Forum logs for 26 Jan 2015

Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
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gabriel_laddel I've actually done very little development for this dirtro. Most of my time has been spent finding perfect little individual peices and assembling them. Out of the box it has: [00:03]
gabriel_laddel - documentation (current borked b/c of gentoo's USE flag problems - cyclic dependencies) [00:03]
gabriel_laddel - Conkeror browser hooked up to parenscript. [00:03]
gabriel_laddel - the best GUI library available on current architectures (CLIM - Commmon Lisp Interface Manager). [00:03]
gabriel_laddel - millions LoC less than the browser, at least 10x more expressive. [00:03]
gabriel_laddel - based on funtoo, sources for all programs are included by default. [00:03]
gabriel_laddel - symbolic algebra via Maxima [00:04]
gabriel_laddel - 3D plotting facilities (animation, zooming etc.) No gnuplot or browser hackery. [00:04]
gabriel_laddel - state saving and restoration (currently broken) [00:04]
gabriel_laddel - lesson system [00:04]
gabriel_laddel - habit system [00:04]
gabriel_laddel - dashboard that reports e.g., LoC for the entire system. [00:04]
gabriel_laddel - js->ps transpiler (needs work) [00:04]
gabriel_laddel The browser, window manager, gui library and emacs are all connected to the same common lisp process and are explorable at runtime. Conkeror is based on Emacs and shares some of the same conceptual foundation, thus, the whole experience feels very lispy. The lessons system is 'dialed-in'. For example, you can specify that the user is to scroll to 80% of a particular URL, at which point you want the windows arranged [00:04]
gabriel_laddel 1/2 emacs 1/2 clim gui and XYZ files open with a (emacs) window arrangement just so. [00:04]
gabriel_laddel The state saving facility allows for saving saving and restoration of all URLs, scroll locations, files and window arrangement on a whim. CLIM gui applications that obey the recommended architecture can also trivially plug into this system. [00:04]
gabriel_laddel There are several other things that simply "make sense", but have somehow not found their way into mainstream linux. One of which is the dashboard. Currently it lists how many lisp LoC and projects are running on the entire machine. It also manages the habits system and allows for one to say, practice mathematics for 1 hours a day without fail, at which point it restores the state prior to starting the habit. [00:04]
gabriel_laddel All state is saved via persistent CLOS by default. [00:04]
gabriel_laddel no explicit transactions etc. necessary. Just `setf' the state of the object in question. [00:05]
asciilifeform state saving and restoration << sbcl's 'save world and die' ? [00:05]
gabriel_laddel asciilifeform: Nope. Though I should include that. The state saving is for files, window layouts, urls and their scroll locations. [00:06]
gabriel_laddel asciilifeform: iirc that SBCL functionality needs some work before it is ready for production. [00:07]
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* BingoBoingo is sarcastic when says needs to build on VAX, prolly should though. [00:08]
* BingoBoingo needs to get a working VAX [00:08]
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gabriel_laddel If anyone has requests for things they'd like to see in a dream distro. Let me know. [00:09]
thestringpuller gabriel_laddel: A copy of SimCity 2000 built in. [00:10]
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ben_vulpes gabriel_laddel: systemd [00:12]
ben_vulpes seriously though, sounds great. can't wait to give it a whirl. [00:12]
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asciilifeform what's a habit system ? [00:13]
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gabriel_laddel asciilifeform: say that you want to write a Captain's Log each day before going to sleep. Masamune formalizes this. [00:13]
gabriel_laddel And adds to it, e.g., when you start your daily mathematics practice it will pull up the previous state from where you left off. [00:14]
ben_vulpes is this a thing you wrote? [00:15]
gabriel_laddel ben_vulpes: yes. [00:15]
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gabriel_laddel Oh, I should note - no systemd. [00:16]
punkman badbitcoinadmin: did you steal all the coinz? [00:16]
ben_vulpes i was just joking, gabriel_laddel [00:18]
ben_vulpes but that's awesome [00:18]
gabriel_laddel ben_vulpes: I realize that, but no systemd should be considered a feature IMO. One I forgot to list. [00:18]
badbitcoinadmin punkman this is a role account for [00:18]
badbitcoinadmin is a specialty site taht focuses on tracking various coin scams & those running them [00:19]
asciilifeform lol! same 'badbitcoin' that was funded by gaw ? [00:19]
BingoBoingo !b 2 [00:19]
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punkman oh so he did steal all the coinz [00:20]
punkman badbitcoinadmin: are you in the wot? why "role account"? [00:20]
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badbitcoinadmin This account squats & logs #badbitcoin [00:21]
BingoBoingo So... what does account do here then? [00:21]
punkman so you are gonna track all the HYIP scams that take bitcoin? [00:22]
punkman why bother [00:22]
badbitcoinadmin right now, this was first thing I found that was set up for Freenode [00:28]
gabriel_laddel asciilifeform: do you know of any information about AMD Opteron's k8 microcode or the chip in question? I found but nothing else on the matter. Also, do you know of a better place to ask this question? I'm not a haxx0r. [00:29]
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asciilifeform gabriel_laddel: afaik, nothing has ever leaked re: the microcode structure. all that is known is how to invoke the updater, the approximate structure of the blob, and the fact that - unlike intel's - there is no crypto/authentication [00:29]
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asciilifeform gabriel_laddel: hence, one might learn something by trial and error (entirely possible to smoke the chip, sure.) [00:31]
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danielpbarron badbitcoinadmin, [00:32]
assbot Please To PGP (Guide for Linux, OS X, Windows) | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( ) [00:32]
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badbitcoinadmin I am familiar with PGP, but only have a few contacts who use it. What's next? [00:36]
danielpbarron instructions on how to register your key with assbot and other commands are here -> [00:38]
assbot irc_bots:assbot [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( ) [00:38]
badbitcoinadmin OK, I see, some crypto hoops to jump through. Might not do it until tomorrow, looks straightforward enough. [00:43]
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decimation re: wikileaks << it's pretty lulzy that the 'staff' idiots were using third party mail providers anyway [00:44]
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punkman interesting [00:50]
assbot Dolphin Emulator - Compatibility List - page # ... ( ) [00:50]
* asciilifeform thought that this could have been an emulator for the xerox dolphin, very disappointed [00:52]
punkman > now you can emulate it too [00:52]
assbot Logged on 25-01-2015 19:42:05; ben_vulpes: i've seen windows 3.1 in javascript... [00:52]
assbot The Emularity « ASCII by Jason Scott ... ( ) [00:52]
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asciilifeform punkman: the x86-in-js emulator is at least 2 years old, and is about as interesting as a full-sized replica of the eiffel tower made from toothpicks. [00:53]
asciilifeform which is to say, you might admire the patience of the maker, but at the end of the day, the only question is - 'why?' [00:54]
asciilifeform (what's a xerox 'dolphin' ? this: ) [00:56]
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mats ;;seen MisterE [00:57]
gribble MisterE was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 41 weeks, 2 days, 10 hours, 39 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: Deer Hunter was masterpiece [00:57]
punkman asciilifeform:'s has an impressive number of emulators that will work in browsers, I think that's nice [01:01]
asciilifeform 'work' [01:02]
mircea_popescu "you sure you put the car keys in here ?!" [01:03]
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punkman of course the real hero is [01:03]
assbot Welcome to the MESS Wiki! [MESS] ... ( ) [01:03]
punkman "supports 962 unique systems" [01:03]
mircea_popescu Imma spend a few hours now reading trilema and listening to Lynyrd Skynyrd to get the liberal brainwashing out. << i lollered. [01:03]
asciilifeform the 'let's run complex proggies in the browser' thing is monumentally retarded. esp. in light of how it actually works in practice (e.g. js and its all-numerics-are-floats, etc) [01:04]
punkman yeah I can't disagree with that [01:04]
asciilifeform 'let's use machine whose architecture is in no sense standardized, with approx. the performance of a 486 dx-100' [01:04]
mircea_popescu it's fun!!1 [01:05]
mircea_popescu standards are racist. the spec is the code. WE ARE BRINGING STUFF TO AFRICA [01:06]
mircea_popescu economists agree. i have heard from entrepreneurs. we'll discuss it in san jose [01:06]
mircea_popescu someone should make a gavin retardobot [01:06]
asciilifeform when do we get africa brought to these folks. [01:06]
thestringpuller ;;calc 5/12 [01:07]
gribble 0.416666666667 [01:07]
asciilifeform preferably maximally armed, demented africa [01:07]
asciilifeform preferably - to san jose [01:07]
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mircea_popescu that's not really africa, we'll call it isis [01:07]
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mircea_popescu ben_vulpes: anyone who works with power shapers knows better than to hand guide a router << it was hand guided by a robotic hand. [01:11]
punkman !up coderwill [01:11]
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coderwill thanks punkman [01:11]
coderwill good evening/morning everyone :) [01:12]
mircea_popescu btw [01:12]
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decimation gabriel_laddel: sounds like an interesting os, would be worth a spin [01:13]
coderwill afternoon too, oops. [01:14]
coderwill mircea_popescu: saw your reply RE: circle, yeah, it's almost like they want to be a venmo or square pay now or something [01:14]
mircea_popescu they want to be whatever takes no work and provides no service. [01:14]
mircea_popescu basically, they wish to be one of those vc scams where "it can't be proven they have no market share" and so... safe investment. [01:15]
mircea_popescu gabriel_laddel you might have something there. [01:16]
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punkman mircea_popescu: which dic are you? [01:17]
mircea_popescu i dunno it crapped out and gave me straight php code instead of executing it [01:17]
mircea_popescu $temp) { $loadpage = "Stalin"; $temp = $Stalin;} if ($Blair > $temp) { $loadpage = "Blair"; $temp = $Blair;} if ($Hitler > $temp) { $loadpage = "Hitler"; $temp = $Hitler;} if ($Bush > $temp) { $loadpage = "Bush"; $temp = $Bush;} if ($Hussein > $temp) { $loadpage = "Hussein"; $temp = $Hussein;} if ($Omar > $temp) { $loadpage = "Omar"; $temp = $Omar;} if ($Castro > $temp) { $loadpage = "Castro"; $temp = $Castro;} if ($Ma [01:17]
mircea_popescu o > $temp) { $loadpage = "Mao"; $temp = $Mao;} if ($Milosevic > $temp) { $loadpage = "Milosevic"; } include("" . $loadpage . ".html"); ?> [01:17]
mircea_popescu !up badbitcoinadmin [01:18]
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mircea_popescu what do you think a "role account" is ? [01:18]
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coderwill i wonder how they will monetize [01:19]
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mircea_popescu coderwill considering this is perhaps the 8th or 9th attempt, and all the previous ones monetized in the vessenes manner (whitewashing services for scammers)... [01:20]
mircea_popescu << the princess of freshair [01:21]
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punkman coderwill, so you work at [01:21]
coderwill no, i quit back in september [01:22]
punkman ah smart move [01:22]
coderwill ;) [01:22]
mircea_popescu are they cutting back on personnel too / [01:22]
coderwill i don't think so, it appears they are hiring after closing the round [01:23]
punkman did employees get any equity? [01:24]
coderwill no, not when i was there it was very strange [01:24]
coderwill there were promises of equity but nothing official that i saw (other than verbal) [01:25]
punkman !rate coderwill 1 for #b-a voice [01:26]
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coderwill thanks [01:27]
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coderwill people may have some type of vesting now that they announced they had that 30 million raise, i don't know though [01:28]
mats 20 to 30 inches of snow anticipated... wtf [01:29]
coderwill it's snowmageddon :) [01:29]
coderwill i heard it might be the most snow ever for new york city [01:30]
mats its hilarious that anyone wanted to pay so much as 1mn for [01:30]
mircea_popescu mats two feet in mass. [01:30]
mats ya. 75mph gusts anticipated [01:31]
mats o_O [01:31]
mircea_popescu anyway, everyone was driving their fuel supplies down [01:31]
mircea_popescu heating the nw may be problematic. [01:31]
mats that reminds me, i should stock up on food and water [01:32]
coderwill it's strange, we are having these crazy "polar vortexes" (last year) and now potentially record snow in new york, and earlier this year in buffalo [01:32]
decimation re: earlier conversation on the 'need' to travel >> << " Warnie Lewis, a leading expert on Versailles, never visited Versailles." [01:33]
assbot Bruce Charlton's Miscellany: Travel and the mind ... ( ) [01:33]
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assbot So /McDonalds is goin to start accepting a random type currency soon.. I wonder it its /search?q=%24btc&src=ctag /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash [01:33]
punkman balmy 15C here, no winter for me :P [01:33]
punkman well I did get 0.1 inch of snow few weeks ago [01:33]
coderwill i just saw a link the other day that at the same time, 2014 was the warmest year on record - also, something that in the last 10 years a ridiculous amount of warm weather records have been broken [01:34]
mats g-g-global warming! [01:34]
coderwill wild time to be alive no doubt [01:36]
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decimation [01:36]
decimation "As a result, GISS’s director Gavin Schmidt has now admitted Nasa thinks the likelihood that 2014 was the warmest year since 1880 is just 38 per cent. However, when asked by this newspaper whether he regretted that the news release did not mention this, he did not respond." < lol daily mail [01:37]
coderwill interesting [01:37]
mircea_popescu decimation "leading expert in english" [01:37]
mircea_popescu punkman it's about 28 here. [01:37]
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mircea_popescu coderwill the "warmest year" bs is just that. [01:38]
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decimation even the AP published a retraction after the daily mail called them out [01:38]
assbot Clarification: Hottest Year story ... ( ) [01:39]
decimation "The story also reported that 2014 was the hottest year on record, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and NASA, but did not include the caveat that other recent years had average temperatures that were almost as high — and they all fall within a margin of error that lessens the certainty that any one of the years was the hottest." [01:39]
decimation lol [01:39]
punkman mircea_popescu: does BA ever get below 0C? [01:39]
mircea_popescu punkman not in recorded history. [01:39]
mircea_popescu << hottest chick ever photographed. [01:39]
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mircea_popescu *note = other chicks photographed also hot ; exactly how hot is disputed. [01:40]
decimation also, there's a large margin of error, but we are really sure that there's a trend here [01:41]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: any thoughts re: whether we want an upgrade mechanism in the toy node ? [01:43]
decimation asciilifeform: gonna burn some fuses? [01:43]
mircea_popescu specifically no. [01:43]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: that was my thought. [01:43]
asciilifeform because guess who is certain to ask 'install upgrade plz' [01:43]
mircea_popescu if there's some sort of hole put in deliberately, [01:43]
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mircea_popescu 90% of its utility/planned use is surrepetitious "upgrades" [01:44]
asciilifeform we could conceivably 'tivoize' the thing [01:44]
mircea_popescu person wants to upgrade, torch the box set up a new one. [01:44]
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mircea_popescu nah, let the owner be in control. [01:44]
mircea_popescu but THE OWNER. [01:44]
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asciilifeform wasn't even thinking of remote upgrade, but local (insert image on stick) [01:45]
coderwill speaking of BA, i like the work this design company puts out down there: [01:45]
assbot Aerolab - Design and Development for Startups and Leading Brands ... ( ) [01:45]
decimation << " Now, the lame duck Obama administration has finally figured out how to put an end to Cuba’s Communist system: human wave attacks by hordes of American tourists in loud golf wear yelling “USA, USA!” and waving Visa cards." "Cubans are not ready for loud, aggressive tourists shoving money in their faces. Nor are these easy-going islanders [01:48]
decimation mentally prepared for tens of thousands of pushy New Yorkers (I’m also one) or overly emotional Miami Cubans who think they are returning royalty. Waves of carpetbaggers will pour in trying to buy everything that isn’t nailed down with their gringo dollars. Every Cuban exile sees himself as the next El Presidente." [01:48]
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coderwill mircea_popescu: re: warmest year stuff, yeah, not sold on it either, the weather does seem strange though [01:50]
coderwill mircea_popescu: maybe just cylical on a timespan that's not being well perceived [01:51]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the flip side of the medal is that these things are not the least bit difficult to reprogram. i can easily picture the phoundation distributing an 'upgrader' anyway [01:52]
coderwill e.g. 10 years ago, hurricanes were everywhere in the gulf of mexico, now there are very few [01:52]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: the most that can be done is to button it up so that replacing bootloader requires soldering on the missing uart pins [01:53]
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assbot Barrett Brown's Prison Time Raises Cybersecurity, Journalism Concerns - US News ... ( ) [01:56]
asciilifeform hanbot: for various reasons, brown was a good 'example to be made' [01:57]
asciilifeform and yes, he is probably guilty of, among other things, insulting a loyal servant of the crown. [01:58]
coderwill sheesh, that's pretty scary [01:58]
asciilifeform probably even of 'lèse-majesté'. [01:59]
hanbot i somehow doubt it's as much a piece of hay in the stack as all that. you piss someone off enough, they'll find what with to beat you. [01:59]
hanbot i'm only surprised it wasn't another "child pornography" circus [02:01]
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asciilifeform can't use the same six words to hang every honest man. [02:01]
asciilifeform gotta have some variety. [02:02]
punkman good thing everyone's dumpingall their thoughts on twitter and facebook [02:03]
coderwill it says that the majority of brown's sentence is from threatening an fbi agent in a youtube video [02:04]
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assbot Barrett Brown Defiant After Sentencing Over Stratfor Hacking ... ( ) [02:04]
hanbot ah, the time piece covers it better, yeah. [02:06]
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assbot Why I'm Going to Destroy FBI Agent Robert Smith Part Three: Revenge of the Lithe - YouTube ... ( ) [02:06]
asciilifeform does not follow that, had he not done this deed, would be a free man. [02:07]
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asciilifeform there is a ru idiom, 'Дело шито белыми нитками' - 'the [criminal] case is sewn with white thread.' [02:10]
asciilifeform it comes from the old-fashioned binding that was used in ussr for court documents - ordinary thread and cardboard cover [02:10]
asciilifeform when seals were stamped onto the pages in the binder, the thread - originally white - would turn blue, black, red, depending on the colour of the seal on that page [02:11]
asciilifeform but if the pages were moved around at a later date, from the state monkeying with the record, the thread would have to be cut and replaced [02:12]
asciilifeform and would end up white in places where one would expect to see a colour. [02:12]
asciilifeform hence idiom is used to describe criminal cases such as, well, this one. [02:12]
hanbot ha, i like it [02:13]
mats [02:14]
assbot One in seven Australians living in poverty, according to new report ... ( ) [02:14]
mats interesting definition of poverty [02:15]
hanbot anyway, ludicrous as the entire thing is, the usnews version irked me with subrug sweeping. there are ways to handle agents, and there are ways to set them on the vendetta path. [02:17]
hanbot and btw mats re that tinder thing: i remember several years ago reading about some similar jazz (a special watch iirc) in japan for people too timid to meet others on their own [02:18]
hanbot tinder seems about there. [02:18]
asciilifeform hanbot: 'lovegetty' [02:19]
asciilifeform it was, iirc, more of a pocket watch [02:19]
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hanbot o hey, exactly [02:19]
asciilifeform many, i imagine, disappointed buyers. [02:19]
asciilifeform machine - cannot increase operator's smv. [02:20]
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hanbot i mean...i guess if you're very shy, uninterested in changing that, and also interested in fucking other shy people adverse to change, it'd be great, but...really? [02:22]
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assbot Bug #662887 “internal compiler error during U-Boot compilation” : Bugs : gcc-4.5-armel-cross package : Ubuntu ... ( ) [02:34]
asciilifeform 'status: New → Won't Fix' [02:34]
asciilifeform shitgnomery. [02:34]
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mats hanbot: you are an american expat yes? and you understand the peculiarities of american dating culture? [02:40]
mats dunno that it has anything to do with shyness. more like... people have become more alone in spite of glowing rectangles supposedly networking us together [02:41]
mats anyway such apps are where the college chicks go, so i follow [02:43]
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* trinque scratches his head at the btcd+btcctl combo apparently not being able to look up an address's balance without the wallet bits [02:57]
trinque btw I am also undata, likely will use this handle from now on [02:57]
trinque punkman: did you just keep a local count of deedbot's balance? [02:57]
punkman I used electrum [02:57]
trinque ah so you had a wallet handy [02:57]
trinque << sending some tests [02:58]
assbot ... ( ) [02:58]
punkman iirc conformal had a lib for accessing the db, no? [02:59]
punkman [03:00]
assbot btcsuite/btcdb · GitHub ... ( ) [03:00]
mircea_popescu << for nubbins` war effort. [03:00]
assbot ... ( ) [03:00]
mircea_popescu !gettrust undata [03:02]
assbot undata is not registered in WoT. [03:02]
mircea_popescu !gettrust trinque [03:02]
assbot Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user trinque: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 3 via 1 connections. | | [03:02]
mircea_popescu makes sense. [03:02]
trinque #btcd tells me I'll eventually be able to query address balance with just btcd and btcctl... seems like keeping its own count is fine, no? [03:08]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu: missing: the ants. [03:13]
danielpbarron "When I walk into a place and there are women wearing yoga pants everywhere, it's hard to not look. I don't, but it's not easy," Partridge's husband allegedly said. [03:17]
assbot Christian Mom Gives Up Leggings For God ... ( ) [03:17]
trinque mircea_popescu: when the hash of the bundle is not a valid key would you prefer to wait for more deeds, or some other behavior? [03:18]
trinque punkman suggests re-hasing [03:18]
punkman as per asciilifeform's suggestion ^ [03:21]
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mircea_popescu yes rehash [03:27]
trinque k [03:30]
Adlai trinque, mircea_popescu, have you had a look yet at ? (at worst, this would just save some money) [03:31]
assbot Promechard: Proprietary Metablock Chains for Arbitrary Data ... ( ) [03:31]
trinque punkman brings up another good point about the ambiguous ordering of two bundles which end up in the same block [03:31]
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mircea_popescu Adlai im no sure what this is supposed to be ? [04:38]
Adlai how to do deeds efficiently [04:38]
mircea_popescu mno. [04:38]
mircea_popescu it's not how to do deeds efficiently, it's how to include people you don't know. i am not interested. [04:38]
Adlai that's not what it is, maybe you should read the actual paper? [04:39]
mircea_popescu papers of unknown authors chance of being read is ~0%. [04:39]
mircea_popescu especially if said authors are alive. [04:39]
mircea_popescu let them get in the wot. [04:39]
Adlai here's a shorter explanation of the technique: [04:43]
assbot ... ( ) [04:43]
mircea_popescu somehow we're not communicating. at issue is the proposition that ideas are worth anything, and somehow people can ride on the value of their ideas. [04:44]
mircea_popescu this is false. people can only ride on the value of their reputaiton, and "ideas" are not only worthless, but outright meaningless. [04:44]
mircea_popescu i simply don't care what some derps not in the wot think they have to say. [04:45]
Adlai who said anything about people riding? i'm not talking about people, i'm talking solely about the idea. if you want some reputation to associate with the idea, shoot the messenger. [04:45]
mircea_popescu i am not. [04:46]
mircea_popescu i am never talking about any idea. [04:46]
mircea_popescu unless it starts with "here's what X said", im ignoring it. [04:46]
mircea_popescu unsigned code doesn't exist. "ideas" never happened. etc. [04:47]
mircea_popescu i guess i should add "culture" to the list of things bitcoin is disrupting. [04:48]
* Adlai says, deedbot can spend half as much coin and create zero as much pollution; if there's interest, he can review and sign the code doing it [04:48]
mircea_popescu brb [04:48]
mircea_popescu Adlai how much it spends is arbitrarily small anyway, and set to a certain sum more to encourage the diggers than anything tho ? [04:48]
Adlai the promechard technique can still have any fee you like, and it'd go directly to the miners, rather than into an unspendable output [04:49]
mircea_popescu the output is spendable. [04:49]
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Adlai hash(clearsigned gpg message) is spendable? [04:50]
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mircea_popescu it keeps hashing until it makes a valid pubkey yes [04:51]
Adlai to which it has the privkey? [04:51]
mircea_popescu that's the whole idea, anyone can spend the sum on the basis of the notarized documents. [04:51]
Adlai hm. why? [04:53]
mircea_popescu doubles as a faucet, basically. [04:54]
Adlai so it's spendable (by the earliest bird!), but it's still a tiny amount. this is like leaving a beggar individual pennies, more insulting than anything else [04:54]
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mircea_popescu !up blah [04:55]
-assbot- You voiced blah for 30 minutes. [04:55]
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mircea_popescu i dun follow. [04:55]
Adlai lol alright, if that's the intent, it makes sense [04:55]
fluffypony this guy was basically mircea_popescu - [04:56]
assbot ... ( ) [04:56]
mircea_popescu lol [04:56]
mircea_popescu fluffypony i just spent today listening to "i did it my way" and thinking frankie was basically me. [04:56]
mircea_popescu oddly enough, mailer looks like sinatra! [04:57]
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fluffypony [05:26]
assbot I will be going to Africa this summer to introduce bitcoin to airline services, hotel services and much much more! I will also be hosting a blog soon so I can update on the progress made! Hey who knows I might start an african bitcoin foundation while I am there : Bitcoin ... ( ) [05:26]
fluffypony fucking retard. [05:26]
Adlai maybe he'll reach some of the 419 scammers, that would give free marketing, like cryptolocker et al [05:30]
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punkman ;;ticker [06:10]
gribble Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 302.62, Best ask: 304.41, Bid-ask spread: 1.79000, Last trade: 302.62, 24 hour volume: 48938.56740845, 24 hour low: 241.33, 24 hour high: 309.9, 24 hour vwap: 266.093376488 [06:10]
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fluffypony [06:34]
assbot gloomdoom comments on Poverty Inc. argues that Wall Street and the banking industry’s portrayal of "business as usual" is undermining our democracy, shattering the lives of working class families and the poor, while endangering the very environmental balance of the planet. ... ( ) [06:34]
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davout <<< yes please [06:46]
assbot Logged on 26-01-2015 03:06:29; thestringpuller: gabriel_laddel: A copy of SimCity 2000 built in. [06:46]
davout <<< yes please [06:46]
assbot Logged on 26-01-2015 04:02:39; mircea_popescu: someone should make a gavin retardobot [06:46]
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davout <<< you merely need the unspent outs [06:47]
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mircea_popescu Adlai : updated nao [08:07]
assbot Ok, so what is Bitcoin disrupting ? pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [08:07]
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mircea_popescu << lulzy butthurt. [08:12]
assbot How Luke Evans came in Romania and the Romanian press wasn't invited | Edge and Back ... ( ) [08:12]
Adlai if it wasn't clear, by means "act as though the first wot member who suggests an idea invented it" [08:13]
assbot Logged on 26-01-2015 07:42:06; Adlai: who said anything about people riding? i'm not talking about people, i'm talking solely about the idea. if you want some reputation to associate with the idea, shoot the messenger. [08:13]
mircea_popescu prolly the way it'll work. [08:15]
Adlai i wasn't bringing this up as "look at coinbase, they're doing something!", but as "maybe i can help your thing do its stuff better" (setting aside the bit about deedbot doubling as a faucet, which works fine in the current method) [08:15]
mircea_popescu yeh, i got that. [08:16]
Adlai either way, i really oughtta spend my time chasing floats instead of ec points [08:17]
mircea_popescu what's ec points ? [08:17]
Adlai elliptic curve points [08:18]
Adlai ie, working on scalpl rather than studying crypto curiosities [08:18]
mircea_popescu ah. well honestly, on the face of it, that sounded backwards. [08:19]
Adlai how so? [08:19]
mircea_popescu like... srsly, floats rather than elliptic curve points ?! [08:19]
mircea_popescu "i should spend my time finding grass rather than fish". [08:20]
Adlai yeah it doesn't make much sense because it's a stupid pursuit, i'm hunting out floating point arithmetic now that scalpl needs to quack a little less like a prototype [08:20]
mircea_popescu anyway. scalpl made a killing on the rise ? or got kinda murdered ? [08:20]
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mircea_popescu [08:21]
assbot ... ( ) [08:21]
Adlai it never makes killings or gets kinda murdered, it just creeps along. sometimes it bleeds a little from the ears when the volume gets too loud. [08:22]
* Adlai is listening to: Metallica - The Call Of Ktulu (8:54) [08:22]
Adlai re IV - art is neither dead nor dying, but tastes change, and the financial incentives about them... maybe if it becomes less profitable overall, there'll be less crap commercialized art such as pop music or koons balloons [08:24]
mircea_popescu there's nothing to do with "tastes" [08:29]
mircea_popescu art is purely prescriptive. [08:29]
Adlai the eradication of a disease doesn't signal the end of medicine, just a change of "tastes". same for art's prescriptions [08:32]
Adlai the nice thing about firing clients is that you get to work for yourself! [08:35]
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jurov ele [10:47]
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mircea_popescu [10:50]
assbot Obama administration intervened in Argentine probe of Iranian leader, Jewish center bombing - World Tribune | World Tribune [10:50]
mircea_popescu theplot that keeps on thickening. [10:50]
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Adlai so in the pre-bitcoin economy, entrepeneurs sought financiers. what do you call a well-capitalized wot presence that lends its credibility to a bitcoin venture? [10:58]
mircea_popescu i would guess a financier, what's wrong with that ? [11:01]
Adlai nothing, just wondering what you'd call them in this economy [11:01]
* Adlai seeks a wot financier. inquiries welcome in private or public, whichever is preferred. [11:02]
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Adlai rise, chicken! you may lay another egg yet. [11:02]
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mircea_popescu lol [11:03]
mircea_popescu later! [11:03]
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BingoBoingo Things reddit dun like [17:22]
assbot This is the true thought leader of Bitcoin : Bitcoin ... ( ) [17:22]
BingoBoingo Facebook, for the still Poorer [17:25]
assbot Facebook: Android users in developing countries can now use "Facebook Lite" as a simplified version of the social media networking app. ... ( ) [17:25]
mircea_popescu BingoBoingo lol thanks. [17:29]
mircea_popescu "Bitcoin's thought-leader hangs out with people who pay underage girls for sex?" wut exactly is this ? i don't hang out with reddit... [17:30]
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davout i already love this reddit thread [17:30]
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mircea_popescu davout: Adlai: so ppl deposit funds with you, you put them on some exchange (or people push funds to your exchange account) and whatever p/l scalpl makes is distributed among them, minus your fee? << this sounds to me more like a classical fund [17:31]
mircea_popescu scalpl's irrelevant in this discussion, people don't care about it, people just care "i'm investing with adlai and he keeps the thing going" [17:31]
mircea_popescu much like panacea used to work, at least back when f.mpif had an investment. [17:32]
jurov << same, not so lulzy tho [17:32]
mircea_popescu anyway, how much capital are you looking for ? [17:32]
assbot Ok, so what is Bitcoin disrupting? : Buttcoin ... ( ) [17:32]
mircea_popescu "I'm certain he has no actual experience with that topic, unless you count webcam sessions with the working ladies over at girls gone bitcoin." [17:32]
mircea_popescu dude, srsly ? [17:32]
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mircea_popescu somebody drop the classic on r/buttcoin, see how they talk it away ? [17:33]
assbot NSFW - Mosu' cu joarda pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [17:33]
mircea_popescu !up sensorii [17:35]
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mircea_popescu anyway, it's kinda fun to wake up at 7pm to a bowlful of internet impotent rage. [17:37]
* mircea_popescu pours some milk, adds some cornflakes, eats it up, spits it out... [17:37]
mircea_popescu ...aaaaand dooooesss it hiiiiiiissss waaaaayyyy [17:37]
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davout poor winklevii, they got cock-blocked so hard by the coinbase guys [17:46]
mircea_popescu lol saw that ? [17:46]
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davout forever alone winklevii [17:49]
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mircea_popescu lol kinda, yeah. [17:50]
mircea_popescu they're suffering from fat rich kid syndrome. [17:50]
davout what's the fat rich kid syndrome? [17:51]
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trinque their only real claim to fame being "we sued hoodie CEO" [17:55]
trinque the guy who almost had a heart attack talking to Walt Mossberg [17:56]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: has no experience in fucking, although he keeps a harem. [17:59]
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davout hanbot: i agree, the rectangles have merely made shy people more visible where shyness doesn't actually matter [18:05]
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mircea_popescu davout rich kid is ahead of the other kids, because his parents are technically a magic wand. fat kid is behind the other kids, because fat is unappealing. this tension creates very insane sort of behaviours. [18:21]
davout hah [18:21]
mircea_popescu generally it ends up twisted in the position where the other kids drive the wedge of forcing him to do things his magic wand disapproves of. [18:21]
mircea_popescu course the more perceptive magic wands try to do the exact same. [18:22]
mircea_popescu but in any case, nature abhors a tension, and it will be resolved. [18:22]
mircea_popescu thestringpuller obviously. because the god of reddit hath so ordained that everything that can exist is directly accessible with no effort to anyone, and so... three second's effort is good enuf to form any opinion! [18:23]
mircea_popescu trinque for a minute there i thought hoodie is an actual vc "company" [18:25]
mircea_popescu btw mossberg got axed iirc ? he still around ? [18:27]
mircea_popescu in any event : [18:28]
assbot ... ( ) [18:28]
trinque mircea_popescu: I'm sure there's some shartup out there going by Hoodie [18:29]
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mircea_popescu Hoodie enables you to express yourself through technology by making web app development very fast, easy and accessible. It's a complete backend for your ... [18:30]
trinque dunno what mossberg's doing now; the event I'm recalling is... All Things Digital maybe? Zuck nearly had a panic attack responding to softball questions. [18:30]
mircea_popescu and right you are. [18:30]
* trinque shakes his head [18:30]
trinque this industry... burn it to the ground [18:30]
mircea_popescu working on it. [18:31]
mircea_popescu but meanwhile, [18:31]
assbot ... ( ) [18:31]
trinque dem curves! [18:33]
davout mircea_popescu trinque "hoodie is a committed team dedicated to hand-making gorgeous organic sweat shirts, delivered right to your door by our awesome fixie riders" [18:34]
mircea_popescu wait two of em ?! [18:34]
mircea_popescu [18:34]
assbot ... ( ) [18:34]
davout lol no i just made that up [18:35]
mircea_popescu i love how "awesome" has come to mean "i think we're not paying these dudes enough". originally teh various journalist herdsmen thought they were being oh so clever [18:35]
mircea_popescu but twenty years later sheer usage has worked the surfaces of the thing into the exact shape of its meaning. [18:36]
mircea_popescu wisdom of the crowds, this is exactly what it means. [18:36]
mircea_popescu !up CoraCrisT [18:39]
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CoraCrisT thanks, M. [18:39]
CoraCrisT hey guys [18:40]
mircea_popescu sure. get in the wot already, you'll regret each wasted day in a few years. [18:40]
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mircea_popescu davout: one week later, scalpl made 7% profit <<< best rng ever :D [18:44]
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thestringpuller hanbot: this reminds me of my college where guise didn't know anything about this socializing thing. [18:46]
thestringpuller hanbot: "Lets be nice as possible to the girl and maybe she'll touch me even though I'm an awkward neck beard who needs more rejection" [18:47]
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pete_dushenski howdy assets! [18:52]
mircea_popescu ello [18:52]
pete_dushenski how's that air in ba today? [18:53]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29100 @ 0.00049559 = 14.4217 BTC [-] {2} [18:54]
mircea_popescu pretty sweet. [18:54]
assbot ... ( ) [18:55]
pete_dushenski it's really not bad here either, all things considered. [18:55]
pete_dushenski i'll take 0C in january [18:56]
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pete_dushenski The chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff has established a research and essay competition in honor of Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah Bin Abdul-Aziz hosted by the National Defense University. [19:07]
pete_dushenski no word on how big the purse is [19:08]
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mircea_popescu Adlai: in case it fell between the cracks - i'm always interested in 'alpha testers', especially if they see it as a service rather than a freebie that a sucker on irc will walk them through for his own warm fuzzies << heh the problem of "contests" and "giveaways" etc. [19:12]
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pete_dushenski manual scoop: [19:14]
mircea_popescu mats: former-head-gchq-warns-ethically-worse-kinds-spying-if-unbreakable-encryption-is-allowed << asswipes in temper tantrum mode. "if we don't get chocolate we will piss in the bet" [19:14]
assbot Even North Korea knows that public relations isn’t about being nice anymore. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( ) [19:14]
mircea_popescu somehow the obvious "bitch, if you piss in the bed you will be digging ditches naked 18 hours a day for the next five years." isn't quite obvious to gchq angry children. [19:14]
pete_dushenski and of course "ethical" is whatever benefits my narrow range of interests [19:15]
pete_dushenski because i'm the pre-copernican church [19:16]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45000 @ 0.00051104 = 22.9968 BTC [+] {2} [19:19]
davout !rated itkin [19:20]
assbot itkin is not registered in WoT. [19:20]
davout ;;rated itkin [19:20]
gribble You have not yet rated user itkin [19:20]
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TheNewDeal ;;ident [19:21]
gribble Nick 'TheNewDeal', with hostmask 'TheNewDeal!~TheNewDea@unaffiliated/thenewdeal', is identified as user 'TheNewDeal', with GPG key id DFBEC17DF96DFB77, key fingerprint 468950118F292A0AA73BCCC3DFBEC17DF96DFB77, and bitcoin address None [19:21]
TheNewDeal ;;nethash [19:22]
gribble 272295812.481 [19:22]
TheNewDeal ;;bc,stats [19:22]
gribble Current Blocks: 340603 | Current Difficulty: 4.397166205608958E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 340703 | Next Difficulty In: 100 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 18 hours, 53 minutes, and 51 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 41248798297.7 | Estimated Percent Change: -6.19231 [19:22]
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mircea_popescu dropping again huh [19:26]
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pete_dushenski looking that way. [19:27]
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pete_dushenski that exahash is taking forever [19:27]
pete_dushenski i want it nao! [19:28]
pete_dushenski Uber promises not to price-gouge during massive east-coast blizzard << because what are prices good for anyways ? [19:30]
mircea_popescu "uber promises to make the market not work" [19:33]
mircea_popescu tell you what : if there's fifty people willingm to pay 1 dollar and five people willing to pay 10 dollars, and 5 cabs, [19:33]
mircea_popescu the cabs should fucking cost 10 dollar. [19:33]
pete_dushenski and if there's one cab, $100 [19:33]
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pete_dushenski this is how you get "everyone should have meat with every meal" turning agriculture into a 'meat' production industry [19:34]
pete_dushenski !up phillipsjk [19:35]
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pete_dushenski heya phillipsjk, who are you? [19:35]
phillipsjk Have people been experiencing DDOS attacks? I have the sketchiest data, but suspect 1.2Gbps on saturday and larger today [19:36]
pete_dushenski there were a few "ddosbot" attacks over the weekend, ya [19:36]
phillipsjk Hi, I am James Phillips, dishwasher from Canada. [19:36]
pete_dushenski welcome [19:36]
phillipsjk I am not even running a bitcoin node. (only Friecoin) on this connection. [19:37]
phillipsjk I wonder if just joining this channel gets me on the hit-list. [19:37]
pete_dushenski if it did, you'd know already [19:37]
pete_dushenski i was hit within 30 seconds of logging on sans cloak [19:38]
pete_dushenski downed my internet for 30 minutes or so [19:38]
mircea_popescu phillipsjk told you the same in pm lol, did you get that ? [19:38]
pete_dushenski no ? [19:38]
phillipsjk he uped me [19:38]
pete_dushenski phillipsjk: so what intel do you have about these attacks? [19:39]
phillipsjk I am considering hooking up a packet sniffer nextime it happens. [19:40]
thestringpuller downed my internet for 30 minutes or so << yea that happened to me during netsplit was pretty bad [19:40]
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pete_dushenski phillipsjk: you're on shawcable, so whereabouts in alberta are you? [19:42]
phillipsjk Router complained about "smurf attacks" (from china) but worry those may be false positives since the IPs were from /16 netblock and eneded in .255: [19:43]
phillipsjk Edmonton [19:44]
pete_dushenski cool. so am i actually. [19:45]
pete_dushenski how'd you find this place? [19:45]
mircea_popescu so wait, you're not being ddosed now ? [19:45]
phillipsjk Was told that the Future of Bitcoin is decided here, not in the Bitcointalk forums. [19:46]
mircea_popescu what, the kid just spikes a few kps for five minutes and then that's it, givwesu p ? [19:46]
mircea_popescu phillipsjk that part is true. [19:46]
phillipsjk mircea_popescu, it was about 30 minutes each time. at least 3 times. [19:46]
mircea_popescu but not anymore now / [19:46]
mircea_popescu ? [19:46]
pete_dushenski mircea_popescu: not like ddosbot kid has infinity resources. has to end eventually [19:46]
mircea_popescu anyway phillipsjk best practice would be to get a cloak. [19:47]
thestringpuller or connect from tor [19:47]
thestringpuller lol [19:47]
phillipsjk So you think it is jsut from joining this channel then? [19:47]
pete_dushenski i experienced the same 30 min ddos thing while fiddling with new irc clients [19:47]
pete_dushenski phillipsjk: almost certainly [19:47]
thestringpuller whenever my ip gets exposed i get hammered [19:47]
mircea_popescu phillipsjk definitely. [19:48]
mircea_popescu !s ddos [19:48]
assbot 455 results for 'ddos' : [19:48]
pete_dushenski it's an unintentional barrier to entry, if anything [19:48]
mircea_popescu ^ look through there, it's discussed plenty [19:48]
davout phillipsjk: yes, people get ddosed from joining uncloaked [19:48]
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pete_dushenski California threatens to seize land from billionaire if he doesn’t start letting surfers use his beach << for the people! [19:50]
thestringpuller pete_dushenski: the last ddos knocked out my phones too [19:50]
thestringpuller my house phone couldn't dial out lol [19:50]
pete_dushenski The State Lands Commission may use powers never employed in its 77-year history, seizing private land for public use to end a battle between surfers and billionaire venture-capital investor Vinod Khosla, who has been locking a gate at his beach property along California’s Pacific Coast. [19:50]
pete_dushenski thestringpuller: crazy [19:50]
thestringpuller script kiddie may not have infinite resources [19:51]
thestringpuller but can definitely fuck up my couch when he knows my address [19:51]
danielpbarron phillipsjk> Was told that the Future of Bitcoin is decided here, not in the Bitcointalk forums. << oh that's where i've seen your name! [19:51]
assbot Fork off ... ( ) [19:51]
[]bot Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $150 before March" Odds: 19(Y):81(N) by coin, 23(Y):77(N) by weight. Total bet: 5.61929562 BTC. Current weight: 68,439. [19:51]
[]bot Bet placed: 2 BTC for No on "Bitcoin to drop under $100 before April" Odds: 18(Y):82(N) by coin, 19(Y):81(N) by weight. Total bet: 6.87303349 BTC. Current weight: 85,030. [19:51]
phillipsjk By 'we' I meant the reddit and Bitcointalk 'tards of course. [19:53]
pete_dushenski danielpbarron: ah, good eye [19:53]
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phillipsjk I may have confused MP with somebody else in that post. (MP is apparently not a coder) [19:54]
pete_dushenski phillipsjk: lol now you have me curious where you wash dishes. i can always go for a good meal on clean dinnerware [19:55]
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[]bot Bet placed: 1.5 BTC for No on "Light Sweet Crude Oil (WTI) to drop under $40 before Mar 2015" Odds: 35(Y):65(N) by coin, 40(Y):60(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.35433047 BTC. Current weight: 51,859. [19:55]
pete_dushenski mp is definitely more beeznizmayn than codermonkey [19:56]
phillipsjk It is in my resume: Coliseum Pizza & Steak LTD. [19:57]
pete_dushenski a, famous spot, that [19:57]
pete_dushenski can't say i've been [19:57]
phillipsjk Need a day-job to keep hosting a Bitcoin node though. [19:58]
pete_dushenski that's pretty normal, really [20:01]
danielpbarron too expensive to run a full node? aren't you one of the ones trying to make the blocks bigger? [20:01]
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pete_dushenski zing! [20:01]
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phillipsjk If I us web-hosting I get 5TB/month for $80 or so [20:02]
phillipsjk I was paying $109.10 for commercial access. (300GB cap) [20:03]
TheNewDeal I am just imaginging advertisements on the TV, similar to those during political season in usia, with some phony from the Bitcoin Foundation and a sign "10gb blocks in 2016" [20:04]
pete_dushenski "yes we can" [20:05]
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pete_dushenski anyways gang, i'm off. don't wear out those keyboards while i'm gone! [20:07]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45500 @ 0.00052732 = 23.9931 BTC [+] {2} [20:10]
danielpbarron << guy gets 5 BTC for basically saying "did you try restarting it?" also, guy cries over getting 5 BTC [20:19]
assbot Introshine comments on HELP ! Lost wallet data, 5BTC reward ... ( ) [20:19]
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thestringpuller "Don't you know? Human beings become omniscient, infallible gods the moment they begin accepting a paycheck from the state." [20:21]
thestringpuller ^- that guy gets it [20:22]
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mircea_popescu California threatens to seize land from billionaire if he doesn’t start letting surfers use his beach << for the people! << soooooo ... why would someone own anything in california ? [20:24]
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mircea_popescu "There are those whose only concern is worshiping at the altar of money and turning a profit, whereas others see Bitcoin as a tool for social and political revolution." [20:27]
mircea_popescu lmao [20:27]
mircea_popescu libertard has cut up the pie! [20:27]
mircea_popescu "social and political revolution" = more of the same shit ; "worshipping at the altar of money" = actual social and political revolution. in the proper sense, as in, the opposite of evolution. [20:27]
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mircea_popescu danielpbarron funny hpw that doomad dude neglects to consider the point that "we can all use it" AS IT IS. unless we ALL agree to use it a different way, it is NOT HAPPENING. [20:28]
mircea_popescu irrespective of what "sociopolitical ideals" he miught wish to force on others. [20:29]
mircea_popescu the stuff one finds in the logs i swear. [20:29]
mircea_popescu "Your statement that the new fork won't succeed is nothing but speculation, your guess is only worth as much as anyone else's. No one can claim with any certainty that they know what's going to happen." << late to that party. [20:30]
mircea_popescu my "buy gavincoin at 25% off still got exactly 0 offers" [20:30]
lobbes phillipsjk: Need a day-job to keep hosting a Bitcoin node though << try out I'm planning on following the advice given here and start a node running some version of debian [20:30]
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lobbes phillipsjk: should only be a few bucks a month [20:31]
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PeterL mircea_popescu: what happens with your 25% offer if they never stick megablocks into bitcoin-core code? [20:33]
danielpbarron the people with all the bitcoin are the bad ones because money is evil, and the people with no bitcoin are going to tell them what the rules should be [20:33]
mircea_popescu PeterL it'll have to be discussed, obv. whoever wants to trade gets to work with me on a ocntract that covers all legitimate concerns. [20:34]
mircea_popescu danielpbarron "because you are in the minority" derp. [20:34]
mircea_popescu but yes, that is pretty much exactly what your average libertard thinks politics is : "people with no money telling the people with money how they may proceed" [20:34]
mircea_popescu exactly fucking opposite of sanity. [20:34]
danielpbarron and somehow one of them manages to keep 500 BTC this whole time; someone who thought his funds were gone because his blockchain needed rensynching [20:35]
mircea_popescu anyway, it's funny just how self-contradictory the guy is, and how carefully crafted his pile, and how incredibly unstable in spite of all that effort. reading his lengthy posts is sort-of like admiring someone who managed to build a half mile tall chair pile in his quest to get to the moon on chairs. [20:35]
mircea_popescu if you as much as sneeze it all comes crumbling down, and yet he's stupidly put all that effort into it... like a blind seal or something. [20:36]
assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30650 @ 0.00051835 = 15.8874 BTC [-] {2} [20:36]
mircea_popescu but who knows, right ? it's "not decided yet". he's not come here to have his construction taken apart ; the fork's not actually been destroyed in the field, and "we don't know for sure it's a scam" etc. [20:37]
mircea_popescu in unrelated news : some guy named zyklon_b joins some chatroom, buncha derps throw a fit, i tell em to stfu, which results in private messaging and ragequits : [20:38]
mircea_popescu its possible but there is such a thing as responsibility, and i feel its mine to point out that Zyklon B is highly offensive and brings this place into disrepute [20:38]
mircea_popescu and i feel it's mine to point out to you that you're the [unthinking] representative of everything that's wrong with the world generally, and United Stupid particularly. [20:38]
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mircea_popescu [20:42]
assbot White House going nuclear on Netanyahu | New York Post ... ( ) [20:42]
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nubbins` lel x5, one of woodcollector's alts "doxxed" me [20:52]
nubbins` sends me this serious PM with some google streetview of my neighbourhood and my name+address [20:53]
nubbins` couple pix from my fb [20:53]
mircea_popescu o hey, are you going off nubbins` to your pw:rn nao ? [20:53]
nubbins` wat [20:54]
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asciilifeform lol, 'doxing' [20:54]
mircea_popescu ;;google pw:rn [20:54]
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gribble Bounty Hunter Cards - Dark Age: ; Followers of the Heretic Cards - Dark Age: ; Kukulkani Cards - Dark Age: [20:54]
mircea_popescu wow. [20:54]
nubbins` rn=real name? [20:54]
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mircea_popescu yeh [20:54]
mircea_popescu [20:54]
assbot Powerword - Encyclopedia Dramatica ... ( ) [20:54]
asciilifeform !s true names [20:55]
assbot 17 results for 'true names' : [20:55]
mircea_popescu dude ed went to shit. [20:55]
nubbins` o i get it [20:55]
nubbins` well anyway. [20:55]
nubbins` my home address was already public on the forum [20:56]
nubbins` and he got the phone number wrong ;/ [20:56]
mircea_popescu so he could work for yellowpages [20:56]
nubbins` and he says "maybe i'll see you at tomorrow at 8pm... i'm only 80km away" [20:56]
mircea_popescu wear a gopro. [20:56]
davout nubbins`: you better call the bitcoin police [20:57]
mircea_popescu davout if memory serves nubbins` is this tall bear-y sorta guy [20:57]
asciilifeform nubbins`: prepare for laser duel. [20:57]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform ahahaha that took a minute [20:58]
nubbins` heh [20:58]
davout asciilifeform: i just got it [20:58]
mircea_popescu hey nubbins` did you handcarve the turkey last thskgiving ? [20:58]
mircea_popescu OR DID YOU USE A LASER [20:58]
nubbins` hilariously, you are literally either in the ocean or a vast, uninhabited wilderness reserve if you are 80km from me [20:58]
nubbins` mircea_popescu i silkscreened cranberry sauce onto thin slices of it [20:59]
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mircea_popescu the advantage of silk sheets is you can silkscreen tits and stuff with your bare hands. [20:59]
mircea_popescu !up badon [21:00]
-assbot- You voiced badon for 30 minutes. [21:00]
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nubbins` with the proper mesh count anything is possible [21:00]
mircea_popescu mush cunt! [21:00]
assbot ... ( ) [21:00]
badon hi mircea_popescu [21:01]
nubbins` oddly, i haven't received any more PMs since casually mentioning WC's actual job in a post [21:04]
nubbins` probably a coincidence [21:04]
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thestringpuller dude [21:06]
thestringpuller expression engine is a fucking joke [21:06]
thestringpuller i can't do this anymore [21:06]
thestringpuller i'm about to blow my brains out man [21:06]
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thestringpuller i'll never joke about wordpress again [21:06]
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thestringpuller :q [21:14]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, et al: i have a working 'u-boot' for toy node (builds as CROSSDEV armv5 on x86 gentoo), working linux kernel built in same manner, boots from nand flash. [21:20]
nubbins` fun [21:20]
nubbins` 5/5 would help design packaging for [21:20]
thestringpuller :q [21:21]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, et al: how it is to work: machine boots from nand flash, walks attached mass storage device list, tests if any contains ext3 filesystem with blockchain therein. if found, used. if not found, device is formatted and bitcoind runs there. runs inside a loop, if oomkilled - resurrected. [21:23]
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trinque asciilifeform: nice! [21:25]
asciilifeform mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, et al: missing ingredient - armv5 build of bitcoind 0.5.3 with necessary patches - that is, 100% therealbitcoin-controlled seeds. [21:26]
mircea_popescu hey badon [21:26]
badon hey [21:26]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform splendid. [21:27]
mircea_popescu mod6 ye hear that ? :D [21:27]
mircea_popescu !up mod6 [21:27]
-assbot- You voiced mod6 without time-limit. [21:27]
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asciilifeform also discovered that pogo-4 has a 32kB eeprom full of zeros, unused. [21:28]
mircea_popescu what a nice little gewm this thing turns out to be [21:28]
mod6 ah. [21:28]
asciilifeform purchased a second pogo-4 for testing autodeflorator [21:28]
mod6 was i unvoiced? [21:28]
asciilifeform (script for converting a brand-new unit into a weaponized one) [21:28]
mod6 thats awesome. [21:29]
asciilifeform repopulated missing solder pads for rs232 console. very handy for kernel work. i suggest that any of you who purchased a unit, do the same. [21:29]
mod6 i'll have to pick one up when I get a chance... [21:29]
mircea_popescu mod6 yeh just as soon as bitcoind-unbraindamaged is ready... in it goes! [21:29]
mod6 :D [21:30]
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asciilifeform << where to put [21:30]
assbot ... ( ) [21:30]
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asciilifeform also needed is a small list of ntp servers that can be trusted to work reasonably often [21:32]
asciilifeform preferably including one or two controlled by wot folks [21:32]
asciilifeform (if not all) [21:33]
mod6 that shouldn't be a huge problem. bbiab -- we can talk about that part a bit more. [21:33]
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asciilifeform it turns out that ntp can happen straight from u-boot (bootloader) [21:34]
asciilifeform and then ntp client can be omitted from the rootfs itself. [21:34]
asciilifeform (why ever run it more than once? leap seconds?) [21:34]
trinque I've found ntpd to be a pain on such devices; I just cron a call to rdate instead [21:35]
asciilifeform 'u-boot' has equivalent built in. [21:35]
trinque ntpd can apparently be told to always update, never give up when skew is huge, but *shrug* never worked for me [21:35]
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phillipsjk running NTP more than once lets you compute clock drift. [21:36]
asciilifeform aha. [21:36]
asciilifeform box boots in ~10 sec. [21:36]
asciilifeform so i'm not averse to simply having it reboot weekly or so [21:36]
asciilifeform (automatic) [21:36]
asciilifeform bitcoind will get oomkilled often enough as it is. [21:37]
asciilifeform (until somebody plugs the leaks) [21:37]
BingoBoingo (why ever run it more than once? leap seconds?) << One of those coming up soon [21:39]
phillipsjk I suggest for NTP servers that work reasonably often. [21:40]
asciilifeform phillipsjk: we'd like some that are not under nato control. [21:40]
BingoBoingo [21:42]
assbot OpenNTPD ... ( ) [21:42]
phillipsjk Bitcoin tolerates time-stamps off by an hour anyway since a certain popular OS did not support hardware UTC until recently. [21:42]
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trinque asciilifeform: ah I glossed over "why more than once" [21:44]
trinque in my experience the rpi skews clock as some function of cpu load [21:44]
trinque shit you not [21:44]
asciilifeform rpi is a steaming pile of shit. [21:44]
trinque that it is. [21:44]
asciilifeform in two dozen different ways. [21:44]
asciilifeform 'but it's cheap1111!!!!11!! d3m0cr4cy!!!11111111111' [21:45]
asciilifeform 'pogo' - costs less than half of rpi, incidentally. [21:45]
asciilifeform and doesn't have dedicated cores running weird, evil closed-sourced blob at all times. or a defective i/o bridge. [21:46]
asciilifeform and ships in a (spartan) plastic chassis, and with power brick. [21:46]
phillipsjk Cheap is my Pentium-II-350 still in service. (also with 256MB or RAM) [21:46]
asciilifeform phillipsjk: neither fanless, nor pocket-sized, nor still in production. [21:46]
asciilifeform phillipsjk: original thread concerned experiments with machines that will run bitcoind that fit these characteristics. [21:47]
asciilifeform at minimal cost. [21:47]
phillipsjk yeah, had to move it yesterday. revised the weight estimate up from 50lbs to 60lbs to 70lbs. [21:47]
asciilifeform a machine containing a fan, even one, esp. a plastic chinese fan, cannot be called 'fire and forget' [21:48]
phillipsjk I recommend 2GB or RAM for running a node. sounds like you are trying to get that number down. [21:49]
asciilifeform 128m. [21:49]
BingoBoingo phillipsjk: neither fanless, nor pocket-sized, nor still in production. << The trifecta of want [21:50]
phillipsjk Hmm Freicoin is apparently using only like 36MB of RAM at the moment. [21:51]
asciilifeform fanless and elephant-sized would suffice in a pinch [21:51]
asciilifeform but these, afaik, do not exist either [21:51]
phillipsjk Should be possible then. [21:51]
asciilifeform iirc mircea_popescu wants to hand these out at parties. [21:51]
asciilifeform so must be reasonably low-cost. [21:51]
asciilifeform and something a civilian could plug in, somewhere in his cellar, and forget about it. [21:52]
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asciilifeform incidentally, there is an output device: bicolour led. [21:52]
asciilifeform i'm having it turn red once the drive fills. [21:53]
asciilifeform or if cannot reach the net. [21:53]
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assbot [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12700 @ 0.00050211 = 6.3768 BTC [-] [22:20]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes et al: consider mutilating the version string. perhaps 'Serenissima 1.5.3.x' ? [22:25]
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asciilifeform ben_vulpes et al: this has more than merely ceremonial effect, as, iirc, there are phoundation nodes that won't talk to < 0.8 [22:26]
asciilifeform why make it easy for the bastards. [22:27]
mircea_popescu making what easy ? [22:38]
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asciilifeform mircea_popescu: splitting the net [22:38]
mircea_popescu bitcoin is bitcoin. no need to give bitcoin a special name just because some derps are derping. [22:39]
asciilifeform call it whatever name, but assigning a version equal to ancient phoundation release is foolish. [22:39]
ben_vulpes asciilifeform: was an actual release? [22:39]
asciilifeform x.1 - not afaik. [22:39]
asciilifeform but existing installations still register it as 'obsolete' [22:39]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform why ? [22:39]
ben_vulpes mkay, well i published a patch that bumps to, don't know if you saw that [22:40]
mircea_popescu unrelatedly, [22:40]
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ben_vulpes mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, et al: missing ingredient - armv5 build of bitcoind 0.5.3 with necessary patches - that is, 100% therealbitcoin-controlled seeds. << pretty neat [22:40]
ben_vulpes mircea_popescu: unstable configuration? [22:41]
ben_vulpes anything interesting in the logs today? [22:41]
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mircea_popescu nothing terribly. [22:44]
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mircea_popescu !up phillipsjk nah, just tradition. [22:45]
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mod6 <+asciilifeform> call it whatever name, but assigning a version equal to ancient phoundation release is foolish. << foolish because of nodes that wont talk with < 0.8, or foolish another reason? i've always detested version numbering because of "marketing" [22:45]
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asciilifeform mod6: version number is actually used in the proggy [22:45]
mod6 so it seems to me, the most logical thing to call this is v0.5.3.1 [22:45]
* phillipsjk was asking about the pics [22:45]
asciilifeform mod6: if we're prepared for the eventuality that only our nodes answer our nodes - then yes. [22:46]
phillipsjk I take it the female population in this channel is low then. [22:46]
mircea_popescu phillipsjk basically sanity split from idiocy in bitcoin on the topic of porn, back in 2012. [22:46]
mircea_popescu see etc [22:46]
assbot The froth of our days pe Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( ) [22:46]
decimation re: ntp server < to do a good job, you really need a dedicated server to host [22:47]
asciilifeform decimation: tricky, this. ntp is quite likely to be the weakest link here. central point of failure. [22:48]
decimation ideally one with a low-jitter clock [22:48]
asciilifeform without ntp, box has literally no notion of what the time is. [22:48]
asciilifeform (there is no battery.) [22:48]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform not so. looks at prev block [22:48]
mircea_popescu box thinks the time is "the previous block's time" [22:48]
decimation heh that's a good ida [22:48]
asciilifeform one more patch then. [22:48]
mircea_popescu it's the only way to do time. [22:48]
decimation it will be within minutes at least [22:48]
asciilifeform block-epoch [22:48]
mircea_popescu all that's needed for this application. [22:48]
asciilifeform may not even need to patch bitcoind [22:49]
asciilifeform but can lift from file system timestamp [22:49]
asciilifeform on blk*** [22:49]
asciilifeform it is then tempting to omit ntp entirely... [22:50]
decimation yeah, you would probably want to average a few blocks & get system time [22:50]
asciilifeform timestamp on fs only works if we had the correct time once [22:50]
ben_vulpes it's the only way to do time. << i've been saying there's no such thing as time for a while now, only the length of the longest chain... [22:50]
asciilifeform so no good for warmup [22:50]
decimation asciilifeform: what stuff needs clock? filesystem timestamps? logging? [22:51]
asciilifeform at any rate, this does not necessarily work [22:51]
asciilifeform it is conceivable that the node is cut off from the net for a spell [22:51]
asciilifeform and then reconnected [22:51]
asciilifeform in fact, this is guaranteed to happen during transport [22:51]
asciilifeform can't use time of last block then [22:51]
decimation why does system need correct time between bootup and say two live observations of blocks? [22:52]
asciilifeform simply to lazily avoid making yet another change to bitcoind. [22:53]
asciilifeform (ideally, what runs on toy node will be quite the same thing as used on normal machines, but built for the embedded cpu) [22:53]
asciilifeform jurov: no worky [22:55]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform> it is then tempting to omit ntp entirely... << i have no idea why it'd have been included. [22:58]
mircea_popescu ben_vulpes never any disagreeement on that score :) [22:58]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform why not ? [22:58]
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mircea_popescu and it DID have the correct time once. comes preloaded with the timestamp of say when we started this discussion. or w/e. [22:59]
BingoBoingo <+asciilifeform> call it whatever name, but assigning a version equal to ancient phoundation release is foolish. << foolish because of nodes that wont talk with < 0.8, or foolish another reason? i've always detested version numbering because of "marketing" << Propper solution is counting down from 9000 [23:00]
mod6 ya, kalvin has been discussed too [23:00]
mod6 i kinda like the notion. [23:00]
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assbot bitcoin/util.cpp at d05c03ab4ed23389b1326f9b7c77a8d7b8d6588d · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( ) [23:01]
* asciilifeform likes kelvin versioning [23:01]
asciilifeform ^ above code will have to be changed to actually set the machine clock ? [23:02]
asciilifeform presently it just spews warnings [23:02]
asciilifeform and node operates using system time [23:02]
mircea_popescu yeh [23:02]
asciilifeform that's what i was speaking of. [23:02]
mircea_popescu can't use time of last block then << that's where i caught [23:03]
BingoBoingo [23:03]
asciilifeform can use time of last block on wire. [23:03]
assbot Argentine president seeks to dissolve spy agency after murky death of state prosecutor - World - Israel News | Haaretz ... ( ) [23:03]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: kirov. [23:03]
asciilifeform BingoBoingo: plain as daylight. [23:03]
asciilifeform dec. 1, 1934. [23:04]
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mircea_popescu asciilifeform guy wasn't some sort of bright young thing [23:05]
asciilifeform not necessary for the analogy. [23:05]
asciilifeform 1) kill inconvenient whoever 2) prattle on about 'dastardly murderers who must be brought to justice' 3) ??? 4) profit [23:05]
mircea_popescu hard to know what exactly happened there. however, there's little doubt this was a ss job. [23:07]
mircea_popescu and VERY inept one at that. [23:07]
asciilifeform 'spy agency' will be abolished and replaced with another, usg-friendly one. [23:07]
mircea_popescu whether the woman was involved or wasn't, the ss should get beheaded and well shook up after this. [23:07]
asciilifeform (not a 'sixth eye' by any means, but something like german bnd) [23:07]
mircea_popescu mno, the current one is us-friendly. [23:07]
asciilifeform perhaps not enough ? [23:07]
mircea_popescu that's the thing, cristina wants to behead them. [23:07]
mircea_popescu nah, too much. [23:07]
mircea_popescu that's the facts of the matter : spy agency is inept (practically) and missaligned (ideally). it has to get gutted. [23:08]
mircea_popescu now, wehther the woman ordered them to do a job knowing they'll bothc it, or [23:08]
mircea_popescu whether some 'enemies' were inept enough to do all this and just land it in her lap, [23:09]
ben_vulpes there were promises of equity but nothing official that i saw (other than verbal) << how does this fly with you people - verbal contracts for a thing with nothing written. when you sign the paper that says "i will work for thus and such" do you not stink the place up for lack of options? [23:09]
mircea_popescu or whatever else, all paths lead to the same spot. [23:09]
thestringpuller asciilifeform: the private spy networks are probably much more frightening compared to say the CIA [23:09]
asciilifeform unfortunate thing is that new spy agencies tend to get made from rubble of the immediate predecessor, and never from whole cloth [23:09]
ben_vulpes i suppose you people also don't ask to see the cap table, and when told "that's privileged" don't turn around and walk out. [23:09]
mircea_popescu asciilifeform that's not even the problem. the problem is that argentina has no school, and so either it uses us educated iditos, or else what, get the russians in ? [23:09]
asciilifeform modern russians work for pay. [23:10]
mircea_popescu everyone works for pay. [23:10]
mircea_popescu until they don't. [23:10]
BingoBoingo contract hanbot? [23:10]
asciilifeform as instructors, being [23:10]
mircea_popescu shit, wikileaks worked for pay. [23:10]
mircea_popescu there's nothing to instruct here. [23:10]
mircea_popescu you can't find five argentines to rob a bank with, let alone do actual work. [23:11]
asciilifeform 'argentina has no school' [23:11]
mike_c ben_vulpes: option grants must be approved by the board. [23:11]
mike_c the company has to do a 409a valuation to set the price [23:11]
mike_c their coming, we promise. [23:11]
mike_c *they're [23:11]
ben_vulpes oh the board doesn't have their shit together with regards to the employee pool? [23:11]
thestringpuller mircea_popescu: d00d, there are 0 ride or die niggas in Argentina? [23:11]
mircea_popescu mike_c ben_vulpes it's a thoroughly broken, dysfunctional and nonsensical model, andja know it. [23:11]
thestringpuller there has to be like 1 [23:12]
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ben_vulpes at least they're serious about not trying to recruit the "best! brightest!" [23:12]
mike_c certainly. just saying, that's how they avoid granting them on day 1 of employment. [23:12]
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mircea_popescu mike_c amusingly enough, it's exactly the same process (dressed in different words) that your average romanian inkeep uses to keep the average romanian wench working under the table. [23:13]
mike_c i believe it. welcome to life under a thumb. [23:13]
mircea_popescu moar like, "welcome to we also use windows, because stupidity doesn't stink, nor hurt." [23:14]
mircea_popescu oh gawd if only stupidity could smell. [23:15]
mike_c it does smell to some. [23:15]
asciilifeform it does. simply not everyone has a nose. [23:15]
mircea_popescu yeah. but that's what i'm saying. [23:15]
mircea_popescu smell, universally, like rotten brains in the sun. [23:15]
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ben_vulpes #btcd tells me I'll eventually be able to query address balance with just btcd and btcctl... seems like keeping its own count is fine, no? << key word - "eventually" [23:15]
TheNewDeal Universe would be too logical if a foul fecal odour were emitted in proportion to the idiocy of a statement emitted by a person [23:17]
thestringpuller TheNewDeal: lol, people have organ that makes them fart when they act like idiots [23:18]
thestringpuller would make a great south park episode [23:18]
trinque ben_vulpes: eventually is also when I'll have a fully synced blockchain [23:19]
ben_vulpes ain't it da truf [23:19]
ben_vulpes [] << this is what happens when even knives are outlawed [23:21]
assbot ... ( ) [23:21]
ben_vulpes you can rob a place with a...stick. [23:21]
ben_vulpes ;;seen mrstickball [23:21]
gribble mrstickball was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 18 weeks, 4 days, 10 hours, 47 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: they are as well, AFAIK [23:21]
ben_vulpes ;;seen the20year [23:21]
gribble the20year was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 23 weeks, 5 days, 5 hours, 24 minutes, and 1 second ago: i hear they're aiming for a 0.5% APY [23:21]
ben_vulpes !t h rent [23:21]
assbot [HAVELOCK:RENT] 1D: 0.00694499 / 0.00699235 / 0.00710000 (449 shares, 3.13956438 BTC), 7D: 0.00670000 / 0.00690819 / 0.00749900 (927 shares, 6.40388833 BTC), 30D: 0.00450005 / 0.0058294 / 0.00950000 (5910 shares, 34.45176729 BTC) [23:21]
asciilifeform who is mrs. tickball ? [23:21]
mike_c brother of 20year [23:21]
ben_vulpes one of the ohians renting squats to derps [23:21]
asciilifeform unlike some of the non-usa folks here, i find it entirely plausible that nobody claimed the free coin. [23:22]
asciilifeform as experiment, go try getting a randomly selected street idiot to take a bitcoin. [23:22]
ben_vulpes as experiment, go try getting a randomly selected semi technically savvy person to take a bitcoin. [23:23]
ben_vulpes webwallets do not count. [23:23]
asciilifeform aha. [23:23]
ben_vulpes everyone who's inclined is in. [23:23]
mats hi cuties [23:23]
ben_vulpes everone zero fucks. and will continue to give zero fucks until usd/btc bubbles up again. [23:24]
ben_vulpes hey mats, how're the massachusets sluts today? [23:24]
mats indoors awaiting the snowpocalypse [23:24]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: i suspect they would even refuse a brick of, e.g., iridium. because it isn't gold, they've never seen it, have no idea of its value nor even whether it's a stable element [23:24]
asciilifeform because slept in second grade [23:24]
mats hell of a grade school [23:25]
asciilifeform ben_vulpes: when 1200 usd/btc, did they take? [23:25]
ben_vulpes some [23:25]
ben_vulpes every bubble's going to bring more into the fold. hurt more when it pops. [23:25]
ben_vulpes not rocket surgery, this. [23:25]
asciilifeform 'took' so they can lose to winblows, or sell at 100. [23:26]
thestringpuller the psychology of the bagholder [23:26]
ben_vulpes and also "take"? nobody was offering. selling, maybe. [23:26]
asciilifeform the psychology of not merely bagholder, but with gigantic hole in the bottom of bag [23:26]
asciilifeform every bubble's going to bring more into the fold << trying to make argument that they weren't 'in', but more like the clingers-on one sees hanging from trams and trolleybuses in the turd works [23:27]
asciilifeform *world [23:27]
asciilifeform say a demented beggar were to print 'stocks' and 'futures' on used toilet paper. for, say, exxon. [23:29]
asciilifeform a set of entirely brainless, thoroughly pickled bums - buys these 'financial instruments' [23:29]
asciilifeform are they thus 'in' the whatever bubble ? [23:30]
asciilifeform fellow using webwalled - is quite like above illustration. [23:30]
asciilifeform *wallet [23:30]
BingoBoingo Соединённые Штаты Пиндоссии [23:31]
asciilifeform aha. [23:31]
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asciilifeform BingoBoingo: bonus points if you track down the etymology of пиндос [23:32]
asciilifeform (hint: nothing, contrary to popular notion, to do with pederasty) [23:32]
ben_vulpes can't say as i get it. either one owns btc or one doesn't. [23:32]
BingoBoingo Πίνδος << The wrong kind of greeks [23:32]
BingoBoingo Working on that vocabulary [23:33]
BingoBoingo Roughly Idiot [23:33]
asciilifeform aha. it caught on, and no one knows (afaik) precisely why. [23:33]
BingoBoingo [23:34]
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mod6 so currently, to set the version we must set this value: [23:34]
assbot bitcoin/serialize.h at v0.5.3 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( ) [23:34]
BingoBoingo The spanish pendejo sounds similar. Not sure if phonetic accident or otherwise. [23:34]
mod6 and im wondering, if we use kalvin, and start at 9000 (it'll result in v0.0.90-beta) how we can ensure that other nodes won't think we're on < 0.8 [23:35]
asciilifeform mod6: add zeros as needed. [23:36]
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BingoBoingo << Sounds like a not impossibru explanation [23:41]
assbot Пиндос — Википедия ... ( ) [23:41]
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BingoBoingo More on the Pindo that called for Linux to quit Linus [23:44]
assbot 'Yes, I was a racist' admits Shanley Kane - Breitbart ... ( ) [23:44]
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mod6 so my point here is, without a bigger overhaul to the versioning system; one would have to set 90000 to be v0.9.0, or 9000000 to be 9.0.0, but then what? because we should be counting down. and at some point, we'll cross the threshold of < 0.8 [23:44]
mod6 (900000 = v0.90.0) [23:45]
mod6 so... :/ [23:45]
mod6 overhaul required. [23:45]
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mod6 anyway, i like the kalvin thing. but that'll have to be something to think about later. [23:46]
BingoBoingo What about count down from maxint [23:47]
mircea_popescu mod6 a) lord kelvin! there's no kalvin. an' b) just forget about this entire vanity version thing, why do you want to hardfork the versions now ?! [23:48]
mircea_popescu let em be, it's 0.5.3 it's 0.5.3 what of it [23:49]
mod6 i was pretty set on v0.5.3.1 until ascii tells us that we might not be able to be talk to anything < 0.8 -- which to me seems weird.. because i've fully syncd a dozen times, and done send/receive np [23:51]
mod6 err > 0.8 [23:51]
mircea_popescu that's nonsense. [23:51]
mod6 we're getting close to wrapping up a first cut of this thing. so i want to nail down any changes before we get start to roll one. [23:52]
mod6 any *last minute* requirements [23:52]
mircea_popescu anyone's more than welcome to run their own blocklists, which some people do. but the entire network's built on the premise that you can'trealy isolate nodes. [23:52]
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mircea_popescu everone zero fucks. and will continue to give zero fucks until usd/btc bubbles up again. << at the time it was 50-70bux or so. [23:54]
mircea_popescu go break into one of these low income households, rape the women, kill the men, ransack the drawers. [23:54]
mircea_popescu see how many COUPONS you find. to "save" generally 5-10 bux. [23:54]
decimation re: version numbers: what about the knuth model of approching pi or something? [23:54]
* mod6 looks [23:55]
decimation ben_vulpes: technically pointy sticks are already outlawed in most us states [23:55]
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mircea_popescu fellow using webwalled - is quite like above illustration. << pretty good one. especially because it happened [23:56]
mod6 decimation: got a link to something about that, not seeing anything relevant [23:56]
mircea_popescu hence the boiler room name [23:56]
mod6 decimation: they just outlawed sledding too [23:56]
mod6 LEL [23:56]
decimation "The latest and best TeX is currently version 3.14159265 (and plain.tex is version 3.141592653); METAFONT is currently version 2.7182818 (and is version 2.71). " [23:57]
assbot Page not found | Stanford Computer Science ... ( ) [23:57]
mod6 ah thx [23:57]
decimation or were you talking about pointy sticks? [23:57]
mircea_popescu can't say as i get it. either one owns btc or one doesn't. << one either owns real estate or doesn't. where does that leave the teenagers, inhabiting comfortable middle class homes they can't afford, and not even having to suck cock for it, like they will a decade down the road ? [23:57]
mod6 decimation: i mean the pi versioning. [23:58]
decimation so the idea would be you approach some irrational number with each improvement (add a digit) [23:59]
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