Forum logs for 25 Aug 2015
Sunday, 24 November, Year 11 d.Tr. | Author: Mircea Popescu
mircea_popescu | anyway. they sorta-read ba, mostly indirectly, and pretend like they're their own item. which is... you know, most people out there anyway. | [00:00] |
BingoBoingo | trinque: Anyways compact pickup over KING MEGA RANCH 6500 because what if one needs to go to Mexico cheaply? | [00:00] |
asciilifeform | dafuq is grabhive ? | [00:00] |
asciilifeform | domain is defunct | [00:00] |
asciilifeform | https://twitter.com/hivewallet << this apparently | [00:01] |
assbot | Hive (@hivewallet) | Twitter ... ( http://bit.ly/1NQM7vk ) | [00:01] |
trinque | BingoBoingo: yeah, I've got no love for those giant ones aside from their utility re: actual work | [00:01] |
trinque | say you're hauling a literal shitload of horses, great | [00:01] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.monitorulcj.ro/sport/47949-clujeanca-bianca-razor-s-a-calificat-in-semifinale-campionatului-mondial-de-atletism-la-proba-de-400-m << almost hawt chick. | [00:01] |
assbot | Clujeanca Bianca Răzor s-a calificat în semifinalele Campionatului Mondial de atletism la proba de 400 m ... ( http://bit.ly/1NQMbLx ) | [00:01] |
BingoBoingo | trinque: ANd for that purpose, gotta keep the cabin utilitarian so the help doesn't get temped to burn gas dicking around. | [00:02] |
* | asciilifeform just had mindfuck moment, read the title of that piece without realizing what language it was in | [00:02] |
BingoBoingo | https://i.imgur.com/UI3VIXn.png << USian 'Woman' | [00:02] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1NQMgPl ) | [00:02] |
mircea_popescu | ahahaha. broke fat louse has rulesets ? | [00:03] |
hanbot | in latest ml adventure, rotor-test2 for i686 makes a static bitcoind that gives sigill w/ LC_ALL=C (and won't run w/o it): http://dpaste.com/0J6HXAH | [00:03] |
assbot | dpaste: 0J6HXAH ... ( http://bit.ly/1MPX7Mk ) | [00:03] |
BingoBoingo | [00:04] | |
mircea_popescu | oh right. | [00:05] |
mircea_popescu | i wonder who the fuck ever looked at her and thought "hey, i want her" | [00:05] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.fanatik.ro/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/22/udrea1.jpg << for the record, this is the ass of romania's EX president's ex private secretary woman. pretty competent politician too. | [00:06] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1MPXlDl ) | [00:06] |
mircea_popescu | she's like 50 | [00:06] |
BingoBoingo | I really want to bring the filipinos USG pays for to USia to scrap the place collecting lipodiesel and biodiesel in the Iowan uranium mines. | [00:08] |
asciilifeform | hanbot: plz build unstripped and post gdb trace ?? | [00:08] |
asciilifeform | hanbot: or at least lemme have the binary | [00:08] |
asciilifeform | (unstripped) | [00:08] |
asciilifeform | stripped bin is gonna look like that paste, buncha ????s | [00:09] |
asciilifeform | hanbot: dollars to doughnuts you built a x86-64 component and it somehow got linked ! | [00:10] |
asciilifeform | this is betrayed by 'Illegal instruction.' | [00:10] |
* | trinque hazards a guess it might've been db | [00:11] |
asciilifeform | (i presume hanbot is actually testing on a machine running in 32-bit mode) | [00:11] |
asciilifeform | trinque: a long-mode-only opcode got shuffled in, almost dead certain | [00:11] |
trinque | makes sense | [00:12] |
* | assbot removes voice from RagnarDanneskjol | [00:13] |
asciilifeform | gcc linker is dumb as a brick, but we knew this. | [00:13] |
hanbot | [00:13] | |
asciilifeform | hanbot: you can examine your .o files with objdump | [00:14] |
asciilifeform | hanbot: but i also gotta ask, why are you building a x86-32 bitcoind ? | [00:14] |
asciilifeform | i mean, i can see arm-32 (pogo et al) or mips-32 | [00:14] |
asciilifeform | but x86? | [00:14] |
mircea_popescu | why not ? | [00:15] |
asciilifeform | no especially heavy reason why not | [00:15] |
asciilifeform | it's a curious first choice, that's all. | [00:15] |
mircea_popescu | seems "nobody else did it" is a huge reason to. | [00:16] |
hanbot | well, machine/os i've got for testing is what i've got for testing. why not, indeed. | [00:16] |
* | asciilifeform ought to visit the place where he has a vintage sgi octane-II rusting away, and port to that | [00:16] |
asciilifeform | 'FWIW adding SSL to the protocol is a fairly relatively non-invasive change. It might be worthwhile to implement that first as a means to test the developers you wish to hire to later implement partial mode.' << l0l!! | [00:18] |
BingoBoingo | Do you have a free shiva hand for that? | [00:18] |
asciilifeform | BingoBoingo: sadly no | [00:18] |
BingoBoingo | asciilifeform: I feel you there, my dosimeter has been peaked for a while | [00:19] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86250 @ 0.00071368 = 61.5549 BTC [-] {4} | [00:20] |
asciilifeform | 'Just so you know this stuff about Tor has me worried... Please don't make this public, but my day job involves intelligence, and I'm in a relatively high position. You know, I went into the job years ago with very different thoughts about it than I do now. The last, well, decade really has changed a lot of minds in this field, in totally different ways. Myself I am on the side of Snowden and Assange, but... lets just say when | [00:20] |
asciilifeform | you have a family your willingness to be a martyr diminishes. The same is true of many of my colleagues. Hopefully my support for Bitcoin can help undo some of the damage we've done, but I do have to be careful and it's tough to take all the precautions I need to to be able to communicate. If it was found out that I was involved with Bitcoin that way I have been, let's just say there would be consequences...' | [00:20] |
mircea_popescu | herpderp. | [00:21] |
mircea_popescu | the blonde without a piece of paper saying breathe and the usian without his cockhead in his own mouth would just fall over and die. | [00:22] |
hanbot | ldd bitcoin/src/bitcoind: /usr/bin/ldd: line 161: /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: cannot execute binary file , ftr. | [00:23] |
asciilifeform | 'We are unable to explain the true nature of these patches in public because they guard against absolutely terrible DoS exploits that can take down ANY Bitcoin node. So instead we called it, "Minor efficiency improvement in block peer request handling." which is somewhat true of the patch.' | [00:23] |
mats | asciilifeform: I find this unbelievable | [00:23] |
asciilifeform | mats: which? the gcc linker happily munching soup ? | [00:24] |
asciilifeform | hanbot: there we go. | [00:24] |
mircea_popescu | the linker wouldn't really have a way to know. | [00:24] |
asciilifeform | actually linker oughtta know, the elf is marked | [00:24] |
asciilifeform | but it is an old-fashioned tool, does not check that barrel is not pointed at your temple before whacking the firing pin. | [00:25] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [DIRECT] 1200 @ 0.0021 = 2.52 BTC [+] | [00:25] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40300 @ 0.00071204 = 28.6952 BTC [-] {3} | [00:25] |
mats | no, this 'dun tell anyone, but am intel worker and support snowden and afraid of consequences of bitcoin involvement' smells | [00:25] |
trinque | the action movie phrasing of "let's just say..." overloads my bullshit-meter | [00:25] |
asciilifeform | mats: a shill may well say it, to gain sympathy | [00:26] |
asciilifeform | doesn't have to be true, ya know | [00:26] |
mats | guess so | [00:26] |
asciilifeform | doubleagent sop | [00:26] |
asciilifeform | 'my boss is so mean' | [00:26] |
mircea_popescu | https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3i8dbn/8_failing_bitcoin_businesses_desperately_demand/ lol | [00:27] |
assbot | 8 failing bitcoin businesses desperately demand computer code increase their stagnant userbase. : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1MPZ1g4 ) | [00:27] |
* | mircea_popescu mildly regrets having linked the turd sample. | [00:27] |
mircea_popescu | is the timewaste at least enjoyable ? | [00:27] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: surely | [00:27] |
mircea_popescu | aok then | [00:28] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: and if you got any more of these, they are prolly likewise enjoyable. | [00:28] |
mircea_popescu | you know you gotta work sometime! | [00:28] |
asciilifeform | but i don't expect to find the launch codes in there, no. | [00:28] |
asciilifeform | l0l | [00:28] |
asciilifeform | 'gpg: encrypted with RSA key, ID 00000000' << win | [00:28] |
mircea_popescu | breadcrumbs. | [00:29] |
asciilifeform | shitcrumbs | [00:29] |
mircea_popescu | to the true rabbit, shit is bread. | [00:30] |
asciilifeform | aha | [00:30] |
asciilifeform | mega-cacotroph | [00:30] |
hanbot | asciilifeform so how do i tell linker not to link said item? or do i, even? | [00:36] |
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asciilifeform | hanbot: problem is that something got built for x86-64 instead of x86 | [00:41] |
asciilifeform | chances are, it was boost | [00:41] |
asciilifeform | which has machine arch explicitly specified in stator.sh | [00:41] |
asciilifeform | but could also be openssl, ditto | [00:41] |
asciilifeform | hanbot: plz post your stator.sh | [00:42] |
deedbot- | [Qntra] Concerns for the Toomim Brothers Mining - http://qntra.net/2015/08/concerns-for-the-toomim-brothers-mining/ | [00:43] |
hanbot | http://dpaste.com/0W7W8YJ (in which ./Configure --prefix=$OURLIBS no-dso no-shared threads linux-x86_64 && make && make install_sw; , heh) | [00:46] |
assbot | dpaste: 0W7W8YJ ... ( http://bit.ly/1V61Hrb ) | [00:46] |
asciilifeform | hanbot: fix it then. | [00:47] |
hanbot | mhm. | [00:48] |
asciilifeform | hanbot: linux-x86 | [00:48] |
* | hanbot puts a quarter in the dint'd raed jar | [00:48] |
gernika | thestringpuller: "However it does rise the humidity of the surrounding air" - should be "raise" - http://qntra.net/2015/08/concerns-for-the-toomim-brothers-mining/ | [00:49] |
assbot | Concerns for the Toomim Brothers Mining | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1V61TqC ) | [00:49] |
BingoBoingo | gernika: fxd | [00:50] |
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BingoBoingo | Win http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--GsVkysXZ--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/1400215357088099761.png | [01:06] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1MQ1ZRQ ) | [01:06] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20100 @ 0.00071698 = 14.4113 BTC [+] | [01:15] |
mircea_popescu | da fuck is that ? | [01:17] |
BingoBoingo | A frat house on freshman move in day | [01:17] |
BingoBoingo | They put out a polite invitation for the girls and their mums | [01:18] |
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mircea_popescu | mmkay. | [01:19] |
BingoBoingo | ;;bc,stats | [01:21] |
gribble | Current Blocks: 371413 | Current Difficulty: 5.425663032788996E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 372959 | Next Difficulty In: 1546 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 0 hours, 56 minutes, and 6 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None | [01:21] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/priority-ashley-madison-leak-no-big-deal-think/ << shit i was wrong. | [01:31] |
assbot | Ashley Madison Leak No Big Deal? Think Again ... ( http://bit.ly/1KJd7K9 ) | [01:31] |
mircea_popescu | "Ironically, this is the second time I’ve run across Popescu in my writing. Popescu is a member of a group who call themselves “The Bitcoin Lordship,” who opposed a necessary increase in the Bitcoin block size for some very silly and shortsighted reasons. I remember thinking that he in particular was an ugly combination of paranoid, narcissistic, and downright mean. I now feel somewhat vindicated in that assessme | [01:32] |
mircea_popescu | nt, and more than a little gratified that his blog seems to have shutdown in the ensuing mess." | [01:32] |
mircea_popescu | herp ? | [01:32] |
mircea_popescu | "Trust me: nothing of value was lost." | [01:32] |
mircea_popescu | "The latest Tweets from Andre Infante (@AndreTI). FutureTech editor at MakeUseOf. Game developer. Future savior of humanity. New Mexico." | [01:33] |
mircea_popescu | mmkay. | [01:33] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21200 @ 0.00071723 = 15.2053 BTC [+] | [01:35] |
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asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: 'if i say it three times, it is true!' (tm) (r) (lewis carroll) | [01:38] |
mircea_popescu | still, derp gets the prize for paying attention. | [01:39] |
asciilifeform | handler gets prize. | [01:39] |
asciilifeform | derp - gets salary. | [01:39] |
BingoBoingo | "I now feel somewhat vindicated in that assessment, and more than a little gratified that his blog seems to have shutdown in the ensuing mess." << IncrediLoL | [01:39] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44400 @ 0.00071796 = 31.8774 BTC [+] {3} | [01:43] |
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felipelalli | mircea_popescu, just buy 5000 nodes and stop with this joke, please: http://www.xtnodes.com/ | [02:09] |
assbot | XTnodes.com - Bitcoin XT Nodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lu6LBf ) | [02:09] |
BingoBoingo | Can't even spell Andressen, can't even link qntra https://archive.is/zokeX | [02:09] |
assbot | The Hard Fork: Will Bitcoin XT Take? - NASDAQ.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lu6NJe ) | [02:09] |
BingoBoingo | [02:11] | |
assbot | XTnodes.com - Bitcoin XT Nodes ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lu6LBf ) | [02:11] |
felipelalli | BingoBoingo, lol I'm so ingenuous. Thank you! | [02:11] |
felipelalli | I just forgot that. | [02:12] |
felipelalli | BingoBoingo, but it would be funny. | [02:13] |
BingoBoingo | felipelalli: But not maximally funny. Better to keep therealbitcoin gearing low nao to better handle rocks. Gotta get pwer from the flywheel to the ground to climb a mountain | [02:14] |
felipelalli | They setup 3500 nodes in few minutes, low blow. | [02:16] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo he prolly loaded it during a ddos bout or something | [02:16] |
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BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: There surprisingly hasn't been a qntra DoS that I have noticed since the XT'ening | [02:17] |
mircea_popescu | felipelalli im not entirely sure what the fake node count does tbh. | [02:17] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo or since some guy came in here and apologize about something vague | [02:17] |
BingoBoingo | Well, onto the qntra comments for the same. These things happen with increasing frequency. | [02:18] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58757 @ 0.00071113 = 41.7839 BTC [-] {2} | [02:19] |
mircea_popescu | http://bitcoingriefers.com/rankings/ << 2nd! | [02:24] |
assbot | Rankings | Bitcoin Griefers ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lu7d2v ) | [02:24] |
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BingoBoingo | Above Pirateat40!!! | [02:26] |
BingoBoingo | the 1418 is pretty weak though mircea_popescu, better fix that | [02:28] |
mircea_popescu | i am the only "political prisoner" on the list so to speak. | [02:29] |
BingoBoingo | lol | [02:31] |
BingoBoingo | mircea_popescu: now you are #1 | [02:35] |
mircea_popescu | lol ? | [02:36] |
mircea_popescu | http://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-21537-post-1096996.html#pid1096996 << kinda incredible how far bitcoin actually reaches. | [02:36] |
assbot | The Bitcoin thread ... ( http://bit.ly/1U3BnRD ) | [02:36] |
mircea_popescu | what do zerohedge, rooshv and whatever have in common ? a live interest in bitcoin | [02:36] |
mircea_popescu | sorta like being a name in flying cca 1920, everyone's got a throught for you. | [02:36] |
mircea_popescu | wait BingoBoingo is that you ? | [02:39] |
BingoBoingo | Not that one, no | [02:39] |
BingoBoingo | I am never apologetic to randos on the interwebz | [02:41] |
BingoBoingo | So, I moved the Popescu, Ulbricht slate above the shitheads on that griefer site. No good reason why MP and RU should have low elo ratings. | [02:47] |
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mircea_popescu | what am i gonna tell my mom! | [02:51] |
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BingoBoingo | You won? | [02:52] |
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mircea_popescu | hm. | [02:52] |
BingoBoingo | I'm voting based on misery brought upon Derps, no moral consideration involved | [02:52] |
BingoBoingo | Or is griefing not the act of bringing grief upon people/beoble | [02:53] |
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ben_vulpes | ;;later tell pete_dushenski not really my jam. | [02:56] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [02:56] |
mircea_popescu | i have no idea lol. voting stuff. | [02:56] |
ben_vulpes | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-08-2015#1251096 << i actually ran into a client thing that looks 90% hand rolled | [02:59] |
assbot | Logged on 25-08-2015 00:40:27; phf: is a standard answer to "howto in ruby?" "we use pegster gem with mustashbar extension, though lately we've been migrating to fellater gem" | [02:59] |
ben_vulpes | has been limping along since 2007 | [02:59] |
ben_vulpes | ghost galleon in orbit. everyone fears it and doesn't know how it works. | [02:59] |
* | mircea_popescu wonders if fellater gem is actually a thing | [03:09] |
ben_vulpes | 'factory girl' is close | [03:09] |
ben_vulpes | mircea_popescu: i'll be puzzling over that quiz for a bit. wonderful fun! | [03:11] |
ben_vulpes | i'd probably sweat through a shirt taking it | [03:11] |
mircea_popescu | make sure you reload it sometime tomorrow just in case i actually wake up with any ideas. | [03:11] |
* | BingoBoingo seriously suggests biology section | [03:12] |
mircea_popescu | it does give me a taste of a very old yet apparently not forgotten "you are not expected to understand this" day at special math studies group within gifted kids hs. which is hopefully a ghood thing. | [03:13] |
mircea_popescu | BingoBoingo im not putting a biology section in there! | [03:13] |
mircea_popescu | what if it raises ctulhu! | [03:13] |
BingoBoingo | Isn't it supposed to! | [03:13] |
mircea_popescu | no. | [03:14] |
mircea_popescu | it's like perverse asian sex practice. edging only. | [03:14] |
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BingoBoingo | Fine, if it is edging Biology section only needs one question: "Is fire alive?" | [03:15] |
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mircea_popescu | ima make a metaphysical section with quotes from you. | [03:17] |
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BingoBoingo | Could work. I just dunno why alf is so anti-section b | [03:18] |
ben_vulpes | c4: "python so that the world might participate" | [03:18] |
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mircea_popescu | avram iancu is a romanian folk hero. famously a guy answered "describe in brief the life and activity of avram iancu" task by writing down the letter R | [03:20] |
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mircea_popescu | which turns the name into "Avram takes it in the butt" | [03:20] |
ben_vulpes | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-08-2015#1251301 << input parsing is hard yo just ask the pygpg people | [03:20] |
assbot | Logged on 25-08-2015 01:22:58; mircea_popescu: either < or something. esp <--- is a comment. | [03:20] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38950 @ 0.00071516 = 27.8555 BTC [+] {2} | [03:31] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17650 @ 0.00070876 = 12.5096 BTC [-] {4} | [03:51] |
trinque | deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/0A1CH2K.txt | [03:54] |
deedbot- | accepted: 1 | [03:54] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jix6Bz ) | [03:54] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76669 @ 0.00071422 = 54.7585 BTC [+] {3} | [04:04] |
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fluffypony | http://mybroadband.co.za/news/software/136148-most-popular-programming-languages-on-github-2008-to-2015.html | [04:38] |
assbot | Most popular programming languages on Github: 2008 to 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1WPnsxg ) | [04:38] |
fluffypony | tl;dr: decline in Ruby, Python, and C. Massive increase in Java, C#, and CSS. Javascript is #1. | [04:39] |
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mircea_popescu | lol sorry about that wyrdmantis | [05:02] |
mircea_popescu | heh | [05:03] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48200 @ 0.00070869 = 34.1589 BTC [-] | [05:06] |
mircea_popescu | fluffypony in fairness, if one did the same calculation for "artists", bellybutton lint would probably figure very high | [05:08] |
fluffypony | hah hah | [05:08] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00071542 = 13.9507 BTC [+] | [05:12] |
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mircea_popescu | asciilifeform looking into it. | [13:50] |
lobbes | thestringpuller: lol. Well there's somethin' about the 'pure' nicotine that doesn't do it for me with e-cigs. Though BB's point about MAOI persisting in 'traditional' tobacco smoke perhaps makes more sense | [13:55] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform dunno, seems to be blackholed somehow. the server itself is fine. the looking into continues. | [13:56] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: see log. traceroutes all fall into neverneverland | [13:57] |
mircea_popescu | well sure. from pretty much everywherre | [13:57] |
asciilifeform | aha. both sides of atlantic. | [13:57] |
mircea_popescu | http://dpaste.com/1YEMCVW << pretty early, too. | [13:58] |
assbot | dpaste: 1YEMCVW ... ( http://bit.ly/1U4vjIu ) | [13:58] |
mircea_popescu | i mean... what's the connection between core11.hetzner.de and verizon-gni.net | [13:58] |
asciilifeform | none, it's the dropoff | [13:58] |
asciilifeform | the former - yours, the latter - mine | [13:58] |
mircea_popescu | course trilema is also a little sluggish | [13:58] |
lobbes | ;;later tell trinque is deedbot- handling phuctor now too? No worries either way; I just want to make sure our gears are turning in-sync | [13:58] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [13:58] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53560 @ 0.00071421 = 38.2531 BTC [-] {5} | [14:02] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-08-2015#1251759 << incidentally, on a multicore system one could probably do some pretty spiffy kernel improvements to squeeze more juice for a purely node system. | [14:22] |
assbot | Logged on 25-08-2015 13:16:07; asciilifeform: wyrdmantis: on top of this, but not last, is the fact that context switches happen and your cached pages are regularly evicted to admit crud | [14:22] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: best kernel improvement is to single-task the thing | [14:22] |
mircea_popescu | just the fact that "these pages don't get swapped" would prolly 3x the whole thing or some shit | [14:22] |
mircea_popescu | and who watches the ethercard ? | [14:23] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: the nic knows how to dma, recall. | [14:23] |
mircea_popescu | i do not think there ever existed a "single task programmable computer" yet, in spite of convincing early ibm emulation. you either get signal processing or multi tasking | [14:23] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: thing is, none of this is even worth thinking about until items like multiprocessorized sig validation are a thing | [14:23] |
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asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: 'single task' in the sense of there not being a timeslicer | [14:24] |
mircea_popescu | kernel gets a timeslicer for itself anyway | [14:24] |
asciilifeform | yes, you still have interrupt handlers. | [14:24] |
mircea_popescu | so it can run "this timeslicing is no longer supporterd please run upgrade" | [14:24] |
asciilifeform | but it is perfectly feasible to run something like bitcoin as an embedded proggy. | [14:24] |
mircea_popescu | no argument. was just pounding the more theoretical side of things. | [14:25] |
asciilifeform | i worked it out. the only interrupt handlers one even needs, are a) timer b) nic frame ring buffer (tx, rx) full/empty. | [14:26] |
asciilifeform | (and, optionally, disk dma req. complete) | [14:26] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, our friends' apparently well intended conundrum is i think illustrative for the woe betid the modern man, asked to come up with "votes" on matters so far removed from his understanding. | [14:27] |
asciilifeform | could, theoretically, do this port even now, if one were to 'de-thread' the thing | [14:27] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform if the chinese are actually fucktarded enough to allow usg to not get its wish but nevertheless move the window in not getting it, we'll probably not only de-thread it but rewrite the whole sheband, and with a better pow algo at that. | [14:28] |
asciilifeform | lucky job that i have one. (and i'd be disappointed if only i) | [14:28] |
mircea_popescu | i'm curious if the size of that empire will allow the young and clueless mining derps be squashed by decade-old us foreign policy technology that their older, more politically central counterparts have long ago figured how to sink | [14:28] |
mircea_popescu | but, this discussion's yet out of its time. | [14:29] |
asciilifeform | parachute! | [14:29] |
mircea_popescu | mno. | [14:29] |
mircea_popescu | you ever seen the robotzi re parachutes ? | [14:29] |
asciilifeform | dun think so | [14:29] |
mircea_popescu | lemme dig it up, then you can watch it then i can say something pithy about it | [14:30] |
mircea_popescu | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0Ei81re1Ao | [14:30] |
assbot | RObotzi.S03.Ep3.Hobby - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JWlSWP ) | [14:30] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/litecoin/comments/1qvgld/a_leak_in_the_bitcoin_reddit_shows_private << lulz | [14:30] |
assbot | A leak in the bitcoin reddit, shows private messages between bitcoin developers included litecoin head developer : litecoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1JWm0Wn ) | [14:30] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [14:31] |
asciilifeform | apparently no one gave a shit then, either. | [14:31] |
asciilifeform | (spoiler: it's the paste from last night.) | [14:31] |
mircea_popescu | as you say, entomological interest. | [14:32] |
asciilifeform | much entomological sample, so scarce the ddt. | [14:33] |
mircea_popescu | so didja see it ? | [14:34] |
asciilifeform | see what? | [14:34] |
mircea_popescu | youtube above! | [14:35] |
mircea_popescu | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-08-2015#1251766 << i recall this tidbit of shisdom peppered throughout the "conversation" | [14:35] |
assbot | Logged on 25-08-2015 13:20:26; kakobrekla: i dont see why the idiots dont take the leap and think that limited block size may actually give some small value to their beloved alts | [14:35] |
kakobrekla | ah ok then | [14:36] |
mircea_popescu | wyrdmantis no fucking way your name actually is "dalroverezurla" | [14:36] |
kakobrekla | so the 5 btc went to buy silk road stuff ? | [14:36] |
mircea_popescu | nfi. something with donations or w/e. | [14:37] |
* | asciilifeform still not very handy with spoken ro | [14:37] |
mircea_popescu | prolly went to sergent blackforce the 9th power or w/e | [14:37] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform ok, ima translate it in a second then | [14:37] |
mircea_popescu | these guys are impossible anyway | [14:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52162 @ 0.00070977 = 37.023 BTC [-] {3} | [14:40] |
mircea_popescu | !rated wyrdmantis | [14:41] |
assbot | You have not rated wyrdmantis. | [14:41] |
mircea_popescu | !rate wyrdmantis 1 Good name. | [14:41] |
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jurov | !t m f.mpif | [14:41] |
assbot | I don't give a shit who saw what and who did what or who did who. | [14:41] |
assbot | [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 15 @ 0.10097459 = 1.5146 BTC [-] {5} | [14:46] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108500 @ 0.00072101 = 78.2296 BTC [+] {3} | [14:54] |
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mircea_popescu | asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2015/robotzi-s03-ep3-hobby/ | [15:04] |
assbot | RObotzi S03 Ep3 : Hobby on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JwSnc1 ) | [15:04] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: neato! | [15:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18750 @ 0.00070977 = 13.3082 BTC [-] | [15:06] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39507 @ 0.00070977 = 28.0409 BTC [-] | [15:07] |
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mircea_popescu | dja see what i mean ? | [15:10] |
asciilifeform | aha. | [15:10] |
mircea_popescu | anyway, the whole as is down, being worked on, dulap should be back later. | [15:10] |
asciilifeform | spiffy | [15:10] |
asciilifeform | all of this reminds me of the famous sovderpitude re: phone tap installation | [15:11] |
asciilifeform | ~crackle~, ~hiss~, ..., ..., outage | [15:11] |
mircea_popescu | lol | [15:12] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43950 @ 0.00070449 = 30.9623 BTC [-] | [15:12] |
mircea_popescu | progress is what happens when everything gradually goes to shit | [15:13] |
mircea_popescu | so whadja expect. | [15:13] |
asciilifeform | hogress. | [15:13] |
asciilifeform | ... and it appear that i'm ~still~ the only one keeping public therealbitcoin nodez ?? are folks waiting for the version string thing (imho pretty useless...) or what ? | [15:14] |
jurov | ;;later tell felipelalli btc-dev l2 keys are updated once per day, if your emails still aren't accepted, i'll check it it on weekend (currently abroad, no access) | [15:15] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [15:15] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3icef3/leaked_btc_foundation_digest_2013_complete_with << they luvv it | [15:17] |
assbot | Leaked Btc Foundation Digest (2013) - complete with confessed NSA stoolies, planned lies to public, etc. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1hEnOqH ) | [15:17] |
asciilifeform | (anybody need a bucket of cockroaches for anything ??!11) | [15:17] |
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punkman | so petertodd loaned John Dillon 5.1 btc, which he then sent to gmaxwell, to https://blockchain.info/address/1BDSZMaUvrbTjWsSgLA4XqYUK4dDzxREEV which is tagged "DPR seized coins"? | [15:24] |
assbot | Bitcoin Address 1BDSZMaUvrbTjWsSgLA4XqYUK4dDzxREEV ... ( http://bit.ly/1hEozQv ) | [15:24] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46100 @ 0.00070377 = 32.4438 BTC [-] {2} | [15:25] |
punkman | oh wrong link, 1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH was supposed to be gmaxwell's address | [15:27] |
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kakobrekla | is that when sr was still up? | [15:27] |
* | mircea_popescu looks for the "as mp said a few months ago", doesn't find it, doesn't give a shit. | [15:27] |
asciilifeform | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-10-2013#337920 | [15:29] |
assbot | Logged on 02-10-2013 15:46:43; ozbot: FBI raids alleged online drug market Silk Road, arrests owner | [15:29] |
asciilifeform | kakobrekla: yes | [15:30] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99900 @ 0.00070361 = 70.2906 BTC [-] {4} | [15:30] |
kakobrekla | so, someone bought some drugs. | [15:30] |
punkman | the 5.1099 btc was sent on 2013-11-16 | [15:30] |
kakobrekla | wasnt it 2013-10-26 | [15:31] |
asciilifeform | hm | [15:31] |
asciilifeform | even more peculiar. | [15:31] |
punkman | kakobrekla: no that's when petertodd sent the money to Dillon | [15:32] |
jurov | http://www.explo.yt/slush_on_xt.png a little kek | [15:32] |
kakobrekla | https://blockchain.info/address/1BDSZMaUvrbTjWsSgLA4XqYUK4dDzxREEV this address i thin kwas under dprs control | [15:32] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ubqec7 ) | [15:32] |
assbot | Bitcoin Address 1BDSZMaUvrbTjWsSgLA4XqYUK4dDzxREEV ... ( http://bit.ly/1hEozQv ) | [15:32] |
kakobrekla | https://blockchain.info/address/1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH this one is under usms | [15:32] |
assbot | Bitcoin Address 1FfmbHfnpaZjKFvyi1okTjJJusN455paPH ... ( http://bit.ly/1UbqhES ) | [15:32] |
punkman | so john dillon wasn't a spook, was dpr? | [15:32] |
kakobrekla | deposited to sr wallet | [15:33] |
kakobrekla | id say | [15:33] |
kakobrekla | dunno | [15:33] |
kakobrekla | yes, after bust . | [15:33] |
mircea_popescu | jurov guy's gone full retard. | [15:35] |
mircea_popescu | !rated slush | [15:35] |
assbot | You rated user slush on 20-Aug-2015, with a rating of -10, and supplied these additional notes: fuckwit. | [15:35] |
mircea_popescu | but lol @gogulski | [15:36] |
mircea_popescu | the only shit that's bad is still in your head, yo. | [15:36] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: funnily enough, i encountered gogulski entirely by chance, elsewhere: | [15:36] |
mircea_popescu | that's what not agreeing with me usually means. that you got some horse droppings in a portion of your brain. | [15:36] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: here >> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1352 << he bought my 'dukedom' | [15:37] |
assbot | Loper OS » Dukedom for Sale. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JwU6Oz ) | [15:37] |
mircea_popescu | good for him | [15:37] |
* | asciilifeform does not know anything else about herr gogulski, other than the incident where he publicly burned his u.s. passport and formally renounced citizenship | [15:38] |
mircea_popescu | there's an immense pile of people who "don't agree with mp" as if that's some sort of vanity prop. | [15:39] |
mircea_popescu | which... whatevs. growing up happens to the best of 'em. | [15:39] |
* | asciilifeform was contemplating the apparent fact that: whatever other things the rogue's gallery of stoolies, shills, miscellaneous usg vermin got in reward for their collaboration, coin does not appear to be among them. hence there is likely massive enthusiasm for anything that smacks of destroying or at least defiling bitcoin, on grounds of sheer envy | [15:42] |
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asciilifeform | 'perhaps ~now~ we get a chance' | [15:42] |
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asciilifeform | https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3icef3/leaked_btc_foundation_digest_2013_complete_with/cufbrx6 << cockroach squirms | [15:50] |
punkman | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279249.msg3009444#msg3009444 << addresses used by jdillon to donate 10btc to coinjoin fund https://blockchain.info/tx/1332f6d0ba9b7101edab1f183d36a09d6036561cf36de1326a68523107b3e7b2 | [15:50] |
assbot | petertodd comments on Leaked Btc Foundation Digest (2013) - complete with confessed NSA stoolies, planned lies to public, etc. ... ( http://bit.ly/1UbtuUK ) | [15:50] |
assbot | CoinJoin: Bitcoin privacy for the real world ... ( http://bit.ly/1UbtxA8 ) | [15:50] |
assbot | Bitcoin Transaction 1332f6d0ba9b7101edab1f183d36a09d6036561cf36de1326a68523107b3e7b2 ... ( http://bit.ly/1UbtxQo ) | [15:50] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: re: workfunctions, there was once some theoretical work concerning 'non-outsourceable puzzles', i.e. mathematical magic preventing the formation of pools by allowing any pool participant to silently and untraceably claim the entire block reward. but i cannot recall if this went anywhere other than academiwankery. | [15:55] |
asciilifeform | (naturally, not applicable to extant bitcoin.) | [15:56] |
mircea_popescu | it was discussed in bitcoin too. | [15:59] |
mircea_popescu | predictably, pool ops do not like the idea at all. | [15:59] |
mircea_popescu | nevertheless, it's plenty applicable, if one talks forks. | [15:59] |
mircea_popescu | but by the time one talks forks to that level, some sort of much different bitcoin would be on the table anyway. with ring signatures and various other items. | [16:00] |
mircea_popescu | " whatever other things the rogue's gallery of stoolies, shills, miscellaneous usg vermin got in reward for their collaboration, coin does not appear to be among them" <<< ahahahaha. fucking DOH. not even usg is this fucking stupid. albeit this is not deliberately, just, the low level idiots have no access to any btc and the high level doods know better. but for that matter : usg employees don't even get fiat. | [16:04] |
mircea_popescu | people in the camp work for a) promises of future and b) mortgage-and-meal tickets. | [16:04] |
mircea_popescu | what bitcoin. | [16:04] |
mircea_popescu | you think the fucktards writing "gawker" and all its clones are getting paid ? thjey aren't. they do it because i won't take them to work for qntra, and they imagine that if they persevere they can somehow prevail without needing to actually do the hard work. | [16:05] |
mircea_popescu | the same's true throughout. | [16:05] |
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asciilifeform | even pig is sometimes permitted to eat truffle | [16:08] |
asciilifeform | but not often. | [16:08] |
asciilifeform | 'usg employees don't even get fiat' << this is true in a strictly technical sense. but in fact senior nomenklatura ('ses' and up, but also grey-usg folk like uni professors) bring in very decent dough via 'contracting' and pseudo-industrial gigs. | [16:10] |
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mircea_popescu | how many monets' worth ? | [16:12] |
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mircea_popescu | this is the point easily missed. "oh, bitcoin is a 5 bn dollar system". no it's fucking not lol. | [16:12] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: easily into the multiple millimonets, for a typical case | [16:12] |
mircea_popescu | you can buy about 100k and it stays at 5bn | [16:13] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: but for senior brass, whole monets | [16:13] |
mircea_popescu | once you buy 1bn, it's suddenly a 50 trillion system | [16:13] |
mircea_popescu | same is true of monets, but the exponential's going the other way | [16:13] |
asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: somehow no one is foolish enough to make the mistake in, e.g., aluminum market | [16:13] |
* | asciilifeform was using 'millimonet' as an approximate unit, 4 * 10^4 usd. | [16:14] |
funkenstein_ | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-08-2015#1251979 <-- a test implementation exists called "spreadcoin" | [16:14] |
assbot | Logged on 25-08-2015 18:53:47; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: workfunctions, there was once some theoretical work concerning 'non-outsourceable puzzles', i.e. mathematical magic preventing the formation of pools by allowing any pool participant to silently and untraceably claim the entire block reward. but i cannot recall if this went anywhere other than academiwankery. | [16:14] |
asciilifeform | 'spreading works!!111!!!11' | [16:15] |
asciilifeform | funkenstein_: appears to be entirely dead | [16:16] |
asciilifeform | funkenstein_: so dead that not even a copy of the paper can be turned up. | [16:17] |
asciilifeform | or, hm, maybe not | [16:18] |
asciilifeform | http://www.spreadcoin.info/downloads/SpreadCoin-WhitePaper.pdf | [16:18] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1NH9dqx ) | [16:18] |
asciilifeform | ^http://dpaste.com/2CMFP15 | [16:18] |
asciilifeform | 'In SpreadCoin mining is organized in such way that miner must know the following things: 1. Private key corresponding to the coinbase transaction. 2. Whole block, not only its header. ... Pool may detect and ban cheating miners. However, many miners may still prefer to cheat so that pool will be completely unusable for honest miners.' | [16:21] |
* | asciilifeform not convinced that this works as described | [16:21] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform funnily, the "corner silver market" was the opposite mistake. ie, "we'll make thius a 500 bn system for no reason" | [16:24] |
mircea_popescu | odd how selective stupidity is. it'll only do its stupid thing where it doesn';t stand a chance, but will avoid where it'd work. | [16:24] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10102 @ 0.00070449 = 7.1168 BTC [+] | [16:31] |
punkman | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6430 interesting | [16:31] |
assbot | ECDSA Signatures allow recovery of the public key ... ( http://bit.ly/1NHayNO ) | [16:31] |
punkman | (linked from spreadcoin text) | [16:32] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53750 @ 0.00070323 = 37.7986 BTC [-] {3} | [16:33] |
mircea_popescu | well yes ? | [16:36] |
mircea_popescu | check out gavin from 2011 : "What's the extra CPU cost for recovering the public key? Current bottleneck for bitcoin transaction processing is the CPU cost of ECDSA signature verification, not disk space or bandwidth, so saving bytes at the expense of more CPU is not the right thing to do." | [16:37] |
mircea_popescu | it's not like he doesn't KNOW what he's doing oir anything. | [16:39] |
punkman | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186264 | [16:41] |
assbot | Improving the trustworthyness of PGP keys with Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1NHbJNh ) | [16:41] |
punkman | "If you are part of the PGP strong set or your PGP key is on bitcoin-otc you now have a timestamp. Take your PGP fingerprint and convert that into a Bitcoin address and you'll find a 1 satoshi payment to it" | [16:41] |
punkman | https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=189792.msg1968200#msg1968200 | [16:46] |
assbot | Bitcoin Blocksize Problem Video ... ( http://bit.ly/1NHco1l ) | [16:46] |
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asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: and now we know why he made no attempt to parallelize, also. | [16:59] |
BingoBoingo | ;;later tell fluffypony You know of any working OpenBSD monero builds? | [17:01] |
gribble | The operation succeeded. | [17:01] |
fluffypony | BingoBoingo: binaries or building from source? | [17:02] |
BingoBoingo | fluffypony: Building from source | [17:02] |
fluffypony | head should build if you "make release-static" and have the depsa | [17:03] |
fluffypony | *deps | [17:03] |
fluffypony | but I haven't checked the last few commits on BSD, so it's entirely possible we broke something | [17:03] |
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BingoBoingo | Ah, I think I was missing rt | [17:04] |
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ben_vulpes | marvel of marvels, still leaking IP. | [17:06] |
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mircea_popescu | asciilifeform some of us :) | [17:14] |
mircea_popescu | incidentally, the hash-and-nonce approach to pow originally proposed is quite obviously hackery. | [17:16] |
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mircea_popescu | a bitcoin purified of ec bullcrap could do some pretty splendid factorisation-based pow. | [17:17] |
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asciilifeform | ^ | [17:17] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 256700 @ 0.00070277 = 180.4011 BTC [-] {5} | [17:17] |
asciilifeform | ;;isup nosuchlabs.com | [17:19] |
gribble | nosuchlabs.com is up | [17:19] |
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punkman | mircea_popescu: how's the hash pow related to ec? | [17:20] |
mircea_popescu | in being stupid. | [17:26] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28502 @ 0.00070347 = 20.0503 BTC [+] | [17:28] |
mircea_popescu | if you think about it, unless you have a nvidia farm you're trying to find a use for, your pow has no business being a recursive hash and shouldreally be a lot more like what phuctor's doing | [17:29] |
mircea_popescu | that obviously reduces to a ram farm, but at least ram is a degree of magnitude more commodised than gpus. | [17:29] |
mircea_popescu | in general, as it has been correctly observed and oft repeated, the simpler the gun, the worse for the state. | [17:30] |
asciilifeform | my only misgiving about this is if you stop and think who's been baking factoratrons for the past 20 yrs. | [17:30] |
asciilifeform | to them, the spoils ? | [17:30] |
asciilifeform | they perhaps were not quite good enough for pgp, but for this - perfect | [17:31] |
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BingoBoingo | !up auxon | [17:32] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 102800 @ 0.00070164 = 72.1286 BTC [-] {5} | [17:35] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30330 @ 0.00070132 = 21.271 BTC [-] | [17:37] |
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punkman | http://dpaste.com/1WPD2NM some excerpts from jdillon leak and bonus links | [17:39] |
assbot | dpaste: 1WPD2NM ... ( http://bit.ly/1JXi5Zc ) | [17:39] |
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funkenstein_ | i'm surprise nobody has an RSA coin out yet | [17:48] |
asciilifeform | funkenstein_: possibly for the reason i mentioned | [17:49] |
funkenstein_ | factoratrons? | [17:49] |
asciilifeform | aha. | [17:50] |
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funkenstein_ | i meant address, tx signing, DSA not POW | [17:52] |
asciilifeform | 'too heavy' | [17:52] |
asciilifeform | is the usual excuse. | [17:53] |
asciilifeform | !s rsacoin | [17:53] |
assbot | 0 results for 'rsacoin' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=rsacoin | [17:53] |
asciilifeform | hm | [17:53] |
asciilifeform | quite sure that we discussed it. | [17:53] |
funkenstein_ | sounds familiar | [17:55] |
funkenstein_ | signature verification is more intensive than modinv stuff with ecdsa? | [17:55] |
funkenstein_ | it seems thats the bottleneck | [17:56] |
asciilifeform | that wasn't the concern | [17:56] |
funkenstein_ | pubkeys are big i guess | [17:56] |
asciilifeform | relatively. | [17:56] |
funkenstein_ | addresses are hashes, that's not a problem | [17:57] |
mircea_popescu | !up auxon | [17:58] |
-assbot- | You voiced auxon for another 30 minutes. | [17:58] |
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mircea_popescu | asciilifeform myeah | [17:58] |
mircea_popescu | it is heavy. | [17:59] |
funkenstein_ | it's also hard to make good rsa privkeys with dice | [17:59] |
asciilifeform | funkenstein_: also hard with stone axe, mammoth teeth, bear skin. | [18:00] |
funkenstein_ | lol | [18:00] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 71803 @ 0.00070097 = 50.3317 BTC [-] {4} | [18:18] |
mircea_popescu | ;;ticker | [18:21] |
gribble | Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 224.11, Best ask: 224.39, Bid-ask spread: 0.28000, Last trade: 224.42, 24 hour volume: 75242.0072563, 24 hour low: 196.6, 24 hour high: 228.77, 24 hour vwap: None | [18:21] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 69941 @ 0.00069936 = 48.9139 BTC [-] {6} | [18:22] |
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punkman | http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/25/world/europe/migrants-push-toward-hungary-as-a-border-fence-rises.html?_r=0 | [18:28] |
assbot | Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLcwrt ) | [18:28] |
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punkman | from Syria, to Kos and Lesvos, to the promised land of Germany and Sweden | [18:30] |
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asciilifeform | n0rd1c syst3m!! | [18:31] |
punkman | http://money.cnn.com/2015/07/15/investing/bank-of-america-branches-layoffs/ | [18:32] |
assbot | Hundreds of Bank of America branches are disappearing - Jul. 15, 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLcZty ) | [18:32] |
punkman | http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/24/investing/stocks-markets-selloff-circuit-breakers-1200-times/index.html | [18:32] |
assbot | Trading was halted 1,200 times Monday - Aug. 24, 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLd6Fv ) | [18:32] |
asciilifeform | punkman: see also, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=08-07-2015#1193376 | [18:33] |
assbot | Logged on 08-07-2015 17:08:58; mircea_popescu: mod6 "our free market is this thing you can only buy!!1" | [18:33] |
asciilifeform | http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/21/technology/ashley-madison-users-extorted/index.html?iid=ob_article_footer&iid=obnetwork << l0l, from same fishwrap | [18:34] |
assbot | Ashley Madison users now facing extortion - Aug. 21, 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLdjII ) | [18:34] |
asciilifeform | http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/19/news/niagara-painting-sale-blocked-uk/index.html?iid=ob_article_footer&iid=obnetwork << and re: the art thing | [18:35] |
assbot | Buyer pays over $200,000 for painting, but can't take it home - Aug. 19, 2015 ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLdnID ) | [18:35] |
* | trinque cranks the R.E.M., kicks back | [18:35] |
asciilifeform | 'The government hopes that by blocking the painting from export there will be time for a new, serious buyer to come forward.' | [18:35] |
asciilifeform | soviet win. | [18:35] |
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mod6 | asciilifeform: I see you attached the sigs for the vpatch files, and included the tarballs in your orchestra+breath-of-life (UPDATED) email. I think it'd like to attach the raw .vpatch files as well as the .sigs for completeness. Anything against this other than it's a bit redundant since you already posted the tarballs of the .vpatches? | [18:36] |
mod6 | s/it'd/i'd/ | [18:36] |
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asciilifeform | mod6: redundant, imho | [18:36] |
asciilifeform | mod6: once 'v' is live, it can be retrofitted to the turdatron directly | [18:36] |
mod6 | alright, i'll leave them off, and maybe just leave a linkback in the body to your message. | [18:36] |
mod6 | that way a person can find the tarballs, etc. | [18:37] |
mircea_popescu | punkman fascinatingly, it's china's fault! | [18:41] |
mircea_popescu | lol @the uk. | [18:42] |
mircea_popescu | maybe the guy should rape some teenagers ? apparently it's how you get shit done in the queen's realms. | [18:42] |
asciilifeform | neh that's reserved for authorized race-replacerz | [18:43] |
mircea_popescu | honestly if it was mine i'd burn it. | [18:43] |
mircea_popescu | send the "minister of culture" the ash. | [18:43] |
asciilifeform | for bonus points, buy that little stove in ro they used earlier | [18:43] |
asciilifeform | to burn it in | [18:44] |
mircea_popescu | yeah srsly. | [18:44] |
mircea_popescu | tho ro govt would perhaps forbid its export :D | [18:44] |
asciilifeform | l0l!! | [18:44] |
asciilifeform | wonder what the ashes are worth | [18:44] |
asciilifeform | betcha they're at least mildly authenticable. | [18:44] |
mircea_popescu | same as the painting, really. | [18:44] |
mircea_popescu | "helps you better understand the role of mp in shaping the 21st century" | [18:45] |
asciilifeform | !b 4 | [18:45] |
assbot | Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/17D9G5M.txt ) | [18:45] |
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mod6 | oh i just realized something. | [18:46] |
mod6 | these sigs that you posted won't verify out-of-the box, not that i've tried. but the detached sig must match the file name with the exception of the trailing .sig on the end. | [18:47] |
asciilifeform | mod6: nope. | [18:47] |
asciilifeform | mod6: give gpg both args | [18:47] |
mod6 | so if we do
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asciilifeform | mod6: first payload, then sig | [18:47] |
mod6 | oh aight, lemme see here... | [18:47] |
asciilifeform | (this is also done from inside 'v'. but, importantly, it also works - must work - manually.) | [18:48] |
mod6 | ok, yah, works. just needed to do `gpg --verify |
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asciilifeform | aha i got it backwards | [18:50] |
asciilifeform | but yes, works | [18:50] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 77050 @ 0.00069836 = 53.8086 BTC [-] | [18:51] |
mod6 | I'm about to try to fry up some of these cheese & potato pierogies .. any tips ? just fry 'em until golden brown ? | [18:53] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.00069805 = 25.1298 BTC [-] | [18:55] |
mod6 | alright, i'll just wing-it | [18:55] |
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assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29773 @ 0.00069804 = 20.7827 BTC [-] {2} | [19:05] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3627 @ 0.00069781 = 2.531 BTC [-] | [19:06] |
phf | mod6: you want to cook them in water for a bit first, and then fry them once they are cooked | [19:10] |
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mats | wat | [19:11] |
mats | is it common to do that? | [19:12] |
phf | i thought that's a standard way of cooking pierogies on account of thicker dough, you want to stuff inside to get fully cooked | [19:14] |
phf | as opposed to say, dumplings | [19:14] |
thestringpuller | https://twitter.com/bitfinex/status/636258874606133248 >> We are experiencing data corruption issues and will be offline until corrected. Sorry for the inconvenience. | [19:17] |
mats | ive tried that before and it ruined them | [19:17] |
asciilifeform | lol shitfinex | [19:17] |
phf | mats: you probably overcooked them so they started falling apart | [19:17] |
mircea_popescu | mats you need one of those wire whisks. get the water to boiling, lower them into the water, give them ~90 seconds. take out, let them drip fully, then deepfry. | [19:19] |
mircea_popescu | in hot oil. | [19:19] |
mircea_popescu | (dry-deepfry is so fucking retarded i have nfi why anyone even does it tbh) | [19:19] |
mats | hm, ok | [19:20] |
mircea_popescu | asciilifeform gotta say something to salvage the pretense. | [19:20] |
mircea_popescu | broomstick fires first, speaks after, it's a land of magical puffery over there. | [19:20] |
mircea_popescu | and i guarantee you they'll continue to have all the "market share" they had before : 0 actual users, a few confused people with their quarter btc and otherwise, the whole might and noise of the usg. | [19:21] |
phf | or mp way, which is a lot more deliberate then mine, because i only ever fry leftover dumplings that were previously cooked. in any case you want the insides to get cooked too, so if you're deep frying them straight you want to cook insides first, then wrap in own dough, then fry the result | [19:23] |
mircea_popescu | now i want blinyi | [19:28] |
Adlai | http://dpaste.com/0AKD3VC | [19:30] |
assbot | dpaste: 0AKD3VC ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLkh0D ) | [19:30] |
Adlai | deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/0AKD3VC.txt | [19:30] |
deedbot- | accepted: 1 | [19:30] |
assbot | ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLkjph ) | [19:30] |
* | Adlai assures the concerned members of the audience that this is not from shitfinex... anybody who's written exchange APIs will probably recognize this | [19:31] |
punkman | Adlai: what's that | [19:33] |
Adlai | if you had to ask, someday you'll know | [19:35] |
mircea_popescu | how to bother people, entry #985468546 : pronounce adult as "a dolt". insist. | [19:36] |
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mod6 | i got these ones from a lady from .ua at the farmers makert. instructions on the top said "don't cook in water", don't cook if frozen. so I let 'em thaw overnight. then just put 'em in a pan with a bit of cooking oil. simmered 'em until golden. tasted great to me! | [19:36] |
mod6 | but maybe im pierogie heathen | [19:37] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23600 @ 0.00070235 = 16.5755 BTC [+] | [19:38] |
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punkman | I wonder, do they sell bottles of "cooking oil" in US supermarkets? (where you have to read the fine print to figure out what it's made of) | [19:41] |
mod6 | i can go look. this is 'vegetable oil' | [19:45] |
mod6 | Ingrediant: SOYBEAN OIL | [19:46] |
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mircea_popescu | iirc it was mostly rapeseed | [19:54] |
mircea_popescu | (yes it's an actual plant) | [19:54] |
Adlai | entry #985468547 : abbreviate 'grownups' as 'groans' | [19:56] |
mod6 | heh 'rapeseed' | [19:57] |
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mod6 | ahh yah, canola, saw fields upon fields of this driving through manatoba | [19:58] |
shinohai | rapeseed is used as a filler in cheap peanut butter in us groceries | [19:59] |
mod6 | "food" | [20:01] |
punkman | protip: if your peanut butter doesn't develop a layer of oil at the top, it probably has hydrogenated vegetable oil in it | [20:01] |
punkman | same with tahini | [20:02] |
shinohai | smuckers makes yummy natural pb | [20:02] |
mod6 | but it also makes this abortion: http://www.smuckers.com/products/peanut-butter/goober-pb-j/goober-grape-38 | [20:03] |
assbot | Goober Grape PB & J - Peanut Butter - Smucker's ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLpDsw ) | [20:03] |
punkman | not that hard to make at home | [20:04] |
mod6 | everytime i see that stuff on the shelf, i think, "this shit is a metephor for the whole goddamn thing." | [20:04] |
shinohai | girls go fer goober grape | [20:08] |
mod6 | heheh | [20:12] |
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mod6 | http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000158.html | [20:23] |
assbot | [BTC-dev] orchestra+breath-of-life (UPDATED) ... ( http://bit.ly/1KLszWf ) | [20:23] |
assbot | [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5500 @ 0.00069781 = 3.838 BTC [-] {2} | [20:27] |
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