Forum logs for 26 Oct 2013
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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mircea_popescu | http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/10/24/exclusive_germany_brazil_turn_to_un_to_restrain_american_spies | [00:08] |
ozbot | Exclusive: Germany, Brazil Turn to U.N. to Restrain American Spies | The Cable | [00:08] |
mircea_popescu | the un general assembly is going to be a riot. | [00:08] |
mircea_popescu | obama takes off shoe, slams it against table ? | [00:08] |
jurov | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oBZaht3nNo | [00:09] |
ozbot | DentiDrill - de eerste tandartsboor voor thuisgebruik - YouTube | [00:09] |
jurov | mircea_popescu: citizen dentistry is here! | [00:09] |
asciilifeform | nah, he'll just gather a group of flunkies in his office and shout 'nein nein nein nein nein!' | [00:09] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform NEVER AGAIN YOU HEAR!!! WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT~!!!!1 | [00:09] |
nubbins` | !!! | [00:10] |
mircea_popescu | jurov yeah, those two really look like they can't afford the dentist visit | [00:10] |
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jurov | that's homeschooling, don't need no filthy teachers or doctors | [00:11] |
mircea_popescu | seems a broken analogy. | [00:11] |
mircea_popescu | schooling would appear to be more akin cooking than dentistry. | [00:11] |
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mircea_popescu | asciilifeform here you go : "The worst case scenario I think would be having our European allies saying they will no longer share signals intelligence because of a concern that our SigInt is being derived from mechanisms that violate their privacy rules," said Ray Kimball, an army strategist with policy experience on European issues. | [00:15] |
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jurov | Oh my! Oracle powered exchange. | [00:17] |
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jurov | and all dat swag...mircea, nobody will take you seriously now. you absolutely must announce microsoft sql server or google partnership. | [00:20] |
mircea_popescu | i don't know anyone there i'd want to partner with tho. | [00:21] |
mircea_popescu | sucks to be me i guess. | [00:21] |
jurov | and don't forget MPEx-themed condoms | [00:21] |
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mircea_popescu | i can't do that, the neoreactionaries would hate me because i am helping the jewish-african plot to subvert white fecundity. | [00:23] |
pankkake | I want the pankkake-themed butt plug http://i.imgur.com/xOftDYp.png | [00:23] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.vdare.com/articles/diversity-boot-camp-closed-at-the-university-of-delaware-but-big-brother-is-still-going-str < not a bad read. | [00:23] |
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dub | can't read it because its layed out like the writer has sever ADHD | [00:31] |
jurov | it's an African-American woman of biracial West Indian and Russian-Jewish heritage | [00:31] |
dub | but at a glimpse, angry old man syndrome | [00:32] |
mircea_popescu | dub what's that ? | [00:32] |
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dub | ADHD? its another name for asperges | [00:33] |
mircea_popescu | angry old man syndrome. | [00:33] |
pankkake | curmudgeon | [00:33] |
mircea_popescu | "Americans don't want to study hard things. That's for foreigners. Fluff courses like these ethnic-studies timewasters—that's what people want. Unless a university is 'anchored' by a big department teaching real subjects—a medical or engineering school—the drift is all that way." | [00:34] |
dub | it just looks like a 'in my day' rant | [00:34] |
mircea_popescu | no, seriously, it's perhaps the best discussion of us academia i've read. ever. | [00:34] |
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mircea_popescu | it does strangely veer into how aids is all about faggots and evil black people in africa however. | [00:36] |
mircea_popescu | weird how that works out. | [00:36] |
dexX7 | https://blockchain.info/address/1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH all those 324 btc tx ... http://www.pachd.com/free-images/technology-images/phone-dial-pad-01.jpg :D | [00:36] |
ozbot | Bitcoin Address 1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH | [00:36] |
mircea_popescu | dexX7 lmao someone in the fbi seriously sat over a console coding up a way to send bitcoins in 324 batches ? | [00:38] |
mircea_popescu | cute. | [00:38] |
dexX7 | yes | [00:38] |
dub | I suspect if they'd been teachign empathy and inclusivety in 1852 the world would be a lot nicer place | [00:38] |
dub | inb4 blawgrage | [00:39] |
mircea_popescu | dub yeah, i'd be speaking chinese and you lot wouldn't be on the internet. | [00:39] |
dexX7 | if you take a look at a phonepad and type 324 it will include the chars to form FBI | [00:39] |
dub | dexX7: fucken chemtrails | [00:39] |
dexX7 | chemtrails are bad, yes :p | [00:40] |
mircea_popescu | dexX7 i'm aware. i just thought it's marginally ridiculous to be that desperate to impress bitcoin forum/reddit. | [00:40] |
dexX7 | haha yea | [00:41] |
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mircea_popescu | but hey, whatever. sucks being a govt agency, if you do shit like this you're too eager, if you don't you're dumb, there's no way out. | [00:41] |
dexX7 | there is still the theory that the whole bust was manufactured | [00:42] |
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mircea_popescu | you mean presley's or hoffa's ? | [00:42] |
dexX7 | i'm looking for the post, sec | [00:43] |
mircea_popescu | you can't be too young to have missed those references ?! | [00:43] |
dexX7 | :D | [00:43] |
dexX7 | i don't know this reference | [00:43] |
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mircea_popescu | well the theory is that elvis isn't really dead, just hiding, and then hoffa (teamsters union) was dissapeared mysteriously | [00:44] |
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mircea_popescu | so obliquely, "yeah, you'll never get rid of the theory X thing is manufactured" | [00:44] |
dexX7 | ah | [00:45] |
kakobrekla | you should say tupac or something, for the kids | [00:46] |
mircea_popescu | dr dre's dead | [00:46] |
mircea_popescu | he's locked in ma basement | [00:46] |
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mod6 | mircea_popescu: haha | [00:50] |
dexX7 | well anyway. i don't find it, but it was on reddit. probably deleted by the mods, because it was true. :p | [00:52] |
dexX7 | jk | [00:52] |
dexX7 | http://www.reddit.com/r/SilkroadUNcensored/comments/1p0ogt/time_to_let_the_cat_out_of_the_hat/ | [00:53] |
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mircea_popescu | lol it got deleted ? | [00:56] |
mircea_popescu | i remember reading it yest or w/e. coupla pages of the usual fare. | [00:56] |
kakobrekla | https://www.coinx.com/ | [00:57] |
ozbot | Home Page - CoinX Trading Platform | [00:57] |
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dexX7 | looks like another hobby project | [00:58] |
kakobrekla | http://finance.yahoo.com/news/coinx-bitcoin-exchange-actually-takes-142123182.html | [00:59] |
ozbot | CoinX Is A New Bitcoin Exchange That Actually Takes Financial Compliance Seriously - Yahoo Finance | [00:59] |
mircea_popescu | allthese pictures of handshakes... | [00:59] |
dexX7 | uh lol | [00:59] |
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kakobrekla | Operating out of Atlanta, Ga., CoinX is all about turning conventional money into the anonymous digital currency called Bitcoin, and Bitcoin into conventional money. It's also the first to actually take financial compliance seriously. | [00:59] |
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kakobrekla | CoinX and the NYSE are so closely linked that the NYSE logo appears on some CoinX marketing. | [01:00] |
kakobrekla | lol | [01:00] |
mircea_popescu | uh what ? | [01:01] |
mircea_popescu | Megan is the founder and CEO of a successful Internet security and networking company that provides service to a number of Fortune 1000 companies. | [01:02] |
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kakobrekla | i think theres a reason why over 50% of fx trades is in europe | [01:02] |
mircea_popescu | who apparently had some startup in atlanta called seegee | [01:02] |
dexX7 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJBFaaYGmqQ | [01:02] |
ozbot | Testimonial - Megan Burton of CoinX - YouTube | [01:02] |
dexX7 | http://www.seegee.com/about-us/management-team.html | [01:03] |
ozbot | IT Management Team - SeeGee Technologies | [01:03] |
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mircea_popescu | so okay, burned through the funding, moved over to bitcoin. | [01:03] |
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mircea_popescu | i wonder how many of the retarded vcs (defined as any vc who's not been talking to me, no matter what their mommy told them about how smart they are) realise that the new mo of the start-up scamscene is, get a "seed round", turn it to bitcoin, walk away with the wallet a year later. | [01:04] |
kakobrekla | >>"no doesnt mean no, means not right now" | [01:04] |
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kakobrekla | >CoinX is licensed in more than half of US states. | [01:05] |
kakobrekla | that beats kraken? | [01:05] |
mircea_popescu | until they show proof to these claims, btcjam is licensed on the pacific ocean floor. | [01:07] |
mircea_popescu | and tux has a license from a kappa he once met on a river bank. | [01:07] |
jurov | we have somalian license | [01:08] |
dexX7 | kakobrekla: was it you who "tested" btc.cx? what was your conclusion? | [01:09] |
dexX7 | www.btc.sx | [01:09] |
kakobrekla | very poorly coded | [01:10] |
pankkake | .sx and not related to sex :/ | [01:10] |
jurov | .sux | [01:10] |
kakobrekla | ^^ | [01:10] |
dexX7 | xD | [01:10] |
kakobrekla | but hey im a sladerous soul | [01:10] |
kakobrekla | so dont listen to me. | [01:10] |
jurov | my slovenly slanderous somalian | [01:11] |
jurov | *slovenly slanderous somalian soul | [01:11] |
pankkake | somali* | [01:11] |
jurov | oh sry | [01:11] |
kakobrekla | twice as worse as the SS | [01:12] |
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kakobrekla | yeah jurov whats up with the slander | [01:19] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves you know, it's a little strange you're doing their announcements for them. you're starting like a pr practice or what is it ? | [01:19] |
jurov | what slander? towards oracle? cuz i was a DBA. | [01:19] |
mircea_popescu | you actually signing off on them, if they fail to deliver whatever people get to pursue you ? | [01:19] |
ThickAsThieves | more like transfer agent / asset manager | [01:19] |
mircea_popescu | it'd prolly be a good idea to clearly specify the relationship, preferably by a published contract. otherwise you'll have trouble managing expectations down the road. | [01:20] |
ThickAsThieves | all claims are those of Neo's, not TATI | [01:20] |
jurov | in any case i doubt they'll choose something other for exchange, having the expertise in-house | [01:20] |
ThickAsThieves | this relationship is explained in the prospectus | [01:21] |
ThickAsThieves | whether sufficient, i cant say | [01:21] |
mircea_popescu | well, the fact remains most people that managed to ruin their reputation to date did so by agreeing to front for some third party new to btc that then went tits up. | [01:22] |
jurov | ThickAsThieves: no hard feelings... aside for my personal oracle dba misadventure, i found it funny to publish photos of swag like there | [01:24] |
ThickAsThieves | I understand. We went through several measures to manage that concern. Surely we could have done more, and we can never prevent outright failure of the business, but we do have a contract with Neo directly that defines our role as well. | [01:24] |
jurov | wow, you got managerspeak bug :) | [01:25] |
ThickAsThieves | i know nothing of Oracle vs this or that. Honestly my personal impression of Oracle is negative | [01:25] |
mircea_popescu | just make sure people know about the definitions so you have what to fall back on in case. | [01:25] |
mircea_popescu | financial management is contingency management after all. | [01:25] |
dexX7 | how many people are behind ThickAsThieves? | [01:26] |
ThickAsThieves | Understood, contigency planning seems to be most of my time these days... | [01:26] |
ThickAsThieves | haha, well ThickAsThieves is just a handle for me personally | [01:26] |
mircea_popescu | jurov oracle is pretty good if you run a large non it corp, because you can just call them to fix your shit. it's non trivial to keep on staff it people able to handle large-ish server farms. | [01:26] |
ThickAsThieves | TATI the entity is 2 partners and a few software guys | [01:27] |
dexX7 | ah okay :) | [01:27] |
mircea_popescu | leaving aside the horrible obamacare website fail which probably everyone heard of, check out say this : | [01:27] |
mircea_popescu | http://ace.mu.nu/archives/334783.php | [01:27] |
mircea_popescu | (romney's campaign fail) | [01:27] |
jurov | so neo/bee won't have in house dba? oracle support, especially urgent one, is expensive | [01:28] |
ThickAsThieves | i know their oracle setup wasnt cheap | [01:29] |
jurov | i' not sure cyprus market can easily support sich | [01:29] |
jurov | *such | [01:29] |
mircea_popescu | maybe they already have it for something else and are just freeriding this on that. | [01:29] |
mircea_popescu | inhouse dba is expensive too, for that matter. | [01:29] |
jurov | no i understood it as they creating new team from scratch | [01:29] |
mircea_popescu | ya well. | [01:30] |
jurov | "Leon has a long-standing relationship with Danny Brewster, trust has been established over many years." or from scrotch | [01:30] |
ThickAsThieves | they have a software consulting co that is handling it all i think, as a long term partner | [01:30] |
ThickAsThieves | i met two of the guys | [01:30] |
ThickAsThieves | they are hiring for the project, yes | [01:30] |
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jurov | whatever, i just want to say whole setup looks too excessive. | [01:32] |
dexX7 | is there already an eta for the exchange or is it more an idea? | [01:33] |
ThickAsThieves | excessive to run a payment network and bank chains? | [01:33] |
ThickAsThieves | i have no idea | [01:33] |
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ThickAsThieves | the exchange has no timeline | [01:33] |
jurov | i mean the office space, furniture, oracle licenses, etc. | [01:33] |
ThickAsThieves | i guess time will tell, i have no way to argue for or against the frigality | [01:34] |
ThickAsThieves | frugality | [01:34] |
ThickAsThieves | probably isnt one answer anyway | [01:35] |
jurov | imho these are suitable for established bank, not as a first thing after they got investment | [01:36] |
mircea_popescu | jurov lol they got one crampy conference room and some office space, give teh people a break. | [01:36] |
ThickAsThieves | is your opinion from experience? | [01:37] |
mircea_popescu | i've seen MUCH worse in ny and sf. | [01:37] |
pankkake | my experience is that oracle sucks balls :p | [01:37] |
pankkake | otherwise the thing looks ok. actually, I don't really undertand why they have to communicate about oracle | [01:37] |
dexX7 | mircea_popescu: you must have missed that http://i.imgur.com/U1lr806.png ;) | [01:37] |
ThickAsThieves | the pictures do make the office space look smaller than it is | [01:37] |
jurov | My experience is that in slovakia (similarly sized marked like cyprus) such spaces are few and far between. | [01:37] |
ThickAsThieves | when i was there i was like oh, i thought it this was all much smaller | [01:38] |
mircea_popescu | dexX7 that looks like a model :p | [01:38] |
ThickAsThieves | the buidling exists | [01:38] |
ThickAsThieves | and looks much like the rendering | [01:38] |
ThickAsThieves | the signage isnt there yet | [01:38] |
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ThickAsThieves | they have the whole floor just above the sign | [01:38] |
mircea_popescu | ThickAsThieves yeah pictures usually do. i know the first time i went on a set and saw the actual tits i was hmm... didn't think they're actually that big. | [01:38] |
ThickAsThieves | and then one rretail unit below it | [01:38] |
ThickAsThieves | haha | [01:39] |
dexX7 | the whole complex is used by them or did they just rent a floor? | [01:39] |
dexX7 | ah okaxy | [01:39] |
ThickAsThieves | the top floor is their design agency | [01:39] |
mircea_popescu | dexX7 the building is made from the caps of pens they use in filing their taxes | [01:39] |
ThickAsThieves | the software agency is considering an office bnearby as well | [01:39] |
mircea_popescu | it rests atop an artificial island created out of employee icecream tubs. | [01:39] |
ThickAsThieves | mktg agency, i should say, not design | [01:40] |
ThickAsThieves | of course they do design as well | [01:40] |
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nubbins` | it's so rare that i see the word "fecund" used in conversation. great word | [02:48] |
mircea_popescu | :p | [02:48] |
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nubbins` | lel, a thousand times lel | [02:54] |
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nubbins` | (just catching up here) | [02:54] |
dexX7 | haha yeah | [02:54] |
nubbins` | zine workshop was a bit of a shit show | [02:54] |
mircea_popescu | crazy bitches ? | [02:54] |
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nubbins` | the workshop itself was great, everybody loved printing. but then i got stuck in the room for a "discussion" between this youth group and their project supervisors | [02:56] |
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nubbins` | where basically everyone argued for an hour | [02:56] |
nubbins` | about their responsibilities | [02:56] |
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mircea_popescu | kids there don't get beaten enough. | [02:57] |
nubbins` | well, that was one of the points that came up | [02:57] |
nubbins` | it's 9 youths from canada and 9 from ghana | [02:57] |
mircea_popescu | o wow. interesting idea | [02:58] |
nubbins` | yeah. 3 months here, 3 months there | [02:58] |
nubbins` | anyway, the issue arose because the ghanaians don't feel comfortable questioning "authority" figures, and the supervisors were explaining that here in canada if you don't understand why you're doing something, you ask, because you're trying to be a part of our culture | [02:59] |
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nubbins` | then the point was raised that the canadians will also probably end up feeling uncomfortable in ghana because children are caned there | [02:59] |
nubbins` | and the canadians were all "o" | [03:00] |
mircea_popescu | ahahaha precious | [03:00] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.75 = 4.5 BTC [-] {2} | [03:00] |
mircea_popescu | somehow we must get this perfect middle where if you don't understand you ask but if you think you know better you stfu or get caned. | [03:00] |
mircea_popescu | i'd totally move to that ghanada. | [03:01] |
mircea_popescu | heck, even pay taxes. | [03:01] |
nubbins` | ! | [03:01] |
nubbins` | funny, "ghanada" is exactly what's written on the covers of the zines | [03:01] |
nubbins` | you sure you're not a youth volunteer? | [03:01] |
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mircea_popescu | i'm just the nsa, that's all. | [03:02] |
monkey` | that trashbag mircea popescu selling a new pump and dump? | [03:03] |
kakobrekla | dis comming from labcoin investor? | [03:03] |
monkey` | http://mpex.co/?mpsic=S.NSA | [03:03] |
monkey` | fuck is this new garbage? what happend to his little online RPG | [03:04] |
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mircea_popescu | Jun 22 23:49:41 |
[03:04] |
mircea_popescu | so i guess this is the that guy, what's his name | [03:04] |
monkey` | shutup gypsy | [03:05] |
mircea_popescu | what were you originally ? the guy with the cars/living standards/whatnot | [03:05] |
monkey` | where is your online game? | [03:05] |
mod6 | money` = EB | [03:05] |
mod6 | *monkey` | [03:05] |
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nubbins` | oh! eskimo bob? | [03:05] |
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mircea_popescu | no ?! | [03:05] |
mod6 | yah, long time no troll | [03:05] |
asciilifeform | reptilia? is back? | [03:06] |
monkey` | mircea_popescu: where is your online RPG? | [03:06] |
mircea_popescu | ahaha, wait, the "fuck asics, i'll make a heat oven PMG" ? | [03:06] |
nubbins` | ^ | [03:06] |
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mircea_popescu | monkey` i can't tell you cause you'll probably be mean to it. | [03:06] |
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monkey` | mircea right | [03:06] |
monkey` | mircea is an adult? lol. | [03:06] |
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monkey` | fake name too | [03:07] |
nubbins` | everybody's an adult but you ;) | [03:07] |
mircea_popescu | but srsly, http://minigame.bz/eulora/binaries/ | [03:07] |
nubbins` | ^ | [03:07] |
dexX7 | you sure are minimal.. http://minigame.bz/ | [03:08] |
mircea_popescu | dexX7 you know the all one california crazy soap ? | [03:08] |
dexX7 | which one? californication? | [03:09] |
mircea_popescu | nono | [03:09] |
dexX7 | i have no idea what you are talking about | [03:09] |
dexX7 | :/ | [03:09] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.drbronner.com/ | [03:09] |
ozbot | Dr. Bronner's Magic Soaps All-One | [03:09] |
dexX7 | haha wtf | [03:09] |
mircea_popescu | you should see the labels on those things | [03:10] |
mircea_popescu | it's basically timecube on a fmcg label | [03:10] |
nubbins` | i watched a documentary on that soap a while ago | [03:10] |
nubbins` | weird people | [03:10] |
mircea_popescu | it | [03:10] |
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mircea_popescu | 's even got sideways print to fill all available surfaces with rant | [03:11] |
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dexX7 | interesting approach | [03:12] |
mircea_popescu | dexX7's TIL counter is getting tickled today lol | [03:13] |
nubbins` | hmm, EB has fallen oddly silent | [03:13] |
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mircea_popescu | i think it's the other guy honestly | [03:14] |
mircea_popescu | what the fuck was his original handle | [03:14] |
nubbins` | ah | [03:14] |
mircea_popescu | dub what's the guy's handle ? | [03:14] |
benkay | tib? | [03:14] |
mircea_popescu | a a yes | [03:14] |
mircea_popescu | tiberiusd | [03:14] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.74 BTC [-] | [03:14] |
benkay | tib was a class act | [03:14] |
benkay | he even got you worked up a few times | [03:15] |
mircea_popescu | o ya ? | [03:15] |
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benkay | point is this human is no tiberiusxiv | [03:17] |
nubbins` | (HEH) | [03:17] |
mircea_popescu | mebbeh so | [03:17] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 19 @ 0.00727552 = 0.1382 BTC [-] {3} | [03:22] |
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mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2013/were-all-one/ dex there's a pic of the label there. | [03:33] |
ozbot | We’re all one pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [03:33] |
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benkay | amazing soap | [03:35] |
assbot | AMAZING COMPANY! | [03:35] |
Kleeck_ | assbot is such a dick | [03:35] |
mircea_popescu | strangely enough, it IS the best soap in the us | [03:35] |
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dexX7 | lol | [03:38] |
dexX7 | indeed an amazing soap | [03:38] |
assbot | AMAZING COMPANY! | [03:38] |
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nubbins` | http://all-one-typography.com/Dr_Bronners-label-Peppermint-32oz.jpg | [03:42] |
nubbins` | i'm outta here, it's friday night and i'm still sober | [03:42] |
KRS1 | do something about that player im about to | [03:43] |
mircea_popescu | omfg they have it online. wow. | [03:43] |
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benkay | y'all should see their new tirades about GMOs | [04:03] |
Kleeck_ | GMOs are the devil. | [04:04] |
benkay | dat binary thinking | [04:05] |
Kleeck_ | dat assumption. | [04:05] |
Kleeck_ | :) | [04:05] |
Kleeck_ | "Agree with me or you're binary!" | [04:05] |
Kleeck_ | ROFL. | [04:05] |
Kleeck_ | The illusion of intelligence. | [04:06] |
benkay | what ams devil? | [04:06] |
benkay | what ams gmo? | [04:06] |
benkay | i just want a little more subtlety in the conversation | [04:07] |
KRS1 | nothing wrong with gmo's..people just being paranoid. | [04:07] |
benkay | f.ex: an organism identified to carry a certain set of genes bred with another organism some breeders would like to see that gene in | [04:07] |
benkay | ams gmo? | [04:07] |
KRS1 | benkay: engineers reprogram for instance the dna of a tomato so they grow really big and feed more people..a really simple example | [04:07] |
mircea_popescu | benkay do you understand the process behind gmo ? | [04:08] |
benkay | (mircea_popescu: yes) | [04:08] |
mircea_popescu | well so then that's the objection. has nothing to do with reproduction, it's just mashing things together | [04:08] |
benkay | i'm quibbling about what it means for a thing to be a "genetically modified organism" | [04:09] |
benkay | especially given what's coming out about the common nature of organic viral-driven lateral gene transfer | [04:09] |
mircea_popescu | it means to have undergone this process where random bits of dna were thrown at a large number of cells just like it, in the hopes that something maybe catches. | [04:09] |
dexX7 | usually it's more like "we make the tomato resistant vs pesticide x" afaik | [04:09] |
mircea_popescu | benkay i will trust a natural process, such as viral transfer, on the grounds that in millenia of practice it failed to make the world dangerous for me. | [04:10] |
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mircea_popescu | i will not trust an industrial process, such as gmo, on the grounds that in centuries of practice it NEVER failed to make the world dangerous for me. | [04:10] |
dexX7 | ^ +1 | [04:10] |
mircea_popescu | quite a gap there | [04:10] |
benkay | on the same note, everything that increases agricultural output is a bad thing 'cause it leads rather quickly to more humans | [04:11] |
asciilifeform | there's also the more prosaic fact that 99% of gmo work is for: pesticide resistance. | [04:12] |
mircea_popescu | that's also a good point yeah. | [04:12] |
asciilifeform | pesticide/herbicide | [04:12] |
mircea_popescu | benkay i doubt there's much relation. famine is well resilient to dropping prices of grain | [04:12] |
mircea_popescu | people will make ethanol out of corn or buy it to rot in govt "reserves" before feeding any starving idiots | [04:13] |
asciilifeform | btw, when will the drug aficionados get around to the fabled 'THC tomato.' that'd be something to write home about. | [04:13] |
benkay | why would you put those genes in a plant that fruits? | [04:14] |
mircea_popescu | what plant doesn't fruit ?! | [04:14] |
asciilifeform | camouflage. | [04:14] |
benkay | actually now i'm curious what an unpollinated tomato would do | [04:15] |
benkay | 'cause that's how one prevents a pot plant from going to seed | [04:15] |
benkay | anyways there's decades of breeding in the pot plants that i find it hard to imagine getting around with gmos | [04:15] |
mircea_popescu | you never know your luck | [04:15] |
mircea_popescu | gmo is basically a game of vegas slots | [04:16] |
mircea_popescu | except people have found a way to get investors to pay for it | [04:16] |
asciilifeform | very much so. a place i worked went broke partly because we couldn't get a necessary transfection going. | [04:16] |
mircea_popescu | it's basically a game of "twelve lines" or "six lines" or w/e | [04:17] |
mircea_popescu | those lines could each be 1 in 100 | [04:18] |
mircea_popescu | or they could be 1 in 10^65 | [04:18] |
mircea_popescu | you don't know... | [04:18] |
mircea_popescu | so you get five of the six... and that's all you're going to get. | [04:18] |
asciilifeform | it's also a game of 'e. coli simply can't be persuaded to piss out X.' or 'croaks trying.' | [04:18] |
mircea_popescu | that's probably the product of the future, by the way : the organic computer. | [04:19] |
KRS1 | yes | [04:19] |
mircea_popescu | in the sense of, this programmable device capable of controlled gmoization. | [04:19] |
mircea_popescu | sort of like a 3d printer + desktop combo, but made out of cunt tissue and capable of pissing apples. | [04:19] |
mircea_popescu | (not whole apples, of course. apple paste) | [04:20] |
asciilifeform | we have those already: chinese postdocs. they don't always cut it, though. | [04:20] |
KRS1 | heh thats quite a picture | [04:20] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform nah, they can't actually sprout shitake. | [04:20] |
KRS1 | i would like pr0ns of that | [04:20] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, asciilifeform, the saddest story to date is of this corp that MANAGED it. once. | [04:22] |
mircea_popescu | they figured it's easy to do, and so didn't pay enough attention to the samples | [04:22] |
mircea_popescu | which died. | [04:22] |
mircea_popescu | and then could never do it again. | [04:22] |
asciilifeform | managed what? | [04:22] |
mircea_popescu | the whole list of combos they needed | [04:22] |
mircea_popescu | apparently one of them being a very improbable occurence they lucked out on. once. | [04:23] |
asciilifeform | when you're in bio business, you have to be prepared that your working capital can literally croak. | [04:23] |
asciilifeform | one of the worst occasions is when a mouse farm dies | [04:23] |
asciilifeform | this can happen overnight. | [04:23] |
asciilifeform | (little buggers all catch something at once. esp. if they're immunocompromised for whatever reason.) | [04:24] |
mircea_popescu | yeah. | [04:24] |
mircea_popescu | afaik you can't even go into the mouse farms anymore | [04:25] |
mircea_popescu | wholly robotic shit | [04:25] |
asciilifeform | btw, phun phact: they're under 24/7 armed guard, in any respectable shop. | [04:25] |
asciilifeform | i've never once been inside - didn't have clearance. | [04:26] |
mircea_popescu | well 20 years ago it was a lot more amicable a thing | [04:26] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ident benkay | [04:27] |
gribble | Nick 'benkay', with hostmask 'benkay!~benkay@c-71-193-200-93.hsd1.or.comcast.net', is not identified. | [04:27] |
asciilifeform | the newer ones have compartmentalized air supplies for individual lots - a bit like dirigible ballonettes. | [04:27] |
benkay | ;;ident benkay | [04:27] |
gribble | Nick 'benkay', with hostmask 'benkay!~benkay@c-71-193-200-93.hsd1.or.comcast.net', is not identified. | [04:27] |
benkay | wa | [04:27] |
benkay | oh wot as well | [04:28] |
benkay | a full day of fighting stupid computers | [04:28] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7400 @ 0.00082881 = 6.1332 BTC [+] {2} | [04:31] |
benkay | !mp http://dpaste.com/1429816/plain/ | [04:33] |
assbot | Processing. | [04:33] |
assbot | Response: http://dpaste.com/1429817/plain/ | [04:33] |
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benkay | the robots hate me today | [04:33] |
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asciilifeform | benkay: industrial robo? | [04:37] |
benkay | no, i got shot of actual physical fucking atoms a year ago | [04:38] |
benkay | nearly a year and a half! | [04:38] |
benkay | the cloud robots. | [04:38] |
asciilifeform | i still can't bring myself to call a widget that pushes only electrons a robot. | [04:40] |
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benkay | the widgets for which i'm responsible ultimately move atoms around | [04:41] |
benkay | but only after shunting lots of electrons and making lots of api calls and getting the odd human involved | [04:42] |
benkay | far more fun to play with than the industrial type | [04:43] |
asciilifeform | there's an undeniable sportsmanship appeal to programming a computer that might kill you, however. | [04:43] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 50 @ 0.00722 = 0.361 BTC [-] {2} | [04:44] |
benkay | mega personal happiness penalties from programming in proprietary ladder logic though | [04:44] |
asciilifeform | it beats xyz arms hooked up to winblows boxes. | [04:45] |
benkay | comprable | [04:46] |
benkay | the only upside to that gig was watching the shop operators grow more and more uncomfortable around me and my robots during my tenure | [04:46] |
benkay | i would have enjoyed it more had i embraced my sadistic side earlier in life. | [04:47] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 60 @ 0.00720016 = 0.432 BTC [-] {2} | [04:48] |
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mircea_popescu | http://trilema.com/2013/mpoe-october-2013-statement/ | [04:52] |
ozbot | MPOE, October 2013 Statement pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. | [04:52] |
mircea_popescu | meanwhile back at the ranch, "Michelle Obama’s Princeton classmate is a top executive at the company that earned the contract to build the failed Obamacare website" | [04:52] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 66 @ 0.00700777 = 0.4625 BTC [-] {4} | [04:53] |
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mircea_popescu | japan gets another 7.1 | [05:06] |
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mircea_popescu | http://rt.com/usa/nsa-site-ddos-attack-754/ | [05:16] |
dexX7 | @AnonymousOwn3r << this guy is a joke | [05:19] |
dexX7 | it's a wonder that he is still on the nets | [05:19] |
mircea_popescu | why ? nobody really goes after the jokers. | [05:20] |
dexX7 | hmhm.. i'm not sure what exactly the issue was, but do you remember when almost all godaddy related/hosted websites went black a year ago or so? | [05:23] |
mircea_popescu | vaguely | [05:23] |
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dexX7 | this was the time this guy popped up, claiming it was him, web news picked it up | [05:23] |
dexX7 | from that point on he claimed he was behind "everything" on the nets, but of course he wasn't | [05:24] |
dexX7 | people found his facebook account etc. where he was posting screenshots of his "operations" | [05:24] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5239 @ 0.00082487 = 4.3215 BTC [-] | [05:24] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [VTX] 1 @ 0.34 BTC [+] | [05:24] |
mircea_popescu | hm. | [05:25] |
dexX7 | http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/10/godaddy-outage-takes-down-millions-of-sites/ | [05:25] |
ozbot | GoDaddy Outage Takes Down Millions Of Sites, Anonymous Member Claims Responsibility | TechCrunch | [05:25] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, im sure the twitter in question is being run by some teen having fun, otherwise unrelated to anything | [05:26] |
dexX7 | haha yea | [05:26] |
bloctoc | go daddy down probably related to savetoby.com http://www.bobparsons.me/archive_article.php?entry_id=38 | [05:28] |
dexX7 | A man claims to have found an injured, young rabbit under a porch one day, and then nursed it back to health. He then named the rabbit Toby. This individual swears that he will have Toby butchered and served for dinner on June 30, 2005, unless he is able to raise $50,000 in donations or merchandise sales. | [05:32] |
KRS1 | clever | [05:33] |
KRS1 | he'll probably get it too | [05:33] |
bloctoc | The response from GoDaddy Founder: "I now own a SaveToby.com mouse pad" | [05:35] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 1000 @ 0.00114799 = 1.148 BTC [+] | [06:38] |
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* | Now talking on #bitcoin-assets | [18:46] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com - most days worth reading || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com - all days worth reading | [18:46] |
* | Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~kako@unaffiliated/kakobrekla at Sun Sep 29 03:06:59 2013 | [18:46] |
mike_c | hard to tell ;) | [18:46] |
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mircea_popescu | mike_c: | [18:50] |
mircea_popescu | can anybody do anything on mpex yet? i see trades on assbot, but nobody here seems to be able to talk to it (including me)? << atm proxies are dumping most of the input because they can't agree its valid | [18:50] |
mircea_popescu | being worked on | [18:50] |
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mike_c | k, thanks for update | [18:53] |
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mircea_popescu | jurov mod6 any of you want to try now ? | [18:54] |
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mircea_popescu | VanCleef you know, for a site that nobody uses i'm always surprised to see public channels notice any hickup a minute before or a minute after the tech people whose job it is. | [19:00] |
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[\] | mircea_popescu: don't feed the trolls. | [19:12] |
mircea_popescu | but i got all this spare food | [19:13] |
[\] | put it down the garbage disposal. | [19:13] |
[\] | It has the same equivalent. | [19:13] |
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KRS1 | moar | [19:16] |
mircea_popescu | $post MWhEZwxU | [19:21] |
mpexbot | mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/PA4D1dGZ | [19:21] |
mircea_popescu | i r insult. | [19:21] |
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dexX7 | mircea_popescu: did secondmarket ever contact you? | [19:56] |
mircea_popescu | i don't recall on the spot. what would this be about ? | [19:58] |
dexX7 | secondmarket.com/fund/bitcoin-investment-trust | [19:58] |
dexX7 | i heard they are looking for people with many coins | [19:58] |
dexX7 | i was just curious :) | [19:59] |
mircea_popescu | not afaik | [19:59] |
mircea_popescu | also it looks scammy as all fuck, what the hell is that ? | [19:59] |
dexX7 | it's not a scam | [19:59] |
mircea_popescu | how do you know this ? | [19:59] |
VanCleef | bitcoin is a scam so yeh its a scam | [20:00] |
dexX7 | hm i don't know what it is exactly, but it's a plattform for accredited investors. afaik some big companies like twitter were "traded" there | [20:00] |
mircea_popescu | no, i have specific things in mind. for instance, how come i can't find a name ion the about us page, | [20:00] |
mircea_popescu | but instead find a sales pitch intended for people with a financial iq corresponding to about the age of 15 ? | [20:00] |
mircea_popescu | and where's the finra etc regs. | [20:01] |
dexX7 | i don't know ;) | [20:01] |
mircea_popescu | and what are all those llcs being held by incs i never heard about. | [20:01] |
mircea_popescu | so yeah. now you know kinda how the mental process goes. | [20:01] |
mircea_popescu | and as far as to the "were traded there" : i can put up a website tomorrow which claims to be trading your mom. this does not imply anything about the actual lady's probity. | [20:02] |
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mircea_popescu | it just means some kid with a html editor was bored | [20:02] |
dexX7 | i'm just saying what i read and i have no reason to believe that it's not true | [20:02] |
dexX7 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SecondMarket | [20:03] |
mircea_popescu | no, see, this is the problem. you don;'t start by believing what you read is true, | [20:04] |
mircea_popescu | you start by believing what you read is false. | [20:04] |
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mircea_popescu | this isn't school. | [20:04] |
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dexX7 | fine, but how do i verify something then? | [20:05] |
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mircea_popescu | well that's where it gets complicated. give an actual example. | [20:05] |
VanCleef | mp will verify it for you | [20:05] |
mircea_popescu | lol that only works if you trust me. | [20:05] |
VanCleef | i only trust mp | [20:05] |
dexX7 | i can't trust what i read, so i can't trust mp obviously :p | [20:05] |
mircea_popescu | but i said "start". | [20:06] |
Kleeck_ | ROFL. | [20:06] |
Kleeck_ | THis is hilarious. | [20:06] |
Kleeck_ | TIL Secondmarket was written by "some kid with an html editor" | [20:07] |
Kleeck_ | http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/03/10/beyond-facebook-secondmarket-opens-its-doors-to-thousands/ | [20:07] |
Kleeck_ | It's a well known alt market. | [20:07] |
mircea_popescu | not secondmarket dood. | [20:10] |
mircea_popescu | some fund | [20:10] |
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Kleeck_ | Their ETF? | [20:11] |
zoinky | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SecondMarket | [20:11] |
mircea_popescu | it's their etf ? | [20:11] |
Kleeck_ | Yes. | [20:11] |
mircea_popescu | dude i gotta relook at this site now. | [20:11] |
Kleeck_ | Similar to the winklevi, but without the need for SEC approval. | [20:11] |
Kleeck_ | Because it's limited to accredited investors only. | [20:12] |
Kleeck_ | I read an article about it a month or two ago | [20:12] |
Kleeck_ | I'll find it. | [20:12] |
zoinky | secondmarket did privates stock for groupon, facebook and twitter | [20:12] |
zoinky | before they went public | [20:12] |
mircea_popescu | $25K | [20:12] |
mircea_popescu | Min. Investment | [20:12] |
mircea_popescu | 332 | [20:12] |
mircea_popescu | Days Left | [20:12] |
Kleeck_ | Here it is: http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2013/09/26/the-bitcoin-bug-bites-secondmarket/ | [20:12] |
mircea_popescu | seems to me it's some random item on their platform anyone could have created, much like the other "open platforms" of the sort | [20:12] |
Kleeck_ | Yeah. It's not for your everyday Joe. That's what the Winklevii are trying. | [20:12] |
pankkake | zoinky> secondmarket did privates stock for groupon, facebook and twitter <= so, scams | [20:13] |
Kleeck_ | ROFL | [20:13] |
zoinky | i guess so | [20:13] |
Kleeck_ | YES! The "scam" label has reached an all time low. | [20:13] |
zoinky | scams rule the world | [20:13] |
pankkake | companies who have no intention to make their investors richer would be a more explicit label ;) | [20:14] |
mircea_popescu | well what can i tell you. yes silbert is well known, no we've not talked, yes that fund looks dubious to me. | [20:14] |
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mircea_popescu | i guess judging by the site is a superficial approach to life. | [20:15] |
Kleeck_ | Sometimes I don't read book because the cover looks like shit. | [20:15] |
pankkake | people judge mpex by its appearance | [20:16] |
mircea_popescu | Kleeck_ i do that all the motherfucking time. i am fortunate to have people who love/hate me enough to insist on the topic. | [20:16] |
Kleeck_ | ^ | [20:16] |
mircea_popescu | in fact, i did *the exact same thing* about bitcoin, it took commebnters on my blog ~3 months to get me to look again | [20:16] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.8099 BTC [-] | [20:17] |
Kleeck_ | It help to have a circle of intelligent people that you respect. | [20:17] |
Kleeck_ | And who can be challenged and challenge you. | [20:17] |
Kleeck_ | Then when you say, "That's bullshit." They say, "No it isn't... Look at this!" | [20:18] |
mircea_popescu | o, people love to challenge me. because i'm such a snotty asshole see ? | [20:18] |
mircea_popescu | works out. | [20:18] |
Kleeck_ | :) | [20:18] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 992 @ 0.00788625 = 7.8232 BTC [+] {12} | [20:20] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 174 @ 0.00262074 = 0.456 BTC [-] {4} | [20:22] |
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mircea_popescu | (also, fb IS a motherfucking scam. not at all in the same sense, of course) | [20:25] |
dexX7 | next question: people on reddit say theymos is a scammer, why? | [20:29] |
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mircea_popescu | well, better question would be "why this time" i think | [20:29] |
mircea_popescu | at some point they were incensed about his reading pms on the forum, earlier about his poor manageemnt of forum donations, | [20:30] |
mircea_popescu | earlier about his promiting pirate, earluier about his glbse stock dealings, | [20:30] |
mircea_popescu | it's a list | [20:30] |
dexX7 | yeah, "this time" is about pirate again | [20:31] |
dexX7 | http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1p4shj/founder_reflects_on_the_closure_of_bitcoin_stock/ccyz2c4 | [20:31] |
mircea_popescu | a ok. many of these recur. | [20:31] |
ozbot | theymos comments on Founder reflects on the closure of Bitcoin stock exchange GLBSE | [20:31] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, you're too new to know, but the way glbse croaked was like this : theymos announced a private sale of his glbse stock (+ some aussie scammer's) | [20:32] |
mircea_popescu | a week later glbse just closed | [20:32] |
mircea_popescu | the girl accused him of insider dealing, he swore he didn't have a clue wtf nefario was doing | [20:32] |
mircea_popescu | the matter was dropped, as i believed him, | [20:33] |
dexX7 | was this before or after the "internal shareholder discussion2ß | [20:33] |
mircea_popescu | but it left a lot of animosity between them | [20:33] |
mircea_popescu | this was just about at that time | [20:33] |
dexX7 | ah okay | [20:33] |
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dexX7 | i remember very vague that many had "bitcoin doesn't care about the sec" or so in their signatures. was this after glbse? | [20:37] |
mircea_popescu | also, re the earlier discussion : sm is a marketplace for illiquid assets. it's not that it just magically gets past the hoops winklevoss have to jump through, it's a very specific thing | [20:37] |
mircea_popescu | lest some bright young mind reads the log and gets confused. | [20:38] |
mircea_popescu | right after. | [20:38] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 431 @ 0.00114799 = 0.4948 BTC [+] | [20:39] |
zoinky | http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1588489/000158848913000001/xslFormDX01/primary_doc.xml | [20:39] |
mircea_popescu | dexX7 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115693.msg1249126#msg1249126 | [20:40] |
zoinky | originally had 4 investors | [20:40] |
zoinky | wonder how the next quarterly report will look | [20:40] |
dexX7 | haha nice, i think i stumbled upon this topic last year | [20:41] |
mircea_popescu | pooled > other > not 40 | [20:41] |
dexX7 | well, they are already looking for investors as it seems. i filled out the "i'm interested form" and promptly received a mail with a request for a telephone call | [20:42] |
dexX7 | Total Amount Sold $2,542,818 USD | [20:42] |
mircea_popescu | i don't think they're doing anything bad, and heck, bitcoin can benefit from the attention of more people with financial expertise | [20:42] |
mircea_popescu | which these guys have | [20:42] |
mircea_popescu | so, good for them | [20:42] |
zoinky | exactly | [20:43] |
mircea_popescu | dexX7 that' | [20:43] |
mircea_popescu | s as of the time of filing, and they're unlimited. | [20:43] |
zoinky | helps break through to larger more traditional financial areas | [20:43] |
jurov | Mpex still not working? | [20:43] |
mircea_popescu | jurov working on it. | [20:43] |
mircea_popescu | if you have an emergency pm | [20:43] |
dexX7 | "failing last since 2011" should be corrected then, i guess :p | [20:44] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5005 @ 0.00080528 = 4.0304 BTC [+] | [20:44] |
kakobrekla | hey i have an emergency | [20:45] |
kakobrekla | im out of milk. | [20:45] |
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jurov | No emergency, just am away for whole day, getting alerts, wondering wtf is happening. | [20:46] |
jurov | Ok, checking off, later. | [20:47] |
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mircea_popescu | dexX7 haven't quite failed yet tyvm | [20:50] |
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mircea_popescu | kakobrekla http://www.peopleamazeme.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/PeopleAmazeMe_com-milk-sexy-babe-woman-oreo-hot-wet.jpg | [20:50] |
mircea_popescu | just for you. i think she's slovenian. | [20:50] |
kakobrekla | maybe, dirty enough, thats for sure. | [20:51] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [20:55] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.81 = 3.24 BTC [+] | [21:08] |
VanCleef | anyone into giving birth porn? | [21:12] |
mircea_popescu | that's porn !? | [21:14] |
asciilifeform | VanCleef: how's that work? 'see this astounding reverse penetration!' ? | [21:15] |
pankkake | you're surprised something is porn? | [21:15] |
VanCleef | a woman gives birth, and a guy comes in and does her | [21:16] |
asciilifeform | VanCleef: before? after? during? | [21:16] |
VanCleef | some real underground german shit | [21:16] |
pankkake | or fuck the baby and the mom! | [21:16] |
mircea_popescu | ow. | [21:16] |
mircea_popescu | today on tap, "postpartum and parenteral gangbang, dual penetration and bukkakke. come one, come all!" | [21:17] |
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pankkake | http://headfucking.net/headfucking.mpg btw | [21:18] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3539 @ 0.00080483 = 2.8483 BTC [-] {2} | [21:21] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.81 BTC [+] | [21:25] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 25 @ 0.0079 = 0.1975 BTC [+] | [21:44] |
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nubbins` | hi | [21:45] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 58 @ 0.008 = 0.464 BTC [+] | [21:47] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8242 @ 0.00080087 = 6.6008 BTC [-] {2} | [21:50] |
nubbins` | http://imgur.com/hR77muQ | [21:55] |
ozbot | imgur: the simple image sharer | [21:55] |
nubbins` | all ready for halloween :0 | [21:55] |
mircea_popescu | you look like a dork | [21:56] |
nubbins` | yep | [21:58] |
nubbins` | pascale's is way cooler | [21:58] |
nubbins` | http://imgur.com/LuwYXfs | [21:58] |
ozbot | imgur: the simple image sharer | [21:58] |
mircea_popescu | ha! | [22:00] |
mircea_popescu | pretty cool. who's that ? | [22:00] |
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nubbins` | just some random 70's cop | [22:00] |
mircea_popescu | ah | [22:00] |
nubbins` | she was going for a beastie boys "sabotage" kinda look | [22:00] |
mircea_popescu | yeah, even the tie. | [22:00] |
nubbins` | little bit less obscure than last year's costume of the 2 characters from a short film "umshini wam" | [22:02] |
nubbins` | which, if you're into odd things, is worth watching | [22:02] |
nubbins` | (http://www.wefearchange.com/wp-content/uploads/dieharmony.jpg) | [22:03] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.85 = 1.7 BTC [+] | [22:04] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 19 @ 0.86945156 = 16.5196 BTC [+] {5} | [22:19] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 5457 @ 0.00227336 = 12.4057 BTC [-] {22} | [22:22] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 2135 @ 0.002 = 4.27 BTC [-] {2} | [22:23] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.81100001 = 1.622 BTC [-] | [22:24] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 21 @ 0.82 = 17.22 BTC [+] | [22:29] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 1000 @ 0.00273609 = 2.7361 BTC [+] {5} | [22:41] |
jurov | .bait | [22:43] |
ozbot | http://24.media.tumblr.com/51afc7dbdbb57beacbbb88d88c0a8a84/tumblr_msthjhyh961rhwe3do1_400.gif | [22:43] |
jurov | dat | [22:43] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.85 = 17 BTC [+] | [22:46] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.87499999 = 7.875 BTC [+] {2} | [22:47] |
pankkake | nice | [22:47] |
KRS1 | Something told me to come over here and click that | [22:48] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.875 = 5.25 BTC [+] {2} | [22:48] |
KRS1 | nubbins: oh shit ZEF style | [22:49] |
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turbo_ac100_ | dieharmony.jpg That's Die Antwoord https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_pS46YRMIQ I didn't know there is a movie! | [22:52] |
KRS1 | My fav song/video they did is BABY'S ON FIRE. Fatty Boom Boom aint bad either | [22:52] |
KRS1 | he's good at BEAT BOX | [22:53] |
KRS1 | something is just...off...with that girl..idk wtf it is though. | [22:55] |
turbo_ac100_ | lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=f1KbfFdUTQ4#t=121 "If you don't like funerals don't kick sand into a ninjas' face" | [22:56] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 63 @ 0.00273898 = 0.1726 BTC [+] {2} | [23:04] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 144 @ 0.00114785 = 0.1653 BTC [-] | [23:11] |
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dexX7 | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=312830.msg3417014#msg3417014 | [23:21] |
ozbot | [CRYPTOSTOCKS] Labcoin Official Thread - Self-Moderated | [23:21] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 100 @ 0.00273896 = 0.2739 BTC [+] | [23:24] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B] [XBOND] 100 @ 0.00114799 = 0.1148 BTC [+] | [23:25] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.85 BTC [-] | [23:29] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 40 @ 0.00770005 = 0.308 BTC [-] | [23:29] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.85 = 1.7 BTC [-] | [23:31] |
pankkake | http://c4ss.org/content/22005 | [23:33] |
ozbot | Center for a Stateless Society » Internet Security Is Our Responsibility | [23:33] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 65 @ 0.0082 = 0.533 BTC [+] | [23:35] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [NEOBEE] 200 @ 0.002555 = 0.511 BTC [-] | [23:46] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [HIM] 2 @ 0.07459999 = 0.1492 BTC [-] | [23:51] |
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assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.8301 BTC [-] | [23:56] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 465 @ 0.00770001 = 3.5805 BTC [-] {3} | [23:57] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 1 @ 0.88 BTC [+] | [23:58] |
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