Forum logs for 25 Jan 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00049024 = 10.7363 BTC [+] {2} [00:28]
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mats mircea_popescu: i've observed that the number of cases meeting the parameters in the courts-circus project are very scarce: i've read every case involving the judges nubbins` listed, with the keyword privacy on Westlaw, which yielded about 90 cases [00:41]
mats mircea_popescu: but there are 11 judges with 0 cases and 12 with just 1. i'm now going through and reading every case involving USG, i've cleared ten judges this way, but the number of cases i've been able to find have been fairly low in number [00:43]
mats mircea_popescu: are you interested in loosening the requirements? [00:43]
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mats i figured i'd give it a shot before proceeding, i've put at least 400 hours in already and i believe there may not be quite a lot of useful data at the end if i continue this way [00:47]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2500 @ 0.00097526 = 2.4382 BTC [-] {4} [00:47]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10459 @ 0.00049322 = 5.1586 BTC [+] {2} [01:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6191 @ 0.00050758 = 3.1424 BTC [+] [01:23]
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assbot [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 2500 @ 0.00096062 = 2.4016 BTC [-] {10} [01:25]
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mircea_popescu I've been really interested in applying the smart contract technology to bitcoin-otc. Are there currently any active smart contracts or oracles doing escrow trading on bitcoin irc ? << no. people do thje trust calculation by hand. [01:46]
mircea_popescu multi sig and escrow are essentially bad patches to a broken trust model << mats is like the oracle on the topic now! [01:47]
mircea_popescu buttonwood_> There has to be a better way to do otc trades tho. << nope. isn't, for provable reason. isn't happening in practice, either. [01:47]
mircea_popescu !up coderwill [01:48]
-assbot- You voiced coderwill for 30 minutes. [01:48]
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mircea_popescu davout http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2t7k6w/the_emperor_is_buttnaked_btc_block_size/ << apparently you got haters [01:49]
assbot The Emperor is Buttnaked (BTC block size discussion with Gavin) : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1CpvB1r ) [01:49]
mircea_popescu mircea_popescu: are you interested in loosening the requirements? << perhaps. do you see meaningful expansions ? [01:50]
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decimation at the present time, it seems to me that bitcoin derivatives do not serve a real market need [02:00]
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mircea_popescu well, public facing ones anyway. [02:00]
decimation yeah. the public can make bitbets; that's probably mostly what they want anyway [02:01]
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mats mats is like the oracle on the topic now! << not sure if you're criticizing what i said there [02:25]
mats perhaps. do you see meaningful expansions ? << how about the production of communications to include voice, where there is a written record of it? e.g. transcript of wiretap log [02:26]
mats i was hoping you'd have a better idea tbh. [02:26]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4257 @ 0.00050758 = 2.1608 BTC [+] [02:55]
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asciilifeform !up Alina-malina [03:06]
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diametric http://vimeo.com/74025061?1 [03:17]
assbot Oculus Rift TV SPOT on Vimeo ... ( http://bit.ly/1uKvmxn ) [03:17]
diametric Somehow I've never seen this before. [03:18]
mircea_popescu mats was not criticizing, was approving. [03:21]
mircea_popescu how about the production of communications to include voice << im not sure right off what that'd do. [03:22]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7268 @ 0.00050758 = 3.6891 BTC [+] [03:27]
asciilifeform all you can verify, both the most and the least you can verify, are BLOCKS. << yes. [03:29]
asciilifeform now is the time for folks who have not actually bothered to read the fscking source, to confess. [03:29]
asciilifeform srsly it's finitely long. just do it. [03:30]
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asciilifeform you might need a decade to find all the weird, quasi-exploitable hair, but to get a basic understanding of how the thing works - is another matter. very doable. [03:31]
asciilifeform exhortation, from now on, abbreviated for convenience, 'RTFT' (read the fucking turd.) [03:31]
mircea_popescu http://www.dogeillionaires.com << who did this one ?! [03:32]
assbot Why Dogecoin is a scam, why the people pushing it are assholes, why Business Insider is a contemptible piece of shit, why anyone who ever worked for it will be dancing in the street for nickels and why Kevin Rose is a fuckwit. Plus other considerations. pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1uKxtRQ ) [03:32]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform i didn't actually. [03:33]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/#comment-111701 << 'confirmed' << i ponied up on 12/31, where's the 'confirmed' [03:33]
assbot The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1uKxzJ3 ) [03:33]
mircea_popescu i suppose it is a testament to my scholarship that i can actually get away with outsourcing the actual readsing ? [03:33]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform you're in teh list arentcha ? he asked me specifically to confirm. you're also confirmed! [03:33]
asciilifeform aha, did not check [03:34]
* asciilifeform lazy [03:34]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: i sorta assumed that you either read it, or had it read to you, or wrote compatible gadget [03:34]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: because you showed symptoms of understanding correctly how it works [03:34]
mircea_popescu nah, just, i know what qs to ask of people. "go read it and i'll ask you things" [03:34]
ben_vulpes amusingly, i was confirmed without paying. [03:35]
mircea_popescu i was also lazy. [03:35]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes guest speaker ? [03:35]
asciilifeform lol [03:35]
ben_vulpes almos [03:35]
ben_vulpes almost* [03:35]
mircea_popescu nah, ben_vulpes only scammed participant. neglected to send 2.x ended up sending 8.x [03:36]
ben_vulpes too bad i'm too bad of a scammer to pull it off [03:36]
mircea_popescu tru story. [03:36]
ben_vulpes worst story. [03:36]
ben_vulpes hatchu. [03:36]
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ben_vulpes for the record, attendance declarations are only binding on those who wish to attend, not his unimpeachable lordship mircea_popescu [03:36]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: lol i sorta assume he'll be there. [03:37]
mircea_popescu wouldn't that be the pirate of all time [03:37]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: i refer of course to the quoted price of attendance. [03:37]
ben_vulpes re dogillionaires, that was fluffypony [03:38]
ben_vulpes !s bitcoinate [03:38]
assbot 23445 results for 'bitcoinate' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=bitcoinate [03:38]
ben_vulpes mthreat this is almost worse than useless [03:38]
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asciilifeform ben_vulpes: i have been repeating, like mantra, 'stemming search must die' [03:39]
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asciilifeform because it must. [03:39]
asciilifeform it simply needs to get off the planet. it is an instrument of muppetry, plain and simple. [03:39]
ben_vulpes on a previous topic, eg bitcoinating [03:40]
asciilifeform does 'grep' include stemming? nein. [03:40]
ben_vulpes here's a proposed list [03:40]
mircea_popescu a kk [03:40]
ben_vulpes - download and validate blocks [03:40]
ben_vulpes translate block height to block hash [03:40]
ben_vulpes - translate block height to block hash [03:40]
ben_vulpes - return the height of the current best-known chain [03:40]
ben_vulpes - return a block corresponding to a given hash [03:40]
ben_vulpes - relay transactions to the network [03:41]
ben_vulpes (fin) [03:41]
asciilifeform seems like it all sits inside 'validate blocks', no ? [03:41]
asciilifeform so the postulates aren't orthogonal. [03:41]
ben_vulpes true enough [03:42]
ben_vulpes but there are subspaces, if you'll allow the floppiness of wording. [03:42]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform the reason, incidentally, i didn';t read it myself is i dun trust my rudimentary c understanding. [03:42]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: this is just the kind of manual which ought to live in a 'lions book' commentary on source. [03:42]
mircea_popescu best have ppl that spoeak the language tlel you what the paper says. [03:42]
ben_vulpes f'r instance, the thing should cough up on the command line, a block if given a hash [03:42]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: it's actually heavily idiomatic cpp. with extensive use of 'high level construct' libs like 'boost' ('iterate', various data structure diddles, etc.) [03:44]
mircea_popescu aham [03:44]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: rather painful to read for anyone who is not in a daily habit of birthing similarly flavoured monstrosities [03:44]
* asciilifeform had to open a book [03:44]
mircea_popescu "let' smake c more like java on wheels" [03:46]
ben_vulpes idiomatic cpp aside, thoughts on the list? [03:46]
fluffypony mircea_popescu: how can you forget my dogeillionaires redirect! [03:46]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes 2nd step, what's it mean ? [03:46]
mircea_popescu fluffypony ;/ so many lulz, so little head [03:47]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: if i know that the most recent block was of height N, I can ask bitcoind-node for the hash of the block at height N [03:48]
ben_vulpes (or N-1, or N-M) [03:48]
mircea_popescu this is an ambigous request. [03:48]
ben_vulpes because of multiple chains? [03:48]
mircea_popescu "on whjich chain" [03:48]
mircea_popescu yes [03:48]
ben_vulpes hm. [03:48]
ben_vulpes ofc. central concern, this. [03:48]
mircea_popescu the notion of N must be subordinate ot the blocks only identifier, its hash [03:48]
mircea_popescu (another bit of braindamage th epower rangers forced upon the world, other than "historical transaction validity" as a thing, is "block as aheight" [03:49]
ben_vulpes i see it. [03:49]
ben_vulpes "there is only one chain" as well. [03:49]
mircea_popescu this is nonsense of the first order, an utter antipattern, and iof they weren't stupid as frogs i'd suspect its deliberate [03:49]
ben_vulpes "antipattern" << lol [03:49]
mircea_popescu like sending you to hunt for snipes so yo ucan't be a huner) [03:49]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12800 @ 0.00051016 = 6.53 BTC [+] {2} [03:49]
mircea_popescu think of it as "chain of pointers" and now tell me who the fuck doesn't flunk the idiot that actually keeps an enumeration array for the chain [03:51]
mircea_popescu best way to crash undebuggably ever. [03:51]
ben_vulpes then this implies a requirement that a bitcoind-node know about and be able to return data about the various chains of which it knows. [03:52]
mircea_popescu depends what are you trying to do / [03:53]
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ben_vulpes spec a node, i guess. [03:54]
mircea_popescu with the list i mean. [03:54]
asciilifeform chain of pointers << tree. [03:56]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform right. [03:56]
ben_vulpes if you'll forgive the glib response, figure out what can be riven from the satoshi codebase [03:57]
asciilifeform (satoshi did not go in for book-learning, it seems, esp. re: data structures, but that doesn't mean that we have to forget school) [03:57]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes no asciilifeform put it in proper terms. it's a tree. [03:57]
mircea_popescu you can, if you wish, implement a function that returns "equibranches" on a tree. [03:57]
mircea_popescu but this is a secondary consideration. [03:57]
ben_vulpes secondary to? [03:59]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform it does, unfortunately, mean that they who did forget / never had what to forget can pass for "geniuses" [03:59]
mircea_popescu but it is what it is. [04:00]
asciilifeform wai wat [04:00]
asciilifeform the pleasures of reinvention ? [04:00]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform no, just the power ranger lot. they'd have (i optimistically assume) been excluded / self out-selected if the satoshi actually understood programming. [04:01]
* ben_vulpes is but a humble student of the trade [04:01]
mircea_popescu a codebase that's written by a monkey is more liable to attact "do-ocracy" monkeys than one written by a sane person. [04:01]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: hard to say. dead rat and dead lion get eaten by crows just the same [04:02]
mircea_popescu also true. i guess it may drop here. [04:02]
asciilifeform or... [04:02]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes secondary to whatever it is you're doing. [04:02]
asciilifeform i can picture a surface so mirror-smooth that barnacles cannot stick. [04:02]
asciilifeform but not often have seen this in life. [04:02]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform emacs, right ? :D [04:02]
asciilifeform obligatory: https://gist.github.com/pete/665971 [04:03]
assbot Various implementations of the 'cat' command, for comparison. ... ( http://bit.ly/1C02pQ8 ) [04:03]
mircea_popescu http://41.media.tumblr.com/ea602c535d351e849b76fe966a013294/tumblr_nbhlmf6IBJ1sb822ho1_500.jpg pic related. [04:03]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1C02qUc ) [04:03]
mircea_popescu 782 22684 gnu-cat.c o.O [04:04]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11350 @ 0.00051484 = 5.8434 BTC [+] [04:05]
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mircea_popescu anyway, so gnu's written in php. what's new. [04:06]
mircea_popescu static char line_buf[LINE_COUNTER_BUF_LEN] = { ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', ' ', '0', ' ', '' }; [04:07]
mircea_popescu ok i've seen enough [04:08]
mircea_popescu unless the number of lines is larger than 999999. */ [04:08]
ben_vulpes my eyes :( [04:08]
* asciilifeform linked this for a reason. [04:09]
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* mircea_popescu is brb, making 999999 line files. [04:09]
nubbins` https://i.imgur.com/FYSrEMp.jpg [04:09]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1C03zuW ) [04:09]
nubbins` found it [04:09]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: go straight for MAXINT. [04:10]
mircea_popescu nubbins` i can tell by some of the pixels. [04:10]
mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/884ac86273060b7f8a5acbd3df900483/tumblr_nh3ii8btd11sb822ho1_500.jpg <<< HANDCARVED [04:10]
nubbins` heh [04:11]
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ben_vulpes i discovered recently that "baby" carrots aren't so much "lathed" as they are knocked around in a conical abrasive vessel [04:12]
ben_vulpes thestringpuller: you flappin [04:12]
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mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/#comment-111706 << ne1 know this guy ? [04:14]
assbot The conference, third edition pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1C04wU3 ) [04:14]
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ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: http://www.saucal.com/ [04:16]
assbot Web Design, Development and Inbound Marketing in Calgary | Saucal ... ( http://bit.ly/1C04Phv ) [04:16]
mircea_popescu ok... ? [04:16]
* ben_vulpes shrugs [04:16]
ben_vulpes 'tis all i got [04:17]
ben_vulpes perhaps a lonely registered participant? [04:17]
nubbins` http://hyperfool.com/ufcknubbins.mp4 [04:17]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9250 @ 0.00051512 = 4.7649 BTC [+] {2} [04:17]
mircea_popescu so what's going to be your next victim, nubbins` ? [04:20]
nubbins` a bowl of cereal [04:22]
fluffypony lol [04:22]
mod6 maybe it's this guy: http://www.wired.com/2013/10/robocoin_here/ [04:22]
assbot World's First Bitcoin ATM Arrives at Coffee Shop, Goes Live Tomorrow | WIRED ... ( http://bit.ly/1C05G1Y ) [04:22]
mod6 oh nm. [04:23]
mircea_popescu the fucking headlines these people are doing [04:23]
fluffypony Nubbins`: you should launch FNC, FuckNubbinsCoin [04:24]
mircea_popescu winchel would chisel them into little egg supports. [04:24]
fluffypony You already have a logo [04:24]
mod6 well then theres this: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/mitchelldemeter [04:24]
assbot Mitchell Demeter | LinkedIn ... ( http://bit.ly/1C05Xls ) [04:24]
nubbins` fluffypony i lel'd heartily at the video [04:24]
mircea_popescu yeah nubbins` print it on a square piece of cloth [04:24]
mircea_popescu "artisan" [04:24]
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nubbins` big reveal at the start: lasered art in wood [04:24]
mod6 Cointrader exchange, etc? *shrug* [04:24]
nubbins` then he fucks with it with his dremel w/ the sandpaper attachment (??) [04:24]
nubbins` sprays water on it at one point [04:25]
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ben_vulpes https://www.linkedin.com/in/mitchellcallahan << mod6 i found this one [04:25]
nubbins` y'know, like you do with wood [04:25]
assbot Mitchell Callahan | LinkedIn ... ( http://bit.ly/1C068Nx ) [04:25]
fluffypony Only watermelon ivory [04:25]
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ben_vulpes ah, he's a Joseph David stoolie [04:25]
ben_vulpes how was the strip club, hanbot? [04:26]
mircea_popescu joseph david ?! [04:26]
ben_vulpes David Joseph? [04:26]
ben_vulpes CaVirtEx [04:26]
ben_vulpes the one who did a runner with a Havelock "raise" [04:26]
ben_vulpes heh. "one". [04:26]
mircea_popescu lol [04:27]
mircea_popescu wait. wasn't that kumala that did the vtx thing ? [04:27]
ben_vulpes oh is there a CaVirtEx and VirtEx? [04:28]
mircea_popescu yes. [04:28]
ben_vulpes nm [04:28]
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ben_vulpes ah it's the whole gang [04:29]
mod6 ben_vulpes: oh my bad. my eyes are bleary. [04:29]
ben_vulpes mod6: my contacts are gumming up too :) [04:29]
mircea_popescu CAVirtex, Canada’s largest and oldest Bitcoin online exchange, is facing a potential class action lawsuit to the tune of $884,880 CAD. The alleged losses were incurred by the lawsuit-bringers after the company offered 10% of its shares for sale on the cryptocurrency-based asset exchange, Havelock Investments then stopped listing the stock by the end of 2013. [04:30]
mircea_popescu apparently it is... both [04:30]
mircea_popescu o.o [04:30]
ben_vulpes wait, cavirtex is virtex? [04:31]
ben_vulpes was i right for once? [04:31]
ben_vulpes lol will wonders never cease [04:31]
mircea_popescu no. they're different, however, [04:31]
pete_dushenski pretty sure ya [04:31]
mircea_popescu they both scammed. [04:31]
pete_dushenski lol oh [04:31]
fluffypony Different scams [04:31]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: i've met mitch callahan a couple times irl [04:31]
mircea_popescu these guys "delisted" at a 25% buyback that they didn't really honor [04:31]
fluffypony Also not to be confused with Virturex [04:32]
mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/print-page-cryptostocks-vircurex-vcx-going-public.htm << i was thinking of vircurex tho [04:32]
assbot Print Page - [CRYPTOSTOCKS] Vircurex [VCX] - Going public ... ( http://bit.ly/1C07kR7 ) [04:32]
mircea_popescu fluffypony right [04:32]
mircea_popescu what do we do once they simply start repeating names ? [04:33]
pete_dushenski 2.0! [04:33]
ben_vulpes can we stop caring about scams yet? [04:33]
mircea_popescu BFL the "Exchange" , pirate the asic manufacturer, woodcutter the ponzi scheme... [04:33]
pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: almost [04:33]
ben_vulpes srsly, woodchopper? [04:33]
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mircea_popescu ben_vulpes only if you're willing to cut noobs entirely loose [04:33]
ben_vulpes they're already cut loose. can't get into b-a [04:34]
ben_vulpes no crusading valkyrie [04:34]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: anything in particular you'd like to know about your interested participant for the conference? [04:34]
mircea_popescu i thought nubbins was contemplating a genderbendin' surgical intervention. [04:34]
ben_vulpes only counts if it comes with wings [04:34]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski nothing in particular, just the general. [04:35]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes and a spear. [04:35]
ben_vulpes i thought he was going under the knife to get rid of the spear [04:35]
ben_vulpes "dick surgery"? [04:35]
nubbins` heh [04:35]
mircea_popescu oh [04:35]
fluffypony https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=934713.0 [04:35]
assbot Step by step. How To Scam People With New Ann. Coin ?? ... ( http://bit.ly/1C07OXo ) [04:35]
fluffypony Best thread [04:36]
mircea_popescu i think he has been delaborately confusing us to gain time [04:36]
mircea_popescu WHERES THE VIDEOS NUBBINZ [04:36]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: mitch runs a little coding shop, they do some web design as well [04:36]
mircea_popescu you know him / [04:36]
nubbins` he actually posted the video hey [04:36]
pete_dushenski his shop did the new website for cavirtex [04:36]
nubbins` http://hyperfool.com/ufcknubbins.mp4 [04:36]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: a bit [04:36]
nubbins` pretty rough watch [04:36]
nubbins` i'd recommend someone else watch it and give you a summary [04:36]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: we've met twice, once for drinks, once for coffee [04:37]
pete_dushenski he lives in calgary [04:37]
ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: https://www.cavirtex.com/home << but but that's the old site! [04:37]
assbot Canadian Virtual Exchange [04:37]
pete_dushenski actually he might've moved to toronto but no matter [04:37]
ben_vulpes 100% canadian lol [04:37]
ben_vulpes gets me every time [04:37]
pete_dushenski he's a programmer [04:37]
pete_dushenski i poked him to figure out pgp, he did [04:38]
ben_vulpes oh god not programmers [04:38]
pete_dushenski i don't think he's done his 6 months tho, not seriously [04:38]
pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: new logo! [04:38]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes shut up and eat your cult programmeas. [04:38]
ben_vulpes i ain't eating programmers [04:38]
ben_vulpes no females in that set [04:39]
mircea_popescu i ate a female programmers [04:39]
ben_vulpes a plural of one? [04:39]
mircea_popescu better than male. no hairs. [04:39]
mircea_popescu not even on neck. [04:39]
ben_vulpes just stay clear of her heirs [04:39]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: anyways, mitch sends me the off pgp-gram, and i recently sent him to the trilema jobs board [04:39]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes her heirettes might toss good salad ? [04:40]
pete_dushenski then he said "oh, what about this conference?" and i told him to leave a comment if he was interested [04:40]
pete_dushenski looks like he did [04:40]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski ah i c [04:40]
ben_vulpes herr heiress! [04:40]
ben_vulpes that's how the staff'll address my she-spawn [04:40]
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ben_vulpes aw i fucked the genders there didn't i [04:40]
mircea_popescu hopefully just one. [04:41]
ben_vulpes YOU KNOW IT [04:41]
mircea_popescu it'd be heiress herrin [04:41]
mircea_popescu maybe she could be called herring [04:41]
mircea_popescu then it'd be heiress Herrin Herring [04:41]
ben_vulpes i'm rarin to go harin' after herrin herring [04:41]
ben_vulpes anyways, how does this work in practice: 2 mining pools release a block (B, C), building off the prev (A) - do miners arbitrarily choose which child block to continue building on? [04:42]
mircea_popescu from the protocol pov, it's arbitrary. [04:43]
ben_vulpes in practice though [04:43]
mircea_popescu in practice either whichever they hear first or whichever has better likely outcomes [04:43]
ben_vulpes do ops frantically get on the horn to get their block into the long chain? [04:43]
mircea_popescu yup [04:43]
mircea_popescu point in case, march fork. [04:43]
hanbot how was the strip club, hanbot? << no buttered strip clubs for me, thanks, i'm off to play the grand piano [04:44]
ben_vulpes what actually happened there? i thought the forked chain was rejected? [04:44]
ben_vulpes hanbot: *buttered* strip clubs?! [04:44]
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ben_vulpes what strange am i missing out on [04:44]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: come to think of it, mitch has been by assets before but under a pseudonym [04:44]
mircea_popescu " do ops frantically get on the horn to get their block into the long chain?" << through that process. [04:44]
pete_dushenski ;;seen menahem [04:45]
gribble menahem was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 11 weeks, 3 days, 16 hours, 22 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: lemme verify my id again. brb, heading to an office space. gracias for the welcome. [04:45]
ben_vulpes ;;later tell thestrin1puller ffs thestringpuller fix your bouncer [04:45]
gribble The operation succeeded. [04:45]
pete_dushenski ^kid's not a joo even [04:45]
hanbot then it'd be heiress Herrin Herring << who opens up an earing shop, obviously [04:46]
ben_vulpes the fork-block didn't make it into the main chain, correct? [04:46]
mircea_popescu you're talking of ambiguous things as if they were specified. [04:47]
mircea_popescu "the winner of world war three was a good man, right ? [04:47]
mircea_popescu "totally" [04:47]
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mircea_popescu hanbot hopefully she's earnin' with it. [04:49]
ben_vulpes "main chain" << the ambiguous bit? [04:52]
ben_vulpes http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/10/25_notes-on-increasing-the-maximum-bitcoin-block-size-or-why-it-aint-happenin.html << hey ben_vulpes did gavin ever respond to that one ? << hey this one actually doesn't read too poorly a few months later [04:53]
assbot Notes on Increasing the Maximum Bitcoin Block Size (or, "Why it ain't happenin'") ... ( http://bit.ly/1C0aT9M ) [04:53]
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mircea_popescu yehn [04:57]
mircea_popescu pity you're not an economist like oleg andreev [04:57]
mircea_popescu or whatever other random css expert gavin found on fiverr. [04:57]
ben_vulpes amusingly, oleg andreev abandoned the only decent gui client for 'git' on os x [04:58]
ben_vulpes it's amusing to watch everyone manually patch the closed source turdball to cope with each successive os x upgrade [04:58]
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ben_vulpes in order to do what precisely with bitcoin? [04:59]
ben_vulpes certainly not hang out with the asshats. [04:59]
mircea_popescu man on stationary bike isn't catching any trains. [05:00]
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punkman http://hyperfool.com/ufcknubbins.mp4 < lol this guy, 1 hour to carve one huge N and he can't even do a straight line. just digging on the wood with all the wrong rotarytool bits. [05:01]
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mircea_popescu !up metsuno [05:01]
-assbot- You voiced metsuno for 30 minutes. [05:01]
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pete_dushenski metsuno: get a cloak eh [05:02]
mircea_popescu punkman he did it deliberately so it's artistic and unique [05:02]
mircea_popescu doh [05:02]
mircea_popescu there's a book "luxury rotary bits management" you should read. [05:02]
pete_dushenski unless web access is immune from ddosbot, i dunno if it is [05:02]
mircea_popescu i thought the ddos derp crapped out earlier. [05:02]
mircea_popescu anyway, im off. take it easy ye buncha socialists. [05:03]
ben_vulpes from hampshire? [05:03]
ben_vulpes metsuno you're going to get expelled hanging out here [05:03]
nubbins` hm [05:03]
metsuno sorry [05:03]
metsuno I'm shy [05:03]
pete_dushenski laters mp [05:03]
ben_vulpes pete_dushenski: how's the ride? [05:04]
nubbins` punkman i'm not sure why nobody is mentioning that the design is already laser etched into the fuckin piece when the video starts [05:04]
nubbins` then the guy just runs his dremel around the already-engraved letter [05:04]
nubbins` like... [05:04]
pete_dushenski ben_vulpes: parked for the weekend [05:04]
nubbins` maybe the man is mentally ill [05:04]
pete_dushenski it's unbelievably warm here [05:04]
punkman nubbins, oh it looked like pencil, but then I wondered about the outer circles [05:04]
pete_dushenski like +6C [05:04]
ben_vulpes nubbins` this comes back to the trouble of identifying malice vs incompetence [05:05]
Python interface unloaded [05:05]
Tcl interface unloaded [05:05]
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mircea_popescu davout well geneally yes, but some voices in particular seem to hate you personally. [15:45]
ben_vulpes guten tag saboteure [15:45]
assbot [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 39 @ 0.10061442 = 3.924 BTC [-] {12} [15:45]
davout i guess so [15:46]
mircea_popescu http://41.media.tumblr.com/7d46f615b1b0a8b15b62014971b174ee/tumblr_nguhfqJAEQ1sb822ho1_500.jpg happy panties on thighs day. [15:46]
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davout as the classical french wisdom goes: "on est tous le connard de quelqu'un d'autre" [15:46]
mircea_popescu jstolfi 3 points 14 days ago [15:46]
mircea_popescu It looks like he made his goal in life to be the most detestable person in the internet. (Methinks he is still nowhere near that rank, though.) However he is a precious resource, as an expert bitcoiner who enjoys kicking some of the most sacred cows in bitcoinland. [15:46]
mircea_popescu so apparently this stolfi brazilian derp figures himself some sort of stragetist or something ? [15:47]
mircea_popescu i dun think there's anything more adorkably pathetic than academics aiming for political power. sort-of like the bichon frizee trying to mount a german shepherd in heat. [15:48]
mircea_popescu dat dangling minipenis, a foot under the all consuming hole... [15:48]
mircea_popescu http://news.yahoo.com/colleague-slain-prosecutor-barred-leaving-argentina-215640674.html <<< pity we can't make bets on whether he "suicides" too. "protective custody" my foot. [15:50]
assbot Argentine prosecutor shot point blank in forehead: official - Yahoo News ... ( http://bit.ly/1EkmuBB ) [15:50]
asciilifeform Can Have Problems (tm) ! [15:50]
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ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: did you see cai guo-qiang's fireworks last night? [15:53]
mircea_popescu mnope [15:54]
mircea_popescu wassat ? [15:54]
ben_vulpes chinese explosives "artist" [15:54]
ben_vulpes did the beijing olympics [15:54]
ben_vulpes "paints" with gunpowder between vellum sheets [15:54]
ben_vulpes saw a scad of his stuff at the guggenheim when i lived in nyc. rather fun. [15:55]
mircea_popescu ah la boca. [15:55]
mircea_popescu well... i guess because i was mostly indoors ? only 10 or so miles away [15:55]
ben_vulpes suspended a bunch of cars right down the center of the place with flourescent tubes to evoke a fireworks show [15:55]
mircea_popescu ah [15:55]
mircea_popescu so not actual fireworks ? [15:55]
ben_vulpes well not the static piece in the middle of the goog lol no [15:56]
ben_vulpes he did the beijing olympics firework show iirc [15:56]
ben_vulpes https://twitter.com/CasaRosadaAR/status/559146735344562176 << haw [15:57]
assbot El periodista Damián Pachter viajó a Uruguay con pasaje de regreso para el 2 de febrero http://t.co/dUGwifa9AO http://t.co/muWhkHEvfK [15:57]
mircea_popescu eyah but you're basically assking someone in manhattan if they saw whatever cars in astoria. [15:57]
mircea_popescu it's a ways. [15:57]
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ben_vulpes yeah but fireworks! [15:59]
mircea_popescu dude. [15:59]
mircea_popescu was it fireworks or was it suspended cars ?! [15:59]
mircea_popescu anyway, either way i somehow didn't see nething. [16:00]
mircea_popescu http://latidobuenosaires.com/mapa-de-la-boca.gif << here's a map of ba barrios for the curious [16:00]
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mircea_popescu !up coderwill [16:01]
-assbot- You voiced coderwill for 30 minutes. [16:01]
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coderwill thanks [16:01]
coderwill just reading about this nisman story, bizarre [16:01]
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mircea_popescu quite. [16:02]
ben_vulpes the cars were at the guggenheim in nyc [16:02]
ben_vulpes yeeeears go [16:02]
ben_vulpes the guy does fireworks. [16:02]
ben_vulpes but whatever, irrelevant. [16:02]
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coderwill what does la boca have to do w/ the nisman situation? [16:03]
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ben_vulpes nothing [16:03]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17002 @ 0.00047318 = 8.045 BTC [+] [16:04]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes yup i missed it w/e it was. [16:04]
coderwill ah, n/m then :) [16:05]
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mircea_popescu http://36.media.tumblr.com/41e5fb4725d897b4889563a86f34f07c/tumblr_mgc1uhtoBg1r43ttjo1_500.jpg << guys suck at making cakes. [16:06]
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ben_vulpes kinda looks like the self-leveling stuff [16:07]
ben_vulpes scam [16:07]
mircea_popescu the woman or the goop ? [16:11]
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mircea_popescu "i said give me those buoys!" [16:13]
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mircea_popescu "Frank Sinatra had a terrible temper, as shown by his irrational hatred of Barbara Streisand" [16:28]
mircea_popescu dude paul anka is fucking retarded. how the fuck would a hatred of nosewoman be irrational ? [16:29]
pete_dushenski because rationality says: love jooz [16:31]
pete_dushenski or something [16:31]
ben_vulpes http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/americas-best-selling-cars-and-trucks-are-built-on-lies-the-rise-of-fake-engine-noise/2015/01/21/6db09a10-a0ba-11e4-b146-577832eafcb4_story.html << craaaaapflation [16:32]
assbot America’s best-selling cars and trucks are built on lies: The rise of fake engine noise - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ekyinh ) [16:32]
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mircea_popescu lol [16:32]
mircea_popescu i wonder how long until someone makes a sexnoises app [16:33]
asciilifeform obligatory: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=21-01-2015#985211 [16:33]
assbot Logged on 21-01-2015 01:41:29; asciilifeform: speaking of diamonds (specifically of the synthetic variety), one possible observation here - not concerning the idiocy of the wood thing as such - is that anyone demanding a specific 'colour' (as per the 'monolith' essay) - i.e. provenance - of object, is begging to be chumped [16:33]
ben_vulpes i've always wanted to crush some diamonds. [16:34]
mircea_popescu "Among purists, the trickery has inspired an identity crisis and cut to the heart of American auto legend. " [16:34]
mircea_popescu hjeh [16:34]
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mircea_popescu look, it's dying, what do you want from it. cars are pretty fucking stupid. they had an economic niche which made us forget temporarily, but it's closed up. [16:35]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: diamond cleaves along crystal plane - how do you suppose folks cut them prior to lasers ? [16:35]
pete_dushenski the fake car noises are because the cars are so well insulated now [16:35]
pete_dushenski and the engines are all turbo because "fuel-efficiency" [16:35]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski but the "idnetity crisis" is not because of the change in car noise. [16:35]
mircea_popescu it's because in the change in the future prospects of the whole activity. [16:35]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: i have a notion of how diamond cutting works/ed [16:36]
asciilifeform see the advantages: you can reprogram the faux vroom speaker for horse whinny. [16:36]
mircea_popescu merely disguises itself as "because X", like a domestic argument. in fact, it's becaue there's going to be a divorce. [16:36]
ben_vulpes i want to actually crush some. [16:36]
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pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: you're right, the identity crisis is that of americans as a whole [16:36]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: how does one go about crushing diamond? hydraulic press? [16:37]
ben_vulpes something like that. [16:37]
mircea_popescu well that's one thinmg, but specifically as to the car, this entire car-and-zoning-laws-and-sprawl-and-commute model got killed by the internet [16:37]
mircea_popescu THAT's disruption. [16:37]
mircea_popescu and it's killed and dead and not coming back and everyone and everything will change to get rid of cars, and of the sprawl [16:37]
mircea_popescu and of commutes and of the right of "governments" to decide land use. [16:37]
ben_vulpes us road infrastructure is falling apart due to expense of maintenance. [16:37]
pete_dushenski cheap gas might give it a few more minutes of breath [16:38]
ben_vulpes last generation's boondoggle. [16:38]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes understand : no mistress is ever pooir bnecause "of expense". [16:38]
mircea_popescu she's poor becauise she sucks at sucking cock. [16:38]
mircea_popescu it's only expensive because we're really done with them. otherwise, they'd be a "great investment". [16:38]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski notrly, because it's not really about the gas. it's about the inconvenience. [16:38]
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mircea_popescu people don't want to spend an hour driving, they want to spend that hour derping on a dating app [16:39]
pete_dushenski which would be why average joe can't wait to get a self-driving car [16:39]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: weren't they a grand investment for that generation? [16:39]
mircea_popescu (not for fucking, mind you. so give them a work at home job where no woman can ever come and a way to score nude tumblrs and that's the new economic model) [16:39]
ben_vulpes https://github.com/bitcoinfs/bitcoinfs << entirely unrelated. "full node" in f#, m$ "turdlang" [16:40]
assbot bitcoinfs/bitcoinfs · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1EkAb3m ) [16:40]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes yeah, they were, back when the interstates were built. that's perhaps the shiniest example opf "govt investment in slump" mantra. [16:40]
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mircea_popescu when it's fucking clear what to spen the money on, so clear even a govt could figure it out, keynesianism works. [16:40]
pete_dushenski same thing we're seeing in china at the moment [16:40]
pete_dushenski they've used more concrete in the past 3 years than usa in the past century [16:41]
mircea_popescu had bush spent ALL the stimulus on making internet connecxtions of 1tbps universally available, i wouldn't be here snubbing my nose at horowitz [16:41]
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pete_dushenski all for the interstates and highways and byways [16:41]
mircea_popescu yeah. bad call. [16:41]
pete_dushenski "but it worked for usa" [16:41]
decimation the problem with a fancy interstate is that it costs a shitton of $$$ for upkeep [16:41]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: when do we get cobol node [16:41]
decimation and of course it is politically impossible to admit 'we are too poor to have nice roads' [16:42]
pete_dushenski decimation: impossible sums of money [16:42]
mircea_popescu decimation i never heard of anyone complain that their 16yo cocksucker costs money to upkeep. [16:42]
mircea_popescu complaints start after the 30th birthday. [16:42]
decimation pete_dushenski: aren't you a fan of the econtalk podcast? [16:42]
* pete_dushenski is, fittingly, working on another car-related article atm [16:42]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: what about a cl node? [16:42]
pete_dushenski ya [16:42]
mircea_popescu lol pete, repackage this you're halfway there [16:42]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: that one is after nubbins` prints the fscking book and i read it [16:43]
pete_dushenski this might have to be part deux! [16:43]
decimation They had some guy talk about transportation in the us in 2013: http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2013/10/winston_on_tran.html [16:43]
assbot " + soundfiledesc + " ... ( http://bit.ly/1EkAYS2 ) [16:43]
pete_dushenski scratch that, it's going to be an epic footnote [16:43]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8943709 << also saw this this morning [16:43]
assbot Mezzanine: A Common Lisp-based 64-bit OS for VirtualBox | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1EkB0ZZ ) [16:43]
ben_vulpes abstractions atop abstractions... [16:43]
pete_dushenski decimation: i vaguely remember that one [16:44]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes you know teh second system effect ? [16:44]
mircea_popescu where people end up making ftp clients for firefox extensions ? because "it can be done" [16:44]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: see earlier experiment of the same flavour, 'movitz' [16:44]
decimation "But, when you sum these things up in terms of what consumers spend in terms of getting to work, various pleasure trips and non-work trips, and then you look at what shippers spend on shipping freight and so on and so forth, and then what the government spends building infrastructure, we're talking shares of GDP (Gross Domestic Product) that approach the amount that we are spending on health care. ... And that's just out of pocket [16:44]
decimation expenditures. " [16:44]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: it isn't that hard to port, e.g., sbcl, to 'metal' - but then you end up in driver hell. [16:44]
mircea_popescu decimation all of that used to not matter when one considered on the other side the even greater expenses of the available alternatives. [16:45]
mircea_popescu but that other side has evaporated. [16:45]
ben_vulpes i've seen windows 3.1 in javascript... [16:46]
mircea_popescu right ? [16:46]
decimation 'other side' being more or less 'private' transport and land use planning? [16:46]
asciilifeform death of the auto >> obligatory >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2014#833541 [16:46]
assbot Logged on 18-09-2014 16:10:16; gribble: Autosaurus - YouTube: ; Adbusters - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: ; Sim City: Auto-Saurus-Rex, Volcano, UFO's in Spacington! - Spacing ...: [16:46]
mircea_popescu decimation no. "working at home" , "jacking off to porn and looking at sights on pinterest" [16:47]
mircea_popescu work and pleasure. solved, and much safer than actually going there. [16:47]
mircea_popescu "it's certainly uncontaminated by any cheese", to quote cleese. [16:47]
decimation mmorpgs and other like games probably 'employ' much 'excess' capacity in the us [16:48]
mircea_popescu we meet irl once a year, and even that's extravagant for like half the people. [16:48]
mircea_popescu yet we meet here each day. [16:48]
mircea_popescu what if we had to phisically drive to vegas, like kennedy HAD TO in the 50s ? [16:49]
mircea_popescu we would, of course. so what the driveway cost would not be a topic of conversation. [16:49]
mircea_popescu who here is on an economy internet package ? everyone just "give me the fattest pipe you got" "oh only that ? INTRODUCE LARGER ONES!" [16:49]
thestringpuller I nominate mircea_popescu for the bitcoin public service award! [16:50]
asciilifeform lol, yeah, see recent thread where i 'what's a gb optic terminal cost plz' [16:51]
thestringpuller After reading all of MPOE-PR's post, I have realized MP has done the greatest public service to this community. [16:51]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform well you should have seen town meetings in the 60s. "FIFTY LANES WE MUST HAS! EACH WAY!" [16:51]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: laugh if you must, but my town still has these same meetings. [16:51]
mircea_popescu yeah well you're in the sticks. [16:52]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller you actually read the whole lot / [16:52]
mircea_popescu ? [16:52]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the road never actually gets expanded, of course. but there is endless derp on the subject, for so long as i've lived here (~11 years) [16:52]
decimation mircea_popescu: actually much of the worst road 'infrastructure' in the northeast are in cities where people stopped highways from being built [16:52]
mircea_popescu decimation im sure. [16:53]
decimation around the same time, passenger rail went tits up, so there's little choice except shitty driving [16:53]
asciilifeform there is rail here. it is mainly used to get in and out of wash., d.c. [16:53]
mircea_popescu boston actually had excellent rail system. perhaps the best in the us. [16:54]
mircea_popescu back in 2004, it was car after carful of people all reading a book [16:54]
mircea_popescu i've seen pics these days. half as full, everyone on gadget. [16:54]
decimation in fact, the sitting senator for maryland, mikulski, was personally involved in leading the riot to stop the connection of I-70 to downtown [16:54]
decimation because it was racis [16:54]
mircea_popescu it's just... moving around is dead. [16:54]
asciilifeform if only it were entirely dead [16:55]
decimation I suspect wash dc is one of the few cities with a major upper class commuting culture [16:55]
decimation because usg is too stupid to move to somewhere cheaper [16:55]
mircea_popescu decimation govt employees are not upper class. [16:55]
decimation heh, well it's what passes in wash dc [16:56]
asciilifeform actually, usg ministries where no official secrets are involved - now routinely let folks grunt remotely [16:56]
asciilifeform e.g., patent office. [16:56]
mircea_popescu of course the lord's slave mistress is what passes for upper class among the slaves. nevertheless, the actual upper class regards the favored equal to the common slave. [16:56]
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nubbins` cough [16:56]
mircea_popescu decimation how was teh connection racis ? [16:57]
nubbins` the book indeed [16:57]
thestringpuller ;;seen BingoBoingo [16:57]
gribble BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 8 hours, 29 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: perhaps we have your new pc here. << very interesting [16:57]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: have you made contact with BingoBoingo? [16:57]
thestringpuller QNTRA is stale :( [16:57]
mircea_popescu because usg is too stupid to move to somewhere cheaper <>< nah, not how it works. wherever it moves, the bedbugs move there too. it won't stay cheaper. [16:57]
asciilifeform ^ [16:58]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller i have not, no. [16:58]
mircea_popescu did he get browbagged ?! [16:58]
thestringpuller hope feds haven't kidnapped him. [16:58]
thestringpuller i swear d00ds were following me in fed-like manner in rural georgia last night. [16:58]
nubbins` what manner is that [16:59]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller did you submit an article or something ? [16:59]
thestringpuller I was gonna do some weekend snippet posts to help lighten the load. [17:00]
mircea_popescu so did you submit anything ? [17:00]
thestringpuller more of "inquiry". article snippet is still in VIM rite nao. [17:01]
mircea_popescu aha [17:01]
thestringpuller usually BB tells me if subject matter is "worthy" or not of qntra [17:01]
mircea_popescu http://36.media.tumblr.com/444e9675df9943ed6c6d5a885c8dd174/tumblr_ng4oj5R4S01tmf8ldo1_500.jpg << apparently chicks CAN be hawt in glasses. [17:01]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1BqaLOg ) [17:01]
thestringpuller but yea [17:02]
thestringpuller someone dropped this in my PM's >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=934268.0;all [17:02]
thestringpuller where do you find such tasetful porn?!? [17:02]
nubbins` who is burtw [17:03]
mircea_popescu burt wagner [17:03]
thestringpuller he ran a Pirate Passthru back in times of yore [17:03]
mircea_popescu ambiguous, was a pedo early bitcoin advocate with a ridoinculous hourlong webshow [17:03]
mircea_popescu was also one of the guys involved in "banker cartel" pirate bs. [17:04]
nubbins` o [17:04]
mircea_popescu in his defense, this later one was the saner of the bunch [17:04]
nubbins` show me an early advocate without a severe sexual disorder [17:04]
mircea_popescu iirc he even apologized and errything. dun recall if privately or publicly or what, years ago. [17:04]
mircea_popescu nubbins` ikr ?! [17:04]
mircea_popescu nubbins` you should fish out the shows tho, they're great. derp has the camera filming in demo mode [17:05]
nubbins` heh [17:05]
mircea_popescu and it's alltogether just a bunch of artisanship [17:05]
thestringpuller nubbins`: I guess their mommy's told them playing with their weewee is bad. [17:05]
nubbins` reminds me of the time i filmed my death & had it played for my school lit class while i took the final week off [17:05]
nubbins` frame changes to view from bottom of bridge [17:05]
nubbins` CONTRAGULATIONS in glorious chunky white vhs-c lettering superimposed on the bottom [17:06]
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nubbins` completely by accident, no way to remove it. we deemed it fitting and didn't re-shoot. [17:06]
mircea_popescu an hero is you ? [17:06]
nubbins` an hero wasn't me, a bunch of ears of corn broke my fall [17:07]
nubbins` then an unrelated scuffle on the bridge led to a man being thrown off, landing on me and killing me [17:07]
nubbins` it was a real roller coaster [17:07]
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mircea_popescu i recall this grandiose commie romanian cinema thing, where "so what do we do ?! " "well... he can jump on some ears of corn" "but the camera will pick them up". pause. "not if you cover them in a brick painted sheet" [17:07]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: I can submit writeup if deemed worthy otherwise It'll stay in the vim buffer [17:07]
mircea_popescu guy ended up falling on an inexplicable pile of bricks [17:08]
pete_dushenski http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/25/a-retrospective-on-six-years-in-the-car-blogosphere/ [17:10]
assbot A retrospective on six years in the car blogosphere | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bqbxuo ) [17:10]
nubbins` https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=935720.0 [17:10]
assbot [WTB] Laser-engraved blocks of wood ... ( http://bit.ly/1Bqbwqq ) [17:10]
nubbins` i lel'd [17:10]
ben_vulpes entirely unrelated, it strikes me that a full node should probably provide "getwork" type commands for miners [17:10]
nubbins` he's actually kind of an older guy hey? [17:10]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes why ? [17:11]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30300 @ 0.00051729 = 15.6739 BTC [+] {2} [17:11]
mircea_popescu "Preference will be given to those who provide video of them damaging the finished piece with a dremel tool." lol ok [17:11]
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nubbins` heh [17:12]
nubbins` there's screen grabs somewhere [17:13]
decimation re: baltimore: www.prrac.org/pdf/mohl.pdf "Over the next few years, RAM continued to protest the "victimization" of black communities in the path of the interstate, which purposefully seemed designed to take "the heart out of one of the most stable communities in Baltimore." Facing the removal of 10,000 blacks who lived in the path of the east-west expressway, RAM activists challenged the highway engineers who “view people as just [17:13]
decimation another obstacle, like a hill to be leveled or a valley to be bridged.”" [17:13]
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nubbins` incidentally his actual profession is "treatment plant operator" but w/e [17:13]
mircea_popescu "To most, the fact that Lila called Mitch a hero for killing himself is strange. " [17:13]
mircea_popescu dumbass purimericans. yo, seneca killed himself! [17:14]
nubbins` https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=935115.msg10255332#msg10255332 [17:14]
assbot Videos of WoodCollector Hand Carving: Care of MOB ... ( http://bit.ly/1zbqt24 ) [17:14]
mircea_popescu "to deny entropy that final satisfaction". [17:14]
nubbins` i probably would actually pay upwards of $100 for that piece, as-is. [17:14]
pete_dushenski ^all the car tawk is in footnote viii :) [17:14]
nubbins` A++++ would hang on wall [17:14]
mircea_popescu nubbins` that's a great way to end up in 20 years surrounded by junk [17:15]
nubbins` i purge as often as i binge [17:15]
mircea_popescu decimation you know i can actually see that argument ? [17:15]
nubbins` space is at a premium here 8) [17:15]
mircea_popescu not as to racism in any sense, but as to why it's a bad idea [17:15]
nubbins` anyway, my dad makes pen blanks, he'd love it [17:15]
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ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: i guess not in the spirit of modular design. [17:16]
decimation mircea_popescu: yeah I think you have a good point [17:17]
ben_vulpes perhaps better would be a thing that connects to the network, slurps out unconfirmed transactions and poops that back out as the mining input... [17:17]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes well, if you gonna do something, best know why you're doing it. [17:17]
thestringpuller nubbins`: this saga reminds me of some trailer park boys shit. [17:17]
mircea_popescu decimation i mean, if the entire objection to the mores of the black ghetto is that men don't live with the women they impregnate, and then you go demolish the one place for 500 miles where they actually do... [17:17]
thestringpuller ben_vulpes smokes now. [17:17]
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decimation the problem is that in democracy, it's really easy to kill off projects, so nothing is built [17:18]
nubbins` "Professional carpenters never, ever, EVER smoke in the shop. It's an incredible fire hazard as well as a personal danger since stimulants can increase the risk of slippage on a power tool. My father was an avid chain smoker and would never allow tobacco in his work area." [17:18]
mircea_popescu decimation sure, but on the other hand the job of politics is to avoid placing the table on the toes. [17:18]
ben_vulpes thestringpuller: smokes, let's go. [17:18]
decimation mircea_popescu: although in this particular case, the neighborhoods were saved and they ended up full of broken families anyway [17:18]
mircea_popescu well yes. politics doesn't work, we know that going in. [17:19]
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decimation this robert moses guy singlehandedly paved over many minority communities all around the northeast [17:21]
mircea_popescu http://38.media.tumblr.com/663d73bfaf012e37a252ea40446c14ff/tumblr_ngp5fkkC3O1tghbqho1_500.gif << why boobjobs exist [17:24]
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thestringpuller mircea_popescu: those definitely look real. [17:26]
mircea_popescu yeah. real bad. [17:26]
thestringpuller i would hate to fast forward 20 years tho [17:27]
thestringpuller swing low sweet chariot [17:27]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13800 @ 0.00049654 = 6.8523 BTC [-] [17:27]
mircea_popescu nubbins`: i suspect smoothie from the forums is kinda stupid << generally known as such. his behaviour throughout was, to quote hanbot "nothing short of bizarre" [17:29]
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mircea_popescu hm.... i never knew an "artisan" that works wood by the truckload ? this is akin to someone claiming to be dali explaining how he gets a truckload of paint a week...' [17:30]
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mircea_popescu assbot: Tinder Makes Its First Match in Antarctica -- The Cut << speaking oif which : the brave mthreat amongst us is going on a south pole expedition like next week [17:34]
mircea_popescu and he's going to try an' broadcast a btc txn from down there. [17:34]
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mircea_popescu fluffypony: ben_vulpes: that's precisely the current Monero architecture << heh. apparently sanity is not a luxury product. [17:36]
mircea_popescu coderwill: I was following a conversation on GitHub for Bitcoin.org, and found it interesting that Circle has explicitly requested to be removed from the site because it targets a different demographic from what they are searching for. << yeah., circle is looking for suckers / idiots / people who refuse to think. [17:37]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [17:39]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 249.02, Best ask: 249.23, Bid-ask spread: 0.21000, Last trade: 249.23, 24 hour volume: 23858.11300772, 24 hour low: 241.33, 24 hour high: 255.0, 24 hour vwap: 248.526571821 [17:39]
mircea_popescu decimation: I didn't realize that the Crimea was filled with Tartars << golden horde sez nothing to you ? [17:39]
mircea_popescu davout: seems to me that folks from /r/buttcoin are an order of magnitude less retarded than those in /r/bitcoin << this is true. [17:39]
mircea_popescu one group is motivated by greed, which brings all the idiots out of the woodwork. the other group is motivated by broken ideology, which HAS a barrier to entry, because you can't adhere to an ideology and act on that basis if you're arbitrarily stupid. [17:40]
mircea_popescu it's true that you can't be smarter than Y, but you also can't be stupider than Y, and so the average will always be over Y which is not an average /r/bitcoin looks likely to reach. [17:41]
mircea_popescu but this because of what /r/ is, not because of what bitcoin is. [17:41]
decimation yeah I knew tartars/turkic peoples were scattered around the middle and eastern parts of asiatic ru, but I didn't realize they had taken up around Sevastopol [17:41]
mircea_popescu there was a historically important tatar state there, [17:41]
mircea_popescu at times more important than the muscovy duchy etc. [17:42]
thestringpuller what happens when all these VC fueled comapnies fail? Do we just go in an plunder them and shit? [17:42]
mircea_popescu this is what one means when he says "lithuanian situation is complicated". [17:42]
thestringpuller ;;ud lituation [17:42]
gribble http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Lituation | You go to the bodega and a chicken cutlet is half off and they give you a free bag of chips and an Arizona because they know you. That's a lituation. [17:42]
mircea_popescu you could in fact pretend like wait, "give russia back to the tatars" [17:42]
decimation putin's landgrab of crimea has a great deal of historical and cultural importance, of which the west is almost completely ignorant [17:43]
decimation http://theden.tv/2015/01/24/jesuisusefulidiot-western-leaders-exploit-the-paris-attacks/ "What was the #JeSuisCharlie demonstration about if not about free speech then? The shortest answer would be: emopolitik. As Colin Liddell has defined it, emopolitik is: “the achievement of political goals and the destabilization of rival political systems through the selective mobilization and projection of decontextualized human emotions and [17:44]
assbot #JeSuisUsefulIdiot : Western Leaders Exploit the Paris Attacks | Thedening the West ... ( http://bit.ly/1yZqWRz ) [17:44]
decimation sympathies through social media.”" [17:44]
mircea_popescu well, "the west" in the sense of, "west of ozarks" are people who live in states bordered by straight lines. [17:44]
mircea_popescu obviously they imagine the world is you know, someone just walked out with a ruler cca 100 years ago [17:44]
decimation but 'that's how we do things here?' [17:45]
mircea_popescu decimation yep, that's pretty much what that was [17:45]
decimation "Concretely, this has meant giving massive publicity and a momentous political significance to the 17 people killed in the Charlie Hebdo and related attacks. This contrasts sharply with the treatment given to any number of other recent tragedies: the 1,400 girls raped by largely Pakistani gangs in Rotherham, England, the tens of thousands of victims of Islamist terrorism in Syria, and the over 4,000 people killed in the Donbass [17:45]
decimation region of Ukraine have not been given the same significance by the Brahmin classes of the West." [17:45]
mircea_popescu more relevant to our interests : the one public prosecutor murdered by the argentine state in argentina. [17:46]
mircea_popescu that's what i care about : statal terrorism. [17:46]
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mircea_popescu three guys that fire weapons by hand are not my concern. three million dickless schmucks sitting behind desks, those are the problem. [17:47]
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decimation sitting behind a desk breeds a kind of passive-agressive posturing syndrome [17:48]
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mircea_popescu which has to be beaten out of the afflicted, for everyone's benefit. [17:49]
thestringpuller ^- it's still a public service tho [17:49]
thestringpuller :D [17:49]
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davout decimation: "emopolitik" <<< this i like [17:53]
decimation davout: yeah it's a good term. note that emopolitik is called "political strategy" in the democratic west [17:54]
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mircea_popescu well because the intellect is rarely functioning and universaly expensive to fire up, whereas the emoprocessor is always on. [17:55]
mircea_popescu so of course any headcount-based system will try to talk to the latter. [17:55]
mircea_popescu this is why you don't want "universal suffrage" : it makes politics a matter of emo manipulation, like marketing. [17:56]
decimation "system 1" thinking vice "system 2" thinking [17:56]
mircea_popescu anyway, the solution is quite simple : do not give everyone voice. have a voicing procedure in place. [17:59]
mircea_popescu and the solution will prevail because the problems universal suffrage straddles its practitioners with are not only unresolvable, but actually heavier than the sum benefits. [17:59]
mircea_popescu and as such... it fails on its own. [17:59]
decimation mircea_popescu: one wonders why newspapers haven't caught onto this idea [18:00]
mircea_popescu the intellect is rarely functioning and universaly expensive to fire up [18:00]
mircea_popescu the only sort of situation where US systems approach survivability are very plain, obvious questions that everyone, even a turtle, would get right. [18:01]
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mircea_popescu which is whence the crisis-oriented politics of all US sytems comes from. the only time the US US made sense was during war with germany. "either yer fer or against!" [18:02]
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mircea_popescu so in general, sanity only needs very minimal measures to defend itself from the otherwise doomed attempts to relevancy of the us-ists : keep issues from becoming simple matters. [18:02]
mircea_popescu not a hard task these days. [18:02]
mircea_popescu (US = universal suffrage, not united states) [18:03]
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mats so meta [18:27]
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jurov lxr is same incredibly warty crufty stuff as mailman.. but seems i got it working somehow [19:01]
jurov http://ml.btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/ [19:01]
jurov oops http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/ [19:01]
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mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2015/ok-so-what-is-bitcoin-disrupting/ << my modest etnry to "most important article published on the Internet in 2015" [19:09]
assbot Ok, so what is Bitcoin disrupting ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1L8XsqO ) [19:09]
mircea_popescu wd jumae [19:10]
mircea_popescu oops. wd jurov * [19:10]
jurov if it had go parser, i'd put btcd there too [19:11]
mircea_popescu there must be one [19:12]
mircea_popescu gsuneido/parse.go ? [19:12]
mircea_popescu oh nm, i think this goes the other way [19:13]
jurov well... lxr is in perl [19:13]
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jurov maybe someday [19:14]
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mircea_popescu His mastery of the skill comes not from his ability to "cut around the lines" but in that he can from start to finish carve on some of the most difficult woods in the world to work with. Wood that 80% of your so called "master carvers" as they claim on youtube and the woodworking forums would not touch in a hundred years because it takes some serious talent to carve them. [19:25]
mircea_popescu im sorry... wut ?! [19:25]
mircea_popescu apparently the average chump believes talent to be a sort of spark-of-superman. [19:25]
mircea_popescu maybe woodcollector should carve a block of boron carbide next, as a super-show of his super-talents. [19:26]
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beautyon beetcoin Belxjander ben_vulpes berndj bertani_ [19:46]
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mircea_popescu http://tineye.com/search/60e43776e135af28e87b8d20f5facf024eb0b6c0/ [20:04]
mircea_popescu very useful ;/ [20:04]
assbot 0 results [20:04]
mircea_popescu if anyone wants to know what happens to "exciting revolutionary start-ups" once the burn rate burns through... tin eye is a fine example. [20:04]
mircea_popescu can't fucking find well known sets that are all over the interwebs. [20:04]
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Naphex https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=762075 lmao, mlm + ponzi scam kicking it up. [20:24]
assbot [ANN] BitClub Network - Passive Bitcoin Mining Opportunity NOW LIVE! ... ( http://bit.ly/15y06FE ) [20:24]
mircea_popescu "This sounds like a legit deal to me because the bitcoin mining can keep it going." [20:26]
mircea_popescu forum in a sentence. [20:26]
Naphex apparently a lot of romanians & italians are biting on it [20:26]
Naphex they get hooked irl ;o [20:26]
mircea_popescu gotta lose their bitcoins somehow. [20:27]
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mircea_popescu !up BombaUcigasa_ [20:30]
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BombaUcigasa_ salut MP [20:30]
CoraCrisT hey mircea_popescu . thanks! [20:30]
mircea_popescu np np [20:30]
BombaUcigasa_ nu sunt auth ca e web [20:30]
BombaUcigasa_ am intrat sa vad discutia cu link-ul lui Naphex [20:30]
mircea_popescu tis an english chan you know [20:31]
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BombaUcigasa_ much regret, very forgetful, many mistake [20:32]
mircea_popescu lol. [20:32]
mircea_popescu anyway, what discussion, flavour of the week tardstalk scam [20:32]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, anyone else who is interested in node on 'pogo' - buy yourself the box (pogo model 4.) i intend to post a recipe soon. [20:32]
mircea_popescu whole shebang ? pretty cool. [20:32]
BombaUcigasa_ onecoin/btcclub convoluted "mining"/MLM schemes [20:32]
CoraCrisT and don`t forget "the marketing plan" . they have all figured out it seems [20:33]
CoraCrisT just waiting for the horde to join [20:33]
mircea_popescu eh, read up on the ognasty thing , or the diablo whatever that was for the classics of the genre [20:34]
mircea_popescu i suppose now that garza packed it, buncha noobs will be trying for the "first best largest" bitcoin scam thing. [20:35]
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mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/40d5ac3fd9993ba9c6cc78f0b84b081c/tumblr_ndv41usdYt1tf8ygvo1_1280.jpg << dacia ftw. [20:37]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/15y2zjt ) [20:37]
CoraCrisT and many more will fallow.. [20:37]
CoraCrisT i love the high heels... they go great with the rustic roads back home [20:37]
CoraCrisT :X [20:38]
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BombaUcigasa_ dacia? [20:40]
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BombaUcigasa_ nu vad http://trilema.com/2015/ok-so-what-is-bitcoin-disrupting/, nu ma prind, e o problema cu site-ul, nu apare postul ... [20:46]
assbot Page not found pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/15y4g06 ) [20:46]
BombaUcigasa_ it works now [20:47]
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mats http://n0where.net/wpa2-halfhandshake-crack a new attack, i believe [20:49]
assbot WPA2 HalfHandshake Crack ... ( http://bit.ly/15y51X6 ) [20:49]
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asciilifeform mats: dictionary attack, snore. [20:50]
mats yeah. there are also easier attacks if you mean to go the rogue AP route. [20:52]
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thestringpuller ;;seen BingoBoingo [20:56]
gribble BingoBoingo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 12 hours, 29 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: perhaps we have your new pc here. << very interesting [20:56]
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thestringpuller ^- your ip is showing [20:56]
thestringpuller ;;ticker [21:00]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 254.41, Best ask: 254.94, Bid-ask spread: 0.53000, Last trade: 254.4, 24 hour volume: 28837.40598966, 24 hour low: 241.33, 24 hour high: 257.0, 24 hour vwap: 249.600325346 [21:00]
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Adlai anybody else see wtf just happened on btce [21:36]
davout Adlai: do tell [21:36]
Adlai 1min candle: high 261.64 low 240.01 [21:37]
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Adlai it looked quite similar to what happened a few months back on bitfinex where the order book reported an out of date book about $20 below the current one [21:39]
Adlai except that this now reports trades, and low limit orders got executed [21:40]
Adlai i guess it's nothing compared to some previous flash sells, just caught me by surprise because it happened in front of my eyes [21:40]
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davout hory shet [21:42]
davout way to shoot up [21:44]
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ben_vulpes ;;ticker [21:49]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 259.44, Best ask: 260.45, Bid-ask spread: 1.01000, Last trade: 260.44, 24 hour volume: 30063.99864451, 24 hour low: 241.33, 24 hour high: 263.2, 24 hour vwap: 250.107871168 [21:49]
Adlai ;;ticker --market btce [21:50]
gribble BTC-E BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 254.956, Best ask: 254.972, Bid-ask spread: 0.01600, Last trade: 254.972, 24 hour volume: 18007.40965, 24 hour low: 239.013, 24 hour high: 263.0, 24 hour vwap: 251.0065 [21:50]
mircea_popescu Adlai web exchanges realligning to otc, what's the big deal ? [21:50]
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Adlai the slippage :) [21:50]
ben_vulpes how can one align to otc [21:50]
mircea_popescu yeah well. [21:50]
ben_vulpes there's no price signal [21:50]
Adlai to learn of the otc, you must become otc [21:51]
mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=20-01-2015#984699 etc [21:51]
assbot Logged on 20-01-2015 19:39:33; mircea_popescu: but that's less important. what's more important is, bitcoin has no price signal and you propose to do derivatives. well... got some questions to answer. [21:51]
ben_vulpes anyways, first sunny day in months and the hipsters set the badminton net up *smack* in the middle of the swamp [21:51]
ben_vulpes must be spring [21:51]
ben_vulpes meanwhile blizzard in nyc [21:52]
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thestringpuller gonna be good snowboarding this week lol [21:52]
thestringpuller aspen niggas rubbin it in [21:53]
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mats http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jan/25/wikileaks-google-staff-emails-us-government [21:58]
assbot WikiLeaks demands answers after Google hands staff emails to US government | Technology | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1yiIapm ) [21:58]
mircea_popescu answers as in... what ? "yes, fuck you." ? [22:03]
Adlai for who will leak upon the leakers themselves/ [22:05]
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mircea_popescu "us company subsisting out of us fed subsidies fails to implement usg policy. is replaced with different one, nobody notices the difference." [22:06]
mircea_popescu wtf. [22:06]
mats replaced? schmidt has been a USG cocksucker since day 1 [22:11]
mircea_popescu that was kinda my point. what exactly would be the alternative here, google demures ? how. [22:15]
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mircea_popescu the usg is not going to like people fucking up its shit. that's not changing. google isn't going to start acting like anything but a usg agent. that's also not changing. what are teh staffers in question expect will happen, or expected will have happened ? [22:18]
mircea_popescu what's next, ima write letters to the vessenes fake foundation about how their power rangers are fucking up bitcoin ? [22:19]
mircea_popescu duh. [22:19]
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pete_dushenski might as well complain to the troika that they're pwning the periphery [22:22]
pete_dushenski or to apple that they're updates make everything worse [22:23]
pete_dushenski that's sorta the point of their continued existence [22:23]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: what's next, ima write letters to the vessenes << Maybe it's because I have autism, but why would you write them letters when you can publicly condemn? [22:27]
thestringpuller "Dear Mr. Vessenes', You are a poop. Signed, mircea_popescu " [22:28]
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jurov mircea can just twitterkill him [22:30]
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pete_dushenski i can twitterkill vessenes [22:32]
pete_dushenski mp can't, gotta have twitter [22:32]
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thestringpuller teach me twitter fu pete_dushenski [22:34]
pete_dushenski patience, grasshopper [22:35]
pete_dushenski first, you must learn to scrub floors [22:35]
pete_dushenski then you must learn to clean dishes [22:36]
pete_dushenski then you must learn to sew clothes [22:36]
pete_dushenski then, and only then, will i teach you the ways of the internet [22:36]
pete_dushenski Andreessen Horowitz is heading up a $58 million round of investment in TransferWise [22:39]
pete_dushenski Founded in 2011 and built by ex-Skype and PayPal engineers with the aim of making it easier (read: cheaper) to transfer pounds to euros, TransferWise says that it will be using the funds to fuel its global expansion. [22:39]
thestringpuller pete_dushenski: i love the jew fro. [22:39]
thestringpuller It's majestic af. [22:39]
pete_dushenski it definitely draws attention [22:40]
jurov such romance (*^*) [22:40]
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pete_dushenski lol [22:40]
pete_dushenski such fambly, this cult [22:40]
thestringpuller jurov: I think you mean bromance! [22:40]
pete_dushenski thestringpuller: wait, you're a dude?! [22:40]
* pete_dushenski kidding! [22:40]
thestringpuller XD [22:41]
thestringpuller I think I'm going to fulfill my Volvo dream pete_dushenski cause of your blog post lol [22:42]
pete_dushenski see guise! blogging works! [22:42]
pete_dushenski thestringpuller: you ever have a blog? [22:42]
thestringpuller anything I really post is on thestringpuller.tumblr.com [22:43]
mats tumblr blog. adorbs. [22:43]
thestringpuller I was thinking of that story I put in the comments of your post. ANd was like "Why not get a volvo? It's gonna outlast most bitcoin businesses while being 30 years old as is." [22:43]
thestringpuller mats: I KNO RITE. Not as adorable as my Xanga blog was. [22:44]
pete_dushenski thestringpuller: lmao i love that dylan scene from chappelle [22:44]
pete_dushenski "name da 5 best rappers of all time" [22:44]
mats whoa, xanga. i haven't seen that name in almost a decade. [22:45]
pete_dushenski "dylan, dylan, dylan, dylan, and dylan" [22:45]
* mats reflects on fond memories of social networks in early 2000 [22:45]
thestringpuller pete_dushenski: Yah! Because of people like Dylan, we can't have nice things. [22:45]
thestringpuller mats: Ya. My teenage school years. Such angst, such proto-social-networking. [22:45]
thestringpuller MySpace. Lawls. [22:46]
pete_dushenski ;;later tell peterl hey can we get thestringpuller.tumblr.com added to bablogs? [22:46]
gribble The operation succeeded. [22:46]
thestringpuller pete_dushenski: does your Benz take diesel? [22:47]
pete_dushenski eh no. it's not a tractor. [22:47]
thestringpuller Haven't really done my reading yet. XD [22:47]
thestringpuller My buddy had a diesel benz in high school. That thing was a beast, p. much a tractor, but man you could abuse that thing and it'd still show love 800 miles from home. [22:48]
thestringpuller I love cars like that. Shit you can drive in Siberia with 0 maintenance (like an asshole car owner), but the machine still chugs. [22:49]
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pete_dushenski well i basically live in siberia with health care so i guess that makes saddam perfect [22:50]
pete_dushenski (my 560 is named "saddam" in case you missed that [22:50]
pete_dushenski ) [22:50]
thestringpuller My buddy kept trying to convince me to get an E30 325 by BMW circa 1989 [22:51]
thestringpuller which I admit is tempting, but in the same sense as candy is tempting ~_~ [22:52]
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pete_dushenski the e30 was built in an era when only entry-level cars failed completely after a few year [22:55]
pete_dushenski back then, the higher-end motors were expected to keep truckin' for decades [22:56]
pete_dushenski as they evidently have [22:56]
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pete_dushenski of course, in the mid to late 90's, automakers figured out that all cars, regardless of upfront cost, should self-immolate after 10 years [22:56]
pete_dushenski if not sooner [22:56]
thestringpuller Ya. What's up with that?!? [22:57]
pete_dushenski ideally, from their perspective, cars would crap out as soon as the warranty expired [22:57]
pete_dushenski and have so many electrical gremlins that they'd be impossible to repair thereafter [22:57]
thestringpuller it's like Jobs' ideas behind the iPod [22:57]
thestringpuller warranty expires the day the battery dies [22:57]
pete_dushenski carmakers have been getting better and better at this [22:57]
pete_dushenski i think they're almost there [22:57]
thestringpuller some cars seem to be holding their own against the trend. [22:58]
pete_dushenski toyota, perhaps [22:58]
thestringpuller ya, mah girl has a Camry from 94-95 or something almost 200k miles on it and it runs fine. Road trip worthy and all. [22:59]
pete_dushenski but the increased homogeny between brands, a function of their sharing tier 1 and 2 suppliers, is hampering even the best of intentions [22:59]
pete_dushenski thestringpuller: but that's a 20-year-old car now [22:59]
thestringpuller pete_dushenski: yea but was crafted in mind 90's when the trend started [23:00]
pete_dushenski this is also why recalls are spanning unprecented numbers of cars, and stretching across brands at the same time [23:00]
pete_dushenski the japanese are slow [23:00]
pete_dushenski their morality is different [23:00]
pete_dushenski they have a culture of longevity [23:00]
thestringpuller thestringpuller: is hampering even the best of intentions << this is why tesla was able to get through even with mafia style racket in place. [23:00]
thestringpuller They are hedging on parts outlasting the warranty tho. [23:01]
pete_dushenski tesla is an interesting case study in incentives [23:02]
mats a reading of 'Consumer Reports' from some years ago suggests that cars are lasting longer... [23:02]
pete_dushenski obama needed a poster child, and tesla has definitely been one of his success stories [23:02]
thestringpuller ^- i kno rite [23:02]
pete_dushenski the company is entirely dependent on government subsidies [23:02]
thestringpuller i hate that tho. that there fame lies in that rather than just pure industry. [23:02]
thestringpuller and also "welfare" [23:02]
pete_dushenski consumer reports is "independent" but hardly impervious to cajoling [23:03]
thestringpuller tesla's suppliers are definitely trying to reverse the quality trend [23:03]
pete_dushenski the tesla model s couldn't have been anything other than "the best piece of engineering since apollo 11" [23:03]
thestringpuller XD [23:03]
thestringpuller such hyperbole [23:03]
thestringpuller but like the modern Maybach i.e. [23:04]
pete_dushenski thestringpuller: it's in the interest of the suppliers to ensure that they have business in the future [23:04]
thestringpuller rap couldn't truly save the maybach, but it's one of those dream cars that actually fulfills the dream from my limited experience at least. [23:04]
pete_dushenski the modernest of the maybachs is just an s-class trim line now [23:04]
thestringpuller yah the most modern. i was speaking druing the infancy of maybach music [23:05]
thestringpuller the maybach that picked up lil wayne from prison etc. [23:05]
pete_dushenski the last one was bespoke, but a dud compared to the phantom [23:05]
thestringpuller ^- this is why jeezy doesn't ride in maybachs [23:05]
thestringpuller which is interesting [23:05]
pete_dushenski ya i don't get the maybach at all [23:06]
thestringpuller didn't know you were the channel car guy, but again guess I haven't done my reading [23:06]
pete_dushenski maybe it's too arriviste for me [23:06]
pete_dushenski lol i didn't exactly advertise it [23:07]
pete_dushenski besides, onions are more interesting to hang out with ;) [23:07]
thestringpuller well it's dope cause I love working on automotive machiens [23:07]
mircea_popescu pete_dushenski> mp can't, gotta have twitter << twitter, this single shot rifle [23:07]
mircea_popescu sorta like a broom [23:07]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: but you can ride brooms and play quidditch and stuff [23:08]
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pete_dushenski more like a mop, really [23:08]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: obligatory: http://www.krasnoyeznamya.ru/gallery/rm_21_489.jpg [23:08]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/15ywCas ) [23:08]
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mircea_popescu mats> whoa, xanga. i haven't seen that name in almost a decade. << that azn chick still blogs on it. [23:08]
pete_dushenski twitter: soggy, used mostly by intellectual janitors. yup, that'd be a mop [23:08]
mats who? [23:09]
BingoBoingo I live. Got hooked into judging at a college debate tournament this weekend for quick fiat and an anthropological study of the reddit derp in the physical world. [23:09]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform quite lol [23:09]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo hey this was a shitty bender. [23:09]
thestringpuller BingoBoingo: i totally forgot. [23:09]
mircea_popescu bet pool was giving you like a week an shit [23:09]
mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/1bec07183b67b4101135a2d13acd5a92/tumblr_nblgzjOuLg1tku1fwo1_1280.jpg << "now sit your ass down..." [23:10]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/15yxbBf ) [23:10]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Only drank Friday night. Saturday night my loss of faith in the USian college leaders of the future pushed me into unassisted slumber. [23:11]
mircea_popescu eh don't judge the kids too harshy [23:11]
mircea_popescu they're virgins. [23:11]
thestringpuller XD [23:11]
mircea_popescu http://41.media.tumblr.com/bdb52bfba9b0b6f1fadb13ad57518626/tumblr_nblgyb5N0U1tku1fwo1_1280.jpg [23:11]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/15yxnR8 ) [23:11]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu is growing into the "nice grandpa" and not grumpy old man. [23:11]
mats good one [23:12]
mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/dbd560e399f2fcac62c14ed4d672bc22/tumblr_nbnan2prwQ1tj17cio1_1280.jpg << are these handcarved dogs ? or wts is that milling machine ? [23:12]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: toy car radio remote. [23:13]
mircea_popescu ah k [23:13]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: I actually got to hear it argued today that manned spaceflight is bad, because science is aligned against queer people and because science is aligned against queer people we should embrace human extinction. [23:13]
BingoBoingo I did not get to judge that round, but the nihilist "won" [23:13]
mircea_popescu did he win a .22 ? [23:13]
asciilifeform !b 3 [23:13]
assbot Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/028NZSE.txt ) [23:13]
BingoBoingo mircea_popescu: Maybe if I had a ballot that round. [23:14]
mircea_popescu http://40.media.tumblr.com/05e18ad19e50e3bb3f6828669fc88e86/tumblr_nboxos3khZ1s3k2n4o2_500.jpg athlete tit. [23:15]
BingoBoingo On the plus side I also got to judge speech events, which meant I literally got to watch minstrel shows and liberals were ok with it. [23:15]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/1zLAEd8 ) [23:15]
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BingoBoingo !up moldysnizz [23:15]
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* moldysnizz waves [23:16]
moldysnizz I really need to dig out my old workstation for my other signing keys. It would be nice to be back on the WoT [23:16]
BingoBoingo If I were drunk though I prolly would have IRC'd on the hostile campus wifi. I am so happy to have civilized internet again. [23:16]
moldysnizz BingoBoingo, have yo had a chance to watch "The Rise and Rise of Bitcoin"? [23:19]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6586 @ 0.00050253 = 3.3097 BTC [-] [23:19]
BingoBoingo moldysnizz: Nope, life is too short. [23:19]
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moldysnizz *chuckle* I rather enjoyed it. [23:19]
BingoBoingo I might see it eventually. I am just so thrilled though that yesterday I got to watch actual minstrel shows performed for free. [23:21]
moldysnizz =D How'd that come to be? [23:21]
BingoBoingo moldysnizz: Just before you got here http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-01-2015#992298 [23:22]
assbot Logged on 26-01-2015 02:05:42; BingoBoingo: I live. Got hooked into judging at a college debate tournament this weekend for quick fiat and an anthropological study of the reddit derp in the physical world. [23:22]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22956 @ 0.00050596 = 11.6148 BTC [+] [23:26]
moldysnizz oo fun! [23:26]
moldysnizz flask? [23:26]
pete_dushenski Anti-austerity Syriza party has won Greece's general election, putting the country on a possible collision course with the EU over its massive bailout. [23:26]
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pete_dushenski default time in the land of olive oil ? [23:27]
BingoBoingo moldysnizz: If I did it again... [23:27]
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ben_vulpes wb BingoBoingo [23:30]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Howdy. [23:31]
BingoBoingo Imma spend a few hours now reading trilema and listening to Lynyrd Skynyrd to get the liberal brainwashing out. [23:31]
BingoBoingo !up gabriel_laddel [23:32]
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gabriel_laddel http://i.imgur.com/YDS7DZR.png http://i.imgur.com/er5HT6O.png http://i.imgur.com/nsvxhzs.png http://i.imgur.com/Ius6a3h.png [23:32]
assbot ... ( http://bit.ly/15yBJYf ) [23:32]
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gabriel_laddel screenshots of programs that come with the #b-a distro by default. [23:32]
ben_vulpes how've you been? what've you been doing? [23:32]
gabriel_laddel I've been well enough. Working on the same project. [23:32]
asciilifeform gabriel_laddel: macsyma ? [23:33]
asciilifeform !s macsyma [23:33]
assbot 3 results for 'macsyma' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=macsyma [23:33]
gabriel_laddel asciilifeform: yep. [23:33]
gabriel_laddel but with true3d plotting [23:33]
ben_vulpes mlol i was talking to BingoBoingo, but same goes for you as well [23:33]
ben_vulpes glad to see your distro in channel [23:33]
gabriel_laddel ben_vulpes: lol thanks. [23:33]
ben_vulpes care to talk a little more about this distro upon which you've been working? [23:34]
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BingoBoingo gabriel_laddel: We have a distro nao? [23:34]
BingoBoingo ben_vulpes: Infiltrating IRL reddit. [23:34]
gabriel_laddel BingoBoingo: I'm working on one, yes. [23:34]
gabriel_laddel Built on top of funtoo [23:34]
BingoBoingo gabriel_laddel: Must build on Vax. [23:34]
gabriel_laddel ben_vulpes: I'll write something up now [23:35]
ben_vulpes neat stuff [23:35]
ben_vulpes !rate gabrial_laddel 1 not really new blood any more [23:35]
assbot gabrial_laddel is not registered in WoT. [23:35]
ben_vulpes !rate gabriel_laddel 1 not really new blood any more [23:35]
assbot Request successful, get your OTP: http://w.b-a.link/otp/63510a95016a3e34 [23:35]
gabriel_laddel yeah I need to get on that. [23:35]
ben_vulpes !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.gabriel_laddel.1:0fa2dead241f26026429deff8283cec0a1ab17b93ef5ece1fb5361eb7cfbe12a [23:35]
assbot Successfully updated the rating for gabriel_laddel from 1 to 1 with note: not really new blood any more [23:35]
ben_vulpes [23:35]
ben_vulpes gabriel_laddel: still have those keys? [23:36]
gabriel_laddel nope. [23:36]
gabriel_laddel destroyed in a failed backup :/ [23:36]
ben_vulpes ah, sux. [23:37]
ben_vulpes best time to plant a tree and all that [23:37]
gabriel_laddel yep [23:37]
gabriel_laddel though from a rating perspective, I don't think it matters if I wait until I release the distro [23:37]
* ben_vulpes shrugs [23:38]
ben_vulpes again, best time to plant a tree. [23:38]
ben_vulpes no sense putting it off. [23:38]
ben_vulpes victory goes not to those who are merely decisive of mind, but only to those who are also swift of action. [23:39]
thestringpuller ^- Always in a rush to the grave. [23:40]
thestringpuller "Stay awhile and listen" :) [23:40]
BingoBoingo ;;later tell nubbins' https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=935115.msg10257245#msg10257245 << Why would a professional cabinet maker do it to "put himself through college" [23:42]
gribble The operation succeeded. [23:42]
assbot Videos of WoodCollector Hand Carving: Care of MOB ... ( http://bit.ly/15yDBAp ) [23:42]
ben_vulpes HAND GUIDED router << anyone who works with power shapers knows better than to hand guide a router [23:43]
moldysnizz ugh [23:44]
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BingoBoingo Also... I smoke cigarettes a lot of places, but anywhere I'm generating a bunch of woodshavings is not that place. [23:45]
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punkman pete_dushenski: default time in the land of olive oil ? << that was years ago [23:46]
pete_dushenski myea, well this'd be part infinity in that story [23:47]
pete_dushenski i agree, no one particularly cares if greece goes the way of atlantis [23:47]
punkman 50-60% voter turnout, all-time low [23:47]
pete_dushenski we'll remember their contribution just as fondly [23:48]
pete_dushenski off to a late dinner, chip chip cheerio and all that [23:50]
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punkman "Alexis Tsipras is a tin-pot communist. May his time in power be short and his actions easily revocable." [23:56]
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punkman oh man the spain-tards sure love this guy [23:57]
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