Forum logs for 27 Mar 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
jurov ;;bids 0 [00:00]
gribble There are currently 36649783 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9609689.18993 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0173 seconds [00:00]
Bugpowder__ all time high [00:00]
Bugpowder__ 9.6MM [00:00]
Bugpowder__ tiberiusiv: that was due to margin calls [00:00]
jborkl well, if I need my btcoins next week I will worry about it then [00:00]
Bugpowder__ asset correlation approaches 1 in periods of crisis [00:01]
jurov yes everyone has poor understanding, except you [00:01]
jborkl Jurov, I guess you are a dumbass [00:01]
jborkl how many Bitcoins do you have Jurov- seem to doing ok I think [00:02]
jurov well, whole notion that ppl will sell en masse btc to buy us tresury bonds seems utterly ridiculous [00:02]
jurov they will use all fiat and other assets to do so , not btc [00:02]
Bugpowder__ tiberiusiv: the problem I have is that half of what you are saying makes perfect sense, but the other half is taking things quite a bit past what I consider reasonable [00:02]
jborkl oyu think - sp500 and bitcon price are related [00:02]
jborkl you [00:02]
jborkl bitcoin [00:02]
jborkl you can read anything into a chart [00:03]
jurov yes but you reason that the correlation is caused bby credit contractions and us treasury bonds [00:03]
jurov nice, so you've got two data point? [00:03]
jurov congrats [00:03]
Bugpowder__ BTC is not considered an asset yet [00:04]
Bugpowder__ by nearly anyone [00:04]
Bugpowder__ but us [00:04]
Bugpowder__ Your explaination would make more sense if BTC was already established, had a market cap of >10BB [00:04]
Namworld Calls going up in value [00:05]
Bugpowder__ I think other forces are driving BTCUSD here [00:05]
Bugpowder__ now these forces may be correlated to a macro sentiment shift [00:05]
jborkl World economy over $70 trilliion [00:05]
Bugpowder__ for example, flight to safety [00:05]
Bugpowder__ = move to treasurys, move to BTC [00:05]
jborkl you are the idiot [00:06]
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jborkl you shut up with nonsense [00:06]
MJR_ ugh [00:06]
MJR_ tiberiusiv: i think we are all adults and know what we are doing [00:06]
MJR_ lol [00:06]
MJR_ oh thank god [00:06]
jborkl bye fucktard [00:07]
MJR_ srsly, for someone who hangs out in btc forums...he is constantly going on about how bad of an investment they are [00:07]
MJR_ oh no, i'm scared of volatility [00:07]
Bugpowder__ It's almost time for a ponzi chart update. [00:07]
Bugpowder__ I want my fund value to hit 2BTC/share [00:08]
jurov yes, only if he could be baited to short... but no [00:08]
Namworld Fund value? [00:08]
MJR_ i know! [00:08]
MJR_ i'm like just go short if you are so bearish [00:08]
MJR_ the most annoying people in the world don't practice what they preach [00:08]
Bugpowder__ I express all my investments as shares in a 'fund' [00:08]
Bugpowder__ with a NAV that stared at 1BTC [00:08]
jborkl maybe he should have shorted it with iambakell [00:08]
Namworld oh [00:08]
Namworld So there's no actual fund =P [00:09]
Bugpowder__ well [00:09]
MJR_ he offered smickles a bet that was without escrow two years from now [00:09]
MJR_ ... [00:09]
Bugpowder__ I played around with it [00:09]
MJR_ for 100 btc [00:09]
Bugpowder__ Managed some coins for friends and family [00:09]
Bugpowder__ but [00:09]
Bugpowder__ I don't think I can legally offer investments outside of that group [00:10]
Bugpowder__ so I shut it down after a few months [00:11]
Bugpowder__ still keep the records [00:11]
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MJR_ nice [00:12]
MJR_ its a grey area...investment pools have different regulations from something offered to the public or qualified invvestors [00:12]
MJR_ anyone know of a fix library for python? [00:13]
MJR_ fixlib seems to be broken somehow [00:13]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4068 @ 0.00063341 = 2.5767 BTC [+] [00:17]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2555 @ 0.00449992 = 11.4973 BTC [-] [00:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 400 @ 0.00449997 = 1.8 BTC [+] [00:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00449998 = 3.6 BTC [+] [00:40]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2879 @ 0.00449999 = 12.9555 BTC [+] [00:44]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01501 BTC [+] [00:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.015 BTC [-] [00:47]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.68 = 6.8 BTC [-] [00:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [MININGCO.ETF] 1 @ 0.6499 BTC [+] [00:55]
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mircea_popescu ;;rate diana_coman 1 [00:56]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user diana_coman has been recorded. [00:56]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 36 @ 0.68 = 24.48 BTC [-] [00:57]
dub no girls on internets [00:57]
mircea_popescu shh [00:57]
jurov you sexist [00:57]
jurov haha [00:57]
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assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1089 BTC [+] [01:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 4 @ 0.68 = 2.72 BTC [-] [01:05]
Diablo-D3 wow, I think gmaxwell is a shill for bfl [01:06]
Azelphur wow, I think Diablo-D3 is a shill for Ubuntu [01:10]
Diablo-D3 Azelphur: I heard they're ending the ubuntu distro sometime in the next year or two [01:10]
Diablo-D3 this makes me happy [01:10]
Azelphur I didn't hear this, this makes me sad, especially as I'm currently wearing my Ubuntu tshirt [01:10]
Diablo-D3 yeah, they wanna focus on being a hardware… whatever it is they think they're doing [01:11]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.6501 BTC [-] [01:11]
Azelphur fun [01:11]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 100 @ 0.65 = 65 BTC [-] [01:11]
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mircea_popescu lmao [01:15]
mircea_popescu more like, unity failed so no money so fuck this [01:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.009989 = 0.03 BTC [-] [01:17]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 7 @ 0.00999 = 0.0699 BTC [+] [01:18]
jurov btw, someone asked how many customers coinbr has [01:19]
jurov it's between 50-100 active accounts [01:19]
MJR_ nice! [01:19]
jurov but whole coinbr is bigger that bitfinsex by a healthy margin [01:19]
MJR_ huh, they are really ending ubuntu? [01:20]
iz i parsed "bitfinsex" incorrectly when scanning this scrollback.. [01:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 60 @ 0.7 = 42 BTC [+] [01:21]
dub Diablo-D3 is right gmax is a bfl shill [01:21]
Diablo-D3 dub: er, since when did you agree with me on anything? [01:21]
dub I've been banned from -mining for >6 months for suggesting their shipping schedule may not be accurate [01:22]
Diablo-D3 heh [01:22]
Diablo-D3 he kickbanned me then +q'ed me [01:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5650 @ 0.00063879 = 3.6092 BTC [+] [01:22]
mircea_popescu he's just an idiot. [01:23]
mircea_popescu shills make money. [01:23]
dub that too [01:23]
dub presumably he is getting paid in blowjobs from Luke-Jr [01:23]
dub or some other bfl shill PT [01:24]
Diablo-D3 yeah this is stupid [01:24]
Diablo-D3 Im just going to stand back and let the whole thing collapse, really [01:24]
Diablo-D3 people sometimes just refuse to learn [01:27]
KRS1 i never understood the need for ubuntu *cough debian* anyway.. [01:28]
mircea_popescu KRS1 sorta like mpex gui [01:28]
Diablo-D3 Ive been using debian for like 15 years [01:28]
Diablo-D3 why change now [01:28]
KRS1 glad to hear that..one less linux distro [01:28]
dub debian is good for when you want to actually use linux and not just be a douche [01:29]
Diablo-D3 dub: exactly [01:29]
Diablo-D3 although I dont like how they're discussing moving to systemd [01:29]
Diablo-D3 if that happens, I think I may jump to alpine =/ [01:29]
dub at some point most people outgrow douchery and realise debian is jesus [01:29]
dub unless they are freebsd douches who will always remain so [01:30]
KRS1 lol sounds like someone didnt ever grow out of their training OS [01:30]
KRS1 er pants [01:31]
dub pray tell what is your preffered *nix KRS1? [01:31]
dub inb4 slackware [01:31]
KRS1 why tell you so i can be another douche [01:32]
* dub called it [01:32]
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mircea_popescu sweet, we haven't had a holy war here in like a month. [01:38]
Bugpowder Tiberius? [01:38]
jurov tiberius isn't war... although produced quite a flood tho [01:39]
jurov so when bitcoin stops rising there will be credit (among other things) crunch [01:40]
mircea_popescu holy war = "apple is better than windoze" "no slackware is better than sarge" [01:40]
jurov or was it other way round? [01:40]
jurov gäntoo rulez [01:41]
dub wat [01:41]
dub gentoo is the slamming your cock and balls in a door of linux [01:42]
jurov yeah feels so gooood [01:42]
jurov especially the hardened variety [01:42]
MJR_ fuck...debian is the purest linux there really is [01:43]
MJR_ don't know about ubuntu...not a big fan [01:43]
MJR_ but fuck yum and that bullshit [01:43]
jurov debian is fine...but i have to compile newer stuff on it all the time anyway [01:44]
MJR_ its apt-get [01:44]
MJR_ to me it seems like they just reinvent the wheel in a lot of the others [01:44]
mircea_popescu apt-get ftw [01:44]
MJR_ or make things so niche that like one guy is like "this is perfect!" [01:44]
MJR_ but srsly, debian works, its simple and you can make it do anything...just how i like my women [01:45]
jurov oh, wasn't debian that fucked the keys? cuz they know better than upstream? [01:45]
MJR_ not sure [01:45]
MJR_ but debian is usually as upstream as you can get [01:45]
MJR_ besides linux kernel [01:45]
MJR_ not saying the other packages may not be off, but debian can run almost anything [01:46]
MJR_ gentoo is the slamming your cock and balls in a door of linux :) [01:46]
MJR_ i srsly don't get why not just fork debian and make apt-get do what you want...why create yum and rpl etc [01:47]
MJR_ its like saying i'll start a new distro but i don't like cp [01:47]
MJR_ i'm gonna make mine called rad or whatever [01:48]
dub its simpler to think of it like this: Some people use linux as a tool to accomplish their work, som use it because they are tools who don't have a job. [01:48]
MJR_ trolling multiple people with very little effort [01:48]
MJR_ if you are very good at linux...you don't have a job because you don't want one, or you are so annoying that no one can possibly work with you...at least in the US [01:50]
jurov well, in the beginning there was One Unix....errr no... there was actually sysv and bsd... [01:50]
MJR_ yeah [01:50]
MJR_ although sysV was first [01:50]
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MJR_ so you could say that in the beginning there was one [01:50]
jurov well.. and that one was horrible hack for decommissioned microcomputer [01:51]
MJR_ lol ywH [01:51]
jurov so everyone was like we must fix it [01:51]
MJR_ YEAH [01:51]
MJR_ yep...and i believe it was private...or was that the one before [01:52]
MJR_ and wasn't it for DEC hardware? [01:52]
unbalanced_ Bugpowder: just caught up. 80% haircut for "rich" Cypriots (a minority that won't march in the streets) and foreigners (EU/Russian retirees who saved all their lives but don't vote in Cyprus)... oh and Russian mafia, apparently [01:52]
unbalanced_ Easy out for politicians. And they wonder why suddenly normal citizens look at something like Bitcoin and say "Tell me more" [01:53]
mircea_popescu wait what ?! it ws 20% [01:53]
mircea_popescu now it's 80% ? [01:53]
jurov russian mafia = russian state enterprises. medvedev said loudly [01:53]
mircea_popescu yeah. [01:54]
unbalanced_ Cyprus Finance Minister: Uninsured Laiki Depositors Could Face 80% Haircut http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20130326-712516.html [01:54]
unbalanced_ Bugpowder was wondering why no one replied way above. [01:54]
mircea_popescu past this point it is irresponsible to keep wealth in banks/fiat. [01:55]
jurov even if not 80% , it will be paid years later.. so effectively 80% can be [01:55]
mircea_popescu you're way better off in ltc. [01:55]
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unbalanced_ Like the Cyprus "solution", Florida has something similar for foreigners who buy retirement homes: out-of-state owners of Florida property apparently pay higher property taxes than their neighbours. Because they can't vote. [01:57]
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mircea_popescu neway im off. take care all [01:59]
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mircea_popescu ;;ticker [08:10]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 83.74544, Best ask: 84.20000, Bid-ask spread: 0.45456, Last trade: 84.20000, 24 hour volume: 67420.00585510, 24 hour low: 75.00000, 24 hour high: 83.00001, 24 hour vwap: 78.64965 [08:10]
mircea_popescu o wow. [08:10]
Chaang-Noi yeah, nice to wake up to that [08:11]
Namworld Moving up... we better reach 100... [08:11]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.09644283 BTC [+] [08:11]
Chaang-Noi gox lag is 2 mins [08:11]
Chaang-Noi its active now [08:11]
mircea_popescu 100 seems quite likely tbh [08:11]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1 @ 0.11551977 BTC [+] [08:11]
Chaang-Noi yeah 100 is almost a sure thing now :/ [08:11]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 100 [08:12]
Namworld It has a nice sounding to it. [08:12]
gribble There are currently 20890.923 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 1975762.01088 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0018 seconds [08:12]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 99.999 [08:12]
gribble There are currently 19647.357 bitcoins offered at or under 99.999 USD, worth 1851405.41114 USD in total. | Data vintage: 4.9117 seconds [08:12]
Namworld There's just something to it. [08:12]
mircea_popescu yeah it's gone [08:12]
Namworld Like a 100 USD bill [08:12]
Chaang-Noi 2 million fiat, lol [08:12]
mircea_popescu 20k btc = nothing. [08:12]
toffoo what happened to ASICMINER's other 6TH? wasn't it supposed to be 12 TH in the first batch? [08:12]
Chaang-Noi order book on gox with bids showing is like 8 million fiat [08:12]
Chaang-Noi toffoo we dont know, but yes [08:12]
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Chaang-Noi they have had some issues but are not clear [08:13]
mircea_popescu toffoo the worst case scenario is that their chips keep blowing up [08:13]
Chaang-Noi what they are :? [08:13]
mircea_popescu and they're already using batch 2 chips. [08:13]
mircea_popescu otherwise, mystery. [08:13]
Chaang-Noi tehy dont have batch 2 chips yet, but they could ahve fucked 50% of batch one [08:13]
toffoo weird how they haven't addressed this pretty critical question [08:13]
Chaang-Noi they dont need more funding so why do they care? [08:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2409 @ 0.00448 = 10.7923 BTC [-] [08:14]
Chaang-Noi they dont care price of stock [08:14]
Chaang-Noi in it for the dividends [08:14]
mircea_popescu toffoo what can they say ? [08:14]
mircea_popescu originally their gear was going to be sent to upstanding community members for review [08:14]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [08:14]
mircea_popescu it's never happened and quietly dropped. [08:14]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 83.90001, Best ask: 83.95000, Bid-ask spread: 0.04999, Last trade: 83.95000, 24 hour volume: 69002.42552111, 24 hour low: 75.07009, 24 hour high: 84.39000, 24 hour vwap: 78.78080 [08:14]
mircea_popescu the only logical conclusion is there's something wrong with it. [08:14]
toffoo well I hate to jump to uninformed conclusions [08:15]
toffoo I thought it might have been mentioned in that monster forum thread, [08:15]
mircea_popescu this is not jumping to conclusions. this is the correct assumption process in business. [08:15]
toffoo but I figured I'd ask here before wading thru it [08:15]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.0996075 BTC [+] [08:15]
mircea_popescu somebody owes but doesn't pay the assumption is they're insolvent. [08:15]
mircea_popescu that sort of stuff. [08:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.699994 BTC [-] [08:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.699995 = 1.4 BTC [+] [08:17]
Chaang-Noi toffee friedcat has said networking problems [08:19]
Chaang-Noi toffoo* [08:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00062582 = 9.3873 BTC [+] [08:21]
toffoo where did he say that? [08:21]
mircea_popescu in the thread. [08:22]
toffoo I thought the networking problems when there was like 3-4 TH online [08:22]
mircea_popescu that's it. [08:22]
toffoo I don't think I've ever seen more than about 6 TH hashing [08:22]
mircea_popescu sounds about right. [08:22]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1 @ 0.11289001 BTC [-] [08:24]
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ThickAsThieves 6.5TH lately [08:25]
ThickAsThieves and i saw it spike at 6.75 once [08:25]
ThickAsThieves thats about it [08:25]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.09385556 BTC [-] [08:27]
ThickAsThieves ;;nethash [08:27]
gribble 51184.1173664 [08:27]
ThickAsThieves ;;estimate [08:27]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 6742223.56791 based on data since last change | 7150229.48926 based on data for last three days [08:27]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [08:29]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 82.51000, Best ask: 83.95000, Bid-ask spread: 1.44000, Last trade: 83.95000, 24 hour volume: 69655.64712248, 24 hour low: 75.07101, 24 hour high: 84.39000, 24 hour vwap: 78.82830 [08:29]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.699995 = 7 BTC [+] [08:34]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 1000 @ 0.2930763 = 293.0763 BTC [+] [08:36]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C630T] 1000 @ 0.26346639 = 263.4664 BTC [+] [08:36]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C650T] 1000 @ 0.2344069 = 234.4069 BTC [+] [08:36]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C670T] 1000 @ 0.20614959 = 206.1496 BTC [+] [08:36]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C690T] 1000 @ 0.17899591 = 178.9959 BTC [+] [08:36]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C710T] 1000 @ 0.15327667 = 153.2767 BTC [+] [08:36]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1 @ 0.11738822 BTC [+] [08:36]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 999 @ 0.12932122 = 129.1919 BTC [+] [08:36]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.09803797 BTC [+] [08:37]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 999 @ 0.10742235 = 107.3149 BTC [+] [08:37]
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Namworld time to buy calls [08:37]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1 @ 0.11786429 BTC [-] [08:39]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.09845581 BTC [-] [08:39]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.13 BTC [+] [08:39]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.7 = 4.9 BTC [+] [08:40]
Namworld lots of em [08:40]
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Namworld hmm, more calls to buy [08:40]
Chaang-Noi ;;bids 78.72 [08:41]
gribble There are currently 3087.7011 bitcoins demanded at or over 78.72 USD, worth 247621.614442 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0070 seconds [08:41]
Namworld ;;asks 85 [08:41]
gribble There are currently 2434.4015 bitcoins offered at or under 85.0 USD, worth 205945.63073 USD in total. | Data vintage: 8.3875 seconds [08:41]
Namworld ;;asks 100 [08:41]
gribble There are currently 21113.042 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 1990189.832 USD in total. | Data vintage: 16.7081 seconds [08:41]
Namworld Sounds good to me [08:42]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 1000 @ 0.29329496 = 293.295 BTC [+] [08:42]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C630T] 1000 @ 0.26368397 = 263.684 BTC [+] [08:42]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C650T] 1000 @ 0.23461956 = 234.6196 BTC [+] [08:42]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C670T] 1000 @ 0.20635286 = 206.3529 BTC [+] [08:42]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C690T] 1000 @ 0.17918507 = 179.1851 BTC [+] [08:42]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C710T] 1000 @ 0.1534473 = 153.4473 BTC [+] [08:42]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1000 @ 0.12946978 = 129.4698 BTC [+] [08:42]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.09599945 BTC [-] [08:42]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 999 @ 0.10754662 = 107.4391 BTC [+] [08:42]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.10754662 BTC [+] [08:43]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.09599945 BTC [-] [08:47]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 1000 @ 0.29351269 = 293.5127 BTC [+] [08:51]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1000 @ 0.10766303 = 107.663 BTC [+] [08:51]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1000 @ 0.12961161 = 129.6116 BTC [+] [08:51]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C710T] 1000 @ 0.15361245 = 153.6125 BTC [+] [08:51]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C690T] 1000 @ 0.17936998 = 179.37 BTC [+] [08:51]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C670T] 1000 @ 0.20655301 = 206.553 BTC [+] [08:51]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C650T] 1000 @ 0.23483005 = 234.8301 BTC [+] [08:51]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C630T] 1000 @ 0.26390011 = 263.9001 BTC [+] [08:51]
Namworld mircea_popescu... I think there's demand for more calls [08:53]
Chaang-Noi :) [08:53]
Chaang-Noi expecting moon shot well over 100 maybe [08:54]
mircea_popescu holy hell what happened here [08:54]
Chaang-Noi but these options end when? [08:54]
Namworld too soon [08:54]
Namworld but they have less of a premium too [08:54]
Namworld the closer to expiration date [08:54]
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Chaang-Noi i know but still [08:54]
Namworld They expire on the 29th [08:54]
mircea_popescu expire friday [08:55]
mircea_popescu then again traditionally options have been trading like crazy past few days of each month. [08:55]
mircea_popescu btc people just don't like the long term [08:55]
Chaang-Noi hmm, well if they expect 100 soon very soon then its a good deal [08:55]
mircea_popescu where long is anything over a week, in the sense tuesday to saturday is a week [08:55]
Namworld they're in the money if average moves like to 82-85 USD per BTC [08:56]
Namworld within 2 days [08:56]
Namworld then the more the better [08:56]
Chaang-Noi pretty safe bet [08:56]
Namworld if price doesn't move it's even/small loss [08:56]
Namworld if price go down it could hurt tho [08:56]
mircea_popescu ;;calc 63 / (1-.264) [08:56]
gribble 85.597826087 [08:56]
mircea_popescu the 63 ones need 85.6 like [08:56]
Chaang-Noi meh 5000 btc seems worth the risk here [08:57]
Namworld ;;calc 75 / (1-.107) [08:57]
gribble 83.9865621501 [08:57]
Namworld 75 needs 83.98 [08:57]
mircea_popescu yeah [08:57]
mircea_popescu so about there, 84-85 [08:57]
Namworld If price makes a sudden drop, executing them is always an option to cut losses. [08:57]
Namworld before average moves anyway [08:57]
Namworld Still... very risky [08:58]
mircea_popescu last week i was excited about goiing over 300k notional which was like 20mn [08:58]
Chaang-Noi i highly doubt we will see a drop [08:58]
Namworld options are usually in favor of the bot [08:58]
mircea_popescu now solidly over 400k, which is like 35mn [08:58]
Chaang-Noi bitcoinity wtf? [08:59]
Chaang-Noi the grandma of the cat in tyhe looney toons was tossing money into a fire? [09:00]
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Chaang-Noi anyone else see that? [09:00]
mircea_popescu the what ? [09:00]
Chaang-Noi a cartoon was showed on the page [09:00]
Namworld MPEx options bot ran out of funds it seems [09:01]
Chaang-Noi for like 5 seconds [09:01]
Namworld Well the asks/bids aren't for 1000 everywhere [09:01]
mircea_popescu Mtgox trading engine lag: 34.80s [09:01]
mircea_popescu bitcoinity is basically an engine of displaying how sucky mtgox is [09:01]
mircea_popescu Namworld prolly ran out of options. [09:02]
Chaang-Noi but there was a cartoon of a lady burning usd when we jumped about $2 [09:02]
Chaang-Noi lasted about 5 seconds [09:02]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 10 @ 0.00999 = 0.0999 BTC [+] [09:03]
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Namworld Well one last round of options to grab and it's gone [09:03]
Chaang-Noi ... [09:05]
Namworld 10k in BTC [09:05]
Chaang-Noi tiberslov is nigerian [09:06]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 987 @ 0.29418438 = 290.36 BTC [+] [09:06]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C690T] 995 @ 0.18001586 = 179.1158 BTC [+] [09:06]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C710T] 995 @ 0.15422494 = 153.4538 BTC [+] [09:06]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 955 @ 0.13017969 = 124.3216 BTC [+] [09:06]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 689 @ 0.10817751 = 74.5343 BTC [+] [09:06]
Namworld MPOE shares trade an average of 700k daily... [09:06]
Namworld Why? [09:07]
Namworld Why do you even claim that? [09:07]
Namworld What does that changes? [09:08]
Namworld They're around or on the forum everywhere =/ [09:09]
Namworld It's people with thousands of BTCs >.> [09:09]
Namworld No one with 1-2 BTC is on MPEx [09:09]
Namworld Brokers hardly represent a fraction of trades [09:10]
Namworld and SatoshiDice owner could certainly vouch funds he raised are actual... [09:10]
Namworld there's large traders around [09:11]
Namworld The large traders are hardly standing around all day in IRC. They don't even know about it. [09:13]
Namworld I have funds loaned to me. The big people are not on bitcointalk nor on IRC. [09:14]
Namworld I've never talked to them before receiving the BTC or anything. [09:15]
Namworld For any purpose I wish. Personal loan. [09:15]
mircea_popescu amusingly enough, large call buy put a top in the market. [09:16]
mircea_popescu im curious if that holds any. [09:16]
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mircea_popescu actually, i wonder how many people are doing the "sell 1k btc at mtgox, buy 1k worth of calls on MPEx" hedging thing. [09:17]
Namworld I'm one of the trader on MPEx. A few of the 1000s calls were my transactions. [09:17]
Namworld Bugpowder was probably responsible for a few others [09:17]
Namworld Most are just not going to come in IRC... [09:18]
mircea_popescu Namworld is this the tiberius kid going on ? [09:18]
Namworld Not sure why you'd expect that. The more funds people have, the less time they have to do things like have idle chatting in IRC. [09:19]
unlord how do I buy shares on MPEx [09:19]
Namworld Get an account. They cost 30 BTC tho =/ [09:19]
Namworld or go through a broker [09:20]
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unlord Namworld: is there a no load way to purchase? [09:21]
Namworld define "no load"? [09:21]
unlord Namworld: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/n/no-loadfund.asp [09:21]
Namworld No, not that I know of. [09:22]
unlord Namworld: 30 is too high a price to pay [09:22]
Namworld tiberius, I'm not sure why being Romanian is such an issue, other than the added risk legal recourse is not really an option. [09:23]
Namworld With that logic, no romanian cannot be a scammer... [09:25]
mircea_popescu unlord you missed that by abouyt a year [09:25]
mircea_popescu there were two such distributyions in march and april 2012. [09:25]
mircea_popescu shares sold for 9k satoshi (1mn) and 2.x k satoshi (4mn) [09:25]
mircea_popescu also, http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136436909249.png [09:26]
Chaang-Noi tiberslav is nigerian, he is juyst jelly of mps scamming skillz [09:26]
Namworld Well I must say he could stop posting NSFW links in an assets channel tho... [09:27]
mircea_popescu Namworld have you clicked it ? [09:27]
Namworld nope [09:27]
mircea_popescu the ONE TIME i actually post an on topic png [09:27]
unlord mircea_popescu: what did I miss? [09:27]
mircea_popescu unlord the no load thing. [09:27]
Chaang-Noi this really should be a sfw chan, if photo is not sfn just tell people [09:27]
unlord mircea_popescu: well I wasn't really into BTC back then [09:28]
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mircea_popescu anyway, you can prolly talk to a broker pay whatever they charge as a % fee [09:28]
Namworld yeah I'm not sure it's due to options [09:28]
Namworld But anyway [09:28]
mircea_popescu Namworld the coincidence is there. what's it due to we'll never know. [09:28]
mircea_popescu and peeps, stop hating on pron. the solution is to get the girls naked at your office, not to remove pron form the workspace. [09:29]
Namworld http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/ [09:29]
Namworld looking at last few days on hourly setting, I'd say it looks like normal variation [09:29]
unlord mircea_popescu: do shares have their own block-chain structure? [09:30]
mircea_popescu unlord nope. [09:30]
mircea_popescu Namworld the buying started around the peak (84.x) [09:30]
Chaang-Noi ltc back over .007 wow [09:30]
mircea_popescu it's not been over 84 since. [09:31]
unlord mircea_popescu: how do you demonstrate ownership? [09:31]
Uglux hmm price follows version number of bitcoin-qt ^^ [09:31]
mircea_popescu on mpex ? you get gpg signed receipts for trades / acct statements [09:32]
mircea_popescu do read the faq, it's informative. [09:32]
unlord mircea_popescu: thanks [09:32]
mircea_popescu Uglux haha that's a point. [09:32]
mircea_popescu 0.81 usd / btc here we go [09:32]
Chaang-Noi oh gox lag [09:39]
mircea_popescu and looks like it's back up. [09:40]
mircea_popescu net effect of like 25k notional ? 25 minutes worth of calm. [09:41]
mircea_popescu scary shit. [09:41]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 85 [09:41]
gribble There are currently 1362.753 bitcoins offered at or under 85.0 USD, worth 115519.937878 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds [09:41]
Chaang-Noi ath [09:41]
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mircea_popescu yup [09:41]
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Chaang-Noi once btc gets to $300 or so im going to antartic [09:42]
Chaang-Noi a [09:42]
Chaang-Noi going to see some pengiunz! [09:42]
mircea_popescu lol [09:42]
Chaang-Noi yeah, $300 is when my vacation fund gets = to anartica trip [09:43]
Chaang-Noi think satalite internetz will work down there? [09:44]
mircea_popescu yea [09:44]
toffoo Chaang-Noi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_New_Zealand_Flight_901 [09:44]
mircea_popescu well... i got meetings and shit. please don't break anything. [09:44]
Chaang-Noi lol meetings:) [09:44]
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Chaang-Noi toffoo lol 30 eyar old sigh seeuing trip [09:45]
Chaang-Noi i want to land and play in the fucking snow [09:45]
bgupta ;;ticker [09:45]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 83.96000, Best ask: 84.03865, Bid-ask spread: 0.07865, Last trade: 84.03865, 24 hour volume: 72686.59783658, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 84.50000, 24 hour vwap: 79.09585 [09:45]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 85 [09:46]
gribble There are currently 1390.7625 bitcoins offered at or under 85.0 USD, worth 117911.596115 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds [09:46]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 89.9 [09:46]
gribble There are currently 4093.0673 bitcoins offered at or under 89.9 USD, worth 355267.961904 USD in total. | Data vintage: 1.4320 seconds [09:46]
Uglux hm will there be an AM div today? [09:47]
Chaang-Noi there should be yes [09:47]
Chaang-Noi he said two this week [09:47]
Chaang-Noi we have 1 already [09:47]
bgupta Uglux yeah [09:47]
bgupta smallish one though [09:47]
bgupta since it's a) not a full week, and b) the first div to factor in all 400k shares. [09:48]
Chaang-Noi small for asicminer standards, a massive fucking div for wallstreet standards [09:48]
unlord what is AM? [09:48]
Chaang-Noi asicminer [09:49]
unlord ahh right [09:49]
bgupta Chaang-Noi: Sure... [09:49]
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unlord Chaang-Noi: they are not listed on mpex [09:49]
Chaang-Noi no one on wall street will give out .25% of thier company weekly [09:50]
Uglux I would rather like to see an update about that mysterious delayed +6TH, not hashing silently somewhere for someone else ^^ [09:50]
Chaang-Noi they are not listed [09:50]
Chaang-Noi however PTs on btct.co and bitfunder.com [09:50]
Chaang-Noi id like to see an update too [09:50]
mircea_popescu Uglux it's unlikely to be hashing anywhere, cause of total networkoutput [09:50]
unlord Chaang-Noi: how does one invest in them? [09:50]
bgupta however bear in mind.. most "wall street divs" are paid by stodgy companies, that have stable predictable earnings, so there is a premium paid for that so that the yield ends up being really low. [09:50]
Chaang-Noi but the pt at the linked sites or buy OTC on the tthreads i nthe forum at bitcointalk.org [09:50]
Chaang-Noi bgupta i hold one stock :) [09:51]
Chaang-Noi i hold gold and siklver for stability [09:51]
bgupta :) [09:51]
Chaang-Noi fuck wallstreet [09:51]
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unlord Chaang-Noi: I hold producing assets [09:51]
unlord fuck inert metals [09:52]
* bgupta so wishes I could move some of my 401k/IRA funds into btc economy.. [09:52]
Chaang-Noi i hold BTC/LTC/AM and then for my 10% shit hits the fan (gold and silver) [09:52]
unlord I like KO [09:52]
Chaang-Noi im not trying to make money off of gold and silver, im using it as a protection from inflation or other crazyness like ww3 [09:53]
Chaang-Noi no idea what KO is [09:53]
Chaang-Noi if you dont hold it you dont own it [09:53]
unlord tiberiusiv: they do? [09:53]
unlord I guess you know my finances then [09:54]
Namworld corp gets taxed then you [09:54]
Namworld the percent might be small but remember that product price and share price increase with inflation [09:55]
Namworld So I'm not sure about inflation's impact [09:55]
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unlord tiberiusiv: okay, so that last statement is just wrong [09:56]
unlord tiberiusiv: what are you using to measure inflation? [09:56]
unlord lol, I thought you just told me it hadn't moved in 20 years? [09:56]
unlord I assumed you knew the stock price then [09:57]
Namworld tiberius... do an average of the price [09:57]
Namworld http://static.seekingalpha.com/uploads/2010/2/26/saupload_02_26_ko_and_cce.jpg [09:57]
unlord okay, sure, but I didn't buy in 1998 [09:57]
Namworld It was higher in the 90s but overall, long term, it grows [09:57]
unlord I bought 12/23/2005 [09:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.7 = 4.2 BTC [+] [09:58]
bgupta are you guys factoring in KO dividends being reinvested in buying more KO shares? [09:59]
unlord bgupta: I am [09:59]
bgupta 2.8% currently [09:59]
bgupta beats a savings account [09:59]
unlord tiberiusiv: its expanding outside of the US at a crazy rate [09:59]
unlord tiberiusiv: per capita consumption is still pretty low outside the US [10:00]
unlord and there are a lot more people outside the US than inside [10:00]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 20 @ 0.6 = 12 BTC [+] [10:01]
Namworld yeah, which kinds of makes it safest, albeit near 0 return [10:01]
Namworld it beats holding fiats, compensates for inflation [10:01]
unlord tiberiusiv: since I bought KO, I'm up 150% factoring in dividend reinvestments [10:02]
unlord in 7 years [10:02]
unlord that has to beat whatever nominal inflation we've had [10:02]
unlord dude, did I insult you on here? [10:03]
unlord is this an investment channel or a speculation channel? [10:03]
unlord clearly [10:03]
unlord thanks for yer time [10:03]
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kakobrekla calm down kids. [10:05]
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Bowjob ;;ticker [10:09]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 85.30000, Best ask: 85.33531, Bid-ask spread: 0.03531, Last trade: 85.30000, 24 hour volume: 74342.86175279, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 85.30000, 24 hour vwap: 79.27222 [10:09]
bgupta so I am guessing next AM div will be just shy of 1 bitcent. [10:10]
kakobrekla says who [10:10]
kakobrekla you cant read chart [10:11]
kakobrekla standard deviation [10:11]
kakobrekla it means nothing [10:12]
kakobrekla close to zero [10:12]
kakobrekla can you stop pasting random charts [10:13]
kakobrekla thanks [10:13]
Namworld You infer the biggest things on every littlest changes/details in anything... what's up with that tiberius? [10:13]
kakobrekla tiberiusiv : http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR6lXlLwsYeUFIE9rStfgWpkUHkJNUKthG9nQJqVs5vAft1mjtE [10:13]
kakobrekla this one tells it all [10:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01451 BTC [-] [10:14]
bgupta http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/the-worlds-first-bitcoin-atm-to-dispense-cyprus-bills [10:14]
kakobrekla #bitcoin-speculation [10:15]
kakobrekla or something [10:15]
kakobrekla ok? [10:15]
bgupta I want to invest in the company making bitcoin atms. [10:16]
leotreasure me too [10:16]
leotreasure i sent them an email [10:16]
leotreasure haven't heard back from them yet [10:16]
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kakobrekla heya Enky [10:19]
Enky hi [10:19]
Bowjob ;;ticker [10:19]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 86.30643, Best ask: 86.97999, Bid-ask spread: 0.67356, Last trade: 86.30643, 24 hour volume: 75359.24546426, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 86.97748, 24 hour vwap: 79.38315 [10:19]
dub #bitcoin-analysis has some chart jockeys [10:19]
kakobrekla i have my personal chart jockey [10:20]
Bowjob 2 more days until ianbakewell's scam of truth [10:20]
Namworld eh... [10:21]
Namworld 600 BTC loaned to short them... [10:22]
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Namworld I loaned 280 BTC [10:22]
Namworld thank god I didn't short them... [10:22]
Bugpowder fastcash4bitcoins is out of funds [10:22]
Namworld They're doing well [10:22]
Namworld ;;ticker [10:22]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 86.40000, Best ask: 87.60000, Bid-ask spread: 1.20000, Last trade: 87.69990, 24 hour volume: 75777.12278574, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 87.70000, 24 hour vwap: 79.42575 [10:22]
Bugpowder mtgox hasn't credited my BTC deposit for 8 hours [10:22]
Namworld 87.70000 high [10:22]
Bugpowder argh [10:22]
kakobrekla Bugpowder fiat or btc [10:22]
Bugpowder btc [10:23]
Bowjob are there calls for sale? [10:23]
Namworld BTC [10:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.00449 = 0.0674 BTC [-] [10:23]
Namworld nope, no calls [10:23]
Bowjob dang [10:23]
kakobrekla i mean the fastcash4bitcoins [10:23]
Namworld I got like 1600 [10:23]
Namworld calls [10:23]
kakobrekla is he out of fiat or out of btc [10:23]
Bugpowder fastcash isout of fiat [10:23]
kakobrekla ah [10:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 7 @ 0.00458 = 0.0321 BTC [+] [10:23]
Bugpowder he may have just turned off the sales though [10:23]
Bugpowder I cashed out 100 [10:23]
Bugpowder and couldn't cash any more [10:23]
Namworld bugpowder: actually [10:24]
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Namworld there was like a set of options with less than 1000 put up [10:24]
Namworld then nothing [10:24]
Namworld I think it's just out of funds. [10:25]
Bugpowder there are options [10:25]
Bugpowder but some strikes are sold out [10:25]
Namworld look the asks, they're not 1000s stacks [10:25]
Namworld and some have been sold out for a while [10:25]
Namworld Some are a few hundres or less [10:25]
Namworld Out of funds [10:25]
Namworld Too much calls bought [10:26]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 18 @ 0.00459 = 0.0826 BTC [+] [10:26]
Bugpowder Yah 610s-750s are sold out [10:26]
Bugpowder "Thank you for your email. It appears that due to network congestion there is a Lag and this should be rectified in the next 24hrs and we will keep you updated on the status and we apologize for the inconvenience that this may have caused. Let us know if you would require any further assistance regarding this issue." [10:26]
Bugpowder well at least they sent an email reply in < 5 minutes [10:27]
Bugpowder even if the answer is bullshit [10:27]
Bugpowder I'm starting to think 100 is in play this week [10:27]
Bowjob triple digits eh [10:29]
Bowjob or move to single digits again [10:29]
Bowjob 0.01 = 1 [10:29]
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Bugpowder how much of this price rise is due to "network lag" at mtgox deposits. [10:30]
toffoo probably most of it [10:30]
toffoo what's the price gonna do if deposits aren't credited? [10:30]
Bugpowder rise until they are [10:30]
Bugpowder then flashcrash [10:31]
toffoo exactly [10:31]
Bugpowder then bounce [10:31]
Bugpowder mtgox is fucking great for volatility [10:31]
toffoo something breaks pretty much every day [10:31]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [+] [10:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.7 = 2.1 BTC [+] [10:32]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.09 BTC [-] [10:34]
toffoo heh .. nailed it [10:34]
Bugpowder funded [10:35]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C490N] 1 @ 0.54019864 BTC [+] [10:36]
Bugpowder getting eaten [10:37]
Bugpowder so funny [10:38]
leotreasure it was mee [10:38]
Bugpowder it sits there for 60 confirms [10:38]
leotreasure can anyone tell me what the breakeven price for those options are? [10:38]
Bugpowder which ones? [10:38]
leotreasure i thought i worked it out to be around $93 but not sure [10:38]
leotreasure O.BTCUSD.C490N [10:38]
Bugpowder ;;calc (93-49)/93 [10:39]
gribble 0.47311827957 [10:39]
Bugpowder ;;calc (104-49)/104 [10:39]
gribble 0.528846153846 [10:39]
Bugpowder ;;calc (106-49)/106 [10:39]
gribble 0.537735849057 [10:39]
Bugpowder About $107 [10:39]
leotreasure oh ok [10:40]
leotreasure thanks [10:40]
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error4733 !last h vtx [10:40]
assbot Last trade for VTX on HAVELOCK was at 0.6 BTC [+] [10:40]
error4733 !last m s.dice [10:41]
assbot Last trade for S.DICE on MPEX was at 0.00448 BTC [-] [10:41]
error4733 ;;ticker [10:41]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 85.00013, Best ask: 85.03269, Bid-ask spread: 0.03256, Last trade: 85.50000, 24 hour volume: 76866.50921262, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 87.70000, 24 hour vwap: 79.54180 [10:41]
Bowjob ;;ticker [10:41]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 85.00013, Best ask: 85.03269, Bid-ask spread: 0.03256, Last trade: 85.50000, 24 hour volume: 76866.50921262, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 87.70000, 24 hour vwap: 79.54180 [10:41]
Bowjob ;;goxlag [10:41]
gribble 42.979658 seconds [10:41]
Bowjob there we go [10:41]
error4733 panic buy :/ [10:42]
Bugpowder 64 coins left [10:44]
Bugpowder all gone! [10:44]
Bugpowder ok [10:44]
Bugpowder now I can buy my Tesla [10:44]
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Bugpowder or A7/S7 [10:45]
Bowjob dump [10:45]
Bugpowder Thank you bitcoin! [10:45]
Bowjob someone dumped to 84.50 [10:45]
Bugpowder It's gonna dump more right now [10:45]
Bowjob ur dumping? [10:45]
Bugpowder no I'm out of coins on gox again [10:46]
Bugpowder just dropped 300 [10:46]
Namworld oh lol, that was you [10:46]
Bugpowder but there was a BTC funding lag of 8 hours for me [10:46]
Bowjob buy back at 90 [10:46]
Bugpowder maybe they are clearing the pipe for everyone [10:46]
Bugpowder I'm not buying [10:46]
Bowjob so you're odne with btc? [10:47]
Bugpowder hell no! [10:47]
Bugpowder why buy btc when you can buy calls? [10:47]
Bugpowder :-P [10:47]
Bowjob dump [10:48]
Bowjob 84 [10:48]
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Bugpowder glad I got up to check my shit [10:52]
Bugpowder in the middle of the night [10:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7132 @ 0.00061483 = 4.385 BTC [-] [10:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00060977 = 4.9391 BTC [-] [10:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00060523 = 0.6052 BTC [-] [10:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00060101 = 9.0152 BTC [-] [10:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10944 @ 0.00060001 = 6.5665 BTC [-] [10:53]
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Namworld it's moving back up tho [10:55]
Bowjob i guess [10:57]
Bowjob i wonder whats thew price in a week [10:58]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C630T] 10 @ 0.27399999 = 2.74 BTC [+] [11:00]
Bowjob its 90 dollars on canadian bitcoins [11:01]
Bowjob hehe [11:01]
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Bugpowder mpoe bondholders are going to get slaughtered [11:02]
Bugpowder mpoe will be fine [11:02]
Bugpowder unless this makes future bondholders skittish [11:03]
Bugpowder this rally is so freaking strong [11:03]
Bugpowder you mean mpex [11:03]
Bugpowder nah [11:04]
Bugpowder you underestimate the tenacity of mp [11:04]
Bugpowder its a superior platform [11:04]
Bugpowder Not interested in wasting sleep explaining it [11:05]
Bugpowder later dudes. [11:05]
Bugpowder $$$ [11:05]
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Namworld others tried but were not allowed... [11:08]
Namworld BitVPS was... SatoshiDice was... [11:08]
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Bowjob I have a friend who bought on march 10.. 3 BFL singles [11:09]
Bowjob I just told him cancel his BFL orders, they seem scammy as fuck [11:09]
Bowjob did I do good? [11:09]
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Bowjob or am i depriving him of riches [11:10]
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Bowjob http://betsofbitco.in/item?id=470 [11:12]
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Bowjob yes.. yes of course. even if bfl ships, the backlog is insane [11:20]
Bowjob that he'll get his, idk. 9 months from now [11:21]
Bowjob and im being generous [11:21]
Bowjob in other news [11:22]
Bowjob http://imgur.com/u3znNg8 [11:22]
Bowjob silver gets a smack in the face [11:22]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.474998 = 1.9 BTC [+] [11:39]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.4749996 = 1.9 BTC [+] [11:39]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.19 = 2.38 BTC [+] [11:44]
Bowjob http://i.imgur.com/dXhjpHk.jpg [11:44]
Bowjob great dog story [11:45]
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jurov hi all...coinbr really shows different options prices, will dig it [11:46]
jurov Namworld so BitVPS "tried but not allowed" to list on mpex, orly ???? [11:49]
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jurov or what did you mean? [11:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.475 = 0.95 BTC [+] [11:50]
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Namworld BitVPS was allowed... [11:52]
Namworld [05:08] BitVPS was... SatoshiDice was... [11:53]
Namworld Both were on MPEx [11:53]
Namworld Now only S.DICE remains [11:53]
bgupta http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2013/3/27/technology/bitcoin-gains-cyprus-pain [11:59]
saulimus correlation != causation ... [11:59]
Namworld Thank you [12:00]
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bgupta saulimus: Are you saying that eurowoes have no impact on btc/fiat ratios? (Or where you talkign to someone else?) [12:02]
bgupta I will say that there is a storm of press coming on btc.. http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/03/26/a-short-guide-to-understanding-bitcoins.aspx [12:03]
Bowjob "The main concern I have with Bitcoins is it's potential ability to be hacked (and then counterfeited). If this did occur, then the value of Bitcoins would ultimately become zero, Read more: http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2013/3/27/technology/bitcoin-gains-cyprus-pain#ixzz2OjVtRtDJ" [12:04]
Bowjob damn [12:04]
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error4733 still 5000 waiting for MT gox confirmation [12:06]
error4733 100$ buy friday ? [12:07]
error4733 +10$ the last 24h [12:07]
saulimus bgupta, I'm saying it's more probable that the price of bitcoin would've risen the same way had the cyprus situation not happened. articles like that make it seem like it's the only reason... because it's the writer's job to find interesting connections. [12:07]
error4733 FINCEN effect, more than Cyprus imo [12:08]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [+] [12:10]
Chaang-Noi so i go afk for an hour and we go over 87.7 lol [12:10]
Chaang-Noi bids and asks are thin [12:10]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.7 = 3.5 BTC [+] [12:15]
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Chaang-Noi bgupta w3ashington post did a good one too [12:22]
Chaang-Noi yeah people are saying cyprus but its not... its FINCEN for sure [12:22]
Chaang-Noi but who cares, people going to just expect btc to go way up everytime a bank fail so that if okay with me [12:23]
Chaang-Noi should happen every other mopnth in europe alone [12:23]
bgupta It's a combination of things creating a feedback loop… [12:23]
Chaang-Noi yeah and that is why i love btc [12:24]
Chaang-Noi only 21 million evar and everyone wants them all [12:24]
Chaang-Noi muhahahahahaha [12:24]
bgupta The one question I have is if some large entity, gov't or financial, decided to bet against bitcoin, how effective could they be? I mean are there enough available for loan to really do a big short? [12:24]
Chaang-Noi bet against? lol no, maybe attack [12:25]
bgupta well.. in traditional markets selling short is selling.. and can stompt out any rallies, if a large enough position is taken. [12:26]
bgupta ?? I can't find many merchants that take litecoin? [12:28]
Chaang-Noi tiberslav oh lol [12:28]
Bowjob ever the pessimist [12:28]
Bowjob you can get run over by a bus too tomorrow [12:28]
Chaang-Noi tiberslav is just sad he only has .24 btc he scammed in nigeria [12:29]
Chaang-Noi i hold 100k ltc so good [12:29]
Bowjob tiber [12:29]
Bowjob how much btc do u have [12:29]
Bowjob and at what price did you sell at [12:29]
Bowjob lol [12:30]
Bowjob xd [12:30]
Chaang-Noi hahahahhahahhaha lol [12:30]
Chaang-Noi hahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhahahahahahaahahah my fucking sides [12:30]
Bowjob oh god. [12:30]
Bowjob lol [12:30]
Bowjob proof? [12:30]
Chaang-Noi tiberslav no one in their right mind would think you had more than 2 btc [12:30]
Bowjob lol [12:31]
Bowjob look dude you are trading pennies for dollars [12:31]
Bowjob get in now, it hurts but you must accept the fact [12:31]
Bowjob you will thank me later [12:31]
Bowjob you will wish you bought $100 worth at 90 dollars per btc [12:31]
Chaang-Noi tiberslav tiverslav you made me laugh outlouad so hard everyone is looking at me like im nuts now [12:31]
Bowjob look its okay if you sold [12:32]
Bowjob you can get in now :) [12:32]
Bowjob still cheap [12:32]
* Bowjob meow [12:33]
Bowjob chang [12:33]
Bowjob oh well [12:34]
bgupta I'm thinking this run of publicity has a bit more legs in it.. however.. not a bad strategy… I sold most ages ago… but kept a few just in case of events like this happening. (fiat woes) It's the same reason I have some gold coins in my safety deposit box. [12:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.475 = 1.425 BTC [+] [12:35]
Bowjob ;;ticker [12:35]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 85.96112, Best ask: 86.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03888, Last trade: 86.00000, 24 hour volume: 76550.92089328, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 87.70000, 24 hour vwap: 80.04172 [12:35]
bgupta well you have a 50% shot at being right. :) [12:36]
Bowjob bgupta thats not how it works [12:36]
Bowjob lol [12:36]
* bgupta wonders if there is any short squeezage going on with some of this rally. (IE: Cyprus news + FEDREGs catching people of guard) [12:37]
bgupta off guard [12:37]
bgupta really, I thought mpex allowed that for some reason? [12:38]
bgupta ohh.. [12:38]
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bgupta a lot is becoming clearer. [12:39]
bgupta I assumed that by now shorting would have become a regular part of the economy.. [12:39]
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bgupta It's not really shorting if you can't borrow stuff and dump it. [12:40]
bgupta got it.. need to think if options could have any impact on that… what about futures contracts? DO we have those? [12:41]
bgupta swaps and such? [12:41]
bgupta well that's only an issue due to spreads, right? [12:45]
bgupta if you are patient.. you should be able to move in and out, without such a spread no? [12:46]
bgupta ah I see your point. [12:46]
bgupta it's for the large $$$ transactions that kill you. [12:47]
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bgupta but also 95% of the community aren't rushing for the exits.. the things that really shook the price back in the day where theives stealing wallets and dumping them for fiat. [12:48]
bgupta tiberiusiv: depending on who they are, would determine whether that is a good thing or a bad thing. [12:49]
bgupta unfortuantely we have no way of knowing [12:49]
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bgupta I understand that problem. [12:49]
bgupta yeah.. [12:50]
error4733 they are speculator in BTC land, at some point they will cash out ! no dout [12:50]
bgupta there are speculators in every land [12:50]
bgupta brb [12:51]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34999 BTC [+] [12:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [+] [12:56]
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bgupta so I had a theory back in the day.. that there are a large amount of coins held by a handful of folks who are acting as guardians of the btc economy… [12:59]
bgupta I suspected that as the price went up they would slowly move some of their holdings into fiat, to be able to buy on any major pullbacks.. (That's what I would do if I was a creator of this currency.) [12:59]
bgupta they wouldn't have had to sell off much to act as market makers.. [13:01]
jurov yes, there are whales. but would they use mpex for hedging or sdice for fun? never! (at least according to our tibby) [13:01]
bgupta tibby? [13:01]
jurov i know what happens on coinbr and that they *do* use mpex [13:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 69 @ 0.7 = 48.3 BTC [+] [13:02]
jurov just don't give a fuck about convicing some kid [13:02]
Namworld So your balance is like 10k+ or something? [13:03]
Namworld (catching up on the log) [13:04]
Bowjob i think tiber is just a troll [13:04]
Bowjob don't feed him [13:04]
jurov lol tibby completely misunderstood me [13:04]
Namworld I thought feeding a troll was getting angry/pissed, since it gives a troll's statisfaction? [13:05]
Bowjob nah, giving them attention is enough for tiber [13:05]
Namworld Bowjob is all-in bullish as far as I know. [13:05]
jurov my word on whole mpex issue is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102333.msg1665040#msg1665040 [13:05]
jurov i'm not gonna repeat it [13:05]
Bowjob nah, i still have plenty of fiat [13:06]
bgupta hey, I can't claim to know what btc is gonna do… I have a very small position that I plan to keep in the btc economy.. [13:06]
bgupta my goal is to get more btc than I had before. [13:07]
Namworld I actually took a credit to buy BTC at 5 USD/BTC [13:07]
bgupta (Without converting any fiat into btc) [13:07]
Namworld Although only a few thousands, nothing I wouldn't have been able to repaid. [13:07]
Namworld SatoshiDice is a sure way to lose [13:08]
bgupta I don't have a lot of btc, so my trades can easily be absorbed by the market. [13:09]
Namworld I'm worried about people putting their life savings/maxing credit into Bitcoins at current prices... right after such a steep rise. [13:09]
saulimus I'm afraid to buy as well [13:09]
Bowjob tiber you're recomending "proper bet sizing".. [13:09]
Bowjob you're retarded [13:09]
Namworld Every time I put a few BTC on satoshidice, it's been a lost. Just for fun. [13:09]
Namworld I've pulled out great profit trading instead however [13:09]
Namworld (Havelock, BTCT.co, MPEx, Bitfunder, MtGox) [13:10]
jurov bgupta, if you want moar btc,don't exchange. earn them [13:10]
bgupta earn them? [13:10]
Bowjob bgupta you will lose at dice [13:10]
jurov there IS a bitcoin economy, just it's not so advertised and force fed like real one [13:10]
bgupta Don't worry.. I am not gonna be playing dice. [13:10]
jurov or program or graphics. or alpaca soicks [13:11]
jurov or swiss chocolate [13:11]
jurov find ur niche [13:11]
Namworld You can sell services of all sorts... does the work too [13:11]
jurov tiberiusiv maybe. but swiss chocolate for btcs DOES sell quite well and that matters. [13:11]
bgupta of you are talking darknet.. I think a good side business would be a paper currency moneychanger. [13:11]
bgupta I know people are looking to get btc without dealing with the exchanges.. [13:12]
jurov 1. goto bitcointalk [13:12]
jurov 2. search cocolate [13:12]
bgupta what they do with the btc, I can only imagine.. ;) [13:12]
jurov tiberiusiv you're not the only one who can say just google it, ya know [13:13]
Namworld We don't have link off the top of our head for everything, silly you. There's hundreds of BTC businesses. [13:13]
jurov tiberiusiv now *this* needs a link [13:14]
jurov or it's just FUD [13:14]
bgupta tiberiusiv: which forum in particular? [13:15]
jurov ofc. if they used fiat, they'd have the saem problem to aluder it [13:15]
bgupta err.. there are like 20 fourms [13:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009994 BTC [+] [13:15]
Namworld on that one, I'd be with tiberius... cashing out must be harder for dealers. Cash can come in fast. Cashing out without going through an exchange can be hard. [13:15]
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Namworld If they want to avoid linking a bank account... [13:16]
jurov once they want to convert thousands of btcs it's exactly the same issue [13:16]
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Namworld (Assuming they don't trust SR itself) [13:16]
Namworld No, I disagree with a lot of what you say so... [13:16]
jurov tiberiusiv i don't know why you care so much to SR [13:17]
jurov my business is legit, i don't have a problem providing id to bitcoin-central and cashing out at price consistently few euros above market [13:17]
jurov and report the earnigns to be taxed [13:18]
jurov what liquidity do you need? [13:18]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 21 @ 0.7 = 14.7 BTC [+] [13:18]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 14 @ 0.7 = 9.8 BTC [+] [13:18]
jurov for converting few hundred euros to live off every while it has ample liquidity [13:19]
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jurov i don't need move thousands of btcs like these poor silkroaders [13:19]
Namworld hmm... slight wall building up at 86 USD per BTC... price approaching all time high again [13:19]
jurov yes, slovakia [13:19]
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jurov lol [13:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.7 = 4.2 BTC [+] [13:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.715 BTC [+] [13:21]
jurov nobody scammed you? [13:21]
jurov they were all around yurp before wwii [13:22]
jurov they just got wiped out elsewhere [13:22]
jurov and in recent decades they breed much faster than "whites"... so slovakia will prolly become a gypsy country soon [13:23]
Diablo-D3 lol [13:24]
Diablo-D3 another person who thinks gypsy is a race and not a mythological creature [13:24]
jurov were you eating at restaurants? cuz slovaks don't give a shit about services [13:24]
jurov Diablo-D3: how do you call these chocolate people then? roma? [13:24]
Diablo-D3 dude, if they're _chocolate_ I call them african [13:25]
Diablo-D3 unless they're some of those really dark indians [13:25]
jurov 1. these gypsies look like indians 2. they speak like indians 3. wtf are they then? [13:25]
jurov cuz i'm registered entrepreneur (even VAT registered). so they have a right to look into my accts anytime [13:28]
Chaang-Noi am going up:) [13:28]
Chaang-Noi nice [13:28]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [13:29]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.00000, Best ask: 87.16999, Bid-ask spread: 0.16999, Last trade: 87.00000, 24 hour volume: 76848.95819924, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 87.70000, 24 hour vwap: 80.37796 [13:29]
ThickAsThieves nice! [13:29]
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Diablo-D3 jurov: speaking indian isn't a useful description [13:32]
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Diablo-D3 there is something like 5 major languages spoken on the indian subcontinent [13:32]
Diablo-D3 but if they look like indians and speak an indian language, they might be, you know, indians [13:32]
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Chaang-Noi i can speak a bit of charakee [13:33]
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Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: indian from india dude [13:33]
jurov they are some lowest indian caste that got expelled in 12th century. [13:33]
jurov and they call themselves gysies or rome [13:33]
Diablo-D3 and its spelled Cherokee [13:33]
jurov *roma [13:33]
jurov roaming around eur since then [13:34]
Diablo-D3 jurov: Ive never seen a "gypsy" that looks indian [13:34]
bgupta http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romani_people guys read first para [13:34]
jurov http://www.aktuality.sk/clanok/217087/obcania-protestovali-proti-stahovaniu-romov-z-letanovskej-osady/ [13:34]
jurov ^ slovak roma seen here [13:35]
Chaang-Noi D3 i just trollin:) [13:35]
jurov if they don't resemble indians, then dunno [13:35]
bgupta "The Romani are an ethnic group living mostly in Europe, who have been traced genetically to a group migrating from the northwestern Indian Subcontinent about 1,500 years ago." [13:36]
Chaang-Noi i was in india, in kashmire and they have people with blue eyes and light skin [13:36]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: probably ex-nazis from ww2 [13:36]
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Chaang-Noi hungarians are from north west china... from 2000 years ago [13:36]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: hell, thats nothing new [13:37]
Chaang-Noi d3 lol no, there is a group in afghan/packastian/india that came from alaxander the great when he came down 2500 eyars ago [13:37]
Diablo-D3 one of the 12 kinds of chinese seems to be descended by a bunch of romans that followed the silk road the whole way dow [13:37]
Chaang-Noi they be musliumz mostly now [13:37]
Chaang-Noi no roman in recorded history ever made it to china [13:38]
Chaang-Noi or chinese to rome [13:38]
Chaang-Noi not saying it did not happen but no one wrote about it, that survives [13:38]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: they have roman artifacts, but they're not sure if the artifacts alone made it [13:38]
Chaang-Noi im a history dude way more than anything else:) [13:38]
Chaang-Noi rome did trade with china [13:38]
Diablo-D3 and I forgot about alexander the great, btw [13:39]
Chaang-Noi he is my nigger! [13:39]
Diablo-D3 dude, he is nobody's nigger [13:39]
Diablo-D3 hes more made up than anything else [13:39]
Chaang-Noi got to india, saw a line of elephants and was like... ummm, lets go home [13:39]
Chaang-Noi alaxander is just like santa clause, tricks we play on history 101 students [13:40]
Chaang-Noi we all know he is a made up guy [13:40]
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jurov brb [13:41]
Diablo-D3 I mean, fuck, he had an empire that spanned from greece to india [13:41]
Diablo-D3 thats just impossible. [13:41]
Chaang-Noi he did not really have an emipre... he just raped everything he came to until india... he also took over the empires in his way leaving most of the govt there, just killing the kinds and marrying the exwifes [13:42]
Chaang-Noi tiberslave the 7th pope [13:42]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: yeah, pretty much [13:43]
Chaang-Noi d3 if you know how he did it, it is very reasonable [13:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00415005 = 4.1501 BTC [-] [13:43]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00415004 = 4.15 BTC [-] [13:43]
Chaang-Noi he just kept adding to his army as he beat other ones, sooner or later the other guys just sureendered [13:43]
Diablo-D3 but its pretty much embedded into every white guy now: fear anyone from greece that has an army of macedonians behind them [13:43]
Chaang-Noi but once he got to india he got an army of like all of india, with massive elehpants and shit [13:43]
Chaang-Noi 95% of his army at the end was not macidonian [13:44]
Bowjob https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=159462.0 [13:44]
Diablo-D3 you missed the point [13:44]
Chaang-Noi also he was not greek, [13:44]
Bowjob chang, check it [13:44]
Bowjob still not sure if its a good idea or not [13:44]
Bowjob mhm [13:44]
Chaang-Noi using paypal? might be a good idea? hahahahha [13:44]
Chaang-Noi fuck banks and esp fuck paypal [13:44]
Bowjob no dude you're missing the point [13:45]
Bowjob lol [13:45]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00415003 = 4.15 BTC [-] [13:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 835 @ 0.00415001 = 3.4653 BTC [-] [13:45]
Chaang-Noi i see paypal and brian shuts down, fuck paypal man [13:45]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: yes, but macedonia no longer exists [13:46]
Bowjob brian [13:46]
Bowjob lol [13:46]
Diablo-D3 get a brian moran [13:47]
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Chaang-Noi :) [13:47]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.714995 = 7.15 BTC [-] [13:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.715 BTC [+] [13:53]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-] [13:54]
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assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.107499 BTC [+] [14:00]
assbot [BTCTC] [GOLD] 1 @ 0.1922 BTC [-] [14:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 15 @ 0.00414 = 0.0621 BTC [-] [14:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 110 @ 0.00413 = 0.4543 BTC [-] [14:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 54 @ 0.00412 = 0.2225 BTC [-] [14:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.6986 = 1.3972 BTC [-] [14:05]
Bowjob Eurozone Chief: Savings accounts in Spain, Italy and other European countries will be raided if needed [14:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.19257 BTC [-] [14:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [CRYPTO-TRADE] 1 @ 0.1925 BTC [-] [14:06]
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Bowjob ;;tocler [14:12]
gribble Error: "tocler" is not a valid command. [14:12]
Bowjob ;;ticker [14:12]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 85.63544, Best ask: 85.65000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01456, Last trade: 85.65000, 24 hour volume: 77073.18838681, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 87.70000, 24 hour vwap: 80.52340 [14:12]
Bowjob ;;goxlag [14:12]
gribble 13.583927 seconds [14:12]
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Bugpowder ;;bids 0 [14:14]
gribble There are currently 36640973 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9691361.22066 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0182 seconds [14:14]
Bugpowder still going up [14:14]
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bgupta lag or price? [14:14]
Bugpowder total USD in bids [14:15]
Bugpowder a proxy for the amount of money sittingn in gox accounts [14:15]
Bugpowder that has not be used yet [14:15]
Bugpowder I have never seen it this high. [14:15]
Bugpowder 9$.7M [14:15]
Bugpowder $9.7M [14:15]
pizzaman1337 interesting idea [14:15]
pizzaman1337 ;;asks 100000000 [14:16]
gribble There are currently 47942.779 bitcoins offered at or under 100000000.0 USD, worth 363654447.184 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0028 seconds [14:16]
Bugpowder that is less informative [14:16]
Schadenfreude Anybody knows how often Jurov processes CoinBR withdrawals? [14:16]
kakobrekla 50k on gox lol [14:16]
pgp not often enough [14:16]
Bugpowder There is definitely more than 50k sitting in dark pools on gox [14:16]
pgp no automation for even the smallest withdrawls... [14:17]
Bugpowder although there may be an extra 10M USD in dark pools too [14:17]
Bugpowder pgp security or convienence, pick one. [14:17]
Chaang-Noi gox be playing wiht all the stolen bitcoinica money [14:17]
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Bugpowder !ticker m s.dice [14:18]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1D: 0.00415001 / 0.00440089 / 0.00449999 (16048 shares, 70.63 BTC), 7D: 0.00320003 / 0.0043828 / 0.005598 (277727 shares, 1,217.22 BTC), 30D: 0.00300001 / 0.0052747 / 0.0063799 (1198162 shares, 6,319.96 BTC) [14:18]
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Bugpowder fastcash funds are back [14:20]
Schadenfreude Meh, I already sign with a BTC-adress to withdraw from CoinBR, it's a bit annoying [14:21]
Bugpowder tru [14:22]
Schadenfreude Let's hope it gets through before the price correction# [14:22]
Bugpowder I don't think there will be a correction before friday [14:22]
Bugpowder the total gox bids keep going up [14:23]
Namworld *sigh* [14:23]
Bugpowder before the crash last friday, total gox bids dropped from 8.1M to 6.1M [14:23]
Namworld another BitVPS client which paid with a stolen Paypal account. [14:23]
kakobrekla cut yourself free of fiat money [14:24]
Bugpowder I sold off my calls for a 3x gain. Rebought at the bottom. [14:24]
MJR_ nice [14:24]
Bugpowder preach it brother [14:24]
MJR_ Bugpowder: i exercised at 71 :( [14:25]
Bugpowder Anyway.... watch the gox bids. I think it may be a leading indicator of corrections [14:25]
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Bugpowder MJR_: why did you exercise? [14:25]
Bowjob correction upwards? [14:25]
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Namworld Bugpowder: neat. Gains on a significant amount of BTC? [14:25]
deadweasel ;;bc,24hprc [14:26]
gribble 80.51 [14:26]
MJR_ man... [14:28]
MJR_ all the options are too expensive... [14:28]
MJR_ need some like 110 calls :( [14:28]
MJR_ hmmm [14:29]
Bugpowder Namworld: Had 10% of my nut in calls. they tripled. Sold... Rebought with the profits at the bottom of the weekend dip vwap. Best month ever. [14:29]
MJR_ that is an interesting metric Bugpowder [14:30]
MJR_ i'm kicking myself for exercising at 71 [14:30]
Bugpowder MJR_: I have not followed it for long enough to be sure, but worked last week. [14:30]
MJR_ even with s.dice performance, up 117% overall [14:30]
MJR_ speaking of which [14:30]
kakobrekla ;;bc,stats [14:30]
gribble Current Blocks: 228244 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 1579 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 17 hours, 47 minutes, and 45 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6742099.53802 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.69108 [14:30]
Bugpowder why did you exercise though? [14:30]
MJR_ is it a sure thing that we will not be seeing any dividends this month? [14:30]
kakobrekla we need more hash [14:31]
Bugpowder bot always pays more than exercise price [14:31]
Bugpowder due to time premium [14:31]
MJR_ figured that i had the vwap at 71 and it already dropped to 63 [14:31]
MJR_ so i could exercise then [14:31]
MJR_ but i didn't buy back in [14:31]
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Bugpowder but just sell back to the bot [14:31]
MJR_ he was offering less [14:31]
kakobrekla mining profitability is too high [14:31]
Bugpowder are you sure? [14:31]
Bugpowder I've never see the bot go lower [14:32]
MJR_ not sure, but i think so...i exercised from my cell phone as i was walking into a meeting [14:32]
Bugpowder unless bot is using mtgox vwap not 24hprc [14:32]
MJR_ i think the bot is aware of the mt gox price but not sure he uses it [14:32]
MJR_ because one time during the flash crash i got filled on a bunch of calls [14:32]
MJR_ we are bumping into the ceiling hard though [14:32]
MJR_ wonder what 100 calls would be for next month [14:33]
Namworld idk but we're raising fast [14:33]
Namworld http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/ [14:33]
MJR_ yep [14:33]
MJR_ 100 in april it looks like [14:33]
MJR_ if not more...i just think that is the second biggest psychological barrier [14:34]
MJR_ after the 32 [14:34]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.016 BTC [+] [14:34]
Namworld we're still full on on an exponential course [14:34]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01572 BTC [-] [14:34]
Namworld It's just crazy [14:34]
MJR_ that is a bit scary [14:34]
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MJR_ i decided to take my trading profits from yesterday and switch back to lending [14:34]
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Namworld I steer away from lending now... but you can loan to me. [14:35]
MJR_ pretty nice when you are trying to decide between 280% apy or 10% in one day trading [14:35]
pgp my guess is that we will be in for some volatility today... [14:35]
MJR_ lol, margin lending on bitfinex [14:35]
MJR_ i agree totally [14:35]
Namworld margin lending =/ [14:35]
MJR_ but my long overnight position worked well, though i got stopped loss and didn't get the top [14:35]
MJR_ tiberiusiv: you are so right, no one will remark on the fact that we hit triple digits [14:36]
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MJR_ tiberiusiv: just another day, there won't be articles saying that [14:36]
MJR_ ugh...i can't get sucked into your trollery today...sorry [14:36]
Namworld MJR, loan to me, I have plenty of collateral and I'm borrowing =P [14:36]
MJR_ Namworld: whats the interest? i think i already am lending to you through btc-bond [14:37]
Namworld yeah, BTC-BOND [14:37]
MJR_ i thought you were going to start calling some of those bonds? [14:37]
Namworld shares, a whole lot of them [14:37]
MJR_ btc bond is a great investment [14:37]
MJR_ i love daily interest [14:37]
Namworld in some businesses such as: www.satoshidice.com - www.bitcoinpride.com - www.bitvps.com and more [14:38]
Namworld I keep my debt at a fraction of my outstanding loan so it can mitigate the risk of something failing. [14:40]
Namworld Among other things. But the biggest earnings are from buying and flipping shares right back. There's some pretty big gaps in prices with illiquidity [14:42]
Namworld I try not to have my toes dipped in most things for too long. [14:42]
Namworld Basically, yes. [14:42]
Namworld BTC-BOND is me. [14:43]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [14:44]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 86.30101, Best ask: 86.74000, Bid-ask spread: 0.43899, Last trade: 86.74000, 24 hour volume: 75041.74738403, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 87.70000, 24 hour vwap: 80.66941 [14:44]
Namworld I pay 10.95% per year (0.03% daily) [14:47]
Namworld I suspect it's because I keep it at a fraction of my total worth and that I'm spread out among various exchanges and businesse types. Things could fail spectacularly and I'd still be able to repay all my debt. People like that. [14:48]
pgp ;;goxlag [14:48]
gribble 86.511175 seconds [14:48]
jurov it's not a problem to at all have such earnings from btc options [14:48]
Namworld And since I'm flipping shares in BTC, income is in BTC. [14:48]
jurov tiberiusiv, on NYSE if you figure out a strategy, there is 100ppl with same idea already [14:49]
Namworld Otherwise IDK why people would lend BTC at thos rate, they usually require multiple % per week on BTC loans. [14:49]
Namworld Hardly 1% per month. [14:49]
jurov here you're usually alone, and for long time [14:49]
jurov thanks to people like you that scream OMG ITS A SCAM [14:49]
Namworld Also, I'm not sure I'm fit for the NYSE. BTC is easier, more movement, larger spread, no competition. It's a good training ground at least. [14:50]
jurov in this case yes [14:50]
Namworld NYSE is more competitive. Less spreads too. [14:50]
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Bugpowder SPY options are too competitive [14:52]
jurov sry, if that "learning" would make me such a zealot like you are... no thanks :) [14:52]
Bugpowder you will get you face ripped off [14:52]
Namworld I had so many different assets in BTC, I was spending lots of time watching markets/refreshing pages. Income has grown. [14:52]
Bugpowder the bitcoin options market is much less efficient [14:52]
Namworld I've left my day job to have time to do all this trading. [14:52]
Namworld Some months ago [14:52]
Bugpowder Money is made by exploiting the inefficiencies of the market [14:52]
Chaang-Noi well bearz.... [14:53]
Namworld I've made a lot of put. I've been trying to go short since 30 USD/BTC [14:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.1075 = 0.9675 BTC [+] [14:53]
Namworld I've made losses there [14:53]
Bugpowder If you would look at the history, people have been net losers in the options every month but august [14:53]
jurov tiberiusiv, there were some whale bears that tried to move mkt down and cash out options.. but they failed [14:53]
Bugpowder this month looks like people are actually going to come out on top [14:53]
Namworld I still believe this is going to crash. I'll still have puts each month ready. [14:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.85 BTC [+] [14:54]
Namworld Anyway, I'm pretty much doing this full time by now... [14:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 10 @ 0.09 = 0.9 BTC [-] [14:54]
Bugpowder I lost plenty of money trading options in 2007-2009 [14:54]
Bugpowder btc market is 100x more exploitable [14:55]
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Bugpowder by someone with my resources [14:55]
Bugpowder long term options trading in real financial markets is a loser for the retail investor [14:55]
Bugpowder in btc options, I think it can be a winner [14:55]
Bugpowder at least for me. [14:55]
Bugpowder I agree with that statement [14:56]
deadweasel bug, if you were to buy an option right now, which one would you buy? [14:56]
Bugpowder particularly when the spread is 30% on the bot [14:56]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.714994 = 1.43 BTC [+] [14:56]
Bugpowder If the bot was still offfering C750Ts, I would buy them [14:56]
Bugpowder I would perhaps buy puts tomrrow [14:56]
MJR_ Bugpowder: they were pretty expensive [14:57]
deadweasel tiberiusiv: i would tend to agree, as I believe this is the ceiling for the day. [14:57]
Bugpowder If I were actaully going to buy anything though, I would do it [14:57]
Bugpowder instead of sitting here [14:57]
Bugpowder typing [14:57]
Bugpowder right now, I'm not buying or selling anything [14:57]
Bugpowder 90% of the time, the best trade is to do nothing [14:57]
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MJR_ hehehe, i decided to take a break from trading too...just lending now [14:57]
Namworld http://namcdn.com/btcalarm/ [14:57]
Namworld Use it, it's useful. Better on chrome tho, other browsers tend to drop websocket connection a lot more. [14:58]
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Bugpowder Actually, the best play right now looks to be buying S.MPOE [14:58]
Bugpowder maybe not actually [14:59]
Chaang-Noi wont they loss their ass on options this month? [14:59]
Bugpowder bbet is pretty funny [14:59]
Bugpowder well, its valued by the market [14:59]
Namworld Chaang-Noi: MPOE income comes from % on trading... [14:59]
Chaang-Noi oh [15:00]
Chaang-Noi then how could it be valued anywhere near what it is? [15:00]
Bugpowder if MPOE survives without a loss this month, it will bounce to 0.00075 [15:00]
kakobrekla is gonna be like 40 or 50 btc this month i think (estimate) [15:00]
Namworld The money for options is borrowed from people depositing for a % I believe [15:00]
kakobrekla slightly over 100$ [15:00]
kakobrekla ;) [15:00]
Bugpowder tiberiusiv: bbest valuation is based on growth expectations [15:00]
Namworld Those people are risking their funds for a % [15:00]
Bugpowder which at 200000 satoshi, are pretty aggressive [15:01]
MJR_ whats the oix at? [15:01]
jurov jurov i very much doubt that, whale to you is 100btc. <<< lol, now how did you came to that conclusion? [15:01]
Chaang-Noi i only hold AM :/ [15:01]
Bugpowder MPOE has paid out 1% on good months [15:01]
Chaang-Noi so in 100 good months they break even :) [15:01]
Bugpowder 5-10% [15:01]
Bugpowder MPOE bot pays 5-10% on capital used [15:02]
Bugpowder and makes 12% profit / month [15:02]
Bugpowder average [15:02]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 87.61 [15:02]
gribble There are currently 1452.6593 bitcoins offered at or under 87.61 USD, worth 126503.501188 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds [15:02]
Bugpowder yep [15:03]
Bugpowder its a nascent market [15:03]
jurov tiberiusiv ,BitVPS was quite profitable, too. [15:03]
Bugpowder yes [15:03]
Bugpowder it was valued pretty fairly too [15:04]
jurov but its owner suddenly got an idea it's better to get employed [15:04]
Bugpowder lol [15:04]
Chaang-Noi AM is not gambling :/ [15:04]
jurov tiberiusiv but most of fiat is gambling, too [15:04]
ThickAsThieves ;;bids 0 [15:04]
gribble There are currently 36656711 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9714666.78044 USD in total. | Data vintage: 119.6155 seconds [15:04]
jurov how much of money supply is ion forex? 90% [15:04]
jurov forex is the same thing. just considered legal. [15:05]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 89.80 [15:05]
gribble There are currently 4816.7931 bitcoins offered at or under 89.8 USD, worth 425118.737376 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds [15:05]
jurov oh tibby on limb again [15:05]
ThickAsThieves ;;bids 85 [15:05]
gribble There are currently 1053.2444 bitcoins demanded at or over 85.0 USD, worth 89853.9093844 USD in total. | Data vintage: 27.9878 seconds [15:05]
Bugpowder that's a pretty small % [15:06]
ThickAsThieves troll feeding time again? [15:06]
Bugpowder okcupid.com is now accepting bitcoins [15:06]
Bugpowder take that! [15:06]
ThickAsThieves on that news, btc falls to 50 [15:06]
jurov tiberiusiv yes and? drug scene in your city has more users that a bank, too [15:07]
jurov in btcland it is just more visible [15:07]
Bugpowder that is not true [15:07]
Bugpowder mtgox monthly is $100MM [15:08]
Bugpowder compare same month to same month [15:09]
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deadweasel so all T options expire on Friday. But their price is going to vary based on VWAP, which is going up every second I babble here.... [15:09]
Bugpowder SD has much more action than SR [15:10]
Chaang-Noi VWAP link to please [15:10]
jurov Chaang-Noi: http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/currencies/ [15:11]
jurov but SD has lot lower learning curve [15:11]
Chaang-Noi thanks jurov [15:11]
jurov not hassle with tor [15:11]
jurov and it's INSTANT [15:11]
Chaang-Noi they use the 24 hour? [15:12]
jurov ^ another myth yet to be proved [15:12]
jurov Chaang-Noi: yes MPOE uses that one [15:12]
Chaang-Noi thanks [15:12]
jurov okay, you made the sales pitch. so what are we to do with SR? [15:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.59 = 1.77 BTC [-] [15:14]
jurov phew. someone steals their wallet and they'll clamor to list quickly [15:14]
jurov as happened to many enterprises already [15:15]
jurov tiberiusiv but that has nothing to do with bitcoin [15:15]
Namworld tiberiusiv: what? People often sell a portion of profitable businesses [15:15]
jurov if paypal was anonymous, it would be used instead [15:15]
Namworld Wether because they need growth capital, are retiring or simply to reduce market exposure/risk. [15:16]
jurov or popular detergent will be used. whatever is at hand [15:16]
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deadweasel same with the banks [15:17]
deadweasel doesn't matter if it 'seems legit'. [15:18]
deadweasel so what's your point, tiberiusiv? [15:19]
Chaang-Noi yes [15:19]
Chaang-Noi that is why i bought in [15:19]
ThickAsThieves ugh I need to get rid of my day job [15:19]
Chaang-Noi once the mob learns about btc we will go to $100,000 tc [15:20]
Chaang-Noi btc [15:20]
deadweasel yeah, i can agree with you there -- going off the Internets history, it follows. [15:20]
Chaang-Noi i quit a year ago... [15:20]
deadweasel the mob knows [15:20]
ThickAsThieves my problem is i own the business [15:20]
deadweasel cartel knows [15:20]
deadweasel ThickAsThieves: Sell it for BTC! [15:20]
Chaang-Noi sell it for btc [15:20]
ThickAsThieves so i need to find ways to unload clients [15:20]
jurov tiberiusiv i agree too. but you aren't telling normal retailers what to do [15:20]
ThickAsThieves well these people know me, i have to make sure they are treated ok [15:20]
jurov if there's money, retailers will come [15:20]
ThickAsThieves its like 60 hosted websites, plus incidental updates [15:21]
ThickAsThieves then a bunch of graphic design work and print brokering [15:21]
deadweasel sell it to Namworld [15:21]
jurov you contradict yourself [15:21]
Chaang-Noi tiberslav lol you on meth? [15:21]
deadweasel lol [15:22]
ThickAsThieves namworld obv is busy [15:22]
jurov if "the cartels" are using it, then it's clearly more than a small group [15:22]
Namworld What? I'm not too busy for that. [15:22]
jurov and it's usefult to them to use bitcoins on all levels down to the street [15:22]
jurov hence mass adoption [15:23]
Namworld shared hosting? [15:23]
Chaang-Noi when btc reaches $10,000 im pretty srue im going to by my own cartel [15:23]
ThickAsThieves and webmastering [15:23]
jurov hence mass market [15:23]
Namworld I can do that, but what kind of rates are they used to? [15:23]
Namworld Actually, PM me. [15:23]
jurov tiberiusiv if it will be useful for them avoid hassle of exchanging the bills to bitcoins, they'll drop their customs quickly [15:24]
deadweasel ^^^^ [15:24]
splnkr ironic, isn't it…Mexicans want USD while a bunch of Americans prefer BTC [15:24]
deadweasel profit first, they get engineers to build half mile tunnels underneath the border, they will force Nerds to handle their BTC [15:25]
jurov then ID requirement will come quickly [15:25]
jurov shoulkd that happen [15:25]
jurov anyway, all the runners, that's a mass market already [15:26]
jurov and for them it's better to buy things directly for btc [15:26]
jurov than to go to walmart and risk doxing and being catched on camera [15:26]
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jurov well, don't tell this will stay so any extended period [15:27]
jurov no your point seems to be "retailers wont evar" [15:28]
jurov and i say, okay, if criminal element adopts it on mass scale, retilers will follow" [15:28]
Bugpowder false [15:29]
jurov "people will always spend fiat" Plainly not true. Not always at least. [15:30]
Bugpowder people will spend btc now because its an easy way to cashout [15:30]
jurov your crime elements do [15:31]
jurov and you yourself said they supposedly have problems to exchange it back [15:31]
splnkr it's good to be mindful of the risk of BTC going poof due to external factors, but I'm not that worried…woudln't it take a concerted, coordinated global effort to bring it all down permanently? I'm not talking 51% attack here [15:31]
jurov so these WILL use retail if available [15:31]
thestrin1puller ;;ticker [15:31]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 86.91001, Best ask: 86.99999, Bid-ask spread: 0.08998, Last trade: 87.00000, 24 hour volume: 74748.36316424, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 87.70000, 24 hour vwap: 80.81460 [15:31]
jurov tiberiusiv: simple logic, no? [15:31]
thestrin1puller ;;bc,24hprc [15:32]
gribble 80.79 [15:32]
splnkr and the world can't even properly discuss climate change; i don't see that they could execute a destruction of the bitcoin network [15:32]
Bugpowder anyone had trouble getting over 1 wire a day from fast cash. total >$10l [15:32]
Bugpowder >$10k [15:32]
Bugpowder tiberiusiv: what do you see as the right investment / speculative play in the btc space right now? [15:32]
thestrin1puller ;;calc (80.79 - 75) / 80.79 [15:32]
gribble 0.0716672855551 [15:32]
thestrin1puller woot! [15:32]
Bugpowder I am hearing a lot about what ISN'T good. What IS good. [15:32]
jurov don't lol. they can indeed launder some of the bitcoins disguised as t-shirt operation [15:33]
splnkr the best investment strategy is to tell people in IRC the opposite of what you believe to be true [15:33]
splnkr LOL [15:33]
MJR_ Bugpowder: it is way too hard to come up with something creative, let's just detract from the good that is going on [15:33]
MJR_ BitPay processed 2 Million dollars worth of transactions for VENDORS [15:34]
MJR_ just saying they are growing [15:34]
MJR_ vendors are slowly starting to accept them [15:34]
thestrin1puller Bugpowda your bet paid off [15:34]
MJR_ so that would be double [15:34]
thestrin1puller thanks for snatching those options fo may [15:35]
MJR_ yes...and doubled the payments processed [15:35]
MJR_ meaning more merchants are starting to get into this space [15:35]
MJR_ that is just one metric [15:35]
jurov it's clearly more than nothing [15:35]
MJR_ um... [15:35]
MJR_ do you not know how they work? [15:35]
MJR_ you set your price IN DOLLARS [15:35]
MJR_ they deal with conversion [15:36]
thestrin1puller lol [15:36]
MJR_ your company is doing so much better in this space [15:36]
thestrin1puller bfl is a joke [15:36]
MJR_ what was its name again? [15:36]
Bugpowder apples and oranges dude [15:36]
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Bugpowder The BTC retail space is < 6 months old [15:37]
MJR_ oh thats right, you haven't done one thing so far that is actually valuable to anyone in this community [15:37]
MJR_ so bitpay: 2 million tiberiusiv: 0 [15:37]
Bugpowder I bet bitpay growth is faster than paypal [15:37]
Chaang-Noi no doubt bitpay is faster [15:37]
jurov tibby has coinbr account.. so it's valuable for me :) [15:37]
Chaang-Noi tiberslav oh lol [15:37]
MJR_ how do i constantly get sucked in to these epic troll fests [15:37]
MJR_ got to learn to avoid them [15:38]
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deadweasel i was wondering that too MJR_ [15:38]
Chaang-Noi tiberslav is a funny troll [15:38]
thestrin1puller lol [15:38]
MJR_ has tiberiusiv done anything [15:38]
Chaang-Noi tiberslav is from nigeria and only has .35 btc:/ [15:38]
MJR_ fucking armchair quarterback [15:38]
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MJR_ so you start a payment processer, a gambling site, an exchange...do something [15:38]
MJR_ which is a new high in this space [15:39]
Chaang-Noi mr tiberslav too busy tolling and cashing in govt welfare checks to do anything productinv [15:39]
MJR_ 850 million is tiny compared to forex trading [15:39]
MJR_ apparently you don't undeerstand emerging markets AT ALL [15:39]
MJR_ tiberiusiv is the guy saying "why would anyone ever need internet on their phone" [15:39]
MJR_ "the personal computer is not really necessary" [15:40]
Diablo-D3 850 million dollars? [15:40]
jurov tiberiusiv, care do a bet on bitbet? [15:40]
Diablo-D3 that'd be enough to fix the united states =/ [15:40]
jurov like "bitpay will reach 100mil this year" [15:40]
jurov why not? [15:41]
MJR_ i can't... [15:41]
jurov what has bitpay to do with gpsy??? [15:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.586 = 2.93 BTC [-] [15:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 9 @ 0.585 = 5.265 BTC [-] [15:42]
thestrin1puller !ticker h HIM [15:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.65000000 / 1.772 / 1.85000000 (25 shares, 44.30000000 BTC), 7D: 1.41000000 / 1.78286455 / 2.00000000 (189 shares, 336.96140034 BTC), 30D: 1.40000000 / 2.09569993 / 18.00000000 (657 shares, 1376.87485269 BTC) [15:42]
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thestrin1puller wow [15:42]
jurov say yourself...whatever amount it won't cross [15:42]
kakobrekla btw is there a european bitpay? [15:42]
jurov there are some eu partners: https://bitpay.com/bitcoin-integration-partners [15:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.85 = 3.7 BTC [+] [15:45]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.585 = 2.925 BTC [-] [15:46]
MJR_ you know those vendors dont ONLY sell in bitcoins right? [15:46]
MJR_ hence emerging markets [15:46]
Namworld tiberius... there's more than a 0.99% fee for those converting to USD [15:46]
Namworld It's 3% AFAIK, I think. [15:46]
Namworld And disclosed [15:46]
MJR_ as more people switch to this alternate economy [15:46]
MJR_ they will grow [15:46]
Namworld 0.99% is for those keeping BTC [15:46]
MJR_ it seems like you have no concept of future valuation [15:46]
Bugpowder credit cards are 2.9% [15:47]
MJR_ first mover value [15:47]
MJR_ value of market share [15:47]
MJR_ look at gox [15:47]
MJR_ they suck [15:47]
Bugpowder the merchants disguise it though [15:47]
MJR_ raking in money cuz there first [15:47]
Namworld no, you pay back in USD [15:47]
Chaang-Noi wall at 87 is lasting... [15:47]
Chaang-Noi need usa to wake up? [15:47]
Namworld which is what people paid you... all vendors pay back in USD, almost [15:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.585 = 1.17 BTC [-] [15:48]
deadweasel not if they want to cash out [15:48]
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Namworld it's not an issue only with bitpay, it's an issue with all vendors [15:48]
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thestrin1puller !ticker m S.MPOE [15:48]
Namworld beside, works the other way around. If a refund is request after a price drop, more BTC [15:48]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00060001 / 0.00062529 / 0.00064816 (173321 shares, 108.38 BTC), 7D: 0.00060001 / 0.00068467 / 0.00077505 (2085337 shares, 1,427.77 BTC), 30D: 0.00060001 / 0.00073814 / 0.00078628 (17972130 shares, 13,266.12 BTC) [15:48]
MJR_ ah thats better [15:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 6 @ 0.57 = 3.42 BTC [-] [15:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.567 = 1.134 BTC [-] [15:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.567 = 1.701 BTC [-] [15:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.565 = 1.695 BTC [-] [15:49]
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unbalanced Bugpowder, congrats on the overnight trade. Well played. [15:49]
MJR_ i can't do this anymore...too distracting and fun getting trolled, but have work to do thank god for ignore [15:49]
Bugpowder unbalanced: thanks! not a trade till I close the position though :-0 I'll let the vwap get at least $5 higher first. [15:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.565 = 1.695 BTC [-] [15:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.554 = 4.432 BTC [-] [15:50]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2000 @ 0.00061253 = 1.2251 BTC [+] [15:50]
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unbalanced Oh I thought you closed it out. re: something you said yesterday, I'd pay to have you run my funds just from what I've seen here in a week [15:51]
unbalanced I want a Tesla too so Ifig I have to learn from someone who's doing it. [15:52]
deadweasel so this price boom is why the c750s when to .24999? [15:52]
Bugpowder The bot is sold out [15:52]
Bugpowder if you want to buy my C750s at .24999 though, you are welcome to them [15:52]
deadweasel i'm just looking on coinbr. [15:52]
thestrin1puller ;;seen smickles [15:52]
gribble smickles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 9 hours, 10 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: well, if you answer, please hilight me so i can find it easier :) [15:52]
Bugpowder unbalanced: Unfortunately I don't think running a fund is actually legal [15:52]
Bugpowder unless registered etc. [15:53]
deadweasel Bugpowder, I don't know any better, just trying to wrap my pea brain around it before I started trading options [15:53]
Bugpowder so I'd like to stay legal. [15:53]
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Bugpowder also, I have just been pretty lucky this month [15:53]
Bugpowder past performance is not necessarily indicative of future results. [15:54]
deadweasel you think MPOE will bounce back to .00075 if it survives OIX trading this month? [15:55]
jurov yes [15:55]
thestrin1puller a bubble of unprecedented proportions vs a booming economy soon to be worth billions... [15:55]
Namworld bubble [15:56]
Namworld well booming economy, yes, but not that fast... [15:56]
kakobrekla not that fast!!! [15:56]
kakobrekla cause nam said so!! [15:56]
kakobrekla heres a ticket bitcoin [15:56]
kakobrekla for speeding. [15:56]
jurov p/e isn't the right indicator here. it's considered low risk longer term investment which is rare for btc [15:57]
Bugpowder tiberiusiv: you have zero experience in MPEx securities. I wouldn't be so confident until you get a better sense of the way things work around here [15:57]
Bugpowder deadweasel: If MPOE bond holders avoid a loss this month, yes, S.MPOE will bounce. [15:57]
jurov tiberiusiv thing is only few loud folks think it's overvalued [15:58]
Namworld tiberiusiv is negative on just about 99% of things. [15:58]
deadweasel interesting, i didn't realize OIX was 'funded' by the MPOE.Bond. learning is fun! [15:58]
deadweasel lol nam [15:58]
jurov tiberiusiv, do you really know better btc investment than s.mpoe? with consistent profit and known business model? [15:59]
jurov SR doesn't exist as an investment [15:59]
Bugpowder The MPOE bot volume has seen explosive growth over the past year [16:00]
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Bugpowder I think its down to 85% [16:00]
Bugpowder or 80% [16:00]
jurov tiberiusiv that's not what i asked. is there anything better? [16:00]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.532 = 1.064 BTC [-] [16:01]
jurov hahahahaha cavirtex [16:01]
Bugpowder the fact is, there is a lot of hot money in the BTC investment space, and not a lot of options [16:01]
jurov but cavirtex is a fiat business [16:01]
MJR_ Bugpowder: amen to that [16:01]
MJR_ this is the time to start a bitcoin venture [16:01]
jurov they will inevitable get less btc-profitable [16:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.714994 = 3.575 BTC [+] [16:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.714995 = 7.15 BTC [+] [16:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.715 = 14.3 BTC [+] [16:02]
MJR_ i was wondering...how could package up a VXX for btc [16:02]
jurov mpex is as removed from fiat as possible.. together with sdice [16:02]
deadweasel it's true, if there is no fiat, the is no legal precedent for a GLBSE type event [16:02]
deadweasel it's uncharted territory. [16:03]
jurov they are this "down" every now and then, that's not argument [16:03]
jurov both numbers are completely virtual [16:04]
jurov and so is coinbr [16:04]
jurov withdraw while you can [16:04]
unbalanced Bugpowder: I assume you're in the US... you know better than I but if you're managing pure BTC trades and client accounts are funded in BTC and they can only w/d in BTC you might be okay. [16:05]
jurov hahahaha and in sloakia we don't even have general attorney elected for over a year [16:05]
unbalanced where "might" = risk, sure. If you have better info than I pls link so I can educate myself... no rush. [16:05]
jurov i say, withdraw the fuck from coinbr while you can [16:05]
kakobrekla yurop ftw [16:05]
unbalanced info re: licensing, not trade ideas [16:06]
Chaang-Noi btc im bored, go up already [16:06]
kakobrekla Chaang-Noi sell some to help it [16:06]
jurov tiberiusiv , yes it was. a year ago [16:06]
Chaang-Noi kako hell no, not until well over $1000 and im willing to wait a few years:) [16:06]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 87 [16:07]
gribble There are currently 808.85515 bitcoins offered at or under 87.0 USD, worth 70368.6225068 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds [16:07]
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jurov okay so wait till then and stfu [16:08]
Chaang-Noi he wont stfu :( [16:08]
KRS-1 lol [16:08]
jurov but they will have to get enough btc from these "crime elements" first. not that will be fun [16:08]
Chaang-Noi im a goat [16:08]
jurov or they will turn to mircea. that will be even moar fun [16:09]
Bugpowder it could be moved [16:09]
Bugpowder the bottom line is that it is the most secure site with by far the highest volume [16:09]
jurov anyway it isn't for sale. it's like berkshire hathaway "nobody will pay these trillions" [16:09]
Bugpowder and has an owner that actaully knows what the fuck he is doing [16:09]
Bugpowder unlike every other BTC startup I have seen [16:10]
jurov tiberiusiv i see some % of that volume and can vouch that it *is* there [16:10]
Bugpowder I see some % of it too [16:10]
jurov how do you know the volume is on NYSE? on forex? [16:10]
Bugpowder I think he will partner [16:11]
jurov you obviously consider yourself intelligent, so do it [16:11]
jurov i;m waiting [16:11]
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Chaang-Noi im a goat and im on a boat [16:11]
Chaang-Noi tiberslav the nigerian keeps quakin [16:12]
jurov yes, fiat scammers have to maintain appearance [16:12]
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Chaang-Noi tiberslav tiberslav we are going to change the world, we are the new masters [16:13]
Bugpowder coinlab and coinbase haven't figured out the suit part yet either [16:13]
kakobrekla but zuck is a pussy [16:13]
Bugpowder and I think mircera wears a suit [16:13]
Bugpowder usually [16:13]
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Bugpowder http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://images.zoso.ro/img/2010/01/mircea_popescu.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.zoso.ro/mircea-popescu-este-cel-mai-influent-si-mai-destept-om-din-lume-si-din-romania/&h=420&w=322&sz=43&tbnid=Ax15b4F7WV-jVM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=69&zoom=1&usg=__AQxh65wDxZWtX1qGa-I250HzGvo=&docid=ooulPqIKMouWNM&sa=X&ei=hf5SUfaaK7PH4APj4oCABA&ved=0CE0Q9QEwAw&dur=238 [16:13]
kakobrekla he wears a suit on a fuckin camel [16:13]
kakobrekla ... [16:13]
Bugpowder should probably shave though [16:13]
jurov tiberiusiv: have you seen him burning qu'ran? [16:14]
Chaang-Noi lol really jurov? [16:14]
Bugpowder heheh [16:14]
Bugpowder yeah that vid could be problematic to wall street [16:14]
Chaang-Noi offened? just increased the odds his ass gets killed [16:14]
jurov http://www.popscreen.com/v/6nD6v/Barbequran-starring-Mircea-Popescu [16:15]
Chaang-Noi btc ahs no laws [16:15]
Chaang-Noi need to install flash :/ [16:15]
jurov seems it gor removed :/ [16:15]
jurov *got [16:16]
kakobrekla funny so much to say over romania when usa is full of btc failed biz and scams and jesuses on meth [16:16]
jurov yes, mp had article abuot famous knife fight too [16:16]
hhh I liked MP training class for gypsies. [16:16]
Chaang-Noi tiberslav tiberslav, he is a jesus on meth, but from nigeria [16:16]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.475 BTC [+] [16:17]
jurov but anyway wallstreet has its own problems and it's well possible it won't survive move to deflationary currency [16:17]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 87 [16:18]
gribble There are currently 997.4039 bitcoins offered at or under 87.0 USD, worth 86755.5680726 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0020 seconds [16:18]
Chaang-Noi ]growiong :/ wake up america! [16:18]
jurov can't find. ask him to see it [16:18]
deadweasel we're awake! [16:18]
kakobrekla yet it works better [16:19]
jurov in slovakia they learned and are all white-collar now.. would prefer romanian ways sometimes [16:19]
hhh Only if you are not the one in the trunk. [16:20]
Bugpowder was it? [16:20]
Bugpowder I thought that was still delayed [16:20]
kakobrekla nah, now eu wants in romania [16:21]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 92 [16:21]
gribble There are currently 9357.0707 bitcoins offered at or under 92.0 USD, worth 837704.987653 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0016 seconds [16:21]
jurov no, only schengen zone (free movement) was delayed [16:21]
Bugpowder ah [16:21]
Chaang-Noi i got a box of some of the finest cubans in the world, and no lighter.... [16:21]
kakobrekla ecb knows where the btc is [16:21]
Bugpowder lol [16:21]
ThickAsThieves ;;bids 82 [16:21]
gribble There are currently 6359.1076 bitcoins demanded at or over 82.0 USD, worth 536315.344566 USD in total. | Data vintage: 34.9539 seconds [16:21]
ThickAsThieves ;;bids 0 [16:22]
gribble There are currently 36661582 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9860755.86811 USD in total. | Data vintage: 64.1093 seconds [16:22]
jurov nah. they said the same about slovakian gypsies [16:22]
ThickAsThieves 10mil soon [16:22]
jurov and many indeed went to UK [16:22]
jurov but mostly they found a work there and are happy [16:22]
jurov no significant crime there [16:22]
ThickAsThieves if rally continues tomorrow... [16:23]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 100 [16:23]
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hhh You don't know romanian gypsies. [16:23]
gribble There are currently 22997.679 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 2160753.28198 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0024 seconds [16:23]
jurov no janitorial, babysitting, etc. [16:23]
jurov tiberiusiv don't be racist. they will work given the opprotunity [16:23]
jurov but in eastern yourp there's longtime econ crunch, few opportunities [16:24]
jurov patently false. when there was less than 12% unemployment here politicians celebrated [16:24]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 250 @ 0.004 = 1 BTC [+] [16:25]
jurov and it's over 20% atm [16:25]
Chaang-Noi wife had a ligher, thank fuck lol [16:25]
hhh Romania Unemployment rate: 4.3% [16:25]
Chaang-Noi usa is 8 or 9 percent? [16:26]
jurov and that's impossible in spain? [16:26]
hhh You are welcome to come here if you are jobless. [16:26]
kakobrekla yeah usa is abou 9% employed [16:26]
hhh http://www.google.ca/publicdata/explore?ds=z8o7pt6rd5uqa6_&met_y=unemployment_rate&idim=country:ro&fdim_y=seasonality:sa&dl=en&hl=en&q=romania%20unemployment [16:27]
jurov before 2009 there was less than 10% in spain. here never since revolution. [16:27]
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Diablo-D3 well [16:27]
Diablo-D3 the problem with unemployment is it doesnt include the people who became disabled just so they could survive [16:28]
jurov tiberiusiv we have quite generous support payment for few months. so they mus have some accurate accounting [16:28]
jurov otherwise ppl will riot when they;d receive nothing [16:28]
Diablo-D3 jurov: riot in the US? unlikely [16:28]
Diablo-D3 otherwise we would have rioted in 2000 when congress refused a recount [16:29]
jurov as opposed to me. ic. [16:29]
Diablo-D3 and then in 2004 when bush was re-elected after putting our nation into extreme debt, destroyed education, destroying social security, and destroying our medical infrascruture [16:29]
jurov anyway... these are the gypsies you tell as "don't know what the work mean" [16:29]
Diablo-D3 oh christ not the gypsy shit again [16:30]
jurov they often pick up work we despise [16:30]
Diablo-D3 NO ONE CARES JUROV [16:30]
kakobrekla tiberiusiv cares [16:30]
jurov Diablo-D3: you obviously don't care [16:30]
Diablo-D3 tiberiusiv is a troll [16:30]
Diablo-D3 he doesnt count [16:30]
jurov but i have few friends with darker skin and know how hard it's for them [16:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.46500025 = 2.325 BTC [-] [16:31]
jurov when ppl tel "they will steal" on sight [16:31]
Diablo-D3 jurov: dude [16:31]
Diablo-D3 thats what allll white people say [16:31]
Diablo-D3 go to the deep south in the US [16:31]
Diablo-D3 DEM DARE DARKIES, THEY'YA STEAL YA BLIND [16:31]
Bugpowder related to the bitcoin DDOSes? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet-security/9957063/Web-slows-under-biggest-attack-ever.html [16:32]
Diablo-D3 MAH GRAMPY'S GRAMPY WAS IN THE WAR YA KNOW [16:32]
Diablo-D3 "which war?" [16:32]
Diablo-D3 THE CIVIL WAR, AND THE NIGGAHS WON DAT [16:32]
Diablo-D3 WORST DAY IN HISTORY [16:32]
jurov and now why do you think that is? [16:32]
Diablo-D3 because white people are the most racist fucks on the planet [16:33]
Diablo-D3 and I say that as a white guy [16:33]
Diablo-D3 whos half german. [16:33]
Chaang-Noi asians are more racists than whites [16:33]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: dude, we killed white people because they wernt white enough [16:33]
KRS-1 my experiences have shown me it goes both ways diablo [16:33]
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KRS-1 experiences may differ of course [16:33]
Chaang-Noi d3 learn asian history and culter, trust me on this [16:34]
Diablo-D3 jewish? nope, not white, even though you're 100% genetically german [16:34]
Diablo-D3 gay? nope, white people arent gay [16:34]
Bugpowder ok now tiberiusiv has earned the ignore [16:34]
Diablo-D3 disabled? nope, white people can automatically grow new limbs, srsly [16:34]
Bugpowder take your rants somewhere else you fuckhead [16:34]
Chaang-Noi tiberslav getting trolled and asking people to shut up, hahahah [16:34]
* Diablo-D3 snorts a line of coke with hitler [16:34]
Bugpowder I'm done [16:35]
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Chaang-Noi hitler is too jewish for my tasts [16:35]
Diablo-D3 and then we get to the big leagues over in soviet russia [16:35]
Diablo-D3 they killed everyone who couldnt grow a stalin-esque power mustache [16:35]
Diablo-D3 even russian women can grow them [16:36]
Diablo-D3 they use it to scare off wolves and potential suitors [16:36]
kakobrekla The euro extended losses following media reports that Pier Luigi Bersani, the head of Italy’s center-left alliance, ruled out forming a coalition government, saying that only an “insane person” would want to govern Italy. [16:38]
Chaang-Noi lol [16:38]
jurov russian women scare wolves with mustache??? i thought they use the perfume [16:38]
Diablo-D3 jurov: no, thats to scare Putin away [16:38]
kakobrekla speaking of italy, tiberiusiv was a roman emperor [16:40]
Diablo-D3 tiberius is also kirk's middle name [16:40]
Chaang-Noi hell i bought at 3.5 40 stable is awesome [16:42]
Chaang-Noi taht willleave you with .2 btc? [16:43]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 87.5 [16:45]
gribble There are currently 1391.9833 bitcoins offered at or under 87.5 USD, worth 121250.751869 USD in total. | Data vintage: 68.8257 seconds [16:45]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 87 [16:45]
gribble There are currently 827.90834 bitcoins offered at or under 87.0 USD, worth 72027.1649475 USD in total. | Data vintage: 83.9231 seconds [16:45]
Chaang-Noi wtf? [16:46]
Chaang-Noi the bot slow? [16:46]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 87 [16:46]
gribble There are currently 827.90834 bitcoins offered at or under 87.0 USD, worth 72027.1649475 USD in total. | Data vintage: 116.9298 seconds [16:46]
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Chaang-Noi ;;asks 87 [16:47]
gribble There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 87.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds [16:47]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 87.5 [16:47]
gribble There are currently 228.73736 bitcoins offered at or under 87.5 USD, worth 20009.1910906 USD in total. | Data vintage: 6.7427 seconds [16:47]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 88 [16:47]
gribble There are currently 1430.3342 bitcoins offered at or under 88.0 USD, worth 125629.001767 USD in total. | Data vintage: 13.4077 seconds [16:47]
Chaang-Noi there we go [16:47]
TomServo tiberiusiv: So how does the SP500's 4% growth for march corrolate to BTC's 145$? (roughly) [16:48]
TomServo 145% [16:48]
Chaang-Noi some of wall street invested in btc :) [16:48]
Chaang-Noi lol [16:49]
Chaang-Noi you must be a billionaire cuz you know so much [16:50]
MJR_ wouldn't it be great to have a tradeable volatility index? [16:50]
TomServo ok - I just missed the 'smaller less liquid' piece - we don't need to go through the whole thing again. [16:51]
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Chaang-Noi if the sp500 goes down 20% btc will lose more than 100% of value right? [16:52]
Chaang-Noi sure? [16:53]
Chaang-Noi so a 41% and btc loses more than 100% right? [16:53]
TomServo I would say that is a 'loose' correlation at best. [16:53]
Chaang-Noi tiberslav thinks im thai [16:54]
Chaang-Noi tiberslav tiberslav the expert with .35 btc [16:55]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 50 @ 0.00442 = 0.221 BTC [+] [16:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.85 BTC [+] [16:57]
MJR_ i guess the OIX has some similarity to the VIX or VXX...but i don't think it does the implied variance [16:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.8 BTC [-] [16:58]
TomServo tiberiusiv: what does that make what you're doing? [16:58]
error4733 !last h vtx [16:58]
assbot Last trade for VTX on HAVELOCK was at 0.532 BTC [-] [16:59]
TomServo I think it's crazy the fork didn't have a bigger impact. I still don't understand it. [17:00]
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Chaang-Noi tiperissuv what is your day job? or you a welfare kinda guy? [17:02]
splnkr i'd like to know the amount of -wallets- in existence rather than addresses to better gauge adoption [17:02]
Chaang-Noi there is a chart for that, i dont have link ready :( [17:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.009901 BTC [-] [17:02]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.565 = 2.825 BTC [+] [17:03]
Chaang-Noi used to show by country too [17:03]
splnkr tiberiusiv: how can you assess that [17:03]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 88 [17:03]
gribble There are currently 1443.1185 bitcoins offered at or under 88.0 USD, worth 126757.23828 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds [17:03]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 87.71 [17:03]
gribble There are currently 488.05041 bitcoins offered at or under 87.71 USD, worth 42758.3837702 USD in total. | Data vintage: 8.3323 seconds [17:03]
error4733 lol [17:04]
error4733 in real world 10% control 90% [17:04]
splnkr tiberiusiv: are you familar with s-curve new tech. adoption rates? [17:04]
Chaang-Noi facepalm [17:04]
error4733 lucky bastard [17:05]
kakobrekla still better than fiat money! [17:05]
splnkr tiberiusiv: http://smart-future.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/S-Curve1_261009.jpg [17:05]
error4733 tiberiusiv : link ? [17:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7051 BTC [-] [17:05]
error4733 seems to big [17:05]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7051 BTC [-] [17:05]
splnkr i'd expect one of those in terms of -BTC adoption-, not price [17:05]
splnkr [17:06]
saulimus that's why freicoin sounds like a better idea, but who's going to want that? nobody... [17:07]
splnkr how's that different from any other currency [17:07]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 89.84 [17:07]
gribble There are currently 3551.0734 bitcoins offered at or under 89.84 USD, worth 314914.120344 USD in total. | Data vintage: 23.6477 seconds [17:07]
ThickAsThieves ;;bc,vwap [17:07]
gribble Error: "bc,vwap" is not a valid command. [17:07]
ThickAsThieves ;;vwap [17:07]
gribble Error: "vwap" is not a valid command. [17:07]
ThickAsThieves is there a comman d for that? [17:07]
saulimus I just want a coin that's "fair". [17:08]
ThickAsThieves ;;24hrprc [17:08]
gribble Error: "24hrprc" is not a valid command. [17:08]
error4733 life is not fair [17:08]
error4733 why btc should be fair ? [17:08]
MJR_ saulimus: lol my friend was just saying that freicoins were cooler [17:08]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 87.71 [17:08]
gribble There are currently 242.79055 bitcoins offered at or under 87.71 USD, worth 21288.6741198 USD in total. | Data vintage: 113.9707 seconds [17:08]
saulimus no, but it's better for some things to be fair than none at all [17:08]
MJR_ i said...on their website they say that people will want to hoard and will move to gold or bitcoins [17:08]
MJR_ the only times demurrage has really worked was with fiat and govt control [17:09]
error4733 ;;ticker [17:09]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.60100, Best ask: 87.64000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03900, Last trade: 87.64000, 24 hour volume: 74410.88664766, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 87.70000, 24 hour vwap: 81.34377 [17:09]
MJR_ you can't force people to adopt a currency they have to spend, so it is an interesting thought experiment, but will never succeed [17:09]
error4733 can't wait before a early dump 100K just for fun [17:10]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.593 BTC [+] [17:11]
Chaang-Noi we are about to rocket? [17:11]
error4733 ;;goxlag [17:11]
gribble 0.026871 seconds [17:11]
ThickAsThieves ;;bids 0 [17:11]
gribble There are currently 36662286 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9836023.47991 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0190 seconds [17:11]
error4733 what is the command to see the impact for a 10k dump [17:12]
saulimus tiberiusiv, a bitcoin that doesn't reward early adopters in a huge way. just like you said, the wealth distribution is a lot worse than in fiat. [17:12]
saulimus risk is relative [17:13]
MJR_ who cares about wealth distribution [17:13]
error4733 lol more risk ? [17:13]
error4733 50K BTC was like 50$ [17:13]
MJR_ rich people spend money [17:13]
ThickAsThieves why do you guys take tib seriously? [17:13]
Chaang-Noi NEW ATH!!!!!!!! [17:13]
error4733 wich risk ? :D [17:13]
ThickAsThieves it litters mt chat log [17:13]
ThickAsThieves my [17:13]
MJR_ ThickAsThieves: i muted him, so i am only seeing one side of the convo [17:13]
MJR_ it's derivative trolling now [17:13]
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Chaang-Noi tiberslav is a fun troll we will get tired of in a day or so and all have him on igniore [17:14]
MJR_ yeah true [17:14]
saulimus ok [17:14]
saulimus he sounds a bit bitter and angry [17:14]
ThickAsThieves can't wait [17:14]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 80 [17:14]
gribble There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds [17:14]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 88 [17:15]
gribble There are currently 943.5047 bitcoins offered at or under 88.0 USD, worth 82991.945217 USD in total. | Data vintage: 2.2569 seconds [17:15]
MJR_ he does sound bitter and angry...some people will take any attention, even negative (see: lindsay lohan) [17:15]
ThickAsThieves ;;bc,stats [17:15]
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error4733 yes but some early will want cash out at certain point [17:15]
gribble Current Blocks: 228258 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 1565 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 6 hours, 12 minutes, and 56 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6736564.18643 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.60841 [17:15]
ThickAsThieves ;;nethash [17:15]
gribble 49661.7113479 [17:15]
ThickAsThieves booo [17:15]
MJR_ i don't know about you, but it appears that $100 is pretty much certain in the next month [17:15]
error4733 ? [17:15]
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error4733 next monday [17:15]
MJR_ so if most people see $100 coming...i think they would wait till around then, high 90's etc [17:15]
MJR_ then we get a little pullback [17:16]
Chaang-Noi thing is, no one is cashing out, or if the did, it was at 30 [17:16]
Chaang-Noi all bears are long dead [17:16]
MJR_ and more people jump in to push us past that level, my projection at least [17:16]
TomServo ;;market sell 10000 [17:16]
gribble A market order to sell 10000 bitcoins right now would net 837740.3477 USD and would take the last price down to 81.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 83.7740 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 86.3440 seconds [17:16]
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TomServo error4733: ^ [17:16]
ThickAsThieves $100 could happen this week, shit's getting hot [17:16]
MJR_ sure is [17:16]
error4733 lol S.dice value is 37M$ today [17:16]
Chaang-Noi i will sell some at $1000 [17:16]
MJR_ i might sell one or two [17:16]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 88 [17:18]
error4733 so tib what you say is, we play with 1M BTC because 9M is blocked in healty address and stay there ? [17:18]
gribble There are currently 729.12237 bitcoins offered at or under 88.0 USD, worth 64148.2153717 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds [17:18]
error4733 look good for me ! that me my BTC is 10 time more valuable [17:18]
error4733 *that mean [17:19]
MJR_ error4733: 10X more able to move the market at least...it's similar to S.DICE's situation [17:19]
Chaang-Noi wonder if 95 will break by the time i wake up tomorrow [17:19]
Chaang-Noi lol, try selling all google or apple stock in the world at once [17:20]
MJR_ Chaang-Noi: some one is always on the other side of the trade [17:20]
MJR_ so someone is buying all the appl or goog in the world [17:20]
Chaang-Noi there are more google shares than bids [17:21]
Chaang-Noi this is normal [17:21]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [17:21]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.90501, Best ask: 87.96700, Bid-ask spread: 0.06199, Last trade: 87.96700, 24 hour volume: 74596.54084966, 24 hour low: 75.20000, 24 hour high: 87.96700, 24 hour vwap: 81.52881 [17:21]
Chaang-Noi tiberslav you have no valied point... just stfu lol [17:21]
Chaang-Noi 87.98 [17:21]
ThickAsThieves ;;goxlag [17:22]
gribble 69.445847 seconds [17:22]
MJR_ he's never had one [17:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.7051 = 4.9357 BTC [-] [17:22]
MJR_ its basically (your position) ^ -1 [17:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 29 @ 0.715 = 20.735 BTC [+] [17:22]
Chaang-Noi 87.99 [17:23]
ThickAsThieves 88 [17:23]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 88 [17:23]
gribble There are currently 416.45479 bitcoins offered at or under 88.0 USD, worth 36647.2587645 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds [17:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 10 @ 0.745 = 7.45 BTC [+] [17:23]
ThickAsThieves http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFT7hNhop7w [17:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7489 BTC [+] [17:24]
MJR_ what you said to the negative first power [17:24]
Chaang-Noi oh gox, why you haz so much lag [17:25]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.74899 = 2.996 BTC [+] [17:25]
smickles thestrin1puller: the ;;seen me's are starting to get confusing. Do you use it as some kind of market indicator? ;D [17:25]
smickles http://blog.smickles.com/2013/03/27/mpex-might-have-a-significant-effect-on-the-market/ [17:27]
Chaang-Noi i wonder, should i really buy a boat? or get a real boat? hmmmm [17:27]
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Chaang-Noi over 88 [17:28]
smickles really buy a boat or buy a real boat? [17:28]
Chaang-Noi a real boat [17:28]
Chaang-Noi i live near the ocean [17:28]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 88.20 [17:29]
gribble There are currently 99.482627 bitcoins offered at or under 88.2 USD, worth 8774.26253061 USD in total. | Data vintage: 11.1237 seconds [17:29]
smickles thestrin1puller: np, want to provide me a better link for you? [17:29]
smickles er [17:29]
smickles tiberiusiv: %^^ [17:29]
Diablo-D3 asicminer div tiem [17:29]
ThickAsThieves smickles this will surely go to tib's head [17:29]
Chaang-Noi d3 did they pay? [17:29]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: yeah, this is the 5th dividend this month [17:29]
ThickAsThieves toll power +10 [17:29]
ThickAsThieves troll power +10* [17:29]
Chaang-Noi awesome what was it? [17:29]
Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: oh, dunno, got the pre-dividend tx so far [17:30]
Chaang-Noi oh, i did not :/ [17:30]
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Chaang-Noi tiberslav is gone :/ [17:32]
deadweasel he's been gone for a while, thanks to /ignore [17:33]
Chaang-Noi :) [17:33]
* smickles ignores noone [17:33]
deadweasel i unignore him sometimes just to take his pulse again, but it plagues my screen, so i usually re ingore [17:34]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.129 BTC [-] [17:34]
* deadweasel ignores tiberiusiv [17:34]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 7 @ 0.129 = 0.903 BTC [-] [17:34]
smickles i thought it a little funny, pointing out tiberiusiv's accusation agains mircea_popescu with links to their -otc ratings [17:34]
Chaang-Noi d3 you got test payment? [17:35]
unbalanced Chang-Noi: 95 is in reach on CAD market: http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/virtexCAD.html [17:35]
Chaang-Noi ;D [17:35]
unbalanced Someone should tell that waller that if he just moves it to $190, everyone will follow him at this point. [17:35]
error4733 ;;ticker [17:35]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.60000, Best ask: 88.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.40000, Last trade: 88.00000, 24 hour volume: 72723.62126118, 24 hour low: 75.60000, 24 hour high: 88.24300, 24 hour vwap: 81.94089 [17:35]
deadweasel unbalanced: he knows [17:36]
deadweasel i'd wager [17:36]
unbalanced Dood yer freakin me out. [17:36]
Chaang-Noi d3 okay got mine to, but now shoing up on client, but in block chain info [17:36]
unbalanced I'm afraid of whales. [17:36]
unbalanced What did someone say above? whalebears? [17:36]
smickles http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1b432x/mpex_might_have_a_significant_effect_on_the_market/ << if you want to show it some love on reddit [17:37]
ThickAsThieves i think ive been to reddit like twice ever [17:38]
ThickAsThieves am i missing out? [17:38]
smickles not really [17:38]
smickles it's hard to filter the crud [17:38]
ThickAsThieves i read some of the obama posts and thats about uit [17:39]
ThickAsThieves hehe [17:39]
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smickles ThickAsThieves: it's mostly just another way to share links [17:39]
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ThickAsThieves probly better than my facebook feed at least [17:40]
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smickles heh, there is probably a little more input than your facebook feed gets [17:44]
jurov upvoted [17:45]
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jurov but you think first comment will be WTF? ELI5 [17:46]
jurov derp.. *I think [17:46]
assbot [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.0157 BTC [+] [17:46]
smickles jurov: heh, maybe there's a market for eli5 mpex [17:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [SYNERGY] 1 @ 0.015707 BTC [+] [17:48]
jurov that would be best done as redirect straight to satoshi dice [17:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3400 @ 0.00418223 = 14.2196 BTC [+] [17:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00415002 = 2.49 BTC [-] [17:50]
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Diablo-D3 Chaang-Noi: for 1371 shares, 5.175525 [17:54]
Chaang-Noi not a lot eh? [17:54]
Diablo-D3 and remember, they just paid one for 10.x 3 days ago [17:54]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [17:54]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.24301, Best ask: 88.48700, Bid-ask spread: 0.24399, Last trade: 88.24301, 24 hour volume: 71375.87196489, 24 hour low: 76.80000, 24 hour high: 88.48700, 24 hour vwap: 82.17944 [17:54]
Chaang-Noi yeah [17:54]
Chaang-Noi 0.003775 each [17:55]
Chaang-Noi and this is like for 72 hours? [17:55]
Chaang-Noi if so a week would be .008 [17:55]
ThickAsThieves AM div is in i think [17:56]
ThickAsThieves 0.003775 [17:56]
Chaang-Noi still well over 1% per week [17:56]
Chaang-Noi AM is undervalued :/ [17:56]
Diablo-D3 I know, right? [17:57]
leotreasure i agree [17:57]
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ThickAsThieves what was the previous payoff div? [17:57]
Chaang-Noi dont know but that was just paying the 163k [17:58]
Chaang-Noi i wanted to know what it was with the 400k and that is still over 1% a week right now, awesome [17:58]
ThickAsThieves if you take half of the payoff div [17:58]
ThickAsThieves and add it to this one [17:58]
ThickAsThieves it's 0.00752923 for the week [17:59]
ThickAsThieves probly closer to what next week's will look like [17:59]
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Chaang-Noi i dont think so [18:00]
Chaang-Noi oh [18:01]
ThickAsThieves ok [18:01]
Chaang-Noi sorry [18:01]
Chaang-Noi yeah close to that [18:01]
Chaang-Noi okay so .0075 is 1% of current trading value [18:01]
Chaang-Noi still pretty awesome [18:01]
Chaang-Noi esp with bfl fail and maybe 60 ghs soon [18:01]
ThickAsThieves yep [18:02]
ThickAsThieves i agree [18:02]
ThickAsThieves i'd still feel better of share price went back to .9 though :) [18:02]
ThickAsThieves if* [18:02]
Chaang-Noi if the 60 ghs comes on line it will be well over 2btc [18:02]
ThickAsThieves "First week's normal dividends paid. The balance payment of the next batch, as well as the premium for a full-mask to guarantee our quantity production (200 TH/s or more, depending on how well BTC/USD could do) within the next three months, are partly taken from this week's revenue and the next week's. So the dividends within these two weeks are lower than normal." [18:03]
ThickAsThieves Friedcat [18:03]
ThickAsThieves so this next week could be a great time for buying [18:04]
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Chaang-Noi i heart friedcat [18:04]
Chaang-Noi all my sell orders are now gone lol [18:05]
ThickAsThieves yep [18:06]
ThickAsThieves ;) [18:06]
Chaang-Noi same at 1.3 left [18:06]
Bugpowder hmm [18:07]
Bugpowder maybe I won't short asicminer [18:07]
Bugpowder thank god for bitcoin-assets [18:07]
Bugpowder otherwise I would be a btcloser [18:07]
Bugpowder btc loser [18:07]
Chaang-Noi MP hates AM lol [18:07]
Chaang-Noi 200 TH is going to rape everything [18:08]
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Bugpowder my calls are raping everything right now [18:09]
ThickAsThieves hehe [18:09]
ThickAsThieves i only have a few [18:09]
ThickAsThieves but i'm quite happy with them [18:09]
Bugpowder $6000 profit each dollar rise in btc price [18:09]
MJR_ Bugpowder: i read that as bt closer [18:11]
MJR_ and i was like NICE, coffee is for closers [18:11]
Chaang-Noi 88.7 [18:12]
MJR_ yeah, i am seriously considering going long asicminer [18:12]
Chaang-Noi where we not just at 67.7 lol [18:12]
thestrin1puller ;;bc,24hprc [18:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.131 = 0.917 BTC [-] [18:12]
Chaang-Noi im long AM :) [18:12]
gribble 82.46 [18:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 3 @ 0.13 = 0.39 BTC [-] [18:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 2 @ 0.13 = 0.26 BTC [-] [18:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.129 = 0.903 BTC [-] [18:12]
Bugpowder TIME TO BUY A NICE SET OF STEAKKNIVES [18:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 25 @ 0.1253 = 3.1325 BTC [-] [18:12]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.1439 BTC [+] [18:13]
ThickAsThieves ;;bids 0 [18:14]
gribble There are currently 36661713 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9815526.0337 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0188 seconds [18:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.73 = 3.65 BTC [-] [18:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.73 = 3.65 BTC [-] [18:15]
Bugpowder you know, we might actually break 100 before friday [18:15]
Bugpowder at this pace [18:15]
Chaang-Noi we might [18:16]
jurov CoinBr announcement about MPOE options renaming: https://www.bitcoinforum.com/coinbr-com/automatic-exercise/msg2703/#msg2703 [18:16]
Bugpowder in which case... those 750Ts would be profitable [18:16]
Chaang-Noi im not tgoing to risk it [18:16]
Bugpowder i'm selling them ;-) [18:17]
Chaang-Noi lol :) [18:17]
Bugpowder I guess 15:00 is when west coast US opens for biz [18:18]
Bugpowder lots of volume around that time [18:18]
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Chaang-Noi ;;asks 88.7 [18:19]
gribble There are currently 55.752531 bitcoins offered at or under 88.7 USD, worth 4945.2495272 USD in total. | Data vintage: 6.9561 seconds [18:19]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 89 [18:19]
gribble There are currently 926.48815 bitcoins offered at or under 89.0 USD, worth 82396.9086874 USD in total. | Data vintage: 13.9719 seconds [18:19]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 90 [18:19]
gribble There are currently 4351.9612 bitcoins offered at or under 90.0 USD, worth 389854.772436 USD in total. | Data vintage: 18.6086 seconds [18:19]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 95 [18:19]
gribble There are currently 10903.49 bitcoins offered at or under 95.0 USD, worth 997552.815755 USD in total. | Data vintage: 23.4400 seconds [18:19]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 100 [18:19]
gribble There are currently 20573.206 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 1947966.64786 USD in total. | Data vintage: 26.6799 seconds [18:19]
deadweasel so these c750 options. their original price is set by mpex. as the expiry approaches and BTCUSD goes up, the cost of one option increases? [18:20]
thestrin1puller yea [18:20]
thestrin1puller but if the price fluxes real fast that's when it's a good time to buy/sell and option [18:21]
deadweasel so by now, C750T at .2499 would not really be profitable to buy, assuming VWAP stays up? [18:21]
thestrin1puller C750 was good to buy yesterday when the price 24hprc was at ~69 but the current price was 75 [18:21]
thestrin1puller wow the price went up that fast? [18:22]
thestrin1puller it was a .101 [18:22]
thestrin1puller that would have also been a good time to buy [18:22]
deadweasel .2499 listed on coinbr [18:22]
thestrin1puller a lot can happen by friday though [18:22]
Bugpowder the C750Ts are not being offered by mpoebot [18:22]
Bugpowder the bot is sold out of those [18:22]
deadweasel thanks for the explanation. [18:22]
Bugpowder they are being offered by me, and one other unknown party [18:22]
thestrin1puller LOL [18:22]
thestrin1puller sellin calls mr. Powda [18:22]
Bugpowder I am willing to sell at a 100 break-even price model [18:23]
Bugpowder for all my holdings [18:23]
Chaang-Noi yeah, i would too lol [18:23]
deadweasel :) I am willing to understand that, if I was so able. [18:23]
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Diablo-D3 http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/27/bitcoin-expensify/ [18:23]
Chaang-Noi ;;tslb [18:23]
Bugpowder interesting how smooth the asks are up to 100 [18:24]
gribble Time since last block: 47 minutes and 11 seconds [18:24]
Chaang-Noi this is why ltc [18:24]
Bugpowder I guess everyone is afraid of 100 [18:24]
jurov ;;bc,stats [18:24]
Bugpowder and is putting asks a bit below [18:24]
gribble Current Blocks: 228264 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 1559 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 4 days, 3 hours, 15 minutes, and 25 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6745408.56422 | Estimated Percent Change: 0.7405 [18:24]
jurov lmao... some chips blew [18:24]
deadweasel So, the Optoins offered should change after friday, right [18:24]
deadweasel ? [18:24]
jurov http://polimedia.us/trilema/2013/mpex-btc-usd-options-denomination-change/ [18:24]
jurov ^ deadweasel [18:25]
deadweasel There should be a C800T, C800N, C8500T, C8500N, etc. [18:25]
deadweasel oh, thx [18:25]
jurov tl,dr: It’s the intention to offer strikes from 20 to 200 at a step of 3 via the MPOE bot (so 20, 23, 26 etc). [18:25]
MJR_ can people create their own strikes? [18:26]
smickles I like the *all time high* thing on bitcoinity [18:26]
Chaang-Noi yeah [18:26]
Chaang-Noi andt he cartoons [18:26]
MJR_ smickles: me too! but why bother taking it off...every tick is a NATH [18:27]
deadweasel so the bot will start listing, brokers buy, say jurov, and posts some on Coinbr? [18:27]
smickles I've missed all the cartoon tho :| [18:27]
jurov MJR_ you can on bitfunder [18:27]
Chaang-Noi i saw one and was like wtf! [18:27]
MJR_ no i was wondering about MKOPT [18:27]
jurov deadweasel wat? [18:27]
MJR_ can you use that to make your own strike or will it be rejected [18:27]
jurov MJR_: you'll be rejected [18:28]
jurov you have to use existing MPSIC [18:28]
MJR_ ah ok cool [18:28]
jurov deadweasel: coinbr doesn't offer own options. what you see on New order should be the saem order book as on mpex [18:28]
thestrin1puller smickles: sent you mail and a pm [18:28]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 89] [18:29]
gribble Error: Spurious "]". You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands. [18:29]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 89 [18:29]
gribble There are currently 817.2041 bitcoins offered at or under 89.0 USD, worth 72697.3513288 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0014 seconds [18:29]
jurov except that there's some spurious caching added at ddos time, it seems. [18:29]
Chaang-Noi ahh i wanted to break 89 before bed :/ [18:29]
thestrin1puller ;;ticker [18:29]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.75001, Best ask: 88.75800, Bid-ask spread: 0.00799, Last trade: 88.75001, 24 hour volume: 69349.69370356, 24 hour low: 76.82000, 24 hour high: 88.80000, 24 hour vwap: 82.50051 [18:29]
MJR_ .25 more [18:29]
thestrin1puller ;;bids 80 [18:29]
Guest9228 !ticker h sdice [18:29]
gribble There are currently 13120.794 bitcoins demanded at or over 80.0 USD, worth 1092667.62994 USD in total. | Data vintage: 50.4148 seconds [18:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.45300000 / 0.46644661 / 0.47500000 (32 shares, 14.92629165 BTC), 7D: 0.40010000 / 0.48668579 / 0.53000000 (1220 shares, 593.75665772 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.54086072 / 0.68950000 (5570 shares, 3012.59421043 BTC) [18:29]
Guest9228 !ticker h vtx [18:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.47000000 / 0.60045594 / 0.73925000 (263 shares, 157.91991127 BTC), 7D: 0.38280000 / 0.42498831 / 0.79900000 (11466 shares, 4872.91591485 BTC), 30D: 0.38280000 / 0.42498831 / 0.79900000 (11466 shares, 4872.91591485 BTC) [18:30]
thestrin1puller !ticker h HIM [18:30]
assbot [HAVELOCK:HIM] 1D: 1.65000000 / 1.78333333 / 1.85000000 (27 shares, 48.15000000 BTC), 7D: 1.41000000 / 1.78399689 / 2.00000000 (193 shares, 344.31140034 BTC), 30D: 1.40000000 / 2.09413745 / 18.00000000 (661 shares, 1384.22485269 BTC) [18:30]
jurov having sex life dependent on btcusd rate, goat? [18:30]
jurov uh oh [18:30]
smickles thestrin1puller: got it. i'll have that to you sometime later today :) [18:30]
thestrin1puller ;;calc .24 / 3 [18:31]
gribble 0.08 [18:31]
MJR_ so, i had a price target of 100 [18:31]
MJR_ what should i update that to? [18:32]
MJR_ opinions of course [18:32]
Schadenfreude Christ, 5 hours and the transaction still didn't get confirmed [18:32]
MJR_ but curious, 1/1/2014 BTCUSD = ? [18:32]
smickles Schadenfreude: a no fee tx? [18:32]
jurov Schadenfreude: sry... seems i should raise txfee... it's 0.00001 atm [18:32]
smickles those seem to be taking 1 to 2 days on avg currently [18:32]
ThickAsThieves 2014 is way to far away to predict [18:33]
ThickAsThieves too* [18:33]
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Chaang-Noi ;;bids 88.5 [18:35]
gribble There are currently 1048.5819 bitcoins demanded at or over 88.5 USD, worth 93100.3146358 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0062 seconds [18:35]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 89 [18:35]
gribble There are currently 776.95498 bitcoins offered at or under 89.0 USD, worth 69124.0795319 USD in total. | Data vintage: 3.6501 seconds [18:35]
Chaang-Noi nice, we dont see a bid wqall often [18:35]
Chaang-Noi 88.88 [18:35]
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Chaang-Noi ;;asks 89 [18:37]
gribble There are currently 727.55853 bitcoins offered at or under 89.0 USD, worth 64735.6745809 USD in total. | Data vintage: 33.1093 seconds [18:37]
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Schadenfreude So it shouldn't come through until the day after tomorrow? Sucks [18:37]
Chaang-Noi lol [18:37]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 89 [18:38]
gribble There are currently 727.55853 bitcoins offered at or under 89.0 USD, worth 64735.6745809 USD in total. | Data vintage: 56.1564 seconds [18:38]
Chaang-Noi ;;tslb [18:38]
Chaang-Noi oh lol [18:38]
gribble Time since last block: 1 hour, 1 minute, and 55 seconds [18:38]
jcpham http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21954636 [18:38]
Chaang-Noi 88.99 [18:39]
thestrin1puller uh [18:39]
thestrin1puller whoa [18:39]
Chaang-Noi 46k btc sent in last block lol [18:40]
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Chaang-Noi and block size was 462?? [18:40]
thestrin1puller millions of dollars [18:40]
thestrin1puller lol [18:40]
Chaang-Noi i thought that was a no no? [18:40]
thestrin1puller dude it took 1 hour for a block to be found [18:41]
thestrin1puller get over it [18:41]
thestrin1puller DEAL WITH IT [18:41]
Chaang-Noi 462 kb? this will fork the chain again right? [18:41]
jborkl no [18:41]
Chaang-Noi hmm maybe not [18:41]
Chaang-Noi well 89 [18:41]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 89 [18:42]
gribble There are currently 467.83979 bitcoins offered at or under 89.0 USD, worth 41636.9315048 USD in total. | Data vintage: 25.5033 seconds [18:42]
smickles Chaang-Noi: that issue should be resoled [18:42]
smickles *resolved [18:42]
jurov the issue was around > 800k iirc [18:42]
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jurov depending on bdb config [18:42]
smickles there was a patch for the older clients, and the newer ones just don't care. and most of the older clients have upgraded [18:43]
smickles http://luke.dashjr.org/programs/bitcoin/files/charts/branches.html [18:43]
Chaang-Noi okay thanks [18:43]
Chaang-Noi about to bust over 89 [18:43]
smickles that charts the current client distribution [18:43]
ThickAsThieves hackers and spammers will be the new weather, "How's the 'net today?" "oh a little slow, big ddos in China holding the east" [18:44]
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Chaang-Noi ;;asks 89 [18:45]
gribble There are currently 173.42393 bitcoins offered at or under 89.0 USD, worth 15434.7301313 USD in total. | Data vintage: 90.7996 seconds [18:45]
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Chaang-Noi ;;asks 89 [18:47]
deadweasel ;;ticker [18:47]
gribble There are currently 6.9601388 bitcoins offered at or under 89.0 USD, worth 619.45235676 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds [18:47]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.99000, Best ask: 89.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 89.00000, 24 hour volume: 69625.16135317, 24 hour low: 76.82000, 24 hour high: 89.00000, 24 hour vwap: 82.61294 [18:47]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 89.4 [18:47]
gribble There are currently 227.02482 bitcoins offered at or under 89.4 USD, worth 20262.5963564 USD in total. | Data vintage: 5.1871 seconds [18:47]
Chaang-Noi and its gone [18:48]
thestrin1puller ;;ticker [18:48]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.99000, Best ask: 89.24499, Bid-ask spread: 0.25499, Last trade: 89.24500, 24 hour volume: 69606.26929719, 24 hour low: 76.82000, 24 hour high: 89.00000, 24 hour vwap: 82.61516 [18:48]
Bugpowder I guess I should have slept in [18:48]
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Bugpowder wouldn't have sold at 85.5 [18:48]
smickles it's ok Bugpowder, this is just a bubble. [18:49]
Bugpowder heh [18:49]
Bugpowder well [18:49]
deadweasel what was vwap when you sold? [18:49]
Bugpowder sold coins [18:49]
Bugpowder not calls [18:49]
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deadweasel i see [18:50]
Bugpowder no sense in selling calls unless vwap is dipping [18:50]
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deadweasel C750Ns on coinbr are ask .31 bidding .20... ...... shit I need spreadsheet. [18:52]
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Bugpowder Namworld has one [18:52]
deadweasel ya? [18:52]
Bugpowder yeah its pretty nice [18:52]
deadweasel hrm, you think he'd let a noob take look at it and possibly us it? [18:52]
Bugpowder https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvwwyRGyc1WgdGxfRk5SS0hxT1lsVmdLdU1QY0RveGc [18:52]
deadweasel *use [18:53]
ThickAsThieves mp wake up, i needs mah withdrawal :) [18:54]
ThickAsThieves also might need a bigger tx fee with current delays [18:54]
pizzaman1337 ;;ticker [18:55]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 89.10000, Best ask: 89.24500, Bid-ask spread: 0.14500, Last trade: 89.01050, 24 hour volume: 69610.04605213, 24 hour low: 76.82000, 24 hour high: 89.24500, 24 hour vwap: 82.63423 [18:55]
deadweasel thanks Bugpowder ! [18:55]
Bugpowder thank Namworld [18:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.46500025 = 2.79 BTC [-] [18:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.46500011 = 1.86 BTC [-] [18:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.465 = 2.325 BTC [-] [18:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.46 = 1.38 BTC [-] [18:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.459 = 1.377 BTC [-] [18:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.458 = 1.374 BTC [-] [18:56]
deadweasel well that's exactly what i needed. Now I just gotta play with it and digest it. [18:56]
deadweasel Namworld: I'm looking at your spreadsheet, THANK YOU! [18:56]
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MJR_ well while 2014 is far away, and there will be a big variance...$200? [18:58]
MJR_ 9 months out will be a crap shoot, but let's shoot some craps [18:59]
ThickAsThieves no point imo [18:59]
MJR_ ok fair enough [18:59]
ThickAsThieves its pretty much counting your chicks before they hatch [19:00]
ThickAsThieves think about the last 3mos of bitcoin [19:00]
ThickAsThieves and then the 3mos prior [19:00]
ThickAsThieves and again [19:00]
MJR_ yes exactly [19:00]
MJR_ you have to have SOME idea of what you think is going to happen [19:01]
MJR_ I think we'll hit 200 this year [19:01]
MJR_ that is my price estimate [19:01]
MJR_ at this point [19:01]
ThickAsThieves Up, up, up until bad news or some mega whale surfaces [19:01]
Bugpowder sheeit [19:01]
MJR_ i'll revise if there is news or trends [19:01]
MJR_ but if things continue along their current trends, i am guessing 200 [19:02]
ThickAsThieves things could easily get exponential from here [19:02]
ThickAsThieves o rnot [19:02]
MJR_ they could...that would mean we hit 200 by 2014 [19:02]
ThickAsThieves way higher than that [19:02]
MJR_ you can't get higher without going through 200 [19:03]
ThickAsThieves ? [19:03]
MJR_ meaning me hit 200 on the way to something higher [19:03]
MJR_ and i revise estimates again [19:03]
ThickAsThieves so you are telling me that numbers go in order? [19:03]
Chaang-Noi sell off? [19:03]
MJR_ my expectations were 100 by year end [19:03]
MJR_ and now i think that was too conservative [19:03]
ThickAsThieves 100 in 1-10 days [19:04]
MJR_ yes [19:04]
ThickAsThieves is totally possible [19:04]
MJR_ i agree [19:04]
MJR_ so now i need to adjust my price target [19:04]
MJR_ given the current situation [19:04]
MJR_ so i am guessing 200 now [19:04]
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ThickAsThieves for 2014? [19:04]
MJR_ BY 2014 [19:05]
ThickAsThieves if you are basing your target off of history, that's pretty conservative [19:05]
MJR_ not a target of on this date...but rather BY this date [19:05]
ThickAsThieves :/ [19:05]
jurov 90 fell [19:06]
ThickAsThieves it did? [19:06]
Chaang-Noi ? [19:06]
jurov no 91 fell [19:06]
jurov ;;ticker [19:06]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.00000, Best ask: 88.17056, Bid-ask spread: 0.17056, Last trade: 88.17056, 24 hour volume: 69973.08329761, 24 hour low: 76.82000, 24 hour high: 89.24500, 24 hour vwap: 82.68129 [19:06]
ThickAsThieves on bitfloor or sumth? [19:07]
kakobrekla jurov from the future [19:07]
Chaang-Noi jurov lol [19:07]
jurov o i was looking to bitfloor [19:07]
kakobrekla not too distant [19:07]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 90 [19:07]
gribble There are currently 3604.954 bitcoins offered at or under 90.0 USD, worth 323360.286725 USD in total. | Data vintage: 3.8502 seconds [19:07]
Chaang-Noi wont be before my bedtime [19:07]
Chaang-Noi just dont break 100 before i wake! [19:07]
MJR_ oh wow, bitfloor is at 91.95 [19:09]
Chaang-Noi currently? [19:09]
MJR_ and getting taken at that price, right now [19:09]
Chaang-Noi damn [19:09]
MJR_ yep [19:09]
deadweasel Bugpowder: that spreadsheet tells me that all options, bought at their current price would be a loser. [19:10]
MJR_ the bulls are rampaging today [19:10]
MJR_ deadweasel: yep...you are buying them expecting a rise in price [19:10]
deadweasel but the rise is already here, so the price of them has gone up? [19:10]
MJR_ deadweasel: also, probably you should never take the ask [19:10]
ThickAsThieves deadw, raise the predicted price then! [19:10]
ThickAsThieves :) [19:10]
deadweasel you mean buy btc? [19:10]
deadweasel :) [19:10]
MJR_ we are limited by the top of 75C [19:11]
smickles $depth c750t [19:11]
mpexbot smickles: O.BTCUSD.C750T Bids: ['5 @ 0.11564277', '1000 @ 0.11255256'] [19:11]
mpexbot smickles: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.24999998', '1005 @ 0.24999999'] [19:11]
MJR_ at expiration we can play up to 200 [19:11]
smickles ;;calc 75/(1-.24999) [19:11]
gribble 99.9986666844 [19:11]
deadweasel so $100 to be profitable? [19:11]
smickles you buy c75 on it's own expecting 100 to be broken and held, currently [19:11]
deadweasel ok [19:12]
ThickAsThieves odds of hitting a 100vwap before deadline are risky [19:12]
smickles ;;bc,24hprc [19:12]
gribble 82.98 [19:12]
deadweasel i sincerely doubt it. [19:12]
deadweasel also, is it 24hprc or 24vwap? I though tit was vwap [19:12]
deadweasel * thought IT [19:12]
smickles deadweasel: bc,24hprc is the 24h vwap across all exchanges on bitcoincharts [19:12]
MJR_ prc [19:12]
smickles and that's the number mpex uses [19:13]
Chaang-Noi Most Online Today: 2285. Most Online Ever: 3809 (June 20, 2011, 02:56:13 AM) [19:13]
MJR_ ;;bc, prc [19:13]
gribble Error: "bc," is not a valid command. [19:13]
deadweasel why is the ;;bc,24hprc different than the vwap on ;;ticker -- is it because ;;ticker is taking Gox only values? [19:13]
smickles ticker's vwap is just gox [19:13]
smickles ;;ticker [19:13]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.24000, Best ask: 87.99980, Bid-ask spread: 0.75980, Last trade: 87.20000, 24 hour volume: 71455.63235364, 24 hour low: 76.82000, 24 hour high: 89.24500, 24 hour vwap: 82.79927 [19:13]
smickles ;;bc,24hprc [19:14]
gribble 82.98 [19:14]
MJR_ yes vwap is only gox i think [19:14]
jurov no, it should be all exchanges [19:15]
jurov it was quite different fron gox-reported weighted price [19:15]
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jurov yes smickles is right [19:16]
deadweasel thanks jurov, smickles [19:16]
MJR_ wow the subreddit has gone hockeystick i think [19:17]
MJR_ and only 25 mill to 1 billion dollars [19:18]
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deadweasel MJR_: subscribers? [19:22]
benkay 21k [19:23]
pizzaman1337 you guys should go bet on this using my ref: http://bitbet.us/bet/206/bitcoin-market-cap-above-1-billion-before-end/?ref=1A5HtmuQzvTvhcawNFUbRH1pbQ1qY72YHR [19:25]
jurov unconfirmed txs increase by 200-300/hour [19:25]
ThickAsThieves ;;tslb [19:27]
gribble Time since last block: 38 minutes and 3 seconds [19:27]
jborkl 3600 waiting transactions [19:27]
ThickAsThieves maybe it's this internet slowdown news? [19:27]
deadweasel how do you get a ref, pizzaman1337 ? [19:28]
MJR_ deadweasel: 21,779 [19:28]
MJR_ which is 2,000 more than like a day or two ago i think [19:28]
pizzaman1337 deadweasel: http://bitbet.us/faq/#43 [19:28]
deadweasel well that is simple and awesome! [19:29]
deadweasel MJR_: that is a nice increase. [19:29]
deadweasel pizzaman1337: done! :) [19:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10893 @ 0.00061253 = 6.6723 BTC [+] [19:32]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [19:33]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.36201, Best ask: 87.88000, Bid-ask spread: 0.51799, Last trade: 87.88000, 24 hour volume: 71664.46749013, 24 hour low: 76.82000, 24 hour high: 89.24500, 24 hour vwap: 82.96333 [19:33]
ThickAsThieves ;;goxlag [19:33]
gribble 1.501887 seconds [19:33]
pizzaman1337 deadweasel: :) [19:33]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.593 = 1.779 BTC [+] [19:52]
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bgupta ASICMINER raising hashing target from 50TH for second batch to 200TH!! [19:58]
bgupta (slightly lowering divs for the next three weeks to fund the extra capacity) [19:59]
kakobrekla lol bitcoind [19:59]
kakobrekla asks for password via gui for new addy [19:59]
kakobrekla but not via console [19:59]
kakobrekla ftw [19:59]
bgupta ah nvm misread.. the 2nd batch is still 50TH, but he is putting together a 3rd batch of 200TH. [20:00]
bgupta err third batch of 150TH. [20:01]
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Uglux http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/006/026/futuramafry.jpg [20:03]
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MJR_ hope the price falls, i'd love to scoop up more asicminer [20:04]
jurov you can in turn lend it to mp :) [20:05]
bgupta well.. not sure how far shorting would go.. I don't believe anyone owns these shares on margin, so guessing not too many weak hands. [20:06]
MJR_ i wouldn't be shorting [20:07]
MJR_ just trying to get best price [20:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.72 BTC [-] [20:10]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.593 BTC [+] [20:12]
bgupta The problem as I see it is that if someone wants to get in on btc without too much work, they have three choices 1) buy btc 2) buy mining gear 3) buy mining stocks. As long as AM is leading the metrics, it will carry a premium and be a go to investment, since modern mining gear that will last more than a month or so, can't really be easily had. [20:13]
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bgupta (and owning plain btc seems less interesting) [20:14]
bgupta I'll admit that AM probably has from a strict value investment pov prolly gotten ahead of itself.. but it's a better deal than a) owning fiat, b) building/ordering rigs now, c) other mining stocks. [20:17]
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bgupta and certainly less risky than leverage plays. [20:18]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.593 = 1.186 BTC [+] [20:19]
bgupta any one know how much each BFL chip produces Hashrate wise? [20:19]
ThickAsThieves 0 [20:19]
bgupta in theory I mean… IE Full prod run is something like 70k+ chips. [20:19]
bgupta want to know how many TH we are looking at if they ever ship. [20:20]
bgupta (Obviously if they ship it will take a long time to clear backlog) [20:20]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.68 BTC [-] [20:21]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 49 @ 0.68 = 33.32 BTC [-] [20:21]
ThickAsThieves i dunno, 0 looks like a real possiility right now [20:21]
KRS-1 heh [20:21]
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* KRS-1 looks at his preorder.. [20:22]
bgupta they wouldn't still be taking orders.. if it was 0.. [20:22]
ThickAsThieves why not? [20:22]
ThickAsThieves hehe [20:22]
ThickAsThieves for example, what if their chip design simply doesnt work [20:23]
KRS-1 I have a preorder as a money transfer request to BFL's bank..looks like it has a preorder number on it, but never sent the transfer..they say it will hold my position though...I wonder. [20:23]
ThickAsThieves and they are just not admitting yet [20:23]
ThickAsThieves and then they go back to drawing board [20:23]
ThickAsThieves for 3+mos [20:23]
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bgupta I'm expecting them to ship by June. [20:30]
bgupta err by some time in June [20:30]
bgupta closer to June than now. [20:31]
ThickAsThieves i suspect there really is a big problem with their system [20:31]
ThickAsThieves assuming its not just a scam [20:31]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [20:32]
ThickAsThieves ;;goxlag [20:32]
KRS-1 I heard June today myself. [20:32]
ThickAsThieves ;;bueller [20:32]
ThickAsThieves ;;bueller [20:32]
KRS-1 SAVE FERRIS [20:32]
ThickAsThieves :) [20:33]
dub ThickAsThieves: your AM div guess was a bit low [20:33]
dub er high [20:33]
ThickAsThieves only a little [20:33]
ThickAsThieves 21% off :) [20:34]
dub what the fuck is with this esnding satoshis idiocy [20:34]
ThickAsThieves this is the nature of guesses [20:34]
ThickAsThieves at this point i'm not sure [20:34]
ThickAsThieves i dont see what it solves [20:34]
dub chinese logic [20:35]
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bgupta Hard to know that friedcat was going to choose this period of time to invest in another 150TH of gear. his guess prolly would have been better had they not. [20:35]
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bgupta actually it would have been low in that case.. [20:35]
ThickAsThieves chinese proverb say “If you are depressed, you are living in the past. If you are anxious, you are living in the future. Peace is only found in the present.” [20:36]
ThickAsThieves we're approaching the first wall to get to 90 [20:38]
ThickAsThieves can we save the princess? [20:38]
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ThickAsThieves ;;tslb [20:41]
bgupta Walls/spoons http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzm8kTIj_0M [20:41]
ThickAsThieves :( [20:41]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 5 @ 0.11119 = 0.556 BTC [-] [20:45]
ThickAsThieves $1 spread [20:46]
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smickles o.btc [20:51]
MJR_ that DDoS is crazy [20:51]
MJR_ 300Gbps [20:51]
[\] who is getting it now? [20:51]
smickles oh? where? [20:51]
MJR_ apparently cyberbunker is where the ddos is originating [20:51]
MJR_ but it is targeted at spamhaus [20:51]
MJR_ unfortunately they are leveraging dns servers [20:52]
MJR_ so some people are getting slow downs [20:52]
ThickAsThieves tx cnfs are slow [20:52]
Bugpowder spamhaus should redirect to whitehouse.gov [20:52]
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MJR_ thats a quick way to get someone to notice [20:53]
MJR_ lol [20:53]
MJR_ i really want to see an alternate mesh network spring up [20:53]
MJR_ with community owned hardware [20:53]
ThickAsThieves redirect them to litecoin [20:54]
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ThickAsThieves hellooooo gribble [20:54]
smickles MJR_: I've heard the meshnet in seatle is pretty good [20:54]
ThickAsThieves ;;tslb [20:54]
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iz ;;ticker [20:59]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 75 @ 0.00414 = 0.3105 BTC [+] [21:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 2000 @ 0.0044799 = 8.9598 BTC [+] [21:08]
MJR_ ;;goxlag [21:08]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.46 = 0.92 BTC [+] [21:09]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.45700001 = 1.371 BTC [-] [21:09]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.457 = 1.371 BTC [-] [21:09]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.456 = 1.368 BTC [-] [21:09]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 9 @ 0.455 = 4.095 BTC [-] [21:09]
MJR_ 97.60 ask on bitfloor...it could hit 100 there today [21:10]
MJR_ lol [21:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 591 @ 0.00448 = 2.6477 BTC [+] [21:10]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 5409 @ 0.00448 = 24.2323 BTC [+] [21:10]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 11 @ 0.455 = 5.005 BTC [-] [21:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.455 = 1.365 BTC [-] [21:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.454 = 1.362 BTC [-] [21:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4531 = 1.3593 BTC [-] [21:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.45205 = 1.3562 BTC [-] [21:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.452 = 1.356 BTC [-] [21:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.451 BTC [-] [21:11]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 33 @ 0.45 = 14.85 BTC [-] [21:11]
ThickAsThieves maybe havelock sdice will finally come down to market [21:11]
topace its been preetty close lately [21:11]
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MJR_ smickles: I am going to have to look at that...nyc should have had one a long time ago [21:12]
ThickAsThieves topace, any chance of integrating with coinbr? [21:13]
topace integrating what ? [21:14]
ThickAsThieves pushing shares [21:14]
ThickAsThieves of sdice [21:14]
topace from havelock to coinbr? or from coinbr to havelock ? [21:14]
topace i suppose either is possible [21:14]
ThickAsThieves both [21:14]
topace i'd have to talk to jurov about the implementation detaisl [21:15]
topace but yea, anything is possible [21:15]
ThickAsThieves might be overkill for one asset, but it would be nice [21:15]
topace it only works for mpex becuase mpex issues a gpg signed receipt that i can verify and ensure uniqueness on [21:15]
jurov well, such functionality is on hold at the moment [21:16]
MJR_ hmmm... [21:16]
jurov cause i don't trust the engine it's 100% reliable [21:16]
jurov yet [21:16]
MJR_ if the prc goes to 100 the 75 calls are worth it [21:17]
jurov so i can do the transfers manually on request [21:17]
ThickAsThieves worth it? or break even? [21:17]
MJR_ worth it [21:17]
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MJR_ nah break even [21:17]
ThickAsThieves hehe [21:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.45 = 3.15 BTC [-] [21:17]
MJR_ maybe very very slightly worth it [21:18]
Bugpowder worth it, just barely. [21:18]
topace jurov: well if you ever get a request to push or pull from havelock, lemme know, we can do it manually [21:18]
Bugpowder 1 satoshi [21:18]
jurov i can use normal havelock interface, that;s not a problem [21:18]
jurov just on my side checks need to be done [21:19]
topace to push to havelock yea, our normal "paste the mpex receipt" will work fine. [21:19]
MJR_ what is the link to see expected sdice dividends? [21:19]
topace if i get a request from someone to push from havelcok to coinbr, how would i go about that ? [21:19]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.44 = 4.4 BTC [-] [21:19]
ThickAsThieves it's 0 mjr [21:20]
ThickAsThieves for this month [21:20]
jurov topace, contact me then or send email (support@coinbr.com has gpg key published proper) [21:20]
ThickAsThieves https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.0 <--- mjr [21:20]
topace kk [21:20]
topace (not that i've ever had a request, but good to know) [21:21]
jurov yes, it's not requested so often [21:21]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 10 @ 0.593 = 5.93 BTC [+] [21:21]
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MJR_ thanks ThickAsThieves [21:23]
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MJR_ ThickAsThieves: so it looks like no dividends this month? [21:26]
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ThickAsThieves correct [21:32]
Bugpowder gawd damnit [21:32]
Bugpowder sdice [21:32]
MJR_ ah well...i am thinking of doubling down [21:34]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.593 = 1.779 BTC [+] [21:37]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 46 @ 0.00415002 = 0.1909 BTC [-] [21:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 165 @ 0.00415001 = 0.6848 BTC [-] [21:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 9540 @ 0.00388018 = 37.0169 BTC [-] [21:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.0038801 = 3.8801 BTC [-] [21:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00387779 = 3.8778 BTC [-] [21:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00385207 = 3.8521 BTC [-] [21:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 10000 @ 0.00385206 = 38.5206 BTC [-] [21:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 176 @ 0.0036 = 0.6336 BTC [-] [21:40]
ThickAsThieves aww [21:40]
ThickAsThieves should left my bids up [21:40]
Bugpowder put them back up [21:41]
ThickAsThieves you selling? [21:41]
Bugpowder theres more where that came from [21:41]
ThickAsThieves my btc is all tied up waiting for mp now [21:41]
Bugpowder heh [21:42]
Bugpowder ok [21:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.43 BTC [-] [21:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.432 BTC [+] [21:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.43 BTC [-] [21:45]
ThickAsThieves or maybe i'll just help incite a crash on the PTs.... [21:45]
Bugpowder Well [21:46]
Bugpowder Selling for .003999 [21:46]
Bugpowder The pain of this loss will be healed by the call profits. [21:46]
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MJR_ well...there are two choices now with sdice if you got in after the first ipo [21:46]
MJR_ you give up, take your losses...throw the btc you have into a bond or something [21:47]
MJR_ or double down on sdice [21:47]
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MJR_ as the price drops when others pursue strategy 1 [21:47]
MJR_ and then reap some great dividend in april maybe [21:47]
Bugpowder I think its a great value at .00399999 [21:47]
MJR_ hey i agree [21:47]
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Bugpowder I'm just impatient [21:48]
deadweasel is there a mechanism in place for SDICE to repay stockholders in the event MPEX somehow dies? (i'm not saying this is going to happen, I"m asking if there is a strategy) [21:48]
Bugpowder yeah [21:48]
Bugpowder well [21:48]
Bugpowder we know who the shareholders are [21:48]
ThickAsThieves depth is shit on PTS [21:48]
Bugpowder if mpex dies [21:48]
ThickAsThieves PTs* [21:49]
deadweasel ok. [21:49]
Bugpowder The complete account contents are available as a gpg encrypted file [21:49]
Bugpowder of all users [21:49]
Bugpowder I have an old copy somewhere [21:49]
deadweasel awesome. would passthroughs continue to operate? [21:50]
Bugpowder i dunno [21:50]
Bugpowder don't see why not [21:50]
deadweasel me either [21:50]
KRS-1 what are the s.dice dividends like [21:50]
Bugpowder 0 [21:50]
Bugpowder this month [21:50]
KRS-1 well..granted. [21:50]
ThickAsThieves i seriously wanna murder godaddy [21:51]
deadweasel why are you doing business with them? namecheap.com [21:51]
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ThickAsThieves not me, a client [21:52]
deadweasel oh lord, i'm sorry. [21:52]
ThickAsThieves its virtually impossible to get this to transfet [21:52]
ThickAsThieves so i gave up and decided to renew [21:52]
ThickAsThieves well [21:52]
ThickAsThieves now there's this package stuck to it [21:52]
deadweasel they make it difficult on purpose. they implemented this during SOPA, when namecheap starteds stealing their customers [21:52]
ThickAsThieves that cannot be removed [21:52]
ThickAsThieves they want $40! [21:53]
MJR_ yeah, hate godaddy [21:53]
ThickAsThieves but if call them, i will surely lose $40+ in life force from stress [21:53]
MJR_ i registered 3 domains on namecheap (btcshares, btc-etf, bitcoin-etf) like 1 week before they announced accepting bitcoins [21:54]
MJR_ $40 is a good deal... :( [21:54]
Bugpowder lucky you [21:54]
MJR_ Bugpowder: i wish i coiuld have paid in btc [21:54]
Bugpowder uhhh [21:54]
deadweasel MJR_: you made money by not using BTC for that [21:54]
MJR_ yes... [21:54]
MJR_ i am aware [21:54]
MJR_ but i like to support btc based businesses [21:54]
MJR_ or ones who accept [21:55]
deadweasel me too, i hear ya. I paid for VPN with BTC. [21:55]
MJR_ eventually anyone who sells at $100 will be like i could have waited for a million [21:55]
deadweasel but todays rate i paid 300$ for 1 year of VPN [21:56]
MJR_ yeah... [21:56]
deadweasel :) [21:56]
deadweasel it's ok [21:56]
deadweasel we're helping [21:56]
MJR_ this is all more accounting than anything else [21:56]
deadweasel ourselves be poor [21:56]
MJR_ yes [21:56]
deadweasel true [21:56]
MJR_ and after all....i may lose out on paper profits [21:56]
MJR_ but i have never payed close to 80 for a bitcoin [21:56]
deadweasel you may. we all might. [21:56]
MJR_ think last time i dumped fiat was at 49 [21:57]
deadweasel lol, i bought 5 at $67 in the dip, just because I hpe for BTCUSD at $1000 [21:57]
deadweasel :)( [21:57]
MJR_ i bought at 26...that was my biggest buy, it was around 30 or so [21:57]
deadweasel gotta go ya'll, thanks for all the help today with the options OIX! many thanks! [21:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.43 BTC [-] [21:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.429 BTC [-] [21:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.422 = 1.266 BTC [-] [21:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.42150001 = 0.843 BTC [-] [21:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 8 @ 0.4215 = 3.372 BTC [-] [21:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.41 = 1.23 BTC [-] [21:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.4002 = 0.8004 BTC [-] [21:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.4002 = 1.2006 BTC [-] [21:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 7 @ 0.4001 = 2.8007 BTC [-] [21:59]
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ThickAsThieves time to unleash hell on an innocent customer support person... [22:01]
Ukto new asset launched https://bitfunder.com/asset/btcQuick [22:18]
Ukto over 250btc sold (half) within the first few minutes [22:19]
KRS-1 lol [22:20]
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ThickAsThieves this IPO is actually not a joke, whaddaya know [22:22]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 2 @ 0.009994 = 0.02 BTC [+] [22:26]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.00349 BTC [-] [22:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 233 @ 0.0035 = 0.8155 BTC [+] [22:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 0.672002 = 8.736 BTC [-] [22:30]
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smickles ;;ticker [22:39]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 88.20004, Best ask: 88.48899, Bid-ask spread: 0.28895, Last trade: 88.48899, 24 hour volume: 72845.53914176, 24 hour low: 77.13000, 24 hour high: 89.24500, 24 hour vwap: 84.05146 [22:39]
smickles http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1b4l6d/bitcoin_red_pill/c93iswr [22:39]
smickles ^^ indicates top [22:39]
awkorama huh?? [22:40]
TomServo Haha...a financial system without fraud. That's going great so far. [22:42]
jurov financial system without fraud and corruption. nailed it. [22:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.004 BTC [+] [22:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [RSM] 1 @ 0.004 BTC [+] [22:43]
deadweasel who runs bitfunder? [22:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 7000 @ 0.00399999 = 27.9999 BTC [+] [22:44]
Bugpowder hooo [22:44]
Bugpowder funny [22:44]
Bugpowder Ukto: [22:44]
deadweasel ah, that's right, thx [22:44]
Ukto :) [22:45]
deadweasel coinbr is donw jurov? [22:47]
deadweasel nope, back up, was getting 503 for a minute [22:48]
MJR_ smickles: you could say the system doesn't have fraud, though fraudulent people use it [22:48]
smickles Anyone want some P750T? [22:48]
* jurov looks [22:48]
MJR_ no one would say the dollar is fraudulent because bernie madoff took dollars [22:49]
deadweasel depends on the price, smickles [22:49]
MJR_ its fraudulent because it is artificially inflated [22:49]
deadweasel :) [22:49]
smickles MJR_: this basically reminded me of the falkvinge all in [22:49]
smickles deadweasel: ~.019 currently [22:49]
ThickAsThieves not too bad [22:50]
ThickAsThieves i assume you meant .19 [22:50]
Bugpowder nah hement .019 [22:52]
Bugpowder thats actually a good price [22:52]
ThickAsThieves oh i missed the P [22:53]
ThickAsThieves my bad [22:53]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 30 @ 0.01889435 = 0.5668 BTC [-] [22:53]
smickles :D [22:53]
deadweasel oh yeah, I missed the P too. jesus, I'm gonna get eaten alive if I start trading options. balls. [22:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 10 @ 0.401 = 4.01 BTC [+] [22:57]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.56 BTC [-] [22:59]
topace anyone know why mtgoxlive.com hasnt worked in ages? [22:59]
Bugpowder i didn't notice [22:59]
Bugpowder now that bitcoinity is back [22:59]
Bugpowder who cares [22:59]
topace hehe true i've been using bitcoinity lately too [22:59]
ThickAsThieves top i had it working yesterday [22:59]
Bugpowder or http://markets.blockchain.info [22:59]
topace but sometimes i like the mtgoxlive chart just to have open [22:59]
ThickAsThieves but i dont like it anymore either [22:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.55 BTC [-] [22:59]
dub I cant edit my system path because FUCKEN SKURITY [23:00]
Bugpowder it takes WAY too much CPU [23:00]
dub must resist urge to choke these fucks [23:00]
mircea_popescu sooo... what's new [23:00]
Bugpowder lol [23:00]
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ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [23:01]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.50108, Best ask: 88.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.49892, Last trade: 88.00000, 24 hour volume: 70885.65101480, 24 hour low: 77.90000, 24 hour high: 89.24500, 24 hour vwap: 84.33496 [23:01]
mircea_popescu http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/internet-security/9957063/Web-slows-under-biggest-attack-ever.html [23:02]
mircea_popescu apparently everyone's being probed. [23:02]
Bugpowder ya [23:02]
TomServo blockchain.info is reporting 2333 unconfirmed transactions, not sure if that's accurate [23:02]
Bugpowder I finally decided tiberius is an idiot [23:02]
Bugpowder ooooooo [23:03]
Bugpowder rally [23:03]
ThickAsThieves yay! [23:03]
mircea_popescu TomServo kinda [23:03]
MJR_ Bugpowder: why did it take this long? did i miss something? [23:03]
mircea_popescu there's been a pool of 2-5k waiting txs since about 3 months ago [23:03]
TomServo Oh? [23:03]
MJR_ lol, also its funny [23:04]
MJR_ once everyone moves to bitcoinity [23:04]
MJR_ it starts slowing down and fucking up [23:04]
MJR_ i think the fact that blockchain info has a proxy too now [23:04]
Bugpowder that would be mpex hosting ;) [23:04]
MJR_ nah, its just that everyone slammed clarkmoody [23:04]
MJR_ so it stopped working [23:04]
MJR_ then moved to mtgoxlive so it stopped working [23:05]
MJR_ and now bitcoinity is really slow and the bottom chart disappears and needs to be reloaded [23:05]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder omg hater. [23:06]
Bugpowder he know some stuff [23:06]
smickles < mircea_popescu> there's been a pool of 2-5k waiting txs since about 3 months ago << that's a bit misleading, it's not like there are unconfirmed txns that have been waiting that long [23:06]
Bugpowder he has a general framework and understanding [23:06]
dub tbh the anti spam industry is full of retarded fuckwits that deserve to die [23:06]
Bugpowder but he is half blind [23:07]
mircea_popescu smickles a no, i just mean there's a sort of pool for the cheapskates who won't add a fee [23:07]
Bugpowder also one of the biggest douches I have come across [23:07]
dub they are mostly hillbillies with no operational experience [23:07]
smickles maybe just the way i read it tho [23:07]
mircea_popescu what's the avg for a nofee tx to make it to a block by now, 12 hours ? [23:07]
mircea_popescu dub totally. [23:07]
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mircea_popescu dub that they're clueless/stupid is not even the main problem. they're crooked. [23:07]
mircea_popescu as in, selling access to spammers. they're not the antispam industry, they're the spam apportioning industry. [23:08]
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mircea_popescu but he is half blind << i still think he's trying the "i am king of the world you must play my little debate games on my terms for me to understand the world or else it won't be understood by one such as me to its detriment" sillyness [23:08]
mircea_popescu i blame his mother. [23:09]
jurov quite a mayhem ensued on #bitfunder, Ukto dropped another IPO [23:09]
jurov https://bitfunder.com/asset/btcQuick [23:09]
mircea_popescu dropped what's that ? [23:09]
mircea_popescu like canned it ? [23:09]
Bugpowder launched [23:09]
Ukto _I_ didnt drop it.. [23:09]
Ukto btcQuick did [23:09]
Bugpowder right? [23:09]
Ukto -_- [23:09]
jurov put it in place without pre announcement [23:09]
Ukto for all I know..with another issuer going nuts wanting to launch [23:10]
Ukto there might even be another today [23:10]
Ukto or tomorrow [23:10]
Ukto and he hasnt made any secret of it [23:10]
jurov lol, so i will make another 20% on it? [23:10]
mircea_popescu lol [23:10]
ThickAsThieves isnt announcement up to the issuer? [23:10]
mircea_popescu what's these things even do ? [23:10]
ThickAsThieves they take credit cards [23:10]
jurov (i just sold call option to namworld expiring today) [23:10]
ThickAsThieves to buy btc [23:10]
smickles quickbtc is bitcoin for google wallet [23:10]
Ukto they have an excellent history/rep :) [23:11]
mircea_popescu how is bitcoin for google wallet supposed to make money ? [23:11]
Bugpowder I use my google wallet all the fucking time [23:11]
mircea_popescu you do ? [23:11]
Bugpowder no [23:11]
mircea_popescu i thought google wallet is like wave. [23:11]
Ukto mircea_popescu: he sells btc using google checkout [23:11]
Ukto that is [23:11]
ThickAsThieves apparently they defeated a huge chargeback attempt [23:11]
mircea_popescu so i get email [23:11]
Ukto they do a special membership thing, to get ppl identified [23:11]
mircea_popescu "Mr. M. Barlow 6:46 am ! BUSINESS." [23:11]
smickles mircea_popescu: i get email too :D [23:12]
Bugpowder when are people going to get that bitcoin is bad for microtransactions [23:12]
Ukto smickles: LOL [23:12]
mircea_popescu smickles yours is prolly better. [23:12]
Bugpowder the container of shoes vs. the shoe analogy is good [23:12]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder never, because i said it, and i'm a sociopathic arrogant evil guy. [23:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.439 BTC [+] [23:13]
Bugpowder I'm still waiting 3 weeks for a response to my inquires about where my earphones are from the bitcoinstore [23:13]
Bugpowder 4.4BTC [23:13]
Bugpowder gone [23:13]
smickles damn [23:13]
mircea_popescu o wait, my email gets better. "We noticed that you haven't signed in to your eBay account for quite some time, and we'd like to invite you back to buy and sell again. eBay's a great place to buy what you want, and sell what you have." [23:13]
Bugpowder 10% fees now on ebay [23:13]
Bugpowder insane [23:14]
mircea_popescu not like... "hey, we notice we suck because we're douches" but "we notice we're so incredibly great" [23:14]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.439 BTC [+] [23:15]
Ukto Bugpowder: 20%+ on ebay depending on category [23:15]
Ukto plus 3% to pp [23:15]
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mircea_popescu ridiculous. [23:17]
mircea_popescu when do we get a bitcoin ebay killer already ? [23:17]
mircea_popescu that'd be something worth ipoing. [23:17]
smickles "MPEx will never list anything which mircea is not a majority shareholder" [23:23]
smickles :D [23:23]
jurov ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:5f2e6c77f8ae4bf16888289715057650abb8d69bb81c889f36665505 [23:23]
gribble You are now authenticated for user jurov with key 677ABD62D0AEE7D7 [23:23]
smickles from special T [23:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 26 @ 0.00399999 = 0.104 BTC [+] [23:24]
mircea_popescu heh that's bull. sure it will. [23:24]
mircea_popescu wait, what ?! i'm not a majority shareholder in most [23:24]
smickles but we can't believe you because you're romainian [23:24]
mircea_popescu a ok [23:25]
mircea_popescu so basically mpex makes more dough than all the exchanges combined but we can't believe this cause i'm evil. [23:25]
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mircea_popescu works for me srsly. [23:25]
smickles and you live in the good part of romainia, so you're an extra good scammer [23:25]
jurov hahaha [23:25]
smickles i'm simplifying what he said, but the spirit is there, imo [23:26]
mircea_popescu yes. logic, it comes in bottles now. [23:26]
mircea_popescu but it's funny you know, the assumptions people make who are ignorant of history. [23:27]
Ukto mircea_popescu: no cryprian atm bombs near you lately ? [23:27]
mircea_popescu mpoe was here before bitcoinica. what's that matter tho if you're born march 2013 [23:27]
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mircea_popescu Ukto romania is actually in such a good position i prefer keeping lei to euro. [23:27]
Ukto ahhh [23:27]
Ukto i just ment angry mob wise [23:28]
Ukto not neccesarily funds :) [23:28]
mircea_popescu not rly. not much cause to get angry rly. [23:28]
smickles they blew up your atm, tho [23:28]
Ukto i didnt think there would be many angry cyprians [23:28]
mircea_popescu see, here's a thing : romania is ~20mn people and holds ~120 tons of gold. [23:28]
smickles funny sorta-similar-bank-name's atm [23:29]
mircea_popescu non-germany yurp is like 300mn people holds what, 1000 tons ? [23:29]
mircea_popescu smickles ya lol [23:29]
Bugpowder dont forget the ETFs! [23:29]
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mircea_popescu Bugpowder no this is actual gold. romania is lucky in that the natl bank governor is literally the brightest mind in the field atm. [23:30]
mircea_popescu think greenspan, except he gets a romanian deal, whereby he owns that chair and ocasionally gets to be the prime minister. [23:30]
jurov mircea_popescu: are you planning to coopt him? [23:30]
mircea_popescu dude owns the joint. [23:30]
Bugpowder Santelli is not happy with gold anymore [23:30]
smickles !last c750t [23:30]
assbot I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who. [23:30]
smickles !last o.btcusd.c750t [23:31]
assbot It's so strange that you don't remember any of your poetry. [23:31]
mircea_popescu jurov no. we can't coopt each other sadly, but honestly he's smart enough. [23:31]
smickles @.@ [23:31]
smickles $vwap oix [23:31]
mpexbot smickles: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 77.33064121 high: 81.26895624 low: 48.45744947 volume: 71439 btc: 8379.0230226 30 day: no data [23:31]
Bugpowder "securitization of gold has killed it as an ayn rand end-game currency" [23:31]
jborkl assbot> I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who. < I like that assbot [23:31]
mircea_popescu ya but on the other hand... securitization of gold is unavoidable. [23:31]
mircea_popescu gold has serious issues that don't go away just cause we'd wish them to. [23:31]
dub "if the internet felt a bit more sluggish for you over the last few days in Europe, this may be part of the reason why." [23:32]
dub well derp [23:32]
mircea_popescu lol [23:32]
mircea_popescu dub you broke the interwebers ? [23:32]
dub reaching europ from th einternet has always been sluggish [23:32]
jurov gold issues will be overcome when we get teleportation tech :D [23:32]
mircea_popescu jurov and fingers become silky smooth. [23:32]
smickles *non-destructive teleportation tech [23:32]
* mircea_popescu envisions a teleportation future where conspiracy party explains how "if you teleport your gold it's not really YOUR gold you're getting" [23:33]
Bugpowder I recommend drinking aqueous gold so that you can incorporate it within your essential bodily tissues [23:33]
mircea_popescu eh don't do that. [23:34]
jurov and get killed to harvest it, eya? [23:34]
mircea_popescu some idiot is going to go "brain surgeon researcher guy recommended this toxioc stupid process" [23:34]
smickles oh that's right, Bugpowder you have a position of responsibility [23:34]
smickles ಠ_ಠ [23:34]
Bugpowder http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://clickholistic.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/abc_blue_man_080731_mn.jpg&imgrefurl=http://clickholistic.wordpress.com/tag/colloidal-silver-poisoning/&h=240&w=320&sz=36&tbnid=HzKWTCR-YgvOCM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=120&zoom=1&usg=__ycCjQN_E6ccnuMvacF9N3UmwywM=&docid=tLtWeQ4peOSVDM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=9mVTUaypBNTH4AOipICoBg&sqi=2&ved=0CEgQ9QEwBA&dur=320 [23:35]
Bugpowder dero [23:35]
jurov no thanks. i prefer MMS drops. [23:35]
Bugpowder derp [23:35]
mircea_popescu lmao can't even spell derp [23:35]
Bugpowder do you turn gold if you drink colloidal gold? [23:35]
smickles ;;ticker [23:36]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.40003, Best ask: 87.49999, Bid-ask spread: 0.09996, Last trade: 87.40001, 24 hour volume: 70763.99455011, 24 hour low: 78.02000, 24 hour high: 89.24500, 24 hour vwap: 84.48762 [23:36]
mircea_popescu i think there's cutanous inglobation and also the potential for some benign visceral tumours [23:37]
mircea_popescu i don't recall how it's called tho. [23:37]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [23:37]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 87.40004, Best ask: 87.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.09996, Last trade: 87.50000, 24 hour volume: 70598.11766889, 24 hour low: 78.02000, 24 hour high: 89.24500, 24 hour vwap: 84.50209 [23:37]
jurov Bugpowder, better get implant with privkeys [23:38]
jurov won't trip metal detectors [23:39]
jurov and available at nearest vet :) [23:39]
mircea_popescu i kinda wonder how long before privkey tattoos [23:39]
jurov pubkey, no? [23:40]
Bugpowder yeah [23:40]
jurov privkey has to be on some private location [23:40]
Bugpowder yah [23:40]
Bugpowder privkey I wouldn't want exposed [23:40]
jborkl taint [23:40]
Bugpowder internal [23:40]
* jurov shudders on thought of foreskin tattooo [23:40]
Namworld Private parts eh? [23:40]
mircea_popescu well... on pubis [23:40]
Namworld Suiting place for a private key. [23:41]
mircea_popescu need to shave to read. [23:41]
Bugpowder Europeans at a real advantage here [23:41]
mircea_popescu how so ? [23:41]
jurov really all 'muricans are shaved and cut? [23:41]
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Bugpowder not all [23:42]
Bugpowder most are cut [23:42]
jurov or because of tsa? [23:42]
Bugpowder changing now that some states no longer pay for the procedure [23:42]
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mircea_popescu so basically... upon news that bitcoinity is mpex approved everyone hammers site into the ground. [23:44]
mircea_popescu evil. [23:44]
jurov yes? did not notice anything [23:45]
pizzaman1337 I'm pretty sure the blockchain.info inclusion of it probably did that [23:45]
pizzaman1337 http://markets.blockchain.info/ [23:45]
mircea_popescu pizzaman1337 prolly. [23:46]
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jborkl mp, can i get a deposit cleared [23:47]
jcpham http://blog.cloudflare.com/the-ddos-that-almost-broke-the-internet [23:47]
Bugpowder heeey! [23:47]
Bugpowder we got a bid wall [23:47]
jcpham more info on the 300gbit ddos [23:47]
mircea_popescu yeah. deposits flushed. [23:49]
mircea_popescu jcpham lol cloudflare trying to parlay themselves into any ddos discussion. [23:49]
dub its pretty lulzy [23:50]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 3 @ 0.34999 = 1.05 BTC [+] [23:50]
jborkl Thank you [23:50]
TomServo Did they blame juniper again? heh [23:51]
mircea_popescu these all-marketing corps will end up driving us into the ground. [23:54]
mircea_popescu already the all-marketing banks fucked up this generation's life. [23:54]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+] [23:55]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+] [23:55]
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