Forum logs for 26 Dec 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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pete_dushenski ;;later tell mod6 my pleasure and thanks for the correction. i was confusing december 19th entries, it seems. i've updated that section of the trb timeline accordingly. [00:31]
gribble The operation succeeded. [00:31]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform ben_vulpes et al. i also found an even ~earlier~ mention by mircea_popescu of the "0.6.x is the last useable version" line in the sand : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2014#499837 [00:33]
assbot Logged on 13-02-2014 03:43:52; mircea_popescu: the resultant mess is unusable past about 0.6.x or thereabouts, for these reasons. [00:33]
asciilifeform kakobrekla et al: zoolag is back. [00:33]
asciilifeform now with 4x the disk at 2x the speed. [00:34]
pete_dushenski shmancy [00:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8216 @ 0.00050996 = 4.1898 BTC [-] [00:37]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2015#1353165 << without reading it, lemme go out on a limb and hazard a guess that 'nudge tsar' cass sunstein is somehow involved. [00:39]
assbot Logged on 25-12-2015 21:13:38; ben_vulpes: http://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2015/10/obamas-effort-to-nudge-america-000276 << in which the department of statistics completely forgets about the challenges of untangling correlation from causation [00:39]
ben_vulpes and yet somehow trb forked from 0.5.3 [00:39]
* pete_dushenski unwraps present, finds that, indeed, sunstein is the rattle he heard in the box [00:40]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: pretty sure he brought it up in 2013 not long after i started reading [00:40]
asciilifeform 'Qt uses C++ with signals and slotsxiv to provide a cross-platform application framework for, essentially, illiterate amateurs.' << unfortunately this is not so [00:41]
asciilifeform it is the ~only~ remaining working cross-platform native-widget graphic lib for cpp. [00:42]
asciilifeform (there is/was also 'wx' but it is a shambles) [00:42]
pete_dushenski duly noted. [00:46]
pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: you know what version was actually released by the phoundation in june 2012, your requested vintage ? 0.6.3 [00:48]
pete_dushenski 0.5.3 was released in march 2012 [00:48]
ben_vulpes so? [00:49]
pete_dushenski https://bitcoin.org/en/release/v0.5.3 https://bitcoin.org/en/release/v0.6.3 [00:49]
assbot Bitcoin-Qt version 0.5.3 released ... ( http://bit.ly/1NPwG5I ) [00:49]
assbot Bitcoin-Qt version 0.6.3 released ... ( http://bit.ly/1NPwDH8 ) [00:49]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: i think pete_dushenski was trying to write a history of trb ? [00:50]
asciilifeform (premature, imho, but whatever) [00:50]
pete_dushenski bitcoin compresses time. [00:50]
pete_dushenski 1.25 years of development of trb is equivalent to multiples of that in row [00:51]
asciilifeform l0l [00:51]
ben_vulpes anyways, the point remains. mircea_popescu did not select 0.5.3 as the root fork point. [00:51]
asciilifeform does anybody else find it lulzy that there are actually 2 trb's ? [00:52]
ben_vulpes if you read the surrounding lines (http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-10-2014#885543, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-10-2014#885551, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-10-2014#885552) the technical nature of the question in question may become apparent. [00:52]
assbot Logged on 21-10-2014 00:20:11; mircea_popescu: https://codeload.github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/legacy.tar.gz/v0.6.3 etc [00:52]
assbot Logged on 21-10-2014 00:20:41; ben_vulpes: ya got it [00:52]
asciilifeform and the only fella who's seen both is mircea_popescu [00:52]
pete_dushenski one pdp, one unixbox [00:53]
asciilifeform (though who knows whether his phriendz who worked on mircea_popescucoin may also be lurking) [00:53]
ben_vulpes i'd love to hear how he got the mysterious, yes phriendz, rolled in. [00:53]
ben_vulpes mostly to dismiss my own hypotheses [00:54]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: they're prlly bound by omerta [00:54]
ben_vulpes well ofc [00:54]
pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: btw didja see the link to your summary of changes article ? [00:56]
ben_vulpes oh it /was/ in there the first time? [00:57]
pete_dushenski all along dude :) [00:57]
pete_dushenski who do you think i am ? [00:57]
ben_vulpes i saw material factual mistakes and kinda checked out. [00:57]
ben_vulpes did you include a link to my version of the same piece that you wrote? [00:58]
pete_dushenski mnope. that one has a larger breadth than contravex trb timleline part i could handle. maybe in part ii. [00:59]
pete_dushenski timeline* [01:00]
pete_dushenski oh and joyeux noel everyone ! [01:00]
ben_vulpes well don't get in the habit of failing to cite sources. [01:00]
pete_dushenski ok jewmom. [01:02]
pete_dushenski ;;ticker [01:05]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 447.33, Best ask: 447.45, Bid-ask spread: 0.12000, Last trade: 447.39, 24 hour volume: 16823.41469156, 24 hour low: 445.0, 24 hour high: 460.05, 24 hour vwap: None [01:05]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: another thing. the 'upgrade needed' message is distinct from the turdmeister alert [01:06]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: note that the former remains in place, http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp?v=asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option#0711 [01:08]
assbot Satoshi asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option/src/main.cpp ... ( http://bit.ly/1QNa3F9 ) [01:08]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: the latter was the gavinalert thing and i killed it long ago, yes [01:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46958 @ 0.00050996 = 23.9467 BTC [-] [01:13]
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pete_dushenski asciilifeform: for the slightly inept, what's the difference between gavinalert and upgradealert ? [01:16]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: read the link [01:17]
pete_dushenski "invalidchainfound" ? [01:17]
asciilifeform aha [01:17]
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ben_vulpes oh ffs whose idea was it to migrate from 'fpr' to something else in gnupg 2? [01:24]
asciilifeform fpr? [01:24]
ben_vulpes fingerprint. [01:24]
ben_vulpes --with-colons [01:24]
asciilifeform vs what [01:25]
ben_vulpes (which itself a magical hellhole of stupidity) [01:25]
ben_vulpes uid [01:25]
ben_vulpes it appears [01:25]
ben_vulpes ah no. nm. all my dumb ass. [01:26]
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phf paste text to b-a-paste, manually post url to log, unless post is in the logs, it's auto expired after n hours [01:28]
ben_vulpes more state, huh? [01:30]
phf yeah, basically requires you to periodically pull kako logs, but that does close the "open to mob" hole [01:32]
phf it's a pretty laid back option though, you're basically accepting as much third party crud as any regular paste service, but there's a gc that ties the whole thing to log, and culls the turds [01:34]
ben_vulpes notbad no [01:34]
assbot [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 750 @ 0.00240888 = 1.8067 BTC [+] {6} [01:46]
kakobrekla you gonna keep 100+ megs of logs to save up a few kbs of space? [01:49]
mircea_popescu phf iirc dpaste expire in a week anyway [01:50]
ben_vulpes you can get it to do up to a year [01:50]
kakobrekla by default, max is 1 year [01:50]
kakobrekla anyway space is cheap these days. [01:51]
mircea_popescu so it is. [01:52]
phf i think it's ascii's purity concern, rather then space as such. why host someone else's graffiti, etc. [01:52]
kakobrekla allocate 1% of the blockchain size and you are good for many years. [01:52]
mircea_popescu this all depends on usecase. [01:53]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353582 >> actually no, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2015#1353299 [01:54]
assbot Logged on 26-12-2015 04:48:32; phf: i think it's ascii's purity concern, rather then space as such. why host someone else's graffiti, etc. [01:54]
assbot Logged on 25-12-2015 23:15:12; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: part of the appeal of running a 'pastebin' ~is~ the crud dropped in by the mob. for instance, there is a long tradition of dropping 0days and leaked misc crud on pastebin. [01:54]
ben_vulpes this is an argument for filtering the seawter for gold. [01:55]
ben_vulpes seawater* [01:55]
kakobrekla and it makes the immutability depended on assbot [01:55]
kakobrekla dependent [01:55]
kakobrekla anyway off to bed. [01:55]
ben_vulpes wall scribblings meant for the ages should to into deedbot-, no? [01:56]
asciilifeform and phf's idea doesn't require any complex state [01:58]
asciilifeform every 24h cron greps the day's log for a link to the post, if doesn't find - deletes. [01:59]
asciilifeform and anyone can post. [01:59]
asciilifeform (if ~does~ find - copies to perma-dir) [01:59]
mircea_popescu "Realtime Worlds is the brainchild of Dave Jones, the creator of Lemmings and one of the few people who can claim legitimately to have been involved in the Grand Theft Auto series since the early days." [02:00]
mircea_popescu http://www.gamesbrief.com/2010/08/hubris-ambition-and-mismanagement-the-first-post-mortem-of-realtime-worlds/ [02:00]
assbot Hubris, ambition and mismanagement: the first post-mortem of RealTime Worlds - Gamesbrief - Gamesbrief ... ( http://bit.ly/1IuWIOM ) [02:00]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform how's that different from what we have now ? [02:00]
pete_dushenski "The only eyewitness identifications that I can find speak of three white men." http://www.unz.com/article/what-really-happened-in-san-bernardino/ << funny, y'know i also recall the early reports being "shooting by three white men in army fatigues" or some such. [02:00]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: we have no such thing now [02:00]
mircea_popescu assbot puts out the archive.is thing, if anyone cliocks that, permadir. [02:00]
mircea_popescu if nobody clicks, whatever. [02:00]
asciilifeform i can't pipe text into archive.is from a shell !! [02:00]
mircea_popescu again : you put the link in the log [02:01]
asciilifeform LINK [02:01]
mircea_popescu assbot creates the archive link [02:01]
asciilifeform we were, i think, talking about a 'pastebin' [02:01]
mircea_popescu ... [02:01]
asciilifeform where i can, e.g., './foo.pl | pastebinatron' and get a link [02:01]
mircea_popescu so ./foo.pl curl http://dpaste.com or w/e ? [02:02]
assbot dpaste: New ... ( http://bit.ly/1mj4FMJ ) [02:02]
asciilifeform aha but dpaste is lame [02:02]
asciilifeform because 1) not ours 2) not ours 3) mutilates text 4) idiot highlighting [02:02]
mircea_popescu ok so then ./foo.pl ssh-to-where-ascii-keeps-things [02:03]
asciilifeform no. [02:03]
mircea_popescu ... [02:03]
pete_dushenski http://www.unz.com/garellano/are-mexican-men-only-interested-in-having-sex-with-white-women/ << heh. >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=16-11-2015#1325393 [02:03]
assbot Are Mexican Men Only Interested in Having Sex with White Women? - The Unz Review ... ( http://bit.ly/1mj4JMm ) [02:03]
assbot Logged on 16-11-2015 21:44:59; pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: what about mexicans ? [02:03]
asciilifeform because i sure as fuck ain't pressing a hundred buttons [02:04]
mircea_popescu dude, just make nosuchlabs.com/pastes/ and pipe to there [02:04]
mircea_popescu what 100 buttons ? [02:04]
asciilifeform logins [02:04]
mircea_popescu so you want him to make you a login because you don't want to make your own login [02:04]
asciilifeform no. [02:04]
mircea_popescu and you want his login to not be a login [02:04]
mircea_popescu because wtf. [02:04]
asciilifeform public toilet. [02:04]
mircea_popescu so host a public toilet then [02:05]
asciilifeform i might, if nobody else does. [02:05]
mircea_popescu da fuck namby bs is this. [02:05]
* asciilifeform wasn't trying to make the point that this item is direly necessary, but that phf's scheme is specifically the correct answer [02:05]
mircea_popescu it is also specifically what we already have. [02:06]
asciilifeform because it doesn't multiply the work i have to do 100x !!! [02:06]
asciilifeform we don't have it [02:06]
asciilifeform unless mircea_popescu wrote it and told everyone but me [02:06]
mircea_popescu again. 1. put item wherever you want ; 2. put link in here ; 3. assbot creates the archival link ; 4. if anyone clicks it, it's permadired. if not, not. [02:06]
ben_vulpes for as long as archive.is continues to be a thing. [02:06]
asciilifeform the 'put wherever you want' IS A HUNDRED KEYPRESS OPERATION [02:07]
asciilifeform srsly [02:07]
mircea_popescu this is no different from "for as long as ben_vulpes' thing continues to be a thing", is it ? you're gonna commit your life to dpaste ? [02:07]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform only because you want a certain standard. and iuf you do, it will be whether you host it or he hosts it. [02:07]
mircea_popescu and if you don't, it's not, for him or for you. [02:07]
mircea_popescu why do you imagine other people eating involves less chewing than you eating ? [02:07]
asciilifeform what the fuck is so hard to understand about wanting a sane version of dpaste ? [02:08]
mircea_popescu again : if you want logins, it'll take logins. [02:08]
asciilifeform specifically addressing points 1-4 but otherwise identical. [02:08]
mircea_popescu if you want no-logins, you can make an anon ftp just as well [02:08]
asciilifeform no logins. just garbage collected. [02:08]
asciilifeform ftp doesn't pipe [02:08]
* mircea_popescu shrugs. this is nonsense [02:08]
mircea_popescu wtf ftp doesn't pipe. [02:08]
asciilifeform can't ./foo.pl | ftp ... [02:08]
mircea_popescu so fix your box then. [02:09]
asciilifeform this is esp. lulzy in light of earlier thread where mircea_popescu raged at the notion of having to use a tool to read a contract [02:09]
asciilifeform instead of naked telex [02:09]
mircea_popescu you want to read the ftp ? [02:09]
asciilifeform i want to ./foo | curl blah [02:10]
asciilifeform specificall. [02:10]
mircea_popescu ok so what's the problem ? [02:10]
mircea_popescu put a fucking form on nosuchlabs.com/pastes/ and curl-post to it. [02:10]
asciilifeform no specific problem. phf wrote down the solution. [02:10]
mircea_popescu sigh. [02:10]
asciilifeform (all that remains is for anybody to give a fuck and write proggy. i'm presently occupied.) [02:11]
mircea_popescu paste text to b-a-paste, manually post url to log, unless post is in the logs, it's auto expired after n hours << the. entirety. of. this. aready. exists. [02:12]
mircea_popescu jesus god. [02:12]
asciilifeform the saving part (archive.is) [02:12]
asciilifeform the pastebinatron that doesn't mutilate line endings does not presently exist [02:12]
asciilifeform (i'm not even certain that this is possible given browser) [02:13]
mircea_popescu ... [02:13]
mircea_popescu i gotta try this now. [02:13]
mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/3EK5TZH < [02:16]
assbot dpaste: 3EK5TZH ... ( http://bit.ly/1mj5mWl ) [02:16]
asciilifeform 00000000 66 69 72 73 74 20 6c 69 6e 65 0d 0a 73 65 63 6f |first line..seco| [02:17]
asciilifeform 00000010 6e 64 20 6c 69 6e 65 0d 0a 74 68 69 72 64 20 6c |nd line..third l| [02:17]
asciilifeform 00000020 69 6e 65 |ine| [02:17]
asciilifeform 0d 0a motherfuckerz [02:17]
asciilifeform 0d 0a. [02:17]
mircea_popescu $ curl http://dpaste.com/3EK5TZH.txt | hexdump [02:18]
mircea_popescu % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current [02:18]
mircea_popescu Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed [02:18]
mircea_popescu 0 35 0 35 0 0 92 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 179 [02:18]
mircea_popescu 0000000 6966 7372 2074 696c 656e 0a0d 6573 6f63 [02:18]
mircea_popescu 0000010 646e 6c20 6e69 0d65 740a 6968 6472 6c20 [02:18]
mircea_popescu 0000020 6e69 0065 [02:18]
mircea_popescu 0000023 [02:18]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1mj5oxq ) [02:18]
mircea_popescu fix your box. [02:18]
asciilifeform 0a0d << i'll fix mine when you discover how to fix yours ? [02:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54750 @ 0.00051015 = 27.9307 BTC [+] [02:19]
asciilifeform or anybody's... [02:19]
asciilifeform use hexdump -C [02:19]
mircea_popescu 740a 6968 [02:19]
mircea_popescu 0a! [02:19]
mircea_popescu first one's 0d0a. 2nd one's 0a. [02:20]
mircea_popescu which is what i put in there. /r/n ; /n [02:20]
asciilifeform $ curl http://dpaste.com/3EK5TZH.txt | hexdump -C [02:20]
asciilifeform [snipped crud] [02:20]
asciilifeform 00000000 66 69 72 73 74 20 6c 69 6e 65 0d 0a 73 65 63 6f |first line..seco| [02:20]
asciilifeform 00000010 6e 64 20 6c 69 6e 65 0d 0a 74 68 69 72 64 20 6c |nd line..third l| [02:20]
asciilifeform 00000020 69 6e 65 |ine| [02:20]
phf nah, your hex dump is doing byte order rearrangement [02:20]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1mj5oxq ) [02:20]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: post your hexdump -C plz [02:21]
mircea_popescu da fuck is this shit ?! [02:21]
mircea_popescu hexdump -C is like yours. [02:21]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: you're dumping in native-endian word [02:21]
asciilifeform so you got mangled [02:21]
mircea_popescu how the everloving fuck am i getting different byte counts [02:21]
phf 0d65 740a are the relevant bits [02:21]
mircea_popescu oh [02:22]
mircea_popescu o brother [02:22]
mircea_popescu dude does this shit even work ? [02:22]
ben_vulpes ahuehuaheauhuaehu [02:22]
asciilifeform hexdump most certainly worx. [02:22]
* asciilifeform lives and dies by it [02:22]
asciilifeform -C presents bytez in actual arithmetical order (0..N) [02:23]
mircea_popescu mk, this requires more experiments. [02:23]
ben_vulpes i couldn't rule out curl hosing my experiments, mircea_popescu [02:23]
ben_vulpes have fun [02:23]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: y'know, let's telnet [02:23]
mircea_popescu i didn't mean by me. [02:23]
ben_vulpes yes asciilifeform telnet let's go [02:23]
mircea_popescu i've had it. two hexdumps. for the love of chrissakes. [02:24]
ben_vulpes for what its worth emacs' eww was the most reliable tool for finding wacky line endings [02:24]
ben_vulpes which SHOULD NOT BE THE CASE omg [02:24]
mircea_popescu 6e69 0065 vs 69 6e 65 [00] [02:25]
mircea_popescu nuts already. [02:25]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: use -C always [02:25]
asciilifeform unless you are doing something exotic [02:25]
mircea_popescu "does this shit even work" was, for the record, a very general inquiry. [02:25]
mircea_popescu the answer is reallynot. [02:26]
ben_vulpes and in the general case, no. [02:26]
mircea_popescu fancy that it'd split one word but not the other, also. what a spicy adventure. [02:27]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform i still dunno how you figure someone ELSE is going to implement this thing for you, but anyway. [02:28]
asciilifeform nah i don't expect anybody to implement it. [02:29]
asciilifeform i may or may not get around to it. [02:29]
mircea_popescu for one thing it doesn't even seem it can be over web. it'll have to be actual files sftp'd or something. [02:29]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: nobody split your word! [02:29]
asciilifeform you're seeing word boundaries [02:29]
asciilifeform as in machine word [02:29]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform that's whatg i mean. [02:29]
asciilifeform use -C plox [02:29]
mircea_popescu it just so happened that the boundary split the 0a from the 0d in the 2nd case but not in the first, so as to appear matching what i put in there. [02:30]
mircea_popescu this was one of 4 possible rolls of that dice. [02:30]
asciilifeform put more - or fewer - letters, you'll see different split [02:30]
mircea_popescu of course. [02:30]
asciilifeform it is artifact of your byte count [02:30]
mircea_popescu still, 1:4 odds for it to fall this way. [02:30]
asciilifeform nothing to do with what happened over the net. it is dirt on your lens. [02:30]
mircea_popescu i know this! [02:31]
asciilifeform ok [02:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18183 @ 0.00050996 = 9.2726 BTC [-] [02:31]
mircea_popescu curl http://dpaste.com/2116EDR.txt | hexdump for instance does it the other way. [02:32]
mircea_popescu etc [02:32]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1mj66e1 ) [02:32]
phf (drakma:http-request (concatenate 'string (cdr (assoc :location (nth-value 2 (drakma:http-request "http://dpaste.com/api/v2/" :method :post :parameters `(("content" . ,(concatenate 'string "foo" '(#Newline) "bar"))))))) ".txt") :force-binary t) [02:33]
phf #(66 6F 6F A 62 61 72) [02:33]
phf so it's the posting tool's problem [02:34]
asciilifeform url plz ? [02:34]
asciilifeform (of the posted payload) [02:34]
phf http://dpaste.com/3WF7P5P.txt [02:35]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1mj6byg ) [02:35]
mircea_popescu lo and behold. [02:35]
mircea_popescu i get what he gets. [02:35]
asciilifeform $ curl http://dpaste.com/3WF7P5P.txt | hexdump -C [02:35]
asciilifeform [snip] [02:35]
asciilifeform 00000000 66 6f 6f 0a 62 61 72 |foo.bar| [02:35]
asciilifeform aha [02:35]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1mj6byg ) [02:35]
mircea_popescu dude, did phf just fix our boxen ? [02:35]
asciilifeform posted without browser [02:35]
mircea_popescu i posted with curl [02:36]
mircea_popescu !rated phf [02:36]
asciilifeform curl apparently also retarded [02:36]
assbot You rated user phf on 24-Jun-2015, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: Well read gent in search of a handler. Bureaucrats and mustachioed young ladies apply within.. [02:36]
mircea_popescu !rate phf 2 Fixed our boxen! [02:36]
assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/c07a32caa47b77e8 [02:36]
mircea_popescu !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.phf.2:50fd9856def1d11892a93952e0dcb21fb8e94057c701db179205a63d866654be [02:36]
assbot Successfully updated the rating for phf from 2 to 2 with note: Fixed our boxen! [02:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43200 @ 0.00050964 = 22.0164 BTC [-] {2} [02:36]
* asciilifeform recalls the great newline warz, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2014#901002 [02:37]
assbot Logged on 29-10-2014 01:24:18; nubbins`: CLRF IS THE STANDARD NEWLINE [02:37]
mircea_popescu lmao [02:37]
mircea_popescu o wait he was kidding ? i r disappoint. [02:38]
ben_vulpes .net jokes [02:38]
* mircea_popescu just realised that in spite of not having a clue he was actually FUCKING RIGHT [02:38]
mircea_popescu i hope it burns, alf! [02:38]
asciilifeform burnz like sunshine (tm) (r) [02:38]
asciilifeform so anybody know the magical --disable-retardation flag for curl ? [02:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81862 @ 0.00050801 = 41.5867 BTC [-] {3} [02:42]
ben_vulpes not i [02:44]
phf what does that produce? curl -s `printf 'foox0abar'|curl -s -F "content=<-" http://dpaste.com/api/v2/`.txt|xxd [02:44]
assbot Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1mj6qJN ) [02:44]
phf asciilifeform: ^- [02:45]
asciilifeform 0000000: 666f 6f0a 6261 72 foo.bar [02:46]
asciilifeform but this doesn't crap out the url [02:46]
phf well, that's the relevant posting bit echo foo|curl -s -F "content=<-" http://dpaste.com/api/v2/ [02:47]
assbot The dpaste API, version 2 ... ( http://bit.ly/1OryrLX ) [02:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26859 @ 0.00051015 = 13.7021 BTC [+] [02:52]
ben_vulpes http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353741 << if i'm reading this thread correctly, this problem is directly traceable to tools used to jam ascii into dpaste.com et al? [03:08]
assbot Logged on 26-12-2015 05:25:36; mircea_popescu: for one thing it doesn't even seem it can be over web. it'll have to be actual files sftp'd or something. [03:08]
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mircea_popescu yes. [03:08]
asciilifeform !s 0a [03:09]
assbot 15 results for '0a' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=0a [03:09]
ben_vulpes "For historical reasons, the element's value is normalised in three different ways for three different purposes." [03:10]
ben_vulpes oh ho god no [03:10]
asciilifeform hysterical raisins (tm) (r) (orlov) [03:11]
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ben_vulpes Finally, there is the form submission value. It is normalized so that line breaks use U+000D CARRIAGE RETURN U+000A LINE FEED (CRLF) character pairs [03:12]
ben_vulpes fuck this [03:12]
ben_vulpes crlf is in the fucking spec?! [03:12]
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asciilifeform nubbins` did warn. [03:13]
mircea_popescu !up ith [03:13]
-assbot- You voiced ith for 30 minutes. [03:13]
* assbot gives voice to ith [03:13]
ith What year is it, please? [03:13]
mircea_popescu U+ bs ?! [03:13]
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ben_vulpes the year of microsft's victory, apparently ith. [03:13]
ith Sorry :( [03:14]
mircea_popescu there is no U+000D. it's x0d [03:14]
ith Hmm [03:14]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: x0d in the land of man; u+000d in zimbabwe, in the trees [03:14]
ith Has anyone figured out a way to do Windows 10 without being spied on? [03:14]
ben_vulpes !down ith [03:15]
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mircea_popescu !down ahnm [03:15]
mircea_popescu wtf is this. [03:15]
asciilifeform ith: yes. you stoke furnace with it [03:15]
asciilifeform meowmix! [03:15]
ben_vulpes excuse me? [03:15]
asciilifeform !s meowmix [03:15]
assbot 63 results for 'meowmix' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=meowmix [03:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35977 @ 0.00050726 = 18.2497 BTC [-] [03:15]
ben_vulpes no, the auth timeout. [03:15]
asciilifeform ahaha lol [03:15]
ben_vulpes what is it? 24 hours? [03:16]
* asciilifeform always regarded the timeout as a bug [03:16]
ben_vulpes assbot doesn't even give me a useful complaint. [03:16]
ben_vulpes interface isn't precisely self-consistent, no. [03:16]
asciilifeform aha it just silently pisses on you [03:16]
ben_vulpes yes. [03:16]
ben_vulpes like everything tonight. [03:16]
ben_vulpes fuck computers [03:16]
ben_vulpes i am going to go do the dishes, rageclean, watch a movie and bask in the cutefield. [03:17]
asciilifeform i'ma go an' read more maslennikov [03:17]
asciilifeform best autobio ever [03:17]
asciilifeform odd chapters sov collapse politics; even #'d chapters - theorems [03:17]
asciilifeform re: block & stream cipher analysis [03:17]
asciilifeform UNPUBLISHED ELSEWHERE [03:17]
asciilifeform i can see why no dead tree house agreed to print this [03:18]
asciilifeform it'd sell... 5 copies [03:18]
* asciilifeform bbl [03:18]
BingoBoingo line 11 in therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20151225/ban_aws_crud_3755a8bb0800aa9ec6fdb5f840e67d6cca4ac5cc.sh returns nekkin ip addresses/ranges right? [03:19]
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pete_dushenski let [03:33]
pete_dushenski let's try this russian thing : [03:33]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2015#1353372 << "Politruk - a hero of the Soviet Union. You have an empty belly." [03:33]
assbot Logged on 25-12-2015 23:57:14; asciilifeform: http://www.sovunion.info/posters/listovky/200.jpg << same [03:33]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2015#1353374 << "How is the Politruk doing - as he's pulling down the branch." [03:34]
assbot Logged on 25-12-2015 23:57:32; asciilifeform: http://www.sovunion.info/posters/listovky/199.jpg << ditto [03:34]
pete_dushenski !s politruk [03:34]
assbot 3 results for 'politruk' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=politruk [03:34]
pete_dushenski heh. s/ those translations. [03:35]
pete_dushenski obv. [03:35]
pete_dushenski asciilifeform: when would you date these 'german leaflets' ? ^ [03:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00050605 = 8.8053 BTC [+] [03:37]
pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353478 << how very affirmative :P [03:40]
assbot Logged on 26-12-2015 01:11:01; thestringpuller: 'in the dark, all cats are black' (tm) (r) << or as the negros sometime say. All pussy feels the same with the lights out. [03:40]
pete_dushenski speaking of affirmative... http://www.contravex.com/2015/12/16/its-not-your-outgoing-us-presidents-fault-hes-a-dumb-monkey-its-affirmative-actions/#comment-37892 [03:45]
assbot It’s not your outgoing US President’s fault he’s a dumb monkey, it’s affirmative action’s. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1OrAqzZ ) [03:45]
pete_dushenski !s fred reed [03:45]
assbot 5 results for 'fred reed' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=fred+reed [03:45]
pete_dushenski thought it rang a bell [03:46]
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punkman http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/27/business/dealbook/the-unsung-tax-agent-who-put-a-face-on-the-silk-road.html [04:15]
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assbot Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oeh9QA ) [04:15]
punkman "unsung tax agent" lol [04:16]
pete_dushenski if that doesn't make you swoon... [04:18]
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mats I thought of pete_dushenski this fine xmas [04:19]
mats chinese people and jews have a couple things in common, including enjoying chinese meals during xmas [04:20]
pete_dushenski don't forget to cite ben_vulpes too ;/ [04:21]
mats i had no idea [04:22]
* BingoBoingo successully blocked AWS from port 8333 [04:22]
mats although mebbe that fro should've been a giveaway [04:22]
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mats anyway, am in the silly valley and wtf its colder here than boston [04:25]
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mats http://arxiv.org/abs/1512.06808 [04:33]
assbot [1512.06808] Game Theory (Open Access textbook with 165 solved exercises) ... ( http://bit.ly/1OeiHKm ) [04:33]
pete_dushenski mats: well, this christmas you can be thankful that you don't have to contest with other chinese doods in b-a for that little niche (yes, there are niches in b-a, as anywhere else). [04:38]
pete_dushenski ben_vulpes and i, for example, have waaaay too much in common (similar age, young families, upbringing, even geography's not ~that~ far off), which i'm pretty sure is what leads to our sometimes curt and unproductive tete-a-tetes de temps en temps as we struggle to tease one apart from the other. [04:38]
pete_dushenski thankfully, he leaps ahead of me in coding and rockets (and other things) while i take the lead in, i dunno, travel writing or something, or else no one would be able to keep us straight. [04:39]
BingoBoingo I think ben_vulpes might even beat pete_dushenski in the fast cars department now. [04:39]
pete_dushenski mats: being the token chinese dood isn't a terrible spot. [04:40]
mats lol [04:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00050531 = 4.1435 BTC [-] [04:41]
pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: i've only ever had one fast car, and it grated on my nerves 98% of the time as 98% of my driving is under 60 kph. [04:41]
BingoBoingo I dunno, maybe leave the city every now and then? [04:41]
pete_dushenski that's what airplanes are for. [04:41]
punkman just need a carplane [04:42]
pete_dushenski ;;buy 1 carplane 1 btc inquire within [04:42]
gribble Error: For identification purposes, you must be identified via GPG to use the order book. [04:42]
deedbot- [Qntra] Warning: "Escrow Service" Goes On Sale - http://qntra.net/2015/12/warning-escrow-service-goes-on-sale/ [04:45]
BingoBoingo What if you need to go to random farm or mudhole? how many of those have aeroports? [04:45]
mats anyways, time to turn it in so I can get an early start on http://eudyptula-challenge.org [04:45]
assbot The Eudyptula Challenge ... ( http://bit.ly/1NGu6kx ) [04:45]
pete_dushenski mats: gl [04:46]
pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: one word : osprey [04:46]
BingoBoingo Aren't they notorious for killing their entire crew and cargo? [04:46]
mats first challenge is too easy: print hallo world to kernel debug log [04:46]
mats have a good one, folks. [04:47]
pete_dushenski BingoBoingo: that's what makes them fun ! only a true hero would get behind the wheel of their own personal osprey [04:47]
BingoBoingo You mean only An Hero [04:47]
pete_dushenski ^ [04:47]
BingoBoingo ;;ud an hero [04:48]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=an+hero | an hero. To commit suicide, regardless of how stupid the reason is or is not. Someone stole Mitchell's iPod, so he became an hero. by 4chananonymous ... [04:48]
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* pete_dushenski to lessing. and bed. [04:49]
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punkman http://en.qi-hardware.com/w/images/7/78/Nano_cola.jpg [04:50]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1NGujo2 ) [04:50]
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punkman http://xkcd.com/1621/ [05:01]
assbot xkcd: Fixion ... ( http://bit.ly/1OekPSi ) [05:02]
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deedbot- [cascadian hacker] [UPDATE] WOTPASTE changes - http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/12/26_update-wotpaste-changes.html [05:36]
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BingoBoingo AHA I FOUND THE REAL JUNIPER VILLIAN [07:15]
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BingoBoingo how did I miss this turdbaggery previously [07:16]
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jurov omg dat log... s/pastebin/bikeshed/ [08:12]
BingoBoingo lol [08:18]
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mircea_popescu ben_vulpes> i am going to go do the dishes, rageclean, watch a movie and bask in the cutefield. <<< https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf0oXY4nDxE [08:34]
assbot Aerosmith - Dude (Looks Like A Lady) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1mjjmiX ) [08:34]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform> it'd sell... 5 copies << yeah, but catnip for some people :D [08:34]
mircea_popescu jurov keep going, eventually we figure out we actually don't need it. over alf's dead body. [08:35]
deedbot- [Qntra] Juniper Fiasco: Greenwald Complicit In Sustaining Mass Surveillance - http://qntra.net/2015/12/juniper-fiasco-greenwald-complicit-in-sustaining-mass-surveillance/ [08:38]
BingoBoingo ^ Further deeper takes on the Juniper thing are prolly welcome [08:40]
mircea_popescu "unsung tax agent" lol <<< "inexplicably, one of like five or six people DIDNT actually turn. at least so far. at least as far as we know. we're not really sure. DEMOCRACY PREVAILS!" [08:42]
BingoBoingo Latest qntra also has picture of Greenwald [08:42]
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mircea_popescu nb. [08:43]
BingoBoingo didn't turn that they know of [08:43]
BingoBoingo But of course the tax office would select for the most blindly loyal to the fiat [08:43]
mircea_popescu mats> anyway, am in the silly valley and wtf its colder here than boston <<< something about how global warming rearranges hot streams and whatnot. #totally-not-random-climatic-noise [08:44]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo either that or the most stolidly boring. [08:44]
mircea_popescu but hey, one day he wants to be a lion tamer. [08:44]
BingoBoingo Is there a difference [08:44]
mircea_popescu in other news, dear chan, allow me to introduce... the blue footed booby. http://cdn.earthporm.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/blue-footed-booby.jpg [08:47]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1mjjP4x ) [08:47]
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BingoBoingo http://www.increasinglyadequate.com/macppc.html [09:17]
assbot OpenBSD 5.8 on a 1999 iMac G3 (iMac,1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1OexIvD ) [09:17]
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shinohai ;;ticker --market all [11:08]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 421.0, vol: 18540.70965603 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 417.811, vol: 10636.5393 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 420.03, vol: 64565.92399074 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 421.21, vol: 0.28972837 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 416.138359, vol: 119160.49820000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 419.03254, vol: 81.58782921 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 422.576, vol: 85.40752718 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) [11:09]
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asciilifeform ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/06339V3 ( https://cryptome.org/2015/12/nsl-under-seal-026-030.pdf ) re: 'national security letters', interesting record of failed resistance through litigation [12:26]
gribble The operation succeeded. [12:26]
assbot dpaste: 06339V3: LORETTA E. LYNCH, Attorney General v. UNDER SEAL ... ( http://bit.ly/1VjGoSR ) [12:26]
mircea_popescu ola ? [12:26]
asciilifeform aha! thar he is [12:27]
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asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353859 << terrible translation. correct one: 'every politruk you see - hoist him high into a tree' [12:28]
assbot Logged on 26-12-2015 06:30:22; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2015#1353374 << "How is the Politruk doing - as he's pulling down the branch." [12:28]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353876 << so cheap is the octopus ink, but so laughably transparent - this idiocy is supposed to make folks forget about the tor 0day ? [12:30]
assbot Logged on 26-12-2015 07:11:38; punkman: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/27/business/dealbook/the-unsung-tax-agent-who-put-a-face-on-the-silk-road.html [12:30]
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mircea_popescu "UNOPPOSED MOTION FOR PARTIAL UNSEALING" seems successful enough [12:31]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: but in a very laughable sense where we DON'T learn the identity of the victim OR anything pertinent re: why he was picked [12:32]
asciilifeform so they unsealed... what? a portion of the boilerplate... [12:33]
asciilifeform this is usg's way of laughing [12:33]
mircea_popescu i have no fucking idea why the victims actually go along with this charade. [12:33]
mircea_popescu oh, you got a gag order ? ha-ha. heres' the website with the material published. [12:33]
asciilifeform vs what? take a pen and poke a policeman ? [12:33]
mircea_popescu watchagonnado. [12:33]
asciilifeform 20 yrs to life ? [12:34]
mircea_popescu yarly ? [12:34]
asciilifeform (ianal) [12:34]
mircea_popescu "the hackers stole it" [12:34]
asciilifeform stole a snail mail ? [12:34]
mircea_popescu why snail mail specifically ? [12:35]
mircea_popescu "i was keeping backups in the cloud". [12:35]
asciilifeform iirc these are typically delivered as snail mail, victim signs for package [12:36]
mircea_popescu these whats ? [12:36]
asciilifeform 'nsl' [12:36]
* mircea_popescu shrugs. [12:36]
mircea_popescu they can stand on their fucking head. [12:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41284 @ 0.00050822 = 20.9814 BTC [-] {3} [12:37]
asciilifeform anyway linked document solely because it appears to contain citations to case law [12:37]
asciilifeform in case anyone can be bothered [12:37]
asciilifeform but i don't know very many people who give half a fuck re: nazi case law today [12:38]
asciilifeform and so it goes for usg's. [12:38]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353958 << mega-l0l, more or less same conclusion as my experience with toshiba libretto in '14 [12:40]
assbot Logged on 26-12-2015 12:13:51; BingoBoingo: http://www.increasinglyadequate.com/macppc.html [12:40]
asciilifeform 'Running Firefox on this machine to browse "modern," Javascript-heavy sites is an excercise in frustration; the 2015 version of CNN.com basically freezes Firefox for 30 seconds or more.' [12:40]
mircea_popescu o.O [12:41]
asciilifeform and it is fine to say 'use lynx.' so i did. but turns out that you CAN'T GET the box running 'as if it was 2004' when my libretto happily ran freebsd with no lag [12:42]
asciilifeform (because the src packages are no longer available) [12:42]
mircea_popescu kinda why we gotta shrinkwrap and deedbot [12:43]
asciilifeform aha [12:43]
asciilifeform i loved that machine. it fit in a motherfucking coat pocket [12:43]
asciilifeform you can't buy this now, for any amount of money [12:43]
asciilifeform because it wasn't a 'shitbook', had decent display and usable (if with 8 fingers) keyboard [12:44]
asciilifeform cost something like 6K usd in '97. [12:44]
asciilifeform http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353919 << this is a famously unobtainable gadget. (of questionable utility, also. just try pressing those keys) [12:47]
assbot Logged on 26-12-2015 07:46:34; punkman: http://en.qi-hardware.com/w/images/7/78/Nano_cola.jpg [12:47]
asciilifeform i tried for some years to find a vendor, then gave up [12:47]
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punkman asciilifeform: saw an indian company that's supposedly shipping, ~$60 [12:49]
punkman I'd really like something around that size [12:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53700 @ 0.00050457 = 27.0954 BTC [-] [12:56]
jurov looks like my xperia mini pro (sadly no longer working) [13:02]
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jurov !t m f.mpif [13:15]
assbot How can I be of assistance, my poor man? [13:15]
jurov !mpif [13:15]
assbot BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021522 B (Total: 427.60 B). Delta: -0.79 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000209 BTC [-] [13:15]
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asciilifeform punkman, jurov: i have a similar device, 'zipit' [13:16]
asciilifeform http://linux.zipitwireless.com [13:16]
assbot ZipitForge - Trac ... ( http://bit.ly/1mjzYad ) [13:16]
asciilifeform http://chainxor.org/openwrt-zipit/zipit-openwrt.jpg << looks like this. [13:17]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1mjzZLl ) [13:17]
asciilifeform and virtually useless [13:17]
asciilifeform (even if you can find something that runs tolerably on it) [13:17]
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pete_dushenski http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353977 << cheers. and when would these have been from ? wwii ? [13:36]
assbot Logged on 26-12-2015 15:24:52; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353859 << terrible translation. correct one: 'every politruk you see - hoist him high into a tree' [13:36]
asciilifeform pete_dushenski: ww2, almost certainly in the blitzkrieg phase [13:36]
pete_dushenski makes sense [13:36]
asciilifeform german authorship, if it isn't obvious [13:36]
pete_dushenski it is ! [13:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60143 @ 0.0005079 = 30.5466 BTC [+] [13:37]
jurov lol i'm sure actual germans needed not do anything beyond approval [13:39]
asciilifeform jurov: these were leaflets dropped by germany at the front [13:40]
asciilifeform there were analogous ones everywhere [13:40]
jurov aok [13:40]
mircea_popescu iffy thing. bout half the politruks were popular. [13:43]
mircea_popescu trotsky was one. [13:43]
asciilifeform aha [13:43]
asciilifeform one reason why sometimes popular, is that it was a parallel vertical [13:43]
asciilifeform or whatever this is called today [13:43]
mircea_popescu on occasion worked like a sort of "army union" [13:44]
asciilifeform y'know, sorta like the church in the old days [13:44]
shinohai node behaviour is much improved today asciilifeform ty [13:44]
asciilifeform separate hierarchy [13:44]
mircea_popescu had to, after the nonsense of "soviets" that destroyed russia's fighting capacity in ww1 [13:44]
asciilifeform shinohai: aha! they can breathe! and many more interesting folks connected: cn, ru, etc [13:44]
asciilifeform shinohai: enjoy the clean air, while it lasts, eventually the crap artists will find proxies outside aws [13:45]
shinohai :/ [13:47]
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mircea_popescu actually discouraging adoption among the welfare horde is probably very useful for bitcoin. it's quite clear that adding nato reich puppets is a marginal loss per capita by now. [13:54]
asciilifeform Быдло, в стойло ! (tm) (r) [13:55]
asciilifeform (roughly, cattle - straight to the stalls!) [13:55]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51114 @ 0.00050956 = 26.0456 BTC [+] {2} [14:06]
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shinohai http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-12-25/argentinas-outgoing-president-has-refused-give-her-official-twitter-account <<< KEK [14:15]
assbot Argentina's outgoing president has refused to give up her official Twitter account | Public Radio International ... ( http://bit.ly/1PoWzMp ) [14:15]
thestringpuller good morning [14:16]
pete_dushenski thestringpuller: mornin' ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epw0J45X-FI [14:17]
asciilifeform 'And in this one, she complains of an imminent “devaluation” in January, which would leave workers poorer.' << ahahaha [14:17]
assbot The Niggar Family | Chappelle's Show - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1PoWJDB ) [14:17]
asciilifeform ( see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1345987 ) [14:18]
assbot Logged on 18-12-2015 02:21:17; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1345983 << whatever happened to sov ruble-style devaluations ? [14:18]
thestringpuller pete_dushenski: That episode is so funny. Classic. "Look at suzie's baby. She's got them niggar lips!" [14:18]
pete_dushenski thestringpuller: lol and "i don't want our daughter dating some niggar boy" [14:19]
pete_dushenski "not A niggar, THE niggars" [14:19]
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pete_dushenski "In this tweet, she implies that the new government is guilty of nepotism," << ism-istas ! get 'em boys ! [14:22]
pete_dushenski what wot ? everyone should have a chance to be top gov officials ! even the homeless bums ! [14:22]
shinohai lol [14:23]
pete_dushenski because homeless bums and black doods who've never been beaten know what's best for this country. [14:23]
pete_dushenski ;;ticker [14:26]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 407.0, Best ask: 408.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 407.1, 24 hour volume: 78611.5073499, 24 hour low: 405.5, 24 hour high: 460.05, 24 hour vwap: None [14:26]
pete_dushenski boxing day sale ! [14:26]
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pete_dushenski or children selling their btc to buy half-priced winter jackets and... air conditioners [14:27]
pete_dushenski y'know, for the global warming [14:27]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu et al: maslennikov has a lulzy chapter on how rng for key generation was done (late '80s, imported 'pc xt' in kgb, but no trng naturally). answer: chix playing 'tetris' [14:33]
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thestringpuller i had a realization today. i would rather bitcoin be plagued with scammers so the idiot "experts" who seem to know what is best for bitcoin would get scammed. [14:53]
asciilifeform usg 'expertz' have approximately as much to fear from sc4mz0rz as mountain from mosquitoes [14:55]
jurov what? hasn't that happened already? [14:55]
asciilifeform (it isn't as if the money they spent were their own, or its supply - finite) [14:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00050597 = 4.4019 BTC [+] {2} [14:56]
thestringpuller asciilifeform: i'm not talking about usg 'expertz' i'm taling about d00d who lives in his mom's basement rent-free 'expert' who is able to convince 1000 other lemmings he is an expert. [14:57]
thestringpuller at least if they got scammed you wouldn't have to worry about them. [14:57]
asciilifeform wai wut [14:57]
asciilifeform i had to worry about them ?? [14:57]
asciilifeform let the rats feed on the rats. [14:58]
thestringpuller i guess not. point taken. [14:58]
thestringpuller I would rather have the rats exterminated tho! [14:58]
thestringpuller Is there no rat poison in BTC? [14:58]
asciilifeform vermin are thermodynamically inevitable [14:59]
punkman http://www.pandorawiki.org/images/Pandora1ghz.png this is pretty close to a better nanonote, but not for sale anywhere [15:06]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1R1l7Nk ) [15:06]
punkman its successor doesn't look bad either https://www.pyra-handheld.com/wiki/index.php?title=Dragonbox_Pyra [15:07]
assbot Dragonbox Pyra - Pyra Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1R1ld7r ) [15:07]
jurov dunno. one can have n900 with similar specs and broken modem for free [15:08]
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mats http://siliconpr0n.org/archive/doku.php?id=azonenberg:butterflylabs:bfsc100f144 [15:38]
thestringpuller I hate this chart http://imgur.com/jLnrOuK [15:41]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27290 @ 0.00050316 = 13.7312 BTC [+] [16:32]
jurov thestringpuller: why? [16:36]
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thestringpuller cause people draw causation from correlations when that's dumb [16:36]
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asciilifeform punkman, jurov: i can't speak for other folks, but i learned that i fucking hate thumb keyboardz [16:47]
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thestringpuller http://nautil.us/blog/chernobyls-hot-mess-the-elephants-foot-is-still-lethal << whoa [16:52]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48957 @ 0.000503 = 24.6254 BTC [-] {3} [16:56]
asciilifeform look forward to more cia-mole 'stress tests' at ukr power stations. [16:58]
asciilifeform see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=24-12-2015#1351630 [16:58]
assbot Logged on 24-12-2015 08:51:45; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351451 << i was rather distantly downwind of that. along with most everything else in the civilised world. [16:58]
asciilifeform or rather, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351451 [16:58]
assbot Logged on 24-12-2015 02:11:02; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/12/on-19th-day-of-christmas.html << add the 19 ukr fission plants to list-of-thing-you're-no-longer-down-wind-of [16:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48950 @ 0.00050294 = 24.6189 BTC [-] {4} [16:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51200 @ 0.00050663 = 25.9395 BTC [+] {3} [17:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53900 @ 0.00050294 = 27.1085 BTC [-] {2} [17:06]
asciilifeform http://qntra.net/2015/12/juniper-fiasco-greenwald-complicit-in-sustaining-mass-surveillance/#comment-33147 << lulzy [17:06]
assbot Juniper Fiasco: Greenwald Complicit In Sustaining Mass Surveillance | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1RLwudD ) [17:06]
punkman asciilifeform: I don't love the tiny keyboards, but as long as it's not on a touchscreen, and I'm not writing novels on it, it seems better than clunky airgapped lenovo [17:10]
asciilifeform punkman: possibly [17:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32306 @ 0.00050674 = 16.3707 BTC [+] [17:16]
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mircea_popescu mircea_popescu et al: maslennikov has a lulzy chapter << by now, "cryptogeeks, their ideas of females and trngs" coulod be a book. wasn't it proposed in the logs orgasm noise be measured? [17:47]
mircea_popescu i guess the only conclusion possibvle is that su was way the fuck boring-er than ba. [17:48]
asciilifeform hey most pc users ~still~ end up with keyboard jitter as entropy source [17:48]
asciilifeform not much has changed. [17:49]
asciilifeform 'here in the chicago meat yards, we use the entire pig. even the squeal...' [17:49]
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mircea_popescu heh [17:54]
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ben_vulpes !rate shinohai 1 trb scout [18:04]
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mircea_popescu BingoBoingo totally gotta get that guy writing articles huh [18:17]
shinohai ^^ ty ben_vulpes [18:18]
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ben_vulpes easy come easy go [18:29]
ben_vulpes long overdue in any case. [18:29]
mircea_popescu so... not so easy come ? :D [18:31]
ben_vulpes some girls, at first... [18:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6866 @ 0.00051067 = 3.5063 BTC [+] {2} [18:42]
shinohai https://roem.ru/26-12-2015/215917/no-more-google-s-public-dns/ O.o [18:47]
assbot Рунет остался без Google’s Public DNS → Roem.ru ... ( http://bit.ly/1JB3T2U ) [18:47]
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asciilifeform run moar dns. [19:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41221 @ 0.00051079 = 21.0553 BTC [+] [20:03]
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thestringpuller some lulz "1 BTC = 1 BTC is an entirely meaningless statement." in reference to bitcoin being uninflatable. [20:34]
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thestringpuller https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/680902843784544256 << and so war begins [21:56]
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mircea_popescu eh, coinbase. [22:34]
thestringpuller Well that's the nail in the coffin. [22:35]
thestringpuller another nail* [22:35]
shinohai Death to Coinbase [22:39]
mircea_popescu not like it's doing anything anyway. fiddy bucks from sales one way or the other, who cares. [22:40]
thestringpuller the rats care. although asciilifeform may be okay with living with vermin, i would prefer to have an exterminator come through. [22:41]
mircea_popescu o.O [22:42]
shinohai No ones surprised they would suck Gavin's cock since they already suck usg [22:42]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [22:43]
gribble Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 413.18, Best ask: 413.86, Bid-ask spread: 0.68000, Last trade: 413.35, 24 hour volume: 98662.17519776, 24 hour low: 405.5, 24 hour high: 456.45, 24 hour vwap: None [22:43]
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BingoBoingo http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1354143 << which one? [23:14]
assbot Logged on 26-12-2015 21:13:04; mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo totally gotta get that guy writing articles huh [23:14]
BingoBoingo ;;later tell asciilifeform http://qntra.net/2015/12/juniper-fiasco-greenwald-complicit-in-sustaining-mass-surveillance/#comment-33359 [23:15]
gribble The operation succeeded. [23:15]
assbot Juniper Fiasco: Greenwald Complicit In Sustaining Mass Surveillance | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pq8lIe ) [23:15]
mircea_popescu beautyon, keeps writijng comment articles [23:15]
BingoBoingo ah [23:15]
BingoBoingo It's been a while since I last proposed this. They just seem to keep blogging on medium.com and occasionally dropping article length comments. [23:16]
BingoBoingo Recruitogram sent https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/680935415432359936 [23:22]
mircea_popescu weird huh [23:34]
BingoBoingo Yeah, one of our first persistent non #b-a commenters, but still living on Medium.com and social media mostly [23:36]
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BingoBoingo https://archive.is/JWDwf [23:50]
assbot rate my bulk (185 to 273 from Aug-May) this is the end - Bodybuilding.com Forums ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pq9PlK ) [23:50]
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