Forum logs for 26 Nov 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
dub so fishgame was hit and run? [00:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00052116 = 8.7555 BTC [-] [00:01]
dub hrm? people discussing in forums as if its up, been down over a day [00:02]
Ukto it was up a few hours ago ? [00:02]
Ukto http://78.47.168.188/ [00:03]
Ukto no fish atm [00:03]
Ukto not that i quote know how it works [00:03]
dub google failing [00:03]
Ukto *quite [00:03]
dub using the dns I get a 404 [00:04]
Ukto i have no idea [00:04]
Ukto all i know is that mircea_popescu had linked this url this morning [00:04]
Ukto first I saw of it [00:04]
kakobrekla ;;bc,stats [00:04]
gribble Current Blocks: 209572 | Current Difficulty: 3368767.1405329 | Next Difficulty At Block: 209663 | Next Difficulty In: 91 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 14 hours, 32 minutes, and 5 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 3421955.55190379 | Estimated Percent Change: 1.57886874195 [00:04]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5050 @ 0.00052116 = 2.6319 BTC [-] [00:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15738 @ 0.00052557 = 8.2714 BTC [+] [00:14]
smickles anyone know how to replicate this? [00:15]
smickles http://blockchain.info/unspent?active=1dice1e6pdhLzzWQq7yMidf6j8eAg7pkY [00:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14621 @ 0.00052831 = 7.7244 BTC [+] [00:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5329 @ 0.00053 = 2.8244 BTC [+] [00:19]
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mircea_popescu !ticker s.dice [00:20]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00330708 / 0.00338032 / 0.0034 (48305 shares, 163.29 BTC), 30day: 0.00180002 / 0.00332073 / 0.0034 (985627 shares, 3,273.01 BTC) [00:20]
mircea_popescu what about it smickles ? [00:21]
smickles it hit the second tranche [00:21]
smickles ;;halfreward [00:22]
gribble Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 21:32:13 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 2 days, 23 hours, 10 minutes, and 0 seconds. [00:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11771 @ 0.00053 = 6.2386 BTC [+] [00:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4126 @ 0.00053067 = 2.1895 BTC [+] [00:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15056 @ 0.00053082 = 7.992 BTC [+] [00:23]
mircea_popescu it oh ? [00:25]
mircea_popescu ;;rate Bargheimer 1 Runs the biggest fish game. Nice coding. [00:27]
gribble Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings. [00:27]
mircea_popescu heh he said he was. [00:31]
smickles is that the correct name? [00:32]
pigeons http://wonder-tonic.com/books2barcodes/ [00:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17544 @ 0.00053082 = 9.3127 BTC [+] [00:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 209 @ 0.0005311 = 0.111 BTC [+] [00:32]
dub pigeons: why? [00:34]
smickles pigeons: lol, i was just thinking of producing the blockchain in qr format for the fun of it [00:36]
pigeons :) [00:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052714 = 1.2361 BTC [-] [00:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 555 @ 0.00052708 = 0.2925 BTC [-] [00:41]
jurov ;;calc sqrt(3e9) [00:44]
gribble Error: invalid syntax (, line 1) [00:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052776 = 1.2376 BTC [+] [00:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19522 @ 0.00052794 = 10.3064 BTC [+] [00:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7734 @ 0.0005311 = 4.1075 BTC [+] [00:45]
jurov it's 54772... if a bit is 1x1mm, qr code would be 55x55meters [00:45]
jurov one would probably need spy plane/satellite to scan it :P [00:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052737 = 1.2367 BTC [-] [00:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4455 @ 0.00052708 = 2.3481 BTC [-] [00:46]
jurov ;;ident Bargheimer [00:49]
gribble Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead. [00:49]
pigeons i'm going to make up for the lack of a glbse ticker by pasting semi-random links: http://offbeatchina.com/modeling-for-teen-girl-clothes-on-tmall-72-year-old-grandpa-from-becomes-internet-sensation [00:51]
jurov orly, someone misses glbse ticker? [00:52]
pigeons no, i just needed an excuse [00:52]
jurov granted, there were some mysterious symbols, nowadays it's all like s.mpoe [00:52]
smickles lol, ok, segfault when trying to encode the image [00:54]
mircea_popescu ahaha the guy kciks ass [00:55]
jurov oh that's a guy??? i read that as "grandma"... *hides* [00:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053083 = 1.2448 BTC [+] [00:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6007 @ 0.0005311 = 3.1903 BTC [+] [00:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1595 @ 0.00053162 = 0.8479 BTC [+] [00:59]
smickles http://offbeatchina.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/112.png lol [01:02]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00052919 = 4.6833 BTC [-] [01:10]
mircea_popescu "It is not only GLBSE users that did not file claims or got double payments, some users that filed their claims and did not receive double payments are also not on the lists. " [01:12]
mircea_popescu could it get worse ? [01:12]
mircea_popescu at this point ? [01:12]
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Ukto it can ONLY get worse [01:12]
Ukto why are you asking? [01:12]
mircea_popescu but i mean... how ?! [01:13]
mircea_popescu literally, there is no longer any possiblity, no matter how theoretical. all has been used. [01:13]
Ukto if you dont know the answer, then you have not been paying attention to Nefario's history. [01:13]
Ukto End of Line. [01:13]
mircea_popescu Manual of Fail. A Textbook. [01:15]
Ukto I keep thinking about it [01:16]
Ukto and the only real opton I can come up wiht for doing "funds" non-backed things like rigs, but the passthroughs, etc.. is to just do it [01:17]
Ukto and put a giant red flag on the asset [01:17]
Ukto warning users [01:17]
Ukto I mean, there _are_ some good ppl, with good intentions, who wanna do things like mutual funds [01:17]
mircea_popescu Ukto it's how teramining was gonna go. [01:18]
Ukto I also dont want a certin someone >,> to go labeling my system as the asset sesspool. :P [01:18]
mircea_popescu lol [01:19]
mircea_popescu so don't list shit. [01:19]
Ukto like "they" did w/ glbse :P [01:19]
Ukto well [01:19]
Ukto if someone cant explain where the money comes from to pay the divs [01:19]
Ukto then it wont go up [01:19]
mircea_popescu good principle. [01:19]
mircea_popescu none of that "secret business" bs. [01:19]
Ukto thats rule #1 no matter what [01:19]
Ukto yeah [01:19]
mircea_popescu yeah. [01:19]
Ukto thats why I didnt get hurt by pi8 [01:19]
Ukto or bitcoinica [01:20]
jurov me too. exactly. [01:20]
mircea_popescu mother of god, giga's thread is on page 72 ? was 64 yest [01:20]
mircea_popescu what exactly do those people have to say ?! [01:20]
Ukto lol, to be expeted with the rabbit he pulled out of the hat :P [01:20]
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Ukto I dont think a single person expected it [01:21]
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jurov prolly everyone want to be hero members of btctalk [01:21]
jurov rewarding BS... what could probablo get wrong? [01:22]
jurov i got to "full member" only recently after several months of semi-daily visits [01:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8105 @ 0.00053162 = 4.3088 BTC [+] [01:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15043 @ 0.00053294 = 8.017 BTC [+] [01:24]
mircea_popescu jurov https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1357187#msg1357187 [01:26]
pigeons gambling addict "don't loan to me" asks for another loan: https://btcjam.com/listings/682 [01:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.00339594 = 6.7919 BTC [+] [01:34]
thestringpuller alright we're here just sittin in the car [01:35]
thestringpuller I want you to show me if you can get far [01:35]
jurov can anyone elighten me what is ciuciu's problem? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.msg1357221#msg1357221 [01:38]
jurov *enlighten [01:38]
jurov You did this as to show some activity on your site. You forgot to mention that the activity is from you, the owner of the site. Do you think this is OK? [01:41]
jurov omfg omfg [01:41]
mircea_popescu welll... basically, some months ago MPOE-PR called him a scammer. [01:42]
mircea_popescu and now... he defaulted. [01:42]
mircea_popescu pretty much the only problems i know of. [01:42]
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pigeons "Did Smikles knew about it?" [01:43]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=98574.0 [01:53]
mircea_popescu that is kinda cool. [01:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4230 @ 0.00053294 = 2.2543 BTC [+] [01:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2404 @ 0.000533 = 1.2813 BTC [+] [01:57]
mircea_popescu poor ciuciu. [01:59]
dub safe to class it as 'too stupid to warrant further interaction' [02:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13746 @ 0.000533 = 7.3266 BTC [+] [02:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3704 @ 0.00053317 = 1.9749 BTC [+] [02:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13577 @ 0.00053317 = 7.2388 BTC [+] [02:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5123 @ 0.00053334 = 2.7323 BTC [+] [02:04]
jurov i can't stop giggling over that accusation [02:06]
jurov i'll prolly put it into btctalk profile "accused of addting activity to mpex charts" [02:06]
jurov *adding [02:06]
mircea_popescu i don't think he understands much of what's going on around him. [02:09]
mircea_popescu sorta like gumpy. [02:09]
mircea_popescu Stopped by Meze Grill today. It was one of my must-visit places during my trip to NY. The food was DELICIOUS! But, I was informed that they don't take Bitcoin any more. "It didn't work out" Anyone have any idea why? [02:12]
mircea_popescu yea, i have a fuckin idea why. [02:12]
mircea_popescu because btc doesn't work for retail, that'd be why. [02:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17825 @ 0.00053334 = 9.5068 BTC [+] [02:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 465 @ 0.00053342 = 0.248 BTC [+] [02:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2274 @ 0.00339594 = 7.7224 BTC [+] [02:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 884 @ 0.00339999 = 3.0056 BTC [+] [02:14]
mircea_popescu !ticker s.mpoe [02:18]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00049912 / 0.00052292 / 0.00053519 (5361144 shares, 2,803.46 BTC), 30day: 0.0004522 / 0.00049707 / 0.00053519 (79565476 shares, 39,550.20 BTC) [02:18]
mircea_popescu jurov https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95826.40 [02:20]
mircea_popescu at least he doesn't seem to be targetting you particularly. [02:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19700 @ 0.00053342 = 10.5084 BTC [+] [02:21]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5805 @ 0.00053342 = 3.0965 BTC [+] [02:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3500 @ 0.00053491 = 1.8722 BTC [+] [02:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4709 @ 0.00053519 = 2.5202 BTC [+] [02:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14500 @ 0.00053519 = 7.7603 BTC [+] [02:30]
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thestringpuller jurov mr. broker [02:38]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C060T] 1000 @ 0.52001445 = 520.0145 BTC [-] [02:52]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C070T] 1000 @ 0.43951686 = 439.5169 BTC [-] [02:52]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C080T] 1000 @ 0.35901927 = 359.0193 BTC [-] [02:52]
smickles ;;ticker [02:53]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.49737, Best ask: 12.49738, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 12.49737, 24 hour volume: 24521.28612267, 24 hour low: 12.31250, 24 hour high: 12.60000, 24 hour vwap: 12.49009 [02:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053201 = 1.2476 BTC [-] [02:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20500 @ 0.00053184 = 10.9027 BTC [-] [02:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3184 @ 0.00053166 = 1.6928 BTC [-] [02:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1666 @ 0.00053166 = 0.8857 BTC [-] [03:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23134 @ 0.00053095 = 12.283 BTC [-] [03:01]
thestringpuller mr. smickles: [03:02]
thestringpuller http://codinginmysleep.com/block-reward-halving/ [03:02]
thestringpuller what is your vote? [03:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7778 @ 0.00053095 = 4.1297 BTC [-] [03:06]
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thestringpuller ;;halfreward [03:09]
gribble Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 21:49:14 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 2 days, 20 hours, 40 minutes, and 0 seconds. [03:09]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C060T] 1000 @ 0.52001445 = 520.0145 BTC [-] [03:11]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C070T] 1000 @ 0.43951686 = 439.5169 BTC [-] [03:12]
mircea_popescu basically an value investing vs efficient market theory vote. [03:12]
mircea_popescu judging by calls closing i guess there's not going to be much more of a jump. [03:13]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C080T] 1000 @ 0.35901927 = 359.0193 BTC [-] [03:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053504 = 1.2547 BTC [+] [03:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14760 @ 0.00053519 = 7.8994 BTC [+] [03:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5495 @ 0.00053525 = 2.9412 BTC [+] [03:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6454 @ 0.00053525 = 3.4545 BTC [+] [03:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6146 @ 0.00053526 = 3.2897 BTC [+] [03:16]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C060T] 1000 @ 0.52001445 = 520.0145 BTC [-] [03:22]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C070T] 1000 @ 0.43951686 = 439.5169 BTC [-] [03:22]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C080T] 1000 @ 0.35901927 = 359.0193 BTC [-] [03:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00053526 = 2.5157 BTC [+] [03:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053104 = 1.2453 BTC [-] [03:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6484 @ 0.00053095 = 3.4427 BTC [-] [03:29]
dub ;bc,blocks [03:34]
dub ;;bc,blocks [03:34]
gribble 209592 [03:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6604 @ 0.00053095 = 3.5064 BTC [-] [03:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1396 @ 0.00053093 = 0.7412 BTC [-] [03:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053136 = 1.246 BTC [+] [03:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5452 @ 0.00053144 = 2.8974 BTC [+] [03:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9278 @ 0.00053144 = 4.9307 BTC [+] [04:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.0005315 = 8.1585 BTC [+] [04:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00053525 = 0.5353 BTC [+] [04:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28760 @ 0.00053526 = 15.3941 BTC [+] [04:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053103 = 1.2453 BTC [-] [04:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7305 @ 0.00053093 = 3.8784 BTC [-] [04:17]
smickles lol, that sudoghost guy didn't see the connection between a e-currency modeled on the idea of Libertarian economist and Bitcoin [04:20]
smickles for serious [04:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3831 @ 0.00053093 = 2.034 BTC [-] [04:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5569 @ 0.00053045 = 2.9541 BTC [-] [04:21]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13281 @ 0.00053045 = 7.0449 BTC [-] [04:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8119 @ 0.00053027 = 4.3053 BTC [-] [04:25]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19831 @ 0.00053027 = 10.5158 BTC [-] [04:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2769 @ 0.00053026 = 1.4683 BTC [-] [04:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053214 = 1.2479 BTC [+] [04:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00053226 = 0.5323 BTC [+] [04:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8205 @ 0.00053227 = 4.3673 BTC [+] [04:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3500 @ 0.00339999 = 11.9 BTC [+] [04:43]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5795 @ 0.00053227 = 3.0845 BTC [+] [04:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21855 @ 0.00053465 = 11.6848 BTC [+] [04:45]
dub -otc is strange [04:50]
pigeons agreed [04:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9795 @ 0.00053465 = 5.2369 BTC [+] [04:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22905 @ 0.00053526 = 12.2601 BTC [+] [04:51]
dub 20% scam, 80% retard [04:51]
kakobrekla i got a btc paying job [04:57]
kakobrekla https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49971.msg1357503#msg1357503 [04:57]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla i made 4 btc off teh fish today [04:58]
kakobrekla goddamn. [04:58]
mircea_popescu dub it jumped the shark back in april. [04:58]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla but im done with it so. [04:59]
mircea_popescu o hey, so you're now kakobrekla-pr ? wd. [04:59]
dub kakobrekla: nice [05:00]
dub paid btc to hand out on IRC, tough gig [05:00]
kakobrekla :D [05:00]
dub s/hand/hang [05:00]
mircea_popescu coingenuity https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=127763 [05:01]
mircea_popescu dub see, you're missing out [05:02]
dub I don't follow [05:07]
mircea_popescu how come you're not being paid to hang out [05:08]
dub I've had some rather arduous irc jobs before, never got paid though [05:10]
mircea_popescu nutjobs you mean ? [05:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4089 @ 0.00053526 = 2.1887 BTC [+] [05:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5611 @ 0.00053575 = 3.0061 BTC [+] [05:14]
dub herding nutjobs was one [05:16]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053037 = 1.2437 BTC [-] [05:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21167 @ 0.00053026 = 11.224 BTC [-] [05:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2649 @ 0.00052956 = 1.4028 BTC [-] [05:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5000 @ 0.00052956 = 2.6478 BTC [-] [05:24]
coingenuity mircea_popescu: aye, some specific items are delayed due to the hurricane in the USA [05:28]
coingenuity we've let those customers know via email [05:28]
mircea_popescu a ok. just thought you'd want to know. [05:28]
coingenuity ya, thanks, let my staff know to speak to him [05:28]
coingenuity certain manufacturers are based in the manhatten area, they got hit REALLY hard in the hurricane [05:29]
coingenuity so there's a bit of a delay on specific items, but we're letting folks know as needed [05:29]
coingenuity as they fix the situation there with roads and electricity etc the delay will vanish pretty rapidly, but nothing we can do about freaksize hurricanes... yet! [05:30]
mircea_popescu still not fully restored power in manhattan have they ? [05:31]
smickles BAM! [05:50]
smickles I say BAM! [05:50]
smickles Macintosh was discussing Friedrich Hayek's model, not Bitcoins, and is a 14 year old document, discussing something 10 years before Bitcoin was introduced. I'm not following the correlation between Hayek's model possibly not being considered a security and Bitcoin, a different concept entirely. - SudoGhost 01:39, 26 November 2012 (UTC) [05:50]
smickles You don't see the connection between a Libertarian who advocated free experiment in methods of transmitting value and Bitcoin? [05:50]
smickles Did I miss something, I thought the relevant footnote was about an digital currency and Ginburg brought it up as reference for digital currencies being unlikely to be regulated as securities in a discussion about Bitcoin being a security or not which directly impacts whether or not Bitcoin is a Ponzi scheme. --Smickles86 (talk) 02:13, 26 November 2012 (UTC) [05:50]
smickles Also, if you still see it hard to see, why don't we use the very next two sentences in the Grinberg text: "Bitcoin supporters may similarly argue, as elaborated below, that bitcoins do not look like securities or investments, especially because there is no money- making enterprise that is attempting to raise money, and that bitcoins are instead like commodities or currencies, which are generally not regulated under the federal securities laws. Fu [05:50]
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mircea_popescu lol smickles [05:54]
smickles it was a little exciting [05:55]
smickles ya know, that one guy not seeing the connection between digital currency based on austrian economics and Bitcoin [05:56]
mircea_popescu a person that has not the experience of a good beating [05:56]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1748 @ 0.0005321 = 0.9301 BTC [+] [05:56]
mircea_popescu has not the incentive and thus not the ability to back down when they've been proven wrong. [05:56]
smickles heh, I consider him moving the goalposts so many times to be backing down [05:57]
mircea_popescu i considered him an idiot since about a week ago, or was it two. [05:58]
smickles since the first week of November , iirc [05:58]
mircea_popescu time flies [05:59]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00053585 = 0.5359 BTC [+] [06:00]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2960 @ 0.00339999 = 10.064 BTC [+] [06:05]
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mircea_popescu Accuracy [06:13]
mircea_popescu The Merton model has been shown to be empirically accurate for non-financial firms, especially manufacturing entities. The highly leveraged nature of financial firms produces CDS spreads which are significantly higher than observed in the market due to the asset diffusion process. [06:13]
mircea_popescu they imply that the spreads observed in the market are correct [06:13]
mircea_popescu this is of course not the case : financials are overbought by degrees of fucking magnitude in the past decade+ [06:13]
smickles 'degrees of fucking magnitude' [06:15]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8155 @ 0.00053586 = 4.3699 BTC [+] [06:16]
mircea_popescu yeah. [06:18]
mircea_popescu sorta like miner bonds in btc. on the strength of their revenue generating abilities, us investment banks for instance are 100 to 1000x oversized, all through the 90s and 00s [06:19]
mircea_popescu just like on the strength of their revenue generating abilities, miner bonds shouldn't really have seen investment over the 100 btc mark for the entire slate. [06:19]
smickles I feel like these models would benifit from being based on lognormal curves rather than gausian ones [06:23]
smickles but i don't have the time to work on that math [06:24]
mircea_popescu smickles it's not based on either. [06:25]
mircea_popescu merton is basically "let's consider holding a company as the equivalent of holding an european style call on its assets" [06:25]
mircea_popescu has some diffusion and a stochastic minlevel thing. [06:27]
smickles a Gaussian process is a stochastic process [06:28]
smickles The barrier itself is stochastic, [06:28]
smickles :P [06:28]
smickles i may have had it backwards a little [06:28]
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mircea_popescu anyway, im not so sure moving from gauss to galton will necessarily benefit anything. [06:31]
smickles heh, i'm not sure either, but the longer tails feel better to me when i consider that LTCM got hit by a 'tail event' which may have been covered if their formula wasn't gaussian [06:32]
smickles of course, they did some other stupid shit too... but even so [06:33]
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mircea_popescu no, that's my point : they lied. [06:34]
mircea_popescu to get any benefit from the fins discussion of statistics we'd have to have solved all the other problems [06:34]
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mircea_popescu LCTM is actually a fine example. the idea of arbitraging off-run bonds is probably workable, if you keep expenses low. [06:39]
mircea_popescu then they suddenly saw 1bn+ in capital and well... there just wasn't room to spend that much in their intended market [06:40]
mircea_popescu so they just... fucked it up instead. [06:40]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3901 @ 0.0005293 = 2.0648 BTC [-] [06:43]
dub http://securityaffairs.co/wordpress/10404/security/bitcoin-the-new-paradise-for-money-laundering.html lulzy [06:47]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 4300 @ 0.00339999 = 14.62 BTC [+] [06:50]
Namjies dub: I usually stop reading when the english is this badly written. [06:50]
mircea_popescu wait. [06:51]
dub maybe its ciuciu [06:51]
mircea_popescu anyone else see the funny in "security affairs" [06:51]
mircea_popescu what with the recent head of the cia scandal ? [06:51]
dub The lack of control on the financial flows to and from the cyberspace makes recycling operations through a virtual currency extremely efficient and very difficult to prevent, it must be also considered the absence of a regulation to approach the cyber laundering phenomena. [06:52]
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mircea_popescu how about they just suck my cock. [06:57]
mircea_popescu this attitude as if "control" is something that's feasible, possible, desirable or even allowable is getting on my nerves. [06:58]
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mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-problem-of-too-much-money/ [07:16]
mircea_popescu here! [07:16]
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Namjies mircea, what's that thing at the bottom: UPCOMING - K.KBRL - Pending, due klim. [07:42]
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mircea_popescu just a little inside jok [07:47]
mircea_popescu e [07:47]
Namjies eh [07:56]
toffoo mircea: I enjoy your entertaining blog, so I'll leave you one little tip I often mention to non-native writers of English: the correct key for an apostrophe (used in possessives and contractions) is this one: ' not this one: ` [07:56]
mircea_popescu and i do use ' [07:57]
mircea_popescu don't i? [07:57]
toffoo it's probably your keyboard's fault [07:58]
mircea_popescu my keyboard is and always was us ? [07:58]
mircea_popescu course, i see wp renders it as ’ [07:58]
mircea_popescu or do you mean specifically numbers, such as 20`000 ? [07:58]
toffoo you sure you're using a U.S. keyboard? [07:59]
mircea_popescu yep [07:59]
toffoo or maybe your OS it set up with some other weird key mapping [07:59]
mircea_popescu i can't stnad localised kbds. never used anything but us101 [07:59]
toffoo it happens all the time [07:59]
mircea_popescu mnope, my os is also us [07:59]
mircea_popescu do you see ' and ' different on your terminal ? [08:00]
toffoo weird .. well the apostrophes that come out on your blog are definitely wrong [08:00]
toffoo no, here those look the same to me [08:00]
mircea_popescu ok, quote me a sentence off the blog ? [08:00]
pigeons I only have ' and ` I don't have ’ [08:00]
mircea_popescu on your kbd you mean pigeons ? [08:01]
pigeons yeah [08:01]
mircea_popescu me too. but for some reason wp decided " is to be curlified [08:01]
mircea_popescu and same for ' [08:01]
toffoo hmm…ya, when I paste it here it looks right [08:01]
mircea_popescu well then maybe... YOUR terminal has some localisation weirdness ? [08:01]
toffoo maybe it's just the font or the way the blog is rendering it .. weird [08:01]
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toffoo well I mentioned it because I only noticed it on your blog [08:02]
toffoo and I see the same thing all the time around here from non-English writers around here [08:02]
mircea_popescu you're the first one to have mentioned it, so i guess we got something here. [08:02]
mircea_popescu just so happens i'm millitant against dumbass special chars. wrote romanian for years w/o any of their little squigly shits [08:03]
mircea_popescu much to everyone's chagrin [08:03]
toffoo ya, i'm sure romanian is a lot worse [08:03]
mircea_popescu îţâşă [08:04]
mircea_popescu there's a word dedicated to it. [08:04]
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mircea_popescu http://www.jeg.ro/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/obama-biscuits.jpg [08:09]
Namjies Dafuq? [08:15]
dub is there a new url format for fishgame my old code no work [08:18]
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pigeons https://btcjam.com/listings/671 [08:23]
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mircea_popescu pigeons Amount @ Rate BTC 10000.00000 @ 1.0% [08:47]
mircea_popescu cute. [08:47]
pigeons yes, the rate displayed on that site is a monthly rate, but still [08:48]
mircea_popescu 0 Active , 0 Repaid [08:48]
pigeons lot of coins to come out of nowhere and ask for [08:48]
mircea_popescu basically, the people with too much btc have to have a way to get rid of the burden [08:48]
pigeons this looks like a helpful way to accomplish that [08:49]
mircea_popescu This WOT is so complicated! I'm a usual game developer. I'm not able to get how to [08:49]
mircea_popescu register there and I've never used GPG or something like that. :) [08:49]
mircea_popescu Thanks for your offer though. [08:49]
mircea_popescu teh suck. [08:49]
pigeons is that from the forum? [08:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 7105 @ 0.00339999 = 24.1569 BTC [+] [08:51]
mircea_popescu not even. [08:51]
pigeons so danieldaniel can figure out how to read the guide and register, but this guy is a "developer" [08:52]
pigeons here you go, 50% per month https://btcjam.com/listings/663 [08:53]
mircea_popescu Need for site program [08:54]
mircea_popescu 0 Active , 0 Repaid [08:54]
mircea_popescu basically... all these people making sites on the theory that bitcoin is the new hip social media and the userbase will sort it out itself need to go away [08:54]
mircea_popescu preferably back to wow or whatever the fuck they were doing. [08:55]
mircea_popescu "I need this so I can pay my hosting and other things. I have very good credit and can furnish." pff [08:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053372 = 1.2516 BTC [+] [09:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14705 @ 0.00053407 = 7.8535 BTC [+] [09:04]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 5 @ 0.06577646 = 0.3289 BTC [-] [09:05]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C120T] 2 @ 0.06577646 = 0.1316 BTC [-] [09:08]
pigeons i guess i could just say, haha look at all the btcjam listings, but i will do you the service of filtering: https://btcjam.com/listings/691 [09:08]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C130T] 1 @ 0.03353922 BTC [-] [09:08]
mircea_popescu freemoney is borrowing 2btc ?! [09:10]
pigeons i doubt that is the same freemoney [09:14]
mircea_popescu i guess name squatting is the next big scam. [09:14]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9119 @ 0.00052764 = 4.8115 BTC [-] [09:15]
pigeons i'm going through btcjam and leaving comments since there's nothing on tv [09:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2352 @ 0.00338509 = 7.9617 BTC [-] [09:18]
pigeons why are you going to borrow at 7%/month to pay your cell phone bill that's in collections and stopped accruing interest? [09:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053402 = 1.2523 BTC [+] [09:19]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11417 @ 0.00053481 = 6.1059 BTC [+] [09:19]
pigeons and the BTC could go up in value vs the USD his bill is in [09:20]
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mircea_popescu did the person actually say that's what the btc is for ?! [09:21]
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pigeons yes [09:22]
mircea_popescu ask them to join the wot. [09:22]
pigeons oh ok actually they give a reason (can't get grad school loan with that collection on report) https://btcjam.com/listings/646 [09:23]
pigeons can't be a scam either, they have a verified facebook page! [09:24]
Namjies right... [09:24]
Namjies Aww... I'm sad without GLBSE... no crazy sellers/buyers for fast 100%+ profit flips. [09:25]
mircea_popescu grad school loan ? [09:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2183 @ 0.00053481 = 1.1675 BTC [+] [09:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3810 @ 0.00053561 = 2.0407 BTC [+] [09:26]
mircea_popescu they want to borrow untraceable btc to repay phone bill in collections to be able to get money off the state that they will NEVER repay [09:27]
mircea_popescu while "studying" some bs social pseudosciences ? [09:27]
pigeons yeah basically, but they asked nicely [09:27]
mircea_popescu they need the "substance not form" doctrine extended to apply to this. [09:28]
mircea_popescu send him to jale on obscenity charges. [09:29]
pigeons i wish there were more loan requests, i could browse these all day [09:30]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13481 @ 0.00052764 = 7.1131 BTC [-] [09:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1524 @ 0.00052708 = 0.8033 BTC [-] [09:30]
pigeons "Need 12 more bitcoins for medication 4 son' [09:31]
pigeons "Loan to Buy Girlfriend Perfect Supprise Birthday Present" [09:32]
mircea_popescu ya well that's all for me. gnite. [09:33]
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mircea_popescu pigeons https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112447.msg1358331#msg1358331 [18:47]
mircea_popescu this is going well. [18:47]
pigeons shocking! [18:50]
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mircea_popescu im really impressed with the "we won't spend 30 btc to get reg'd on mpex cause it's expensive" [18:52]
mircea_popescu "we shall invest it in hiar instead" [18:52]
mircea_popescu crowd [18:52]
mircea_popescu http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/19-11-2012/122849-obama_soviet_mistake-0/ meanwhile in soviet russia... [18:53]
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smickles heh, btcjam scammers, who'd've thunk it [19:05]
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mircea_popescu apparently there's still people who have too much btc for their sense. [19:11]
mircea_popescu someone has to service them. [19:11]
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gigavps good morning gents [19:12]
mircea_popescu o hi [19:14]
mircea_popescu did the angry mob sue you yet ? [19:14]
smickles good forenoon [19:14]
gigavps the angry mob has quitted down a bit [19:18]
gigavps i was trending on bitcoinx.com for a couple days though [19:18]
smickles heh, i stopped looking at bitcoinx because of that [19:18]
smickles you made it useless [19:18]
gigavps hopefully things will get better when i post the list and some faqs [19:18]
gigavps deprived seems to think i've changed the contract for some reason because of the way quentin wrote the claims letter [19:19]
mircea_popescu lol trending shavers. [19:20]
mircea_popescu Topic Score [19:20]
mircea_popescu CGMINER GPU FPGA overc monit fanspd RPC stratum linux/windows/osx/mip/r-pi 2.9.5 59 [19:20]
mircea_popescu [GLBSE] BFLS.RIG - BFL Hardware mining & Sales 27 [19:20]
mircea_popescu i fail to see what sense this makes. [19:20]
mircea_popescu gigavps : i think that argument revolves around the use of I. i guess many people figured you were doing the bonds personally [19:24]
mircea_popescu rather than as a business. [19:24]
gigavps well, they will believe whatever they want to believe [19:25]
mircea_popescu im sure there's plenty of that heaped on top hehe [19:25]
gigavps giga vps is my handle for a reason [19:26]
gigavps my personal handle is liferealized [19:26]
mircea_popescu "Then we need a lawyer, ideally available to get paid when he recovers our stolen funds. Anyone can suggest one?" [19:31]
mircea_popescu that part was really funny. [19:31]
Diablo-D3 bwhahaha [19:31]
Diablo-D3 oh man [19:31]
Diablo-D3 I think I almost pissed myself [19:31]
mircea_popescu need to start on those kegels ? [19:33]
gigavps LOL [19:37]
gigavps i haven't heard about kegels in a while [19:37]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: I thought that in guys made it worse not better [19:38]
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mircea_popescu hm... i have no idea honestly. [19:38]
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gigavps better stop doing those kegels mircea_popescu [19:40]
mircea_popescu bah [19:40]
mircea_popescu next im gonna have to stop eating babies [19:40]
mircea_popescu what's this world coming to. [19:40]
* gigavps hides his baby [19:41]
mircea_popescu http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Kegel_exercises_diagram.png doesn't this look like the diagram of a pussy fart ? [19:41]
mircea_popescu "Exercises are usually done to reduce urinary incontinence,[3] reduce urinary incontinence after childbirth,[4] and reduce premature ejaculatory occurrences in men,[5] as well as to increase the size and intensity of erections.[6]" <<< there you go Diablo-D3 [19:42]
gigavps the arrows are going in the wrong direction [19:42]
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Diablo-D3 >size [19:42]
Diablo-D3 dude, if my erect dick gets any bigger, Im going to have to start having sex with female horses. [19:42]
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mircea_popescu hey, i don't judge. [19:45]
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mod6 haha [19:47]
mircea_popescu mod6 someone should make a "choicest bits of -ass and other sets" programme. [19:52]
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Diablo-D3 when does the reward half happen? [19:52]
gigavps 2 days [19:53]
gigavps ;;halfreward [19:53]
Ukto [11:55] Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 12:23:00 2012 | Time remaining: 2 days, 2 hours, 30 minutes, and 0 seconds [19:53]
gribble Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 20:23:18 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 2 days, 2 hours, 30 minutes, and 0 seconds. [19:53]
gigavps nice [19:53]
mod6 mircea_popescu: oh like a bash.org for classic moments in -ass land? [20:00]
pigeons look at the /q namespace on namecoin for quotes [20:00]
pigeons http://explorer.dot-bit.org/n/74239 [20:01]
gigavps where is usagi? [20:02]
smickles here and there [20:02]
smickles mostly in lala land [20:02]
pigeons http://explorer.dot-bit.org/n/74241 [20:02]
gigavps he/she/whomever seems to like to jump on the drama bandwagon [20:02]
smickles what is this /q namespace on namecoins a place to spend a little namecoin to permanently quote someone? [20:05]
pigeons seems so [20:06]
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pigeons http://explorer.dot-bit.org/n/74240 [20:08]
gigavps lol [20:10]
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smickles woah [20:16]
smickles that's shocking and funny [20:16]
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mircea_popescu {"info": "we can spin it as 'we are closing' and do the neatest, cleanest, best run shut-down ever..."} [20:23]
mircea_popescu lol [20:23]
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smickles !ticker s.dice [21:26]
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smickles assbot? [21:26]
jurov assbot is afk, apparently [21:27]
smickles ;;later tell kakrobrekla I think we lost assbot [21:27]
gribble The operation succeeded. [21:27]
mircea_popescu http://live.coinbr.com/?mpsic=S.MPOE [21:27]
mircea_popescu check that out! it's like... diffusion ? [21:27]
smickles So, on wikipedia, the statement about some people thinking that bitcoin is a ponzi with lame ass sources, seems to need to be countered wit a powerful statement sourcing the SEC, the ECB, a law professor discussing bitcoin, and a law professor discussing a digital currency based on Austrian school economics [21:29]
smickles woah, that does look like diffusion [21:30]
smickles it is certainly two divergent trends [21:30]
mircea_popescu its actually exciting to watch this! [21:31]
mircea_popescu i wonder what's next. [21:31]
smickles one wide will win out, there are more bids than asks overall, but the asks 'pile up' much steaper [21:31]
smickles DeaDTerra: irc is better :P [21:32]
smickles ;;halfreward [21:32]
gribble Estimated time of bitcoin block reward halving: Wed Nov 28 20:32:11 2012 UTC | Time remaining: 2 days, 1 hour, and 0 seconds. [21:32]
mircea_popescu i'm even more curious where btc ends on month close. [21:32]
mircea_popescu every few months there's one of these that might make or break a few fortunes [21:33]
smickles well, how likely are people to freak out? taking the question in general... I'd say that we're doomed [21:33]
mircea_popescu i frankly can see anything between 10 and 20 [21:34]
smickles clearly we should take icbit's futures marked as an acceptable prediction of the price after the reward halving [21:35]
smickles it says 12.25 [21:35]
mircea_popescu lolk [21:46]
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dub is it safe to click his link, might be a scam [21:59]
mircea_popescu which link ? [22:00]
dub the DeaDTerra one [22:00]
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mircea_popescu "Apparently usagi's now selling off FPGAs bought using BMF funds on behalf of BMF shareholders and using the proceeds to repay the "liquidity loans" he took out for CPA, presumably because he offered to make himself personally liable for those loans" [22:01]
mircea_popescu this is like the drama goose [22:02]
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Guest28801 back [22:05]
Guest28801 ops [22:05]
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kakobrekla link me to drama. [22:06]
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mircea_popescu assbot is dead [22:09]
kakobrekla oh [22:09]
kakobrekla havent noticed [22:09]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113708.msg1358922#msg1358922 drama [22:09]
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kakobrekla dunno why it dies here and there, has to do something with ssl [22:10]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27900 @ 0.00053197 = 14.842 BTC [-] [22:17]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2300 @ 0.00053197 = 1.2235 BTC [-] [22:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00053853 = 8.078 BTC [+] [22:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28513 @ 0.00053853 = 15.3551 BTC [+] [22:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00053859 = 0.5386 BTC [+] [22:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3472 @ 0.0005386 = 1.87 BTC [+] [22:34]
pigeons https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=126616.msg1358837#msg1358837 [22:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17900 @ 0.0005386 = 9.6409 BTC [+] [22:41]
dub lol [22:41]
dub that guys mom needs to take away his computer [22:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6400 @ 0.00053597 = 3.4302 BTC [-] [22:45]
mircea_popescu all the everyday losers are too soon. [22:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00052898 = 1.5869 BTC [-] [22:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00052824 = 2.9053 BTC [-] [22:47]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17750 @ 0.00053525 = 9.5007 BTC [+] [22:51]
mircea_popescu lmao [22:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13450 @ 0.0005386 = 7.2442 BTC [+] [22:51]
mircea_popescu nov 25th, i write on the problem of too much money [22:51]
mircea_popescu nov the 26th, graham does too. [22:52]
mircea_popescu thought leader i. [22:52]
smickles graham? [22:52]
mircea_popescu http://ycombinator.com/ycvc.html [22:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00052824 = 3.5392 BTC [-] [22:54]
mircea_popescu https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2012/11/even-a-vpn-service-cant-protect-your-privacy-if-youre-using-bank-of-america/ [22:59]
mircea_popescu lol [22:59]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00053173 = 5.1312 BTC [+] [23:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 500 @ 0.00052824 = 0.2641 BTC [-] [23:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3050 @ 0.00336849 = 10.2739 BTC [-] [23:03]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11250 @ 0.00052824 = 5.9427 BTC [-] [23:06]
smickles http://blog.smickles.com/bitcoin/proposal-for-rewording-the-ponzi-accusation-statement/ [23:06]
smickles More wiki 'debate' pr0n [23:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00052824 = 1.1357 BTC [-] [23:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00052679 = 5.505 BTC [-] [23:08]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00052881 = 4.4949 BTC [+] [23:15]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6500 @ 0.00053133 = 3.4536 BTC [+] [23:30]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00052881 = 2.1152 BTC [-] [23:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22600 @ 0.00053133 = 12.0081 BTC [+] [23:34]
smickles interesting, http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2012/11/26/payments-startup-balanced-innovates-in-wrong-direction/ leading to https://github.com/balanced/balanced-api/issues/204 [23:40]
mircea_popescu aw [23:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00052887 = 2.1684 BTC [-] [23:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2441 @ 0.00053133 = 1.297 BTC [+] [23:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8550 @ 0.00052881 = 4.5213 BTC [-] [23:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15250 @ 0.00052679 = 8.0335 BTC [-] [23:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00052665 = 1.58 BTC [-] [23:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1800 @ 0.00052548 = 0.9459 BTC [-] [23:55]
smickles anyone notice http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-stanish-x-iso4217-a3-00#section-2.3 and http://www.ifex-project.org/our-proposals/x-iso4217-a3? [23:56]
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