cool, considring it's a numbers quiz [02:50]
dub not enough tentacle rape [02:50]
smickles hmm, [02:51]
* smickles tries the quiz [02:51]
smickles i can only count to 3 :o [02:51]
smickles it starts at 4 :( [02:51]
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dub chi [02:57]
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mircea_popescu ajajaj [03:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3048 @ 0.00052322 = 1.5948 BTC [+] [03:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7313 @ 0.00051778 = 3.7865 BTC [-] [03:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26639 @ 0.00051777 = 13.7929 BTC [-] [03:05]
mircea_popescu gnite all. [03:07]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [07:18]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051829 = 1.2154 BTC [+] [07:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15358 @ 0.00051855 = 7.9639 BTC [+] [07:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21000 @ 0.00051855 = 10.8896 BTC [+] [07:29]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16600 @ 0.00051855 = 8.6079 BTC [+] [07:31]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051592 = 1.2098 BTC [-] [07:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25102 @ 0.00051586 = 12.9491 BTC [-] [07:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051835 = 1.2155 BTC [+] [07:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10392 @ 0.00051855 = 5.3888 BTC [+] [07:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3063 @ 0.00052181 = 1.5983 BTC [+] [07:41]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051591 = 1.2098 BTC [-] [07:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4598 @ 0.00051586 = 2.3719 BTC [-] [07:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3683 @ 0.00051404 = 1.8932 BTC [-] [07:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7474 @ 0.00051394 = 3.8412 BTC [-] [07:49]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C070T] 1000 @ 0.42938889 = 429.3889 BTC [-] [07:52]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C080T] 1000 @ 0.34744445 = 347.4445 BTC [-] [07:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6026 @ 0.00051394 = 3.097 BTC [-] [07:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1774 @ 0.00051386 = 0.9116 BTC [-] [07:57]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.00339856 = 0.6797 BTC [-] [08:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1400 @ 0.00334557 = 4.6838 BTC [-] [08:12]
mircea_popescu http://www.intrade.com/news/id/782 soooo intrade is shuttering. [08:14]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051832 = 1.2155 BTC [+] [08:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6200 @ 0.00051851 = 3.2148 BTC [+] [08:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 374 @ 0.00052054 = 0.1947 BTC [+] [08:15]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3976 @ 0.00052054 = 2.0697 BTC [+] [08:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4249 @ 0.00052181 = 2.2172 BTC [+] [08:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15629 @ 0.0005199 = 8.1255 BTC [-] [08:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11521 @ 0.00051386 = 5.9202 BTC [-] [08:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051408 = 1.2055 BTC [+] [08:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9454 @ 0.00051386 = 4.858 BTC [-] [08:23]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5251 @ 0.00051386 = 2.6983 BTC [-] [08:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3949 @ 0.00051379 = 2.029 BTC [-] [08:28]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005215 = 1.2229 BTC [+] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3059 @ 0.00052181 = 1.5962 BTC [+] [08:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1174 @ 0.00052181 = 0.6126 BTC [+] [08:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00052203 = 8.7701 BTC [+] [08:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10726 @ 0.00052351 = 5.6152 BTC [+] [08:55]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13550 @ 0.00052351 = 7.0936 BTC [+] [08:56]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11950 @ 0.00052126 = 6.2291 BTC [-] [09:08]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1005 @ 0.00334557 = 3.3623 BTC [-] [09:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051983 = 1.219 BTC [-] [09:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10055 @ 0.00051948 = 5.2234 BTC [-] [09:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1745 @ 0.00051948 = 0.9065 BTC [-] [09:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21055 @ 0.00051379 = 10.8178 BTC [-] [09:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052114 = 1.2221 BTC [+] [09:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4605 @ 0.00052126 = 2.4004 BTC [+] [09:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5272 @ 0.00052126 = 2.7481 BTC [+] [09:36]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1350 @ 0.00334522 = 4.516 BTC [-] [09:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051387 = 1.205 BTC [-] [09:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8246 @ 0.00051379 = 4.2367 BTC [-] [09:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8159 @ 0.00051355 = 4.1901 BTC [-] [09:39]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00051972 = 7.0942 BTC [+] [09:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2550 @ 0.00051429 = 1.3114 BTC [-] [09:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00051921 = 2.7778 BTC [+] [10:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052031 = 1.2201 BTC [+] [10:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17155 @ 0.00052045 = 8.9283 BTC [+] [10:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3188 @ 0.00052045 = 1.6592 BTC [+] [10:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051946 = 1.2181 BTC [-] [10:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6855 @ 0.00051921 = 3.5592 BTC [-] [10:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12245 @ 0.00051921 = 6.3577 BTC [-] [10:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8536 @ 0.00051355 = 4.3837 BTC [-] [10:32]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052014 = 1.2197 BTC [+] [10:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1057 @ 0.00052045 = 0.5501 BTC [+] [10:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3898 @ 0.00052126 = 2.0319 BTC [+] [10:37]
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Diablo-D3 ;;bc,rewardhalf [10:39]
gribble Error: "bc,rewardhalf" is not a valid command. [10:39]
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Diablo-D3 ;;halfreward [10:39]
gribble Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 19:39:45 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 1 day, 11 hours, and 0 seconds. [10:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051388 = 1.205 BTC [-] [10:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10188 @ 0.00051355 = 5.232 BTC [-] [10:42]
mircea_popescu dun dun dun [10:43]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00051355 = 2.8502 BTC [-] [10:48]
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EskimoBob dun? what is that? [10:48]
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dub http://dundundun.net/ [10:55]
mircea_popescu nowai [10:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4887 @ 0.00051355 = 2.5097 BTC [-] [11:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10998 @ 0.00051313 = 5.6434 BTC [-] [11:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13702 @ 0.00051313 = 7.0309 BTC [-] [11:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 360 @ 0.00051312 = 0.1847 BTC [-] [11:14]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00051312 = 2.5656 BTC [-] [11:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1445 @ 0.00334522 = 4.8338 BTC [-] [11:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 355 @ 0.00335332 = 1.1904 BTC [+] [11:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19490 @ 0.00051312 = 10.0007 BTC [-] [11:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7610 @ 0.00051284 = 3.9027 BTC [-] [11:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005167 = 1.2117 BTC [+] [11:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18655 @ 0.00051704 = 9.6454 BTC [+] [11:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00051313 = 0.821 BTC [-] [11:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8478 @ 0.00051284 = 4.3479 BTC [-] [11:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7222 @ 0.00051275 = 3.7031 BTC [-] [11:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051281 = 1.2025 BTC [+] [11:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13578 @ 0.00051275 = 6.9621 BTC [-] [11:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1227 @ 0.00051244 = 0.6288 BTC [-] [11:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051489 = 1.2074 BTC [+] [11:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7505 @ 0.00051507 = 3.8656 BTC [+] [11:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051251 = 1.2018 BTC [-] [12:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4355 @ 0.00051244 = 2.2317 BTC [-] [12:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1750 @ 0.00051244 = 0.8968 BTC [-] [12:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051477 = 1.2071 BTC [+] [12:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8355 @ 0.00051507 = 4.3034 BTC [+] [12:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051258 = 1.202 BTC [-] [12:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27754 @ 0.00051244 = 14.2223 BTC [-] [12:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11801 @ 0.0005124 = 6.0468 BTC [-] [12:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28899 @ 0.0005124 = 14.8078 BTC [-] [12:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5151 @ 0.00051226 = 2.6387 BTC [-] [12:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8512 @ 0.00051226 = 4.3604 BTC [-] [12:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3537 @ 0.00051226 = 1.8119 BTC [-] [12:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1863 @ 0.00051225 = 0.9543 BTC [-] [12:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1850 @ 0.00051491 = 0.9526 BTC [+] [12:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 495 @ 0.00051491 = 0.2549 BTC [+] [12:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11273 @ 0.00051507 = 5.8064 BTC [+] [12:34]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005126 = 1.202 BTC [-] [12:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16055 @ 0.00051225 = 8.2242 BTC [-] [12:38]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051481 = 1.2072 BTC [+] [12:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6358 @ 0.00051507 = 3.2748 BTC [+] [12:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8795 @ 0.00051704 = 4.5474 BTC [+] [12:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10202 @ 0.00051733 = 5.2778 BTC [+] [12:45]
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Chaang-Noi zup all [13:09]
Chaang-Noi ;;btchalf [13:09]
gribble Error: "btchalf" is not a valid command. [13:09]
Chaang-Noi ;;half [13:09]
gribble Error: "half" is not a valid command. [13:09]
Chaang-Noi damn it i fail at commands [13:09]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00051355 = 6.4707 BTC [-] [13:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12048 @ 0.00051733 = 6.2328 BTC [+] [13:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28452 @ 0.00051736 = 14.7199 BTC [+] [13:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17490 @ 0.00051736 = 9.0486 BTC [+] [13:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1310 @ 0.00051823 = 0.6789 BTC [+] [13:16]
Chaang-Noi !halfreward [13:17]
Chaang-Noi ;;halfreward [13:17]
gribble Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 18:37:28 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 1 day, 7 hours, 20 minutes, and 0 seconds. [13:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051282 = 1.2026 BTC [-] [13:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00051259 = 5.4847 BTC [-] [13:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3184 @ 0.00051225 = 1.631 BTC [-] [13:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3247 @ 0.00051208 = 1.6627 BTC [-] [13:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051793 = 1.2145 BTC [+] [13:21]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35857 @ 0.00051823 = 18.5822 BTC [+] [13:24]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00334119 = 1.0024 BTC [-] [13:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 183 @ 0.00051823 = 0.0948 BTC [+] [13:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9776 @ 0.00051846 = 5.0685 BTC [+] [13:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13341 @ 0.00051854 = 6.9178 BTC [+] [13:28]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051801 = 1.2147 BTC [-] [13:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1555 @ 0.00051795 = 0.8054 BTC [-] [13:32]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13950 @ 0.00051795 = 7.2254 BTC [-] [13:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20664 @ 0.0005175 = 10.6936 BTC [-] [13:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5486 @ 0.0005175 = 2.839 BTC [-] [13:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2264 @ 0.00051208 = 1.1593 BTC [-] [13:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24589 @ 0.00051208 = 12.5915 BTC [-] [13:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5911 @ 0.00051203 = 3.0266 BTC [-] [13:50]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2750 @ 0.00051203 = 1.4081 BTC [-] [14:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1150 @ 0.00051774 = 0.5954 BTC [+] [14:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051846 = 1.2158 BTC [+] [14:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4624 @ 0.00051854 = 2.3977 BTC [+] [14:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2032 @ 0.00051854 = 1.0537 BTC [+] [14:16]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8010 @ 0.00052043 = 4.1686 BTC [+] [14:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00052078 = 0.5208 BTC [+] [14:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6106 @ 0.00052079 = 3.1799 BTC [+] [14:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7294 @ 0.00052079 = 3.7986 BTC [+] [14:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8168 @ 0.00052091 = 4.2548 BTC [+] [14:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051977 = 1.2189 BTC [-] [14:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7274 @ 0.00051954 = 3.7791 BTC [-] [14:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1194 @ 0.00051954 = 0.6203 BTC [-] [14:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8706 @ 0.00051789 = 4.5088 BTC [-] [14:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052086 = 1.2214 BTC [+] [14:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.0005209 = 0.5209 BTC [+] [14:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4936 @ 0.00052091 = 2.5712 BTC [+] [14:48]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18446 @ 0.00052091 = 9.6087 BTC [+] [15:10]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15054 @ 0.00052126 = 7.847 BTC [+] [15:10]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5121 @ 0.00052126 = 2.6694 BTC [+] [15:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14300 @ 0.00052146 = 7.4569 BTC [+] [15:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16850 @ 0.00052229 = 8.8006 BTC [+] [15:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6573 @ 0.00052253 = 3.4346 BTC [+] [15:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2956 @ 0.00052336 = 1.5471 BTC [+] [15:14]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005204 = 1.2203 BTC [-] [15:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13900 @ 0.00052036 = 7.233 BTC [-] [15:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9622 @ 0.0005171 = 4.9755 BTC [-] [15:28]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052308 = 1.2266 BTC [+] [15:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10755 @ 0.00052336 = 5.6287 BTC [+] [15:34]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052321 = 1.2269 BTC [-] [15:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5505 @ 0.00052336 = 2.8811 BTC [+] [15:44]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051756 = 1.2137 BTC [-] [15:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22255 @ 0.00051738 = 11.5143 BTC [-] [15:56]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052309 = 1.2266 BTC [+] [16:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7819 @ 0.00052336 = 4.0922 BTC [+] [16:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7011 @ 0.00052351 = 3.6703 BTC [+] [16:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 925 @ 0.00052382 = 0.4845 BTC [+] [16:02]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00052382 = 5.4739 BTC [+] [16:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051749 = 1.2135 BTC [-] [16:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3845 @ 0.00051738 = 1.9893 BTC [-] [16:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11310 @ 0.0005171 = 5.8484 BTC [-] [16:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052355 = 1.2277 BTC [+] [16:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 825 @ 0.00052382 = 0.4322 BTC [+] [16:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4808 @ 0.00052414 = 2.5201 BTC [+] [16:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00052417 = 0.5242 BTC [+] [16:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18272 @ 0.00052418 = 9.5778 BTC [+] [16:15]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00334119 = 2.673 BTC [-] [16:39]
Chaang-Noi ;;halfreward [16:40]
gribble Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 18:40:13 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 1 day, 4 hours, and 0 seconds. [16:40]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051711 = 1.2126 BTC [-] [16:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6373 @ 0.0005171 = 3.2955 BTC [-] [16:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7135 @ 0.00051576 = 3.6799 BTC [-] [16:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5347 @ 0.0005122 = 2.7387 BTC [-] [16:43]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052392 = 1.2286 BTC [+] [16:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2931 @ 0.00052418 = 1.5364 BTC [+] [16:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15724 @ 0.00052421 = 8.2427 BTC [+] [16:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2269 @ 0.00052421 = 1.1894 BTC [+] [16:54]
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mircea_popescu hello Kumala [17:00]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [17:00]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.95000, Best ask: 11.99998, Bid-ask spread: 0.04998, Last trade: 11.99999, 24 hour volume: 43477.60197387, 24 hour low: 11.89000, 24 hour high: 12.55800, 24 hour vwap: 12.17801 [17:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 245 @ 0.00335332 = 0.8216 BTC [+] [17:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052284 = 1.2261 BTC [-] [17:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12737 @ 0.00052253 = 6.6555 BTC [-] [17:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052407 = 1.2289 BTC [+] [17:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1799 @ 0.00052421 = 0.9431 BTC [+] [17:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052266 = 1.2256 BTC [-] [17:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3144 @ 0.00052253 = 1.6428 BTC [-] [17:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8761 @ 0.00051642 = 4.5244 BTC [-] [17:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051669 = 1.2116 BTC [+] [17:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8464 @ 0.00051642 = 4.371 BTC [-] [17:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11300 @ 0.00051607 = 5.8316 BTC [-] [17:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 391 @ 0.00051602 = 0.2018 BTC [-] [17:21]
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mircea_popescu Lobbyist Michael Kiok, who lives with his dog Cassie, told the newspaper there were more than 100,000 zoophiles in Germany. [17:28]
mircea_popescu lmao this is hysterical [17:28]
mircea_popescu http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/world/germany-to-ban-sex-with-animals-report [17:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16334 @ 0.00051602 = 8.4287 BTC [-] [17:28]
mod6 page 404 [17:30]
mircea_popescu wtf i just read it [17:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8161 @ 0.00051602 = 4.2112 BTC [-] [17:31]
mod6 yeah, weird. just says: We could not find the page you requested. This is either because: bla bla bla [17:32]
mod6 the telegraph site comes up, but the article itself seems to be missing from their database or someweird shit [17:32]
mircea_popescu well it wasn't any big deal, just a write-up about some campaign trying to make animal fucking illegal again [17:34]
mircea_popescu http://www.foxbusiness.com/news/2012/11/26/cme-declares-force-majeure-at-manhattan-gold-depository/ [17:34]
mircea_popescu now this is juicy. [17:34]
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EskimoBob did the gold just float away? [17:35]
mircea_popescu lol [17:36]
mircea_popescu no, it was opperationally limitated. [17:36]
EskimoBob nothing juicy at all "CME said that individuals holding MTB warrants, or certificates for a specific lot of metal stored in the depository, may receive gold delivered from Brinks Co. (BCO) in New York. MTB is responsible for any additional costs incurred by customers receiving metal from Brinks, CME said" [17:36]
mircea_popescu i guess you don't know what "may" means. [17:38]
Ukto actually [17:38]
Ukto thats contextual [17:39]
Ukto in this case, they are using it as "can" [17:39]
Ukto wel [17:39]
Ukto either way [17:39]
mircea_popescu maybe they are, yes. [17:39]
EskimoBob mircea_popescu: read what Ukto writes ... [17:39]
Ukto they are saying that they will fullfill contracts.. be it from them, or it may come from brinks [17:39]
Ukto not that the contracts may be honored [17:40]
Ukto the way I read it at least [17:40]
Ukto it is vauge wording though [17:40]
mircea_popescu you don't really call fm if you intend to enforce the contract at no cost to the op. [17:41]
mod6 its the ole "sorry, can't deliver your gold on contract because of act of god..." excuse ;P [17:42]
Ukto mod6: lol [17:43]
mircea_popescu "sorry, can't deliver your gold on contract for gold we never actually had because of act of god... [17:43]
mircea_popescu fify. [17:43]
mod6 haha ty [17:43]
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smickles copumpkin: my question is, how come everyone in these sorts of questions haven't been paying taxes for years [17:56]
copumpkin fucking leeches! [17:56]
smickles s/haven't/hasn't/ [17:56]
copumpkin those welfare queens buying italian pizza ovens [17:56]
smickles lol [17:56]
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mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/voluntary-contracts-after-a-while/#comment-90702 <<< extended by 2 weeks! [18:06]
sgnb sgornick smickles Smoovious SomeoneWeird SuprTiggr [18:07]
mircea_popescu smickles what sorts of questions ? [18:07]
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copumpkin mircea_popescu: I linked to http://snapplr.com/gg28 last night [18:17]
mircea_popescu doing things behind my back eh ? [18:18]
mircea_popescu hm, i must be dense. why is the taxpayer liable for more tax if the tax was cut 0.0 [18:19]
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gigavps mircea_popescu fuzzy maffs [18:20]
mircea_popescu lol i c [18:20]
EskimoBob what is that? "voluntary-contracts-after-a-while/#comment-90702 <<< extended by 2 weeks!" [18:23]
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mircea_popescu there's a writing contest with something over 100btc in prize funds. [18:24]
mircea_popescu it was originally due to end yest. [18:24]
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smickles 16:24 < mircea_popescu> it was originally due to end yest. <<< sweet, an extension? The thing I'm writing got put off because I had to do other things, maybe now I can finish it :) [19:17]
mircea_popescu yeah. [19:18]
jurov i tried to subcontract the story, only one writer understood it, and finished it late and it still deals heavily with law enforcement [19:20]
jurov hope he'll improve it in the 2 weeks. [19:21]
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jurov should have tried to write something myself instead... maybe I'd surprise myself like dong that cherry truck [19:23]
jurov *the story deals with law enforcement, not the writer. lmao [19:24]
smickles "…as a point of fact if you couldn’t defend yourself in any criminal proceeding whatsoever right now, you’re already in prison." oooh, zing [19:30]
mircea_popescu lol subcontracted story. how much you pay him ? [19:31]
mircea_popescu http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE hey, i like the curve [19:32]
mircea_popescu looks like a hip. [19:32]
mircea_popescu smickles :D [19:34]
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jurov i paid $42 [19:37]
jurov for the story [19:37]
smickles jurov: before or after they didn't deliver on time? [19:39]
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jurov after... i already have a dispute with a scammer on that project, so i said, fuck that i dont need another one [19:40]
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smickles oh my [19:40]
jurov and in the middle suddenly vworker got sold to freelance, several days it was nearly unusable [19:40]
jurov so i can say there was executive meddling, too :D [19:41]
jurov still i don't get why freelancer.com is #1 . simple task like moving a deadline requires emailing to support both for employer and worker, wtf? [19:45]
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Namjies Ah, OTC has nothing to say about it. [20:04]
Namjies http://www.namworld.com/x-buttons.html [20:04]
Namjies How does that look? [20:04]
jcpham i like the blue buttons [20:05]
jcpham happy? [20:05]
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Namjies Eh, just wanted to know if they looked fine. Bootstrap inspired of course. [20:06]
EskimoBob pigeons: I shipped your stuff [20:07]
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Namjies But I made them less tall and more pronounced. [20:07]
EskimoBob lets hope this takes less than 30 days :) [20:07]
jcpham pigeons ordered drugs from you EskimoBob? [20:07]
EskimoBob snow [20:07]
EskimoBob lots of melting snow and polar bear shit [20:07]
jcpham neat [20:07]
EskimoBob with moss and stuff [20:07]
jcpham he usually just buys drugs from me [20:07]
EskimoBob OK, i guess he has made some changes to his menu [20:08]
EskimoBob jcpham: what are you selling? [20:08]
jcpham cocaine-infused air molecules [20:08]
jcpham pretty high-grade shit [20:08]
mircea_popescu jurov so 42 for a chance at 5 btc prize ? [20:09]
EskimoBob yummy jcpham [20:09]
jurov yes. i hoped for 1st prize, too [20:09]
mircea_popescu Namjies pretty good [20:09]
Diablo-D3 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128019.0 [20:13]
Diablo-D3 LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooo........... [20:13]
* Diablo-D3 runs out of the room, down the street, and across the united states, gets on a point to china, keeps running through asia and europe, gets on another boat, comes back to the US and runs back into his house [20:13]
Diablo-D3 ..............oooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLL [20:13]
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mircea_popescu so basically bfl just went bankrupt. [20:16]
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Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: EXTRA bankrupt [20:16]
Diablo-D3 this is the sound of several thousand investors shitting their pants in unison [20:16]
Diablo-D3 its sort of wet and cheaky. [20:16]
jcpham investors? [20:16]
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Diablo-D3 jcpham: they're not preorder customers. [20:17]
mircea_popescu jcpham they had a backer. [20:17]
mircea_popescu and obviously, all the people sending them free money. [20:17]
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Diablo-D3 bfl needs to stop referring to them in such an improper way [20:17]
jcpham maybe i didn't read the whole thread? [20:17]
mircea_popescu it's funny that not even a week ago inaba was intimating bfl is worth more than mpex [20:18]
mircea_popescu turns out it was worth more in the sense glbse was worth more : [20:18]
mircea_popescu worth more jailtime. [20:18]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: it's deferred tax [20:18]
mircea_popescu a ok then. [20:19]
copumpkin you don't pay more tax than you would otherwise, but due to the discrepancy between your accounts and the tax reports, you need to adjust your accounts to factor in the increased rate [20:19]
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copumpkin but the tax rate did go up, so you would pay more tax [20:19]
copumpkin it's just a huge pain in the ass to account for it [20:19]
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Diablo-D3 ;;rewardhalf [20:20]
gribble Error: "rewardhalf" is not a valid command. [20:20]
mircea_popescu copumpkin didn't the tax rate go down ? 41 to 31 ? [20:20]
Diablo-D3 ;;halfreward [20:20]
gribble Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 18:50:51 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 1 day, 0 hours, 30 minutes, and 0 seconds. [20:20]
copumpkin oh, maybe it did [20:20]
mircea_popescu ;;half [20:20]
gribble Error: "half" is not a valid command. [20:20]
copumpkin I haven't looked at the question since earlier [20:20]
Diablo-D3 I have 24 hours to produce a block :< [20:21]
mircea_popescu lolk. well... [20:21]
jcpham can we have an irc party [20:21]
jcpham when it halves [20:21]
copumpkin oh yeah, it did go down [20:21]
copumpkin anyway, whatever it is, you need to account for it :) [20:21]
copumpkin it's stupid [20:21]
jurov Diablo-D3 maybe we can organize prayer marathon for you [20:22]
jcpham copumpkin we're having a;;halfreward party at cathy's house: http://youtu.be/NUnwFHplBg4 [20:22]
mircea_popescu copumpkin well, only need to account for it if you hadn't filed the taxes for the prev years, but anyway! my q was strictly cause it went down [20:23]
copumpkin no, it isn't about not filing them [20:23]
copumpkin it's about actual discrepancies in procedures [20:23]
copumpkin it's really annoying [20:23]
copumpkin so you often need to depreciate things differently on your taxes and on your accounts [20:23]
copumpkin or account for warranty expenses differently [20:24]
copumpkin like if you have an asset, accounting standards have different ways you can depreciate it over time, but the taxes probably want a particular way called double-declining balance [20:24]
copumpkin which means that it looks like you lost more money to depreciation on your taxes than you did on your accounts [20:24]
copumpkin which means you paid less in taxes (Because they think you lost money to depreciation) today but your accounts don't show that depreciation because you used a different method on them [20:25]
mircea_popescu i don't like using any diff method than the tax method. [20:25]
mircea_popescu consequently i don't. [20:25]
copumpkin so you file a deferred tax liability saying "um, the tax man thinks we lost way more money than we did this year and charged us less taxes, but we haven't lost it yet" [20:25]
copumpkin that's the thing though, the IFRS has requirements for the depreciation method [20:25]
copumpkin and US GAAP has other ones [20:25]
copumpkin and they don't all mesh with the tax method [20:26]
copumpkin sometimes they might ,depending on what kind of asset it is [20:26]
copumpkin also, warranty expenses are fucked as well for different reasons [20:26]
mircea_popescu but as long as you do everything the tax way you don't have a problem. [20:26]
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copumpkin no, you do, because then you aren't meeting the US GAAP/IFRS standards [20:27]
copumpkin which means that auditors or the SEC might bitch [20:28]
thestringpuller ;;halfreward [20:28]
gribble Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 18:48:06 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 1 day, 0 hours, 20 minutes, and 0 seconds. [20:28]
copumpkin if you're public or something [20:28]
copumpkin maybe it works better in romania [20:28]
copumpkin maybe smickles can provide a justification for the whole thing, but the best I can come up with is that a company's accounts serve a different purpose than its tax returns [20:29]
copumpkin mostly it just feels stupid though :P [20:29]
copumpkin but regardless, I need to know it, so I learn it [20:30]
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mircea_popescu copumpkin they may bitch, but you can't really get into trouble by sticking with the tax version. [20:30]
mircea_popescu people in general don't do it because they'd like to present better numbers. [20:30]
* copumpkin hangs head sullenly [20:31]
mircea_popescu at least that's my (limited) understanding [20:31]
mircea_popescu ianaa [20:31]
copumpkin well, the discrepances can both favor you or work against you [20:31]
copumpkin that's why you can have deferred tax liabilities or assets [20:31]
copumpkin Like many other common law countries, the United States government does not directly set accounting standards by statute. However, the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) requires that US GAAP be followed in financial reporting by publicly traded companies [20:32]
copumpkin so if you're public, you can't just do what the taxes do [20:32]
mircea_popescu a well, then that's the issue. [20:32]
copumpkin oh well [20:33]
copumpkin at least I'm not an accountant [20:33]
* copumpkin glares at smickles [20:33]
mircea_popescu in truth, this deferred assets/liabilities game + the SPV game is pretty much 90% of why nobody knows what corps are reallty worth [20:34]
mircea_popescu takes people like buffett a month of combing to get a rough idea. [20:34]
copumpkin that's just cause he's an old fart and is dumb [20:34]
copumpkin duh [20:34]
thestringpuller that's too generalized [20:34]
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mircea_popescu "people like wb" = value investors. [20:35]
copumpkin :P [20:35]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: just follow the fibonacci numbers on the price graph and you'll make way more money anyway [20:36]
mircea_popescu heh [20:36]
copumpkin let the elliott wave guide you!! [20:36]
mircea_popescu i actually am one of the value types. [20:36]
mircea_popescu never put much stock in ta [20:36]
copumpkin yeah, I'm just mocking TA :) [20:36]
thestringpuller S.DICE is over valued [20:37]
mircea_popescu so is most everyone's mom. [20:37]
thestringpuller my mom rules [20:37]
thestringpuller she can beat up your mom [20:37]
copumpkin lol [20:38]
mircea_popescu how much for the pair ? [20:38]
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smickles 18:29 < copumpkin> maybe smickles can provide a justification for the whole thing, but the best I can come up with is that a company's accounts serve a different purpose than its tax returns <<< this is true, taxes are not handled the same way as responsible accounting [20:46]
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smickles 18:30 < mircea_popescu> copumpkin they may bitch, but you can't really get into trouble by sticking with the tax version<<< the thing is, sticking to the tax version doesn't accurately represent the status of the company [20:49]
mircea_popescu well... a representation is a representation smickles. [20:49]
mircea_popescu all representations depend on presupositions to decode. [20:49]
smickles heh, trying to move this to an ontological discussion? [20:51]
copumpkin I prefer oncological discussion [20:51]
copumpkin or odontological [20:51]
mircea_popescu odometerological [20:51]
copumpkin that too [20:52]
mircea_popescu i really don't follow how anyone'd be foolish enough to sign two different accounting reports. [20:53]
mircea_popescu you sign the tax one as being correct [20:53]
mircea_popescu you then proceed to sign a different one, someone shows they contradict themselves and whoopla, you've perjured yourself. [20:53]
mircea_popescu as long as you're required to sign off on the tax one, it's the one. anyone doesn't like it can stand on his head. [20:53]
smickles but you sign the tax one saying that its correct in consideration of the way tax law says it has to be done [20:54]
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mircea_popescu i don't think you get signing statements [20:54]
mircea_popescu you're not the president. [20:54]
smickles you sign the real one saying it's correct to to the standards [20:54]
mircea_popescu "correct to the best of your knowledge" is the usual formula. [20:54]
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smickles and, iirc, the 'tax one' is not usually a report, it's the filed tax forms [20:55]
mircea_popescu but anyway. i guess such issues are why i;m neither an accountant nor would contemplate becoming one [20:55]
smickles and why I see money in understanding them [20:56]
smickles ;D [20:56]
copumpkin my 6 btc offer still stands [20:56]
copumpkin :P [20:56]
mircea_popescu 6 btc for what ? [20:57]
smickles copumpkin: in order to consider that offer seriously, i'd have to know how far down i'd have to bring it [20:57]
copumpkin 15%! [20:57]
copumpkin :P [20:57]
smickles it might also be possible for next year's taxes, but not this years, as it could involve operating an off-shore company for the full year [20:58]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: I'm offering him 6 btc to take my effective tax rate to 15% [20:58]
copumpkin any more than that and it isn't worth it ;) [20:58]
mircea_popescu iirc i paid 2.x% in 2011. [20:58]
copumpkin that's not a bad rate [20:58]
copumpkin I'll take it [20:58]
mircea_popescu cost me a little more than 6 btc. [20:59]
copumpkin smickles: 7 btc to get me to 2% [20:59]
mircea_popescu i think it was something like 30. [20:59]
copumpkin damn! [21:00]
copumpkin I can't afford that [21:00]
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mircea_popescu scam moar. [21:00]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: I have an offer for you. You lend me 100k btc, I pay you back 200k next week [21:01]
copumpkin deal? [21:01]
copumpkin perhaps I should've waited a little longer [21:01]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: disregard that, I'll ask again in a bit [21:01]
mircea_popescu i only take 7% a week. [21:01]
copumpkin oh even cheaper for me [21:03]
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copumpkin okay, I pay you back 107k [21:03]
copumpkin I mean, I'll ask that in a bit [21:03]
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smickles copumpkin: are we talking, lowering it 18000 or lowering it more than that? [21:09]
copumpkin hmm, haven't actually calculated [21:09]
copumpkin well, you can calculate based on my 7 btc limit! [21:10]
copumpkin >_> [21:10]
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copumpkin smickles: it's sort of joking around though, because I doubt it's possible to lower much, since I don't work for myself or have a company and can't really deduct most of my expenses [21:11]
copumpkin which is where I think most of that sort of goodness comes from [21:11]
smickles if my assumptions are correct, as well as you not taking advantage of various things, it might actually be possible [21:11]
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smickles like, how much do you contribute to your retirement fund? [21:11]
copumpkin I have a pretty boring finanicial situation :) [21:12]
smickles well, if you don't have an IRA, we can knock of 5000 right there [21:12]
copumpkin yeah, I'm doing a backdoor roth IRA [21:12]
* copumpkin always takes the backdoor, if you know what I mean [21:12]
* copumpkin winks [21:12]
smickles heh [21:12]
smickles well, do you pay for childcare? [21:13]
copumpkin nah, I'm unmarried, don't own a house, don't have children [21:13]
smickles plastered your home in solar pannels yet? [21:13]
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smickles ok, [21:14]
smickles i've got it [21:14]
copumpkin anyway, I was planning on maxing out the 401k pretax contribution next year, and squeezing more than is supposed to be possible into the roth [21:14]
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smickles adopt a kid, in a certain way, start an education fund for it, and hire a nanny, that's about 20000 of lowering [21:15]
copumpkin but doesn't the nanny cost me money? [21:15]
copumpkin :P [21:15]
copumpkin can I get a virtual kid, like a tamatochi? [21:15]
smickles heh, you didn't ask to make it better overall, you asked to get into the 15% bracket [21:16]
copumpkin hah okay :P [21:16]
smickles also, the nanny might be paid for by EIC, [21:16]
smickles if we can find a cheap one [21:16]
copumpkin what if I knock up 20 different girls and claim 20 kids [21:17]
copumpkin but leave them to take care of them and don't pay childcare [21:17]
smickles they'd have to all be born this year :| [21:17]
copumpkin damn [21:17]
copumpkin I need to get busy [21:17]
copumpkin lots of premies coming [21:17]
copumpkin I think my best bet is to set up some sort of S-corp or something and then do "consulting" on the side that lets me deduct a bunch of things [21:18]
copumpkin would that make sense? [21:18]
smickles I think you could also 'lend' a lot of money to your family, not charge interest, but be required to count a certain minimum amount of interest as income even tho you didn't charge it [21:19]
copumpkin interesting [21:19]
smickles copumpkin: yup [21:19]
copumpkin all my family is abroad though [21:19]
copumpkin does that affect things? [21:19]
jcpham you guys are reminding me that i need an accountant [21:20]
copumpkin wait, why would counting additional income from non-existent interest be beneficial? [21:20]
jcpham a good one. [21:20]
copumpkin jcpham: smickles! [21:20]
smickles copumpkin: in this case, the corp should have all losses [21:20]
smickles more expenses than income [21:20]
copumpkin oh, I'd count it as being due but not getting collected [21:20]
copumpkin and thus a loss? [21:20]
jcpham smickles is definitely my number one choice for ninja accountant [21:20]
smickles well, your investment in the corp would lower your income, and the corp wouldn't pay taxes because only profit is taxed [21:21]
copumpkin unfortunately, sending a bunch of money overseas to my parents will probably get me on a TSA watchlist for "funding terror" or something like that [21:21]
smickles expenses are deducted [21:21]
copumpkin my parents are terrifying [21:22]
smickles and if we can't help but profit on this corp, we keep the money in the corp, and have it setup in ireland or somewhere good for taxes [21:22]
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smickles plus, we must not forget, you can deduct the cost of tax prep from last year [21:23]
copumpkin hmm, that's an interesting idea [21:23]
copumpkin I didn't spend much money on that :P [21:23]
smickles bbl ;) [21:23]
copumpkin ciao :) thanks [21:23]
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jurov copumpkin, learn them how to exchange bitcoins :P [21:31]
dub I made the jesus mint sauce [21:31]
dub moar like mint beurre blanc but sweet [21:32]
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mircea_popescu ;;halfreward [21:36]
gribble Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 19:06:53 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 23 hours, 30 minutes, and 0 seconds. [21:36]
mircea_popescu dun dun dun [21:36]
dub .net [21:37]
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copumpkin smickles: what made you decide you wanted to go into accounting? [21:42]
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mircea_popescu he already had a hot gf [21:46]
kakobrekla hi [21:46]
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mircea_popescu heya [21:56]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128019.msg1361457#msg1361457 [22:12]
mircea_popescu lol people like mpoe-pr nao ?! [22:12]
jurov only her boobies [22:17]
mircea_popescu as opposed to all the other girls people like not for their boobies [22:18]
mircea_popescu but for the person they are deep inside. [22:18]
mod6 haha [22:21]
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Namjies and buttons deployed [22:37]
Namjies http://www.namworld.net/ [22:37]
smickles 19:42 < copumpkin> smickles: what made you decide you wanted to go into accounting? <<< well, I actually like doing the work which is involved in most aspects of accounting. Also, once if figured out that it's actually a valuable service,... well, it seems like an honorable profession to me [22:37]
Namjies That should do it. [22:37]
smickles s/if/I/ [22:38]
Namjies With valid HTML5 and CSS3 [22:38]
Namjies smickles: it is. Valuable services. [22:38]
Namjies Taxes and income reporting keeps getting more complex. [22:39]
copumpkin smickles: cool, seems like a good reason :) [22:39]
Namjies Also just keeping records can be burdensome for large enterprises. [22:40]
smickles Namjies: once they process my llc paperwork, i'll need a good webpage where people can order my services, it looks like you might be one of the peeps i ask for a bid on that from [22:40]
mircea_popescu Namjies not bad but the logo sucks [22:40]
Namjies ... what do you want as a logo? [22:41]
smickles woah, i just realized it's not "nameworld" [22:41]
jcpham i vote dildo [22:41]
kakobrekla i agree [22:41]
jcpham smh [22:41]
Namjies I'll keep it how it is... [22:41]
Namjies smickles, indeed. [22:42]
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mircea_popescu i don't mean the text, i mean the gfx [22:43]
mircea_popescu it looks really out of place with the bootstrap style [22:44]
Namjies Hmm... odd. I see many websites with a logo similarly placed. I always liked it like that. [22:45]
mircea_popescu not the placement either. [22:45]
Namjies Ah. What makes it look out of place? [22:46]
Diablo-D3 Im guessing mp has not seen my boobies comment yet [22:46]
mircea_popescu Namjies i'm not an expert in design so i can't really cogently explain. it's a matter of style. [22:47]
mircea_popescu maybe get a 2nd opinion from someone who knows shit. [22:48]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 heh she's shown me. [22:48]
Namjies Eh, I just hoped you could explain what in the graphic bothered you when placed there. Like the contrast with the black background. Or anything like that. [22:49]
* Diablo-D3 salutes as a member of the 301st [22:50]
mircea_popescu probably the sharp edges of the letters, their straightness, the spacing between M and W [22:50]
mircea_popescu stuff like that [22:50]
Diablo-D3 OH DEAR GOD [22:50]
Diablo-D3 THE KERNING [22:50]
JWU_42 i can't recall the format to get bitcoind to show more than 10 transactions [22:50]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 tho tbh... http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135394065043.jpg [22:50]
JWU_42 anyone have an idea [22:50]
Diablo-D3 NAMJIES, SHTAPH [22:50]
Diablo-D3 JWU42: "*" 42 [22:51]
JWU_42 ahh [22:51]
JWU_42 forgot the " " [22:51]
JWU_42 dangit [22:51]
JWU_42 thks Diablo-D3 [22:51]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: BOOBIES [22:51]
smickles ah copumpkin I just thought of something [22:52]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/135250520562.jpg ? [22:52]
copumpkin smickles: oh shit [22:52]
copumpkin write it down! [22:52]
Namjies Ah, I see. [22:52]
smickles I'm not positive on it, but ... you're a hireling, right? [22:52]
smickles like you have a boss, [22:52]
copumpkin yeah [22:52]
copumpkin well, I'm "between jobs" right now [22:52]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: BOOBIES! [22:52]
copumpkin but I will have a boss :P [22:53]
mircea_popescu and it will be a girl, and she'll be really hot, and he'll be really bothered. [22:53]
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copumpkin lol no [22:53]
copumpkin it's an indian dude [22:53]
smickles you are an employee of a company [22:54]
smickles if you form an llc, and get your employer to hire the llc instead of you, and your llc pays you a low salary, but high dividends, you'd be taxed at 15% [22:54]
FabianB mircea_popescu: y is -pr not in irc? [22:54]
copumpkin smickles: cute [22:54]
smickles woa, lag [22:54]
mircea_popescu FabianB what'd she do here ? [22:54]
Namjies Because mircea manage the IRC? [22:54]
copumpkin smickles: I'm not sure I can pull that off, but it'd be amusing if I could [22:54]
copumpkin smickles: but dividend rates are going up anyway, right? [22:54]
mircea_popescu why couldn't you ?! [22:54]
smickles yeah, but it'd help them too [22:54]
FabianB mircea_popescu: chat/gossip? [22:54]
smickles they hire the llc as a contractor, [22:55]
smickles they don't have to mess with witholding your taxes and such [22:55]
mircea_popescu FabianB lol i am master of irc [22:55]
FabianB :) [22:55]
smickles -pr comes around to irc ocassionally [22:57]
smickles or someone pretending to be her [22:57]
copumpkin smickles: interesting. I'll look into it, but it might complicate compliance issues and things like that [22:57]
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mircea_popescu smickles she used to join and say stuff on -otc [22:57]
smickles copumpkin: it make it to where you'd have to keep track of your own taxes and pay quarterly estimates [22:57]
mircea_popescu but kinda not worth the hassle. [22:57]
copumpkin smickles: yeah, or hire someone else to do that for me :P [22:57]
copumpkin could be worth it [22:58]
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smickles heh, that's what accountants are for :D [22:58]
Diablo-D3 http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/128227435041.jpg [22:58]
Diablo-D3 TORPEDOS [22:58]
copumpkin smickles: how common is it to give hired LLCs bonuses and stuff like that? [22:58]
copumpkin it seems like they'd typically be given fixed contract rates [22:58]
smickles copumpkin: i'd have to do research, but i'm sure bonuses could easily be part of contracts [22:59]
copumpkin hmm, fair enough [22:59]
dub usually you wouldnt get bonuses but you are paid more up front [22:59]
copumpkin but bonuses are half the fun :) [22:59]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 someone's been recently posting all these delicious healtyh women [23:00]
mircea_popescu i've been enjoying. [23:00]
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mircea_popescu so let's see here. worst case scenario : [23:02]
mircea_popescu reward halves, bfl goes bankrupt, massive run on competitors, no asics till summer. [23:03]
mircea_popescu btc price = 50 on july 1st, diff ~5mn ? [23:03]
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FabianB if that's worst, what's best? [23:04]
mircea_popescu BFL delivers in december, 1 other competitor also delivers by january, diif > 20 mn by july, btc ~ 15ish [23:04]
mircea_popescu obviously "best" and "worst" are relative terms./ [23:05]
smickles mircea_popescu: worst case senario, the reward halving causes so many people to stop mining, txns stagnate, killing the economy, by the time the diff adjusts or asics hit in full swing, no one is interested, price = .1 [23:05]
mircea_popescu that's inconsistent internally. [23:05]
EskimoBob "mircea_popescu | btc price = 50 on july 1st, diff ~5mn ?" - if no new and useful services, I think it will be more like 5 EUR [23:05]
smickles heh, probably [23:05]
mircea_popescu EskimoBob http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/what-are-the-bitcoin-market-drivers/ [23:06]
mircea_popescu seen that ? [23:06]
smickles and that was b/f mircea knew SR was down for a long time [23:06]
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EskimoBob no, I visited your site 3 months ago and it had pictures of rainbow ponies and I listing of some shares. [23:07]
EskimoBob Oh, and some porn [23:07]
mircea_popescu it's not porn unless it's wet. [23:07]
EskimoBob don't forget the porn :) [23:07]
mircea_popescu smickles indeed lol. [23:08]
mircea_popescu how the fuck is this possibkle, 2 weeks offline [23:08]
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smickles mircea_popescu: the time to install the *actual* honeypot equipment? [23:09]
mircea_popescu fuck knows. [23:10]
mircea_popescu when /. fucked up its db and had to reindex [23:10]
mircea_popescu it was down ~6 hours. [23:10]
mircea_popescu if you upgrade you sanely set up the new server first then unplug [23:11]
mircea_popescu i never heard of two weeks before. [23:11]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.msg1361278#msg1361278 [23:21]
mircea_popescu the nefario = satoshi argument lives on. [23:21]
copumpkin lol, I find that hard to believe [23:21]
mircea_popescu i find that very amusing [23:22]
mircea_popescu think about it. pretty much the only funnier alternative is if boxxy made btc [23:22]
kuzetsa copumpkin: I don't consider the notion of nefario = satoshi to be any less plausible than gavin being satoshi [23:25]
EskimoBob no, no,no! it's meeeee! [23:28]
EskimoBob i still don't know how it happened [23:29]
EskimoBob LOL... OK, time to go. Have fun [23:29]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7752 @ 0.00052341 = 4.0575 BTC [-] [23:32]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa well that's for sure, seeing how it ain't gavin. [23:33]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla "smpake.com looks like a great idea. I'll read up on it." [23:34]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=125629.msg1361671#msg1361671 [23:34]
kakobrekla hm what is this [23:34]
kakobrekla is this dog? [23:34]
mircea_popescu i think this is cat [23:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24600 @ 0.0005235 = 12.8781 BTC [+] [23:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18950 @ 0.00052341 = 9.9186 BTC [-] [23:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00052341 = 8.5316 BTC [-] [23:38]
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mircea_popescu http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=2599762#post18252095 [23:57]
mircea_popescu doing some advertising for mpex/bitcoin on digitalpoint [23:57]
mircea_popescu if anyone has an acct drop a bump :) [23:57]
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