Forum logs for 26 Dec 2015
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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pete_dushenski | ;;later tell mod6 my pleasure and thanks for the correction. i was confusing december 19th entries, it seems. i've updated that section of the trb timeline accordingly. | [00:31] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [00:31] |
pete_dushenski | asciilifeform ben_vulpes et al. i also found an even ~earlier~ mention by mircea_popescu of the "0.6.x is the last useable version" line in the sand : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-02-2014#499837 | [00:33] |
assbot | Logged on 13-02-2014 03:43:52; mircea_popescu: the resultant mess is unusable past about 0.6.x or thereabouts, for these reasons. | [00:33] |
asciilifeform | kakobrekla et al: zoolag is back. | [00:33] |
asciilifeform | now with 4x the disk at 2x the speed. | [00:34] |
pete_dushenski | shmancy | [00:34] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8216 @ 0.00050996 = 4.1898 BTC [-] | [00:37] |
pete_dushenski | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2015#1353165 << without reading it, lemme go out on a limb and hazard a guess that 'nudge tsar' cass sunstein is somehow involved. | [00:39] |
assbot | Logged on 25-12-2015 21:13:38; ben_vulpes: http://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2015/10/obamas-effort-to-nudge-america-000276 << in which the department of statistics completely forgets about the challenges of untangling correlation from causation | [00:39] |
ben_vulpes | and yet somehow trb forked from 0.5.3 | [00:39] |
* | pete_dushenski unwraps present, finds that, indeed, sunstein is the rattle he heard in the box | [00:40] |
asciilifeform | pete_dushenski: pretty sure he brought it up in 2013 not long after i started reading | [00:40] |
asciilifeform | 'Qt uses C++ with signals and slotsxiv to provide a cross-platform application framework for, essentially, illiterate amateurs.' << unfortunately this is not so | [00:41] |
asciilifeform | it is the ~only~ remaining working cross-platform native-widget graphic lib for cpp. | [00:42] |
asciilifeform | (there is/was also 'wx' but it is a shambles) | [00:42] |
pete_dushenski | duly noted. | [00:46] |
pete_dushenski | ben_vulpes: you know what version was actually released by the phoundation in june 2012, your requested vintage ? 0.6.3 | [00:48] |
pete_dushenski | 0.5.3 was released in march 2012 | [00:48] |
ben_vulpes | so? | [00:49] |
pete_dushenski | https://bitcoin.org/en/release/v0.5.3 https://bitcoin.org/en/release/v0.6.3 | [00:49] |
assbot | Bitcoin-Qt version 0.5.3 released ... ( http://bit.ly/1NPwG5I ) | [00:49] |
assbot | Bitcoin-Qt version 0.6.3 released ... ( http://bit.ly/1NPwDH8 ) | [00:49] |
asciilifeform | ben_vulpes: i think pete_dushenski was trying to write a history of trb ? | [00:50] |
asciilifeform | (premature, imho, but whatever) | [00:50] |
pete_dushenski | bitcoin compresses time. | [00:50] |
pete_dushenski | 1.25 years of development of trb is equivalent to multiples of that in row | [00:51] |
asciilifeform | l0l | [00:51] |
ben_vulpes | anyways, the point remains. mircea_popescu did not select 0.5.3 as the root fork point. | [00:51] |
asciilifeform | does anybody else find it lulzy that there are actually 2 trb's ? | [00:52] |
ben_vulpes | if you read the surrounding lines (http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-10-2014#885543, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-10-2014#885551, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-10-2014#885552) the technical nature of the question in question may become apparent. | [00:52] |
assbot | Logged on 21-10-2014 00:20:11; mircea_popescu: https://codeload.github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/legacy.tar.gz/v0.6.3 etc | [00:52] |
assbot | Logged on 21-10-2014 00:20:41; ben_vulpes: ya got it | [00:52] |
asciilifeform | and the only fella who's seen both is mircea_popescu | [00:52] |
pete_dushenski | one pdp, one unixbox | [00:53] |
asciilifeform | (though who knows whether his phriendz who worked on mircea_popescucoin may also be lurking) | [00:53] |
ben_vulpes | i'd love to hear how he got the mysterious, yes phriendz, rolled in. | [00:53] |
ben_vulpes | mostly to dismiss my own hypotheses | [00:54] |
asciilifeform | ben_vulpes: they're prlly bound by omerta | [00:54] |
ben_vulpes | well ofc | [00:54] |
pete_dushenski | ben_vulpes: btw didja see the link to your summary of changes article ? | [00:56] |
ben_vulpes | oh it /was/ in there the first time? | [00:57] |
pete_dushenski | all along dude :) | [00:57] |
pete_dushenski | who do you think i am ? | [00:57] |
ben_vulpes | i saw material factual mistakes and kinda checked out. | [00:57] |
ben_vulpes | did you include a link to my version of the same piece that you wrote? | [00:58] |
pete_dushenski | mnope. that one has a larger breadth than contravex trb timleline part i could handle. maybe in part ii. | [00:59] |
pete_dushenski | timeline* | [01:00] |
pete_dushenski | oh and joyeux noel everyone ! | [01:00] |
ben_vulpes | well don't get in the habit of failing to cite sources. | [01:00] |
pete_dushenski | ok jewmom. | [01:02] |
pete_dushenski | ;;ticker | [01:05] |
gribble | Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 447.33, Best ask: 447.45, Bid-ask spread: 0.12000, Last trade: 447.39, 24 hour volume: 16823.41469156, 24 hour low: 445.0, 24 hour high: 460.05, 24 hour vwap: None | [01:05] |
asciilifeform | pete_dushenski: another thing. the 'upgrade needed' message is distinct from the turdmeister alert | [01:06] |
asciilifeform | pete_dushenski: note that the former remains in place, http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp?v=asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option#0711 | [01:08] |
assbot | Satoshi asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option/src/main.cpp ... ( http://bit.ly/1QNa3F9 ) | [01:08] |
asciilifeform | pete_dushenski: the latter was the gavinalert thing and i killed it long ago, yes | [01:09] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46958 @ 0.00050996 = 23.9467 BTC [-] | [01:13] |
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pete_dushenski | asciilifeform: for the slightly inept, what's the difference between gavinalert and upgradealert ? | [01:16] |
asciilifeform | pete_dushenski: read the link | [01:17] |
pete_dushenski | "invalidchainfound" ? | [01:17] |
asciilifeform | aha | [01:17] |
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ben_vulpes | oh ffs whose idea was it to migrate from 'fpr' to something else in gnupg 2? | [01:24] |
asciilifeform | fpr? | [01:24] |
ben_vulpes | fingerprint. | [01:24] |
ben_vulpes | --with-colons | [01:24] |
asciilifeform | vs what | [01:25] |
ben_vulpes | (which itself a magical hellhole of stupidity) | [01:25] |
ben_vulpes | uid | [01:25] |
ben_vulpes | it appears | [01:25] |
ben_vulpes | ah no. nm. all my dumb ass. | [01:26] |
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phf | paste text to b-a-paste, manually post url to log, unless post is in the logs, it's auto expired after n hours | [01:28] |
ben_vulpes | more state, huh? | [01:30] |
phf | yeah, basically requires you to periodically pull kako logs, but that does close the "open to mob" hole | [01:32] |
phf | it's a pretty laid back option though, you're basically accepting as much third party crud as any regular paste service, but there's a gc that ties the whole thing to log, and culls the turds | [01:34] |
ben_vulpes | notbad no | [01:34] |
assbot | [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 750 @ 0.00240888 = 1.8067 BTC [+] {6} | [01:46] |
kakobrekla | you gonna keep 100+ megs of logs to save up a few kbs of space? | [01:49] |
mircea_popescu | phf iirc dpaste expire in a week anyway | [01:50] |
ben_vulpes | you can get it to do up to a year | [01:50] |
kakobrekla | by default, max is 1 year | [01:50] |
kakobrekla | anyway space is cheap these days. | [01:51] |
mircea_popescu | so it is. | [01:52] |
phf | i think it's ascii's purity concern, rather then space as such. why host someone else's graffiti, etc. | [01:52] |
kakobrekla | allocate 1% of the blockchain size and you are good for many years. | [01:52] |
mircea_popescu | this all depends on usecase. | [01:53] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353582 >> actually no, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2015#1353299 | [01:54] |
assbot | Logged on 26-12-2015 04:48:32; phf: i think it's ascii's purity concern, rather then space as such. why host someone else's graffiti, etc. | [01:54] |
assbot | Logged on 25-12-2015 23:15:12; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: part of the appeal of running a 'pastebin' ~is~ the crud dropped in by the mob. for instance, there is a long tradition of dropping 0days and leaked misc crud on pastebin. | [01:54] |
ben_vulpes | this is an argument for filtering the seawter for gold. | [01:55] |
ben_vulpes | seawater* | [01:55] |
kakobrekla | and it makes the immutability depended on assbot | [01:55] |
kakobrekla | dependent | [01:55] |
kakobrekla | anyway off to bed. | [01:55] |
ben_vulpes | wall scribblings meant for the ages should to into deedbot-, no? | [01:56] |
asciilifeform | and phf's idea doesn't require any complex state | [01:58] |
asciilifeform | every 24h cron greps the day's log for a link to the post, if doesn't find - deletes. | [01:59] |
asciilifeform | and anyone can post. | [01:59] |
asciilifeform | (if ~does~ find - copies to perma-dir) | [01:59] |
mircea_popescu | "Realtime Worlds is the brainchild of Dave Jones, the creator of Lemmings and one of the few people who can claim legitimately to have been involved in the Grand Theft Auto series since the early days." | [02:00] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.gamesbrief.com/2010/08/hubris-ambition-and-mismanagement-the-first-post-mortem-of-realtime-worlds/ | [02:00] |
assbot | Hubris, ambition and mismanagement: the first post-mortem of RealTime Worlds - Gamesbrief - Gamesbrief ... ( http://bit.ly/1IuWIOM ) | [02:00] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform how's that different from what we have now ? | [02:00] |
pete_dushenski | "The only eyewitness identifications that I can find speak of three white men." http://www.unz.com/article/what-really-happened-in-san-bernardino/ << funny, y'know i also recall the early reports being "shooting by three white men in army fatigues" or some such. | [02:00] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: we have no such thing now | [02:00] |
mircea_popescu | assbot puts out the archive.is thing, if anyone cliocks that, permadir. | [02:00] |
mircea_popescu | if nobody clicks, whatever. | [02:00] |
asciilifeform | i can't pipe text into archive.is from a shell !! | [02:00] |
mircea_popescu | again : you put the link in the log | [02:01] |
asciilifeform | LINK | [02:01] |
mircea_popescu | assbot creates the archive link | [02:01] |
asciilifeform | we were, i think, talking about a 'pastebin' | [02:01] |
mircea_popescu | ... | [02:01] |
asciilifeform | where i can, e.g., './foo.pl | pastebinatron' and get a link | [02:01] |
mircea_popescu | so ./foo.pl curl http://dpaste.com or w/e ? | [02:02] |
assbot | dpaste: New ... ( http://bit.ly/1mj4FMJ ) | [02:02] |
asciilifeform | aha but dpaste is lame | [02:02] |
asciilifeform | because 1) not ours 2) not ours 3) mutilates text 4) idiot highlighting | [02:02] |
mircea_popescu | ok so then ./foo.pl ssh-to-where-ascii-keeps-things | [02:03] |
asciilifeform | no. | [02:03] |
mircea_popescu | ... | [02:03] |
pete_dushenski | http://www.unz.com/garellano/are-mexican-men-only-interested-in-having-sex-with-white-women/ << heh. >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=16-11-2015#1325393 | [02:03] |
assbot | Are Mexican Men Only Interested in Having Sex with White Women? - The Unz Review ... ( http://bit.ly/1mj4JMm ) | [02:03] |
assbot | Logged on 16-11-2015 21:44:59; pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: what about mexicans ? | [02:03] |
asciilifeform | because i sure as fuck ain't pressing a hundred buttons | [02:04] |
mircea_popescu | dude, just make nosuchlabs.com/pastes/ and pipe to there | [02:04] |
mircea_popescu | what 100 buttons ? | [02:04] |
asciilifeform | logins | [02:04] |
mircea_popescu | so you want him to make you a login because you don't want to make your own login | [02:04] |
asciilifeform | no. | [02:04] |
mircea_popescu | and you want his login to not be a login | [02:04] |
mircea_popescu | because wtf. | [02:04] |
asciilifeform | public toilet. | [02:04] |
mircea_popescu | so host a public toilet then | [02:05] |
asciilifeform | i might, if nobody else does. | [02:05] |
mircea_popescu | da fuck namby bs is this. | [02:05] |
* | asciilifeform wasn't trying to make the point that this item is direly necessary, but that phf's scheme is specifically the correct answer | [02:05] |
mircea_popescu | it is also specifically what we already have. | [02:06] |
asciilifeform | because it doesn't multiply the work i have to do 100x !!! | [02:06] |
asciilifeform | we don't have it | [02:06] |
asciilifeform | unless mircea_popescu wrote it and told everyone but me | [02:06] |
mircea_popescu | again. 1. put item wherever you want ; 2. put link in here ; 3. assbot creates the archival link ; 4. if anyone clicks it, it's permadired. if not, not. | [02:06] |
ben_vulpes | for as long as archive.is continues to be a thing. | [02:06] |
asciilifeform | the 'put wherever you want' IS A HUNDRED KEYPRESS OPERATION | [02:07] |
asciilifeform | srsly | [02:07] |
mircea_popescu | this is no different from "for as long as ben_vulpes' thing continues to be a thing", is it ? you're gonna commit your life to dpaste ? | [02:07] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform only because you want a certain standard. and iuf you do, it will be whether you host it or he hosts it. | [02:07] |
mircea_popescu | and if you don't, it's not, for him or for you. | [02:07] |
mircea_popescu | why do you imagine other people eating involves less chewing than you eating ? | [02:07] |
asciilifeform | what the fuck is so hard to understand about wanting a sane version of dpaste ? | [02:08] |
mircea_popescu | again : if you want logins, it'll take logins. | [02:08] |
asciilifeform | specifically addressing points 1-4 but otherwise identical. | [02:08] |
mircea_popescu | if you want no-logins, you can make an anon ftp just as well | [02:08] |
asciilifeform | no logins. just garbage collected. | [02:08] |
asciilifeform | ftp doesn't pipe | [02:08] |
* | mircea_popescu shrugs. this is nonsense | [02:08] |
mircea_popescu | wtf ftp doesn't pipe. | [02:08] |
asciilifeform | can't ./foo.pl | ftp ... | [02:08] |
mircea_popescu | so fix your box then. | [02:09] |
asciilifeform | this is esp. lulzy in light of earlier thread where mircea_popescu raged at the notion of having to use a tool to read a contract | [02:09] |
asciilifeform | instead of naked telex | [02:09] |
mircea_popescu | you want to read the ftp ? | [02:09] |
asciilifeform | i want to ./foo | curl blah | [02:10] |
asciilifeform | specificall. | [02:10] |
mircea_popescu | ok so what's the problem ? | [02:10] |
mircea_popescu | put a fucking form on nosuchlabs.com/pastes/ and curl-post to it. | [02:10] |
asciilifeform | no specific problem. phf wrote down the solution. | [02:10] |
mircea_popescu | sigh. | [02:10] |
asciilifeform | (all that remains is for anybody to give a fuck and write proggy. i'm presently occupied.) | [02:11] |
mircea_popescu |
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mircea_popescu | jesus god. | [02:12] |
asciilifeform | the saving part (archive.is) | [02:12] |
asciilifeform | the pastebinatron that doesn't mutilate line endings does not presently exist | [02:12] |
asciilifeform | (i'm not even certain that this is possible given browser) | [02:13] |
mircea_popescu | ... | [02:13] |
mircea_popescu | i gotta try this now. | [02:13] |
mircea_popescu | http://dpaste.com/3EK5TZH < | [02:16] |
assbot | dpaste: 3EK5TZH ... ( http://bit.ly/1mj5mWl ) | [02:16] |
asciilifeform | 00000000 66 69 72 73 74 20 6c 69 6e 65 0d 0a 73 65 63 6f |first line..seco| | [02:17] |
asciilifeform | 00000010 6e 64 20 6c 69 6e 65 0d 0a 74 68 69 72 64 20 6c |nd line..third l| | [02:17] |
asciilifeform | 00000020 69 6e 65 |ine| | [02:17] |
asciilifeform | 0d 0a motherfuckerz | [02:17] |
asciilifeform | 0d 0a. | [02:17] |
mircea_popescu | $ curl http://dpaste.com/3EK5TZH.txt | hexdump | [02:18] |
mircea_popescu | % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current | [02:18] |
mircea_popescu | Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed | [02:18] |
mircea_popescu | 0 35 0 35 0 0 92 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 179 | [02:18] |
mircea_popescu | 0000000 6966 7372 2074 696c 656e 0a0d 6573 6f63 | [02:18] |
mircea_popescu | 0000010 646e 6c20 6e69 0d65 740a 6968 6472 6c20 | [02:18] |
mircea_popescu | 0000020 6e69 0065 | [02:18] |
mircea_popescu | 0000023 | [02:18] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1mj5oxq ) | [02:18] |
mircea_popescu | fix your box. | [02:18] |
asciilifeform | 0a0d << i'll fix mine when you discover how to fix yours ? | [02:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54750 @ 0.00051015 = 27.9307 BTC [+] | [02:19] |
asciilifeform | or anybody's... | [02:19] |
asciilifeform | use hexdump -C | [02:19] |
mircea_popescu | 740a 6968 | [02:19] |
mircea_popescu | 0a! | [02:19] |
mircea_popescu | first one's 0d0a. 2nd one's 0a. | [02:20] |
mircea_popescu | which is what i put in there. /r/n ; /n | [02:20] |
asciilifeform | $ curl http://dpaste.com/3EK5TZH.txt | hexdump -C | [02:20] |
asciilifeform | [snipped crud] | [02:20] |
asciilifeform | 00000000 66 69 72 73 74 20 6c 69 6e 65 0d 0a 73 65 63 6f |first line..seco| | [02:20] |
asciilifeform | 00000010 6e 64 20 6c 69 6e 65 0d 0a 74 68 69 72 64 20 6c |nd line..third l| | [02:20] |
asciilifeform | 00000020 69 6e 65 |ine| | [02:20] |
phf | nah, your hex dump is doing byte order rearrangement | [02:20] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1mj5oxq ) | [02:20] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: post your hexdump -C plz | [02:21] |
mircea_popescu | da fuck is this shit ?! | [02:21] |
mircea_popescu | hexdump -C is like yours. | [02:21] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: you're dumping in native-endian word | [02:21] |
asciilifeform | so you got mangled | [02:21] |
mircea_popescu | how the everloving fuck am i getting different byte counts | [02:21] |
phf | 0d65 740a are the relevant bits | [02:21] |
mircea_popescu | oh | [02:22] |
mircea_popescu | o brother | [02:22] |
mircea_popescu | dude does this shit even work ? | [02:22] |
ben_vulpes | ahuehuaheauhuaehu | [02:22] |
asciilifeform | hexdump most certainly worx. | [02:22] |
* | asciilifeform lives and dies by it | [02:22] |
asciilifeform | -C presents bytez in actual arithmetical order (0..N) | [02:23] |
mircea_popescu | mk, this requires more experiments. | [02:23] |
ben_vulpes | i couldn't rule out curl hosing my experiments, mircea_popescu | [02:23] |
ben_vulpes | have fun | [02:23] |
asciilifeform | ben_vulpes: y'know, let's telnet | [02:23] |
mircea_popescu | i didn't mean by me. | [02:23] |
ben_vulpes | yes asciilifeform telnet let's go | [02:23] |
mircea_popescu | i've had it. two hexdumps. for the love of chrissakes. | [02:24] |
ben_vulpes | for what its worth emacs' eww was the most reliable tool for finding wacky line endings | [02:24] |
ben_vulpes | which SHOULD NOT BE THE CASE omg | [02:24] |
mircea_popescu | 6e69 0065 vs 69 6e 65 [00] | [02:25] |
mircea_popescu | nuts already. | [02:25] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: use -C always | [02:25] |
asciilifeform | unless you are doing something exotic | [02:25] |
mircea_popescu | "does this shit even work" was, for the record, a very general inquiry. | [02:25] |
mircea_popescu | the answer is reallynot. | [02:26] |
ben_vulpes | and in the general case, no. | [02:26] |
mircea_popescu | fancy that it'd split one word but not the other, also. what a spicy adventure. | [02:27] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform i still dunno how you figure someone ELSE is going to implement this thing for you, but anyway. | [02:28] |
asciilifeform | nah i don't expect anybody to implement it. | [02:29] |
asciilifeform | i may or may not get around to it. | [02:29] |
mircea_popescu | for one thing it doesn't even seem it can be over web. it'll have to be actual files sftp'd or something. | [02:29] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: nobody split your word! | [02:29] |
asciilifeform | you're seeing word boundaries | [02:29] |
asciilifeform | as in machine word | [02:29] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform that's whatg i mean. | [02:29] |
asciilifeform | use -C plox | [02:29] |
mircea_popescu | it just so happened that the boundary split the 0a from the 0d in the 2nd case but not in the first, so as to appear matching what i put in there. | [02:30] |
mircea_popescu | this was one of 4 possible rolls of that dice. | [02:30] |
asciilifeform | put more - or fewer - letters, you'll see different split | [02:30] |
mircea_popescu | of course. | [02:30] |
asciilifeform | it is artifact of your byte count | [02:30] |
mircea_popescu | still, 1:4 odds for it to fall this way. | [02:30] |
asciilifeform | nothing to do with what happened over the net. it is dirt on your lens. | [02:30] |
mircea_popescu | i know this! | [02:31] |
asciilifeform | ok | [02:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18183 @ 0.00050996 = 9.2726 BTC [-] | [02:31] |
mircea_popescu | curl http://dpaste.com/2116EDR.txt | hexdump for instance does it the other way. | [02:32] |
mircea_popescu | etc | [02:32] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1mj66e1 ) | [02:32] |
phf | (drakma:http-request (concatenate 'string (cdr (assoc :location (nth-value 2 (drakma:http-request "http://dpaste.com/api/v2/" :method :post :parameters `(("content" . ,(concatenate 'string "foo" '(#Newline) "bar"))))))) ".txt") :force-binary t) | [02:33] |
phf | #(66 6F 6F A 62 61 72) | [02:33] |
phf | so it's the posting tool's problem | [02:34] |
asciilifeform | url plz ? | [02:34] |
asciilifeform | (of the posted payload) | [02:34] |
phf | http://dpaste.com/3WF7P5P.txt | [02:35] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1mj6byg ) | [02:35] |
mircea_popescu | lo and behold. | [02:35] |
mircea_popescu | i get what he gets. | [02:35] |
asciilifeform | $ curl http://dpaste.com/3WF7P5P.txt | hexdump -C | [02:35] |
asciilifeform | [snip] | [02:35] |
asciilifeform | 00000000 66 6f 6f 0a 62 61 72 |foo.bar| | [02:35] |
asciilifeform | aha | [02:35] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1mj6byg ) | [02:35] |
mircea_popescu | dude, did phf just fix our boxen ? | [02:35] |
asciilifeform | posted without browser | [02:35] |
mircea_popescu | i posted with curl | [02:36] |
mircea_popescu | !rated phf | [02:36] |
asciilifeform | curl apparently also retarded | [02:36] |
assbot | You rated user phf on 24-Jun-2015, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: Well read gent in search of a handler. Bureaucrats and mustachioed young ladies apply within.. | [02:36] |
mircea_popescu | !rate phf 2 Fixed our boxen! | [02:36] |
assbot | Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/c07a32caa47b77e8 | [02:36] |
mircea_popescu | !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.phf.2:50fd9856def1d11892a93952e0dcb21fb8e94057c701db179205a63d866654be | [02:36] |
assbot | Successfully updated the rating for phf from 2 to 2 with note: Fixed our boxen! | [02:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43200 @ 0.00050964 = 22.0164 BTC [-] {2} | [02:36] |
* | asciilifeform recalls the great newline warz, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-10-2014#901002 | [02:37] |
assbot | Logged on 29-10-2014 01:24:18; nubbins`: CLRF IS THE STANDARD NEWLINE | [02:37] |
mircea_popescu | lmao | [02:37] |
mircea_popescu | o wait he was kidding ? i r disappoint. | [02:38] |
ben_vulpes | .net jokes | [02:38] |
* | mircea_popescu just realised that in spite of not having a clue he was actually FUCKING RIGHT | [02:38] |
mircea_popescu | i hope it burns, alf! | [02:38] |
asciilifeform | burnz like sunshine (tm) (r) | [02:38] |
asciilifeform | so anybody know the magical --disable-retardation flag for curl ? | [02:39] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81862 @ 0.00050801 = 41.5867 BTC [-] {3} | [02:42] |
ben_vulpes | not i | [02:44] |
phf | what does that produce? curl -s `printf 'foox0abar'|curl -s -F "content=<-" http://dpaste.com/api/v2/`.txt|xxd | [02:44] |
assbot | Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1mj6qJN ) | [02:44] |
phf | asciilifeform: ^- | [02:45] |
asciilifeform | 0000000: 666f 6f0a 6261 72 foo.bar | [02:46] |
asciilifeform | but this doesn't crap out the url | [02:46] |
phf | well, that's the relevant posting bit echo foo|curl -s -F "content=<-" http://dpaste.com/api/v2/ | [02:47] |
assbot | The dpaste API, version 2 ... ( http://bit.ly/1OryrLX ) | [02:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26859 @ 0.00051015 = 13.7021 BTC [+] | [02:52] |
ben_vulpes | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353741 << if i'm reading this thread correctly, this problem is directly traceable to tools used to jam ascii into dpaste.com et al? | [03:08] |
assbot | Logged on 26-12-2015 05:25:36; mircea_popescu: for one thing it doesn't even seem it can be over web. it'll have to be actual files sftp'd or something. | [03:08] |
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mircea_popescu | yes. | [03:08] |
asciilifeform | !s 0a | [03:09] |
assbot | 15 results for '0a' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=0a | [03:09] |
ben_vulpes | "For historical reasons, the element's value is normalised in three different ways for three different purposes." | [03:10] |
ben_vulpes | oh ho god no | [03:10] |
asciilifeform | hysterical raisins (tm) (r) (orlov) | [03:11] |
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ben_vulpes | Finally, there is the form submission value. It is normalized so that line breaks use U+000D CARRIAGE RETURN U+000A LINE FEED (CRLF) character pairs | [03:12] |
ben_vulpes | fuck this | [03:12] |
ben_vulpes | crlf is in the fucking spec?! | [03:12] |
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asciilifeform | nubbins` did warn. | [03:13] |
mircea_popescu | !up ith | [03:13] |
-assbot- | You voiced ith for 30 minutes. | [03:13] |
* | assbot gives voice to ith | [03:13] |
ith | What year is it, please? | [03:13] |
mircea_popescu | U+ bs ?! | [03:13] |
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ben_vulpes | the year of microsft's victory, apparently ith. | [03:13] |
ith | Sorry :( | [03:14] |
mircea_popescu | there is no U+000D. it's x0d | [03:14] |
ith | Hmm | [03:14] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: x0d in the land of man; u+000d in zimbabwe, in the trees | [03:14] |
ith | Has anyone figured out a way to do Windows 10 without being spied on? | [03:14] |
ben_vulpes | !down ith | [03:15] |
* | assbot removes voice from ith | [03:15] |
mircea_popescu | !down ahnm | [03:15] |
mircea_popescu | wtf is this. | [03:15] |
asciilifeform | ith: yes. you stoke furnace with it | [03:15] |
asciilifeform | meowmix! | [03:15] |
ben_vulpes | excuse me? | [03:15] |
asciilifeform | !s meowmix | [03:15] |
assbot | 63 results for 'meowmix' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=meowmix | [03:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35977 @ 0.00050726 = 18.2497 BTC [-] | [03:15] |
ben_vulpes | no, the auth timeout. | [03:15] |
asciilifeform | ahaha lol | [03:15] |
ben_vulpes | what is it? 24 hours? | [03:16] |
* | asciilifeform always regarded the timeout as a bug | [03:16] |
ben_vulpes | assbot doesn't even give me a useful complaint. | [03:16] |
ben_vulpes | interface isn't precisely self-consistent, no. | [03:16] |
asciilifeform | aha it just silently pisses on you | [03:16] |
ben_vulpes | yes. | [03:16] |
ben_vulpes | like everything tonight. | [03:16] |
ben_vulpes | fuck computers | [03:16] |
ben_vulpes | i am going to go do the dishes, rageclean, watch a movie and bask in the cutefield. | [03:17] |
asciilifeform | i'ma go an' read more maslennikov | [03:17] |
asciilifeform | best autobio ever | [03:17] |
asciilifeform | odd chapters sov collapse politics; even #'d chapters - theorems | [03:17] |
asciilifeform | re: block & stream cipher analysis | [03:17] |
asciilifeform | UNPUBLISHED ELSEWHERE | [03:17] |
asciilifeform | i can see why no dead tree house agreed to print this | [03:18] |
asciilifeform | it'd sell... 5 copies | [03:18] |
* | asciilifeform bbl | [03:18] |
BingoBoingo | line 11 in therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20151225/ban_aws_crud_3755a8bb0800aa9ec6fdb5f840e67d6cca4ac5cc.sh returns nekkin ip addresses/ranges right? | [03:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17100 @ 0.00050531 = 8.6408 BTC [-] | [03:29] |
pete_dushenski | let | [03:33] |
pete_dushenski | let's try this russian thing : | [03:33] |
pete_dushenski | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2015#1353372 << "Politruk - a hero of the Soviet Union. You have an empty belly." | [03:33] |
assbot | Logged on 25-12-2015 23:57:14; asciilifeform: http://www.sovunion.info/posters/listovky/200.jpg << same | [03:33] |
pete_dushenski | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2015#1353374 << "How is the Politruk doing - as he's pulling down the branch." | [03:34] |
assbot | Logged on 25-12-2015 23:57:32; asciilifeform: http://www.sovunion.info/posters/listovky/199.jpg << ditto | [03:34] |
pete_dushenski | !s politruk | [03:34] |
assbot | 3 results for 'politruk' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=politruk | [03:34] |
pete_dushenski | heh. s/ those translations. | [03:35] |
pete_dushenski | obv. | [03:35] |
pete_dushenski | asciilifeform: when would you date these 'german leaflets' ? ^ | [03:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00050605 = 8.8053 BTC [+] | [03:37] |
pete_dushenski | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353478 << how very affirmative :P | [03:40] |
assbot | Logged on 26-12-2015 01:11:01; thestringpuller: 'in the dark, all cats are black' (tm) (r) << or as the negros sometime say. All pussy feels the same with the lights out. | [03:40] |
pete_dushenski | speaking of affirmative... http://www.contravex.com/2015/12/16/its-not-your-outgoing-us-presidents-fault-hes-a-dumb-monkey-its-affirmative-actions/#comment-37892 | [03:45] |
assbot | It’s not your outgoing US President’s fault he’s a dumb monkey, it’s affirmative action’s. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1OrAqzZ ) | [03:45] |
pete_dushenski | !s fred reed | [03:45] |
assbot | 5 results for 'fred reed' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=fred+reed | [03:45] |
pete_dushenski | thought it rang a bell | [03:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26622 @ 0.00050605 = 13.4721 BTC [+] | [03:52] |
punkman | http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/27/business/dealbook/the-unsung-tax-agent-who-put-a-face-on-the-silk-road.html | [04:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23150 @ 0.00050531 = 11.6979 BTC [-] | [04:15] |
assbot | Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Oeh9QA ) | [04:15] |
punkman | "unsung tax agent" lol | [04:16] |
pete_dushenski | if that doesn't make you swoon... | [04:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 88100 @ 0.00050531 = 44.5178 BTC [-] | [04:18] |
mats | I thought of pete_dushenski this fine xmas | [04:19] |
mats | chinese people and jews have a couple things in common, including enjoying chinese meals during xmas | [04:20] |
pete_dushenski | don't forget to cite ben_vulpes too ;/ | [04:21] |
mats | i had no idea | [04:22] |
* | BingoBoingo successully blocked AWS from port 8333 | [04:22] |
mats | although mebbe that fro should've been a giveaway | [04:22] |
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mats | anyway, am in the silly valley and wtf its colder here than boston | [04:25] |
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mats | http://arxiv.org/abs/1512.06808 | [04:33] |
assbot | [1512.06808] Game Theory (Open Access textbook with 165 solved exercises) ... ( http://bit.ly/1OeiHKm ) | [04:33] |
pete_dushenski | mats: well, this christmas you can be thankful that you don't have to contest with other chinese doods in b-a for that little niche (yes, there are niches in b-a, as anywhere else). | [04:38] |
pete_dushenski | ben_vulpes and i, for example, have waaaay too much in common (similar age, young families, upbringing, even geography's not ~that~ far off), which i'm pretty sure is what leads to our sometimes curt and unproductive tete-a-tetes de temps en temps as we struggle to tease one apart from the other. | [04:38] |
pete_dushenski | thankfully, he leaps ahead of me in coding and rockets (and other things) while i take the lead in, i dunno, travel writing or something, or else no one would be able to keep us straight. | [04:39] |
BingoBoingo | I think ben_vulpes might even beat pete_dushenski in the fast cars department now. | [04:39] |
pete_dushenski | mats: being the token chinese dood isn't a terrible spot. | [04:40] |
mats | lol | [04:40] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00050531 = 4.1435 BTC [-] | [04:41] |
pete_dushenski | BingoBoingo: i've only ever had one fast car, and it grated on my nerves 98% of the time as 98% of my driving is under 60 kph. | [04:41] |
BingoBoingo | I dunno, maybe leave the city every now and then? | [04:41] |
pete_dushenski | that's what airplanes are for. | [04:41] |
punkman | just need a carplane | [04:42] |
pete_dushenski | ;;buy 1 carplane 1 btc inquire within | [04:42] |
gribble | Error: For identification purposes, you must be identified via GPG to use the order book. | [04:42] |
deedbot- | [Qntra] Warning: "Escrow Service" Goes On Sale - http://qntra.net/2015/12/warning-escrow-service-goes-on-sale/ | [04:45] |
BingoBoingo | What if you need to go to random farm or mudhole? how many of those have aeroports? | [04:45] |
mats | anyways, time to turn it in so I can get an early start on http://eudyptula-challenge.org | [04:45] |
assbot | The Eudyptula Challenge ... ( http://bit.ly/1NGu6kx ) | [04:45] |
pete_dushenski | mats: gl | [04:46] |
pete_dushenski | BingoBoingo: one word : osprey | [04:46] |
BingoBoingo | Aren't they notorious for killing their entire crew and cargo? | [04:46] |
mats | first challenge is too easy: print hallo world to kernel debug log | [04:46] |
mats | have a good one, folks. | [04:47] |
pete_dushenski | BingoBoingo: that's what makes them fun ! only a true hero would get behind the wheel of their own personal osprey | [04:47] |
BingoBoingo | You mean only An Hero | [04:47] |
pete_dushenski | ^ | [04:47] |
BingoBoingo | ;;ud an hero | [04:48] |
gribble | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=an+hero | an hero. To commit suicide, regardless of how stupid the reason is or is not. Someone stole Mitchell's iPod, so he became an hero. by 4chananonymous ... | [04:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49616 @ 0.00050605 = 25.1082 BTC [+] | [04:49] |
* | pete_dushenski to lessing. and bed. | [04:49] |
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punkman | http://en.qi-hardware.com/w/images/7/78/Nano_cola.jpg | [04:50] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1NGujo2 ) | [04:50] |
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punkman | http://xkcd.com/1621/ | [05:01] |
assbot | xkcd: Fixion ... ( http://bit.ly/1OekPSi ) | [05:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36800 @ 0.00050809 = 18.6977 BTC [+] {2} | [05:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59550 @ 0.00051002 = 30.3717 BTC [+] {3} | [05:26] |
deedbot- | [cascadian hacker] [UPDATE] WOTPASTE changes - http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2015/12/26_update-wotpaste-changes.html | [05:36] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52585 @ 0.00050487 = 26.5486 BTC [-] {4} | [06:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68250 @ 0.00050376 = 34.3816 BTC [-] {4} | [06:22] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 126529 @ 0.0005104 = 64.5804 BTC [+] {2} | [06:51] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108871 @ 0.00051043 = 55.571 BTC [+] | [06:52] |
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BingoBoingo | AHA I FOUND THE REAL JUNIPER VILLIAN | [07:15] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50612 @ 0.00051043 = 25.8339 BTC [+] {2} | [07:16] |
BingoBoingo | how did I miss this turdbaggery previously | [07:16] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30047 @ 0.00051049 = 15.3387 BTC [+] | [07:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00051049 = 9.4696 BTC [+] | [07:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77550 @ 0.00050638 = 39.2698 BTC [-] {2} | [08:05] |
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jurov | omg dat log... s/pastebin/bikeshed/ | [08:12] |
BingoBoingo | lol | [08:18] |
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mircea_popescu | ben_vulpes> i am going to go do the dishes, rageclean, watch a movie and bask in the cutefield. <<< https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nf0oXY4nDxE | [08:34] |
assbot | Aerosmith - Dude (Looks Like A Lady) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1mjjmiX ) | [08:34] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform> it'd sell... 5 copies << yeah, but catnip for some people :D | [08:34] |
mircea_popescu | jurov keep going, eventually we figure out we actually don't need it. over alf's dead body. | [08:35] |
deedbot- | [Qntra] Juniper Fiasco: Greenwald Complicit In Sustaining Mass Surveillance - http://qntra.net/2015/12/juniper-fiasco-greenwald-complicit-in-sustaining-mass-surveillance/ | [08:38] |
BingoBoingo | ^ Further deeper takes on the Juniper thing are prolly welcome | [08:40] |
mircea_popescu |
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[08:42] |
BingoBoingo | Latest qntra also has picture of Greenwald | [08:42] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15684 @ 0.00050948 = 7.9907 BTC [+] | [08:42] |
mircea_popescu | nb. | [08:43] |
BingoBoingo | didn't turn that they know of | [08:43] |
BingoBoingo | But of course the tax office would select for the most blindly loyal to the fiat | [08:43] |
mircea_popescu | mats> anyway, am in the silly valley and wtf its colder here than boston <<< something about how global warming rearranges hot streams and whatnot. #totally-not-random-climatic-noise | [08:44] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo either that or the most stolidly boring. | [08:44] |
mircea_popescu | but hey, one day he wants to be a lion tamer. | [08:44] |
BingoBoingo | Is there a difference | [08:44] |
mircea_popescu | in other news, dear chan, allow me to introduce... the blue footed booby. http://cdn.earthporm.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/blue-footed-booby.jpg | [08:47] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1mjjP4x ) | [08:47] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28200 @ 0.0005091 = 14.3566 BTC [-] | [09:04] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55150 @ 0.00050964 = 28.1066 BTC [+] {2} | [09:05] |
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BingoBoingo | http://www.increasinglyadequate.com/macppc.html | [09:17] |
assbot | OpenBSD 5.8 on a 1999 iMac G3 (iMac,1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1OexIvD ) | [09:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12600 @ 0.00050656 = 6.3827 BTC [-] {2} | [09:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10700 @ 0.00051049 = 5.4622 BTC [+] | [09:29] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25849 @ 0.00051049 = 13.1957 BTC [+] {2} | [09:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82450 @ 0.00050264 = 41.4427 BTC [-] {2} | [09:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66580 @ 0.00051052 = 33.9904 BTC [+] {2} | [09:40] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40952 @ 0.00050178 = 20.5489 BTC [-] | [10:53] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 59800 @ 0.00050432 = 30.1583 BTC [+] | [11:00] |
shinohai | ;;ticker --market all | [11:08] |
gribble | Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 421.0, vol: 18540.70965603 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 417.811, vol: 10636.5393 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 420.03, vol: 64565.92399074 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 421.21, vol: 0.28972837 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 416.138359, vol: 119160.49820000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 419.03254, vol: 81.58782921 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 422.576, vol: 85.40752718 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message) | [11:09] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86450 @ 0.00050531 = 43.684 BTC [+] {3} | [11:13] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48150 @ 0.00050657 = 24.3913 BTC [+] | [11:23] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13702 @ 0.00051059 = 6.9961 BTC [+] | [12:19] |
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asciilifeform | ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://dpaste.com/06339V3 ( https://cryptome.org/2015/12/nsl-under-seal-026-030.pdf ) re: 'national security letters', interesting record of failed resistance through litigation | [12:26] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [12:26] |
assbot | dpaste: 06339V3: LORETTA E. LYNCH, Attorney General v. UNDER SEAL ... ( http://bit.ly/1VjGoSR ) | [12:26] |
mircea_popescu | ola ? | [12:26] |
asciilifeform | aha! thar he is | [12:27] |
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asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353859 << terrible translation. correct one: 'every politruk you see - hoist him high into a tree' | [12:28] |
assbot | Logged on 26-12-2015 06:30:22; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-12-2015#1353374 << "How is the Politruk doing - as he's pulling down the branch." | [12:28] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353876 << so cheap is the octopus ink, but so laughably transparent - this idiocy is supposed to make folks forget about the tor 0day ? | [12:30] |
assbot | Logged on 26-12-2015 07:11:38; punkman: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/27/business/dealbook/the-unsung-tax-agent-who-put-a-face-on-the-silk-road.html | [12:30] |
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mircea_popescu | "UNOPPOSED MOTION FOR PARTIAL UNSEALING" seems successful enough | [12:31] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: but in a very laughable sense where we DON'T learn the identity of the victim OR anything pertinent re: why he was picked | [12:32] |
asciilifeform | so they unsealed... what? a portion of the boilerplate... | [12:33] |
asciilifeform | this is usg's way of laughing | [12:33] |
mircea_popescu | i have no fucking idea why the victims actually go along with this charade. | [12:33] |
mircea_popescu | oh, you got a gag order ? ha-ha. heres' the website with the material published. | [12:33] |
asciilifeform | vs what? take a pen and poke a policeman ? | [12:33] |
mircea_popescu | watchagonnado. | [12:33] |
asciilifeform | 20 yrs to life ? | [12:34] |
mircea_popescu | yarly ? | [12:34] |
asciilifeform | (ianal) | [12:34] |
mircea_popescu | "the hackers stole it" | [12:34] |
asciilifeform | stole a snail mail ? | [12:34] |
mircea_popescu | why snail mail specifically ? | [12:35] |
mircea_popescu | "i was keeping backups in the cloud". | [12:35] |
asciilifeform | iirc these are typically delivered as snail mail, victim signs for package | [12:36] |
mircea_popescu | these whats ? | [12:36] |
asciilifeform | 'nsl' | [12:36] |
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mircea_popescu | they can stand on their fucking head. | [12:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41284 @ 0.00050822 = 20.9814 BTC [-] {3} | [12:37] |
asciilifeform | anyway linked document solely because it appears to contain citations to case law | [12:37] |
asciilifeform | in case anyone can be bothered | [12:37] |
asciilifeform | but i don't know very many people who give half a fuck re: nazi case law today | [12:38] |
asciilifeform | and so it goes for usg's. | [12:38] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353958 << mega-l0l, more or less same conclusion as my experience with toshiba libretto in '14 | [12:40] |
assbot | Logged on 26-12-2015 12:13:51; BingoBoingo: http://www.increasinglyadequate.com/macppc.html | [12:40] |
asciilifeform | 'Running Firefox on this machine to browse "modern," Javascript-heavy sites is an excercise in frustration; the 2015 version of CNN.com basically freezes Firefox for 30 seconds or more.' | [12:40] |
mircea_popescu | o.O | [12:41] |
asciilifeform | and it is fine to say 'use lynx.' so i did. but turns out that you CAN'T GET the box running 'as if it was 2004' when my libretto happily ran freebsd with no lag | [12:42] |
asciilifeform | (because the src packages are no longer available) | [12:42] |
mircea_popescu | kinda why we gotta shrinkwrap and deedbot | [12:43] |
asciilifeform | aha | [12:43] |
asciilifeform | i loved that machine. it fit in a motherfucking coat pocket | [12:43] |
asciilifeform | you can't buy this now, for any amount of money | [12:43] |
asciilifeform | because it wasn't a 'shitbook', had decent display and usable (if with 8 fingers) keyboard | [12:44] |
asciilifeform | cost something like 6K usd in '97. | [12:44] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353919 << this is a famously unobtainable gadget. (of questionable utility, also. just try pressing those keys) | [12:47] |
assbot | Logged on 26-12-2015 07:46:34; punkman: http://en.qi-hardware.com/w/images/7/78/Nano_cola.jpg | [12:47] |
asciilifeform | i tried for some years to find a vendor, then gave up | [12:47] |
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punkman | asciilifeform: saw an indian company that's supposedly shipping, ~$60 | [12:49] |
punkman | I'd really like something around that size | [12:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53700 @ 0.00050457 = 27.0954 BTC [-] | [12:56] |
jurov | looks like my xperia mini pro (sadly no longer working) | [13:02] |
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jurov | !t m f.mpif | [13:15] |
assbot | How can I be of assistance, my poor man? | [13:15] |
jurov | !mpif | [13:15] |
assbot | BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021522 B (Total: 427.60 B). Delta: -0.79 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.000209 BTC [-] | [13:15] |
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asciilifeform | punkman, jurov: i have a similar device, 'zipit' | [13:16] |
asciilifeform | http://linux.zipitwireless.com | [13:16] |
assbot | ZipitForge - Trac ... ( http://bit.ly/1mjzYad ) | [13:16] |
asciilifeform | http://chainxor.org/openwrt-zipit/zipit-openwrt.jpg << looks like this. | [13:17] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1mjzZLl ) | [13:17] |
asciilifeform | and virtually useless | [13:17] |
asciilifeform | (even if you can find something that runs tolerably on it) | [13:17] |
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pete_dushenski | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353977 << cheers. and when would these have been from ? wwii ? | [13:36] |
assbot | Logged on 26-12-2015 15:24:52; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1353859 << terrible translation. correct one: 'every politruk you see - hoist him high into a tree' | [13:36] |
asciilifeform | pete_dushenski: ww2, almost certainly in the blitzkrieg phase | [13:36] |
pete_dushenski | makes sense | [13:36] |
asciilifeform | german authorship, if it isn't obvious | [13:36] |
pete_dushenski | it is ! | [13:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60143 @ 0.0005079 = 30.5466 BTC [+] | [13:37] |
jurov | lol i'm sure actual germans needed not do anything beyond approval | [13:39] |
asciilifeform | jurov: these were leaflets dropped by germany at the front | [13:40] |
asciilifeform | there were analogous ones everywhere | [13:40] |
jurov | aok | [13:40] |
mircea_popescu | iffy thing. bout half the politruks were popular. | [13:43] |
mircea_popescu | trotsky was one. | [13:43] |
asciilifeform | aha | [13:43] |
asciilifeform | one reason why sometimes popular, is that it was a parallel vertical | [13:43] |
asciilifeform | or whatever this is called today | [13:43] |
mircea_popescu | on occasion worked like a sort of "army union" | [13:44] |
asciilifeform | y'know, sorta like the church in the old days | [13:44] |
shinohai | node behaviour is much improved today asciilifeform ty | [13:44] |
asciilifeform | separate hierarchy | [13:44] |
mircea_popescu | had to, after the nonsense of "soviets" that destroyed russia's fighting capacity in ww1 | [13:44] |
asciilifeform | shinohai: aha! they can breathe! and many more interesting folks connected: cn, ru, etc | [13:44] |
asciilifeform | shinohai: enjoy the clean air, while it lasts, eventually the crap artists will find proxies outside aws | [13:45] |
shinohai | :/ | [13:47] |
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mircea_popescu | actually discouraging adoption among the welfare horde is probably very useful for bitcoin. it's quite clear that adding nato reich puppets is a marginal loss per capita by now. | [13:54] |
asciilifeform | Быдло, в стойло ! (tm) (r) | [13:55] |
asciilifeform | (roughly, cattle - straight to the stalls!) | [13:55] |
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pete_dushenski | !up ryan-c | [14:03] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51114 @ 0.00050956 = 26.0456 BTC [+] {2} | [14:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10650 @ 0.00050457 = 5.3737 BTC [-] {2} | [14:11] |
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shinohai | http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-12-25/argentinas-outgoing-president-has-refused-give-her-official-twitter-account <<< KEK | [14:15] |
assbot | Argentina's outgoing president has refused to give up her official Twitter account | Public Radio International ... ( http://bit.ly/1PoWzMp ) | [14:15] |
thestringpuller | good morning | [14:16] |
pete_dushenski | thestringpuller: mornin' ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epw0J45X-FI | [14:17] |
asciilifeform | 'And in this one, she complains of an imminent “devaluation” in January, which would leave workers poorer.' << ahahaha | [14:17] |
assbot | The Niggar Family | Chappelle's Show - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1PoWJDB ) | [14:17] |
asciilifeform | ( see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1345987 ) | [14:18] |
assbot | Logged on 18-12-2015 02:21:17; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1345983 << whatever happened to sov ruble-style devaluations ? | [14:18] |
thestringpuller | pete_dushenski: That episode is so funny. Classic. "Look at suzie's baby. She's got them niggar lips!" | [14:18] |
pete_dushenski | thestringpuller: lol and "i don't want our daughter dating some niggar boy" | [14:19] |
pete_dushenski | "not A niggar, THE niggars" | [14:19] |
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pete_dushenski | "In this tweet, she implies that the new government is guilty of nepotism," << ism-istas ! get 'em boys ! | [14:22] |
pete_dushenski | what wot ? everyone should have a chance to be top gov officials ! even the homeless bums ! | [14:22] |
shinohai | lol | [14:23] |
pete_dushenski | because homeless bums and black doods who've never been beaten know what's best for this country. | [14:23] |
pete_dushenski | ;;ticker | [14:26] |
gribble | Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 407.0, Best ask: 408.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 407.1, 24 hour volume: 78611.5073499, 24 hour low: 405.5, 24 hour high: 460.05, 24 hour vwap: None | [14:26] |
pete_dushenski | boxing day sale ! | [14:26] |
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pete_dushenski | or children selling their btc to buy half-priced winter jackets and... air conditioners | [14:27] |
pete_dushenski | y'know, for the global warming | [14:27] |
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asciilifeform | mircea_popescu et al: maslennikov has a lulzy chapter on how rng for key generation was done (late '80s, imported 'pc xt' in kgb, but no trng naturally). answer: chix playing 'tetris' | [14:33] |
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thestringpuller | i had a realization today. i would rather bitcoin be plagued with scammers so the idiot "experts" who seem to know what is best for bitcoin would get scammed. | [14:53] |
asciilifeform | usg 'expertz' have approximately as much to fear from sc4mz0rz as mountain from mosquitoes | [14:55] |
jurov | what? hasn't that happened already? | [14:55] |
asciilifeform | (it isn't as if the money they spent were their own, or its supply - finite) | [14:55] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8700 @ 0.00050597 = 4.4019 BTC [+] {2} | [14:56] |
thestringpuller | asciilifeform: i'm not talking about usg 'expertz' i'm taling about d00d who lives in his mom's basement rent-free 'expert' who is able to convince 1000 other lemmings he is an expert. | [14:57] |
thestringpuller | at least if they got scammed you wouldn't have to worry about them. | [14:57] |
asciilifeform | wai wut | [14:57] |
asciilifeform | i had to worry about them ?? | [14:57] |
asciilifeform | let the rats feed on the rats. | [14:58] |
thestringpuller | i guess not. point taken. | [14:58] |
thestringpuller | I would rather have the rats exterminated tho! | [14:58] |
thestringpuller | Is there no rat poison in BTC? | [14:58] |
asciilifeform | vermin are thermodynamically inevitable | [14:59] |
punkman | http://www.pandorawiki.org/images/Pandora1ghz.png this is pretty close to a better nanonote, but not for sale anywhere | [15:06] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1R1l7Nk ) | [15:06] |
punkman | its successor doesn't look bad either https://www.pyra-handheld.com/wiki/index.php?title=Dragonbox_Pyra | [15:07] |
assbot | Dragonbox Pyra - Pyra Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1R1ld7r ) | [15:07] |
jurov | dunno. one can have n900 with similar specs and broken modem for free | [15:08] |
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mats | http://siliconpr0n.org/archive/doku.php?id=azonenberg:butterflylabs:bfsc100f144 | [15:38] |
thestringpuller | I hate this chart http://imgur.com/jLnrOuK | [15:41] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68600 @ 0.00050401 = 34.5751 BTC [-] {4} | [15:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13350 @ 0.00050376 = 6.7252 BTC [-] {2} | [16:00] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12310 @ 0.00050376 = 6.2013 BTC [-] {2} | [16:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18000 @ 0.00050295 = 9.0531 BTC [-] {2} | [16:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27290 @ 0.00050316 = 13.7312 BTC [+] | [16:32] |
jurov | thestringpuller: why? | [16:36] |
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thestringpuller | cause people draw causation from correlations when that's dumb | [16:36] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45978 @ 0.00050333 = 23.1421 BTC [+] {3} | [16:47] |
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asciilifeform | punkman, jurov: i can't speak for other folks, but i learned that i fucking hate thumb keyboardz | [16:47] |
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thestringpuller | http://nautil.us/blog/chernobyls-hot-mess-the-elephants-foot-is-still-lethal << whoa | [16:52] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48957 @ 0.000503 = 24.6254 BTC [-] {3} | [16:56] |
asciilifeform | look forward to more cia-mole 'stress tests' at ukr power stations. | [16:58] |
asciilifeform | see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=24-12-2015#1351630 | [16:58] |
assbot | Logged on 24-12-2015 08:51:45; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351451 << i was rather distantly downwind of that. along with most everything else in the civilised world. | [16:58] |
asciilifeform | or rather, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-12-2015#1351451 | [16:58] |
assbot | Logged on 24-12-2015 02:11:02; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/12/on-19th-day-of-christmas.html << add the 19 ukr fission plants to list-of-thing-you're-no-longer-down-wind-of | [16:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48950 @ 0.00050294 = 24.6189 BTC [-] {4} | [16:59] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51200 @ 0.00050663 = 25.9395 BTC [+] {3} | [17:02] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53900 @ 0.00050294 = 27.1085 BTC [-] {2} | [17:06] |
asciilifeform | http://qntra.net/2015/12/juniper-fiasco-greenwald-complicit-in-sustaining-mass-surveillance/#comment-33147 << lulzy | [17:06] |
assbot | Juniper Fiasco: Greenwald Complicit In Sustaining Mass Surveillance | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1RLwudD ) | [17:06] |
punkman | asciilifeform: I don't love the tiny keyboards, but as long as it's not on a touchscreen, and I'm not writing novels on it, it seems better than clunky airgapped lenovo | [17:10] |
asciilifeform | punkman: possibly | [17:11] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32306 @ 0.00050674 = 16.3707 BTC [+] | [17:16] |
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mircea_popescu | i guess the only conclusion possibvle is that su was way the fuck boring-er than ba. | [17:48] |
asciilifeform | hey most pc users ~still~ end up with keyboard jitter as entropy source | [17:48] |
asciilifeform | not much has changed. | [17:49] |
asciilifeform | 'here in the chicago meat yards, we use the entire pig. even the squeal...' | [17:49] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 165246 @ 0.00050771 = 83.897 BTC [+] {5} | [17:53] |
mircea_popescu | heh | [17:54] |
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ben_vulpes | !rate shinohai 1 trb scout | [18:04] |
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ben_vulpes | !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.shinohai.1:3a59134afe01c07de8fa56f34dd89ab3f3b572c8d9cdae951a8dc812620ca0fd | [18:05] |
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mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo totally gotta get that guy writing articles huh | [18:17] |
shinohai | ^^ ty ben_vulpes | [18:18] |
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ben_vulpes | easy come easy go | [18:29] |
ben_vulpes | long overdue in any case. | [18:29] |
mircea_popescu | so... not so easy come ? :D | [18:31] |
ben_vulpes | some girls, at first... | [18:31] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6866 @ 0.00051067 = 3.5063 BTC [+] {2} | [18:42] |
shinohai | https://roem.ru/26-12-2015/215917/no-more-google-s-public-dns/ O.o | [18:47] |
assbot | Рунет остался без Google’s Public DNS → Roem.ru ... ( http://bit.ly/1JB3T2U ) | [18:47] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15168 @ 0.00051068 = 7.746 BTC [+] {2} | [19:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27832 @ 0.00051079 = 14.2163 BTC [+] | [19:06] |
asciilifeform | run moar dns. | [19:36] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41221 @ 0.00051079 = 21.0553 BTC [+] | [20:03] |
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thestringpuller | some lulz "1 BTC = 1 BTC is an entirely meaningless statement." in reference to bitcoin being uninflatable. | [20:34] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39200 @ 0.00051079 = 20.023 BTC [+] | [20:38] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11500 @ 0.00050975 = 5.8621 BTC [-] | [20:52] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 110700 @ 0.00051133 = 56.6042 BTC [+] {4} | [21:17] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117035 @ 0.00050704 = 59.3414 BTC [-] {5} | [21:23] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 149113 @ 0.00050262 = 74.9472 BTC [-] {4} | [21:56] |
thestringpuller | https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/680902843784544256 << and so war begins | [21:56] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23944 @ 0.00050164 = 12.0113 BTC [-] {2} | [21:57] |
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mircea_popescu | eh, coinbase. | [22:34] |
thestringpuller | Well that's the nail in the coffin. | [22:35] |
thestringpuller | another nail* | [22:35] |
shinohai | Death to Coinbase | [22:39] |
mircea_popescu | not like it's doing anything anyway. fiddy bucks from sales one way or the other, who cares. | [22:40] |
thestringpuller | the rats care. although asciilifeform may be okay with living with vermin, i would prefer to have an exterminator come through. | [22:41] |
mircea_popescu | o.O | [22:42] |
shinohai | No ones surprised they would suck Gavin's cock since they already suck usg | [22:42] |
thestringpuller | ;;ticker | [22:43] |
gribble | Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 413.18, Best ask: 413.86, Bid-ask spread: 0.68000, Last trade: 413.35, 24 hour volume: 98662.17519776, 24 hour low: 405.5, 24 hour high: 456.45, 24 hour vwap: None | [22:43] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 252299 @ 0.00050101 = 126.4043 BTC [-] {4} | [23:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41901 @ 0.00050002 = 20.9513 BTC [-] | [23:07] |
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BingoBoingo | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1354143 << which one? | [23:14] |
assbot | Logged on 26-12-2015 21:13:04; mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo totally gotta get that guy writing articles huh | [23:14] |
BingoBoingo | ;;later tell asciilifeform http://qntra.net/2015/12/juniper-fiasco-greenwald-complicit-in-sustaining-mass-surveillance/#comment-33359 | [23:15] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [23:15] |
assbot | Juniper Fiasco: Greenwald Complicit In Sustaining Mass Surveillance | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pq8lIe ) | [23:15] |
mircea_popescu | beautyon, keeps writijng comment articles | [23:15] |
BingoBoingo | ah | [23:15] |
BingoBoingo | It's been a while since I last proposed this. They just seem to keep blogging on medium.com and occasionally dropping article length comments. | [23:16] |
BingoBoingo | Recruitogram sent https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/680935415432359936 | [23:22] |
mircea_popescu | weird huh | [23:34] |
BingoBoingo | Yeah, one of our first persistent non #b-a commenters, but still living on Medium.com and social media mostly | [23:36] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 189399 @ 0.00049999 = 94.6976 BTC [-] {2} | [23:48] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34701 @ 0.00049984 = 17.3449 BTC [-] | [23:49] |
BingoBoingo | https://archive.is/JWDwf | [23:50] |
assbot | rate my bulk (185 to 273 from Aug-May) this is the end - Bodybuilding.com Forums ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pq9PlK ) | [23:50] |
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