Forum logs for 27 Jul 2014

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
chetty [00:02]
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asciilifeform chetty: that train of thought was about what one is to do -in- mexico. [00:03]
asciilifeform it isn't hard (presently...) to physically leave usa. [00:05]
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jurov did anyone mention the homeland can always ask to extradite you? [00:08]
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jurov lol this chan causes its own slashdot effect now? is slow and throws errors [00:13]
chetty it isn't hard (presently...) to physically leave usa.// you'll never really know until you try [00:14]
benkay chetty you were a usian once, non? [00:14]
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chetty indeed benkay [00:15]
benkay chetty: and no longer? [00:19]
benkay mircea_popescu: per will the coverage be tracked for each D.*? [00:20]
assbot F.DERP June Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [00:20]
DreadKnight finally found it [00:23]
assbot Kind of Normal [00:23]
asciilifeform chetty: you'll never really know until you try << well, for whatever it's worth, i did manage to actually get in the airplane (instead of a waiting gasenwagen) in april. to, i admit, a little bit of surprise. but who knows about next time. [00:23]
FabianB ;;ticker --currency eur --last [00:24]
gribble 444.5262 [00:24]
chetty good job asciilifeform, I am not so sure the gasenwagen will be a joke much longer [00:25]
asciilifeform gasenwagen, unfortunately, was always real. but it has triage. [00:25]
chetty benkay, havent been back in a decade [00:26]
thestringpuller it's funny how a decade ago is 2004 [00:27]
thestringpuller i definitely feel old [00:27]
thestringpuller thanks chetty thanks a lot :P [00:27]
benkay chetty: d'you pay taxes? still have a US passport? [00:28]
benkay feel free to tell me to get stuffed with my questions [00:28]
* asciilifeform is, in case anyone didn't know, still walking 'the big zone.' [00:29]
benkay ;;ud "the big zone" [00:29]
gribble | When you are in a dangerous situation i.e. the danger zone. ... After ripping the big one, Timmy had one thing to say: "Danger Zone!" (Everyone immediatly left ... [00:29]
asciilifeform benkay: nope. [00:29]
asciilifeform benkay: большая зона. [00:29]
asciilifeform benkay: [00:30]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [00:30]
benkay ah ah [00:30]
chetty benkay, yup and yup [00:30]
asciilifeform the starred-and-striped big zone. [00:30]
chetty isnt that the big gulag? [00:31]
benkay chetty: you wouldn't be paying state taxes, though, correct? just federal? [00:31]
chetty yup, they get you on fed tax for 10 years even if you give up passport [00:31]
thestringpuller could always be like voorhees and revoke citizenship [00:32]
benkay chetty: i am aware of that bit, yes. [00:32]
benkay but the "no state taxes" thing is no small bonus. [00:32]
benkay what's the tax situation like in Argentina? [00:32]
asciilifeform thestringpuller, benkay, chetty: usa would send a tax bill to a Chukcha if he weren't behind russian rockets. law is a 'god that died.' [00:33]
chetty nasty taxes here, and huge hits for moving money in/out of country [00:33]
benkay what is "nasty taxes"? [00:34]
benkay and lolya i can imagine moving fiat into or out of ars would be an expensive proposition. [00:35]
chetty well not sure what the local income tax is, dont have a local job yet but 35% to take any money out of country [00:35]
chetty oh and a wealth tax ..5% of whatever you have over some amount [00:35]
benkay is that a one-time-thing or more like the 0.5% of "assets under mgmt" [00:36]
benkay that hits the fund investor every year [00:36]
chetty assets, and it goes up % wise at some point too, not really sure where all the gates are. I just keep my head down [00:38]
benkay 1.25 above 5'000'000 AR$ [00:38]
benkay interesting stuff, chetty. [00:39]
thestringpuller Is this why pirates bury their gold? [00:39]
chetty thestringpuller, exactly [00:39]
benkay no need to bury things anymore [00:39]
benkay it's *all* buried now. [00:40]
benkay i do look forward to constructing my last will testament and treasure hunt to reconstruct my offline keys [00:40]
kuzetsa burried treasure is a myth [00:40]
kuzetsa pirates don't do that [00:40]
asciilifeform kuzetsa: buried treasure is real, but generally results from folks who bury goodies and then get killed before they can make any use of them. [00:41]
asciilifeform like the pots of gold still sometimes found in digs of roman villas [00:41]
asciilifeform they did not save their owners. [00:41]
benkay !t h rent [00:42]
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cazalla DreadKnight, i quit when Nikasaur left : [00:42]
asciilifeform kuzetsa: still not unheard of, in russia: a construction crew, tearing up a 19th c. apartment building, finding cigar boxes with thick stacks of pre-revolution rubles, silver coins, etc. [00:43]
DreadKnight cazalla, why? xD she thinks she can do better writing crappy stuff and getting funded on apparently [00:43]
asciilifeform no prizes for guessing fate of the owner. [00:43]
kuzetsa fine fine, yeah... it has happened, and more than just pirates have done the "bury something to keep it safe" tactic, but just because it's common enough that it's "not unheard of" doesn't make it "actually a common practice" [00:45]
cazalla DreadKnight, was just coincidence but c'mon, who doesn't wann bang trashy gamer girls like her [00:45]
DreadKnight [00:46]
assbot Support Nika Harper creating words, stories, tales, and the unknown [00:46]
DreadKnight cazalla, I agree; she's quite hot and fun [00:46]
kuzetsa O_O [00:46]
DreadKnight anyway, 1600$+ a month just because; for writing; that's like 3 romanian full time jobs; I got 0 on there so far [00:47]
DreadKnight the power of bewbs. [00:47]
kuzetsa I suspect it's more than just "being female" [00:47]
DreadKnight it's a bit more, yeah [00:47]
kuzetsa some non-zero entertainment value in the produced content [00:48]
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DreadKnight though she has popularity, without that crowd funding websites are pretty useless [00:48]
cazalla DreadKnight, someone like her doing bitcoin news on youtube would get views instead of that ditzy asian girl on followthecoin [00:48]
kuzetsa well-connected and good at marketing (social media or otherwise) is probably more to do with it than "the power of boobs" [00:48]
DreadKnight cazalla, considered doing something like that with a chick I know that looks like the Dark Queen from Battletoads; got equipment and such [00:49]
DreadKnight will check the asian girl you mentioned [00:49]
kuzetsa equipment? [00:49]
DreadKnight camera / lights / green screen [00:49]
kuzetsa oh [00:49]
kuzetsa yeah, I have that [00:49]
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cazalla DreadKnight, [00:50]
kuzetsa but it's mostly used for photographing inventory stuff for 's online store [00:50]
assbot Bitcoin Below $400, Massive Security Breach, 4,000 Merchants, and Congress - YouTube [00:50]
cazalla DreadKnight, that's her, bit too skinny for me but looks ok, just lacking personality that someone like Nikasaur has, tits + her enthusiasm would do well imo [00:51]
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benkay moiety'd do better. [00:51]
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kuzetsa yeah, having a decent personality & being able to market one's self is good [00:51]
kuzetsa *cough* iJustine [00:52]
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cazalla benkay, with that accent? for sure [00:52]
DreadKnight cazalla, yeah, was just checking out some of the vids, she's so-so [00:53]
DreadKnight kuzetsa, ijustine kinda annoys me sometimes, too much of a crapple fan girl [00:53]
kuzetsa huh [00:53]
kuzetsa speaking of annoying, I've never seen a "follow the coin" video before [00:54]
cazalla how about miss hannah minx? [00:54]
DreadKnight cazalla, lol; there's also "hot for words", another youtube show about cleavage pretending to be educational [00:54]
kuzetsa not sure it's always the same person, but I jsut watched the one cazalla linked like 5 minutes ago, and the constant jumping-around shot from 20 billion camera angles per paragraph was giving me a headache [00:54]
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DreadKnight sounds like what Michael Bay does with Transformers [00:55]
cazalla DreadKnight, seen that, not my type though [00:55]
kuzetsa cazalla: I'm unfamiliar with hannah minx [00:55]
kuzetsa cazalla: privmsg [00:56]
cazalla kuzetsa, [00:56]
assbot JWOW - Let's Exercise! (^o^)b - YouTube [00:56]
DreadKnight kuzetsa, small brunette, big blue eyes, big tits that always make it into the shot and juggle around, cute stuff, lots of japanese-anime words, a doge [00:56]
cazalla you can post that in channel kuzetsa [00:56]
DreadKnight jiggle* [00:56]
DreadKnight and a lot of cleavage* [00:57]
DreadKnight and top-to-down camera angle [00:57]
DreadKnight bird eye view [00:57]
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DreadKnight all comments are about sex and boobs usually on her vids [00:58]
benkay just to throw a spanner into the works, mircea_popescu, i imagine the d-series do not pay out in the event that the companies use XCP or some such to list [01:00]
cazalla kuzetsa PM me, thinks i'm slut shaming these women lol [01:00]
DreadKnight haha [01:01]
DreadKnight they do that on their own as a hobby / job [01:01]
DreadKnight every social thing has quite a few of such women [01:02]
cazalla we could've had this conversation in here kuzetsa [01:02]
assbot "... but c'mon, who doesn't wann bang trashy gamer girls like her" [01:02]
benkay faminist! [01:03]
benkay starve 'em all out. [01:03]
benkay i'm a faminist too, kuzetsa [01:03]
mircea_popescu lol this chan causes its own slashdot effect now? is slow and throws errors << prolly cause of the log watching ppls. [01:03]
mircea_popescu mircea_popescu: per will the coverage be tracked for each D.*? << that q made no sense. [01:03]
assbot F.DERP June Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [01:03]
kuzetsa cazalla: oh uhm... well allright then [01:04]
kuzetsa I can have the discussion here instead if you really prefer [01:04]
mircea_popescu gasenwagen, unfortunately, was always real. but it has triage. <<< you failed to qualify ? [01:04]
kuzetsa I just know in #bitcoin that personal disputes and whatnot are generally expected to be done in privmsg [01:04]
benkay mircea_popescu: is "cover" for all d-series contracts or is it reserved per contract? [01:05]
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kuzetsa wow, how dose that already have over views? [01:05]
benkay eg: 50B of cover for D.BPAY, 0.2 of cover for D.BTGO [01:05]
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mircea_popescu thestringpuller, benkay, chetty: usa would send a tax bill to a Chukcha if he weren't behind russian rockets. la << actually, aren't they derping about various russian citizens sanctions and whatnot ? [01:06]
kuzetsa cazalla: so as per privmsg, I don't understand why you called me a faggot [01:06]
DreadKnight kuzetsa, that bitcoin channel seems to be dying lately, too quiet, dogecoin more fun [01:06]
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kuzetsa benkay: what's a faminist? [01:06]
kuzetsa [18:01:35] no matter how many men you throw under the bus, being a feminist is not going to lead to them fucking you [01:06]
kuzetsa [18:01:59] what? [01:06]
kuzetsa [18:02:42] huh, noticed just now that I typoed on feminist... is "faminist" a word I'm just unfamiliar with? [01:06]
kuzetsa [18:03:14] is that misspelling a word and it means something? it really was just a typo, I didn't mean to confuse. [01:06]
mircea_popescu cazalla, why? xD she thinks she can do better writing crappy stuff and getting funded on apparently << such idiocy. [01:07]
cazalla kuzetsa, i'm not sure what the problem is? [01:07]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, was expecting you would say that [01:07]
kuzetsa cazalla: well I don't understand what you're saying about men fucking me (or not) because I throw them under a bus or whatever... or why you called me a faggot [01:08]
cazalla kuzetsa, i thought you were saying you're a feminist and that i use slut shaming language [01:09]
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cazalla fwiw, i don't object to nikasaur dressing trashy [01:09]
kuzetsa your definition of "trashy", and how you used it sure did sound like slut shaming [01:09]
cazalla but it is trashy [01:09]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, most people only care about charisma and looks and that's why they fund her, not really interested in her writing; it's nice she does what she likes but that's different from what she's good at apparently [01:10]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, saying "such idiocy" to whatever I say without arguments doesn't bring much to the table of conversation [01:10]
kuzetsa cazalla: mostly I'm just confused about why feminism = faggot (that logical jump confuses me) [01:11]
benkay there's nothing wrong with being trashy [01:11]
benkay connotations are all in your head [01:11]
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DreadKnight mircea_popescu, you're probably offended because you're a blogger yourself, but since you started blogging apparently you flamed more popular bloggers, so even you agree that not everyone should be writing stuff publicly :P [01:11]
benkay excessive rouge, lipstick, heels, etc. it's a good look on the right chick. [01:11]
DreadKnight and tattoos [01:12]
benkay yeah sure - tattoos are great as well [01:12]
kuzetsa benkay: a lot of women chose to dress how they dress, wear their hair, makeup, tatoos, clothes, etc. for themselves, not for the benefit of others [01:12]
cazalla yeah, i like it on the right girl but i describe it as trashy, nfi why kuzetsa would take offense [01:12]
benkay it's clearly not for others. [01:12]
benkay doesn't mean we're not watching and watched ourselves. [01:12]
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benkay i do a pile of sales. constantly. *i* dress for others. [01:13]
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benkay when I didn't, I didn't. [01:13]
benkay ripped jeans, mohawk, the works. [01:13]
cazalla kuzetsa, because imo feminists are faggots eg andreas derpopolous [01:14]
kuzetsa choices about outwardly expressing whatever self-image one has about ones self (and/or other reasons for dressing one way or another) just doesn't seem like a friendly thing to use as a basis for labeling someone as "trashy" [01:14]
DreadKnight internet is full of porn, girls who undress on webcam; dressing slutty = more attention; ( . ) ( . ) = $$$ [01:14]
benkay look there's a hobo on the street [01:14]
benkay he's clearly not dressing for anyone [01:14]
benkay and he's also clearly trashy [01:14]
benkay ofc my definition of such is going to differ from someone else's [01:15]
mircea_popescu DreadKnight i have nfi who this is. pics ? [01:15]
benkay but i'll not be told to not speak my opinion of stuff. [01:15]
mircea_popescu and in any case, i'm not offended. [01:15]
mircea_popescu excessive rouge, lipstick, heels, etc. it's a good look on the right chick. << for sufficiently drunk guys :D [01:16]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, I linked near the quoted line, anyway seems you're too distracted to follow the conversation or reply overall, while others are debating about such women [01:16]
kuzetsa I personally don't feel "trash" or "trashy" is a good way to refer to persons --- trash is refuse, waste, compost, scrap, things to be recycled, or a computer metaphor for marking something as "trash" to be staged for deletion (such as putting one's unwanted spam emails in the trash) [01:16]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa so how does the logical jump work, from that to "not a good way to refer" ? [01:16]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, so she got popular working for League of Legends, then she quit to write apparently [01:17]
assbot Support Nika Harper creating words, stories, tales, and the unknown [01:17]
cazalla kuzetsa, it's the right word because i'd fuck her and then throw her away, trash, not the sort of woman i'd bring home to meet my parents [01:17]
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kuzetsa mircea_popescu: it's dehumanizing to label someone as a term which is not inherently describing a state which is common to persons [01:17]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: to say that a person is " [01:17]
benkay kuzetsa: ever met a girl who gets off on being degraded? [01:17]
mircea_popescu DreadKnight just some random chick, i don't see anything special about her. why's she discussed in terms of hotness or wtf. [01:17]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa of course it is. so ? [01:18]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: ...(oops, erroneously inserted a linebreak) "trash", or "trashy" is degrading to their personhood [01:18]
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mircea_popescu no, it's not. it merely claims to be. which, like all claims... [01:18]
mircea_popescu saying someone's a scammer is similarly degrading to their personhood. that's no reason not to say it. [01:19]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: to say that a person is trash is to liken that person to being a disposable, unwanted, low-value thing, not a person [01:19]
mircea_popescu yup. [01:19]
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mircea_popescu the only criterion is whether she actually is trashy, not whether her being trashy'd ruin whatever for her. [01:19]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, others find her special and hot, especially being nerdy gamer; I usually don't get why Megan Fox has many fans, but that's me [01:19]
mircea_popescu DreadKnight well megan fox got teh tits on a thin frame. [01:20]
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mircea_popescu and also she acts well :D [01:20]
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mircea_popescu !up sexy_saffron [01:20]
-assbot- You voiced sexy_saffron for 30 minutes. [01:20]
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sexy_saffron hello! [01:20]
kuzetsa hello [01:20]
mircea_popescu hey there. we're in the middle of a trashy argument! [01:20]
benkay !up fats_cd03 [01:20]
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fluffypony who's seen Jodorowsky's Dune? [01:21]
benkay this argument is trash. [01:21]
sexy_saffron oh? [01:21]
mircea_popescu DreadKnight anyway, the "idiocy" comment was re the patreon thing. the whole thing fundamentally doesn't work. [01:21]
mircea_popescu people would really like it to work nevertheless, so every few years there's a new implementation [01:21]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, for me she's just a tunned up bitch, just seen some of her roles earlier and she was playing the bitch role actually [01:21]
mircea_popescu which also fails to work. [01:21]
mircea_popescu fluffypony i think i did [01:21]
benkay (my dog just sneezed in his sleep and narrowly avoided rolling off the couch) [01:21]
benkay (hilarity) [01:21]
fluffypony just started, will report back afterwards [01:21]
mircea_popescu but anyway, i'm not a blogger myself. i just happen to keep a blog. [01:22]
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DreadKnight mircea_popescu, thought you meant my argument because you didn't said much, I agree about patreon not working unless you're popular, it's a wanna be kickstarter basically, but lacks a few important things [01:22]
kuzetsa sexy_saffron: yeah, "trash" conversation, in which my main objection is to degrading / defamatory / judgemental language being pointed at people due to clothing, hairstyle, personality, makeup, or whatever criterea is being used to target them in a dismissive manner :( [01:22]
sexy_saffron ok [01:22]
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kuzetsa I wasn't intending to have the conversation publicly, but the other party whom I was trying to ask what they meant decided the privmsg contents should be copied onto a pastebin and shared with the whole channel [01:23]
mircea_popescu people should be targeted in a dismissive manner. builds character. [01:23]
sexy_saffron I agree [01:23]
sexy_saffron honesty is cruel sometimes [01:23]
cazalla kuzetsa, no reason for that conversation to occur in PM to begin with [01:23]
kuzetsa there's a difference between constructive criticism, charcter building, harassment, bullying, and joking around [01:23]
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sexy_saffron definitely [01:24]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa ilustrate ? [01:24]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: illustrate what? [01:24]
mircea_popescu seems to me one man's constructive criticism is another man's harassment and bullying. [01:24]
DreadKnight !up HeySteve [01:24]
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mircea_popescu afaik bingoboingo's got a trial coming up on this very point [01:24]
DreadKnight HeySteve, it worked :D [01:24]
fats_cd03 whats the point of pretending like we respect each other? [01:24]
HeySteve gribble is full of shit tonight [01:24]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa that difference. but make it absolute. [01:24]
HeySteve thx DreadKnight [01:24]
fats_cd03 its not the case IRL. [01:24]
sexy_saffron there's a fine line between derision and harsh constructive criticism [01:24]
kuzetsa wow I really can't follow this channel right now [01:25]
HeySteve <+fluffypony> who's seen Jodorowsky's Dune? <- yeah that's a very interesting film. guy's a real character [01:25]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, so you poked that zoso guy on purpose to get in the spot light? marketing strategy? [01:25]
kuzetsa this topic is apparently one which a lot of people are wanting to comment on [01:25]
fats_cd03 is there some kind of internet etiquette insisting on politeness? i didnt check that box on install. [01:25]
mircea_popescu sexy_saffron yeah but if it's not objectively drawn then might as well give up. people wil just claim hurtbutts to get out of things they don't want to hear. [01:25]
sexy_saffron I haven't seen that but I like the dune adaptations [01:25]
sexy_saffron oh ya, most people can't handle the truth [01:25]
mircea_popescu DreadKnight i step on the heads of idiots. it's what i do. the only selection criteria is how lulzy they are and if im bored. [01:25]
kuzetsa FWIW, the privmsg was in-part because the channel was kinda intense and I was having trouble filtering through this many words per minute [01:25]
HeySteve kuzetsa, if you dress / act a certain way, you'll inevitably draw a reaction from others [01:25]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa it gets nuts doesn't it. and it has the harshest voice model of any chan on freenode, too. [01:26]
mircea_popescu no idea what we'll end up doing, because it won't let go im sure. [01:26]
kuzetsa HeySteve: the "had it coming" defense about agressing on somebody verbally or otherwise, to their face or otherwise isn't one I consider to be valid [01:26]
mircea_popescu on the grounds of what ? [01:26]
sexy_saffron I think the best philosophy is to just stay true to yourself and not care what other people think, as cliche as that sounds [01:26]
HeySteve kuzetsa, learning to evoke a positive reaction with your appearance / manner is just social intelligence [01:26]
mircea_popescu sexy_saffron got it. [01:27]
kuzetsa HeySteve: I'm a social idiot, quite arguably [01:27]
mircea_popescu are you also a girl ? [01:27]
fluffypony hah hah - HeySteve right at the beginning, and it's already classic - I wanted to do a movie that would give the people that took LSD at that time the hallucinations that you get with that drug, but without hallucinating. I did not want LSD to be taken, I wanted to fabricate the drug's effect." [01:27]
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DreadKnight mircea_popescu, he had a few arguments against you that could stand valid, but overall it felt like he was trying to protect his "#1 blogger by traffic" crown by trying to dis the new competition [01:27]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: old enough to be a grandmother, so no, not a girl [01:27]
mircea_popescu DreadKnight so good for him. [01:27]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa so good for you. [01:27]
HeySteve lol yeah fluffypony, one artist apparently got tripped out just talking to Jodo, you'll see [01:28]
mircea_popescu giving new meaning to "being chtulhu" [01:28]
kuzetsa oooh, I like chtulhu (somewhat) [01:28]
mircea_popescu what if there existed a chick that'd get one high by having sex, provided it's bareback. [01:28]
mircea_popescu possibly varying effects by the hole, too. [01:29]
HeySteve mircea_popescu, I think that poison ivy in batman might fit the bill [01:29]
mircea_popescu this should totally be a goddess. and yet... my memory fails me. is there such a goddess ? [01:29]
DreadKnight HeySteve, ha, I kept telling people that, especially as advice to avoid online insults or even rape, but a lot of people insist in "I can dress the way I want, nobody should care; the raper is always the guilty one!", so I'm like "ok, good luck with that mentality" [01:29]
mircea_popescu DreadKnight there's a difference between rappers and rapists. [01:30]
mircea_popescu !b 2 [01:30]
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mircea_popescu sorry but it was just too good to pass on :D [01:30]
DreadKnight kuzetsa, ha, knowing you're female makes the whole "faggot" thing funnier :D [01:30]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, yeah, thanks, typo [01:30]
mircea_popescu yea srsly. cazalla there you go, pming old ladies to call them faggots. wtf's wrong with you lmao [01:30]
DreadKnight HeySteve, s/raper/rapist xD [01:30]
kuzetsa O_O [01:30]
cazalla there's no women on the internet [01:31]
sexy_saffron ? [01:31]
mircea_popescu you know that's a very homoerotic belief. [01:31]
* kuzetsa blushes [01:31]
mircea_popescu cazalla ever tried it with a dude ? [01:31]
kuzetsa wow, now I'm having yaoi-type thoughts about a few people [01:31]
cazalla mircea_popescu, no but someone did want to in high school [01:31]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa is that when underage boys rub foreskins or what was it ? [01:32]
mircea_popescu my azn cartoons variety speak is shit. [01:32]
mircea_popescu cazalla so why not try it out sometime then. [01:32]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: no, I think the genital VS genitals rubbing thing with penises (foreskins or otherwise) is called a frottage [01:32]
mircea_popescu ;;ud yaoi [01:32]
gribble | Yaoi is a slang meaning 'boys love' or homosexuality that is used in the japanese language. Popular with fangirls who like their favorite anime guy... [01:32]
HeySteve kuzetsa not a sword fight? [01:32]
cazalla i don't understand why it is homoerotic though, my understanding it's meaning is that a woman does not have the power to influence online as she does irl [01:32]
mircea_popescu ah ok. [01:32]
mircea_popescu cazalla now that's nonsense. [01:33]
kuzetsa wow, that urban dictionary thing is pretty accurate [01:33]
mircea_popescu now lessee if i can get caught up on this monsterlog jeez/ [01:33]
kuzetsa I've totally done the fangirl thing thinking of male characters romantically / physically involved with each other [01:33]
sexy_saffron I don't think gender has much to do with influence on the internet [01:33]
sexy_saffron on the internet, no one knows you're a dog [01:33]
benkay but here, we all sort of know each other fairly well. [01:34]
cazalla sexy_saffron, clearly you've never had a woman join your guild, demand officer status, demand items while using cybering to attain that from idiots who allowed her to destroy said guild with drama [01:34]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa hey, what do you do for a living ? [01:34]
kuzetsa good job, urban dictionary, that's totally what I meant by yaoi :) [01:34]
DreadKnight sexy_saffron, talk was mainly started by chicks popular on youtube mainly thanks to cleavage [01:34]
sexy_saffron ah, well there is that lol [01:34]
mircea_popescu cazalla no, actually, i had that lol. didn't really do much. [01:34]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: retired, technically [01:35]
sexy_saffron idk, I just think people can be shitty regardless of gender [01:35]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa im looking for someone to cover the countless anime forums on the web, if you're looking for work. [01:35]
cazalla mircea_popescu, happened to me in EQ, guild leader's wife joins, she start cybering the teenage boys which undermines his authority, it all went to shit after that [01:35]
mircea_popescu sexy_saffron women can't be as shitty as men because they're inferior and all. [01:35]
sexy_saffron lol [01:36]
mircea_popescu cazalla so she's a great troll. why hate the playa ? [01:36]
kuzetsa sexy_saffron: yeah, people being unpleasant (shitty, whatever) doesn't have a strong correlation to any particular gender, race, religion, age, nationality, etc. [01:36]
mircea_popescu if i were a wife upset over matrimonial neglect i'd do the exact same thing. [01:36]
mircea_popescu only perhaps better. [01:36]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa age ? what, you kidding me ? [01:36]
mircea_popescu annyoing teenaged boys are a category. [01:36]
kuzetsa no, I'm not kidding about being retired [01:36]
cazalla kuzetsa, retired or on disability due to feminist issues such as gender dysmorphia, anxiety or other made up shit? [01:37]
mircea_popescu i meant the correlation with age. of course it correlates with gender and age, god help you with 16yo boyz. [01:37]
mircea_popescu lol this guy's got a scoring table all prepared. [01:37]
kuzetsa I still do a bit of consulting / contract work now and then though, as well as some speculation with bitcoin and such [01:38]
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fats_cd03 'and such' being? [01:38]
mircea_popescu DreadKnight: anyway, 1600$+ a month just because; for writing; that's like 3 romanian full time jobs; I got 0 on there so far <<< you know 20k a year is basically unemployment benefits. it doesn't really register as a fortune on anyone's radar. people like asciilifeform make many times that and essentially count themselves as paupers. [01:39]
kuzetsa fats_cd03: generally, this time, specifically, I probably meant the sorts of things which are often used as a basis for stereotypes or discrimination [01:39]
kuzetsa I could have instead said "or whatever" but "and such" seemed like a fun word choice this time [01:39]
* kuzetsa loads that substitition into the spintex content generation engine [01:40]
fats_cd03 so you're saying you buy and hold bitcoin, and thats it [01:40]
mircea_popescu lol [01:40]
mircea_popescu ;;gettrust assbot kuzetsa [01:40]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask kuzetsa!znc@wikipedia/kuzetsa. Trust relationship from user assbot to user kuzetsa: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: Sun Jul 15 14:54:23 2012 [01:40]
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DreadKnight mircea_popescu, it's all relative to location, might not be much money, but the more you go East, the more of a king you are [01:40]
kuzetsa ;;ratingsystem getrating kuzetsa [01:40]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask kuzetsa!znc@wikipedia/kuzetsa . User kuzetsa, rated since Sun Jul 15 14:54:23 2012. Cumulative rating 23, from 18 total ratings. Received ratings: 18 positive, 0 negative. Sent ratings: 22 positive, 2 negative. Details: [01:40]
fats_cd03 werd [01:41]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa what, wikipedia too ? you're like the perfect enemy. no wonder you'll catch a little flak here. [01:41]
benkay those 2012 ratings [01:41]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, she might be in USA, so it's not too much there indeed [01:41]
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mircea_popescu DreadKnight i think you're approaching this from the wrong angle. [01:42]
mircea_popescu living wages are living wages no matter how you turn it. [01:42]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: yes, I've been editing wikipedia for nearly a decade. [01:42]
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mircea_popescu how can you stand it ? [01:42]
kuzetsa in small doses, mostly [01:42]
mircea_popescu i can see that. [01:42]
kuzetsa oh, you looking at my main WP page under the kuzetsa handle? [01:43]
mircea_popescu you stil playing eve ? [01:43]
mircea_popescu no. [01:43]
kuzetsa eve? no, not for a few months [01:43]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, living wages depend on geographical location overall and they vary a lot though [01:43]
mircea_popescu there's a large-ish bitcoin guild, smickles' in charge these days. [01:43]
kuzetsa no eve lately ever since that incident with me being a social idiot and I pissed off a pirate corp who all put large bounties on me [01:43]
mircea_popescu DreadKnight notrly. [01:43]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa how's being a social idiot manifest ? [01:44]
mircea_popescu sexy_saffron so how goes these days ? [01:44]
sexy_saffron days go well! [01:44]
sexy_saffron lots of shooting [01:44]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, if you're referring they're relative proportion to regular job, that's kinda "notrly" indeed, but when you consider internet crowd funding, that's a different story [01:44]
mircea_popescu notrly. :) [01:45]
mircea_popescu DreadKnight: cazalla, considered doing something like that with a chick I know that looks like the Dark Queen from Battletoads; got equipment and such << she doing nudes ? [01:45]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: mostly, in my case, when I say "social idiot" I just mean I've had a low success rate for knowing what sort expecations are "standard" within cultures, groups, circles, etc. (whatever you call it -- social situations) [01:45]
DreadKnight 100$ in USA is not equal to 100$ in Thaiwan [01:45]
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mircea_popescu kuzetsa you survived here, inexplicably. [01:45]
mircea_popescu !up zzzzzzzzzzzzzz [01:45]
-assbot- You voiced zzzzzzzzzzzzzz for 30 minutes. [01:45]
* assbot gives voice to zzzzzzzzzzzzzz [01:45]
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz LOLOLOL [01:45]
mircea_popescu DreadKnight yeah it is. it' [01:45]
mircea_popescu s equal to nothing, everywhere. [01:46]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, she is but not for internet stuff; she's hot :3 [01:46]
mircea_popescu DreadKnight if you hadn't seen it. [01:46]
assbot I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [01:46]
DreadKnight in USA you can eat a day, in Thaiwian you can eat a week from 100$; just an example [01:46]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, think I had it opened, was waiting for credit [01:46]
mircea_popescu i eat once, everywhere. here, romania, new york [01:46]
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mircea_popescu a hundred buck's a decent meal. [01:46]
fats_cd03 [01:46]
assbot x64_dbg [01:46]
kuzetsa DreadKnight: that spelling is confusing me... did you mean thailand or taiwan? [01:47]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, you, but there was also internet crowd funding involved in the equation when raising money [01:47]
DreadKnight kuzetsa, thailand [01:47]
HeySteve oh man that reminds me, there was a girl who wanted to do the tits for bits thing [01:48]
kuzetsa just don't wear the bitcoin logo on stuff, they might confuse it for baht, the local thai currency :) [01:48]
HeySteve if it's still going I should let her know [01:48]
DreadKnight so if you're in thailand and raise 100$ online, that's way better compared to living in USA and raising 100$ online from crowd funding [01:48]
mircea_popescu HeySteve it is. [01:48]
DreadKnight HeySteve, bumped into a website where chicks get naked for btc a while ago [01:48]
mircea_popescu DreadKnight $100 is not worth the hassle anyway. no matter where you live. [01:48]
HeySteve cool where do I see the current entrants, mircea_popescu? [01:48]
mircea_popescu HeySteve you mean the people who already got paid ? scroll down on the article. [01:49]
HeySteve DreadKnight, girls gone bitcoin maybe? [01:49]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, it was just an example [01:49]
DreadKnight HeySteve, might be [01:49]
mircea_popescu i dun think it was. i think it's representative. you're thinking in teh wrong terms. [01:49]
mircea_popescu you want to build something that's large, not to make enough for a pizza. [01:49]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [01:50]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 594.39, Best ask: 595.02, Bid-ask spread: 0.63000, Last trade: 595.02, 24 hour volume: 3525.30240017, 24 hour low: 590.0, 24 hour high: 603.0, 24 hour vwap: 594.747163713 [01:50]
mircea_popescu cazalla: DreadKnight, that's her, bit too skinny for me but looks ok << that azn chick is god awful. [01:50]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, yes, 100$ won't personally get me far, but it would get me further than someone located in USA [01:50]
sexy_saffron I really like how my picture turned out :) [01:51]
kuzetsa O_O [01:51]
cazalla mircea_popescu, looks or personality or both? i bet she's a dead fish in bed [01:51]
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DreadKnight azn? [01:51]
kuzetsa DreadKnight: silly spelling for "asian", and I think it has other connotations [01:51]
kuzetsa !ud azn [01:51]
kuzetsa ;;ud azn [01:51]
gribble | "AzN pRydE, AzN tIL i DiE" WhOo HooOo i'm A DumBaSs DaT doEsnT knnO hOw To tyPe aNd EmBarRAsZz My rAcE anD EthNiCiTy by ClaiMinG PrYde WheN ... [01:51]
HeySteve some hotties [01:51]
mircea_popescu cazalla she looks meh and her personality is obnoxious. she speaks like she's chewing nibblets and her movements are atrocious. needs actor schooling. [01:51]
DreadKnight was considering that might be [01:51]
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DreadKnight mircea_popescu, agree, she's average, not worst choice but not best choice [01:52]
cazalla mircea_popescu, they all look the same to me [01:52]
mircea_popescu that's because you're a racist homoerotic aussie. [01:52]
cazalla azns, that is [01:52]
kuzetsa :( [01:52]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa what, did i just tinker with his personhood ? [01:53]
HeySteve a couple of those links have expired tho [01:53]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 257 @ 0.0029 = 0.7453 BTC [-] [01:53]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: hmm? oh, I was mostly just embarrased by how I got all yaoi earlier at the "no women on internet" --> "homoerotic thing to say" joke earlier [01:53]
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mircea_popescu omfg hannah minx = perianne boring's secret camho identitty ? [01:53]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: sad smiley because the homoerotic reference reminded me of it [01:54]
kuzetsa I'm such a pervert :( [01:54]
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mircea_popescu if anyone's looking to spank someone, kuzetsa's asking for it. [01:54]
benkay why the sad face, kuzetsa ? [01:55]
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benkay !up HeySteve [01:55]
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benkay dude you gotta fix your keytuation [01:55]
HeySteve thx benkay [01:55]
fluffypony someone else was struggling with it the other day [01:55]
mircea_popescu benkay: just to throw a spanner into the works, mircea_popescu, i imagine the d-series do not pay out in the event that the companies use XCP or some such to list << what's that again ? [01:56]
cazalla i don't think you can be gay and racist, at least not in australia [01:56]
HeySteve gribble says my OTP is incorrect but it works with altgribble. dunno what's up [01:56]
fluffypony The20Year I think [01:56]
fluffypony nanotube: is gribble's GPG auth broken? [01:56]
fluffypony two people reporting the same error is weird [01:56]
mircea_popescu fluffypony i authed just fine earlier. [01:56]
benkay mircea_popescu: counterparty? "colored coins" v 4.2 [01:56]
fluffypony [2014-07-25T20:07:35+0200] and it says the key is invalid [01:56]
fluffypony [2014-07-25T20:08:45+0200] ;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:532f4c (and so on) [01:56]
fluffypony [2014-07-25T20:08:49+0200] (2:08:29 PM) gribble: Error: Incorrect one-time password. Try again. [01:56]
mircea_popescu benkay it also doesn't pay if the "companies" use a myspace page to "list" [01:56]
fluffypony HeySteve: are you seeing the same error as the20year was? [01:57]
kuzetsa benkay: 'cause I know well enough to know that a lot of yaoi hentai manga comics and anime are actually degrading to the idea of gay male-bodied persons being in stable, healthy relationships, and I'm a bit ashamed of my objectification-type thinking of of strangers in a pervy way which they might take offense to if they knew I was thinking that about them [01:57]
HeySteve yes fluffypony, exactly [01:57]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa you care too much. people are here for you to objectify. have fun. [01:57]
fluffypony HeySteve: ping nanotube about it, you're not the first person [01:57]
HeySteve male-bodied persons? you mean men? [01:57]
mircea_popescu fluffypony likely they were using a stale otp [01:57]
HeySteve will do, fluffypony [01:57]
mircea_popescu ie, not ;;eauth first [01:58]
HeySteve mircea_popescu, I used ;;eauth as usual [01:58]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: I walked through what the20year was doing, his auth flow seemed correct [01:58]
kuzetsa oh, is gribble having trouble with eauth / bcauth? [01:58]
mircea_popescu HeySteve she doesn't say men because saying men would imply they have to be fucking men, and she doesn't want to nudge a bunch of pussies towards maturity. [01:58]
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mircea_popescu fluffypony weird. [01:59]
HeySteve mircea_popescu and kuzetsa, I don't like seeing awkward language to serve political purposes, it's too 1984 [01:59]
mircea_popescu good for a laugh./ [02:00]
* kuzetsa shrugs [02:00]
benkay mircea_popescu: hue [02:00]
HeySteve it doesn't really change anything, just makes communication confusing [02:00]
benkay ;;ident [02:00]
gribble Nick 'benkay', with hostmask 'benkay!~user@unaffiliated/benkay', is identified as user 'benkay', with GPG key id 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA, key fingerprint 4F7907942CA8B89B01E25A762AFA1A9FD2D031DA, and bitcoin address None [02:00]
mircea_popescu so on my box of panthers : "el tabaco te domina. dejalo". [02:00]
mircea_popescu if only all the subbie men looking for dommes knew this. [02:00]
kuzetsa HeySteve: I prefer to err on the side of sterile and verbose where being "less wordy" might result in ambiguity or leave room for interpretation [02:01]
mircea_popescu why ? [02:01]
mircea_popescu terseness is a verbosity all of its own. [02:01]
kuzetsa perhaps, though I've found that the formal terms for some of the ideas I often wish to express, are best done so in complete, gramatically correct sentences [02:02]
jurov "male-bodied persons" left me with quite a room for interpretation xD [02:02]
HeySteve I agree, meaning is like the sculpture within the marble, you have to chip away all the extraneous stuff [02:02]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa ironically, that notion got expressed in broken english. [02:03]
kuzetsa jurov: some people don't self-identify as "men" despite having the legal (and presumably, medical) status of a male person... I've had a lot of friends who don't have a strong sense of gender in their self-identification. [02:03]
mircea_popescu and you don't perceive this as a character flaw ? [02:03]
fluffypony when did #bitcoin-assets turn into Tumblr? [02:04]
kuzetsa neat [02:04]
kuzetsa I like this better than reddit [02:04]
mircea_popescu fluffypony isn't that pics only ? we has no pics. [02:04]
jurov .bait [02:04]
benkay terseness is a verbosity all of its own. // speaking in riddles is a great way to get people to think for themselves. [02:04]
fluffypony :-P [02:04]
mircea_popescu [02:04]
mircea_popescu there, fixed. [02:04]
cazalla kuzetsa, are you cis scum? [02:05]
benkay what a dainty little lock [02:05]
mircea_popescu benkay was merely a reference to yesterday's quantity / quality thing. [02:05]
jurov kuzetsa so you ask everyone about their self-identification first? what if they claim not to be persons at all? [02:05]
jurov you call them "human-shaped entity"? [02:05]
benkay my least favorite part of american english is the part where nouns aren't gendered. [02:06]
mircea_popescu who the fuck cares how people self idnetify ? all sorts of idiots self-identify as ceos of bitcoin entreprises, bitcoin investors, parts of the bitcoin community and so on and so forth ad nauseam. nobody worth two bits credits any of that self-identification crap. [02:06]
mircea_popescu benkay you should try russian. takes five days to figure out the genders of everything what goes in a entence. [02:06]
kuzetsa jurov: I've met people who self-identify some form of otherkin, and they legally still count as persons, despite a non-human self-identification... they also often accept the term "person" as being equally valid for non-human persons :P [02:07]
benkay mircea_popescu: gotta get my spanish more well-dialed first. [02:07]
kuzetsa jurov: I don't understand your point, though suspect you might be attempting a straw-man arguemnt or somesuch, or perhaps poking fun at my use of the word "person" [02:07]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa no, he's just gay and spunky. [02:07]
kuzetsa (please clarify) [02:08]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: oh... that works too [02:08]
kuzetsa I like spunk [02:08]
benkay !b 1 [02:08]
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kuzetsa oh dear [02:08]
mircea_popescu now what's bashable about some woman liking spunk ?! [02:08]
benkay kuzetsa: do you have a particular bent for the genderqueer crowd? [02:08]
kuzetsa isn't spunk some sort of euphamism for semen or some other bodily fluid? [02:08]
jurov i mean, what do you do if you feel the word "person" to be loaded and demeaning [02:08]
jurov ? [02:08]
DreadKnight let the girl like spunk. [02:09]
mircea_popescu it's nourishing! [02:09]
benkay now what's bashable about some woman liking spunk ?! // it's a good demonstration of some fundamental human characteristics. [02:09]
benkay constants, if you will, if such a thing can exist. [02:09]
jurov lol spunky. you have no idea. [02:09]
benkay i think perhaps mircea_popescu does have an idea [02:09]
DreadKnight this channel so logged and censored >_< feels a bit like a concert where everybody has phone up to film [02:09]
DreadKnight record* better term [02:10]
benkay logged and censored? [02:10]
DreadKnight "!b 1" [02:10]
mircea_popescu allow me to continue supplying hardware : [02:10]
mircea_popescu DreadKnight how is it censored ? [02:10]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: interesting, I guess you find BDSM to be "not unpleasant" based on the past 2 datapoints [02:10]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, by removing stuff from log [02:10]
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mircea_popescu DreadKnight that hasn't happened yet has it ? [02:11]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, guess not... [02:11]
DreadKnight so nvm [02:11]
kuzetsa I'm reminded earlier about a comment someone made about women who like to be demeaned or humiliated or whatever [02:11]
benkay DreadKnight: [02:11]
assbot #bitcoin-assets bash [02:11]
mircea_popescu meh where was that link with the girls [02:11]
benkay that's a pretty funny tan [02:12]
kuzetsa that's not the same thing as being non-consensually defamed by a stranger [02:12]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa there you go [02:12]
benkay o we do consensual defamation these days? [02:12]
assbot NSFW - Mosu’ cu joarda pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [02:12]
benkay implying defamation is also rape now? [02:12]
mircea_popescu speech requires no consent. [02:12]
mircea_popescu well, sex either, but that's a different story. [02:12]
benkay omg rape is a subcategory of sex! [02:13]
benkay heretic! [02:13]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: I didn't know for sure, so I tossed the partial phrase: [unu’ care se pricepe la absolut tot] into google translate -- romanian? [02:13]
mircea_popescu no irs not. it's a kind of assault. [02:13]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa "one that knows everything". it's ironic, as in, he THIN?KS he does. [02:14]
mircea_popescu romanian does a lot of subtext like that. [02:14]
benkay btw y'all, don't be using bit-c [02:15]
mircea_popescu bit-c ? [02:16]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: oooh, so is it an idiomatic non-literal phrase similar to in english, calling someone a "know-it-all" ? [02:17]
mircea_popescu similar. [02:17]
* kuzetsa nods [02:17]
mircea_popescu << chicks. [02:18]
kuzetsa I was unable to get the entire page to play nicely with google translate [02:18]
kuzetsa it ended up translated to something or other about paid conent [02:18]
benkay ;;google bitc/bit-c [02:18]
gribble The BitC Programming Language: ; BitC Documentation: ; bit-c/bitc · GitHub: [02:18]
DreadKnight what's with the nudes? mircea_popescu :D [02:18]
benkay that third one [02:18]
benkay ;;google bitc/bit-c [02:18]
gribble The BitC Programming Language: ; BitC Documentation: ; bit-c/bitc · GitHub: [02:18]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa yeah trilema lets you see a few articles each week, then you gotta pay. much to DreadKnight's fortune, he's not yet discovered how much btc amassed into that address. [02:19]
kuzetsa *content, specifically: "This article is available for a fee." [02:19]
mircea_popescu DreadKnight b-a tradition. [02:19]
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mircea_popescu we used to have a dedicated bot but then it was too tame or something [02:19]
benkay i miss ozbot [02:19]
mircea_popescu i dun recall what the issue was really [02:19]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 247 @ 0.0029 = 0.7163 BTC [-] [02:19]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: oooh, so the google translate server farm thinger has been detected as having exceeded quota? [02:19]
benkay [02:20]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa prolly. [02:20]
assbot China seals off town after man dies of bubonic plague - Yahoo!7 [02:20]
kuzetsa makes sense, neat. [02:20]
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mircea_popescu kuzetsa anyway, the gist of it is that some random ro blogger got caught stealing a pic off a chan and presenting it as himself assfucking the girl in question. [02:20]
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mircea_popescu his response was that "all blogers steal" [02:20]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, roger; was confused at first to see "Credits: 4" on your website, as I was thinking of the "cast" thingy like in movies; but yeah, you seem to write quite a bit about everything, so I see that working more and more with time as people get more familiar with technologies and digital currencies and become less scrubs hopefully [02:21]
mircea_popescu my response is this article, saying yeah, check it out, he's right. lucky me, i just stole some pictures off google which just happen to depict my own slaves. yay. [02:21]
benkay ;;later tell bingoboingo [02:21]
gribble The operation succeeded. [02:21]
assbot Arizona's Execution Attempt Goes Horribly Wrong As Man Remains Alive Nearly 2 Hours After Injection | ThinkProgress [02:21]
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HeySteve hmm if her arms were free she'd be a better scarecrow [02:21]
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benkay i've never quite grokked what goes through the tied-up human's head when they're so tied for hours [02:22]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform see, exercising is bad for you [02:22]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: actually, aren't they derping about various russian citizens sanctions and whatnot << so far, the only effect is to make u.s. small arms collectors pay double for kalash [02:22]
mircea_popescu benkay so try it. [02:22]
kuzetsa benkay: that bit-c thing reminded me of a thing I recently came across which converts LLVM bytecode into javascript: [02:22]
assbot Home kripken/emscripten Wiki GitHub [02:22]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: gasenwagen... triage. <<< you failed to qualify >> so far. [02:22]
kuzetsa emscripten is apparently pretty mature, and has been around for a few years (next month is 4th aniversary, they already have over 10k commits in the repo and everything!!!!) [02:23]
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mircea_popescu << incidentally, this is stable. she's not ghoing anywhere. [02:23]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: russian way is to use same cuffs and a radiator. [02:24]
mircea_popescu anything heavy [02:24]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: my memory fails me. is there such a goddess ? >> ishtar. [02:25]
mircea_popescu nah [02:25]
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mircea_popescu !up HeySteve [02:26]
-assbot- You voiced HeySteve for 30 minutes. [02:26]
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mircea_popescu !up dbit [02:26]
-assbot- You voiced dbit for 30 minutes. [02:26]
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benkay mircea_popescu: who'll do the tying tho [02:26]
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mircea_popescu benkay you had a wife no ? [02:26]
HeySteve thx mircea_popescu, I left a note for nanotube on that issue. [02:26]
benkay past tense lol [02:26]
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benkay hm, i suppose. [02:27]
mircea_popescu what, are you having her right now "?! [02:27]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: ...count themselves as paupers << yep [02:27]
benkay always figured there was something to the person and the theatre of it, but perhaps a more utilitarian approach is called for [02:27]
benkay you joker! [02:27]
mircea_popescu there's no theatre in slavery or in security. [02:27]
mircea_popescu where theatre begins either has long ended. [02:27]
benkay can slavery be turned on and off? [02:28]
mircea_popescu once. [02:28]
benkay yeah. [02:28]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it isn't about the money, but the chain. long chain or short chain, no matter. but, if the 20k came from a mythical machine that disgorges dough, that'd be a different matter. in my book, that's a 'fortune' - because no chain. [02:29]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform kinda what i was trying to get across to the guy, from another angle. [02:29]
mircea_popescu same with the kid on my blog asking me why i'm not the one doing the romanian btc atm. well... because they won't do it on my terms and i'm not doing it on theirs. obviously. [02:30]
asciilifeform this is why, e.g. spammers, break their necks trying to score the 20k machine. [02:30]
asciilifeform they dream of escape. [02:30]
mircea_popescu at least ideally, sure. [02:30]
benkay !s benkay dream [02:30]
assbot 18 results for 'benkay dream' : [02:30]
benkay [02:30]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [02:30]
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mircea_popescu "Woe to him whom Ishtar had honoured! The fickle goddess treated her passing lovers cruelly, and the unhappy wretches usually paid dearly for the favours heaped on them. Animals, enslaved by love, lost their native vigour: they fell into traps laid by men or were domesticated by them. 'Thou has loved the lion, mighty in strength', says the hero Gilgamesh to Ishtar, 'and thou hast dug for him seven and seven pits! Thou [02:31]
mircea_popescu hast loved the steed, proud in battle, and destined him for the halter, the goad and the whip.' [02:31]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform what part of that reads like "fuck me in the ass, get lsd, fuck me down the throat, get pot" [02:31]
asciilifeform lol [02:32]
asciilifeform nobody declined the chance to fuck ishtar though. [02:32]
mircea_popescu now how would you know that. [02:33]
asciilifeform well, legend. [02:33]
mircea_popescu it doth not say that does it ? [02:33]
* mircea_popescu is not exactly a middle east specialist. [02:34]
* asciilifeform only vaguely recalls the relevant text [02:34]
fluffypony holy fuck HR Giger is creepy in this documentary [02:34]
fluffypony he's like a creepy uncle that wants to watch you change [02:34]
mircea_popescu lmao wut [02:35]
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* mircea_popescu is really curious if benkay took the implicit "so have her lock you up" as intended or simply read the neutral statemen the other way :D [02:41]
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benkay hm? what's the other interpretation? [02:46]
mircea_popescu you locking her up [02:46]
benkay yeah no, can't imagine that answering my questions. [02:47]
mircea_popescu prolly not. make for decent dinner conversation for a while tho [02:47]
benkay myeah. plus, fun for all parties involved. [02:50]
HeySteve fluffypony for sure! was sad to hear of his death, really enjoy his art [02:50]
benkay on an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT TOPIC, mircea_popescu what sorts of events will trigger F.DERP divs? [02:51]
mircea_popescu mostly overcapitalisation [02:51]
benkay fund'll probably be around for a few years, eh? [02:51]
kuzetsa did I miss anything when I wandered off other than mircea_popescu ... wait, what [02:54]
kuzetsa fuck me in the ass, get lsd, fuck me down the throat, get pot? [02:55]
* kuzetsa tries to figure out the context [02:55]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7306 @ 0.0008003 = 5.847 BTC [+] [02:56]
kuzetsa probably just commentary or misunderstanding about some sort of confusing poetry... I hope? [02:57]
benkay kuzetsa: [02:57]
assbot #bitcoin-assets log [02:57]
jurov so if, say, bitpay suddenly croaks, F.DERP NAV will increase by 240 BTC? [02:58]
benkay this depends on what we mean by NAV [02:58]
kuzetsa benkay: oh wow... that was an awfully large gap in context from the initial comment to the later one [02:59]
jurov ;;calc (1000-793)*0.24 [02:59]
gribble 49.68 [02:59]
benkay 50btc, which incidentally is just what's in coverage [02:59]
benkay now - does nav include coverage? [02:59]
benkay kuzetsa: this is why reading the logs is mandatory to keep up with conversation [03:00]
benkay kakobrekla, mike_c, jurov, mircea_popescu: i think this is an open question. does F.DERP NAV include coverage? [03:01]
jurov !t m d.bpay [03:02]
assbot Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life. [03:02]
jurov !t m s.mpoe [03:02]
assbot Your actions are useless. [03:02]
jurov !t mpex s.mpoe [03:02]
assbot You know, I've had it up to here with this Indian malarkey. [03:02]
benkay gr8 [03:02]
jurov !ticker mpex s.mpoe [03:03]
assbot Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life. [03:03]
jurov /o [03:03]
benkay kakobrekla: assbot's broken [03:03]
benkay !mpif [03:04]
assbot F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021707 B (Total: 474.69 B). Delta: -0.59 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00019 BTC [-] [03:04]
benkay !help [03:04]
assbot List of commands: [03:04]
assbot !up (desc: sending it via PM will voice you on chan given sufficient WOT rating) [03:04]
assbot !up (desc: sending it on chan will give voice for 30 minutes) [03:04]
assbot !ticker (desc: returns current ticker values, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !t} [03:04]
assbot !last (desc: returns last price value, supported: MPEX, HAVELOCK, BTCTCO) {short: !l} [03:04]
assbot !mp (desc: returns the response from MPEX order) [03:04]
assbot !rules (desc: chan guidelines) {short: !r} [03:04]
assbot !exchanges (desc: lists exchanges and brokers) {short: !e} [03:04]
assbot !jd (desc: returns relevant stats from [03:04]
assbot !bash (desc: bashes last lines to bash) {short: !b} [03:04]
kuzetsa benkay: there's too much text in here [03:04]
assbot !quote (desc: quotes last lines and returns dpaste url) {short: !q} [03:04]
benkay kuzetsa: it ain't so bad [03:04]
kuzetsa it's busier than most channels I'm able to keep up with [03:05]
benkay so ditch the zeros and hang with the heroes [03:06]
jurov btw, says the volume is only 42 [03:09]
jurov on d.bpay [03:09]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.17011317 = 1.8712 BTC [-] {3} [03:10]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 11 @ 0.17004559 = 1.8705 BTC [-] {4} [03:11]
mircea_popescu fund'll probably be around for a few years, eh? << yes. [03:11]
mircea_popescu so if, say, bitpay suddenly croaks, F.DERP NAV will increase by 240 BTC? << yes. [03:12]
mircea_popescu kakobrekla, mike_c, jurov, mircea_popescu: i think this is an open question. does F.DERP NAV include coverage? << yes. let's model this thing : [03:12]
mircea_popescu F gets 100 btc in cash, issues 50 btc worth of f.a shares and 50 btc worth of f.b shares. 10 btc of each sells. [03:13]
mircea_popescu f now has 120 in cash. [03:13]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.17 = 0.68 BTC [-] [03:13]
mircea_popescu 100 of which is equity of shareholders, 20 is provisions. [03:13]
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mircea_popescu f.a croaks. f.b now has the same 120 in cash, but equity moves : 110 shareholders, 10 provisions. leaving a nav gain of 10. [03:14]
mircea_popescu f.b lists, the f section thereof being worth 30 btc. [03:14]
mircea_popescu f now has 90 in cash, and nav dropped 20 from last, and 10 lifetime. [03:14]
mircea_popescu make sense ? [03:14]
jurov you mean d.a and d.b ? [03:16]
mircea_popescu as the case may be, yes. [03:16]
mircea_popescu now, this is not mandatory, in the sense that an investor can evaluate the nav through absolutely any methodology that investor likes. [03:17]
jurov won't there be f.mpif-style marketmaker for f.derp? [03:18]
mircea_popescu nope. [03:18]
mircea_popescu and here's one speshul for pankkake [03:19]
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benkay fuq is going on there? [03:20]
mircea_popescu and here's one for benkay [03:21]
assbot White Slavery is Real [03:21]
benkay nom [03:22]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, could use some tutoring about stocks / shares / dividends as well, mainly from the perspective of getting something listed [03:22]
mircea_popescu ;;google how does one list on mpex [03:22]
gribble How does one list on MPEx ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea ...: ; Why List On MPEx? | When Bitcoin Met Pete: ; MPEx & Bitcoin Stock Exchanges - Bitcoin Forum: [03:22]
DreadKnight thanks [03:23]
jurov makes sense, only i suspect f.derp will fall to quirky pricing of mpex assets [03:23]
mircea_popescu mebbe [03:24]
kuzetsa ;;echo kuzetsa highlight test] [03:26]
gribble Error: Spurious "]". You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands. [03:26]
kuzetsa ;;echo kuzetsa highlight test (attempt 2) [03:27]
gribble kuzetsa highlight test (attempt 2) [03:27]
kuzetsa ah good, I correctly configured my client [03:27]
kuzetsa [20:00:17] <+benkay> kuzetsa: this is why reading the logs is mandatory to keep up with conversation [03:27]
benkay yesm? [03:27]
kuzetsa benkay: thanks for the advice --- despite being busier than I'm used to, I happen to like it here more than most channels, so I finally got around to configuring my "highlight on nick" feature on my client [03:28]
kuzetsa I really should've done it ages ago, I'm often in a more than 2 dozen channels across no fewer than 4 networks most of the time [03:29]
benkay lol that's a pretty scanty sample on which to base that [03:29]
benkay we must be p awesome [03:29]
kuzetsa (lately it's been 30+ channels across 5 networks) [03:29]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 57 @ 0.01533003 = 0.8738 BTC [+] {2} [03:30]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa i do only 1 chan [03:31]
kuzetsa I like no fewer than 4chan, but mostly because I'm such a /b/tard [03:32]
benkay wait a /b/tard who gets panty-twisted over gender assignations? [03:32]
kuzetsa ... I really don't go in /b/ much these days though (or any of 4chan, really) [03:32]
mircea_popescu o.O [03:32]
mircea_popescu are we being trolled ? [03:32]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: not by me (at this time) [03:33]
kuzetsa I occasionally attempt humor though [03:33]
kuzetsa ... and that rarely works out well [03:33]
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mircea_popescu !up BrianB [03:33]
-assbot- You voiced BrianB for 30 minutes. [03:33]
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benkay time will tell i suppose [03:33]
cazalla kuzetsa, how about /pol/ ? [03:34]
jurov on a second thought, it will result in money cumulating in f.derp whenever d.* croaks with some promise "will be paid out in few years" [03:34]
kuzetsa yes, I'm doing a pirateat40-style long con or something, except with trolling [03:34]
jurov wouldn't be better to pay out part of it right after d.* event? [03:35]
kuzetsa cazalla: which one is that on? gurochan? or is it 4chan and I just don't pay close enough attention? [03:35]
mircea_popescu jurov in principle if one wants to keep the same btc value that one just sells share [03:35]
benkay on a second thought, it will result in money cumulating in f.derp whenever d.* croaks with some promise "will be paid out in few years" // yeah, this. [03:35]
benkay i like the mpex assets that accumulate btc. [03:35]
cazalla kuzetsa, this one [03:35]
assbot /pol/ - Politically Incorrect [03:35]
benkay :thumbsup: from the kid [03:35]
jurov it's then hard to sell for me "it will never pay anything, but dun worry, mircea has it" [03:36]
* kuzetsa clicks cazalla's link out of morbid curiousity [03:36]
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mircea_popescu isn't that how everything goes ? [03:37]
jurov it does not go for coinbr :( [03:37]
jurov it needs another s.dice [03:37]
benkay now hang on just liquidate the thing when you want out [03:38]
benkay as nav goes up so will bids [03:38]
mircea_popescu ^ [03:38]
kuzetsa cazalla: thanks, I skimmed the first page of /pol/ and then when I got to the bottom I intentionally clicked a banner ad link which took me to jlist since it seemed more interesting than checking the next page [03:38]
mircea_popescu ;;ud jlist [03:39]
gribble | ... JLIHP · j'like · J Lil' Swag · j'lin · J. Lindeberg · j-line · JLing · jlining · Jlink · Jlinklet · J. Linz · Jliop · j-list · · J-lister · JLit · JLJC ... isn't defined. [03:39]
benkay mircea_popescu's committed to filling sells below nav every day [03:39]
benkay if he stops, the jig is clearly up anyways lololololol [03:39]
mircea_popescu i am ? [03:39]
jurov benkay he just said, no MM [03:40]
benkay "To maintain liquidity, all ASKS under NAV will be bought up once during the 24 hour period after the fund reports. " [03:40]
jurov that's from where? [03:40]
benkay there's no contract, clearly, which is impeding this discussion. [03:41]
* benkay elbows mircea_popescu [03:41]
benkay [03:41]
assbot Introducing F.DERP pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [03:41]
cazalla kuzetsa, l2adblock and troll harder [03:41]
mircea_popescu unrelatedly, a bond of sisterhood : [03:43]
kuzetsa cazalla: nah, I just use a sandboxed browsers and have a rate limiter on how much CPU waste any particular script can use [03:43]
kuzetsa cazalla: and incidentally, I really was bored and wandered over to jlist -- they have nice merch. [03:44]
benkay man cazalla you're p butthurt this afternoon [03:44]
cazalla kuzetsa, are you japanese? [03:44]
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cazalla benkay, not reary, just bored, little sleep, teething baby and all [03:46]
benkay brutal. [03:46]
mircea_popescu basically he's horny. [03:47]
kuzetsa cazalla: いいえでも日本語はなしま [03:49]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.00294999 = 0.59 BTC [-] {2} [03:49]
cazalla kuzetsa, i didn't think you'd be one to engage in cultural appropriation [03:50]
kuzetsa what? [03:52]
benkay generally people who get bent out of shape about gender and naming and shaming and what-has-one don't do the cultural appropriation thing, because "imperialism". [03:54]
kuzetsa fuck that shit [03:54]
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mircea_popescu lol wait, people can't speak foreign languages now ? [03:54]
kuzetsa I don't subscribe to any particular rules of conduct [03:55]
mircea_popescu in bitcoin-assets ?! when did this happen [03:55]
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benkay the torches and pitchforks approach [03:55]
kuzetsa yes [03:55]
cazalla kuzetsa, why browse and purchase items from jlist when you're not japanese, that's cultural appropriation and typical of you tumblr types [03:56]
cazalla ah, benkay already explained [03:56]
kuzetsa heh [03:56]
mircea_popescu lmao cultural appropriation get out [03:56]
cazalla it's a thing mircea_popescu [03:56]
kuzetsa yeah sure, jlist is the devil or something [03:56]
mircea_popescu on chinese keyboards ? [03:57]
mircea_popescu pity kakobrekla isn't here to tell them darned japs to stop wearing ties. SOMALIAN INVENTION. [03:57]
cazalla nfi, i didn't come up with or adhere to it [03:57]
kuzetsa cazalla: you're accusing someone of unethical non-boycotting of a presumably "bad / unethical" business when that same person also uses GHS despite the potential harms of centralization [03:57]
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cazalla kuzetsa, that'd cause more harm to your wallet, wouldn't it? [03:58]
DreadKnight that Hannah Minx chick is all about cultural appropriation xD [03:58]
kuzetsa I'm lawful evil in most things, so the concept of boycotting a business whose practices aren't illegal or against my own personal practices would just be pointless. [03:58]
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mircea_popescu <<< cuntural asspropriation. [03:59]
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kuzetsa mircea_popescu: yeah, I've done the furniture thing (let's leave it to the imagination who was the furiture for who) [04:00]
DreadKnight first thing when I open my tumblr [04:00]
mircea_popescu well inasmuch as i don't know you, what diff does it make :p [04:00]
kuzetsa DreadKnight: mine is ... not that [04:01]
kuzetsa this is the most recent dashboard post for one of my more NSFW tumblr accounts ---> [04:01]
kuzetsa (I was not trolling, I really am honestly following on that account) [04:02]
assbot Diversexity [04:02]
* assbot removes voice from BrianB [04:04]
benkay "relax clara those who think that gender determines intellectual performance can't really have a good logical thinking" [04:05]
benkay lololol [04:05]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa not bad, [04:05]
mircea_popescu benkay you an' me baby are nothin' but mammals so let's get a good logical thinkin' thing goin'... [04:06]
kuzetsa neat [04:06]
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cazalla kuzetsa, nb but too tubby for me [04:07]
benkay this is pretty funny: [04:08]
assbot Typecast (Lorde "Royals" Parody) - YouTube [04:08]
mircea_popescu << check out how close this ended up [04:11]
assbot BitBet - Block 315k mined on or before July 28th :: 0.44 B (5%) on Yes, 8.39 B (95%) on No | closed 1 week 5 days ago [04:11]
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mircea_popescu 20 hours to go, 2k blocks away. [04:11]
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mircea_popescu teh zoo of teh future! [04:13]
DreadKnight O_o [04:15]
DreadKnight wondering what's the story behind that picture [04:15]
benkay [04:15]
assbot Diversexity : Photo [04:15]
DreadKnight they seem to have knee protection, so probably walked in 4 limbs for quite a bit [04:16]
benkay also [04:16]
benkay [04:16]
kuzetsa DreadKnight: yeah, the knee pad thing is a good safety measure for uhm... science O_O [04:16]
DreadKnight first one appeals to my sapiosexual side, second one has funny face [04:17]
benkay ;;ud sapiosexual [04:17]
gribble | sapiosexual. One who finds intelligence the most sexually attractive feature. "I want an incisive, inquisitive, insightful, irreverent mind. I want someone for whom  ... [04:17]
DreadKnight kuzetsa, are you into that sort of science as well? :D [04:17]
kuzetsa DreadKnight: ah, fair enough -- I thought sapiosexual was an ok word for my own preferences until I realized the extra fancy term: "panromantic demisexual" was a much more accurate thing in my case (as far as labels go) [04:17]
kuzetsa DreadKnight: which science? [04:18]
DreadKnight means attracted by intelligence basically [04:18]
DreadKnight kuzetsa, I was quoting you :D [04:18]
benkay so uh for the retards in the room what precisely are your inclinations, kuzetsa ? [04:18]
benkay panromantic demisexual [04:19]
kuzetsa benkay: uhhh [04:19]
benkay demi - not really into sex? [04:19]
kuzetsa oh [04:19]
benkay panromantic - lover of all? [04:19]
kuzetsa as far as romantic relationships are concerned, physicallity is something I neither object to nor expect [04:20]
DreadKnight nice [04:20]
kuzetsa or is it spelled physicality? [04:20]
DreadKnight I get the idea, also googled a bit [04:20]
kuzetsa benkay: yeah, all -- in the sense of there not being any particular body type or sexual or gender identity I find to be a dealbreaker [04:21]
kuzetsa "it's all good" [04:21]
DreadKnight would be great if less people were all about sex; maybe would see less stupid people with lots of kids as well [04:21]
DreadKnight frigging humanity is a cancer [04:22]
cazalla DreadKnight, you can always neck yourself [04:22]
kuzetsa DreadKnight: cancer eh? [04:22]
benkay kuzetsa: typically people focus more on the kinds of folks they want around rather than the kinds of folks they find objectionable [04:22]
kuzetsa DreadKnight: isn't the cancer astrological sign the one that looks like a 69? [04:22]
DreadKnight cazalla, so far I don't have kids, so that basically lowers population by itself if doing the math [04:22]
cazalla DreadKnight, but if you're so smart, surely makes sense to have kids then [04:23]
benkay cazalla: that raises an interesting question. why'd you choose to have kids? [04:23]
cazalla benkay, because i thought i was going to die [04:23]
cazalla i still am, perhaps just not as soon [04:23]
DreadKnight cazalla, maybe eventually, but it's not a must, need other things first [04:23]
benkay what was the timeframe when you made the call? [04:24]
cazalla benkay, as it turns out, i had pretty bad sinus infection [04:24]
DreadKnight cazalla, anyway, plenty of kids made and abandoned, it would be smarter to adopt one then make a new one just because imo [04:25]
benkay instead of what, cancer? [04:25]
benkay DreadKnight: gotta start from a known-good state. [04:25]
cazalla yeah plus list of other shit i googled, doctor didn't really help much [04:25]
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cazalla benkay, obviously wasn't the sole reason but thinking i was going to die sooner than later, seemed like a good idea to have a kid [04:26]
DreadKnight xD [04:26]
benkay DreadKnight: this is the kind of advice that ruins people's lives: "go adopt a rescue animal for your first dog! you'll have no idea what it's suffered through or how trainable it is! think of the poor dogs!" [04:26]
benkay mnope nope nope nope nope [04:26]
benkay if you've never trained a dog, set both of yourselves up for success. [04:26]
cazalla DreadKnight, why would you adopt a kid, spend money on it when it's not even yours? [04:26]
benkay 'cause you're a hairshirt ecofreak. [04:26]
cazalla a million other kids can starve for all i care [04:27]
DreadKnight benkay, personally I think pets will pretty much disappear in favor of robots soon, but that's just me; anyway, jumping from humans to pets is quite a leap [04:27]
benkay wat [04:27]
benkay son you're crazy [04:27]
DreadKnight cazalla, we're all the same matter and it's not like I don't have physical weaknesses, same applies for my potential mate [04:28]
benkay do you have a pet, children, or any sort of long term human companion, DreadKnight ? [04:28]
cazalla DreadKnight, why not just have a friend come over and fuck your wife and raise that baby? i don't see the difference in that and adopting tbh [04:28]
DreadKnight benkay, said before I don't have children; had a few pets when I was younger; avoiding human companion atm [04:29]
benkay k you're disqualified from opining on relationships until you address all the above [04:29]
DreadKnight cazalla, adopting is when you take something already made that most likely has a shitty future; friend coming to fuck your wise is still making something brand new ;) [04:29]
DreadKnight benkay, your disqualification is invalid to me [04:30]
DreadKnight it's not like everybody needs to make a kid [04:30]
DreadKnight just to spread along some genes [04:31]
cazalla doesn't the urge to fuck come from that though [04:31]
DreadKnight I said I'm sapiosexual [04:32]
DreadKnight I'm not all about sex [04:32]
cazalla people who say that probably have small dicks [04:32]
benkay lol meaning you disqualify yourself from finding mates because they're stupid so you don't actually have to try to get laid [04:32]
DreadKnight cazalla, I'm doing really well in that field actually [04:33]
DreadKnight benkay, I'm not disqualifying myself, I like artsy chicks usually and single ones are pretty rare around [04:33]
cazalla why are you attracted to smart women DreadKnight? my wife is dumb as rock and that's how i like it [04:34]
DreadKnight haha [04:34]
DreadKnight why were you attracted to your wife? good looks? character/charisma? supportive? [04:34]
benkay cazalla needs to feel superior [04:34]
DreadKnight seems so [04:34]
cazalla not i'm just being honest [04:35]
cazalla no* [04:35]
cazalla DreadKnight, because she's loving, friendly, well natured, modest, prefers to do her craftwork, lampworking etc in her spare time instead of going out getting drunk [04:35]
cazalla plus that big ass [04:36]
mircea_popescu they seem to have knee protection, so probably walked in 4 limbs for quite a bit << yeah bursitis is no fun [04:36]
DreadKnight I'm attracted to smart women because they feel less like robots/animals, in the sense they're not all about sex / shopping / make-up; and if they even have an artistic side, like drawing, then even better :3 [04:36]
mircea_popescu panromantic demisexual << spending a lot of time daydreaming ? [04:37]
mircea_popescu "it's all good" << traditionally this isn't called anything but "desperate" you know. [04:37]
DreadKnight cazalla, sounds pretty nice overall; I prefer tities a bit more though [04:38]
mircea_popescu benkay, because i thought i was going to die << so what, something like "eh fuck the world, im dieing anyway" ? [04:38]
cazalla DreadKnight, well you should see these ones, full of milk, doubled in size :) [04:38]
DreadKnight cazalla, the thing is that around here in this city, there's a really nasty stereotype of girls, "pitzipoanca", basically a club barbie doll that's so not my type [04:39]
cazalla mircea_popescu, well yeah, if i'm honest that was part of it [04:39]
mircea_popescu son you're crazy <<< wasn't that mocsny fellow derping the same derpage in the 90s ? o, soon sex robots!!1 [04:40]
DreadKnight cazalla, pitzipoanca is usually smoking, has a lot of dresses, make-up, talks all the time on expensive latest iphone, goes clubbing all the time, listens only to music like house or manele (gypsy crap) [04:40]
cazalla DreadKnight, i don't like that either [04:40]
mircea_popescu DreadKnight the valley girl is not as romanian as you think. [04:40]
* assbot gives voice to nanotube [04:41]
nanotube fluffypony: the20year's problem was his browser was caching the old encrypted otp. heysteve's is probably same? [04:41]
mircea_popescu nanotube likely yes. [04:41]
DreadKnight cazalla, my mayor is a drug addict with classical cars and there are a ton of "posh" clubs around, so I'm not quite in the place I should probably be [04:41]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, yeah, noticed the pattern in other areas as well [04:42]
mircea_popescu benkay: DreadKnight: gotta start from a known-good state. << a well chosen known-bad state works even better. [04:42]
benkay if you're just learning how to do the thing? [04:42]
mircea_popescu a, no. [04:43]
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mircea_popescu tbh, you shouldn't be learning by doing. but hey. [04:43]
mircea_popescu cazalla: people who say that probably have small dicks << zing, srsly. [04:44]
mircea_popescu artsy chicks are hard to get by now ?! what world is this! [04:44]
benkay mircea_popescu: seems that training slaves is one of those things you can only learn by doing [04:44]
mircea_popescu try and find some twentysomething that ISNT belabouring under the delusion that she can "create" art. [04:44]
DreadKnight quite a bit of people seen me naked and they said I'm doing really good length wise; and I was really cold at that time (shrinkage) [04:44]
benkay try and find some twentysomething that ISNT belabouring under the delusion that she can "create" art. // srsly [04:45]
cazalla DreadKnight, exception that proves the rule perhaps [04:45]
benkay quite a bit of people seen me naked and they said I'm doing really good length wise; and I was really cold at that time (shrinkage) [04:45]
benkay // but nothing to compare on your own? [04:45]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, compared to other types, artsy chicks are fewer, so more difficulty in getting one [04:45]
benkay DreadKnight: that's a geography problem [04:45]
cazalla DreadKnight, you see artsy as smart, i see it as dumb, we probably like the same women [04:46]
DreadKnight so a girl who makes 3d characters is dumb, while one that only smokes and drinks is better? xD [04:47]
benkay til that dumb has nothing to do with intelligence in aus [04:47]
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cazalla DreadKnight, i'm sure i read something before that people who drink excessively are often smart [04:49]
mircea_popescu ;;google bani pentru piariste [04:49]
gribble Aprilie 2010 pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Rautati si Mizerii pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: [04:49]
mircea_popescu DreadKnight >> thjat might amuse you [04:49]
assbot Bani pentru piariste pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [04:49]
mircea_popescu i wouldn't fuck a woman that doesn't drink. [04:50]
mircea_popescu smoking... either way really. [04:50]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: I don't agree to that joke about "desperate", particularly when demisexual persons are considered part of the asexual spectrum, and in my case, I don't particularly have a strong & compelling sex drive a lot of the time [04:50]
asciilifeform zoo of the future << zoolag. [04:50]
asciilifeform !s zoolag [04:50]
assbot 3 results for 'zoolag' : [04:50]
mircea_popescu spectrum eh ? [04:50]
benkay sex drive lol [04:51]
kuzetsa yes, human asexuality isn't a black & white condition, there are gradiations and different forms it can take (like for instance, demisexual) [04:51]
cazalla mircea_popescu, i don't think people who refrain from drinking actually fuck, my missus for example [04:51]
benkay the person who drives the relationship makes sex happen, not the other way around. [04:51]
benkay ever seen two people who both like to be told what to do in bed lie there hoping the other will make a move? [04:52]
mircea_popescu ^ [04:52]
kuzetsa benkay: I'm neither exclusively top nor bottom no submisive nor dominant in that regard :) [04:52]
benkay "did his toe touch mine? ARE WE GOING TO HAVE SEX?" [04:52]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa are you basically trying to not be anything ? [04:52]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: nah, far from it -- demisexual is a thing [04:52]
mircea_popescu cazalla half wine enemas work wonders on them. [04:52]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa only according to you. [04:53]
benkay WINE ENEMA [04:53]
kuzetsa ;;ud demisexual [04:53]
gribble | Demisexuals are characterized by a lack of sexual attraction toward any person unless they become deeply emotionally or romantically connected with... [04:53]
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asciilifeform sex drive >> [04:53]
assbot FuckU-FuckMe. Changing the feel of communication. [04:53]
mircea_popescu lol asciilifeform king of pun [04:53]
benkay pwm? [04:53]
cazalla kuzetsa, you remind me of this type of person [04:54]
asciilifeform benkay: pulse width modulation ? [04:54]
benkay :D [04:54]
benkay drive jokes [04:55]
kuzetsa cazalla: a lot of those are true about me [04:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00079935 = 7.0343 BTC [-] [04:55]
mircea_popescu lmao not bad imgur. [04:55]
benkay haha [04:56]
kuzetsa cazalla: thanks for linking that too, I didn't realize the word "kyriarchy" was even a thing (this word pleases me, it's a good thing to have a word for, and as a thing, kyriarchy sucks all of the badness) [04:56]
mircea_popescu benkay WINE ENEMA << yes. a regular bottle of white wine should suffice for two girls. mix in about a liter of warm water, use a bag or syringe and finish with jewel buttplug. [04:57]
asciilifeform 'rule by the rulers', lol [04:57]
mircea_popescu ;;ud kyriarchy [04:57]
gribble | τυχαίο A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z # νέο tv. Μόδα. thot · totes magotes · colonel angus · reddit hug · poopsock · tittybong · poopsterbate ... [04:57]
benkay poopsock? [04:57]
benkay tittybong? [04:57]
mircea_popescu o hey! [04:57]
* mircea_popescu decides to be MP, Supreme Bitcoin Kyriarch henceforth. [04:58]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: this is more better than... whatever the fuck that particult urban dictioary gibberish was (and unlike urban dictionary, has actual citations) ---> [04:58]
assbot Kyriarchy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [04:58]
* asciilifeform owns '' [04:58]
cazalla benkay you've never had a poopsock? clearly you've never played an mmorpg then [04:58]
benkay i did eve for a while [04:58]
asciilifeform (think 'resistor' or 'capacitor') [04:58]
mircea_popescu well not to that degree. [04:58]
benkay but no, that sort of shit's far less entertaining than...anything else. [04:59]
mircea_popescu "Kyriarchy ("rule by a lord") is a social system or set of connecting social systems built around domination, oppression, and submission. " << yeah. basically, they now have a word to describe how the world both is and is supposed to be. [04:59]
* kuzetsa narrows eyes [04:59]
mircea_popescu well done femiderps :D [04:59]
kuzetsa libertarians piss me the fuck off too, actually -_- [04:59]
benkay they've come full circle to making sense i guess [05:00]
kuzetsa well they do and they don't [05:00]
mircea_popescu whai ? they just protest teh kyriarchy [05:00]
kuzetsa right libertarianism, specifically [05:00]
asciilifeform just wait till we plug the kyristors in. [05:00]
kuzetsa ... considering that left libertarianism isn't particularly incompatible with democratic socialism [05:01]
mircea_popescu "democratic socialism" is incompatible with reality. [05:01]
DreadKnight that imgur is what I had in mind as well overall [05:01]
cazalla or a really subtle troll [05:02]
DreadKnight :D [05:02]
mircea_popescu "FuckU-FuckMe is the most powerful, pleasurable, inexpensive, and only dual-party Internet remote intercourse tool on the market today." << this should be on an ipo [05:02]
mircea_popescu anyone here care to recycle that website into a tardstalk ipo ? [05:02]
asciilifeform lol! [05:02]
cazalla i guess the best trolls are the ones that you're not sure of [05:02]
DreadKnight agree [05:03]
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DreadKnight it's a form or art :D [05:05]
DreadKnight of* [05:05]
mircea_popescu anyway, does kuzetsa get the crown for the first libertard to have tried b-a or does truffles actually get that one ? [05:05]
kuzetsa what's a b-a? [05:05]
mircea_popescu this place. [05:05]
kuzetsa oh [05:05]
kuzetsa ok, then what's a libertard? [05:06]
DreadKnight bacon [05:06]
mircea_popescu someone who mistakenly believes that human life can have meaning outside of an opressive structure. [05:06]
kuzetsa specifically, is it a pejorative term (I assume) aimed at a particular political affiliation? [05:06]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: oh, no, I don't think humans are AT ALL MEANINGFUL IN THE WHOLE UNIVERSE EVER [05:06]
mircea_popescu generally, people who identify as liberals, progressives, social-something or the other etc. [05:07]
kuzetsa the universe would still exist if humanity was wiped out [05:07]
mircea_popescu that has nothing to do. [05:07]
kuzetsa this planet is nothing special either [05:07]
mircea_popescu this isn't an ontological discussion. [05:07]
DreadKnight xD [05:07]
DreadKnight it's political [05:07]
mircea_popescu quite. [05:07]
kuzetsa huh [05:08]
mircea_popescu basically, anyone who's to the left of, being in favour of the release of serbs in medieval germany/russia could count as a libertard, depending how the conversation turns. [05:08]
kuzetsa so to clarify, are you referring to things vaguely on the side of "social left" = libertard? [05:08]
DreadKnight kuzetsa, do you think that the opinion of all people matter? (something to step in the right direction) [05:08]
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kuzetsa DreadKnight: no, most people don't matter [05:09]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa and most of contemporary "right". [05:09]
DreadKnight kuzetsa, but why? [05:09]
mircea_popescu DreadKnight: no, most people don't matter << isn't that opressive ?! [05:09]
kuzetsa people don't matter, and their opinions tend to be at least twice as stupid [05:09]
DreadKnight why? :P [05:10]
kuzetsa DreadKnight: as mircea_popescu said, this isn't an ontological discussion (and then you chimed in to qualify: it's political) [05:10]
DreadKnight you were almost talking about aliens [05:12]
DreadKnight mircea brought you back to earth [05:12]
kuzetsa nah, more along the lines of the heat death of the universe (at which point, politics are no longer relevant) [05:13]
mircea_popescu of course they are. [05:13]
mircea_popescu what isn't relevant is said death. [05:13]
kuzetsa heat death of the universe resets everything to a state of entropy, including politics [05:13]
asciilifeform << dumped my ancient derpage in there for archaeologists to derp on. [05:14]
assbot kyristor [05:14]
mircea_popescu one of the telling symptoms of the libertard is that he'll replace his person as is with some sort of ilimited derivative of god, and pretend to concern himself with "the termic death of the universe". [05:14]
DreadKnight universe will likely reset itself, all supposedly immortal beings within it's bounds will get poked as well with it [05:14]
mircea_popescu this is not a consideration open to you, the demiamorous pansexual w/e the hell. [05:14]
* kuzetsa shrugs [05:14]
kuzetsa aliens wouldn't be as tedious as human-type people are... socializing is hard :( [05:15]
DreadKnight do you know any aliens? [05:15]
kuzetsa (this is that "social idiot" thing I mentioned) [05:15]
mircea_popescu right, the dollies wouldn't be as hard as the classmates, if the dollies were classmates. [05:15]
mircea_popescu except, they are not. [05:15]
mircea_popescu this oppressive point of reality must be digested. [05:15]
kuzetsa DreadKnight: none, no, they just seem plausibly less tedious (though not neccessarily friendly to be around) than figuring out how people work [05:15]
DreadKnight Kushed, just because they're from a different place doesn't mean they're not affected by polarity / gravity and yin&yang as well [05:16]
mircea_popescu poor Kushed [05:16]
DreadKnight right [05:17]
DreadKnight kuzetsa, ^ [05:17]
kuzetsa DreadKnight: my premise in thinking it would plausibly be less tedious isn't that they would be "better" but that it would be less "same old shit" [05:18]
DreadKnight anyway, you're kinda dodging the libertard subject thingy, so moving on I guess... [05:18]
kuzetsa I don't know what libertard means, so yeah [05:18]
DreadKnight kuzetsa, same colors in their world as well, unless they get to see more of them or maybe less [05:18]
DreadKnight or none [05:19]
DreadKnight seen a nice asian movie about humanity going blind [05:19]
DreadKnight thanks to some virus [05:19]
kuzetsa neat [05:19]
mircea_popescu i guess this one must be for cazalla [05:19]
asciilifeform asimov's 'nightfall.' 'children of men.' snore. [05:19]
cazalla mircea_popescu, still too skinny [05:20]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, nice to see contrast like that [05:20]
mircea_popescu twist : stephen king is actually going blind, and borges too [05:20]
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asciilifeform borges is dead [05:21]
cazalla i don't see the appeal in the chains plus that residue you get on your hands from shit like that would annoy me [05:21]
asciilifeform unless you're thinking of one other than jorge luis [05:21]
mircea_popescu well, were. [05:21]
mircea_popescu cazalla the appeal was supposed to be the secret life of the teenager. [05:22]
DreadKnight + [05:22]
DreadKnight it wasn't about the chain [05:22]
DreadKnight though it shows some kinkiness :3 [05:23]
cazalla are you trying to chris hanson me or something [05:23]
* assbot gives voice to mthreat [05:23]
mthreat more coverage for sexy saffron, [05:23]
assbot Porn star explains why she loves Bitcoin while stripping [05:23]
cazalla more PR than Indiancandy could pay for [05:24]
decimation ascii have you read Hal Clement's Mission of Gravity [05:24]
asciilifeform negative [05:24]
mircea_popescu mthreat cool. cazalla yes :D [05:25]
DreadKnight mthreat, she's actually from around :) [05:25]
DreadKnight yeah [05:25]
mircea_popescu DreadKnight from around where ?! [05:25]
DreadKnight channel [05:25]
mircea_popescu ah, the history we don't know :D [05:25]
DreadKnight heard a bit [05:25]
decimation What about Niven's "A World Out of Time" [05:25]
decimation 1970's prisonier who was cryo-frozen, then unfrozen in the future and sent on a mission to the center of galaxy [05:26]
* asciilifeform thinks niven is a hack [05:26]
DreadKnight decimation, ever seen Idiocracy movie? [05:27]
decimation yeah I've seen it [05:27]
decimation I started ringworld, I thought it was boring, didn't get the hype [05:27]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31550 @ 0.00079813 = 25.181 BTC [-] {2} [05:28]
decimation 2001: a space odyssey was one of my favorite movies as a kid, but I was disappointed by the book honestly [05:29]
decimation kubrik > clarke [05:30]
kuzetsa whatever, I don't care if I'm a libertard or not -- figuring out what labels even are for is too much like work [05:30]
asciilifeform labels aren't arbitrarily tacked on - they're lived. [05:31]
kuzetsa cazalla: sorry about earlier throwing a fit about the "I'd hit it" or whatever and trashy something or other (no clue what you even said, it wasn't that bad though) [05:31]
decimation you might not be interested in politics, but politics are interested in you... [05:31]
mircea_popescu decimation lol [05:31]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa you are, yeah, but the prediction attendant would be that you'd never make it here, and yet it's not coming true. [05:32]
mircea_popescu obviously social sciences aren't real sciences. [05:32]
mthreat isn't economics a social science? [05:32]
mircea_popescu indeed. [05:32]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: mostly I'm just already jaded and given up on any sort of quota for how much offensive shit I'm going to be bothered by at any given time... it sometimes takes a bit of effort to "give up and just go with it" [05:33]
decimation until someone has developed a deterministic model of the human mind, I don't think social sciences can do any thing more than tell stories [05:33]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa another victory for the kyriarchy. [05:34]
kuzetsa lulz [05:34]
kuzetsa apparently, sure [05:34]
kuzetsa I secretly got my libertard stink all over it though [05:34]
kuzetsa not even very stealthy, I think some people noticed me doing it :/ [05:35]
mircea_popescu kyriarchy does not care what you're thinking while taking its unsolicited fat cock, as long as you moan appropriately. [05:35]
mircea_popescu kinda what makes it better than oppresive regimes a la usg in the first place. [05:35]
asciilifeform !b 2 [05:36]
assbot Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( ) [05:36]
kuzetsa perhaps [05:36]
kuzetsa my problem is not knowing what's appropriate [05:36]
kuzetsa I'm far more likely to speak up when I don't understand what's going on or why than I am to "moan" (appropriately or otherwise) [05:38]
decimation " From the system's perspective, not only did it still get blown, it liked it even more. In this analogy, the system is the system and you're not." [05:38]
kuzetsa oh, that [05:38]
kuzetsa decimation: in that case, moirallegiance comes to mind [05:38]
decimation [05:39]
assbot The Last Psychiatrist: Product Review: Panasonic PT AX200U (Hipsters On Food Stamps Part 3) [05:39]
cazalla kuzetsa, that's ok, nothing offends me [05:39]
kuzetsa I enjoy debate, particularly when it turns into moirallegiance [05:39]
kuzetsa ;;ud moirallegiance [05:39]
gribble | Jul 6, 2011 ... Your soul mate in a non-romantic sense. You cannot live without this person; they complete you. They balance you. You would be lost forever ... [05:39]
kuzetsa crap [05:39]
kuzetsa wrong word [05:39]
kuzetsa I suck at fandom [05:39]
kuzetsa ;;ud kismesis [05:40]
gribble | A Kismesis is the term used to describe deep, deep hatred for someone. This is the person that you could, and will likely, hate for all your life, ... [05:40]
kuzetsa ^ so hot <3 [05:40]
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DreadKnight are you into stocks, kuzetsa ? [05:41]
kuzetsa DreadKnight: I'm more into TA and automating trades than the stocks themselves [05:41]
DreadKnight kuzetsa, well, at least they're in the same book; what are you plotting? [05:42]
kuzetsa speaking of which, I had been meaning to see if MPEX or any of the others have a decent API [05:43]
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asciilifeform 'If you want a partial understanding of why 19-21 Saudi/Egyptian terrorists could live in America and enjoy our strip clubs but still want to crumble our architecture, there you go.' [05:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19074 @ 0.00079799 = 15.2209 BTC [-] {2} [05:43]
Duffer1 any of the others? [05:43]
kuzetsa odd, is not the right address anymore? [05:44]
assbot Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [05:44]
DreadKnight [05:44]
kuzetsa ah, thanks -- lies [05:44]
assbot MPEx (MPEx1) auf Twitter [05:44]
decimation ascii I've been that engineer at the party, and I totally get his point [05:45]
asciilifeform decimation: but you aren't there now. [05:45]
kuzetsa (that twitter still shows as being the relevant site) [05:45]
assbot Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [05:45]
decimation true. one must realize that having a great respect for facts does not exclude good ol' human fun [05:45]
kuzetsa hmm, is there no REST APIs on mpex? [05:46]
benkay i guess this one must be for cazalla // nommm [05:46]
benkay kuzetsa: don't you start with what MPEx is missing. it's PERFECT - PERFECT I TELL YOU [05:46]
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decimation famously the hijackers were staying at a motel in Laurel within sight of the NSA director's office [05:46]
decimation kuzetsa, I think you will find that the folks on this channel revile using HTTP for serving up anything other than static pages [05:47]
kuzetsa benkay: well my bot only works with REST APIs (json or otherwise) so ... I kinda need APIs to use it sanely --- [05:47]
assbot Releases kuzetsa/gekko GitHub [05:47]
kuzetsa decimation: also, HTTP is not the only way of doing REST APIs [05:48]
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kuzetsa anyway, later everyone -- was nice actually talking today (as opposed to mostly idling) --- I'll bbl or something (though probably not tonight) [05:50]
DreadKnight kuzetsa, cute that you have a github account :D [05:52]
DreadKnight kuzetsa, bye for now [05:52]
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mircea_popescu my problem is not knowing what's appropriate << generally, if it's offensive it's appropriate. [06:03]
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mircea_popescu kuzetsa> speaking of which, I had been meaning to see if MPEX or any of the others have a decent API << ahhh all the history one does not know :D [06:05]
mircea_popescu (that twitter still shows as being the relevant site) << twitter is clueless [06:06]
assbot Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [06:06]
benkay oh and a side note is hardcoded into asset descs mircea_popescu [06:11]
mircea_popescu it's coming back dun sweat it. [06:12]
* kuzetsa facepalms [06:15]
kuzetsa I see, I see... now that I have nick highlighting set up on my client it actually highlights me and makes a flashing screen notification when people mention my nick [06:15]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: thanks though, I never would've noticed that (delayed) reply if you hadn't included my nick in the message. [06:16]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, hah, I like that bani-pentru-piariste article; If it was up to me I would have skipped college, but parents... *sigh* [06:17]
kuzetsa offensive is appropriate though... hmm [06:17]
DreadKnight I used to have a buddy who's an informatics teacher at a highschool; when I talked in english he usually found that rather offensive and snobbish [06:19]
DreadKnight basically he didn't knew english well enough but was afraid to admit it [06:19]
decimation what's 'informatics'? computer programming? [06:20]
DreadKnight I find it sad when I see people who want to make money from IT but they just don't focus on properly learning english first [06:20]
kuzetsa as per quote (generally, if it's offensive it's appropriate) ---> [06:20]
kuzetsa just FYI, warning, that pic is likely meant as an attempt at offending straight men [06:20]
DreadKnight decimation, computer science; basically talking about components and crap; most of the time leaving students to spend time on the internet as they wish while he's getting paid anyway [06:20]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: come to think of it, I think it was actually you who originally posted that in a bitcoin channel a couple years ago [06:21]
DreadKnight kuzetsa, we need a new plague [06:21]
decimation yeah it seems english has become the lingua franca of that kind of work [06:21]
kuzetsa DreadKnight: plague? [06:22]
kuzetsa who needs a plague... the creatures of earth? how big a plague? global pandemic? regional outbreak? [06:22]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa you have any idea how old school that is ? [06:22]
mircea_popescu exactly. [06:23]
kuzetsa I saw a game I've been meaning to try out which simulates biological attacks on the planet (earth, or some other... don't recall) or something [06:23]
DreadKnight decimation, ex-gf bugged me a lot to teach her web design / coding so that she can make a lot of money easily; she fails at english and she's not passionate or smart enough; and people around said I'm against finding a companion and rather set high standards xD [06:23]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: how old school "that" is ... which "that" are you referring to? [06:23]
DreadKnight kuzetsa, "we need a new plague" is from "The office" show, it's basically a meme now, google it [06:25]
kuzetsa oh [06:25]
kuzetsa I've seen the office (both the UK and american variant) [06:25]
DreadKnight tried to watch UK one as well, simply stopped. [06:25]
DreadKnight don't want to see the exact same jokes by copy cat actors all over again [06:26]
DreadKnight and not always very fond of british accent and words [06:26]
kuzetsa ah found it --- (it's apparently called "plague, inc.") [06:27]
assbot Plague Inc: Evolved Official Launch Trailer - YouTube [06:27]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, did you went to college yourself? it's a bit of a trend now apparently for people in IT set on becoming rich [06:28]
DreadKnight kuzetsa, meant google image search [06:28]
DreadKnight kuzetsa, guess it's the movie you mentioned [06:29]
kuzetsa DreadKnight: movie? [06:29]
kuzetsa what movie? [06:29]
kuzetsa [23:23:25] <+kuzetsa> I saw a game I've been meaning to try out which simulates biological attacks on the planet (earth, or some other... don't recall) or something [06:30]
kuzetsa "plague inc." is a game, not a movie [06:30]
DreadKnight yeah yeah [06:30]
DreadKnight seems interesting [06:31]
kuzetsa that's a trailer for the PC / console version, it was originally a smartphone/tablet app [06:32]
DreadKnight most smartphone/tablet games are jokes [06:32]
kuzetsa I got a lot of fun out of fruit ninja and angry birds before I was sick of them [06:33]
DreadKnight free-to-play applied horribly mostly, other times people trying to make a quick buck with minimum amount of work [06:33]
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benkay don't want to see the exact same jokes by copy cat actors all over again // ahaha wait wasn't the UK one first? [06:57]
cazalla kuzetsa, you're going to have to try much harder, that image is ofn and very tame. Choosing which one you would fuck if you had to is still a tough decision though [07:02]
cazalla fwiw, i'd fuck B, can look past the cock, can't the physique of the left [07:03]
DreadKnight benkay, yes, was afraid it might have been the case; [07:06]
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DreadKnight kuzetsa, which the office you liked more? [07:06]
DreadKnight benkay, seen them both? [07:06]
benkay hell no that's not comedy. [07:06]
DreadKnight benkay, anyway, "copy cat" as in trying to fill the same shoes, so doesn't matter what order, if you see something else trying to be the same thing, it just feels wrong [07:07]
DreadKnight uncanny valley effect, like in games [07:07]
kuzetsa DreadKnight: It was so long ago I can barely remember either [07:10]
kuzetsa DreadKnight: though I think I like the non-UK office better [07:10]
kuzetsa trying to decide if I want to analyze the behavior of Win32/Bropia.G.worm in a sandbox or just nuke it and let someone else do the forensics tonight :( [07:11]
kuzetsa I mean... err... I'm retired, I never do anything O_O [07:11]
DreadKnight nuke it [07:12]
DreadKnight it's a worm [07:12]
DreadKnight = virus of some sort [07:12]
kuzetsa well yeah, but occasionally they're fun to watch [07:12]
DreadKnight go for it if that's your late saturday night type of fun [07:12]
DreadKnight hah, just found this [07:13]
assbot Peer to Peer Bitcoin Lending - BTCJam [07:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9700 @ 0.00079981 = 7.7582 BTC [-] [07:14]
kuzetsa DreadKnight: yeaaaaah... nuking this worm is too much like work, I shouldn't have been so bold and reckless to begin with, so it's my own damn fault :( [07:17]
kuzetsa wiping the sandbox and doing a rollback to a clean snapshot was quicker *sigh* [07:18]
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DreadKnight kuzetsa, why are you still on windows? xD [07:19]
DreadKnight heh, I recall you said a few times you're old [07:19]
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kuzetsa DreadKnight: nVidia optimus on my craptop doesn't get full functionality on non-windows OS, sadly. [07:20]
DreadKnight afaik that does well on linux now, oh well [07:21]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27350 @ 0.00079981 = 21.8748 BTC [-] [07:24]
kuzetsa DreadKnight: really? including the ability for the drivers to power down the geforce 540GT mobile when it's not needed? (to save power) [07:24]
kuzetsa DreadKnight: any clue if it's nouveau, bumblebee, or some other driver solution? (the one which "does well"... also, which distro(s) have you tested it with?) [07:27]
DreadKnight [07:27]
assbot How to set up nVidia Optimus/Bumblebee in 14.04 - Ask Ubuntu [07:27]
kuzetsa oh, ubuntu? uhg :( [07:27]
DreadKnight and flavors [07:27]
DreadKnight it's not mandatory to use unity DE, you have plenty of options that work better for lower end devices [07:27]
DreadKnight ubuntu is just a foundation, you can customize your OS as you wish [07:28]
DreadKnight there's driver for nouveau as well afaik [07:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24950 @ 0.00079981 = 19.9553 BTC [-] [07:28]
kuzetsa DreadKnight: or I could just build my own bumblebee from source (with or without the gentoo ebuild to guide things into a sane, usable state) --> [07:29]
assbot Gentoo Portage Overlays - x11-misc/bumblebee [07:29]
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DreadKnight building from source and gentoo are for nerds; funny to hear that stuff since you're using windoze atm [07:30]
* kuzetsa shrugs [07:30]
DreadKnight :) [07:31]
DreadKnight it's ok to be a nerd, I'm one too, that tries to avoid compiling though [07:31]
kuzetsa applying stereotypical assumptions and substituting loose correlations in place of logic [07:32]
kuzetsa I often am guilty of that when I talk smack about ubuntu or the userbase [07:33]
kuzetsa kinda like what you just did with "you're using windows" argument, but not as cool [07:35]
DreadKnight well, you're toying around with worms [07:35]
kuzetsa nah [07:35]
DreadKnight I often hear windows users complaining about antiviruses, viruses and a lot of other stuff [07:36]
DreadKnight like every day [07:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10100 @ 0.00080221 = 8.1023 BTC [+] [07:36]
DreadKnight I'm like "switch damn it and stop complaining already" in my mind [07:36]
DreadKnight gave up on windows a long time ago because of that kind of crap [07:36]
benkay bitcoin's going to fix that for them [07:37]
kuzetsa benkay: hmm? what is bitcoin going to fix? [07:37]
DreadKnight + [07:37]
DreadKnight switching to linux? xD [07:37]
kuzetsa no clue what you mean by "switching" [07:37]
DreadKnight same [07:37]
benkay people using windows. [07:37]
DreadKnight how? :P [07:38]
thestringpuller i use windows [07:38]
kuzetsa I use 3 or more OS per day most days, and rarely less than 2 (and one of them is always my linux box sitting at the local datacenter) [07:38]
thestringpuller and bitcoin on windows [07:38]
thestringpuller Stop hating benkay [07:38]
thestringpuller You're os'ist [07:38]
DreadKnight I'm not sure what bitcoin has to do with the OS [07:39]
DreadKnight though I'm not very fond of windows [07:39]
kuzetsa DreadKnight: I am, windows has a good reputation for being more solid for gaming than linux or mac [07:39]
thestringpuller wow [07:40]
kuzetsa other than that it's a very small (and constantly shrinking) list of apps which are native windows ones and happen to be part of some workflow or other [07:40]
thestringpuller "Bill Gates pushed for DirectX in the 90's now everyone writes for windows when on PC thus windows is better" argument [07:40]
DreadKnight kuzetsa, lmao; plenty of linux games, plus linux can also run windows games; that reputation is total FUD, it's based on people believing that and keeping at it [07:40]
DreadKnight thestringpuller, ikr [07:40]
kuzetsa thestringpuller: driver support too, not just the directx API / abstraction layer [07:40]
thestringpuller DreadKnight: it's damn near impossible to run some games on Linux that were for windows. [07:40]
thestringpuller that's why Steam OS won't drop until 2015 most likely. [07:40]
DreadKnight it's like buying games for nintendo console and wanting to play them on your ps3. [07:41]
thestringpuller Yea. [07:41]
kuzetsa thestringpuller: also, Steam OS is probably not going to support anonymous, random hardware as well as windows [07:41]
benkay DreadKnight: bitcoins will vanish mysteriously from all windows boxes. [07:41]
DreadKnight benkay, oh, I sure hope so and it sounds pretty likely to happen [07:42]
thestringpuller benkay: that's why you gotta use better TX scripts :P [07:42]
thestringpuller i encrypt all my paper wallets with triple GPG [07:42]
benkay quit trollin, thestringpuller [07:42]
DreadKnight thestringpuller, tell that to the average joe [07:42]
benkay you run gpg on windows [07:42]
* benkay throws his hands up [07:42]
benkay it's futile, i tell ya. [07:42]
thestringpuller When someone logs in as me on this channel [07:43]
DreadKnight how to I list gpg key id's btw? using shell/terminal [07:43]
thestringpuller and uses my gpg key to identify [07:43]
thestringpuller then I will call it futile!!! [07:43]
benkay you don't wait for your house to catch fire to admit that you built it out of paper and paper burns [07:43]
benkay you don't build a fucking house out of paper in the first place [07:43]
DreadKnight bacon [07:43]
thestringpuller exactly [07:43]
kuzetsa bacon is good encryption [07:43]
thestringpuller benkay just hates on OS'es [07:43]
kuzetsa I think I need to go encrypt a sandwich, brb [07:43]
benkay citation required [07:43]
thestringpuller I'm going to make a Windows tile for Bitcoin. [07:43]
DreadKnight he should, windows sux and all that it's good about it is related to Bill Gates stealing and getting ahead [07:43]
benkay i'm going to make a stab-you-through-the-internet for everything [07:43]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 50 @ 0.01170001 = 0.585 BTC [+] [07:44]
DreadKnight anyway, no point in having an OS war [07:45]
DreadKnight enjoy your windows but stop complaining of constant buthurt [07:45]
thestringpuller LOL. I use all OS'es [07:45]
thestringpuller like colbert I am color blind [07:45]
thestringpuller i just pretend everyone is white and it's all good. [07:45]
DreadKnight bringing games as an argument is like you're deliberately trying to play the same few games that just aren't made with other operating systems in mind [07:45]
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DreadKnight using linux for about 10 years yet I suffered a lot from being addicted to gaming [07:47]
DreadKnight and people keep saying "not enough games on linux" [07:47]
thestringpuller ergo game consoles [07:47]
thestringpuller PC's are for work [07:47]
DreadKnight been playing on my linux box [07:48]
thestringpuller game consoles are for games [07:48]
DreadKnight got ps3 and I don't even touch it for a long time now [07:48]
kuzetsa DreadKnight: yeah, mine is collecting dust too [07:48]
thestringpuller lol [07:49]
DreadKnight a second hand ps3 is probably 100 bucks now, at least around here [07:49]
DreadKnight probably with even a few original games as well [07:50]
DreadKnight not even worth selling my console [07:50]
DreadKnight ok seriously, how do I list gpg key id? xD [07:51]
DreadKnight nvm, finally [07:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24586 @ 0.00079775 = 19.6135 BTC [-] {2} [07:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5540 @ 0.00079672 = 4.4138 BTC [-] [07:54]
benkay gpg -K [07:54]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00079853 = 8.9435 BTC [+] [07:55]
DreadKnight I still don't get what I need [07:55]
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thestringpuller ;;ident DreadKnight [07:55]
gribble Nick 'DreadKnight', with hostmask 'DreadKnight!~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight', is identified as user 'DreadKnight', with GPG key id F6A23D326FDF1035, key fingerprint 2011A2ADC029482B2C2A1E9EF6A23D326FDF1035, and bitcoin address None [07:55]
thestringpuller isn't that your key? [07:56]
DreadKnight alt tabbed back to website and it proceeded, so dunno wtf [07:56]
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benkay ;;ticker [07:58]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 595.44, Best ask: 598.85, Bid-ask spread: 3.41000, Last trade: 596.43, 24 hour volume: 3771.32192653, 24 hour low: 590.0, 24 hour high: 602.83, 24 hour vwap: 595.20749223 [07:58]
benkay why is it crashing? [07:58]
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thestringpuller HAHAHAHA [08:02]
thestringpuller "crashing" [08:02]
DreadKnight dropped a few dollars [08:03]
DreadKnight in a few days or so [08:03]
DreadKnight seems totally normal [08:03]
DreadKnight ;;google search APR [08:11]
gribble APR Executive Search, Inc. - Home Page: ; APR Executive Search, Inc. - Jobs: ; APR Executive Search, Inc. - About Us: [08:11]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.16966666 = 1.018 BTC [-] {2} [08:19]
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DreadKnight great, just got banned in #bitcoin for sharing a link : [08:24]
benkay what link? [08:24]
DreadKnight found a really nice website related to bitcoins, it's about investing or making btc loans, really cool and useful [08:25]
assbot Peer to Peer Bitcoin Lending - BTCJam [08:25]
DreadKnight there goes my excitement for sharing an interesting website [08:25]
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* assbot gives voice to Namworld [08:27]
cazalla interesting that by banning yoy, you won't learn why it's not an interesting website [08:27]
Namworld [18:23] <+mircea_popescu> people should be targeted in a dismissive manner. builds character. [08:28]
benkay DreadKnight: well, you're doing a referral thing [08:28]
benkay and it's a notorious scam [08:28]
DreadKnight :D [08:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00079654 = 1.2745 BTC [-] [08:29]
Namworld That, and it's always nice to know what people think. I rarely use any negative language toward anyone, but that's just me. But I'd be the last one to say people shouldn't say this or that to anyone. [08:30]
DreadKnight benkay, the website itself doesn't seem to be a scam, but yeah, there are scammers on it for sure [08:31]
DreadKnight btc channel is kinda dead anyway [08:31]
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DreadKnight btcjam basically has the same amount of credibility as any crowd funding website in existence [08:38]
DreadKnight because it's about the people using the website [08:39]
Namworld What's wrong with windows? I hardly ever get any issue whatsoever. If it gave me any problem, I'd switch. Runs all I need, plus runs games easily. Not like anything critical is going on on that machine. [08:41]
DreadKnight Namworld, people constantly complaining about viruses but not switching, that is the problem [08:44]
DreadKnight so it's more of a user problem [08:44]
DreadKnight n [08:44]
benkay DreadKnight: if your platform pushes scams, you're a scammer. [08:45]
benkay see: glbse [08:45]
DreadKnight benkay, there are scammers and scams on every single platform [08:46]
DreadKnight good and evil are two sides of the same coin, you can't have just one [08:46]
Namworld If everyone was using Linux, bugs would show up regularly. Although perhaps they'd be fixed more quickly, Linux being open source. [08:46]
DreadKnight Namworld, things would be better, more devs and patches, more testing; on windows you can't really patch, just complain [08:47]
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Namworld Well slightly better. [08:48]
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DreadKnight lol [08:50]
phish how can i register for wot? [08:51]
DreadKnight gpg key [08:51]
phish instructions? [08:51]
punkman [08:51]
assbot wot_and_reputation [bitcoin assets wiki] [08:51]
phish ty [08:51]
DreadKnight [08:52]
assbot GPG authentication - bitcoin-otc wiki [08:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 197 @ 0.003 = 0.591 BTC [+] {2} [08:52]
punkman megalogs! you guys been busy [08:53]
punkman neighbor is blasting liturgical music [08:54]
DreadKnight fun. [08:54]
punkman I used to hate it but I guess there's worse thing to be woken up by [08:54]
DreadKnight I got woken by turkish music and manele yesterday, those make liturgical music sound like masterpieces in comparison [08:55]
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benkay benkay, there are scammers and scams on every single platform // show me a single scam on MPEx. [09:25]
benkay this bit lending thing actively goes out of its way to promote itself as a safe place to do lending. it goes above and beyond the call of duty to enable scammers. [09:25]
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DreadKnight benkay, was expecting you would say that; MPEx is exception [09:27]
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DreadKnight there are risks in lending, it's a gamble; just like stocks, so that's the whole point [09:29]
DreadKnight I bought a hdd from an online store, a romanian ebay clone once and I got scammed as it was old and had bad sectors, was it the website's fault? my fault more likely, but there was a reputation system so I should had been more careful, also the used got banned quickly [09:31]
DreadKnight (I bought the hdd from a 3rd party through the website, from the website owners) [09:32]
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benkay "every" "exception" // get your shit together [09:38]
benkay do you really not understand why that link with a referral bit would get you banned in #bitcoin? [09:38]
benkay ;;gettrust DreadKnight [09:38]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask DreadKnight!~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight. Trust relationship from user benkay to user DreadKnight: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: Sun Apr 7 16:22:29 2013 [09:38]
benkay you don't *look* like you're new around here. [09:38]
DreadKnight benkay, they say "NO ADS" in topic, noticed too late; can easily be considered an ad [09:39]
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DreadKnight benkay, when I said online platforms I meant websites with lots of users that interact with the website; MPEx is not like facebook / fiverr / bitcointalk forum [09:41]
DreadKnight allows for very limited interaction [09:41]
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DreadKnight plus MPEx has some fees to get into :) which not everybody has around to begin with [09:43]
benkay yeah, these are generally considered "capital barriers", and improve market quality markedly. [09:44]
DreadKnight and dealing with serious resellers only instead of average joe is really awesome [09:44]
benkay you don't borrow 50 grand from some rando online. you go to an actual bank. [09:44]
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DreadKnight benkay, are you a stock holder on MPEx? [10:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13736 @ 0.00080355 = 11.0376 BTC [-] [10:06]
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benkay i've made the odd trade yeah [10:10]
DreadKnight recall it from chat log, still not very familiar with the system [10:13]
benkay tread carefully [10:15]
benkay [10:16]
assbot An Interview With Argentina’s Most Reputable Madame | [10:16]
DreadKnight I'm more into getting a listing though and learning the related stuff [10:16]
DreadKnight argh, available for 2900$, right... [10:18]
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benkay what's your timeframe on this listing, DreadKnight ? [10:41]
DreadKnight benkay, need to spend a few more days learning about socks / dividends / shares / listing so I can talk the talk properly and write some documentation as well (which is long time due) [10:42]
benkay shooting for the end of next week then? [10:43]
DreadKnight exactly [10:43]
benkay glhf [10:44]
DreadKnight :) [10:45]
DreadKnight yeah, fun [10:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 800 @ 0.00080461 = 0.6437 BTC [+] [10:51]
benkay Ran 67 tests containing 157 assertions. [10:52]
benkay 0 failures, 0 errors. [10:52]
benkay sweet [10:52]
benkay ./ [10:52]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 149 @ 0.01170001 = 1.7433 BTC [+] [10:58]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 271 @ 0.003 = 0.813 BTC [+] [11:01]
benkay we have a kind of people that we call 'niggers'. they aren't black. their uniform is sports clothes and a baseball cap. they introduce themselves by asking "hey friend, got the time?" (seriously, it's almost always like that). if you stop to answer and take your phone out, you've lost. most of the time, you can just say a single "no", or ignore them, and continue walking. this has worked really well for me lately. [11:02]
benkay the thing about it is that most of them don't want to start a conflict, they just look for weak people [11:02]
benkay // ahaha the good ol' street hustle [11:02]
benkay my favorite in NYC was the obviously-too-old-to-be-in-hs-member-of-the-basketball-team "raising money for the team trip to...uh...DC" by selling large candy bars for 20 bucks [11:03]
benkay let the man have your hand for a handshake, you've "lost" [11:04]
benkay i always got out of it by smiling wryly, wiggling my eyebrows and complimenting them on their hustle [11:04]
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benkay later i learned to counter with "good hustle, next sucker" [11:05]
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DreadKnight consider them as teachers :D [11:07]
benkay threats basically [11:08]
dub "fuck off" works for me [11:10]
dub while reaching behind you like you have weapon [11:10]
DreadKnight and pull out a hamster [11:11]
DreadKnight ;;gettrust benkay [11:14]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask benkay!~user@unaffiliated/benkay. Trust relationship from user DreadKnight to user benkay: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: Sun Mar 10 13:57:45 2013 [11:14]
DreadKnight benkay, how much you pay for your hosting? [11:17]
DreadKnight Bandwidth Limit Exceeded [11:17]
benkay that site's actually offline. [11:19]
benkay good try, though. [11:19]
DreadKnight heh, time to get some sleep; laters [11:21]
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mircea_popescu DreadKnight: [11:46]
mircea_popescu mircea_popescu, did you went to college yourself? it's a bit of a trend now apparently for people in IT set on becoming rich << [11:46]
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mircea_popescu DreadKnight: great, just got banned in #bitcoin for sharing a link : << because it's neither cool nor useful. [11:52]
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mircea_popescu ono benkay's bandnarrows run out! [11:57]
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* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Wed Mar 5 21:58:12 2014 [20:24]
-assbot- Welcome to #bitcoin-assets. To get voice (ie, to be able to speak), first identify with gribble and then send "!up" to assbot in a private message. If you do not have a WoT account, try politely asking one of the voiced people for a temporary pass. [20:24]
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mircea_popescu good morning chatty bunch [20:24]
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kakobrekla heroin od is also uncivilized ? [20:30]
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* asciilifeform wonders if any american state has tried bumping off convicts with cocaine [20:31]
ThickAsThieves <+bitcoinpete> ;;later tell ThickAsThieves i went to school with the carbon copy of the singer in the strange negotations video. if my buddy plays his cards right, that'll be him in 5-10 years /// David Bazan is probably a top 3 artist for me [20:31]
ThickAsThieves ;;later tell mike_c audio is done, just printing finals now [20:32]
gribble The operation succeeded. [20:32]
BingoBoingo heroin od is also uncivilized ? << Well, there's the part in there where asphyxiation tends to be the cause of death. Really an aesthetic problem. [20:33]
bitcoinpete ThickAsThieves: neat. i'll pass it along :D [20:34]
HeySteve hmm, how do they put animals to sleep? that mix seems to work well and is presumably humane [20:34]
HeySteve when the vet injected my poor old cat, she went quickly and quietly [20:35]
BingoBoingo hmm, how do they put animals to sleep? that mix seems to work well and is presumably humane << Depends on the animal and its size. [20:35]
asciilifeform the one common anthropological thread i see here is that most governments insist on some 'national' symbolic meaning in their chosen means of execution. e.g., the french guillotine across all five 'republics' [20:35]
asciilifeform when usa was a techno-power, electric chair was king [20:36]
asciilifeform banana republics, soviet world - shooting [20:36]
HeySteve asciilifeform, did the Russians have firing squad? [20:36]
HeySteve ah right [20:36]
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asciilifeform HeySteve: traditional civilian execution in russia involves a single bullet (firing squad is seen as 'military', not befitting a common criminal) [20:37]
HeySteve ok. I know they shoot people in China, not sure billing the families for the bullet is an urban legend [20:38]
asciilifeform china follows the russian tradition [20:38]
HeySteve "Stoning remains a legal form of judicial punishment in Iraq, Mauritania, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Yemen, Northern Nigeria, Aceh in Indonesia, Brunei, and Pakistan;" [20:39]
HeySteve that's a bit rough by comparison to other methods [20:39]
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asciilifeform so from this it follows that the current ceremony (injection with not-quite-poisons in an elaborate pseudo-medical setting) also symbolizes something about modern usa, re: national character. [20:39]
chetty bring back hemlock [20:40]
HeySteve death by obamacare [20:40]
asciilifeform there are other interestingly perverse aspects of how prisoners are kept in usa prior to execution [20:42]
asciilifeform for instance, a squad of jailers watches over the condemned for weeks, months, years - to ensure that he doesn't suicide and cheat the executioner - and the court - of their spectacle [20:42]
mircea_popescu omfg i woke up with an article! and you people already wrote another here! I WILL NEVER CATCH UP NAO [20:42]
asciilifeform lol [20:42]
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mircea_popescu banana republics, soviet world - shooting << that's just nazi wannabe-ism. [20:43]
mircea_popescu ok. I know they shoot people in China << notrly, they have a van arrangement. [20:43]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: what aspect of 20th c.-style government isn't. [20:44]
asciilifeform china << they're experimenting with poison, from purely pragmatic considerations (can sell organs) [20:44]
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kakobrekla !up nagzter [20:47]
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kakobrekla !up Basquiat_ [20:47]
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mircea_popescu kakobrekla i just tried to put stuff in bash and it said 37 is not correct captcha [20:48]
mircea_popescu what am i doing wrong. [20:48]
mircea_popescu i tried 35 too just to be sure. [20:48]
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kakobrekla math expired. [20:49]
nagzter kakobrekla: thanks! [20:52]
mircea_popescu !s nagzter [20:53]
assbot 7 results for 'nagzter' : [20:53]
nagzter ? [20:53]
mircea_popescu trying to recall who you were. [20:53]
nagzter I'm not very chatty [20:53]
nagzter also sometimes being a girl in IRC... [20:54]
nagzter means I skip around [20:54]
mircea_popescu what, you're a girl too ? [20:54]
nagzter YES! [20:54]
mircea_popescu welcome lol. [20:54]
nagzter I always assumed the "nag" part gave it away [20:54]
mircea_popescu you could just be jewish. [20:54]
nagzter well you know how it goes... sometimes a channel swerves to "lol boobs" [20:54]
nagzter funny I am heritage wise, my grandfather was 100% Russian Jew [20:54]
chetty the womins is taking over, hurrah [20:55]
mircea_popescu nagzter that's well taken care of here. [20:55]
nagzter chetty: Yay! [20:55]
mircea_popescu chetty yeah check that out, the only asshole channel in bitcoin is where all the women are. clearly antontwerpulous is right, everyone else needs to put more trigger warnings and be careful what they say. [20:55]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 263 @ 0.0029 = 0.7627 BTC [-] {2} [20:57]
chetty absolutely, no misogynists here pls :) [20:57]
nagzter THIS [20:57]
nagzter do all the channels have a !s command? [20:57]
mircea_popescu nagzter nah. [20:58]
nagzter that's slick [20:58]
chetty the chan of many talents [20:59]
nagzter Cool. [20:59]
nagzter So I'm not a coder or a miner. [21:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20200 @ 0.00079627 = 16.0847 BTC [-] {2} [21:00]
nagzter I kind of collect a bunch of coins and do a little trading [21:00]
nagzter I'm an artist and designer and my husband made a coin [21:00]
nagzter Now you know what most channels I chat in know ;) [21:00]
mircea_popescu cool. [21:02]
mircea_popescu nagzter << this is where the boobs come from. [21:02]
assbot I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [21:02]
HeySteve oh nagzter, I met you in Ancient Beast channel [21:03]
mircea_popescu what coin did your husband make ? [21:03]
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nagzter Yes! [21:03]
nagzter I haven't played yet (I do loved turn based games!) [21:03]
nagzter mircea_popescu: RobotSexNickels! [21:04]
nagzter Totally SFW [21:04]
nagzter ;) [21:04]
mircea_popescu uh [21:04]
mircea_popescu is this like a joke coin ? [21:04]
nagzter it's new! [21:04]
mircea_popescu lmao [21:04]
nagzter It's a little silly, but we're on a couple of exchanges [21:04]
nagzter he's working on a "real" coin and needed the practice [21:05]
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nagzter the graphics are slick if I do say so myself! [21:05]
mircea_popescu the official joke coin of b-a is, ofcourse, altcoin. [21:05]
nagzter haha [21:05]
BingoBoingo %t [21:05]
atcbot [X-BT] Bid: 210 Ask: 270 Last Price: 210 24h-Vol: 12k High: 242 Low: 210 VWAP: 210 [21:05]
BingoBoingo %ob [21:06]
atcbot 30k@278 31k@275 955@270 | 45k@210 50k@203 100k@202 [21:06]
nagzter 11:02 mircea_popescu: nagzter << this is where the boobs come from. [21:06]
assbot I’ll pay for your tits pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [21:06]
BingoBoingo %d [21:06]
atcbot [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 575848.03 in 900 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -16.20 [21:06]
nagzter lol [21:06]
* DreadKnight waves [21:06]
nagzter hey [21:06]
mircea_popescu !up the20year1 [21:06]
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the20year1 Joys [21:06]
the20year1 but this whole gpg thing is still frusterating me [21:07]
mircea_popescu from what i gather, your problem was that you were using an old, cached and therefore expred otp ? [21:07]
the20year1 Well, it alongwith bitcointalk [21:07]
mircea_popescu use curl. it doesn't cache stupidly. [21:07]
DreadKnight nagzter, would be funny if the joke coin would take off and not the "real" one, twitter scenario [21:07]
the20year1 Well, that was the original problem, nanotube helped me get past that , the problem now lies with /query (pm) to assbot to self-up [21:07]
nagzter DreadKnight: it could happen I suppose [21:07]
nagzter People do seem to like the silly name [21:07]
mircea_popescu uh [21:08]
nagzter (and the slick graphics ahem) [21:08]
mircea_popescu nagzter what, you made them ? [21:08]
nagzter That's what I do! [21:08]
DreadKnight in dogecoin channel people got hyped about "bacoin" recently and wanted to make it only to find out someone tried that almost an year ago xD [21:08]
mircea_popescu the20year1 that's so bizarre tho, you must be doing something out there. it literally is just pm assbot. [21:08]
nagzter I did custom icons for the wallets and designed the site [21:08]
mircea_popescu can you get it to respond to any other command in pm ? [21:08]
nagzter such a great name, bacoin [21:08]
DreadKnight seems that the original guy who tried failed [21:09]
the20year1 what assbot commands are there? [21:09]
the20year1 i can do it with gribble justfine [21:09]
nagzter mircea_popescu [21:09]
assbot Robot Sex Nickels [21:09]
nagzter assbot: is smart! [21:09]
mircea_popescu the20year1 try !s hey [21:10]
DreadKnight nagzter, definitely go for it with your husband for the other coin if you haven't picked a name xD [21:10]
nagzter lol [21:10]
mircea_popescu Amazing Assbot [21:10]
the20year1 assbot: 1900 results for 'hey' : [21:10]
assbot 1900 results for 'hey' - #bitcoin-assets search [21:10]
the20year1 that's what I returned from assbot [21:10]
mircea_popescu cool so then do !up once you're id'd with gribble [21:10]
DreadKnight it's fun how assb0t sometimes flames people [21:10]
HeySteve the20year1, had the same problem yesterday [21:11]
the20year1 and that's where I was getting that error (the you must be voiced to do this command) or whatever [21:11]
mircea_popescu nagzter not bad lookin'. [21:11]
nagzter I haven't seen that yet! [21:11]
nagzter thanks mircea_popescu [21:11]
DreadKnight funny* [21:11]
mircea_popescu the20year1 odd. well mebbe kakobrekla finds something. [21:11]
nagzter The robot is a blender model, but the rest is mine [21:11]
HeySteve hey DreadKnight. I had a thought about the game, would giving the creatures and "summoner" a single manapool work? [21:11]
the20year1 HeySteve: how did you fix it? [21:12]
HeySteve the20year1 I didn't, it just went away today. yesterday I could auth with alt gribble. didn't try restarting browser to wipe any saved data tho [21:13]
the20year1 alright, i guess i'll try it today [21:13]
the20year1 because I tried it via pigin IRC and IRCCloud and neither worked [21:13]
the20year1 now my next question is once you !up yourself, is it only a 30m voice? [21:13]
DreadKnight HeySteve, well, no mana as there is no magic; there's plasma to protect Dark Priest (summoner) and also make units (so more / better units = less protection, it's a tradeoff); each unit has it's own energy stat, abilities require energy, there's also meditation to replenish that, but if an unit gets damaged in a round above a treshold (more than endurance stat), then the unit gets no regen it's next turn (regrowth for health and m [21:15]
DreadKnight editation for energy) [21:15]
kakobrekla bash flushed [21:15]
the20year1 what game is this? [21:15]
nagzter Ancient Beast! [21:15]
DreadKnight :D [21:16]
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kakobrekla now my next question is once you !up yourself, is it only a 30m voice? < when you do it over pm, no, given you are authed. [21:16]
kakobrekla nagzter get into the wot? [21:16]
DreadKnight didn't seemed time limited to me hmm [21:17]
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fluffypony ;;gettrust assbot DreadKnight [21:18]
gribble Currently authenticated from hostmask DreadKnight!~DreadKnig@unaffiliated/dreadknight. Trust relationship from user assbot to user DreadKnight: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. Graph: | WoT data: | Rated since: Sun Apr 7 16:22:29 2013 [21:18]
fluffypony you're in assbot's L2 trust, DreadKnight [21:18]
fluffypony so there's no time limit for you [21:18]
DreadKnight HeySteve, hopefully that makes sense to you; will show you wip document design next week, hopefully you'll have more questions about things not clear enough [21:18]
HeySteve DreadKnight, wasn't aware of that tradeoff, makes sense. that's the kind of mechanic I was suggesting, like you could use a lot of powerful unit abilities or summon a lot of creatures, but not both as a strategy [21:19]
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HeySteve yeah I didn't get that from testing it [21:19]
chetty V 44. The alpha person at a gathering of "high status" [21:19]
chetty persons is often, detectably, the waiter.(Taleb) [21:19]
mircea_popescu the20year1 tried via webirc ? [21:19]
mircea_popescu and no, it's permanent. [21:19]
DreadKnight HeySteve, there's setting for limiting number of units; they're pretty big compared to HoMM games anyway; combat field gets more crowded easier, especially in 2vs2 [21:20]
mircea_popescu chetty oh that guy... he's so dreamy... [21:20]
DreadKnight HeySteve, keep in mind higher level units cost way more, there's a cost formula [21:20]
the20year1 webirc will be the next one i try [21:20]
kakobrekla dont change the car when it only needs gas. [21:21]
DreadKnight HeySteve, so basically you have the whole moba type of game team under your own management instead of having to rely on random idiots and hope they're doing the right thing; [21:25]
DreadKnight HeySteve, squishy units that either do a lot of damage or are meant for support and really tanky units that are meant to protect others and take damage [21:25]
asciilifeform 'For social mobility to work, it needs to be a two-way highway, with a large number of pre-rich and an almost as large one of post-rich.' -- from the taleb link [21:28]
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mircea_popescu nah, why not make everyone rich [21:28]
asciilifeform lol [21:28]
DreadKnight some people would get poor in no time anyway, as they originally were [21:29]
DreadKnight well, not "some", but most [21:30]
HeySteve rich people becoming poor? socialism! [21:31]
DreadKnight "rich" seems to be more of a state of mind; kinda like you're saying on your blog "pay up or this could wither and die" on your blog mircea_popescu, even though that's not the case, but I like the lesson you're teaching [21:31]
asciilifeform 'Mathematicians think in symbols, physicists in objects, philosophers in concepts, geometers in images, jurists in constructs, logicians in operators, writers in impressions, and idiots in words.' [21:31]
mircea_popescu DreadKnight i was being sarcastique [21:32]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, yeah, got that :) [21:32]
mircea_popescu and physicists don't think in "objects", what an ignorant thing to say [21:33]
mircea_popescu physicists think in wavefunctions. [21:33]
DreadKnight haha [21:33]
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DreadKnight energy, intensity, frequency, amplitude [21:34]
* asciilifeform physicists think in wavefunctions << summons zombie of hugh everett [21:34]
mircea_popescu no but srsly, "objects" ? what is this, naive physicalism cca 1880 ? [21:34]
DreadKnight most physicists actually don't believe in objects and matter, it's all energy or simply nothing [21:34]
mircea_popescu ^ [21:34]
DreadKnight so matter is like frozen energy [21:35]
asciilifeform DreadKnight, mircea_popescu: the physics that yields interesting machinery, vs. 20th.c navel gazing, was done by folks who 'thought in objects' more often than not. [21:35]
mircea_popescu and i'll venture to say that pretty much all the good philosophers similarly don't think in "concepts", whatever that is, but in a sort of equivalent of the wavefununction, except it has two major irreducible statements. one's systematic the other historical. [21:36]
mircea_popescu but any philosopher worth his salt will interact not with a "concept" but with either the graph of that concept's history in the mind of man, [21:36]
mircea_popescu or else with the graph of that concept and its relations. [21:36]
DreadKnight otherwise he'll have a hard time explaining things to people [21:37]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i disagree. see the short cathode tv. [21:37]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: minkowski, weyl. 'objects', pre-20th c. [21:37]
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mircea_popescu the SHORT cathode. you know, the one the japs built. [21:38]
asciilifeform yes, with sr [21:38]
mircea_popescu i suspek you're just trying an underhanded approach to introduce the supremacy of engineers over theoretical physicitsts :D [21:39]
mircea_popescu so let's take the baby home : real programmers think in terms of functions and macros, [21:39]
mircea_popescu not in terms of variables and values. [21:39]
* asciilifeform sees 20th c. physicists as largely imposters, who 'the good parts - not original, the original parts - not good' [21:40]
mircea_popescu (i mean lisp-functions, not int blabla ()-functions) [21:40]
DreadKnight Newton's falling apple was likely just a nice story to make people visualize things :P [21:40]
* asciilifeform not a cultist of the engineer, but of folks like j.c. maxwell, who knew exactly how to build a radio - and didn't. [21:40]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you know these impostors knew exactly how to build a cern and did. [21:40]
asciilifeform e.g, herr einstein: a junkyard dog, who took credit for the genuinely interesting late 19th. c. work [21:41]
asciilifeform cern - navel gazing [21:41]
mircea_popescu hm. [21:41]
mircea_popescu you dispute it's an actual piece of machinery ? [21:41]
asciilifeform it's a machine, sure [21:41]
mircea_popescu so then ? you dispute it actually works as described ? [21:42]
asciilifeform but makes 'manned space' look useful [21:42]
mircea_popescu use is not really a consideration here. [21:42]
mircea_popescu bitcoin is, in this exact sense, useless. [21:42]
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asciilifeform cern, other 'strong force' shenanigans are a good example of 'chinese' scholastiwank. the people involved - entirely uninterested in systematization of knowledge, much less practical use [21:43]
asciilifeform stamp collectors. [21:43]
mircea_popescu nobody's arguing there's a large number of would-be followers in any race, who to the acute observer look more like they're going through the motions [21:43]
mircea_popescu rather than actually doing the winning. [21:43]
asciilifeform good litmus test - anyone involved with 'strings' [21:43]
DreadKnight bitcoin is theoretically an energy allowing to polymorph sheeps into cars and so on, to facilitate exchanges and needs [21:43]
mircea_popescu obviously a large number of people who like to identify as physicists are in the situation of people who like to identify as rockstars. [21:44]
asciilifeform the string folks explicitly renounced testability of hypothesis! if that isn't an open declaration of charlatanry, what is ? [21:44]
mircea_popescu how is this related ? [21:44]
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asciilifeform notice how every piece of actual 'practical' machinery we have that makes use of 'modern' physics, the physics in question is 1940s or prior ? [21:45]
mircea_popescu you ever took a rmi ? [21:45]
asciilifeform this is not, as the particle smashers tell us, an accident. [21:45]
mircea_popescu mri* [21:45]
asciilifeform nmr -> 1930s [21:45]
mircea_popescu eh get out. [21:46]
asciilifeform plus 1980s computer. [21:46]
asciilifeform seriously [21:46]
asciilifeform isodor rabi. [21:46]
mircea_popescu well if you go at it that way then everything's ancient greek atomism. [21:46]
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mircea_popescu for that matter, 1940s is 20th century anyway, and sure, engineers take 50 years or so to apply fundamental physics [21:47]
asciilifeform nope. the latter - navel gazing. no testability given their tech. [21:47]
mircea_popescu nevertheless, 1940 is not pre-qm. [21:47]
DreadKnight theoretical physics might seem to have no application atm, but that's the whole point, debating and eventually (hopefully) allowing to grasp more complex concepts and allow for further technological improvements, like being able to go through worm holes and such [21:47]
midnightmagic the physics is not 1940s or prior. i have a friend whose PhD was literally pushing the boundaries of particle physics using results obtained from LHC [21:47]
mircea_popescu midnightmagic im kinda saving (radio)astronomy here in a compartment, for later. [21:48]
midnightmagic the physics is new, even if it's a negative result [21:48]
asciilifeform DreadKnight, midnightmagic: not insisting that the particle hijinx have no possible applications, in a far future. just that these applications will require a resurrection of the caliber of men we had 1800-1900. [21:48]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform so you mean einstein ? [21:48]
midnightmagic "no new more fundamental particles as of X TeV in the LHC" [21:48]
mircea_popescu or who exactly, fermi ? pauli ? the germanz ? [21:48]
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DreadKnight asciilifeform, things are getting more and more complex now, it takes more work and time [21:49]
DreadKnight einstein might have been fake, his wife might have been the smart one [21:49]
asciilifeform faraday, maxwell, lorentz, etc [21:49]
mircea_popescu you're such an old west fetishist :D [21:49]
DreadKnight asciilifeform, just like bitcoin mining is increasing in difficulty [21:49]
midnightmagic IMO, in a brand-new field, those singular talents can exist. Once the primary breakthroughs are finished, it requires teams and long-term hard work to push it forward. IMHO anyway. me != physicist. [21:49]
asciilifeform DreadKnight: things are getting more and more complex now, it takes more work and time << the motto of the 20th c. intellectual impostor class, in a nutshell. [21:49]
DreadKnight midnightmagic, exactly [21:50]
asciilifeform 'complexity is irreducible now, the only possible kind of man is now the stamp collector' [21:50]
asciilifeform 'encyclopaedists can no longer exist' [21:50]
mircea_popescu i'm one, what. [21:50]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: so you know it's a lie. [21:50]
midnightmagic not to say I disagree with anything you guys are saying fundamentally of course [21:50]
DreadKnight asciilifeform, steven hawkings might be smart, but he's stuck in a wheel chair, so not much for him to do besides brainstorm :P [21:50]
asciilifeform DreadKnight: his intellectual milieu is more crippling than his paralysis [21:51]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform what i don't know is that ~everyone~ is pushing it. [21:51]
mircea_popescu you don't judge physics by what highschool teachers say about it. [21:51]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: not everyone. just the grant-eaters. [21:51]
mircea_popescu who cares about them ? [21:51]
mircea_popescu i thot we were discussing teh science not teh politics. [21:51]
asciilifeform 100 yrs from now - no one. but they're the ones who get to build machines. [21:51]
mircea_popescu wait, your theory is that the 5-6bn spent to build the lhc could have been better employed building what alternative item ? [21:52]
asciilifeform false dichotomy. maxwell needed no $b hardware. [21:52]
mircea_popescu so then who cares they get to build machines lol. [21:52]
mircea_popescu let em. [21:53]
DreadKnight things are getting exponentially harder, it's like the needle in the haystack [21:53]
mircea_popescu who knows, maybe a golden chicken falls out of it. [21:53]
asciilifeform the harm of the mega-machines is not the wasted money, but that nearly every student of physics now believes that the field is inescapably 'about' the machines [21:53]
asciilifeform see mircea_popescu's skyscraper example. [21:53]
DreadKnight compare making a wagon with space rockets. NASA is dealing with a lot of math, people and money [21:54]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform listen, what 99% of a class believes about the field is uninteresting by the definition of the 99%. [21:54]
mircea_popescu 99% of students of physics in 1905 believed it's a resolved problem, too. [21:54]
mircea_popescu DreadKnight nasa just got cut off the pipe, actually. [21:55]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, I'm glad actually, a NPO like mars one does more interesting stuff [21:55]
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* asciilifeform was acquainted with one such '1%' - al schwartz. who has an eminently testable hypothesis re: parity violation, and spent a decade (& counting) trying to score 2 weeks on an eotvos rotor balance. while the charlatans build their $b colliders. [21:57]
* asciilifeform recently tried to check on herr schwartz - he isn't answering. possibly he went 'full perelman' mode. [21:58]
DreadKnight a lot of inventions are promoted thanks to their monetization potential, so if there's demand and it sells, it's a good invention [21:58]
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DreadKnight it's all business and some luck; a lot of cool stuff is kept hidden just because it's not for the average joe [21:59]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform ah i recall that. [22:00]
DreadKnight even the PC was close to being dismissed as crap because of lack of vision from the business man taking a look at it [22:00]
asciilifeform herr adelberger ( << nomination for Flondor List (tm) [22:01]
mircea_popescu how much do two weeks on such a rotor even cost ? [22:02]
asciilifeform (short version: adelberger tested all variants of crud, including left- and right-handed machine screws (!) and gleefully pronounced - no parity violation. refused under any pretext to test schwartz and petitjean's 'chiralane' molecule.) [22:03]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: in 2010 i concocted a variant of the test that could be carried out for approx. 50k USD, from scratch. schwartz answered that, in his estimation, the test would work to spec, but results would not be accepted by the field unless carried out on one of the two existing eotvos balances. one - adelberger's, one - chicom. [22:05]
asciilifeform adelberger balked. chicoms agreed! [22:05]
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mircea_popescu so what happened ? [22:05]
asciilifeform a few months later, they stopped answering phone. the postdocs who handled the run - desaparecido. [22:05]
mircea_popescu this sounds like a great mystery. [22:05]
asciilifeform al's hypothesis - the matter entered the jurisdiction of PLA. [22:05]
mircea_popescu Pacific Locomotive Association ? [22:06]
asciilifeform people's liberation army. [22:06]
mircea_popescu Phone Losers of America ? playboy oh. [22:06]
asciilifeform loll [22:06]
mircea_popescu was this in ireland ? [22:06]
asciilifeform china [22:06]
asciilifeform 中国人民解放军 [22:07]
decimation if we don't have a maxwell today, where are our faradays and hertzs and lorentzs and heavisides? [22:07]
penguirker New blog post: [22:07]
mircea_popescu sounds reasonable. any aspiring writers wanna make this into an optionable script ? :D [22:07]
mircea_popescu decimation you know they're not our. [22:08]
mircea_popescu and they're probably being reasonable men and women, doing finance and real estate. [22:08]
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asciilifeform obligatory: [22:09]
asciilifeform !s greenspun [22:09]
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decimation I guess I'm using "our" for "our time", in as much as anyone can 'own' an epoch [22:09]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa if you're still looking btw, there's [22:09]
DreadKnight all them poor women, not having clothes xD [22:11]
mircea_popescu builds character. [22:12]
asciilifeform today we learned that mircea_popescu still owns an electron-smashing tv set... [22:12]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i was crashing. [22:12]
asciilifeform aha [22:12]
mircea_popescu yest took girl to be nude among hundreds of people for the first time in her life, [22:12]
mircea_popescu and also canings. [22:12]
decimation I miss my trinitron with its shadow-bars; the LCDs that replaced it just don't have the same dynamic range [22:15]
mircea_popescu decimation in fairness, cathode was a well mature tech. lcd is adolescent. [22:16]
DreadKnight vinyl records vs digital format all over again [22:16]
mircea_popescu it'll prolly be pretty damned good by 2040 [22:16]
decimation also I wonder when someone decided that displays cannot come in 4:3 aspect ratio anymore [22:16]
* asciilifeform has been using this: as a tv for some years. works great. [22:16]
assbot tv - Imgur [22:16]
decimation things are getting better comrades [22:16]
mircea_popescu cause to make it look like the cinema screen [22:16]
DreadKnight decimation, did a lot of research on aspect ratios, seem a lot of older people really miss 4:3 [22:17]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform da fuck did you do, behead that guy from startrek ? [22:17]
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asciilifeform lol [22:17]
asciilifeform it's a 'dlp' gizmo [22:17]
asciilifeform cheap & angry. [22:17]
asciilifeform vga/dvi in, picture out. [22:18]
benkay cooked up a decent one last night: "shartup" [22:18]
decimation do you use a screen on the wall or painted white wall? [22:18]
asciilifeform decimation: rollup screen. [22:18]
asciilifeform 2 metre diagonal. [22:18]
mircea_popescu !s shartup [22:18]
assbot 0 results for 'shartup' : [22:18]
mircea_popescu hm i coulda sworn i saw it b4 [22:19]
decimation on an old-school tripod stand? [22:19]
benkay !s fartup [22:19]
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asciilifeform hangs from ceiling [22:19]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, which guy from star trek, the borg? xD [22:19]
benkay ;;ud shart [22:19]
gribble | shart. a small, unintended defecation that occurs when one relaxes the anal sphincter to fart (blend of "shit" and "fart"). I sharted at the party last night and [22:19]
DreadKnight shirt [22:19]
mircea_popescu chetty: II 5. France took Algeria, hoping for a country to eat cassoulet and instead France is now eating couscous. << this is what happens when small penis messes with big penis. [22:19]
mircea_popescu DreadKnight that engineer guy. [22:19]
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mircea_popescu benkay ud helpfully neglects to mention it's a gay problem. [22:20]
benkay heh [22:20]
mircea_popescu hetero scum don't gain the ability to relax their bunghole quite to the degree. [22:20]
benkay not even the reamed girls? [22:20]
mircea_popescu i was thinking of people, not women. [22:21]
benkay hue [22:21]
mircea_popescu ahhh epic. [22:21]
asciilifeform decimation: if you buy a gizmo like this, get the roll screen, walls aren't nearly as reflective. [22:21]
benkay most dick-havers aren't people to be fair [22:21]
mircea_popescu benkay i am a calophile. that's one who takes great enjoyment in callousness. [22:21]
mircea_popescu (actually it's one who enjoys words formally, but nevertheless) [22:22]
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decimation asciilifeform yeah I think that's the most economic way to get a big screen [22:22]
benkay calluses are gross. [22:22]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, oh, La Forge, the black guy with visor [22:22]
asciilifeform decimation: total cost of all the widgets ~= 1k usd, and that was ages ago [22:22]
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mircea_popescu DreadKnight i didn't notice his skin tone. [22:22]
mircea_popescu buncha racists in this chan. [22:22]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, haha, "afro american" or something; star trek maintained a bit of diversity to seem non racist [22:23]
DreadKnight forgot the term, native african? hmm [22:23]
mircea_popescu and even gave bridge bunnies actual roles. [22:23]
DreadKnight yes :3 [22:23]
DreadKnight haven't seen the star trek with female captain yet though [22:24]
mircea_popescu "Here Are My Official Comments on the" dude who the fuck is this guy lol. someone made counterfeit comments on his behalf ? [22:24]
mircea_popescu "I am an attorney and Certified Public Accountant with a Master's Degree in Accounting. " [22:24]
mircea_popescu derp. [22:24]
mircea_popescu READ MY BOOK: "REDEEMING CHRIST" I've decided to serialize and publish on this blog a book that I've been working on for some time [22:25]
mircea_popescu ThickAsThieves where do you find them! [22:25]
asciilifeform redeeming christ << like those aluminum cans one can redeem at recycler plant for five cents ? [22:25]
DreadKnight I was thinking about it as well xD [22:25]
benkay * asciilifeform wonders if any american state has tried bumping off convicts with cocaine // i appreciated this pun [22:26]
fluffypony that's the Sean King thing? I quite enjoyed his letter, though, I thought he put things in a way that was nicely digestible to the non-technical types [22:26]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform well, he's trying to be clever, in the manner of an accountant [22:26]
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mircea_popescu you see, the direct is "christ the redeemer", so wuldn't it be all edgy and creative to reverse it ? [22:26]
DreadKnight drugs are the easiest to get in prisons, most can OD there anytime at will [22:26]
mircea_popescu fluffypony the problem with me is that my reader is configured to quickly drop. which will probably warrant the neverending hatred of the asciilifeforms of the future on account of me having skipped who knows what valuable item of some valuable fellow on the grounds that that fellow wasn't either mentally organised enough for my taste or maybe not versed in teh variety speak or who knows. [22:27]
mircea_popescu i try to compensate by being a quite public asshole about it, tho. should work. [22:27]
fluffypony lol [22:27]
mircea_popescu but anyway : i can't get to the letter, because i can't read the "official oppinions" of accountants who wrote a book called redeeming christ. [22:28]
mircea_popescu it's just me. [22:28]
DreadKnight every time I hear that book title it really craps me up :D [22:28]
mircea_popescu you mean cracks ? [22:29]
DreadKnight cracks* damn [22:29]
mircea_popescu don't get the cocaine and the dumps all bumped up together now [22:29]
mircea_popescu benkay ^ for your consideration. [22:29]
DreadKnight I'm starting to not get mad about religious people anymore and actually get a laugh or two, finally [22:29]
mircea_popescu since no more gf ? [22:29]
benkay if your coke has lumps either someone on you has dumped or you yourself is trying to bump [22:31]
mircea_popescu << im starting to like tat's blogging. [22:31]
assbot Strange Negotiations [22:31]
mircea_popescu benkay that sounded like the sweet singer of michigan if she were emo and trying to fit in with the hip crowd. [22:32]
mircea_popescu ( in case anyone dun know j.a. moore) [22:32]
assbot Literara este grea pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. [22:32]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1852 @ 0.00285026 = 5.2787 BTC [-] {6} [22:35]
benkay in dogecoin channel people got hyped about "bacoin" recently and wanted to make it only to find out someone tried that almost an year ago xD [22:36]
benkay // bsas? bitcoin-assets? [22:36]
punkman bacon? [22:37]
benkay oh god [22:37]
mircea_popescu :D [22:37]
mircea_popescu !b 5 [22:37]
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benkay if these people inhabited a space i would commission nukes and glass them [22:38]
asciilifeform bsas? bovine serum albumens ? [22:38]
mircea_popescu personally, i blame stand-up "comedians" [22:38]
mircea_popescu they keep doing this thing. [22:38]
benkay comedy is dead in america. [22:38]
mircea_popescu that's how bacon got to be the cancerous forced meme it is. [22:38]
benkay well it is covered in activated carbon [22:39]
mircea_popescu (amusingly, maddox was harping about beef jerky before teh mainstream picked it up as bacon) [22:39]
DreadKnight benkay, are you a vegetarian? [22:41]
punkman jerky is so much better than bacon [22:41]
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punkman fluffypony: next time you come to eu, smuggle some bilton for me [22:42]
punkman *biltong [22:42]
benkay i suspek you're just trying an underhanded approach to introduce the supremacy of engineers over theoretical physicitsts :D // this needs introduction? [22:42]
benkay !s benkay steak [22:42]
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benkay DreadKnight: don't make me google for you too [22:42]
DreadKnight benkay, gotcha [22:42]
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mircea_popescu benkay course. [22:43]
fluffypony punkman: I can try, the sniffer dogs are pretty hardcore with that [22:43]
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punkman fluffypony: where? [22:43]
mircea_popescu you recall, i'm the gadfly. i said the boboo about coders too, like finance people, heresies pile one. [22:43]
asciilifeform re: dogs: anyone remember baldaev? [22:43]
HeySteve hmm biltong for bitcoin, could be the next silk road [22:43]
fluffypony punkman: at the airport on the way out [22:43]
asciilifeform !s baldaev [22:43]
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benkay well hey finance god tier eh? [22:44]
mircea_popescu fluffypony they don't let you take it OUT ?! [22:44]
asciilifeform turns out his profession was - police dog trainer & handler. [22:44]
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punkman mircea_popescu: yeah wat [22:44]
asciilifeform he wrote an interesting autobio (afaik, never translated) about his dog work [22:44]
HeySteve thx DreadKnight but that's working now [22:44]
asciilifeform turns out, he writes, one of the most reliable ways to get bitten by such an animal is to give it the impression of attempting to feed it [22:44]
DreadKnight HeySteve, noticed your comment late [22:44]
benkay mircea_popescu: i only know the modern scientists, whose sole job is to do worthless "science" on government-allocated capital. which is crimes all over on so many levels. [22:45]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: correct - you can't take "raw" meat out the country [22:45]
asciilifeform a police dog (at least, ones trained in the russian tradition) will attack if fed by a stranger. [22:45]
punkman fluffypony: can you mail it? [22:45]
fluffypony punkman: no, but there are some export-approved biltong shops [22:45]
fluffypony san giorgios and takis [22:45]
punkman heh [22:47]
fluffypony lol [22:47]
mircea_popescu benkay lettuce not confuse the fakers for the job they're faking. [22:48]
DreadKnight that reminds me of shops around saying they got natural ice-cream for sale. [22:48]
benkay all i know is fakery! [22:48]
mircea_popescu just because a buncha muricans pretend to be scientists shouldn't sour one on science, [22:48]
mircea_popescu just like their pretend poets shouldn't sour one on poetry. [22:48]
benkay point me to some science happening right now [22:48]
fluffypony punkman: I'll have to see how well I have to hermetically seal it to take it in my hand luggage, then I'll take a few kgs with me and just run the risk of it getting confiscated [22:48]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: a petrified forest is not a forest. [22:48]
mircea_popescu i don't have to. [22:48]
benkay not claiming it doesn't exist, just that i'm ignorant. [22:48]
mircea_popescu ah. well i dunno, i dun follow it much. [22:49]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you know, between the meta-nsa nd the petrified forest you got a very dissonant thing going. how about the petrified-nsa and the meta-forest ? [22:49]
* asciilifeform not convinced of the physical existence of meta-nsa. it's a gedanken-nsa. [22:49]
mircea_popescu benkay would you accept the fermat theorem as research ? [22:50]
punkman fluffypony, I've only tried imitations made in EU, I imagine the real thing will be even better [22:50]
mircea_popescu i mean, obviously valuable scientific research doesn't happen in the govt pen. this is hardly surprising. for that matter, europe has a lrge number of "incubators" for start-ups, even timisoara has one, london thinks it dominates this field [22:51]
kuzetsa punkman: pure beef? [22:51]
mircea_popescu yet the only bilion dollar eu start-up to date happened outside of all that. [22:51]
asciilifeform if 'meta-nsa' exists in the flesh, it's probably an assemblage of one grey-haired officer and his two dozen or so apprentices, embedded deep within the scar tissue of usg and surviving in spite of, rather than due to, the overall management. [22:51]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform so basically you're saying, "if meta-nsa exists, it's a mirror of b-a" [22:51]
asciilifeform more or less. [22:51]
mircea_popescu this alone... [22:51]
mircea_popescu is worth its weight in bitcoinz. [22:52]
asciilifeform lol [22:52]
punkman kuzetsa: well yeah, it's a cut of meat, not like processed jerky [22:52]
asciilifeform general mosquito must have his general mosquitospray. [22:52]
fluffypony punkman: yeah, you can buy the real spices from a bunch of places in the EU, and there are expats that know how to make biltong, but I think the local beef + conditions in the parts of the Western Cape that are home to speciality producers outweigh anything produced overseas [22:52]
asciilifeform !s general mosquito [22:52]
assbot 0 results for 'general mosquito' : [22:52]
asciilifeform ;;google general mosquito spray [22:52]
gribble Reading about the Liberian civil war - are they pulling my leg ...: ; Sam Bockarie - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Into the Heart of Darkness | American Renaissance: [22:52]
decimation I wonder if anyone from meta-nsa lurks here? [22:52]
mircea_popescu decimation behind 7 proxies ha-ha ? [22:53]
asciilifeform 'the man who was thursday' [22:53]
kuzetsa [15:09:42] <+mircea_popescu> kuzetsa if you're still looking btw, there's << the broken link is un-helpful: socket connection [22:53]
mircea_popescu foodz and his merry gang have been doing overtime translating and summarizing trilema in teh basements of romania's saas [22:54]
mircea_popescu (that country is so mercenary it even does spying as a service) [22:54]
kuzetsa unrelated [22:54]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa s/co/ws/ [22:54]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: uhm... so the link should be or what? [22:55]
asciilifeform at this point, the polish, latvian, and, yes, romanian, rent-a-rack torture shoppes frequenced by usa are world famous. [22:55]
mircea_popescu uh second [22:55]
asciilifeform (why usa cannot produce a working rack remains a mystery) [22:55]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa ah i think you gotta pay kako for access to that ? [22:56]
kuzetsa subscription or one-time? [22:56]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform why can't it produce a fucking radio set ? [22:56]
kakobrekla kanzure karma Keefe kermit khersonus knotwork_ KRS1 Kushed kuzetsa kyuupichan [22:56]
asciilifeform same reason, certainly. [22:56]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa gotta talk to kakobrekla [22:56]
kuzetsa hmm :( [22:56]
decimation ascii the object of the rack has rights [22:56]
asciilifeform perhaps somewhere in the bowels of meta-DHS there works an old soviet specialist who gets results. [22:56]
DreadKnight if these people inhabited a space i would commission nukes and glass them <-- I hate words with multiple meanings, because they tend to complicate things, so I really hate Apple for having that name, should be illegal imo *sigh* [22:57]
decimation radio sets are aplenty for the DoD, for golden toliet prices [22:57]
mircea_popescu kuzetsa anyway, i appreciate the girl's shaved and trimmed. clearly she'd make a decent fuck toy. [22:57]
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punkman strapless strapons look so uncomfortable [22:58]
kuzetsa punkman: they're not [22:58]
kuzetsa the strap ones are worse [22:59]
asciilifeform wtf is the point of a single-ended 'strapon' anyway [22:59]
mircea_popescu punkman thats intended to stimulate the clit [22:59]
asciilifeform shouldn't it, in principle, be an 'adapter' a la rs232? [22:59]
punkman asciilifeform: it's double-ended [22:59]
DreadKnight unrelated <-- supposedly some nerdy gamer chick from the tattoo and color of skin :3 [22:59]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform it is. there's a lumpy thing lodges inside the vagina and a proby thing going upfront. [22:59]
mircea_popescu a better tech solution than the strapon really. [22:59]
asciilifeform ahaa [22:59]
mircea_popescu took a while for things to switch because the strapon seems so intuitive. [23:00]
mircea_popescu but really, this is the correct approach [23:00]
punkman isn't the lever inside the vagine painful when in more vigorous use>? [23:00]
kuzetsa punkman: not sure what you mean about a lever O_O ... they're designed so the muscles can get a good grip and gspot stim and whatnot [23:00]
mircea_popescu punkman you have no idea what the vagina can take. [23:01]
* asciilifeform wonders why the gay folks never built a 'f2m' adapter - think strap-on 'fleshlight'... [23:01]
punkman I have some idea! [23:01]
mircea_popescu ok, some idea :D [23:01]
mircea_popescu moreover : nothing is painful to the sexually aroused woman. [23:01]
kuzetsa yeah uhm... they're kinda designed for pushing out noisy funny shaped crotchfruit the weight of a bowling ball [23:01]
mircea_popescu may be a little sore after. [23:02]
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mircea_popescu and girl-boy-dildo should totally be a pronsite. [23:02]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: you mean the name for one? [23:03]
mircea_popescu yes [23:03]
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kuzetsa ah [23:03]
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punkman is .dildo a TLD yet? [23:03]
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kuzetsa come to think of it, I think I saw some pegging porn on my tumblr dash in the past week :) [23:03]
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mircea_popescu FabianB: jurov: or by s.dice you mean popular, high risk, high dividend, short lifetime? << hopefully wol does the better parts of dice. [23:03]
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mircea_popescu kuzetsa this dumbing down of terminology offends me! pegging is when fresh cut ginger is applied prior to twenty or more solid cane swats. [23:04]
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kuzetsa ;;ud pegging [23:04]
gribble | pegging. anal sex reveresed. instead of the man sticking his penis up the womans butt, the woman wears a strap-on and sticks it up the mans butt. charles: are ... [23:04]
mircea_popescu SCANDAL [23:05]
kuzetsa uh huh [23:05]
punkman mircea_popescu: that's figging [23:05]
kuzetsa punkman: I though figging was generally considered anal ginger play [23:05]
kuzetsa ;;ud figging [23:05]
gribble | figging. A peeled ginger root, shaped like a slender butt plug, inserted into the anus without lubrication of any kind. The ginger juices cause pain and extreme ... [23:05]
mircea_popescu no, figging is when you put bits of fruit in there. [23:05]
kuzetsa mircea_popescu: you need more kink in your life, your vocabulary is mismatched to the definitions [23:06]
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mircea_popescu STOP OPPRESSING ME [23:06]
kuzetsa ok, that counts a "close enough" to the safeword **unties** [23:06]
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mircea_popescu if i happen to have formed a wrong idea it is my god given right as a transcvasimultiultra and so forth to stick to it and nobody can criticize me! [23:06]
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HeySteve hmm I thought figging was done to horses, to make them run faster in races [23:07]
mircea_popescu HeySteve well some people keep fillies for their private entertainment. [23:07]
kuzetsa well I tried: "transcvasimultiultra" on bing, and apparently mircea_popescu is a multicultural marketing agent or something [23:08]
mircea_popescu i just make up words a lot. [23:08]
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kuzetsa wait, is bing thinking that's transgender related? I'm so confused now :( [23:08]
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kuzetsa I should know better than to trust bing :( [23:09]
kuzetsa I wonder if maybe that unrecognized-by-bing type word was part romanian or something? [23:10]
benkay mircea_popescu: where'd that gifset come from? [23:10]
kuzetsa hmm? figging gifset? [23:10]
mircea_popescu bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: there's very little doubt in my mind that if i were in the sort of situation most folk over there enjoy, i'd simply be shooting people. << and yet taleb survives in nyc just fine << yes, he's not in the sort of situation. he's got teh dough. [23:10]
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mircea_popescu benkay tumblr, linked earlier IN THE LOGS [23:11]
punkman [23:11]
assbot EmoVu by Eyeris - EmoVu [23:11]
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benkay the pre-tumblr source, boss. [23:11]
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benkay if these people inhabited a space i would commission nukes and glass them <-- I hate words with multiple meanings, because they tend to complicate things, so I really hate Apple for having that name, should be illegal imo *sigh* [23:12]
benkay // glass? do you mean google? [23:12]
benkay and also DreadKnight ambiguity is good for your brain. [23:12]
mircea_popescu FabianB: isn't on bbet either, often bets with 0.1 on yes and 10 btc on no << that's not so often is it ? [23:12]
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mircea_popescu jurov from what i gather you're looking for a product marketable to the retail investor. that'd likely be mpif. it makes about 1% or so. [23:12]
mircea_popescu and has an adequate risk profile. (note that s.dice DID NOT have an adequate risk profile, and the dividends came at considerable capital risk. that the bitcoin retail investor is clueless enough to shove that under the rug makes little difference) [23:13]
mircea_popescu jurov: and if situation gets interesting, mp can pull asks, leaving me unable to add something to other side << i shouldn't be the only person in that market. provided anyone gives a shit about the derps themselves or their general market, enough to actually spend the usd they CLAIM to have received in investment, then that market should easily compete with s.mpoe. [23:15]
mircea_popescu whether it will or whether it wont fundamentally hinges on whether the vc economy is as relevant for bitcoin as mpoe is. which is a point i can't hardly help i dont think [23:15]
mircea_popescu jurov: and risk having bitcoins frozen on mpex? for years? << generally, bitcoin stays frozen somewhere anyway. who cycles bitcoin ? [23:16]
mircea_popescu pigeons: no there is a lot of truth to that << there' sa lot of truth to this : there IS NO OTHER SIDE. it's just words on the web. [23:17]
DreadKnight benkay, I quoted you, so don't ask me what you meant,lol I just considered you meant to kill them (nuke them) xD [23:17]
mircea_popescu i got tons of commends and invitations to discuss and socially groom on the topic of eth. meanwhile, the scammers cycled 5k btc or w/e, at 2k, and i got exactly 0 btc at 5k. [23:17]
mircea_popescu now no matter how you dice it, this simply says nobody is doing any buying at all. [23:18]
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DreadKnight benkay, but yeah, sometimes ambiguity helps making associations and remembering is all about that, plus some brain exercising is not bad, but I thought it's what you had against those people wanting to make a coin called "bacon" or "bacoin" [23:18]
mircea_popescu punkman: even if you don't get the believers to trade, you get them to pass up 2.5x discount and maybe consider that keeping their BTC might be better than giving them to random derps. << this is exactly it. [23:19]
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mircea_popescu glbse idiots didn't move to mpex after i ruined the various "mining" crap. but they DID stop doing it on glbse, and that was that. [23:19]
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DreadKnight benkay, anyway, associating psychologically something (digital in this case) with food is strange, which I don't like regarding Apple [23:20]
mircea_popescu fluffypony: so maybe the DERPs would have been better suited to have been run on Havelol by an independent intermediary << hardly, havelol lists 50% and more directly arbitrageable gaps all the time. [23:20]
mircea_popescu basically, if it's not one of the things they misrepresent, it looks like a pig w/o a lipstick. [23:20]
mircea_popescu jurov: that's the point, i expect f.* to be impossible to liquidate, unless there is a leak or "leak" << how do you mean ? [23:21]
punkman leak of IPO information, and I think he meant d.* [23:22]
jurov punkman yes [23:22]
benkay DreadKnight: i have no idea where you're getting food. oh - bacon? where's the AAPL connection? [23:22]
mircea_popescu jurov punkman i don't follow the logic here. explain to me like i was 5 ? [23:23]
mircea_popescu unrelatedly : anyone wanna do some alpha testing of a brand new service ? [23:24]
mircea_popescu raise your left toe. [23:24]
jurov like i wrote on s.nsa example, no one will put bids till there's some news [23:24]
mircea_popescu jurov if you want to sell, why aren't you putting asks up ? [23:24]
mircea_popescu the way market works is that if you know what you want to do, you announce it. [23:24]
mircea_popescu if yu don't know, then you don't announce. [23:24]
mircea_popescu it is sinful to at the same time know and not have announced. [23:25]
jurov i have multiple past experiences that one has to wait months for such asks to be sold [23:25]
mircea_popescu how low ? [23:25]
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DreadKnight benkay, bacon is food, apple is food, naming software or hardware after food is somewhat applying psychological manipulation, think about the Pavlov's dog [23:26]
mircea_popescu obviously the price and time correlate, i'd think [23:26]
DreadKnight benkay, so when you talk about common stuff like food you think about the less known altcoin or hardware company and the other way around, which is evil [23:26]
jurov iirc 20% above ipo/long time average price [23:27]
benkay the world is full of associations. policing your brain is your own problem, imho. [23:27]
mircea_popescu jurov so it'd take months to sell for more than the average ? this is expected no ? [23:27]
mircea_popescu but this is a sidepoint anyway, im more interested in the f.* impossible to liquidate thing [23:28]
benkay finance must create incentives for long-term investment, otherwise it's not really useful. [23:28]
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DreadKnight benkay, most people when they hear "apple" get a little more spit in their mouth, it's how psychology works, you have involuntary reflexes which you can't control properly [23:28]
benkay DreadKnight: i care zero whits about most people. [23:29]
DreadKnight so it's not really my own problem, is something related to our design and the masses [23:29]
DreadKnight you are people [23:29]
kuzetsa DreadKnight: when I hear "apple" I think of the company and feel a little sick [23:29]
benkay jurov et al a huge issue in btc finance right now is the lack of long term plays and the fixation on returns! now! [23:29]
kuzetsa then again, I'm not "most peolpe" [23:29]
benkay DreadKnight: i am not most people. [23:29]
benkay !b 2 [23:29]
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DreadKnight kuzetsa, me too, it tans the fruit and ties it to hardware and evil [23:30]
kuzetsa aww, you got me in a quote? whatever :( [23:30]
DreadKnight benkay, that's exactly what most people say xD [23:30]
mircea_popescu benkay well he has a serious problem with a bunch of kids that wish to be made rich by bitcoin through nothing more than just that. [23:30]
mircea_popescu which... yeah, i can see it'd be a problem. [23:30]
jurov i mean, if i wanted to liquidate s.nsa, i'd have to sell for 90% and still wait till it gets filled [23:30]
jurov same happened with f.mpif recently [23:31]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, mainly I have a problem with Apple and who allowed it to have that name [23:31]
benkay DreadKnight: and yet i'm a baron of la serenissima, and most people are not never will nor ever could. [23:31]
mircea_popescu jurov you mean the ~20 btc that sold for 21ish average and the book is pretty much back ? [23:31]
DreadKnight benkay, first that I hear that word, guess it's a location xD [23:31]
mircea_popescu DreadKnight no, mainly you're turrning yourself into a problem because you keep beating that dead horse discussion while we're talking finance, which is the overriding topic here. [23:31]
DreadKnight mircea_popescu, very common names can give companies or product a huge boost regarding making those finances [23:32]
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DreadKnight there's a lot of psychology in branding, can even make or break the products themselves [23:33]
mircea_popescu fluffypony: 46k-spent-mining-hardware-final-reckoning << that'd have been a much better post if it actually included numbers. you know, paid this, then, made back this much so far etc. [23:33]
mircea_popescu and i guess if it weren't on coindesk. which two are problly synonymous anywaqy. [23:34]
benkay i suppose if they're undifferentiable from other chicom-originating crap, DreadKnight. otherwise, there's value provided that a brand has nothing to do with. [23:34]
benkay what's the MPEx brand and how does it make or break MPEx? [23:34]
DreadKnight benkay, took my quite a bit to remember that MPEx thing and figure out what part of it names stand for, still not sure about the full name; it's an acronym; anyway, stock related stuff is usually named using acronyms and rather obscure compared to regular brands [23:36]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 210 @ 0.0029 = 0.609 BTC [-] [23:40]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2337 @ 0.00289999 = 6.7773 BTC [-] {2} [23:41]
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DreadKnight benkay, anyway, was wondering why you said you would nuke those people since you didn't provided an argument; are you against seeing more joke coins or what? [23:43]
DreadKnight altcoins are kinda like linux distros nowadays, a lot of people making yet another one for no apparent reason (trying to get rich with not much work), just to change the name and such, hoping they might get lucky [23:45]
DreadKnight there are only a few coins that actually bring something new to the table [23:46]
asciilifeform DreadKnight: other than (arguably) 'litecoin' - which? [23:46]
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DreadKnight well, most alt coins change some variables around, just like linux distros change default packages and wallpaper [23:49]
asciilifeform right. so which ones bring something new ? [23:50]
DreadKnight some try to improve stuff under the hood, but I don't have the technical expertise to figure out if those changes are really improvements [23:51]
DreadKnight they're kinda like branches of software, so a bit of experimentation is good to be done in "test areas" rather than on the popular blockchain everybody is using [23:52]
DreadKnight it's good to have ltc around, just like there's both gold and silver [23:53]
DreadKnight it's not very likely any time soon that all humans will only use a coin, same goes for languages; a lot of people benefit from conversions / exchanges [23:55]
asciilifeform DreadKnight: i'd argue that ltc is an experiment ('let's banish asic') that failed. [23:56]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1910 @ 0.00289999 = 5.539 BTC [-] [23:57]
DreadKnight asciilifeform, well, after GPU mining was redundant on btc, a lot of people switched to ltc, but pretty much no coin is worth mining with GPU anymore now [23:57]
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DreadKnight so it was just a matter of time; mining difficulty keeps increasing [23:57]
benkay some try to improve stuff under the hood, but I don't have the technical expertise to figure out if those changes are really improvements // if the improvement isn't plain as the nose on my kike face it and everyone behind it are going to get glassed [23:58]
benkay improvement on the scale of bitcoin over dollars [23:58]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform ltc is primarily the politician's captive daughter re "we'll ban bitcoin!" [23:58]
DreadKnight yeah, in case btc gets banned, you got more fish in the pond; so either ban "digital currencies" but fiat money kinda got converted to digital with credit cards [23:59]
DreadKnight and bank accounts [23:59]
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