Forum logs for 26 Mar 2013

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [05:31]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com/ [05:31]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 13 14:15:50 2013 [05:31]
Bowjob personally i dont like lending btc out, unless its absolutely certain ill get it back [05:31]
jcpham if i had "borrowed" 10k btc a year ago i'd be *poof* right about now [05:31]
mircea_popescu thats a pretty high bar. [05:31]
MJR_ lol, I prefer lending it when I don't know what will happen... [05:31]
jcpham pretty difficult to repay that [05:31]
mircea_popescu jcpham i borrowed ~10k exactly a year ago. [05:31]
jcpham need a real good business plan if you spent it [05:31]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.5 BTC [+] [05:32]
jcpham if you converted it to fiat you are fucked [05:32]
mircea_popescu i didn't. teh original mpoe bonds got like 9500 or so btc [05:32]
mircea_popescu most of that's unmoved. [05:32]
jcpham good chance of digging out of the hole by staying in btc [05:33]
Bowjob https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=73599.0 [05:33]
Bowjob for 5 years [05:33]
Bowjob he earns in BTC, but its idk. [05:33]
jcpham anything you could have bought over the last year, other than btc, you lot money on technically [05:34]
jcpham so it's a hard loan to me financially [05:34]
jcpham i bleedb money though [05:34]
mircea_popescu there was a guy on the forum servicing a long term btc loan [05:34]
mircea_popescu old timer. name escapes me atm [05:34]
mircea_popescu taken when btc was like 5 or some shit [05:35]
jcpham loans are like gift. the blockchain is god. [05:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7832 BTC [-] [05:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7831 = 1.5662 BTC [-] [05:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7821 BTC [-] [05:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.778 BTC [-] [05:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.77727 = 4.6636 BTC [-] [05:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 13 @ 0.77726 = 10.1044 BTC [-] [05:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.77725 = 3.109 BTC [-] [05:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77721 BTC [-] [05:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.777 = 1.554 BTC [-] [05:35]
mircea_popescu um' [05:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.77 BTC [-] [05:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.769 = 2.307 BTC [-] [05:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.762 BTC [-] [05:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 32 @ 0.761105 = 24.3554 BTC [-] [05:35]
mircea_popescu honeymoon over ? [05:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.761101 = 3.8055 BTC [-] [05:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.760002 = 3.8 BTC [-] [05:35]
Bugpowder_ how people keep getting BTC given to them as loans is utterly mystifying to me. [05:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [-] [05:36]
Bugpowder_ wowwww almost 50BTC in shares [05:36]
Bugpowder_ 2/3 of an avalon [05:36]
ThickAsThieves not that much [05:36]
ThickAsThieves probly just someone who moved from friedcat to btct to sell [05:37]
mircea_popescu !ticker btctc asicminer-pt [05:37]
assbot [BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.78 / 0.79829 / 0.829 (209 shares, 166.8 BTC), 7D: 0.761102 / 0.83118 / 0.93 (1541 shares, 1280.8 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.77396 / 1 (4449 shares, 3443.3 BTC) [05:37]
mircea_popescu now that's interestying [05:37]
mircea_popescu 1D: 0.78 vs [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 5 @ 0.76000 [05:37]
Bugpowder_ well, the market is uhhh.... a little -thin- below 0.75 [05:38]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves the girl's early estimate was .75 to 1.5 [05:38]
Bugpowder_ https://btct.co/security/ASICMINER-PT [05:38]
mircea_popescu then they kinda blew it [05:38]
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mircea_popescu then people were rooting for "oh, we'll reach 1 anyway" [05:38]
mircea_popescu then... [05:38]
Bugpowder_ 16 shares of bid over 0.01 [05:38]
mircea_popescu o.o [05:39]
mircea_popescu that bad, rly ? [05:39]
dub that bad? [05:39]
Bowjob if asicminer reaches 1 btc.. [05:39]
Bowjob that means they expect asicminer to make at least 400k BTC [05:39]
dub there is no depth its hardly representative of value [05:39]
Bugpowder_ mircea_popescu: the girl's estimates were .075 to 0.15 no? [05:39]
Bowjob thats crazy shit [05:39]
ThickAsThieves BF goes deeper [05:39]
Bowjob ;;ticker [05:39]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.30000, Best ask: 75.37700, Bid-ask spread: 0.07700, Last trade: 75.55000, 24 hour volume: 80678.53152168, 24 hour low: 69.80000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 74.58758 [05:39]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder_ no, .75 to 1.5 iirc [05:39]
Bugpowder_ per share? [05:39]
Bugpowder_ I don't think so [05:39]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=144319.0 [05:39]
ThickAsThieves yeah she said about that [05:40]
mircea_popescu All these things considered it is perhaps not unreasonable to judge ASICMiner revenue generation ability in the 5 to 15k BTC a month range. If this is in fact correct it's also not unreasonable to judge ASICMiner's market cap roughly equal or a little under that of Satoshi Dice, in which case the 400,000 share company would be worth on MPEx somewhere between 3 and 600k BTC, or between .75 and 1.5 BTC per share, making [05:40]
mircea_popescu Bitfountain the third multi-million dollar Bitcoin public corp in Bitcoin history. [05:40]
ThickAsThieves it wouldve hit 1+ if they actually got to 12TH+ [05:40]
mircea_popescu It's unclear how much risk discount investors would be wanting to apply to that valuation, and it's also unclear how much discount will willy-nilly end up being applied in the event ASICMiner actually foregoes liquidity and lists on some marginal venue. But in any case things look pretty bright at the moment, so well done! [05:40]
mircea_popescu golden mouth girl. [05:40]
dub inb4 its .9 again [05:40]
dub 50 shares moving doesn't mean shit [05:41]
mircea_popescu morel ike 100 i think [05:41]
dub did you see the latest taaki video? [05:42]
mircea_popescu no lol [05:42]
mircea_popescu is he cutting ? [05:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.343 BTC [+] [05:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 4 @ 0.344 = 1.376 BTC [+] [05:42]
dub http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/video/2013/mar/22/bitcoin-currency-video?INTCMP=SRCH [05:42]
dub we need to identify that building and burn it down with those two inside [05:43]
Bugpowder_ What would be the appropriate subform to post an add to borrow asicminer shares? [05:44]
Bugpowder_ for shorting purposes [05:44]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder_ heh. let me find it [05:45]
Bugpowder_ I mean, its a good company. [05:46]
Bugpowder_ but the valuation is looking pretty frothy [05:46]
ThickAsThieves ;;estimate [05:47]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 6880830.90136 based on data since last change | 7242616.81723 based on data for last three days [05:47]
Chaang-Noi asicminer sell off lol? [05:47]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder_ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151265.msg1605879#msg1605879 [05:47]
mircea_popescu ask that guy. [05:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC [+] [05:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 21 @ 0.5 = 10.5 BTC [+] [05:48]
Chaang-Noi mp one sell off on a thin market, still the only real asic company out there [05:48]
Chaang-Noi bfl had a non updated lol [05:48]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi operations were never their problem. [05:48]
mircea_popescu but theres a LOT more to success than just that. [05:48]
mircea_popescu as unromantic as this may sound, it's true. [05:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.5 = 1 BTC [+] [05:49]
Bugpowder_ ah, that thread was the one I was thinking of for the girl's estimates [05:49]
Chaang-Noi dividends wont end anytime soon, not sure what the value really should be at but im not selling mine:) [05:49]
ThickAsThieves you sold some to me a month ago ;) [05:49]
ThickAsThieves .425 [05:49]
topace !ticker h vtx [05:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.50000000 / 0.72040307 / 0.79900000 (418 shares, 301.12848142 BTC), 7D: 0.38280000 / 0.41873282 / 0.79900000 (11129 shares, 4660.07750417 BTC), 30D: 0.38280000 / 0.41873282 / 0.79900000 (11129 shares, 4660.07750417 BTC) [05:49]
Chaang-Noi yeah im not selling more, i had to get some cash [05:50]
mircea_popescu lol right. well done topace [05:50]
mircea_popescu 2x asicminer volume yest. why is that ? is cavirtex a larger corp than asicminer ? [05:50]
Bowjob canadians love their companies [05:50]
mircea_popescu at the rate this is going, it's gonna be actually. [05:50]
Chaang-Noi you cant see asicminer trade volume mp, only one of two pt [05:50]
mircea_popescu unless they fuck up their registrations [05:51]
topace !ticker h sdice [05:51]
assbot [HAVELOCK:SDICE] 1D: 0.45000000 / 0.48185851 / 0.52000000 (265 shares, 127.69250459 BTC), 7D: 0.40000000 / 0.48015951 / 0.53000000 (1375 shares, 660.21932648 BTC), 30D: 0.37000000 / 0.54970142 / 0.69400000 (5906 shares, 3246.53658408 BTC) [05:51]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi listen, this is a nonargument. [05:51]
ThickAsThieves several people starting pumpin VTX at around .5 [05:51]
ThickAsThieves started* [05:51]
mircea_popescu the fact that i can't see it speaks against it not excusing it. [05:51]
Bowjob i couldnt understand the vtx pump either, i missed it [05:51]
topace yea pretty nuts [05:51]
topace and 0 dividend announced for vtx [05:51]
Chaang-Noi why are you talking about the trade volume if it is a nonargumnt? im just saying you cant see the real trade volume, that is a fact :/ [05:51]
Bowjob any more ipos, topace [05:51]
mircea_popescu incredibly people are still betting yes on bfl : https://twitter.com/BitBetsBets/status/316395891206549505 [05:51]
topace Bowjob: not in the immediate future [05:52]
Chaang-Noi mircea_popescu> 2x asicminer volume yest. why is that ? is cavirtex a larger corp than asicminer ? i was answering this question [05:52]
Bowjob i was wrong about vtx, i didnt see any dividends, i didnt think it was gonna get funded [05:52]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi the trade volume IS the controlling argument. [05:52]
Bowjob much to my chargrin [05:52]
dub dude people bet on pirate for how long after he split? [05:52]
mircea_popescu the fact that asicminer fucked up their ipo is NOT an excuse for them [05:52]
Bowjob i learned though, if i see huge volume.. [05:52]
mircea_popescu but the very problem they face. [05:52]
Bowjob get in11 [05:52]
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mircea_popescu dub this is a point. [05:52]
topace yea VTX sold out in ~12 hours.. WITHOUT any pre-announcement of when teh IPO was happening [05:52]
Chaang-Noi but you dont even know what the vo;lume is, but i still disagree, some private companies are worth more than highly traded ones [05:52]
topace and the owner (joseph) didnt even email his user base to tell them about it either [05:53]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi i know what the volume is. this : [05:53]
mircea_popescu !ticker btct asicminer-pt [05:53]
assbot [BTCT:ASICMINER-PT] 1D: 0.75 / 0.78997 / 0.829 (288 shares, 227.5 BTC), 7D: 0.75 / 0.82809 / 0.93 (1620 shares, 1341.5 BTC), 30D: 0.65 / 0.77385 / 1 (4528 shares, 3504 BTC) [05:53]
mircea_popescu THAT is the volume. everything else is bullshit. [05:53]
Chaang-Noi that is one pt [05:53]
mircea_popescu we have standards in btc, we stick to them. [05:53]
Bowjob it was on the website on cavirtex.. i remember [05:53]
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Bowjob that they will announce an ipo soon [05:53]
Chaang-Noi pt is pass though, it is not real stock [05:53]
mircea_popescu people who think they're smarter are much akin to the street prophets in ny. [05:53]
ThickAsThieves ฿215.44022652vol on BF [05:53]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi exactly. [05:53]
ThickAsThieves too [05:53]
Chaang-Noi standards in btc? lol [05:53]
mircea_popescu yes. [05:53]
topace Bowjob: yea it was announced on the website, but if you werent on teh website when it happened you wouldnt even have known [05:54]
topace i was baffled why he didnt want to announce it at least a few days ahead of time [05:54]
Chaang-Noi you show me one volume of one pt and say it means something about the company? im not the only one who would think that is silly [05:54]
topace give people time to prep and move funds to havelock [05:54]
dub sounds like an evoorhees move [05:54]
dub ie, stupid [05:54]
topace haha [05:54]
ThickAsThieves BCTC only holds 5342 shares [05:54]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi you may not be the only one that thinks that's silly, but that's quite irrelevant. [05:54]
mircea_popescu topace you gotta show people the light moar. [05:54]
Bowjob mp, what happened to the avalon bet [05:55]
Bowjob i dont see it on bitbet [05:55]
Chaang-Noi oh mp, tisk tisk tisk :) [05:55]
ThickAsThieves topace, whatever you did worked just fine [05:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00449999 = 1.35 BTC [-] [05:55]
mircea_popescu Bowjob did it close ? [05:55]
Bowjob yeah it should be closed [05:55]
Chaang-Noi i think your just jelly it is not on your exchange and you did not invest with them:) [05:55]
Bowjob but i dont see it anywgere [05:55]
topace hehe yea, i didnt do _anything_ all we did was put the banner on the www.cavirtex.com website and a news article on havelock website [05:55]
Bowjob when i type avalon [05:55]
mircea_popescu Bowjob then are you searching on the closed ones ? [05:55]
Bowjob mhm [05:55]
topace thats all it needed apparently [05:56]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi ya dude, totally. the fact that they failed to meet spec is something that makes me jelly. [05:56]
mircea_popescu the fact that they've cost their investors 100k btc or so makes me jelly. [05:56]
mircea_popescu i'm jelly to my ears, srsly. [05:56]
Bowjob oh, found it [05:56]
ThickAsThieves maybe YOU didnt do this, but the asset also had a nice prospectus, and a video [05:56]
Chaang-Noi 100,000 btc? lol you trollin? [05:56]
mircea_popescu no. [05:56]
topace ThickAsThieves: yea, we delayed it 3 times due to prospectus re-writes [05:56]
Bowjob so topace how are investors gonna get paid [05:56]
mircea_popescu read the forum threads linked above, i won't bother rehashing it. [05:56]
Chaang-Noi how did they lose 100k btc then, lol [05:56]
Bowjob i didnt see any dividends back [05:56]
mircea_popescu that's what i pay pr for after all. [05:56]
Bowjob on the sheet [05:56]
topace pure growth stock? [05:57]
topace im sure there'll be dividends eventually [05:57]
Bowjob I'm interested on the leveraged trading, [05:57]
Chaang-Noi cant back up crazy claim, says not trollin, lol [05:57]
topace they just havent been announced yet [05:57]
Bowjob i can lend some btc there, have 12% guaranteed [05:57]
mircea_popescu Chaang-Noi https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=151265.msg1605879#msg1605879 <<< read. [05:57]
Bowjob if you watched the video.. he mentioned the leverage as part of cavirtex [05:57]
dub all I see is sour grapes tbh [05:57]
ThickAsThieves regarding asicminer, its still a very small amount of shares even being traded [05:57]
Bowjob so i assume he's gonna need osme btc [05:57]
mircea_popescu and in general, when you're sent to do reading it's because you're sprouting nonsense. [05:58]
Bowjob and its guaranteed since i think they'll make people put up collateral [05:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01965 BTC [+] [05:58]
topace Bowjob: yes, the leveraged trading will happen on virtex, using the short fund on havelock as collateral [05:58]
dub as ThickAsThieves is saying there is no market for AM beyond a couple of pissant PTs and some forum auctions [05:58]
mircea_popescu dub that's exactly what "blowing your ipo" is. [05:58]
Chaang-Noi you wanted me to read inauncall your girl names? [05:58]
mircea_popescu you're going "dude, i'm missing an eye and both legs" [05:58]
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mircea_popescu yes dude, you are. that's what fucking up is. missing body parts. [05:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.75449999 = 6.036 BTC [+] [05:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.7545 BTC [+] [05:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.755 = 3.775 BTC [+] [05:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.75999996 = 2.28 BTC [+] [05:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 19 @ 0.75999998 = 14.44 BTC [+] [05:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.76 = 2.28 BTC [+] [05:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.765 BTC [+] [05:59]
Bowjob ooh [05:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.76 BTC [-] [05:59]
ThickAsThieves bam! [05:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.68 = 1.36 BTC [-] [05:59]
Bowjob crazy [05:59]
Bowjob imo best investments as a growth stock.. [05:59]
Bowjob asicminer. and HIM at havelock [05:59]
Bowjob nice btc multiplier [05:59]
mircea_popescu what's him ? [05:59]
topace mircea_popescu: my mining fund [05:59]
Bowjob same as asicminer, tho smaller [05:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8273 @ 0.00064056 = 5.2994 BTC [-] [06:00]
Bowjob the only thing that bothers me is that you took bfl pre orders [06:00]
topace mircea_popescu: yea, until fucking BFL delivers [06:00]
mircea_popescu topace those do poorly historically. what's it got, fpga ? [06:00]
topace yea about 22GH atm, all FPGA [06:00]
topace since like, last summer [06:00]
Namworld VTX is going nicely [06:00]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=147613.msg1676943#msg1676943 << lol bitbillions guy is still at it [06:00]
topace but we only pay out ~50% as dividends, with extra being reinvested [06:01]
topace in new hardware [06:01]
Bowjob did you order any avalons [06:01]
topace so its not like lame gigaminer where you're buying a certian mh/s [06:01]
topace your share is always your percent share of the total [06:01]
Namworld oh, don't tell me about it... [06:01]
Bowjob yeah thats a pretty good fund, i like it... but. dat bfl [06:01]
mircea_popescu topace that's saner. [06:01]
topace indeed [06:01]
Bowjob they are pretty silent over there, josh is just going insulting people on the forums [06:02]
Bowjob as usual [06:02]
topace we were even outdoiing network increases and raising dividends [06:02]
topace due to the reinvestment in new fpga's [06:02]
topace until a few months ago [06:02]
topace when all the ASIC shit hit the fan [06:02]
topace but... we also have 1.8Th on pre-order, and most of which will be paid for with re-invested earnings (so no need to issue new units to buy the units up front) [06:03]
topace thanks to the btc appreciation [06:03]
topace what we had saved to buy asics to cover 4-6 units, now will cover pretty much all 30 units we have on preorder [06:03]
mircea_popescu topace the pre-order is on bfl ? [06:04]
topace yea [06:04]
mircea_popescu ouch [06:04]
topace dating back to the first week of pre-orders [06:04]
Bowjob that bothers me, lol [06:04]
Bowjob how much was the 1.5 minirig [06:04]
Bowjob in btc [06:04]
mircea_popescu a, it's not paid yet ? [06:04]
topace yea, starting to really bother me too.. however -- its not paid for with HIM funds [06:04]
mircea_popescu so basically you hold the early option to 1.8th of bfl [06:04]
topace its all paid for with my personal funds [06:04]
mircea_popescu at a fixed early price ? [06:04]
mircea_popescu uh [06:05]
topace when they are sitting on my desk, HIM buys them from ME [06:05]
mircea_popescu o i c. [06:05]
mircea_popescu you fool :D [06:05]
topace at a markup of course [06:05]
topace hehe, worked well for the fpga's [06:05]
topace bfl will deliver [06:05]
mircea_popescu next thing out of my mouth was "so are you lending stock ?" but averted. [06:05]
topace just a matter of when [06:05]
Bowjob 31 BTC says not until july at least [06:05]
Bowjob http://bitbet.us/bet/307/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-july-1st/ [06:06]
Bowjob mhm, maybe its a good idea to make my own mini farm starting with 1 avalon [06:06]
Chaang-Noi i think im going to lose my bet thinking bfl would ship this month, lol [06:06]
Bowjob have them multiply [06:06]
Chaang-Noi oh well [06:06]
Bowjob i'll drive my parents nuts [06:06]
jcpham shipping april 1st [06:06]
mircea_popescu "The other factor, of course, is that Bitcoin can't be manipulated as easily as gold and silver obviously are. " [06:06]
Chaang-Noi perfect day for bfl [06:06]
mircea_popescu dude wat [06:06]
Chaang-Noi fools day, lol [06:06]
Bowjob the first buyers were better off holding btc [06:07]
ThickAsThieves that would be perfect [06:07]
Chaang-Noi i went long on bitcoinica :) [06:07]
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mircea_popescu anyone know the bitcoinity ppl ? [06:09]
mircea_popescu ty [06:10]
ThickAsThieves ;;goxlag [06:11]
gribble 0 seconds [06:11]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [06:11]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.60501, Best ask: 75.69800, Bid-ask spread: 0.09299, Last trade: 75.60500, 24 hour volume: 80478.52504177, 24 hour low: 69.80000, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 74.59924 [06:11]
topace anywho, im off [06:12]
topace later! [06:12]
Bowjob pce [06:12]
Bowjob i wonder if there's gonna be a bet before may 1st avalon [06:14]
Bowjob err.. i meant bfl [06:14]
Bowjob or we just go straight to july [06:14]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C630T] 1000 @ 0.19996944 = 199.9694 BTC [+] [06:14]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 1000 @ 0.22859638 = 228.5964 BTC [+] [06:14]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C650T] 1000 @ 0.17290381 = 172.9038 BTC [06:14]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C690T] 1000 @ 0.12457025 = 124.5703 BTC [06:14]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C670T] 1000 @ 0.14768862 = 147.6886 BTC [06:14]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C710T] 1000 @ 0.10373103 = 103.731 BTC [+] [06:14]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1000 @ 0.06926151 = 69.2615 BTC [+] [06:15]
mircea_popescu o hey [06:15]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1000 @ 0.08527783 = 85.2778 BTC [+] [06:15]
mircea_popescu !ticker m ^oix [06:15]
assbot [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 48.45538965 / 66.4177076 / 76.84005554 (33537 shares, 2,737.95 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) [06:15]
Bowjob someones making bank [06:15]
mircea_popescu these need like what, 79 or so ? [06:15]
ThickAsThieves correct [06:16]
tiberiusiv mp: are you under the assumption options tend to predict the future? [06:16]
ThickAsThieves sentiment can become self-fulfilling, like chart-reading [06:16]
tiberiusiv options tend to expire worthless [06:17]
ThickAsThieves like debates with you? [06:17]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.75999999 BTC [-] [06:18]
ThickAsThieves sry that was called for [06:18]
tiberiusiv you never have anything to debate [06:18]
ThickAsThieves wasnt [06:18]
ThickAsThieves lol [06:18]
ThickAsThieves we havent debated? oh [06:18]
mircea_popescu tiberiusiv did you read the oix article ? [06:20]
tiberiusiv mircea_popescu: i think mpex shares declined due to missing out on the cavirtex ipo [06:20]
mircea_popescu what, thre's some golden rule that all ipos must happen on mpex or something ? [06:21]
tiberiusiv cavirtex may have been the most successful ipo to date? [06:21]
tiberiusiv i dont even think sdice sold out that fast [06:21]
tiberiusiv mircea: well, it would have been nice that the higher quality issuances use mpex [06:22]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 1000 @ 0.22856513 = 228.5651 BTC [-] [06:22]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C650T] 1000 @ 0.17285328 = 172.8533 BTC [-] [06:22]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C670T] 1000 @ 0.1476286 = 147.6286 BTC [-] [06:22]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C710T] 1000 @ 0.10365616 = 103.6562 BTC [-] [06:22]
mircea_popescu you were just born last night so you think this morning is "the best morning to date". [06:22]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1000 @ 0.08519875 = 85.1988 BTC [-] [06:22]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1000 @ 0.06918073 = 69.1807 BTC [-] [06:22]
mircea_popescu for the record, bitbet is a tiny corp and collected something like that. [06:22]
mircea_popescu s.dice got 50k or so in ipo funds. [06:22]
tiberiusiv bitbet collected $300k ? [06:22]
tiberiusiv how when most of the shares are still for sale [06:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.69 BTC [+] [06:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.681 BTC [-] [06:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.68 = 1.36 BTC [-] [06:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.68 = 2.04 BTC [-] [06:23]
ThickAsThieves what is your point tib? that mpex must bow to havelock? [06:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.67 = 1.34 BTC [-] [06:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.66 = 2.64 BTC [-] [06:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 8 @ 0.6591 = 5.2728 BTC [-] [06:23]
mircea_popescu o boy. [06:23]
tiberiusiv thickasthieves: no it was just interesting to see the stock price react [06:23]
ThickAsThieves did it? [06:24]
tiberiusiv it went down like 15% [06:24]
ThickAsThieves which are you refering to? [06:24]
tiberiusiv http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.MPOE [06:24]
mircea_popescu yeah, well, prices vary a lot more than that for a lot less reason. [06:24]
mircea_popescu s.dice went to 0.008 one day just so. [06:24]
ThickAsThieves lol [06:24]
ThickAsThieves whats was the volume? [06:24]
Bowjob like a fuckton [06:24]
Bowjob 400 worth of btc was it [06:24]
tiberiusiv asicminer tanked too ? [06:24]
mircea_popescu Bowjob huge, like 1mn shares [06:25]
ThickAsThieves yeah AM forked [06:25]
Bowjob yeah so around 4k btc worth... at the time? [06:25]
Bowjob i remember the fiat value was about 80k usd [06:25]
tiberiusiv so what exactly is asicminer? avalons equipment [06:25]
tiberiusiv and they payout what they mined [06:26]
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Bowjob it was equally painful and pleasurable for the parties [06:26]
tiberiusiv or were they using asicminer shares to finance avalon orders lol [06:26]
Bowjob involved in the 0.008 transaction [06:26]
Bowjob well i asume its painful for just 1 party lol [06:26]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [+] [06:27]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.75 = 1.5 BTC [+] [06:27]
ThickAsThieves asicminer up 12% [06:27]
ThickAsThieves ;) [06:27]
tiberiusiv i think over the longrun you will be better off just owning btc outright then btc companies [06:27]
mircea_popescu lol ThickAsThieves [06:27]
tiberiusiv same thing applied to gold [06:27]
mircea_popescu there never were "gold companies" [06:28]
tiberiusiv miners [06:28]
mircea_popescu this is not what btc companies are. [06:28]
tiberiusiv theres also been countless gold transfer firms that have busted too [06:28]
tiberiusiv btc companies work for short time periods before competition becomes intense [06:28]
mircea_popescu still not a valid comparison. [06:29]
mircea_popescu listen, you have this broken approach to learning whereby you make definitive statements that are both wrong and uninformed [06:29]
mircea_popescu with the expectation someone will argue you into sense. [06:29]
mircea_popescu this is unwarranted, nobody really cares. [06:29]
tiberiusiv really they are wrong? like mtgox losing market share for 2 years? [06:29]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C710T] 5 @ 0.119 = 0.595 BTC [+] [06:29]
mircea_popescu this isn't a school setting and you're certainly not the clever kid in the class or anything. [06:29]
tiberiusiv and mpex having no listings outside of sdice [06:29]
mircea_popescu and you can't manipulate me into it either, simply because of the size differential. [06:30]
tiberiusiv you can make all the statements you want mp, facts speak for themselves and mpex has 1 firm on it that is not related to mpex. [06:30]
tiberiusiv mpex's only "edge" so far is its dominance of option trading [06:31]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 8 @ 0.0981512 = 0.7852 BTC [+] [06:32]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 10 @ 0.10153501 = 1.0154 BTC [+] [06:32]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 600 @ 0.086 = 51.6 BTC [+] [06:32]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 10 @ 0.09959 = 0.9959 BTC [+] [06:32]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 5 @ 0.0869 = 0.4345 BTC [-] [06:32]
ThickAsThieves My first day trading options on MPEX and I'm up 22.5%, heyo! [06:35]
ThickAsThieves similar reports will not be given when i lose [06:35]
Namworld lol >.> [06:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 14 @ 0.344 = 4.816 BTC [+] [06:37]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 600 @ 0.06917259 = 41.5036 BTC [-] [06:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 6 @ 0.34999 = 2.0999 BTC [+] [06:38]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 400 @ 0.06917259 = 27.669 BTC [-] [06:39]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [06:39]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.00002, Best ask: 75.51612, Bid-ask spread: 0.51610, Last trade: 75.51612, 24 hour volume: 80957.53550534, 24 hour low: 70.78624, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 74.64243 [06:39]
Namworld and bids are increasing [06:41]
ThickAsThieves ;;bids 70 [06:42]
gribble There are currently 10614.009 bitcoins demanded at or over 70.0 USD, worth 759660.325336 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0074 seconds [06:42]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 80 [06:42]
gribble There are currently 9697.4468 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 761706.200795 USD in total. | Data vintage: 3.0644 seconds [06:42]
ThickAsThieves fight! [06:42]
Namworld eheh [06:43]
Namworld I could see us reaching 100... or at least hitting against the resistance there. [06:43]
Namworld But I want price to crash [06:43]
Namworld Just reaching 100 would be fun [06:44]
Bowjob you bought puts? [06:44]
Namworld nay [06:44]
Namworld Well... [06:44]
Namworld I got puts at 31 from the beggining of the month >.> [06:44]
Bowjob eh, im in this for the long haul, let the bears have their fun [06:44]
Namworld I could sell them into the 2 satoshi bids... [06:44]
Bowjob in the form of flash crashes [06:44]
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Bowjob honestly, i have no clue about crashes.. im sure no one really knows for sure [06:45]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 90 @ 0.00492 = 0.4428 BTC [+] [06:46]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-] [06:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.69 BTC [-] [06:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.68 BTC [-] [06:47]
Bowjob well if btc crashes to 31, ian will turn legit [06:47]
Namworld Let the price flash crash to 0.01 USD per BTC (MtGox hax #2) [06:48]
Namworld ;;bids 0 [06:48]
pigeons people are paying a lot of money for virtex [06:48]
gribble There are currently 36697360 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 8718811.60498 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0179 seconds [06:48]
Namworld VTX? [06:49]
pigeons yes [06:49]
pigeons !ticker h VTX [06:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.50000000 / 0.72102007 / 0.79900000 (428 shares, 308.59659097 BTC), 7D: 0.38280000 / 0.41994834 / 0.79900000 (11169 shares, 4690.40300358 BTC), 30D: 0.38280000 / 0.41994834 / 0.79900000 (11169 shares, 4690.40300358 BTC) [06:49]
Namworld pigeons, remember that most stuff on Havelock go to 10% or under per year [06:49]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [+] [06:49]
Namworld well there's only 2 cases other than SDICE... not really representative... [06:49]
Namworld but people pay a good price/income on there [06:50]
pigeons i mean people are paying a lot of money for mpoe [06:50]
Namworld but assuming a minimum of 1k BTC traded daily and average of 2% fees. [06:50]
Namworld That's 20 BTC daily or 0.0002 per share [06:51]
Namworld so 0.073 per year [06:51]
Namworld if that's 10% per year, than price should be at least 0.73 [06:51]
tiberiusiv pigeons: virtex is real canadian shares though [06:51]
Namworld That too... [06:51]
tiberiusiv pigeons: they have to be audited etc. [06:51]
pigeons we've seen what that's worth [06:52]
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Bowjob http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI2LVH4JfV0 [06:52]
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Bowjob why litecoin will beat bitcoin [06:52]
tiberiusiv litecoin is a joke [06:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+] [06:53]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C610T] 1000 @ 0.22859638 = 228.5964 BTC [+] [06:54]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C650T] 1000 @ 0.17282361 = 172.8236 BTC [-] [06:54]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C670T] 1000 @ 0.14756634 = 147.5663 BTC [-] [06:54]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C710T] 1000 @ 0.10353607 = 103.5361 BTC [-] [06:54]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1000 @ 0.08505736 = 85.0574 BTC [-] [06:54]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1000 @ 0.06902428 = 69.0243 BTC [-] [06:54]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1000 @ 0.08 = 80 BTC [+] [06:54]
pigeons wait they charge 2% on the btc side of the trade? [06:54]
Bowjob yeah both sides [06:55]
Bowjob fiat and btc side [06:55]
pigeons Ukto: you need to get some of that market [06:56]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C690T] 1000 @ 0.12440874 = 124.4087 BTC [-] [06:56]
pigeons i had a guy tell me yesterday he wanted to deposit cad with weex but was afraid since the market was so thin, he'd have to pay the 4.50$ withdraw fee [06:57]
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tiberiusiv lol [06:58]
tiberiusiv cavirtex fees will be down alot by the end of the year [06:59]
tiberiusiv so far cavirtex is the fastest withdraw/deposit exchange available [06:59]
tiberiusiv under 2hrs to fund in canada, and same day withdrawls [07:00]
pigeons that is fast [07:00]
mircea_popescu bitcoin-central does the same thing really. [07:00]
tiberiusiv only downside is its mostly catering to canadians at this point [07:00]
tiberiusiv can i fund bitcoin-central in 20,000 locations? [07:00]
mircea_popescu in about two million. [07:01]
tiberiusiv without having to deal with charlie shrem and bitinstant [07:01]
mircea_popescu or w/e banking locatyions there are in the sepa zone. [07:01]
mircea_popescu yes. [07:01]
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toffoo mircea_popescu: have you gotten any further along in trying to short asicminer? [07:01]
mircea_popescu they're what cavirtex aspires to be. banking partners and all. [07:01]
tiberiusiv true SEPA is nice [07:01]
mircea_popescu toffoo only in the sense bugpowder is now also looking for shares. [07:01]
toffoo to short? [07:01]
mircea_popescu yea [07:01]
tiberiusiv mircea: how deep is bitcoin-central order book [07:02]
mircea_popescu not very. [07:02]
toffoo if you could borrow them, how/where would you sell them? [07:02]
mircea_popescu toffoo i'd have a broker sell them for me. [07:02]
toffoo where? [07:02]
mircea_popescu wherever they are [07:02]
tiberiusiv toffoo: on the exchange they trade at [07:03]
toffoo the liquidity on the two passthroughs is low (especially on the bid side) [07:03]
ChaangNoi asicminer is not listed on an exchange, it is not publicly traded, the stuff on the exchanges are just pt's sorta [07:03]
swhitt bioshock infinittte! [07:04]
mircea_popescu toffoo yea well, i wouldn't borrow mystical "asciminer" shares. i'd borrow actual tradeable instruments. [07:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5450 @ 0.00064056 = 3.4911 BTC [-] [07:04]
ChaangNoi most of the volume of asic miner is traded otc on the forum [07:04]
toffoo has anyone made you a real offer to loan them? INAU? [07:04]
mircea_popescu toffoo he made a fool of himself, as in, went all tough into offering them but then failed to actually go through. [07:04]
mircea_popescu not sure what his thinking was exactly. [07:05]
toffoo how many are you thinking of shorting? (roughly) [07:05]
ChaangNoi i thought about it, but i did not think the pay off of 1% or so was worth the risk of putting them on an exchange [07:05]
mircea_popescu i dunno, a few thousand ? [07:05]
toffoo I was thinking about it too (loaning them) [07:05]
mircea_popescu what sort of term can you live with ? [07:06]
toffoo but at first glance it didn't seem like a very good idea ... [07:06]
toffoo but i thought about it a little deeper today, [07:06]
ChaangNoi have you seen the bids on the PT's ? not many, also when it is time to buy back, you might not has the asks... this might not be a good thing to short (if you do a pt) [07:06]
mircea_popescu well as a rule of thumb, if loaning them isn't a good idea selling them usually is a good idea. [07:06]
toffoo and maybe came up with an idea that makes more sense (for both parties) [07:06]
mircea_popescu outside of cp risk consideratios [07:06]
mircea_popescu toffoo a good starting point would be the old short contract i made for public use [07:07]
tiberiusiv http://www.bitcoincard.org/ [07:07]
toffoo it was the cp risk considerations that I didn't like [07:07]
tiberiusiv whatever happend to this? [07:07]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mphf.txt [07:07]
toffoo lemme take a look at that ... [07:07]
Bowjob https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=157951.msg1677720#msg1677720 [07:07]
Bowjob still deciding if this guy can be trusted or not [07:07]
Bowjob he seems to want an avalon 3 [07:07]
ChaangNoi are they even still forsale? [07:08]
tiberiusiv the local begger [07:08]
ChaangNoi loaning btc is just asking for it to be gone... [07:08]
tiberiusiv 0.5btc says he spends his borrowed funds on sdice [07:09]
mircea_popescu Bowjob i wouldn't be borrowing btc to unheard of ppl. [07:09]
toffoo mircea_popescu: so did that trade actually happen? [07:09]
mircea_popescu yeah [07:09]
Bowjob yes yes of course. he's an uknown.. [07:10]
toffoo my condolences ?? [07:10]
mircea_popescu why ? [07:10]
mircea_popescu expired worthless. [07:10]
toffoo so you didn't sell the shares you borrowed? [07:10]
mircea_popescu i did sell them, yes. [07:10]
mircea_popescu did you actually read that thing ? [07:11]
toffoo just skimmed it ;D [07:11]
toffoo so you covered a long time ago? [07:11]
mircea_popescu yes well that doesn't work too well for contracts. [07:11]
mircea_popescu no. [07:11]
ThickAsThieves when mpex call options book is empty, then what? [07:11]
mircea_popescu it.expired.worthless. [07:11]
mircea_popescu "And that the Lendee shall cause the shares be returned to the Lender on December [07:11]
mircea_popescu the 19th, 2012, or at his preference pay their value calculated as the average [07:11]
mircea_popescu price during the past five days, except if ASICMINER should have become disconti [07:11]
mircea_popescu nued or are no longer traded in which case a token payment of 1 BTC shall be suf [07:11]
mircea_popescu ficient." [07:11]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves then nothing ? or what you mean [07:11]
tiberiusiv thickasthieves: his bot will just fill it up. [07:12]
ThickAsThieves thx [07:12]
ThickAsThieves is that on a schedule or? [07:12]
mircea_popescu yeah about ten minutes or so roughly. [07:12]
tiberiusiv along with trades [07:13]
ChaangNoi did you pay the 1 btc? [07:13]
mircea_popescu iirc yea [07:13]
ThickAsThieves thx [07:14]
ChaangNoi well asicminer is still traded just otc and not on an exchange. [07:14]
Namworld Yeah. I got a whole BTC to show for that contract >.> [07:14]
mircea_popescu yeah but as i said above, " toffoo yea well, i wouldn't borrow mystical "asciminer" shares. i'd borrow actual tradeable instruments." [07:14]
Namworld I just really wasn't expecting GLBSE to go down. [07:15]
ChaangNoi however it would be hard to find an average price [07:15]
mircea_popescu ChaangNoi exactly. [07:15]
mircea_popescu there's no practical way to do stuff like shorting unless there's functioning markets. [07:15]
ChaangNoi i agree [07:15]
mircea_popescu which is why stupid shit like what friedcat is pulling is at best harmful [07:15]
ChaangNoi that is why i think it is very hard to short this stock [07:15]
mircea_popescu if he's not outright scamming. [07:15]
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ChaangNoi shorting a pt is risky [07:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [-] [07:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.69 = 1.38 BTC [-] [07:16]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.68 BTC [-] [07:16]
ChaangNoi i dont think he is scamming, he just does not want a second glbse fail, this is him making sure he wont lose money again [07:16]
mircea_popescu i don't think he is either. [07:17]
ChaangNoi it is susspected nefario took some of the shares and claimed them as his own, [07:17]
mircea_popescu honestly i think he failed to uinderstand that operations is just piece of the pie, not the whole pie [07:17]
mircea_popescu had some "helpers" of the typical sort doing an exchange [07:17]
mircea_popescu which failed [07:17]
mircea_popescu and got himself stuck and with no time to handle things. [07:17]
ChaangNoi his goal was to get the money to make the stuff, he has it, he could care less about the share price as he will no longer sell shares [07:17]
mircea_popescu yes well... [07:17]
mircea_popescu that's asinine. [07:17]
ChaangNoi he and many of us, are in it for the dividends, not share price [07:17]
mircea_popescu that's besides the point. [07:18]
mircea_popescu when you run a public company you owe your shareholders some basic stuff. [07:18]
ChaangNoi he wont sell shares if the price is .001 or 20 btc he does not need an exchange [07:18]
mircea_popescu the time/effort he put into handmanaging email transfers by now is an eyesore in his books [07:18]
mircea_popescu (which he prolly doesn't actually keep) [07:18]
ChaangNoi he is letting us trade the shares, he is letting us do PTs [07:18]
ChaangNoi the time he spends on that is better than a second glbse fail [07:19]
ChaangNoi he lots a lot of btc and a lot of people lots shares [07:19]
mircea_popescu yeah, he misjudged glbse at that time. [07:19]
mircea_popescu this doesn't mean anything about the world [07:19]
mircea_popescu it just means something about his financial competence. [07:19]
ChaangNoi he thinks at this time there is not a safe exchange to list at [07:19]
toffoo actually asicminer was way ahead of the game in predicting glbse's demise ... [07:20]
mircea_popescu no, he just thinks he doesn't have a clue about such matters. [07:20]
ChaangNoi i have no problem with the way he is doing things honestly [07:20]
mircea_popescu anyway, at about the same time asicminer got started i wanted to list mpoe. [07:20]
mircea_popescu it was obvious to me glbse is going to shit, and so i saw myself forced to make an exchang [07:20]
mircea_popescu there's a difference. [07:20]
mircea_popescu toffoo notrly. [07:20]
toffoo yes rly [07:20]
mircea_popescu they're still 1-2k btc locked in there aren't they [07:20]
ChaangNoi he is not in the business of making an exchange, his skills is making asics, or if he can do both, the better money for his time is asics [07:21]
mircea_popescu this is not predicting anything, keeping 1k+ in cash on global scam exchange. [07:21]
mircea_popescu ChaangNoi this fails to explain why he said he was making one. [07:21]
ChaangNoi glbse was going down hill, nefario was a nutter [07:21]
mircea_popescu actually... promised to. [07:21]
mircea_popescu ChaangNoi bitch, quit it. you were his main supporter back in september when i was the only one saying this [07:21]
ChaangNoi mp he might have started to make one, but found it not safe or that he was too busy making asics to finish [07:21]
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mircea_popescu no. he promised an exchange, he failed to deliver it, never mentioned it again [07:22]
ChaangNoi lol yeah nefario and i have always been close [07:22]
mircea_popescu stop trying to alter history on me, i won't let it pass. [07:22]
mircea_popescu yes, you have. [07:22]
mircea_popescu up until he up and kicked you. [07:22]
ChaangNoi lol you forget when he tried to kick me before? [07:22]
mircea_popescu what the fuck do you think, my memory is three months long like the forums ? [07:22]
toffoo i'd say the forum is < 1 week [07:23]
mircea_popescu toffoo that's a point. [07:23]
ChaangNoi i called nefario a scammer before he kicked me, and 6 months before that i would not give him my id cuz i said he could not be trusted and his site was not safe.. the forum posts are still there [07:24]
ChaangNoi he said he was going to kick me but never did, he backed down [07:24]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=157789.msg1677033#msg1677033 [07:24]
mircea_popescu lmao! this is TOTALLY glbse all over again [07:24]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [-] [07:26]
ChaangNoi odd [07:26]
tiberiusiv how convenient they register in delaware [07:26]
ChaangNoi well, it is a real company [07:26]
tiberiusiv most secretive laws regarding corps [07:26]
mircea_popescu msot everyone registers there [07:27]
ChaangNoi i would say it is not exactly like glbse and theymos unless there is stuff going on i dont know about [07:27]
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tiberiusiv yes for tax and secrecy [07:27]
mircea_popescu yeah [07:27]
mircea_popescu and for speed and cheapness and really... that's what delaware does [07:27]
mircea_popescu sorta like idaho and potatoes [07:27]
mircea_popescu "Looking to borrow 600 BTC @ 3.5% weekly ianbakewell" << heh [07:27]
toffoo nevada is pretty good too (for registering, not potatoes) [07:27]
Namworld sheesh [07:28]
pigeons i wonder if bakewell is the guy's rea; name [07:28]
ChaangNoi ianbakewell is still around? and asking for money? oh lol [07:29]
Namworld 3.5% weekly [07:29]
mircea_popescu that's the old thread i quoted [07:29]
Namworld I pay 0.21% weekly and I find that a lot. [07:29]
ChaangNoi ok [07:29]
Bowjob its his real name [07:29]
ChaangNoi so? [07:29]
ChaangNoi lots of scammers used their real name [07:29]
mircea_popescu bernie maddoff did [07:30]
pigeons i asked cause its humorous. i know its bad form to make fun of a fellow's name [07:30]
pigeons mernie madoff is funny one too [07:30]
Bowjob the moment of truth for ian is 29th of march [07:30]
Bowjob thats his 1st cheduled payment [07:30]
tiberiusiv he can only make it if the btc price is down [07:30]
Namworld He actually got the 600 BTC? [07:30]
Bowjob yes [07:31]
Namworld what did he spent that on? [07:31]
ChaangNoi he picked a bad time to short btc [07:31]
mircea_popescu Namworld he shorted btc at 30 [07:31]
Bowjob and it says on his sig, short btc at 34.50 [07:31]
tiberiusiv namworld shorted btc [07:31]
pigeons when does he have to rebuy his S.DICE shares too? you know he hasn't done that yet [07:31]
Bowjob that hurts like a bitch [07:31]
Namworld oh... [07:31]
Bowjob thats may [07:31]
Bowjob in may [07:31]
mircea_popescu pigeons prolly after they go to 80 [07:31]
Bowjob TF is on the receiving end of that share short [07:31]
Namworld 25,200 USD lost at 72 USD/BTC [07:31]
Namworld 600x42 [07:31]
Bowjob he did well at shorting s.dice [07:31]
tiberiusiv hence him defaulting [07:31]
Bowjob btc? not so much [07:31]
Bowjob ;;ticker [07:32]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 74.66999, Best ask: 74.67000, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 74.67000, 24 hour volume: 81024.62335997, 24 hour low: 71.25319, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 74.68722 [07:32]
mircea_popescu did he even say what his s.dice short cost basis was ? [07:32]
Bowjob it was 0.62 [07:32]
mircea_popescu a then he's ahead there [07:32]
Bowjob cuz fuck the extra zeros [07:32]
mircea_popescu then be consistent, say 62 [07:32]
tiberiusiv sdice is too dangerous to short because voorhees has 90% of them and can always manipulate earnings [07:32]
Bowjob or .62 [07:32]
mircea_popescu just two digit most relevant works imo [07:32]
Namworld 20k BTC till 95 USD/BTC ... [07:33]
tiberiusiv voorhees can simply use his buying power to bully short sellers into massive losses [07:33]
pigeons well he's trying to have less than 90%, he's working on it [07:33]
mircea_popescu btc is 74, sdice is 45 and smpoe 68 or w/e [07:33]
Bowjob tiber, more conspiracy theories please [07:33]
tiberiusiv pigeons: hell have to fake more playing [07:33]
mircea_popescu tiberiusiv that's really a discredited argument you know. [07:33]
tiberiusiv no it isnt. [07:33]
mircea_popescu right. because you'd know. [07:33]
pigeons tiberiusiv: that's an unproven allegation that we've all been over. we're all interested only if you have some proof [07:33]
tiberiusiv if it was, voorhees wouldnt still have 90% of shares. [07:34]
mircea_popescu think for a moment. if he has 90% of the shares or if he has 500k BTC it's all the same. [07:34]
mircea_popescu plenty of people can bully shorts if they chose to. [07:34]
tiberiusiv the proof is that more people arent willing to buy shares [07:34]
ChaangNoi hokers and blow odds are [07:34]
ChaangNoi seems to be what most do [07:34]
mircea_popescu that's not how proof works, that's how circular arguments work. [07:34]
tiberiusiv mp: id expect you to defend him since your own operations are beyond shady as well. [07:34]
mircea_popescu you know there's a long history of hotheads with nothing to show just like yourself tried that entire approach. [07:35]
mircea_popescu i'm still here. [07:35]
tiberiusiv mpex is what 95% owned by you? theres no way to tell how many of your "options" trades are real [07:35]
mircea_popescu 88% [07:35]
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tiberiusiv you only need to get rid of 10-20% shares at inflated valuations to pocket millions [07:35]
tiberiusiv to gullible idiots [07:35]
toffoo that's bill gates and warren buffet of btc right there [07:35]
mircea_popescu stop running around the field. the point of discussion here is that the holding % makes no difference. [07:35]
mircea_popescu if i have 500k btc in cash and you short something, [07:35]
mircea_popescu ANYTHING [07:35]
mircea_popescu i can burn you. [07:36]
mircea_popescu it's immaterial if this wealth is in shares or btc or anything. [07:36]
tiberiusiv yea and you have proceeds from the existing share sales [07:36]
tiberiusiv so does voorhees [07:36]
tiberiusiv to burn shorts. [07:36]
tiberiusiv that was my entire point [07:36]
mircea_popescu right. so basically your argument reduces to "we can't short bcause we don't control the money supply" [07:36]
mircea_popescu this is true, you don't. [07:36]
mircea_popescu however, needing this argument shows your shorts are a power play, not a market play. [07:36]
mircea_popescu and it is all as it should be : you aren't the ones in power for a very good reason. [07:37]
mircea_popescu that reason is that you suck, however packaged [07:37]
mircea_popescu that you're new, or clueless, or haven't done anything worth the mention. [07:37]
tiberiusiv fact is this, sdice has been around about 1 year now and is so "profitable" yet voorhees cant sell more shares. [07:37]
mircea_popescu power always concentrates in the hand of the elders, and the productive, and the smart. [07:37]
tiberiusiv same with mpex and its 30mil of notional contracts [07:37]
mircea_popescu you presume "can't". [07:37]
tiberiusiv yet nobody wants the shares in mass. [07:37]
mircea_popescu dude srsly. [07:37]
tiberiusiv however a verified business like cavirtex sells out in a few hours. [07:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.74 = 2.22 BTC [+] [07:38]
mircea_popescu fiction is one thing, but you're veering into delusion. [07:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.75 = 1.5 BTC [+] [07:38]
mircea_popescu !ticker m s.mpoe [07:38]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00062546 / 0.000641 / 0.00066783 (305707 shares, 195.96 BTC), 7D: 0.00062546 / 0.00069767 / 0.00077505 (2232450 shares, 1,557.51 BTC), 30D: 0.00061614 / 0.00072244 / 0.00078628 (31470843 shares, 22,735.98 BTC) [07:38]
mircea_popescu !ticker havelock vtx [07:38]
assbot [HAVELOCK:VTX] 1D: 0.50000000 / 0.71964458 / 0.79900000 (408 shares, 293.61499054 BTC), 7D: 0.38280000 / 0.41994834 / 0.79900000 (11169 shares, 4690.40300358 BTC), 30D: 0.38280000 / 0.41994834 / 0.79900000 (11169 shares, 4690.40300358 BTC) [07:38]
mircea_popescu compare 22k to 4k btc. [07:38]
mircea_popescu do you get it now ? [07:38]
mircea_popescu and this was on their motherfucking ipo. [07:38]
tiberiusiv mircea: i am? you only need to dump 10-20% of your grossly overvalued shares to pocket millions [07:38]
mircea_popescu except i'm not doing it, because they're not overvalued. [07:38]
tiberiusiv virtex does a small % of volume compared to what you claim you do [07:38]
mircea_popescu i wouldn't sell my state in s.mpoe for 50mn usd in cash today. [07:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65508 BTC [-] [07:39]
tiberiusiv yea right [07:39]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.6432 BTC [-] [07:39]
mircea_popescu yeah. [07:39]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.63 BTC [-] [07:39]
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mircea_popescu if anything, i'm oversold. s.mpoe is on the long term worth more than jpm. [07:39]
toffoo quote of the day? [07:39]
tiberiusiv yea with all of its 1 unique asset [07:39]
mircea_popescu toffoo totally. [07:39]
mircea_popescu tiberiusiv it's unique asset is me. [07:40]
toffoo put it in your sig [07:40]
mircea_popescu jpm doesn't have a mp equivalent for the fiat space. [07:40]
tiberiusiv mp: yes the typical sociopathic quotes. [07:40]
mircea_popescu since morgan's unfortunate demise early 1900s [07:40]
tiberiusiv mp: and you being in one of the largest fraud centers of the world doesn't help your case either. [07:41]
tiberiusiv romania. [07:41]
mircea_popescu right, because this is thinking. [07:41]
pigeons jp, jr [07:42]
tiberiusiv mp: 10-20% of your shares get sold you pocket millions, on a business where nobody can verify actual activity on. [07:42]
ChaangNoi lol cuz he is in romania must be scam? facepalm [07:42]
mircea_popescu exactly. [07:42]
tiberiusiv anyone can bot up options trades. [07:42]
mircea_popescu this is btc. [07:42]
mircea_popescu the entire point of btc is that nobody can "verify". [07:42]
ChaangNoi im in thailand, i must be a lady boy right? lol [07:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.61 = 2.44 BTC [-] [07:42]
mircea_popescu which is all the better, let the wannabe "verificators" mind their own business. [07:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.66 BTC [-] [07:43]
tiberiusiv chaangnoi: thats why nby credible wants to list on his exchange, romania is internet fraud capital. [07:43]
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mircea_popescu and to be clear : tyhis isn't a "case" im making. this is a political statement. [07:43]
tiberiusiv yes another drawback [07:43]
mircea_popescu bitcoin is exactly about raping the sort of bs you're sprouting. [07:43]
tiberiusiv customers dont want to hear political statements. [07:43]
mircea_popescu i don't need to persuade you that btc is worth something, or that mpoe is worth someting. [07:43]
ChaangNoi lol there are reasons not to use his excahnge, being in romaina is not one of them [07:43]
mircea_popescu i'll justg mind my own business indefinitely and you come crawling whenever you're done lubing yourself up. [07:44]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.63 BTC [+] [07:44]
tiberiusiv mircea: of course you will, you have no problem taking the slow and steady approach of selling worthless shares over a longer time period. [07:44]
mircea_popescu but the fact alone that the "mpoe is worthless" argument reduces to a "btc is worthless" defeated argument from 2011 [07:44]
tiberiusiv why make 1mil when you can make 10 [07:44]
mircea_popescu already is good enough. [07:44]
tiberiusiv btc code can be viewed by anyone [07:44]
mircea_popescu so ? [07:45]
tiberiusiv mpex cant be. [07:45]
mircea_popescu heh. [07:45]
tiberiusiv nobody knows how much of your supposed tens of millions in options is fake. [07:45]
mircea_popescu your argument cvhanged from "i can't verify the identity of users" [07:45]
tiberiusiv hence why you still own 90% [07:45]
tiberiusiv i never argued identify of users [07:45]
tiberiusiv users mean nothing. [07:45]
mircea_popescu ... [07:45]
tiberiusiv nobody on here can verify ANY of the trades/volume mpex does. [07:45]
mircea_popescu nobody knows how much of your supposed tens of millions in options is fake. <<< IDENTITY OF USERS [07:46]
mircea_popescu think more. speak less. [07:46]
tiberiusiv hence why you still own 90% of the company [07:46]
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tiberiusiv i am thinking. [07:46]
mircea_popescu the only reason i own 88% of mpoe is tghat i didn't sell more. [07:46]
mircea_popescu if one day you actually read the statements you'll see it;'s been going down since 99.5% last year. [07:47]
tiberiusiv right same with voorhees [07:47]
mircea_popescu there's clear statements made as to plans, they've been followed, etc. [07:47]
tiberiusiv im not denying that [07:47]
tiberiusiv why wouldnt it be? you need suckers to pay the $ [07:47]
ChaangNoi tiberiusiv sounds like you are jelly :/ [07:47]
mircea_popescu yes dude. just like btc. [07:47]
tiberiusiv nobody issues btc [07:47]
tiberiusiv you issue mpex stock. [07:47]
tiberiusiv clear difference [07:47]
mircea_popescu that's done already. [07:47]
tiberiusiv btc can be auditied you cant be [07:47]
ChaangNoi if you dont like the stock dont buy it, how is that hard? [07:48]
mircea_popescu actually one of the main likely reasons mpoe is worth a lot is exactly that : btc has inflation [07:48]
mircea_popescu s.mpoe does not. [07:48]
tiberiusiv sure it does [07:48]
mircea_popescu so mpoe is becoming / became already the t-bills of btc. [07:48]
tiberiusiv the 88% of shares that havent been dumped yet [07:48]
mircea_popescu those are issued already. [07:48]
tiberiusiv they arent in the market [07:48]
mircea_popescu you're arguing both sides. [07:48]
Namworld that they are or not doesn't change the dividend per share... [07:49]
mircea_popescu if indeed they are worthless then yes they are in the market, burning a hole in my pockets. [07:49]
tiberiusiv you cant sell them becuase there is no bids yet, once you inflate the mpex earnings through faking nearly everything mpex related, bids(gullible idiots) will show up to pay you [07:49]
mircea_popescu sigh. [07:49]
mircea_popescu go harass google, seriously. [07:49]
ChaangNoi lol there are not 10 million bids for btc right now either, lol [07:49]
ChaangNoi btc must be a scam [07:50]
mircea_popescu just as soon as your corp reaches 50mn dollars valuation there's people with nothing in their pocket telling you how your capitalist way are scamming the world [07:50]
tiberiusiv btc is completely different [07:50]
mircea_popescu totally, yeah. [07:50]
tiberiusiv then a stock exchange listing worthless shares [07:50]
tiberiusiv of unverifiable companies [07:50]
mircea_popescu the emperor tiberius has accepted btc, but not mpoe, so this makes them different [07:50]
tiberiusiv anyone can verify BTC integrity [07:50]
mircea_popescu in relevant ways. [07:50]
ChaangNoi dont buy the stock if you dont like it, clearly someone lkes it [07:50]
tiberiusiv of course they do [07:50]
mircea_popescu short it for that matter [07:50]
tiberiusiv theres a gullible idiot born every minute [07:50]
mircea_popescu o wait no, he can't short it cause i have money. [07:50]
mircea_popescu and he doesn't. [07:50]
mircea_popescu but he's totally right. [07:51]
tiberiusiv he only needs to dump a small % to get filthy rich [07:51]
tiberiusiv and in romania, identities are sold by the cart load [07:51]
ChaangNoi in btc land stupid people get to do stupid things with their money, i love freedom [07:51]
mircea_popescu tiberiusiv seriously : if you had a clue you wouldn't be talkign, you would be showing. [07:51]
ChaangNoi tiberiusiv how many years have you spent in romania learning their ways? [07:51]
tiberiusiv chaangnoi: my good friend was from his city [07:51]
tiberiusiv timisoara [07:52]
ChaangNoi so you are an expert about all romanians? [07:52]
mircea_popescu ya, well, then he can prolly tell you all about how trilema was the most read romanian blog for years [07:52]
mircea_popescu since 2009 actually. [07:52]
mircea_popescu whatever happened to eskimobob incidentally ? [07:54]
ChaangNoi .75 seems to be the new AM pt price as a high [07:55]
ChaangNoi not shocked people are selling after the .1 was paid out [07:55]
maximian mircea_popescu I was wondering the same thing. eskimobob = tiberius? [07:55]
mircea_popescu maximian nah, im pretty sure they're different. [07:55]
tiberiusiv i dont know who that is [07:55]
mircea_popescu i mean, still the same 20 something aspirational kid, but eskimobob was kinda esl. [07:55]
maximian yeah, and he was more into muttering to himself [07:56]
mircea_popescu tiberiusiv the previous installment of "i won't read because i know better scammors!" [07:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6077 @ 0.00064056 = 3.8927 BTC [-] [07:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1823 @ 0.00063515 = 1.1579 BTC [-] [07:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.452 = 1.356 BTC [-] [07:57]
ChaangNoi i did not buy s.dice cuz i think it was a long term investment, but im fine if others want to buy it, [07:57]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.695 BTC [+] [07:57]
ChaangNoi bad* [07:57]
tiberiusiv chaangnoi: i dont care what others do with their $, both sdice and all the mp assets are shady as hell by anyone with 2 IQ points. [07:58]
ChaangNoi then do like me, and dont buy them [07:58]
ChaangNoi its not hard [07:58]
Bowjob hey mp, ur fuckup adria comp, its 1 person per shot [07:58]
mircea_popescu nah [07:58]
Bowjob k [07:58]
ChaangNoi why are you so butt hurt he found peopleto buy them? [07:58]
mircea_popescu can do as many as you please. [07:58]
Bowjob i found a a good idea [07:58]
Bowjob lol [07:58]
tiberiusiv chaangnoi: im not. just voicing an opinion [07:58]
ChaangNoi about romanians = scammers :) [07:59]
tiberiusiv if he gets away with it all the power to him, just like madoff victims have only themselves to blame [07:59]
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mircea_popescu ... [07:59]
tiberiusiv chaangnoi: not all romanians are scammers but that area breeds a huge % of them per capita, not to mention all sorts of other criminals they scatter all around europe. [07:59]
ChaangNoi i love the freedom in btc land, people get to do what they want. mp is not forcing anyone to do anything [08:00]
tiberiusiv neither did madoff [08:00]
mircea_popescu nor serghey brin [08:00]
ChaangNoi you know.. using btc might be thought of as a crime... maybe mp is a crimanal too, after all did he register his exchange? bow down to the govt, lulz [08:00]
mircea_popescu how do you pick your examples ? [08:00]
tiberiusiv using btc is no different then using anything as money [08:01]
ChaangNoi did you pay sales tax when you use btc? you are crimanal too! [08:01]
tiberiusiv not to even bring up mp's rather disgusting/shady porn dealings [08:01]
ChaangNoi oh no! sex! must be criminal [08:01]
tiberiusiv pimping girls is another thing romanians are notorious for in europe [08:01]
ChaangNoi as long as there is concent why do you care? [08:02]
mircea_popescu o, i was wondering when we get to that line of nonsense. [08:02]
tiberiusiv romanian hookers are dirt cheap because its poor girls that are easy to take advantage of [08:02]
tiberiusiv they are sent all over EU by their handlers to top bidders [08:02]
toffoo I prefer the term "good value" [08:03]
mircea_popescu you know, the sad thing with this "community" or w/e it is is that naysayers are too stupid/lazy to make good arguments. [08:03]
ChaangNoi take advantage of, like giving them a job to make good money? yeah... lol they should just starve to death or the govt should hand them piles of money cuz whatever [08:03]
mircea_popescu they become trivially easy to defeat, much to the benefit of actual scams [08:03]
mircea_popescu if the girl weren't on the forum people like the bitbillions guy would probably have the run of it. [08:03]
mircea_popescu im getting sick of having to pay to show people how naysaying is done right [08:03]
tiberiusiv mircea you havent defeated any arguement [08:03]
mircea_popescu just to not have anyone actually learn anything out of it. [08:03]
tiberiusiv!*@* added to ignore list. [08:04]
ChaangNoi lol [08:04]
ChaangNoi freemarket [08:04]
mircea_popescu yeah. [08:04]
mircea_popescu mixed bag. [08:04]
ChaangNoi you are proving that to us very well [08:05]
ChaangNoi anyway im out for a while, good trading all [08:05]
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assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.10899 = 0.436 BTC [+] [08:06]
Bowjob ;;ticker [08:11]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.07007, Best ask: 75.88870, Bid-ask spread: 0.81863, Last trade: 75.07004, 24 hour volume: 81261.23957830, 24 hour low: 71.52122, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 74.73248 [08:11]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 100 @ 0.00447 = 0.447 BTC [+] [08:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 61 @ 0.00448 = 0.2733 BTC [+] [08:18]
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mircea_popescu !ticker m ^oix [08:25]
assbot [MPEX:^OIX] 1D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 7D: 48.45538965 / 71.84497777 / 78.24284189 (49175 shares, 4,680.64 BTC), 30D: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC) [08:25]
Bowjob ;;ticker [08:28]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.49001, Best ask: 75.58000, Bid-ask spread: 0.08999, Last trade: 75.49000, 24 hour volume: 81153.14011718, 24 hour low: 71.52122, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 74.73700 [08:28]
mircea_popescu Bowjob you got a reddit ? [08:30]
Bowjob a reddit account, yes [08:30]
mircea_popescu be a sport and put adria article up ? [08:30]
mircea_popescu need moar entrants wtf. [08:30]
Bowjob Umm.. I'd get killed if I post that there [08:31]
mircea_popescu haha ok [08:31]
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mircea_popescu gotta find someone with iron undies [08:31]
Bowjob lol [08:32]
Bowjob Fine, I'll post it. [08:32]
mircea_popescu eh don't ruin your life [08:32]
Bowjob I don't really post much there anyways, [08:32]
mircea_popescu just as long as you won't end up fired or something [08:33]
Bowjob "I've never seen a fire truck that needed to be shaved before. F" [08:36]
Bowjob Is this you? [08:36]
mircea_popescu nope [08:36]
mircea_popescu that sounds like a maddox quote [08:36]
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mircea_popescu where is it? [08:36]
Bowjob yes it is a maddox quote [08:36]
Bowjob on the thread duh [08:37]
Bowjob i think theres only 3 players so far [08:37]
Bowjob the last 3 are the same person trying to pretend as 3 people [08:37]
mircea_popescu o hey, there's stuff there! [08:37]
Bowjob duh [08:37]
Bowjob not the last 3, the last 3 before the last one [08:37]
Bowjob which is mine [08:37]
mircea_popescu lol cool [08:37]
Bowjob you should get more now, i posted it [08:38]
mircea_popescu link ? [08:38]
Bowjob http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1b11il/nsfw_photoshop_contest/ [08:38]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.73 = 1.46 BTC [+] [08:38]
Bowjob yeap [08:38]
Bowjob i enjoyed the short monopoly i had on the contest [08:38]
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Bowjob since the second pic does not depict rape, i would win all the prize lolz [08:39]
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mircea_popescu lol [08:39]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [-] [08:40]
mircea_popescu http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsnmeqaA1C1qgs2k5o1_400.jpg [08:40]
Bowjob on your article you misspelled photoshop [08:41]
Bowjob i doubt people would spot it tho [08:41]
mircea_popescu i did ? [08:42]
Bowjob you spelled it as photochop [08:42]
mircea_popescu did you see the later update ? [08:42]
Bowjob and not sure with the capital S in the middle [08:42]
Bowjob oh, i see [08:43]
Bowjob The article originally used the word “photochop [08:43]
Bowjob you know.. [08:43]
Bowjob my teached back in hs, raised the same issue. The "correct" term is photo-edit [08:44]
mircea_popescu no it's not. [08:44]
Bowjob no one gave a shit and called it photoshopping anyway [08:44]
mircea_popescu photoshop. fuck adobe. [08:44]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 2 @ 0.00492 = 0.0098 BTC [+] [08:44]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 93 @ 0.00495 = 0.4604 BTC [+] [08:44]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 318 @ 0.00495 = 1.5741 BTC [+] [08:44]
Bowjob she told us to "get creative" if we couldnt afford photoshop [08:44]
mircea_popescu like... gimp ? [08:44]
Bowjob nah she was referring to piracy [08:45]
mircea_popescu heh [08:45]
Bowjob its been so many years now i forgot how to photoshop [08:45]
Bowjob i remember i recreated this pic [08:46]
Bowjob http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Voroshilov,_Molotov,_Stalin,_with_Nikolai_Yezhov.jpg [08:46]
Bowjob i made the dude on stalin's right disappear [08:46]
Bowjob http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_Commissar_Vanishes_2.jpg [08:46]
Bowjob to that [08:46]
mircea_popescu haha [08:47]
mircea_popescu the soviets did that. [08:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4759 @ 0.00063515 = 3.0227 BTC [-] [08:47]
Bowjob i was wondering how the hell did they do that back then [08:47]
Bowjob photoshop.. 0.00001? [08:47]
mircea_popescu by hand [08:47]
mircea_popescu same way bills were forged [08:47]
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Bowjob looks legit, actually. considering the quality of photgraphs back then [08:48]
mircea_popescu yea [08:48]
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Bowjob here you go mp [09:05]
Bowjob http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/18679.html [09:05]
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mircea_popescu lmao [09:08]
mircea_popescu some of these are pretty bad too [09:08]
Bowjob the last one looks like you [09:10]
Bowjob lol [09:10]
toffoo i got all pumped up to win $750 bux .. then realized I don't have photoshop installed anymore [09:10]
mircea_popescu so get gimp [09:10]
mircea_popescu Bowjob no it doesn't, my cock is huger. [09:10]
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Bowjob ah, my bad [09:11]
Bowjob lol [09:11]
Bowjob these redditors downvoted my post, yet we got some new traffic [09:11]
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Bowjob its either from people here or redditors downvoted my post and joined your contest [09:11]
Bowjob adria looks like a human poodle [09:12]
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Bowjob mp. wheres that pic of buttcoin [09:24]
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mircea_popescu which one ? [09:24]
mircea_popescu ""Rape is fun..." [09:25]
mircea_popescu That's not cool." [09:25]
mircea_popescu i recall this carlin bit, "according to 90% of participants, gangrape is great fun" [09:25]
Bowjob the one where mpoe-pr made this dude shove a pen up his ass [09:25]
mircea_popescu o [09:26]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/17150.html [09:26]
Bowjob lol [09:26]
Bowjob ah, the power of buttcoins [09:27]
mircea_popescu "o, bitcoin is worthless because i can't buy anything with it" [09:27]
toffoo so I went on reddit to upvote your contest, [09:27]
mircea_popescu but then downvoted it insteadf [09:28]
toffoo and oh dear I didn't notice your favorite bitcoin spokesperson got some more free press again last friday: [09:28]
Namworld ;;bids [09:28]
gribble (bids [--under] ) -- Calculate the amount of bitcoin demanded at or over . If '--under' option is given, find coins or at or under . [09:28]
toffoo http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/video/2013/mar/22/bitcoin-currency-video [09:28]
Namworld ;;bids 0 [09:28]
gribble There are currently 36697167 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 8721857.08948 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0167 seconds [09:28]
toffoo he plays the role of "squatter" so incredibly well [09:28]
toffoo i power laughed at this video [09:29]
mircea_popescu toffoo dub already mentioned it. it's funny how most of the guy's following consists of people surprised he's still alive. [09:29]
toffoo now that is grungy [09:30]
toffoo clearly that abandoned office block has no running shower [09:30]
Bowjob http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/136428266447.jpg [09:30]
Bowjob worst pic ever [09:30]
mircea_popescu lmao [09:30]
mircea_popescu somebody found my cock. [09:30]
Bowjob whoever did that, gratz. you've outdone me [09:31]
Bowjob mp, im pretty sure thats a vanilla pod [09:31]
mircea_popescu Bowjob : [09:31]
mircea_popescu ;;google trilema pula mea [09:31]
gribble Cum se protesteaza corect - continuare ilustrativa pe Trilema - Un ...: ; Brigada Diverse in alerta pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Noi scrisori din Liliput pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: (1 more message) [09:31]
mircea_popescu jesus [09:31]
mircea_popescu wtf is this so brojken [09:31]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2010/nsfw-pula-mea/ [09:31]
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Bowjob Oh.. i see [09:32]
Bowjob lol [09:32]
Bowjob clever [09:32]
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Bowjob so its not a vanilla pod [09:33]
mircea_popescu no, it's my epeen [09:33]
mircea_popescu in 2010 [09:33]
Bowjob did it grow these past 3 years [09:34]
mircea_popescu yeah [09:35]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+] [09:38]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+] [09:39]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+] [09:40]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.75 BTC [+] [09:41]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.75 = 3.75 BTC [+] [09:43]
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assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 8 @ 0.34999 = 2.7999 BTC [+] [09:49]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009993 BTC [-] [09:55]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 22 @ 0.009994 = 0.2199 BTC [+] [09:56]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 3 @ 0.009994 = 0.03 BTC [+] [09:57]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.75 = 6 BTC [+] [09:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 15 @ 0.00441 = 0.0662 BTC [-] [09:59]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 80 @ 0.00441 = 0.3528 BTC [-] [09:59]
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jurov hi mircea_popescu, when we can exppect bitbet payouts? [10:02]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 31 @ 0.0044 = 0.1364 BTC [-] [10:02]
mircea_popescu hm, anything pending? [10:02]
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jurov http://bitbet.us/bet/39/network-difficulty-under-6-million/ and at least 2 similar [10:04]
jurov no the ohers are for 12 and 20 million, they better wait [10:05]
mircea_popescu ah. presently. [10:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 7 @ 0.00414 = 0.029 BTC [-] [10:07]
jurov who has done them? if you did, do you plan to create new ones? [10:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 14 @ 0.00413 = 0.0578 BTC [-] [10:08]
mircea_popescu i didn't do them [10:08]
mircea_popescu but prolly a good idea for such bets anyway [10:08]
mircea_popescu also : introducing the reverse mpex http://mpex.co/?r=1 [10:08]
jurov haha looks even more like 1995 [10:09]
mircea_popescu :D [10:09]
Bowjob it looks good for nighttime trading [10:11]
Bowjob but.. [10:11]
Bowjob the dark blue hurts [10:11]
mircea_popescu hm [10:12]
Bowjob perhaps switch to yellow, ala bestpageinteuniverse? [10:12]
mircea_popescu lol [10:12]
mircea_popescu maybe baby blue ? [10:12]
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jurov or green [10:14]
jurov to support bullish mood [10:15]
mircea_popescu green'd be an idea lessee [10:15]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1000 @ 0.0689697 = 68.9697 BTC [-] [10:16]
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toffoo looks like bloomberg! [10:16]
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mircea_popescu http://mpex.co/?r=1 bettar ? [10:18]
Bowjob yeap [10:18]
Bowjob the only prob is [10:18]
Bowjob it hurts us when we switch from mpex to irc [10:19]
mircea_popescu lol ok [10:19]
Bowjob its a meta prob, nothing to do with site [10:19]
Namworld Hmm... did you process two deposit for me mircea? I get confused with all the buying/selling [10:19]
Bowjob since our eyes would get used to it [10:19]
jurov Bowjob, ur irc client doesn't have dark skin? [10:19]
Bowjob irc? [10:19]
Namworld I've been doing [10:19]
Namworld urgh... [10:19]
Bowjob i dunno how to do that [10:19]
Namworld Hmm... [10:19]
Bowjob ;;darkskin [10:19]
Namworld Yeah, looks like it. [10:19]
gribble Error: "darkskin" is not a valid command. [10:19]
Bowjob ;;help [10:19]
gribble The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/ [10:19]
jurov don't think gribble can do it... he seems caucasian [10:20]
* mircea_popescu looks [10:21]
mircea_popescu nothing pending. [10:22]
Namworld Yeah, looks like it was processed [10:22]
Namworld Looking at the list of sales/purchases on my command line, seems like my two deposits are in there now. [10:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00063515 = 2.4136 BTC [-] [10:24]
Namworld Price looks on the rise. I got some calls. I'm all good. [10:25]
jurov Namworld, which client are you using? pympex logs by default now [10:26]
Bowjob ;;ticker [10:27]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 76.21001, Best ask: 76.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.28999, Last trade: 76.50000, 24 hour volume: 81138.77068508, 24 hour low: 71.52122, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 74.80606 [10:27]
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Namworld windows old client [10:28]
Namworld I guess [10:29]
Namworld Is the latest pympex ported to windows yet? [10:29]
Namworld Does that mean it calculates deposits and transactions appearing on stats now? [10:30]
jurov no it just does some calculation on new orders [10:31]
Namworld ah [10:32]
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jurov dunno why it's such a problem with win... anyone tried the dotnet one? [10:35]
jurov ironpython or however they call it [10:35]
Namworld ;;bids 0 [10:36]
gribble There are currently 36702157 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 8834463.93001 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0180 seconds [10:36]
Namworld We're getting closer to 9 million USD in bids [10:36]
jurov but it's a bit meaningless. maybe gribble could say "but there are only 11m btc in circulation so if they sold then..." [10:38]
jurov ;;sell 11000000 [10:38]
gribble (sell [at|@] []) -- Logs a sell order for units of per unit, in units of . Use the optional field to put in any special notes. may include an arithmetical expression, and {mtgox(ask|bid|last)} to index price to mtgox ask, bid, or last price. May also include expression of (1 more message) [10:38]
jurov ;;market sell 11000000 [10:39]
gribble A market order to sell 11000000 bitcoins right now would net 8836647.0718 USD and would take the last price down to 0.0000 USD, resulting in an average price of 0.8033 USD/BTC. | Data vintage: 0.0160 seconds [10:39]
Namworld 8834463.93001 vs 8836647.0718 hmm... [10:39]
jurov ic [10:39]
Namworld I guess bids increased again... but anyway [10:39]
Bowjob ;;ticker [10:40]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 76.46001, Best ask: 76.50000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03999, Last trade: 76.50000, 24 hour volume: 81081.40171129, 24 hour low: 71.52122, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 74.81300 [10:40]
Namworld It's just an very, very general estimation of funds on MtGox. There's still the USD standing idle/not on bids [10:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7950 @ 0.00064816 = 5.1529 BTC [+] [10:40]
Namworld You know there's at least as much USD as the bids. [10:40]
jurov yes it's impressive anyway [10:42]
Namworld Well it's ridiculous as far as I care. [10:43]
Namworld Well true enough [10:46]
Namworld Well it tend to flow a certain way... [10:47]
Namworld Ex: public -> SatoshiDice [10:48]
Namworld They took over 65k so far... [10:50]
Namworld Well if everyone just keeps their Bitcoins forever... there's going to be some issues [10:51]
Namworld Well I'd also get part of that... [10:52]
Namworld as long as people spend it... [10:52]
Bowjob tiber your math is way off [10:53]
Bowjob go back excuses [10:53]
Namworld I don't say they have to spend it... [10:54]
Namworld ;;bids 0 [10:55]
gribble There are currently 36703203 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 8908860.95577 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0174 seconds [10:55]
Namworld 8.908 million... still increasing [10:55]
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Namworld Well actually it probably went down because BTC increased in USD. And people want to gamble at max X USD [10:57]
Namworld or put x% of their income into gambling [10:57]
Namworld and since that's in USD... [10:57]
Namworld Of course [10:57]
Namworld USD wise however, SD is making gains [10:57]
Namworld When I make a BTC investment, I can find out holding BTC might have been better. [10:58]
Namworld But as long as in fiat it increases instead, it's not a complete loss. [10:58]
Namworld It's just worse than holding BTC [10:58]
Namworld yeah, that too [10:58]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.34999 = 0.7 BTC [+] [10:59]
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Chaang-Noi ;;asks 77 [11:01]
gribble There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 77.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds [11:01]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 78 [11:01]
gribble There are currently 2228.4083 bitcoins offered at or under 78.0 USD, worth 173045.230736 USD in total. | Data vintage: 7.1586 seconds [11:01]
Bowjob ;;ticker [11:02]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 76.77701, Best ask: 77.19000, Bid-ask spread: 0.41299, Last trade: 77.19000, 24 hour volume: 81058.63736284, 24 hour low: 71.52122, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 74.89676 [11:02]
Bowjob mhm [11:02]
Chaang-Noi large spread [11:02]
Namworld yeah [11:03]
Namworld But price going up [11:03]
Namworld slowly [11:03]
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Namworld http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/ [11:04]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 4 @ 0.75 = 3 BTC [+] [11:04]
Namworld The hourly chart says crazy movements [11:05]
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Chaang-Noi i think the claim of 50 million to be a bit high myself [11:07]
Chaang-Noi but if he can sell it at that good for him [11:07]
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Chaang-Noi he can sell some at the price [11:07]
Namworld tiberius: $10k traded on a good day? That's WAY under... [11:07]
Chaang-Noi better to sell 10% at 10,000 than 100% at 1,000 [11:08]
Namworld There's more than $10k traded daily =/ [11:09]
Chaang-Noi i would agree but there is nothing wrong with mp selling it for that price [11:10]
Chaang-Noi freemarket [11:10]
Chaang-Noi ok [11:10]
Chaang-Noi but the thing is, mp found some people to buy it, 12% [11:10]
Chaang-Noi its funny until you see he sold 12% [11:10]
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Chaang-Noi yup, i tip my hat to mp for finding so many [11:11]
Chaang-Noi mp is doing it honestly (i assume) [11:11]
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Chaang-Noi turns out he was not (i assume) [11:12]
Chaang-Noi but you cant call mp a scammer if you dont know :/ [11:12]
Chaang-Noi there you go then:) [11:12]
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Chaang-Noi but it is backed up by 12% sales [11:13]
Chaang-Noi then dont invest, are you trying to convert people? [11:13]
Chaang-Noi i dont use his exchange or buy his stuff cuz i think it is way overvalued, if you are trying to convert me you are wasting your time [11:14]
Chaang-Noi well, if he can sell it might as well eh? [11:14]
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Chaang-Noi if i were him id do it too [11:14]
Chaang-Noi well, im sure he sold some [11:14]
Chaang-Noi well im off to do some real work, you should really do the same, point out how sucessful mp is is not really a good use of your time. [11:15]
Chaang-Noi freemarket captalizum, [11:16]
Chaang-Noi gota love it [11:16]
dub thank you for imparting this knowledge tiberiusiv [11:16]
Namworld So you claim trades on MPEx are fake? [11:19]
Namworld well inflated at least [11:19]
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Chaang-Noi i dont have a sweatshop, only because i have more profitable things to do with my limited time [11:25]
Chaang-Noi oh lol [11:26]
Chaang-Noi you must be new here [11:26]
Chaang-Noi i have not "worked" in over a year and even that "work" was "teaching" at a university [11:27]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 78 [11:27]
gribble There are currently 2117.1272 bitcoins offered at or under 78.0 USD, worth 164451.6758 USD in total. | Data vintage: 105.3837 seconds [11:28]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 80 [11:28]
gribble There are currently 8048.9544 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 637161.672751 USD in total. | Data vintage: 109.1166 seconds [11:28]
Chaang-Noi yeah, it is pretty awesome [11:29]
Namworld [05:19] namworld: always be weary of someone who has a vested interest in selling you something [11:29]
Namworld I don't typically buy S.MPOE but thanks anyway for the advice [11:30]
Namworld I get S.DICE mostly. and Options [11:30]
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assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10899 BTC [+] [11:35]
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MJR_ hi all [11:45]
Namworld hello [11:46]
MJR_ whats new [11:46]
Namworld not much [11:46]
Namworld BTC on the up [11:46]
MJR_ hmmm, i think we may see a dip [11:46]
Namworld why? [11:47]
MJR_ just the depth of the book [11:47]
MJR_ the buy side looks thin [11:47]
MJR_ which is pretty rare [11:47]
Namworld not at all. Been like taht all day [11:47]
Namworld and still moving forward [11:47]
MJR_ i mean in general it is usually a monster buy side with thing supply [11:48]
Chaang-Noi 1 million sales of btc drops it down to 72 [11:48]
Namworld asks are almost just as thin [11:48]
Chaang-Noi but i think we are going up, new ath soon [11:48]
MJR_ yeah its pretty thin trading altogether [11:48]
mircea_popescu market a little exhausted [11:48]
MJR_ well, yeah, i mean before 9 [11:48]
mircea_popescu excitement doesn't last. [11:48]
MJR_ i think the market is exhausted [11:48]
MJR_ and i'm thinking of trying to ride it from 77.50 to 74 [11:48]
Chaang-Noi when did coinlab come online? [11:49]
mircea_popescu this is what naturally wrecks ponzis [11:49]
mircea_popescu after sustained rise there's some flagging and that causes a panic [11:49]
MJR_ yeah [11:49]
Namworld http://www.bitcoincharts.com/charts/mtgoxUSD/accumulated_orderbook.png [11:49]
MJR_ i'm thinking that if i can short it here...hopefully there is a sell off and i can buy back in for more [11:49]
Namworld after the saturday crash, bids are getting back in the orderbook [11:50]
Namworld Bids outweight asks by now [11:50]
MJR_ yeah... [11:50]
Namworld Anyway [11:50]
MJR_ but 250 coins to move to 77 1250 to move to 78 [11:50]
Chaang-Noi wall at 77.5 wont hold [11:50]
Namworld on such a small scale, that's insignificant [11:51]
MJR_ 5 to 1 pushing down [11:51]
mircea_popescu risk shorting btc tho [11:51]
Namworld http://bitcoin.clarkmoody.com/ [11:51]
MJR_ lol, yeah, it is tough [11:51]
Namworld Look at hourly [11:51]
MJR_ and when trading high margin...you want very short scale [11:51]
MJR_ clark moody always breaks for me [11:51]
MJR_ using bitcoininty.org [11:51]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 77.5 [11:51]
gribble There are currently 194.56549 bitcoins offered at or under 77.5 USD, worth 15078.825151 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0017 seconds [11:51]
Namworld we're basically raising at about the same speed as before the crash [11:52]
* cads is now known as ShigeruMasamoto [11:52]
Namworld asks are slowly getting eaten too [11:52]
Chaang-Noi wall gone, now to test the ath [11:52]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 78 [11:53]
gribble There are currently 1462.6683 bitcoins offered at or under 78.0 USD, worth 113828.206504 USD in total. | Data vintage: 94.5324 seconds [11:53]
Chaang-Noi lol at gox fail [11:53]
MJR_ ;;goxlag [11:54]
gribble 0 seconds [11:54]
MJR_ this is my first bitcoin short [11:54]
Chaang-Noi hmm [11:54]
MJR_ and again, i think we may hit an ath today, i just think we will dip a couple of bucks first [11:55]
MJR_ and then i reverse position [11:55]
Namworld ain't sure bout that short [11:55]
Namworld but anyway [11:55]
mircea_popescu disagreement is the measure of healthy martket. [11:55]
MJR_ yeah [11:55]
MJR_ we'll see, i have my finger on the cover button [11:55]
mircea_popescu when you all agree i go the other way [11:55]
mircea_popescu when you disagree i go play path of exile [11:56]
Namworld I'm out for now anyway [11:56]
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dub yall nigras see this [11:57]
dub www.labsnovo.com? [11:57]
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MJR_ well i got my trailing stop in place [11:58]
MJR_ we will see [11:58]
MJR_ there we go] [12:01]
MJR_ i think it really doesn't take much to burst mt gox to 60 second plus lag [12:03]
Chaang-Noi wow big sell then big buy [12:03]
MJR_ i know [12:03]
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MJR_ unfortunately this software is just now realizing the sell, there is lag from gox, then lag to the charts, then lag to bitfinex [12:04]
MJR_ and for the pleasure of seeing things happening minutes after they actually happen i pay ridiculous fees... :( [12:04]
Chaang-Noi all the asks and bids were taken out so we should see some crazy movements [12:04]
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MJR_ yes [12:05]
MJR_ 90 coins puts under 77 [12:05]
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MJR_ 310 for 76 [12:05]
MJR_ there it goes again [12:06]
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Chaang-Noi ;;asks 78 [12:10]
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MJR_ ffs big spread [12:14]
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Chaang-Noi yeah [12:15]
Chaang-Noi i wanted to see a new ath :/ [12:15]
MJR_ you probably will today [12:17]
MJR_ but hopefully not before we hit 76 [12:17]
MJR_ what is with this mini wall at 76.68 [12:17]
error4733 ;;ticker [12:17]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 76.68630, Best ask: 77.58899, Bid-ask spread: 0.90269, Last trade: 76.68630, 24 hour volume: 82045.91053246, 24 hour low: 71.52122, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 75.03512 [12:18]
error4733 ;;goxlag [12:18]
gribble 0.468706 seconds [12:18]
MJR_ lol they just keep widening this gap [12:19]
mircea_popescu ;;later tell toffoo https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=158780.0 [12:21]
gribble The operation succeeded. [12:21]
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ChaangNoi test [12:32]
Chaang-Noi hmm [12:32]
Namworld dub: copyright 2012-2013? [12:32]
MJR_ whatcha testing? [12:32]
Chaang-Noi new laptop [12:32]
Namworld registered 10 days ago... [12:32]
dub yeah its scammy as fuck [12:33]
dub https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155896 [12:34]
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deadweasel ;;ticker [12:54]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.00003, Best ask: 77.03400, Bid-ask spread: 0.03397, Last trade: 77.00002, 24 hour volume: 81960.22119000, 24 hour low: 71.55001, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 75.09242 [12:54]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 14 @ 0.00449 = 0.0629 BTC [+] [13:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 304 @ 0.00449999 = 1.368 BTC [-] [13:11]
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Chaang-Noi 78 still holds [13:18]
Chaang-Noi booo [13:18]
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MJR_ this trading platform is such fucking bullshit [13:23]
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Namworld the wall doesn't keep price from rising tho [13:27]
MJR_ yeah [13:28]
MJR_ true [13:28]
Chaang-Noi 77.77 [13:29]
Chaang-Noi really 77.777 [13:29]
MJR_ lucky [13:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.7 = 2.1 BTC [-] [13:30]
Namworld I'm feeling lucky today [13:30]
Namworld More 7s [13:30]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 79.99 [13:30]
gribble There are currently 4330.0318 bitcoins offered at or under 79.99 USD, worth 343548.746816 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0041 seconds [13:30]
kakobrekla MJR_ you mean all of them? [13:30]
Chaang-Noi we keepgetting close, but cant reach 78 lol [13:31]
Namworld Without that wall to intimidate, there's like nothing until 100... very light slope [13:31]
Chaang-Noi sells will come in... [13:32]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 99.99 [13:32]
gribble There are currently 39920.895 bitcoins offered at or under 99.99 USD, worth 3454701.99447 USD in total. | Data vintage: 96.3542 seconds [13:32]
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MJR_ ;;goxlag [13:34]
gribble 90.205895 seconds [13:34]
Namworld whut [13:34]
Namworld ;;goxlag [13:34]
gribble 95.695534 seconds [13:34]
Namworld ... [13:34]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [-] [13:34]
kakobrekla 86$ high on stamp [13:34]
kakobrekla just now [13:34]
Chaang-Noi btc hit 100 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=85687.msg1678821#msg1678821 [13:35]
Chaang-Noi on stamp [13:36]
Chaang-Noi pretty bullish if they will pay 33% more than gox [13:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4550 @ 0.00063865 = 2.9059 BTC [-] [13:37]
kakobrekla you mean this [13:37]
kakobrekla ? [13:37]
kakobrekla http://shrani.si/f/3V/sH/2APFuyCb/lol.png [13:37]
kakobrekla was a while ago [13:37]
kakobrekla but its not 100 [13:37]
kakobrekla its just [13:37]
kakobrekla they are plain idiots [13:37]
kakobrekla and they put 100 in the book first, then execute the asks [13:37]
Chaang-Noi lol [13:38]
Chaang-Noi still some sold at 100 right? [13:38]
kakobrekla not on stamp [13:38]
kakobrekla Day's range: [13:38]
kakobrekla $74.30 - $86.00 [13:38]
Chaang-Noi this was yesterday i think [13:39]
Chaang-Noi day old photo [13:39]
kakobrekla ah [13:39]
Chaang-Noi anyay someone seems to be messing with the market at 77.777 [13:39]
MJR_ hmmm [13:40]
MJR_ seems like a good range [13:40]
MJR_ wasn't sure if we would break 80 [13:40]
MJR_ but not that high of a wall really [13:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.665 BTC [-] [13:42]
Chaang-Noi 77.95 again [13:42]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.58 = 1.74 BTC [-] [13:43]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.016 = 2.032 BTC [-] [13:44]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-] [13:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.015 BTC [-] [13:45]
MJR_ ;;goxlag [13:45]
gribble 0 seconds [13:45]
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Namworld 78 almost breached... [13:50]
Namworld go BTC [13:50]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 1 @ 1.01 BTC [-] [13:59]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [KCIM] 2 @ 1.001 = 2.002 BTC [-] [14:00]
ThickAsThieves ;;goxlag [14:04]
gribble 0.101416 seconds [14:04]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [14:04]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.50101, Best ask: 77.77699, Bid-ask spread: 0.27598, Last trade: 77.77699, 24 hour volume: 81032.30957756, 24 hour low: 71.89779, 24 hour high: 78.00000, 24 hour vwap: 75.25893 [14:04]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C690T] 5 @ 0.12930638 = 0.6465 BTC [+] [14:06]
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MJR_ here we go [14:09]
MJR_ NATH by 9:30 [14:09]
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Chaang-Noi 78 [14:11]
Namworld yeehaa [14:11]
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Chaang-Noi 127 sold at 78 [14:14]
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Chaang-Noi ;;asks 78 [14:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 1 @ 0.00499 BTC [+] [14:14]
gribble There are currently 520.72291 bitcoins offered at or under 78.0 USD, worth 40616.3866223 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0013 seconds [14:14]
Chaang-Noi a bit of a wall then [14:14]
Chaang-Noi and its gone [14:18]
Namworld ;;asks 78.01 [14:18]
gribble There are currently 146.47185 bitcoins offered at or under 78.01 USD, worth 11424.8039147 USD in total. | Data vintage: 103.6015 seconds [14:18]
Chaang-Noi new ath [14:18]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 78.01 [14:19]
gribble There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 78.01 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0015 seconds [14:19]
Chaang-Noi here comes 80 [14:19]
Namworld guy is going to get his wall eaten... [14:19]
deadweasel ;;calc 18000*80 [14:20]
gribble 1440000 [14:20]
Namworld yeah, why not [14:20]
deadweasel maybe he'll drop the wall and buy in at market. [14:20]
Chaang-Noi lol [14:22]
ThickAsThieves 79 [14:23]
deadweasel ;;goxlag [14:23]
gribble 0 seconds [14:23]
deadweasel ;;ticker [14:23]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 78.40001, Best ask: 79.00000, Bid-ask spread: 0.59999, Last trade: 79.00000, 24 hour volume: 82470.81706976, 24 hour low: 71.89779, 24 hour high: 79.00000, 24 hour vwap: 75.34531 [14:23]
Namworld large wall removeds [14:23]
Namworld removed* [14:23]
Namworld back... [14:24]
deadweasel lol, now he's getting market bids in. [14:24]
ThickAsThieves here we goooooo [14:24]
ThickAsThieves 79.70 [14:24]
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Namworld HOLY SHIT [14:24]
Namworld Stop it people >.> [14:24]
Diablo-D3 !ticker [14:24]
assbot I haven't understood a single word you've said since I met you, not one single word. [14:24]
ThickAsThieves watch gox freeze now [14:24]
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Diablo-D3 ;;ticker [14:24]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 78.38000, Best ask: 79.58766, Bid-ask spread: 1.20766, Last trade: 79.50000, 24 hour volume: 82500.26463872, 24 hour low: 71.89779, 24 hour high: 79.04992, 24 hour vwap: 75.35045 [14:24]
Diablo-D3 THE FUCK [14:24]
ThickAsThieves just some lil walls [14:25]
Chaang-Noi its a big ass wall [14:25]
ThickAsThieves thatll drop [14:25]
Chaang-Noi but... lets see if it stands [14:25]
ThickAsThieves he's got a buffer wall [14:25]
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Namworld wall dropped [14:26]
Chaang-Noi it did, still there but much less [14:27]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 80 [14:27]
gribble There are currently 3554.2802 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 284165.021183 USD in total. | Data vintage: 55.1147 seconds [14:27]
Chaang-Noi in fucking sane [14:27]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 2 @ 0.34999 = 0.7 BTC [+] [14:28]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 80 [14:29]
gribble There are currently 3808.2111 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 304401.035789 USD in total. | Data vintage: 26.4863 seconds [14:29]
Chaang-Noi that wont hold, usa is starting to wake up and buy... [14:30]
Namworld Good, good. [14:31]
ThickAsThieves ;;estimate [14:32]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 6881519.95343 based on data since last change | 7299527.825 based on data for last three days [14:32]
Namworld urgh [14:33]
Namworld There's no options available on MPEx [14:34]
Chaang-Noi :) [14:36]
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assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.09 BTC [-] [14:37]
ThickAsThieves whats up with that [14:39]
Namworld No idea [14:40]
Namworld Anyone with his options already purchased must be quite happy [14:40]
Namworld They're back at last [14:41]
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Namworld At a premium on the call side... average increased [14:41]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9900 @ 0.00064816 = 6.4168 BTC [+] [14:43]
mircea_popescu $depth o.btcusd.c750t [14:43]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: O.BTCUSD.C750T Bids: ['1000 @ 0.06090229'] [14:44]
mpexbot mircea_popescu: Asks: ['1000 @ 0.09287598', '1000 @ 0.25'] [14:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.454 = 0.908 BTC [+] [14:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 6 @ 0.453 = 2.718 BTC [-] [14:44]
mircea_popescu about there neh ? [14:44]
ThickAsThieves too spensive! [14:44]
Namworld yeah [14:44]
mircea_popescu !last m o.btcusd.c750t [14:44]
assbot Last trade for O.BTCUSD.C750T on MPEX was at 0.0689697 BTC [-] [14:44]
Namworld I think that was me buying [14:44]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.501 = 3.002 BTC [+] [14:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.5 = 3 BTC [-] [14:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.5 BTC [-] [14:45]
Namworld Yup, was me buying [14:45]
Namworld A little 1000 options [14:45]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.4925 = 2.985 BTC [-] [14:46]
mircea_popescu i thought mpex trades are all fake and shit. [14:46]
Thinker_ why was the most recent ASICMINER dividend so low? [14:47]
Namworld Thinker_: ? [14:47]
ThickAsThieves it was a bonus [14:47]
mircea_popescu meanwhile on twitter "UK's online gambling sector worth £2bn in 2012" [14:47]
Thinker_ ThickAsThieves: ok good [14:47]
ThickAsThieves but the next WILL be low [14:47]
Thinker_ ThickAsThieves: why? [14:47]
ThickAsThieves read about what you bought [14:47]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.49 = 2.98 BTC [-] [14:48]
ThickAsThieves til now the company has not been paying themselves [14:48]
ThickAsThieves this week they start [14:48]
Namworld ASICMINER is for 50% of the company. But they pay back IPO price to shares sold. [14:48]
Thinker_ ThickAsThieves: interesting. Where are you getting this news? I am not getting any announcements like this from BitFunder.com [14:48]
Namworld So for the first weeks it was 100% [14:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 1 @ 1.45 BTC [-] [14:49]
ThickAsThieves bitfunder is a passthru for AM [14:49]
ThickAsThieves not a source [14:49]
Thinker_ AM? [14:49]
Thinker_ nm [14:49]
MJR_ ATH [14:49]
ThickAsThieves here you go [14:49]
ThickAsThieves https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.0 [14:49]
Thinker_ thank you :) [14:49]
ThickAsThieves no probmemo! [14:49]
ThickAsThieves problemo [14:49]
ThickAsThieves lol [14:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 2 @ 0.453 = 0.906 BTC [-] [14:50]
MJR_ ;;goxlag [14:51]
gribble 1.215531 seconds [14:51]
MJR_ its quiet...too quiet [14:52]
Chaang-Noi we are waiting for btc to break 1k :) [14:53]
MJR_ think we are going through 80 today? [14:55]
bitesak yes [14:55]
ThickAsThieves quite likely [14:55]
deadweasel yes [14:55]
MJR_ me too [14:56]
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ThickAsThieves once we get to 79.85 or so, those walls will probably fall [14:56]
MJR_ yeah 300k is not really a big wall nowadays [14:57]
MJR_ was more interested in psychological barrier of big round number [14:57]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 79.84 [14:57]
gribble There are currently 330.97408 bitcoins offered at or under 79.84 USD, worth 26409.0538315 USD in total. | Data vintage: 5.6651 seconds [14:57]
ThickAsThieves ;;asks 80 [14:57]
gribble There are currently 3807.7847 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 304429.083077 USD in total. | Data vintage: 12.9988 seconds [14:57]
ThickAsThieves hehe [14:57]
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DeaDTerra 24 hours left to bid on a pre order for Avalon ASIC Batch 2! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=158227.msg1679211#msg1679211 [15:00]
ThickAsThieves hey DT [15:00]
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ThickAsThieves can you put a link to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.0 in your asicminer PT descriptions? [15:00]
DeaDTerra done [15:02]
ThickAsThieves cool cool [15:03]
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Bugpowder hmmm... did MPOE bots pricing model get tweaked? [15:05]
ThickAsThieves seems notably higher [15:06]
Bugpowder I wonder if mircea_popescu changed the pricing from 24vwap based to a blend of 24hr and spot [15:07]
mircea_popescu what, srsly ? [15:07]
mircea_popescu i didn't change anything [15:07]
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Bugpowder ok [15:07]
Bugpowder hmmm [15:07]
Bugpowder maybe I was just underestimating the amount of time premium [15:08]
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mircea_popescu i think it's probably just seeing more volatility [15:09]
mircea_popescu as there's been a lot lately [15:09]
Bugpowder ah... volatility is explicitly programmed in [15:10]
mircea_popescu http://www.businessweek.com/news/2013-03-25/slovenia-s-nascent-cabinet-under-pressure-to-avoid-cyprus-fate [15:10]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 5 @ 0.7444 = 3.722 BTC [+] [15:10]
mircea_popescu is slovenia fucked ? [15:10]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder what do you mean ? [15:10]
Bugpowder I mean, volatility is in the model, and is a reflection of some relatively short term variance, rather than a long term (1yr) variance or a magic number. [15:12]
Bugpowder stated more clearly. [15:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 8 @ 0.7445 = 5.956 BTC [+] [15:13]
mircea_popescu it looks at a lot of data. long term, mid term, short term [15:13]
mircea_popescu thing is, as high volatility days turn into weeks [15:13]
Bugpowder yeah [15:13]
mircea_popescu of course it'd change its estimation of the volatility [15:13]
Bugpowder i figured it would be multi scale [15:14]
mircea_popescu yeah [15:14]
Bugpowder looks like we may break thru 80 before 15:00. [15:14]
mircea_popescu quite possible [15:14]
mircea_popescu and if 80 goes i would guess 100 may happen [15:14]
kakobrekla mircea_popescu Jansa is butthurt and posting shit around - we are way better than Italy if that is any consolation [15:15]
kakobrekla :p [15:15]
Bugpowder we aren't gonna touch 100 this week [15:15]
Bugpowder but we might get close [15:15]
Bugpowder next week, maybe... [15:16]
Bugpowder later dudes. [15:16]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla :p [15:20]
ThickAsThieves ;;hashrate [15:28]
gribble Error: "hashrate" is not a valid command. [15:28]
ThickAsThieves ;;nethash [15:29]
gribble 52161.604881 [15:29]
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interesting lucif tends to think we will hit $100 this week https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131065.1000;topicseen [15:30]
Chaang-Noi i think we might [15:31]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 100 [15:31]
gribble There are currently 28670.471 bitcoins offered at or under 100.0 USD, worth 2585939.459 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0028 seconds [15:31]
Chaang-Noi we have seen market orders of over 1 million recently [15:32]
Chaang-Noi lucif however has been wrong way more than right [15:33]
interesting incredible. [15:33]
interesting yeah definitely not saying we will... just... i think the sentiment is that we will very soon [15:33]
interesting certainly within april [15:33]
interesting does anyone have any info on the coinlab mtgox merger? any wealth flowing through it yet? [15:36]
mircea_popescu interesting actually... they blew their date, failed to release alpha and no further news [15:39]
mircea_popescu as far as we know it's dead. [15:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6450 @ 0.00063865 = 4.1193 BTC [-] [15:39]
interesting okay so nothing new then... lol [15:40]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.108897 BTC [+] [15:40]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 3 @ 0.108898 = 0.3267 BTC [+] [15:40]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 21 @ 0.10899 = 2.2888 BTC [+] [15:40]
mircea_popescu myea [15:41]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 4 @ 0.10899 = 0.436 BTC [+] [15:41]
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deadweasel ;;goxlag [15:48]
gribble 2.112843 seconds [15:48]
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assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [-] [15:56]
Bugpowder ;;bids 0 [15:56]
gribble There are currently 36681645 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9119639.08052 USD in total. | Data vintage: 6.2884 seconds [15:56]
Bugpowder 9.1M [15:56]
Bugpowder noice [15:56]
Bugpowder all time high [15:56]
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KRS1 there was talk of a crash a while back but that topic seemed to have fizzled [15:58]
KRS1 crash but rebound of course, cyclic as markets are [15:58]
KRS1 maybe crash is a strong word...dip? [15:58]
Bugpowder don't fight the tape [15:58]
Bugpowder 5000 accounts waiting for verification. [15:59]
Bugpowder assume conservatively a mean investment of $2000 per account [15:59]
Bugpowder probably way low [15:59]
Bugpowder = $10,000,000 of new funds flowing into gox soon. [15:59]
Bugpowder Dips will get strongly bought [15:59]
Bugpowder until one day they don't [16:00]
Bugpowder it will probably take a negative news event to trigger a real crash. [16:00]
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KRS1 figured..as i've noticed you seem to give pretty reasonable information [16:03]
mircea_popescu dip yea [16:05]
mircea_popescu i don't think 2k is way low tbh [16:06]
mircea_popescu i think 100 bux is a saner avg [16:06]
deadweasel i would say $500 is reasonable for motivated newbs. but it would be a bell curve of deposits [16:06]
Bugpowder mircea_popescu: I'm guessing median is $1000 for joe reddit, but mean could skew significantly higher [16:06]
mircea_popescu how does joe reddit have 1k disposable ?! [16:07]
deadweasel good question [16:07]
Bugpowder life savings! [16:07]
mircea_popescu dude srlsy, ask people. [16:07]
deadweasel mom is still paying their insurance... [16:07]
mircea_popescu if joe reddit meets drop dead gorgeous sexbomb he doesn't move [16:07]
mircea_popescu because [16:07]
mircea_popescu he doesn't have fiddy bux to dine her. [16:07]
Bugpowder Some 17 year old kid keeps buying $1000 in coins off me with cash every week [16:07]
Bugpowder I don't know if he is dealing the coins at school or what [16:08]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder he's prolly dealing dope. [16:08]
Bugpowder I think he is investing too [16:08]
mircea_popescu or else he has a wicked shot [16:08]
Bugpowder seems to be very excited about the rise in price. [16:08]
pizzaman1337 Bugpowder: what country are you in? [16:10]
Bugpowder USA [16:10]
deadweasel where does a 17 yr old get $1k a week? [16:11]
KRS1 for real [16:11]
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Bugpowder Probably reselling coins [16:12]
Bugpowder or SR [16:13]
Bugpowder or both [16:13]
Bugpowder reselling coins is probably more profitable and much less risk [16:13]
Bugpowder 25% markup... $250 / wk [16:13]
Bugpowder plus the coins appreciate between the time I sell to him and he sells. [16:13]
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MJR_ nice boiler room reference, did you like it? [16:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1250 @ 0.00063515 = 0.7939 BTC [-] [16:17]
deadweasel Bugpowder: I can see that. At the increase in price, it would be profitable for the last couple of months. [16:18]
deadweasel slinging BTC.. kids these days! [16:18]
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KRS1 haha deadweasel [16:21]
KRS1 off yo corner not mines [16:21]
deadweasel i'd rather just hold. you can sling BTC on my corner KRS1 [16:22]
deadweasel just no crack/smack [16:22]
deadweasel brings values down [16:23]
deadweasel ;;ticker [16:23]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 78.62001, Best ask: 78.70000, Bid-ask spread: 0.07999, Last trade: 78.70000, 24 hour volume: 76425.55033919, 24 hour low: 71.89779, 24 hour high: 79.72001, 24 hour vwap: 75.99540 [16:23]
Chaang-Noi about the bad news and the crash, im shocked the fork did not do any damage but stall the bulls for a few days, insane... we would need massive bad news to do anything [16:23]
Chaang-Noi also dont you need a min of 1000 to ahve to get your account aproved? [16:24]
Chaang-Noi on gox [16:24]
kakobrekla you mean verified? [16:24]
kakobrekla no [16:24]
Chaang-Noi they do it to everyone now? [16:25]
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kakobrekla it was like so since ever [16:25]
Chaang-Noi ? [16:25]
Chaang-Noi really? i have or had an anon account on gox [16:25]
deadweasel Chaang-Noi: I was exceedingly surprised by the fork not causing a lengthy crash [16:25]
KRS1 crack is cheaper than whole units of BTC these days [16:25]
Chaang-Noi deadweasel yeah, that is when i knew we were going to double [16:26]
Chaang-Noi my trading bot account was never veriffied [16:26]
Chaang-Noi on gox [16:26]
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Chaang-Noi iv not used it in a year so things might have changed, i dont know [16:26]
assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 7 @ 0.1429 = 1.0003 BTC [-] [16:27]
Chaang-Noi also every site i use to get the btc price is down for me... [16:27]
deadweasel Chaang-Noi: gox would just lag when you really needed it anyhow, better that you don't use it [16:27]
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MJR_ bitcoinity is good [16:27]
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Chaang-Noi iv not used gox since they froce my account [16:27]
Chaang-Noi froze [16:27]
deadweasel still have money/btc frozen there? [16:28]
Chaang-Noi the one that i had verrified [16:28]
Chaang-Noi the only coin i have left in gox is my 700 btc from bitcoinica they wont let go [16:28]
ThickAsThieves thats a lot [16:28]
unbalanced__ Why not? [16:28]
MJR_ will they ever release it [16:29]
mircea_popescu MJR_ not bad. [16:29]
Chaang-Noi gox is being silent right now about it, but before too long they will get sued [16:29]
mircea_popescu could have done without all the bs libertardism, but anyway [16:29]
Chaang-Noi i think they are waiting for the case to end in cali first [16:29]
Chaang-Noi MJR_ i think its my fail internetz :? [16:30]
unbalanced__ Does any site show multi-exchange VWAP? [16:30]
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mircea_popescu yeah [16:31]
unbalanced__ If community starts to watch that, maybe people would feel freer to trade more off-Gox [16:31]
mircea_popescu community always watched that [16:31]
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unbalanced__ Is the ticker here pure gox tho? [16:31]
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mircea_popescu ;;bc,24hprc [16:31]
gribble Error: I tried to send you an empty message. [16:32]
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mircea_popescu um [16:32]
deadweasel ;;bc,24hprc [16:32]
gribble Error: I tried to send you an empty message. [16:32]
mircea_popescu what da ?! [16:32]
deadweasel lol, gribble is out of order [16:32]
deadweasel ;;ticker [16:32]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 79.09000, Best ask: 79.09899, Bid-ask spread: 0.00899, Last trade: 79.09899, 24 hour volume: 76184.89958681, 24 hour low: 71.89779, 24 hour high: 79.72001, 24 hour vwap: 76.01784 [16:32]
mircea_popescu bitcoincharts is 502 [16:32]
deadweasel so it is... [16:33]
Bugpowder http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/currencies/ [16:33]
Bugpowder that is multi exchange vwap [16:33]
Bugpowder mircea_popescu: the mpoe bot seems to not have offers up much more of the time now than a few weeks ago. Is this DDOS related, funding related, other? [16:35]
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unbalanced__ thx Bugpowder [16:36]
kakobrekla btce price is 73 [16:36]
kakobrekla bitstamp price 82 [16:36]
kakobrekla facepalm [16:36]
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unbalanced__ Too hard to get USD out of BTCe? [16:37]
KRS1 couldnt one transfer their btc between markets for big profits [16:37]
MJR_ wait what? [16:37]
Bugpowder this is typical [16:37]
MJR_ KRS1: but what to do with the cash [16:37]
Bugpowder btce is always low [16:37]
Bugpowder bitstamp is always high [16:37]
MJR_ that is true [16:37]
KRS1 the cash out would give lower btc overall wouldnt it [16:37]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10898 BTC [+] [16:37]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10899 BTC [+] [16:38]
Bugpowder we are nearing the 15:00 hour [16:38]
Bugpowder prepare for the 80 wall to fall. [16:38]
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Bugpowder (hoping) [16:38]
MJR_ me too Bugpowder [16:38]
Chaang-Noi kako to get money into btc-e you need to be tight with the russian maffia [16:39]
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MJR_ the main issue is funding options and time [16:39]
Chaang-Noi also bitstamp is the easiest way to get in money fastest [16:39]
Chaang-Noi this is very bullish [16:39]
Chaang-Noi and its also keeping ltc prices down, people buyiong chewap btc [16:39]
unbalanced__ virtex now at 82.50/84.20 (CAD)... Canada in the lead [16:40]
unbalanced__ BTC on Virtex that is. Not VTX in BTC. [16:40]
MJR_ whats bitfloor got [16:42]
MJR_ they are the easiest in my opinion [16:42]
MJR_ 79.87 [16:43]
unbalanced__ Slight wall issue from here on Virtex tho: http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/virtexCAD.html [16:43]
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MJR_ yeah [16:50]
MJR_ still quite a nice wall going on mt gox [16:50]
MJR_ half a mill before 80 [16:50]
Chaang-Noi ;;asks 80 [16:50]
gribble There are currently 5417.4674 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 431701.695968 USD in total. | Data vintage: 30.3969 seconds [16:50]
Chaang-Noi wall is growing [16:50]
MJR_ exaggerated...its like 430k [16:51]
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mircea_popescu Bugpowder its probably observer related. [16:59]
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savetheintermac hello [17:00]
mircea_popescu https://twitter.com/BitBetsBets/status/316564306453999617 [17:00]
mircea_popescu check that out, big money on ltc [17:00]
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mircea_popescu Bugpowder actually, seems btchcarts has issues with the feed. [17:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01401 BTC [-] [17:12]
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assbot [BTCTC] [B.YABMC] 1 @ 0.01451 BTC [+] [17:16]
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Bugpowder that 12000 BTC wall bastard is back [17:19]
Bugpowder where my bidders back [17:20]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 4 @ 0.4600001 = 1.84 BTC [+] [17:27]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 26 @ 0.46 = 11.96 BTC [-] [17:27]
Chaang-Noi crash:) [17:27]
thestrin1puller ;;ticker [17:28]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 75.34000, Best ask: 77.00000, Bid-ask spread: 1.66000, Last trade: 75.34000, 24 hour volume: 67052.57610028, 24 hour low: 71.89779, 24 hour high: 79.72001, 24 hour vwap: 76.21349 [17:28]
thestrin1puller ;;asks 80.0 [17:28]
gribble There are currently 18683.032 bitcoins offered at or under 80.0 USD, worth 1474040.53264 USD in total. | Data vintage: 19.2638 seconds [17:28]
thestrin1puller lol 12000 btc ask wall [17:28]
Chaang-Noi its fake [17:29]
thestrin1puller the bears vs the bulls [17:29]
smickles 10:24 <+gribble> New rating | Supa > -10 > smickles | None [17:33]
smickles lol [17:33]
MJR_ fucking four minutes lag [17:33]
kakobrekla congrats [17:33]
MJR_ ;;goxlag [17:33]
gribble 334.762829 seconds [17:33]
MJR_ bullshit [17:33]
smickles we had another run at 80 eh? [17:34]
ZedsterX      Chaang-Noi: what do you mean it's fake? total newb here [17:35]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 1.75 = 3.5 BTC [+] [17:36]
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Bugpowder there is no such thing as a fake wall [17:38]
Bugpowder how many times do we have to go over this [17:39]
Bugpowder It is a wall designed to push prices down thouh [17:39]
deadweasel the wall is real, the intention just isn't what you think ZedsterX [17:39]
Bugpowder earlier today when it was put up, it was at 80.0001 [17:39]
Bugpowder If he really wanted to sell, he would try to undercut the asks at 80, instead posting just above it [17:40]
Bugpowder Just someone trying to mainpulate the market, perhaps doing some day trading, scooping up at 75.5 on the dip, then reselling higher when he removes the wall [17:41]
Bugpowder the risk for him is that someone might just have the capital to buy the whole thing in one shot. [17:41]
Bugpowder not that selling 12000 BTC at 77.5 would be considered a bad outcome for most people :-P [17:44]
Bugpowder HEY! XRP is now listed on http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/currencies/ [17:46]
Bugpowder looks like the value is really tanking [17:46]
ZedsterX thanks for the clarification....i am just now reading day Trading for Dummies so I am currently a Dummies but learning [17:46]
Bugpowder 30dvwap is 48000 for xrp, but 1day is 71000 [17:46]
MJR_ yeah, the fact he is manipulating i think means the price is being held lower [17:47]
Bugpowder ZedsterX: of course we don't really know what is in the mind of that trader, but that's what it appears to be. [17:47]
MJR_ buy buy buy [17:47]
ZedsterX i get it Bug thanks [17:47]
Bugpowder This is typically a very active time of day though, that wall is really temping someone I bet... [17:47]
ZedsterX ok that confuses me [17:48]
ZedsterX but i am reading as we speak [17:48]
ZedsterX no need to elaborate just yet....lemme learn a bit more [17:48]
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MJR_ i bet he cancels once someone really starts to eat into it [17:49]
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MJR_ let loose the dogs of war [17:49]
ZedsterX MUHUhahah [17:50]
ZedsterX :) [17:50]
Bugpowder yah, but you can't cancel it in time if someone eats it all in one go. [17:50]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1088 BTC [-] [17:50]
Bugpowder time for lunch.... hopefully we will be >80 when I get back. [17:50]
unbalanced__ Okay with The Wall and The Dogs Of War, time to turn on the Pink Floyd [17:51]
Bugpowder ;;bids 0 [17:51]
gribble There are currently 36671413 bitcoins demanded at or over 0.0 USD, worth 9038379.57806 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0189 seconds [17:51]
mircea_popescu why "manipulating" ? [17:51]
mircea_popescu why can't it just be some dude who wants to sell at that price. [17:51]
jborkl mp, can you process my deposit. thanks [17:52]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: because people love a story [17:52]
mircea_popescu jborkl done Diablo-D3 heh i guess so [17:53]
jborkl Thank mp [17:53]
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Chaang-Noi http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkRoad/comments/1b1lvy/warning_the_silk_road_revealed_its_public_ip_last/ [17:53]
Diablo-D3 OH SHIT [17:54]
Diablo-D3 SERIOUSLY? [17:54]
mircea_popescu aaahahahaah [17:54]
Diablo-D3 PWNED [17:54]
Chaang-Noi well, if that get shut down not exactly good for btc [17:55]
mircea_popescu so this means in fact sr is either a honeypot or else has been under law enforcement scrutiny for months [17:55]
mircea_popescu because don't tell me they didn't know. [17:55]
Diablo-D3 dude [17:55]
Diablo-D3 Ive been saying its a honeypot since the day 1 [17:56]
mircea_popescu Once the server is seized, it can either be taken offline and analyzed for evidence right then and there, or left online and modified to better accrue evidence. In the case of SR, leaving the server online and modifying the purchase mechanism to not encrypt addresses on the server would be the obvious choice. Law enforcement would immediately have access to all addresses, private messages, etc. [17:56]
mircea_popescu ^^ [17:56]
Doffx Lot of assumptions there. [17:57]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10899 BTC [+] [17:57]
Chaang-Noi the public ip could be a fake ip [17:57]
MJR_ yes [17:58]
Doffx It assumes law enforcement also noticed this. [17:58]
MJR_ or they could just be in a jurisdiction that gives two shits [17:58]
Chaang-Noi i hope to god it is in n korea [17:58]
MJR_ think new zealand could be good enough [17:59]
MJR_ mircea_popescu: not exactly "manipulating" but anyone who puts an order that large out there is probably not trying to just sell or buy, they would layer it and break it up so that it wasn't obviuos [18:00]
mircea_popescu so this takes out sr. [18:00]
mircea_popescu mpex is LITERALLY the one left. [18:00]
mircea_popescu dun dun dun [18:00]
deadweasel um, change IPs? [18:00]
MJR_ or iSP [18:01]
pizzaman1337 bit4x hasn't been hacked [18:01]
mircea_popescu MJR_ why shouldn't it be obvious ? [18:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 269 @ 0.000711 = 0.1913 BTC [+] [18:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 131 @ 0.000711 = 0.0931 BTC [+] [18:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 60 @ 0.000712 = 0.0427 BTC [+] [18:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 680 @ 0.000713 = 0.4848 BTC [+] [18:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.MPOE-PT] 1820 @ 0.000713 = 1.2977 BTC [+] [18:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 9 @ 0.10899 = 0.9809 BTC [+] [18:02]
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assbot [BTCTC] [COGNITIVE] 1 @ 0.144 BTC [+] [18:05]
smickles < mircea_popescu> so this means in fact sr is either a honeypot or else has been under law enforcement scrutiny for months <<< probably since that initial address change [18:06]
jcpham never even visited it [18:06]
smickles i did a few times, but there wasn't ever anything worth buying [18:07]
smickles porn an laserpointers [18:08]
Chaang-Noi wall gone right? [18:08]
smickles the 80.01 one? [18:09]
Chaang-Noi no the 12000 at 77.5 [18:10]
Chaang-Noi taken down or eaten? [18:10]
Chaang-Noi i guess taken down, hmm [18:10]
saulimus I'd say taken down as well [18:10]
Chaang-Noi if only i had a million on gox :) [18:10]
smickles there wasn't that much volume recently, so taken down [18:11]
Chaang-Noi and backto 78 [18:11]
Chaang-Noi yeah vol is how i checked too [18:11]
smickles o.btc [18:12]
smickles $vwap oix [18:13]
mpexbot smickles: ^OIX 1 day: no data 7 day: average: 71.99677481 high: 78.31645607 low: 48.45538965 volume: 50180 btc: 4750.25972448 30 day: no data [18:13]
Chaang-Noi 78.5 [18:13]
Diablo-D3 !ticker [18:14]
assbot Hell, ain't we about more fucked than a whore at closin' time, huh? [18:14]
Diablo-D3 ;;ticker [18:14]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 78.00000, Best ask: 78.40000, Bid-ask spread: 0.40000, Last trade: 78.00000, 24 hour volume: 68609.09897307, 24 hour low: 71.89779, 24 hour high: 79.72001, 24 hour vwap: 76.15356 [18:14]
Diablo-D3 OH COME ON [18:14]
Diablo-D3 GO TO INFINITY ALREADY [18:14]
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Diablo-D3 [18:14]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74998 BTC [+] [18:16]
Chaang-Noi 79 [18:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 14 @ 0.00499 = 0.0699 BTC [+] [18:18]
Chaang-Noi i see one share trade and im like wtf... then i remember that share is $50 [18:18]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-TRADING-PT] 1 @ 0.1304 BTC [-] [18:18]
KRS1 diablo are you expecting it to go up or something [18:25]
KRS1 this is looking plateau-ish, isnt it? [18:26]
KRS1 just curious, im no expert or anything [18:26]
mircea_popescu i did a few times, but there wasn't ever anything worth buying <<< i kept saying it's irrelevant but NO!!! DRUGS!!! SR BIGGER THAN MPEx!!!1 [18:26]
Diablo-D3 KRS1: Im expecting it to go up, actually [18:27]
KRS1 that would be nice...im trying to buy more, but on a dip at some point [18:27]
smickles mircea_popescu: remember when sr was down for 2 weeks, and it had no impact on bitcoin? [18:28]
mircea_popescu yes. [18:28]
mircea_popescu one of the reasons i was saying that. [18:28]
MJR_ quick question, and don't laugh [18:28]
MJR_ does coinbase have trouble when you SELL bitcoins on their site? [18:28]
MJR_ or is it pretty much only on the buy side [18:28]
deadweasel smickles: was that when they got sql attacked or wahtever? [18:29]
deadweasel I used to think SR impact was large, I'd like to go look at the data for that period. [18:29]
smickles deadweasel: I don't think so. I believe they were idiopathicly offline [18:29]
deadweasel remember when it was? [18:30]
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smickles and you probably used the think it was large because the media and all the people who didn't thake the time to research the topic kept saying it was 3/4 of the bitcoin economy [18:30]
smickles It was in november iirc [18:30]
mircea_popescu all the media = reditards [18:31]
mircea_popescu what media. [18:31]
smickles mircea_popescu's blog has an article written at the time, which documents the date [18:31]
deadweasel smickles: i think that's why I thought so too. i have some reditard in me, that much is obvious. [18:31]
mircea_popescu lol [18:31]
smickles mircea_popescu: what media? news publications and blogs [18:31]
mircea_popescu yeah yeah [18:32]
mircea_popescu deformedia. [18:32]
deadweasel I would like to find out how many SR users become bitcoin adopters. or if most of them just OD. [18:32]
smickles the news people were especially on about the relative size of sr when that senator was bitching about bitcoin [18:33]
deadweasel but i'll never know [18:33]
smickles well, i don't think too many drug users od... [18:33]
mircea_popescu lethal ods are really about as frequent as septicemia [18:34]
KRS1 od figures are very low considering the number of users..dont ask me how i know guess i came across stats on that one day [18:34]
smickles especially since most drug users are either smokers or drinkers. but if we set that aside, most drug users are probably using pot, which takes thousands of pounds to od in [18:34]
smickles s/in/on/ [18:34]
deadweasel ok, the more important part is how many of the SR users turn to BTC as a whole, whether it be speculation, assets, whatever. [18:35]
MJR_ ;;goxlag [18:35]
gribble 0 seconds [18:35]
deadweasel or do you think most pick up some BTC, get their stash, and do it again in a few weeks.... never realizing the power of BTC [18:35]
mircea_popescu deadweasel i don't think many really. [18:35]
smickles I'd bet it's a foot in the door. they may not start using BTC regularly right away, but it's psycologically addictive [18:36]
deadweasel don't i know it! [18:36]
deadweasel :D [18:36]
smickles like all the peeps who heard about bitcoin on 'Security Now' and ran a client for fun [18:36]
assbot [BTCTC] [S.DICE-PT] 11 @ 0.00499 = 0.0549 BTC [+] [18:37]
smickles then some months later btc was up to 30, and they took interest [18:37]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.0006361 = 0.5089 BTC [+] [18:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2850 @ 0.00064816 = 1.8473 BTC [+] [18:39]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.465 BTC [+] [18:44]
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smickles ;;calc 31/(1-.6633) [18:45]
gribble 92.0700920701 [18:45]
smickles nice [18:46]
smickles ;;calc 1/(1-.09251) [18:50]
gribble 1.10194051725 [18:50]
smickles ;;calc 75/(1-.09251) [18:50]
gribble 82.6455387938 [18:50]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.07264594 BTC [+] [18:54]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C730T] 1 @ 0.08527257 BTC [+] [18:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 800 @ 0.00425029 = 3.4002 BTC [-] [18:54]
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smickles ;;calc 75/(1-.07264) [18:56]
gribble 80.8747412008 [18:56]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.46 BTC [-] [18:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.73925 = 2.2178 BTC [-] [19:00]
Bugpowder "MPEx just sponsored hosting for bitcoinity. Definitely check it out!" [19:01]
Bugpowder noice [19:01]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 2 @ 0.10899 = 0.218 BTC [+] [19:01]
smickles really? Bugpowder: was that one of those popup messages? [19:02]
smickles ooooh, mircea_popescu you sly dog [19:02]
smickles lol, link to dark themed mpex [19:02]
MJR_ nice [19:04]
Bugpowder yeah, it popped up on bitcoinity [19:04]
Bugpowder bring back the coffee theme! [19:05]
jurov lol seems coinbr.live needs dark skin too nao [19:06]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10898 BTC [-] [19:07]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.09 BTC [-] [19:08]
mircea_popescu haha i see ppl use bitcoinity [19:09]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34999 BTC [+] [19:14]
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assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.004587 = 0.0459 BTC [+] [19:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 10 @ 0.00459 = 0.0459 BTC [+] [19:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [GSDPT] 1 @ 0.00459 BTC [+] [19:18]
mircea_popescu actually i would say jurov;s truck looks even better in dark faq [19:21]
smickles http://courtroom-joke.pen.io/ [19:21]
jurov lol [19:22]
KRS1 heh [19:22]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74998 BTC [+] [19:23]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74999 BTC [+] [19:23]
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thestrin1puller good news everyone [19:33]
thestrin1puller we are all gonna get laid!!!! [19:33]
thestrin1puller thanks to popesci [19:33]
thestrin1puller popescu* [19:33]
deadweasel um, i'm already getting laid [19:33]
deadweasel but thanks! [19:33]
cylta thestrin1puller: why? [19:34]
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deadweasel also, if you get romanian nymphos, use protection :) [19:38]
deadweasel ;;ticker [19:39]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 78.01004, Best ask: 78.50001, Bid-ask spread: 0.48997, Last trade: 78.50001, 24 hour volume: 59775.07560411, 24 hour low: 72.60000, 24 hour high: 79.72001, 24 hour vwap: 76.48701 [19:39]
mircea_popescu wait. wut ? [19:40]
mircea_popescu ;;eauth mircea_popescu [19:41]
gribble Request successful for user mircea_popescu, hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/8A736F0E2FB7B452 [19:41]
mircea_popescu ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:5d85a0d3d71fae1ea046dbcce6669c5252d0c741731614e7736ad361 [19:41]
gribble You are now authenticated for user mircea_popescu with key 8A736F0E2FB7B452 [19:41]
mircea_popescu ;;rate comboy 1 He's the Bitcoinity guy. [19:42]
gribble Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user comboy has been recorded. [19:42]
cylta mircea_popescu: do you still sell accounts for 30 btc? =) [19:42]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.1 BTC [+] [19:43]
mircea_popescu cylta yeah, reg fee is 30 btc. [19:43]
mircea_popescu happily the exchange rate is doing the work for me so i don't have to raise it. [19:44]
cylta it's 2.3k $ [19:44]
mircea_popescu kinda cheap huh. [19:44]
KRS1 I'm a noob at this stuff, even after working with and mining BTC for almost 2 yrs now, can someone answer a question about OTC for me? [19:44]
mircea_popescu yes KRS1. also, don't ask to ask. jsut ask. [19:45]
cylta KRS1: sure, just ask it [19:45]
Bugpowder askwall at 75 now [19:45]
Bugpowder ;;asks 75 [19:45]
cylta mircea_popescu: what is the total value of all asstes on mpex? [19:45]
gribble There are currently 0 bitcoins offered at or under 75.0 USD, worth 0.0 USD in total. | Data vintage: 0.0014 seconds [19:45]
mircea_popescu cylta like 1.3mn btc. [19:45]
cylta Bugpowder: mtgox x5 7.3039 @ 78.92499262 USD [19:45]
KRS1 ok sorry bout that..so I 4000 btc for sale at 77.756 each on otc..I can buy from this guy at a discount (compared to current M.P.)? [19:45]
KRS1 why would he want to sell at that price? [19:45]
cylta KRS1: he will not able to sell all amount because of low liquidity on market [19:46]
Bugpowder ;;bids 75 [19:46]
gribble There are currently 8953.862 bitcoins demanded at or over 75.0 USD, worth 678866.343559 USD in total. | Data vintage: 58.5529 seconds [19:46]
Bugpowder cylta: feel free to use my fingerprint for a 5BTC discount on the signup fee :) [19:46]
cylta KRS1: so, it's profitable for him to sell just a bit below, because it will be more than he will get if he will sell at market price... market price is limited to 10 btc aprx. [19:46]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 3 @ 0.46 = 1.38 BTC [-] [19:47]
KRS1 oh i see..buys are a bit low in demand so he's trying to discount them to get rid of em at a good price without bringing market price down [19:47]
cylta Bugpowder: hehe =) I don't think that I will ever be so self confident, that I will able to make more than 2.3k$ on trading. [19:47]
cylta KRS1: right [19:47]
KRS1 thanks! [19:47]
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cylta KRS1: but buying such amount now... it's very risky. [19:47]
jborkl you won a seat on the MPEX echange , which has inherent value [19:47]
KRS1 funny biz ya'll are in. [19:47]
jborkl own [19:48]
jborkl not won [19:48]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 5 @ 0.4531 = 2.2655 BTC [-] [19:48]
KRS1 love what you are doing here mp [19:48]
mircea_popescu ;) [19:48]
cylta jborkl: as I know, you can't sell it [19:48]
jborkl why not [19:48]
Bugpowder_ sell your private key [19:48]
cylta jborkl: I mean whole account, so it does not cost it any more [19:48]
jborkl yes you could [19:48]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00449999 = 4.5 BTC [+] [19:49]
jborkl mp goes by key , not by name [19:49]
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Bugpowder_ I must say, buying a seat on MPEX was the second best decision I made in bitcoinlyfe [19:49]
cylta Bugpowder_: did you earn enough to pay back for it price? [19:49]
mircea_popescu ahaha [19:49]
mircea_popescu time for the ponzigraph ? [19:50]
Bugpowder_ I am up about 200BTC today alone [19:50]
jborkl He owns a seat on the exchange, which has appreciated in value [19:50]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.453 BTC [-] [19:50]
Bugpowder_ so yes [19:50]
cylta Bugpowder_: what are you doing? just buying low selling high? [19:50]
Bugpowder_ options [19:50]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [19:50]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.49000, Best ask: 77.80434, Bid-ask spread: 0.31434, Last trade: 77.80434, 24 hour volume: 60634.32567194, 24 hour low: 72.60000, 24 hour high: 79.72001, 24 hour vwap: 76.51197 [19:50]
Bugpowder_ I also have traded all the securities [19:50]
cylta Bugpowder_: selling or buying? [19:50]
Bugpowder_ I have done it all [19:50]
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Bugpowder_ futures, diff futures, the CDO offering, the S.BBET IPO [19:51]
cylta Bugpowder_: okay, does it mean that other people at mpex loose 200btc? [19:51]
Bugpowder_ Not necessarily. If the value of a security goes up, then everyone wins [19:51]
Bugpowder_ for options, those are zero sum [19:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1000 @ 0.00449999 = 4.5 BTC [+] [19:52]
Bugpowder_ the MPOE bond holders pay [19:52]
Bugpowder_ but MPOE has averaged 12% return on equity per month [19:52]
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Bugpowder_ since inception [19:52]
cylta Bugpowder_: okay. probably i'm just too stupid to understand all this things... [19:53]
KRS1 same.. [19:53]
Bugpowder_ All in, the MPEX account fee is probably <1% of total personal profits so far. [19:53]
smickles drat. my daughter found out how to have the printer give a test page [19:53]
KRS1 I bet its safe to say bugpowder has lost a coin or two as he was learning.. [19:53]
Bugpowder_ I've lost hundreds in a few hours [19:53]
smickles i suspect Bugpowder_ is ahead overall [19:54]
Bugpowder_ buying puts on a dip [19:54]
KRS1 which is easy with options? [19:54]
jurov cylta, there's also coinbr.com, almost as good as having mpex acct directly [19:54]
Bugpowder_ But in the S.BBET IPO, I flipped about 200BTC into 400BTC in about 20 minutes. [19:54]
smickles i'll vouch for coinbr, it's a good service [19:54]
mircea_popescu that ipo was wild. [19:54]
KRS1 wow.. [19:54]
Bugpowder_ cylta, if you have <500BTC to invest, I'd stick to coiner. [19:54]
Bugpowder_ coinbr [19:54]
cylta jurov: thanks, I already was there but they offering limited usability afaik [19:55]
smickles coiner, lol. that sounds like a bad word [19:55]
jurov yea but wwe can do anything that doesn't have the interface there manually on request [19:55]
smickles mircea_popescu, you're just one of those *coiners*. go back in your hole [19:55]
KRS1 bugpowder- thanks sounds like sound advic [19:56]
jurov cylta, or is the prob somewhere else? [19:56]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [SDICE] 1 @ 0.453 BTC [-] [20:10]
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taub what does an exchange seat do Bugpowder_ [20:28]
taub and how much is it [20:28]
Bugpowder_ you can trade directly on MPEx [20:29]
Bugpowder_ It's 30BTC. [20:29]
Bugpowder_ or 25BTC with referral [20:29]
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Bugpowder_ otherwise, use coinbr [20:29]
Bugpowder_ I should get paid for this PR job I'm doing here. [20:29]
taub :) [20:32]
jurov Bugpowder_: you can. just get a coinbr affiliate link :) [20:33]
Bugpowder_ ah! [20:34]
taub option depth is really non existant [20:34]
Bugpowder_ wait a minute [20:34]
Bugpowder_ bot is updating [20:34]
Bugpowder_ depth is basically unlimited [20:34]
Bugpowder_ if you are willing to pay the premium [20:35]
taub prolly should read that book on options [20:36]
taub but sounds interesting [20:36]
smickles what is with mpoebot recently, i've been noticing more time when it's not offering [20:36]
taub mpex really could use a facelift [20:37]
taub doesnt really work on prmoting itself either! [20:37]
smickles taub: consider that that website is not mpex [20:37]
jurov taub, have you seen dark version? http://mpex.co/?r=1 [20:37]
jurov that's as much facelift as we'll ever get [20:37]
taub black as my soul :) [20:37]
smickles mpex is the exchange, it's not like the nyse tradefloor has a web portal [20:37]
taub haha ok [20:37]
jborkl MPEX could not be easier to use, once you learn how to use it [20:38]
jurov but i guess, if someone creates nifty css for it, i can serve it on mpex.coinbr.com [20:38]
Bugpowder_ I liked the coffee theme with the rounded edges. [20:38]
Bugpowder_ taub, mpoe bot has been flaky the last few days [20:39]
Bugpowder_ not sure why [20:39]
Bugpowder_ if you wait around for 15 minutes, bid and asks will probably show up [20:39]
Bugpowder_ 1000 contracts at each strike [20:39]
jurov overloaded by the volatility, its model converges slowly? [20:39]
Bugpowder_ maybe? frankly I'm surprised its not out of captial [20:40]
Bugpowder_ 400,000 contracts [20:40]
Bugpowder_ traded [20:40]
Bugpowder_ probably strong skew to long BTC [20:40]
jurov or the slave girls can't keep up :) [20:40]
smickles well, it's capital is mpbor + mircea's wallet [20:40]
Bugpowder_ is it still? [20:41]
Bugpowder_ I thought its just mpbor now [20:41]
smickles yeah, he's 'lender of last resort' [20:41]
Bugpowder_ still? [20:41]
smickles i didn't think it changed [20:41]
jurov it didn't happen so often recently, but he's still there [20:41]
Bugpowder_ maybe he needs to add funds [20:41]
smickles well buy my offerings if mpoebot isn't there [20:42]
jurov anyway seems it arrived [20:42]
Bugpowder_ taub Bot is back, check now [20:42]
smickles got my new laptop-bought-with-bitcoins [20:43]
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smickles named it "Lappy9001" [20:43]
Bugpowder_ congrats! from where? [20:43]
Bugpowder_ I'm still waiting on a shipment for over 2 weeks from bitcoinstore.com [20:44]
smickles Bugpowder_: bitcoinstore [20:44]
Bugpowder_ I think something got fucked up [20:44]
smickles was it on backorder? [20:44]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C310T] 2 @ 0.60574691 = 1.2115 BTC [+] [20:45]
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jurov ^ selling a bit of my stash every day [20:46]
smickles ;;calc 31/(1-.6057) [20:46]
gribble 78.6203398428 [20:46]
Bugpowder_ It was in stock [20:46]
taub whose bot is it that puts up the options? :D [20:47]
taub mpoe bot [20:48]
smickles mpoebot and soebot [20:48]
smickles soebot is much smaller than mpoebot [20:48]
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deadweasel Bugpowder_: you got that affiliate link/ invitation code for CoinBr? [20:49]
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deadweasel I want to check it out, and I want you to get paid for all your PR. [20:49]
jurov heh. no other user around? [20:50]
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Bugpowder_ heyyyy [20:50]
Bugpowder_ let me make an account first :) [20:51]
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Bugpowder_ 5 minutes... [20:51]
kakobrekla O_o [20:51]
smickles i think we see fail soon [20:51]
jurov ... and fund it. no refcode access without funding :D [20:51]
Bugpowder_ yah sure [20:51]
kakobrekla and paying monthly fee [20:51]
kakobrekla ? [20:51]
jurov or maybe i can give you special evangelist account? [20:52]
deadweasel give him special account [20:52]
deadweasel special account that charges more fees :) [20:53]
deadweasel jurov, how many users you have on coinbr nowadays? [20:53]
jurov but can't he earn more than 1BTC/year, srsly? [20:53]
Bugpowder_ heh [20:54]
deadweasel i probably can't, Bugpowder_ can. [20:54]
taub what does the T and N mean at the end of the option names? [20:54]
Bugpowder_ depends on my pr skillz [20:54]
Bugpowder_ THIS month NEXT month [20:54]
jurov T expire this month , N next [20:54]
taub ok, but you can exercise them anytime right [20:54]
Bugpowder_ yes [20:54]
Bugpowder_ at 24hprc [20:54]
jurov yes. just usually its' better to sell to mpoebot than exercise [20:54]
taub k [20:55]
Bugpowder_ I think always better to sell to bot [20:55]
taub yea 24h price seems to make it hard to use for short term speculation [20:55]
Bugpowder_ but sometimes bot is down [20:55]
kakobrekla how come bot is taking the hit [20:55]
jurov http://bitbet.us/bet/39/network-difficulty-under-6-million/ paid ... and i made over 6btc o/ [20:56]
kakobrekla i should use that site more [20:57]
deadweasel !!!! awesome [20:57]
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* jurov pays a round [20:58]
* smickles records 17xgj1zw44D7uQWBMxYZ4whGaKJA3DDJ53 and 1M2VqN5Rx2T1K1K7kqMASn9vZPcT7Xh7mb [20:59]
jurov smickles what? u wanna beer? [21:00]
smickles I'll take a beer :D [21:01]
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benkay manhattan por moi [21:01]
Bugpowder__ Stone IPA plz [21:01]
smickles ;;gpg info smickles [21:01]
deadweasel mcallens 12 pls [21:01]
gribble User 'smickles', with keyid EA62D7CEB2450C3F, fingerprint 96ACCA7C3B09EC61B0A6D7F9EA62D7CEB2450C3F, and bitcoin address 12NjnZTVeTJ3g5C7BqfS2aQ2rLkmwiqVz6, registered on Mon Jun 20 12:24:35 2011. http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewgpg.php?nick=smickles . Currently not authenticated. [21:01]
Bugpowder__ Anyone interested in a Vegas meetup at some point? [21:02]
smickles I am if I can get away for a weekend [21:02]
smickles vegas is 8hrs away in a car [21:02]
Bugpowder__ I was thinking of getting a suite at the Aria with some friends that I got into bitcoin [21:03]
jurov anyone else wants a beer? [21:03]
Bugpowder__ after cashing out a bit. [21:03]
deadweasel i'm also 3000 miles away [21:03]
Bugpowder__ send beer here : 15P1P2XXtB3ANXzKM9a3WsAYwWBQMQS8S8 [21:03]
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smickles sweet, thanks jurov :D [21:04]
deadweasel send single malt here: 1GdtkZzhZTzBssUq6bnE27cz4rv5SJ4sr5 [21:04]
deadweasel :D [21:04]
benkay makers here: 1PKN13yoE1djfh7c4frx5kjiUhTRABkCxZ [21:05]
deadweasel Bugpowder__: got that evangelist account link yet? [21:05]
taub 1CbcoatRNRj3tGY9G6nXqf143o8Vzd4rmA cheers [21:05]
jurov he did not ask. but got a beer instead [21:05]
Bugpowder__ I'm getting drunk off this 6pack [21:06]
Bugpowder__ tonight [21:06]
jurov cheers! round closed. [21:06]
Bugpowder__ I sent funds... waiting for it [21:06]
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deadweasel Bugpowder__: np, thanks! just msg me when you get it, i'l use it when I get home. [21:07]
deadweasel jurov, thanks! [21:07]
taub ty [21:07]
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jurov basically the bet was a hedge to back iDiff-O offering [21:08]
jurov but things went lucky so that diff law low when iDiff expired and jumped up before the bet resolved [21:08]
jurov so, free money :) [21:09]
Bugpowder__ heheh [21:09]
jurov btw, your depiosit was credited [21:12]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.7381 BTC [-] [21:13]
kakobrekla was it credited with the beer money? :) [21:13]
Bugpowder__ jurov: how do I find the referral code [21:13]
deadweasel I love your BETA mermaid! [21:13]
jurov click on Profile [21:13]
Bugpowder__ kewl, you can order anything on coiner! [21:13]
kakobrekla i had a beta fish [21:14]
kakobrekla never turned humanish [21:14]
jurov mp should prolly replace NAT.ROUTERS with S.BEER [21:14]
Bugpowder__ deadweasel: Invite code is t1vLT2E7SK [21:14]
Bugpowder__ anyone else feel free to use it! [21:14]
Bugpowder__ so I can get rich [21:14]
Bugpowder__ off the labors of others. [21:14]
jurov u filthy rentier [21:15]
* jurov calls kettle black [21:15]
assbot [BTCTC] [BASIC-MINING] 1 @ 0.34999 BTC [+] [21:15]
Bugpowder__ Noice.... 2 factor auth [21:16]
Bugpowder__ via google or wallet [21:16]
Bugpowder__ 5 starts [21:16]
Bugpowder__ stars [21:16]
deadweasel Bugpowder__: thanks! [21:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74998 BTC [-] [21:18]
jurov deadweasel, the plan is for mermaid to stay: http://bitcoin-assets.com/static/coinbr-248x50.png [21:19]
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deadweasel jurov: just funded my account. nice I like the logo! [21:19]
MJR_ i like the mermaid [21:20]
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jurov but it's also warning, don't heed the calls of the sirens :) [21:20]
MJR_ yes [21:21]
deadweasel strap me to the mast with rope, plug your ears with seaweed, and ROW ON! [21:21]
MJR_ i had all my friends stuff wax in their ears, but i just tied myself to the mast [21:21]
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deadweasel wax [21:22]
MJR_ you beat me [21:22]
MJR_ high five for odyssey references [21:22]
deadweasel o/ [21:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7431 @ 0.00063815 = 4.7421 BTC [-] [21:26]
deadweasel To all passthrough operators: Have your largest gains come from IPO offerings? [21:26]
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* dub wonders if mcallens are as good as macallan malts [21:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6419 @ 0.00063815 = 4.0963 BTC [-] [21:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15184 @ 0.00064816 = 9.8417 BTC [+] [21:38]
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mircea_popescu MPEX could not be easier to use, once you learn how to use it <<< this. [21:45]
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assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.10895 BTC [+] [21:47]
assbot [BTCTC] [BTC-BOND] 1 @ 0.009989 BTC [-] [21:47]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.07287477 BTC [+] [21:47]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.07282198 BTC [-] [21:50]
deadweasel dub... i just know how to enjoy it, not spell it. [21:52]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 27 @ 0.74001 = 19.9803 BTC [-] [21:53]
assbot [BTCTC] [PAJKA.BOND] 1 @ 0.09 BTC [-] [21:53]
Bugpowder__ nobody taking me up on the asicminer offer [21:54]
Bugpowder__ i wonder why? [21:54]
deadweasel what's your offer? [21:54]
deadweasel also isn't AM rather over-valued now that they are paying themselves? [21:54]
Bugpowder__ loan me your shares [21:55]
Bugpowder__ I pay you 1.05x dividends [21:55]
deadweasel oh, my bad. ain't got none. [21:55]
Bugpowder__ and give the shares back [21:55]
Bugpowder__ in a month or two [21:55]
deadweasel but I did use your affiliate link. [21:55]
Bugpowder__ tx [21:55]
dub deadweasel: yeah pretty good stuff, I've got one of the oaked expression s [21:57]
deadweasel is that the 10 year fine oak? [21:58]
jcpham what is the asicminer offer [21:58]
deadweasel i had that last, good stuff. but then I had the 12, and remembered why it's more. [21:58]
Bugpowder__ "WARNING: This OP's account was well known and active on the Something Awful forums, in the anti-bitcoin threads in both GBS and YOSPOS (the username was changed recently). Everything /u/PaidGovernmentShill is saying should be treated with extreme skepticism until ample proof is given." [21:58]
Bugpowder__ maybe SR is not exposed. [21:58]
deadweasel jcpham: offer to lend Bugpowder__ your AM shares, he pays you 1.05x divs [21:59]
dub deadweasel: not sure [21:59]
deadweasel they grey box? [21:59]
deadweasel s/they/the [21:59]
mircea_popescu lmao [22:00]
mircea_popescu don't tell me somethingbawful is stupid enough to imagine [22:01]
mircea_popescu "they shall crash bitcoin and save the day" [22:01]
mircea_popescu by means of reddit posting [22:01]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 8 @ 0.05118997 = 0.4095 BTC [-] [22:01]
deadweasel time to leave work. adios y'all! keep makin' money! [22:01]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.07284474 BTC [+] [22:01]
dub deadweasel: I think this one http://www.thewhiskyexchange.com/P-11812.aspx [22:02]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 7 @ 0.05055601 = 0.3539 BTC [-] [22:06]
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smickles ;;calc 75/1.05055 [22:10]
gribble 71.3911760506 [22:10]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 1 @ 0.07324674 BTC [+] [22:11]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P750T] 7 @ 0.05005851 = 0.3504 BTC [-] [22:12]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.744 BTC [+] [22:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.743 BTC [-] [22:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.742 BTC [-] [22:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.741 BTC [-] [22:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [-] [22:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.73801 BTC [-] [22:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.738 BTC [-] [22:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7191 BTC [-] [22:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.695 = 1.39 BTC [-] [22:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 20 @ 0.6502 = 13.004 BTC [-] [22:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.6501 BTC [-] [22:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.6501 = 1.9503 BTC [-] [22:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.65 BTC [-] [22:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.61002 = 1.8301 BTC [-] [22:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.6 BTC [-] [22:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 19 @ 0.6 = 11.4 BTC [-] [22:17]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.59998 BTC [-] [22:17]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 2 @ 0.7056 = 1.4112 BTC [-] [22:21]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 3 @ 0.7 = 2.1 BTC [-] [22:21]
Bugpowder__ WELL THEN [22:21]
Bugpowder__ so much for borrowing asicminer and selling for .85 [22:22]
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dub yo, anyone want to borrow some asicminer? [22:22]
KRS1 bugpowder: do you have a link to your asicminer offer? [22:22]
dub ;;bc,nethash [22:24]
gribble 51891.838511036272 [22:24]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.69999 BTC [+] [22:24]
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Bugpowder__ https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=158780.msg1677534#msg1677534 [22:24]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 1 @ 0.7 BTC [+] [22:25]
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KRS1 borrow some asicminer? [22:25]
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toffoo Bugpowder__: I've been thinking about replying to your offer [22:27]
Bugpowder__ I'm thinking about cancelling it [22:27]
Bugpowder__ act fast! [22:27]
Bugpowder__ :) [22:27]
toffoo i guess there's still some bids on bitfunder, [22:27]
toffoo but with all the manual movements, pt creatations, etc. you probably won't be able to do anything too fast [22:28]
KRS1 i don't know enough about this, im still trying to structure my investment [22:28]
Bugpowder__ I'd rather just deal with existing PT funds [22:28]
Bugpowder__ than ASICMINER itself [22:29]
toffoo right, i'd have to create them, i got the real things [22:29]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [22:29]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.39000, Best ask: 77.44000, Bid-ask spread: 0.05000, Last trade: 77.39000, 24 hour volume: 58618.02997539, 24 hour low: 73.11000, 24 hour high: 79.72001, 24 hour vwap: 76.81664 [22:29]
ThickAsThieves I leave you guys for a few hours and you can't even get the price to 80? cmon [22:29]
Bugpowder__ yah I'll do bitfunder still [22:29]
ThickAsThieves ;;bc,stats [22:29]
gribble Current Blocks: 228159 | Current Difficulty: 6695826.282596251 | Next Difficulty At Block: 229823 | Next Difficulty In: 1664 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 8 hours, 2 minutes, and 58 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 6975914.74409 | Estimated Percent Change: 4.18303 [22:29]
dub buttfunder is even harder than btct [22:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00063516 = 0.6352 BTC [-] [22:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00062873 = 4.5269 BTC [-] [22:30]
mircea_popescu Bugpowder__ late :D [22:30]
dub you need a weex account, tickle ukyo's balls, expose yourself to serial scamee DT [22:30]
Bugpowder__ blah [22:30]
Bugpowder__ hmmm they have puts on the price though [22:31]
Bugpowder__ heheh [22:31]
Bugpowder__ maybe I'll just do that [22:31]
Bugpowder__ nah [22:32]
Bugpowder__ not enough liquidity to make it worth it [22:32]
Ukto dub: how is bitfunder hard? [22:32]
Ukto and wha serial scams are you refering to ? [22:32]
ThickAsThieves jokes [22:33]
dub don't you need an acct on weex to use bf? [22:33]
Ukto correct. what about that is "hard"? unless clicking some buttons is "difficult" [22:33]
dub well its an extra account to have for no appreciable reason [22:33]
Ukto there are many reasons [22:34]
Ukto ranging from security and so on [22:34]
dub lol [22:34]
mircea_popescu Ukto what's your take on the entire fincen thing btw ? [22:34]
mircea_popescu re weex [22:34]
Ukto mircea_popescu: its great news. [22:34]
Ukto doestne ffect weex [22:34]
Ukto weex is not in the us [22:34]
Ukto its AU [22:34]
dub also you have to trust some guy with an anime avatar.. sheesh [22:34]
Ukto dub: evil world dominating anime avatar [22:35]
Ukto :) [22:35]
Lyspooner mircea_popescu have you said anything about fincen yet? [22:35]
Ukto fincen has shown it will not make an enemy of bitcoin and specified how to do it legal [22:35]
mircea_popescu Lyspooner yes. i have said "here is fincen saying what I said back in october and all the reddit "lawyers" laughed at" [22:35]
Lyspooner what did you say in october [22:37]
mircea_popescu they should bake me pies. [22:37]
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mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-reasons-why-bitcoin-securities-cant-be-regulated-by-the-sec/ [22:37]
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Ukto well, they require licensing if your a us based exchange. [22:41]
Ukto thats really about it [22:41]
Ukto they tried to touch on directly selling ecurrenc for $$ (local/direct trades) [22:41]
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Ukto but they cant really enforce it. [22:41]
Ukto i think it was put in there to make someone shut up [22:41]
Ukto who was bothering them [22:42]
Ukto :P [22:42]
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MJR_ fuck that was a boring day [22:42]
Ukto its like how copying vhs's was illegal [22:42]
MJR_ yes, exactly [22:42]
benkay and let's be real here for a half damn second if you want to play in this space in the us it means licensing [22:45]
benkay anyone who says otherwise and tries to operate out of the us will likely get their face stomped in [22:45]
toffoo eventually [22:45]
benkay you'll note that most people in the space are operating from *outside* the us [22:45]
benkay there are some idiots here who are doing things to some degree or another [22:46]
benkay but nobody playing in the big bad scawwy assets space [22:46]
benkay herr popescu aside but see above [22:46]
Bugpowder__ 77.5 eaten [22:50]
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Bowjob ;;ticker [22:51]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 77.77125, Best ask: 77.98000, Bid-ask spread: 0.20875, Last trade: 77.98000, 24 hour volume: 60339.76121126, 24 hour low: 73.11000, 24 hour high: 79.72001, 24 hour vwap: 76.84286 [22:51]
_Cristian benkay: what's with popescu? [22:52]
benkay _Cristian what about? [22:52]
_Cristian you mentioned him earlier and I was curious to find out more [22:52]
benkay you must be blue here [22:53]
benkay http://mpex.co [22:53]
benkay his shop[ [22:53]
Bugpowder__ Ukto, so if I buy puts on ASICMINER on bitfunder. When I execute the puts, do I get the difference between the last price and the strike price or what? [22:53]
benkay bugpowder it's a 24hr vwap [22:53]
benkay iirc [22:53]
Bugpowder__ ;;ticker [22:53]
mircea_popescu haha 24hr vwap ftw. [22:53]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 78.12474, Best ask: 78.20340, Bid-ask spread: 0.07866, Last trade: 78.12474, 24 hour volume: 60030.23352097, 24 hour low: 73.11000, 24 hour high: 79.72001, 24 hour vwap: 76.85850 [22:53]
_Cristian benkay: and is it trustworthy? [22:53]
Bugpowder__ 78.5 [22:53]
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benkay _Cristian you have to make that call on your own [22:53]
Bugpowder__ sup tiberiusiv [22:53]
mircea_popescu "A cat can survive fall from height of hundreds of Cheap Ray Bans Glasses feet." [22:54]
mircea_popescu today i learned. [22:54]
benkay did you read about the guy running loads of free porn sites to drive up pageviews on his health sites for impressionfraud? [22:55]
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benkay itty bitty little iframes all over the porn sites [22:56]
Ukto Bugpowder__: sorry in depth programming atm [22:56]
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benkay programmed to make 1 visitor to the porn site look like 1 visitor exploring the other sites [22:56]
Ukto Bugpowder__: if you execute a put, you get (amount) * (strike price[aka trade price]) [22:57]
Ukto or you get amount [22:57]
Ukto depending on if its a call or a put [22:57]
Bugpowder__ Do I need to own shares to buy a put? [22:57]
Bugpowder__ or to exercise a put? [22:58]
Bugpowder__ HERE WE GO [22:58]
Bowjob i got richer while i slept [22:59]
Bowjob mhm [22:59]
kakobrekla go back to sleep [22:59]
Bowjob i know, i should be sleeping normally at this hour [23:00]
Bowjob :/ [23:00]
Bowjob UPS charged me an exorbitant fee for my headphones, grr [23:00]
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Namworld How much richer? [23:02]
Bowjob not much like you guys, only have a few btc [23:03]
Namworld Good enough [23:04]
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Bowjob but that $21.00 brokerage stung. wtf [23:05]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.C750T] 2 @ 0.07590368 = 0.1518 BTC [+] [23:07]
benkay whatchoo talkin about bowjob? [23:07]
benkay broker fees on coinbr? [23:08]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 3 @ 0.699 = 2.097 BTC [-] [23:08]
Bowjob nah, UPS.. I got something shipped [23:08]
Bowjob If it was USPS there wouldnt be brokerage [23:08]
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benkay what do you mean by brokerage? [23:11]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 6 @ 0.7 = 4.2 BTC [+] [23:11]
benkay the shipping cost? [23:11]
dub he left [23:11]
benkay well. [23:11]
dub possibly customs brokerage though [23:11]
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dub theres an insidious form of idiot tax I've encountered where customs try to push you through a brokerage to pay sales tax [23:16]
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Bugpowder__ ;;bids 75 [23:19]
gribble There are currently 11005.086 bitcoins demanded at or over 75.0 USD, worth 834370.275355 USD in total. | Data vintage: 15.6584 seconds [23:19]
Bugpowder__ pressure is building.... [23:19]
Namworld yeah [23:21]
Namworld lotta pressure... [23:21]
benkay chart? [23:23]
jurov Bugpowder__: you can keep the tesla. http://www.wired.com/autopia/2013/03/mercedes-benz-sls-electric/#slideid-56056 [23:24]
Bugpowder__ need space for the carseat. [23:25]
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dub as are european ones [23:26]
Lyspooner http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1b2diz/bitcoinica_liquidation_it_is_likely_that_any/ [23:26]
benkay us market topped in july [23:27]
benkay '11 [23:27]
benkay btc bubble popped in oct [23:27]
Bugpowder__ US market has not topped yet [23:27]
dub not sure that was related to any market [23:28]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 2 @ 0.7 = 1.4 BTC [+] [23:28]
Bugpowder__ BTC is pretty uncorrleated I would say [23:29]
dub other than the one that got hacked, had all its coins sold off and destroyed confidence in btc in generall [23:29]
jurov us is irrelevent [23:30]
jurov everyone waits for govt to verify them [23:30]
jurov it's drive by eu atm [23:30]
benkay listen to the orthodoxy [23:31]
jurov so this rally last 2 weeks is caused by usd doing something? [23:32]
jurov there should have been a peak in also 2009 then, no? [23:35]
jurov ..er..2010 i mean [23:35]
assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 100 @ 0.65 = 65 BTC [-] [23:36]
jurov so you are shorting, right? [23:36]
Bugpowder__ looks like you are having trouble predicting the past [23:37]
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jurov now why do you think that is? [23:38]
jborkl so by your terms, bitcoin will stop going up when the fed stops printing money, which will be never [23:40]
jborkl both US stocks and BTC will top out roughly the same time [23:41]
jurov and where else will the money go to, then? [23:41]
jborkl that is what you said, which is patently wrong [23:41]
jurov the herd will start buying usg bonds? puhleaze [23:42]
jborkl 800 million market cap for bitcoins, in the world economy is exactly shit [23:42]
jborkl .000000001 percent [23:42]
jborkl maybe less [23:42]
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jborkl lol, ok we [23:43]
jborkl network hash rate is more important and adoption [23:43]
jurov what fundamentals it did have? [23:44]
jborkl Friday is coming up- worried about your options? [23:44]
jborkl does not matter to me [23:44]
Lyspooner how many of the 60,000 75puts did mircea_popescu buy? [23:45]
jurov certainly did not have an adoption in 2011 [23:45]
jborkl dollar liquidity is a oxymoron [23:45]
jurov how can dollar liquidity tighten i current situation, i ask again? [23:46]
jurov and 2012 was adoption by scammers, real business adoption started only in recent months [23:46]
jborkl pointless argument, deflactionary currency compared to static supply [23:46]
jborkl deflationay [23:47]
jborkl nm [23:47]
jurov but how will credit contract? all these bad mortgages will magically get repaid? [23:47]
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jurov or bernanke will burn heaps of usd bannotes? [23:47]
jborkl add more 0'z to world debt [23:47]
jborkl 0's [23:47]
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assbot [BTCTC] [ASICMINER-PT] 7 @ 0.7 = 4.9 BTC [+] [23:48]
jurov ELI5 what is the credit contraction you're esposuing [23:48]
Diablo-D3 yeah but tiberiusiv [23:48]
Diablo-D3 you're forgetting one thing [23:49]
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Diablo-D3 no one cares about the dollar anymore [23:49]
Diablo-D3 tiberiusiv: WRONG [23:49]
Diablo-D3 WRONG WRONG WRONG [23:49]
jborkl lol, I am out [23:49]
Diablo-D3 he does NOT report to the treasury [23:49]
Diablo-D3 the federal reserve is NOT part of the treasury [23:49]
Diablo-D3 [05:48:50] bernanke can only create dollars as long as the treasury market lets him. [23:50]
TheSeven this channel is tripping my spam protection bot's flooding threshold :P [23:50]
Diablo-D3 you said this [23:50]
TheSeven BOMB market? :P [23:50]
Diablo-D3 [05:48:50] bernanke can only create dollars as long as the treasury market lets him. [23:50]
jurov "Credit contractions are attempts to minimize or limit the amount of credit that is currently available to consumers." <<< but it's NOT possible anymore [23:50]
Diablo-D3 thats what you said [23:50]
Diablo-D3 the federal reserve does not issue bonds, so I dont understand what you're getting at [23:50]
jborkl they can't stop , or the bond traders don't get paid $20 mil for the year [23:50]
jborkl so, they don't give a shit [23:50]
Diablo-D3 bernake reports to the 5 largest banks in the world [23:51]
Diablo-D3 (which also happen to be the 5 largest banks in the US) [23:51]
Diablo-D3 tiberiusiv: no, if he doesn't do what hes told by the federal reserve board he is fired and replaced [23:51]
Diablo-D3 the 5 largest banks tell him to keep printing money illegally [23:51]
Diablo-D3 the federal reserve does not have authorization from the US Federal government to print money [23:52]
jurov i repeat, bernanke can't get away with not extending credit anymore [23:52]
jborkl and who exactly rates AAA credit? LOLOLOL [23:52]
jborkl fail [23:52]
jborkl fail [23:52]
Diablo-D3 lol [23:53]
Diablo-D3 the two largest bond rater agencies are afraid of lowering the US credit rating [23:53]
Bugpowder__ "21.19 Cyprus Finance Minister Michael Sarris has said uninsured Laika depositors could face an 80pc haircut, and might have to wait up to seven years for a payout." [23:53]
Diablo-D3 they dont want to die [23:53]
ThickAsThieves worst thing about putting someone on ignore is when no one else does [23:53]
Bugpowder__ 80% HAIRCUT [23:53]
Diablo-D3 ThickAsThieves: you ignored tiberiusiv? [23:53]
ThickAsThieves i go back and forth [23:54]
Diablo-D3 ThickAsThieves: well, I did too [23:54]
ThickAsThieves when i dont understand whats going on i have to turn him back on [23:54]
Diablo-D3 tiberiusiv refuses to read the constitution [23:54]
Diablo-D3 thats not my problem [23:54]
jborkl US is not AAA - fail [23:54]
jborkl AA outlook negative [23:54]
jborkl fail [23:55]
ThickAsThieves ;;estimate [23:55]
gribble Next difficulty estimate | 6940247.63172 based on data since last change | 7288653.72639 based on data for last three days [23:55]
ThickAsThieves ;;ticker [23:55]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 78.49000, Best ask: 78.49001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 78.49001, 24 hour volume: 61542.22530806, 24 hour low: 73.11000, 24 hour high: 79.72001, 24 hour vwap: 76.94045 [23:55]
Bugpowder__ the market says Treasuries are safe relative all the other shit out there [23:55]
jborkl dollar printing is highest in history [23:55]
Bugpowder__ not that they are AAA [23:55]
Bugpowder__ currency of last resort is the dollar [23:55]
Namworld Stupid dollar printing.. [23:55]
Bugpowder__ tiberiusiv: if you can get away with it, why not [23:56]
Namworld People getting taxed, really. [23:56]
Namworld Who needs taxes when you can print money? [23:56]
jborkl Robbed, exactly [23:56]
Bugpowder__ gov will run up the debt until market forces them not to [23:56]
Bugpowder__ there is no credible alternative reserve currency [23:56]
Bugpowder__ yet [23:56]
jborkl so your argument for bitcoin is wrong - as you just stated [23:56]
jborkl can not rise, because interest rates would go up- then they can't pay the bills- already in a death spiral [23:57]
jborkl just really slow [23:57]
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jborkl really really slow [23:57]
jborkl so, peoople are going to sell bitcoins to convert to $ to pay bills? [23:58]
Bugpowder__ I really think that BTC is not being driven by macro liquidity right now, but speculative fever and capital flight [23:58]
Diablo-D3 Bugpowder__: I believe it is liquidity [23:59]
Bugpowder__ it is an implausible reserve currency, that gains a little more traction each day. [23:59]
jurov tiberiusic, so you really think ppl will start selling btc and buying US treasury bonds anytime??? [23:59]
Bugpowder__ anyway. Nobody cares that cyprus just said 80% haircut over 100k now? [23:59]
jurov you imply they will [23:59]
jborkl I am not concerned with price movement now, I got in - if it goes back to 30 or 40 w/e [23:59]
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