Forum logs for 25 Oct 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [02:45]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://polimedia.us/mpex || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RPclBi || a biased message: http://smpake.com || http://bit4x.com [02:45]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Tue Oct 16 15:58:37 2012 [02:45]
mircea_popescu "Putetumadre, what a great article. Insight untold and unparallelled here. Tip of my hat. Where is the Bitcoin donation button? How can I reprint this on my Web site? Please e-mail me with answers. Thanks :-)" [02:46]
mircea_popescu blogging rocks. [02:46]
thestringpuller where is that from? [02:47]
mircea_popescu my blog. [02:48]
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thestringpuller ah [02:48]
thestringpuller I posted your blog to reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/120zdj/gpg_contracts_vs_traditional_contracts_law/ [02:48]
thestringpuller just to see what redditors had to say [02:48]
thestringpuller http://i.imgur.com/t7W9K.gif - by far my favorite response [02:48]
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thestringpuller redditors are not nearly as bright as you'd want though unfortunately [02:52]
thestringpuller reddit is beginning its eternal september : [02:52]
mircea_popescu ahhh that was nice tho [02:54]
mircea_popescu it's not that they're not that bright, it's that mostly they live on welfare. [02:54]
thestringpuller when you say welfare do you mean actual welfare? [02:55]
mircea_popescu smickles http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/120zdj/gpg_contracts_vs_traditional_contracts_law/ gib a vote man [02:55]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller yes. [02:55]
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thestringpuller do that many people actually depend on welfare? [02:56]
mircea_popescu in some parts of the world over half the population [02:56]
thestringpuller Damn [02:56]
thestringpuller at that point why not just sell drugs? [02:56]
mircea_popescu hahaha [02:56]
thestringpuller like fo realz [02:56]
mircea_popescu why do you think the "war on drugs" isn't winnable [02:56]
thestringpuller i never thought the war on drugs was real [02:57]
mircea_popescu let me dig you up a nice article from a while back [02:57]
thestringpuller due to the states involvement in making it profitable for cartels [02:57]
thestringpuller I always thought the war on drugs was a cover for incarcerating people for free labor. [02:57]
mircea_popescu http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/11/the_terrible_awful_truth_about_1.html [02:57]
mircea_popescu http://coinbits.com/2012/10/24/gpg-contracts-vs-traditional-contracts-law/ what the hell is this thing supposed to be ?! [02:59]
thestringpuller Looks like a bot [03:00]
thestringpuller haha [03:00]
thestringpuller also that article had a reference to _Network_ [03:00]
thestringpuller which is an AWESOME movie [03:00]
mircea_popescu :p [03:01]
mircea_popescu pretty smart chick. [03:01]
thestringpuller the ironic thing about the movie network [03:01]
thestringpuller is when the guy went crazy on the air [03:02]
thestringpuller they just marketed it to people [03:02]
thestringpuller so the whole reason he went crazy was for moot almost [03:02]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1300 @ 0.00043539 = 0.566 BTC [+] [03:03]
mircea_popescu that's how the theory goes. [03:03]
thestringpuller So DL Hughley came on the Daily Show a few nights ago, and he was saying how he interviewed these gang members. And he said, "Why don't we hook you up with stock options of the prisons you'll be doing time in, when you do time" [03:04]
thestringpuller so he hooked up a bunch of gang members with legit stock options, which may become the standard for "hazard pay" [03:04]
iz how much does 1 incarceration really affect the value of the prison's stock though? [03:05]
iz seems like it would be pretty negligible [03:05]
mircea_popescu iz i guess it's more like the principle of the thing, like invederate gamblers owning s.dice stock [03:06]
mircea_popescu or people dealing in options owning mpoe stock. you get a discount [03:06]
iz yeah, it's a cool idea, but not terribly practical [03:06]
thestringpuller if you're incarcerated chances are you'll be doing labor for free [03:06]
rg iz: you ever hang out on Undernet? [03:06]
iz you could probably make more money by finding change in your car [03:06]
iz rg: i did for a bit, but under a different nick [03:06]
mircea_popescu iz people who go to prison aren't really the best at making money. [03:07]
rg daz? [03:07]
mircea_popescu if they were they wouldn't be there. [03:07]
rg #malice ? [03:07]
iz nope, different person probably [03:07]
thestringpuller some people who go to prison though are patsies and get paid comfortably [03:07]
rg yeah [03:07]
rg i doubt ill ever find daz again [03:07]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller a bunch ya [03:07]
thestringpuller trying to find the quote from dl hughley [03:08]
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thestringpuller okay so I think it's more the gang buys stock in the companies that own the prison's they'll be serving time in [03:09]
thestringpuller and put that as part of the hazard pay [03:09]
iz ah, that makes more sense [03:10]
thestringpuller I'll have to look into it [03:10]
thestringpuller my point is their are better ways to "game the system" [03:10]
thestringpuller there* [03:10]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: I was thinking about what yo said a few days ago. BTC is not for the average consumer. What if someone did a BTC -> Stock Exchange pass thru? [03:11]
mircea_popescu you mean stock exchange as in , nyse ? [03:11]
thestringpuller yessir [03:12]
mircea_popescu what is the benefit ? [03:12]
thestringpuller expose btc to wider markets [03:12]
mircea_popescu how does it expose btc to anything ? [03:12]
mircea_popescu people buying stocks still buy them in usd [03:12]
thestringpuller that makes btc a "closed system" then [03:13]
mircea_popescu no, not really. [03:13]
mircea_popescu the thing to do is getting future contracts with physical delivery IN BTC. [03:13]
mircea_popescu something i've been working on for what, six months now. [03:13]
mircea_popescu once that happens we're golden. [03:13]
thestringpuller physical delivery? [03:13]
mircea_popescu yes. [03:13]
thestringpuller as in like FedEx? [03:13]
mircea_popescu no lol. as in cushing, ok [03:13]
thestringpuller care to elaborate a little? [03:14]
mircea_popescu you know what future contracts are ? [03:14]
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thestringpuller of futures exchange [03:15]
thestringpuller I totally misread that sentence [03:15]
thestringpuller I'm a dumbass [03:15]
thestringpuller sorry :( [03:15]
thestringpuller oh* [03:15]
mircea_popescu lol np [03:15]
thestringpuller so you're implementing a futures option for mpex? neat :) [03:17]
thestringpuller future contracts* [03:17]
mircea_popescu trying to. [03:20]
thestringpuller You have a lot of financial knowledge for a programmer [03:20]
thestringpuller very rare [03:20]
mircea_popescu who told you i was a programmer ?! [03:20]
thestringpuller Are you a programmer? [03:20]
mircea_popescu nope. [03:20]
thestringpuller okay nvm [03:20]
thestringpuller hahaha [03:20]
mircea_popescu lol [03:20]
mircea_popescu im on the internet so therefore im a programmer :D [03:20]
thestringpuller exactly! [03:21]
thestringpuller :) [03:21]
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thestringpuller MPOE has been weird today [03:26]
thestringpuller Why does no one want satoshi dice? [03:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49196 @ 0.00043439 = 21.3703 BTC [-] [03:29]
mircea_popescu !ticker s.dice [03:29]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0001 / 0.00298639 / 0.0034 (2013520 shares, 6,013.16 BTC) [03:30]
thestringpuller stagnant like a mosquito pond [03:30]
mircea_popescu 70-80k a month isn't really much is it. [03:30]
thestringpuller !ticker s.mpoe [03:30]
assbot [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1day: 0.00043264 / 0.00043505 / 0.00043867 (1298344 shares, 564.86 BTC), 30day: 0.00025015 / 0.00037181 / 0.00046059 (86641622 shares, 32,214.45 BTC) [03:30]
mircea_popescu heh yea [03:30]
thestringpuller !ticker s.bvps [03:30]
assbot [MPEX:S.BVPS] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0027501 / 0.00345047 / 0.00355 (63482 shares, 219.04 BTC) [03:30]
thestringpuller heh [03:31]
thestringpuller lol [03:31]
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thestringpuller I must say, I've learned more about finance from the BTC community than anywhere else. [03:31]
mircea_popescu i like how the price graph tells the story of the sec panic [03:31]
gp5st the exchanges listed in the topic, why will they not encounter the same legal problems glbse ran into? [03:31]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller i always said, btc is a very cheap way to gain a good financial education [03:31]
mircea_popescu gp5st how do you know glbbq ran into legal problems ? [03:32]
gp5st mircea_popescu: i guess i just assumed they did. [03:32]
gp5st seems to be the common answer whenever asked about it [03:33]
mircea_popescu pirate had "some friends that decided to make things difficult" [03:33]
mircea_popescu what guarantees you don't have some friends that will make things difficult ? [03:33]
gp5st mircea_popescu: since that's a vauge statement i can't give anything but a vauge answer [03:33]
mircea_popescu right. [03:33]
mircea_popescu the "legal troubles" is no better and no different. [03:33]
gp5st well, moving on to more tangible topics: of the exchanges listed in the topic, which has the most volume (I'm currently looking into them, so I'm still learning) [03:34]
kakobreklaaa bit4x [03:35]
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mircea_popescu lol [03:35]
kakobreklaaa pwn. [03:35]
mircea_popescu gp5st mpex is doing ~60k atm. it was always doing about 3x to 5x glbse volume [03:35]
gp5st ok [03:35]
mircea_popescu actually towards the end it was prolly more like 10x, but heck. [03:35]
thestringpuller mpex isn't very diverse though [03:37]
thestringpuller in terms of stocks [03:37]
thestringpuller :P [03:37]
thestringpuller but then again that's not mpex's fault, there aren't a lot of btc-based companies worth listing [03:38]
mircea_popescu i was gonna say, you know i could make it VERY diverse in about half hour [03:38]
mod6 lol [03:38]
mircea_popescu and then gp5st's question would suddenly gain lots of flesh [03:38]
thestringpuller would you list bitinstant? [03:39]
thestringpuller if they were allowed to be listed on MPEX [03:40]
thestringpuller (based on their lawyers discretion) [03:40]
gp5st what are the 3 companies with stock listed? [03:40]
mod6 S.MPOE | S.BVPS | S.DICE [03:41]
gp5st yes, i see those:) what/who are they though [03:41]
gp5st nvm [03:41]
gp5st there is a details link i missed before [03:41]
mircea_popescu gp5st s.mpoe is the conglomerate of mpoe (the options broker) and mpex (the stock exchange). the historical contract is found here : [03:43]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/sa-ne-jucam-de-a-investitiile-n-bitcoini/#comment-78745 [03:43]
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mircea_popescu s.dice is satoshi dice. s.bvps is bitvps, rg's hosting company [03:43]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller in principle yes, but a lot depends on what contract can be agreed upon. [03:44]
thestringpuller I'm just wondering more of, if a BTC based company becomes profitable and takes VC money, does that mean it's bound by regulation now?? [03:44]
thestringpuller Or can it still exist in the "gray-sphere" [03:45]
mircea_popescu i guess that'd also depend on the contract they entered into with the vcs [03:45]
mircea_popescu there's no "gray sphere" [03:45]
mircea_popescu there's a tiny fraction of the world called the united states, and a much larger, comparatively more important rest. [03:45]
thestringpuller LOL [03:46]
thestringpuller Does everyone hate Murica? [03:46]
mircea_popescu why hate ? [03:46]
mircea_popescu this is like new yorkers thinking the us=new york. [03:46]
thestringpuller LOL [03:46]
mircea_popescu there's 10 mn people living in new york and 290 mn people NOT living in new york. [03:46]
mircea_popescu just so there's 300mn people living in the us and 6,8 bn people NOT living in the us [03:47]
thestringpuller New York is a good manifestation of American capitalism... [03:47]
mircea_popescu these days it's mostly a sad manifestation of american welfarism, but anyway. [03:47]
thestringpuller lol everybody on welfare! [03:47]
thestringpuller except jon steward [03:47]
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mircea_popescu you can't tell me that something is a manifestation of capitalism when that something is traditionally blue [03:48]
thestringpuller there are a lot of welfare recipients... [03:49]
mircea_popescu starving "artists" + university "students" => socialist environment. [03:50]
thestringpuller *facepalm* I laugh inside because the stereotype is true. [03:51]
mircea_popescu myeah. [03:51]
thestringpuller There is a section of Atlanta just like that. Full of new age retro hippies. [03:51]
mircea_popescu kinda fun to hang out with, [03:51]
mircea_popescu but kinda difficult to take seriously. [03:51]
thestringpuller "wanna by my art maaaan?" no get a job hippie [03:52]
thestringpuller The coinbase funding is dumb. Coinbase is not even that good, it's all hype. Blockchain.info has so many more features... [03:53]
thestringpuller (random topic) [03:53]
mircea_popescu uhhk? [03:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7772 @ 0.00043539 = 3.3839 BTC [+] [03:54]
thestringpuller they got a bunch of funding from ycombinator [03:54]
thestringpuller almost 1M and it's pretty much blockchain's wallet with "prospective features" [03:55]
mircea_popescu im not even sure what coinbase is, so i guesshey may have a point lol [03:55]
thestringpuller blockchain.info* [03:55]
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gp5st i'm sorry if i'm being a pain: how do the options work on mpex? [03:56]
mircea_popescu gp5st you're not a pain, kinda what this chan is for. do you know options in general ? [03:57]
gp5st a little bit. i buy an option @ a price and then when it expires i need to buy the underlying thing at the price i bought the option at? [03:58]
mircea_popescu that's a future. [03:58]
gp5st ah, then i guess i do not [03:58]
mircea_popescu options convey the right but not the obligation to either buy (calls) or sell (puts) at the strike price [03:58]
mircea_popescu mpex options are american-style, so that option is there all through till expiration (unlike european style, where option only exists at expiration) [03:59]
thestringpuller what's the premium on the options [03:59]
mircea_popescu well what the bot asks, neh ? [04:00]
gp5st ic [04:00]
thestringpuller Haha [04:00]
mircea_popescu gp5st anyway, a good idea is to read up on options in general, mpex is pretty much the same. [04:01]
gp5st so if i buy one $1/btc option, what happens on fri? i can sell or buy what with it? [04:01]
gp5st yeah, i'm in the process of trying to learn about how financial markets work [04:01]
mircea_popescu option, call or put ? [04:02]
gp5st there is a lot there to learn [04:02]
mircea_popescu there is a lot to learn. as i was saying, bitcoin is a very cheap way to learn finance, comparatively. so, good for you. [04:02]
mircea_popescu bitcoin is to finance what computer fly simulators are to pilots i'd say. [04:02]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu so btc can be used to train people to be good traders? [04:04]
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mircea_popescu sure. [04:05]
mircea_popescu if i ran an investment bank/hedge fund what i'd do is give all interns 1k btc, hire the top x ones by final btc [04:05]
thestringpuller that's how I found my interns [04:06]
thestringpuller gave them all 1 btc [04:06]
thestringpuller whoever brings back 2 btc gets a job [04:06]
mircea_popescu haha yeah [04:06]
thestringpuller ironically the only person who succeeded was a 17 year old girl who is a physics/econ major... [04:07]
mircea_popescu hire her. [04:07]
thestringpuller already did. hopefully she can help grow my startup [04:08]
thestringpuller or at least the btc sector [04:08]
mircea_popescu 17 yo girls with physics/econ can make anything grow. [04:08]
thestringpuller XD [04:08]
thestringpuller that's what she said! [04:08]
mircea_popescu "And saying that economics is the central component of western cultural identity and that indigenous people's downfall is because they simply implemented it the wrong way is beyond retarded." [04:09]
mircea_popescu lolz. teh reddit socialists at the rescue! [04:09]
thestringpuller reddit is eternal september mang [04:10]
thestringpuller kinda sucks [04:10]
mircea_popescu this promises to be fun. [04:11]
gp5st what are the legal ramifications for listing on mpex? would a us-based company be able to put shares on it? [04:11]
mircea_popescu gp5st i'm really not qualified to discuss that. us-based company should make its own determination. [04:11]
mircea_popescu however, if that company isn't principally taking a btc revenue it makes little sense to list on mpex [04:12]
gp5st i was just curious what the limitations dice and bvps had [04:12]
gp5st i shouldn't have made it so us-centric [04:12]
mircea_popescu (for purely accounting reasons, shares in btc, revenues in non-btc, makes a mess) [04:12]
thestringpuller do they tax BTC income yet? [04:12]
mircea_popescu like everything else, once you realise a profit. [04:12]
thestringpuller if your revenue stream was comprised of 100% BTC, would you claim it? [04:13]
gp5st but only a profit from in a recognized currency, like usd or eur, right? [04:13]
thestringpuller or just be like "uh it's play money" [04:13]
thestringpuller I know it depends on the country [04:13]
mircea_popescu gp5st if you sell btc and now have extra eur or w/e you'd declare it like any other revenue [04:13]
thestringpuller seems like the best place to make a btc business is romania... [04:14]
mircea_popescu as long as you keep it as btc afaik in most jurisdictions there's no declaration [04:14]
gp5st yes, but if i buy a stock with btc, and sell it for more btc... [04:14]
gp5st thestringpuller: how come? [04:14]
gp5st gotchya mircea_popescu [04:14]
thestringpuller smickles said the romanian lawyers see BTC as play money [04:20]
gp5st take care [04:20]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3875 @ 0.00043439 = 1.6833 BTC [-] [04:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33625 @ 0.0004338 = 14.5865 BTC [-] [04:20]
dub the war on drugs is not winnable because nobody is trying to win it, like the war on terror [04:20]
mircea_popescu nobody is trying because there's nothing to try. [04:20]
dub its not about winning its about the war [04:21]
dub if the war was won there would need to be another war which is just more work, best keep no winning the existing ones [04:21]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: so will there ever be intermediate options? [04:25]
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thestringpuller like 9.50 [04:25]
thestringpuller or 10.50 etc [04:25]
mircea_popescu there were. [04:25]
mircea_popescu a few months ago btc was ~5 and options went 1 to 10 at a .5 step [04:26]
thestringpuller people who did puts at 12 before the glbbq fiasco.... [04:26]
thestringpuller lucky bastards [04:27]
mircea_popescu lol [04:27]
mircea_popescu back in august i actually booked a ~4k loss [04:27]
mircea_popescu due to that post-pirate slosh [04:27]
thestringpuller given MPOE is the options broker, would you ever let third parties exercise the options? [04:28]
thestringpuller to like hedge your risks? [04:28]
thestringpuller err [04:29]
thestringpuller sell* [04:29]
mircea_popescu of course ? [04:29]
mircea_popescu there's both a mkopt and a split option implemented, you know this ? [04:29]
thestringpuller I'm accessing via coinbr [04:29]
thestringpuller I don't have enough cashflow for a legit account [04:29]
mircea_popescu i think jurov has those too neh ? [04:30]
thestringpuller Don't think he put in MKOPT [04:30]
mircea_popescu (then again, if you don't have the cash flow to go directly to mpex it may be the case you're not well served by underwriting options) [04:30]
thestringpuller underwriting in what sense? [04:31]
mircea_popescu when you create and sell an option [04:31]
mircea_popescu this is called underwriting [04:31]
thestringpuller I usually relate underwriting to insurance [04:32]
thestringpuller I personally wouldn't sell contracts [04:32]
thestringpuller I would buy them [04:32]
mircea_popescu a well if you buy them then im sure coinbr has buy.sell [04:32]
thestringpuller yea [04:34]
thestringpuller I guess I'm overanalyzing. [04:34]
thestringpuller Sorry for being dumb [04:34]
thestringpuller lot of people wanting to call at $12 [04:35]
mircea_popescu eh asking q's isn't that dumb. [04:43]
thestringpuller i guess refusing to listen is dumb [04:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16475 @ 0.0004338 = 7.1469 BTC [-] [04:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7465 @ 0.00043351 = 3.2362 BTC [-] [04:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6038 @ 0.00043336 = 2.6166 BTC [-] [04:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2822 @ 0.00043313 = 1.2223 BTC [-] [04:45]
thestringpuller ugh [04:46]
thestringpuller i shouldn't have bought at 436 [04:46]
mircea_popescu ahahah [04:47]
mircea_popescu man, nobody succeeds in timing the market. [04:47]
thestringpuller not in bitcoin world [04:48]
thestringpuller not as easy as AAPL [04:48]
thestringpuller there was a guy talking about buying puts on aapl today [04:48]
thestringpuller 740 -> 640 in < 1 month [04:49]
mircea_popescu lemme dig [04:49]
thestringpuller not on irc [04:49]
thestringpuller on the tv [04:50]
thestringpuller lol [04:50]
thestringpuller Then i told chaang noi while you weren't here [04:50]
thestringpuller lol [04:50]
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thestringpuller so [04:53]
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thestringpuller jonathanDoe is flooding [04:54]
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thestringpuller JonathanDoe: stop flooding [04:54]
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Azelphur kakobreklaaa: ^ [04:54]
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JonathanDoe fuck urself [04:54]
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JonathanDoe fuck urself [04:54]
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JonathanDoe fuck urself [04:54]
JonathanDoe fuck urself [04:54]
JonathanDoe fuck urself [04:54]
JonathanDoe fuck urself [04:54]
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thestringpuller are there any ops to ban him? [04:54]
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JonathanDoe maybe gcrackswell [04:55]
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JonathanDoe maybe gcrackswell [04:55]
JonathanDoe maybe gcrackswell [04:55]
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JonathanDoe and cunt-jr [04:55]
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JonathanDoe and cunt-jr [04:55]
JonathanDoe and cunt-jr [04:55]
JonathanDoe and cunt-jr [04:55]
JonathanDoe and cunt-jr [04:55]
JonathanDoe and cunt-jr [04:55]
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JonathanDoe fuckin pedophile and sister fucker [04:55]
JonathanDoe fuckin pedophile and sister fucker [04:55]
JonathanDoe fuckin pedophile and sister fucker [04:55]
JonathanDoe fuckin pedophile and sister fucker [04:55]
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pigeons wiw, maybe supadupa was right all along. we're too hard on him. he's just misunderstood. [04:56]
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thestringpuller are you mad about something or just bored? [04:56]
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SupaDupa I'm not Bi-Polar I'm Bi-Winning! [04:56]
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SupaDupa I'm not Bi-Polar I'm Bi-Winning! [04:56]
SupaDupa I'm not Bi-Polar I'm Bi-Winning! [04:56]
SupaDupa I'm not Bi-Polar I'm Bi-Winning! [04:56]
SupaDupa I'm not Bi-Polar I'm Bi-Winning! [04:56]
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SupaDupa and By-Winning! [04:56]
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SupaDupa I'm tired of pretending that my life is not WINNING! [04:57]
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SupaDupa every second of the day WINNING! [04:57]
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SupaDupa can't handle this losers [04:57]
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SupaDupa winning! [04:57]
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thestringpuller Sound's like you are a loser :) [04:57]
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SupaDupa buy bye! [04:57]
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SupaDupa buh* [04:57]
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SupaDupa hey gcrackswell [04:57]
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SupaDupa wsup faggot? [04:58]
SupaDupa hey gcrackswell [04:58]
SupaDupa wsup faggot? [04:58]
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SupaDupa hey gcrackswell [04:58]
SupaDupa wsup faggot? [04:58]
SupaDupa hey gcrackswell [04:58]
SupaDupa wsup faggot? [04:58]
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SupaDupa hey gcrackswell [04:58]
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SupaDupa wsup faggot? [04:58]
SupaDupa hey gcrackswell [04:58]
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SupaDupa wsup faggot? [04:58]
SupaDupa hey gcrackswell [04:58]
SupaDupa wsup faggot? [04:58]
SupaDupa hey gcrackswell [04:58]
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xisalty SupaDupa, pls stop [04:58]
SupaDupa wsup faggot? [04:58]
SupaDupa hey gcrackswell [04:58]
SupaDupa wsup faggot? [04:58]
SupaDupa hey gcrackswell [04:58]
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xisalty SupaDupa, pls stop [04:58]
Ssateneth LOL [04:58]
Azelphur haha [04:58]
Ssateneth flooded out [04:58]
gmaxwell he does that a lot too. Not even a very competent flooder. :( [04:58]
mod6 haha [04:58]
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SupaDupa fuckin faggot... [04:59]
SupaDupa sister fucking fucking cunt [04:59]
xisalty Supa [04:59]
SupaDupa what? [04:59]
pigeons someone needs a hug [04:59]
xisalty this is why you cant get bitcoins [04:59]
SupaDupa I need 5 bitcoins [04:59]
xisalty be nice then [04:59]
SupaDupa everyone can suck my balls [04:59]
xisalty and maybe peope will trade [05:00]
SupaDupa besides xisalty [05:00]
SupaDupa and cyco [05:00]
SupaDupa and abbeytim [05:00]
gmaxwell Well technically you need a lot more than 5 BTC. [05:00]
SupaDupa and a few others [05:00]
xisalty pay back loans too [05:00]
SupaDupa stfu faggot [05:00]
SupaDupa no one is talking to you [05:00]
SupaDupa @gcrackswell [05:00]
xisalty ^this behaivoiur [05:00]
xisalty plz stahp [05:00]
thestringpuller SupaDupa the loan defaulter [05:00]
SupaDupa ur mom [05:01]
thestringpuller pay back your loans dead beat [05:01]
thestringpuller get a job [05:01]
SupaDupa is a loan defaulted [05:01]
xisalty he paid back mine on default [05:01]
xisalty with extra [05:01]
SupaDupa I loaned her my balls she never gave back [05:01]
SupaDupa WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK I'M TRYING TO DO FAGGOT! [05:01]
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SupaDupa gtfo bitskankly [05:01]
SupaDupa ur food is shit [05:01]
SupaDupa and so is your husband [05:01]
* thestringpuller gets popcorn [05:03]
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thestringpuller I hope you're no older than 18 [05:03]
SupaDupa I'm 25 [05:03]
thestringpuller if so, society has really crumbled [05:03]
SupaDupa but it's ok [05:03]
SupaDupa I'm built good [05:03]
thestringpuller so you're a manchild [05:03]
SupaDupa ur mom is a manchild [05:03]
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thestringpuller a 25 year old with a 9 year old's mind [05:04]
SupaDupa I have an IQ of 186 [05:04]
SupaDupa and I piss SQL and shit Source Code [05:04]
gmaxwell thestringpuller: good, thats the right technique, no words with more than 4 letters. [05:05]
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pigeons so clever. he joins and then leaves [05:05]
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Azelphur for someone that has such a high IQ he has so much problems getting money xD [05:05]
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thestringpuller he's homeless and bored [05:05]
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gmaxwell Azelphur: I think this is the IRC version of flinging poop. [05:05]
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thestringpuller probably logged in at some starbucks [05:06]
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Azelphur gmaxwell: indeed [05:06]
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Azelphur lol [05:07]
mod6 where are the opz [05:07]
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gmaxwell interesting that xisalty vanished at the same time... [05:07]
thestringpuller call upon the freenode ops [05:07]
Azelphur for someone with a 186 iq he has a big problem understanding sendq [05:07]
thestringpuller sendq [05:07]
thestringpuller lol [05:07]
SupaDupa I'm a legend everywhere that I go , every botnet distro , every bitcoin ho losing their coins yo! [05:07]
SupaDupa I'm a legend everywhere that I go , every botnet distro , every bitcoin ho losing their coins yo! [05:07]
SupaDupa I'm a legend everywhere that I go , every botnet distro , every bitcoin ho losing their coins yo! [05:07]
SupaDupa I'm a legend everywhere that I go , every botnet distro , every bitcoin ho losing their coins yo! [05:07]
SupaDupa I'm a legend everywhere that I go , every botnet distro , every bitcoin ho losing their coins yo! [05:07]
SupaDupa I'm a legend everywhere that I go , every botnet distro , every bitcoin ho losing their coins yo! [05:07]
SupaDupa I'm a legend everywhere that I go , every botnet distro , every bitcoin ho losing their coins yo! [05:07]
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copumpkin sigh [05:08]
copumpkin kakobreklaaa [05:08]
Azelphur yep, still has problems xD [05:08]
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gmaxwell Azelphur: IQ is relative to a population, the reference point for him is a chimp. [05:08]
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Azelphur gmaxwell: ah :) [05:08]
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gmaxwell :P mighty smart chimp! [05:08]
thestringpuller Why can't we have smart scammers [05:08]
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thestringpuller and smart criminals [05:08]
thestringpuller like pablo escobar [05:08]
copumpkin he's failing rather miserably at being a good spammer [05:08]
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gmaxwell thestringpuller: no natural selection for that. [05:08]
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Azelphur thestringpuller: isn't that pirateat40 [05:09]
thestringpuller pirateat40 is going to jail for tax evasion [05:09]
Azelphur smart scammer [05:09]
Azelphur :P [05:09]
gmaxwell Azelphur: the guy with the totally transparent scam? He said smart, not effective.. and thats the point. [05:09]
Azelphur lol [05:09]
Azelphur he's actually going to jail now? [05:09]
QuickBitcoins Crime against humanity. You all are aware right? [05:09]
SupaDupa Can't stop lending me coins and never gettin them back! All the the fuckin bitcoin noobs fists wrapped around my sack! [05:09]
thestringpuller You have no nuts. [05:10]
unicron thestringpuller: he is? haha, i've been out of the loop [05:10]
QuickBitcoins Supa [05:10]
Azelphur lol [05:10]
QuickBitcoins Why are those coins gone in the first place? [05:10]
thestringpuller You were neutered as a child to prevent stupidity from running rampant in this world. [05:10]
SupaDupa Can't stop lending me coins and never gettin them back! All the the fuckin bitcoin noobs fists wrapped around my sack! [05:10]
SupaDupa Can't stop lending me coins and never gettin them back! All the the fuckin bitcoin noobs fists wrapped around my sack! [05:10]
SupaDupa Can't stop lending me coins and never gettin them back! All the the fuckin bitcoin noobs fists wrapped around my sack! [05:10]
SupaDupa Can't stop lending me coins and never gettin them back! All the the fuckin bitcoin noobs fists wrapped around my sack! [05:10]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4800 @ 0.00043539 = 2.0899 BTC [+] [05:10]
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thestringpuller finally mpoe goes up [05:10]
QuickBitcoins Why are those coins gone in the first place? Supa? [05:11]
SupaDupa cause [05:11]
SupaDupa I didn't pay them back [05:11]
thestringpuller cause you're dumb [05:11]
SupaDupa and can't pay them back [05:11]
gmaxwell thestringpuller: they knew that all the girls go for a guy with explosive IRC flooding. [05:11]
thestringpuller and spent it on heroin [05:11]
QuickBitcoins Why did you have to spend them? [05:11]
SupaDupa and won't pay them back [05:11]
SupaDupa mmm heroin [05:11]
SupaDupa you know it dude [05:11]
SupaDupa http://supa.fii.me/BitcoinLoansNEW.txt [05:12]
pigeons SupaDupa: see a doctor, seriously [05:12]
SupaDupa http://supa.fii.me/BitcoinLoansOLD.txt [05:12]
SupaDupa already did [05:12]
SupaDupa doctor says I'm crazy [05:12]
SupaDupa gave me some happy bills and shit [05:12]
gmaxwell careful loading those links people. [05:12]
gmaxwell load via tor only. [05:12]
thestringpuller they don't resolve [05:12]
thestringpuller nslookup lol [05:13]
SupaDupa http://supa.fii.me/PayPalLoans.txt [05:13]
SupaDupa they resolve just fine cunt [05:13]
gmaxwell The name resolves. [05:13]
pigeons what about litecoin loans? [05:13]
SupaDupa http://supa.fii.me/LitecoinLoans.txt [05:13]
pigeons there [05:13]
thestringpuller why would anyone lend this guy money? [05:13]
thestringpuller was he a nice guy a long time ago in a galaxy far away? [05:14]
QuickBitcoins If he was [05:14]
QuickBitcoins Why wouldnt he be anymore? [05:14]
SupaDupa cause I'm CRAZYYYYY! [05:15]
SupaDupa Don't mind if I do! [05:15]
Azelphur he's probably just some kid that doesn't get enough attention so goes looking for it on IRC [05:15]
smickles EskimoBob: translation in pm [05:15]
Azelphur I feel sorry for him [05:15]
thestringpuller smickles! [05:15]
thestringpuller my all time favorite person [05:15]
smickles :D [05:16]
QuickBitcoins Keep it up guys [05:16]
QuickBitcoins You keep screwing with supa you wont see any of those loans [05:16]
QuickBitcoins Best not to poke the people that have your money [05:17]
thestringpuller just write it off and make more money [05:17]
thestringpuller there is such thing as an "acceptable loss" [05:17]
gmaxwell thestringpuller: because he's nice for ten minute spans of time, and evades the bans and not everone knows about this BS. [05:18]
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smickles mircea_popescu: i threw an upvote at that reddit link [05:20]
mircea_popescu bah i ain' finding it. [05:20]
mircea_popescu smickles remember http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/finante-inalte-2/ ? [05:20]
SupaDupa $8.20 more paid off [05:21]
SupaDupa http://supa.fii.me/PayPalLoans.txt [05:21]
SupaDupa!*@* added to ignore list. [05:22]
Chaang-Noi lol, some action here now... not what i expected, though it never is in btc land [05:22]
QuickBitcoins If I recall his girlfriend told him that they couldnt get their cat back unless he got away from his parents or something. [05:24]
smickles mircea_popescu: heh, that's a nice image in that article [05:24]
mircea_popescu :) [05:24]
QuickBitcoins So he spent people's money trying to get away from their abuse, but they followed him, so now he's apparently losing his shit. [05:24]
mircea_popescu trying to dig up an old post for to show thestringpuller but fuck me if i can find anything in my blog ;/ [05:24]
smickles mircea_popescu: and now, for perspective, over 3/4 'cashed out' before glbse went down, and I still have 38 (or so) btc to distribute [05:25]
mircea_popescu teh stuff legends are made of [05:25]
noagendamarket * smickles is now known as FooDSt4mP [05:25]
noagendamarket * FooDSt4mP is now known as smickles :O [05:25]
Azelphur smickles: what's that for, MPOE? [05:25]
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noagendamarket be careful :P [05:25]
smickles Azelphur: yeah [05:25]
Azelphur smickles: you got shareholder data? [05:25]
smickles noagendamarket: in the context of the time, it was a funny and easily understandable joke ;) [05:26]
noagendamarket :) [05:26]
mircea_popescu aaa found it. thestringpuller re AAPL etc : http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/res/14744.html [05:26]
smickles Azelphur: not that I know of, i'll check for emails [05:27]
Azelphur smickles: ah, was just asking because you said you are distributing btc [05:27]
dub lol check mail [05:28]
smickles Azelphur: last email from glbse was on oct 14 [05:28]
dub We regret to inform you that GPUMAX will be permanently closing [05:28]
dub well derp [05:28]
mircea_popescu old news ? [05:28]
smickles yeah [05:28]
Azelphur dub:old news is old [05:28]
Azelphur yea, I wish nefario would hurry up already [05:28]
dub yes well nefario is the only other person with this address [05:28]
smickles Azelphur: I think glbse confused you ;) they gave some btc back, so i have it to distribute, but no info to perform that action [05:29]
Azelphur my address is my hostname [05:29]
* Azelphur adorns his captain obvious hat [05:29]
dub not much need to check daily [05:29]
Azelphur smickles: ah, I see [05:29]
smickles I don't understand the delay at all [05:29]
* dub hopes Azelphur doesn't need a got fucking owned hat any time soon [05:29]
Azelphur me either [05:29]
Azelphur dub: indeed, at this rate it's sounding like I'll need one [05:29]
smickles here's a question, what do i do with the btc when nef doesn't ever give out shareholder info? [05:30]
Azelphur by pirate I'm down ~150, by GLBSE I'm (currently) down about 500, and clipse got me for ~50 [05:30]
mircea_popescu clipse ?! [05:30]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: yep [05:30]
mircea_popescu fill me in [05:30]
dub im into clipse for ~30 [05:30]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: he's scammer tagged now [05:30]
Azelphur he stole miner funds [05:30]
mircea_popescu how ? [05:30]
Azelphur by...not giving them to us [05:30]
Azelphur and leaving [05:30]
dub ran a pps+ 'mining pool' that turned out to probably have just been a PPT [05:30]
mircea_popescu dub yes ok, but.. no daily payout ? [05:31]
Azelphur the age old "Lol I've got your money goodbye" attack [05:31]
dub it was for a while, then problems its coming soon, then nothing [05:31]
mircea_popescu heh mk. [05:31]
Azelphur mircea_popescu: you friends with him / have his address? people want to go after him legally [05:31]
mircea_popescu i don't even know who he is [05:31]
Azelphur ah [05:31]
mircea_popescu (i'm not a miner so i'm a little out of that loop) [05:32]
Azelphur hehe [05:32]
smickles ;;gpg info clipse [05:32]
gribble No such user registered. [05:32]
smickles :o [05:32]
Azelphur if GLBSE screws me as well, I'll be pretty bummed [05:32]
Azelphur because that'll be pretty much all my money gone o/ [05:32]
smickles :( [05:32]
mircea_popescu look on the bright side : you saved 20 btc on a mpex acct. [05:32]
Azelphur :( indeed [05:32]
Azelphur I have 20btc on mpex? o.O [05:32]
mircea_popescu no, i mean, by not getting one, you saved 20 btc. [05:33]
pigeons you didn't hear? glbse lost the rest of the funds and database to a chinese relic hunter who guessed their mtgox api key [05:33]
Azelphur I have a MPEx account xD [05:33]
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Azelphur but you gave me it for free in the early days [05:33]
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Azelphur I have 11465 satoshidice shares, o/ [05:34]
dub pigeons: its ok, if neafrio asks real nice he'll give it back [05:34]
Azelphur have they gone up much since the ipo? [05:34]
pigeons no but they pay dividends [05:34]
mircea_popescu Azelphur a ok! [05:34]
mircea_popescu forgot lol [05:34]
mircea_popescu nah, about the same [05:35]
mircea_popescu !ticker s.dice [05:35]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0001 / 0.00298639 / 0.0034 (2013520 shares, 6,013.16 BTC) [05:35]
mircea_popescu actually a little under [05:35]
Azelphur o/ [05:35]
Azelphur me and investments clearly wern't meant to mix [05:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31576 @ 0.00043313 = 13.6765 BTC [-] [05:36]
noagendamarket hmm goat got banned from bitcointalk [05:42]
noagendamarket whats up with that ? [05:42]
mircea_popescu o ? [05:43]
noagendamarket https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=120102.0 [05:44]
noagendamarket its a perma-ban [05:44]
mircea_popescu is this some sort of new policy ? [05:45]
pigeons when you threaten to sue theymos it is [05:45]
Azelphur why are we threatening to sue theymos? [05:45]
noagendamarket yeah dont threaten to sue theymos lol [05:45]
pigeons we're not. goat is because theymos was involved in glbse [05:45]
mircea_popescu odd tho, did he also ban my pr girl ? [05:45]
noagendamarket doubt it [05:46]
mircea_popescu well then wtf, she STARTED the give theymos a scammer tag thread [05:46]
mircea_popescu they banned rarity for posting in it ? [05:46]
pigeons sorry, even your girl isn't as trolly as goat [05:46]
mircea_popescu my girl isn't trolly at all [05:46]
noagendamarket lol [05:46]
mircea_popescu she just gets people's goat. [05:47]
noagendamarket notsureifserious [05:47]
pigeons or mircea_popescu [05:47]
mircea_popescu lol [05:47]
mircea_popescu kinda weaksauce drama tho. [05:48]
mircea_popescu i mean, can we stoop to "why was x banned" level after the "omg, 6mn in bitcoins stoled" this august ?! [05:49]
Chaang-Noi i think i got banned cuz i told theymos he was wrong in telling people not to send back the double paymensts they got from nefario [05:49]
mircea_popescu did you threaten to sue ? [05:49]
Chaang-Noi i did not [05:49]
Chaang-Noi i said people had the options to sue glbse owner [05:49]
Chaang-Noi theymos thinks he is protected, but he is not [05:50]
Chaang-Noi well had had atleast... [05:50]
Chaang-Noi he said it was unfair he is liable for nefarios actions [05:50]
Chaang-Noi i also questioned that since nefario had over 50% of the vote why he could not shut down glbse [05:50]
Chaang-Noi i think theymos has gone a bit crazy with the scammer tag/bann hammer abuse cuz of his stress with glbse [05:50]
Chaang-Noi he i acting like nefario lol [05:51]
Chaang-Noi is* [05:51]
noagendamarket technically Magical Tux is allowing unlicensed securities to be promoted on his forum. [05:51]
Chaang-Noi yeah, i paid for advertising there [05:51]
Azelphur why would you tell people not to return the double payments? [05:51]
Chaang-Noi for them [05:51]
Chaang-Noi i did not, THEYMOS told people not to return double payments [05:51]
Chaang-Noi i said theymos was wrong [05:51]
Azelphur oh, wow [05:51]
mircea_popescu ya but why ? [05:51]
Chaang-Noi yeah [05:51]
Azelphur yea, theymos is getting really odd [05:51]
noagendamarket yeah theymos told people not to return payments [05:52]
Chaang-Noi then i get perma banned [05:52]
Chaang-Noi really theymos can fuck himself [05:52]
Azelphur and marked as a scammer? [05:52]
Chaang-Noi he is trying to make the glbse situation drag out [05:52]
Chaang-Noi im not a scammer [05:52]
Chaang-Noi no scammer tag [05:52]
Azelphur ah [05:52]
Chaang-Noi just perrma banned [05:52]
Chaang-Noi no warning or explination [05:52]
Azelphur fun [05:52]
Chaang-Noi seems you can do anything on that forum other than tell theymos when he fucked up [05:53]
Chaang-Noi oh well [05:53]
mircea_popescu this theory suffers of the fact that they've not banned my girl. [05:53]
Azelphur I'm starting to notice in the bitcoin community there so many people who think they are immune to the law [05:53]
Chaang-Noi yeah [05:54]
noagendamarket well...the police dont even investigate if your house gets burgled why would they care if your bitcoins get stolen ? [05:54]
Chaang-Noi there are differnt levels of police [05:54]
Chaang-Noi the SEC does care [05:54]
mircea_popescu depends where. here they investigate. [05:54]
noagendamarket not really lol [05:54]
Azelphur noagendamarket: you can bet they will start caring about unlicensed securities [05:54]
noagendamarket unlicensed securities, tax avoidance and money laundering yes [05:55]
Azelphur yea [05:55]
Azelphur that leaked shareholder info was ridiculous [05:55]
dub noagendamarket: I got burgled a couple years back, the dude then tried to fraud my bank using a debit card in mail I'd never opened [05:56]
noagendamarket :O [05:56]
Chaang-Noi leaked shareholder info? [05:56]
Chaang-Noi on glbse or glbse assets? [05:56]
smickles why is it that EVE and secondlive companies get a pass [05:56]
smickles (from the sec) [05:56]
Azelphur Chaang-Noi: I mean the meeting, sorry for being unclear [05:56]
noagendamarket smickles because they dont exist physically [05:56]
dub noagendamarket: bank calls me out of the blue 'mr x your card replacement card is with a courier it will be iwth you shortly', I go 'oh good please confirm the address',, call cops with current location of burglar. carefactor 0 [05:56]
Azelphur we don't exist physically? [05:57]
Chaang-Noi ahh, i loled when that guy posted that meeting on the forum, i think thats why i got perma banned to, cuz i read it and said how week it made them all look. [05:57]
dub noagendamarket: they called me back 6 weeks later [05:57]
Azelphur Chaang-Noi: xD [05:57]
smickles noagendamarket: that doesn't make much sense, the people running them exist physically [05:57]
smickles and if it's 'physicality' that is the bar, s2cm and mpoe.etf were gold [05:58]
noagendamarket yeah but second life isnt going to affect tyhe central bankers lol [05:58]
Chaang-Noi not if they are female smickles :) [05:58]
pigeons 1. they are simulations and games. 2. the amounts of value are relatively small [05:58]
Azelphur I know a guy who sold his house, put the money in his bank, and when he presented his passport to the bank to show ID for a large deposit, they took it and scanned it. Later someone walked in complete with a fake passport and cleaned out his account for £150k iirc [05:58]
mircea_popescu 2 can never be a point pigeons. [05:58]
noagendamarket julian assange didnt get charges untill wikileaks embarrassed the bankers [05:58]
pigeons it is always a point mircea_popescu [05:58]
mircea_popescu show me a law that says it's ok to steal as long as you don't steal a lot. [05:59]
Azelphur He was lucky, he went to make a cash withdrawal and his account balance was zero and the bank was able to stop the transaction before it left the country, he got all his money back [05:59]
pigeons the whole law on whether you are a msb in usa for example is if you are under X a day [05:59]
Azelphur was apparently about an hour away from leaving the country [05:59]
mircea_popescu o, we're talking usa again ? [05:59]
mircea_popescu what's with this obsession. [05:59]
* thestringpuller starts singing My Girl [05:59]
pigeons we aren't talking about stealing, we are talking about your papers please [05:59]
mircea_popescu myeah. [05:59]
noagendamarket technically its not stealing when you hand your cash over to someonbe voluntarily [06:00]
copumpkin just fraud [06:00]
pigeons well im not talking about fraud either [06:00]
noagendamarket yes [06:00]
mircea_popescu im sorry to burst everyone's bubble, but contrary to the widely held belief in conspiratist circles, enforcement of the various financial regulations is traditionally very softgloved. [06:00]
copumpkin [22:59:37] papers please [06:01]
copumpkin OMG FASCIST [06:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8429 @ 0.00043539 = 3.6699 BTC [+] [06:01]
thestringpuller YES [06:01]
thestringpuller go up [06:01]
copumpkin NAZI SOCIALIST COMMUNIST [06:01]
mircea_popescu lol mpoe has a fan [06:01]
copumpkin don't leave it on overnight [06:01]
copumpkin you might die [06:01]
smickles !ticker s.dice [06:01]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0 / 0 / 0 (0 shares, 0 BTC), 30day: 0.0001 / 0.00298639 / 0.0034 (2013520 shares, 6,013.16 BTC) [06:02]
Azelphur If I was nefario and my lawyer told me that it was time to shut down or face possible jail time, I'd be shutting down too [06:02]
noagendamarket why are we arguing about it ewhen they are about to start flying 30 000 drones over the citizens lol [06:02]
Chaang-Noi lol at fan joke :) [06:02]
* thestringpuller puts his lighter in the air [06:02]
* copumpkin is in the wrong line of work! he should be a comedian [06:02]
mircea_popescu copumpkin that korea thing ? [06:02]
mircea_popescu insanity. [06:02]
copumpkin oppan gangnam style [06:02]
copumpkin but yeah [06:02]
noagendamarket Azelphur there is no proof he even spoke to one lol [06:03]
noagendamarket inb4 tinfoil hat [06:03]
Azelphur noagendamarket: indeed, but it's fairly obvious that he did [06:03]
mircea_popescu no but think about it. ask any lawyer if it is "advisable" to drive your car [06:03]
noagendamarket its fairly obvious he is super fucking paranoid [06:03]
mircea_popescu he'll tell you that well... you face possible jail time and ideally you should not drive your car [06:03]
mircea_popescu WHICH IS TRUE [06:03]
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noagendamarket also he's lazy and cbf dealing with it anymore. [06:04]
mircea_popescu people somehow irresponsibly don't seem to retain a lawyer to ask this. [06:04]
pigeons the problem isnt that he shut down, the main problem is that he did it without returning accounting to asset holders or even all the funds, and that he dicked around with his shoe on head picture bullshit [06:04]
mircea_popescu pigeons the problem is that he lied. [06:04]
pigeons ? [06:05]
mircea_popescu this culture of lieing (about pretty much everything) is the fucking problem. [06:05]
Diablo-D3 I agree [06:05]
mircea_popescu he lied about talking to a lawyer. he lied about even having wtf any clue whatsoever what he's doing. [06:05]
pigeons the problem is that he didn't return asset lists or money [06:05]
Diablo-D3 no, the problem is he lied [06:05]
mircea_popescu it is just a string of lies all the way through. review his fucking videos at that ridiculous conference nobody went to. [06:05]
Diablo-D3 glbse was never legal [06:05]
copumpkin wait [06:05]
copumpkin he posted a pic of himself with a shoe on his head? [06:05]
smickles glbse was just an elaborate fundraiser for nefario's sexchange operation and therapist fees [06:05]
Diablo-D3 and he said it was to get asset issuers [06:05]
mircea_popescu pretty much all the guy does is lies and somehow this has become "the norm". [06:06]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: I never lie! [06:06]
copumpkin >_> [06:06]
pigeons lieing sucks, but he needs to give people their bitcoins back and the asset issuers information about their assets [06:06]
mircea_popescu look at the wannabe entrepreneurs in the forum : THEY ALL LIE [06:06]
mircea_popescu copumpkin ya but you also never say much. [06:06]
copumpkin :( [06:06]
copumpkin you think I say meaningless shit [06:06]
mircea_popescu start a btc-corp, get back to me, then it'd be useful. [06:06]
copumpkin (I think I say meaningless shit) [06:06]
pigeons you lied about pirate's sister, liar! [06:06]
copumpkin lol [06:06]
mircea_popescu him or me ? [06:06]
copumpkin me [06:06]
copumpkin I'm famous for it [06:06]
mircea_popescu you fucked her too ?! [06:06]
copumpkin yeah [06:06]
mircea_popescu asshole [06:06]
noagendamarket genjix and nefario are working in tandem [06:07]
copumpkin someone brought it up recently again on the forum [06:07]
copumpkin as an example of maged abusing his power as a mod [06:07]
pigeons maged was gonna give him a scameer tag for saying he fucked pirate's sister [06:07]
mircea_popescu agagagaa [06:07]
Diablo-D3 was she hot? [06:07]
copumpkin that's why I quit the forum :P [06:07]
mircea_popescu and hashking for falsely claiming he's 15 ? [06:07]
noagendamarket lol [06:07]
pigeons he doesn't have a sister i think [06:07]
mircea_popescu sure he does [06:07]
Diablo-D3 so it was just pirate in drag? [06:07]
mircea_popescu sure de hoes* [06:07]
noagendamarket bahhaha [06:08]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: do you know house of gord? [06:08]
mircea_popescu nope ? [06:08]
copumpkin ah [06:08]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/adolescenta-si-clitoris.gif random pic of the day [06:08]
mircea_popescu with animation! [06:08]
smickles copumpkin: http://static.neatorama.com/images/2007-10/pumpkin-house-steve-miller.jpg [06:09]
smickles house of gord [06:09]
mircea_popescu hahah [06:09]
smickles *gourd [06:09]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: http://www.markydsade.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/gord1_500x333.jpg [06:09]
Chaang-Noi badbear brought up the sister thing when attacking maged [06:09]
* copumpkin smacks smickles [06:09]
Chaang-Noi it was lols globol mod on global mod action [06:09]
noagendamarket the fuck [06:09]
copumpkin http://alterpic.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/invertedtruck-143.jpg [06:09]
Chaang-Noi now maged is upset at theymos for not talking about or warning maged i was banned, not sure why [06:10]
mircea_popescu o i c. femsploitation! [06:10]
thestringpuller that was the most random picture ever [06:10]
smickles copumpkin: yeah, i know, this ( http://waynesword.palomar.edu/images/pgourd3b.jpg ) is really the house of gourd [06:10]
copumpkin HE IS GORD [06:10]
thestringpuller so she's fingering herself [06:10]
thestringpuller then sniffing it? [06:10]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller something like that [06:10]
* copumpkin smacks smickles again [06:10]
mircea_popescu maybe was just checking the temperature who knows [06:10]
thestringpuller i wish I had girls like that in my classes [06:10]
mircea_popescu you do. [06:10]
mircea_popescu "that" is how girls are. [06:11]
copumpkin http://media.gordstore.com/media/items/0830/MG-100-347a_t.jpg http://media.gordstore.com/media/items/0510/MY-01-054_t.jpg [06:11]
smickles lol, what is this http://www.houseofgord.com/nav/pornopolice.png [06:11]
copumpkin he's pretty famous [06:11]
copumpkin SupaDupa: no [06:11]
copumpkin lol [06:11]
mircea_popescu that's ciuciu's new venture [06:12]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: the womanchariot? [06:12]
pigeons i challenge you to SupaDupa [06:12]
mircea_popescu no, pornopolice [06:12]
copumpkin oh [06:12]
copumpkin I bet ciuciu secretly rides chariots of women [06:12]
copumpkin perhaps he even has binders of them [06:12]
pigeons nice [06:12]
mircea_popescu i bet he secretly rides chariots of mcdo garbage [06:12]
copumpkin EskimoBob also likes chariots of women [06:13]
copumpkin or gord's weird vehicle attachments [06:13]
pigeons i used to date a hood ornament [06:14]
smickles ;;ticker [06:14]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.56112, Best ask: 11.60000, Bid-ask spread: 0.03888, Last trade: 11.60001, 24 hour volume: 21461.38961651, 24 hour low: 11.55000, 24 hour high: 11.79000, 24 hour vwap: 11.66320 [06:14]
smickles ;;bc,24hprc [06:14]
gribble 11.62 [06:14]
mircea_popescu unrelatedly : is anything funnier than the fact that uk's chief justice lord is an honorable judge by the name judge ? [06:14]
copumpkin pigeons: oh nice [06:14]
copumpkin is that like major major? [06:14]
copumpkin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_Major_Major_Major [06:14]
mircea_popescu ya but that's fictional [06:15]
mircea_popescu also, this guy is actually igor judge baron judge lord chief justice & queen's counsel [06:16]
smickles buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo [06:16]
smickles . [06:16]
pigeons biggie smalls biggie smalls biggie smalls [06:17]
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smickles the space between dick and and, and and and harry is too small [06:17]
copumpkin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwrotPF3Ak0 [06:19]
Chaang-Noi igor? [06:20]
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mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67185.msg1210059#msg1210059 kinda interesting graphs actually [06:20]
smickles that looks like a guy having fun [06:20]
mircea_popescu via sgornick [06:20]
smickles mircea_popescu: these are better http://bitcoinx.com/charts/ [06:22]
Azelphur SupaDupa: I challenge you to act like an adult for 24 hours [06:22]
smickles and they have the same sort of info [06:22]
Azelphur :) [06:22]
Azelphur challenge failed [06:22]
mircea_popescu o hyes [06:22]
mircea_popescu sorta like a tl;dr mpoe-pr summary service for the public ?! [06:23]
Azelphur Anyone know how to find out your bitcoinmax balance? I pinged payb.tc but he isn't replying and his site is broke :< [06:23]
mircea_popescu A North Korean army minister was reportedly executed with a mortar round for allegedly drinking and carousing during the official mourning period following leader Kim Jong-il's death. [06:23]
Azelphur YOU WILL MOURN, or else. [06:24]
Azelphur Chaang-Noi: maybe you can shed some light on ^ :P [06:25]
* Azelphur just wants to know how much he lost D: [06:25]
Chaang-Noi i dont know anything about n korea [06:25]
Azelphur Chaang-Noi: above that :P [06:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3400 @ 0.00043539 = 1.4803 BTC [+] [06:26]
mircea_popescu You're welcome. [06:26]
mircea_popescu Thanks for staying away from my services. [06:26]
mircea_popescu I'm really trying hard to make this project completely different from all the other shit holes, like i.e. GLBSE used to be. [06:26]
Chaang-Noi about payb.tc or supadupa? [06:26]
mircea_popescu apparently the girl left some scars in the adolescent imagination. [06:26]
Azelphur Chaang-Noi: payb.tc [06:26]
Chaang-Noi you think glbse got better MP? [06:26]
Chaang-Noi i know nothing about payb.tc other than he is not wanting to work with the sec or the kill pirate mob [06:27]
smickles executed via mortar? [06:27]
Chaang-Noi i think if you had payb.tc you now haz 0 btc [06:27]
Chaang-Noi just like all the other people who gave coin to pirate [06:27]
Azelphur indeed [06:27]
Chaang-Noi supadupa perma banned! [06:27]
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Azelphur was just curious how much I lost, but he isn't responding to forum pm's and his sites login is broke [06:28]
Azelphur :< [06:28]
mircea_popescu great lol [06:28]
Chaang-Noi i dont think payb.tc will be back [06:28]
Chaang-Noi you have his real life docs right? [06:28]
Chaang-Noi just call him up [06:28]
Azelphur I don't D: [06:29]
pigeons bah, who gives bitcoins to people they actually know? [06:29]
Azelphur guess I will have to piece it together from my bitcoin wallet history [06:29]
smickles /g 3 [06:30]
Azelphur SupaDupa: Suggestion, if you want to repay your loans, why don't you just repay them in USD? I'm sure people would be willing to accept that, and you have it [06:30]
Ssateneth ^ [06:30]
Chaang-Noi lol i dont use paypal [06:31]
Ssateneth of COURSE people will accept CASH [06:31]
Ssateneth If someone doesn't accept cash, they are an IDIOT [06:31]
Ssateneth I accept cash. I just don't send goods until I have cash in hand. [06:31]
pigeons paypal isn't cash, maybe not everyone supa borrowed from even uses usd, the deal was for btc, maybe they want btc [06:31]
Ssateneth He can buy bitcoins with cash though [06:32]
pigeons he doesn't have cash, he has paypal [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6346 @ 0.00043539 = 2.763 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41400 @ 0.00043546 = 18.028 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56400 @ 0.00043748 = 24.6739 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56241 @ 0.00043789 = 24.6274 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12626 @ 0.00043858 = 5.5375 BTC [+] [06:33]
Ssateneth Or better yet, he can pay a bitcoin seller with cash and the bitcoin seller sends bitcoins to the person that supa owes btc/money to [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53038 @ 0.00043867 = 23.2662 BTC [+] [06:33]
mircea_popescu so he can't change pp to btc ?! [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15700 @ 0.00043885 = 6.8899 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00043903 = 10.0977 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43800 @ 0.00044 = 19.272 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30800 @ 0.00044037 = 13.5634 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9200 @ 0.00044043 = 4.052 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36400 @ 0.00044052 = 16.0349 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6780 @ 0.00044092 = 2.9894 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39900 @ 0.00044104 = 17.5975 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30500 @ 0.00044158 = 13.4682 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00044171 = 9.6734 BTC [+] [06:33]
mircea_popescu o hallo [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48489 @ 0.00044179 = 21.422 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00044191 = 4.9494 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11478 @ 0.0004424 = 5.0779 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26323 @ 0.00044242 = 11.6458 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54800 @ 0.00044246 = 24.2468 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17400 @ 0.00044248 = 7.6992 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15000 @ 0.00044251 = 6.6377 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00044258 = 11.1973 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31500 @ 0.00044275 = 13.9466 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4300 @ 0.00044277 = 1.9039 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53166 @ 0.00044286 = 23.5451 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23200 @ 0.00044291 = 10.2755 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41300 @ 0.00044286 = 18.2901 BTC [-] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53800 @ 0.00044332 = 23.8506 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1791 @ 0.00044379 = 0.7948 BTC [+] [06:33]
thestringpuller Time to sell! [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2162 @ 0.00044389 = 0.9597 BTC [+] [06:33]
Ssateneth whats s.mpoe [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21600 @ 0.00044487 = 9.6092 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32700 @ 0.00044497 = 14.5505 BTC [+] [06:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40460 @ 0.00044568 = 18.0322 BTC [+] [06:33]
thestringpuller YES [06:33]
thestringpuller today has been a good day [06:33]
mircea_popescu Ssateneth mpex + mpoe [06:33]
Ssateneth no idea what that is [06:34]
mircea_popescu mpex is the btc stock exchange [06:34]
mircea_popescu mpoe is the options bot. [06:34]
Ssateneth lolwat? [06:34]
mircea_popescu you new ? [06:34]
pigeons Ssateneth: see topic [06:34]
Ssateneth I only joined here to see supa spamming [06:35]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118700.0 lol this is funnay [06:35]
mircea_popescu o.o that's a first. you joined to see someone's spam ?! [06:35]
Chaang-Noi yeah lol [06:37]
pigeons shame the goatse stopped [06:37]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102010.msg1290358#msg1290358 ahahaha [06:37]
mircea_popescu why do people stereotype so! [06:37]
thestringpuller cause the girl is mean [06:38]
thestringpuller lol [06:39]
Chaang-Noi she saw i was banned and has changed her ways:) [06:39]
mircea_popescu good girls are always mean [06:39]
thestringpuller or awkward [06:40]
thestringpuller http://polimedia.us/trilema/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/adolescenta-si-clitoris.gif - best pic of the day still [06:41]
thestringpuller well gif [06:41]
mircea_popescu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGOHE1zqEmY << this is pretty good too [06:43]
thestringpuller HAHAHAH [06:46]
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thestringpuller did he ever get the toy car out? [06:47]
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mircea_popescu prolly [06:47]
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Chaang-Noi SupaDupa ill trade btc for ltc or ppcoin [07:19]
thestringpuller scamcoin [07:19]
thestringpuller lol [07:19]
Chaang-Noi its better than paypal [07:20]
Chaang-Noi just trying to help a guy out [07:20]
thestringpuller lol [07:23]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2800 @ 0.00043313 = 1.2128 BTC [-] [07:24]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48527 @ 0.00043343 = 21.0331 BTC [+] [07:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 55900 @ 0.00044 = 24.596 BTC [+] [07:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33800 @ 0.00044183 = 14.9339 BTC [+] [07:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.000445 = 0.445 BTC [+] [07:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2822 @ 0.00044551 = 1.2572 BTC [+] [07:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8840 @ 0.00044568 = 3.9398 BTC [+] [07:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9000 @ 0.00044583 = 4.0125 BTC [+] [07:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32900 @ 0.00044608 = 14.676 BTC [+] [07:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16400 @ 0.00044637 = 7.3205 BTC [+] [07:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18274 @ 0.00044695 = 8.1676 BTC [+] [07:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34400 @ 0.00044763 = 15.3985 BTC [+] [07:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22700 @ 0.00044784 = 10.166 BTC [+] [07:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28094 @ 0.00044854 = 12.6013 BTC [+] [07:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7343 @ 0.00044889 = 3.2962 BTC [+] [07:38]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12327 @ 0.00043718 = 5.3891 BTC [-] [08:29]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1319 @ 0.00044391 = 0.5855 BTC [+] [08:54]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1181 @ 0.00044859 = 0.5298 BTC [+] [08:55]
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* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [10:45]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://polimedia.us/mpex || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RPclBi || a biased message: http://smpake.com || http://bit4x.com [10:45]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets set by kakobrekla!~T42@89-212-41-49.static.t-2.net at Tue Oct 16 15:58:37 2012 [10:45]
mircea_popescu http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/120zdj/gpg_contracts_vs_traditional_contracts_law/c6reke8 someone should point out the WOT to this guy [10:46]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16873 @ 0.00043718 = 7.3765 BTC [-] [11:01]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11227 @ 0.00043657 = 4.9014 BTC [-] [11:01]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38600 @ 0.00044172 = 17.0504 BTC [+] [11:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2938 @ 0.00044753 = 1.3148 BTC [+] [11:26]
EskimoBob mircea_popescu: you can do it [11:27]
mircea_popescu do what ? [11:27]
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mircea_popescu o hey, gmaxwell "wants to reconsider my involvement with bitcoin." ?! best news of the fucking month. [11:32]
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* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [14:39]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://polimedia.us/mpex || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RPclBi || a biased message: http://smpake.com || http://bit4x.com [14:39]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12227 @ 0.00044339 = 5.4213 BTC [-] [14:51]
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thestringpuller Hmmm [15:31]
thestringpuller looks like its the right time to start doing puts @ 11 [15:32]
gigavps we'll probably see 7s again soon [15:32]
thestringpuller really? [15:33]
thestringpuller is the damage that deep? [15:33]
thestringpuller august/september were just bubbles? [15:33]
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gigavps i wouldn't think about it as damage [15:33]
gigavps the market just doesn't have enough ppl acting on the price to keep it from having big swings [15:34]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 600 @ 0.00044576 = 0.2675 BTC [+] [15:41]
thestringpuller I feel like i should be makings puts @ 11 [15:41]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: The article does not discuss "race". That's your own contribution. More generally, it's quite clear reading it that it follows a cultural rather than physical anthropology vein, and so your racial preoccupation is wholly misplaced. [15:45]
thestringpuller The article does not discuss inferiority, that is again your very own contribution. (It does discuss difference, obviously, but that's something else). [15:45]
thestringpuller He places the downfall of native american tribes on the fact that they were too "confused" to really understand ownership and thus got owned due to their backwardsness. The reason why most native tribes did not have free-hold land ownership treaties was because [15:45]
thestringpuller Makes no difference what follows that "because." Did you do your homework ? No you didn't because. F. Next time, do your homework. [15:45]
thestringpuller More generally, it is not okay to run around calling "retardedness" anything that doesn't jive with whatever little you groked of the ideological mishmash being presented as a viable alternative to reality by whatever second tier college you happen to be partying at. [15:45]
thestringpuller Did you right that haha? [15:46]
thestringpuller write* damn it's too early for me [15:48]
mircea_popescu hm ? [15:50]
mircea_popescu o hey, reddit. [15:50]
thestringpuller sorry for the wall of text [15:53]
mircea_popescu prolly should just paste links [15:53]
thestringpuller one intelligent response [15:53]
thestringpuller I should [15:53]
thestringpuller It's early [15:53]
thestringpuller been working on writing my on 3d pipeline for class in python [15:53]
thestringpuller (head to keyboard) so much math [15:53]
mircea_popescu scathing huh [15:54]
mircea_popescu i like it [15:54]
thestringpuller the response? haha [15:54]
thestringpuller the last sentence made me chuckle [15:55]
thestringpuller cause we just discussed the "university students" a few hours ago [15:55]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: question about options, when I purchase a put for this month as you said it's american style right? So basically I have until Oct 31st to exercise on the option's strike price? [15:58]
mircea_popescu yes [15:58]
mircea_popescu oct the 26th [15:58]
mircea_popescu all options expire on the last firday of their month [15:59]
thestringpuller oh [15:59]
thestringpuller tomorrow then [15:59]
thestringpuller damn son [15:59]
thestringpuller this be a gamble ;-0 [15:59]
mircea_popescu o ya, you can't even buy them anymore [15:59]
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mircea_popescu bot doesn't offer during last 24 hours [16:00]
thestringpuller oh heh [16:00]
thestringpuller well next week then [16:00]
thestringpuller hopefully it doesn't go below 11 right before new options are issued [16:00]
thestringpuller but thats what the N's are for right? [16:00]
thestringpuller T = this month N = next month? [16:00]
mircea_popescu you can buy Ns, they expire november [16:00]
thestringpuller yea [16:00]
thestringpuller and they are "active" as soon as last month is over [16:01]
thestringpuller ?* [16:01]
mircea_popescu no ? [16:03]
mircea_popescu what do you mean by "active" [16:03]
thestringpuller when are we allowed to exercise on the option's strike price? [16:04]
thestringpuller sorry for asking n00b questions [16:04]
mircea_popescu at any time up till their expiration [16:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 371 @ 0.00044081 = 0.1635 BTC [-] [16:07]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [16:19]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.13001, Best ask: 11.15000, Bid-ask spread: 0.01999, Last trade: 11.15000, 24 hour volume: 49643.68215816, 24 hour low: 11.02500, 24 hour high: 11.71000, 24 hour vwap: 11.40163 [16:19]
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thestringpuller it's plummeting [16:29]
thestringpuller Short Sell up in dis bitch no? [16:29]
thestringpuller You're going to be the BTC warren buffet one day. [16:30]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu [16:30]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P130T] 4 @ 0.14264076 = 0.5706 BTC [+] [16:30]
mircea_popescu lol ok [16:30]
thestringpuller not saying that to butter you up, but you and smickles have ridiculous insight into the btc economy [16:31]
thestringpuller it's a shame more people just don't listen to you [16:31]
mircea_popescu well, the advantage of this venue is the very btc [16:32]
mircea_popescu it doesn't tend to stick with the silly. [16:32]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 10 @ 0.053896 = 0.539 BTC [+] [16:32]
thestringpuller is that someone exercising options [16:33]
thestringpuller ?* [16:33]
mircea_popescu no ? [16:37]
thestringpuller just buying selling them? I thought it was too late to buy this month [16:38]
mircea_popescu bot doesn't sell during last 24 hours. [16:38]
thestringpuller so those are people trading options? [16:40]
mircea_popescu yea [16:40]
mircea_popescu exercises aren't reported in the feed [16:40]
thestringpuller when you exercise and option you pay btc = to the usd price for the btc? [16:40]
thestringpuller btc strike price* [16:40]
mircea_popescu hm ? [16:41]
thestringpuller could you go over a quick example like I'm 5 for exercising and option (particularly a put) [16:41]
thestringpuller (I'm sorry I'm a n00b) [16:41]
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mircea_popescu (strike - current) / current for puts [16:42]
mircea_popescu (current - strike) / current for calls [16:42]
mircea_popescu so taking O.BTCUSD.P110T : [16:43]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [16:43]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.06003, Best ask: 11.10670, Bid-ask spread: 0.04667, Last trade: 11.06003, 24 hour volume: 52165.66011815, 24 hour low: 11.00000, 24 hour high: 11.71000, 24 hour vwap: 11.37971 [16:43]
mircea_popescu well that's not itm [16:43]
thestringpuller that was deceivingly simple [16:43]
mircea_popescu if it were a call : [16:43]
mircea_popescu ( 11.37971 - 11) / 11.37971 [16:43]
thestringpuller So for calls when your purchase the option, the strike price has to be below the current price, and vice-versa for puts? (being issued from bot that is) [16:45]
thestringpuller you* not your [16:46]
mircea_popescu well that's what an in the money option is [16:50]
mircea_popescu think about it, it's little use to have the right to buy at 12 when the market price is 11 [16:50]
mircea_popescu or to sell at 10. [16:50]
thestringpuller i see, thanks for clarifying :) [16:51]
thestringpuller I changed my business VP [16:51]
thestringpuller cause you were right (as always) [16:51]
thestringpuller btc is not for consumers [16:52]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4429 @ 0.00043989 = 1.9483 BTC [-] [16:59]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9600 @ 0.00043989 = 4.2229 BTC [-] [17:25]
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kakobreklaaa 15:52.11 ( thestringpuller ) btc is not for consumers [17:29]
kakobreklaaa whats the exact reasoning behind it [17:30]
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mircea_popescu A 20-year-old Brazilian student has sold her virginity in an online auction to a Japanese man named Natsu for £483,000 ($772,000). [17:43]
mircea_popescu i'd list that... [17:43]
Diablo-D3 > japanese man [17:45]
Diablo-D3 you know [17:45]
Diablo-D3 I read this story [17:45]
Diablo-D3 like last week [17:45]
Diablo-D3 and the auction wasnt finished [17:45]
Diablo-D3 and I was like [17:45]
Diablo-D3 "sounds like something a japanese guy would bid for" [17:45]
mircea_popescu i dunno what the fuck you'd have to think [17:46]
Diablo-D3 not sure if Im racist or accurate. [17:46]
mircea_popescu you can spend 150k on a car, $500 on pills [17:46]
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mircea_popescu and get three chicks in both holes [17:46]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: dude [17:46]
mircea_popescu each night [17:46]
Diablo-D3 you have to go to HIGH SCHOOL [17:46]
Diablo-D3 allllll the virgin women you'd ever want [17:46]
mircea_popescu more like junior high, but anyway [17:46]
Diablo-D3 and a bunch you wouldnt want [17:46]
Diablo-D3 and probably a few teachers that'd do it for you [17:46]
mircea_popescu or you could go to like... hm. thailand, was it ? [17:47]
Diablo-D3 naw, ladyboys arent my thing [17:47]
mircea_popescu http://www.theblaze.com/stories/cnn-scrubs-article-about-female-voting-study-womens-voting-patterns-vary-based-on-their-hormones/ [17:47]
mircea_popescu ahaha [17:47]
mircea_popescu cnn had a fit of pms [17:47]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: why stop at two holes? [17:48]
mircea_popescu what, make some ? [17:48]
copumpkin oh, you clearly haven't seen the urethral sex videos [17:48]
copumpkin I am disappoint [17:48]
mircea_popescu im more of a sexual conservative like that [17:49]
thestringpuller I thought you were more pimpin than snoop dogg himself mircea_popescu [17:50]
mircea_popescu in a sexually conservative sort of way [17:50]
thestringpuller what do girls want? [17:50]
thestringpuller age old question [17:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16280 @ 0.00043989 = 7.1614 BTC [-] [17:51]
mircea_popescu diiiscipline [17:51]
thestringpuller o rly? [17:51]
thestringpuller i hate vector algebra [17:53]
thestringpuller but it is a necessary evil [17:53]
copumpkin nothing wrong with it [17:56]
thestringpuller if you have to do it by hand as if it's still 1812 then yea there is something wrong with hit [17:57]
mircea_popescu who has to do vector algebra by hand [17:57]
copumpkin depends if you're proving shit or calculating numbers :) [17:58]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [17:58]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.93000, Best ask: 10.93023, Bid-ask spread: 0.00023, Last trade: 10.93000, 24 hour volume: 61721.37923365, 24 hour low: 10.84731, 24 hour high: 11.71000, 24 hour vwap: 11.30128 [17:58]
thestringpuller time to buy options [17:58]
thestringpuller i'm doing 3d math [17:59]
thestringpuller rasterizing a 3d scene "by hand" [17:59]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110N] 4 @ 0.2426901 = 0.9708 BTC [+] [18:03]
thestringpuller lol [18:03]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8500 @ 0.00043989 = 3.7391 BTC [-] [18:28]
mircea_popescu http://talkweb.eu/openweb/1842 le lol [18:29]
mircea_popescu facebook figures itself a sort of gubernmint [18:29]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1696 @ 0.00043989 = 0.7461 BTC [-] [18:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31704 @ 0.00043985 = 13.945 BTC [-] [18:54]
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thestringpuller holy shit mircea_popescu [19:17]
thestringpuller that's frightening [19:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5596 @ 0.00043985 = 2.4614 BTC [-] [19:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00043753 = 2.0564 BTC [-] [19:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8055 @ 0.00043657 = 3.5166 BTC [-] [19:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35749 @ 0.00043655 = 15.6062 BTC [-] [19:19]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [19:22]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.04001, Best ask: 11.08999, Bid-ask spread: 0.04998, Last trade: 11.09000, 24 hour volume: 65134.03095826, 24 hour low: 10.84731, 24 hour high: 11.71000, 24 hour vwap: 11.26946 [19:22]
mircea_popescu hm ? [19:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6224 @ 0.00043655 = 2.7171 BTC [-] [19:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16100 @ 0.00043992 = 7.0827 BTC [+] [20:09]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5427 @ 0.00043655 = 2.3692 BTC [-] [20:34]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10373 @ 0.0004357 = 4.5195 BTC [-] [20:34]
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thestringpuller ;;ticker [20:58]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.05000, Best ask: 11.12740, Bid-ask spread: 0.07740, Last trade: 11.05000, 24 hour volume: 65695.61932853, 24 hour low: 10.84731, 24 hour high: 11.71000, 24 hour vwap: 11.25478 [20:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10129 @ 0.00043992 = 4.4559 BTC [+] [21:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2359 @ 0.00044033 = 1.0387 BTC [+] [21:00]
smickles ;;ticker [21:04]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 11.05000, Best ask: 11.05001, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 11.05000, 24 hour volume: 65454.63059593, 24 hour low: 10.84731, 24 hour high: 11.71000, 24 hour vwap: 11.25302 [21:04]
smickles ;;bc,24hprc [21:04]
gribble 11.22 [21:04]
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assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P190T] 3 @ 0.69548485 = 2.0865 BTC [+] [21:11]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P110T] 3 @ 0.05192401 = 0.1558 BTC [-] [21:13]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28427 @ 0.0004357 = 12.3856 BTC [-] [21:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29073 @ 0.00043534 = 12.6566 BTC [-] [21:38]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2868 @ 0.00043534 = 1.2486 BTC [-] [22:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27100 @ 0.00043529 = 11.7964 BTC [-] [22:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26232 @ 0.00043495 = 11.4096 BTC [-] [22:05]
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jurov thestringpuller, anything new? [22:14]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42403 @ 0.00043623 = 18.4975 BTC [+] [22:30]
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EskimoBob damn btc is stuck below 12 [22:54]
knotwork WTF is going on, ASIC makers still dumping huge numbers of coins to get USD to build their ASICs? [22:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00043496 = 1.7398 BTC [-] [22:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3800 @ 0.00043495 = 1.6528 BTC [-] [22:56]
pigeons that is the cnbc answer [22:56]
B0g4r7 I thought the asic makers used bitpay or something to dump as soon as the purchase is made. [22:56]
pigeons ok change to bitpay still dumping ... [22:57]
assbot [MPEX] [O.BTCUSD.P060N] 10 @ 0.052 = 0.52 BTC [+] [23:00]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [23:00]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 10.66100, Best ask: 10.68991, Bid-ask spread: 0.02891, Last trade: 10.66100, 24 hour volume: 72170.32957297, 24 hour low: 10.66100, 24 hour high: 11.71000, 24 hour vwap: 11.18757 [23:00]
mircea_popescu ooo [23:00]
mircea_popescu i think i mostly had calls too. [23:00]
mircea_popescu funny how that works out [23:00]
dub facebook has jumped the shark [23:00]
dub I've been considering deleting my profile but I think I'll just let it rot to avoid the drama [23:01]
vampireb_ i use fb for traking birthday of close friends [23:03]
vampireb_ i dont have anyone else really [23:03]
vampireb_ neither it has my real name on file [23:04]
dub lately I noticed it actually limits my social interaction [23:06]
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dub also get sick of untagging myself from shit [23:08]
mircea_popescu i really think this real name mystique is quite funny [23:12]
dub facebook was actually the first time my real name met the internet [23:19]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 300 @ 0.00337 = 1.011 BTC [+] [23:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 3000 @ 0.003375 = 10.125 BTC [+] [23:20]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 200 @ 0.0034 = 0.68 BTC [+] [23:20]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40346 @ 0.00043602 = 17.5917 BTC [+] [23:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2297 @ 0.00043623 = 1.002 BTC [+] [23:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1600 @ 0.00043832 = 0.7013 BTC [+] [23:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17141 @ 0.00044033 = 7.5477 BTC [+] [23:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17600 @ 0.00044576 = 7.8454 BTC [+] [23:21]
john_smith real names are awesome [23:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00044733 = 2.5498 BTC [+] [23:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32243 @ 0.00044889 = 14.4736 BTC [+] [23:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 50903 @ 0.00045028 = 22.9206 BTC [+] [23:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.00045144 = 11.3763 BTC [+] [23:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2200 @ 0.00045148 = 0.9933 BTC [+] [23:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29770 @ 0.00045172 = 13.4477 BTC [+] [23:21]
vampireb_ i was removing my name from the internet, so far doing good :-) [23:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.BVPS] 1200 @ 0.0032491 = 3.8989 BTC [-] [23:21]
mircea_popescu lol john_smith [23:21]
john_smith mircea_popescu: what's the stereotypical most common Romanian name? [23:22]
vampireb_ and my name is quiet common :-) [23:23]
mircea_popescu ion popescu [23:23]
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thestringpuller why is premium so high on future puts? [23:23]
copumpkin mircea_popescu: really? [23:23]
mircea_popescu something like that. [23:23]
mircea_popescu ion, gheorghe, in general saint's names are quite frequent [23:23]
mircea_popescu ionescu is actually quite common last name too [23:24]
mircea_popescu and your john smith reminds me of this one time we were awaiting the visit of one jon smith, expert in whatever from headquarters! [23:24]
mircea_popescu guy turned out to be a stunning blonde. [23:24]
mircea_popescu by the name of JON smith [23:25]
vampireb_ Joana! [23:25]
vampireb_ Joan [23:25]
copumpkin lol [23:25]
mircea_popescu it actually was jon [23:26]
mircea_popescu not to mention the more-famous-than-me mircea monroe [23:28]
dub not robert? [23:28]
mircea_popescu hm ? [23:28]
dub I tracked some of your countrymen to a cnc channel on undernet called #robert once [23:29]
mircea_popescu robert kinda is a fag's name imo [23:29]
Doffx No, Rex is a fag name. [23:31]
dub res is ultra faggy [23:31]
Doffx mircea has fag potential. [23:31]
Doffx :P [23:31]
dub rex*, though robert is faggy too, I had a friend called robert [23:31]
Doffx Robert I see a Bob, I dont know any fag Bob's. [23:31]
mircea_popescu rex is a dog's name [23:31]
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mircea_popescu all dogs are fags. [23:32]
dub he made me angry, then went to hospital [23:32]
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mircea_popescu mircea kinda has fag potential... which is why it shouldn't be entrusted in the wrong hands [23:33]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4376 @ 0.00045172 = 1.9767 BTC [+] [23:47]
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