Forum logs for 25 Nov 2012

Saturday, 23 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
jurov false alarm :/ [00:11]
mircea_popescu lol why sad ? [00:11]
jurov i enjoy finding such bugs [00:15]
mircea_popescu :p [00:16]
jurov but it was "only" a 40sec delay [00:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9840 @ 0.000525 = 5.166 BTC [+] [00:17]
jurov with all these discussions maybe we'll see MPOE-PR starting penis drawing contest on btctalk [00:21]
mircea_popescu lol, are you good at it ? [00:22]
jurov don't know, never tried [00:22]
gigavps evening [00:23]
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jurov evening [00:24]
mircea_popescu so no tag for you [00:24]
mircea_popescu come back, 1 year! [00:24]
gigavps seems not today [00:24]
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mircea_popescu huh, was SR offline for two weeks ?! [00:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11590 @ 0.000525 = 6.0848 BTC [+] [00:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052522 = 1.2316 BTC [+] [00:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00052543 = 0.5254 BTC [+] [00:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13098 @ 0.00052544 = 6.8822 BTC [+] [00:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23100 @ 0.00052592 = 12.1488 BTC [+] [00:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8657 @ 0.00052623 = 4.5556 BTC [+] [00:41]
mircea_popescu and why has the press settled on "semi-anonymous" to describe bitcoin [00:43]
smickles mircea_popescu: yeah, kinda makes you wonder why anyone thinks it's a significant part of the economy [00:43]
mircea_popescu there's no such thing. btc is pseudonymous. [00:43]
smickles b/c pseudo is too big of a prefix [00:43]
smickles we're talkin' 'bout 'merica [00:44]
mircea_popescu ima gonna start talking of pseudo tractor trailers. [00:45]
gigavps mircea_popescu bitcoin oz seems to have an affinity for you [00:45]
jurov pseudoconductors [00:45]
gigavps and i did not know he was a glbse shareholder [00:46]
mircea_popescu gigavps he changed his name. it's dave hollis. [00:46]
gigavps hmmm, i feel like he's trying to stir the pot [00:46]
gigavps i guess this is to be expected [00:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052564 = 1.2326 BTC [-] [00:47]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6372 @ 0.000525 = 3.3453 BTC [-] [00:47]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42628 @ 0.000525 = 22.3797 BTC [-] [00:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005258 = 1.233 BTC [+] [00:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19205 @ 0.00052623 = 10.1062 BTC [+] [00:59]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5638 @ 0.00052623 = 2.9669 BTC [+] [01:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35112 @ 0.00052637 = 18.4819 BTC [+] [01:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1600 @ 0.00332909 = 5.3265 BTC [+] [01:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3559 @ 0.00052637 = 1.8734 BTC [+] [01:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25941 @ 0.00052637 = 13.6546 BTC [+] [01:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052546 = 1.2322 BTC [-] [01:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.000525 = 9.765 BTC [-] [01:39]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7655 @ 0.00052501 = 4.019 BTC [+] [01:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12810 @ 0.00052637 = 6.7428 BTC [+] [01:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29600 @ 0.000525 = 15.54 BTC [-] [01:54]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052582 = 1.233 BTC [+] [02:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4649 @ 0.00052637 = 2.4471 BTC [+] [02:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16228 @ 0.00052723 = 8.5559 BTC [+] [02:07]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39750 @ 0.00052723 = 20.9574 BTC [+] [02:14]
Namjies Ukto [02:15]
Namjies There's no token/code/anything [02:15]
Namjies just email+btc address+# shares [02:15]
Namjies Did you have any BTC-MINING shares? [02:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052554 = 1.2324 BTC [-] [02:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7155 @ 0.000525 = 3.7564 BTC [-] [02:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21050 @ 0.000525 = 11.0513 BTC [-] [02:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35400 @ 0.0005237 = 18.539 BTC [-] [02:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26900 @ 0.00052275 = 14.062 BTC [-] [02:22]
Namjies smickles... [02:27]
Namjies you had many subaccount on GLBSE right? ... [02:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 900 @ 0.00339816 = 3.0583 BTC [+] [02:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 600 @ 0.00332909 = 1.9975 BTC [-] [02:28]
Namjies mircea_popescu, I think I'm noticing a trend. [02:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052661 = 1.2349 BTC [+] [02:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22760 @ 0.00052723 = 11.9998 BTC [+] [02:31]
mircea_popescu which is ? [02:31]
Namjies It seems some who were not on the lists are issuers like me and smickles or Diablo-D3 (with subaccounts). [02:32]
Namjies We received 1 payment for the balance of each payment account... so multiple payments... [02:32]
Diablo-D3 yeah [02:32]
Diablo-D3 but Ive gotten paid out on all three accounts [02:32]
Namjies When Nefario generated the lists, he probably excluded those who received more than one payment. [02:32]
Diablo-D3 er all four [02:33]
Diablo-D3 diablo, diablo:dmc, diablo:bflsuccess, diablo:bflfail [02:33]
Namjies Which didn't include pretty much anyone with subaccounts, not just people who received double payments. [02:33]
Namjies That could explain the screw up. The only asset list I know I'm included on is my own lists. [02:34]
Namjies Technically, I can't make the difference between shares owned in each account. They're aggregated as one in my list. [02:35]
mircea_popescu oh [02:35]
Diablo-D3 problem is, I was never double paid [02:35]
mircea_popescu so he... fucked up the unfucking up of the multipay fuckup ? [02:35]
Diablo-D3 and even if I was, wouldnt nefario have emailed me? [02:35]
Namjies No, but you received multiple payments. [02:35]
Diablo-D3 yeah, one for each [02:36]
Diablo-D3 and no duplicates [02:36]
Namjies If his script checked only for that, even if they were not duplicates, the script might have excluded you from lists. [02:36]
Namjies I doubt he automatically generated them. [02:36]
Namjies Is what I mean. [02:36]
Diablo-D3 he should have [02:36]
Diablo-D3 its like easy shmeezy perl [02:37]
Diablo-D3 this is like perl one liner material [02:37]
Namjies I meant I doubt he manually generated them* [02:37]
Diablo-D3 oh [02:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052336 = 1.2273 BTC [-] [02:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8013 @ 0.00052275 = 4.1888 BTC [-] [02:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10897 @ 0.00052034 = 5.6701 BTC [-] [02:37]
Diablo-D3 so basically he flagged everyone who he paid per sub account? [02:37]
Diablo-D3 what a fucker [02:37]
mircea_popescu ok. proper S.MPOE contract up... http://polimedia.us/bitcoin/mpex.php?mpsic=S.MPOE [02:37]
Namjies I'm just assuming he was putting an "OK" check on anyone who sent back a double-payment. [02:38]
mircea_popescu please everyone error hunt [02:38]
Diablo-D3 Namjies: but he never contacted me [02:38]
mircea_popescu smickles jurov Namjies ^ [02:38]
Diablo-D3 he knows my email [02:38]
Namjies Then used a script who excluded anyone receiving more than 1 payment and who was not OK'ed [02:38]
Diablo-D3 its public [02:38]
Diablo-D3 infact both my emails are public, he knows Im a forum mod, he knows Im on irc, he knows Im on github [02:38]
Diablo-D3 he also knows I have a blog [02:38]
Namjies He might not even have realized asset issuers were not included in the lists. [02:39]
Namjies If he's not manually making them. [02:39]
Diablo-D3 _wtf_ [02:39]
Diablo-D3 no wonder glbse failed [02:39]
Diablo-D3 hes a shitty coder [02:39]
Diablo-D3 yup, I recieved 4 payments from my glbse address [02:40]
Namjies Although no... Usagi was included on my list. [02:40]
Namjies And he had many assets. [02:40]
Namjies I forgot about that. [02:40]
Diablo-D3 7 and 27 (success and fail), 0.04 and 0.01 (dmc and myself) [02:40]
Diablo-D3 yeah but I dont know how he ran his assets [02:40]
Diablo-D3 he could have had a glbse account per [02:40]
Diablo-D3 oh wait nm [02:40]
Diablo-D3 asset creation causes sub accounts no matter what [02:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12274 @ 0.00052034 = 6.3867 BTC [-] [02:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9292 @ 0.0005189 = 4.8216 BTC [-] [02:41]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 i didn;'t know you had a blog [02:42]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: yeah, its been linked on slashdot's front page three times among other honors [02:43]
Diablo-D3 I should write for it more but meh [02:43]
mircea_popescu so link ? [02:43]
pigeons shit nefario could have manually paid all the customers by now quicker than this and with less errors [02:44]
Diablo-D3 http://adterrasperaspera.com/ [02:44]
mircea_popescu pigeons even if he had no arms [02:44]
mircea_popescu and used like, his cock [02:44]
mircea_popescu Diablo-D3 ill pay you a bitcoin if you write an article about either mpex or trilema. [02:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052661 = 1.2349 BTC [+] [02:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7682 @ 0.00052723 = 4.0502 BTC [+] [02:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00052735 = 7.5938 BTC [+] [02:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10975 @ 0.00052741 = 5.7883 BTC [+] [02:45]
smickles 00:27 < Namjies> you had many subaccount on GLBSE right? ... <<< yes [02:46]
Diablo-D3 mircea_popescu: heh, I dont even write about dmc on my blog [02:46]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11914 @ 0.00052741 = 6.2836 BTC [+] [02:48]
smickles mircea_popescu: that contract should make s.mpoe more easily understood [02:51]
mircea_popescu i would hope so [02:51]
Diablo-D3 hrm smickles [02:51]
mircea_popescu will leave it like this for a little then sign it [02:51]
Diablo-D3 were you here when I was talking about DMC 2.0? [02:51]
mircea_popescu would really appreciate open source typo finding etc. [02:51]
smickles I don't think so Diablo-D3 [02:51]
Diablo-D3 smickles: okay so [02:51]
Diablo-D3 shares like I had with DMC were a complete failure [02:51]
Diablo-D3 so I dont want to go that route again [02:51]
Diablo-D3 what I want to do is OID coupon non-callable corporate bonds [02:52]
Diablo-D3 issue them serial numbered and pgp signed using a single use key then burn/bury the key [02:52]
Diablo-D3 smickles: so what do you think? [02:55]
smickles heh, well, it sounds workable, but i'm an accountant, you might want to ask a lawyer/underwriter for advice [02:59]
Diablo-D3 bitcoin doesnt have any [03:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052536 = 1.232 BTC [-] [03:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28700 @ 0.00052487 = 15.0638 BTC [-] [03:05]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7200 @ 0.00052376 = 3.7711 BTC [-] [03:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12105 @ 0.0005189 = 6.2813 BTC [-] [03:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052677 = 1.2353 BTC [+] [03:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11027 @ 0.00052741 = 5.8158 BTC [+] [03:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24269 @ 0.00052743 = 12.8002 BTC [+] [03:08]
smickles i dunno, I think there are a few out ther [03:10]
smickles but if you have a question about receivables, payables, payroll, and a myriad of other related things, I might be a good one to ask [03:11]
smickles after the bonds are written, i know how to deal with them :) [03:12]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051954 = 1.2183 BTC [-] [03:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8251 @ 0.0005189 = 4.2814 BTC [-] [03:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7904 @ 0.00051362 = 4.0597 BTC [-] [03:15]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38000 @ 0.00051362 = 19.5176 BTC [-] [03:21]
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Namjies I suppose you're not qualified at all to fill Canadian tax reports eh. [03:29]
Namjies I'll have to find myself an accountant. [03:30]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051824 = 1.2153 BTC [+] [03:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8455 @ 0.00051867 = 4.3854 BTC [+] [03:37]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27216 @ 0.00051867 = 14.1161 BTC [+] [03:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20243 @ 0.00052035 = 10.5334 BTC [+] [03:40]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13350 @ 0.00051702 = 6.9022 BTC [-] [03:44]
smickles http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3ABitcoin&diff=524732413&oldid=524729775 [03:46]
smickles srsly [03:46]
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mircea_popescu summary ? [03:50]
smickles mircea_popescu: dude keeps going on about how peeps use the wrong definition of a ponzi, i do a line by line contrast of the sec's definition of a ponzi and Bitcoin [03:51]
mircea_popescu there is a supreme court definition [03:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25890 @ 0.00051702 = 13.3856 BTC [-] [03:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22810 @ 0.00052035 = 11.8692 BTC [+] [03:51]
smickles the guy kept going on about the SEC's definition tho [03:52]
smickles if he want's to move the goalposts again, let him [03:52]
mircea_popescu lol [03:52]
mircea_popescu is this that zeroshadow or w/e guy ? [03:52]
smickles SudoGhost [03:52]
mircea_popescu ya [03:53]
mircea_popescu http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=196 [03:54]
mircea_popescu this is kinda funny. [03:54]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051416 = 1.2057 BTC [-] [03:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3196 @ 0.00051362 = 1.6415 BTC [-] [03:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00051343 = 10.0119 BTC [-] [03:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11528 @ 0.00051085 = 5.8891 BTC [-] [03:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9431 @ 0.00050865 = 4.7971 BTC [-] [03:57]
smickles lol [03:57]
smickles Boniek stated that he was in control of the court and dismissed the case against himself."" [03:58]
smickles The policeman pointed to Boniek's waistband, which was covered with sweater and coat. The policeman suggested that Boniek was concealing a handgun, <<< what a fucking bitch [04:00]
gigavps just when you though hacking wasn't for girls -> http://scanlime.org/2012/11/hacking-my-vagina/ [04:00]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00051491 = 1.2075 BTC [+] [04:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15050 @ 0.00051536 = 7.7562 BTC [+] [04:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5347 @ 0.00052035 = 2.7823 BTC [+] [04:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3950 @ 0.00052341 = 2.0675 BTC [+] [04:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12059 @ 0.00052393 = 6.3181 BTC [+] [04:04]
smickles mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/13qosb/comparison_of_bitcoin_and_the_sec_definition_of_a/c769y0i [04:13]
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mircea_popescu curious how tjhat'll go. [04:17]
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smickles well, there is already an appeal that anyone else stand on the side of SudoGhost [04:18]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39300 @ 0.00052149 = 20.4946 BTC [-] [04:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00051603 = 10.0626 BTC [-] [04:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8200 @ 0.00050865 = 4.1709 BTC [-] [04:21]
smickles well, when your wife asks you to give her the ruler... [04:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00050907 = 1.1938 BTC [+] [04:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26919 @ 0.00050865 = 13.6923 BTC [-] [04:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24450 @ 0.00050705 = 12.3974 BTC [-] [04:29]
mircea_popescu on the bottom ? [04:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.00050638 = 10.7859 BTC [-] [04:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19200 @ 0.00050621 = 9.7192 BTC [-] [04:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14680 @ 0.00050621 = 7.4312 BTC [-] [04:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22920 @ 0.00050617 = 11.6014 BTC [-] [04:51]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 1250 @ 0.00332909 = 4.1614 BTC [-] [04:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15583 @ 0.00050617 = 7.8876 BTC [-] [05:06]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4547 @ 0.00050617 = 2.3016 BTC [-] [05:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22306 @ 0.0005059 = 11.2846 BTC [-] [05:08]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 544 @ 0.0005059 = 0.2752 BTC [-] [05:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30649 @ 0.00050556 = 15.4949 BTC [-] [05:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19807 @ 0.00050469 = 9.9964 BTC [-] [05:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29895 @ 0.00050469 = 15.0877 BTC [-] [05:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16855 @ 0.00050463 = 8.5055 BTC [-] [05:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1986 @ 0.00050705 = 1.007 BTC [+] [05:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24864 @ 0.00051272 = 12.7483 BTC [+] [05:21]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29545 @ 0.00050463 = 14.9093 BTC [-] [05:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24755 @ 0.0005032 = 12.4567 BTC [-] [05:26]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00050915 = 1.194 BTC [+] [05:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9605 @ 0.00050983 = 4.8969 BTC [+] [05:35]
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smickles 12.5 on gox [05:37]
smickles nifty [05:37]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6845 @ 0.00050983 = 3.4898 BTC [+] [05:38]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4936 @ 0.00051272 = 2.5308 BTC [+] [05:38]
smickles ;;calc [ticker --last] * 0.00051272 * 1000000000 [05:38]
gribble 6417664.968 [05:38]
mircea_popescu smickles what did icbit close at ? [05:40]
smickles 11.89585 [05:40]
mircea_popescu i see [05:40]
smickles it's been about the same for 3 days now [05:41]
mircea_popescu ridoinculous. [05:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00052392 = 0.5239 BTC [+] [05:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26503 @ 0.00052393 = 13.8857 BTC [+] [05:42]
mircea_popescu ;;tslb [05:42]
gribble Time since last block: 32 minutes and 27 seconds [05:42]
smickles i could buy it all the way to 12.5 right now, but this volatility on gox is getting out of hand, i'm not sure if a sharp dip is around the corner or not [05:42]
mircea_popescu aren't these things supposed to be 6 minutes apart. [05:42]
smickles 10 [05:42]
smickles on average [05:42]
mircea_popescu right. even so... [05:42]
mircea_popescu re icbit : i wouldn't buy up to anything on full leverage. [05:42]
smickles it'd take about half my (personal) margin [05:43]
mircea_popescu that may be sustainable. [05:44]
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smickles i've got a bid at 11.8, that's where my spooky sense starts tingling [05:44]
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jcpham so smickles [05:45]
smickles so jcpham [05:45]
jcpham those 160btc in s2cm shares are gone now [05:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17123 @ 0.00051696 = 8.8519 BTC [-] [05:45]
jcpham because nefario is a cunt [05:46]
jcpham correct? [05:46]
smickles i dunno, was there news that he's not giving us info? [05:46]
jcpham have i properly summarized the situation? [05:46]
smickles he's given back info to some people [05:46]
mircea_popescu 4 a day. on average. [05:46]
mircea_popescu if 4 is 3 and day is week. [05:46]
jcpham ic [05:47]
smickles if we get infos, we're liquidating and paying the shareholders [05:47]
jcpham i'm going to have to say all bitcoin site admins are cunts [05:47]
jcpham going forwards [05:47]
jcpham history has meaning and it should never be ignored [05:47]
smickles did you file an account claim with glbse? [05:47]
jcpham i logged in and submitted said details [05:47]
mircea_popescu jcpham i go backwards... [05:47]
jcpham under duress if subpoened [05:48]
smickles well, you've done all that i know you can [05:48]
jcpham mircea_popescu you can be in cunt club if you want [05:48]
jcpham it's invite only [05:48]
mircea_popescu unfair generalisation. i was trading when pirate was just a tyke. [05:48]
mircea_popescu i was in business when bitcoinica was getting started [05:48]
mircea_popescu i was here throughout. you can't say ALL. [05:48]
mircea_popescu so nyah. [05:49]
jcpham show me the screenshots [05:49]
smickles jcpham: render me an opinion of that widget on the right under the search bar http://blog.smickles.com/ [05:49]
jcpham no romanian blog bullshit either [05:49]
mircea_popescu what'd you like to see ? [05:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00050382 = 1.1815 BTC [-] [05:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1295 @ 0.0005032 = 0.6516 BTC [-] [05:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14720 @ 0.00050294 = 7.4033 BTC [-] [05:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9245 @ 0.00050198 = 4.6408 BTC [-] [05:49]
jcpham mircea_popescu jon matonis was sharing your blog the other day [05:49]
smickles jcpham: re the bitcoinica mention, i can vouch that mpoe was there before bitcoinica [05:49]
jcpham you'll have to clean up your act [05:50]
smickles it was an email interface, but it worked [05:50]
mircea_popescu 6395 kreal 58 mircea_popescu 2011-07-26 05:10:22 1 sold 60 bitcoins, payment first. no problems. [05:50]
mircea_popescu there. [05:50]
mircea_popescu jcpham oh ? [05:50]
jcpham -otc is a joke and can't be trusted [05:50]
mircea_popescu so what, kreal lied about me buying 60 btc last july ? [05:51]
jcpham WHAT!?! [05:51]
jcpham OMG WHAT did he say [05:51]
jcpham yep. [05:51]
mircea_popescu uhm [05:51]
smickles jcpham: can i have some of what you're drinking? [05:51]
jcpham no! [05:51]
mircea_popescu lol [05:51]
smickles ;P [05:51]
mircea_popescu he's drinking 17 yo virgin girl tears from hard spanking [05:51]
mircea_popescu mixed with goose breastmilk [05:52]
jcpham makes me invisible [05:52]
smickles :o [05:52]
mircea_popescu ;;tslb [05:52]
gribble Time since last block: 2 minutes and 1 second [05:52]
jcpham i was just joking but not really [05:52]
jcpham about all of that [05:53]
jcpham whatever i said [05:53]
mircea_popescu lol [05:55]
mircea_popescu so what about my act ? [05:55]
jcpham thankfully we haven't crossed swords yet [05:55]
mircea_popescu who ? you and matonis ? [05:55]
smickles only 4 more to go to hit the top of /r/bitcoin [05:56]
mircea_popescu btw smickles your blog looks all fucked up in opera [05:56]
jcpham i'm sorry i'm confused [05:56]
mircea_popescu everything on the left column is scrunched in bottom [05:56]
smickles oh jeez [05:57]
* smickles downloads opera [05:57]
jcpham https://plus.google.com/100109831949151899859/posts/RdSRMn5B9gK [05:58]
jcpham was my reference [05:58]
mircea_popescu smickles user browsershots.org [05:58]
jcpham i like the internet because i can cite things [05:58]
mircea_popescu I can't say I particularly liked this article. The tone was very hurtful to those people. I imagine any "Imbecilitarians" reading it would be offended. [05:58]
mircea_popescu ahahaha [05:58]
jcpham notice how kind i am [05:58]
mircea_popescu i thought you were a real friend [05:59]
jcpham i am [05:59]
jcpham but the internet isn't real [05:59]
mircea_popescu dericc aztrott ?! [05:59]
jcpham god put the internet here for my amusement [05:59]
mircea_popescu that name alone... i imagine it must have been very hurtful in jr high [05:59]
jcpham cold [05:59]
mircea_popescu you know when you get drunk you sound like reeses sober. [05:59]
jcpham i'm not druuuuuuunk [06:00]
mircea_popescu a ok. [06:00]
jcpham join the g+ and friend me up [06:00]
mircea_popescu i don't have a g [06:00]
jcpham give your datas to google [06:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00050779 = 1.1908 BTC [+] [06:00]
mircea_popescu IT's A MYTH [06:00]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11914 @ 0.00050846 = 6.0578 BTC [+] [06:00]
mircea_popescu i don't even have a gmail acct. [06:01]
jcpham google needs all your data to feed [06:01]
jcpham without your data there can be no driverless cars [06:01]
mircea_popescu but i don't want driverless cars. [06:01]
mircea_popescu i want like... 5 cars per mn pop, and driven by buxom topless chicks. [06:02]
jcpham me neither but google still needs the data [06:02]
jcpham google's new game turns your cell phone into a street view camera [06:02]
mircea_popescu think how great london would be if there were like 30 cars in all of it [06:02]
jcpham and i could tear through the streets as fast as i want? [06:03]
mircea_popescu well pretty much [06:03]
jcpham pretty freaking awesome [06:03]
mircea_popescu you'd have to get D cups to be allowed to drive tho [06:04]
smickles mircea_popescu: only one that looks strange is opera on debian 6 [06:04]
mircea_popescu smickles a ok disregard then [06:04]
mircea_popescu btw : i'm working with a crew to release a bitcoin 2 minute video. if it comes through it will be lulzy. [06:05]
smickles oh, well, that widget i was asking about is slightly off on some things [06:05]
smickles lolwut: http://api.browsershots.org/png/original/08/0854ae5085fb55e12550a0c2135aa06e.png [06:06]
mircea_popescu windows rules so much [06:06]
smickles wow, dillo pulled a cert warning out of an http page [06:07]
smickles looks f'n sweet on links [06:09]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28291 @ 0.00050934 = 14.4097 BTC [+] [06:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28700 @ 0.00050712 = 14.5543 BTC [-] [06:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 394 @ 0.00050198 = 0.1978 BTC [-] [06:13]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00050244 = 1.1782 BTC [+] [06:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10311 @ 0.00050198 = 5.1759 BTC [-] [06:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12266 @ 0.00050119 = 6.1476 BTC [-] [06:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10878 @ 0.00049915 = 5.4298 BTC [-] [06:17]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5827 @ 0.00049915 = 2.9085 BTC [-] [06:18]
mircea_popescu dillo pulled a cert warning out of an http page << rich [06:19]
mircea_popescu [06:20]
mircea_popescu possible cause [06:20]
smickles ah, the truth will out [06:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10701 @ 0.00049912 = 5.3411 BTC [-] [06:21]
smickles that's only there for the fancy gen your own donation addy [06:22]
smickles currently, icbit is offering 7.85~x leverage [06:25]
mircea_popescu uh [06:26]
smickles it changes based on recent volatility in the buz2 market [06:26]
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mircea_popescu uh [06:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38473 @ 0.00049913 = 19.203 BTC [+] [06:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11200 @ 0.00050293 = 5.6328 BTC [+] [06:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22392 @ 0.00050669 = 11.3458 BTC [+] [06:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30000 @ 0.00051242 = 15.3726 BTC [+] [06:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00051864 = 9.3874 BTC [+] [06:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33966 @ 0.00052187 = 17.7258 BTC [+] [06:31]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16859 @ 0.00052393 = 8.8329 BTC [+] [06:31]
mircea_popescu !ticker s.dice [06:33]
assbot [MPEX:S.DICE] 1day: 0.00308319 / 0.00323193 / 0.00339944 (34024 shares, 109.96 BTC), 30day: 0.00180002 / 0.00331778 / 0.00339944 (941672 shares, 3,124.26 BTC) [06:33]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052576 = 1.2329 BTC [+] [06:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11463 @ 0.00052626 = 6.0325 BTC [+] [06:42]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005257 = 1.2328 BTC [-] [06:44]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30177 @ 0.000525 = 15.8429 BTC [-] [06:44]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [06:45]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.51000, Best ask: 12.51990, Bid-ask spread: 0.00990, Last trade: 12.51000, 24 hour volume: 19222.98667956, 24 hour low: 12.25000, 24 hour high: 12.55000, 24 hour vwap: 12.41369 [06:45]
mircea_popescu so it broke the .5 [06:45]
mircea_popescu well i'm off to bed [06:46]
* Now talking on #bitcoin-assets [16:15]
* Topic for #bitcoin-assets is: Bitcoin asset exchanges: http://polimedia.us/mpex || https://coinbr.com || https://cryptostocks.com || https://icbit.se || https://therocktrading.com || https://assets-otc.com || https://www.havelockinvestments.com || list bot commands: !help || Streaming trades only: #bitcoin-assets-trades || Net Chart: http://bit.ly/RPclBi [16:15]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052494 = 1.231 BTC [+] [16:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16450 @ 0.00052501 = 8.6364 BTC [+] [16:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10239 @ 0.00052974 = 5.424 BTC [+] [16:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20590 @ 0.00053001 = 10.9129 BTC [+] [16:15]
mircea_popescu 63! [16:15]
mircea_popescu 53 even [16:15]
mircea_popescu ;;ticker [16:15]
gribble BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 12.39993, Best ask: 12.39994, Bid-ask spread: 0.00001, Last trade: 12.39993, 24 hour volume: 25409.97316755, 24 hour low: 12.30001, 24 hour high: 12.60000, 24 hour vwap: 12.47317 [16:16]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052326 = 1.227 BTC [-] [16:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29950 @ 0.00052308 = 15.6662 BTC [-] [16:21]
mircea_popescu https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=95826.40 so it turns out ciuciu is in default [16:24]
mircea_popescu copumpkin ^ [16:24]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2855 @ 0.0005154 = 1.4715 BTC [-] [16:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00051517 = 6.182 BTC [-] [16:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11563 @ 0.00051474 = 5.9519 BTC [-] [16:25]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4882 @ 0.0005146 = 2.5123 BTC [-] [16:25]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12637 @ 0.0005146 = 6.503 BTC [-] [16:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8581 @ 0.00051382 = 4.4091 BTC [-] [16:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5332 @ 0.00051284 = 2.7345 BTC [-] [16:41]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22205 @ 0.00052168 = 11.5839 BTC [+] [16:42]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25650 @ 0.0005246 = 13.456 BTC [+] [16:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1410 @ 0.00053001 = 0.7473 BTC [+] [16:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10450 @ 0.00053053 = 5.544 BTC [+] [16:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5290 @ 0.00053212 = 2.8149 BTC [+] [16:50]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053177 = 1.247 BTC [-] [16:52]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15155 @ 0.00053212 = 8.0643 BTC [+] [16:52]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19550 @ 0.00053128 = 10.3865 BTC [-] [16:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18255 @ 0.00053212 = 9.7139 BTC [+] [16:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10813 @ 0.0005329 = 5.7622 BTC [+] [16:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58232 @ 0.00053291 = 31.0324 BTC [+] [16:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18100 @ 0.00053291 = 9.6457 BTC [+] [16:59]
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copumpkin mircea_popescu: he should start doing porn [17:22]
mircea_popescu all that's missing. [17:22]
mircea_popescu granny porn, maybe. for symmetry. [17:22]
Ukto heh, in the post ciuciu wrote "You now want me to pay back, following a list given by you the thieves. Am I correct?" Sounds like he got one of those dbl payments. [17:26]
Ukto So that means he has funds to make good on his buyback :P [17:26]
PsychoticBoy almost alll asset issuers on GLBSE are scammers and now that glbse is closed, the scammers come out of closet [17:26]
PsychoticBoy cuicui, goat, gigavps, name them [17:27]
Ukto I dont think any "bonds" on gblse ever did good/proper, did they? [17:27]
mircea_popescu oh, where was that image [17:27]
Ukto havent they all turned out to be scams? [17:28]
PsychoticBoy almost all, glbse investors are fucked [17:28]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15075 @ 0.00052811 = 7.9613 BTC [-] [17:29]
Ukto seems the mining rigs (the real ones) were the only ones that were not intented to be scams. (and even then, some try it) [17:29]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/dtng/c/src/134654389322.png [17:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.DICE] 7700 @ 0.00339999 = 26.1799 BTC [+] [17:33]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2342 @ 0.00052811 = 1.2368 BTC [-] [17:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35000 @ 0.00052922 = 18.5227 BTC [+] [17:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1968 @ 0.00053291 = 1.0488 BTC [+] [17:33]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2290 @ 0.00053346 = 1.2216 BTC [+] [17:33]
Ukto Namjies.. if he continues btc-mining, _might_ consider it [17:36]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18850 @ 0.00053018 = 9.9939 BTC [-] [17:39]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14750 @ 0.00053346 = 7.8685 BTC [+] [17:39]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9836 @ 0.00053346 = 5.2471 BTC [+] [17:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20735 @ 0.00053346 = 11.0613 BTC [+] [17:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9351 @ 0.00053411 = 4.9945 BTC [+] [17:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12814 @ 0.00053446 = 6.8486 BTC [+] [17:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00053445 = 0.5345 BTC [-] [17:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8236 @ 0.00053446 = 4.4018 BTC [+] [17:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2114 @ 0.00053452 = 1.13 BTC [+] [17:56]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31486 @ 0.00053452 = 16.8299 BTC [+] [17:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13314 @ 0.00053456 = 7.1171 BTC [+] [17:58]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.0005328 = 10.1765 BTC [-] [18:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1000 @ 0.00053455 = 0.5346 BTC [+] [18:14]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12200 @ 0.00053456 = 6.5216 BTC [+] [18:14]
pigeons I sent cryptostocks an email telling him to announce his trades for assbot [18:18]
mircea_popescu pigeons we had a chat a couple months back, he was going to do it then [18:21]
pigeons ok he's just on BFL time [18:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10467 @ 0.00053116 = 5.5597 BTC [-] [18:22]
mircea_popescu lol [18:22]
mircea_popescu so i've been top fish for ~2 hours now, smickles take that! [18:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053078 = 1.2447 BTC [-] [18:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00053054 = 4.7218 BTC [-] [18:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12655 @ 0.00052793 = 6.681 BTC [-] [18:27]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00053105 = 1.2453 BTC [+] [18:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32833 @ 0.00053116 = 17.4396 BTC [+] [18:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10517 @ 0.00053456 = 5.622 BTC [+] [18:29]
kakobrekla mircea_popescu how much did you blow on that game so far [18:31]
mircea_popescu i made ~3btc last time, i'm ahead about 3 btc this time [18:32]
mircea_popescu http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/the-biggest-fish-revisited/ sauce. [18:32]
kakobrekla screw mpex this is much more profitable [18:32]
mircea_popescu lol not rly. [18:32]
mircea_popescu 3btc/day = 100 / month = peanuts. [18:32]
mircea_popescu i think smickles made maybe 5 or so [18:33]
kakobrekla i sell about that much per month [18:33]
kakobrekla to live [18:33]
mircea_popescu cause he got lucky, otherwise i'd have been +8 last time [18:33]
kakobrekla 100, not 5. [18:33]
kakobrekla so i could live off fishes [18:34]
kakobrekla in theory [18:34]
mircea_popescu so go ahead. [18:34]
mircea_popescu click on me, put .2 in, have fun [18:34]
mircea_popescu so basically the forum wants gigavps to buyback bonds at 1.05 btc each + all the dividends [18:35]
Ukto ? [18:35]
Ukto whats this biggest fish thing? [18:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1619 @ 0.00053456 = 0.8655 BTC [+] [18:35]
mircea_popescu some game ukto [18:35]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9381 @ 0.00053461 = 5.0152 BTC [+] [18:35]
mircea_popescu http://78.47.168.188/ [18:35]
kakobrekla i love it how the link is direct ip lol [18:36]
Ukto Error: Not Found [18:36]
Ukto The requested URL / was not found on this server. [18:36]
mircea_popescu kik [18:36]
kakobrekla works here [18:36]
kakobrekla oh [18:36]
Ukto oh [18:36]
kakobrekla i see we have hooks now [18:36]
Ukto it was freom the link on polimedia [18:36]
kakobrekla what the point of those [18:36]
mircea_popescu i think just decor [18:37]
kakobrekla what is* [18:37]
kakobrekla damn a whole word missing there. [18:37]
Ukto i tried clicking hte how it works on polimedia and got taht 404 hehe [18:37]
mircea_popescu o that was old version [18:37]
mircea_popescu i should update the link [18:38]
Ukto dont see one on the actual game [18:38]
Ukto ahh [18:38]
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smickles 16:22 < mircea_popescu> so i've been top fish for ~2 hours now, smickles take that! << oh noes, i've been doing other things and my fish has been invisible for who knows how long [19:47]
smickles oh mircea_popescu, d'ja !ticker s.dice recently? [19:49]
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dub fishgame working? [20:37]
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Ukto hmm, did Theymos ban images from sigs? [20:48]
smickles sort've, i think you have to pay for 'em [20:48]
Ukto ah. I remember I used to see them, and noticed none of the pages I looked at lately had any [20:48]
smickles http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/13qosb/comparison_of_bitcoin_and_the_sec_definition_of_a/c76iqhn << i guess I f'd up a little [20:48]
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pigeons when does biggest fish ip on mpex? [21:14]
pigeons *ipo [21:14]
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smickles pigeons: i dunno if they will ipo if freemoney buys them outright [21:21]
* Ukto buys smickles [21:22]
smickles :o [21:22]
Ukto A brand new car! [21:22]
smickles :D [21:22]
Ukto After 100 monthly installments of 50btc. [21:22]
Ukto :P [21:23]
smickles :( [21:23]
pigeons ok i'll wait for the Satoshi Fishing clone [21:23]
smickles That better be a self driving car for that price [21:23]
* Ukto fishes for pigeons [21:23]
Ukto smickles: no. just interest :P [21:23]
pigeons 7% a week [21:23]
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Ukto Sup Jay-Woo :P [21:25]
thestringpuller smickles [21:26]
smickles thestringpuller: heh, just as I would've left [21:27]
thestringpuller nvm [21:27]
Ukto snickles :P [21:27]
smickles oh it's np [21:27]
thestringpuller hahaha [21:27]
Ukto "Don't get your snickers in a wad" :P [21:27]
thestringpuller Why do all games have shitty endings these days (random) [21:28]
smickles thestringpuller: I've got a link for you to have a gander at :) [21:28]
thestringpuller I will pay someone 100000 btc to make a good game [21:28]
Ukto does it have to be a story game [21:28]
thestringpuller yes [21:28]
Ukto or just multiplayer [21:28]
Ukto i'll work that later [21:28]
thestringpuller i want something with a story that compares to GTA IV or Alan Wake [21:28]
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smickles thestringpuller: http://starpas.azcc.gov/scripts/cgiip.exe/WService=wsbroker1/names-detail.p?name-id=L18030781&type=PENDING%20CORP. [21:29]
thestringpuller are you trying to hack me [21:29]
thestringpuller that link looks sketchy [21:30]
thestringpuller i'll open it with curl [21:30]
smickles heh, i wonder how curl will do [21:30]
thestringpuller NICE! [21:30]
thestringpuller smickles accounting corp [21:31]
smickles still pending tho [21:31]
thestringpuller Congratulations sir! [21:31]
thestringpuller why does it expire in march? [21:31]
thestringpuller pi-day in fact [21:31]
smickles they got it back on the 13th [21:32]
smickles so this tuesday, it'll be 2 weeks worth of processing a few forms [21:32]
Ukto do you have a cpa license? [21:32]
smickles lol, didn't notice pi day [21:33]
smickles Ukto: no, i'm a little ways off from being a cpa yet [21:33]
Ukto ahh [21:33]
Ukto well good luck with it! :) [21:33]
smickles thanks! :D [21:33]
smickles yeah, I'll be providing bookeeping, payroll, accounts receivable, accounts payable, consulting and related services. All custom taylored to bitcoin businesses [21:34]
Ukto once weex get going a bit further [21:35]
smickles I believe my plan for A/P is the most secure solution to date, private keys will never even be on a HD [21:35]
Ukto I plan to hire a cpa firm to do a weekly/monthly audit of all accounts [21:35]
Ukto usd, aud, cad, btc, etc [21:35]
Ukto and have them post on the same basis that all looks right with the world [21:35]
smickles aw, too bad i'm not a cpa, I can't do public audits :| [21:35]
thestringpuller when will you get your cpa? [21:37]
smickles thestringpuller: it takes years, the requirements are harsh [21:37]
thestringpuller heh [21:37]
thestringpuller Why don't you do it kingpin style and hire a CPA with an "offer they can't refuse"? [21:38]
Ukto why setting up the llc now then ? [21:38]
smickles Ukto: accounting isn't just what cpas do [21:38]
Ukto "Certified Public Accountant' primary purpose. :P [21:39]
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Ukto to Account [21:39]
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smickles really, a CPA licens is so that you can do Audits on publicly traded companies and such like that [21:39]
smickles almost every other aspect of accounting can be done by accountants who are not CPAs [21:40]
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thestringpuller could you help me become publicly traded [21:41]
thestringpuller if I had the volume that is [21:41]
smickles Oh, and a CPA can sign your 1040 as a preparer, wehre oters cant [21:41]
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Ukto smickles: I have had my own s-corps for the last 10 years. [21:42]
Ukto I generally file about 300 pages worth in taxes a year to the irs [21:42]
Ukto just for the businesses :P [21:42]
Ukto I have a geat cpa [21:42]
Ukto my personal/family taxes re bloated out to about 38 pages yearly [21:43]
thestringpuller what is a geat [21:43]
smickles I'm sure you do. Most people who are CPAs are excellent accountants [21:43]
Ukto Everyone should always have a cpa do their taxes [21:43]
Ukto if a cpa is not singing off on them [21:43]
Ukto then you are personally responsible for any mistakes, and could goto jail [21:43]
Ukto if a cpa signs, and tehres a mistake, there is a simple procedure to fix it [21:44]
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smickles ya know, a CPA can represent you in place of a lawyer in some cases? [21:44]
Ukto yup, just depends [21:44]
Ukto to get an EVSSL cert, you have to provide a letter from a lawyer, or cpa [21:45]
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smickles I plan to become a CPA, it just takes time, and I have to work under a CPA for at least 2 years before I can even attempt the exams [21:46]
smickles so I'll have to wait until my daughter and coming son are a little older [21:47]
thestringpuller children rule though [21:47]
Ukto I have 4 :P [21:48]
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smickles Ukto: i'm willing to bet you are older than i am tho :P [21:52]
Ukto just turned 32 [21:52]
thestringpuller you're old as shit [21:52]
thestringpuller jk [21:52]
thestringpuller jk [21:52]
* smickles just turned 26 [21:52]
Ukto lol [21:52]
thestringpuller i estimated you being in your late 30's mr. smickles [21:52]
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thestringpuller we would have gone to school together [21:53]
thestringpuller lol [21:53]
smickles heh [21:53]
smickles I went to a highschool that Jay Leno once called "fort fertile" [21:53]
smickles not at all because of me tho :/ [21:53]
Ukto lol, too bad [21:53]
Ukto :P [21:53]
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smickles looks like icbit futures might finally close above 12 [21:56]
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thestringpuller the price is going up though [21:57]
smickles thestringpuller: the futures market is a funny thing [21:58]
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smickles http://closeuptvnews.com/closeuptalkradio/pressreleases/StephaneRancourtPR.pdf&ct=ga&cad=CAcQARgBIAEoATAAOABA4brChQVIAlgAYgVlbi1VUw&cd=2Z-RgDku6TY&usg=AFQjCNFApu1dWyFMHK0QfOyVKTNhuLCIkw [22:29]
smickles er [22:29]
smickles http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&q=http://closeuptvnews.com/closeuptalkradio/pressreleases/StephaneRancourtPR.pdf&ct=ga&cad=CAcQARgBIAEoATAAOABA4brChQVIAlgAYgVlbi1VUw&cd=2Z-RgDku6TY&usg=AFQjCNFApu1dWyFMHK0QfOyVKTNhuLCIkw [22:29]
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knotwork Software to handle puts and calls on arbitrary pairs of assets is badly needed. That is really coming home to people today as they ran around negotiating large puts and calls to try to prevent a tipping point that could trigger panic selling if they don't get enough, and the right, puts and calls worked out and in place [22:30]
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thestringpuller knotwork: didn't that just happen in october? [22:36]
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knotwork well remember when bitcoin skyrocketed over $30, but tipped when it topped out? [22:37]
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knotwork easy apps to handle options maybe could have helped there, for example maybe if lots of options had been available for people to secure themselves a peak price for a few months so they need not panic... [22:38]
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knotwork a significant amount of secure debt was sniped today while everyone was already worried about skyrockets, massive players in the secured debt arena finally realised all their debtors would be sniped if they didn't cut their rates across the board, and everything wobbled [22:41]
knotwork everyone is running around trying to work out options bundles tht they hope can prevent the flattening out of the curves from turning into an actual downtick [22:42]
knotwork the secure interest rates of course are also key in many.most (all?) options pricing schemes so its hectic, then all the options will all have to be manually adminitered too [22:43]
smickles yeah, gl with comming up with a 'risk free rate' in bitcoinland [22:47]
* Ukto doesnt havt to work it out [22:47]
Ukto my options been up for months [22:47]
smickles I suggest yo ujust assume there isn't one [22:47]
Ukto just havent promoted it :P [22:48]
smickles Ukto: how do they compare to mpex's options? [22:48]
Ukto which is proper usage of your / you're? "claim your crap" or you're ? [22:48]
knotwork well considering t-bills are passed off as risk-free ... [22:48]
Ukto should be you're? right [22:48]
smickles claim your crap [22:49]
smickles you're is "you are" [22:49]
Ukto oh, good point [22:49]
Ukto must be tired [22:49]
knotwork claim you are crap [22:49]
smickles oh, right [22:49]
Ukto that does make sense too [22:49]
Ukto :P [22:49]
Ukto just wrong context [22:49]
Ukto smickles: mine is like an OTC options system [22:49]
smickles knotwork: if you want to use tbils, then we'd need a good way to convert btc into tbills [22:50]
smickles Ukto: do you work them out individually then? [22:50]
Ukto you pick call/put, you specify the deadline for exection, the strike price, and the option price yoiu want [22:50]
Ukto it gets posted on the list, and anyone can buy it [22:50]
knotwork no no i merely meant if t-bills are risk-free then obviously its a loose term of art to being with [22:50]
Ukto you can also make it 'breakable' so you can post 100 btc, and let multiple ppl pick outof it [22:51]
knotwork to begin with [22:51]
smickles Ukto: where's the list? [22:51]
smickles ;;view Ukto [22:51]
gribble Error: No orders found matching these criteria. [22:51]
Ukto option holders can also re-write the options back into the board [22:51]
smickles er [22:51]
Ukto smickles: its all on weex [22:51]
smickles oh, that makes sense [22:51]
Ukto I think the last option that was for sale got bought last night [22:51]
Ukto there is only one person writing options so far... seems to be doing good [22:51]
Ukto and about 3~8 ppl randomly buying them [22:52]
Ukto smickles: you dont have a weex accnt do you? [22:52]
knotwork when i said "arbitrary assets" I meant quite arbitrary. I have created several plots now, showing things in terms of different assets like wht does it look like if you think in litecoin, what does it look like if you think in devcoin, wht does it look like if you think in bitcoin etc [22:53]
smickles Ukto: nope [22:54]
Ukto smickles: want me to pm you an invite code? :) [22:54]
smickles it couldn't hurt, I could get to it sometime soon :) [22:54]
knotwork basically look at the [PLOT] links off of http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html and if you understand logarithmic scale charts you will see plenty of skyrockets [22:55]
Ukto considering copying the options code into the new asset site, so ppl can trade options on assets.. but I just dont think they vary enough in price to be worth using. [22:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24200 @ 0.00052758 = 12.7674 BTC [+] [22:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 881 @ 0.0005135 = 0.4524 BTC [-] [22:55]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1119 @ 0.00051334 = 0.5744 BTC [-] [22:55]
smickles if you could write an option for whatever you wanted, that would open up a lot of interesting possibilities [22:55]
knotwork i had to change all the plots to use logarithmic scale because otherwise all the tiny valued assets tended to vanish into the y-axis on the bottom, using log for X lets you see the tiny stuff as well as the skyrocketed stuff [22:56]
Ukto define "whatever you wanted" [22:56]
smickles suppose s.mpoe options on weex [22:56]
Ukto that would be on the new asset site [22:56]
Ukto not weex [22:56]
smickles oh [22:56]
Ukto weex doesnt touch assets, bonds of any kinds [22:56]
Ukto just btc/usd/aud/cad [22:56]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24181 @ 0.00051334 = 12.4131 BTC [-] [22:57]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1154 @ 0.00051284 = 0.5918 BTC [-] [22:57]
Ukto and offering options on mpex assets from the new asset system wouldnt be hard tbh [22:57]
Ukto just have to setup an mpex account, and ppl have to xfer the mpex shares to that account [22:57]
Ukto to be able to option it out [22:57]
Ukto cant be able to post options on somethign that you cant enforce [22:58]
knotwork sorry i mixed up x and y axes, its y that is log, x is time [22:59]
* smickles imagines a call on s.mpoe in devcoin [22:59]
knotwork well those smooth lines on the plots are of course the folks mostly valued by their compound interest deals theey have/had [23:00]
knotwork those are the ones having the interest rates crunch, so they are thinking hey maybe we can set up safe options, where we sell options to make a secure income on our heaps of this and that [23:01]
knotwork so pick any pair of this and that you have plenty of on hand and can no longer get as high interest on by loaning it [23:01]
knotwork and look into whether selling options both ways on such pairs you can earn as much as you had been making by loaning [23:02]
smickles heh, not much looing into, calls and puts are essentiall the same thing if you know how to look at it [23:03]
knotwork basically its like hey I have two things I can sell, but maybe if I sell people the option to buy one or to sell me (at les than i sell it of course) one, i can make money on my inventory without even necesaarily selling it [23:03]
smickles (ack keyboard) [23:03]
knotwork and if i do sell some of it, well it was looking like something might have to be sold anyway so what the heck [23:04]
knotwork ahh finally the latest sets of numbers are complete and i can plot new plots [23:07]
knotwork log scale makes the skyrockets look so un-dramatic! its almost worth not being able to see the low valued assets on non-log scale jsut so you can see how exciting the skyrockets were really looking [23:08]
knotwork it has been like oh gosh is Martian BotCoin doing what bitcoin did back when bitcoin topped oout over $30 ??? [23:08]
knotwork new plots are uploading right now [23:09]
knotwork ok they are up [23:09]
Ukto smickles: sent you pm. [23:10]
knotwork damn i turned the mousing thing off so i could make the chart bigger, but that turned off the ability to zoom, i can hardly really see if its downticks or just levelled off [23:10]
knotwork kind of looks like down a little for t least some of them [23:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6750 @ 0.00052547 = 3.5469 BTC [+] [23:15]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11303 @ 0.00051284 = 5.7966 BTC [-] [23:15]
* UncleScrooge has quit (Remote host closed the connection) [23:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052926 = 1.2411 BTC [+] [23:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00052956 = 2.4625 BTC [+] [23:18]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6176 @ 0.00052987 = 3.2725 BTC [+] [23:18]
knotwork ahh its really clear in http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/plotsharesinltc.html that shares took a bump in terms of litecoin but recovered [23:20]
knotwork since they all did i am guessing they maybe didnt take a bump at all but, rather, litecoin went up briefly then back down [23:21]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.00052332 = 1.2272 BTC [-] [23:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10000 @ 0.000523 = 5.23 BTC [-] [23:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1579 @ 0.00051284 = 0.8098 BTC [-] [23:29]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2345 @ 0.0005296 = 1.2419 BTC [+] [23:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13786 @ 0.00052987 = 7.3048 BTC [+] [23:30]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20063 @ 0.00053067 = 10.6468 BTC [+] [23:30]
jurov lmao the bot looks like most profitable mpex venture of mine :p [23:31]
jurov and to think it has catched dust unused for few months... [23:32]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12963 @ 0.00052105 = 6.7544 BTC [-] [23:43]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6238 @ 0.00052105 = 3.2503 BTC [-] [23:45]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4062 @ 0.00052557 = 2.1349 BTC [+] [23:45]
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